More on Paul Nassif and Adrienne Maloof / Ratings / Flipping Out / Real Housewives of New Jersey Cast Blogs

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Thing have gotten even uglier in the divorce between Adrienne Maloff and Paul Nassif.  Normally when abuse is alleged – it is hard to clear your name.  This time  – according to a report by TMZ – Paul has already been cleared by the Department of Children and Family Services.  After interviewing the boys, they’ve written a report: “categorically concluding there was no such abuse.”  According to TMZ sources:  “Paul is going to court Wednesday to ask a judge to throw out the temporary custody order — along with the order prohibiting Paul from going near his kids — on grounds Adrienne phonied the claim.  What’s more, we’re told Paul will ask for sanctions against his estranged wife, claiming she viciously concocted the abuse story to get revenge.”  One additional tidbit of information from the article.  Dr. Sophy – Taylor Armstong’s doctor, had previously submitted something claiming he interviewed the boys and they verified the abuse.  The really strange thing is that Sophy is in charge of DCFS for LA County.  TMZ didn’t report if it was the same agency (could be a different county or the state?).  See an older article here.  Early this morning, TMZ posted a new exclusive report after they heard from Paul.  Paul will be asking for joint custody of the boys, saying the kids need a mom and dad.  His quote:  “I just want this crap to stop.  We need to be co-parents, no matter how we feel about each other.”  Paul and Adrienne’s mansion – featured on the show – is also on the market.

The Maloof family’s basketball team – the Sacramento Kings – has been featured on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.  Yesterday the Seattle City Council approved building a new sports stadium.  Rumor has it that the Kings are the team Seattle billionaire Chris Hanson has his eyes on.  I’m not a big basketball fan – but here’s an interesting article on how the Maloof family has really done some major PR damage in Sacramento.  Read it Here

Teresa Giudice will be on Anderson Live today.

Rosie Pierri was the darling of the Real Housewives of New Jersey this season, winning Andy’s Mazel of the NJ season on Sunday. The next day she was under twitter fire for a video posted on Bravo’s site with Rosie screaming obscenities at her cousin Teresa Giudice.  This is a departure for the normally unflappable Rosie – who emerged as a fan favorite during the dark season.  Rosie was frustrated on twitter yesterday, responding to a tweet about Teresa: “she was never by my side my sister always was! oh the bullshit just gets better &better !”

Bethenny Frankel’s talk show was not only picked up, but it’s been picked up by FOX and will be shown nationally.  Bethenny tweeted out the news Monday night and has posted information on her website.

Looks like Flipping Out will begin to heat up this season.  Jenni Pulos and Jeff Lewis have an interview with US Weekly where they discuss the big fight that almost led to the end of their relationship – both professional and personal.  “Any time you’re doing a major remodel with your spouse it’s very stressful.  Doing that and trying to balance our business was challenging and the relationship took its toll. I acted out on Gage, on Jenni, on [maid] Zoila [Chavez]. It was kind of a rough season for me.”  Fans of the show will see Jenni and Jeff go to therapy to work things out. “I’ve never been so angry with Jenni and we’ve never had a fight like that. It was out of control,” Jeff is quoted as saying.

Ratings Gold.  Viewers were far from done with the Real Housewives of New Jersey.  The season finale brought in the highest ratings of the season (watched by 3.4 million viewers) and second highest finale (nothing has topped the table flip in S1 yet).  Not only that – but the Watch What Happens Live episode that followed (with Kelly and Mark) brought in 2.2 million viewers – which are enormous numbers for the talk show and the first time it’s been over the 2 million viewer mark.  Compare this to this season’s Real Housewives of New York which declined in viewership slightly this week to 1.7 million viewers.  People don’t seem to like the same fight dragged out for 5 weeks in a row, and the endless stream of charity events and lunches are beginning to lose viewer’s interest.  Perhaps the veterans – LuAnn, Ramona, and Sonja, should have agreed to the rumored Producers’ request to extend filming into Fashion Week last winter.  According to Huffington Post in April of last year:  “LuAnn [de Lesseps], Sonja [Morgan] and Ramona [Singer] refused to shoot any scenes at Fashion Week in February, complaining that production was dragging on well past the date that was agreed upon, so they went on strike.  Ultimately, they did return to tape a final few scenes, but it’s not fair that they should have to give up their time, with no extra pay, just so the slower new girls can learn how to tape a TV show.”  Read it here   Carole Radziwill had tweeted a while back that she needed to be in New York for filming through the fall – but other than that we haven’t heard much about who is returning.

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Flipping Out  – “Talented Mr. Coleman” By Keida

The opening scene is Jenny feeding cream cheese to a cat.  Ew.  So Andrew (Coleman) has a new haircut and Jeff says it looks like Gage, which I think will ruffle Gage’s feathers.  I don’t like Gage.  Well, because of his inappropriate comments Andrew is on probation, so Jeff sends him to Gramercy to clean the stove.  Andrew smiles and says okay.  He really hates it, but he doesn’t say a word.  Is he learning?  I doubt it.  Jeff says that no longer will he fire anyone; it costs too much.  Now he’ll just make the working environment impossible so they quit.  Of course, Gage gets in his passive aggressive dig.  Jeff and Jenny head over to Lisa’s office, but she’s busy, so they play with her shoes, Kangoos.  They look like weird stilt like shoes that are aerodynamically bouncy athletic shoes, or something.  But they make so much noise running up and down the hallway that an executive complains about them.  Not wanting to aggravate his powerful client, both Jenny and Jeff sit down quickly and act professional.  Back at Gramercy, Gage shows up to check on Andrew.  He asks Andrew if he’s rigged the stove so that it’ll explode.  Andrew says of course, but make sure Jeff uses it first.  While walking away, Gage replies that he thought Andrew would want to get rid of him first.  Yeah right.  That’s Gage’s m.o.  At least that’s what he did last season with Sarah, Trace, Jett, and even Jenny, but that didn’t work.  I don’t trust Gage.  Andrew agrees with me because in his talking head he says Gage is always in Jeff’s ear and he’s (Gage) is kind of an ass.  Jeff and Jenny are in route somewhere and decide to stop in a hardware-like store to buy Zoila some gag gifts for her birthday.  Instead they buy ski masks that have openings for the eyes and mouth only, typical gear for thieves.  They buy them and decide to wear them home.  OMG!  That’s hilarious.  It’s even funnier when they stop people on the street, and Jenny asks them where the 7-11 is, where the bank is, but it’s not that impressive to the pedestrians.  That is until Deb takes over.  Deb asks a guy where’s the closest bank, and the guy says that there’s a liquor store right there they can rob.  Hahahaha!  I swear Jeff.  He always makes Jenny do the crazy things, but this was funny.

Back at West Knoll, Jeff starts wheedling Andrew about things he doesn’t follow up on.  Of course, Andrew makes excuses.  He feels the need to qualify his actions.  He doesn’t get that Jeff just wants him to admit the behavior.  Later, Jeff continues to harp on Andrew.  He threatens to write the word “dipshit” on his forehead if he forgets another thing.  Isn’t that a human resources thing?  Where’s Jenny to police Jeff?  Andrew asks Vanina if Jeff speaks to her the same way.  Vanina says no.  She never makes mistakes.  Witch.  Andrew is realizing he’s the punch line of the office.  Don’t people know that if you work for Jeff you have to entertain him, which means making him laugh by embarrassing yourself and letting everyone laugh at you.

That night is Zoila’s birthday dinner.  Jeff feels the need to one-up his last gift.  I don’t know how you can one-up plastic surgery, but he’s planning on it.  During the dinner, the waiter brings tequila.  Jeff, Jenny, Gage, Nancy (the new Jett), Vanina, and Andrew are there.  Everyone takes a shot and as soon as they do, Jeff covers their mouth and shakes their head, while Jenny blows the whistle.  Apparently, it’s something that he and his friends used to do in Tijuana.  I don’t know.  Zoila embarrasses Jeff by pretending to perform an act on her dessert.  Ew.  On the way back to the house, they see his gift to Zoila.  It’s a black Mercedes SUV!  Holy crap!  He really loves her.  It’s these sweet moments that you can see Jeff’s Grinch heart.  He loves Zoila.  I’m surprised that Gage isn’t planning on pushing her down the stairs or something.

During a meeting with Lisa, her husband tells Jeff that because of their insurance, they have to move back in to their house in one week.  One week?!  They have 5 weeks’ worth of work.  I don’t think that’s going to happen, but Jeff plans to pull other crew from other job sites and put them on this one.  Good luck with that.  Back at the office, Andrew says that he’s being subpoenaed for the fire.  What fire?  The fire that the schizophrenic who lives in the condo below his started.  Um what?  This doesn’t sound right.  Do you ever get that feeling that it’s b-s when people start telling you these far-fetched stories?  My mother did this often, so I recognize that feeling in others.  This story screams, “Bullsh*t!”  Anyway, Jeff starts in on him again, but this time Andrew starts belittling himself, which makes Jeff take up for Andrew.  Nice reverse psychology, Andrew.  To prove himself to Jeff, Andrew asks to take over the Calabasas site (Lisa’s house).  Andrew lets him, and of course, cut to Gage who’s staring directly at the two of them.  His facial expression clearly says, “No!” but he only says, “Don’t fuck it up.”  While he’s doing that, Jeff and Jenny check on his other clients.  At the job site, Andrew is making some inappropriate comments to the electrician whom he finds attractive.  No, no, no.  Here’s where I agree with Gage.

In the car ride while discussing Jenny’s invitations, the subject of Andrew’s home address perplexes Jeff, Jenny and Vanina.  He’s told them two different addresses, so Jeff calls Gage to check payroll, which has a third address.  Okay.  I have to say when I heard the cockamamie trust fund story where he has to have a job or else he won’t have his lifestyle paid for, I thought, “Bullsh*t!”  Wasn’t that a Three Stooges episode? Yeah right.  That’s a lie.  Then they find out that not only has he lied about his address, but he’s lied about his boyfriend’s job.  He’s told Jenny that his man works from home, Jeff that he’s in the military, and Vanina that he’s a producer in New York.  Mm hmm.  Darn that Gage.  He’s right.  Back at Calabasas, Andrew is doing a phenomenal job overseeing the project, so he decides to call Jeff to give him an update on the progress so far, but Jeff isn’t answering.  No one’s answering the office phone.  Hmm…what could be going on?  Yeah, everyone is comparing notes trying to figure out what all lies you have told.  When he makes it back, the tension is palpable.  Jeff being direct when he’s found out someone has lied to him, don’t these people know Jeff has trust issues.  You can’t break his trust or he’ll go mental on you.  Jeff comes out and call him on it.  What does Andrew do?  He says it’s none of Jeff’s business.  Um what?  That’s your boss and you’ve just told MANY lies.  He gets defensive when asked direct questions from Jeff and you can literally see him try to come up with another lie.  Finally he gets fed up and tells Jeff that he’s leaving.  Essentially, he’s quit.  No discussion, no coming clean.  Just up and left.  Not only left, but sped away with the squealing of tires and a toss of a permit out of the window.  Damn.  I hate it when Gage is right.

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Real Housewives of New Jersey Cast Blogs, Blogged by Ramonacoaster with Photos by Boston

Caroline Manzo

Wow! Caro wrote six sentences.  Thanks for the short blog! One of her sentences was I got nothing.  I hope that’s the same attitude you take to the reunion so that the camera won’t pan to your face of misery so often.

Teresa Giudice

Sometimes I like Melissa. If anything, you’re getting a good picture of what knowing Melissa is like: she can be fun and sweet and you think things are going to be good, and then she twists on you, lies, does something nasty, and you’re just like: why? Why couldn’t you just be all nice? Or at least all real?

I guess real is boring.

Here’s one thing I know: you can’t lie to your fans.

Oh yes you can and yes you have.

Why was Joe’s brother Pete Giudice at the Fashion Show? (I got this one a lot!) Pete wasn’t there randomly alone. He came with his wife, my sister-in-law, Sheila, her sister, and a bunch of other guys. It’s a big event for our town every year and it always sells out. And yes, there are always guys at the fashion show — go back and watch any other year — remember Greg Bennett begging to sit next to me at the first one? — but our hubbies usually don’t come. I didn’t know Pete was going to be there or believe me, I would have dragged Joe along too!

It’s okay for Pete to go to jail should a fight break out but Juicy already has too many strikes against him, right?

Why did I go to the new salon with Kim D? Because she asked me to go with her. And it was just for make-up, not hair. And it wasn’t just some random place. They were a major new sponsor of Kim’s fashion show as you could see from their name on the step-and-repeat, Chateau Allure Salon. Kim’s fashion show raises thousands of dollars every year for charity, and I support it. So do all the other ‘Wives.

That and production wanted you there to meet Baldy.

Am I friends with the people who owned the salon? No. It’s owned by Johnny Karagiorgis (@JohnnyTheGrk on Twitter) and his wife Penny Drossos (@PDKhair). I’ve met them at a few of my appearances, and they seem nice enough. I know they like me, I just don’t know them very well. I only heard after the fashion show that Penny and Melissa don’t get along, but like I said last week, I can’t keep up with everyone in our town that doesn’t like Melissa!

I guess your droppings crumbs to follow a Twitter trail.

How does Penny know Melissa? I don’t know, you’d have to ask her. From what I understand, it’s actually Penny’s family member, not Melissa’s, who owned Lookers (weird thing to lie about). Maybe their argument is from something back then.

What kind of club is Lookers? I have no idea. I’m seriously confused. Melissa says it was a “bikini bar” but that she only wore a tank top and sneakers. Then she said Lookers was a club for “older men with money. You’re in a bikini, you hand them a drink, they’re like ‘Here’s $100 bill.’ I’d be stupid not to work there!” (Yes, Melissa, very stupid… I had no idea stupidity is why I had no money in college… I thought it was my morals…) She worked there a day, a week, a year, her family owned it, they didn’t, I have NO IDEA. Google the place at your own risk.

You said so yourself no one cares if she was stripper long ago. Why should we google it?

Why didn’t I warn Melissa about Angelo after I met him at the salon? I had no idea he was going to the fashion show too! I thought when he came up to me at the salon, that was it, and I could tell Melissa later. I didn’t want to ruin a nice evening at the event by talking about it that night. When Angelo showed up and came up to the table, my heart was racing. I don’t know anything about Melissa’s true past, so I had no idea if he was a threat or not, but I was prepared to defend Melissa if he said anything. But all he did was say hi and left. Left the table and then left the building (and I chased him down)! I never met the guy before that day. I didn’t even know his name, I walked around calling him “the bald guy” all night. And I was never near him, never next to him, nothing (or you would have seen it!). The first one to use his name was Melissa in the bathroom. She immediately started calling him “Angelo” — which looking back now is weird since she claimed she didn’t recognize him.

I like Baldy better.

Why did Angelo say Kim and Teresa wanted to “blow the whistle” on Melissa? If you watch from the beginning of his conversation, you see that Angelo wasn’t talking about me and Kim first-hand because he didn’t know us. He was retelling a second hand conversation. He was talking about Johnny, the owner of the salon, telling him that “Kim and Teresa want to blow the whistle” on Melissa. That’s Angelo retelling Johnny’s opinion. Maybe he heard wrong, maybe Johnny did say that, I have no idea because I don’t really know Johnny either. Maybe Johnny thinks I would like to see Melissa taken down, but he’s wrong, I didn’t and don’t, and I never said anything like that to anyone.

He was paid to say that by Bravo production.

Who was the secret person texting Jacqueline? Good question. I’d like to know too. Especially since none of our “mutual friends” were at the salon that day and the party. And Jacqueline said she was going to send the texts to Melissa that night. You know those two would have put them on Twitter immediately. Why didn’t they? Please, tell us, because no one is buying the “you’re a loyal friend” excuse.

Jacqueline would have put it on Twitter immediately because she’s such a sh*tstirrer.

Why am I still friends with Kim D? First, maybe it’s because I still feel bad for how my brother treated Kim that night. You didn’t see the half of it. It was s-c-a-r-y and my brother knows it.

I’m not buying that.

Second, it’s not just me still friends with her, it’s Caroline and Jacqueline too. Why aren’t they freaking out too and defending their new best friend Melissa? Maybe because like me, they don’t really think Kim D. did anything that terrible to Melissa.

There’s something fishy there and it’s not Kathy.

I’m Kathy’s blood family after all. And Kathy was sooo hurt that I mentioned one of her husband’s insults to me, which she admitted he did, in an interview.

She had to pretend to be mad at your for something.

Did anyone else notice how in the bathroom she immediately turned on me when I told her not to call my brother (which by the way, if my whole evil plan was to out her to my brother so they’d get divorced, I would have welcomed him coming down!) and reminded me I had “nieces and nephews at home.” She always does that, she always uses her kids to hold me hostage.

Not exactly a master manipulator.

I didn’t know until I watched the episode that Melissa was egging my brother on in the car. She didn’t want him to drive away. She had no proof of anything, she wasn’t even really “ambushed,” but she had the perfect opportunity to get my brother to hate me. So she took it and ran with it. She told him to roll down the window and she knew exactly what to tell him that would push my buttons: “Tell your sister ‘Shame on you!'” She kept repeating it, even under her breath as we were talking, “Say shame on you! Say shame!” 

So whose turn is it to have Thanksgiving dinner?

