Manipulation and Viewer Mistrust / Flipping Out / Dance Moms / Housewife News

Manipulation and Viewer Mistrust by NoMoreDrama

I suspect it is hard to be unbiased when you’re shooting a TV Reality show.  You’re spending time with the people and sometimes you’ll connect – and others times you won’t.  There is a certain amount of bias that will be inherent in any reality TV show.  Someone will be cast as a villlain -someone else in more favorable light.  Editors / producers are after creating a good story line to capture viewers.  They may need to shift around timelines, edit in words out of context, or set up situations to increase the chances of drama.  We all know it’s true and accept it.

We watched Jill Zarin call Alex McCord a f**ing bi&&h at a wedding.  Jill complained that she made that statement off-camera to a producer and it was dubbed in to make it look like she said it at the table.  Not a big deal.  She did say it.  Camille Grammer’s dinner party was edited to make her look awful.  Later – in an extended version of the scene – we saw what led up to Camille’s reaction – and were more sympathetic to her.

What’s going on in New Jersey seems different.

Yesterday – Will Love sent this tweet to a few bloggers and other folks.  It appeared in the blogs in the morning.

“@AutumnLeaves61 Andy Cohen does play a role in the editing process. He has said so directly in interviews. With that said, overall @yourfriendkitty and @carolineself have the most editing power. They are the executive producers of Season 3 and Season 4 of #RHONJ. They work on location and off location. They send the editors what footage to use as well as tell them what to keep in and what to cut out. @carolineself is tight with the Manzos while @yourfriendkitty is tight with the Gorgas and Wakiles. Cat edited @PDKhair as well as multiple ex-coworkers of Melissa’s, who were present at the salon and fashion show, completely out of the two-part finale. Their interactions made the Angelo incident look g-rated. Obviously that move was deliberate. Furthermore, Cat held Penny back from defending Kim when Joe Gorga called Kim a drug addict, a c**t and went to punch her. Even worse, as you will see in the finale, Cat completely butchered the conversation Angelo had with a friend at the bar to make it appear as though Teresa masterminded everything. The unprofessionalism of Cat Rodriguez and Caroline Self is disgusting. In this economy, why are these the type of people who have employment? Only a network like @BravoTV would believe that their viewers are so incompetent that they wouldn’t see past the blatant bias. Take note @stoopidhsewives. Take note @WetpaintTV. Take note @allabouttrh. This is the real reality.” http://tmi.me/x2SW7

Basically – this Will Love says that a producer – Cat Rodriguez who goes by the twitter handle @yourfriendkitty – edited a scene to make it look like Teresa is responsible for the setup of Melissa.  We will see this scene next week.

I checked on @yourfriendkitty’s twitter account and it’s locked down, but it does say that she’s an executive producer of reality TV.  And she clearly is a friend of Melissa’s.

None of this is new.  Bloggers have reported the close relationship between producers and cast for the last year.  Setting up drama for the Porsche fashion show is business as usual for this show.  Bringing in someone to expose Melissa’s past – dramatic but not too big a stretch.  Blaming it on Teresa?  That’s  a new one – but not inconceivable.  Only no one seems to be playing along this time.  New Jersey just doesn’t know how to keep a secret.

Have they gone too far this time?

For Bravo, it doesn’t really matter what happened that night; it only matters how viewers react, or if their cast has had enough and pulls out.

New Jersey is a ratings block buster for Bravo – yet ratings for Sunday’s episode were down 7 percent.  Still far and above NY – but season finales usually bring in big numbers.  Could viewers be smelling too much of a scripted setup?  Has too much been leaked about this episode for viewers to care?

For the cast – we’ll see.  Jacqueline Laurita was ready to walk away a year ago but seems to have had a change of heart.   I’m pretty sure they need the money.  I doubt Teresa Giudice is worried about her relationship with her brother any more; they haven’t talked for a year.  She definitely needs the money and exposure to sell her stuff.   Dina Manzo and Danielle Staub seem to be lobbying to get back on the show.  Caroline has a book coming out.  She’s probably not leaving unless they push her out.

In a few weeks the dust will settle, Bravo will crunch the numbers, and know if this paid off or not.  My guess is it will have.  There’s just something about those Jersey girls.  But maybe not.  All of the housewives shows have declining numbers.  Perhaps this is the beginning of the end.

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Flipping Out “Drawing the Line” by BB

At West Knoll, Jeff, Vanina and Andrew are describing cabinet pulls using terms like thickness, length and tips, and they decide they prefer the black ones, because Andrew says if you go black, you don’t go back.  Gage points out to them that the office atmosphere is totally unprofessional.  I agree, but the way the office is set up is not conducive to professionalism.  It’s in the home Jeff shares with his partner Gage and his housekeeper Zoila.  Jeff, Jenni, Vanina and Andrew are crammed into a room together (Gage has a separate office, but can hear what’s going on) when they’re not out and about at the various homes Jeff is currently renovating.

Jeff and Jenni meet with Lisa who has just bought a new home in Calabasas.  Lisa wants to go over the budget with Jeff.  At first, Lisa only wanted to redo the hardwood floors and replace the cabinets in the kitchen.  Of course Jeff has managed to turn it into more of a major rehab.  Lisa and Jeff go back and forth about the budget.  Jenni calls it a spectator sport.  Jeff wants the house to be amazing and he knows Lisa has the money so he doesn’t understand what the problem is.

Lisa and Jeff

At Spring Oak, Jeff is getting things ready for a final inspection.  Jeff’s plan is for Spring Oak to be an interim house until Gramercy is done.  Andrew seems to know what he’s doing.  Jeff doesn’t have to micro-manage him.  While Andrew and Frank the contractor are measuring something, Andrew asks Frank to hold his stick.  Jeff hears this and is worried he’s going to get sued for sexual harassment. He calls Andrew aside and warns him about saying inappropriate things to clients and coworkers.  Jenni has just been appointed Human Resources for the business and she and Jeff discuss the fact that Andrew may not know when it’s appropriate to joke and when it’s not.

Jeff asks everyone what time it is back at the office and it’s margarita time.  How many people have margarita time at their work place?  No wonder they have problems.  Jenni has a discussion with Andrew about saying things that are inappropriate in the office.  Jenni tells him he can still have fun, but to watch what he says.  Jenni also realizes Jeff has to lead by example if he wants the dynamic in the office to change.

Jeff and Jenni go to Lisa’s office.  Lisa is a big executive for the show Extra.  They discuss the budget again and Lisa is adamant about not going over the $250,000 she has approved. Jeff doesn’t want to make Lisa too angry because she wields a lot of power and she could ruin his reputation, but he still wants to convince her that she needs to make sure the house is done right.

Andrew has a trust fund, so he doesn’t have to worry about money.  The only proviso of the trust fund is that he has to hold a full time job until he’s 40.  He has worked many different jobs but hasn’t carved out a career for himself.  Gage doesn’t see Andrew as a long term employee in Jeff’s business.

In front of everyone in the office, Jeff tells Vanina that she’s leaving residual urine on the toilet seat and he’s tired of wiping it off.  This is a total Bravo setup.  Vanina makes a complaint about Jeff to Jenni, who has to write Jeff up.  Jenni tells Jeff he should not say things like that in front of people.  Jeff comes out and tells Vanina thanks a lot for getting him written up.  Jeff now has a file started on him.

Jeff is with Lisa in her office trying to come to terms with the budget issue.  Lisa is set on her $250,000 budget.  Jeff needs for Gil, the contractor to come down on his estimates and enlists Jenni to talk to him about it.  Jenni discusses the budget problem with Gill and he agrees he will look at things, but he’s already done some work he hasn’t even charged them for.  Jenni promises that if Gil comes down in prices, she will rap at one of his kid’s birthday parties as the lizard or the animal of his choice.  Gil agrees.  Lisa thinks Jenni should have Jeff’s job.

Back at the office, Jeff asks about the Gramercy list and tells Jenni to go talk to Gage about it.  Jeff asks Andrew if he likes his job.  Andrew tells him sometimes it’s OK, but sometimes it’s like slurping rancid tuna salad out of Nancy’s ass.  Everybody’s mouths fall open.  Gage asks Andrew what he said and he repeats it.  Gage calls him out for his unprofessionalism again. Gage asks Andrew to bring his file in tells Andrew how inappropriate he is.  He now knows why Andrew might not have lasted very long in previous jobs.  Later Jeff and Jenni tell Lisa what Andrew has been doing.  Lisa brings Marcy her lawyer in.  Jeff explains what Andrew has said to a contractor and Nancy.  Marcy says she’s not sure if the contractor could sue Jeff, but if Andrew were their employee, he would be gone. (I’m not an attorney, but I have processed sexual harassment cases in the past and it’s a very complicated legal procedure.)  Lisa asks Jeff if he’s going to fire Andrew, even though Jeff says Andrew is doing a good job.

Andrew and the Dog

During a staff meeting, Jeff talks to Andrew about leaving the office early to dog-sit for a friend.  They go over the various projects that are ongoing.  Jeff tells Andrew he made a mistake on one of the project to-do lists.  Andrew tries to blame it on Jenni, but Jeff lets Andrew have it because he won’t take responsibility for the mistake.  Andrew finally admits it’s his fault.  Jeff dismisses Andrew to go to a job site.  Andrew has the dog he’s sitting in the car with him when he leaves.  Jeff tells Jenni Andrew has a great opportunity for someone who’s 37 years old and doesn’t have a career.  Jenni tells Jeff it doesn’t matter if Andrew doesn’t care.

Jeff, Jenni and Andrew

At Spring Oak, Jeff and Jenni are getting ready for the final inspection.  Jenni asks Moses if Andrew told him to pick up the five bags of rocks.  He says no.  Jeff tells Jenni to call Andrew and tell him to bring the five bags of rocks immediately.  Andrew still has the little dog he’s sitting with him when he goes to buy the rocks.  Andrew is pretty much freaking out about having the dog with him when he takes the rocks to Spring Oak.  The dog is crying loudly as Andrew drives up and Andrew is shushing her.  Moses comes and helps Andrew unload the rocks.  Gage comes outside and hears the dog squealing and finds out it’s Lacy the dog.  Gage tells Andrew he can’t bring the dog into the house.  Andrew yells to Jeff and asks him if he can leave.  Jeff says no and finally hears the dog squealing in the car.  Jeff is furious but is holding back because the inspector is there.

Jeff yelling at Andrew

Later at West Knoll, Jeff tells Andrew how unprofessional it was for him to bring a dog to the job site.  Andrew is in tears and Gage is not buying it.  Andrew apologizes and Jeff tells him he’s not going to fire him.  He tells Andrew to stop the constant sexual jokes.  Gage thinks Jeff made a mistake by giving Andrew a second chance.  Andrew is relieved but feels guilty because he hasn’t always been totally honest with Jeff.  Next week we see just how dishonest Andrew has been.

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Dance Moms Reunion Part 1 Recap 9/18  by Michigan Susan

The Reunion was moderated by Jeff Collins, Executive Producer. He started the show by showing a video montage of Abby Lee’s famous quote, “Everyone’s Replaceable!” He asked the Moms if Abby’s way of taking to the kids is too harsh. Holly responded that Abby is direct and that her message is on target but her delivery is off base.

Jeff asks the Moms if they have changed since becoming a Dance Mom. Melissa said she has always been an involved mom. Christi said that they are all involved because the kids are in school all day and the only time they get to see their kids is at Dance.

Who is the most outrageous Dance Mom? Holly says it’s Kelly because she speaks her mind. Kelly says it’s Christi because Christi pushes Chloe more.

Jeff comments that everyone can tell that Christi and Kelly are “besties”. Kelly and Christi agree because they always tell each other the truth. Holly says the whole group acts like a dysfunctional family but that they truly are family and friends.

Jeff asks about the PYRAMID! Abby says that all teachers do some sort of pyramid in their heads and that it’s equivalent to a cattle call or chorus line. She says the kids are okay with it because she explains why they are where they are in the pyramid. Christi says she thinks its hurtful. Abby responds that the kids are smarter than Christi gives them credit for. Holly says she thinks it’s okay because it holds Abby accountable.

Does Abby show favoritism towards Maddie? Jeff asks Melissa if she is concerned about that. Kelly points out that Maddie loses her cool when she doesn’t win something, even a minor fun competition. Melissa disagrees. Jeff points out that Maddie appears to be unstoppable and that no one can take their eyes off Maddie, especially Abby. They show a montage of Maddie and the part where Maddie forgets her solo, runs off the stage and Abby is crying. Holly asks Abby why she doesn’t cry over other students. Christi says all the girls want Abby to talk to them the way she talks to Maddie. Abby responds that Maddie is great, blah, blah. (I nodded off a bit here.)

Jeff asks why Melissa brought in all of Maddie’s crowns. Christi complained that Maddie always gets the best choreography, Abby says she’s trying to teach the other girls that it’s the work that makes the difference. Kelly says that she thought Maddie didn’t want to show off her crowns to the other girls.

Abby vs. Kelly. A video montage of Abby complaining about Kelly’s parenting, drinking, saying Kelly’s kids are crazy, that Kelly didn’t fix the chair, etc. Kelly yelling about costumes and props. Jeff asks Kelly if she’s in or out for next season. Kelly says it’s up for debate, that the kids want to be back but Kelly doesn’t know if it’s worth it. A question from a fan asks why Kelly hit below the belt by calling Abby a whore and saying mean things about Abby’s weight. Kelly said we didn’t see the part where Abby insulted her family.

Jeff asks Abby to describe Kelly as a kid:  beautiful, dingy, great potential

Jeff asks Kelly to describe Abby:  bossy, mean, but taught her a lot

The skip heard around the world:  Maddie’s music skipped during a performance. Kelly thinks it was intentional because Maddie never missed a beat (as if she had practiced with the music that skipped). Kelly also says it’s known that if your music skips, you win. Melissa said everyone is instructed to keep dancing if something happens to the music and Maddie did it because she’s a professional! Abby goes ballistic because she thinks Kelly is making an insulting comment about her professionalism that could ruin her reputation. Christi says that Kelly has never lied to her but she can’t say the same about Melissa.

Jeff asks about the fun experiences the Dance Moms have had together. Christi says she shared her pregnancy with the ladies and that they were all helping her through it. Kelly says the kids hang out together even when they aren’t practicing or performing.

There is a video showing Christi as she talks about growing up with her grandparents and not being able to dance. She will make sure that Chloe has every advantage and can chase her own dreams. Abby says that Christi will go to the ends of the earth to help Chloe but that Chloe is Christi’s ticket “out”. Christi says that’s not true.

LaQuifa!  A discussion ensues about ethnicity vs. stereotypical negative costumes. Holly hated the afro and says that afro doesn’t make someone “black”. She thinks Nia is unique enough without having to portray the stereotype. Abby thinks that she’ll put people in the parts she thinks they’ll get as future professional dancers.

Working Mom- Dance Moms vs. Stay at home Dance Moms. Holly got her doctorate during the show, worked full time as a Principal of a school, maintaining her household, mom of a competitive dancer, etc. She says it was a tough struggle to work it all out. (She has taken a sabbatical from work).

