Real Housewives of New York/Watch What Happens Live/Gallery Girls/Basketball Wives LA

RHONY “Vacation, All I Never Wanted” by BB

I’m not going to give a blow by blow description of everything that happened on this episode.  You all saw it or recorded it and will see it eventually.  I just have to say I am pretty disappointed with everyone in tonight’s episode except for maybe Heather and Luann.  Both of them acted sensibly and tried to make things pleasant under very difficult circumstances.

I’m most disappointed in Aviva for gloating to Reid, Russ and Carole at breakfast that the trip had evolved into coed.  In her gloating, she proved Ramonja’s point that having Reid stay there after he brought Aviva down changed the whole dynamic of the trip and she didn’t care.  For two days, all the women had to hear about Aviva, Aviva, Aviva. She constantly talked about herself and how hard it was to get there instead of just enjoying being there.  She constantly had a burr up her butt about Ramonja wanting to have a good time.  I don’t get why she thought Ramona and Sonja should have suddenly “snapped to attention” and followed all her camp counselor rules, regulations and demands once she arrived. They aren’t children although she talked to them like they were.

I don’t get Aviva’s problem with Sonja having a sexual encounter with a man in the house.  At first it was “they” constantly brought men back to the house every night like it was a total orgy every night.  Of course Ramona did nothing of the sort.  Sonja is single and not in a committed relationship, unlike Luann, who Aviva didn’t seem to have a problem with.  It’s almost as if she was jealous of Ramonja because she is just too uptight to let loose herself.  As far as I can see neither Sonja nor Ramona had done anything to Aviva to deserve the way Aviva treated them and talked down to them.  If Aviva watched herself in these last two episodes and doesn’t think she needs to do some serious soul-searching, then there is no hope for the woman.  She gets my vote for the most uptight, rigid housewife on Bravo.

I’m disappointed in Reid for calling Ramona and Sonja “overweight old ladies gone wild.”  Or did he mean to include Heather and Luann in that insult?  Probably not.  I’ll give Russ a pass on agreeing and laughing with him because he doesn’t know these people and he was just trying to be polite.

I’m a little disappointed in Carole.  She had to have known that making a double dinner date with Russ, Aviva and Reid was not going to go over well with the others, especially Sonja and Ramona.  I thought she was smarter than that.  She should not have been surprised by the reaction of the others.  Inviting them after the fact was too little too late.  If I were any of them, I wouldn’t have gone if she had begged me, but that’s how I am.  I felt sorry for Carole when she got nostalgic and sad during lunch and nobody was even aware enough to notice it and get up to see if she was OK.  I think she tried to make everyone happy, but she was fighting a losing battle.

I’m disappointed in Ramona, but not too much so.  She should have just let it go because she couldn’t change things.  Her idea of what the trip was about changed and there was nothing she could do about it.  I give her kadooz for not directly attacking Aviva every chance she got.  She tried not to be directly hostile, although she couldn’t help getting a little dig in here and there and being a little passive aggressive.  She was funny when she googled “White Trash” to see what it meant.  She should have been gracious enough to have gone to the concert that last night for Carole’s sake.  Her excuse that she wanted to come back and pack was lame.

Sonja, Sonja, Sonja.  She looked a little sad and desperate, like she had something to prove, like she’s still a mover and shaker in the social jet set.  Don’t get me wrong, Aviva had everything Sonja said coming to her and more.  But seeing Sonja walk around the house with her ass cheeks hanging out was not a pleasant sight.  I believe Sonja is a genuinely kind and caring person.  Even when she was falling down drunk, she was apologetic to Carole when Carole explained how sad she was during the talk about plane landings at lunch that day.  It’s not fun watching someone in a downward spiral, as Aviva put it.  I just wish Aviva could be more understanding and compassionate towards Sonja instead of being so judgmental.

Luann was not a shit stirrer in this episode.  She seemed to go with the flow and wanted everyone to have a good time.  She was just there along for the ride.  After stirring up the pot to take the spotlight from the Tomas incident off of herself, I think she just wanted to fly under the radar for the rest of the trip.

I like Heather more and more as the season goes on.  She had a right to be upset about the exclusive double date, but knew when to let it go and make peace.  She and Carole became closer on this trip.  It’s nice to see two mature intelligent women bond for a change

It was a nice ending when all the women jumped into the pool, but there will be repercussions from this trip for a long time to come.

Remind me never to get a fish pedicure.  Yuck!

Best line of the night:  “I saw Sonja’s nipples and vagina so much on that trip, I thought I should start petting and feeding them.”  Heather Thomson

So glad this trip is over and the girls will be getting back to New York and their “normal” lives.  It was fun until the judgmental, self-entitled Buzz Kill showed up.  After that not so much.

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Lessons Learned on “Booty Island” by Windy City Wondering

Lesson 1:  You can’t be a good hostess when you have to babysit a raging asshat.

Lesson 2:  You can’t expect everyone to act like they are in Mrs. Charles third grade class on a fieldtrip.

Lesson 3:  Don’t apologize or demand one when you are totally out of line.

Lesson 4:  Heather got it right – it is a me, me, me group and sometimes you have to just take your own me and retreat to a quiet place.

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Live Tweets from the NY HWs

How many times do I need to apologize to aviva ? Never in my life have I tried so hard

Was going to tweet during the last 30 min of #Rhony but aviva is giving me a headache can’t deal

Skinny-dipping is NOT jumping in with your clothes on, people! Trust @SonjaTMorgan to get this one right. #RHONY

Retweeted by Sonja Morgan

The reason was to visit my boyfriend and I should never have invited anyone……except @iamHeatherT .

I don’t judge @ramonasinger or @SonjatMorgan they were in a wine hibernation & on vacation. I like a little animal house. #rhony

I don’t look too elegant right now in my pirate mustache and Capt Jack. See previous pix w/ pal Duff. @duffynyc #rhony

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Watch What Happens Live by Little Newton

Tonights guests were Jenna Dewan-Tatum (wife of Channing Tatum) and Heather Thompson. Heather says that people love her “Holla!!!” I am not one of those people. The bartenders were 2 guys from Chippenales dressed up like pirates in honor of Tomas.

Andy wants to know why the “girls weekend” issue was such a debate. Heather says she doesn’t know why it was such a big deal at all… even though she made it a big deal at one point. Heather says that she didn’t agree with Aviva’s comparison of Sonja and Anna Nicole Smith saying name-calling is not nice but Jenna says she can see some similarities. Eek. The poll question for the night asks whether Ramona and Sonja are white trash. Jenna seems to think that since Ramonja have white trash moments, people might vote yes. Heather does not agree and just thinks they are party girls.

A montage of the St. Barts trip is rolled and Heather says she jumped in the pool to break the ice. Good call, Heather. Tomasgate is brought up and the ladies guess how many times LuAnn said “Italians” when she tried to cover up her time with Tomas. It was only 7 times but I felt like it would be more. So did the ladies. Andy makes Jenna do some “old school” dance moves since she used to be a dancer.

A caller asks Heather if she would ever go away with Ramona again after the trip to St Barts. Heather says yes saying that she found Ramona and Sonja very entertaining and she actually had fun with Ramona. Jenna is asked if she gets annoyed that women throw themselves at her husband and she says no and she’s so comfortable with him that it doesn’t bother her. I really like Jenna and think she and Channing make a very cute couple.

Andy asks Heather if she thinks LuAnn and Tomas actually did the deed but before she can answer, Andy cuts to commercial! When they come back, Heather says that she just saw Luann when she knocked on her door so she doesn’t know but believes Luann’s lie made it a lot worse. She said she didn’t understand the “Italian friends” story but at the end of the day she didn’t want to sell her out and “held the fifth” as Ramona would say.

Andy asks Jenna if she could set Channing up with any real housewife, who would it be? Jenna plays nice and says Heather. Andy then points out that Jenna and Heather worked for P Diddy at one point. Heather says that Diddy was tough, J-Lo was… pretty (she worked for her for 2 years) and Beyonce was amazing. I must say, Heather does have quite the resume!

Andy then wants to know who has the best beach butt on the trip and puts up pictures of each housewives ass which was not very nice as some of them were not flattering angles. Show some class, Andy! He read a tweet from Brandi saying Aviva and Carole had the best beach bodies.

The game for the night was called Ball Sack: White Trash Edition. (Yes really). The ladies put on the Ramona eyes blindfolds and have to reach into the “sack” and guess what white trash item they are pulling out. It was pretty easy.

A caller asks Jenna Marry, Shag, Kill with Justin Long, Justin Timberlake, and Adam Levine. She says Marry-Adam Levine, Shag-Justin Long, and Kill-Justin Timberlake. Jenna was apparently a back-up dancer for NSYNC!

Andy gave his Mazel to a guy who does an anti-masturbation video which is so obnoxious and not even funny. Really Andy? That guy gets the Mazel? How disgraceful. Is it just me or does it feel like a slap in the face that Lynn doesn’t get anything and some idiot on YouTube got a mazel? The Jackhole goes to guys who tried to smuggle monkeys in their pants. Then he shows a picture of the outline of John Hamm’s penis in his pants. Classy, Andy.

Poll results show that 66% think that Ramonja are white trash! Andy does not agree and neither do I!

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What Exactly is that Bug up Aviva’s Rear?? 

Photocaps by Lady C

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Poll

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Gallery Girls episode 5 “I’m Set Free” by LuLu

First off in remembrance of one of the worst days in American history.  My thoughts and prayers goes out to the victims and their families.  We will never forget.  Also a thank you to the men and women who selflessly risk their lives for our freedom.

Angela’s apartment

Angela is stressing out over not securing a venue.  Alex then calls to deliver happy news of securing a time slot at the gallery he works at.  He then informs her that the show is that following Saturday and she has nothing ready.  Surprise surprise.

End of Century “no really”

Claudia arrives at a strange gallery looking for that quick sell item since their sales are still low.  She arrives at “occupy nerd central” only to be disappointed at the lack of what she considers “art.”  Apparently decorated toilet paper and G.I Joes dressed in little outfits is beneath EoC’s standards.  Sucklord the strange gallery owner assures Miss Claudia and Miss Chantal (late arriver) that he has a HUGE following and will sell out.  They discuss a mutual theme to which “Sucklord” decides to create “occupy art??????”

Amy’s antique apartment

Amy decides to host a dinner party at her place and invites all the ladies.  She asks her 14 year old brother to cook the dinner.  Before any of the ladies arrive Miss Chantal and Miss Claudia suddenly came down with colds.  I hope it wasn’t anything too serious!  Kerri is first to arrive (late) and is shocked at the gawdy decor and no friends.  Poor Amy just can’t win!  Once Angela and Maggie arrives they are quick to criticize her for lack of taste.  Daddy furnished the apartment but not for you is the theme.

Sharon Hurowitz “the boss”

Amy oversleeps and arrives very late to a gallery viewing.  Her boss is extremely displeased and once her client departs reprimands her.  I’m curious as to why Amy hasn’t been able to secure a full time job yet?!?!?!

Pennsylvania 

Maggie plans on spending some time with Mom and goes home with her boyfriend Ryan in tow.  Once they arrive Maggie’s mom is quick to offer her room back if she needs it.  She rightfully senses that Maggie is not happy.  Unfortunately, in-fashion Mom badgers the poor girl with constant well intentioned advice.  Later Maggie grows a pair and finally sets up interviews for paying jobs with other galleries.  Unfortunately with the lack of training from Eli’s the 2 years of interning hurts her more then helps.  It’s painfully apparent that she is horrible at interviewing.  I get being nervous, but that never should be portrayed.  She will learn.

End of Century “Occupy Sucklord”

Mr Sucklord (that is his name BTW)  arrives with his “art.”  Miss Claudia is rightfully worried about ruining their “image.”  He assures them that he will bring a huge crowd and they will sell lots and lots of “art.”  He manages to fill the place and does what he said he would they sell lots.  At one point an impromptu “occupy” show takes place in the middle of a gallery prompting a phone call from neighbors.

Angela’s “totally depressing” art show

Angela arrives at the venue and starts hanging her “photo’s.”  All the shots are completely random and she states they are completely “amateurish.”  She voices her insecurities that her friends will hate it.  Overall her work is well received but not one person purchases any of her photos.  Miss Chantel tells her that she doesn’t view “photos” as art.  In the end Angela contemplates whether or not Photography is her “thing.”

Bitter is the coffee

Amy invites Kerri for a cup of coffee.  Only to delegate her “grunt work” to Kerri since she has “senority.” Poor Kerri is immediately overwhelmed since she is working full time in addition to interning.  Later Kerri asks Sharon to clarify what exactly are the tasks.  Sharon never told Amy to dictate tasks to Kerri and has no idea what those tasks are.  She then points out just how childish Amy is.  Amy seems to be sinking – aww, poor girl!

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BASKETBALL WIVES – L.A.

By Detox

To quote the little girl in the movie, “The Poltergeist,” “They’re BAAAACCCKKK!” “They,” of course, are the Basketball Wives based out in Los Angeles. This is their 2nd season, and a little birdie told me that, along with the many familiar faces of the original cast members seen in Season 1, there will be some new additions to the cast. If this season is anything like last season, this will probably be very interesting (Hint: D-R-A-M-A!). Alright, let’s get started.

We begin with Jackie Christie and her husband, Doug, at home in their kitchen. Jackie interviews that, after her Mother’s death (last season), her daughter decided to stay in Washington (State? D.C.? This is unclear) instead of coming back home with her parents. She tells Doug she is devastated that their daughter decided not to come home, and she really misses and worries about her. Doug, who is always so calm and reasonable (the exact OPPOSITE of Jackie, by the way), tells Jackie that she needs to let their daughter go because she will come back. Jackie interviews that Doug has helped her with her anxieties and control issues when it comes to their children.

Jackie then brings up everything that took place between her and her cast mates (a.k.a., “the other girls,” “the other women,” etc.) last season. (Quick Recap: Jackie did a lot of pretending to be everybody’s best friend but talking about each of them behind their backs and manipulating them until many of them turned on one another. Eventually, the other women compared stories and figured out that it was JACKIE who was at the center of 98% of the drama between all of them. They confronted her, and she basically took no responsibility. The other women then basically decided that they wanted nothing more to do with her.).

Meanwhile, back in the present, Jackie tells Doug that, despite everything that happened between her and all of the other women, she misses them. She then says that she feels bad that the women “decided to make up stories.” (O.K. So, I see Jackie is still as delusional as she was last season. I also see how she really thinks that she did not do anything wrong. This is not a good sign of things to come, in my opinion. Something tells me Mrs. Christie will be back to her old ways and getting into it with one or more of her cast mates AGAIN this season.).

Then, Jackie surprises me by admitting that she does bear some responsibility for the way things turned out. She says she knows she was wrong in some ways too (Alright, scratch what I just said about Jackie being delusional. No, better yet, hold that thought – because I STILL think Mrs. Christie, just like last season, will be bringing the D-R-A-M-A). She says she is willing to apologize; however, the other women have to meet her halfway because she does not feel like she is the ONLY one responsible for the way things ended between them.

Doug tells Jackie that one of her problems is that she thinks she can “save the world,” and she CANNOT. He opines that this is what probably led to her getting caught up in the middle of so much drama (Did I mention that I REALLY like Doug? Well, I do. He is such a calm, loving, patient, sweetheart of a man. What I want to know is how did he wind up with Jackie Christie, who is a complete NUT? What I want to know even more than that is why he has CONTINUED to stay with her ALL these years? The only way it makes sense to me is if one of the following happens to be the case: Jackie has threatened to shoot Doug and his entire family if he ever tries to leave her, OR Jackie has compromising pictures of Doug in full makeup and women’s clothing with huge HEELS on his feet, which she has threatened to release to the public if he ever tries to leave her. Otherwise, I just do not get it! Sorry.).

Jackie responds that the other women are WAY too envious of her and everything that she has, and this is probably the REAL root of all of the problems they all had with her (Did I NOT just tell you people that this woman is delusional and crazy? Yes, I did. What Jackie just said is PROOF. I am sure she will provide plenty more examples as the season progresses).

She also says she feels like the women are really missing out on not being her friend because she KNOWS that she can really TEACH them a lot (Oh, Jackie….Girl, what am I going to do with you. Nothing…because it would be futile. *Sigh*).

Next, we see Laura and Gloria meeting. Laura has arrived first and is waiting on Gloria to arrive. For those of you who did not watch last season, Laura and Gloria are sisters who both happen to be in relationships and have children with professional basketball players.

Laura interviews that she now lives in Orlando with her fiancé and their children. She seems to indicate that she also lives in L.A. part of the year. She says she is back in town to handle some business and to catch up with her family and friends.

Gloria finally arrives. Laura interviews that Gloria is a hard person to talk to. She also says she feels like their relationship has been strained over the last year. Gloria interviews and basically says the same thing.

Gloria then, in her interviews, brings up her boyfriend/father of her children, Matt. At the end of last season, Matt and Gloria broke up. Gloria says that she and Matt were broken up for 8 months. She says that, during that time, she learned a lot about herself and what she needs and wants. She says that Matt also learned much during their time apart. So, at this point, she and Matt are back together and “working on it.”