So, last question: What’s the big deal with Melissa dancing or not dancing anyway? Like I said last week, and I said on Twitter right after the fashion show “leaks” about the “set-up” — it is no big deal. You know, I’ve been around the Housewives franchise for a while now, and I’ve seen this before. And no one ever cares. Doesn’t every city have an ex-stripper? NeNe admitted she was a stripper. No one cared. Bethenny’s topless B-movie came out. No one cared. And they are the two biggest Housewives ever. Even if Melissa was a stripper, I KNEW no-one would care. If I wanted to “embarrass” Melissa, it wouldn’t be for something no-one cared about!

No one cares. People care more about your bankruptcy and if Juicy is going to jail than stripper-gate. You still hold the prize for most embarrassing housewife.

Finally, yes, I did see Melissa’s US Weekly interview. Is that 3 weeks in a row now they’ve put me on the cover?

Twist the knife of jealousy a little more.

What Melissa and the other women accused me of all season was basically running the magazines and having complete control over everything. We all know that’s not true. Even though Caroline mocked me for the headlines, she knows, we all know, they write something to sell.

They needed something to skewer you with.  I love that it’s the best the crack team could come up with. So lame.

No, I haven’t really seen or spoken to the other Housewives and my brother in almost a year. And while that made me really sad, on a lot of levels I really flourished being away from their negativity. My kids are doing amazing.

Melissa Gorga

I know by now you all know me, you know my family, and you know my values. I live my life by three words: trust, loyalty, and respect. I have forgiven and forgotten many things, but I will not let anyone, whether it is an aunt, cousin, sister, mother — I don’t care who it is — ruin my family.

By competing with Teresa, you ruined a part of your family all on your own. Congratulations!

At this point I think I only have one word to describe what has happened and what’s to come: D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L.

You’re delusional if you think we buy this victim bullcrap.

Jacqueline Laurita

Jacqueline makes up in length for Caro’s blog.  She lists 16 reasons why she believes the whole hoopla was a set-up. Apparently she’s very passionate about this crap.  Taking a page from her husband’s book, the question is “What is her end-game?”

Why I believe this was a set-up and will stick to that:

1. I knew Kim D. didn’t like Melissa and neither did Teresa. Teresa would fake nice only for the viewers, to make them think she was trying to get along with her family. She wasn’t.

You don’t have to like your sister-in-law but you have to try at least publically to get along.

2. Teresa was buddies with Kim while she was pretending to be so happy and close with Melissa. Teresa even joined Kim inside the restaurant AFTER the fashion show, after all the drama happened and even after Kim fought intensely with her brother, and they are STILL friends. Interesting isn’t it?

If Kim D was in on the set-up then Teresa should have a problem with her.

3. There was no remorse, just smile after smile inside the restaurant after the drama without a care in the world. I think she was pleased with what came out. Although, I think she was mad at me for calling her out.

You got a text from someone you don’t want to identify which made you call her out. Is that really proof?

4. Kim D. will protect her friends publicly, but will usually own up to her own mischievous ways and take accountability for her actions, right or wrong. I respect her for that. Even though she doesn’t always play nice when angered.

So now you don’t have a problem with Kim D after she set-up your friend Melissa. Is she protecting you?

5. Teresa doesn’t own up to anything EVER and will try to get others to speak up on her behalf and let them take the downfall alone while she plays innocent. This is why I did not choose to get involved in her schemes against her family. I had my own hardships that I was dealing with, but Teresa didn’t care about that. She only put MORE pressure on me to do her dirty work, then she would talk badly about me and I’d have to hear about what kind of a friend I was for not doing it. She just didn’t get it when I would try to explain to her my reasons why I didn’t want to get involved. I honestly just wanted her to fake it until she made it with her family.

If this is true and it could well be, who cares if she didn’t get it.  It seems there’s a lot of energy being spent on saying no to Teresa.

6. Teresa was doing things all season to sabotage her family in many ways, including business opportunities. The atmosphere around her became so dark and negative to be around. Her phone calls to me were all about her feelings toward her family. My head was spinning. I had my own issues I was dealing with that she never gave a sh– about.

Are you more pissed off that she didn’t care about what you were going through?  Just tell her no and to stick it where the sun don’t shine!

7. Teresa would have NEVER agreed to go to someone else for make-up and hair like that unless she had an ulterior motive. (Which she did.) TERESA KNEW KIM D. WAS MAKING MELISSA THE TARGET THAT DAY! Even if she never knew all of the details of how it would go down, Teresa knew Melissa was the target and she was going to allow Kim to do whatever she wanted to hurt Melissa, while Teresa played innocent and clueless (which isn’t hard for her). I was told the truth by someone involved, who shall remain nameless, that won’t publicly “out” her friend.

The problem with this is there’s no way to prove or disprove Teresa’s involvement if you have a “secret” source that won’t reveal themselves.

8. Conveniently, the bald guy worked at that salon for one day only.

Bravo production paid him for the day.

9. It seemed as though she tried to argue Melissa’s point about the rumors while seemingly trying to put it out there even more by keeping the conversation going. She kept trying to discredit Melissa instead of trying to help her.

She could have also been trying to get Melissa to refute what he said and call him out while he was there gossiping.  It was very high school.

10. Why did Teresa cowardly leave the room when Kim D. and the bald guy were talking about Melissa? Why didn’t she shut them down immediately and get pissed off at Kim who was trying to humiliate her sister-in-law? She says the right words for them to stop talking about her family, but then her actions don’t match up AT ALL, as she allows them to continue talking.

It’s hard to staple someone’s mouth closed.  They may not like it.

11. Why didn’t Teresa call Melissa up right then and there to warn her about what that man said about her on camera? There was NO call, NO message, NO text, NO attempt of anything!!!

Too bad she didn’t have a crystal ball.  She’s not the brightest bulb in the box.

12. Why, the second she saw the bald guy at the fashion show, didn’t she chase him out of there? Why? Would you wait for their interaction to take place or would you shut it down before it began and ask him to leave? Didn’t he apologize once for offending Teresa for saying things in the first place? He did it because he was asked to do it. The bald guy said, (and I quote) “TERESA KNEW ABOUT THIS TOO.” And, “KIM AND TERESA WANT ME TO BLOW THE COVER ON MELISSA, because she plays the ‘holier than thou.’ THEY HAD ME DO THIS THING.” GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! DON’T try to put that on me, Teresa, because you look like a FOOL!

Wow, using all caps to make your point.  I still don’t see your endgame.

13. My mutual friends with Teresa told me that Teresa knew TWO WEEKS PRIOR that this set up against Melissa was going to happen. WHAT? NO warning for Melissa??? I can’t expose them, because they are still friendly with Teresa.

Once again, you can’t expose mutual friends so there’s no point in bringing them up.

14. Why was Teresa’s brother-in-law there when he never attended one of those fashion shows before? It seems to me as if she was expecting trouble?

Please state what you are alleging. I’m too bored to read between the question marks.

15. Why did Teresa’s brother-in-law hug Teresa after the drama and congratulate her after the confrontation telling her he was proud of her? Wouldn’t he be trying to fight the bald guy and be upset with Kim D. who set up her family instead of continuing to party with her?

I thought Baldy left.

16. ONCE AGAIN let’s not forget the incriminating evidence of this bald guy forgetting his mic was still on as he outed Teresa and Kim for knowing about it and asking him to do this thing to call out Melissa.

I wonder how much he was getting paid from Bravo production.

Haters, you can keep on hating, but I KNOW you KNOW Teresa is just as guilty as the others, so spare me your irrational explanations on why you think she is innocent, puhlease! I’m not buying it! I’m very smart!

Ha! Just from reading your blogs I can tell you are Mensa material.  I think what you need to work on is your emotional IQ.

BOTTOM LINE — The truth is Teresa never forgave her family for coming on the show. She STILL holds a grudge against ALL of them about it. She has held this grudge for the last two seasons. She HATED that fans were starting to like Melissa and that Melissa was treating her so nicely on camera. She thought Melissa was being fake (only because Anything that Teresa is guilty of, she tries to project that onto someone else. She will never take accountability for her wrong doings. To me, THAT’S A COWARD! Teresa is the most jealous, competitive person I have ever met and I am done, done, DONE!

I hope you’re done. Especially with the War and Peace length blogs.  It’s too bad you spent this much energy trying to prove Teresa is fake and a liar.  I mean we knew that with all the legal problems made public and trying to sweep it all under the rug in interviews.  Whether Melissa is a stripper or not, no one cares.  Whether Teresa is responsible for outing that, Bravo production was complicit. You are not getting anything but frustration out of it and your energies should go towards your son.  Hope your venting relieves your obvious stress.

Kathy Wakile

As I watched the scenes of the final episode I realized that while I was sitting at the table enjoying my salad, there seemed to be a whole other show going on. Apparently a lot of things were happening. I often wonder to myself, why is it that I do not pick up on these things as they are happening?

Poor Kathy is not part of the cool kids club.

Or is it that I just choose to block out ugly situations and try to believe that there is a logical explanation for everything? Unfortunately watching this it is obvious that the events of that evening were definitely orchestrated, and not a coincidence. 

We see that too.

So as I sit to write this blog, I think it would be best to remove my emotions from the mix and just present you all with the facts we’ve all seen involving the events of that evening.

Oh great, another analysis. At least it’s numbered 1 to 3 and not 1 to 16.

The Set-Up: To paint a negative picture of Melissa at a public event by exposing her alleged past employment as a stripper.

I thought it was to set Teresa up as the bad guy. It’s been the theme of  the season so why stop now.

The Players: Teresa; Kim D; The Bald Guy aka Angelo, former strip club manager conveniently  turned PR agent for a day; Melissa; JacquelineCaroline; Lauren; and me.

I’m not sure if you can include yourself since you didn’t know what was going on.

The Motive: To destroy Melissa’s reputation, embarrass her, and ultimately try to destroy a happy family of five.

I understand you need to keep in line with your employer so you need to go along with the Bravo production script.

The Clues: Body Language, Facial Expressions, Accusations

The Clues: Bald guy mic’d and hired for the day, assuming the audience is stupid, ratings for Bravo

The Evidence:

1. There isn’t any evidence to support the statements made by the creepy “bald guy,” so everyone will just have to take his word for the truth.

There’s no evidence for anything.

2. The texts Jacqueline was receiving all evening from a mutual friend of both she and Teresa. The texts were being sent to inform Jacqueline there was going to be some serious drama that evening. Drama that Teresa, Kim D, and “The Bald Guy” had carefully planned out at the expense of one of the lady’s reputation. 

What reputation? She’s not managing people’s money, no one’s life is in her hands, she’s not in public office. Drop the mutual friend stuff if you can’t say the whole truth.

3. The Candid Taped Confession: Ah, finally some real visual evidence. The conversation the creepy “Bald Guy” was having with some woman in the distance while forgetting he was still wearing a mic. (This is reality TV, if you think because the camera is not directly in your vision you’re not being filmed, you’re wrong. Let’s not forget, in reality TV the walls have ears! Or in other words when you are mic’d or near a mic, you’re being recorded and someone is always listening.)

It’s not “reality” if production is fabricating a situation.

The Plot: The events get weirder by the minute as we reach crescendo and the key players start to play the blame game, while handing out accusations and lies.

It’s not me, it’s you game.

The Finale: Cast members are angry, hurt, disillusioned, tired, and wondering how on earth we will be able to make some sense of this and get up at 5:00am to be ready to film a reunion with some civility. It is obvious from facial expression and body language that Jacqueline is in a complete state of shock and is having a meltdown.

Jacqueline pointed the finger at Teresa. She had to expect a return shot. The Posche fashion show would have been a great time for Jacqueline to pretend to be asleep.

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Dancing with the Stars, the All-Stars by COC Farm

Hello LynnFam!  Okay, offered myself up to NMD for DWTS reviews about 10 minutes ago, tried to pretend I didn’t just do that, freed the animals, grabbed a shower and here I sit.  I will keep these short and sweet.  Since I’m a t-shirt and jeans girl, I won’t tread on wardrobe either.

First, the cast:

Apolo Anton Ohn with Katrina Smirnoff, who previously won his season

Bristol Palin with Mark Ballas, boy, Mark drew the short stick!

Drew Lachey with Anna Trebunskaya, won his season

Emmitt Smith with Cheryl Burke, won his season

Gilles Marini with Peta Nurgatroyd, 2nd place his season and Peta is a lucky girl!

Helio Castroneves with Chelsie Hightower, won his season

Joey Fatone with Kym Johnson…I think he was 2nd his season

Kelly Monaco with Valentin Chmerkovskiy, won her season which was the first DWTS

Kirstie Alley with Maksim Chmerkovskiy, came in third her season…I think.

Melissa Rycroft with Tony Dovolani, 3rd her season

Pamela Anderson with Tristan MacManus, went home early her season

Sabrina Bryan with Louis Van Amstel, went home early her season but should have won

Shawn Johnson with Derek Hough, won her season

There you have it.  The cast.  This season is interesting to me since almost all of them are very good, so it will be splitting hairs as to who dances better on a given night.  That said, the judges ARE splitting hairs!  They have created a new judging system by awarding half points.  Tom Bergeron had one of the funniest comments of the night saying the people who keep them in paddles are excited by the new development with the half point system.

The judges are themselves as usual, Bruno the squealer, Carrie Ann the perky & Len the grouch, although Len is the true critic.

No one scores higher than a 24.5.  Wow different judging with this group.  In the past they would have doled out 7 or 8 perfect scores, but with so much dancing talent in one place, they are starting conservatively which they have to do…otherwise, it would just be a popularity contest.

After the first night, Pam Anderson was at the bottom of the board with a 17.5 with Bristol Palin 2 points better. Emmitt Smith was at the top of the board, which was a head scratcher to me.  I love Emmitt, but I did not think him a better dancer than many of the others.  But he is totally likable and a fan fav, so who knows!  Maybe I was missing something in his dance.

Here’s the shocker:  Pam was the first to go.  Okay, I lied.  No shocker there.  Bristol was in the bottom with her, which also makes sense.  She should be the next to go but again, those pesky fan votes!  Surprisingly, Drew Lachey was in the bottom three.  His talking heads the first night were a bit snippy.  If you didn’t know he was joking around, you might walk away thinking him unhappy to be there or smug.  I think it was his shtick, but we’ll see if it changes now that he got a scare.  He had points that put him in the middle of the pack, so clearly the fans were not there for him.

My thoughts, an athlete will take it, but I’d like to see Sabrina or Kelly win.  Sabrina was robbed her season and Kelly isn’t a dancer but surprised me with how well she did.  Check with me next week and I will probably change my mind.

Overall, it will be a great season.  Everyone is happy to be there, joking around with one another.  It’s like a family gathering where everyone likes one another and just seems happy to be part of it.

Okay, I said I’d say nothing about fashion, but LOVED Brooke Burkes dress last night.

Thanks for the opportunity to blog to my fellow LynnFam.  As always, Lynn is missed and would have something to say about DWTS.  She would have loved the All-Stars.

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How Does Our Poll Compare to WWHL?

Andy’s poll had 73 percent for Ramona.  Ours?

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635 Responses to More on Paul Nassif and Adrienne Maloof / Ratings / Flipping Out / Real Housewives of New Jersey Cast Blogs

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. We’re expecting rain. I hope not too much. Have a good day.

  2. WindyCityWondering says:

    Watching Flipping Out has gotten so difficult as Jeff isn’t funny, just mean. I miss seeing the finished projects – it seems it is taking forever to get to that point. Andrew can’t handle the bullying and it was sad to watch it continue nonstop.

    • Powell says:

      On WWHL didn’t Jeff say he didn’t like himself this season? Hopefully this means a positive change has been made.

      • VV says:

        Yes, he did say that. Not sure about the change.
        I too miss seeing more of the projects and transformation. They are showing too much of Jeff driving around and the maps of the locations.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      I am really tired of watching Jeff firing employees season after season. They were replaying Season 1 the other day, and he was doing the same even then. I think Andrew was just brought in by production for drama purposes. I’m so weary of Bravo now.

    • Stars99 says:

      ITA… I think he drank too much of his own Kool aid. While it’s happening,it seems like he thinks he’s cute and funny… but it’s not.

  3. The Tin Man says:

    It’s good to know that Paul never chocked the kids or kicked the dog, and this revelation makes it perfectly clear what kind of person Adrienne is. She’s right up there with Taylor now, isn’t she? Wow, I wonder who she’ll try to blame this on. Poor Adrienne, always the victim.

    • scorpiosue1102 says:

      What makes me angry is that Adrienne is hurting her kids. She can be angry with Paul as much as she wants but she should not drag her kids into this drama.

      • The Tin Man says:

        Some day her children will know what she did, how she cared more about hurting Paul than them, and they will resent her for it. She will reap what she has sown.

    • Rebecca says:

      She backed the hell down when Lisa threatened to sue her for slander. Paul should do the same.

      • The Tin Man says:

        I wish he would, but I think he cares about the kids too much to try and ruin their mother, unlike her. She’s a piece of work, and I bet he regrets ever taking her side or standing up for her. Why would anyone want to associate with her now? You can’t believe a word that comes from her. What a vindictive bitch.

    • PJ says:

      I never thought he did and I got my impression of Adrienne last season when she flipped out over where Pandora’s bachelor party was held.

      • I Need A Life! says:

        Every time a mother makes false accusations against the father, it’s like one giant step back for all women who really NEED to protect their children. Adrienne didn’t seem like such a backwards woman. There’s going to be a huge backlash if it’s true. What honest woman would want to be in her shoes…literally.