Jill returns! Jeff describes her as having a 1-900 voice and a studio hopper. They show video of Jill being obnoxious and having a few fits then moving over to Candy Apple Cathy’s dance studio. Abby describes it as the ultimate betrayal. Abby says she took them back because of Kendall..that Kendall is beautiful, smart and picks up dance quickly. Kelly and Christi talk about going out with Jill who takes money out of a young dancer man’s waistband, with her teeth! They talk about when Jill tried to use an old costume when Abby gave them instructions to not re-use an old costume.

Melissa’s personal life…Melissa will tell them about bodily things but wants to keep her personal life private. Last year Melissa sent the Dance Moms a letter from an attorney saying they will be sued if they talk about Melissa’s personal life. Melissa tries to brush it off saying it was from her fiance’s attorney. Jill asks why Melissa got engaged when the guy is still married. Melissa said she wanted it, the kids wanted it. Supposedly, the guy will be divorced in 7, 10 or 15 days (Melissa wasn’t sure) and they will get married immediately after.

Cathy of Candy Apple’s:  Jeff asks them to describe Cathy.  Abby says witch. Holly says silly. Melissa says little shoes pattering about. Christi says jerky. Kelly says stalker. Jill says annoying. Jeff brings Cathy out and they show never before seen footage of what happened AFTER nationals. Cathy threw water on Christi. The Abby Lee dancers were chanting. Abby called Cathy  names. It was very disappointing. The Abby Lee Dance Company won everything so they should have left the competition with some class and dignity and not stooping to Cathy’s level.  Christi says it was due to emotions running high after the competition.  Things escalated out of control.

Cathy says it’s all healthy competition but the ALDC can be vindictive and vicious. Jeff refers to the Cathy vs. Christi banter as oil vs. water. Christi says she appreciates Cathy’s quick wit. Jeff wants to know what Cathy learned while she was at ALDC. Cathy said she thinks Abby is not nice to her customers and that the Moms deserve more respect. The Moms shouldn’t be responsible for putting rhinestones on costumes, etc.  She also admits that Abby does produce talent and creates good competition. Cathy says there’s more to life than winning. And she thinks she has more class than Abby.

Heaven help me there’s going to be a part 2 next week and the dreaded Kaya returns. Not much was learned during part 1 so I’m not sure much will be revealed next week. The ladies looked nice, though. There was even a satin dress and a one shouldered number..just like the Real Housewives :)

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Housewife News by NoMoreDrama

Alexis Bellino is quitting the Real Housewives of Orange County after a season where she lost support of her best friend Gretchen Rossi.  It’s almost impossible to film unless you have at least one friend to stick up for you.  Alexis is telling the press that she is “done dealing with bullies.”  Now this news is from a unnamed source – so it’s hard to say if it was Alexis just venting or if it is true.  Ironically, Tamra Barney made the news saying that the Alexis is lying.  Always one to kick someone when they are down – Tamra is probably implying that Alexis was fired.  Eddie Judge must be so happy he’s contractually obligated to marry her next season so that there will be some sort of story line for the show.

Over in Atlanta, NeNe Leakes is also saying that she would like to leave her show (well according to PerezHilton.  Atlanta just wrapped up filming its season, and NeNe’s new show “The New Normal” has started to air.  She probably is ready to move on, but that rumored one million dollar paycheck will be hard to give up.

Speaking of needing a friend to film with – Wetpaint is reporting that Vicki Gunvalson’s daughter Briana wants her to quit the show.  It might be time for Vicki to do just that now that Alexis is out.

Aviva Drescher is feeling the fallout from the fallout from the last three episodes of RHONY.  She’s in spin control, giving interviews and trying to explain her position (no approval yet for TEB’s interview in case you were wondering).  Here’s her thoughts on the upcoming reunion – set to film on Thursday.

Examiner (Anthony Bowles): I know that you’re filming the reunion this Thursday, so what’s your feelings going into it?

Aviva Drescher: “I’m sure there is going to be a lot of drama! I feel like it is a great opportunity for us to explain our feelings and point of views. I like to own up to my mistakes and behavior and I don’t know if they will do the same. At the reunion I think that it will be a great experience and hopefully it’ll be a civilized discussion. I’ve watched other reunions and I never saw a civilized one, so it may be a bloodbath.”

It sounds to me like she’s looking for an apology from Ramonja and is going in expecting the  worst.  Read More Here

According to a report by Gather, Ramona Singer has accused Carole Radziwill of being stoned through much of the filming in St. Barths.  Heh.  That might explain why she didn’t react to much.  What was in those pink cigarettes?  On another note – news that Carole used to date George Clooney has apparently caused a bit of a rift in Clooney’s current relationship with Stacy Keibler.  Rumor has it that they are on the verge of a split.  I’m really not sure if I believe that news that George Clooney had an ex-girlfriend would be a surprise to his current girlfriend.  Something doesn’t seem quite right with that story reported by The Stir.

WWHL last night was evacuated due to threat of a fire with Jeff Lewis and Cloris Leachman as guests.  But no worries.  Andy tweeted this:

We are all alive. The clubhouse is intact. Jeff, Cloris & I are going to get a room. #BestNightEver

Exclusive photo of Caroline Manzo’s reunion outfit:

Unfortunately, advance sales of her first book aren’t going well.

And Jacqueline Laurita has finally figured out what to do with herself now that she isn’t best friends with Teresa.

(Thank you Boston for the photos)

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Mardrag has a Message for ADiva

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Happy Birthday Amber…RealWife

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483 Responses to Manipulation and Viewer Mistrust / Flipping Out / Dance Moms / Housewife News

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning.

    Detox I’m happy to hear that your mom is doing well in her recovery and also that you went to the ER. PLEASE do what you are told yound lady. You can’t help your mom if you’re ill. Also don’t worry about getting us the blog. You need REST.

  2. BB says:

    Happy Birthday, Amber…Real Wife. Hope you have a fun filled day!

  3. Powell says:

    Oh NMD you’re 1 away from 140 followers. Congrats!

  4. Sus says:

    Here’s my question… Was Melissa a stripper or bartender? I think Theresa is getting the shaft from Bravo on this one.

    • Well she took that shaft and turned it into a hair care line, fabellini line, and who knows what else is next – so I say good for her. She knows how to turn lemonade into lemons (a Kellism from Scary Island).

    • LA_Debra says:

      I still can’t figure out why it matters. Really? Who cares what Melissa was ages ago? And what’s wrong with being a stripper?

      • cusi77 says:

        I agree with you LA_Debra! Who cares? First of all it’s not illegal and second she has a new good life now, where she is a good wife and a mother… leave the past in the past. We are all new with every breath we take…

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Maybe you should be asking her (Melissa), since she’s the one who is so upset about it.

        • MamaZ says:

          I don’t think she Melissa was a stripper. I agree with T Rex that if she had been lots of people would be coming forward with info and possibly pics.
          I also don’t think Melissa is the least bit upset about the allegations. She sees this all as part of her “Behind the Music” story and a great way to stick it to Teresa.

        • PJ says:

          I think she is pretending to be upset about it because it puts her in the spotlight. Didn’t Snake and JoGo supposedly come on this show specifically with the promise of bringing Teresa down, what kind of people do that (if it’s true)? If that is true it means everything about Snake and JoGo on this show must be fake…..all of it. Bravo isn’t alone in playing/manipulating the viewers.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I don’t know if she started out pretending to be upset. She looked kinda wounded the minute she walked into the posche event (imo). I think both Tre and Mel were set up. I think the fallout could possibly benefit Mel, but she would probably also like to protect her image and reputation. Even though many of us, me included, don’t think it’s any big deal that she danced. She has been throwing stones about Tre’s character and that is the only reason that would be a comeuppance of sorts. If it’s true. Again, my opinion. If it’s not true, she is a family woman, devoted to her husband who praises and thanks Jesus in a very public way and perhaps feels that the dance past doesn’t jive with the image she was worked hard for as well as feeling betrayed by her family; which if you’ve ever felt betrayed is one of the worst feelings ever. Which is why so many people who never liked Tre, have compassion for her now because of the way she has been bullied and yes, betrayed in thought, word and deed by her familymembers. Yes, she’s annoying,… but no one deserves that.

            • PJ says:

              But think about this if these women manage to actually get Teresa fired by creating a situation where no one will film with her, just like they already did to Danielle, who benefits then? I think Melissa thinks she can turn this into the Melissa show. I strongly feel that this is their objective. But my guess is that if they do get rid of Teresa the rest of them will be at each other’s throats before the end of next season. These women only play one game.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                I think that we have to remember that image making is not reality but a full time profession best handled by a professional. The faith trip and close family story are nice but seem to not be true. Melissa’s liability is not Teresa, but her cave man pervert of a husband fame whore confidant angel sent up from hell. What real man threatens to hit a women on national TV. Maybe one that thinks his side, has control of the final edit? In a nut shell, I find the Gorga group to be very desperate for fame and attention, based on jealousy, greed and the baby birth order in both their family trees. I still think that Joey is lost when Melissa is not feeding him lines, like a trainer, feeds a seal, fish. As for reputation, I think that Melissa and her sisters have made war with a lot of people, close to home. If they are worried about the rest of the world, I think that rat is out of the bag, and has been for a very long time. Funny how delusional thinking works! Kind of like being on a treadmill going nowhere fast. JMHO.

                • PJ says:

                  I used to run my dog on a treadmill so he could get his exercise in bad weather. He hated it because he liked to actually go somewhere while doing his run. Once he even pooped while he was running, I don’t know how he managed that, he was making a statement I guess. The poop rolled off the treadmill and onto the carpet. He was a cute, funny little thing.

                  The only cute, fun people on this show are Teresa’s kids they should get a show.

                • Irish DI says:

                  Amen CAP. Mel makes the sign of the cross backwards. I do not believe a single word that comes our of her mouth,or Joe’s, Kathy’s or Jeff Goldblum’s. And that is just one minor example.

            • Powell says:

              Lainey if they were both setup I wonder why they hadn’t said so at the reunion?

      • Powell says:

        LA_Debra i’ve heard they make a lot of money. :-)

    • T-Rex says:

      Melissa was NOT a stripper, and yes Bravo is going to out of their way to blame Teresa for the rumor, although it’s Teresa’s fault in a way because she took the bait that Bravo threw at her and ran with it, bad move and gives Bravo the ammo to use against her.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        “although it’s Teresa’s fault “…^^^^… that sounds familiar, T-Rex. That fits in nicely with Bravo’s blatant set-up and attempt to destroy a family for the sake of ratings and entertainment. I’m sure they (Bravo & the Manzo’s and the Laurita’s) are hoping that’s the cry heard around the reality world/blogosphere/reunion, etc. “It’s Teresa’s fault.”

        • T-Rex says:

          Again I am not watching and will await the blog, but truthfully even though I truly DISLIKE Teresa I really wish that she hadn’t taken the bait for stripper-gate that Bravo dangled out there for her to make a mess of all this. Had she just not gotten involved at all, this whole fiasco staged by Bravo would have collapsed and been a complete dud, but nope stupid is as stupid does and she let herself be duped.

          • Powell says:

            T-Rex T has taken the bate since last season. I’m not saying what her family did was right regarding how they got on the show but if T would’ve just welcomed her family on the show w/the mindset that all of her family would “take over the show”, outshine the Manzo’s/Laurita’s the focus and fans could’ve been on them & maybe the rest would have smaller roles this season but T came out the gate swinging fighting w/her family. When “Melissa used to be a stripper” came out by Angelo/KimD/Bravo T should’ve gone to Mel/Joey to let them know this was being said. In both cases T took the hate. This all could’ve been avoided.

      • klmh says:

        Golly, I have to blame Melissa a bit, but not really, when she reacted the way she did. If she said hi to him and enjoyed the dinner and show, there would have been no problem. We know Teresa wouldn’t have said anything more about it. If Kim D. had asked her about it, which she would have done if there had been no reaction from Melissa, she could have shut that down as well. Kim D. wouldn’t have confronted Melissa, that’s for sure.
        I found it telling too, that Angelo went out of his way to say hi to Teresa at the table that evening. Went out of his way. Set up by he Angelo, Kim D., Kim G. (for telephone info to Jacq) and probably Bravo against both Melissa and Teresa, jmo.

      • PJ says:

        The point never was if Melissa was or wasn’t a stripper. The point was to get Teresa off the show and in doing so it was necessary to create a situation where no one would film with her, just like they did to Danielle. In my opinion that is what’s going on here.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          PJ, I agree with you. This group has a take no prisoner stance, that is almost comical. Never any room for compromise, in the out of tune chorus of me, me, me, me ,me. I do not see how Teresa can be blame for the Bravo fashion show edit in anyway, except that she is alive and still on the show. To me, she appears to be the densest character in reality TV, more often capable of personal blunder then calculated attack. She responds, she does not plot. That would be Melissa’s role. We as viewer have to be careful, not to let our own biases be corrupted by Bravo’s sleazy edit machine. We have to also take into account that this franchise is Andrew Cohen’s vanity project, not unlike a huge spider web. We as viewers do not want or need to get stuck in that web. It is sometimes cruel and deceitful and more and more often, less harmful and fun. JMHO.

          • PJ says:

            I’m thinking they didn’t learn anything from the ladies of NY’s Pyrrhic victor at that bloody reunion last year. C,J, M & K are going to go guns blazing against T and maybe take themselves down because viewers don’t mind drama but they don’t like gang ups and down right mean.

            • PJ says:

              victory….sorry

              • Called A Princess... says:

                We also do not like a really big edit lie. And Andy seems to profit from not being honest. I think it is funny that he has a news background. People need to put 2 and 2 together about how the news in presented to us. How much we are presented junk facts as the truth and how much it controls our biases in regard to law, art, crime, world events and consumerism. JMHO.

                • PJ says:

                  Many years ago there was a news story and I happened to know the facts personally, although I was not involved in the story. Well when I read the article in a well known publication I was shocked at the bias. It was the story and it wasn’t the story, there were motivations that were completely over looked and things were reported that were not true. Now don’t get me wrong the reporter reported what he was told, but there was bias, and the reporter should have done more research to come to fair conclusions. I realized at that moment that news can be manipulated to fit the bias of the person doing the reporting or to push an agenda.

                  That’s what’s going on here facts are being manipulated and the whole truth is not being told. Everyone spins to match their agenda and they all have an agenda even the ones that cry innocent and victim and set up, perhaps the ones that cry the loudest are the most guilty.

  5. Good morning everyone. I can’t wait to read the blog.

  6. VV says:

    Happy Birthday, Amber…Real Wife!

  7. Good morning all, DD came into my room crying about:4:30am saying she had a bad dream, crawled into bed with us and was fast asleep not even 60 seconds later. But I can fall back to sleep :(

    I’ve been pondering the whole RHONJ and come to the conclusion that not only was strippergate a dud, it was also a complete farce.

