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We poked a little fun at Caroline last night.  Here’s what she thinks of us

Thank you Boston.  Nothing brings out your sarcasm more than the Manzos!


Real Housewives of New Jersey – Hot Tub of Sour Grapes

by BB

I can’t.  I just can’t.  I just can’t believe this whole season of the Real Housewives of New Jersey has been all about a couple of sentences Teresa Guidice wrote in her cookbook.  Or things that were printed in some rag mag that she supposedly said about her friends and family.  The guys get it.  It’s all about business, you apologize, you get over it, and you go on.  What is so wrong about Teresa making a deal to do covers on a magazine?  Without going into who said what word by word, this is my take on this episode:

The guys are quick to make up

Caroline.  Why oh why couldn’t she stay out of the family problems of the Guidices, Wakiles, and the Gorgas in the first place?  She kept saying she didn’t want to get into their business, but she kept doing it over and over and over.

Caroline listening – it’s only a matter of time before…

I wonder why she struck up a friendship with the Gorgas and Wakiles in the first place.  She really doesn’t have that much in common with them, especially the Gorgas.  Could it be that her main objective was to try to make the relationships even worse between the Gorga, Wakiles and Guidice families?  No, not Caroline, who is all about family.

The pure hatred Caroline spewed against Teresa was really disproportionate to the reasons she gave for doing it.  If this is really all about a couple of sentences in a cookbook and quotes that were printed in a rag mag, quotes I believe all of them have actually said in public, then it’s no wonder Caroline is estranged from various members of her own family.  Caroline Manzo is a very unhappy woman it has nothing whatsoever to do with Teresa Guidice.  That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.  Even her kids and husband look exhausted from having to listen to her righteous indignation over minor slights.  I’m really over the Manzos and hope they don’t return for another season of RHONJ.  Good luck with your book, Caroline.

Caroline’s frustration boils over

Melissa and Tarzan Boy.  They contradict themselves so much it makes me dizzy.  One minute Teresa and Joe are the enemy and the next minute little Joe is telling Juicy he loves him and saying how he has his sister’s back and family is family.  Which is it people?  I’m assuming the Guidice and Gorga lovefest didn’t last that long because it’s not currently all wine and roses between them.

Kathy and Icky Richie.  This poor couple really comes off as not-too-bright bright puppets with Caroline and the Gorgas holding the strings.  I think when they came onboard, they figured the public tide was against Teresa and Caroline was getting all the love, so they picked team Caroline over genuinely trying to mend fences with Teresa.  Too bad it didn’t work out in their favor.  Kathy’s attempts at working on improving her relationship with Teresa have been weak at best.  I hope she has come to realize what a pawn she has been in Caroline’s game.  She really put her foot in her mouth when she told Teresa that Richie’s slams against Teresa at a lowest point in her life were just jokes.  I guess it’s OK for them to joke about Teresa, but it’s not OK for Teresa to joke about anybody including her mighty highness Caroline Manzo or her precious (adult) kids.

Kathy starts if off for the ladies

Jacqueline and Chris Laurita.  The fact that their son was diagnosed with autism makes me want to cut them some slack.  I think they are probably good people who have gotten caught up in the whole Bravolebrity thing, especially Jacqueline.  Jacqueline kind of reminds me of Jill Zarin a little in that she’s feels her friend Teresa has left her behind.  She’s hurt and doesn’t seem to be able to deal with it in a rational way.  Instead of being happy for her friend, she becomes a jealous monster and ends up looking immature and a little unstable.  I hope Jacqueline and Teresa can be friends again one day, but I don’t see that happening as long as Caroline is there whispering in Jacqueline’s ear.  If they are ever to be friends again, Jacqueline will have to come to grips with the fact that Teresa is not going to share her every thought and feelings about things going on in her life.

Jaqueline plays possum

Teresa and Juicy Joe.  Who knows what the future holds for them?  Will Juicy go away?  If so, how will Teresa handle it?  I agree with Tarzan Boy to a certain extent that sometimes Tre and Juicy don’t own up to their actions.  Juicy seems to think he is above the law and Teresa is super competitive when it comes to her friends and family.  One thing I can say for Teresa Guidice.  She puts her money where her mouth is.  If she says she’s going to do something or accomplish something, by golly, she usually does it.  The woman has moxie.

Teresa has had enough

This is a weird summary, I know.  What do you think of the way this whole episode went down?  What was Kathy’s purpose for starting the conversation with Teresa in the hot tub?  Do you think Caroline put forth a rational argument to Teresa about why she’s so angry with her?  Do you think Albert really cared about what was going on as evidenced by the fact he was asleep at the end of it and didn’t go comfort Caroline when she was crying hysterically afterwards?  What do you make of Jacqueline pretending she was asleep the whole time, only jumping up to make one statement in the middle?  Was she afraid of Caroline?  How about Melissa and Kathy’s participation or nonparticipation?  Were they both afraid of angering Mamma Manzo?

Best line of the night – Melissa:  “I think everybody’s cracking up.”

I’ll be glad when this season is over.  I’m exhausted and I’ve only been at this for two weeks!


Watch What Happens Live

Caroline – Teresa 1 on 1 with Andy

by LittleNewton

Hello everyone. This is my first recap and I am so happy to be a part of this great community. I started reading Lynn’s blog after I saw it on RHONY and read it every day after that. I valued her opinions so much even if I didn’t agree with them. She was the housewives expert and I find myself now always wondering what she would have thought. I hope my recaps make her proud!

So after tonight’s very tumultuous episode of RHONJ, it is the WWHL showdown featuring Caroline and Teresa. WWHL is not back live just yet and this is just a special that was prerecorded separately which does not shock me as Teresa has yet to appear with any housewife on a talk show.  Before I begin, I must disclose that I am not a Caroline fan. This season she acts like she is untouchable and it seems to drive her crazy that Teresa is getting along with anyone. But personal opinions aside, let’s get started.

First up is Caroline. Andy goes right into it asking her what got her involved in the discussion. Caroline brings up #cookbookgate and still can’t accept Teresa’s apology for the cookbook because she doesn’t think it was genuine and was only for viewers. While this may be true, what does she really expect Teresa to do? Teresa can only say “I’m sorry” so many times. The magazine covers are brought up and Caroline is adamant that they all come from Teresa. I don’t understand why Caroline can’t let it go. I don’t think it’s a secret to the viewers that there’s more to this than magazine covers. Obviously a lot of this has to do with Teresa’s relationship with Dina and the bitterness there. Caroline just sounded ridiculous trying to talk about how upset she was over magazine covers. I will give Caroline some credit for being honest. She definitely didn’t say anything that we didn’t know. Caroline did a lot of awkward smiling throughout her interview which Andy even asked her about. She said she has a nervous laugh but I think Caroline enjoys this drama because she feels like she comes out on top. She knows that Teresa isn’t good speaking on the spot and is not clear with what she says. Caroline speaks well and just could not stop smiling at Andy as if to say, “you know what I mean”. Nothing new in this part of the show… moving on.

Next up Andy chats with Teresa about the Napa trip and Teresa says she had fun with her family. Andy brings up the toast and Teresa says it was an oversight that she left Kathy out of it. Teresa thinks that Kathy should have been happy for her that she and Joey were getting along. We knew all this already. The hot tub discussion comes up and Teresa believes Kathy was trying to instigate an argument between her and Caroline. Now to the meat of the issue, Caroline. Teresa doesn’t understand where Caroline’s animosity is coming from and brings up the fact that Caroline shouldn’t be talking about her marriage because she has her own marriage to worry about. Teresa then reassures viewers she isn’t getting divorced (oh Teresa…). Teresa says that Caroline didn’t return her phone calls regarding the cookbook. I don’t think we’ll ever know if calls were made but do we care? Then she says Caroline was upset she wasn’t in the first cookbook so she should be happy that she was in the second cookbook. I say, ENOUGH ABOUT THE COOKBOOK!!!!! That’s so clearly not what this is about.

Teresa talks about the tabloids still claiming she only got paid for the cover she did with Jacqueline even though Joe admitted they got paid on the show. I don’t think that is a secret to viewers that she is getting paid and she should just admit it and own it. She doesn’t need to save face at this point, why not just admit it? Anyway, Teresa says she thinks Caroline thinks she is better than everyone else and Teresa doesn’t care what she says about her. Do you understand, Andy Cohen? Caroline doesn’t matter to Teresa.  Andy brings up that Caroline said she doesn’t like herself in this season and asks how Teresa feels about “season 4 Teresa”. Teresa goes around the question by saying everyone attacked her and it wasn’t right. Teresa didn’t do anything to Caroline, ok Andy Cohen? (Andy didn’t seem to like being addressed in that way).

The show ended asking both ladies if they have any regrets. Caroline says she had rage bottled up inside of her and she exploded. She then starts referring to herself in the third person saying that if she has to be the most hated person ever then so be it because that’s what Caroline says, not the housewife, the person! Caroline Manzo has no apologies. Teresa says the door is always open to mend relationships at the reunion but she didn’t do anything to Caroline so she has nothing to hide and it’s on Caroline. Neither seems very excited to see each other for the reunion although I am very excited for them to see each other.

Now I don’t know what to think of this but Andy must have known what he was doing when he asked this. He asked each of them what tabloid headline would they give for the other. Obviously Teresa played into it by saying, “Caroline, angry… very angry, a lot of animosity against Teresa”. Her headline for herself was that she is happy strong and will never fall down. Now when Andy asked Caroline what her headline would be about Teresa, she didn’t give one. Andy knew that Caroline wouldn’t give one and that Teresa would and in my opinion that was a bit of a set up and played into how gullible Teresa is. Clearly there is some favoritism over at Bravo.

Overall, this “special” didn’t shed light on anything that we didn’t know. Everything Teresa said was already written in her blogs. Caroline did her self-righteous act and if people don’t like her then so be it!! She’s Caroline Manzo and that is what Caroline says. This entire episode was made to capitalize on the drama but it does not address the actual issues. This season is far beyond cookbooks and tabloids but for some reason it will never come up on air and we will be forced to watch them fight over these petty issues. All I can say is that this reunion will be very interesting. It will be the first time all of these women have been together since the end of filming and there is no way it will be tame. I guess we will have to just wait and watch what happens and hope we get some real answers.


New York Fashion Lineup

by MichelleNY

Sonja in the city managed to snag some high society client and of course, like every normal caterer is allowed to do, proceeds to invite the entire cast to her second catering gig. Because, after all, what would a high society party be without some low class drama about petty nonsense to bring some color and depth to an otherwise bland array of “champs”, snotty WASPy types, and dull conversation?

Ramona– Ramona has a uniform of sorts for cocktail parties that she knows works for her and her petite body type. Its the kind of uniform I’d like ti call the Teri John school of classics. It’s almost as if every season she buys the exact same outfit in multiple colors. Perhaps that’s why Ramona seems to be continuously going through a range of overactive emotions–she needs to stand out despite the monotony of continuously wearing the same thing over and over again. The eggplant color of this satin sheath dress is extremely flattering and allows the satin the depth of tone so as to not look overly “done” and frou-frou. She loses points, however, by accessorizing with her cheap dollar store draped necklaces.

A better necklace option to add interest to a simple sheath dress: Statement beaded necklace, $44.90, The Limited,default,pd.html?dwvar_1484010_colorCode=648&start=38&ppid=c38&cgid=necklaces&cid=AFC-LINK-J84DHJLQkR4&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=J84DHJLQkR4

Sonja– We all love to hate one-shoulder dresses, but when it’s done as elegantly as the dress Sonja sports here, the effect is magical. With a strand of softly ruffled flowers strewn across her shoulder, this black lace ensemble is a modern update on the classic LBD. Her hair is sleek, the dress is understatedly elegant, and her shoes are sexy. With her ever-present champagne glass punctuating her wild hand gestures, Sonja looks like the picture-perfect UES hostess she portrays herself to be.

A perfectly flattering black lace LBD: Adrianna Papell Shutter-Pleat Lace Dress, $160, Dillards

Heather– Just when Heather is doing well in the sartorial department, she turns around and throws up her tackiest garb yet. Before we get to the atrociously adolescent lettering that decorates this ensemble, let’s talk about the fit. If I can’t tell where your body begins and ends, that’s not a good thing. This is a cautionary tale to all who have an affinity for wearing all black all the time–contrary to popular thinking, black does NOT always flatter you, especially when you have awkward asymmetrical cuts that make your figure look wider than it actually is. As for that lettering…anytime something has to be “bedazzled” in any sort of way is a major warning sign. Just don’t do it. Not only is it far from fashionable, but it just reeks of a pre-teen desperately trying to be the center of attention. It’s not an age-appropriate adornment for a woman Heather’s age. Don’t even get me started on the “Drop Dead Diva” part of it, it’s a serious wtf? Combined with her loosely styled hair and bright fuchsia lipstick (that, ironically, perfectly matches that bedazzled “statement”), this is a look that comes straight from the gutter.

A better option that Heather could easily rock: Dress with fantasy shoulder, $159, Zara

Aviva– We all know what an incredible body Aviva has, but when your dress vaguely reminds one of a junior high school dance, you walk into a danger zone. Besides for the overt youthfulness inherent in the softly flared hemline, fitted bodice, and sweetheart neckline better suited to a woman half Aviva’s age, I love the open-work crochet detail which gives this black dress some visual interest. Although this dress really isn’t so terrible as dresses go, on Aviva–with her tall supermodel physique–it makes her look like she’s trying too hard to look younger than she actually is. I do like that she kept it simple, though, with minimal embellishments that allow her natural beauty to shine through.

A crochet open-work sweater (perfect for fall!): Alice + Olivia Sweater, $396,

Luann– I’m not usually a fan of Luann’s pseudo masculine tranny getups, and this outfit is no exception. When it looks like someone took a hatchet to your jacket, you know it’s a bad choice. I just don’t quite get it, is this a bad attempt at being edgy (a la her new bestie Heather)? Or perhaps she let her gothically inclined daughter style her. Whatever the case, it makes her put together getup completely unravel. And even though I’m proud of Luann for abstaining from her typical hubcap-style numchuck necklaces, there’s no excuse for making a perfectly upscale outfit look like it’s been through the shredder.

A more structured, flattering, and streamlined (read: not homeless) jacket: Structured crepe jacket, $89.50, Loft

Carole– I’m a bit ambivalent about this look. While on the one hand, the elegant styling with the classic black pumps, slightly flirty yet slightly structured cocktail confection with a perfectly placed one shoulder, and slicked back hair is a beautifully high fashion look, on the other hand, it is those exact same things that bother me about this outfit choice. Her dress, while flattering, highlights her protruding bones and her hair is a bit severe. I guess what truly bothers me is the excess of black on all the housewives (excluding, of course, our ever-individualistic Ramona) and so, when I’m all set to give Carole a gold star as per usual for her perfect sense of style, I’m left feeling mournful–an appropriate response considering the sartorial implications of the color itself–and not exactly loving Carole’s perfectly put-together garb. One thing I do know, I’m dying over Carole’s 6 inch stilettos.

Classic black pumps: Nine West, $99


Big Brother – The Revenge of Frank

by NoMoreDrama

This season couldn’t be scripted any better if the producers tried.  It’s like a game of ping pong between Frank and the rest of the House.  Poor Frank.  He was nominated the first week because he was likeable and on Boogie’s team.  He managed to get into a Solid Six alliance – only to have Boogie’s extra plotting ways lead to a double-cross.  Ian slithered into the alliance, ratted out Boogie – and all of a sudden there was the Quack Pack.  Frank has the dubious distinction of being nominated every single time he’s not HOH.