        • PJ says:

          True, and this kind of false reporting is the reason some real abuse issues are overlooked.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            Addy is not an honest women so I am not sure that she cares what others think. She probably lies to herself so I do not think she will regret lying about Paul. Maybe one of the reasons they are splitting up. JMHO.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      She’s really a piece of work, huh? I was giving her the benefit of the doubt because sometimes a spouse can be one way in public and another in private, and i didn’t think she would stoop so low to make such harsh public accusations. What a low life she is.

    • Powell says:

      Ramonacoaster bless you my friend for constantly taking the hit w/the NJ ladies blogs. I again tried to read Jacs but gave up at #3. The way she writes literally give me a headache so I stopped.

    • Powell says:

      Yeah and we know what kind of person Bernie is. He must have a job for life w/Adrienne. I suspected but know believe that Adrienne put Bernie up to all those mag article plants about Lisa.

    • Powell says:

      Didn’t we read that a DEA Agent make a statement that he saw Paul either choke the kids or kick the dog? I can’t remember which it was.

    • Sus says:

      I agree Tin Man. I noticed that Paul is asking for “joint” custody – the way it should be unless the parent is Atilla the Hun. I’d like to know the effects on the those kids having to interview with CPS when there wasn’t cause. What are the kids thinking now? It can’t be good.

      Here’s what I don’t get about custody fights and not wanting to share the kids. If you share the kids, that means you get time to yourself. Isn’t that one of the benefits of divorce? In this house, we joke that we stay together because neither of us would take the kids.

  4. thedesigndiva2 says:

    HAPPY HUMP DAY….
    beautiful morning in fl.. dry air and a cool breeze…
    WCW..I agree with you about Jeff…. He has a bit of a sadistic streak to him…
    Cant wait for TOP CHEF…. Hoping Chris takes it all.Mr ford and I called him the first episode..Just something about him we like…

    Update about Mr ford…waiting for blood work to come back.went to cardio dr yesterday..Echo cardiogram being done next friday..they will decide then whether a heart cath is next.. I told the dr that he seems to be VERY TIRED and all he does is sleep… the dr says this is typical in heart patients and I also asked about depression… he said that also is typical.. Mr ford has lost weight ..down to 188 #…. hmm…dr says thats a good thing..I might have to disagree with him about that..he looks SICKLY……

    Have a great wed all
    later
    hugs and peace
    Diva

  5. Birdwoman says:

    I think Jacq’s endgame is to try to damage Teresa’s brand. Make more people hate her so she won’t be able to sell her products.

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      I don’t think Teresa needs any help with anything..she’s doing quite well on her own. People are giving jacqueline and every one else on this show too much credit.

      • ladyballs says:

        i concur.

        • Obsessed with RH says:

          I agree. Teresa’s behavior damages her own brand (I’m not talking about the “set up”, I’m talking about flipping tables, assaulting people, chasing people, screaming at people, using the “C*NT” word like it’s going out of style and the rest of her ape-like behavior). I’m amazed people have given her as much attention as she has received. This whole cast needs to be scrapped and Teresa needs to fade away and focus on her cheating husband and hopefully get a divorce from that neanderthal.

          • PJ says:

            Teresa wouldn’t have a brand if she hadn’t done those things. That’s what got her recognition beyond the zany friend of those who were supposed to be the real stars. The attention is the real reason no one still likes her in the cast. They wanted the attention so they could get the marketing deals. If this cast succeeds in getting rid of Teresa like they got rid of Danielle, next season there will be issues between other cast members, it’s what these people do.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              PJ, sadly you are right. The “bad” or “negative” behavior is what put Teresa Guidice on the map. I don’t hate the woman, but when one works hard to raise children to have self control, to NOT behave that way; or when works for many years in education working with children, reinforcing good manners and teaching them to treat others with kindness…and THAT’S NOT what gets rewarded in society today???…it can be a little bit disheartening. How can our youth keep working toward a polite and decent society when the opposite is constantly being rewarded and glorified.

              Looks like I went off on a little tangent, didn’t I? 🙂

      • RealHousewifeVA says:

        Let’s put the fashion show aside since everyone disagrees who was responsible for it, but the rest of the season, where did Teresa cause anything? She went to Jac’s house all happy and good mood, and got attacked. She went to Jamie’s wedding all happy and trying to be friendly, and got the cold shoulder. She went to Napa and tried to make nice, and still the mean girls needed to cause drama. She went to Jac’s house early in the season and sat on the front stoop with Caroline to apologize, and still she got attacked. She was being very friendly at the tug-of-war, so they went after her kid instead. She can’t win, from my viewpoint.

        • PJ says:

          agree with you on all points. They are looking for reasons not to like Teresa.

        • Obsessed with RH says:

          I can’t simply write off Teresa as being the “victim.” In the examples you listed, AT THOSE MOMENTS, she hadn’t started the drama, she was dealing with the FALLOUT of the drama she had previously caused. She went to Jacqueline’s house and was confronted by Jac about the fact that she was not being honest to her supposed “best friend.” She went to the wedding in Napa after having insulted Caroline via the cook book. She “Apologized” but never admitted that it wasn’t a joke and in my opinion her apologies were never sincere. Finally, the tug of war, they didn’t ‘go after’ Gia. Gia was out of control and out of line and her mother wasn’t doing anything to remedy the situation and since Jac and Caro were supposedly T’s “Best friends” and her REAL family then, according to Teresa it shouldn’t have been a big deal that they were trying to talk to/ educate Gia with her “sore loser” mentality. Again, whether you agree with that or not, different story but Teresa is NOT a victim. She behaves one way and then expects everyone to go along with it and when she is finally confronted on it she deflects it and makes it seem like she is being ganged up on. I’m so tired of this mentality. She made her bed and now she needs to lie in it.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            And yet ANOTHER adult goes after a child. smdh

            • Obsessed with RH says:

              I wasn’t going “after” Gia. I was merely stating that at that time, her behavior was out of line and out of control and she was exhibiting “sore loser” mentality. I do not condone anyone “going after” a child nor was I.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                “Gia was out of control and out of line and her mother wasn’t doing anything to remedy the situation” – – -Your words are what I based my comment on. If you think that’s not going after/infairly criticizing a child then that’s your right. But if you see a child who as you say is out of control and out of line,…I would advise you NOT to try to educate said child with sarcasm and by not going to get their mommy when they are clearly asking for their mom as Jac and Caroline did on camera. It’s inappropriate for two adult women to project their anger onto a little girl. It’s also inappropriate to keep perpetuating this idea that this little girl was “out of line and Out of control” – – – she is a little girl. She was behaving in a developmentally appropriate manner considering the situation and the stress and the people involved.

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  infairly??? should have typed “unfairly. “

                • As I said later on down the thread, I was not defending Jac or Caro’s behavior. I was trying to state a point about how close Teresa said J&C were to her, that they were like her family, closer than family, sisters even. By stating a child’s behavior was out of line or out of control I am not unfairly criticizing the child. Children are out of line and out of control all the time. I have said to my sister that my niece or nephew was totally out of control on various occaisions. She has said yes you’re totally right he is being a wacko. I’m not saying Gia wasn’t allowed to be that way, I was simply stating HOW she was behaving AT that time and thus indicating that since J and C were SO CLOSE to Teresa and like family that the INTENTION of speaking to Gia and trying to explain what was going on wasn’t anything malicious. I’m not sure where you seem to get that Jac and Caro were projecting their anger on Gia, sorry that I don’t see. Teresa wasn’t around at that moment and Jac and Caro were. Again I’ll say that they didn’t properly handle the situation, they SHOULD have gone to get Teresa, however my point was that being that they were “SO CLOSE” it wasn’t completely foreign to have an “aunt/uncle” figure try to calm down/talk to the child. Finally, I’ll say it again, it ultimately was NOT handled properly by Jac or Caro but that wasn’t the point of my comment.

                  • I could see how the misinterpretation would come through on my original post but hopefully I’ve been able to clarify that portion of it. It makes sense to me in my head and then when I transfer to the computer I articulate it perfectly.

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    okie dokie, Obsessed. I think I understand your point better. I didn’t mean to make you feel “picked on”, but I feel strongly that children (minor children) are off limits. I go back and forth and waffle on some of the Hw’s and their behaviors, but they (minor kids)are my achille’s heel. You said a lot of other great things in your post, but your words re: Gia and what those women did to her, well, it made my radar go off a lil bit. Ok, it’s over, I hope. Let’s carry on!!! 🙂

                    • Understood completely Lainey. I really appreciate your comments and I agree with you completely as far as picking on kids is concerned. LOL I just reread my last post….now it should make you understand that what I think doesn’t perfectly come across on the computer ” It makes sense to me in my head and then when I transfer to the computer I articulate it perfectly.” I meant I do NOT articulate it perfectly….ahh!!…maybe I should go do some work!!!!

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      It happens to all of us, Obsessed. Work?? what’s that? haha!!

          • Sam says:

            I have no quarrel with your other points, but regarding “it shouldn’t have been a big deal that they were trying to talk to/educate Gia with her ‘sore loser’ mentality,” if anyone had tried to “educate” my kids when they were little, I would have been furious at them.

            Approach ME, the mom, tell me what happened, and let me deal with it.

            (Of course, my kids never behaved like Gia — but still, to me, disciplining someone else’s kid is stepping over the line, unless you have the mom’s prior permission to do so.)

            • Obsessed with RH says:

              I’m sorry I should have clarified. I agree that what should have happened was that Jac and Caroline should have approached Teresa prior to speaking with Gia. However, what I was attempting to articulate was that according to Teresa, Jac and Caroline were SO close to her, like sisters, even closer than her family, and so, if that were the case, she wouldn’t have had an issue with them speaking to her daughter like an aunt/uncle would do. Granted, what transpired was a little different than that but what I was speaking to was the concept of how close the three of them were. Sorry sometimes I think faster than I type!

              • klmh says:

                Actually, I think C and J did what they knew Teresa wouldn’t do, reason with her, and that’s why they did it. Im not agreeing with their actions, simply stating that Teresa isn’t a disciplinarian as anyone can see, but it wasn’t their place to talk with her about her miserable behavior. She hasn’t learned how to be a good loser yet.

                • Lady Chatterley says:

                  Hard to know where to jump in here (conversation is getting reduced to itty bitty columns).

                  I just want to agree that Gia’s behavior was out of line and had to be addressed. Should have been addressed by Teresa, but it wasn’t (she was distracted, being filmed). Jackie and Caroline addressed it – which I think is okay, my friends and I have corrected each other’s children. Did they go too far? I think Jackie should have stopped when Gia got upset. I didn’t see Caroline as being inappropriate.

            • MM in OC says:

              In the context of the show, I think Jax and Carowhine were definitely trying to take advantage of the situation and showcase Tre as an insufficient mother. Why would they even be down in the basement – following the cameras for airtime. At this point they both hated Tre (i don’t care how much Jax tried to claim otherwise – the whole season she was anti-Tre).

          • RealHousewifeVA says:

            Why was it any of Caroline’s or Jac’s place to educate Gia, family/friends or not. My family better not try to ‘educate’ my children when I am right there and can be called upon to take care of the situation.

            And how do we know she didn’t think the comments in her book were a joke? Teresa’s jokes are always not very funny. Is she supposed to apologize the way Caroline sees fit? That’s so ridiculous of Caroline to expect. Teresa apologized for what she wrote, said she didn’t mean it in a bad way and that they were just jokes. But it’s not sincere enough? It looked sincere to me, she seemed nervous sitting with Caroline.

            • I’m not saying it was their PLACE to educate Gia, I’m saying that I could understand the intention behind it given their relationship. As far as “the cookbook” who knows she could very well have thought they were funny but the moment she knew Caroline thought they weren’t funny she is supposed to apologize with sincerity. I think the reason Caroline didn’t see any sincerity was that, and I could be mistaken, Teresa said “sorry but I thought it was funny and it was meant as a joke”, which does sound as though she’s justifying her behavior versus, “i’m so sorry, I never meant to hurt your feelings, it was meant to be a joke but obviously it wasn’t taken that way and I’m sincerely sorry” or something to that effect. At the end of the day it’s all ridiculous and nonsense but I ultimately think Teresa is not a victim and everything finally caught up with her.

              • RealHousewifeVA says:

                At the point that Caroline and Jac were ‘educating’ Gia, Caroline didn’t like Teresa. She was taking out her hatred of Teresa onto her child. So, basically Teresa should have said sorry and that she meant it as a joke (which she said), but the WAY she said it wasn’t good enough for Queen Caroline. Gotcha.

                I don’t really think anything caught up to Teresa…she’s the breakout star of the show, she’s the one getting the endorsements and magazine covers (even when they put Melissa on a cover, Teresa’s pic is on it too). That’s what these women all wanted and Teresa got it. I think THAT’s all that happened behind the scenes and the bitterness showed on each one of them this season. The hatred they have for her is not natural and doesn’t add up to what they are angry about at all. I would understand them being annoyed with her, but the venom they have for her about these silly stuff? Not normal. “Oh you do magazine covers ABOUT YOURSELF!” bad Teresa. But when Melissa did a mag cover totally bashing Teresa, Jacqueline defended it on twitter.

                • I’m not saying that Teresa isn’t successful, what I mean is that her issues with her friends have caught up with her….jeez i can’t articulate anything today. I don’t specifically know if what we saw were the only things that dissolved the friendship but I will say this, Teresa is the first to spew vitriol when a friendship is on the rocks. I believe that the issue with the magazines wasn’t that Teresa was doing magazine covers about herself, it was that she was talking badly about her costars IN the magazines…..sometimes I feel like I fell down the rabbit hole with all of this but I think that’s what they were upset about. I believe the cover Melissa did was in response to various covers done by Teresa. Again, not condoning, just trying to figure out all of this mess.

                  • RealHousewifeVA says:

                    Did you read the magazines? She never said one bad thing about Caroline or Jacqueline, except I think in one she said she wished they supported her more in her anger against Melissa for contacting Danielle (something to that effect) That’s why she didn’t understand their anger. The quotes that the one magazine put were quotes from the show and the mag even said they were quotes taken from the show. That’s what Teresa kept trying to explain to them. All the other articles about Teresa are always bad about her! lol. I was surprised she was working with that mag because, to me, it seemed like In Touch hated Teresa… The only time she said something negative was when she said about Richie always hounding her about her spending and how it annoys her. They even talked about it during the big Napa fight.

                    They are mad because she is getting paid to be on Magazines. They are mad because she did the family recipe cookbook that Jac herself admitted that she and Caroline wanted to do. They are mad because she would get asked to do one-on-one interviews while the others had to be in groups. This happens on all the franchises… We saw it with Bethenny, Nene, Teresa..the rest of the ladies get pissed when one becomes the “breakout” and find a million other reasons to hate them.

                    Teresa is no saint, but I don’t buy what they are selling about her being this evil devil. Even Jac admitted that in 10 years of friendship she never fought with Teresa and Dina tweeted that she NEVER saw Teresa being malicious to her friends in 15 years of friendship. Suddenly Teresa is Satan?

                  • Powell says:

                    You’re ok Obsessed. 🙂

            • Mary E says:

              Gia was emotional, yes. Competitive, ok. But she was reacting to a child’s perception of cheating by family members she looks up to. I think a normal reaction. Do you remember as a child when you first saw someone you looked up to cheat? We know they do cheat…remember the muddy road race? That was one I really started to dislike Madonna Manzo.

            • MM in OC says:

              I would have no problem putting a child in their place – particularly my friends kids. If they aren’t watching them – I’m going to. E.g., friends kids was tormenting the family pet – I need to step in. This wasn’t that situation – this is a reality show where the players are angling for position and a green with envy.

              Agree on the book issue – No real issue there -but Caro had to have something to be angry at – major misfire on her part because she came off looking petty and no older than Gia.

              • ladyballs says:

                i’m 50. when i grew up, all the adults in the neighborhood could reprimand any child. jaq and caroline talking to gia didn’t even register with me.

                • mrs. peabody says:

                  I wouldn’t have thought anything about it either if they had truly been friends with Tre but at that point they hated her! They both went overboard with Gia and imo took it to a different level and bullied the kid because of their hate of her mother. Big NoNo.

          • ladyballs says:

            E X A C T L Y
            perfect.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              We live in a different time. I think that Caroline and Jac used Gia to transfer their anger towards Teresa. At the time Caroline was done with Teresa. To me that would mean staying far away from all things Teresa. Caroline enjoys going after people in a territorial manner. The fact that this was a young child speaks volumes about Caroline’s general lack of humane control. I would guess that her disdain for females spills over, to little girls. Caroline is a hateful person. Children pick up on this. Gia is not dumb. She is on the internet and knows what Caroline has been saying about her mother. Not all adults should have free access to small children. JMHO.

          • PJ says:

            I don’t know any children that don’t melt down once in awhile. Even the best ones. I don’t like it when people go after other people’s children. We do not know what stress that child was under that day, these adults she was surrounded with are not nice people. I happen to like Tre’s kids. Plus just who are Caro and Jac to talk when it comes to children?

          • mrs. peabody says:

            They weren’t her “best friends” at that time they already hated her and had been bad mouthing her all season.

    • VV says:

      BINGO!!! …… I also like to add EPIC FAIL!!