    What would Teresa have to gain by revealing on the show that Melissa was a stripper?
    Nothing, because no one cares. Granted, she might have said to people she heard ‘rumors’ which might not be ‘nice’ or sisterly but it’s hardly the same thing as trying to expose her.

    As soon as the revelation came out about it, the defense was already prepared. Joey was just next door to come blazing in like the guns of Navarone. Kim G, who happens to be Kim D’s sister also was treated to a birds eye view from her luxury condo, that just ‘happened’ to be next door. Affidavits from the owners of the ‘gentleman club’ saying how Melissa was just a bartender were hot off the press.

    Looking back at the kick off of the season and the first fight, what happened. Joey and Melissa took something that was mentioned to Joey MONTHS before off camera and brought it to the surface, as if it was something fresh that happened. Remember that very contrived scene in the closet? How calculated Melissa’s speech pattern was? Sounds very similar to how she sounded in the bathroom with Teresa.

    If anyone has a penchant for bringing stuff to the surface, to try and make Teresa look like she is nasty, it’s Malicious Mel and evil side kick. Teresa probably did vent and complain to others about her brother and SIL, they surely did the same to her but who is it who secured a spot on this show by positioning themselves as the one’s who were going to “take Teresa down”? Especially because that is what so many of us were begging for after season 2.

    So here Teresa is at the fashion show, sitting the furthest away from Jac…who is busy texting with Kim G and other ‘unnamed sources’.

    Teresa gets accused of being behind all of this, so the cast can use this as the reason to hate her..because the ‘read between the lines’ mantra really doesn’t have much clout. They are never going to admit that they are angry about Punta Cana but more so that Teresa is the break out star.

    Just look at every major feud within the franchises, Jill vs Bethenny…things were happening for B and Jill was mad she wasn’t also being taken along for the ride. NeNe vs Kim, NeNe comes up with the idea to use Tardy for the Party and make it a duet but instead Kim makes it a ‘hit’ solo. By product of that, Kim also stiffs Kandi for her share of the money. Adrienne and Lisa, big houses side by side and competing shoe lines.

    So here, we have Teresa on the defensive about some BS- but what is really happening?
    Her husband is being tailed…..by a spy and they photograph him with another woman.

    So here we have Teresa, going into the reunion alone…her brother turned against her while people are trying to force her to face that her husband is cheating on her. What a lonely place to be.

    Stippergate, was just a ruse…a diversion and even the photo of Juicy was just collateral damage. The real agenda was to destroy Teresa and to break her…thinking that once Teresa is shattered into a million tiny pieces, another star will be born.

    • disgrazia4 says:

      Well, a little sleep and it all fell into place. I’d like to post this at the FB Group. Well done RR. It makes sense. Although I think they were all receiving texts and, according to Will Love, those texts were coming from the infamous Bravo producer, Cat. Maybe Kim G too, for all we know. She had issues with Teresa as well. I am convinced that we are all we have to figure this out as the reunion, bound by fake timelines and storylines, will never reveal the truth.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      Their has never been an honor amongst thieves. Melissa and Kathy’s motives for even getting on the show are questionable. They will always have a side eye on them as far as I am concerned. They cannot be trusted. They betrayed family, they will betray anyone. Same goes for Caroline. Also, with Caro, she always figures out a way to make an enemy out of a friend. She definitely cant be trusted. She has no loyalties to anyone but her kids. In turn, jealousy always destroys you more than the other person.

      • From the first episode where Joey and Melissa caused a casino at their own son’s baptism because their resentment was that strong, in my mind that is something they could never recover from when it comes to my support as a viewer.

        They remind me of rats in a trap that once caught will chew their own leg off to get to the cheese.

    • Carwtheels says:

      I agree with your assessment 100%
      It is great to see your thought posted without having to wirte them :)
      Thanks for saving me the time :D

    • PJ says:

      I agree. This plot was put together by producers probably and everyone except Teresa was probably involved. Teresa wasn’t the one behind the set up she was the one who was set up. Funny that Teresa gets called so many ugly names for being smart enough to see she was being set up. People who come on a show with the promise of taking their own family member down are not nice people and none of these reconciliation attempts were for real, it’s so sad that Teresa thought they were. This was a collaborative set up and yet we have people calling Teresa scum when they know she had nothing to do with this because the people calling her scum were involved. This takes reality TV to a new low. I understand the manipulation of the time line to make for a better story; although the lies coming out of the mouths of the housewives pretending to be upset about something that didn’t really happen in the right time line is hard to take. But the deliberate tearing apart of a person and a family for a story, personal gain, fame, money and jealousy is just sick. Manipulating a conversation to make it sound like Teresa is guilty is wrong. How long before viewers say enough? I for one am sick of being lied to and manipulated.

  8. HAPPY BIRTH DAY AMBER…. Real wife…

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Thank you so much DesignDiva. Hope MrFord is well…. :) (am I right or have I made MrFord someone else’s man! LMAO Oh well you know i’m older cause I can’t get shite right! :)

      • Amber.. you are very welcome….. And YES..Mr ford resides here…. HA…
        I see you suffer from C.R.A.F.T. disease also … !!!! As most of us do from time to time…
        Mr Ford is doing well today… Has a few more days till his intensive blood tests start… then back to cardio dr on the 25th for next plan of action…. always something…..

  9. disgrazia4 says:

    Happy Birthday fellow Virgo, Amber. Hope your day brings you joy.

  10. mardrag26 says:

    Good Morning! So good to be here….have been dealing with a little bit of “life’ creeping in around my HW time! Dang! LOL!

    Detox…sending healing and warm thoughts to you an your mother. Rest and get well soon!

    Happy Birthday Amber….Hugs to everyone too.
    Thanks for a great blog today. I am getting ready to coffee up and read everything.
    FYI to those who have asked…a new Inspiration Page post will be up on Saturday.

    Now…..
    I finally had the chance now to watch Tuesdays epi of HWNY, and here is my armchair psychological opinion. LOL!

    First, I wanted to throw something at the TV to shut Adiva up, but then, upon listening to her over and over, I realized who she was REALLY talking to.

    Isn’t there info out there that her mother was an alcoholic? A bad one? So, lets assume from that info that her mother’s conduct was not always stellar. Perhaps she had drunken moments of distasteful behavior, acted out, said inappropriate things and even embarrassed Adiva and her father at times. Alcoholics usually do this, so I think we are safe in imagining that.

    Now, Adiva’s father seems to dote on her….even bought her an island to play on, all because of her injury. Perhaps mother wasn’t as “present”. He clearly still thinks “the world” of her, and she clearly “adores” him.

    So, fast forward to today…and Adiva is taking all her repressed anger at her mother and her drinking out on Ramona. She is saying all those things she could never say to her mother…to Ramona. Ramonja is reflecting the (possible) behavior of her alcoholic mother, but Adiva may never have spoken out to her about it. She is clearly disgusted with this kind of thing…her aversion to it runs very deep, far deeper than Ramonja’s part in it warrants. Adiva is like a dog with a bone on this issue.

    Add to that Adiva worshiping her father for “everything he has done and been put through”….and her possible anger at her mother for not worshiping said father (because of HIS behavior)…..and you have Adiva expecting the women to “adore” Reid for getting her to St. Barth’s, etc, etc….and her obvious anger when they do not do as she bids.

    She is projecting her issues with both parents onto Ramonja and Reid, respectively. She is speaking to Ramonja as if she is speaking to her mother (in anger and disgust) and the other HW’s and Reid (in worship mode). She can’t distinguish this for herself and needs serious therapy to work it out. I would bet that her mother said some unsavory things to Adiva and her father while drinking and Adiva wanted to act out but couldn’t.

    Hence, she gives her father a pass for his bad behavior because he protected her and gave her things to appease her. She is acting out as the child who experienced all of this and never took the time to work through it as an adult.

    She is revolted by Ramonja’s behavior because she sees the reflection of her mother. She gives Loo Loo a pass, and worships Reid, because she sees her father in them.

    Well…there it is. My humble opinion! Am I off my rocker? (or armchair?) LOL!

    • Very interesting and good read.

      • NJBev says:

        Mardrag.
        I hope you are well. :)
        Well. your humble opinion makes a tremendous amount of sense.
        I agree. especially when you say about her mother not ‘adoring’ her
        father (Because of HIS behavior!)
        Let’s think about it, if your husband
        were that much of a sex addict, and you were someone
        prone to obsessive/compulsive behavior, and could not deal or control
        what your husband was doing, that would explain some of her
        obsession with alcohol. And in that day and age there were no ‘good’
        antidepressants, she’s (the mom) dealing the the amputee daughter,
        and the sex addicted husband.
        Unfortunately for adiva, she only remembers her Mother being drunk.
        She would never have been privy to the fact that her father, ‘who adored
        her’ was a sex addict and drove her Mother to drink.

    • Iowagirl says:

      Perhaps her mother had a friend (Ramona) that she felt enabled her poor helpless mother (Sonja).

    • You are on to something, Mardrag. Very good analysis of Aviva’s strange fixation on Ramonja. What was particularly distasteful to me is how Aviva went after Sonja, after Sonja rejected her “olive branch” of blaming all the slutty St. Bart’s behavior on Ramona’s “bad influence.” After Sonja rebuffed Aviva’s attempt to blame it all on Ramona, nasty Aviva then went after Sonja’s juglar. Telling her that Sonja was on a “downward spiral” that was so difficult for Aviva to witness (the nerve of Aviva even saying this to Sonja got me so upset!) really was the last straw for me. Aviva is one of those toxic people that must never be allowed into your life, on any level! Sonja was awesome to watch as she told Aviva off, which I loved every minute of and then placed her hat on her head and didn’t just walk away, Sonja sashayed away! Best.scene.ever!

      • mardrag26 says:

        I so agree bluesky about Sonja’s exit scene. It was perfection. Her whole attitude and the way she handled Adiva was right on the mark. I think she showed the classy lady that still survives under her outlandish “surface” behavior.

        That “downward spiral” remark from Adiva, I can’t help feeling, was something she had always wanted to say to her mother. She was salivating at the opportunity to finally say it, but it was to the wrong person. I applaud Sonja for keeping her cool and sending that energy right back to Adiva, where it belongs. Sonja had her boundaries well set and was not going to let anything Adiva said get inside and rile her.

        I made mental notes from this scene to use if I ever need to at some point. LOL!
        I do wear hats so…… :)

        • Eastbayca says:

          Watching RHONY One could say Adiva is also on a downward spiral….
          The scene of Sonja and Adiva will be one for the books….she ate, said her piece, placed hat on her head and sashayed out the restaurant.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Great post MarDrag. While I do believe Unvavivable’s contempt for Ramonja runs deep and could be rooted in her Mother’s alcoholism… My auto-recliner is telling me it also stems from pure out JEALOUSY! LOL yes that old, tried and true chestnut! I feel she was resentful as they were free with their bodies, going nude, cavorting like carefree co-eds. She may have also hated that these ‘old overweight housewives’ per Reid, would pique his curiosity as a man. Finally, deciding she couldn’t have them ‘acting’ like that in front of her husband, she made countless scenes criticizing their vacation mantra of not giving two flying focks about anything but great food, wine and party! She ruined the trip and I loved it when Sonja told her to kick rocks! LOL

          • mardrag26 says:

            Great points Amber! Adiva just might be jealous, as you say, that she can’t (or won’t) let go like the other women because she is so afraid of letting loose too much and ending up like her mother. So she has strung herself on a very tight rope. I also agree she was afraid of their behavior around Reid.

            I loved Sonja’s “return to sender” comment to Adiva. Yep….set boundaries and return all that negative energy right back to the sender….where it belongs. Bingo.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Great points. I think this whole RHW thing is bringing back the feeling of helplessness to Aviva and the feeling odd man out or not quite up to par from childhood. I hope she’s getting counseling by now.

    • disgrazia4 says:

      That sounds plausible to me.

    • Ça va says:

      And yet, I read online that ADD’s parents bought the house in Jamaica in 1970. Wasn’t ADD born in 1970? And she had the accident when she was six? Is this another case of revising history, like saying she was a runaway bride when supposedly she was really dumped?

      Whatever the cause of it, she has serious anger issues, among other things. Even in her last blog, where she didn’t, for once, attack fellow housewives, she had to get a dig in at commenters, bloggers, viewers, etc. She just can’t play nice. She’s probably gotten away with it most of her life because if someone fights back then they are the mean person going after the chick with one leg.

    • PJ says:

      I think Adiva is just a spoiled, selfish, narcissist. I think Ramona was being nice in saying Adiva had misplaced anger. Adiva doesn’t own it she hasn’t even put a down payment on it.

  11. ATLnNYC09 says:

    Im over Aviva. Shes boring and crazy at the same time. Crazy people usually arent boring. I do like Heather though, shes a straight shooter and manages to get along with everyone (which shows to me she has some touch of magic).

    • MamaZ says:

      I don’t really think Aviva is crazy. I think she’s spoiled and bratty. Let’s not let her off the hook that easily. She is responsible for her ugly behavior unlike KKB on Scary Island who really was out of her gourd.

      • Aviva’s bratty behavior and lack of parental correction/guidance (for whatever reasons, I’m not sure that even if Aviva hadn’t had that accident as a child that she would be any better than the person we see today) has morphed into one psychotic bitch, IMO. Aviva is out of control, telling Sonja that she’s on a downward spiral that is so awful for Aviva to witness. Really Aviva? Really? If you cared so much about Sonja, why are you putting this accusation on camera? If you really cared about Sonja, wouldn’t you talk to her when the cameras are OFF? Sonja has friends who care about her. I’m sure Ramona is talking to her OFF camera, and trying to help Sonja, because Ramona and Sonja have a real friendship.

        Aviva is still convinced that she had a very bad experience at St. Bart’s all due to Ramonja. No psychotic bitch Aviva, you had a bad time because of your own selfish behavior.

        Heather has Aviva pegged. Loved it when she told Aviva to let it go, enough already to her face. And then Heather finished it off in her talking head, pointing out Aviva’s obnoxious & selfish fixation on her own inability to just get over it!

        • PJ says:

          Yes Heather said she was beginning to think that Adiva had issues with self importance.

          • recalling the Sonja / Aviva scene in the kitchen … where Sonja says something along the lines about avivas ass being handed back to her or something like that… I almost think that Sonja knows that some of the viewers out here LOVE to research the playas in the game and Ms Morgan knew that if the viewers took a dislike to Aviva that we ( viewers) would be the ones to expose the dirt / skeletons on her…all the while Sonja keeps clean hands…. I know.. I have a vivid imagination that runs wild every so often……
            Diva

  12. WindyCityWondering says:

    As more and more “information” is coming out about the various players in the PFS casino, IMHO this is an attempt to spread the guilt around so the real responsible parties are protected.