Ian outwitted Boogie

Ian is an 18 year old super Big Brother fan.  He laid low during the first few weeks after he gave all the women the creeps by shower stalking (hanging out and chatting when they were trying to shower).  Then it seemed like he was happy to be Boogie’s protege.  But somewhere in the middle of the season he started to play.  Not only did Ian (with the help of Dan and Brit) arrange for Boogie’s ouster, but he also won HOH, stayed true to the Quack Pack and nominated Frank and Ashley for eviction.  The only thing he couldn’t do was win the veto – which went to Frank, and Ashley was sent packing.

Fast forward to this episode.  Ian’s HOH is short lived in double eviction week, and by Saturday was a new HOH competition.  It was actually a pretty interesting HOH contest – a labyrinth type game played vertically.  It looked like Frank figured it out quickly and got better each round.  He dropped the others one by one, and ended up with another HOH.  This must be some sort of record.

Shockingly, Frank still doesn’t realize Ian is behind all this.  Shocking because he was warned by Boogie  – and he was nominated by Ian – but Frank still doesn’t get it.  Perhaps he’s blinded by his hatred of Dan – who is nowhere as evil as Frank thinks he is.  Frank’s going to be shocked when he sees the tapes.

So Frank has a well deserved win, with the obvious target for eviction – Dan.  The only question is who will he put up with Dan – Danielle or Joe.  Then comes another twist – Pandora’s box.  Frank falls for it and it gives the houseguests a chance to win an extra veto.  The houseguests have to dig through balls to get quarters – and then play the “claw” game in the arcade room to pick up a golden veto ball.  Whoever designed the games for this episode did a good job.  Ian – who I imagine grew up in an arcade – wins this one.

So at this point the obvious choice for nominations would be Dan and Ian – so Ian would use the veto on himself, and Dan stays on the block.  But it’s Frank.  And unbelievable he doesn’t do that.

I have to make an editorial comment here – as bad as it is that Juicy and Joe run around with their shirts off – Ian – put a shirt on!

So it’s Dan and Danielle in the hot seat – with Ian holding the golden veto ball that he may or may not use on Dan.

This is the point where the people who watch the live feeds have a leg up on the TV viewers.  Veto was played yesterday – and that can always shake up the game.  If you’d like to know what’s going on behind the scenes – Morty’s is always a good source.  Trust me – it’s worth reading.  After a sleepy start – the game is officially on!


Tweets from TheFauxMilaniaG

trust me there are NO thoughts in my dad’s head don’t you even worry #RHONJ

saying things to discredit your reputation? my dad can barely put a sentence together be serious #RHONJ

who cares? you get paid for the shit you promote on twitter RT@JacLaurita Joe finally admitted the truth! They got PAID for the articles.

fyi i peed in that hot tub like 8 times before they all arrived so fight about that, betches #RHONJ

“i look at her i see ugly” that’s how i feel about every single person except me ever #RHONJ


Caroline Speaks Up

As the show aired last night, Caroline gave an interview to Celebuzz.  Stating the obvious – she says what went down in Napa wasn’t fun and wasn’t nice.

“I couldn’t find anything positive about it,” Manzo, who tells Celebuzz that she watched Sunday’s episode at least six times rather than her usual two – once to blog about it and again when it airs to tweet about it.

“The only thing positive about it was I finally said what I needed to say and I’m done. And that was a year ago,” she continues. “And I have not seen or spoken to Teresa since the reunion last year with the exception of the Bravo commercial – I was in the same room with her. My last words to Teresa Giudice were at the reunion last year. And can I tell you, it’s been a wonderful year.”

Funny thing is – she went into tweet silence during the show.  I guess she should have watched it a few more times.


Housewives News

Adrienne Maloof is over Paul and Hawking her Shoe Line

Michelle – want to review them for us?


Happy Birthday Queen Butter Bean


About Veena (NMD)

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423 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey / Watch What Happens Live / Real Housewives of New York Fashion Roundup / Big Brother

  1. VV says:

    Happy Birthday, Queen Butter Bean!

  2. trudie says:

    Happy, happy day Queen Butter Bean! May it be fabulous from beginning to end!

  3. VV says:

    BB, great recap “Kathy and Icky Richie.  This poor couple really comes off as not-too-bright bright puppets with Caroline and the Gorgas holding the strings” That line is so true. They are puppets in the Bitter Clown circus.

    Last night, I posted a Tweet from Dina. I said I didn’t think she and Tre were close friends anymore. I was wrong. Dina posted a statement on her FB page.

    • Birdwoman says:

      Is it good?

      • VV says:

        I can’t copy paste FB from my phone. I can copy/paste other sites but not FB. It’s a short statement. I guess people were going after her for supporting Teresa.

        • Birdwoman says:

          Oh it is on facebook! I looked on her web site and didn’t see anything. I will go there! 🙂 Thanks!

        • plainviewsue says:

          Dina Manzo

          11 hours ago.

          The fighting on HW’s is completely petty & silly, I didn’t even know about any of it because I stayed away. I am allowed to support a friend with her launch, a friend who always supported me. I didn’t bash my family at all, I assured Teresa that the BS wouldn’t hurt our relationship as long as she didn’t “hurt” my sister. A joke in a book is stupid, yes, but not grounds for me to hate a friend of 15 yrs & the mother of my Goddaughter. For those of you who thrive on drama & want to hate me for it, do me a favor & defriend me, Friends like you I don’t need ; ) PEACE

  4. mardrag26 says:

    Good Morning! And Happy Birthday Queen Butter Bean! I hope your day is everything you want it to be!

    Fabulous posts and gossip and Caroline…oh my! Because I seldom watch NJ I love to read the posts, they are better than the real thing. You do good BB! And thanks to Michelle, Little Newton and Boston for the great pics!

    NMD….you continue to be the rock star that you are. So many thanks for all you do!

    I also wanted to say thank you to the people who comment on the Inspirational Page. I am so glad you find comfort and, well, inspiration there!

    Have a great Monday everyone! Blessings and Hugs!!

  5. mardrag26 says:

    P.S. Prayers going out to everyone on the Gulf Coast, Florida and anywhere else the hurricane may hit. Please take care and be safe. My heart and thoughts are with you. May the angels spread their wings over you and protect you.

    • Detox, Zoey, Grandmadebbi and to everyone, please be safe.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Thanks, Blue. We’re o.k. on my end so far.

        • The Diva says:

          We got HAMMERED here in chobee..up all night ..lots of rain..we are flooded bathrooms..thank God I know how to CAMP in a 5 gallon water bucket.. trees down and yard has about 8 inches of standing water..We kept power, but cable flickered along with internet.lots of serious lighting and heavy booming thunder… UNREAL..still raining here and intermittent wind gusts…was not really expecting all this ….have not heard a train in over 6 hrs…tracks must under water somewhere…weird…
          gonna be a gloomy day….UGH

          only watched a tad of HWS.. weather more important..will catch up later…what I did see was BS…it ‘s the same thing every week…I think this series is DONE…and tre lives in denial land…

          ya all have a good one and those waiting for Isaac..BUCKLE UP..the right side of this storm is NASTY..that’s what hit us….
          BE SAFE

          • Powell says:

            Oh goodness Diva! I hope you’re ok. Sorry you’re experiencing the storm. You and Mr. Ford stay safe and sending you prayers.

          • trudie says:

            Stay safe Diva. You and Mr. Ford are in my prayers.

          • 2Stupid says:

            We are waiting on it now. Supposed to hit some time tomorrow (late). I haven’t really been too concerned, just irritated that schools were closed. Now I am wondering if I should maybe take things more seriously. They say it is on the same track as Katrina (but not as strong!) Glad you are ok!

          • Boobah says:

            Thank God you are alright! I have been wondering how you were down there in FL with this storm. Glad your power is still on. Hang in there.

            Geez, Mother Nature can be such a bitch!

        • mardrag26 says:

          Detox…you are in that area?? Please, be safe! Wish I had a hover craft for you all!

  6. ATLnNYC09 says:

    I dont understand what the big deal is about the magazines. Teresa lies on herself. Why does everyone else care? She doesnt really mention the other cast members and if the magazines do, they usually mention something they said in their talking head interviews so whats the big deal.

    In regards to the cookbook, didnt Chris Manzo say something about a stripper car wash in the first season? So Teresa didnt lie on him or twist his words. He said something publicly on a show that anyone was watching heard him say so why is that her fault?

    I hope Caroline doesnt return. She has worn out her welcome.

    • RHOFrance says:

      I don’t understand it either. What would they care ? She’s the one looking phony saying one thing and then the other the month after. Their reactions live me no choice that believe they’re jalouse of Teresa exposure. If they think that her exposure is based on lies, why just not laugh it off on camera ? I would prefer seing them making fun of her stories but being all chocked and what not ? Why ?

    • Powell says:

      ATLnNYC it is just crazy and makes no sense. Caroline is jealous of T and the only thing I can think of is that since C has nothing else going on on the show and she is constantly saying look at me, she’s picking a fight just for camera time. It’s ridiculous. If Andy and Bravo are reading the blogs since Andy said they hear what the fans say, i hope their listening to us saying this is foul not reality tv.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        The feud is about something else entirely. The big guess is the fight in Punta Cana that endangered Caroline’s precious sons. Also Caroline seems to be very jealous of Teresa business success. Last night Caroline really proved how much of a kill joy she can be. No person in their right mind should care about her complete rudeness. She waits until the last night of the trip, to attack and confront Teresa, on a trip that she seemingly invited on by her brother. The name calling was really nasty too. No wonder Gia does not like Caroline or treat her with respect. Caroline came off as being very childish, bawling included. Who starts a bully gang fight and then cries when it is over. A brat? JMHO.

  7. NightLight95 says:

    Melissa and Joe-Finally got their shit right, STFU, the fight between the Clown and Tre has nothing to do with you. Stick by family for once and STFU! How much is the Clown paying you to stick up for her? You were there to mend your relationship with Tre, focus.

    Jax and Chris-focus on your son who needs you and a daughter that you failed miserably.

    Tre- I really hope that you find the strength to move on beyond that sick SOB of a husband and mend your relationship with your family without cameras and the Clowns interference.

    Manzo Mob-FU Clown! Nobody was bullying you or attacking you so tell your lap-band daughter to STFU, your two boys who won’t stop sucking at your teet to STFU as well and your husband to go back to sleep. NOBODY was attacking you. Fight your own battles you poor worthless piece of sh*t! Melissa and Kathy were quiet but you expect them to stand up for YOU? They are not your family. You claim not to be fake, well you are a fake but not very good at it which is why you exploded. And stop calling crying your eyes out a meltdown, go look it up. Even if you cried, you had it coming. Your crappy kids who for the past two seasons cracked jokes at the Guidice’s expense and you can’t take one in a book? Bull. Your whole family was projecting that night. It was 4/1 with Joe and 2 on 1 with you and Tre, who was ganging up on who? You are truly one miserable bitter human being.

    • LizzieLou says:

      I agree. Last night was hard to watch. They fought THE WHOLE EPISODE. It was awful. They all need to go their separate ways and move on.

    • Powell says:

      ITA w/you ladies.

    • mrs peabody says:

      I was really surprised to hear Christopher commenting on what he was going to do to Joe G, makes me think those boys are not the sweet little boys mama thinks they are and I have no doubt they jumped right into that fight in mexico with no encourgagement from anyone.

  8. Did anybody else catch the smug little smile Kathy did when Teresa was getting out of the hot tub? She was totally TRYING to get this fight underway, and she succeeded. She started that “talk” 2 feet from Caroline and the others, then went in to recap it while Teresa was getting a fresh robe. She was pissed she was left out of the toast and got her revenge in her own little passive aggressive way. I watched that scene 3 times to be sure because the first time I was like “wait—-Did she just smile like that?” It was a complete cat eating canary smile. Told me everything I needed to know right there.

    • Am I crazy to think that Kathy, Melissa, Caroline & Jac get together to figure out ways to enrage Teresa or make her look bad before filming? When Caroline was saying “Kathy, look at me” I wondered, is she trying to coach Kathy to stick to the plan? Wouldn’t be the first time that some cast members club together to try to throw shade on another cast member, thereby making them look bad to viewers. Why? Because Teresa is the one with all the successful products, the mag covers, the fans that come out in en mass to her book signings. You just can’t manipulate it….hard as they try, and as hard as Bravo tries too to dethrone Teresa, it just isn’t happening.

      Jealousy jealousy, Caroline, Melissa, Kathy & even Jac are the epitome of it.

      I don’t like Teresa all the time. I hate that the Giudices are really crooks, after all. Just hard to like any one else on this train wreck of a show! At least Teresa never gives up, she got off her butt & is making money to support her family.

      Here’s what I suspect about Teresa claiming to make no money from the tabs. She has to pay Bravo right, and that eats into the profits. She’s already paying Bravo plenty of money from her books, Fabellini, shampoo, etc. So she has someone else submit the stories, someone she can trust like her mom maybe? Who knows, but that way they get the dough without Bravo’s sticky fingers getting involved.

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        I got the impression that Caroline wanted Kathy to look at her to tell her to stop. She told her very clearly – but politely – after it all got so heated, that she did not want or need for her to fight her battles. Kathy regretted it, too late.

        My sense was that Kathy was upset w/Teresa, but rather than talking about her own beef, she started stirring the Teresa/Caroline pot. Big mistake – should not have gone there.

      • plainviewsue says:

        Blue Sky, you are not crazy at all. Just like some of the BH housewives got together before the reunion to slay Lisa, I do believe that the women were out to destroy Teresa. Not because of a stupid saying in a cookbook. But they want to destroy her reputation so she will be unsuccessful. I wish that Teresa could be more articulate, and they all take such advantage of that. Teresa said in the book that she didn’t want her daughters to work in the business Chris was talking about in season one. Does caroline want Lauren to be a stripper? Does Melissa want Antonia? So on.

        Kathy knew exactly what she was doing by starting that conversation 2 feet away from Caroline. Her blog is bull sh*t. I tweeted her that I am no longer following her because of her crap stirring ways, and lo and behold she blocked me. Good. Im just glad I did it first!!

      • Powell says:

        blue I get you about the payment from the mags. T says no money J says yes money. T says no cause she doesn’t want Bravo to get their part. That’s what the contract say so Bravo gets their part. Why are the mags agreeing to whatever i.e. accept the stories from A and pay A then A gives it to T minus A’s part? Why is Bravo so greedy that they want a piece of the Bravoleberties outside income?

        • Bravo is furious that Bethenny doesn’t have to pay them part of her earnings. After Bethenny, all Bravo contracts stipulate that a percentage (don’t know the exact amount) has to be paid to Bravo from any earnings a cast member makes from appearances, products, books etc. as a result of them being on the show. I don’t think it’s right or fair, Bravo is way too greedy. Or so I’ve read…..I would think that percentage is very negotiable. The “stars” like Lisa & Teresa hopefully pay less.

          Andy seemed to be very nice to Teresa on WWHL, he doesn’t want to annoy the “star” of the RHONJ. I caught him looking a little perplexed at Caroline, like he doesn’t understand her explanation of why she is so angry at Teresa.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      Didnt they all try to conspire to get Tre kicked off the show? Yea, like that was going to happen. Plan backfired in their faces.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        Andy is always too busy counting other peoples money. I think it is sad that Bravo/Andy feel the need to suck so much out of these women, they do not seem to have any respect for. So I think Caroline is trying to tattle on Teresa without being up front. She wants Teresa to get in trouble with Bravo/Andy if their are accounting errors with the magazine articles, so she keeps bring up the articles and payments over and over again, thinking that the boss will become angry and go after Teresa. Caroline is a MONSTER! JMHO.