      • lori says:

        I agree! And on top of that no matter what people may think of Teresa they aren’t going to start suddenly buy BLK.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I can’t even imagine…”Gee Teresa is an awful person, I think I’ll start buying over priced muddy water just to spite Teresa Guidice!”

    • PJ says:

      I think the real mean girl on this show is Jacqueline, if she can damage Teresa she will. No wonder Jac and Caro are close, they are birds of a feather. I think the emotionally fragile thing is an act. It’s poor me look at me, poor me look at me me me me me me.

    • Powell says:

      Birdwoman or anybody Have you tried her Fabillini or hair care products?

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I have not. Never bought a hw related product. Not yet.

        • MM in OC says:

          I bought Lisa’s book – it actually has some good recipes in there. But I think Lisa is the ultimate housewife that they should all try to be; cool, calm, always has the upper hand, smart, rich, and beautiful. I want to be Lisa when I grow up!

      • PJ says:

        I use green products for my hair, which are actually the best I’ve ever used and I’ve tried every good hair care product out there.

    • Donna says:

      I’m chiming in a little late. Gia tried to leave and Jac physically blocked her.

      • Sus says:

        Yup, Gia was asking for her mother. The discussion should have ended there and Theresa called or Gia escorted to her mom. That whole scene was disgusting on numerous levels. 1. Bravo showed it. 2. Jac may have been coming from a good place but it wasn’t going well, she should have shut-up and taken Gia to Theresa or called Theresa into the house. 3. Jac may have been LOVING it since Ashley is 15 years older than Gia and still acts like that. 4. Caroline was LOVING the whole thing. She knew Gia was going to look bad on TV which in turn makes Theresa look bad. She kept at it with Gia long after she should have shut up. 5. Theresa allows her kids on TV.

        Gia is a dramatic. However, in her mind she was being tortured. That is not okay. I hate when adults try to tease a kid when they are upset.

        I’m really pissed at Bravo for not leaving that scene on the cutting room floor. It was way over my line on what I want to see about the RH kids.

        • PJ says:

          You know I actually though Gia was Ok, I understood her reaction. It was Jac and Caro that I thought looked bad because you NEVER treat children like that. I actually felt they were bulling the child. I thought those two adults were horrible. If I had been there I would have given Gia a hug and asked someone to get her mother.

          • I would have hugged Gia & then literally carried her to Teresa, to get away from those 2 hags. Thankfully I’m not a violent person, but it would have been tempting to tell them to STFU and then give them both karate kicks.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Absolutely, bluesky – I’ll join you – we could go ninja on their a$$es!!!!! Take that! and that!!! (not really, I am totally anti-violence) But I do like violins.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I know Donna, it was terrible.

    • dch60 says:

      From what I’ve read, the reason Jac is mad at Teresa is because she feels she stole some of her endorsements. Apparently there was a tooth whitening company after Jac and something else (I forget what) and she claims Teresa swooped in and took all of her opportunities away because Teresa signed with different companies who were selling the same things Jac’s was offered to represent. Because of this, these other companies dropped Jac. I don’t know why it would make a difference since it was two different companies, but that’s the story and it kinda fits with some comments Jac has made… “Teresa stepped on her cast mates to get her deals”… whatever. Sounds to me like you snooze you lose. Either that or it’s just Jac being her delusional self.

      As far as Caroline, she has repeatedly accused Teresa of stirring the pot in her sibling stews. It’s tit for tat. Since Caroline feels that Teresa “ruined” her family, she’s getting back at her by doing the same. The thing is I don’t believe Teresa had anything to do with any of Caroline’s family feuds but we know darn well Caroline had a hand (or two) in Teresa’s. Mission accomplished Caroline. And it was easy because Caroline willing participants and a large army.

      Sorry, but as soon as Caroline said we had to read between the lines to see the terrible things Teresa did all season I knew it was bs. Why should we have to read between the lines? If the things she did were so horrible, it would have been obvious and in our face. And this was before she even knew what the editing would be.

      If Bravo was trying to make Teresa look bad… for the most part, they failed (yes, I know there are those that disagree). When I read the comments on the Bravo blogs, if you look at the likes of each post, the pro-Teresa posts have the highest amount of likes. I guess Bravo doesn’t manipulate those numbers although I must say even the comments that are actually being posted now seem to be more in Teresa’s favor. I submit a comment once in a great while but I rarely go back to see if they were actually posted. The few times I did, I guess it was about 50/50 which is better than it was which used to be zero.

    • bea says:

      I don’t think Jac is that bright.

  6. BB says:

    Good morning everyone. The past couple of days here in southeast VA have been beautiful and it looks like it will continue today. I love it. Hope everyone has a great day today.

  7. AZGirl says:

    Windows are open this a.m. for the first time since April. High of 93 today. Fall is in the air!

  8. thedesigndiva2 says:

    R.I.P. “crooner” Andy Williams…. MOON RIVER
    I had the pleasure of meeting and working with him a few years back when he was doing some remodeling work on his home in Jupiter/Tequesta area… what a nice guy…and funny !!!

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      R.I.P. Andy Williams…how awesome diva you got to meet him..my mom was always over the moon about him

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Oh, so sad – the Lord C and I were dancing the Waltz to Moon River last night at our lessons. We used to watch his variety hour every week when I was a little girl. RIP Mr. Williams.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I hadn’t seen that you posted this designdiva! sorry about that. Lots of great memories with Andy, his show and THAT SONG!!!

    • Powell says:

      Oh no! I like Andy Williams. I can picture him singing Moon River. RIP Andy Williams.

    • dch60 says:

      RIP Andy Williams. What a talented and likable man he was. I too remember watching his show. Don’t remember much about it other than I enjoyed it. I’m picturing him singing Moon River right now. How soothing. Heaven will sound even sweeter now.

  9. LA_Debra says:

    I’m ready for some cooler weather, the earth to stop shaking, and for all the mean behavior to stop on NJ and NY and hopefully BH. Let the meanies go to Miami; it’s like a telenovella and for some reason I can stomach it if I look at it through that perspective.

    • Powell says:

      LA_Debra I agree w/everything except the cool weather. 🙂

      • dch60 says:

        IKR? I agree also but I’m not looking forward to those heating bills. I love it when I can go outside and not worry about whether or not I need a sweater, jacket, scarf, etc. Just shorts and a tee. Oh well, what I do like about winter is it makes me appreciate spring all the more.

  10. ladyballs says:

    ramonacoaster rules.

  11. LaineyLainey says:

    Good Morning, Everyone! I have some sad news: Andy Williams died at 84 at his home in Branson, MO after a long battle with bladder cancer. My sister used to play Moon River on our old out of tune upright piano and she would have me sing along. Kids. Music is so transcending. We imagined we were in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”. We weren’t wealthy, but my dad loved music and made sure we had that piano and then there was the accordian (don’t get me started). 🙂

  12. Exit4 says:

    The magazines will be out after lunch! Teresa is on the cover of one of them. I’ll let u know when I pick them up/ read them! I love magazine Wednesday!

  13. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Poor Aviva has gone twitter crazy…She is now claiming that she had to do “something”b/c the show was getting boring-she had an exchange with Cat Ommanney this morning. I dont not know how to bring whole twitter covos here but I know VV and some others do….

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      I saw that, I loved how she was trying to suck up to Cat and Cat was basically like “I hope you’ve chilled out!”

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Cat doesn’t buy into kiss ass – didn’t work for JZ, won’t work for LaDiva

        • lori says:

          That is why I love Cat…I cannot believe Andy doesn’t have a show for her. She’s worth all the other housewives put together and then some.

    • JustDee says:

      @AvivaDrescher
      @catommanney You looked stunning on #wwhl last night! Loved the dress and hair! Your pregnancy suits you! You should have ur own show. Xoxo

      @catommanney
      @AvivaDrescher Thanks love – hope u have chilled down a bit by now? Quite painful to watch all that drama LOL Xx #RHONY

      ‏@AvivaDrescher
      @catommanney #RHONY totally chill. Lol As u said, it was getting boring. Someone had 2 do it. 😉 xoxo

      ‏@catommanney
      @AvivaDrescher do what doll? xx

  14. RealHousewifeVA says:

    Look like Teresa is going to be on the cover of In Touch and it’s not a very flattering headline “Inside my breakdown”, lol

    • BB says:

      Looks like it’s a damage control article. I think she’s trying to explain why she got so ugly at the reunion; i.e. I was going to try to be nice until everybody ganged up on me and then I couldn’t help myself kind of thing. I wonder who hurled the first personal insult about someone’s dress or looks? It will be interesting to find out. It always tickles me when Teresa says “You’re the devil because you’re wearing red.”

      • The Tin Man says:

        Poor Teresa, always the victim, nothing is ever her fault, even when she’s wrong it’s because somebody made her do it. Once again she proves that what’s most important to her is what you have and how you look. I’m no fan of Caroline but I really wish that when Teresa made those remarks about her appearance she would have said, “I can lose the weight and change my looks, but there’s no cure for stupid.”

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          Or not even about the stupid – but about the ugly that Teresa displays from the inside. I don’t “hate” Teresa, but I cannot see past the ugliness that is always just under the surface and then explodes in such a hideous display. That Vampirella getup that she was wearing in the THs was like a parody on the monster within.

        • RealHousewifeVA says:

          She called her own daughter Stupid at one time, so if I were Teresa I would just say “That’s not nice to say about Lauren” 🙂

      • RealHousewifeVA says:

        In the preview it seems like Caroline insults T’s dress because when T is calling Caroline fat and Melissa says that’s not nice, T says something about “She started it by insulting my dress”

      • VV says:

        It will be interesting to see how Bravo edits it. Their biased edit doesn’t stop when the season is over.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          Lauren may have lost weight, but she is still her mothers little pet. Her face is still filled with the same sour disregard, as her mother. She is too young to be so bitter. Ill mannered, much! IMO.

  15. thedesigndiva2 says:

    Dr no socks…IS NOT the Director for LA County DCFS…

    Click to access DCFS%20Summer%20Newsletter%202012.pdf

    He is the Medical Director..not the man in charge..and after this latest fiasco along with his problems with trying to cheat the IRS he needs to be canned…..

  16. VV says:

    Jac just tweeted:

    “@JacLaurita: Teresa shouldn’t go on TV to say I’m threatening her unless she wants a defamation suit against her. I’ve tried2get her to stop& she doesn’t”

    • LaineyLainey says:

      get off of Twitter JacDaniels!!!!!! Just cyst and disease, would ya?

      • Birdwoman says:

        I just saw that in my facebook new reel. This woman is off her rockers. Really Jacq? You have been spewing hate for over a year and most of her crap is hearsay. I actually think that Teresa should sue her but I am pretty sure they are not allowed to per their contract.

        • PJ says:

          Threatening a lawsuit is a threat, especially where there are really no grounds. So right there Jac is threatening her, she just proved it.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Absolutely PJ – she is threatening Jac. I wonder if she’ll be forgiven for this unlike Russell who was ostracized for threatening to sue. Danielle pressed charges against Ash/lee/ly and I don’t think that helped her position on the show.

      • VV says:

        LMAO 2L!!!

      • Mary E says:

        This is a woman who has an autistic son and a ummmm wayward daughter oh, and financial problems. Does she not have ANYTHING better to than tweet? Maybe put on some more makeup, have a drink and tweet some more.

    • VV says:

      OMG!! TWITTER DIAHRREA AGAIN…, PEPTOBISMOL FOR JAC!

      She’s tweeting pictures of Texts!!!!!!!!!! Non stop

      She’s not tweeting pics of the person that texted her during the Posche show 😦

      • Birdwoman says:

        People on facebook are telling her to stop. Are people on twitter telling her to stop?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          What the hell did Teresa say on Anderson to get Jac all riled up???

          • VV says:

            I don’t know. When it comes to Jac, ANYTHING can trigger her Twitter diarrhea…

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Teresa has a bestseller. blat. Teresa is on the cover of a yet another magazine. blat. Teresa is on a talk show. blaaaaaaaaaat. Teresa won’t reply to my text messages. bllllllaaaaaaaat!

    • VV says:

      Prior to the Twitter diarrhea. She tweeted this.

      “@JacLaurita: I would never swear on my children if I was lying.EVER!I regret saying that now.I was in the moment trying2make a point. Im not denying it”

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        So Bravo took out the repugnant part of her oath but not the whole swearing on her child and she blames “in the moment”? Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit while I am “in a good place” and add this to her list of excuses for her immature, hateful and nasty behavior.

    • Sam says:

      If I were a tweeter, I’d respond with something like: Don’t you have a son to worry about?

      I can’t believe she’s spending this much time and energy on Teresa when she has a child who desperately needs her attention.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        People are tweeting her that and MORE!!

        • Sam says:

          I’m glad to hear this — but given the screenshots posted below, it sounds like it would be better if they took her phone away and flushed it!

      • Powell says:

        Sam I tweeted her. I told her to “STOP IT. Ur acting like a child. Get off of Twitter get off of Teresa. Ur son ur family is more important. They need YOU.”

    • PJ says:

      I didn’t see T saying Wac threatened her just the she was texting her. Which I took took to mean excessively texting which is harassment. Did anyone walk away from that thinking Tre said Wac threatened her? Actually I think that tweet is a threat from Wac.

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    • JustDee says:

      She’s tweeting pictures of texts SHE wrote? No responses from Teresa? LOL. What does THAT prove?!?

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        That she has lost her damn mind (again)

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        It proves that Jac isn’t getting the endorsements/opportunities she wanted – so this is hurting her child. The fact that she has texted and said numerous things that would hurt the Guidice family, which includes children, doesn’t matter. What a turdy poor excuse for a human being!

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  24. RealHousewifeVA says:

    For someone who is soo scary and evil and awful and vile, Jac is still texting her? ODD

  25. RealHousewifeVA says:

    I love how all Jac’s texts show only HER side, and not the whole convo. Even looks like she closed up on her parts only so we wouldn’t see Teresa’s replies. She’s SO CRAZY. And why does she believe everytime people tell her Teresa is talking about her? Usually mature adults ask first before jumping to conclusions. And even IF Teresa is talking about her, she has every right to after all the crap Jac’s been spewing for an entire year now. She’s nuts. Using her son for sympathy…/ GO TAKE CARE OF HIM!!

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      OMG did she delete it all already?! Seriously. She is certifiable.

    • PJ says:

      Tre didn’t say anything bad to Wac just asked her to stop, I wonder what Wac said that prompted Tre’s text. Interesting that Wac only shows what she wants to be seen and not what she does herself. Typical Wac.

  26. lovemamaearth says:

    Were all the poll results posted? I looked for awhile & gave up.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      The polls from above? If you check each poll, on the bottom left there is a link that says view results.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I mean from previous polls–maybe I’m just not seeing it. I thought I’d been checking daily but must have missed some. Thanks for the reply.

  27. WindyCityWondering says:

    Wetpaint captured Wacky Jacky’s twitter rant so it will be all over the internet soon. And there are articles that Teresa may be in negotiations for her own show – that would be enough to send Jac over the edge too.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      Yah I read about Teresa’s own show on radaronline, I think that’s setting off Wacky Jacky.
      And it’s hilarious how she makes sure to watch every show Teresa appears on. I knew she was going to be on Anderson but I didn’t set my clock to make sure I didn’t miss it. I wouldn’t want to keep watching someone I hated so much..lol

      • dch60 says:

        Didn’t she complain about Danielle doing this to her and her family? AGAIN with the hypocrisy! I know everyone is to some extent but she is so daggone blatant about it. I can’t believe she hasn’t gotten the message to stop it already.

  28. Powell says:

    T said they all look forward to Posche’s fashion shows. I don’t see anything to look forward to.

  29. WindyCityWondering says:

    Question to the twitter literate – If Teresa has Wacky Jacky blocked then there would be no responses from her?

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      Teresa never replies to them.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Thanks – I wouldn’t reply to the lunatic either.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          I don’t think Jac tweeted those message to Teresa on twitter. Jac tweeted on her own timeline and posted shots of text messages she sent on the phone to Teresa.

          My guess is Jac never posted Teresa’s replies because there was none. Jac is trying to prove that she didn’t send Teresa threatening or harassing messages to Teresa but doesn’t get that it’s not the content that is objectionable, it’s the fact that she is sending a barrage of them despite being ignored.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            If all I knew about her were the tweets from this morning, I would characterize her as a typical stalker. My daughter had to take a stalker to court and he didn’t understand that repeatedly sending someone texts no matter how benign you think you are being, it’s still harassment… any way you slice it, it’s unwanted and no one’s replying SO STOP.

            The judge asked him “So you’re not denying that you did all of these things?”
            Stalker: “No your honor”,
            Judge: “Then why didn’t you sign the order? Why did you choose to come to court – this is offered to defendants who wish to contest the charges”
            Stalker: “I thought if we could spend more time together (in court), she would see that I really do love her and maybe she would change her mind.”
            Judge looks over at my daughter. “Young lady, have you changed your mind?”
            My daughter: sobbing
            Judge: “The order stands”

            He was ordered to stay away from her for two years and to go to court ordered counseling.

            • rabblerouser2010R says:

              Oh wow, how scarey for your family. I hope the creep is staying away.
              if something happened to one of my girls like that (when they get older), not only would that be stressful but I would also be worried about my husband trying to take the matter into his own hands.

              • Powell says:

                RR you are right. Husbands/fathers don’t play when it comes to their family esp when it comes to their wife and daughters.