Gloria tells Laura that she has decided to do a cookbook based on the different ethnicities/cultures of both her and Matt. She notes that she is ½ Black and ½ Mexican, while Matt is ½ Italian and ½ Black (That cookbook sounds like it could turn out really, really well….or turn into a bit of a travesty. A travesty would be including recipes like black-eyed peas and ham hock lasagna or chitlin tacos. O.K., people and P.C. Police, before you SHOOT me or call for my head, please know that I am JOKING. Please also know that I am a minority myself so I mean no harm. I come in peace and laughter. No offense. I actually think Gloria’s cookbook idea is a GOOD one. I love the fusion of cultures in ANYTHING. Fuse away, Baby!).

Gloria then tells Laura that she wants to have a dinner party where she prepares and serves recipes that she wants to include in her future cookbook so she can get everyone’s feedback. Laura thinks this is a good idea.

Laura then asks Gloria if she is going to be inviting Jackie to the dinner party. Gloria makes it ABUNDANTLY clear that she will NOT be inviting Jackie to her dinner party — no way, no how. Laura is a little shocked (Why, Laura?), and she encourages Gloria to invite Jackie (Again, why, Laura? Oh yeah, the Producers probably insisted. I get it.).

Like sisters Laura and Gloria, Draya and Malaysia have also decided to meet for lunch and catch up with each other (I will tell you now that Malaysia and Draya are two of my favorites from last season. I hope it stays that way.). Draya interviews that Malaysia looks great (and she does. So does Draya, by the way).

Malaysia tells Draya that, at some point (during the off-season, I guess. I do not even know for what basketball team Malaysia’s husband even plays. So, I am a little out of the loop), she, her husband and her 3 kids went to Atlanta and spent some time there. She says she thought she would NOT like Atlanta, but she actually really loves it.

Malaysia also tells Draya that she is continuing to work on her jewelry line for babies because her first few pieces “sold like hotcakes.”

Draya tells Malaysia that she also has “been working like crazy.” She says she is now hosting parties and continuing to model for urban men’s magazines. Draya says that she also has a new business venture: a swimwear line she will design and sell. This has been her main focus lately. Draya interviews that she is really proud of it.

Inevitably, the subject of Jackie Christie comes up in conversation. Malaysia, ever the calm peacemaker, says she has NO problem with Jackie. According to Malaysia, “If this is just who she IS, we have to accept her AS IS.” (…Ummm…No, you don’t! I do like that you are so sweet, though, Malaysia.).

Draya, on the other hand, feels a bit differently (I do not blame her). She says she will “not be stupid again” when it comes to Jackie.

Malaysia understands the way Draya feels, and she explains that she does not necessarily want to be Jackie’s friend, but she does not have any hate for her. Draya says “Jackie is a wild card.” (Again, I agree with Draya). They both agree that Jackie has 2 sides: a nice side and a straight CRAZY side. Malaysia says that the nice/sane part of Jackie is a cool person to be around. Draya agrees.

Malaysia then says she thinks they all should give Jackie another chance (I love that Malaysia is so forgiving and sweet and Zen. If I were in her shoes, after last season, when it comes to Jackie, I would have had a restraining order put out on Jackie, but….that’s….just….ME.). Draya looks skeptical.

Next, we see Jackie, who has invited her friend Sundy to sit out by Jackie’s backyard pool. She interviews that she simply wants to vent about things.

Once Jackie and Sundy are firmly ensconced on their beach chairs, Jackie starts talking about the fact that she is now persona non grata when it comes to the rest of the women (in the cast). She says that she is not angry – just disappointed. She explains that she is disappointed because she felt like she gave more than the other women (This woman here….oh, my Lord! Yes, Jackie, you DID give more: more sh*t-stirring; more backstabbing; more manipulating; and more lying and refusing to own up to everything you did once you were caught and called out. So, yes, Jackie, you gave MORE. *Sigh*).

Sundy tells Jackie that, as her longtime friend, she knows that Jackie has 2 sides (Try more like 6 or 7, Sundy!). She also tells Jackie to be the bigger person and swallow her pride so she can co-exist with these women (and not get kicked off the show).

Jackie wants to know why SHE should be the one to make up (Because YOU are the one that started all of the mess, Jackie!!). She says she was made to look like “the bad guy” (That is because you WERE the bad guy in that whole mess, Jackie). She feels like the women should ask for HER forgiveness because of all of their lies (I told y’all that the woman is crazy). Jackie says she also wants the women to take responsibility for their part in the problems they had with her (Well, Dr. Phil always says, “No matter how flat a pancake is, there are still always two sides to it.” So, I can see Jackie’s point: The women had a part in that they did not see RIGHT THROUGH your crazy ass! They should definitely take responsibility for that, in my opinion. So, I agree, Jackie.).

Jackie then tells Sundy that she believes that the ROOT of all of the women’s problems with her is plain old JEALOUSY (Here we go again with that jealousy foolishness! STOP IT, Jackie!!). She says they are jealous because she has everything these women want: a good husband, a great family and her own businesses (I agree with Jackie that she does have a very good husband. I am not so sure about that “great family” part because, last I heard, her oldest daughter – who is not Doug Christie’s, by the way – was writing a tell-all book about how horrible of a mother Jackie was. She also often blasted her own mother Jackie via twitter – OFTEN. I have never heard of her businesses. So, maybe they ARE successful. Who knows? If they are, good for Jackie. Despite that, in my opinion, the other woman do NOT care one bit about any of that. They all no longer like or want to be around Jackie for valid reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with jealousy. Please, Jackie!). Jackie also says that she can “teach these girls a lot and help them.” (Whatever you say, Jackie, you FRUIT LOOP!).

Jackie then tells Sundy that she is just emotional because of her Mom’s recent death; her daughter moving out; and the situation with all of the other girls (At this point, I feel sorry for Jackie – but this passes very quickly).

Draya and Gloria meet some place to catch up. Gloria tells Draya that she and Matt took a break for 8 months. She says that, during that time apart, she learned a lot and became much stronger. She is now excited about her future with Matt.

Draya interviews that she does not know how to read Gloria to know whether she is really telling the TRUTH about her relationship with Matt (This is probably because these 2 have broken up more than once and have had the cops called to their home for alleged domestic violence. This is also probably because Matt was allegedly seeing Eva Longoria on “the low-low” while he and Gloria were broken up. I personally think Matt went running back to Gloria as soon as Eva dumped him, but that’s just me. He and Gloria will probably get married, and I cannot seem to find it within me to care at all, not even just a little bit. Shrug). Draya then interviews that she will just take Gloria at her word about how great their relationship is (In other words, Draya’s attitude is, “If you LIKE it, I LOVE it!” In short, like me, she does not really give a damn either, and she will let Gloria say whatever she wants to say about her own relationship. Draya is my kind of girl.).

Gloria then tells Draya that, when it comes to her and her sister Laura, they have each been very busy and have not seen or talked to each other that much in a while.

Gloria also tells Draya that she is still trying to do the acting thing. Draya says she is now more into hosting parties, as opposed to acting (Gloria and Draya actually met in an acting class last season).

Not surprisingly, Jackie Christie’s name comes up. Draya tells Gloria that Jackie is a good motivator because she is a good manipulator. She also says that Jackie has tweeted her since they saw each other last. Gloria thinks this is weird (and so do I). Gloria says that Jackie is delusional (I agree).

Draya then tells Gloria about her meeting with Malaysia. She says that Malaysia recommended that they all should give Jackie another chance. Gloria disagrees. She says she loves Malaysia, but she is going to have to disagree with her on this one (I do not blame Gloria one bit). Gloria says she STILL does NOT like Jackie because Jackie went out of her way to destroy several friendships. Therefore, she has NO plans to befriend Jackie ever again (Smart Girl).

Next, we see that Draya has invited one of her acquaintances (and new cast member), Brooke Bailey, to meet her at a store of some kind (I cannot tell what kind of store it is, though). She interviews that she is acquainted with Brooke because they were both “video girls” and “urban models.”

Brooke interviews that she dates a basketball player by the name of Bernie Macklin. She says she met Draya through “the industry,” and she just loves her. She also says she is going to continue her modeling career.

Draya interviews that she thinks she and Brooke will “get tighter and tighter as time goes on” (This is probably some type of foreshadowing, which means that Draya and Brooke may just become mortal enemies and try to kill each other. I sure hope not, though. They truly do look like they like each other at this point). She also says she wants to see how the other women will react to Brooke because Brooke is both attractive AND unmarried.

Brooke tells Draya that because of what they do to make money (appearing in urban music videos and appearing in urban men’s magazines), many other women make bad and incorrect assumptions about them.

Draya tells Brooke that, when she met her cast mates and for a long time period afterward, they were very cruel to her (This is very true). She also tells her that she wants Brooke to meet them because of their good business ideas and business experience. Finally, Draya tells Brooke about her new bathing suit/bikini line on which she is working.

Malaysia says she is going to call Jackie and invite her to meet and talk one-on-one because, “Everyone deserves a second chance.” (This is why Malaysia is one of my favorites out of the cast. Despite how much I like her, I still wish I could be standing outside her vehicle window, waving my arms and screaming, “Put that phone down, Malaysia!!” I know those darned Producers are probably behind all of this!). She calls Jackie, and Jackie sounds really surprised that Malaysia has called her. Malaysia asks Jackie if she would like to meet that week so they can just talk one-on-one. Jackie tells Malaysia that she really appreciates Malaysia’s call, and she agrees to meet with her.

Malaysia interviews that she hopes that, after everything that took place last season, Jackie has learned how manipulative she was. She wants to see if Jackie has changed and is now in a better place (My guess is “NO” and “NO.”).

Meanwhile, back in Draya-Land, Draya has invited Brooke over to her house to try on some bikinis from her new line. Once Brooke gets there and takes a look at Draya’s bikinis, she compliments Draya on her work. Draya tells Brooke that she asked her to come over to model Draya’s bikinis because she wants to see if her bikinis support “big boobs and big ass.” Draya interviews that she knows that she has “tits and ass”; however, in her opinion, Brooke has “jugs and booty” (which, by her facial expression, I take it that Draya means that Brooke’s breasts and bottom are SUPER-SIZED)!!

Brooke comes out in separate bikinis to show Draya. Draya interviews that Brooke looked “amazing” in her bikinis (And I agree. This woman’s body is SLAMMING!). She says, “If Brooke wears my bikini to a pool, she will turn heads, and I will LOVE it.”

Once Brooke finishes her “modeling,” Draya tells her that she is launching a website for her bikini/swimsuit line, and she invites Brooke to be there when she does the launching. Brooke agrees.

Finally, it is the day of the Malaysia-Jackie Summit. Malaysia is waiting for Jackie to meet her at a coffee shop (“Malaysia, you in danger, Girl!”). Jackie arrives and they greet each other warmly.

Once she sits down, Jackie tells Malaysia that she truly missed her tremendously. Malaysia tells Jackie that she invited Jackie to meet with her because she feels bad about the way things ended between all of them and Jackie. She tells Jackie that she does NOT hate her. She also tells Jackie that she does not want to talk about the past. Instead, she wants to talk about the present and fix Jackie’s broken relationships with everybody else. Malaysia then tells Jackie that she has been trying to encourage the other girls to forgive her.

Jackie tells Malaysia that this brings tears to her eyes, and the tears are both tears of joy and tears of sadness.

Malaysia tells Jackie that it looks like Jackie is in a different space now; however, Jackie NEVER owned up to her past behavior. Jackie responds by telling Malaysia that she is JUST learning how to interact with all of these women because, before this, she had never hung with a group of girlfriends (I can tell). She only hung out with her husband, her kids and her family. Malaysia tells Jackie that if she would simply say what she JUST said to her to the other girls, it would probably help the situation. Jackie then admits that she has an anger problem. She also says that she will tell all of the other women that she is SORRY. Malaysia interviews that she is hopeful (I’m not).

Malaysia then tells Jackie about Gloria’s dinner party for her upcoming cookbook. She advises Jackie to show up at the dinner party. Jackie wonders how she will be received (So do I.). Malaysia tells Jackie that she has to be “the bigger person” and show up despite her apprehension. Jackie says she will give it her best shot.

Draya has invited both Brooke and Gloria over to her house so she can introduce them and launch her website. She wants them to be there because she just wants a small celebration of getting her website up and running.

Once Brooke and Gloria arrive, Draya introduces them to each other. Gloria interviews that Brooke has a HUGE booty, and she is jealous. She also says that she had to keep herself from smacking it. Brooke interviews that she think Gloria is “cool.”

Brooke and Gloria then watch Draya try to launch her website. They each look at Draya’s web site and advise her on it. Draya then launches the website, and Gloria opens a bottle of champagne so they can celebrate. Draya interviews that she is very proud to now be an independent person who makes her own money. She says it gives her “a good feeling.” Draya also interviews that she wants to see how Jackie will react to Brooke once she meets her. Gloria and Brooke seem to have hit it off, and Draya looks pleased.

Finally, we are at Gloria’s house for the taste-testing dinner party. Gloria interviews that she is having her dinner party with just her cast mates (except for Jackie) so they can taste her recipes and offer her honest feedback for her upcoming cookbook. Everybody in the cast, including newcomer, Brooke Bailey, is there except for Jackie.

Gloria tells the women that she wants their HONEST opinions about the food. She also says that cooking is one of her favorite things to do. As they are eating, members of the group compliment the food and really seem to be enjoying themselves. They also appear to be giving her very honest feedback.

Brooke asks Gloria how many nights she cooks a week, and Gloria says 4 or 5. Brooke then says she will now be visiting Gloria on those 4-5 days out of the week from now on.

Meanwhile, we see Jackie walking up to Gloria’s front door (*Cue the theme from “Twilight Zone”). She rings the doorbell, and Gloria asks Draya to get the door. The door opens and, TA DA, it is Jackie Christie!!

Gloria is NOT happy about this, and her unhappiness is written all over her face. Once Jackie walks in and greets everyone, Gloria tells Jackie that she is very surprised to see her.

Jackie then prepares a plate of food for herself and joins the group in eating without saying a word. The other women follow Jackie’s lead and do not say a word either. Draya interviews that no one said anything because they were waiting for Jackie to speak first.

Finally, Malaysia stands up and tells the group that SHE invited Jackie. She then tells them that she thinks they can all get over the B.S. because, in her opinion, Jackie is in a different space now. She also says that Jackie has agreed to apologize (Jackie has a look on her face like, “No I didn’t.” Yes, you did, Jackie. I HEARD you. It is also on film. Here we go again!). The show ends with this look from Jackie to Malaysia as she has just made her announcements.

Preview of the Upcoming Season

Based upon the previews of the entire season, it looks like it will be an action-packed season filled with the following: fun; fights; trying new things; Jackie’s yearly “wedding” to her husband (She has done this every single year since they got married); a deep talk between sisters Gloria and Laura; Draya and Brooke getting into an argument; a NEW woman who, it turns out, was dating the SAME guy as Brooke (Oh God!); and a fight between Jackie and Draya (TOLDJA SO!!!).

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Remembering 9/11/01

We shall never forget
We shall keep this day,
We shall keep the events and the tears
In our minds, our memory and our hearts
and take them with us as we carry on.
(From 911-Remember.com)

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And finally, the LynnFam wishes a very happy birthday to our friends, Jillz and Maryla.  Enjoy your day, Ladies!! 🙂

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  1. COCFarm says:

    first?

  2. COCFarm says:

    Whoot whoot! Hi all. sorry I haven’t been around or even had a chance to do much skimming of the blog. Nutty days here and some of them weird nutty. But happy birthday to all those that I’ve missed and hope everyone is well.

    Also, was at a conference last week that took me through Lake Zurick every day. Got teared up thinking “Lynn regularly drove these roads.” Wanted to post then but time got away. I threw a few positive thoughts and prayers from the group out into the wind as I drove through. Just wanted to you all to know you were thought of while in the “Land of Lynn.”

  3. Lady Chatterley says:

    So much fun content today – thanks so much to BB, LuLu, and Detox for contributing your talents to today’s blogs. Being on this side of the blog allows me to see just how much of a team effort this little enterprise is. You guys are so awesome – I know that Lynn is proud of her little fam down here! 🙂

  4. COCFarm says:

    Oh, and of course, remember where I was this day 11 years ago. My thoughts are with anyone who was directly effected by the events of this day. It is a gorgeous morning in Chicago. Just a beautiful day as it was this day 11 years ago. But life goes on…chickens need tending, veggies need picking but positive thoughts to all.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      So true, isn’t it? And it was a Tuesday, wasn’t it?

      My thoughts also are with all of those who lost loved ones in that terrible attack. God Bless this wonderful country of ours.

      • Mary E says:

        Thank you both for your comments. I live in NYC and work in midtown, lost several friends in the attack. It seems so quiet here today—strange.

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          Hugs to you, Mary – my colleagues in DC say it’s quiet there, as well.

        • Lisa Renee says:

          Mary, since the attack every year the city “gets quiet”. A very odd sentiment when talking about NYC. I am sorry for your loss & appreciate you staying strong & helping to keep the city moving forward in those first few days to this day. Lisa

      • kit9 says:

        It was a Tuesday.