  9. AZGirl says:

    Last night I was all ready with wine in hand and the phone rings. It was one of my brother’s calling long distance. I missed half of the show. Then the computer monitor started going out so I was not able to chat. AHHHHHH. So frustrating. I did watch the fight and there is something else going on with these people. This cannot just be about a cookbook or a mag cover. It just does not make sense. Something went down behind the scenes that we the viewer are not privy too.

  10. Eastbayca says:

    Morning all,
    For those who watched the Kardashians last night, did anyone notice the Johnny Depp look alike?
    I wonder if it is the same one we will see on RHONY?

  11. RHOFrance says:

    Thanks for the recap of the episode (i just watched it !) and WWHL (i can’t get ahold of those, are they on youtube ? I can’t watch videos from Bravo due to regional restrictions), it’s really appreciated !

    Well, that was a fun episode !
    1) Suspens : will drunk Joe try to beat Caroline ? Be beat up by Al ?
    Obviously, it was a little bit disapointing on that regard but hey, at least i believed it for 5 all minutes ! More suprisingly, his drunk ass was right mostly all time during the blablabla going on next to them. How can this man have more common sens that all men combined is astonishing. That’s a new low, even for this show !
    2) Craycray : wow Jacqueline, are you really trying to pull the old “if i close my eyes, i’m pretty sure you can’t see me as i can’t see you but hey keep it up girls, i love hearing your BS !”. She could have walked away at anytime if this was sooooooooo uncumfortable but no, better be here to hear the goods !
    3) No cheap porn.
    THANK YOU JESUS ! I will not end blind this week.
    4) Revelations
    Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaat ? Tre gets paid for being on a cover ? Si-riou-sli ? I had nooooooo idea because as a viewer i’m, of course, a moron.
    5) 50 is the new 12.
    “And Tresa said that Melissa was a whore, and that my sons are pimps, and that i’m not italian, and when when i was last saturday my daddy said i could stay to the mall all day but i should not speak to boys ! Hihihihi”.
    Ohhhyeaaaah, what a fantastic grown woman. What an exemple for us all. But thanks to Caroline and Kathy, i feel much better about myself today.
    6) Shut up Lauren. And try not to watch at the camera when you are taking sides in a conversation which doesn’t concern you “man, did you get that ? Is the little red light on ?”. This just proves you are a pooooor actress.

    Well ! I can’t wait for next week to see how the Wicked Teresa will be responsible for aaaaall the problems in Caroline’s life and the global warming. Teresa is really almighty if I understand correctly !

    • Iowagirl says:

      Funny as hell france! You should do a recap! Right on point with everything. My golden retriever has the same ploy as Jac, if I shut my eyes they can’t see me and I won’t get in trouble.

    • Funny! Sorry don’t know where you can watch WWHL but google and see what you can find out there. Half the time WWHL is not that great anyway, if that’s any consolation.

      At least you have great wine to drink while watching the show! Nice to hear from a real “Frenchie.” I have cousins over there, they used to live near the CDG airport, Chantilly area.

      • RHOFrance says:

        Yeah, half the time i don’t care much about WWHL, i like reading recaps. But sometimes it’s frustrating ! I will try harder to find them but I’m kind of lazy sometimes !
        Haaaaaaa Chantilly, there is a great wood nearby. We would go there as kid to have fresh air ! I’m not near Paris anymore ! Trivia : in the Chantilly castle, they filmed portion of a James Bond A view to a kill.
        Ok, that’s not really super interesting ! i’ll admit ! I hope you have the chance (if not yet done) to go see them one day ! It’s a great place, as i remember it as a kid anyway, near Paris to visit (and Disneyland !) !

        • I did visit a couple of times, and we toured the castle. We saw the stables for the horses, so grand. I did see the movie & enjoyed recognizing the locale. Paris is my favorite city, of all the European cities I’ve seen. My cousin jokes that Switzerland is so beautiful, sad about the people that live there (not being nice lol). We are related through Swiss ancestry.

          • watching “Midnight in Paris” now…..bbl
            shows Paris so well….beautiful

            • RHOFrance says:

              Almost too well, i barely recognised it ! Like in Ratatouille if you know what i mean !
              But i love Paris very much. It’s our melting pot in France. All cultures are there, not always looking forward in the same direction sadly but it’s a joyfull city (and food is f***g great !). But i don’t want to be too much chauvinistic (it that the word ?). I’m really happy you love Paris. French people have a bad reputation. It was probably true 30 years ago that we were all the time pissed but my geeky generation (i’m 34 years old) is trying really hard to prove that we are open to the world and welcoming people !

              • Iowagirl says:

                Paris rocks! I had my best meal ever there about 8 years ago. A steaming pot of mussels and two bottles of fantastic wine, it was a three hour meal of divine atmosphere. It reminds me of our San francisco. Give me Paris anytime but NEVER give me London, uptight people, overpriced and really bad food. I love Strasbourg France just as much as Paris, a must see on a European trip.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:


    • The Tin Man says:

      Your comment is far more entertaining than the show was. Do you think that they have figured out that we morons who watch this show, do so only so that we can make fun of them? Or do they know that’s what they’re getting paid for?

      • Some of them think they are legends, lol. They are all willing to be dragged through the mud, all for the chance of making $ and seeing themselves on tv (you have to be a famewhore to do these shows, right?).

      • RHOFrance says:

        Thanks for you kind comment on my comment (mise en abîme) !
        I really can’t see why those people are allowing themselves to be seen being ridiculous. I love it, to be real clear, i love laughing at them or being completly flabbergasted, and i will be forever grateful to Bravo for it but i can’t help myself wishing that Teresa, Caroline and their supporting cast are part of the joke. If not, it’s kinda sad for them. Kinda. I’m not that good of a samaritan to really feel sorry for any of them if not ! Or for us watchers when we take those shows too seriously ! 🙂

        • The Tin Man says:

          I’m not a good Samaritan either, not by a long stretch; in fact, when it comes to these women, I don’t have a heart. I don’t worry about them, feel sorry for them, or pray for them. They’re sport; that’s what they’re paid for.

      • RHOFrance says:

        Thank you really much for taking the time but all i got is a black video and a voice saying “this content is currently anavailable”.
        I will try to find it later, i have to go now. Thanks again for all your kind comments and have a nice day !

        • Not the right time says:

          if you are outside of America you can’t watch the bravo video but you can watch it on some sites that show TV episodes.

    • Powell says:

      RHOFrance you are too funny. 🙂

  12. Iowagirl says:

    Can anyone tell me about this fired producer? I hear comments on it but I have never heard the story. They were pro Manzo? They were fired for editing pro Manzo? what’s the story?

    • From what I read, there was a female producer that sort of became the Manzoid’s lapdog. Tried to give them the “good edit” while hating Teresa. It is the Teresa show (she sure does bring home the bacon for Bravo from her many products, books, appearances etc.) so Teresa demanded this producer get the axe. Oh they were all lovey dovey on twitter too, until people noticed and that stopped, over a year ago. That’s all I got.

      • Iowagirl says:

        Quad cities, on the Illinois border

      • ATLnNYC09 says:

        Whoever she is didnt do that good of a job. That “good edit” for the Manzo’s only made me dislike them more.

      • mrs peabody says:

        they should have fired her for the rotten job she did, she didn’t make the Manzo’s look good she made them look horrible

    • VV says:

      Twitter handle @yourfriendkitty She made it private after she was outed for being the architect of the Giudices bashing.

  13. Iowagirl says:

    Jac would not have faked sleeping if she thought this was Teresa’s fault, she just doesn’t have the guts to go against Caroline. Bury your head in the sand Jac, great way to deal with your life, it worked with Ashley right?

  14. ATLnNYC09 says:

    Those Manzo kids are the type that make me want to stay (in my southern accent) “Stay out of grown folks business.” Even though they are technically adults, they behave like 10 year olds in everything they do. Plus they have mommy and daddy still taking care of them.

    • Three Blessed says:

      I dont get why Caroline is suppose to be such a good mother?? Her kids have accomplished nothing on their own.. And all three of them seem to be total dimwits !

      • kendo says:

        What was the deal when Caroline said Albert would destroy Joe Guidice? I didn’t realize that Albert was such a bad ass. Is she saying he’s connected? And Chris was ready to kill Joe Guidice. The are sounding more and more like a mob family.

      • Caroline’s kids laugh easily, they seem like they’re up for fun, they’re concerned about their work and future. Nothing wrong with this in my book. I know a lot of families whose single children in their 20’s and 30’s still socialize with their 50 something parents. This is not unusual in my world.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          kendo, I have always considered the Manzo/Laurita posse to be very shady. Almost too dangerous to talk about in public. I also do not think they are very popular in New Jersey. Another reason why they are hell bent on dragging Teresa/Joe down into their sewage. IMO.

  15. bea says:

    See I do get the issue with the magazines. I would never be friends with someone who sold negative stories, and talked about me in any way (positive or negative) to the press. And Teresa lied over and over again this season about if she was participating in the articles, it wasn’t until Joe confirmed that they did get paid for the articles (and not just the cover pictures) that either one of them admitted this. I’m not friends with people who I know lie to me.

    Add that to the other things Tre and Juicy have done (bankruptcy while hiding money, Joe’s DUI and attempt to get a fake license, Joe’s disgusting launguage to his wife and daughters throughout the entire series) and I can’t imagine ever wanting to be around this couple. It has notihing to to with jealousy, just that I think they are genuinely bad people.

    That being said I would never be friends with any of the women on this show. Caroline has been my least favorite (even more than Danielle who I just thought was pathetic), since the first season. I think what bothers me most about the show is trying to pick the lesser of 2 evils, because they all come accross so poorly. To me, it’s impossible to be one “side” or another because they are all so horrible.

    • BB says:

      They really are all pretty horrible, bea. I agree.

    • I know exactly how you feel. Out of them all, I used to think that maybe I could be friends with someone like Jac. But then she lost all her marbles and started to block anyone who was critical of her; I don’t even mean rude, just a civil disagreement got people blocked on twitter. Jac is like a child, as RHOFrance put it, she thinks if she closes her eye and doesn’t see something then they also can’t see her, if she blocks twitter comments from those who aren’t on her ‘side’ then, she thinks the opposition disappears. Sorry Darlin, it’s still there.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      I agree – I see their problem w/Teresa being, not as much the stuff that she’s doing and saying w/the tabloids, but then she denies it and lies about it. If she’s doing this and doing it for the money or to promote herself, just say so. But, she’s being so shady – you can’t trust her, how can you actually accept her as a friend?

      • I’m not seeing what are suppose to be all the glaring contradictions. Joe says they were paid by InTouch, Teresa said they were paid by InTouch. Who really knows of all the terms and conditions to that deal but the bottom line is that it’s her story to tell and sell.

        What is their gripe, that Teresa told a magazine they make fun of her? They do.

        That they don’t support her? They don’t. Joe and Mel only went to a book singing after they were on the show and they knew it would be aired. Kathy went to one and accused her of poaching her mom’s recipes.

        • bea says:

          See I would swear that Teresa had said they were just paid for the pictures on the cover, not for interviews/content. I remember her saying she had no input into what was in the articles. If she said that, when they actually were gettting paid for the articles (not just pictures), then it would be a direct lie.

          Like I said earlier though, I wouldn’t be friends with any of these women. I actually think they are all pretty similar when it comes to personality, which is probably why they don’t get along.

          • She did say they get paid for the pictures. I think it has something to do with owning the rights to your image.

            • VV says:

              She said paid for pictures and that they send her a small questionnaire with questions and she answers them. I think these tabloids much like Bravo take the liberties of adding quotes from the show to make the magazine juicer. I also think Bravo plants stories to create drama amongst the cast.

          • mrs peabody says:

            I think to Teresa there is a difference between doing an actual interview with a mag (like she did with Jacq) and her just answering some questions they sent her or maybe them asking her things while they are shooting the photos. She has said over and over she gets paid for the photos only which I think she does. I think the interview her and Jacq did was a paid interview. I think that because she is not doing an interview like her and Jacq did and because that is what she thinks an interview is suppose to be, in her mind she is not doing an interview only a photo shoot. It’s all just a matter of words and what your idea of an interview is. Does that make sense to anyone?

            • Called A Princess... says:

              It makes sense to me. The issue is that the mob does not want Teresa to make any money. They want, as a group to make anything she does, look dirty. She is just trying to make money for her family, and it seems to be working. The others hate that they might be used to help Teresa make money. By talking about her on the show so much, they have made her more of a money maker. I do not feel their pain for them, unless laughing too much counts for anything. No one on this show is very smart. JMHO.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      All those people are shady, and I could not see myself being friends with them either. It just amazes me how they want to judge the other ones as being “disgraceful” and “shady” and “liars” and “no good” when they are all a bunch of damned pots calling a bunch of damned kettles black.

      And this whole “own up to what you do,” I don’t see ANY of those fools really owning up to what they do either — unless their backs are up against the wall and they are forced into a position where they cannot lie about it anymore.

      • ATLnNYC09 says:

        Exactly. Its pot meets kettle. They criticize Tre about the magazines but who do we see recently in a magazine? Lauren and her lapband. Melissa posing for photos in her bikini giving dieting tips. Jacqueline talking to People magazine about her son having autism. Hmmm, ‘cuse me, what do I smell? Hypocrisy. Its the same thing Tre does but she gets more offers and theres where the problem lies.

    • Powell says:

      I’m w/you bea. I’m on no side. #newcastnextseason is my mantra.

    • MM in OC says:

      I believe the tabloid issue is all an argument over symantics. Teresa says that she is paid for photos and she answers a few questions that are asked of her. That’s much different that selling articles, which is something I believe PR people do. Teresa doesn’t know what the tenor of the article will be, what the headline is, etc. As many people have said, most of these articles have quotes directly from the show. Also, I rarely see Teresa quoted directly. This is very different than that article in People about Jax autistic son.

      Regardless, the whole argument is stupid. What really makes me mad is that Chucky keeps saying that Kathy and Melissa are such nice people and she doesn’t give any credence to Teresa’s main issue – that they came on the show to create drama with the family.

      The main issues seem to be jealously over Teresa’s opportunities and the dominican republic vacation where the favored sons got into a brawl and were arrested.

      Finally, I think I’m the only one that couldn’t stand Carowhine’s mob mentality from the start. Her treatment of Danielle has shifted to Teresa. A hater through and through – does anyone think Caro is in a better and happy place???

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Hi Bea. Welcome if you’re new.

  16. ATLnNYC09 says:

    Please Bravo fairy, bring Dina to the RHONJ reunion

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Yes, please, and can you also bring Danielle, pretty please, oh, BRAVO Fairy!

      • Iowagirl says:

        In a perfect world that would be the cake and eat it too!

        • RHOFrance says:

          I join the choire ! I want Danielle & Dina to be here ! This will never happen but bring on the real crazy bitches ! Danielle first please. She’s so…so… well…crazy. Sad for her girls (the porn part mostly) but at least she was a good viliain, Expendables style. She dies on the show but she kept coming back ! And back. And back. And she could talk. Her rhetoric was impeccable most of the time ! In real life i could certainly not stand her but in a show well… she was great. *sigh* her persona was sooooooo much… if you look back, most plots of RHONJ were planted because of her. Most of the things needed to be said about the others women were said there : Teresa is totally loco and can’t control her temper, Caroline a wannaby Carmela Soprano (drama and soul searched included), Jacqueline is a flipflop. Then and there, everything was said about those women. The rest is like eating bread with home made mayo : it’s heavy, it’s fat but boy it doesn’t get any better than this !