  13. Just wanted everyone to know that Stephen Kling met his goal for the Heart Walk in Lynn’s name.

  14. Exit4 says:

    This whole “set up” is reminicent of Season 2. You remember, the reunion was going along, 3 against Danielle and all of a sudden….”the nephew” subject comes up. Most people were completely confused as to why Teresa freaked out the way she did. Suffice it to say, we get it now. Before the credits ran on that reunion, the “Mad Googlers” and Twitter Investigators” (and “show insiders”) were out in full force. Who’s the nephew? Is it a real nephew or Joe’s secret love child? Who’s the Sister in Law? Within hours, Melissa’s picture, Facebook postings and mini bio were being passed around and dissected. Then, as it goes these days, Melissa and her sisters opened Twitter accounts and were inundated with messages from her “fans”, none of whom knew anything about her, really. Of course, Melissa claimed she wasn’t even on the show yet, but she was sooo grateful for all of the love. 3 months later, Melissa (and Kathy) joined the cast and on the first day of filming gave Bravo what they wanted. A fight. Never mind it occured at her sons Christening. All of that drama and hoopla, from Danielles simple question “did you acknowkledge your nephew”?

    Fast forward a year or so. Out of the blue, Jac Laurita hits the Twitter with a series of accusations and hand wringing over the “set up” of her castmate. Again, the Googlers and Twitvestigators (and show sources) hit the ground running and by the next day we know pretty much all the details of Strippergate. It seems to be a pretty low thing to do, on the face of it, until the details emerge.

    As if by magic, seconds after “Strippergate” came to light, the mysterious Penny and Johnny emerge from anonimity (AKA open Twitter accounts and chat up bloggers). Just by happstenance, Penny’s family was involved in Lookers Gentlemens Club, the same club Lady Gorga tended bar at during her college days. They ran in the same circles back then, they had mutual pals that Mel dated and partied with. Like most of us, Melissa had a past before she met her husband and settled down. Unfortunately, when you are on reality TV, your past, no matter how innocuous, will haunt you. Especially when someone else has an agenda.

    It’s a complete coincidence, I’m sure, that when Kim D. chose the Posche Fashion Show “Beauty Director”, she chose Penny. Interesting still, this year, Kim changed her usual method of having the HW’s (or HW’s family-Ashlee) walk in the show. Instead, choosing to use regular garden variety models. All of whom had their hair and male-up done by Beauty Director Penny and her staff, whose salon name appears on the step and repeat. Obviously, a Beauty Directors job doesnt begin and end at the salon. Penny (and her husband Johnny-her partner) would of course be at the show, you know, for “touch ups” and a congratulatory end credit. This would of cource facilitate their need for a PR Director-who we now know goes by the name Angelo. Who just so happened to have been some sort of “manager” at Lookers, at the same time Melissa was a bartender. Geez, it really is a small world, isn’t it?

    Now, Kim D., being a busy lady, with all her fashion shows duties, of course needs HER hair and make-up done. Who else would she go to but Penny? And heck, if Kim is going to the salon, why not invite the other girls? Too bad only Teresa showed up. The other ladies must not have been able to make it. Look closely, when Kim and Teresa emerge from the way to big for 2 people limo (excluding the camera crew, of course) Penny and Johnny have kindly set up velvet ropes and a red carpet. I guess they were expecting someone (or someones) else! Or they just like their customers to feel special.

    Luckily, the hard working Angelo was there, to seat them, get them drinks and let Teresa know her Sister In Law was a stripper. Life really does come full circle at the beauty salon doesn’t it? Naturally, everyones friend Kim D. assures Teresa in the limo that the event will be drama free this year. She also kindly stops by her table, where she, by chance, has seated Teresa with 5 women who hate her. Ain’t she nice? (XO Lynn). Oddly enough, 3 of the 5 women, who are “done” with Teresa, have not taken issue with her being at their table. Beacuse, in HW’s land, you see, being “done” means “spend as much time as possible with a person you loathe”. Drama never happens in a scenario like that, does it?

    Somewhere between the salad and the main course, PR Diector/former Strip Club Manager Angelo approaches the table of a woman he apparently just met and one he hasn’t seen in years. Whose table just happens to be surrounded by cameras and boom operators. And just like the end of season 2, hoopla and drama (and the emergence of secondary players) arises from one simple question….”Hi Melissa, do you remember me”?

    • Exit 4 agree with you. I’m still dazed and confused with the PFS set up. According to Will Love ( @WillLoveInc on twitter) there was a lot more to that PFS than we are going to see. Penny & Johnny went all out, to help take down Melissa. In addition to Angelo, they had many of Melissa’s coworkers at the PFS. Just imagining that, scares me. To what purpose the Bravo producers went, really it is awful. They used Penny & Johnny, getting them to hope that they would be featured on the show. The producers supposedly sent texts to everyone at the table (except Teresa!) about Angelo, so they knew what was going down.

      Pete Giudice has a shady connection to Penny and Johnny. Now he’s said on twitter that he has no friendship with them. Here’s where I suspect that Pete helped the “let’s bring down Melissa” storyline, encouraging Penny & Johnny to do everything they did.

      At some point, maybe Teresa did want to see Melissa get her comeuppance. Perhaps being the “star” of the show has gone to her head, and she wanted to get Melissa back for all the things Melissa, her evil sisters, and even her brother Joey have done to her.

      Here’s what bothers me. If Teresa was entirely innocent, wouldn’t she have protected Melissa more? That scene in the bathroom does make Teresa look bad. Teresa did bring it up to Melissa, about her “dancing” past. However, Melissa is more than capable of turning the table on Teresa. Melissa even said “say it Teresa, say it!” Melissa was egging Teresa on. Really this is the point where Teresa should have refused, to protect her family, she should have walked right out of that bathroom, AND she should have said “I don’t like what’s happening here.” Then we could honestly say Teresa really didn’t want to hurt her sil. Instead, Teresa opened up the opportunity for them all to blame her for bringing up Melissa’s past.

      I don’t want to watch any more, because I truly believe this show is scripted, manipulated, and disgusting how they are using this family’s drama to make $. Shame on Bravo, shame on the cast members – all of them – and shame on the viewers (me!) for watching.

      • PJ says:

        For me the look on Melissa’s face said it all. First at the table the feigned innocence that Melissa is so good at. Then in the bathroom Melissa wanted Teresa to say it, she was egging her on, as you said, was practically drooling and all the while looking so smug like the cat that swallowed the canary. Then Joey so conveniently waiting next door to come in and make a scene, please I will never believe that Melissa wasn’t in on this. This was so scripted.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Maybe Pete Guidice was there because Joe Guidice was not invited to wait next door with the other husbands…..

        • T-Rex says:

          I don’t agree, since we have now learned that Melissa DIDN’T know Angelo, never worked with Angelo directly I think she really didn’t know him. Not saying she is innocent in anything else on this show she has certainly lied and was a shit-stirrer, but again WHY does Teresa get herself in the mess, she has done this season after season, she LIKES to be involved in the Drama, I don’t get it. WALK AWAY, say nothing but Nope BigMouth Teresa sticks her foot in it again, sorry but she did this to herself, Bravo dangled the bait knowing she would take it and take it she did.

          • Rebecca says:

            Why? Because she was following the shitty script Bravo wrote for her! They’re all terrible actors. This was worse than a middle school play rehearsal. I bet you if the camera panned around, we would see a producer mouthing the words Teresa was supposed to say.

          • PJ says:

            Melissa claims she doesn’t know him anyway but if she is a liar how can we know what to believe from her.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              PJ. I was wondering the same thing. We know when Melissa is lying because her lips and head are moving. IMO.

      • VV says:

        Teresa is not a fast thinker. I found that bathroom scene more telling on Melissa’s part because she was egging Teresa. If somebody had told me what Teresa said Angelo said. I would had started cursing and bad mouthing that guy and actually asked Teresa you don’t believe that crap, right. Instead, Melissa’s reaction is to call “your brother” not “Joey or my husband”. Something is off on that bathroom scene. I think Melissa knew.

        SIDE NOTE: right before Angelo approaches the table the hyenas are trying to get Melissa’s attention and she throws her arms in the end.

        • PJ says:

          Oh I think Snake knew.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          We haven’t been treated to the entire scene – but we can see Teresa struggling with whether or not to tell Melissa about meeting Angelo and what he said because she got burned really bad when she repeated a rumor off camera to her brother in the past. Melissa is eager to get Teresa to spill the rumor so she can bring out the big guns – and hit Teresa where it hurts the most – her brother’s love and acceptance……Melissa was gleefully giddy when she said, “I’m gonna tell your brother!”….

          • Called A Princess... says:

            I think Teresa is very afraid of her brother! He has proven on the show, to be a nasty person, more often then not. They seem to really want Tre off the show. Then there will be no show. The enemy camp is dumb as brick work. IMO.

  15. I just received this:

    WARNING TO us ALL!!!

    Shampoo Warning!

    I don’t know WHY I didn’t figure this out sooner!

    I use shampoo in the shower!

    When I wash my hair, the shampoo runs down my whole body, and Printed

    very clearly on the shampoo label is this warning,

    “FOR EXTRA BODY AND VOLUME.” No wonder I have been gaining weight!

    Well! I have gotten rid of that shampoo and I am going to start showering with Sunlight dish soap instead. Its label reads, “DISSOLVES FAT THAT IS OTHERWISE DIFFICULT TO REMOVE.”

    Problem solved!

  16. WindyCityWondering says:

    Teresa went from kooky, unfiltered, loyal family friend of the Manzo/Laurita clan to public enemy number one – why? IMHO, because there is only room for one family on RHNJ and Teresa’s nuclear family was cute and every business opportunity that came her way she pounced on with success. This show was supposed to be about Caroline, wise and loving matriarch, and her darling adult children, who were supposed to gain the fame and the fortunes.

    • MamaZ says:

      Teresa was the supposed to be the sidekick. But the viewers didn’t get that memo.

    • You got it Windy. Caroline & Lauren don’t like Melissa & Kathy (remember what Lauren said about them at the Manzo’s backyard party, where Gia had her meltdown) either, they are just using the Gorgas & Wakiles to help bring down Teresa.

      • Just like how Teresa was also a handy aide in bringing Danielle down.

      • PJ says:

        If they are successful in bringing Teresa down they will continue to follow the same pattern and there will be another public enemy to bring down because it’s what they do. Take warning Snake and Saint you’re next. I think the cracks are already forming in the relationships.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        yes, it was as if Lauren was saying…”this was supposed to OUR show!!!” “Not THEIR show!!” just speculating, as usual.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          Lainey, I got that on Game Day when Lauren was complaining in the kitchen about not having it be a family fun day rather all the stranger/drama, as she pointed to Melissa and I think Kathy whispering and Gia’s meltdown. Lauren should only be brought out on Halloween, as a troll. IMO.

    • T-Rex says:

      I guess for some that’s how it reads, but from day one I have disliked the mean, brash woman who let her kids totally dismantle a store then threw large wads of money at everything, knowing full well that her husband’s business was tanking. What we found out Season 2 was that the Juicy’s were broke(were broke S1), illegally and fraudulently signed a name to a documents for loans, filed for bankruptcy after spending wads of dough on a house and furnishings they could not afford, lied to the bankruptcy courts, and hid money, by the way that litigation is still on going. What we saw was two loud mouthed folks, that were lying, cheating, theives, hell she didn’t even PAY for those bubbies they were in the bankruptcy documents, wonder if they are even paid for now. They have no discipline for thie children and her lout of an unemployed cheating husband has the mouth of something worse than a truck driver and I think he calls his wife the C word a lot, don’t think that was a one time deal, we have heard him verbally abuse her in FRONT of the cameras, no telling how much more evil it is behind closed doors. Look I have ZERO love for the rest of the cast, they are bad too, just can’t get past what we have already seen just because folks “appear” to be ganging up on her, for many seasons she was on TeamMean when it suited her, well Karma is a bitch.

      • Trex… dont forget they also did not pay the fertility clinic for audriana…. I almost think that Tre stays with Joe because he has the “dirt” on her that she was fully aware about all the financial misdeeds…. he in turns knows he can do whatever he wants to her while he holds this info over her head… i wonder if some of the anger that carolwhine has towards them comes from the Brownstone allegedly NOT getting paid for the big baptism party tre had there…..hmmm

        diva

        • T-Rex says:

          DonCaro I am sure was FULLY compensated by Bravo for the Baptism party only way they would probably allow the cameras to film there. Look I dislike the Manzo’s and didn’t think the show necessarily revolved around them in the beginning, but I checked out after Season 2 and just read the blogs.

      • lady balls says:

        been saying for two days here tre had this coming for all the reasons noted above. when one acts with that much deception, fraud, and entitlement, it’s going to come back to that person 100 times worse. this is tre’s comeupance whether she’s being prosecuted for her actual crimes or not is irrelevant now.

        • Maybe….which makes my mind wonder what the rest of the motley crew are in store for.

          • lol you betcha, they ALL have done shady things, every last one of them. Ritchie with his illegal checks, to the tune of $250000 that he wrote, and was charged with CHECK FRAUD in connection with his gas station. Was it Exxon? Ritchie doesn’t own anything, trust me. I do believe Bravo paychecks saved the Wakiles’ collective asses. Chris Laurita for cleaning out his corporation before selling it, for which he is involved in a legal suit now. Al for being on the water board of a town that he did not live in, and from which his family received medical insurance coverage….for many years, ripping off all of us NJ taxpayers. Brownstone being sued for not paying the staff overtime. JoGo for not paying contractors, many lawsuits filed against him….and then there’s Juicy, who is going to jail for using fake documents (his brother’s papers) to illegally obtain a driver’s license. Plus all the fraud Juicy did with his bankruptcy.

            dirty Jersey, is dirty indeed.

            • lady balls says:

              are you a business owner or lawyer?

              i’m curious because my husband is a lawyer.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                To me the universal law only applies if Bravo gets away with the bad edit. That does not seem to be happening. The casino has to be moved away from the bad actors and put solely on Mr. Cohen, his production monkeys, and Bravo/NBC for creating one more fraudulent story line. Another example of a corporation having no respect for the American family. JMHO.

          • PJ says:

            Yes they would all have us believe that only Teresa is bad, we would have to be pretty stupid to buy that.

        • RealHousewifeVA says:

          But she is more successful and popular now than ever before. Everything she sells does well. She’s the one invited to all the talk shows, events, speaking engagements.
          I always felt bad for Tre how she was getting ganged up on and ambushed. But now I see how she goes along with the fake timelines and kisses Andy’s ass…I realize she totally does not mind what her family and ex-friends are saying about her. This stuff has made her a 3 time bestseller and is now making her Fabellini and Milania haircare a big hit.

      • zoey1234 says:

        T-Rex, you said it girlfriend. I can’t even read about her and all this silly crap anymore. I don’t like her and her lifestyle, regardless of any other hoodlums on the show.

  17. Exit4 says:

    Bravos dilemma is that we’ve spent 2 seasons watching the same people have the same fights. There is no resolution to these fights and most likely there won’t be. Are they stupid enough to spend another season subjecting us to this? Maybe. If the finale and reunion ratings are high enough, they will assume, that no matter how much people complain, they are watching. Because thats what matters. None of these ladies are leaving on their own accord, they have too much to promote (songs, books, shampoo, baked goods, shops, restaurants, Autism Awareness) and the money is too good to walk away from.