      • COCFarm says:

        yep, it was a Tuesday. I was home that day which was odd. Is soon as I saw the second plane hit, I started calling everyone I knew who was near the Sears building in Chicago saying we were going to be next. I figured the Sears had to be on the hit list.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Beautiful day here in Austin, TX – – yes, just like 11 years ago, too. I second your “positive thoughts to all”

      • Contessa says:

        My thought and prayers from Arizona…for everyone involved in 9/11. I can’t believe it’s been 11 years. My heart is still heavy remembering that horrendous day, and sitting in tears watching it all unfold on TV, feeling helpless and grieving for all who were lost, injured and directly affected.

    • disgrazia4 says:

      I’ll always remember this day, and it happened on a Tuesday. I no longer live in NY but my heart is still there. Posted this song today on my FB wall. Dan Bern is a gifted storyteller, an American Folk Poet.

      • RHOFrance says:

        Hi everyone.
        Thoughts for the anniversary, as usual. Hard one to forget. I will always remember where i was and i much i thought it was a film they played on the giant screen at work. Couln’t belive it then, needed 15 minutes to understand it wasn’t a publicity stunt from my store they began when i took my pause. Still have a hard time getting over it now and i can’t detach my eyes when i watch Die Hard 3 or any other movie from those buildings. I will always remember those images from reportages with the “dirt smoke” (how don’t know the words, so sorry) and the screams. The fear.
        But first and foremost, i will always and forever remember Jon Stewart words after that and i will almost cherisch them, the most beautiful, the most open ever one spokes (or the most beautiful i heard) after this real catastrophy : “But you know what the view is now ? The Statue of Liberty. The view from the south of Manhattan is the Statue of Liberty. You can’t beat that.” I chocked and i chock now. It’s the most wanted and beautiful symbol of the american dream ever, the most beautiful and wanted view for millions of people who came to your country to help built it and honor it. Those sociopaths wanted to hurt you and they did, badly. But all is remaining now : they opened the view for everyone who could have forgot it : USA are, and will stay (or will be again, depends the point of view), i hope, the land where mad dreams are made possible.On this day, all my condoleances to everyone that suffer a loss, from the twin towers or pentagon or the ones in Shanksville and i wish you the best again, thanks to everyone who helped that day, they are the most valuable people on earth : the selfless ones.

        • trudie says:

          (((RHOFrance)))

        • COCFarm says:

          Wow. Hugs to you. Wow.

        • Lisa Renee says:

          RHOFrance, It is always nice to hear from our European friends. That was just lovely. As far apart as we all were from each other when tragedy struck, that day as well as today we were all neighbors. Lisa

        • LaineyLainey says:

          RHoFrance: merci. Beautiful words to go with a beautiful sentiment. thanks.

        • Ça va says:

          And thanks to France for the wonderful gift of Lady Liberty. Our ties run deep with your beautiful country. Had it not been for France there might not be a USA. All Americans who love their country must also love, and feel a debt of gratitude to, la belle France.

        • Thank you RHOFrance, what you wrote was beautiful. We could see the smoke from our street here in NJ, it was a horrible day. My next door neighbor lost her brother, another neighbor on our street lost her husband. My son’s best friend (they were in 1st grade in 2001, met a few years later & are still close buddies) lost his father. His little brother was just a baby, so he never got to know his dad. As hard as this day is for me, I cry every year thinking about how hard it is for the victim’s families. My friends that lost loved ones told me that the only way they could cope was that they had to, for their children’s sake.

          The terror was very real. Later in the day, fighter jets were flying over head. Anything in the air was very scary, because all commercial flights were stopped that day. When those jets flew overhead (I live in NJ, south of NYC just about 30 miles as the crow flies) the house actually rumbled.

          My neighbor across the street has a husband in the Navy Reserves, and she told me that all night the train tracks from Naval Weapons Station Earle in Colts Neck NJ (just south of us) were taking weapons & loading them on a Navy ship in the NJ harbor, in Middletown. She was very afraid, because she knew what was being loaded. I’m glad I didn’t know then. No one knew if there would be more attacks, so many preparations were being made to defend NYC.

          The smoke lasted for days. We were lucky it was blowing mostly east, out to sea. It took awhile before I could go into the city, but we wanted to support the Broadway shows, and businesses there. Does anyone remember the first time Saturday Night Live came back on? Mayor Giuliani was on. It was so good to see that they would not let the terrorists win, we wanted things to get back to normal as fast as possible.

          Prayers to all who lost loved ones that terrible day, we will never forget.

          Please pray for all our armed services that they will be safe, where ever they are. And for all who have given their lives defending freedom, God Bless America.

          • NJBev says:

            Ahhhh….Blue.
            I remember it well.
            Love you, always will.

            My H. was there.
            another unique story he has. His own.
            We all remember
            the HUGE flumes of smoke.. that contained the ashes
            of our loved ones.

            I must say that I will never understand why our
            countrymen from Oklahoma and the tragedy there
            is not given the sane recognition.

            I will say that none of it makes any sense.
            God Bless America.

  5. BB says:

    Happy Birthday Jillz and Maryla. Have a wonderful day.

  6. cusi77 says:

    Happy Bithday Jillz and Maryla, have a great day ladies!

  7. Good morning everyone..on Tues my DD has to be at school at 7:45 so I have been up for a while. Happy Birthday to the birthday girls. Many thanks for this mornings blogs.

  8. WindyCityWondering says:

    There is joy in birthdays, sorrow in remembering 911 and we all do our best to carry on in a positive manner. Thank you to everyone who is here because you help keep Lynn alive in spirit and in a special place in all our hearts.

    • T-Rex says:

      That’s so sweet! I am going to use that first line if you don’t mind. It’s the DHubs birthday today and he some times gets sad because he wants to celebrate his day, but now it’s also to honor those that lost their lives that day and those that are missing those that were lost.

      • TRex… Happy birth day to your hubs.
        Happy Birth day to JillZ and MaryLa … Enjoy your day.
        Prayers to All on this somber day in History….
        God Bless America !!!!!

        Off to open the “office”…. B . O . R . I . N . G . But it’s a job…..

        Hugs and Peace
        Diva

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        T-Rex – please use it – today is my favorite cousin’s birthday and it has been hard for her to celebrate because of the sorrow from 911….. she has a hard time being happy too.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Happy Happy Birthday to your hubby – – -I hope he finds joy in knowing that his life is precious to you and those who love him!!!! It’s like the Jimmy Stewart movie, “it’s a wonderful life”,…. the world wouldn’t be the same without him.

  9. scorpiosue1102 says:

    Happy Birthday ladies!

    May we remember all those that we lost 11 years ago today.

  10. LuvMyGals says:

    It’s really bad when you’re glad you weren’t on a vacation, not even the recapped vacation! This may be getting to be too much for me. But if that’s what it takes to hang out with the LynnFam count me in. Thank you to all of you keeping the blog going. It’s obvious to see that you’re pouring so much love into it and so many of us love you for it. Mmmmwaaah! Mmmmwaaah!

    Happy Birthday JillZ and Maryla!
    Thank you to all of our military and first responder families. Heroes among us.

  11. BB says:

    My thoughts are will Jill, No Not That Jill’s husband and his co-workers who are remembering their fallen comrades today and to all those families who lost their loved ones on 9/11.

  12. Maryla says:

    Thanks for moving the blog over. I was so shocked about Lynn’s passing and then to read of the fights and aggravation the site caused her made me sad. Anyway, my first time posting here.. Fittingly on my birthday ;-). thanks for the happy wishes. I have been reading and following.

    Anyway, still a fan of RHONY — especially now that she who shall not be named is gone. It seems to me though that Aviva is disturbingly self-centered and deluded. Something hubby Reid either puts up with–or even feeds. Adiva (love that!) has now mentioned at least four times across 2 episodes that she was expecting some sort of grand welcome, a banner, a red carpet, a party, etc. The other women are missing her (not so subtle) tantrum and I think that makes her seethe, compounding and exaggerating her desire to be at the center of attention.

    So anything that anyone does that gets the attention of the other women becomes Adiva’s target–ie, she resents Sonja’s sluttiness because Sonja could have been using that time and energy on painting that banner. She resents Ramona’s drinking because Ramona could have spent her time planning a party, finding a red carpet on St. Barths, etc.

    It seems that she has lived a very, very sheltered life. You can’t be that afraid of life and be successful in NYC. How does she make it across the street each day? I mean, a bus might run her over; or taxi or car service may have germs, criminals might jump out of allies, etc. My guess is that she is exhausting as a partner/spouse.

    • mardrag26 says:

      Maryla…love your post! It made me laugh!
      “she resents Sonja’s sluttiness because Sonja could have been using that time and energy on painting that banner.” Epic!

      Look forward to more of your witty comments!

      • Contessa says:

        Sonja could have also used that time to invite “Adiva’s horny old viagraed dad” to St. Barth’s! Then she would have been on Adiva’s popular list.

    • scorpiosue1102 says:

      Right on!

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Ha! This whole post made me laugh out loud. Your observations are very astute, quite subtle, Maryla. I think you’re right on – Aviva was getting more and more petulant as the girls failed to rally around her and her neuroses and she got really aggressive.

      I’m beginning to think her phobias are all an act.

    • Lisa Renee says:

      Happy Birthday Maryla, great comments!! I grew up in the city, I do not get Adiva at all. IMO Reid will run for the hills from exhaustion for the banner/red carpet she wants because she crossed the street safely(i posted this exact sentiment last week) or his ego needs so much building he will spend their relationship in Superman mode. Both options are exhausting to even think about. There have been many chats on this blog about how nuts we are VS. how nuts Adiva is. I’m leaning towards it being an act for attention. Fear of heights, lets buy a penthouse condo, fear of elevators, lets stay in NYC because thats a non issue, flying, she’ll take the window seat & so on & so on. You are very witty. Thanks for mentioning Lynn & those who have stepped up to keep us all together. Have a great day, Lisa

      • chismosa says:

        Yeah but did you hear that comment from Reid about the overweight women? What is THAT about Reid? Kind of yucky to hear that. At times i find him to be such a wimp, and other times very sweet. But now i don’t know… especially since we now see what his wife truly is like. Who can blame Harry now??!! ha

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Happy Brithday Maryla and an excellent post!

    • PrincessPindy says:

      Maryla,
      Happy Birthday!!
      Funny, love what the ladies SHOULD have been doing!!!

    • chismosa says:

      you are hysterical Maryla, i agree

    • lilylynn says:

      Well said Maryla! I find it very ironic that Adiva’s tagline is “Never underestimate a woman born and raised in New York City.” Ha – she seems afraid of everything LOL – I mean EVERYTHING fazes her – EVERTHING is an obstacle to overcome and dissect the minutiae of, and then she needs a banner.

    • PJ says:

      Has Adiva made herself a success? What does she do besides spend Daddy’s money?

    • dickens says:

      Happy birthday, Maryla!
      Very astute and funny post.
      🙂

  13. scorpiosue1102 says:

    Aviva is the biggest narcissist that I have ever seen. She wanted a banner from Ramona….really?!?!?! I mean REALLY?!?!?! Today in her blog she owns her crazy behavior. That’s awesome! Not. The problem is that this is how a grown woman and mother thinks. These are her true thoughts. Does she expect the same thing from her husband and kids? “Hey mom, I made a banner for you today for making my breakfast. You are so brave to do that!” Come on!

    I don’t know if Carole is cool or clueless. I can’t believe Carole thought it would be a good idea for her and Aviva to double date. I guess she did though. She also proved Ramonja right. The dynamic did change.

    Speaking of Ramonja….if they wanted to drink all day everyday so what? They’re on vacation. They’re not driving and they do not have their kids there. If anything, if the kids see this video they have ammunition on their parents for a long time.

    Heather is still kind of annoying but I like her more and more.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Yeah, I was annoyed by Carole last night. She was very blase about Aviva’s behavior, which was SO out of line. Maybe she was just worn down – but as the hostess, if Aviva suggested the double date – or even if Carole did in a moment of thoughtlessness, once it was clear that the other ladies objected, she should have told Aviva that it wasn’t appropriate and they would do this another time.

      • BB says:

        I suspect Carole will treat it all as a joke in her blog as she normally does. Carole was not a very good hostess. She didn’t know what was going on in the house a good portion of the time. She talked about how hard she worked trying to keep everyone happy, but I didn’t really see it. She did more running away from the conflict that trying to resolve anything. When you have a house full of guests, you don’t sneak away to spend the night with your boyfriend because things are getting dicey. After seeing how hurt the other women were about the double date, she should have cancelled it and told Aviva this trip wasn’t all about her but the group as a whole.

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          Exactly – and her comments about the trip being so she could see her BF and she shouldn’t have invited the other girls…well, she did, and since she did, she was obligated to show them a good time. If she wanted to spend time w/her BF in St. Barth’s, she should have done so and left the girls behind. I suppose she would have had to give up TV exposure for her BF, but them’s the breaks.

          • Kansas Girl says:

            It seems to me Carole isn’t a very good hostess – maybe doesn’t know how. This trip came off a bit like the lunch she had at her house. She didn’t seem to have planned ahead well, was not prepared for her guests, didn’t know what to do when things didn’t go as planned.

            • amalfi says:

              I think overall Carole is probs not very high maintenance, so she may not have thought her obligations through… much like a cute bowl of m&ms instead of actual food when you invite your circle of NYC friends over for a holiday lunch.

              lol. She’s human. Not perfect or better. Her halo fell, but I could like her more if she admitted she doesn’t float on a plane (no, not that kind of plane) above the othes.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                Was Carole a bad host or did she have bad guests. You can not lead a horse to water? The problem is that this group of women are not that easily lead. Any suggestion is met with a certain amount of teenage angst and conflict. Carole maybe use to a certain amount of class and restraint, which do not lend themselves to the reality genre in many ways. Ramona and Sonja never wanted to deal with Carole’s boy friend and Reid, so maybe they should not have come on the trip, but that would have been a boring show. A lot of the drama on this trip did not ring very true. Adiva’s issues seemed somewhat scripted and one note and unbelievable and more like a D actress vying for attention. Sonja seems fun, when everything goes her way, but very immature, none the less. IMO.

        • T-Rex says:

          I don’t think Carole handles conflict well, and for me, I think that she really DIDN’T know what was going on because she wasn’t around much, I think she spent a great deal of time with Russ and away from the cameras, IMO. This trip was for her to see Russ, Bravo probably said, “hey we will pickup the tab if you invite the ladies along with you. Again, from the outset Carole stated that she was there to see Russ and his band.

          • BB says:

            Then she should have told Bravo no thanks, I want to spend time with my boyfriend and don’t have time to be the hostess with the mostess. I could see Sonja or Luann opting to let Bravo pay for the trip, but Carole’s not poor. Once she agreed to host a girl’s weekend, she should have taken more responsibility as hostess. The other ladies didn’t seem to have a problem with the time she spent with Russ, but she should have been more aware of what was going on around her. She certainly didn’t help matters.

            • T-Rex says:

              Oh I agree, and I really don’t think that she was prepared for what was going to happen on the trip. I posted downthread how EXHAUSTING it can become trying to manage or babysit folks who are drunk and incoherent most of the time when you are on vacation, been there, done that. So, I think Carole just retreated from the situation, even before Aviva even got there. My opinion, that day on the boat was the last straw for Carole, those two were drunk all day and night, were embarassing themselves all over town and I really believe Carole decided to not care what Ramona or Sonja did any longer and didn’t spend any more time with them. Carole doesn’t seem to like that drama, so again I really think she didn’t see all the turmoil happening between Aviva and Ramona/Sonja at first, then probably didn’t know how to stop it after that

              • PJ says:

                If Carole doesn’t like drama why feed the drama by appeasing Adiva with a couple’s dinner. Adiva is the biggest drama queen that has ever been cast on this show. I like Carole but her facade has some cracks which became apparent last night.

        • Contessa says:

          I like Carole, but last night she missed the mark totally with the double date, and I agree with all of your comment BB. Great report on NY, hit all the marks and more!

      • Lisa Renee says:

        Lady C, please file this in the catagory of it takes one to know one. Carol was “blase” because she was stoned. That is all, Lisa

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          ITA – she got her stone on too! But in her defense, there is no way she could have done anything about the behavior of those who were causing a continual casino. IMO, she did the dinner with Aviva to pacify her and get her away from her relentless attack on Ramona and Sonja – and had she not done that we would never have been treated to the real Reid.

          • Lisa Renee says:

            WCW, ITA there was nothing to do but imbibe to survive one casino after another. We did get to see the real Reid didn’t we. I’m going to go one step further & say when Adiva takes her leg off for bed, he takes off his hairpiece. If not a hair piece he needs a new hair stylist ASAP. IMO if Carol got anymore “blase” I would have to check her for a pulse, Lisa

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          Ha! I hadn’t even thought of that – but you could be right on.

        • amalfi says:

          D’accord.

          Finally someone else sees this.

        • Cartwheels says:

          B.I.N.G.O!!!!!!

          • Chicago Diane says:

            A couple of things- there has been some speculation that Carol doesn’t have that much money- the Prince never inherited from his father, Lee has it all. I ssupect it is true- and that she is on the show to prmote her books, TV shows, etc.