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Yep. Danielle was indeed crazy. But, as time has passed, it certainly looks like many of the things she said about her castmates turned out to be TRUE, right? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

          • trudie says:

            “The rest is like eating bread with home made mayo : it’s heavy, it’s fat but boy it doesn’t get any better than this !” 😀

            • Called A Princess... says:

              I found Danielle to be crazy and dangerous. I feel for her daughters and family, but she was in over her head and that is what made her more dangerous. I did not enjoy her meltdowns because she was her biggest problem. Beside Taylor and Kim ZeeBee she will go down as the sleaziest character, in Bravo housewife history. IMO.

  17. Powell says:

    Good morning all. I’m home w/a migraine. Sorry im late saying hello.
    Grandma BB congratulations on your 1st grandchild coming. It’ll be so nice in the Spring and Summer when you’ll have the baby at the beach. You can tell them to drop the baby off and be on their way. Haha. Congrats to grandpa too.

    • FlowerPower says:

      Ugh, sorry you have a migraine! I had one yesterday, spent a couple seconds in the chat room and had to bail.

      Hope it passes soon and you’re feeling much better!

    • Powell sorry to hear that. Watching RHONJ is probably the cause. Hope you feel better soon!

    • BB says:

      Thank you Powell! I’m sorry you have a migraine and hope it eases up and goes away soon.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I’m so sorry, Powell. Migraines can be the absolute worst. I hope you feel better soon.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Sorry, Powell – feel better!

      • Powell says:

        Thks everyone. blue I wish I could put the blame on NJ for this migraine. This one took root Wed, Thurs, went away and came back yesterday. No ryme or reason. Ugh. I just want it to go.

    • trudie says:

      I was having headaches every day for at least 4 months. They would range in severity and it was draining. A friend suggested that I pick up Fever Few from GNC. I take it twice a day and, while I have had occasional migraines (usually when the barometric pressure changes), my daily headaches have stopped. You should try it and see if it helps.

  18. Thank you for the recap BB, loved it. So good to see Michelle back, enjoyed her blog too. Little Newton, you did a good job too. NMD I’m not into Big Brother. I think my family would tie me up, throw me in the SUV and then drop me off somewhere in the backwoods of PA if I watch any more reality shows…..they put up with my obsession but still appreciate my skills at cooking/laundry/housekeeping… least so far. 😉

  19. ATLnNYC09 says:

    Caroline should have just accepted Teresa’s apology, even if it was fake. She looks like fool acting hateful on tv. Teresa isnt her friend and wasnt going to be her friend either way. She could have had a little tact and saved some face (lord knows she needs it). Instead she came off looking like a lunatic thats off her meds.

    She always plays the “I am what I am card” but her delivery is always cruel and vicious. She makes a few good points but it gets lost in all of that hate and envy clearly written on her face.

    • Birdwoman says:

      I completely agree! If Caroline actually had good social skills, she would accept the apology at face value even if she thinks it is crap and kept a cordial but distant relationship with Teresa. I can really tell that Caroline has not held a job in a company. You don’t have to like all your co-workers but you have to at least be civil to them.

      I don’t think this book of hers is going to sell well. She is like the countess when it comes to advice books. 😉

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      And what’s with all of this “I am what I am” crap, Popeye!! I mean, Caroline acts like that just excuses everything.

      That’s like a serial killer saying, “Oh well, you know, I am what I am. It is what it is” to the families of all of the victims he’s killed. It’s like….Ummm…What?

      • Detox you would make an excellent trial attorney, you could persuade the jury with your arguments to agree with you 🙂

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          Thanks, Blue. I’ve sat 2nd chair on several trials and handled 2 by myself.

          I HATE, HATE, HATE trial work, though. I CAN do it, but it is SOOOOOOOOO stressful (I prefer the trial PREP work. I love researching and writing too. I also prefer settling things before they ever get to trial. Most things settle before they ever get to trial these days anyway).

          The thing is this, Juries like it if you treat them with respect and talk to them in plain English and sometimes just explain things to them using good ol’ common sense (y’know…like Matlock?). Acting all pompous does not win points. Judges like this as well (They basically want you to cut the bullshit and posturing and get to the damned point. They also don’t like a whole lot of game-playing and underhanded stuff. Unfortunately, my profession contains MANY that love the underhanded, game-playing stuff).

          Another good thing is being underestimated. When you are only 5 feet tall and look a lot younger than your chronological age and are often mistaken for the secretary (I cannot tell you how many times I was asked to serve coffee before a deposition or mediation began) or the paralegal or the court reporter, it’s nice to just get up there and leave the other side’s mouth hanging open.

          The great thing about being underestimated is that they never see you coming!! 😀

  20. Dovey1000 says:

    I have never been more embarrassed to admit I watch NJHW than after last nite’s show. Storm Caro and Terroresa have lost all dignity. These 2 “adult” women are mothers for crying out loud.

  21. BB says:

    Great blogs, Michelle (welcome back), NMD and Little Newton. Thanks for the lovely picture this morning, Boston.

  22. Orson says:

    I just thought I’d post a brief recap of what was revealed in our own chat room last night. I thought it was pretty shocking.

    1. BlueEyedGirl is Nigerian. Her husband passed away and left her 40 gazillion USD that she needs help with to move into the US of A.

    2. Stars99 (aka Stars999) got very defensive when someone mentioned “If you use a feather, it’s kinky, but if you use the whole chicken, it’s SICK!” Which we took as proof that we did NOT want to know what Stars does with chickens. It’s probably best that way.

    3. GrandmaButterBean (aka GBB) has embarrassing and nekked photos of her daughter, QueenButterBean (aka QBB) that she’s willing to post for us online if we’ll pay her,

    4. QBB refuses to set up a paypal account for her mother, GBB. And QBB does NOT deny allegations that she keeps her mother locked in either her attic, basement, or cupboard under the stairs.

    5. MelTheHound doesn’t eat Bacon because it gives him heartburn.

    You see what you folks who don’t come to chat are missing? Remember, it’s not about the children that don’t have any legs, IT’S ABOUT THE MOTHERS WHOSE DAUGHTERS KEEP THEM LOCKED IN THE CUPBOARD UNDER THE STAIRS!!

  23. Carwtheels says:

    OMG, what an episode last night.
    I still don’t know what to make out of Caroline, she is such a misguided person, controlling to the ultimate point, if she doesn’t like someone, then nobody can like her, she is so full of herself that she thought that is she banned Teresa from her life, then she will be gone from the show.

    I have never been happier to hear the say “It came to bite you in the behind” , oh boy, all this hate has come to bite Caroline in the proverbial behind. I think she is still scrating her head and doesn’t know what hit her. All her cards were aligned, all her peons were very well versed on their roles, her kids/friends/boyfriends/girlfriends, were also on cue, this was going to be Caroline’s season, this was the season for her to show her power; she probably laughed with her family at the easiness of taking Teresa down. After all she had taken Danielle, Dina, both Kims down, so inarticulate, dumb, stupid Teresa was just an apetizer. How wrong she was!!

    By the simple power of Teresa being so dumb and inarticulate, she has made even more obvious what a bully Caroline really is, even people who don’t like Teresa, can’t defend Caroline’s behavior, and I bet the Manzo’s, Lauritas, Gorgas and Wakiles are right now holding emergency meetings, trying to design a plan for the reunion, who will say what and how can they twist and push Teresa’s buttons to make her flip a table, hit a castmate or even better Andy Cohen. That would be the only think that would redeem them in the viewer’s eyes.

    I know it is a long strech but I wish so hard that Teresa would not show up at the reunion, Teresa could pull a Jacqueline and say that she is sick of the drama and can’t face it anymore and just skip the reunion, what are these four ladies going to talk about? It would be laughable.
    Unfortunately for Teresa she probably needs the money so she will attend the reunion and receive it from all ends, be careful Bravo, the viewers, more and more, are opening their eyes to your blatant manipulation in order to create drama.

    • If Teresa doesn’t show up, they should all just go home and stay there.

    • NightLight95 says:

      It’s so funny that the Clown would tell Tre she had instructed Jax to stay out of it. The Manzo’s were in full projection mode. Every insult that they hurled at Tre was simply them acting it out. Bullying, puppeteer, instigator and full of crap.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Yeah, last night, Caroline even said that Teresa was putting thoughts into Joe Giudice’s head!! I mean, how ludicrous is that? First of all, the idea of thougts in Joe Giudice’s head is simply unfathomable to me. Second of all, NOBODY can control Joe Giudice and tell him what to do — especially not Teresa.

        Caroline has lost her damned mind!!

        • NightLight95 says:

          The Clown knew she was sinking and was desperate and like the pathetic mother that she is she allowed her ass-hole daughter and strip-car-wash kid try and fight for her. What the Clown can’t take on Tre? LOSER!

        • That thought in Joe’s head must be pretty lonely.

  24. Sasha says:

    I’m thinking that Kathy should have left well enough alone. Teresa is delusional in some aspects. Caroline needs to relax and release. Far too much energy was devoted to that argument. I like the Manzo kids although Lauren can get on my nerves. They all seem to have good hearts in my opinion.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      I agree – nothing new was exchanged there – just more vitriol. No point to it.

    • NightLight95 says:

      The whole point was that the Manzo tribe had been saying all of this behind Tre’s back so now it was out in the open. The Clown can’t fake it so there you go.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        But that is the point. Really! Caroline can not deal with her own personal failures, so she is projecting them on to Teresa, which makes her the fake. The Bitter Clown! IMO.

  25. Thanks for the blogs everyone. Cheers toNMD for all your daily work- and the help of LC.Thanks to BB for all her contributions. Great first blog Little Newton. So happy to see Michelle back, now we just need to find e-rizzle. A Very happy Birthday to Queen Of Butter Beans.

    I am sorry if I left anyone out of my toast. It wasn’t deliberate.

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  26. VV says:

    Why would Teresa swear on her kids that she ever said a bad word about Caroline if it wasn’t true? I believe she didn’t do it. Tre does talk to magazine but this magazines make things up.

    • Magazines do make things up. I am also sure they can also take statements said in the show- put quotes on it and put it in print and build their own context around them.

      • Powell says:

        Right. T said in one of her blogs that Jac doesn’t know how the mags work, well neither does Caroline for that matter. I don’t understand why they don’t understand. Is everything written about them true then?

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      I believe what she swore was that she never WROTE a bad thing about Caroline.

      Teresa’s a little cagier than we give her credit for.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      The things with those magazines is this, they take pix and recycle quotes and manipulate pix and take things said on the show, etc., etc.

      Teresa is NOT lying about there being NUMEROUS negative stories about her and her family. Is SHE putting them out there? Jac and the rest of the gang are trying to say that Teresa is putting them out there to make people feel sorry for her. I’ve read some of those negative stories. They don’t make me feel sorry for Teresa. They make her sound like an a*shole (which leads me to believe they were put out by BRAVO or one of her castmates who also wanted to make a buck or two).

      The way Teresa passionately and adamantly kept telling Caroline that she NEVER said one negative thing about her in any magazine….I don’t know. I’m sorry, but I think she was telling the truth. On WWHL, when Andy kept pressing Caroline to tell him exactly WHAT Teresa said in the mags that was so offensive to HER in particular, Caroline, in my opinion, could not really come up with anything so egregious that it justified her absolutely horrible behavior to Teresa all season.

      MONTHS BEFORE Caroline gleefully made her prediction about Joe going off to jail, Teresa leaving him and writing a book about it, that same article with those exact same predictions was in Us Magazine (I know because I read it for free while I was standing in the grocery store. What? You think I was going to pay for that sh*t?!). Isn’t it funny that months later, Caroline makes that exact same prediction on the show? So, it seems like Caroline was the more likely culprit to have sold that story to Us Magazine — NOT Teresa.

      At this point, with the way Caroline is behaving, the way she’s saying she wants Teresa gone, the way it was KILLING her to see Teresa getting along with her family and having a good time on the trip, the way it is KILLING her that Teresa and Dina are still friends, I would not put it past Caroline to have a hand, along with BRAVO producers, in setting it up at the end to make it look like Teresa tried to out Melissa as a former stripper. This is simply MY opinion. No offense.

      • Powell says:

        Detox I read those same mags in line at the grocery store. I frankly wouldn’t put it pass anyone in your scenario to have given mags stories.

  27. Powell says:

    Michelle its so nice to see you back covering fashion. ITA with your assessments. The only thing I will say is that if LuAnn would spend some money and buy clothes rather than borrow them maybe she wouldn’t have worn a torn looking jacket. But when you borrow sometimes you get what you pay for.

  28. I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

    Good Morning, All,

    I have not even read the blog comments yet, just the blogs. I want to take the time to acknowledge and thank No More Drama, Boston, BB, Little Newton (Congratulations on your 1st blog! You did a great job, and I think Lynn would have been pleased and proud.), and Michelle NY for all of your great blogs.

    I also want to say Happy Birthdy to Queen Butter Bean!! 😀

  29. Last nights episode….

    Kathy is no Saint. She is a shit stirrer who genuflects at the alter of Caroline Manzo. She would kiss her ring but Caroline hand is already up her butt because she is the puppet master.

    The look on her face getting to the hot tub was like a chicken hawks in a hen house. We all know, there were conversations and plotting that happened behind the 4th wall. As much as I can’t stand the OC bunch, at least they were honest in saying they were going to Costa Rica with trying to take down Alexis.

    She thought she would get a reaction from Teresa when she brought up the toast. Honestly, being offended over that is really, really reaching. But Caroline put the bug in her ear so she sent with it. Then she starts yammering about how Teresa should work harder to keep her friendship with Caroline knowing Caroline can over hear. She was obviously baiting Teresa to say some crap about Caroline. But Teresa must have got the memo because she didn’t bash Caroline, she simply said that it was Caroline’s decision to sever the ties and she can’t do anything about it.

    Then the sour puss Ronald McDonald with tits, eavesdrops in on the conversation. She is waiting for her cue to jump in but Teresa is making it hard, because she didn’t take the bait. So Caroline has to interject on something related to Kathy. Yeah Manzo, you just keep putting the lid on everyone elses fires. With skills like yours, all of NJ will be up in smoke.

    Then if things weren’t bad enough, she drags the husbands into it. I swear Joe Gu must be mobbed up, the way they all kiss his ass. Then Caroline says that her husband will destroy Joe, what is he going to do? Bore him to death? Defeat him with his knowledge of Kentucky Fried Chicken locations?

    Then bitter clown JR chimes in.

    I just can’t take it.

    • Oh and Jac wasn’t pretending to be sleeping, she was pretending to be passed out drunk. What a method actor.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Rabble, I don’t need to even comment because your recap was excellent!!!!

      Kudos to all the writers. Great job. Bravo Newton for your first write up. It was great.

      Just a couple of things…………….Caroline saying on WWHL how Teresa’s blogs are disgusting. Has she read Jacqueline’s????? How about her own earlier ones before she started not writing blogs at all cos of how she was being skewered?????? Only recently did Teresa start “attacking” some of the women, and no where were her words as nasty as some of the others.

      Caroline calling Teresa a sociopath? I swear, all Bravo had to do was take out Teresa and put in Danielle, cos everything that Caroline says to Teresa she had said to Danielle.