            • Powell says:

              WTH Lainey? He thought if she saw him again she would see how much he really loved her? He is sick. Thk you Judge for signing that order. I hope little Lainey is ok.

            • Orson says:

              I think that when some restraining orders are issued, the plaintiff should also be given a concealed carry permit. Just sayin.

              • Powell says:

                I get you Orson.

              • dch60 says:

                Good idea although each state would still be different. I have a permanent restraining order on my ex-husband. Luckily he didn’t show in court. He didn’t even reply to the divorce complaint even though we had a considerable amount of assets. Then he complained and called me the bad guy when he didn’t like the judge’s ruling. I could go on and on but don’t worry guys, I won’t… lol

              • trudie says:

                Agreed.

            • dch60 says:

              That’s creepy Lainey. Hope everything has calmed down now.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Thanks for weighing in everyone. It was hellish. We think he moved away back to his hometown – she doesn’t hear about him hanging out at his usual haunts. I can only pray he’s not just waiting for the order to expire to re-emerge. But we can’t go through life scared and worrying.

                • trudie says:

                  (((Lainey and daughter)))

                  • Called A Princess... says:

                    Lainey I am sorry about your daughter. I am glad the judge saw it as a serious issue. I agree and have felt for a while that Jac behave’s like a classic stalker. When you really do not care for someone, why spend so much energy on them. There is something very tragic about this on going story. Teresa has been pretty good about keeping most of the drama on the show, on the show. Jac’s not so much! IMO.

                    • MamaZ says:

                      Wow LL.
                      It is so scary when the other person is so sure he can convince you that you should be together. I hope he has moved away but I pity the poor girl he takes up with in his hometown.

                    • Powell says:

                      Right CAP. She must be exhausted tweeting about a former friend. Chris has to be sick of it. She needs to take her father’s advice and move on.

                • lori says:

                  I hope his family got him some serious mental health help! Good for your daughter to stand up for herself despite being afraid!

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    Thanks again friends for your words of concern and support. My prayer is that he did get help, has moved on and will never contact my daughter again, ever.

          • PJ says:

            But Jac may not be posting every message she sent to Tre either, she could be selective about what she posts to make herself look better. But I agree with other posts that the volume of messages with no reply is harassment and perhaps stalking.

      • mrs. peabody says:

        and that my friends probably p*sses her off even more.

    • PJ says:

      I don’t twitter could someone who knows how bring Wac’s postings here for all to read?

  30. dch60 says:

    LaineyLainey… Regarding yesterday’s comments, I just wanted to respond to your thoughts on Danielle not being known as a liar. I have to agree with you and I myself have even defended her on this same point before so I don’t know what I was thinking adding that in the my post about not trusting what she may say. I do believe she is delusional at times but that’s not the same as intentionally lying. I should have worded it that OTHERS may not take it for the truth. Because she is overtly flawed, she may not be looked upon as credible by many, not that that’s necessarily fair. I never hated Danielle. I thought she was entertaining in season one and actually liked her somewhat. She kinda went off the rails in season two, but knowing what I know now especially, I can’t say I blame her now as much as I did then. She far from perfect and there were times that I thought her behavior was atrocious but she WAS a real housewife after all… that’s almost a given… at least with some (many? most?) of them. One thing about Danielle… she has lovely daughters in every way and I hope they are still doing well. I’m sure they are, they seemed to have exceptional cores. I wonder how Christina’s modeling is going.

    Now I’m off the read today’s blogs. Thanks in advance to all the bloggers.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      HI DCH60 – yes, I saw your reply to my question about how I couldn’t remember her being a liar. It is amazing what a few years can do to our perspective on things. You’re right, she’s not perfect (far from it). She was brought in to be made fun of and to be the punching bag for the rest of the cast (in my opinion); it wasn’t pretty. I probably should have stopped watching after that. Now look at me. I can’t quit them. Maybe after the reunion?

      • klmh says:

        When Caroline accused her of doing something to Dina, she sat there and said she didn’t know what she was talking about. Lie. Off to read the rest of this…

        • LaineyLainey says:

          KLMH, I don’t remember her lying…I think I remember Danielle saying “What did I do to Dina” and Caroline couldn’t say it because DINA HAD DONE SOMETHING SHADY, signing her husband’s name (forgery) so that her daughter could be on the show. Danielle didn’t DO that to Dina. I think Danielle told Dina’s ex? Or told someone that told her ex? But I do not remember Danielle lying about it. Dina’s actions caused problems with the ex and I think she was afraid that her ex would fight for custody because of Dina’s forgery.

          • dch60 says:

            It was obvious Dina didn’t want Danielle to respond because then it would have made her look bad. Dumb ass Caroline. No wonder Dina won’t talk to her.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              Danielle still lied about not knowing what Caroline was talking about, at the reunion. Also she lied about the pictures she stated her boy toy was sending around of them having sex. It turned out she was the one sending the material. Danielle always seemed lost in space, to me. I did not trust her motives and she seemed rather desperate. This does not excuse the way the others treated her, but I considered her dangerous and not of “love and light,” as she would have had us believe. JMHO.

              • dch60 says:

                That’s right there were instances in season 2 where she got caught in lies. Like I said, I didn’t mind her the first season but she lost it season 2. That whole season was a mess too. It’s amazing how this season actually makes previous seasons look tame when they actually been whacked all along.

            • MamaZ says:

              She said a lot of stuff in her book about her adoptive mother that her family and friends claim were out and out lies. Of course they could just be protecting each other. But she told an outlandish story about her birth mother and finding her or something that was obviously fabricated. Can’t remember the whole story but it was cray cray.

        • Powell says:

          Right. I forgot about that klmh.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            One thing I have always thought is that Danielle was a person that had a poor relationship with the truth. JMHO.

            • And a shady character, bad morals plus she kidnapped that person for ransom in Florida, after she helped steal some cocaine….what a mess her life was. The sex tape, made at home where she lived with her daughters….? Just more bad choices. Mostly I feel sorry for Danielle, but then she had a part in every bad decision she made. It’s a miracle that her kids have turned out as well as they have.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                The show, The show!!! I was talking about what I saw on the show!!! 🙂

                • Called A Princess... says:

                  LOL Lainey. Even though the show is on cable and Bravo, there are still standards. There is no way that they could have showed half the garbage Danielle was into. She is dangerous. But I do not believe that that is why she left the show. My feeling is that Bravo seemed to perceive her has being litigious and had fears that this would cost them lots of money. JMHO.

  31. Powell says:

    There’s an article on jezebel.com dated 9-24 NJ producer reveals just how Dar reality tv can go. I’m on Twitter on my phone and don’t know how to paste the link. Sorry guys.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Thanks Powell, I found a full link
      http://jezebel.com/real-housewives/

      • VV says:

        Bravo IS SCUM!

      • lizzle says:

        YAY! They have a link to the lynnfam and No More Drama’s “Viewer Manipulation” article. Congrats!

      • PJ says:

        Why is anyone surprised?

      • “At the start of the season the production team sits down and gives a general overview of where we want the storyline for the show to go. ALL of the wives are in on this. We discuss popular storylines from the season before, story lines that need tying up, and also ways of threading in new storylines that look organic to the story. Do you really think we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on just following these woman around with no plan? No, the season and the storyline has a basic outline from the first day. The feud [between Caroline and Teresa] that you are being fed is for television only and there are bigger issues there. It’s up to the wives what they choose to put out into the public forum; nothing is forced on them.”

        This is what a production supervisor from RHONJ season 3 & 4 said.

        But then who decided to splice & dice audio, put scenes out of filmed order…and who tried to make one cast member – Teresa – look bad all season long? Who pushed the 4 against 1? The producers did that. And it backfired, Teresa is more popular than ever, altho it remains to be seen how she turns out on the reunion.

        It’s all done for the advertising revenue which depends on the ratings….so the show is based on reality? Ha! More like reality on steroids.

        “nothing is forced on them” sounds like a cheap excuse for the drama that breaks up a family, friends, and pushed one person to suicide on RHOBH.

  32. Powell says:

    Also on Twitter. Radaronline has an article Bravo in talks w/Guidice family for Breakout show.

    • PJ says:

      If T’s family does get a new show and RHNJ stays on the air the love fest with Melissa won’t last long. This will be the same story it’s been since the beginning—gang up on one person who then becomes public enemy number one—while the rest of the cast are angels who never do anything wrong. These people can’t change, it’s what they do and who they are. We bought it with Danielle because she wasn’t easy to like and this show was new so we didn’t know who Caro and Wac really were. They have exposed themselves now and we know what they are like especially as we see them doing it all over again. It makes me wonder just what did Danielle actually do to them because there was nothing shown on the show? I’m wondering if what Danielle did is as real as all of Wac’s texts at the PFS.

      BTW Teresa doesn’t mic people or have a say as to who is and who isn’t given a mic so if Angelo came to the fashion show wearing a mic then it was in the plot line for him to talk to Melissa and whatever else he said was meant to be heard. It is obvious that Wac was fully aware of what was going to happen from her actions that have been pointed out by others on this blog (her wave and pointing to the mic and her smirk), interesting. Now just how did Teresa pull this off? This is laughable.

      • Powell says:

        Danielle wanted to be Dina and Caroline’s friend in a bad way. The only thing she did that I didn’t like was get thugs to protect her and bring them to the fundraiser at the Brownstone when they weren’t invited. Oh I forgot, she got into a Twitter battle w/teenage Ashley. That was also a stupid thing to do.

        • PJ says:

          That’s true but at the end of two very rough seasons where she was constantly attacked.

          • dch60 says:

            I didn’t like that she did that either but you’re correct, the attacks were relentless. If someone pushes and pushes eventually they are going to get pushed back. At the last dinner with Caroline and Danielle, Danielle asked Caroline what she did to her and Caroline gave some line of bs that everything she did to anyone in her family, she did to her too. But it caught Caroline off guard and she seriously had to think for a moment. What’s unknown is what caused the problem in the very first place, before the show even started. I still find it curious that they aren’t even questioning Melissa for getting in touch with Danielle in the first place after all she knew about the problems.

            • Powell says:

              I don’t know dch60. Yeah she should’ve told her good friend Jac about her past but that’s her past, she wasn’t living that life now so I have no idea what Caroline’s prob was w/Danielle just like I don’t know what her real prob is w/T. Face it. Caroline really doesn’t like outsiders.

              • PJ says:

                Why should she have told Jac? The only person in the world who has a right to know everything about me is my husband, it ‘s no one else’s business. I feel that way about everyone I don’t think people have to share unless they want to.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Yes, she did a lot of less than intelligent things.

          • MamaZ says:

            IMO Danielle is a very damaged person who should never have been on a reality show. She obviously craves love and approval. The first NJ set up was letting her believe she stood a chance of getting it from the Manzo women who never had any intention of befriending her. Bravo was throwing poeple to the wolves from episode 1 of NJ.

            My guess is that Jaq did know at least some of her background. And she tipped off Caroline. Sweet little Jaq has no problem selling out a friend for her share of the goods.

        • Exit4 says:

          Before the show started filming in 2008, the ladies secured a lawyer to make sure they got a good deal from bravo. Everyone was supposed to contribute, but when it was time to pay up-Danielle didn’t pay and started a whole thing about them taking food out of her kids mouths and pretty much was a drama queen about it. She kept harping on it with Jac who just had a miscarriage. Also, before filming (but after they met) Teresa invites d to her shore house and she has sex or close to it with Steve on her deck in few view of the kids. She was grossed out. The day she met Jac they talked in the salon for 3 hours or something and d showed her naked pics of herself in her phone!

          So when they started actually filming, she had pissed off everyone but Jac, who gave her the benefit of the doubt as to the lawyer fees. We know how it ends!

          • Called A Princess... says:

            Exit4, you are correct. Dina talked about it, somewhere. Dina felt that Danielle had used the group to get a good deal and then was unwilling to pay her share. That is what I mean by dangerous. People talk about honest, but there are different types of honest, and Danielle did not seem to feel compelled when it came to her personal honesty. Yes, if she could spill the tea on someone else, then honesty was fine, but she was very good at weaseling her way out of her own personal truth on many occasions, on the show. JMHO.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              I didn’t know about no Lawyuhs, Cap. Thanks for the enlightenment

            • amalfi says:

              Danielle is neither honest nor scrupulous, but (at the time) all four of those ladies had the means to cover lawyer fees and Danielle was obviously (maybe not so obvious then) did not have the money.

              I think everyone was petty from the beginning.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                amalfi, Danielle strikes me as the type that would not be above a bait and switch where she would commit to pay, without an issue and then once the services were rendered, refuse to pay. Since she was not that close to the rest of the cast, probably not the best way to start off a working relationship. Trust is a pretty important thing. IMO.

          • dch60 says:

            I had never heard that anything like that before! Finally some sort of answer that makes sense. Well I had heard something about sex with the guy she just met (Steve) at Teresa’s shore house. Anyway, I guess that’s why they all considered Jac “weak” or too forgiving.

  33. rabblerouser2010R says:

    People on twitter are saying that Andreson Cooper was a complete dick to Teresa who was on his show today. Anyone see it?

    • BB says:

      He was kinda just from this video. I didn’t see it I think that woman is a blogger for Reality Tea

      http://www.andersoncooper.com/videos/

      • BB says:

        You have to select the Teresa Guidice video from the right hand side.

      • PJ says:

        Although this show isn’t on in my area for a couple of hours I watched the video and he was not very nice to Teresa. If your’re going to have a guest then give them a chance to talk and don’t be so one sided. I hate talk show hosts who do that and it reminded why I don
        t watch Anderson. The woman sitting next to him was Kelly Pickler BTW. She shaved her head.

        Interesting what Tre said about Wac’s texts to her. I believe it.

      • dch60 says:

        On it, he chastises Teresa for not “being supportive” of Jac re: her son’s autism. Teresa did say that she texted her saying she sorry to hear it and hopes everything turns out okay. Anderson says Teresa should have called her. WTH? After all the nasty, horrible things Jac has done to her, I can just imagine what Jac would have turned it into if Teresa had called her. I can’t blame her for not calling. Not at this point. She acknowledged it… that’s enough IMO.

    • VV says:

      I haven’t but if he did not surprised there since he is Andy’s buddy.

      Also, did anybody catch Jimmy Fallon last night on WWHL? Jimmy likes Teresa. Andy’s face when Jimmy told him was priceless. He could not hide he (Andy) his disappointed.

    • ladyballs says:

      anderson cooper is on wwhl a lot. so no stretch to think he’s not a tre fan, especially if andy isn’t.

    • amalfi says:

      wow – Andy must’ve been something on that boys cruise he took with Anderson Cooper over the summer. Can he get any further up Andy’s ass

    • Powell says:

      It comes on at 4 est in MD.

    • Patti says:

      I don’t think he was a dick, but he was tough. He asked all of the questions that we wish Andy would ask but doesn’t. I’d love to see him with all of the ‘Wives. I think the reunions would be more interesting and not need to come with a Xanax warning.

      http://www.toofab.com/2012/09/26/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-teresa-giudice-anderson-live-attacked/

      • dch60 says:

        From the clip I saw, I think it’s unreasonable of him to think Teresa should have called Jac when she found out about Nicolas. Not after the way Jac has abused Teresa relentlessly on Twitter for starters.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      I didn’t watch it but I noticed he tweeted pics of Kelsey Grammar and Kellie Pickler from the show but nothing of Teresa. Also, he’s Andy’s BFF and I think he hates Teresa, too. Most of the celebs seem to dislike her (wendy williams, Kelly Ripa, Anderson cooper)

      • Called A Princess... says:

        I think they feel that she insults their lofty positions in the world. Teresa does not come off as very smart and these people want to believe that the reason they are famous is because they are special. I think to them she is special in all the wrong ways. A dangerous outsider. And all these people seem to be friends with Andy Cohen, of all people. Would any mature person be friends with Andy. My answer would be no. I can understand him watching reality for the entertainment, but it would seem to be beneath Mr. Cooper to jump into the interpersonal relationships in the scripted, highly edited reality, of Bravo TV. It does not stop him. I have little respect for him now, as always. JMHO.

      • dch60 says:

        Honestly, many celebs don’t like reality “stars” in general.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          Correct. But Anderson can not say that, because he really is a fan. He has really liked NeNe in the past. So for me it in more injecting himself into a dangerous dialogue of conflict over fantasy when his real job is as a serious news man. I am not a fan of the news media but he should really no better and try to a least keep some of his biases to himself. I would not base my moral compass on much that Anderson/Andy have to put forward about any of the housewives. JMHO.

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      Geez people…I saw the clip..he got a little testy with her when she blatantly accused Jac of stalking her…why does everyone get so defensive with anyone that isn’t jumping on the Teresa bandwagon.? I don’t get it

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Somebody grab a rope, I’m gonna LASSO cdnfillie and put her on the wagon!! I’m gonna need help CDNFillie is FAST!!