            I think she allowed the women to jointhe trip to have Bravo pay for it, and allow her to get to one of St Barth’s most fabulous places- and saw the women as a side issue she would not be dealing with.
            I also felt very disapointed in her failure to 1) stop/control/attempt to dissipate Aviva- she just stood there as she ranted each time. She -on camera- neither appeared to comment/influence any change in th eother womens’ actions.
            2) when she went to Ramona’s room, she was clearly on something- she had made the couples dinner plans but had no idea it would disturb anyone else, nor did she care, or iinterevene to change them and appease the others. She just lay there on the bed as the action flew around her.
            3) I was disapointed in her quickly-said- criticism of the old, dizzy aunts- – rather than any effort to appease, support them with Aviva, or anyone.
            3) . The majority of the time, Carole was quiet,barely there, calm on the surface, but displaying little or no reaction to much of anything, and, other than criticizing Ramonoja, she did nothing to evaluate/correct anyone else’s actions. She could have stopped most of everything that evolved negatively- but she just avoided it.

            She appears ot me to be caste conscious, and Aviva seems ot be in the crowd she is more interested in impressing/supporting, vs Ramonja.Luanne and Heather don’t seem to register- but Heather caught her mood and supported her at lunch- which she responded well to.

            I do think it is a shame that any of this group arrived at an island getaway without any concern about the desires of the hostess as stipulated, or of their fellow guests. Flexibiilty is essential when travelling in a group, as is being aware of how your actions impact others. Noone in the group seemed aware of that- it was all men/women for themselves. It was disapopointing from each of them.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Chicago Diane – you have a really good point about the money issues with Carole. Makes a lot of sense.

            • Bea says:

              I wonder about Carole’s money situation. After seeing her apartment and hearing her say in interviews that she was using the show to promote her books, I assumed she needed the income too. But I do think her husband inherited at least some of his father’s fortune because his parents were divorced before his father died. I would think his assets went to his kids and not his ex-wife.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                Carole’s net worth is rumored to be 50 million, also Lee Radziwill would not be entitled to the Radziwll estate because she married after, unless Anthony left this mother a portion of his money, but I do not believe that he would not leave Carole well taken care of as she took care of him during his long battle with cancer. IMO.

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  wow… that’s rich!! I mean, she’s rich! So she’s not on this show for money, it would seem.

                  • Ça va says:

                    In an interview I read online Carole scoffed at the $50 mil, she joked it was more like 50 mil pesos. I have a heard time believing the rumor is true because in her book she writes how she and Anthony are “anxious about paying for the renovation” of their new apartment so they sell one of Pres. Kennedy’s rockers to Prince Albert of Monaco. Pages later she writes, “there are greatly exaggerated tales of a Radziwill fortune.” On the same page is the story of how they get a deal to buy Ralph Lauren Home Collection furniture at cost if they allow Elle Decor to do a photo layout highlighting it. All of that might mean they weren’t rich, merely cheap. Still, I can’t imagine why, if she were worth that much, she would agree to do this show. It isn’t doing her any favors.

    • Eastbayca says:

      Morning,
      I agree with you.
      Carole, should have put Aviva in her place as the hostess.
      Aviva is exhausting and her apologizing in her blog is a little too late in my book. She has been bashing Ramonja for a long while now….is it that fans are not buying her crap that she is apologizing? She is exhibiting a typical Jill Zarin behavior with her “apologies”.

      Did someone tell her Ramona was going to throw her a party, roll out a red carpet and have a banner welcoming her to St. Barts? Carole is the host of the trip not Ramona…her argue is misplaced if her welcome was lacking.

    • T-Rex says:

      I could also see why Carole didn’t diffuse the situation much though, I have worked in a Bar, and been around drunk women(been a drunk woman but never acted like Ramonja’s), and there is no way to “reason” with someone drunk or point out their behaviour because they A) won’t remember and b) Don’t care. They are having fun, their way, and you either jump on the drunken-train or move to the side and let them barrel through. I remember a girls weekend MANY years ago, with my sister’s friends from college. Well, we had 3 girls on the trip that drank from breakfast until well after midnight, taking naps and snacks in between, but they were incoherent most of the trip, it was EXHAUSTING being with them, babysitting them, making sure they didn’t drown in the pool, didn’t bring home random dudes from the bar for safety reasons, didn’t fall in the bars while climbing on tables to dance, constantly pulling down or up their tops because they kept “letting the puppies breath”, holding their hair while they upchucked various places, etc. Look sis and I were drinking too, but we know where the line crosses I guess, never got that drunk. BUT what we didn’t have was conflict, no one was trying to induce drama for the cameras, so I can see why Carole maybe didn’t get involved, Just my opinion though.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I have found that when one tries to “help” a drunk…most of them are in such denial about how much alcohol they consume and the effect it has on them, that the next day they end up resenting you. I once called a friend the next day to see how she was as it was I who drove her home and had to walk her into her house because she couldn’t walk without help. I got a good talking to about over-reacting, being overly dramatic, etc. I never said, “wow you drank a lot” I just called to say, “Just calling to check on you. did you sleep well?” And got a tongue lashing….So I usually try to distance myself from said drunken person.

        • Contessa says:

          Lainey, I get it and understand. I had a 25 year friendship breakup because of liquor. My friend lived in NY and we saw each other 3-4 times per year. But she sublet her NY apartment and came to AZ to live for that year, without a car. I was constantly driving her around and she would get angry if I didn’t want to spend 2-3 evenings a week going out for drinks and dinner. She would get hammered and get on what she called being brutally honest…my weight, my ex husband, my money situation etc. I finally had enough when she asked that I pick her up at the airport and we could go shopping at the mall (she hates shopping). I went and she complained the entire time. I felt used and finally exploded. The drinking bothered me, as she would get hammered everytime we were out. If we did pool time at my house, she would drink from morning throughout the day. It got to the point that I could smell the alcohol through her pores. I dreaded her being with her. There is much more backstory and too long to go into. However we would vacation in the Caribbean when we were younger and it didn’t seem to bother me as much then – but we were on vacation. Living with it was way too much.

        • T-Rex says:

          Yep, agree totally, that’s how the 3 girls we were with thought, how dare we not let them have any fun, let them have sex in the place we were staying with random dudes from the bar, tell them about their antics which they thought were exaggerated, etc. Ah, but we had cameras and video cameras on the trip(we still have the tapes), and we showed them to the girls later who were mortified by their behaviour since they didn’t think they were that bad or that drunk! So, I can totally relate to Carole, “checking-out” when it came to STD’s and Coaster’s antics, she had had enough and just wanted to spend time with some sane sober folks, I can relate to that completely

        • ATLnNYC09 says:

          ITA Lainey. The messenger always gets shot when people are drinking. I think somewhere deep down, they know they are doing the wrong thing but cant reconcile or give up the habit so they lash out at others.

          Aviva is very quick to infer someone is a slut or an alcoholic, its like she waits for that moment so that she can lash out. Who is she to judge anyone?

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I think you hit on something there, I think these people feel that they are being “judged” – – -just by my having called the next day to see how she was doing (because I was truly concerned); my friend took it as me judging her. I felt that I needed to check on her because her husband was out of town and so I knew she was alone and I KNEW she couldn’t walk without falling, so I was really calling to make sure she hadn’t fallen or something the night before. I didn’t even go there… i just said I was checking in and tried to casually ask “how did you sleep.” She was not happy. But as Trex said, I don’t think she was aware of her condition. Nevertheless, I go out of my way to not be in charge of the drunk person. Contessa, it sounds like you took a lot from your friend. I’m glad you’re free of that.

            • Contessa says:

              Lainey, here is the topper, she worked for me for a few years on a consulting basis – 1099. When that contract wasn’t renewed, she went to NY unemployment and filed for benefits…here it is almost 2 years later and I am still fighting with the state of NY who gave them to her without even checking with me to see if she was an employee. I told her not do this, and she told me it was “my” problem. Her entire life revolves around money and wine, she even jokes about the wine consumption. I take a lot from friends, but the trip to the airport, under the guise of she wanted to go to the mall, was basically about saving money and not paying for a service to bring her home from the airport. Never once did she offer to pay for gas in all those times I drove her around…it’s not like I would have taken it at that time, but the offer would have been nice. At my age I am done with drunk emotional vampires. I don’t mind drinking, i did my share in my 20’s, but I hardly ever drink and when I do I sip a watered down cocktail as I am usually the driver.
              That being said I am concerned about Sonja, when she was falling all over the dressing room and than walked into the dining area last night you would tell she was pretty drunk. We’ve seen enough of that, and I wish she would control it a bit more for her sake and reputation. I have no doubt her life is in turmoil, and she misses what she had being married to one of the “400”, but it’s gone, done, she needs to move on in a positive way. I really like Sonja and I am getting to like Heather a lot.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Sorry NY is still fighting with you about this…that sucks. Users…I hate ’em. But they’re so charming and disarming when they’re using us!!! It’s not until afterward that we’re aware saying “Hey! What just happened?” and they’re already moved on to their next mark.

              • Sus says:

                UGH! Its people like her that make a bad name for 1099 contractors.

          • chismosa says:

            EXACTLY ATL– why does Aviva have to put her one leg in her mouth to call someone a slut or alcoholic. I’m telling you, she has issues from growing up with someone in her life that was like this. Maybe she was a flousy when younger or something!???

            • RealHousewifeVA says:

              She said her mom was an alcoholic, and clearly her dad is a slut.

              • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                Then she needs to get some therapy to work through that; go to her Mother’s grave or do whatever it will take to FORGIVE her mother for being an alcoholic and close that chapter of her life (So, she can stop being Judgy McJudgerson when anyone wants to have a damned drink! Aviva is the type of woman that would DRIVE my ass to DRINK. Seriously! Her ex-, Harry, may have been a highly sexual person who turned into a full-blown, whoring around slutting sex addict JUST to deal with being married to such a SHREW. I am NOT saying it was RIGHT for Harry to do this….but, with Aviva….I GET it!!).

                She also needs to possibly have a group therapy session with her Dad and finally unload on him for all of her anger and embarrassment at his nymphomaniac, sexually harassing, borderline illegal, and extremely inappropriate behavior. I think she does have subconscious anger at her father for this type of behavior; however, with Sonja and Ramona (and other people like them who happen to enjoy sex and do not mind saying so), Aviva is bringing her “mail” to the WRONG “mailbox.” She needs to bring that mail to her FATHER’S mailbox.

                Aviva, if you are reading, get help (If you are already getting help, get MORE!!) and stop taking out your problems and projecting your damned issues on to everybody else!!

                People like her work my last damned nerve (and I usually end up TELLING them so if I am around them for any length of time. Shrug).

    • chismosa says:

      i like your last statement, i like Heather a bit now too, but she’s still sort of annoying. hee hee

    • lori says:

      I’m wondering if the whole double date thing was Caroles way of appeasing Aviva?!

  14. mardrag26 says:

    Happy Birthday JillZ and Maryla!

    And a heartfelt prayer of Love, Blessing, and Gratitude to everyone on this 9/11 anniversary.
    May Peace and Comfort be found today.

  15. Mary E says:

    Up until last night, I really liked Reid. But the comment about Ramonja being overweight? PLEASE. Like them or not, plastic surgery induced or not, that was a sick thing to say. As a 50 something myself, I wish I looked that good. Maybe that comment is a hint into why Aviva is so nuts. I wonder if he thinks she is fat too? Sorry, I just can’t get over it.

    • I guess thinking before speaking doesn’t come easily to either of the Dreschers. Ready for the Chippendales Reid is not. Nor is he a Johnny Depp, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, or other swoon-worthy male equal….

    • BB says:

      I guess according to Reid and Aviva, old fat women (his term, not mine) shouldn’t be partying or having any fun, and they defintely shouldn’t be having any sex! They should be sitting in their rockers siping tea and chanting rah rah, after they rolled out the red carpet and hung the banner. How dare Sonja and Ramona!

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I did not see the episode because I was sick like a dog last night (better today, though). I plan to watch a repeat of the episode at 6 today. As I read the comments, I am getting the feeling that, as I watch today, I will want to jump through my television screen to slap Reid for that nasty (and untrue) comment and just slap Aviva over and over for being such a judgmental, critical PAIN IN THE ASS!!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          hope you are feeling better

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I am. Still not a 100%, but I’m getting there. Thank you, Lainey! (It took me forever to type up my blog because I was coughing up a lung, wiping my nose, wheezing, trying hard to even catch my breath — all while typing (I kept thinking, “I am going to get this blog in even if I drop dead after I hit SEND. You are not going to beat me, you nasty cold!!” LOL).

    • LuvMyGals says:

      Poor Reid, I wonder how he’s going to control nature and face the fact that dear Adiva is going to get old and “fat” in due time. Now that is something for her to worry about, because it sounds like her husband has some criteria. It sounds like she’ll be traded in for a better model when Reid’s time comes. Now I feel sorry for her.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        i don’t

      • PJ says:

        I already think Adiva looks old for her age, whatever her age is (old for the age of the children she has)——take a good look at her face she will not age well.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          SH had a hi-def pic of Aviva on her blog. When I saw it, I thoughe t, “Oh my God! I did not realize Aviva had so many wrinkles. She really looks MUCH older than her chronological age. She never looks like that on my t.v. What is up with that?” Then I figured that this is probably how Aviva looks in hi-def.

          I think it was THIS pic that made Aviva go ballistic and confront SH and make demands and threaten SH if SH would not comply with her demands.

          Not only did SH NOT comply, she’s been putting Aviva on blast ever since. I’m pretty sure SH will also continue to find and post EVERY unflattering pic of Aviva that she can. That is like a battle of 2 crazy bitches:

          SH to Aviva: Oh, so you think you are CRAZY enough to intimidate me? Well, guess what, Bitch!! I’m even CRAZIER, and you will rue the day you tried to mess with ME!!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            i saw that picture. not good.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              I think that Reid was very angry with Sonja and Ramona and lashed out in a nasty manner. He did not go on and on about any of the women just one stupid comment. Where as Mario would have been saying all sorts on nasty things make sure everyone knew just how superior he and Ramona really are. I think he is better looking then his wife and I think probably mentally more healthy too. JMHO.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Reid was probably trying to say something that Aviva would like to hear. She seemed pleased when he said that one unkind thing about Samonja. You’re right, he didn’t go on and on…so while it wasn’t good, I guess it could have been worse. Mario wasn’t there, was he? So hard to say what he would have been saying, but safe to say he would have had a lot to say.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      Not that this makes much of a difference but Reid isnt exactly Mr. Universe himself to be calling someone old or fat. The audacity of a short, dork calling two pretty older women fat is laughable. Nobody wants Reid but that shrieking witch Aviva.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        no kidding, ATL. He’s no prize himself.

      • chismosa says:

        ha! a short dork. Aviva seems to tower over him, no? She is always in very high shoes, i think. Maybe for her high-heeled leg. I don’t think she ever wears flats.

        • Birdwoman says:

          I lost a lot of respect for Reid with that comment. Personally, I don’t find his wife that attractive. I just don’t understand why some people find super skinny people attractive? Aviva and even Carol look like my mom did the last year of her life. All those bones sticking out really turn my stomach!

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I lost a lot of respect for Reid after that comment too. Before that, I thought he was an absolute doll and a saint. Now, I am starting to think he might be just as nasty as Aviva.

            I mean, what happened to Reid’s alleged constant saying that Aviva mentioned in the beginning of the season: “Say what you MEAN, but do not say it MEAN”? Aviva was mean, and his comment was mean.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Who needs video replay when we have you, Detox. I had totally forgotten about her little “self-serving, I’m so nice” comment… “Say what you MEAN, but don’t say it MEAN”…the grammar there has always bugged me just a little bit. But the point is, I had forgotten about it… and you remembered it. Andy is panhandling for questions for the NY reunion. This would be a good one.

              • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                I’m not on Facebook or Twitter. If you are Lainey, feel free to send that in because I would love to know what Aviva would say when asked about it.

  16. Jessica says:

    You think Jackie is crazy on BBW? You should of seen her when her husband played. Wooh. She would follow the tour bus, call non-stop, half time Jackie would sit in the stands and Doug would have to stare at her and smile, any woman who worked for the BB team, Jackie harrassed. This lady has serious issue.
    On a lighter note. you are all doing a great job.
    RHNY
    Well, Sonja annoyed me and this is why.
    Who the hell does she think she is first of all? I can’t put my finger on it, maybe someone can help me. But the way she talks about “yachts on a property” oh yes, but not her fault, but in the next sentence, she’s talking about how poor she is and people should feel sorry for her.
    Like with the toaster oven situation, lol she acts like she was doing Heather a favor lol. granted Heather was being controlling, but did you see the blog Sonja wrote? She talked about a towel line or something she had 20 yrs ago, I never heard of it, did you guys? Plus, this whole girls trip. lol the purpose was for Carole to see her boyfriend, selfish Sonja. LuAnn got a pass again although she was an instigator.
    I love Ramona, but she needs tell Sonja as a friend to slow down on her drinking. It might seem funny watching it, but there is nothing more annoying when you have a drunk person that can’t walk and is annoying lol.
    I’m starting to annoy my self lol.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Hi Jessica, Welcome! That Sonja does put on airs, doesn’t she?

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      Jackie is so insecure about Doug.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I never really watched basketball much. So, I was not fully aware of Miss Jackie’s antics while Doug was playing.