      Caroline is a disgrace. She makes Jill look like a saint.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      By the way, I read somewhere (I forget) that Joe Giudice was RIGHT, and there WAS a KFC at that particular location over which they were arguing. Not that it matters but…FYI.

      I have a feeling Kathy has been doing these sneaky, passive-aggressive things to Teresa for YEARS now. Why? I have no idea. I mean why fail to include your only female cousin in your wedding? Why allow your husband to make constant digs at her even after she asks you to make him stop (this is before the show)? Why, when your cousin gets on the show, do you constantly put her down for it and say how you would “never” do something like that and “take time away” from your family? Then why do you later go on the show and fail to even mention it to her?

      Kathy has just got this “thing” with Teresa. Maybe it’s because her husband can’t seem to keep Teresa’s name out of his mouth. That’s not Teresa’s fault.

      In all honesty, I think Kathy saying she wants a relationship with relationship is bull and just lip service.

      Kathy plays sweet and innocent and nice, but that bitch ain’t foolin’ me ONE bit!!!

      • LOL- I was wondering what the truth was about that KFC location.

        I think Kathy is the Queen of passive aggressive. I don’t think it’s all sunshine and lollipops in Walkie land. Her husband is a frigging CREEP. While the Joe’s have plenty to be embarrassed about given their boorish behavior, there isn’t much to be said about Richie who leers at young women.

      • Rebecca says:

        IMHO, I think Kathy has always been jealous of Teresa. It appears Teresa grew up with everyone adoring her. Kathy befriended her because she wasn’t cool and Teresa was. she then gets to “put her in her place” by not asking Tre to be a bridesmaid.

      • Chicago Diane says:

        I believe everything we have heard (nefarious that is) about why Melissa, Kathy and boys joined the show When I think back, Teresa and Juicy were really living it up in every way- and we never were really exposed to their family. I do remember her introducing her brother at one of the speeches, but I bet she and Juicy were real pains in the neck about being on the show as it opened- and it drove Meillsa and Kathy nuts. They had applied and been turned down mutiple times-. Money-as in cash- was rolling freely- and they were having those enormous, over the top parties- while hiring people to stage the parties, making them as over the top as they could be-remember them renting all that ridiculous looking gold lame furniture for the one party? Juicy must have been lording it over the other guys about his profoundly successful business- he supposedly gave Joe G jr his into to the business.

        I looked at Melissa’s website as the season she started , opened- it was full of direct comparisions between rooms and house decor- with Melissa openly showing T’s and her’s and pointing out how much better hers were- they weren’t but the envy was completely overt. I would bet, knowing them both, that T and Juicy were not a lot of fun about all they thought they had- and the others did not- . And Melissa and Kathy have now spent two seasons showing that they had unfulfilled aspirations of using the show to gain success and visibility- none of which has led to anything of value- but boy they were jealous.

        Meanwhile Caroline had spent several years insisting they were better than blood- a “family” thicker than water- and only Danielle was the one threatening it. Melissa and Kathy have been overt, jealous, and desperate to hurt Teresa- and while Tand Jiucy have dug most of their own problems all by themselves, these two women are neither innocent, sincere in a desire to be real family, talented, or honest with themselves. They have been jealous rotten- and every time Melissa does the sign of the cross backwards- as she alwasy does- she proves oce again that there is nothing she says that is truthful.

      • mrs peabody says:

        I think Kathy has been jealous of Teresa her who life, Teresa is younger, better looking, had more money, better figure, probably was idolized by her parents as the only daughter, I don’t think this is probably what Kathy had in her life and I think she has always resented Tereas for having what she probably wanted.

  30. Thedesigndiva says:

    We got HAMMERED here in chobee..up all night ..lots of rain..we are flooded bathrooms..thank God I know how to CAMP in a 5 gallon water bucket.. trees down and yard has about 8 inches of standing water..We kept power, but cable flickered along with internet.lots of serious lighting and heavy booming thunder… UNREAL..still raining here and intermittent wind gusts…was not really expecting all this ….have not heard a train in over 6 hrs…tracks must under water somewhere…weird…
    gonna be a gloomy day….UGH

    only watched a tad of HWS.. weather more important..will catch up later…what I did see was BS…it ‘s the same thing every week…I think this series is DONE…and tre lives in denial land…

    ya all have a good one and those waiting for Isaac..BUCKLE UP..the right side of this storm is NASTY..that’s what hit us….

  31. sugar magnolia says:

    I am not a Mama Manzo fan, but I just can’t stand behind ANYTHING Teresa says! Especially with her husband confirming everything to the men in the background. I found Melissa and Kathy to be very graceful in their silence–they didn’t have a dog in that fight and they acted accordingly. Jacqueline gets a pass, because we now know she was thinking about her son and this arguing was so petty and small in her life at the time. Teresa…..holy cow, that woman has NO IDEA of self-awareness….she was caught over and over contradicting herself. Bottom line…if Caroline, or anyone else made a “joke” depricating one of her daughters, she would put out Mama Bear claws. Say what you (or I!) want about her, her love and devotion to her girls is obvious and genuine. As is all of the Jersey HW’s. For her to pretend that this was not meant to hurt Caroline is ridiculous. If it was ongoing joke between them, or if she had called her first, that would be different. She didn’t…Grown or not, kids are OFF THE TABLE. When criticizing someone’s kids, you are ultimately criticizing their parenting, and when you do that…the gloves are off. Like I said, if it was so funny, it would’ve been an ongoing joke, or something they could laugh about together. Not the case here, and Teresa playing semantics (if she even knows what that means) didn’t and will never solve it. She went after Caroline’s sons, in print, and can never take it back. I agree with Caroline–“tell me you hate me and we’ll be done. Don’t tell me how much you love me with a fake smile.” Instead Tre brought up Dina….again, below the belt. Caroline has never once commented on the bankruptcy, the fake license, the DUI , etc….she keeps her thoughts on T’s business to herself. Ugh….I hate that Teresa has made me defend Caroline!

    In short–one has class, and one sold her soul to In Touch magazine. Which one are you going to believe–my $$$ is on Manzo!

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      I see your points but that ignoramus Chris Manzo did say those things. Tre didnt make them up. If he is big enough to say things about a stripper car wash, he needs to be man enough to accept the consequences that comes with it. He said it as a joke and he has become the joke. However, Tre did use his ignorance and jack assery to her benefit and I can see why Caro would take issue with it.

      • I don’t think Chris was joking about the car wash at all. Remember he went and visited a car wash to learn how they operate? The only reason it didn’t happen is because he didn’t have the money or the drive.

      • bea says:

        They dynamic between generations with this group is really weird. When I was in my early 20s the last people I wanted to hang out with was my parents and their friends.

        That being said, if I had the opportunity to publish a book, I wouldn’t go out of my way to comment about my friend’s kids, especially in a negative (even if it was a joke) way. Chris is only 22 or 23 now, so he was 18 or 19 when he was talking about opening the stripper car wash. 18-19 year old guys say a lot of dumb things. I’d hardly want my friends to comment, in book, about my son’s obviously dumb, teenage plans.

        I also agree that the kids don’t care as much about what she wrote as what is being played out. It’s fake drama.

    • BB says:

      I look at it this way. Caroline’s kids are over 18 and she has showcased them on the show from the beginning. So they are ON the table and have been ON the table as far as I’m concerned. And if Chris or Albie had a problem with what Teresa said in her book then they should have, as adults, addressed it with Teresa themselves. My bet is they didn’t have a problem with it at all, their mamma was just looking for something to fight with Teresa about. And Caroline may not have commented about their legal problems (because I think she has a thing for Juicy and not because she wanted to spare Teresae), but has commented about Teresa’s marriage a few times, hasn’t she?

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        And I will bet you that there are A LOT of things Teresa can say about Caroline Manzo’s marriage. She has not gone there, though, has she?

        And Teresa DID call Caroline before the cookbook went out TWICE. Last season when Jac went over to talk to Teresa about the cookbook comments, Teresa said she called Caroline twice to tell her what she was going to put in her cookbook and Caroline refused to return her phone calls for some reason (Teresa repeated this last night during the episode and again when she was on WWHL). So what? Teresa is supposed to tell her publishers to hold up production of her book until the “Great and All Knowing Queen Caroline” calls her back to grant her approval or disapproval?

        • Mary E says:

          ITA about the marriage. Tre could probably spill alot, but has not. Along with the rest of the cast…why do you think Caro takes the risk?

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Hmmm….I’m not sure why Caroline takes that risk. That’s a very good question. I think she takes the risk because she knows that Teresa will not do it out of respect for Dina and out of respect for Dina and Caroline’s mother, Nettie. In fact, last night on WWHL, Teresa told Andy that she was not going to really “go at Caroline” because Caroline is her elder AND because of the respect she has for Dina and for Dina and Caroline’s mother, Nettie.

      • mrs peabody says:

        I look at it this way, there is no difference in Caroline putting her adult kids out there on national tv than Teresa putting her problems on national tv. Same goes for all of them. If they feel they can talk about teresa because she puts it out there then same goes for anything they put out there including their adult children. If I had any daughters I would not want them working is a stripper car wash and would not have a problem saying it no matter who’s stupid idea it was. And just for the record I doubt Christopher had a problem with that comment in her cookbook, that was CAroline’s problem and Chris being the obedient son followed bitter clown’s lead. After all they seem to all share the same brain.

    • MelTheHound says:

      Grown or not, kids are OFF THE TABLE.

      Except they and their pal Greggy have done nothing but bash Teresa for the last two seasons now. If they want to be ‘off the table’ or momz wants to keep them off the table, then she should slap a muzzle on them. As far as I’m concerned, they are on the show, supposedly as adults, they are fair game. I know you are referring to the cookbook comment but all of these people should know that if you don’t want something repeated by anyone, Don’t say it. Not publicly anyway.

      • Mary E says:

        Adult children getting paychecks are not off the table. Unless they disappear, like Ashleeeeee. I hope hope hope the Lauritas leave. Not just because Jac looks like she’s about to have a breakdown, but they need to get their son off tv. Now. None of this bs about how they’re trying to raise consciousness about autism. BS.

        • MelTheHound says:

          I agree, Mary. The only time I’ve typed Ashley’s name this season is when we’ve seen or heard from her. Otherwise, out of sight, out of mind, and off of my table (where my laptop rests 😉 )

      • mrs peabody says:

        Minor children are off the table not grown children chosing to be on a reality tv show, they are fair game just like everyone else. I guess someone forgot to tell CAroline this. Thinking back she didn’t have a problem discussing Ashly on tv, guess the same rules don’t apply to her kids. If she doesn’t want them discussed get them off tv.

    • No way are kids off the table when they are grown adults getting a pay check from Bravo and using Bravo to sell their own wears. Especially when they do their own fair bit of sh!t talking.

      Teresa did not make a joke about Chris, she said she would not condone her daughter working at stripper car wash. That’s her prerogative.

      I actually think its so arrogant of Caroline Manzo to think that women should be in servitude of her idiot baby boy and that to say otherwise is an insult to her.

    • sugar magnolia says:

      all good points…HOWEVER…in real life, I don’t care how old my kids are, if someone wrote anything negative about them in print, my claws would be out. As would any of you if it was your neighbor, your friend, etc….I personally wouldn’t have my kids aspire to be strip-club owners, BUT, Teresa made a JUDGEMENT call on it. I don’t give a crap if it was hair salon owner, ice cream truck owner, shit-shoveling service owner–don’t say you wouldn’t approve of your kids doing what my child aspires to do. It was a dig, and you all know it. Round and round we can go on this–the manzo’s put their lives out there, the kids get paid, they are over 18–bottom line, you speak about my kids, you’d better be willing to take it when I get pissed. Those are my natural and maternal instincts that are no different than any other mother, including Caroline.

      • Sam says:

        I have to disagree with this. I love my kids dearly, but I would never defend the indefensible. That is, if they did something that I felt was wrong, then I wouldn’t defend their doing it. Otherwise I’d be giving tacit approval of their actions.

      • Trust me, I get how no matter how old are kids are, we want to protect them. But really, if we shield them from any form of criticism, we are doing them a disservice. How are these kids going to be prepared for life when mommy runs around and tries to silence all the naysayers.

        The thing is, Chris wasn’t going to be the naked one with a sponge some elses daughter was. Teresa has every right to say, it won’t be one of her daughters.

        Jac and Caroline have also said plenty about other people’s MINOR children, so they don’t get any support from me in this regard.

        • MelTheHound says:

          Plus One for RR 🙂

          • sugar magnolia says:

            comments like these are why I lurked for so many years.

            • MelTheHound says:

              Really? Here it is, SM.. If I think your ADULT kids are acting like fools, I’m going to say so. ESPECIALLY if they’ve put themselves on a TV show for all to see. At some point they have to sink or swim on their own and everything they put out there is a reflection on them. If you believe it a reflection on you as well, so be it.

        • sugar magnolia says:

          it’s not about shielding them from anything….this is about someone speaking ill about your kids. Whatever their relationship is/was, I would not accept nor expect another mother to speak about my kids in a negative, judgemental way. Teresa your way through your argument, but I can’t see any mother not having their claws out. Oh, and if you’re going to say with authority your last sentence, you should have quotes to back it up. I don’t recall either of them saying anything about anyone’s minor children. I’d like examples please. I hate the drive by’s……

          • sugar magnolia says:

            *****negative comments****** about minor children.

          • sugar magnolia says:

            just one example for you to chew on. FACT–Albie flunked out of law school. JUDGMENTAL–I wouldn’t condone one of my daughters flunking out of law school. Do you see the distinction?

          • I am hardly a drive by poster, I have been hear since the beginning. I also didn’t know it was necessary to provided you with examples before you asked for specifics, but since you did, here it does.

            Caroline said in the S1 reunion (maybe S2) Danielle’s daughters have no light in their eyes.
            She has made remarks about Ashley and Jac’s parenting of her. “Firm Hand Jac- firm hand’.
            She has called her own daughter an asshole.

            She has remained Gia as seen in the field day episode.

            Jac also reprimanded Gia as seen in the field day episode and more so in her blog, where she made a laundry list of things wrong with the Guidice girls and their behavior. She also saw fit to comment on a 5 year old by saying “I am not even going to mention Miliana” (talk about drive bys).

            She as

            • *she has reprimanded. ( I was lazy with the spell check 😦 )

              • Mary E says:

                RR, please ignore. Getting too nasty.

                • 😀
                  I think I will go have another cup of Joe.

                • sugar magnolia says:

                  Ridiculous….I have not used one foul word, and have simply been arguing my POV. “nasty” is what is going to happen to this site now that Lynn is gone. Like I said…back to lurking…I’m sure it will be much more entertaining when some of you can pat each other on the back with your backwards thinking. My kid is speech delayed….any digs you want to get in on MY parenting? My cousin’s daughter just got diagnosed with autism–surely she must have done something wrong and be vulnerable to YOUR nasty comments? Have it ladies….

                  • It’s not your POV about the show that comes across as nasty. It’s that you seem to think this is personal and are reacting as such. Are you having a bad day?

                    I have two daughters with a speech delay, one of them has other developmental and neurological issues. There are also posters here who have children or family members with an autism dx. You are not alone in that aspect but if you want to feel judgement where there is none, that’s your choice.

                    • sugar magnolia says:

                      yes, i am having a bad day….I hope you read my comment further down. And yes, and I mean this in a not-snotty way, I know that many are dealing with much more difficult situations with their children. I did not mean to be remiss, but I have had the unfortunate experience at the park, at school, etc mother’s questioning if my daughter was a preemie, if I didn’t eat enough during my pregnancy, or if my intake of gluten could possibly be the cause of her delay. Essentially.. “what did you do wrong?”. I am just…..cranky today.