    So, IMO, the ladies will be back, in some way, next year. However, Bravo has set the stage (with Strippergate) for some new cast members, if the viewers start to turn on the show. Which, obviously means not watching. We’ll see how the next 3-4 weeks play out ratings wise, that’s what will make the decision.

  18. RealHousewifeVA says:

    When Melissa and Kathy were brought onto NJ housewives, they were brought on with the understanding that they will be feuding with Teresa (‘bring her down’). Teresa put a wrench in the plans when she so desperately kept running to her brother to try and make it work and then eventually DID make it work. The Napa trip was the perfect opportunity, in the eyes of the Gorga loving production crew, to watch Teresa flip out and cause a casino. But whoops…wait…what? Teresa was friendly with all, talking out her issues and remaining cordial. So in comes Kathy to make sure the Napa trip wasn’t a big fail (for Brava and their love of trip-drama). Fight with Caroline and Teresa ensues. But still, Teresa didn’t react badly enough…CAROLINE was the one who looked crazy. Yeesh…they were not succeeding in getting Teresa to react the way she had in the past (flip the table, flip Andy).
    Operation “Set up Melissa” begins. I’m sure production encouraged Teresa to go to the salon with with Kim that day so they could film it. Teresa clearly looked surprised and unsure how to react to Angelo. But STILL, they are not getting what they want out of Teresa. I think even next week, they didn’t get what they wanted out of Teresa (instead of relishing in the new info, Teresa freaks out and doesn’t want to hear it and doesn’t want anyone else to talk about it…who is this girL??) So now, they are going to rely on the ‘trusty’ close captioning to bring Teresa down?

    What a joke this season turned out to be.
    Melissa and Jac have proven to be straight up liars when they filmed their talking heads this past March and STILL went along with the bogus storyline that Melissa was babysitting Teresa’s kids during the Fabellini launch and Jac didn’t know why she wasn’t invited.. as if we are morons who wouldn’t find out the real timeline (She took the girls in July, Posche show in September, Fabellini launch in October).
    To me, that proves what a straight up liar and desperate fame whore they are. So desperate to make Teresa look bad.
    They could not let this season rest with Teresa making nicey nicey with everyone, and even remaining kind and cordial to the psycho Caroline who attacked her several times this season and didn’t get the reaction she had hoped out of Teresa.

    Teresa’s blog was on point…she’s the only one who hasn’t had to spend endless hours trying to convince everyone of anything. Unlike wacky jacky who spent an entire year pretending Teresa was the devil and saying we would see it this season. What did I see? I saw Teresa getting attacked for rag mag covers that showed only TERESA in a bad light. Teresa then trying to make amends with Jacqueline and Melissa and having a good time in Napa and during the playdate, etc, while the mean girls look on with contempt.

    • MamaZ says:

      After all the stories about Tre and Juicy’s finances a lot of people hated Teresa. IMO Bravo was planning on dumping her the way they did Danielle. Melissa and Kathy kindly offered to do the dirty work. The intention was to make Teresa look so bad that the viewers would cheer her downfall. But Bravo didn’t count on the rabid Teresa fans who were willing to forgive and forget. And then there were the people like me who were disgusted by the pile on.
      Bravo should have seen after their first season together that the take down wasn’t working. But the friendship between the Manzos, Gorgas and a couple of producers clouded everyones judgement. They have backed themselves into a corner now. They will have to either find something huge about Teresa, like she eats live puppies for breakfast, or they are going to have to do some serious back pedaling(sp?) to resolve this mess.

      • disgrazia4 says:

        I love this post Mama Z. You are absolutely right!

      • Yes Mamaz plus add on the fact that Andy really hates Teresa & Juicy. Maybe because of Juicy’s anti-gay slurs, his criminal behavior, or Gia saying she didn’t want to marry a Jew (while they made the sauce in the garage), Teresa selling more books than him, or just because he doesn’t like them for them – Andy is pro Manzo (he loves those Manzo boyz!) and anti Giudice.

        I really think the whole “let’s bring Teresa down” was Andy’s agenda, and I’m so glad it backfired.

        Just look at what he’s done at the reunions. Who is there to take Teresa’s side? Juicy & Kim D, that’s it. He’s got everyone else, their husbands, and even their kids – to tear into Teresa at this next reunion.

      • Love your whole post!
        As to “back pedaling(sp?) ” – you spelled it correctly. :-) (Pedaling – pedals on a bike, moving the bike; peddling – moving about selling things, door-to-door sales)

    • disgrazia4 says:

      O.M.G. This is so right. I really think you got something here. I want to post this comment as well over at the FB group and have Donna (I forgot her Lynnfam blog name) pay close attention with her lip reading skills. We can figure out the truth here better than any stinkin’ Jersey Reunion will! LOL :-D

      • disgrazia, it’s been revealed by someone on twitter that the one that forgets his mike is on is Angelo. However, with all the editing done to the PFS, alls I know is, the producers edited it to make Teresa look responsible – for everything.

        So one week Teresa is a dunce, the next she is the mastermind behind the whole set up. Just wish Teresa could say at the reunion, look how this season was patched together, out of order, even Rich & Juicy being edited to say things that were never said like that. Bring up the producers, what they did….that would be so good, but we know it will never happen.

        When Lauren quizzes Teresa at the reunion, asking her what some big words mean, that’s going to make me mad. I do hope Teresa is smart enough to bring up all the times Lauren has displayed her stupidity (constructing man, can’t figure out road signs in California, etc.).

        • disgrazia4 says:

          Oh man! I’m about ready to copy and paste all these comments! Last night I was up late organizing the links to various characters for this Jersey casino for posting on the FB wall. These comments clearly have logic on their side when viewed against the links I have. The whole Teresa set Melissa up just doesn’t pass the sniff test!

          • Called A Princess... says:

            No one here mentioned that on Housewives of New York. When Ramona and Sonja went to have “work” done before the “Girls Vacation,” while Ramona is lying on the bed getting the shot in the leg, she mad a statement about feeling it shoot up her “Bleep.” The sub titles implied cu** but the sound edit really implied that she said butt or ass, which is a bit different. The point is Ramona does not seem the type to use the C word, ever. But the scene was in commercial after commercial because it was part of the, “next on NYC” ad spots. Of all the words for Bravo to misuse to mislead. It speaks a lot to the mind set of this particularly creepy, good old boys club. The show is conceived for women to watch, but like poison, the messages sent are hard to swallow and need to be viewed with a stink eye! IMO.

  19. MamaZ says:

    How awesome was Cloris Leachman on WWHL? As much as I like Jeff Lewis I wanted him to shut up when she was telling that poignant story about Judy Garland.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      ITA – Cloris was so interesting and Jeff Lewis is not. I did like the called who yelled at him because he deserved it before asking her question!

    • I didn’t see the whole show, but enjoyed watching Cloris Leachman tell her stories. Why is Andy such an idiot? Those lame games, stupid jackhole of the week, mazel of the week….who cares? Let the conversation flow, it’s NOT about you Andy, it’s about the guests. Really Andy gets on my nerves so much I can’t stand to watch WWHL. He is so unprofessional. Plus how he handles the housewive’s reunions, his favoritism, and outright attempts to sway the viewer’s opinions really get to me.

      Is there anyone left that even thinks his stupid polls aren’t totally rigged? Try getting thru to ask a question…..that’s rigged too. Only certain people asking the “right” questions get thru, believe it.

      • MamaZ says:

        Especially when you have a guest like Cloris Leachman! She is fascinating. I wanted to hear more about being propositioned by Brando and turning him down, knowing Ronald Reagan, being neighbors with Judy Garland. She is a wealth of Old Hollywood history.

        • I’d buy any book Cloris writes, wish she would write a memoir with all these stories. :)

          • MamaZ says:

            Me too!

            • LaineyLainey says:

              me too!!! I’ll bet she’s done it all and seen it all!!

              • Called A Princess... says:

                Andy is an idiot because the show is all about him. You hear actors take about how generous another actor is while reading a scene. I talk show host has to remember that the show is only as good as the weakest question and response. Andy is so about his fame and accomplishments that he can not let someone else shine unless they are crude and it will make him look better. He likes interview Teresa because he feels smarter then her. The real talent like Cloris, he seems to just want to rub up against for famed fairy dust. I guess we need a ‘Art of Listening,’class, in charm school. JMHO.

  20. disgrazia4 says:

    What I wrote to SonJa that is STILL awaiting approval. Personally, I don’t think it will make it based on my track record with Bravo.

    I admire the way you handled Kelly 2.0. As I wrote to Carole, including her own quote:

    “Aviva owns her behavior and Sonja has a laundry basket full of problems.”

    Really?? Looked to me like Adiva came with a pile of laundry that Sonja folded and organized and returned to Adiva’s basket. She sorted Adiva out. She schooled Adiva in how a woman takes care of a problem child.

    • Iowagirl says:

      100 percent correct! I know a lot of business women who would benefit from watching that clip with Sonja. It is obvious that Sonja has been there done that, listen and learn Adiva, you were bested buy an expert.

    • Eastbayca says:

      LIKE.
      I got the impression from Carole’s blog, that she is giving Aviva a pass on her despicable behavior and not Ramonja…..Ramonja are reacting to Aviva’s cray cray.

      • MamaZ says:

        Aviva hasn’t “owned” her behavior at all! She tried to blame Ramona and Sonja for bullying her. WHAAAT?

        • Eastbayca says:

          Mamaz, that is the WHAAAT heard around the World.
          Aviva is throwing insults, slinging mud, has basically been on a campaign (media articles, social media) against Ramonja yet she is the victim……she needs therapy STAT.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Yes, it was obvious she was actively doing CYA type activities. (Cover YOur A$$). We all wondered why…then we saw the episodes of the vacay from Hell. No amount of CYA will help you now, Aviva.

  21. WindyCityWondering says:

    Melissa’s blog is up – she just can’t stop lying! And now Teresa says she is a drug user….guess I missed that one.

    • MamaZ says:

      Melissa must be great at doing the Limbo – How low can you go?
      Pretty dang LOW!

      • I guess Teresa must have went through Melissa recycling and found all those empty cans of whipping cream.

        • Rabble…every time someone writes about WHIPPING CREAM.. I get an ear worm..just had to do it….LOL

          • mardrag26 says:

            Oh Diva, does this bring back memories of parties and doing the Pogostick! Love it!!

            • Mardrag.. I had a pogostick when i was kid..LOVED IT… one of my brothers had a pair of shoes with springs on the soles and we would BOUNCE our way up and down the sidewalk..Mom would yell at us that one of these days we were going to break our necks.. Ralphy..you’ll shoot your eye out !!!!! hahahahaha

              • NJBev says:

                Diva,
                I am so happy to see you again.
                Your posts (pogostick,)
                ( Ralphy, you’ll shoot your eye out!)
                make me so HAPPY. someone to relate to.
                (In my eyes)
                I’m so glad Mr. Ford is well,
                I hope you have the best of everything,
                You deserve it.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      She is an attention whore. She doesnt care if its good or bad attention, as long as people are talking about Melissa.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      Even if the things she said were true (and I dont believe her), Melissa started the battle. She went back and pulled Danielle from the trenches to set Teresa up. Then she put out an audition take down tape to get on the show. Shes not innocent in this and brought alot of this on herself. Teresa doesnt hate Melissa enough to do a Kim D set up but Melissa hates Teresa enough to do a Danielle S. set up.

      • NYCer says:

        I think what happened with Danielle was different. Melissa wasn’t on the show, she had a rocky relationship with Tre, and she badmouthed her to Danielle via social media. As far as I remember the worst of it was Danielle asking Tre if she went to the hospital to visit her nephew. Right?
        Meanwhile, if Tre was involved in Kim D’s setup, she was responsible for slandering her sister-in-law on tv by calling her a stripper. It would be a big deal to me if someone called me a stripper and tried to bring others forward to promote that lie.

  22. Eastbayca says:

    Can you imagine if Ramona hadn’t asked Jill to leave “scary island” what sort of drama would have ensued?
    And if they were able to discuss KKB’s “breakthrough”, what the episodes following the trip would have been like?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The fact that KKB was escorted home makes me believe that the crazy got way out of control so Bravo couldn’t allow it to be discussed. The fact that AvivaDiva had Reid with her make sme believe that he was responsible for her behavior while on Booty Island. Why Bravo likes to go to the crazy side amazes me as this is not entertainment.

      • MamaZ says:

        I never really understood why JZ showed up the way she did. She had been in touch with KKB the whole time. Ramona and Bethenny called her and told her Kelly was off the rails. She saw Kelly at the airport so she knew she had left St. Johns.
        So why did she waltz in like nothing had happened? If she had been told by production that the women couldn’t talk about what happened she should have changed her plans and not gone at all.
        Was it because Bethenny called her? Did she think she would arrive and B would run into her arms like a frightned child and she would get to comfort her, they would make up and all would be well?

        • MamaZ… your last question is really the answer to your first sentence…For JZ it’s never about anyone or anything else except herself..Like Aviva… Aviva REALLY should have listened to Reid’s cousin Fran when she told her NOT to appear on HWS… Now all the skeletons will be unearthed…. let the digging commence…winks

          Diva

        • T-Rex says:

          TheLUNATIC(jz) showed up because she realized what a HUGE mistake she had made by putting that “line in the sand” and refusing to go to St. Bart’s cause she was mad at Bravo for not letting her host an event on Bravo’s dime. EVERYONE stated that they had called LUNATIC throughout the trip to try and get her to talk KKB off the ledge. What did LUNATIC do, knowing and fretting about not being a part of a historic series of episodes, she changed her flight, didn’t tell ANYONE but the producers she was doing so, asked everyone on production to not say anything she wanted her entrance to be a surprise, fully knowing that all the ladies had had a serious ordeal regarding KKB. Also knowing that it was SO serious that everyone had to sign agreements not to talk about what happened, that production staff had to be called in to escort KKB from the island(and I am not sure that some doctor wasn’t involved to sedate KKB at some point, heard that rumor), in fact LUNATIC had seen the producers escorting KKB through the airport. LUNATIC wanted to be a part of the action, and in turn alienated almost everyone on the cast and most certainly the audience, no on was on her side especially after that

  23. Stars99 says:

    Great recaps, you guys… I think I must be getting more and more cynical because quite frankly I don’t really believe anything anyone says anymore on these shows. If I wanted distortion, contrived and made-up scenes, faux friendships, faux enemies, faux drama… I would watch other shows that are actually scripted…. and that give writers credit for their scripting. I find myself trying to make sense out of something that will actually never make sense. But this I know; fame corrupts; and absolute fame corrupts absolutely. People will say and do just about ANYTHING to be famous and/or to make money. That means sacrificing friendships, family, the truth, and even themselves. And yet I still watch the oncoming crash and in the aftermath I pick through the wreckage and the carnage that’s left along the side of the road along the way. I just no longer categorize it as “Reality TV” but “Scripted TV” complete with writers and actors who are paid well to weave a rug using one thread of truth and 13 billion threads of lies. It will just never make sense to me – and it shouldn’t.