        She definitely showed some crazy last season, and it looks like it might be more of the same this season (but a bit toned down since she was banned from the group at the end of Season 1).

        Doug seems like a sweetie. I can understand Jackie being insecure — not because Doug makes her feel that way, but because, in the back of her mind, she knows that Doug might actually run into a SANE woman one day who makes him realize that he has been living with a crazy woman all these years, and it is time to get out and find some peace before he drops dead. JMHO.

    • ATLnNYC09 says:

      IMO Sonja cant get passed the fact that she isnt a Morgan anymore. She so desperately wants the wealth she had but she has no way to attain it so she is conflicted. She uses it in situations when it suits her but she knows thats not her life anymore.

    • Lisa Renee says:

      Hi Jessica, Amen! When Doug was playing ball the worst kept secret is you mess with her man she would cut a bitch. I love me some BBW’s but Jackie is scarier than things that go bump in the night. Lisa

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Thank God, I am not the only one who feels this way. I really DO get the feeling that Jackie would, indeed, “cut a bitch” over Doug.

        • Lisa Renee says:

          Detox, thanks so much for blogging this show. Great read! It snuck up on me & haven’t seen it yet. So this is the season of Jackie’s redemption. Put the Vatican on stand-by because we will need to report a miracle if Jackie owns her delusional pot stirring ways & becomes friends with them again. Its rare when I can admit I love both BBW’s show. I think it’s the earrings, they mesmerize me. Can’t tear my eyes away. I begged for a pair for my birthday. White girls can be fly too! Sounds like its going to be another great season, I am in. Lisa

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I am fascinated by their earrings as well. It is like they are usually huge and look SO heavy.

            And, yes, I know that White girls can indeed be “fly” too. In fact, many of my best girlfriends are “fly” White chicks. I also have many “fly” White family members too. LOL

            I have this thing for hoop earrings (any size, from small to HUGE and everything in between). I must have been a gypsy in a former life. When I have my hair pulled tightly back in a low bun or a headscarf on the top of my head with my huge hoops, many people tell me I look like a gypsy. Go figure (Shrug).

  17. Jessica says:

    Oh and Viva, I call he that lol.
    O.M.G. You all covered that well.

  18. mardrag26 says:

    Well, that was a casino last night, eh? I love HWNY, but didn’t love so many things about this trip. What I didn’t love the most, though, is Bravo’s editing antics.

    Did anyone else notice the scenes for their final dinner were spliced together sooo out of order? (or is it just me?) Now, I know the Lushy McLushersons (Ramonja) were full of 6 days of alcohol, but when Carole went to speak to them during dinner and they were so inebriated….it seemed very out of sequence when they DID arrive at the table (supposedly after that conversation)…..and they did not seem as alcohol fueled. They both walked to the table fairly upright…but in the bathroom, they were falling all over. Not only that but, all I saw at the dinner table were drinks….did anyone see food? (AND, they were on vacation so had every right to drink and dance on tables!)

    I can just imagine producer’s conversations around the editing table.

    Now, the Judgey McJudgerson’s….Aviva & Reid….it came clear to me last night why they are together. When Reid made that terrible comment about the women’s weight, it gave me tremendous insight into their relationship. Their pillow talk is probably about who wore what, who’s ankles are swollen, who didn’t greet them properly and who is going to get the red carpet lecture next. Oh, and how perfect they are. Kiss, hug!

    Aviva needs to read my Inspirational Page on Letting It Go! 😛

    And Carole….how those we admire can fall. She could have easily diffused a number of situations that turned into casinos, but then, it was probably in her Bravo contract NOT to stop any drama.

    Sigh…Bravo is losing me. Please don’t tell me they will do the same thing with HWBH. 😦
    Don’t burst my bubble just yet! LOL!

    Great job on those pics and the posts ladies. So many thanks to you!

    Blessings and Love to all!

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      The Judgey McJudgersons…hee hee…making me giggle… 🙂

      • Called A Princess... says:

        I think it would take an army of nuns to deal successfully with Sonja and Ramona. They are really bratty. I learned a long time ago, that you get what you put out to the world. Cast members are finally reacting tit for tat with these to zany twits giving them what they dish out, right back in the face. LOL.

  19. JustDee says:

    Thannks for the great blog ladies!

    Lady C –
    ***THERE WILL BE NO MIRTH!****
    😆 O.M.G! LMAO!!!! 😆

  20. T-Rex says:

    Okay, now we know why Aviva has stayed rail thin her man would not “take” it if she was probably an ounce overweight, and we know how much Aviva “needs” Reidyboy. UGH! I guess I may be the minority here, but this was NEVER a girls weekend, Ramona and Sonja just wanted it to be that way. Russ was always in the picture, they knew Russ would be there, Carole said from the time she invited them Russ would be there, but no one seemed to mind, probably because Russ was either with the band practicing or in the bedroom with Carole schtooping. I think we don’t see Carole a whole lot because she was there to spend time with her boyfriend, not referee grown adult women acting badly, she only invited the girls because Bravo asked her to, she was going to St. Barts with or without the ladies to see her Boyfriend. I am DONE feeling sorry for Sonja, she needs to stop drinking and trying to hump anything that moves, I get it she’s on vacation, she wants to have sex, she has no money, she wants to be needed by a man, etc., but you can be discreet, which she is not. Ramona, gets on my nerves, can’t say anything nice about her, she is a big baby and needs to get over it. Aviva, nuff said you need some therapy to get over yourself, get over Harry leaving you, get over the fact that you don’t need to be joined at the hip of your husband so he doesn’t stick is dick in someone(sorry so crude, but the situation is SO annoying). Can’t believe Lu-Man didn’t irritate me this episode, and I like Heather.

    • Contessa says:

      Yes, yes and yes!

    • Maryla says:

      Sonja is a disappointment to watch this season. Totally agree t-Rex. But more than be annoyed, I find the character of Sonja to be interesting. I think, back in the day, that she had a “shtick,” and it worked. It was the persona of a coy, flirty, coquettish young Manhattonite. That behavior, likely fueled by alcohol, helped her sidle up to plenty of rich, horny men—one of whom she married.

      However, in a marriage, coy flirty and coquettish don’t have a place. Those behaviors quickly wear thin on a mate. And so they are replaced with “responsible mom” and/or “sophisticated wife” (even if arm candy). But for Sonja, the marriage didn’t work out. She can’t go back to responsible and sophisticated because all her instincts say that behavior failed. She has to go back to her arsenal and use what worked. So, 20 years later, she’s hauled out alcohol-fueled “Coy, Flirty Coquette Sonja Vixen (CFC-SV), version 2.0.” But it isn’t the same all these years later.

      In reality (if not Reality TV), she can decide to be a role model for her daughter. She can look at her marriage as 7 years of success. She can put the bottle down. She can put on some underpants (every day please). She can move forward and find her own success and happiness. There are millions of divorced women who not only make it work, but embrace life on their own terms or in relationships the second time around.

      However, she won’t make this choice with Ramona or sleazy men willing to “get a little” of CFC-SV 2.0″ hanging around.

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Sigh….so well-said. Poor Sonja.

      • Very well said. You remind me of a well liked poster of long past called Olivia (trust me, that is a BIG compliment).

      • Contessa says:

        Lisa, I didn’t even think of that, but I bet you absolutely correct! Weed is all over those islands for pennies!

      • Contessa says:

        Maryla, that was brilliant…WOW! You put into words what I was feeling about Sonja and did it beautifully. We all go through stages in our life, but 40’s and 50’s are not the time to act like you are/were in your 20’s. Sonja needs to clean it up. Also I don’t know why but the underwear/or lack thereof is simply tacky on TV. There was a close up of Sonja last night and I cringed for her sake. Enough is enough Sonja – you are more and better than this. She needs to get out of the past and live in today, and embrace the opportunities that go with being a HW. I was totally unimpressed with the anniversary party she threw for Adiva, and also the toaster oven which is getting really old and boring.

      • T-Rex says:

        You know I read an article about STDS(SonjaTheDrunkSlut) when she first appeared on the show and she was a Hostess at a VERY upscale dining establishment when she was single, . STDS was a “hit” at the Restaurant so much so a writer that frequented the restaurant wrote an article about her, and all the men she met(wink wink). Well, within 2 days she was fired from her job, mainly due to the article and what I think that some businessmen wives perceived as her being “too friendly” with their spouses. It was after that firing that she met her ex-husband. So she is trying to be that coy little hostess she was 15 years ago, and it doesn’t look good on her any longer.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        I do not think that Sonja changed very much once she became Mrs. Morgan. That is what caused the problems in the marriage. I think she was still seductive and probably made a lot of wives uncomfortable. She can sometimes say the strangest things. I would think in the Morgan world everything is understated. Sonja, not so much. Wall Street Lady hinted that people were not happy with the flirty Sonja and that that may have ruined the marriage. NJMO.

    • Dixie says:

      Maybe Ramona and Sonja were being polite when they said the dynamics would change because a man was there. Maybe it was that Reid and his stuffy self was going to be there; they didn’t seem to care that Russ was there. Maybe it had more to do with the personality, not the anatomy.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        To tell you the truth, Ramona is not happy unless she has a certain amount of control over people. Sonja supports her in whatever games Ramona wants to play. Reid was a threat to that control. I think it would have been much better if Adiva and Reid would have at least stayed in the rooms closer to Heather and Carole, that way Reid would have been further away from the main house. The fact that Ramona and Sonja worked so hard to make Reid uncomfortable made it even harder to know that he was still staying in the house. Ramona and Sonja really like to get their way regardless of being right or wrong. IMO.

  21. Lady Chatterley says:

    Sorry Guys, fixed the poll, so you can vote more than once.

  22. SoutheastVA says:

    Happy B’day JillZ and Maryla.

    My prayers go out to all 9/11 survivors and the loved ones of the fallen.

    On this day in 2001, I was sitting in my office on a military base when my husband called to tell me to turn on the TV. I was in shock. I ended up bolting from my office to find my Commanding Officer and leadership staff to let them know what was going on. No one had their TVs on that morning for some reason. I work with some of our nation’s finest and you could feel the tension of not being able to jump in a do something right away. Once the report came in of the Pentagon hit, we all went into battle mode awaiting orders to do what we do best to support the Dept. We all had either a family member, friend or current/ex-colleagues working in the Pentagon. We started dialing all of the phone numbers we knew. Of course, none of the calls went through. The Pentagon phone system was down hard. In the aftermath, I learned that an ex co-worker of mine lost his 11 year old son that day. He was on the plane that hit the Pentagon. Because of his exceptionalism, he was selected to go on a National Geographic educational adventure to the Channel Islands Marine Sanctuary in California. He was on American Airlines flight #77 out of Dulles along with two other exceptional classmates and a teacher. The flight crashed into the Pentagon. In a horrific twist, his father worked in the Pentagon at the time. However, he was not in the office at the time of the crash. In his honor, the Military Child Education Coalition created the Bernard Curtis Brown II Memorial Space Camp Scholarship which sends select students to Space Camp where military-connected children experience science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) programs in action. The programs were inspired by Dr. Wernher Von Braun, a rocket scientist who played a key role in sending astronauts to the moon. I know we all feel for everyone that was lost on that day. For some reason, I feel the need to tell someone about this young boy. I have an 11 year old daughter who will be participating in a STEM program later this month at a local university. I have waved off opportunities that would have her travel far away from home without her father or me at her side. I think this tragedy subconsciously affects my thinking about letting her go. I just get sick to my stomach every time I think of the heartache a former colleague and his family have endured.

    Sorry for rambling, I needed to unload.

    • mardrag26 says:

      ((((((SoutheastVA))))))) Thank you for sharing your story. Know our hearts go out to all who suffered because of this tragedy.

    • BB says:

      Thank you for sharing that story. I’m sure there are many like that to be told. I too was on a military installation that day and I remember it well. I worked at the Naval Station, Norfolk, but happened to be at the Naval Hospital in Portsmouth, VA that day conducting a mediation. Once the mediation was over (I guess around 10 a.m. or so) I stopped by the HR office and was told what was happening. I called my office back at the Naval Station and was told not to come back to the office, but to go home. I remember going home, turning on the television and just staring in disbelief at what I was seeing. I’ll never forget that day.

    • Lisa Renee says:

      SoutheastVA, on this day of all days please, ramble on. Your story along with those we will never hear is how to make sure that we truly never forget. Lisa

    • JenninFL says:

      Thank you for sharing. It is a day none of us will forget.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Thanks so much for sharing this, SEVA.

      I was also in the DC area on that day. I remember all of us on our phones watching the TVs, trying to figure out what was going on, waiting to see if we were going to have to evacuate and when. Hearing that a plane was headed for the State Capitol…maybe the White House…

      I couldn’t wait any longer, I left my office and went and picked up my 10 year old son from school. I was the first parent there – the school was in lock-down. He was so puzzled by what was going on – trying to explain it to him, reassure him that we would be safe.

      We drove home that day right past Camp David. So quiet – beautiful blue sky and not a plane in the sky. It seemed like there weren’t even birds. And no cars – everyone was just frozen with confusion. I took him home and watched TV and cried and just kept him close to me.

      The feelings I remember most from that day is an awareness of how much we take for granted, terrible sadness for the suffering of those in the WTC, Pentagon and Flight 93, overwhelming respect for those who threw themselves in to be part of the rescue, and fervent prayer that God would watch over us.

    • (HUGS REALLY TIGHT)

      Thank you for sharing with us.

    • trudie says:

      ((((((SoutheastVA)))))))

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      (((Southeast VA)))

  23. Orson says:

    As far as Gallery Girls goes, Amy probably would be able to make it to work on time if she didn’t get plastered every evening. And since she’s an annoying drunk also, she’s alienating the other women. What’s her name from OC with the attitude and tattoo half sleeve? She’s just floating by on her father’s reputation as a collector and her parent’s wallet and should get over herself. I don’t know what kind of history Maggie and Eli have, but he’s just humiliating her. I don’t think appearing on this program is going to help ANY of their careers in the Art World.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Tattoo half sleeve can be annoying and if obviously very privileged. She totally dissed her dad in last week’s episode – I think it was last week’s episode. I kinda don’t like that, putting her family biz out there in such a public way. On the one hand, whatever respect or goodwill she receives in the art world is because of her dad and then on the other hand she speaks ill of him. Maybe I’m taking things too much at face value.

      • amalfi says:

        OC Girl (does she need a name? I won’t care) Do ya think your cocaine rehab and tattoo sleeve might be part of the reason you are no longer your daddy’s “number one girl”??

        Why does she act so surprised they are not close. As if it is all his fault, I am not saying her dad is NOT a jackass… he may be i don’t know. I do know for certain she is a jackass though.

        • amalfi says:

          And for the record, I like the tatt sleeve… though old grumpy white daddies may not…

          • LaineyLainey says:

            yOU KNOW, You’re right, amalfi – it looks cute on her. Yes, it seems like she’s blaming her dad and she may have been self-medicating because of her dad issues. I just am not crazy about the way she is throwing him under the boss and not taking some responsibility for her part in their relationship. He’s probably been through hell and back with her. Just speculating. I watched my parents (and continue to) worry, worry, worry when their kids are dealing with addiction.

      • chismosa says:

        I think tattoo girl is Jen?– she needs a major major makeup and hair makeover. Chop a few inches off – her hair is too thin to wear long and her makeup is from the Jacqueline NJ school of cosmetics, very early 1990s. Personality she is ok, but very catty, which is fine but she does need to get over her father’s issues with her. She should take ownership, they did have a good relationship once so it’s not all him.

        I like Maggie, i like her energy. Something about her. Eli and her have a very non-sexual 50 Shades of Grey relationship. Poor Maggie, but she does have to leave there, but if it IS such a high end gallery, then i understand her wanting to leave on very good terms.

        I feel bad for Amy– she looks ridiculous on the show but seems sweet deep down.

    • chismosa says:

      i cannot STAND Amy. She and that little munchkin with Scoliosis- Chantal– omg i wish they’d jump off the Brooklyn Bridge. I can’t TAKE Chantal’s posture nor her personality.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I’m probably crazy but I like Chantal. I think that as a teacher, my heart melts a little bit for those who are unique in the sense that they might be the object of derision and ridicule. I hope she ends up ok.

        • Orson says:

          My read on Chantal is she likes the quirky and edgy role, but if things go wahonie shaped with the gallery, it’s not her relatives who lost their investment and she’ll be off to the next latest thing. And photographer girl? Accept that you’re just a waitress with an expensive camera and a willingness to be photographed nude. And I don’t think those are rare in NYC.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I feel you on both counts… Chantal is looking out for Chantal. I can respect that. Re: Photography girl: you nailed it.

    • Lulu says:

      Couldn’t agree more! What’s infuriating is Amy just can’t understand why the other girls won’t play with her! Poor Amy one day she will get a clue. As for Miss Maggie she will learn (the hard way that is.) Eli uses then notice he hires trust fund babies? What a snake. The rest are forgetable Kerri is interesting the only one that seems to be trying. End of a century is a complete train wreck. When is the series oops Season finale! 🙂

  24. Orson says:

    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this earlier. I have a suspicion that in St Bart’s, Luann was spending a lot of time off camera whispering in Aviva’s ear to keep her riled up against Ramonja. It’s the sort of thing she’d do to deflect attention away from her lapses in class. Ramona? Heck, this is the same thing she did in the 1st or 2nd episode in season 1 when Alex brought Simon along on the Ladies’ Lunch. We get it, Ramona. You feel your father was overcontrolling of your mother and when daddy passed (or left) your mother was helpless. So anytime a wife brings her husband along on a supposedly ladies’ only event, you think it’s your mom and dad all over again. You should get over it. Get some therapy. And while you’re there, work on your lack of filters too. You’ve been embarrassing the crap out of your daughter since she was a tween.