                    • It’s all good now IG. 😉
                      MG apologized. I am happy to move forward. Her and I actually have something in common that we can build on. We both have daughters with speech delays.

                  • Iowagirl says:

                    Sorry but your being nasty. Your child’s speech delays have nothing to do with this argument. RR has a right to an opinion without attitude. Don’t invoke Lynn’s name with such haste, she believed everyone has the right to an opinion . Let’s keep it respectful even if we disagree.

                  • mrs peabody says:

                    knock it off

            • sugar magnolia says:

              I meant “drive by” in the sense that you make a heavy statement without anything to back it up. As “she who shall not be named” said, “just because you say it doesn’t make it true.” Trust me, I have been reading your ill conceived comments for years, so I know you’ve been here. And those examples are not fit for the statement you made. Back into lurkdome I go….Sorry, but this is not a pleasant for me. You go ahead and keep doing your “Teresa” dance and pretend that attacking someone’s kids is acceptable. No matter how many quotes or how much you respond, you will NEVER convince me that what Teresa said was not a dig. Sheesh….

              • No one asked you to leave or tried to run you off. But for someone who protests against unpleasantness, you seem to have to trouble with laying out personal criticisms of me. Can you show me where I attack you in kind?

                Everyone is someones kid, Teresa is someone’s kid, Jac is someones kid, Caroline is someones kid- should they be off the table too? Even if Teresa saying she doesn’t want her daughters to work at a car wash was a veiled dig against Chris, IMO it pales to the things the others have said about actual CHILDREN.

                Teresa dance? I am not even a Teresa fan.

                • sugar magnolia says:

                  You are correct…I find myself more heated than I normally would be. I apologize for that, and for my personal words. IDK if you are a mother, but I am. I have had strangers blithely question my parenting, or insult my kids (which is a kick in the stomach to me), especially when your kids are struggling with things you don’t find the need to share with everyone. I was perhaps to aggressive in my comments, but it is because I am passionate about defending my cubs. So, when I see a mother hurt by anothers comments (Teresa’s, not yours), I am quick to come to her defense. I lurk because I’m passionate and I can get into kerfuffles such as these, so it’s better for me to stay silent and watch everyone else, well, kerfuffle. You are not running me off. I apologize again that I gave you that impression. And, you do have some great posts. mea culpa?

                  • We all have our bad days and things that strike a cord with us. I hope you stick around, you will find that none of us are really grudge holders. We have all had our flare ups or moments where our passions have gotten the best of us. I am sure your heart is in the right place. For some reason, RH of NJ gets some of us in a frenzy.

                    Peace and welcome 😀

                  • I am glad you stuck around. I am sorry that you had a bad day- re the park incident. Please don’t let fools like that get to you. I am sure you are doing all you can to help your daughter reach her full potential. You can always find a kind word here and words of encouragement. 😀

                  • Iowagirl says:

                    You know children with speech delays tend to have extremely high IQ,s. you’ll have the last laugh guaranteed. Einstein anyone? Look it up , his mom thought he delayed, he was just thinking before he spoke!

                  • plainviewsue says:

                    Sugar, my youngest son (who is now 22) was speech delayed. I had him in a special program from the time he was 2 1/2 till kindergarten, and then in elementary school he received speech therapy.

                    In December 2011 he graduated from Binghamton University business school with a 3.7 GPA, and he just started an executive fast track MBA program.

                    Stay strong. The blog gets very heated on Mondays, the day after RHONJ, because we get very emotional about this show! I think more so than the others, cos this is family.

              • lilylynn says:

                I have never liked Teresa right from the start. Remember from season 1 when she packed a ridiculous 52 outfits for a 2-day trip? I just thought she was an idiot for that alone. Flipping the table at the end of the first season? <— She's an asshole too. IMO what Teresa wrote in that cookbook was meant as a big fat dig at Carolyn. Just like throwing away Melissa's Christmas cookies was meant as a dig. And when she gropes and climbs over and humps her husband on camera, bragging about their sex life?? That is meant as a dig at his mistress LOL.

      • mrs peabody says:

        no it wasn’t, it was her saying where she does not want her dtrs to work. Simple as that.

    • The Tin Man says:

      Really though, when the mother decides to whore out her children to Bravo for either a paycheck or a storyline, then she is responsible for putting them on the table, so to speak, in the first place. They expose their own children to ridicule and ill will, and then act all enraged when it happens. I think Teresa is low class like her brother and her husband, nasty talking low class, but I also think a stripper car wash is low class, so tomato, tomato.

      • The Tin Man says:

        Well, clearly, I took too long to comment. Holy cow.

      • MM in OC says:

        Exactly! I remember Caroline laughing about how ingenious her son was for coming up with that sexist business plan.

        Teresa’s comments in the book were obviously meant to be taken tongue in cheek.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      I don’t know that kids are off the table, SM, but I would say that if you choose to make comment on children, you are administering a low blow and should be prepared for war. Teresa knew EXACTLY what she was doing – pretending that it was humor or a joke is ridiculous – she was taking Caroline on, and Caroline is right to reject Teresa’s pretense and love, love for her.

      • Grandma Wrinkles' butler says:

        I agree. I do also agree that the Manzo “kids” are adults, putting themselves out there, and, therefore, will be criticized just like any other cast member. However, to me, it was not ok for Teresa to put that in her cookbook because she and Caroline were supposed to be friends at that time. I would never do that to a friend. I was not a joke, it was definitely a dig.

        Although I can’t stand Caroline, Teresa did make digs at her too and to say it’s all just a joke is not something I’m buying. I think Teresa knew Caroline couldn’t stand her and was fighting back. I think Tre should have owned it.

        As many others have opined here, I think Caroline’s hatred towards Teresa goes way back to Caroline thinking Teresa high-jacked the show into the Teresa show instead of the Manzo show. It’s not Teresa’s fault most find her more amusing to watch but Caroline, like Teresa in my opinion, can’t take ownership of anything and has instead decided to blame Teresa for the fact she is not the breakout star. This is just a theory, but I think that it’s human nature for us not to believe we are being awful people so we rationalize what we think or do in order to think we are in the right, so, Caroline hates Teresa because she’s jealous of her and tries to rationalize it by saying it’s about the cookbook, it’s about putting a wedge btw/ her and Dina, it’s about her lies, blah, blah, blah…She is specially trying to rationalize it to the viewing public because she knows no one would accept the real reason of “I can’t stand her because she’s more famous than I am” but that, to me, is what’s really going on. The whole Punta Cana thing, cookbook-gate, and whatever else she brings up is just BS rationalization for her extremely immature reaction to Teresa’s success. This is all just my opinion 🙂

  32. Exit4 says:

    I took to trusty Google to see what I could learn about tabloid writing. I found 2 links, they arent specific to the show, obviously, but it gives you an idea of what the mindset of tabloid writing is.
    My writer friend, who I asked about this, works for a newspaper and had only a little knowledge on the subject. Pretty much, what she told me is in these articles. She did say though, that normally tabloids pay for photos, be it paparazzi types or photo shoots (like a Kardashian wedding or Brangalina baby). They also use pre-exsisting quotes in their articles and present them as if they are part of the story. You can’t do that in newspapers. Had I known the tabloids would have had such a big part in this season I would have kept them! I remember those magazine stories and I know, because I read them, half of those “bad quotes” were things that came straight from the show itself. Meaning, they said it on air. It boggles my mind that they are lying like this. I guess they think we are all too stupid to notice.

    This link is for the entire section of Fabulicious that is causing all the problems. It’s pages 11-14. I am so glad I checked Amazon so I didn’t have to type it verbatim from my copy! I hope it works…

    I couldnt find a link or page 33, so I had to write it myself. Here is the second evil cookbook issue (from the book itself):

    “Guidice Girls Gone Wild”
    “If you just thought about a practically pornographic video series, then shame on you! This is a family cookbook. Unlike some of the other Housewives, I do not condone young girls stripping to bring in business to a car wash, old ladies in hotpants climbing up a pole to bring
    their sexy back or videotaping yourself in any state of undress at any time. I’m old school. I did not live with Joe until we got married. I do my own child raising, cleaning and of course, cooking. But my girls are dying to take over this cookbook, and I promised them at least one chapter, so here we go…..”

    Teresa would have probably been better off had she never put this stuff in the book, but they were all friends at the time so I guess she thought she could joke with them. She was clearly wrong. However, this is nothing to lose your s$%# over. It’s just so dumb!

    • Rebecca says:

      “Unlike some of the other Housewives, I do not condone young girls stripping to bring in business to a car wash, old ladies in hotpants climbing up a pole to bring
      their sexy back or videotaping yourself in any state of undress at any time. ”

      This isn’t a dig at Chis, this is a dig at Caroline.

  33. plainviewsue says:

    Oh how I would love to know Lynn’s thoughts on last night’s episode………………………

  34. Exit4 says:

    Someone mentioned it above and I noticed it too…Kathy’s cheshire cat grin after the hottub talk. She’s a wolf in sheeps clothing. Im not a huge Melissa fan, but to her credit, she had a look of horror, embarressment and pretty much “Oh Lord make it stop” the whole fight. She didn’t seem to enjoy it.

  35. ATLnNYC09 says:

    Kathy is jealous of Teresa, there I said it. I feel so much better now. She probably has always been jealous of Tre. She behaves just like a jealous cousin. Teresa isnt very smart so she doesnt pick up on it. Its very clear to me (and alot of other people on this blog). She aligns herself with Caroline, the person that hates Tre the most, just about the same time that Tre and Melissa seem like they are on the mend.

  36. not THAT Jill says:

    Hey VV…it’s up…nine long pages!!!!

  37. Sam says:

    I haven’t read the comments yet, so forgive me if I’m repeating what someone else has suggested. But I have a theory regarding why Tre says she only got paid for one cover. Others have said she got a multi-cover contract, and if this contract was like my multi-book contracts, it could easily have given Tre the impression that she was only being paid for one picture, especially if all of the cover photos were taken in one photo session or in a series of shoots that took place during a compressed time period.

    • I think you might be on to it. Teresa probably got one check but was committed for more than one cover. For all we know, it could have been struck in the same deal as the one she did with Jac since I am sure they both had different manages negotiating for them. Just like all not all HW get paid the same.

      • Sam says:

        It would be interesting to find out if they have different managers and just who those managers are, because that might be fueling the jealousy. There are hierarchies when it comes to agents and managers, and if Tre has a “better” one than the other women, I can’t imagine them taking it well.

        And on a related subject, Harper’s ‘It Books’ imprint (which will be doing Caroline’s book) is definitely not “upper tier” when it comes to publishing hierarchies.

  38. VV says:

    Worth repeating what Carolina said:

    “Teresa wants it all, and I think that the demands she put on him let him to make decisions that weren’t the best and I think he resents her for it, and he’s going to pay the ultimate price for it. Prediction: Something may happen where someone has to go somewhere. Teresa’s going to have to pull herself up on her bootstraps and take over. She’ll say: You know what, I tried. I stood by him, but I have to divorce him now and I’m gonna show my daughters what it’s like to be strong and independent on your own and survive. There’s a book there somewhere. You heard here first”

    ( Uttered with a Smirk on her big ugly Bitter Clown face)

  39. VV says:

    The Manifesto is up!!! The Manifesto is up!!!

    • MelTheHound says:

      Since she slept through most of the episode what does she have to say about it?

    • plainviewsue says:

      LOL!!!!! And it is a true manifesto. So it was this time last year when they knew something was wrong w/Nicholas. Teresa (surprisingly as Jac wrote), along with everyone else agreed to not say anything. Yet Jacq waits until NOW to release the story; close to the end of this season. In July of last year Albie gives the interview about BLK Water helping an autistic child.

      Comments on the People Magazine site have questioned why she didn’t acknowledge this sooner. It must have been too difficult to announce, but you have to wonder again, how she found the time to tweet and attack Teresa so viciously in her blogs.

      This whole season has been just horrible. So looking forward to NY tonight. Even at their worst, they are so much more enjoyable than this trainwreck to watch.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      And this is the thing I dont understand about Jaq. She is dealing with a serious issue with her child and family and yet her blog is 9 pages long. Her blogs are always the longest. She had the time and resources to be a real advocate for her son but she devotes energy on Teresa, she has the whole season. She went on a week long trip to California while she knew something was wrong with her child.

    • mrs peabody says:

      need I ask what you are talking about, I bet it’s Jacq’s blog

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Ride on, our brave VV Revere!!! giddy-up!

  40. MelTheHound says:

    Good afternoon folks. The Hound and I send our regards to those of you in harm’s way. Not that any of you need a reminder of this but, reminding anyway, it’s not always That the wind is blowing, it’s What the wind is blowing 😉

    The episode… If you really care what I thought of it, head back to last night’s let’s chat. No need to repeat it.

    Everyone keeping this new site alive, thank you. I still look forward to reading the blog and am quite happy to see it all continue. Fine job people.

    • VV says:

      😦 I can’t do Chat Jeff. I use my phone almost always at Chat the print is too small and it overlaps what I type. I know I’m missing out. Don’t forget us on the blog…

  41. plainviewsue says:

    Interesting how, all of a sudden, Caroline, after last night’s bloodbath, is actually getting some positive comments on her non written blog. Still is mostly negative, but previously there were hardly any good ones. Bravo’s gotta make sure her book sells to get her profits!!

    Andy is back on vacation & back on twitter.

    • RHOFrance says:

      Same question here but for Caroline & Kathy. I didn’t read comments on their blogs for almost a year because it was always positive comments. Not possible, it’s internet right ?! I read them again when i saw Bravo was changing the form of their site (i don’t know how to tell that : the plateform maybe ?). There were a lot of negative feedback for all housewives, RHONJ, RHONY etc… I must admit i didn’t read the comments but after the messy episode, i was hungry for them. How disappoint was i reading that same old bullshit “Kathy, you are so sweet”… Even if it’s true, am i supposed to think that aaaaaaaaaaaalll the internet is unanimous ? How can this be ? I have a president here who would like to know how to have 100% of people who are happy with him. I would love to offer him a magic potion for his birthday.

  42. plainviewsue says:

    •They waited 8 months for their insurance to clear them to see a specialist, which was followed by the official diagnosis from a family doctor.

    I saw this on another blog regarding the Jac’s People magazine story. So let me get this straight. They see that their child definitely is having issues. Yet they wait 8 MONTHS to get him into a specialist????

    This is your child. Pay cash. Charge it. If you don’t have the cash, ask the godfather Al Manzo or his wife the Don, for the money. I never heard of an insurance company taking 8 months to clear a visit to a specialist. Would the type of doctor be a child neurologist? I don’t know. What kind of insurance do they have?

    It all sounds very very strange. Someone on the blog mentioned a tweet that Jac had tweeted awhile back. She tweeted that now that Nicholas is in preschool, she will start writing her beauty book.

    Don’t want to come of cynical, but it just all seems very odd.

    • Mary E says:

      Insurance company aside. Pay for it. Sell the house, the cars. Stop buying all that makeup, Jacq. Add the blowouts and manicures, clothes, trips. Her parents wouldn’t help?

    • What kind of insurgence to they have? I have an HMO and even we get approval before 28 days.

      I know with our daughters current neuro, he wasn’t in network with anyone so we had to pay cash and get reimbursed. The first visit was a little under $500 with $140 for follow ups. I also know that for a speech evaluation, it’s about $500 if someone was paying out of pocket. (at least here in CA). It seems like the big expense would be an MRI- especially because they would probably have to sedate Nic which would require a team. But there is NO WAY I can see that taking months to get an approval for.