  34. Exit4 says:

    Well she was on the in touch cover. No surprise there! It’s the same general type of article, except she admits to losing it after the reunion. Apparently she cries and cried and at this point she’s gotten closer to her mother. Her mother is supporting her (emotionally). The pictures are funny-faux plaintive! She pretty much says that this whole thing is exactly what she didn’t want when the family joined the show. Also Life and Style has a reunion preview, nothing new there. They show clips of jacs autistic som and they all cry except for Teresa. Her and Caroline go after each others looks. Kathy and her get into it over Lathys family. Lastly, us weekly has a reunion article. They passed out Xanax like candy, Kim d confesses to setting up Melissa, for promoting other stores (including another Posh! Pick a new name for yur stores people!) Andy is disgusted with Teresa for yelling at Jac because her son has autism…and there’s implies she had a hand in strippergate which should surprise exactly no one. They also say she goes after Kathy’s marriage. How it gets started I don’t know it didn’t say.

    Sorry for no direct quotes, I didn’t even bother to buy them this week b/c it’s a waste at this point! Went from memory! But, still the same deal, each and every magazine is focused on Teresa, for good or for bad! oh just remembered, they speculate on who will return for season 5, and Teresa is not the list. The in touch article ftr is not 100% positive towards Teresa, as it never is, but us and life and style are pretty harsh! And Gorga/Manzo affiliated! Which is not any different than what they accused Teresa of doing all season…this reunion will be hell! I am not watching, but judging by the ratings for the finale, it will get a lot of eyes, which means another season of this. Unless, people shut it off. Revenge is back Sunday, that’s what I’m watching. And 666 park ave!

    Oh and Jac needs to stay of twitter! She really needs help! Stop it Jac!

    • Exit4 says:

      Oops should have said Teresa is on the list to return. She’s not going anywhere anytime soon. Although she will get a friend.

    • trudie says:

      “Andy is disgusted with Teresa for yelling at Jac because her son has autism…” So, because her son is autistic, Jac’s behavior gets a pass?

      • Exit4 says:

        That is sort of the general idea. Go easy on Jac, she’s having a hard time, her son has autism. I guess she gets a pass for it or Andy believes she should get one.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          While Jac’s keeps throwing hand grenade in Teresa’s general direction. I feel badly for the child but the mother does not get a free pass for her morbid behavior. The people on Manzo/Laurtia side do not look very smart if they think Jac’s is not above using the child’s illness for attention and a free pass. Teresa seems very alone but not concerned. I do not understand how she keeps going with so much negative energy around her. JMHO.

          • dch60 says:

            I hate to say it, but I found the timing of Jac releasing the info about her son suspect.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Absolutely – she was waiting for the finale and reunion. She might have even been advised to do so, as they all seem to be surrounded by geniuses.

    • Powell says:

      Exit I’m looking forward to Revenge and seeing my girl Vanessa Williams on 666 Park Avenue. Is 666 going to be as evil as Damien in The Omen. We’ll have to see. 🙂

      Could you live at that address? Yikes.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      Wait, Teresa says something to Jac about her autistic son that upsets Andy, or he just basically feels like Teresa shouldn’t yell at Jac at all because she has an autistic son. Because if it’s the latter, that’s a load of horsesh*t and exactly the reason Jac went public with her son’s condition right before the reunion taping (IMO). She can tell Teresa “YOU’RE GOING TO HELL” but Teresa needs to stay quiet? Unreal. Jac got out of last reunion and she’s using her son to get a pass on this one. Please get rid of her.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        Andy must really hate Teresa. He is really immature and an instigator of bad will. Not only that, but it makes him directly involved in the drama between women. Not very manly or honest for that matter, because he is not a woman. Ramona should be looking at him with a stink eye. This is no girls trip.The reunion is going to be a massacre. IMO.

      • PJ says:

        The meaner they are to Teresa the more popular she becomes. They probably all got together and decided what to do to make Teresa upset at the reunion they probably felt that if Teresa went off on them it would serve to negate their own bad behavior. It’s already started people are criticizing Teresa and the reunion hasn’t even aired yet. It seems that in some people’s eyes Teresa can’t do anything right.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          She is so much more interesting as a character then the others on the crew. She is rarely dull. I do think that the others were making a last ditch effort to send Teresa over the edge, with Cohen’s blessing, so that they could confirm to the world that she is the She- Devil. IMO.

          • dch60 says:

            No matter what Teresa won’t win. If she reacts they will claim that she is showing how awful she truly is. If she doesn’t react they will say she has no heart, doesn’t feel emotions, is cold and calculating. If she gets defensive it will prove she’s been guilty about everything. If she remains calm it will prove she’s been guilty. If she screams and yells it will prove she’s guilty as charged. If she doesn’t say one word it will prove she’s guilty. If she didn’t show up… guilty. It’s been that way all season. She can’t win for losing. I’m sure Teresa has heard over and over that she’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. The fact that she used that wording in her blog only proves that she’s read the viewers’ comments this season.

  35. amalfi says:

    scroll to 41;49 and watch Jacqueline wave to someone (the woman behind Angelo who mouths ‘oh my god’) and then point to her mic and smirk.

  36. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Someone on twitter pointed out that all Jac’s tweets were within a minute of each other. It went from ‘This was hard on everyone, let’s just be at peace with each other’ to “SHAME ON YOU” within 60 seconds. https://twitter.com/GregsLooseHole/status/251020059835785216/photo/1/large

    I know there is a mixed feelings about Teresa here (which is great) but can we all agree that Jac is nuttier than a shit house rat?

    • The Tin Man says:

      Yep.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      A shithouse rat with rabies.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        Then what is your opinion of her inane and seemingly maniac tweet rants?

        • klmh says:

          I think she has gone thru as much tragedy this year as any on this board, perhaps more. She has lost her best friend from what she considers betrayal, her family’s financial position is in serious jeopardy, but most of all, her son has been diagnosed with a disease that makes Alzheimer’s look petty. Being called out as a supposed stripper on national TV by her former best friend isn’t something she relished either, I suppose.
          She is on the edge I would imagine, probably most of us would be too in her situation, but to call her names, to me, isn’t right.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            I’ll agree with that. As well as Aviva being in over her head and over reacting just as many of us would if our triggers were pressed so publicly. But she did go on a reality tv show so they probably expect some kind of feedback.

            What I don’t get is, why don’t they all hire someone to PR them before they do this stupid behavior. Seems Teresa did that & it includes them writing her blogs– from what is said here.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              I should say I don’t watch NJ. I think they’re all underhanded on that show.

            • klmh says:

              Hi lme. We have heard Caroline say she’s going to be mellow at a particular event, yadda yadda, and bam, she can’t control herself. None of these ladies, except Kathy, can. Maybe that’s why so many think Kathy is boring, because she can control herself and drama drives the shows, so she gets called names and is ridiculed because why? idk..

              • lovemamaearth says:

                I guess I like the boring ones. I like Carole. We never got a chance to know Jen Gilbert. Repetitive drama is boring to me. And imo weakens society (dumbing down and rewarding the bad) So yes I don’t know either. ((( KLMH )))

                • dch60 says:

                  I always say that I’m happy when my life is boring. Too much of any kind of excitement, good or bad, exhausts me after a while. I also think that while Kathy may be boring, she gets her fair share of digs in. She’s not an angel.

          • MamaZ says:

            klmh – I think you are a really good person. I love that you look for the good in other people as well but I don’t think it’s always there.

            Jaq’s problems were obvious before her son’s diagnosis or her fight with Teresa.
            We know she has been violent in the past since she admits to punching Caroline. In my book that’s as bad or worse than a table flip.

            She was willing to exploit her problems with her daughter on a very successful tv show for a storyline. It’s hard for me to imagine that her problems with Teresa would be more painful than that but she didn’t miss a reunion filming because of Ashley. Ashley herself said that her mother was always involved with drama. We saw her badmouthing Danielle in front of her son when he was small. And he knew exactly who she was talking about because he said”you mean Danielle”. And remember Danielle had been a close family friend as well. How confusing that must have been for him.

            I am so thankful that both my children are healthy. I sympathize with anyone who has a child with any problems. But when you have a child with challanges you can rise to the occasion or sink. Full disclosure. I have a neice with Cerebral Palsy. She is in a wheelchair. My sister and BIL were briefly devasted then hose to swim rather than sink. The same sister’s colege roommate has a child with Downs Syndrome. These are not things we want for our children but they are also not death sentences and have ther own rewards.
            I think Jaq is weak and immature. But I do wish the best for Nicholas.

            • lovemamaearth says:

              Good points Mamaz.

            • rabblerouser2010R says:

              Exactly….
              Nor do I think Jac’s crazy twitter rantings are reflective of her sons dx. She has always (from what we have seen on the show before she even conceived Nic) been dramatic. I know that khlm is coming from a good place but it’s trouble to see that is able to use her son’s dx as a free pass to her behavior. As I mentioned before, this is exactly why I think she threw in the fact that Nic is autistic when she ‘swearing an oath’ of Teresa’s supposed guilt.
              I also don’t feel bad that her and Chris lied to their lawyer and on bankruptcy document and now might have to pay back what they owe, in the same fashion that I don’t feel bad for Teresa and Joe.

              • rabblerouser2010R says:

                “I know that khlm is coming from a good place but it’s trouble to see that is able to use her son’s dx as a free pass to her behavior. ”
                should be
                “I know that khlm is coming from a good place but it’s troubling to see that Jac is able to use her son’s dx as a free pass to her behavior.”

              • PJ says:

                I don’t feel bad either but Jac doesn’t own it , of course she expects Tre to own it. Double standard = bully.

            • klmh says:

              I think you make some good points Mamaz. My first reaction would be that Jacq’s daughter got a paycheck and was willing to be on national TV, whatever the case. Yes, it was a storyline, but it was for both of them, and both got paid. Jacq was asked back to do the next year’s NJHW, so it worked for her. Didn’t have anything else going on to keep her interesting.
              As far as her punching Caroline in the arm, I don’t know how hard she punched her, but if someone approached me and told me I needed to stay home with my newborn, to get into my life and tell me I was wrong, I might just haul off and hit her myself. Know it all b. that Caroline can be. And how long has Caroline been telling her what to do? Ugh.
              The Danielle thing is still confusing to me. I think she felt betrayed by her as well. Didn’t
              they hug it out though? Lots behind the scenes that we didn’t see there, imo.
              Last year before shooting the season, she knew about her child and was also in a bad place financially. She used to be a favorite, but I believe her actions/reactions are results of the traumas in her life.
              She may be immature and weak, I don’t know. I know that there are individualistic psychological limits and some are tougher than others.
              I have a friend that has a child that was diagnosed with Autism. Its been 10 years, and she is still looking for I don’t know what, but its not a diagnosis that people necessarily accept immediately. It takes years sometimes to adjust and often parents will blame themselves. The guilt has to be extraordinary, but no one can tell them its not their fault until they figure it out by themselves, another lengthy process. I can’t judge her because I haven’t been in her shoes, thank God. Just can’t.

              • MamaZ says:

                ((((klmh))))
                You are a wonderful person. Don’t ever change.

                But, lol, there’s always a but. I thought they said Jaq punched Caroline in the face. That’s pretty bad. And everyone thinks they’re actions are justified. She was really angry for a reason. Probably a good reason, but Teresa thinks she’s justified tooo. They all do.

                I really can’t stand RHNJ anywmore.

                • klmh says:

                  🙂 ! Isn’t that the truth. Sitting here laughing… but, but, but…

                  I don’t know, I think she apologized to Caroline for her whack. C. is quite the know-it-all though, and with hormones raging, she just couldn’t stand it anymore. I am still going thru hormone changes of a different sort, menopause, and I feel like whacking someone or something sometimes. My flashes are still bad, and right before they hit, I get really angry. Thank God it goes away in a few seconds, or I could be deadly.

                  • Nancy says:

                    klmh,
                    I think you are a wonder person as well. I think some of Jacq’s problems would go away
                    if she put down the alcohol.

                    • klmh says:

                      Im afraid that’s whats causing her to imbibe, but as we know, that doesn’t work. It just dims the senses until the next morning.
                      Thank you Nancy. That was appreciated.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                I am sorry about your friend; I too have witnessed many diagnoses being given to many families. The folks who can’t take THEIR OWN EGO out of the equation never seem to be able to find acceptance and peace. Thus unable/unwilling to do the right thing for their babies. As soon as they are able to complete the full cycle of denial, anger, grief,..and put all of that aside…only then can they experience acceptance and achieve the ability to really be on their kid’s team FOR REAL. Where the kid is the number one priority. I see heroes everyday; parents who know and accept the truth and spend their available parenting time (when they are not at work) HELPING the situation. I rarely see them having time for negativity in their lives because they’re so intensely working and so so so grateful for things the rest of us take for granted: their children making a joke, laughing at a joke, hugging, smiling, etc. Because of all the wonderful people I have seen handling this so differently from the way Jac seems to be handling it, I do have a lot of compassion for anyone who is dealing with Autism. But I don’t see Jac putting her ego aside, yet. Perhaps she has yet to even begin processing her son’s situation. Perhaps that is PRECISELY WHY she lives on twitter; if she stops tweeting it will force her to look at what’s really happening. It is hard to do that. To face the truth.

                • klmh says:

                  Oh, my friend and her husband are devoted to this child. Her life evolves around him. Please don’t put her down. Because she had a difficult time believing the diagnosis has no bearing on the help this child has received. I don’t appreciate your condemnation of people who don’t accept life changes immediately. It is judgmental LL and some people obviously don’t meet your standards. Im done on this issue with you.

                  • klmh says:

                    revolves, damn you spell check.

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    KLMH – You may be done with me, but I am not done with you. I said I was sorry about your friend. After that, I wasn’t talking about your friend. I was referring to the many families that I have witnessed firsthand coping with this. It’s my own life experience. I maintain that I do feel for your friend. I am not judging them.. I don’t know them so how could I judge them? You made some inferences based on what you read, and I have no control over that. All I can offer is sympathy and hope for your friends and the future of their child. I feel that you are judging me and twisting my words solely because I disagree with your opinion about a person on a reality TV show. It’s best not to take things too personally. And by not taking things personally, I am trying to say, please don’t call me judgmental. Please don’t call me names and I promise not to call you names either. Just like in pre-school. 🙂

            • dch60 says:

              Very good points. Character is what a person is in the dark. – Dwight L. Moody.

    • Powell says:

      Nuttier than nasty christmas fruit cake.

    • stellastars21 says:

      I thought the reason her tweets were posted so fast is because she was posting her texts so why does it seem odd they were tweeted shortly apart?

  37. VV says:

    Somebody asked Jac on Twitter why does always talk about Teresa and Teresa never mentions her on Twitter. 
    Jac’s reply:

    it’s all done in our social circle & in the industry that’s why @Tif@TiffanyM48

    I think Xanas finally kicked in because she went on and tweeted other stuff amongst them:

    “What is everyone doing today? I’m on computer researching Autism websites & twittering obviously.”

    • amalfi says:

      She needs to get off whatever prescription medications she is hooked on — or at least not mix them with alcohol.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And Caroline needs to get her under control before she ruins all the Manzo/Laurita business opportunties.

        • Nancy says:

          I’d love to know how Lauren’s shop is really doing. I don’t believe that it is “thriving”
          as it said on the finale.

          • dch60 says:

            Caroline also said that each of her children are very successful and have achieved it all on their own. THAT line made me choke for real.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      after every one of her rampages, she then tweets about how she’s having a wonderful day and how it’s such a happy day or some other loony thing. I mean, how can you be so incensed one second, doing your best to ‘out’ someone, then turn around and be all ‘happy, happy, happy’ Someone needs to send her to a psychiatrist. I’m not kidding. I think there’s a lot more going on there.

    • PJ says:

      What the world is Wac Jac talking about? I honestly don’t understand.

  38. I’m not going to to lie, I used to be a big fan of Jac but good lord she has lost her damn marbles….they all need to PUT DOWN THE CELL PHONES and step AWAY from TWITTER. I need a damn xanax and the reunion hasn’t even aired yet!!! They really should just start from scratch because while I know that T has a huge fan base and there is obviously a market for this family drama I have a feeling if they continue with the same line up they have this year (even plus or minus the manzorita clan) the viewership will go down significantly. This isn’t “family strife” for TV drama, this is outright nastiness that certainly I and I’m sure other people can’t tolerate anymore, no matter what “team” anyone is on.

    • MamaZ says:

      I agree Obsessed. I only watched a few minutes of NJ Sunday night and it upset me so much I dreamed about families fighting.

    • dch60 says:

      Agree. I used to watch rerun after rerun of each episode and now I can barely get through the first showing. I’m recording the reunion episodes so I can fast forward when it gets to be too much. I have a feeling I’ll get through an episode in a few minutes. So sad.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      I agree. I think they have all gone too crazy and are all way too obsessed with ‘the industry’ like Jac tweeted, than living a normal life. I’m sure there are plenty of other NJ women who can make an interesting show without all the darkness. Sadly, though, they have the highest ratings of all the franchises and that is all Andy and Co. care about.

    • klmh says:

      Can you imagine being on anyone’s team with this mess? We do not know what happened but I would imagine we are all grateful we aren’t related to any of these people.
      Its heartbreaking to know so many would sell their soul and family relationships for a paycheck, fame or any of the other supposed benefits from these shows.
      This show needs to fall into the abyss, as far as Im concerned. This is not entertainment anymore, this is a continual therapy session/lesson on how not to treat others in your life. The train wreck has happened.The damage is done, the passengers are dead, mutilated beyond recognition, and bits and pieces of their lives have been broken and destroyed. I need to drive away without looking in the rear view mirror. But not yet.