    Okay, I’ve vented.

    • T-Rex says:

      Hitting the LIKE button here! Coaster is extremely insecure and again this was NOT a girls trip, Russ was going to be there, and Aviva stated from the beginning she may bring Reidyboy, so again I don’t see why Coaster was so “put-off” by the situation if you didn’t like it then move your happy ass to the Villa that you and STDS(SonjaTheDrunkSlut) were looking at or shut yer yap about it!

      • scorpiosue1102 says:

        I will give this to Ramonja, Adiva said earlier that if Reid did come down that he would stay in a hotel. It was Carole that invited him to the house. Should Ramonja have handled it better? Yes, but then they were under the impression it would still be a girls vacation. If it wasn’t going to be there were plenty of bedrooms so Heather, Ramona and LuAnn could couple off too.

        • PJ says:

          I don’t think its Ramona’s fault things went the way they did. It was Adiva that pushed things over the edge, not Ramona. Ramona merely was part of a conversation that included Loo Loo but this was just a conversation nothing was ever put into action. Truth is the dynamics did change. But had Adiva had an ounce of humility or kindness in her Ramona and Sonja would have been fine with Reid being there. Probably part of the reason they drank so much and didn’t attend the concert was because Adiva was stressing them out so much.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          The problem is that the reason that Ramona and Sonja thought it was a girls weekend is because they decided it was going to be a girls weekend regardless of any sticky realities. This is where the poison lies. Ramona is a smart women, she knew what was happening on the trip from the get go. If Adiva came, Reid would be with her and that Carole would be spending time with Russ. The issue irrupted when Ramona and Sonja decided to disregard the group and project their own wishes on to everybody else which caused a casino. Adiva seemed to have been poked by the production people before the first fight began, probably in the car ride over to the house. IMO.

      • BB says:

        It may not have been a girls trip in reality, but when it was first brought up with the women, it was tagged a “girls” trip. They knew going in that Carole would be spending some time with Russ. I don’t even think Ramona and Sonja had that much problem with Reid being there after he told them he would be staying in his room and working. Ramona would have grumbled about it, sure. But, Aviva was not there to bond or be with the girls. If she had her way, Reid would have been joined at her hip every moment of that trip. THAT’s what Ramonja took issue with. Aviva is the one who blew it WAY out of proportion and that’s what made Ramonja become so defensive.

        • chismosa says:

          I agree BB and Scorpio Sue ^^^^.
          Orson i like your theory on Luann. She was a little TOO quiet if you ask me, and always slinking (or slithering) into the rooms where the drama was going on like “hi Girls!”… and i think she was just taking it all in and RELISHING the attacks on Ramona.
          I think someone is getting to Aviva. We don’t know who or why. She seemed to attack Ramona so much, when Sonja should be her main target if indeed it is all because of Harry. Or Luann- who also slept with Harry, hello!!??

          I am having my fingers crossed that at some God-given point the producers really stick it to Luann. I can’t take her– such a little sneak.

        • Bea says:

          The first 4-5 days they were there and so was Russ and Carole saw him, but it was primarily just the girls hanging out. Russ wasn’t even at their party where Tomas and Sonja hooked up. Aviva arrives with Reid and all of a sudden it’s double dates and Aviva demanding that they fawn all over her husband. They dynamics did change completely. I can understand why the other ladies would be annoyed, especially Heather who left her husband and very young children to come down and hang out with the ladies.

          Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but they should have had all the husbands/boyfriends come down for the weekend. Oh, and Aviva should have taken the ferry instead of the small plane.

          • Lady Chatterley says:

            Carole was just going along w/whatever Aviva wanted, to keep her from blowing her lid. Which I suppose is what Aviva wanted – to dominate the scene there. I’m finding her loathsome.

            • Bea says:

              Me too. My questions to her would be – if you don’t think this is a girl’s weekend, why is Russ staying in a hotel? Also she said that half her friends have homes in St. Barths. If so, why wouldn’t she and Reid stay with one of them?

              • Lady Chatterley says:

                Exactly – she clearly had other options, but chose to make this a Bravo trip. Although the action was swirling around Aviva, Sonja, and Ramona, ultimately, the responsibility for the whole casino rests w/Carole. As the hostess, her choices sparked the conflict, and she had the authority to put it to rest at several points along the way, but chose instead to let it ride. She’s not in a position to criticize the others – they did what they do. She was a poor hostess and THAT’S why the trip fell apart.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Carole, you have been busted by Bea. Good point, Bea

        • T-Rex says:

          BB, totally get it, I guess for me, I am reading WAY too much into the behaviour, maybe re-living my own experience, but for me, I too would be DONE with those two drunken idiots, after all of the antics that we saw, and trust that those two probably have hours of tapes of being drunk, I could see how Carole could care less about what was going on. Aviva is most certainly the main instigator in all of the problems, she has major mental issues and is a disaster, she blew this all up and out of proportion, she has to be the center of attention, she has to be “HEARD”, she has to be coddled, she has to have it her way, etc. but I think had Coaster and STDS been a bit more sober, this would have gone down quite a bit differently.

          • Orson says:

            Yeah, but short of restraints, how could you keep Ramonja away from the booze?

            • T-Rex says:

              I didn’t watch the seasons after Bethenny left, until now, so while I saw the Coaster a bit tipsy throughout the years, didn’t realize Coaster and STDS had become such massive drinkers. Look I am not a tee-totaller, I knock back a few now and again, but never to the extreme of these two, especially if I were on camera!

              • RealHousewifeVA says:

                I think there was only one season between when B left and this season, but last season is when they definitely started showing lots of Ramonja drinking

            • LaineyLainey says:

              funny orson! I can just see Samonja/Ramonja fighting the restraints,… Sonja flirting with the attendants; Ramona foaming at the mouth….

              • Called A Princess... says:

                I think Ramona started really drinking when she had the wine to sell. IMO. It seemed to be a way to mention the brand on camera. She was drinking a lot on Scary Island too. So it has been 3 seasons of Ramona drink a lot on camera. Sonja had a DWI, she received, after joining the show, so I do not have much sympathy for her branded of selfishness. JMHO.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      LuAnn is the only logical snake in AvivaDiva’s ear. What I find interesting is that LuAnn did Harry and the Pirate too – but no mention of her slutty ways…. Aviva’s crazy is a very selective weapon.

      • BB says:

        Maybe, just maybe, it’s because Sonja is still good friends with Harry. They may be friends with benefits. Who knows?

      • chismosa says:

        oh WCW did not see your comment before i wrote, i agree with you. The Aviva firing weapon is too centered on Ramona… but good theory BB

        • Called A Princess... says:

          The thought here is that maybe Sonja slept with Harry while Aviva was still married to him while LuLu did after the marriage was over. Also you can really see the pleasure when Sonja talks about him. Distasteful. Ramona is the one that is just friends with Harry and does not want to hear anything negative about him. JMHO.

  25. ATLnNYC09 says:

    Where does mean diva even get off calling Sonja a double dealer? In what way is she not loyal?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Don’t understand the double dealer. Seems that it should be Sonja is a double dipper.

    • BB says:

      I didn’t get most of that conversation between Sonja and Adiva. Must have been about some behind the scenes things we were not in on.

      • Bea says:

        Yeah, I found that conversation to be really confusing too. It seemed to come from nowhere and there are a lot of phrases that didn’t make sense (double dealer?) in the context of what they were supposedly talking about.

      • amalfi says:

        I think she meant Sonja was (probably innocently) telling Harry Aviva’s business while also being friendly-ish to Aviva?

        All I know is that if I were having legal child support issues with my ex, I wouldnt want my full on crazy in on tv every monday for everyone to view in its hd-tv goodness. craaaazeee.

        She still wants to be boffing Harry. I think Reid is cute (although not kind about the overweight remark about Ramonja…I think he was being a good soldier for his wife). Aviva is ungrateful.

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Yeah, I want to know the backstory there!

        All that talk about trust and double dealing…probably did have to do w/her maintaining relationships w/both her and Harry.

        Sonja was right – that AvivaDiva really is a piece of work.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      I think we’ve seen hints of how Sonja plays both sides of the fence (like with Heather and Ramona, Luann and Ramona, etc)

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        That’s true – and we know that AvivaDiva expects absolute fealty from her subjects – otherwise you are treated as a traitor. And there are those BPD traits again.

  26. LaineyLainey says:

    Loved your blog, Lulu!!! I’m feeling sorry for Amy. I hope she snaps out of it!!

  27. JenninFL says:

    Ewww just when you think Kelsey Grammer can’t sink any lower he does! He is a pig!

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/09/kelsey-grammer-video-kayte-walsh-conan

  28. Powell says:

    Good afternoon all. Don’t you just hate 3 hr meetings? Ugh.

    I hope you all survived NY’s 3 hr tour last night. I can’t believe I’m w/Heather. Sonja and Ramona def drank too much on vaca.

  29. RealHousewifeVA says:

    Hello all. Today marks the one year anniversary that my good friend lost her 17 year old son (oldest of her 4 children) to stomach cancer. He had only been diagnosed a couple months prior to losing his life. Was preparing for his senior year of high school and had just bought his first car that previous May.
    Sad day all around. Please keep his parents and family in your thoughts with all others who lost loved ones on this date.

  30. Powell says:

    Most uptight rigid HW-Adiva gets my vote too BB.

  31. cusi77 says:

    OmG, BB! You nailed this Blog to the wall! Hysterical and spot on! Thanks for the laughs!
    Thanks all ladies for the Blogs! Besos!

  32. WindyCityWondering says:

    Everyone survived the circus on Booty Island! And we got a glimpse into the changing of the dynamics AvivaDiva caused by her classless, crass and borish behavior. They all had their own agendas and idea on what this trip should be about. Things I learned: You can’t be a good hostess when you have to babysit a raging asshat. You can’t expect everyone to act like they are in Mrs. Charles third grade class on a fieldtrip. Don’t apologize or demand one when you are totally out of line. Heather got it right – it is a me, me, me group and sometimes you have to just take your own me and retreat to a quiet place.

  33. Checking in one last time before I go off the grid for a few days.

    What did Sonja mean when she told Aviva that she should have trusted her and Ramona. Trusted her to do what? Make Aviva have a successful housewives experience? Were there deals made in the background that Aviva broke? And how did Sonja backstab her?

    Great job on the blog today everyone – Lady C you are absolutely amazing! Anyone blogging remember to send your blogs to Lady C – I won’t even be able to check email for a few days. Off to the wild seas …

    • BB says:

      Have a good time, NMD.

    • chismosa says:

      NMD if you are going away, have a good time–

      I agree, i don’t know what Sonja was referencing… maybe in their intense personal conversations that all the ladies kept saying they individually had with Aviva– not sure. Odd, but i was on Sonja’s side in that argument. Aviva is way out of line. She has so many issues i feel bad for her honestly.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      The Wild Seas!!!! Sounds so cool – have a great time, NMD! The team is taking good care of the site.

    • Lisa Renee says:

      NMD, have the best time being off the grid for a few days. Look forward to the details on your holiday. Safe travels, Lisa

      • Called A Princess... says:

        My guess is that Ramona and Sonja agreed to protect and support Adiva. Which they never would be able to honestly sustain. Adiva is far to needy and they are far too selfish and shallow. Not forgetting LuLu, I think that Bravo production poked Aviva and when she heard LuLu tell her that Ramona and Sonja wanted Reid to leave and go to a hotel, Adiva had a break with reality, as we know it, for the rest, of the trip. That was a very dangerous scene because it should have never gone down that way. Thanks to LuLu. IMO.

  34. FLG (Mr. Tigre's Butler) says:

    Carole’s blog is posted on Bravo.

  35. BB says:

    I just read Carole’s blog. Perhaps she should read up on what a good hostess is.

    • amalfi says:

      meh.

      I’ve got Carole’s number now, so what she writes is too transparent for me to enjoy anymore. Don’t try so hard Carole. You’re on the show. You can’t pretend to be better than they are much longer.

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Yeah, I’m kind of sad about it. I thought she was such a breath of fresh air, but even her colors are showing through. Guess that’s the point of the show, after all.

        • Bea says:

          Me too, I really liked her until this past episode. I think that she could have really helped the situation by shutting Aviva down the first night when she started demanding that Carole make the others leave, but she actually made things worse by setting up the double date. Aviva seems to respect Carole and I think she would have listened to her if she had been direct.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            It is not Carole’s responsibility to raise women into adulthood. By the time Adiva had arrived Carole had already witness a whole lot of childish behavior. She may have given up to soon, but if the objective of reality is to cause conflict, how much is she suppose to step in and fix. Bravo is playing the chess game, we are just watching. IMO.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      There’s a book at the Family Dollar called “Class with the Countess”

    • Jules says:

      I good hostess doesn’t behave one way with one person and another with the other. A good hostess corrects Aviva when she is screaming at others untruths and a great hostess takes offense and DISPLAYS offense to husbands and boyfriends that laugh along when her guest are described as “overweight old ladies.” You never take a stand and it is annoying. Hello, you try to come off as above it all -when yep there you are part of the cast.

    • lizzle says:

      Yep.. totally agree BB. In fact, there was a comment on her blog that very eloquently stated a few reasons why she wasn’t a good hostess. This comment has disappeared.

  36. chismosa says:

    hi everyone, hope everyone has a good day despite it being 9/11.
    BB thanks for the recapping, as well as everyone else!

    my thoughts, so far:

    –Is Aviva a recovering alcoholic or does she have some person/people in her life with drinking problems? She seems to always come down on anyone drinking, even when it does not look “excessive”. It’s quite odd. Plus, she’s on vacation — first time every in St. Barth’s– and she doesn’t have a cocktail at dinner?

    –I agree that Carole is rubbing me the wrong way after this episode. Her “commentary” is not that diplomatic or “elegant” – good call everyone on that.

    Did anyone notice Carole was always LOUNGING when she went to talk with the other women? She always seemed to lay flat the minute there was any discussion about anything. I was laughing watching that!

    –I agree with those who think ADiva was messed up by her father and to be honest I think someone like George, at his current age, regardless of being widowed, has to have been SOMEWHAT like that back when his wife was alive.
    George can’t have turned into this psycho sexual deviant this late in his life without some oddities before (unless this peculiar change is early/dementia). I can’t believe Aviva’s mother was from Germany and would put up with a crazy guy like George. I think Aviva was messed up. You do pick your opposite sex parent as your spouse, they say.

    I have to agree with Ramona saying that ADdiva’s energy is just dark and made the trip heavy. Perfectly said.

    @Mrs Peabody, I totally agreed with your comment las night about Carole’s manners and about ADiva calling out Sonja’s sex life Well said!

    thanks again for the blogs and everyone have a super day.

  37. Sus says:

    I know Ramona and SonJa said something mean about Reid coming before Aviva arrived. But, after they got there, R and S kept their manners until Aviva went berserk because they forgot to roll the red carpet with rose petals out, didn’t have a boys choir serenading the Hello song, no welcome banner and no confetti, no dancing girls, no marching band, and no perverted dirty old man to molest her.
    Once Aviva started up and Lumann pointed out that the women did talk about Reid coming is when R and S got nasty.
    SonJa – I feel sorry for her. T-Rex and Maryla said it brilliantly. Nevermind, Ramona’s drinking, SonJa is starting to look like an alcoholic. Her complexion is terrible this year. I noticed that all the other women jumped in the pool in their dresses. SonJa is the only one that removed hers. I noticed she has little tummy rolls where her tummy tuck ends and needs revising. It’s usually covered by a bathing suit bottom.
    I thought SonJa and Ramona were absolutely disgusting on the boat trip making that guy hold a towel up. They may have been kidding but they came across as women who think they poop little perfect Tiffany packages instead of what really happens. I bet those guys made fun of them afterwards. Asking who they think they are and why are they acting like they are god’s gift.

  38. amalfi says:

    My honest opinion: Ramona is bipolar and an unaware-of-it lesbian. I called it.

    Also, I dig her style of crazy. It is fun to watch …. but only on tv. I hope some of it is an act…not sure.

    • chismosa says:

      i really really don’t think Ramona is bipolar. I know someone who is and also done tons of research on it and she doesn’t seem to exhibit the signs. But, that’s my opinion. My medical opinion. ha ha

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        No, she doesn’t exhibit bipolar traits. She’s got a bit of the Hysterical/Histrionic Personality traits – but, I think she just likes attention and has learned to use over-the-top behavior to get it. She doesn’t really come across as having any sort of disorder.

        I always try to keep in mind that there are a lot of personalities out there that are all over the continuum of whatever “normality” is, but they don’t rise to the threshold of having a disorder.

        • Powell says:

          I think so too Lady C and I think it’s from her childhood. Remember she said she grew up w/an abusive father so I can understand things were crazy and frenzy in her house.