      • plainviewsue says:

        Rabble, it all doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless, because Chris is an independent employer, they didn’t have insurance? I don’t know, but for my child, I’d sell a kidney rather than wait almost a year for a diagnosis.

        Something doesn’t make sense.

        • I don’t get it either. Maybe she meant that it has taken 8 months to get EVERYTHING in place but it’s been a gradual process. I suspect they might be doing the gluten -casein free diet with Nic, my guess it that came last.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      And stop worrying about Teresa. She still mentions her name multiple times in her blog. Leave her alone and focus on your children.

    • lilylynn says:

      On what other blog did you read about them waiting 8 months to see a specialist? I’m certainly not going to bash them on some heresay. They bought Ashlee a car, plane tickets, etc., and I really, really don’t think they would hesitate to pay cash for medical needs of their son. Really now.

      • plainviewsue says:

        Sorry. It was a direct quote from the People magazine article, which she consented to.

        • lilylynn says:

          Did you read the People story yourself? I have not. You stated above “I saw this on another blog regarding the Jac’s People magazine story,” so it sounded like hearsay to me.

    • PrincessPindy says:

      I paid $2000 to see the “go to” psychiatrist to get my son tested and that didn’t include travel and hotel. A lot could have been done for him in those 8 months!!!!!!!!!! Ri.dic.u.lous!

    • trudie says:

      Agreed. When my daughter had to drop out of college for a semester, our health insurance wouldn’t cover her because she was no longer a full time student. Pissed me off because she had to drop out of school because of illness, so what’s the point of having insurance. Anyway… we covered all her bills out of pocket. There wasn’t a moment when we questioned our decision. That’s what you do for your child.

    • Rebecca says:

      The Lauritas are a multi-million dollar family. They waited for 8 months to save $500 on a doctor’s visit. Bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. cc101 says:

    Thank you so much to NMD for organizing the blog and everyone else for writing such great reviews. Love the fashion write up!

    I think that this is probably not a popular opinion in these parts, but I just do not like Teresa. I find her to be self-centered, jealous, and a ‘my way or the highway’ type. I did however used to like Caroline, but she is just a mess this season. I honestly think that Caroline just plain doesn’t like Teresa. Just doesn’t want to be friends with her or have in her life, so she jumped on the first thing that should could (the cookbook) and made it into something bigger than what it was. I would respect Caroline so much more if she just said she doesn’t like Teresa’s character rather than tried to make something out of nothing, which is exactly what this is.

    Anyway, i’ll stop now in case i’m offending anyone….plus I just read above that the manifesto is up (lmao – i LOVE that you guys call it that, too funny) so i need to hurry up and read it. nap time will probably end in about half an hour and I might be cutting it close.

    Have a great day everyone.

    • BB says:

      CC101 Please don’t worry about offending anyone by stating your own opinion. Love your statement about naptime ending. I remember those days. Lol.

    • I agree with what you said. Teresa kind of said something similar in her blog- they are not giving me anything to apologize for. They don’t like the person I am. How am I suppose to apologize for that.

      They can be over Teresa, that is fine, I think they would get more support if they just said that T gets on their nerves rather than all this ‘read between the lines’ business.

    • MelTheHound says:

      Don’t be shy about adding your 29¢ to the discussions. Just remember the golden rule around her (though it does get broken at times), be respectful to each other. No offense taken by this Teresa fan, I know she has her faults and it doesn’t bother me to see them spelled out here.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Feel free to post your opinions about Teresa (and anyone else for that matter). What’s great about this board is we can agree to disagree respectfully.

      And, yes, I agree that Teresa is extremely self-centered.

      • cc101 says:

        Awww – you are all so nice and welcoming. thanks guys. It would be a boring world if we all agreed about everything.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      I dont know about anyone else but I started out not liking Teresa but I hate bullies and hate conspiring to destroy someone even more. Im really not a fan of Teresa but I know what its like to be victimized by mean and hateful people that gang up on someone. Shes damned if she does and damned if she doesnt and, imo she has held up pretty well. I respect a fighter.

      • MM in OC says:

        I honestly think most of the people on this and other sites feel the same way. I couldn’t be friends with Teresa – she would drive me crazy. However, I’d pick her over the bullies any day. As stated previously, this appears to be Caroline’s MO and I’ve never liked her because of it.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Same here ATL. There are definitely things I dislike about Teresa.

        Even though I may not always like her, I damned sure RESPECT her because she IS a fighter. She’s not letting their enormous financial debt defeat her. She’s out there smiling and fighting. She’s not letting Caroline and the rest of them bully her and beat her down. She’s fighting and standing her ground. I gotta respect that. If I go to war, I want her on my team.

        I mean when that bubblehead Teresa said in her intro in the 1st season, “I’m a Jersey Girl. Nothin’s gonna knock me down!” she actually MEANT it!!

        Who knew??!!??

  44. Orson says:

    Okay, I just read Jackie’s “manifesto” and there’s one major criticism I have about that and I fear it’s on a sensitive subject. She talks about helping Nicholas “recover” from Autism. I guess she’s still new to the autism spectrum and getting lots of information from different points of the compass. I have friends with children on the autism spectrum and the bottom line seems to be there is no “recovery” from autism. There is no cure. There is therapy, there are coping tools, but no cure. Autistics are different. That’s not a judgement and it’s not a bad thing. It’s what they are. And mostly what they need is understanding and patience from ‘normals’ (my term). And I’m sorry to say that Jackie and Chris have embarked on a roller coaster trip of disappointments and victories with their boy. It’s not easy to raise an autistic child, but there can be rewards. I wish them all well.

    • MelTheHound says:

      When I saw Recover in quotes, I thought exactly the same thing as the rest of your post. Well said, Orson.

    • Eastbayca says:

      Toni Braxton needs to give her the 411 on autism.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I agree. Well said, Orson.

    • Lulu says:

      The fact that Jaq feels that Nicholas will wake up one morning and be normal is disturbing. It screams high expections of little Nicholas. My nephew is autistic and my idiot BIL and SIL put him in public school with “normal” children. Think that being around “normal” children with cure him. In the mean time he comes home depressed, complains that he has no friends, no one wants to talk to him. It breaks my heart to hear what he is going through because of this stupid ignorance. There are wonderful schools that are geared toward those who are on the autistic spectrum. They thrive in that environment instead of sink. My idiot BIL and SIL think that by sending their DS to a school for “special kids” ——>(I absolutely despise this term!) that he will become worse. I hope Chris and Jaq wake up and embrace him! realize his strengths and weaknesses! Not try to “fix” him.

    • I think when she says ‘recover’ she is talking about some of the issues being resolved. When my daughter first started therapy she had lots of sensory issues, she was VERY tackle defensive. She would FREAK out if her hands were dirty, or if she was placed in sand or the bean pit. She would drool if she was over situated. Now she doesn’t have those behaviors other than being a little sensitive to loud sudden noises but she generally just covers her ears and says ‘that is too loud’.

      At 18 months, her only words were momma, dadda and bubba- followed by hat.

      Now she has an abundance of words, can speak in full sentences although sometimes misses correct us of pronouns and linking verbs..but pretty much just has an articulation delay.

      Granted its been several years of therapy but instead of the gap widening, especially with age. It’s closing.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:


      • plainviewsue says:

        Rabble, see my post above to Sugar. My son, who’s now 22, sounds very similiar to your daughter. Also had sensory issues, along with the speech difficulties.

        His preschool was for speech delayed children, and once he started kingergarten, we couldn’t shut him up. He has been a pride of joy to us, making us proud every year of his life.

        Graduated college in 3 1/2 years with a degree in finance, working and now starting a fast track MBA program.

        You will see, the gap will be closed before you know it!

      • Orson says:

        Rabble, I had no idea. I hope you didn’t find me to be talking out of my ass in my post. If there’s something there I said wrong, please correct me, but kindly? My friend has a high-level autistic 7 year old daughter and a 9 year old girl with asperger’s, Sometimes she’s really challenged and sometimes she can’t help laughing. You might want to check out her blog: and if you’re on FB, she’s set up a page where she’ll put some of the cute things her 7 year old days. It’s called “Heidi Says”.

        • On no Orson, I didn’t think you said anything wrong or were talking out your ass. From what I read in Jac’s blog, it didn’t seem like she thought there was going to be a magic pill that would cure it. No matter how much Albie wants to suggest that BLK stopped stiming behavior in an autistic child. While my DD doesn’t have an autism dx, she did at one time have behaviors that did put her at risk for one. Thankfully, she no longer has those issues.

          I know that Jenny McCarthy’s son supposedly no longer has an autism dx based on his his behavior and sensory issues that placed him on the spectrum being resolved.. But that being said, he still does have neurological concerns, mainly epilepsy which probably explains of lot of the sensory issues he had.

          There are so some behaviors that involved the spectrum that probably can not be helped with most therapy, like talking excessively about points of interest or not understanding sarcasm. but I think a lot of people can have issues with that. Just like I am NEVER going to have a sense of rhythm, it’s just not in me to be developed.

          Thanks for the link to your friends blog, I will be sure to check it out.

    • PrincessPindy says:

      I haven’t read it yet, but from personal experience, she is going to be waiting a long time for him to “recover.”

  45. Lady Chatterley says:

    Have you guys heard that there was a 7.3 earthquake late last night in El Savador? Tusnami warnings in Costa Rica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama and Mexico.

  46. shamrock blonde says:

    thanks so much for the blogs everyone – they were great – LittleNewton, great first blog!! – so many times I posted and neglected to thank Lynn and the bloggers – I wish to change that because you all so deserve the praise –

    I managed to fall asleep during some of the HW drama last night, but I did notice some things – Caroline is a very bitter woman – I know that she has family issues right now (her feud with her sister) but despite her almost angry support of her children, she has to be seriously frightened about their futures – as she apparently has nowhere to unleash this pent up anger – she refuses to even go to a gym and punch a bag – she turns it all on Teresa – she cannot comprehend how Teresa – whom she believes to be an ignorant, clueless and highly unintelligelent person – has made such a success of her life despite the fact that she is facing some truly devastating times – and that right there is where all that anger comes from –

    I was glad to see Juicy do something other than embarrass himself and his wife and children –

    another thing – WHAT is with Albert? He was another one spoiling for a fight – from KFC to the hot tub, he seemed very close to decking someone most of the time – –

    *hugs entiire board really hard*

    thanks NMD – Lynn would be so proud of you – of all of you

  47. Eastbayca says:

    Ohhh Aviva and Carole have started the ball rolling for tonight….
    Carole Radziwill ‏@CaroleRadziwill
    @AvivaDrescher melisobern1 @Bravotv Heather & I had adventures. My Bf was there so we had fun& loved seeing him play at the music festival.

    Aviva Drescher Aviva Drescher ‏@AvivaDrescher
    @CaroleRadziwill @Bravotv no you di-in . I wasn’t talking about normal adventures. U know what I am talking about! Lol

    Carole Radziwill Carole Radziwill ‏@CaroleRadziwill
    @AvivaDrescher @Bravotv So housewife of you to tell me what I think. 🙂 Heather & I had a lot of laughs. #RHONY

    Aviva Drescher Aviva Drescher ‏@AvivaDrescher
    @CaroleRadziwill @Bravotv #RHONY ur accomodations may have permitted for some more fun. Since u were apart from the crazies! Lol

  48. Lulu says:

    Hello All! Hope everyone’s day is going great!

    Thank you NMD, BB, Little Newton “good job on your first blog!!!” Michelle from NY for wonderful blogs. You all make my day 10 times happier if not a bit snarkier 😉

    Last nights NJ was really an episode of “one who flew over the cuckoo’s nest!” What are they arguing over? It’s not the magazine but Mrs Manzo is not letting up to the real issue. Since this magazine/cookbook makes absolutely no sense. Something has happened and sooner or later we will all hear about it. Kinda like the “your garbage” comment Caroline made at Danielle during their first reunion.

  49. 123 says:

    So I guess this means that Caroline won’t say one single thing about Teresa in her book?

  50. AZGirl says:

    Just a few comments and please give me some feedback.
    First, the whole magazine fight has me confused. Big deal. Tre made money on bashing cast mates in InTouch. Joe admitted they were paid. I read that they were paid per issue and that Bravo is entitled to a percentage of that money. Supposedly, Tre had the checks made out to other people to avoid Bravo getting their percentage. This may be the reason why Tre would only admit to being paid for one of the covers. Even if this was true this is between Bravo and the Guiduces.

    Caroline pissed about the cookbook? Who cares? Something else has got Caroline pissed. WWHL last night was stupid. We really did not find anything out. Caroline would not give a specific reason or what it was that Tre said that got her so pissed. There is something else going on here. Guiduces have done something and Caro wants them off the show. Then we have the producer who is friends with Manzos giving Tre and Joe a bad edit and storyline? Give me your thoughts. I am confused.

    • The Tin Man says:

      I’m baffled by the hypocrisy of the whole deal with Caroline badgering Teresa to just tell the truth and own up to what is really going on when Caroline is not telling the truth either, but is instead encouraging us to read between the lines. She won’t even fess up to the real reasons for the feuds with her siblings. If Caroline showed up at the reunion and told the flat out unadulterated truth about why she’s really mad at Teresa, she would go a long way in redeeming herself in my eyes. Until then, I’m not buying it.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        The hypocrisy baffles me as well, Tin Man. Caroline is just SO enraged and offended by how Teresa just lies and will not “own up” to things. Meanwhile, Caroline has YET to own up to having lapband surgery. When asked over and over, she swears it was just plain old diet and exercise. That is just one of many examples of her lies and hypocrisy that come to mind.

        I mean, get off your high horse, Lady, and stop judging Teresa when you engage in the same damned type of behavior!!

        • Powell says:

          Mmmm hmmm. The Starr Jones Plan-Pilates and portion control..Puleeze.

          • AZGirl says:

            Pilates and portion control he,he,he….

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Girl, do not EVEN get me started on Starr Frickin’ Jones!! She used to wear my sh*t out when she was on “The View.”

            One of my girlfriends, who, unlike me, happened to be a fan, sent Starr a very nice E-mail talking about how she was a fan, yada, yada. Starr thanked her.

            They then started talking about her being a role model for young African-American women. Well, my girlfriend (who was getting her PhD in African-American studies at that time. She’s now a professor) suggested to Starr that her use of hair weaves might be sending the wrong message to young African-American girls, and maybe she should try to go natural (At this point in my girlfriend’s story, I told her, “Girl, no you did NOT!!! That is none of your damned business! If that gila monster wants to wear a weave or a wig, let her. What business is it of yours??!!” She said, “Well, I was just trying to be helpful and make her more conscious. I thought we could have an educated dialogue about it.” My response, “You thought you could have an educated dialogue with a narcissistic bitch like Starr Jones who thinks she knows every damned thing and is super-insecure on top of it? Ummm….o.k. You’re a dummy!!” She laughed).

            Well, Starr went ballistic and went into this long-ass rant about how, in Africa, the Queens used to adorn themselves with wigs and such, yada, yada. So, they E-mail fought VICIOUSLY for a while until Starr blocked my friend. ROFL!!