    • MamaZ says:

      Every single adult on this show is capable of betrayal and deception. That’s why it’s so hard to say Teresa is innocent or Kim D set this up. This group is the perfect storm of selfishness and bad intentions. At the very least Teresa is guilty of poor judgement.

    • BB says:

      I couldn’t have said it better myself. However, I will not be watching the aftermath of the crash (the reunion). When I watch scripted tv, I expect something with a decent storyline, good actors and superior writing or I’m not going to waste my time.

    • Powell says:

      Stars the whole NJ crew has done what they ‘ve done for money. T has let mags write whatever about her to get paid for the pics. She wrote a cookbook and put nonsense that has nothing to do w/cooking to get sales. So you are absolutely right when it comes to this crew.

  24. melthehound says:

    Happy Birthday Amber … Real Wife :) Hope you’re having a great day…

    http://realhousewifeofaiken.com/2012/09/19/fauxality-wednesday-samcro/

  25. ATLnNYC09 says:

    They really need to give Jersey housewives a LONG break. This show has went from dark to evil. They dont need to bring it back until 2014, if then.

  26. Powell says:

    Why did Andrew tell his employer that he has a trust fund and the stip to him getting it is that he work until he’s 40? It’s none of Jeff’s biz, it’s not required & it certainly is our biz. I wonder how his family feels about him broadcasting it on national TV. There is no potential for someone to do something bad to Andrew.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      perhaps production made him do it. To make him more interesting? You know, to add another facet to his story.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        The point is they should not even know. That is information that is dangerous for those outside family and lawyers to know. Now he has to deal with Jeff the A-Hole jerking him around and rabbit toothed jealous boy friend lurking for a reason to fire, at will. Not to mention, the rest of the world, now knows his financial business. What an idiot! JMHO.

  27. Powell says:

    There Jeff goes again discussing HR/employee problems w/clients. Jeff should’ve had his on file yrs ago. This is another reason why the biz/employee/ mgt office lines are so blurred. If an employee sued Jeff I don’t think he’d have a leg to stand on. I like Jeff but he needs to stop this. He’s putting his biz in jeopardy.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jeff Lewis should have a complaint file a mile high – he loves to humiliate everyone around him and calls it “a button pushing hobby”. Seriously wondering how many people would not use his services after seeing the show.

      • chismosa says:

        His show has been on for AGES…. and he seems to get wonderful business each and every year, especially after having close close friends totally burn him– Ryan and Chris, Jenni’s ex (i even emailed Jeff at some address he gave out — about the Ryan thing because i was so upset over it!)
        Clearly people ‘get’ him since he continues to flourish. Not everyone’s cup of tea i understand that.

        And it’s funny that it seems people don’t ‘leave’ him– he winds up firing them first. Clearly they can’t be that unhappy if they stick it out some time.

    • Orson says:

      Can you imagine the stuff that doesn’t make it to the tv show?

      • Called A Princess... says:

        Some men seem to get passes for awful childish behavior. I guess it is entertaining to see other people get abuse. I can only deal for about ten minutes, then the channel must change. The real world can be hostile enough without having to see Jeff Lewis ‘Flipping Out.’ He is better then Patti Stanker. I give her 1 minute. Just because people need a job or want to be on a TV show does not excuse the weirdo antics that we see from the self absorbed Jeff Lewis. If we witness a women behaving the same way for a half hour, we would be calling her out, big time. But Jeff is charming and successful so we give him a pass for being a total jackass. He is not the worst TV has to offer, but he is not the best either. That goes for the human side of it too! JMHO.

  28. WCW… I hear you about Jeff.. His act is getting old….. I thought his behavior towards Cloris last night was less than desirable..I changed the channel…..

  29. dickens says:

    I have nothing to add to everyone’s great points and opinions.
    Just wanted to say happy birthday to Amber…Real Wife! Hope you have a good one! :)

  30. Kat from Ohio says:

    i’m so disgusted by the jersey debacle

  31. disgrazia4 says:

    FYI- Princess Melissa has released her tome. Actually it’s more of a tomette, a little argument. No words from Jac. Now that will likely be a tome..or nothing at all.

  32. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Everyone knows Jeff Lewis is acting right? They are all actors or wanna be actors…maybe even Zoila!!!

  33. BB says:

    I believe he’s acting and I believe his employees and clients are in on it. I’m just not finding it as amusing as I used to. All the potty talk (dirty tampons, urine on toilet seats, rancid tuna) is getting old really fast. Bravo is sprialing downward and it really saddens me.

  34. Well lookey here… Andrew Coleman is NOT new to Jeff Lewis Design.. He worked for him last season on Interior therapy…. He’s in the closet here being sprayed with perfume…starts around the 10 second mark….. When is Bravo ever going to learn that the viewers do have smarts !!

    http://www.bravotv.com/interior-therapy-with-jeff-lewis/season-1/videos/perfume-fight

    Diva

    • Kansas Girl says:

      So maybe both shows were filmed at the same time? When “Andrew” worked for Jeff?

      Do we know anything about this guy? Is his name even correct?

  35. VV says:

    Melissa, sorry honey. You lied to when you pretended you didn’t know about the rumors Tre told your brother. You also lied when you said you were babysitting Teresa’s kids so, that she could go to Fabellini party. You also, lied when you said the Manzos didn’t go your show because they were in DC. Again, you lied when you acted out the part of peacemaker at Caroline’s home. Sorry, the cat’s out of the bag and your credibility diminishes with every tweet every article about you.

  36. Exit4 says:

    **SPOILER ALERT (maybe, erring on side of caution)**
    Dont read further if you dont want to know.
    Just picked up the new US Weekly and got the goods on the rest of the season. And other stuff.

    Angelo is picked up on mic laughing to someone and says “Kim and Teresa want to blow the whistle on [Gorga]”. Apparently MeGo didn’t know him that well, as he was a day manager and she worked nights. As a bartender.

    Apparently Teresa assaulted Melissa at Gia and Milanias badly party in January. She twisted her arm when she was holding Joey and called Melissa fake.

    Teresa called club owners and told them not to book Melissa.

    Jac told Melissa before the fashion show and told her Jac got a text from a friend (she won’t say who) and warned her stuff was going down, but didn’t know the target.

    Before Napa, Teresa told Melissa that someone called her and told Teresa Melissa was a stripper. Teresa called someone else and they told her she was a bartender. Melissa questions Teresa as to why she’s making phone calls about that.

    The reunion is 3 parts and as we know Lauren makes flash cards and makes Teresa define words from her blog. Teresa cannot do this. Caroline makes fun of Teresa dress. Joe and teresa fight, Teresa doesn’t admit any wrong doing (well duh) and Kathy touches Teresas arm and threatens to sue her. So Kathy threatens to sue Teresa for touching her face in Napa. Also, Melissa and Teresa are seated next to each other and Teresa keeps her back to Mel the whole time.

    So, it seems Angelo slips that Teresa set this whole thing in motion. She’s much smarter then we thought I guess! LOL.

    Last bit not least, Teresa will be fired before next season. Her Castmates won’t film with her and she holds the same grudges. They are looking for. New “mean girl” to replace her.

    Your welcome-I just saved you all $3.99 and possibly 4 hours of your life, since there’s no need to turn in now! It is what it is!

    • lady balls says:

      juicy.
      pun intended.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      LOL – seriously, who believes anything these rags print?

    • The Tin Man says:

      I had decided not to watch the reunion because from all reports, it’s just a scream fest and fuster cluck, but after reading this, I might change my mind. It sounds like comedy gold! Flash cards and threats of lawsuits? Hahahaha!

      • chismosa says:

        i think it’s very interesting they’re doing a 3 parter. I feel like 3 part reunions have disappeared of late so it must be SUPER juicy stuff

        Lauren is going to look like a size 0 by then. I hope she’s not on the couch the WHOLE time– you are not a housewife! Your mom hates you! Get out!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          YOu make me laugh, chismosa!

          • chismosa says:

            seriously i think Caroline will want Lauren on to do some of her bidding for her. Flashcards? I think that’s funny bc i do hate Teresa but come on. Who knows how much Jacqueline will do for Caro, maybe Jacqueline will wind up taking another nap!

            ;)

    • VV says:

      US Weekly. Preferred magazine of choice of the Gorgas.

    • Thanks for posting this.
      I don’t think Bravo is going to like some rag getting the drop before the episode and reunion come out.
      I also don’t think they like the cast deciding whose on the chopping block and who is not.

      The bottom line is Teresa has a bigger fan base than all of them put together. It is what it is.

      If Teresa does get the ax, I won’t watch. Not because I am a fan of Teresa’s but because this will be the second time Bravo succumbed to the will of Caroline Mazo.

      I want Caroline gone most of all, she can take her nut bag sister in law with her.

      Melissa sucks and can keep spinning her wheels with this so called music career and Kathy is a non entity.

      • VV says:

        I think Melissa got Bravo’s blessing for this article. This is the story that Bravo tried to sell the viewers and they are not departing from it.

      • Sam says:

        I agree. Until this season, I was no Teresa fan (far from it!), but now I’m on her side because I view her as a victim of a lot of truly disgusting bullies. And if the bullies get their way and Teresa is kicked off the show, then there’s no way I’ll watch RHNJ ever again.

        And to be honest, I’m getting pretty close to abandoning all of Bravo’s “reality” shows (unless they’re competitions like Top Chef) because of what they do to turn real life into a storyline. My opinion of Bravo is falling rapidly, and unlike a lot of Housewives, once I’m done, I really am done.

        • T-Rex says:

          I hear what you are saying but if you were one of the MANY victims of the Juicy non-payments(they still owe milllions and I don’t think have paid anyone back yet, many people have reported to have received zero dollars that were owed to them) and you had large amounts of monies owed to you or living in a decrepit building owned by them you can forgive them because instead of her being on TeamMean and being the bully, she is now the target and gets a pass? This isn’t directed to you specifically, it’s kind of directed to everyone that jumped ship this season, like it’s okay to be lying thieves for all these seasons, okay to have been on TeamBully and now it’s not okay because she is the target.

          • Sam says:

            My belief is that Teresa is so clueless, so willing to let her husband do his own thing, and so deficient when it comes to reading legal documents (or really, any documents!) that she does not share responsibility for his business transactions. Now, this isn’t to say that she didn’t benefit from the money he brought in. But we don’t know what he told her regarding the source of their income. (And we do know that she is working hard to try to bring in some honest money, which is more than we can say for her husband right now.)

            • T-Rex says:

              Teresa was indeed on TeamBully since day one, and now this season times have changed, oh and while it may be scripted, or organized the Bravo producers kinew exactly what buttons to push to get the moron to grab the bait. Okay if she is so ignorant of her finances(which I doubt) then why completely LIE about writing her blog! No way she writes it, and why not OWN that. Seriously I do not get the BullyLiarTeresa love!

              • Sam says:

                Yes, this is similar to why I don’t get some people’s passionate support for a certain presidential candidate. But unlike Aviva I’m not one to go on and on about things, so we’re just going to have to agree to disagree here (with no hard feelings, I hope!). :-)

      • chismosa says:

        trying to be objective, i can’t really say if Teresa has the most *fans* since she is the only one who really has any ‘products’ out there for consumers to buy. If we are to see down the line, how many people show up for Caroline’s book signings, Kathy’s dessert things, then i think i could compare. Book signings, as i’ve said before on here, for me are not a barometer of anything. People show up for any celeb-sighting. And “NYT bestseller” is not as illustrious as it was 10-20 years ago ( i worked many years in publishing). That goes for any of the famous people who claim to be NYT bestellers. Speaking of which I hope Andy’s book did not make it, despite all his efforts (though as i said, not illustrious anymore!)

        We know Teresa does not win Bravo WWH polls, but many here blame that on the spelling of her name; but i think by this late season most fans/viewers know she spells it without an H. Especially since she’s on gossip mag covers weekly with her name splashed in bold letters! ha ha
        I know also that the polls on WWH have many conspiracy theories tied to them, but if you were to look at them objectively, you would think Teresa does not have fans. Just saying

        Just saying this all objectively.

        • VV says:

          Gossip, check Twitter and even some blogs. They still spell her name with an H (pro Tre and against Tre people ) go figure.

          Andy hates the Giudices and some producers too. I don’t think you will find many people to argue that.

          • chismosa says:

            oh yes, i get that a lot of behind-the-scenes people dislike Teresa, that i know is true.

            I wonder how Andy would justify firing someone who is (supposeBLY) popular with viewers– if someone’s a cash cow then he’d want to keep them, no? I know Andy has his favorites and stuff

            • VV says:

              Well, Teresa became more popular after they started ganging up on her. Bravo was not counting on the backlash. Their plan backfired. So now they are in a quagmire.

            • VV says:

              This is gonna post twice because I didn’t type my email correctly.

              Well, Teresa became more popular after they started ganging up on her. Bravo was not counting on the backlash. Their plan backfired. So now they (Bravo & Andy) are in a quagmire.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                Bravo is run like Andy’s private vanity project. He just might be unprofessional enough to fire Teresa and her husband, but my bet would be that any one that tells him ,”its me or her” will be on the way out the back door. JMHO.

        • melthehound says:

          Sorry but I don’t believe you’re being objective at all. Pretty well known fact that Teresa is a SURE BET to lose any dandyAndy Bravo WWHL poll regardless of how people spell her name. Andy has been having a gorgasm since Poison Joe did a lap dance for him on wwhl. Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that Manzorita is THAT well loved to beat out Teresa in a legitimate poll? Have you Seen the pre-release comments for Manzo’s book? I’d be surprised if it ever sees the light of day.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Teresa’s products would not sell, much less make it to the NYTimes Best Seller list unless she had a hugh fan base!

          • disgrazia4 says:

            MTH, Now when I type in strega over at Amazon.com, I get Carol’s book and a couple Italian books on witches! Cracks me up!! LOLOL 【ツ】

        • I guess we can measure it in different ways. I know I voted for Teresa before and got some weird error code and I spelled her name correctly. I think someone else (who I don’t think a is a Teresa fan had the same thing happen.

          While you are probably right, having best seller or getting a book published doesn’t have the same prestige it once did, for whatever reason there are still hundreds (from creditable eye witness accounts) of Teresa supporters lined up to see her at book signings or events just because of HER. Even people who don’t like Teresa have said she has a nice cookbook but I have never heard from anyone who is thinking of buying Caroline’s book..or BLK. There are a few people who said they might try Kathy’s desserts- they do look good and desserts aren’t really a hard sell but I have yet to see it happen.

          I haven’t heard about that sort of thing on any BLK tour or the like. It also seems like most blogs or message boards and on twitter Teresa gets more support than the others. Sometimes when I watch the show I will search for tweets to them just to read what the twitter universe is saying and mostly it’s not that good.

          We know that on these shows that no one is irreplaceable and there is only so much longevity for people on reality TV ( I can’t wait for the entire Jersey shore cast to
          disappear)

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Since when is it not prestigious to have a book on the bestseller list? Seriously. I personally do feel that it’s not impressive.