      • amalfi says:

        ok… but complete lesbian though, right?

        Seriously, ‘Mona needs a complete psych eval. I will pay for it.

        • Orson says:

          I think before some people go running to a psychologist for therapy, they ought to get a thorough and complete physical examination. If some synapses are misfiring or chemicals are out of balance, talking to a shrink or getting in touch with one’s feelings isn’t really going to help much.

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          🙂 Amalfi, you’re killing me. I think even the hints at going both ways are just for laughs and to get a reaction.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Like you Amalfi, I dig Ramona’s style of crazy because it is fun to watch (I do not know if I could deal with it in REAL life, though). Ramona does sometimes seem manic, but I never get any depressed vibes from her. So, I’m doubtful on the bipolar.

      I think she has A.D.D., and I also think she is a functional alcoholic (Still love her, and I know she CONSTANTLY says that she does NOT have a drinking problem. I can see how she would say that because she drinks like a fish and still manages to be successful at many things; to be raising a great daughter; and is still married to what looks like, for her, the love of her life. She is very FUNCTIONAL…while still being an alcoholic, IMHO.).

  39. Zoey says:

    If Aviva’s mother was an alcoholic, and we know her father is pretty much a slut, I guess she is really lashing out at her mother and father rather than Ramonja! Whatever her reasons, they are her issues, imo.

  40. chismosa says:

    i honestly don’t think Ramona was that mean towards Aviva and hottest husband Reid. I remember that Ramona was hoping to NOT have issues with Reid and Diva– remember when they went to the real estate place Ramona was hoping to NOT have to leave the house that night. Aviva went on the attack against her first for Ramona having not hired a plane to fly above with a sign saying ‘Welcome Aviva and Reid!’ and not have fireworks over the ocean.

    I mean i know everyone is saying this was NOT a ‘girls’ vacation’ but in all honesty, Bravo or Carole should have not had them come. Carole could have chosen to not film that week away and that’s it. I’m sure Bravo would have found another ‘girls’ vaca for these women. They went to Northern Africa last year for god’s sake. Carole chose to agree to let them come– then deal with it. It is a group vaca. You signed onto this ridiculous show so own it! You didn’t HAVE to take them with you. Did you not watch other seasons of Ramona and Sonja having fun? Get with it Carole, i’m just not buying it anymore. I like that Carole can enjoy Ramonja in small doses, but she needs to understand what this trip truly was.
    Aviva going nutso–Carole should have sort of sided with Ramona and Sonja and the ever quiet snake Luann.

    Luann was super sneaky/snake-y in St. Barths, and not just in regards to Johnny Depp.

    I realize Sonja is not doing well but i still find her fun, she is very empathetic with those around her- i think she meant it when Carole was like ‘i was hurt today’ – i think Sonja was drunk but honestly felt sad that Carole was hurt. I get that she is filled with nostalgia, i am very nostalgic myself about my past so i get it. She’ll move on, in her own time. I love Ramona and Sonja’s friendship. It’s very true.
    And sorry, i know everyone thinks Sonja and Ramona have serious drinking problems but they were away on vacation. I drink a bit when i’m away (well you know, pina coladas in the afternoon, bloody Mary in the a.m., then nighttime… if you think about it… )

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Yeah, vacation time is party time for me and the Lord C, as well. I tend to think that we don’t get sloppy, but who really knows how they appear after they’ve had a few?

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I love Ramona and Sonja’s friendship. I think it’s TRUE BLUE. They both accept each other AS IS.

  41. trudie says:

    BB, I loved the way you handled the blog today. Fabulous job!

    It seems to me that the whole trip changed when Aviva and Reid turned up. Nobody seemed to have a problem with Samonja’s drinking and carrying on until Aviva showed up and put it on the loud speaker over and over again. The other women got along and had fun; nobody felt the need to “babysit” Samonja before the Headmistress showed up. Aviva is like a Dementor (Harry Potter reference) – she sucks the fun out of every situation.

    I know that everyone grieves in their own time and in their own way. Perhaps Carole going to the island where she spent happy times with her husband wasn’t a good idea. Surely Russ was playing in other locales. I think it dredged up too many memories and issues for Carole.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      She IS like a dementor – even her facial expression has an evil, dreaded, run for your life, look about it. I don’t like her – no longer on the fence.

    • BB says:

      Thanks, Trudie

    • Powell says:

      Heather did say she was having fun w/Ramona and Carole and LuAnn were enjoying everything too. Aviva was totally wrong w/her rants against Ramona and Sonja but I wish that Ramona and Sonja would have just went w/the flow of things since they couldn’t change it and just have fun.

    • Ça va says:

      It was awfully convenient that of all the shows Russ played at she decided to go to St. Barth’s. Sounds like classic Bravo manipulation. What better way to capitalize on her connection by marriage to the late President Kennedy’s wife and children then to have her revisit a place she had been introduced to by her husband, Jackie O’s nephew, with the hope that she would spill some beans, reveal Kennedy secrets. Isn’t that the real reason she is on the show? What a feather in Andy’s cap! Now his sleazy franchise has a connection, however tenuous, to the legend of Camelot.

  42. lovemamaearth says:

    Hey all… someone here said they know how to get a pay blog account with some company. I can’t remember who…. was it Rebecca? I need some advice.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      I swear I was just scrolling down the comments so I can see if you posted today because I was going to ask if anyone had seen you! I hope you are doing okay LME. You left chat quickly last night and I just wanted to make sure you were ok.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        Oh you’re so sweet RHWVA!!!! xoxo Yes yesterday was just a pit for me. Sorry to be a downer for anyone. I’ll apologize for future failings too cuz I’m way too human for my taste. And to anyone whose computers are overheating NortheastLurker told me a bout a tray fan & it works pretty well as far as I can tell. Thanks to all for the fun chat and companionship.

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          LME, I was having that problem w/my laptop. I figured out how to remove one of the compartments from the bottom (where the cooling fan runs) and blew out the dust bunnies. Problem went away.

        • Realhousewifeva says:

          No need to apologize, lord knows I have many of those days. Was just concerned. Glad you are doing okay 🙂

  43. PJ says:

    I don’t agree with everything Sonja does but it is clear that she is really vulnerable right now and has had a lot of disappointment and heart ache. I just can’t abide someone kicking a person who is down in the head repeatedly till they cry and bleed at the same time. This is what Adiva does, she has absolutely no compassion for anyone else but herself. It looks like Adiva continues on her self righteous rant next episode.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Yeah, she really goes for the jugular, doesn’t she? And if she sees that she’s drawn blood – she amps it up. Piece of work, that one.

      And did you notice that what set her off in the kitchen was seeing Sonja flirt w/the houseboy? She’s jealous of Sonja’s sexuality. It’s all about Harry.

      • BB says:

        Yes, Adiva was correct when she said once she gets going on something, she’s relentless. She is.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          and Carole was correct when Aviva made that comment about being relentless, Carole told her “that’s not a good quality”

      • T-Rex says:

        Aviva most certainly still has a “sore” spot when it comes to Harry, she hates that Sonja slept with him, but so did LuMan, but I think the difference was Aviva was STILL married to Harry when Sonja did the deed. I had heard that Aviva took it very poorly when her Harry’s antics were posted all over Page6 about all the affairs he had. So Sonja is right there front and center and Aviva seems to be taking all the rage directly out on her. STDS got “around” a lot before she was married, I think that’s why a lot of folks were SHOCKED when Morgan married her. With that being said, I am astonished that ReidyBoy doesn’t curb her behaviour regarding her ex, like ask her to get some therapy since she still clearly LOVES Harry and is just with Reid because he is a convenience.

    • Powell says:

      Sonja has been talking to convince herself that she’s ok. She keeps saying she’s moved on, it’s her ex-husband’s loss. She’s grieving the lo of her marriage and lifestyle. She’s got to get a hold on her life cause she’s got a daughter to raise and the rest of her life to live.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I agree, don’t kick someone when they’re down. Would a little compassion kill you, Aviva? She’s a cruel one, that one .

      • Bea says:

        That is exactly how I would descibe her – cruel. It’s one thing if she went to Sonja and was actually worried about her, but with Aviva it’s pure venom.

  44. shamrock blonde says:

    first – 11 years ago today my cousin, an NYC firefighter was murdered along with 342 of his brethern – . September 11, 2001 is the the story of all the heroes, and for me it will be a day of remembrance and a constant reminder of the enduring spirit of the American people.The first heroes, the crew and passengers of the planes, who were the first to understand that which was to come, were the first to rise up against it. The Firefighters, Police, EMTs and rescue workers who responded without hesitation gave their lives so that others might keep theirs. Heroes all, they stood amid destruction, death and uncertainty refusing to walk away, instead pressing on against a nightmare made all too real. Families who lost one of their own, each reaching outward first, caring more about each other than themselves, refusing to face the future in fear, choosing instead to meet it with courage, dignity and pride. In defiance of terror and evil, we stood together united not only in sorrow, but in strength and courage, once again showing the world what it is to be American

    I was at his memorial service – then Mayor Guilliani spoke about him, saying that everyone loved his sense of humor, his deep and abiding love for his wife and son, and his committment to the NYFD. He told his son that his Dad was a hero, and would never be forgotten – today as I do each year, I listened to the reading of the names and stood when his name was called – as heavy as my heart was that day, it was also during the days that followed that made me even more proud to be an American – never – ever -ever – forget – remember them all – and thank you to our military past, present and future for securing our safety at home and abroad

    *hugs SoutheastVA and the entire board really hard*
    as for the ladies – I am hoping that Carole used the double date thing to keep warring parties apart and give Ramona and Sonja time to party their way and give her a chance to have dinner and drinks with coherent people – otherwise, it was a bad move on her part – as for the others – they wee all true to form –

    please go home and hug your loved ones very hard tonight – life is so fleeting, so fragile – and evil is still out there – my love to you all –

  45. trudie says:

    Just watched Jaq on Anderson Cooper. She and Chris both used the word “recover” in talking about their son. Chris also hinted that they will be back for another season because the show would be a great platform to talk about autism.

    • BB says:

      I hope they use the show appropriately and responsibly as a platform to talk about autism. I’m not sure that’s the route I’d take, but I’m not in their situation.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      They are going to use the show to exploit their son? Nice. I think they need the money.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sorry – RHNJ is not an appropriate platform to talk about autism, rather it would be a disgusting display of using their son to secure a paycheck. Gross and shady.

    • MelTheHound says:

      Have they been invited back? Maybe it’s just me but Jac has kind of poisoned any sympathy most might have for her. I know she has her fans here but if she’s going to use the show as a platform, she’d better put the wino twitter phone down. They need to stop with that recover bullshit too and concentrate on making sure that kid has the best chance at a near normal life. I somehow doubt they even know the full scope of what they are dealing with.

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Using their spot on the show could be a good thing – IF they access good information and share it. If they are poorly informed and not well-educated on the subject and make unsupportable or misleading claims…well, they’re not going to like the public response.

      • Contessa says:

        Totally agree with everyone here. Many have written in about them using the word “recovery”…and it has been educational for me with regard to Autism. However I do not think the HW show is an appropriate place to bring attention to Autism. First and foremost she needs to stop twittering drunken foolishness pronto and get with the program with regard to her son. I think she also needs to drop Caro from her radar and she and Chris need to get educated to care for their son and be around positive people.

      • MelTheHound says:

        I think they need to get as far away from Bravo and that hyena Andy as possible.

  46. BB says:

    Sonja’s blog is up and she blasted A-Diva and Carole. Whew!

  47. T-Rex says:

    Okay just read Carole’s blog and she pretty much gives a dig at everyone, there must be a whole lot of mess behind the scenes we did not see. Look I know I give Carole a pass, but wowza I would be SO way more irritated if this was my adventure and folks really did act like this! Okay so, obviously STDS was a true handful, can’t imagine it was anyone else that wanted a private butler, had panties all over the floor, and wanted to sleep with anything that moved, yikes and with no meds, wonder what meds she is on and note most Meds frown upon the use of alcohol in large quantities. Obviously LuMan was scarce in the last couple of episodes because of her behaviour as well, I agree bringing home uninvited random folks from a bar is NOT cool, and apparently she knew she was busted, and there is nothing grosser than finding cigarette butts all over the place(even when I was a smoker this was disgusting). Coaster must have once again taken over “staff” management(she needs to stop that), and of course drank WAY too much. Carole totally slams Adiva as well, she pegged her pretty clearly and again we didn’t see what all went on, no one got a free pass, well I think Heather did, but from what we have seen, Heather was the only normal one there(Carole gave herself a free pass too, she will be slammed for that here as her punishment).

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Props to Carole – she didn’t give anyone a pass on their behavior including herself.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Hmmm….is Carole one-upping Luann and Sonja w/her “Tom Cruise” look-alike French lover?

      She’s becoming a little predictable.

    • BB says:

      Yes, she will T-Rex. She was a terrible hostess. Awful. As I said upthread. Perhaps she needs to read up on being a good hostess instead of telling everyone how to be a good guests. They are all culpable, including Miss Cool herself.

      • mardrag26 says:

        BB…I have to agree. I usually don’t read their blogs and wait for the recaps here…..they are so much better….but I wanted to read Carole’s and boy was I disappointed. She took no responsibility, as a good hostess should, for her part/lack there of in anything. It was just potshot after potshot and then a laundry list of how to be a good guest?? It sadly sounded like a remix of Adiva’s laundry list (I could hear her voice through it)….and Carole lost a lot of rungs in my estimation. The comments on her blog reflect that this is how most people are feeling as well.

        Having said that…I have been a hostess and a guest….there is respect and responsibility paramount to BOTH roles. She missed that point in my estimation.

        Can’t wait to see the recap here! 🙂

        • Contessa says:

          I read all the blogs on Bravo, and I am very disappointed in Caroles. If she didn’t like something going on, she was the “supposed” bravo hostess of this vacay. She made a point about the master bedroom – who cares – as she wanted privacy in the bungalows below the main villa. Sonja’s blog was pretty good….I suggest a quick jump over to read these as they are interesting pov of how they all see themselves and others. Sonja took a few swipes at Carole, but mostly at adiva – pos. I really dislike Adiva – more than she who should not be named. I don’t even want to get started on Reid cause he is now on the same level as his garbage wife. She DOES NOT have phobias, she is a narcissist through and through, spoiled by her wealthy parents and totally indulgent only child. They tried to make up for her accident and all they did create a nasty judgmental beyotch.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I say Borderline Personality Disorder.

            You say Narcissist.

            TOE-MAY-TOE

            TOE-MAH-TOE.

            Bottom Line: Aviva is a self-absorbed, entitled, spoiled, angry, mean and CRAZY (We just do not know what KIND of crazy yet) PAIN IN THE ASS BITCH! Not that I have an opinion on her or anything….

            I’m actually finally watching the episode now.

            • Contessa says:

              You are our resident shrink…can’t wait for your comments after you see the show!

              • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                O.K., Contessa. I watched. My opinion about Aviva still stands with regard to the way I described her.

                As for the diagnosis, I am wondering if a person can have more than one personality disorder at a time. I actually think this might be possible (For instance, I think Taylor Armstrong is possibly a SOCIOPATH and a HISTRIONIC PERSONALITY and a BORDERLINE PERSONALITY all in one. You would think that, carrying ALL of THAT weight, Taylor wouldn’t be so damned skinny, huh?).

                It looks to me like Aviva is a COMBO PLATE of NARCISSISM and BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER with a SIDE ORDER of CONDESCENDING, STICK-UP-HER-ASS BITCH. I am going to consult my medical journals on the “condescending, stick-up-her-ass bitch” condition she has. I need more details on that.

  48. VV says:

    Auto Tuned blog is up

  49. RealHousewifeVA says:

    AllaboutTRH.com has lots of inside scoop about the NJ reunion. Just FYI for anyone who hasn’t read it yet.

    I don’t know why they always call these things EPIC. It’s just a bunch of women yelling at eachother and trying to throw out the biggest accusation.

  50. RealHousewifeVA says:

    I saw a clip of Jac on Anderson, and I hate to sound catty but she looks awful (in my opinion). Major bloat going on.

    And I just don’t understand why Anderson had to push the whole “Has Teresa been supportive? Really? Has she? I can’t imagine anyone not being supportive of autism” crap. We know you are Andy’s boytoy now, but please Anderson, stick to what you do best and leave the drama for the Housewives and Andy. Teresa and Jac haven’t spoken and have no relationship any longer, does he actually expect Teresa to go running to Jac’s house because she revealed her son has autism? I hardly think that means she doesn’t support autism.

    • trudie says:

      I saw the show too and was surprised that Anderson and Niecy Nash commented on T. But, I notice in my day to day conversations about the HW shows, most people aren’t as consumed with the behind the scenes stuff, timelines, articles, etc., and as a result only know what they see on the show. As of the last few shows, Jaq and T were good, so I can understand people being surprised that T hasn’t reached out.

      • BB says:

        To be honest, Anderson has lost a little credibility in my book by hanging around with the likes of Andy Cohen and Kathy Griffin (I know, everybody loves Kathy Griffin). I guess he thinks his talk show has to “go there” because I don’t think he’s getting good ratings. I was expecting his talk show to be on par with Ellen Degeneres, but he doesn’t have the personality she has to carry it off. Don’t know how to explain it, but I’m kind of disappointed in Anderson.