  51. california35 says:

    Happy Birthday, Queen Butter Bean!

    hi everyone, i hope you are having a nice day… thanks for the blogs 🙂

    when is NJ over? i missed it last night but i will watch it tonight. i have not watched much of the season, but with this blog i get interested some times. of course then i regret it, and do a lot of fast forwarding. i do want to watch when Caroline has ger moment with Theresa. is that on last nights?

    i am looking forward to NY tonight. is that when Johnny Depp wannabe will be on? i saw some pictures Bravo posted on FB with all the NY girls and Luanne does not look good. sge finally showed more skin, and know now why. cover up Luanne. disclaimer: i know i am not supposed to criticize the looks, we have no control over that… and i am not bikini or stomach showing ready (lol), but she is so into her looks and class darling, that i couldn’t help it.

    see you guys tonight for the chat, i hope.

    Miss Lynn 😦

  52. Nancy says:

    Re: Teresa’s cookbook. I’m assuming that most people that buy Teresa’s book watch the show
    so they have heard Chris tell the world that he wants to have a carwash with naked girls so
    what’s the big friggin deal Caroline?

    Great blogs today. Thank-you so much. I am missing Lynn today a lot. I loved Monday mornings as she took all of us “Teresa lovers” on by herself. That’s took “balls”. IMHO

    • VV says:

      If I recall correctly, didn’t Chris did an internship at a strip club as part of his research to open the strip car wash? This was during Season 1.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Yes, and BitClown was beaming with pride if I remember correctly. Ok, now put on the monotone macho voice of the Don to read this “who am I to tell him not to pursue his dreams of a stripper car wash? it is what it is. What are you gonna do? If someone doesn’t like it, so be it.”

  53. Nancy says:

    Another high school shooting! This time it was in Baltimore. 😦

  54. Nancy says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY QBB. I hope you are doing something fun. 🙂

    • They didn’t do her any favors. Unless she goes to an in patient rehab, she will be back in trouble in no time.

      • Nancy says:


      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Jenelle is such a Hot Ass Mess. She and Amber are basically the same person in many ways. I think they both have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I think it is irresponsible of MTV to not make therapy and medication (and testing to ensure that the medication is being taken) MANDATORY if they want to get their checks and stay on the damned show.

        These girls need serious help. It’s not just that they are Teen Mom’s. They also have mental illnesses that need to be addressed properly. I mean they are drinking and drugging and running through men to self-medicate.

  55. grandmadebi says:

    happy b-day queen butter bean hope you have a good day. still getting ready for storm. last min clothes and dishes to be done. hubby and i are both stiff and think the coming weather is trying to tell us how aged we really are but we already know. my hubby asked me to put some lotion rub on his back which i did but the fact it is capsation creme didn’t register on my confused mind and so i didn’t use a glove and of course rubbed my rt eye. that will wake you quicker that coffee but it’s not as nice. eye is ok after irrigating with a full bottle of soothe eye drops. i don’t know how many ppl i have told “keep you hands away from you eyes and always wear gloved. oh well, back to work just wanted to say hi to all. my kids are all on their way north and we are in waiting mode. love to all and be safe.

    • trudie says:

      Debi, I know I shouldn’t have, but I laughed when you described putting capsation creme in your eye: “that will wake you quicker that coffee but it’s not as nice!” Too funny!

  56. Nancy says:


    Cinema Paradiso Yo-Yo Ma & Chris Botti

    Let me know what you think of it.

  57. NightLight95 says:

    So the Clown wont talk about her family troubles but is more than happy to state her opinion on Tre’s. Has she commented on this

    • No, I think they are all being quiet about it because the law suit is still pending. I wonder if any of our lawyers here can dig anymore up about it.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Exactly. It’s best for them NOT to say anything about it until the matter is settled. This is another reason I was so pissed that Jac was trying to get Teresa to discuss legal matters on camera. Jac KNOWS that Teresa has been advised by her lawyer NOT to say ANYTHING (especially on damned camera!!). And Jac also KNEW what she was doing when she was listing all of the money Teresa and Joe were allegedly spending and how they were spending it. That was sheer speculation on Jac’s part; it was none of her business; and it could have seriously hurt Teresa and Joe in Court.

    • I found this which shows what county they filed the case in in Fla, but when I tried to check the records it came up empty.

  58. PrincessPindy says:

    Happy Birthday, my Queen!!!!!

    Great job on the Blog. Congrats Little Newton!!

    My take on the RHONJ:


    Saw this little tidbit about Rachel Zoe while checking out NigtLight’s story above.
    Seems Zoe’s empire maybe coming down and her new asst. might be getting a show of his own.

    • Powell says:

      PrincessP they all suck alright.

    • Powell says:

      I like a lot of Rachel’s line. They may need to fine tune what the buyers are looking at. I’m not surprised Jeremy may get his own show. He designed their entire house in a short period of time and I guess Bravo liked what they saw. I just hope Rachel isn’t holding a grudge cause she seems to do that.

    • BB says:

      I like Jeremiah and think they took advantage of him a little. Glad he’s moved on.

  59. Winston says:

    I’m so confused. Caroline wants a private apology but she is bashing Teresa non-stop on the show. She can’t stop talking about how Teresa wronged her but wants a private conversation? I don’t understand her reasoning at all. If you wanted it private then you should have kept the whole situation private to begin with.
    She is upset because Teresa brought up Chris wanting to open a car wash with strippers. She thinks it was a dig at her child? Chris said it so why doesn’t she own it. Her adult children have said some of the worst things about Teresa all season, not once has Teresa made comments about them. Caroline should be far more concerned that her young adult son aspires to open a stripper car wash. I find that more troubling than what Teresa has done.
    She just seems so unhappy and like she carries a grudge way too far.
    My quote for the day for Caroline:
    “When you hold resentment toward another, you are bound to that person or condition by an emotional link that is stronger than steel. Forgiveness is the only way to dissolve that link and get free.”
    If you truly want to be free of Teresa, Caroline, FORGIVE and let go.

    • Powell says:

      Winston I like your quote. There’s no way Caroline will forgive. I don’t think she even understands her rant.

      • Winston says:

        Thanks Powell. She would be so much happier if she did and moved on.
        And that makes 2 of us who don’t understand her rants. She is always contradicting herself, I need to take notes to keep up.

    • The Tin Man says:

      This is so true; Caroline is handing over her power to Teresa by holding on to the bitterness. You forgive for yourself, not the other person.

      • Winston says:

        Yes she thinks she has all the control by refusing to forgive Teresa and it is just the opposite.

      • Caroline is not a very savvy person, nor is she emotionally mature. She is stuck somewhere between “It’s my right to hate whoever I want” and “I will take you down if I hate you.” If she could be gracious, forgive Teresa and give respect to Teresa, perhaps then they could at least be civil to each other on the show. Caroline doesn’t have to like her or be a friend to her, she just needs to learn how to handle Teresa without going ballistic. A sense of humor would help! The way Lisa on BH handled the cast fights and especially Taylor showed what a mature person she is. Teresa is very immature, but there are ways to handle her. Caroline is just clueless and lets her anger take over. Sometimes I wonder what kind of person Teresa is off the show. She loves her children, and is way too loyal to her husband. IMO she appears to be self-centered and overindulges her urges to flaunt her fancy clothes, handbags, shoes, and over the top granite encrusted home. She seems to enjoy her fans and has moments of genuine charisma. Caroline on the other hand is just angry, all the time.

        Telling people what they have to do does not work. You have to modify your own behavior, and what you say in reaction to situations that bother you. Look at how BH’s Lisa behaves. She doesn’t expect everyone to act a certain way. She doesn’t demand that they change. But she does know how to charm her castmates, she has a great sense of humor and she just keeps on going, rarely gets angry. Lisa is my favorite of all the housewives by far.

        • Winston says:

          She is demanding respect from Teresa yet gives none in return. ITA she is very emotionally immature.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Yet, in her mind, she is the Yoda of Franklin Lakes.

          • MamaZ says:

            I would never want my daughter to work at as a stripper at a car wash or anywhere. I would never want my son to own or run a car wash with strippers. And I don’t care what Caroline Manzo thinks.

            • Birdwoman says:

              I am reading between the lines like Caroline told me: She is a jealous, bitter and mean person. She is the biggest diva on this show. Only someone who thinks that they are the top dog will act like this. Good luck with that advice book Caroline!

            • LaineyLainey says:

              I would be so disgusted if my hometown had a horrible business like that. So what would the driver be doing while the car gets washed. eeeeeeeeek

  60. Lisa Renee says:

    Good day to everyone, disclaimer….I have a cold black heart for those of you that don’t know me. QBB i wished you a HB on yesterdays chat blog this morning & wanted to thank you for the chat room. Had the best time in it yesterday. To NMD & BB & MTH & MichelleNY & Little newton (who broke his/her cherry) & everyone else who contributes like Boston’s hysterical pics words are not enough to express my thanks for all your efforts. You are all doing Lynn proud & keeping her spirit going. If I snubbed anyone….. it’s Kathy’s fault or Theresa’s or Jacq’s or Clownzo’s.
    For everyone hunkering down for weather, please please keep in mind most injuries happen post storm. My hubs will be posting pics on his weather site as the weather moves in & yes the village called, they want their kite flying in a hurricane idiot back lol. if anyone is interested. Hugs to all, Lisa

    • Kansas Girl says:

      You’re cracking me up!

    • Powell says:

      I just hope you all are safe Lisa.

      • Lisa Renee says:

        Thanks Powell, we are going to have a PITA event, rain for 40 hours winds 70-90 for a few hours dirty side of storm, always. Farmers will take a hit, that will hurt. I am also very concerned for MS AL & LA. They can not take all that rain, my town can. This my kind of hurricane, I get my drink on & watch mother nature. Chicken Little is the only electrician in a cul-de-sac of Drs & Lawyers & everyone did test run with him. It is very cool. We also have 2 new widows since the last hurricane so checked in with them. Not trying to sound like mother theresa, I am too cranky, except for one, my relationship with them is distant, but we bonded after Ivan. Pray for anything west of Mobile Bay. Thanks, Lisa

    • AZGirl says:

      LR is that similar to my son who is

  61. VV says:

    Auto Tune Blog is up

  62. Not the right time or place says:

    What gets me the most is that is that alot of people on this blog talk about Teresa getting ganged up on but yet it is ok to do to people we don’t even know. Not only gang up but call them hideous names, belittle them etc. Isn’t that the definition of bullying.
    Now I appreciate that Caroline & Lauren should have shut up & walked into their rooms but they didn’t so some flack is warranted and on various media outlets she has already apologised.
    People talk about Teresa’s money HAS she paid her creditors yet, quite sure the answer will be no as it still hasn’t been worked out yet. So yes the woman works Good On Her, she better as her beloved isn’t.
    And they are both teaching their daughters to stay in an abusive relationship no matter. There are just as many divorces in Italy than in Amercia,.Teresa is staying because it suits her.
    I feel kathy was trying to talk to Teresa as she has all season but was getting stalemated. Teresa can only have those that are her soliders no nice people allowed. And she can stop the passive aggressive dips as well, they have all learnt them well.
    And Joe said that they did the magazines and it didn’t matter what was said it is all for the money, now that is good ethics. Love it.
    I am now going to take a Valium & relax (joking)

  63. LuvMyGals says:

    Happy Birthday QueenButterBean! We are so thrilled to be part of your life.

    Martyr Matriarch and her enabling family are too much.I’m not buying into her drama. Lauren seems to be taking the lessons well though. I wonder if Caroline’s boys are so loving and attentive toward her to make up for some sins of their father.

    • The Tin Man says:

      I almost feel sorry for Caroline; I mean I would if I, you know, had a heart. Her anger is so disproportionate to what she says is the source of it. She’s got to be embarrassed, right? Going through menopause does have an effect on cognitive ability, but it doesn’t cause brain damage. Caroline is feeding the wrong wolf and it’s eating her alive.

  64. VV says:

    Melissa ( Auto Tune ) being the snake tha she is, is taking the opportunity on her blog not only to bash Tre but to explain to us viewers that the reason her in-laws hate her is Teresa whispering in her in-laws ears. This girl made a tactical error which is very unlike her. She can fool a lot of people and she has. But her blog Today was an epic fail. We the viewers can see through her BS. We the viewers know that for a MALE ONLY SON in an Italian family is VERY VERY uncommon that they side with the daugther and not the son. Sorry, Mel… nice try though… some migh fall for it but not me…. I’m sure these old fashioned In-laws did not like the fact that you moved in his house before getting married amongst other things…
    She also said she was shocked that Teresa was telling Caroline evil things about her and Kathy. Now if you believe Melissa was shocked …. you also believe in Santa.
    Lastly she called Teresa poisonus. Melissa never intended to get along with Teresa. This is one self absorbed bitch that only cares about herself….

    • not THAT Jill says:

      I love that she is sooo SHOCKED by hearing that Teresa was talking badly about her…really? SHOCKED??? Come on-why would she be shocked by that? Didnt she come on the show with guns blazing b/c of how awful Teresa was to her and Joe? She wants us to believe that she never imagined Teresa would speak badly about her but her husband called Teresa “GARBAGE” on the first show of the season. Why would he do that if they were so friendly that she is SHOCKED by Teresa’s words?? This is why I just can not like Melissa-she came on a TV show to lift the curtain on her SIL life but under the guise that she was trying to heal her husbands relationship with her. She could give 2 shits about Teresa and that’s her business but I wish she would stop saying that she is trying to fix things-she clearly is not. She should have came on and said ‘Teresa is a bitch and I hope she never makes up with her brother b/c I dont like her and I never will”…then I may have ended up a Melissa fan!!!!

    • Powell says:

      She’s never wanted to mend the family relationships.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Just like I am sick to death of it with Kathy, I am sick to death of Melissa trying to play this “oh so sweet and innocent” VICTIM role.

      There is absolutely nothing I could tell my parents about either of my brothers’choice of partner to make my parents turn against my brothers. My parents make up their OWN minds about that kind of thing. If they decide they do not like the person, it is for their OWN reasons.

      Also, for Melissa to act like she has not talked all kinds of sh*t about Teresa and Teresa’s husband is simply laughable. She just could not “believe” it when Caroline said that Teresa was saying all of those nasty things about her!!! …..Ummmm…..Bitch, were you not the same person picking up the phone to talk to Danielle to talk all kinds of sh*t about Teresa (like her personal financial business and LIES about her not visiting your son in the hospital)??!!??…..Yeah, o.k. I thought so.

      The next statement I am going to make is based only on my own instincts and my own opinion. So, please keep that in mind. I know a trampy/trashy girl that has been around the block and wants a meal ticket when I see one. I also know a manipulative snake that knows how to lead a DUMBASS man (Remember, Joey and Teresa are brother and sister. They are not exactly candidates for MENSA) around by the nose and get him to do her exact bidding and turn against those she deems her enemies when I see one. That is all I am going to say about that for right now.

      GMAFB, Melissa!!!

    • plainviewsue says:

      VV, I was boiling over when I read Melissa’s blog. Just because Caroline says it, this is fact. Caroline is truly the godfather over these women. Shame shame on Melissa.

      Teresa showed herself to be the loyal friend last night on WWHL when she said she wouldn’t go after Caroline in Napa, cos she didn’t want to upset Dina or their mom Nettie. I have a feeling Nettie and Caroline aren’t on speaking terms either. I follow Dina, and she and Nettie are always tweeting. I could be wrong, but who knows.

      Melissa contacted Danielle. Melissa admited on national tv she hated Teresa.

      Your last lines said it all VV. Melissa’s intent was never to bring the two families together.

  65. MamaZ says:

    Happy Birthday Queen Butter Bean!

    • Lisa Renee says:

      Thanks Lady C for all you are doing. It is appreciated. Comforted by seeing “lets chat” in the link. Lisa

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