    • melthehound says:

      Honestly, I haven’t believed anything these rags print since I was 13 and saw the national enquirer in the grocery store line reporting that some Kansas farmer had been abducted by aliens and came back with a mind altering probe up his butt.

      • Exit4 says:

        Next you’re going to tell me Elvis is dead.

      • Sam says:

        Someone I knew in college went to work for the Enquirer after graduation and later told me how much fun the staff had making those stories up. I couldn’t believe she considered herself a journalist.

      • I always loved the National Enquirer when they would put the photo of the alien baby on the cover. Must read rag….”inquiring minds want to know.” I always try to go on the check out line with the longest line at the grocery store, just so there’s time to scan the front pages of these mags.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        My 90-year-old great uncle used to have a subscription, Christmas gift from his grandkids.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        mth, are you sure that wasn’t 50 shades of grey?

      • chismosa says:

        National Enquirer has recently been the first to really break celeb/media news. First on John Edwards’ baby, and LOTS of other stuff. I’m sorry i can’t recall exactly the others– but i would pick it up occasionally and then see the news weeks later on real magazines/ in the media.
        They’ve changed a lot since those days, IMO.

      • T-Rex says:

        I don’t believe 90 percent of stuff written in any Entertainment magazine including People. Just as we have seen with the Angelo situation, anyone can give a “story” to a blog or to the press, doesn’t mean that story is true. Folks lie when giving interviews all the time. Most of the other rag mags, just make stuff up, and some is just blatant lies actually given to the mags by certain folks, including famous folks, in exchange for money. I know that Lindsay Lohan and her whole family do this, my friend that is the producer told me that one of the reasons Britney Spears family got her away from one of her managers when she went crazy is they were also doing this too to keep their names in the paper and in the press.

    • disgrazia4 says:

      Oh Exit4 I hope you get this question. Is this the US Weekly Oct issue with Melissa on the cover?

    • chismosa says:

      thanks for all that– i wonder if this is a cover article? I don’t remember the last time ANY housewives made an US cover– they usually are InTouch or Life&Style stuff. Very juicy!!!

      I didn’t know Danielle is trying to get back on?? I am behind on the blogs though… i would welcome that.

      • T-Rex says:

        Rumors have been swirling for a while that she wants back on, especially if Teresa is let go. She has those dollar signs firmly planted in her eyes, she knows what the girls are now making and wants that paycheck

        • chismosa says:

          oh i want Danielle for the DRAMA. I was so pro-Danielle that season they were all against her, especially stupid Dina. I’d take Danielle over Dina any day.
          Thanks for filling me in!

  37. cusi77 says:

    Detox, dear! Sending prayers and good thoughts your way, sweetie! Xoxo!

  38. WindyCityWondering says:

    Did anyone watch the Dance Moms Reunion last night? I swear it looks like that Kathy lady from Candy Apples got a beautifully done face lift.

  39. Exit4 says:

    Just to add to the above, Melissa is on the cover of US. Looking sufficiently sad and introspective. The US interview is directly with her. All quotes are hers, with the exception of the sidebars. Those are from the show. Incidentally US blames teresa and joe for the christening fight. She is also on the sidebar cover of life and style, telling the same story. I read that in the store and life and style was a combo of Melissa quotes and quotes from the show.

    I bring this up so we can determine if Melissa cleared these articles with Jac? Did she get paid? Does she have a “deal” with these magazines? I mean, we need to know these things….otherwise she isnt being a true friend or honest with herself and others. LOL.

    Lastly, way up in the blog I wrote about all these “coincidences” that led to strippergate. My opinion? Everyone (and I mean everyone) had some idea the fit was going to hit the shan. But at the same time, everyone was in the dark just enough, that they couldn’t define what it was. Kind of like that movie The Departed, where everyone was working against each other, nobody trusted anyone and really, in the end most of them ended up dead.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The PFS is the chosen casino vehicle for RHNJ – all of them expect drama and some know who the target will be ahead of time.

    • cusi77 says:

      “Kind of like that movie The Departed, where everyone was working against each other, nobody trusted anyone and really, in the end most of them ended up dead.”

      Good analogy Exit4! I do think that everyone had an idea that something was coming and in some degree, willing participants. All of them!

    • VV says:

      If quotes are her even better. We already know she can lie and lie with a straight face.

    • melthehound says:

      Did she clear it with Jac….

      AHHHAHAHAHHAAAA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA! :lol:

  40. Hoy Mateys…. A LULU / Sonja Flashback Holiday…. I wonder is Zack will play along …Lulu certainly knows her part well….

    http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2011/09/19/7839436-how-to-properly-observe-international-talk-like-a-pirate-day?lite

  41. WindyCityWondering says:

    I can pull up my local hair salon complete with directions to and customer reviews. I can not pull up Cafface Beauty Bar – a facebook and a twitter account but no website (coming soon was all it said). Additionally, I could not find any grand opening announcement in the local papers or NJ.com – but the boys’ restaurant is newsworthy and cover! Poor Lauren is gonna be left in Franklin Lakes when Caro moves to Hoboken to support her golden boys and their restaurant.

    • VV says:

      Windy you spelled it wrong. It’s CACAface!

    • chismosa says:

      the boys are opening a restaurant? God these kids just toss ideas into a jar and pick whatever comes out to do… until like Lauren at Chateau– the first day comes and they just decide it’s not for them. Do these boys know how HARD it is to run a restaurant? Did they not learn anything from their father?

      My father is 75 and still works 6 days a week in retail running his own business- seeing that from a young age taught me to NEVER want my own business! But everyday i’m so proud to have a father like that. Also, he has no secret apartment over the shop either, like Albert and Dina’s husband.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        I have read that some people use restaurants for money laundering or tax right offs. I think the older Manzo’s are shady. That would be Caroline and Albert, whose father was mobbed up. IMO.

  42. TT in OC says:

    Happy birthday, Amber. Enjoy your special day!!

    I don’t know if Tre has a hand in setting Melissa up. My question is why she was always “baited” or involved in the set up? Did she not get herself in trouble pulling Danielle’s hair in the event a couple years ago? “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” Has she not learn anything yet? Or she is not that innocent as she claims? I really don’t know!!

    By the way, I was watching the re-run of NY and NJ yesterday. I found that NY is so much more engaging while I was distracted easily from watching NJ. I did not watch through the whole NJ episode and turned it off about less than 30 minutes. Bravo has to either re-cast like NY or just fold NJ, JMO.

    • chismosa says:

      Yeah you’d think Teresa would have gotten the memo by now. I agree with you.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Wacky Jacky’s daughter Ashley pulled Danielle’s hair but Danielle did push Teresa’s buttons by talking about her home being foreclosed upon. Teresa is learning not to let her reactions get the best of her – that is why it is so hard to take her down.

      • ATLnNYC09 says:

        Tre’s behavior is much better now than in past seasons, IMO. Which is one of the reasons why the other cast come off so bad. They are trying to aggravate her but havnt gotten her to the point of getting physical.

    • PJ says:

      This was not a set up of Melissa.

  43. chismosa says:

    Hello everyone, i haven’t been on for a few days, hope everyone is great– thank you SO much to everyone running the site and writing the fantastic blogs each and every day.
    Have to read up everything

    Detox, saw some things going on with you, hope you are doing well.

    i wonder if anyone here is getting into Miami or not? Ok, have to catch up!

  44. djprincessc says:

    So I love how Joe Gorga calls Kim D. a cunt, and tries to punch her and Bravo mentions nothing about it. But again Joe Guidice is a piece of shit? And how is it that Teresa is sooooo stupid yet she comes up with this brilliant idea of exploiting Melissa? I don’t think Teresa was involved at all and that this was a final attempt to bring her down for sure this time, and again it back fired. I do wish though that she would’ve told Melissa about it when she found out, but probably didn’t because as she said, didn’t wanna get involved since things were going well with them. I do have to agree with everyone on the blog who said that the ladies seemed very off and kinda down when walking into the fashion show, like they knew something was up, Teresa was the only one acting her normal self. AND I also noticed that Melissa was NOT excited when she saw Joe Guidices brother (what was that about?) and how did Jaq and Lauren get the news so fast? They say in the clips friends were texting them, but how did the friends know what happened so quickly?? Were the friends there and saw?? But Jaq and Lauren didn’t?? And why didn’t they tell Melissa? None of this makes sense. I am excited for the reunion yet dreading it bc I know they are all going to gang up on Teresa and Andy is going to reem her while giving the rest HUGE passes. I wouldn’t mind him being hard on her if he was just as hard with everyone else. Bravo should hire someone unbiased for the reunions.

    • PJ says:

      I think this was a set up of Teresa to get her into a position where the other “ladies” would not film with her. This is the tactic they used on Danielle and this tactic has also been used on other franchises. I guess we are going to have to stand back and see what sticks and who it sticks to.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        I have said before that I would like a women to host the reunion. The way it is right now, it is like a year end, group, job review. With Andy, as the boss that no one in their right mind would respect, but they all have to listen too. It can be really painful to watch because he general calls people on the carpet for things that bother him personally under the guise of a viewer question. Craven much! He needs to learn when to back off, if he wants to be an effective manipulator, when his stable, of unstable women are concerned. JMHO.

  45. Exit4 says:

    So, where are we now? If I miss anything or anyone, add it please! :)

    Penny: Former teacher, business owner and 2011 Beauty Director of PFS. Owner of (now closed) Chateau Allure Salon where Kim D. and Teresa (and PFS models) got ready for the show. Old “friend” of Melissa from her Lookers days, a gentlemans club owned by Penny’s family. Married to Johnny the Greek.

    Johnny the Greek: Family Business owner (besides Chateau Allure) and prolific Tweeter. Introduces Kim and Teresa to Angelo.

    Angelo: Long ago day manager at Lookers, former employer of MeGo. PR Director at Penny’s salon. PFS guest, table crasher and “exposer” of MeGo. Poor mic wearing skills.

    Kim D: Friend of Penny and Johnny. Chooses Penny as her Fashion Show Beauty Director. Frienemy of HW’s. Sister in law of Kim G. Pot stirring weave wearer and possible fan of nose candy.

    Kim G.: Pot Stirrer, Kim D. SIL and hater of (most) HW’s. “Friend” of Celebrity Magnet Tom Murro. Watches the fun from her condo across from the PFS. Declines Bravos invite to make out with Michael Lohan (ok, that’s not true-she declined b/c she smelled a set up). Has a boatload of money.

    Tom Murro: Celebrity Magnet, Fox contributor and frequent writer about HWs. Source of scandalous picture of Juicy and another woman taken while PFS was going on. Shares pic with Kim G. who shares it with Jac, who after warning Teresa, Tweets it to millions.

    Pete Giudice: Random PFS guest, doppelgänger of Brother Juicy and coconspirator in licensegate. Stranger to Caroline(“who is that man?”) bankruptcy prone husband of Shelia and onetime “friend” of Penny and Johnny. Currently claiming not to know them.

    Shelia Giudice: Teresa SIL and HW wildcard. Former member of Team Mego, now Team T.

    Will Love: Former associate of Illuminatiom PR, Melissa and Teresa’s former reps. PFS guest who was the first to call “editing” with Angelo. Melissa hater and No Hate poser with Teresa.

    “Mystery Contacts”: Random people who call and text Housewives before, during and after events to tell them what’s happening and what people are saying. Their names and the content of their information must remain secret at all times. But they exist, really.

    Sirens Media Production CO: (includes Cat Rodriguez and Caroline Self). Pals with everyone but Teresa, sorry souls who have to film this crazy. but Teresa, sorry souls who have to film this crazy.

    Bravo: Viewer of each and every second of film who approves each and every scene that airs. Likes drama.

  46. ATLnNYC09 says:

    So Melissa gets a magazine cover over the strip show episode? And people have the nerve to say she has nothing to gain over this incident? On top of that, shes a hypocrite. She blamed Teresa for being in the tabloids and turns around and does the same thing. She was definitely in on the set up.

  47. ATLnNYC09 says:

    If Bravo wanted to fire Teresa, why didnt they do it years ago? Why the need to take her down? Ive seen other housewives fired for much less. They could have cut her salary and forced her to quit? They could have fired her after she shoved Andy 3 years ago. This doesnt make alot of sense to me.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      for ratings – advertising dollars

      • ATLnNYC09 says:

        They cant have it both ways. Teresa cant be there and be gone also. If they want her gone, they should just do it. If they want her on cast, they need to get rid of some of the others.

        • Powell says:

          ITA. Bravo needs to make a decision and not keep this nonsense up next season. Frankly I want a whole new cast.

          • MamaZ says:

            I don’t think it was so much that Bravo wanted to fire Teresa as they thought the viewers wanted to see Teresa get taken down. There was a pretty strong anti Teresa wave after the bancruptcy/fraud/DUI/fake license charges.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              Andy never should have put his hands on Teresa in the first place. She was right to let him know who was in charge of that casino. Danielle always had a nasty habit of starting the fire and then running from the heat. That would mean that Danielle and Andy have something in common. I always thought the reason that she had to go was her need to sue anyone that looked at her silly. Why would Bravo risk bringing her back. She is too problematic. IMO.

  48. Exit4 says:

    Ok. Last one then going to get drunk. Kidding (not really).

    Melissa: Lookers bartender with a past. Married to Teresa’s brother Joe, hater of Teresa. Self proclaimed singer, dancer, artist. Gets exposed during the PFS. Has cute kids.

    Joe Gorga: Surgically removes himself from his wifes butt for one night so she can attend the PFS. Hangs next door instead, fully miked just in case. Mad at Kim D., Teresa, his parents and Juicy. Very pleased with his penis.

    Caroline: Owner of advice of the day toilet paper, mother to 3 stand out kids who despite being children of privilege….well they don’t much. Hater of Teresa, spends most of fashion show on her phone. Suspicious of Pete, but doesn’t notice Angelo. Feuds with siblings. Confused by GPS. Clearly prepared her angry lines and perfected her mad face in time for PFS.

    Lauren: Lapband owner and bodyguard of mother. Sells makeup, baked goods and motor oil from her store Cacaface. Makes flash cards in her spare time. Very concerned with others intelligence. Happens to be attending her first PFS.

    Jacquline: Fan of drama, Tweeting and parental humiliation. Has a network of top secret sources who share info with her, but she doesn’t share with anyone else. Has very high standards for friends. Skips reunions to get drunk with Kim G and source Tom Murro. Loves Botox, wine, Baileys and Xanax.

    Chris Laurita: Oh come on, he’s there lurking behind a potted plant or something.

    Juicy: Husband of questionable morals, conveniently sends brother Pete (maybe thinking no one would notice) to PFS so he can wine and dine “some woman” at TGI Fridays. Top secret spy forwards pic of their “date” to other minor players in this fiasco. Ends up on Radar.

    Kathy: Shes there too. She makes desserts. Husband Rich claims she smells like fish. Lynn Fam blog discusses “Vagina Smells”. Surely a first. :)

    Teresa: Ghost writer employer, recipe thief, fashion show drama instigator 3 years running. Manages to be the dumbest person alive and an evil genius all at once. Supposed Strippergate mastermind. Sucks at Flashcards.