      • Nancy says:

        klmh,
        So many horrible things have happened to the people that sign up for these Housewives shows. Now it’s Adrienne and Paul from BH. All the divorces and Russell’s suicide. Bravo is doing a social experiment and I think by now we are seeing the results.

        • klmh says:

          Ooo, that Adrienne. What a horrible thing she did to her husband! Of all the crap from all the shows, her accusations about Paul are on the top 5 in the worst list. What a nasty piece of work she is.
          I guess we just cant turn away from the carnage brought to us by Bravo TV. I at times feel that Im in the audience watching the Hunger Games, cheering from my chair, for the underdog.

          • Nancy says:

            I wonder what started all of this? Adrienne is obviously pissed off so maybe it was
            Paul that had the affair? To be honest I wouldn’t blame him if he did as she’s so cold to him. I hope he finds someone nice and treats him with respect. He won’t have any trouble finding women here in Beverly Hills.

            • klmh says:

              I think Adrienne is just a nasty entitled woman. She is probably the most competitive of all the HWs and doesn’t want to lose. This is a competition for her and she will do whatever she feels will give her the win. But to accuse her husband of abuse is beyond hateful, imo. I have always had that feeling about her, and have always liked Paul. I bet you’re right. He will find a nicer person to be with. Good for him.

              • Nancy says:

                I think Adrienne needed a sister growing up. That family is intense. I wonder what he saw in her as it’s a complete mystery to me.

                • Called A Princess... says:

                  I think Addy was always a challenge for Paul. A conquest. She was nasty to him when they first met. It was talked about on the show. I guess it never got any better? IMO.

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    I like him. I hope he’s not really a creep or something. I find these people are always making me eat my words. Not you people, the RH people.

    • Powell says:

      Obsessed “I need a damn xanax and the reunion hasn’t even aired yet.”. LOL. I hear you.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Yes Obsessed, this season is making me look at myself and the time I spend on these people. No big decisions or announcements to make, but I’m looking.

  39. Powell says:

    I saw a promo pic of Atlanta and Kim Z is not in it. Is Kim out? From time to time she’s been tweeting w/people that she’s coming back. We shall see.

  40. Nancy says:

    Good afternoon all,
    I’m watching this show called “Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers” and I totally forgot that the company was called…Blackwater!!! Need I say more?

    Team Teresa!

    • MamaZ says:

      I’ve seen that movie. Very , VERY troubling.

    • VV says:

      Nancy,
      Are you a Tre Hugger? 😉

      • dch60 says:

        LOL VV… I was actually JUST thinking about tree hugging… there was a lady who said she gets great energy from hugging trees… I need energy so bad I’m desperate so I thought about doing it. Did I mention I’m desperate?

        Nancy… you’ll appreciate this. This one protect-the-bears activist in our neighborhood was arrested and had to go to court for feeding the bears. There was a big hullaballoo about it because it is a big no-no. She put food out in the woods apparently so she could get nature pics. Her defense attorneys said if hunters can put food out to bait ’em to kill ’em, why can’t she do it so she can take her pics of ’em? She won. LOVE IT!!!!

        • Nancy says:

          Did she really? I understand why it’s not a great idea to feed wild animals but it’s hard not to esp when you know they are hungry. I could open my own zoo by now.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Hunters can do that? Odd that the hullaballo even happened then.

          And hey I’m a tree hugger. lol

          • dch60 says:

            Well the hullaballoo was mostly from the hunters because they can’t stand the bear activists. But yes, hunters can do that and I think it’s awful. It is quite the dilemma, ’cause it’s really not a good thing to feed the bear but she was just doing it in the woods so she could get pics, not by her house where they would get used to people feeding them although that’s exactly what happens every garbage day. I feel bad for the bear. They wouldn’t come into neighborhoods if they had enough food in the woods. Just like the polar bear. They’ve been losing so much of their habitat… ugh, it just upsets me.

            • Nancy says:

              …But according to the republicans global warming isn’t happening. 😦

            • lovemamaearth says:

              I agree DCH. All wildlife are losing their spaces. It is sad. It’s also sad when activists protect wildlife too much and everyone suffers.

              Nancy, I agree with global change. I don’t see how anyone could logically think otherwise with all the proof.

      • dch60 says:

        OMG – I just saw you said Tre hugger… not tree hugger… I like tree hugger better and THAT is what I was talking about. That’s pretty funny though VV. You got me not that that’s difficult.

      • Nancy says:

        Hi VV,
        Teresa sure has her issues but she doesn’t deserve the gang-up.
        I think she’s a good mother and I even understand why she keeps her husband.
        We are not in her shoes so we really don’t know what’s going on in her marraige.
        Their kids sure seem to love him.

        How are you doing?

      • VV says:

        Can’t take credit for that one. It started with a tweet between a blogger and Joey Gorga as a out down. Teresa’s supporters adopted it in a positive way.

    • Powell says:

      Yeah!

  41. bea says:

    One thing that Teresa’s blog brought up, that I’ve seen others mention, is that it’s weird that Melissa called Angelo by his name when she says she didn’t know who he is and that Teresa was calling him “that bald guy”. I just rewatched the section that someone posted above and when Angelo comes to the table he says to Melissa, “hey remember me, I’m Angelo”. So it’s not at all strange that she would call him by his name, that she had just heard. That being said, I do think she knew who he was.

    Another weird thing, when Teresa gets back to the table, she vaguely tells Kathy what happened in the bathroom, “I told Melissa that bald guy had told me something about her” and Kathy says “oh, he’s just starting shit” and T says “no, he’s not starting shit, he’s just saying how he knows Melissa”. It definitely, strangely, sounds like she’s defending him. I still am not sure that she was involved in the set up, but that little scene does make me wonder.

    That being said, I hate to put to much stock in any direct sentences that either Teresa or Jac say because they are so inarticulate that I don’t think they know exactly what they are saying most of the time.

    • dch60 says:

      I thought about that Melissa saying Angelo too. You’re right, he does say it.. however, Melissa remembered REAL quickly how she bartended for him. Also, why didn’t Melissa ask Teresa how she knew him since he said “hi” to her?

      Also as to Kathy, without her knowing what he said about Melissa, why would Kathy say he was just starting shit?

      There’s a lot of whats? whys? hows? etc. etc. on everyone’s account. It is exhausting.

      • Powell says:

        Boy is it ever exhausting. We’ll never know the truth about any of it.The HWs lie, Bravo lies.

      • bea says:

        In the bathroom Teresa says “you used to work for him at a gentleman’s club, he says you danced for him” and Melissa says “I was never a dancer” and then later, “I bartended at the place”. I do think she either knew right away who he was or put it together fairly quickly in the bathroom because she is so calm throughout that scene. I think she would have been a lot more freaked out if this was a new rumor.

        The Kathy thing is weirder. What Teresa describes to Kathy is shit stirring. She says, “he told me shit about her and then he left” and Kathy says – well he’s just starting shit, if he believed what he said, he wouldn’t have run off he’s just starting shit. That’s when Teresa says, “no, he’s not starting shit, he’s just saying how he knows Melissa. It’s a really strange reaction to what Kathy is saying (which is basically what Teresa was originally saying).

        Agree with you, it’s a lot of speculation based on a couple of words. My initial read was that this was just a Bravo set up. I didn’t trust the Angelo scene (where he is talking to the woman), but now I can kind of see where Teresa’s reaction seems off.

        • mrs. peabody says:

          I didn’t take what tre was saying as off, I thought she was explaining to Kathy he was just stating a fact not trying to sitr anything up. I guess it depends on what she thought stirring shit meant, I’m wondering how did Kathy know he ran off

    • klmh says:

      Thanks for the clarification bea. No one can remember every event accurately. Im going to have to watch it again too because of a question or two I have… ugh.

      • bea says:

        Good luck going back in, I felt like I was a glutton for punishment watching those scenes again.

        • klmh says:

          Tx, I’ll need it. 🙂

          • Called A Princess... says:

            IMO. Tre almost always reacts, in an odd manner, to things. It is not a special moment. IMO. Some of the event seemed very scripted as though characters were storytelling to move the edit along faster. What a mess!

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      While it’s true Angelo did mention his name at the table, it seems like some time expired between the introduction and her going to the bathroom. Maybe Melissa is very good with names but I wouldn’t recall the name of someone who ‘casually’ and never expected to see again said hello to me an hour or so later.

      • dch60 says:

        That’s what I thought too. Does she have a good memory or a bad memory?

      • bea says:

        I could see that, but I’m also assuming she has a fairly good memory because I think she also remembered who Angelo is 8-10 years after working for him. I don’t think someone would remember a face 10 years later, but not remember a name 1 hour later.

        I used to work in retail and I assume it’s like working in a bar, you see a lot of faces and it’s hard to remember specific people. For years I would have people come up to me and I could place them at the store (it was a small boutique in a smaller community), but of course had no recolloction of their names or exactly how I knew them.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          True, unless of course some has just text messaged her that some creeper from Lookers called Angelo was going to say he knew her. Melissa definitely knew that something was up before she went into the bathroom, I also think she was told to go the bathroom because they were going to film the scene there. Production would to have to clear the bathroom before hand. I also think Teresa was told to go in to and ask about Angelo which is why she gave them that look. I think she knew she was suspecting that she was being set up to be the bad guy or at minim this would all blow up and cause a casino. I don’t think Teresa is above making trouble, I just don’t think she would do it if there was nothing in it for her…and really…what would Teresa gain by this?

  42. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Jac really doesn’t know when a friendship has run its course. She told Teresa over and over again that she was done with her but she keeps going back for more.
    She says Teresa didn’t share her enough with her but here she is sharing everything Teresa told her with the world. Maybe Teresa didn’t really trust Jac enough to share her private troubles with. Maybe Teresa knew Jac was not a very trustworthy friend. I mean look, Teresa told Jac she wanted her to be mean to Melissa (very immature I know) and Jac couldn’t wait to throw that back at her. Teresa shared with Jac the rumors she heard about Melissa being a stripper and Jac blabbed about that-what else has Jac repeated? Who knows?
    When the shit hit the fan at the fashion show, Jac didn’t even bat an eye when she said Teresa was responsible for the set-up. She never even asked Teresa what was going on-she ran to Joe and Melissa and started running her mouth-like she was happy all this shit was going down.
    Why she cant let this go is a mystery to me. To hear her talk Teresa was never a good friend to her so why is she so devastated that the friendship is over? I dont understand mourning the death of a friendship you consider half assed. Jac says Teresa was only talked about her family and never asked Jac about her problems…you would think Jac would be happy to see the friendship end. I don’t get it.

    About Anderson and Teresa yelling at someone and pointing out their blubber is in fact, very immature…however saying ‘Hey you in your Christmas Pageant dress shut the f*ck up” is not the picture of maturity either.

    • MamaZ says:

      I know you’re right I just wish Teresa could learn to rise above those sorts of comments.

      • I Need A Life! says:

        Lesson learned from watching the snippet of Tre at the reunion….Remain Calm…when being attacked. Tre does come across as being a vicious bully. His point is valid. Why not walk away. Why attack like that? Ramona would have looked like a queen if she had just sipped her tea while Adiva went on and on.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          I don’t see how Teresa comes across as vicious bully…making fun of someones appearance is making fun of someones appearance, be it their cloths, height, weight ect. but I do agree that the whole exchange was childish and that if Teresa didn’t respond in kind, there only would have been one person looking like school girl.

      • ladyballs says:

        tre’s inability to rise above is the root of her problem.

        tre sees conflict where there is none and then goes from 0 to 100 in a second. if she is confronted she loses her mind. for example, the reunion show when she shoved andy. when danielle provoked her by asking if tre acknowledged her nephew, tre could have remained seated and said “of course.” but she didn’t and we saw caroline trying to help her by reasoning with her and trying, in vain, to calm her down.

        i think the people around her are sick of dealing with her drama.

        • I Need A Life! says:

          ..And she turned the table over. I know what she suffers from. “Italian temperitis.” It afflicts Italians from the Naples region especially hard. I’ll never forget being a little girl and watching my dad pick up a table top radio and just whip it down the basement stairs. Something my mom said…who remembers. My brothers and I sat at the kitchen table with forks in mid-air. Priceless. This was NOT a man who abused a fly, yet his Italian temper would get the best of him.

          • I Need A Life! says:

            ..and the next evening he came home with a new radio and apologized to us. I think of that every time I watch Tre flip that table over.

          • ladyballs says:

            and you’ll always remember that, too, i’m sure! hahhah

            but they are all italian, except for jaq…

            • Called A Princess... says:

              I am sorry but it is all good and well for us to tell Teresa how to deal with the two seasons of hazing from the Manzo/Laurita mob. I am not sure how much of the poop I would be willing to take. This crew knows how to push buttons, and there are more then two against one. I will just call this “Game Face for Bullies.” As long as Tre does not threaten to kill someone she is good with me. JMHO.

        • dch60 says:

          But I don’t think this is a no conflict situation. Obviously she was being attacked from all sides at the reunion. Also, when she had pushed Andy was her ah ha moment that Danielle was being fed information from Melissa. After seeing that moment with Teresa knowing now why she reacted that way, it was heart breaking to me.

          I’m not saying it’s okay to go off the rails and that she wouldn’t have been better staying calm. But once again, people are expecting that from Teresa when the others have been acting quite the opposite. I think, over all, Teresa has handled the situation well… off television anyway.

    • melthehound says:

      Jac doesn’t know what friendship is.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        I still say that Andy touched Tre first. Do not get in the middle of a cat fight, of his own design, if he does not want to get bit. There is so much transference of responsibility on Bravo. Andy and Bravo are just as much a part of the conflict as the characters in the show. By injecting himself into the drama and WWHL’s upside down polls, he put himself right in the middle of the conflicted. What grown man gets in the fight with grown women. Andy does and he seems to be proud of it. And Anderson Cooper does not seems to understand how to stay out of the mix either. Are these two people bored? Crazy? Both? JMHO.

        • melthehound says:

          I don’t know what your comment has to do with mine CAP but I think they, Andy and Anderson are both crazy and bored. I remember the Teresa v Andy event the same way you do. Don’t get in front of a charging bull if you don’t want to get tossed aside.

  43. BuffaLOVE says:

    You know I really wish Teresa’s PR team would have said go into the reunion and say this…Let me be honest because for the past couple seasons I have not been completely honest but Melissa and I were never really in a great place, we never fully got along and we have always been competitive (it seems that way). And when I got on the show that only made things worse. She wasnt happy that she wasnt on the show and then she did everything she could to get on the show, which included contacting Danielle and feeding her information about our fights. This was something that Jac was very aware of as one of my best friends. My mistake was not being honest when she first came on. I shouldnt have went for blood but I should have been honest about the fact that I wasnt happy she was on the show becasue we DONT get along. Thats where my beef with Jac and Melissa is. Jac knew exactly how T felt and Mel acts like she is all innoccent and I just want to get along with her but I really feel like Mel loves it and loves knowing that she has Joe know and T has nothing to do with him.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      BuffaLOVE…LOVE LOVE-this is perfect!!!!

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Interesting comments and points. Welcome if you’re new.

      • BuffaLOVE says:

        Thanks! Not new, I’ve been here since the very beginning. I don’t comment too often you folks are far wittier than me 😉 Missing Lynn – RIP but glad she brought us all together 🙂

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I miss Lynn too. Glad you shared your thoughts. 🙂

        • dch60 says:

          I thought your comment was great. I don’t consider myself very witty either… I have a hard time explaining how I feel, my thoughts don’t always transfer the way I’d like when I write them out. I post and comment anyway ’cause I need to vent somewhere… lol Please, join in more often. I love reading all the different views on everything. Maybe you should become a PR rep… Teresa would do great if she had you coaching her.

    • PJ says:

      Why don’t we all wait and watch what goes down before deciding Teresa didn’t act appropriately at the reunion.

  44. MamaZ says:

    klmh – I read your comment upthread abot Kathy being the only one who can control herself and maybe that’s why we think she’s boring. I think you make an excellent point.

    I was thinking something similar yesterday regarding Carole and Heather. They are behaving civilized, not choosing sides and the viewers are annoyed! It’s like we’ve been conditioned to expect, even demand the very thing we say want less of!

    I’m as guilty of this as anyone else since I have been calling Kathy boring all along.

    • Powell says:

      I think Kathy us boring because she is boring and she’s Caroline’s puppet. I like that Carol tries to be neutral. I don’t like when Carol gets wishy washy. Be neutral or pick a side.

    • klmh says:

      I know, isn’t that a hoot! I don’t think Bravo will ever call us, do you?

    • bea says:

      This is a really good point. I think we are conditioned to pick among the ones who are acting crazy and housewives get the boot when they are too normal/boring.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I don’t see Kathy boring because she can control her temper; I don’t see her temper as necessary controlled. Just because you say something in a calm and rational sounding voice doesn’t mean that there isn’t anger in your words. In her talking heads, that are shot after the fact wear raw emotion should be subsided, she has said some pretty mean stuff about Teresa.

      Kathy is boring because on the surface she seems to ride the fence, even though between the surface their is passive aggressive intent. I would have found her more interesting if she said “Yeah, I had that conversation with Teresa about Caroline because I wnated to see if I could wind her up” than the St. Kathy of Canolli ‘ I am trying to be the peace maker act’. Just like how people loved it when Sonja admitted that she purposely cut Cindy Barslop out of the pictures in Morocco.