  51. trudie says:

    Aviva really has a way with words. First, the Rush Limbagh comment and then comparing Sonja to Anna Nicole Smith. She should try her hand at the Comedy Club.

  52. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Great blog ladies! Happy Birthday to Jillz and Maryla!

    Last nights epi of RHONY was a flustercluck! Goodness was UNVAVIVABLE high off the smell of her own leg varnish or what? (PC OUT THE WINDOW… BITCH CRAZY). This whore-rrid skeleton shows up demanding banners, parades and parties oh my! How I wish someone would’ve told her “What the Fok For?” Ever since she arrived to the island she was the pin in everyone’s hot air balloon. As she said and proved consistently, the trip was about her. Her eunich of a husband calling Ramonja ‘overweight old ladies gone wild’ was disgusting! While trying to gain brownie points from his wife by attacking the object of her disdain, he managed to alienate viewers who thought he was a ‘nice guy’. Nope. They’re just 2 assholes who really deserve each other.

    Aviva saying that Ramonja didn’t want any witnesses was ridiculous. Yes Aviva they were hiding from your husband but not from 2-3 million viewers. Idiot from Vassur much?

    As for Carole I never really felt the love this blog had for her. To me she looks like FireMarshallBill aka JimCarrey’s fireman with her q-tip head and whore-rendous over bite and chiclet veneers. She claims she invited everyone to watch her ‘man’ and I believe it. He’s been pimping this human toothpick since moment one! Ever notice it’s alllllll about his career/shows. Never just a date. It’s always a show, riding around playing his music, a showcase…. anything to further his career. Give it a rest! You’re angry Ramonja didn’t go because you knew BRAVO wouldn’t film it if everyone isn’t there. Ramonja was totally within their rights to not attend your ‘boyfriends’ performance as you dumped them plenty and changed the itinerary many times during the trip. Finally who the hell would want to spend any further time with Aviva…. oh I know… SCIENTISTS!

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Amber, you are right on – it appears that Carole’s resentment is about Ramonja ditching her BF’s event – and taking the cameras w/them. Good for them! She just stood by and let Aviva sucker punch them over and over and over again. I would have ditched the bitches, too.

      • mardrag26 says:

        You know…good points ladies. Carole and Aviva made their own decision to set up a couples dinner excluding everyone else (one example) but Ramonja couldn’t make their own decision about attending the concert? Double standard!

        Not taking that “one way train” folks. It is off the tracks!

        • mardrag26 says:

          P.S. I feel like a high school kid playing hookey! LOL! I never make it back here in the afternoons and am supposed to be doing some work, but it is pouring down rain here and my mind is just not on it. Glad you guys are here to play hookey with! 🙂

    • BB says:

      ROFLMAO. Amber, you have such a way with words!

    • Winston says:

      Apparently Reid thinks that any woman with more than one leg is overweight.
      I had to laugh last night when I googled Carol Radziwill, some search suggestions that popped up were “Carol Radziwill’s teeth” so her teeth are a curious subject for many.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Amber, you are so funny with your choice words and thus the hilarious images that are conjured up in my brain as a result. If I had a multiple personality, I would really love for one of them to be you. So quick and clever and such clarity…. Dang!!!

  53. lovemamaearth says:

    Today’s anniversary makes me remember back to 2001. We were all in shock, mourning, and stunned for months afterward.

    One thing I’d like to say is regarding the people affected. And forgive me if I don’t say this right. But I donated money to the 911 fundraising. At no time did I think any widows would become millionaires from it. At no time did I think that first, second or third responders would be lacking health care and in poverty now because of ill health caused by pollution from 911.

    Those responders were as much a victim as those who lost loved ones. Why wasn’t the money spread around a little better or put into funds to put the children through college and for health care needs. (One thing that comes to mind is Oprah’s interview with a widow)

    And Lady Chatterley if this comment is inappropriate, feel free to delete. It’s been bothering me. Thank you to all responders of tragedies who risk lives and limbs.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Not at all, LME, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.

    • Powell says:

      love you are so right. Why wasn’t the money spread around better? Because there were too many agencies in the decision making process, too many hands in it.

    • Lulu says:

      Couldn’t agree more!

      Just reminds me of a Ted talk I watched some time ago.
      I can’t remember the location but there was a tornado that passed through and caused lots of damage. At that time help was pouring in money, food, and help. But no one to delegate what is needed by who. These 2 young ladies took the bull by the horns and was able to successfully not only deliver proper supplies but helped the town rebuild in no time. They spoke of when a disaster occurs people want to help their hearts are in the right place. They end up sending useless supplies or worse forgetting in a short time. By using social media and asking for specific aid is what rebuilds towns. It was pretty interesting.

  54. Howdy Kids… I am just too lazy today to retype my comment so am just going to paste what i posted at The Farm ( Empress )
    Hope it brings a giggle to you….

    Home from a semi B O R I N G day at the “office”… Actually helped to capture a burglary suspect today…So EXCITING !!!!
    Was standing outside having a smoke when this guy POPPED around the corner of the building.. Our towns super wal mart is behind our building…
    He was filthy dirty and I could tell he was higher than a kite… He asked if he could use the phone and I politely told him no that it was a business phone and I was waiting for a call, which I was… Something about him gave me the HEEBIE JEEBIES….so he went into the leather store two doors down …. SOOOO… I go back inside and then 2 cops show up and talk to the kid outside holding the sign.. They leave..I go out and ask the kid what did they want..and of course they are LOOKING FOR THIS GUY for burglary in the wal mart parking lot…I asked the kid..did you tell them he went into the leather store ?/ UMMMMM no I forgot…FORGOT..it was like 5 minutes ago !!!..what a dip shit…
    So just then here the guy comes out of the store.. crossing the highway acting all kinds of squirrely looking around like he’s checking to see if any cops are around..he goes across the street to a dumpster and tries to cover himself up with cardboard..Sorry kids..at this point I cant help but laugh outloud… So we call 911 and WHAP…4 cop cars… the guy starts to run..IDIOT… they fling him around and he acts all kinds of dumb..UH WAT DID I DO OCCIFER ??? the cop yells at him..put your effing hands on the hood of the car and spread your legs….So after going thru all his pockets and putting what they found in plastic bag..they loaded him up and took him to county for 3 hots and a cot…. A few people had gathered to watch all this taking place. and this short heavy set lady in a colorful moooomoooo says…now thats there some “white trash ”
    OMG..I had a mouthful of lemon tea that just came spewing out my mouth when she said that…I kinda laughed at her and asked her if she was KIN to Aviva….. she just gave me that WTF look…I told her it was a long story ….. and laughed and went back to the “office”…
    So that was my tuesday…!!! whoop whoop….
    Hope Wed is just as much fun !!!!!

    Diva

  55. Nancy says:

    This sure seems like Aviva…

    Narcissists have unreasonable expectations of people and situations. They feel they are
    entitled to favorable treatment and unquestioning compliance with their hopes and
    expectations. Other people are suppose to acquiesce to their wishes.

  56. catmom1 says:

    Just read a great recap by Brian Moylan. I think he used to write at Vulture. Always loved his sense of humor. The recap is an entertaining, albeit long, read. Worth it just for the first paragraph alone.
    It’s on Hollywood.com.

    • BB says:

      Julie Klausner also has a hilarious recap on Vulture.com. Just google Julie Klausner Real Housewives of New York and it will take you right there. It’s a real giggle-fest

      • catmom1 says:

        Thanks for reminding me about her. Really enjoy her writing as well. Very funny recap. One of my favorite parts was, “I think Sonja has a beautiful heart — I wish she’d break through to be more self-protective. There’s a time and place for debt-fueled butt sex, booze, and bruises, and it’s called college.”

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I LOVE Julie Klausner too. She is an excellent writer that cracks me up. She had the Beverly Hills Housewives DOWN (She loved Brandi. The way she described how Brandi stole and ruled the first part of last season’s Reunion was hilarious and accurate and brilliant).

        I have to catch up on her RHONY recaps.

      • Ça va says:

        Another great line from Julie, “Don’t call women who are not fat fat. Like Reid is fit to shine Jon Hamm’s dick’s shoes?” Hell, Reid isn’t fit to suck Jon Hamm’s dick, no matter how much he’d like to! 😉

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I agree. The blog, “Celebitchy” has so many pics of Jon Hamm in a suit or regular slacks, and let’s just say it is obvious that ol’ Jon goes commando. “Celebitchy” always specifically points it out in each pic too.

          Let’s just say that based on those pix, I agree with both you and Julie Klausner.

          I would also like to say that Jon Hamm’s girlfriend, Jennifer Westfeldt, is one LUCKY BITCH!!

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Oh my God! I LOVE Brian Moylan. Did he ever write for Gawker as well? It seems like I’ve seen his name over there, but I could be wrong.

  57. Angela says:

    I felt so sorry for Carole last night-she seemed so uncomfortable w/all the bickering & talk of small planes. Aviva is very insensitive while demanding everyone be sensitive to her phobias. I hope Heather requests not inviting Ramona to London now-since she had do much fun w/her in St Barts. Wackie Jackie on BBW-LA must have some kind of potion she used on her husband bcuz everybody else can see her cray cray except him. He must be theist patient, calm, easy going person EVER cyz I have no idea how he deals w/her. The crickets when she came to Gloria’s dinner were evident. I plan to buckle my seat belt for this season. Thanks for the recaps & the blog-I’m sure Lynn is glad we all stayed together.

  58. mardrag26 says:

    Okay…I gave up and put the work away and was watching repeats of HWNY and I just noticed something….this is the epi where Aviva and Reid arrive. They drive up and and right away, Sonja hands Ramona her bikini top and they get out of the pool while everyone else is saying hello. No one was looking while Sonja wraps a towel around herself, and they go to join the group and say hello.

    I never noticed this before….but the next scene shows Sonja standing next to Reid and they are talking, just the two of them. The camera cuts to Aviva….and she is looking at them, then down, then at them again with a look on her face that says she is not happy.

    This woman is afraid of Sonja and her wandering vajajay. Since she already slept with Harry, she is deathly afraid she will do the same with Reid….and so she goes after her…right for the jugular, to put her in her place, and belittle her behavior as beneath herself and Reids. Hence the white trash comment. She wants to make sure Sonja thinks herself as white trash and not good enough to move in on Reid. It is her twisted way of saying stay away from my husband.

    I did not catch that look before…but it explained it all. She is crushingly insecure That is why she has to look down on everyone else, because she is so low in her own self-esteem that she has to over-react to set herself higher. Couple that with her massive ego, and voila!

    Ok….side-chair psychological assessment done! LOL!

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Ooo, now I’ve got a reason to watch again!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Great job, Mardrag!!! the wandering “vajayjay”??^^^^so funny!!!

    • Eastbayca says:

      Good points on why Aviva went after Sonja with an axe.
      I don’t think Sonja would sleep with Reid, she has experienced that pain…remember her ex JP Morgan cheated on Sonja with her best friend.

      • mardrag26 says:

        Agree Eastbayca…I don’t think Sonja would sleep with Reid either…but Aviva does. I am just watching last nights epi again too, and that shouting match in the kitchen between those two that was referenced upthread as being confusing……well, I listened closely this time and Aviva shouts about 5 times, “You were wrong, you were wrong” and “You should just apologize to me”. It was so edited up I couldn’t tell the sequence…but that argument was totally about Harry. And Aviva wants Sonja to know she is “watching” her behavior. As if she now has a right to be Sonja’s “housemother”. She kept saying over and over how Sonja brings home strange men to sleep with. She is paranoid it will one day be Reid. (never a mention that Loo Loo did the EXACT same thing, it’s all about Sonja).

        Sigh…crap…now I have to watch the epi’s more than once.

        Double crap….I also did not get any work done this afternoon! 😦

        • NJBev says:

          Mardrag,
          so well re-capped with all the most astute commentaries.
          you have pin-pointed the issues so clearly.
          Very well done. I am impressed. 🙂

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Yes, her trigger is any time she sees Sonja turning on the seduction routine. She did it in the kitchen , as well, when Sonja was flirting up the house boy. Aviva is a nutcase and is incredibly threatened by Sonja’s sexuality.

  59. grandmadebi says:

    hi all, i haven’t read the blog yet but i’m watching “teen mom” finale and my head is going to explode. i want to shake these selfish girls until they have shaken teen syndrom esp. farriah. macy is bad but my lord farriah is beyond bad. how can they be parents and spoiled brats at the same time….. bbl just had to try to keep my head intact by ranting and knew ya’ll would listen. thanks, debi

    • NJBev says:

      its so ok debi, that’s what the board is here for.
      I totally get it, bunch of morons rearing another
      group of children who could possibly succeed
      if given the right “upbringing” it’s like watching
      another beautiful brain go bad~~~ IMHO

  60. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Im glad this day is almost over-happy Parenthood is starting tonight-I need a little regular TV before i go to bed tonight!!!

  61. Lulu says:

    What was the one comment Cujo made that was kinda on the same lines as the Rush Limbaugh comparison?

  62. lillybee says:

    Up thread someone was wondering if Aviva had someone whispering in her ear about
    Ramona. I remember reading that JillZ has said that she was in touch with Aviva. Things that made one go ummmm.

  63. ATLnNYC09 says:

    I find it so weird that Aviva and Fran Drescher are cousins. It seems like she would be more likely to be related to Jill Zarin.

  64. Cartwheels says:

    OMG, it finally dawn on me what has been bothering me for a couple of days now. I rewatched the RHNJ episode and it finally came on me.

    Caroline has her guess spot on SiriusXM radio on October 9th, so if the timeline presented here is correct :
    Poshe Fashion show = September 29th
    Filming of reunion season 3= October 1st
    Fabellini party= October 7th
    Caroline radio show = October 9th

    How is it possible that Melissa filmed that scene with Caroline the day before the radio show? That must have been October 8th, the Poshe event had already happened and also the reunion, so Melissa and Caroline have already declared war on Teresa.

    Was this another staged scene recreated by the production team?
    How could it be Melissa calling Caroline on her behavior and acted like she was okay with Teresa if those two big blow outs have already happened?

    If they recreated the scene, then the two of them are more evil and manipulative than what I originally thought. They both, probably with the complicity of the very bias production team filmed this scene to make it look like Melissa was trying to be the peacemaker and calling Caroline out on her behavior with the notion than the better Melissa looks, the worst it reflects on Teresa.

    What were the rumors I read about the production team? is it true that they were all fired? It doesn’t seem likely since Bravo is still holding onto the awful editing job that they did. What is going on?

    • BB says:

      Those are all good questions Cartwheels. I know there was one producer who was really close to the Manzos who was fired, but I can’t remember the story behind it. I’m definitely not a RHONJ expert. I never even watched it much until this season.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I do not know if it is truth or rumor, Cartwheels, but I have read on more than one blog that the entire production crew was fired. I find it strange that only one particular woman’s name was mentioned more than once as being a fired producer, though. So, maybe it was just that one producer.

      The way BRAVO is manipulating the timelines (which is probably what they have been doing with every show all along) sucks. I also think that BRAVO has their cast members to do Talking Head interviews during the season based upon viewer response (For instance, if there is a backlash against a particular cast member BRAVO seems to favor, they will make that cast member recorda a more sympathetic or favorable Talking Head so BRAVO can splice it in and try to turn the public tide back in favor of one of their “chosen ones.”).

      • NJBev says:

        This season was filmed a year ago. It seems to me that the entire
        show was produced very well, but it was a year ago. I would think the
        entire production staff was replaced at his point, not fired. We
        still haven’t even heard about any new filming started yet, so who could be
        fired or what?

        They are probably just appointing the production team now~~
        producers dont last too long on any of these shows, unless they
        are “Executive Producer” with first mention~~~

        • I Need A Housewives Detox Program says:

          I understand what you are saying NJBev, but WHY would an entire production staff be replaced if, as you say, the show was produced “very well”?

          If BRAVO thought that, then there would be no need to replace the producers — particularly the entire production crew, right?

          From my understanding, the different housewives shows are produced by different production teams that REMAIN with that particular show through the seasons. There HAS been much talk over the course of the past few months that either one or ALL (maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle) of the production team were let go because of the unfavorable response to the extreme anti-Giudice slant (with NO pointing out of any of the other families “skeletons” or possible embarrassing situations) AND because of the fact that the production crew allegedly got unprofessional and way too friendly with the Manzo’s, Wakile’s and Gorga’s (I’m not too sure about the Laurita’s). It was only the Giudices who, based on all of the tweets, were not “buddy-buddy” with the production team. So, if you like someone — even as a professional — someone “human,” might just be so inclined to give that person a favorable edit over another. No offense.

  65. Cartwheels says:

    Sorry for the rant, I forgot to put the link of Lauren Manzo retweet talking about her mom’s guest appereance dated October 9th 2011

    http://www.twylah.com/Laurenmanzo/tweets/123058142933303296

    Don’t know if the link would go through, I hope it does, just in case

    RT @DJJamesAnthony: @CarolineManzo and the family are live today on @SiriusXM Stars 104 5-7p…One of the few times I’m excited to go to work on a Sunday

    Oct 9

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