    Milania: 6 year old daughter of Teresa. Evil genius and quite possibly the one pulling the strings. LOL couldn’t resist.

    Somehow all these people managed to create this insane plot line as well as destroy what was left of a family and friendships. Maybe we can get a “where are they now” in 5 years. I wonder if it will all be worth it?

    • Powell says:

      Good list Exit4. You deserve a drink after compiling this. Cheers!

    • AZGirl says:

      Milania is the evil genius behind it all. Ha! I really think that could be the case.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Nice work, Exit4!

    • Exit4 you have the cast of characters defined to perfection. I volunteer you as the new executive producer of RHONJ. Feel free to write their next script for the new season, fire & hire at will to improve the show!

      • MamaZ says:

        Powell – Where are they in 5 years.
        Lauren – Caca face failed. Married to Vito, bitter,works part time at Vito’s parents store. Her mother is her best(only)friend.

        Chris and Albie – Working and living at The Brownstone. Still single and still playing the ham game. Chris is happy but Albie has regrets. So many regrets.

        Albert – Back working at The Brownstone. It was either come out of retirement or get a divorce.

        Caroline- Interfering in Laurens marriage and telling her she isn’t raising her children right.

        Chris and Jaq – I hope i am wrong about this one -Divorced,raising a special needs child can be tough on a marriage even more so combined with financial problems and alcohol abuse.

        Juicy – In jail. And not for the old charges. Something new. This guy can’t do anything legally.

        Teresa – Trying her best to earn a living as a used-to-be-reality-star. And living with her parents cause the gigs don’t pay what they used to.

        Kathy – Working in a hair salon and telling all her customers that she chose not to continue selling her desserts because it took too much time away from her family.

        Richie – Whatever the heck he does now.

        Joey Gorga – Possibly in jail cause he’s as crooked as his BIL.

        Melissa Gorga – Divorced, when the $ ran out so did she because she’s a star baby. Plays the occasional gig around town and dines out on her past singing career which she is trying to use to find another man with money.

        • Powell says:

          These are hilarious MamaZ! Albie & Chris living upstairs in the Brownstone and working there & Albert out of retirement back at the Brownstone or divorce Caroline are my fave. ;-)

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I’m glad the Ham Game is alive and well 5 years from now.

        • MamaZ don’t forget Greggy….still rooming with Albie & Chris at the Brownstone, plus “manager” of what’s left of Melissa’s career.

    • Rebecca says:

      Funniest post EVER! “Sucks at Flashcards”

  49. Winston says:

    As others have said, Teresa is the show. She put them on the map with the table flip. I stopped watching during the time it became all about the Danielle gang up and I definitely won’t watch if Tre isn’t on the show anymore. If the other ladies don’t want to film with her then it is time for them to go. There are a lot more interesting women they can replace them with. I heard Dina is available.
    They actually should give Tre her own show and keep the other ladies on RHNJ and watch how fast the ratings tank.

    • Powell says:

      If they don’t film w/T then they’re dumber than I think they are. NY is the test case show of what not to do. Jill told some of her cast mates not to film w/B and she was fired & B got her own show, now 2.

      • MamaZ says:

        RHONJ without Teresa would tank faster than Laurens first salon. Love her or hate she is the center of the show.

  50. PJ says:

    OK so we should believe that Angelo is shady and nothing he says about Melissa is true. HOWEVER we should believe that he accidently forgot he was wearing a mic and revealed Teresa is the mastermind of a plot against angel Melissa. So he can only be believed if he is edited to say something against Teresa. Some logic in that, just don’t know what the logic is. We should always believe Melissa even though we have seen her lying on camera. We should believe Jac is the voice of reason; and we should hate anyone Caroline doesn’t like. We should pretend that Lauren is smart and qualified to ask people questions on flash cards, even though Lauren may not know what a continent is or which one she is on. We also have to believe that Saint Kathy was only trying to help when she confronted Teresa in the hot tub in Caroline’s hearing. Of course we should also believe that Saint Kathy was so grievously injured by Teresa touching her face that she needs to file suit against Teresa. We should also believe that Teresa is really dumb but smart enough to pull off a major set up of angel Melissa. Have I got it all, am I ready for the reunion now?

  51. AZGirl says:

    Faux Milania tweeted: Kim G. is one of Mitt Romney’s other wives. Goes to show is taste in humans. Just saying. he,he,he,,, Love IT!

  52. Powell says:

    Just saw Ken & Giggy on TMZ. Giggy was having a tea party at Villa Blanca w/Chihuahuas for the next Chihuahuas in Beverly Hills movie.

  53. AZGirl says:

    I HAVE GOT IT!!! IT SO SIMPLE!!! Milania is behind the Mitt Romney 47% tape :)

  54. Hi Ladies…you too Mel….(scratching his ears).

    Hope everyone is well. Detox I’m glad you were able to see the doctor.
    I hope those lungs continue to open up and fill with fresh air. It’s hard
    being a caregiver, and comes with great love. People will remind you
    to care for yourself but in reality it’s hard to transfer care from your
    loved one to your own needs. Next time a medical professional scolds
    you, remind them you’re minding your mother.They’ll understand I’m glad she’s off the
    walker. That’s a huge step. She might tire herself so don’t put it
    away just yet.

    I’m all geared up for Survivor and my favorite show ever. BIG BROTHER.
    I’m hoping Ian can pull it off and win. Dingo’s had a cute quote on
    the site…Ian: “You know that sign at the end of a show that no animals were harmed making this production? They can’t do that – the fish died”

    Although I don’t have Bravo anymore …I see things!! I noticed on one of the
    video clips Aviva’s dad hounding Romana about apologizing, he wouldn’t give
    up, he kept saying, no Romana, no Romana, YOU apologize, and THAT’S
    exactly how Aviva is. She has the same delivery, no listening or compromising
    it’s what she wants and that’s it.
    And she’s NOT a Diva at all, she’s a spoiled brat. She’ll scream and insult till
    someone/something breaks so she’ll get her own way. Also I don’t like the
    term..I own my behavior. Apologizing comes with being contrite, amending
    the situation, seeing the error, Then you grow.

    I’ve been stocking up on my fav PBS shows. I’m collecting Inspector Lewis
    (from the Inspector Morse series) Midsomer Mysteries, Joan Hickson and
    David Suchet’s Agatha Christie stories. And I am in love with Doc Martin.
    It took a while to get used to him but now I can’t stop. If you ever want to see beautiful
    scenery watch it. It’s filmed in Port Isaac, on the Cornish Coast. Oh you’ll fall in love.
    I think it would be a great gift for someone who’s housebound or a little older who
    uses TV as their only entertainment. …No I do not recv any compensation for this
    plug.

    Amber…Real HW. I wonderful day to you, Happy Birthday. I love reading your
    posts.

    Nice Night to All!!

    • Eastbayca says:

      Agree with you on Aviva.
      Just re-watched RHONY…Heather is giving her good advice, Aviva nods her head and continues with her rant against Ramonja.
      You could also tell she was trying to get Heather to agree with her that Ramona is “bad”.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Thank you for the Survivor reminder…just set the DVR!!!

    • melthehound says:

      In the preview I saw, Chicklet George gets escorted out of that event after he grabbed Ramona. I think that was an Anti-Abuse event. Could be wrong about that.

    • Countess Lillybee says:

      I agree with you about Doc Martin. There is something endearing about that show.

    • Just Wondering in Jersey says:

      Doc Martin is the best!!!!!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Thanks Butters! I love posting just to get these snarky gossiping devils out of my head! LOL

  55. WindyCityWondering says:

    Love Melissa’s cover! Congratulations she finally did it! She is striking her best JLo pose in one of her RHNJ TalkingHead outfits. But what’s with Teresa’s picture and name on Melissa’s cover? And Melissa says Teresa destroyed her family! So which family would that be? The one that is her husband’s or the one with her skanky sisters/loser husbands??

  56. Powell says:

    Tim Gunn is going to be in the next Disney film “Sofia the first”. He’ll be the voice of an overorganized royal steward.

  57. Contessa says:

    One more thought about the reunion – Lauren, Cacaface, can’t do flash cards for Tre, as Lauren stated she doesn’t read and probably cannot get past a 4 letter word. I have no doubt Don caro reads the blogs to Lauren.

    With regard to cacaface, one of the first things one does when opening a business is get a website so people can order your products and look you up…how dumb is it to ask people to order through facebook? She is losing an open opportunity while the show is on – can we say stupid and lazy? She is definitely her mother’s child, another who missed the boat.

    With regard to the restaurant, the Manzo’s are fronting for someone who is developing a chain as there is another restaurant in NY. They are using their name and taking their money…very simple concept, as the Manzo baby boys will not be making any huge decisions. It will be like buying into any franchise.

  58. Powell says:

    Comedian Lisa Lampinelli had gastric sleeve surgery to losing 85% of her stomach. I’ve never heard of it called that but she is looking pretty good.

  59. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Aviva is asking for advice for the reunion taping tomorrow-I gave a few tips
    1. Stay home
    2. Dont be a flip flopper
    3. Dont say banner or red carpet….or small plane
    4. Dont say white trash or party (my sis added that one)
    5. Dont say ‘Quite frankly”.

    Luanne tweeted that she was “Gearing up for the reunion tomorrow…I told her not to forget her group of Italians!!!

  60. Cartwheels says:

    Congratulations to NoMore Drama.

    I have been perusing other blogs and in two of them I have seen your blog of today posted or linked. TWOP is one of them anb the Bravo boards is another.

    I got so excited when I looked at them, kinda of proud too :)

    You are quickly becoming famous :)

  61. Cartwheels says:

    About Lauren quizzing Teresa with flashcards, LOL :D :D

    If I was Teresa I would had quizzed Lauren with only one card:

    “Could you please again explain what FEBUS means”

    PLOP, the lap band would had popped, LOL

  62. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I LOVE the first episode of Survivor…that Probst is such a badass-always shows up to the players in some sort of cool way.

  63. zoey1234 says:

    Wow, Survivor just came on! I wasn’t expecting that. Then Big Brother finale! Go Ian!

  64. Powell says:

    Fire in 45 minutes.

  65. Powell says:

    Dang he’s hurt already!

  66. Powell says:

    Was Lisa Welchel pulling a “Blair” and not rowing?

    • zoey1234 says:

      I didn’t notice that, but I did notice she didn’t pull her hair back. She was constantly moving it from her face. She better get serious!

  67. zoey1234 says:

    Haha, she can fight any boy in the trailer park!

  68. What’s everyone watching tonight? Survivor and BB for me.

  69. zoey1234 says:

    I think I’m going to like the alliance of the Malcolm guy and the sex therapist lady. They seem sincere.

  70. MamaZ says:

    Has anyone heard from Boobah lately?

  71. BB says:

    Dang! Mike is an accident waiting to happen.

  72. zoey1234 says:

    I hate to sound like a prude, I’m really not, but it bugs me to see the women that do the challenges in skimpy bottoms. Everything is all jiggling and falling out! Put on some shorts! Lol.

    • BB says:

      Well, at least we won’t see Lisa’s butt cheeks. She won’t let that happen on purpose! Lol.

      • zoey1234 says:

        Haha, you’re right. She’ll probably get less bug bites too, but it might get awfully hot. She seems sincere. How did that young girl write her off so fast already?

  73. Get rid of RUSSELL………make him show the idol. Haven’t they watched this show?

  74. MamaZ says:

    I just saw a recipe for Pumpkin French Toast on Pinterest. I know what I am making for breakfast this weekend!

  75. zoey1234 says:

    Who’s it going to be??? Dan or Ian? I think they both sorta deserve to win.

    • Sus says:

      Best Big Brother season ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
      I’m so happy Ian won

    • BB says:

      I wanted to answer your question, but I didn’t want to jinx it. I was waffling a little until I heard the questions and speeches, then I was definitely pulling for Ian.

      • BB says:

        Frank won America’s favorite?

        • zoey1234 says:

          Yeah, he won the 25,000. Overall I think it worked out pretty well. Ian won, Dan did work hard and got some money. A lot of people liked Frank- I liked him on and off. Didn’t like when he yelled at Ian, just all my opinion.

      • zoey1234 says:

        I know what you mean! Sometimes you can almost guess who’ll win, but this one I thought it would be more divided. Glad it wasn’t! I definitely admire Dan and would’ve chosen him against any of the others!

  76. zoey1234 says:

    It seems like a whole lot of people online really do not like Danielle. Many that watch the feeds. I didn’t dislike her that much, but you have to say she’s really loyal. Or I guess…..really dumb. She voted for Dan! Even when she found out he had a deal with Ian.

  77. MamaZ says:

    Goodnight everyone.
    Thanks for all you do NMD, BB, mardrag and LC. And thanks to everyone who writes the recaps.

  78. VV says:

    On Twitter:
    “Not even a penny..RT @josalynnn:
    @melissagorga Did you get paid for that cover?”

    Isn’t that what Teresa claims that doesn’t get paid, but Melissa and the others don’t believer her. Now is Melissa claiming she didn’t get paid. Are the hyenas going to believe her?

    • Orson says:

      T says she only gets paid for the covers and she doesn’t give them interviews. In the same breath she’ll add that they do ask her questions and she answers them, but it’s not an interview.

      • Not exactly what she said. She said she has never been paid for an interview but that she has been paid for her pictures but not always, some pictures she did for free or some were part of a deal e.g. she might have got paid for one photo session but the pictures take might could be used on more than one cover.

        She said that she doesn’t always give them an exclusive interview but might answer a questionnaire. She probably sees an interview as a formal sit down, where she is spilling her guts instead of a few questions.

        • Orson says:

          I agree with you in that she considers an interview as a formal, sit down thing and just answering questions as, well, just answering questions.

  79. Winston says:

    Yay Survivor has returned! I’m hoping Lisa Welchel will go far but it doesn’t look good. So sad she lost all her money after all those years on Facts of Life :(

  80. Winston says:

    Everyone is probably snoozing away but I just read two very interesting articles about the BH Housewives.
    Can’t believe Adrienne would stoop to such levels to gain custody of her kids and it says Paul did not even know about the hearing. It also says the couple’s chef gave a declaration that he witnessed Paul kick the family dog. So now Adrienne is using Bernie to do her dirty work in her divorce. She sure is an ugly woman.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/19/adrienne-maloof-paul-nassif-temporary-custody-choking-kids-violence/

    I also read a comical article about Kelsey Grammer bolting from an interview with Piers Morgan because a picture of Camille was shown. Kelsey can make all the disparaging remarks he wants about Camille but actions speak louder than words and his behavior is pretty damaging.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/19/kelsey-grammer-piers-morgan-interview-camille-grammer-photo/

  81. Countess Lillybee says:

    Re Top Chef, best episode of the season and I was happy with the results.

  82. Eastbayca says:

    RHONY reunion is today at The American Museum of Finance on Wall Street.

    Andy Cohen ‏@BravoAndy
    I am sleepwalking to the #RHONY Reunion taping. Think the ladies will wake me up?

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