      But mostly, I think the reason people don’t want Kathy around is because her husband is a CREEP. In 40 years, I imagine he will be like Aviva D’s father.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        aBSOLUTELY, ITA with your comment about Katfish, Rabble. But, you’re giving the dude 40 years? uh – uh …I say 15.

      • dch60 says:

        I agree with you completely. She’s just as nasty she just makes her snide comments without screaming. I don’t see her as non controversial at all. Even so, she’s still a bit boring and her husband I could do without ever seeing or hearing again.

  45. WindyCityWondering says:

    It’s over and we are done means something entirely different in the world of RHNJ.
    IMO, in their world, it means the gloves are off and now I will ruin you. Both Wacky Jacky and Carowhine told Teresa they were done and yet they just can’t stop. Seriously, the season is over, they haven’t seen each other until the reunion, the cameras are gone and they just can’t stop! Now they look like hateful, spiteful, immature fools – not a good image for anyone wanting to start businesses, impress investors or be anyone spokesperson. They followed their ice out strategy only this time I really believe they iced themselves out.

    • Nancy says:

      Jealousy is a powerful emotion and can take people down a very dark hole.

    • Powell says:

      I think NJ isn’t done w/T cause they want to keep their hats hooked on Ts star. JZ was the same on NY. She was done w/B then when it was known B was getting her own show, was getting married & having a baby JZ wanted to talk to B on scary island, talk to B at lunch in NY cause she wanted to ang her hat to Bs rising star.

  46. Nancy says:

    I hope Camille isn’t watching Anderson right now. Her ex is on showing pictures of his new baby
    and telling everyone how in love he is.

  47. stellastars21 says:

    PJ: I’m sorry that happened to your friend. I’m glad she was cleared since she wasn’t involved.

    VV:thanks for answering my ? Yesterday. After your answer I realized I never saw the scenes for the next episode. I guess I was over it after the show lol.

  48. stellastars21 says:

    DETOX: Didn’t get to reply yesterday. I really hope you are able to take care of everything without it bringing you more health concerns. I hope you took the ladies advise and went back to the doctor for X-rays in case anything else is causing you pain and discomfort. I also hope your parents will be ok through all of this. Take care please.

  49. ladyballs says:

    is the rhonj a show that employs contrived, creative editing or is it a show where everything we see is a true representation of what really happened?

    cause i see comments to suggest both are the case. but how can that be?

    • Powell says:

      Contrived creative storylines and editing. This season has really shown me how not real this franchise is.

    • klmh says:

      Its one of those sweet mysteries of life lb, or not so sweet in this case.
      For me, its the knowledge that this family hasn’t seen one another for the past year, and none of the HWs have interacted with T., except for Kathy and her texts. This we know to be a fact. Something happened but the rest Im afraid will remain a mystery.

      Oh, just thought of this. In Teresa’s blog she said “you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t”. That is how I knew she did’t write her blog. It would be fun to see what her meaning would be if she did write the sentence. hehe

      • PJ says:

        I honestly don’t see how that expression shows she didn’t write her blog. But if she doesn’t write it herself I have no problem with it. I just wish Jac would get someone to write hers.

        • klmh says:

          That’s ok. We don’t have to agree. 🙂 You just give her more credit than I do, and I would prefer an honest opinion from the author rather than a ghost writer. You can sift thru the rants in a personally written blog. When written by another person, it is irrelevant. imo

          • PJ says:

            I’m not giving her any credit it’s just a very simple expression that anyone would know.
            I don’t think that expression is any proof that she doesn’t write her own blogs. I’ve written that about her so if you really think she is so simple minded she doesn’t know a common expression then maybe she read it on this blog and copied it. I prefer not to sift through rants though because crazy people hold no charm for me. I think Teresa’s blog is relevant no matter if she wrote it or not because it is expressing her ideas unless you are suggesting that some ghost writer is expressing their own ideas.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          bwahahaha!!

          • Called A Princess... says:

            I really do not want to read a blog written by Teresa. That would be painful. I guess political speeches are irrelevant then too? We were mad when the Atlanta crew did not always do a weekly, or on time. I am glad that Teresa figured out a way to get the product out on time. JMHO.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              OMG — -the is so annoying when the ATL ladies just blow it off. I hadn’t thought about speechwriters…how is that different?

              • Lady Chatterley says:

                Actually, yeah – I don’t put a lot of stock in political messaging. I find what they caught saying when they think the mics are off more interesting.

            • klmh says:

              Hopefully the political speeches are read and understood by the candidate that has a command of the english language and understands what was written for them. I do fact check though.

              • PJ says:

                Not having a command of the English language does not make a person simple minded. Teresa has a problem expressing herself out loud that does not mean she doesn’t understand her own blogs.

                • klmh says:

                  Good for you PJ. Enjoy her blogs. Winkeydinkey.

                  • PJ says:

                    I don’t appreciate you insulting me. Thank you.

                  • PJ says:

                    I wouldn’t have felt that it was insulting if you had left the winkeydinkey off. With that included I felt it was insulting my intelligence, although I could be wrong perhaps it wasn’t meant that way. I do have an excellent command of the language and its subtle nuances. If I had a speech writer I would most likely understand everything he wrote for me that is providing he also had an excellent command of the language. If he spoke another language I might not understand because I didn’t go to Vassar and I only speak one language. However if he spoke English and he could use spell check I would definitely understand unless he said ‘dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t’ that expression is way above my head, I actually think you have to go to Vassar to understand it.

                    • klmh says:

                      I thought that might be what you had problems with. There was a period between my sentence and Teresa’s word. I thought it was funny. Still do. It had nothing to do with you or your decision to believe or read or anything concerning Teresa.
                      She comes up with some interesting words, and to date that’s the best one…

                • dch60 says:

                  ITA… She’s not quick on her feet. I’m sure many times after the fact, she thinks of things she SHOULD have said (it happens to me too). There are times when Teresa says something that make me realize she’s not as stupid as she comes across.

              • Called A Princess... says:

                So Teresa is hiring the same sort of help but she is not employed to serve the voting public. We do not have a need to trust her message in the same manner, but the political speech writer is employed to engender the trust of a set demographics, regardless of whether the message is based on truth or lies, or if some candidate, can possibly deliver on their promises. JMHO.

                • PJ says:

                  Apparently according to the criteria of some people that’s OK as long as he has a command of the language and understands what his speech writer wrote for him.

                  • rabblerouser2010R says:

                    It would benefit Teresa to know what her ‘speech writer’ says since apparently she was quizzed on it at the reunion.
                    Teresa has always denied having help or someone write her blogs but I have to say I don’t beleive her. I actually remember back in the bankruptcy days how someone found an article written by a bankruptcy lawyer that Teresa lifted word verbatim without credit. Someone contacted that lawyer to let them know and they knew Teresa so they were going to let it slide even though she did not have permission or ask prior to use it .

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      ok no, i didn’t realize that she hadn’t owned up to the writing “help” – – -why not just admit it er eggmit it?

                    • PJ says:

                      We haven’t seen the reunion yet. I’m willing to wait to see what really happens. If Lauren really quizzed Teresa then I think that’s stupid on Lauren’s part considering she doesn’t know what a continent is.

                    • PJ says:

                      The thing is I’m not saying she does or she doesn’t have a blog writer. Just like the rest who comment here that is really just speculation on our part since we don’t have any confirmation. All I said was I don’t think a very simple expression that anyone might use proves she has a blog writer. Perhaps if she had explained the theory of relativity on her blog I would have agreed, but she didn’t. Furthermore I really don’t care one way or another. I like Teresa’s blogs and if she writes them or not they are expressing her thoughts on what happened and I want to know. I much prefer to read Teresa’s blogs to crazy people’s rambling, obsessed, blogs.

    • lizzle says:

      Great question!

      Here’s what is roaming around in my mind: Contrived drama can show us true animosity. So we are seeing a true representation of the animosity between the Teresa and the rest of the cast… but not necessarily the true story behind it.

      Unfortunately, the producers at Bravo failed to do a good job at showing its audience a seamless version of real non-reality… or maybe it is unreal-reality… when editing RHONJ. I hope they see it was an epic fail.

      Lynn always said that the first season is the best. I think it is because it is the most real… before endorsement deals or favorites are brought to the surface by the fans. Why does Adrienne dislike Lisa so much? We didn’t see this animosity in the 1st season. Personally, I think it is pure jealousy. But of course, there will be another story when RHOBH airs. Jealousy is too simple.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Absolutely, Lizzle. I know it sounds too simple. But JEALOUSY is the answer. That’s the ugly beginning and then it branches off into something else and then those branches morph into pointing fingers and then… I should stop. My point? It begins with jealousy.

        • lizzle says:

          You got me thinking LL… jealousy does morph and branches off into pointing fingers at something that isn’t the simple thing we know it to be… so maybe I am being too hard on the producers. Maybe the producers don’t even know where the animosity lies and have a hard time pin pointing what was goes on between these ladies ladies of reality tv. Lynn was onto something when she said the first season is the best and she knew… she has been there from the beginning. There should be a first season and maybe even a second season… then find your stars and put them on their own shows… like Bethenny. There are enough cities in the world to do this without repeating seasons of the same franchise for 7 years (like Orange Co).

      • Nancy says:

        I think it’s 100% due to jealousy.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          And even Andy is green. He can’t stop it, with the cast members because he has the same standard of haterville going off in his own brain. IMO.

  50. Powell says:

    DWTS. Why did Pam Anderson agree to do all stars if she wasn’t going to give it her all? Sex appeal could only get her so far. Only to the 1st elimination.

  51. Powell says:

    Lea Black just tweeted she’s in Cat’s in-box full 2.

  52. Nancy says:

    For all you dog lovers check out this story that is trending on Yahoo right now.
    It’s about a 19 yr old dog that his human brings into Lake Superior to reduce his pain
    due to arthritis. There’s a great story behind it as well.

  53. cocfarm says:

    Long day today, but saw this early in the am and the husband and I have mimicked it all day long. Makes me laugh so hard. It kind of sums up how I felt after aviva went off on Ramona.
    http://www.wgntv.com/videogallery/72541479/News/The-woman-like-screaming-goat

  54. Kats2 says:

    Weird Moment – having dinner this evening at the corner of Chestnut and Rush in Chicago and Countess Luann walked by. So odd and made me think of Lynn.

  55. I Need A Life! says:

    There’s a rumor that Anderson Cooper will have Tre on his show to apologize for being rude. Sounds to me that he realizes what makes ratings go up. She should stay home.

  56. Katie (aka kats2) says:

    No not with Jacque and I didn’t trip her :0 you’re so funny. She is really very pretty. I just looked enough to confirm it was her and kept eating my salmon and green beans. More interested in the food and wine and I would never treat her like she was special.

    • I Need A Life! says:

      I read that she was in town to tape the Steve Harvey show. It’s a beautiful night in Chicago. Hope she’s loving our town.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I’ll bet she is so pretty irl.

      • cusi77 says:

        O.M.G.Kats! You were having dinner a few blocks from my apartment! Are you now living in Chicago?

        Beautiful night in Windy City indeed, INL!

        Thanks BB, NMD and Boston for the Blogs!

  57. Powell says:

    Well I’ll say Roxy ran her mouth just a little bit to much.

  58. VV says:

    Somebody Tweeted Andy:
    #Rhonj REMEMBER @andersoncooper vacationed w/ @BravoAndy plus both HATE juicyJoe 4 his gay slurrs #ItsAllaSetUp #Revenge @Teresa_Giudice

    Andy replied:
    @stark3923 @andersoncooper @Teresa_Giudice I think you should use your conspiracy theories to find out who shot JFK!

    Somebody tweeted Andy:
    @BravoAndy no coments about TG twts? Cmon Andy don’t disappoint ur fans. 🙂

    Andy replied:
    @pamsept22 all the conspiracy theories are wrong and way off. I am crazy abt her we spoke today.

  59. klmh says:

    I have an item on Ebay that is a neat piece. It has two letters of the jewish alphabet on it. One is a yod, and the other a hei. Does anyone know what this is? Thanks, I’ve been trying to find this for an hour or more.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-PILGRIM-FLASK-ADORNED-WITH-STERLING-SILVER-/230855607189?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c0110395

    • klmh says:

      Sorry, this isn’t my item, I was just looking around and found this interesting piece.

    • Nancy says:

      I bet Mazel would know this. Do you have her e-mail address?

    • Orson says:

      It’s a “chai”. “Chai” is the Hebrew word for “life”. And in a different context, the Hebrew letters hay and yod are the number 18. So, the number 18 is considered to be a lucky number. Nu, so what could be luckier than not being dead? So often you’ll see Jewish women wearing Chai jewelry.

  60. Karen says:

    Has anyone of you read Ilanas’s blog? There was a blog there by Michael Mazzela.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      THERE WAS???!! is that what everyone was talking about last week or so? I thought she had more sense than THAT. She’s clearly doing it for attention.

  61. dch60 says:

    Anyone watching the X-Factor? Thoughts about Gene Simmon’s daughter?

  62. RealhouseWifeva says:

    Wait, so Anderson cooper invited Teresa back tomorrow to apologize to her after the fans reaction to the way he treated her? Wow..

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I didn’t think it was to apologize but to ask her about Jac’s twitter rant that was happening while AC was on air.

  63. dch60 says:

    There’s an article on examiner.com that quotes Kyle saying that she felt so bad for Teresa and was sad “looking at that.” Another one showing tweets “hi love” crap between Taylor and Dina. Gag.

  64. djprincessc says:

    Crazy article about Melissa and Joe…its so crazy idk if I even believe it all and I am 100% team Teresa!! lol. Please read!
    http://www.zimbio.com/Melissa+Gorga/articles/-KwLTBn9jC4/MELISSA+GORGA+Damn+Melissa+Email+Author+Email

  65. djprincessc says:

    Man I messed up, there was another article that went into soooo much detail about Melissa and Joe and their drug use and partying. Thats what I mean to post. Hopefully I can find it!

  66. VV says:

    Teresa going back to Anderson tomorrow. Here’s a tweet from Anderson Live.

    “What did you think of what @Teresa_Giudice had to say on today’s show? The #RHONJ star returns to @andersonlive tomorrow!
    Sent Sep 26, 08:57 PM
    From web”

    • RealhouseWifeva says:

      I just read that…apparently he was bombarded by angry fans who were mad at the way he treated her, so he invited her back! How crazy is that? Damage control…who knew Teresa had that much pull?

      • djprincessc says:

        I’m glad hes backtracking! He totally reminded me of when Katie Couric interviewed Sarah Palin and you could see the hate in her eyes. If you hate someone THAT much that you can’t hide it don’t have them on your show, we can all have different views without being animals about it. But Anderson is a good example of how the media is, their thinking is the ONLY way and we live in THEIR world. No wonder he and Andy Cohen are friends their delusional and outta touch with reality. He does owe Teresa a HUGE apology she was his guest and he was beyond disrespectful,

        • Nancy says:

          I didn’t see the show. What happened?

        • dch60 says:

          The short clip I saw I thought she handled herself very well. She didn’t get defensive at all. I’ll have to watch the entire segment to really judge fairly.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I’m sure his new cruise chum advised him to have her back. I doubt if Anderson wants to apologize, he wants a repeat of the ratings he got today IMO. That’s why Andy has Tre on WHat the Hell Just Happened all the time, for ratings. that’s why the mags put her on the covers,…her face sells magazines. Let’s squeeze every drop we can from the teat of this cash cow. wait…

        • PJ says:

          He wasn’t nice, and him saying that he gets attacked all the time was really stupid. He doesn’t get attacked like Teresa does at the reunion. I personally am really turned off when talk show hosts have guests that they are openly hostile to. Then have someone that you can be civil to as a guest.

        • Putchka says:

          OK, I’m a nice blogger. djp, the interview with Palin? Are you kidding? An idiot that almost got to run our country? As apposed to an another idiot reality star? What the Hey are your talking about? I’m not nasty, But you got me a bit PO’D darling. P.S. How old are you?

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I don’t know why you are so pissed off or offended, all she said is that sometimes when an interviewer really does have contempt for someone they are interviewing it shows. It wasn’t her personal endorsement of SP, it was an example. I also think asking her age was unnecessary, it seemed like a dig.

            Personally, I am starting to get really irritated by the polarization of this board when it comes to politics. It’s sometimes difficult enough to get past RHONJ discussions, I don’t see why people need to add fuel to the fire.

            • djprincessc says:

              Thank you sooooo much. I appreciate your kind words. Its not about politics in the slightest, I agree with everything you wrote rabble! And even if I did LOVE Sarah Palin (which I don’t) who cares? This blog is supposed to be fun.

          • djprincessc says:

            Totally serious. AND I am NOT a fan of Sarah Palin in the slightest, although my reasons for not liking her are different than most peoples. I was comparing the fact that obviously Katie Couric can’t stand her and it showed in the interview, just like today with Anderson Cooper. If you invite someone into your home are you going to treat them like shit? No, so if you have a guest on your show at least be respectful. I don’t care if I got you PO’D “darling” you’re missing my point. Its not about politics its about manners. And I’m 27 how old are you?? This blog is full of wonderful people, but then there are those 2% that are uptight and have to ruin it. My god!

          • mrs. peabody says:

            you may not be nasty but you’re mean. your tone is uncalled for, now apologize to the nice lady or go to your room!

  67. Putchka says:

    I watched Anderson today (swoon). Teresa was her usual non verbal self. I truly believe this woman has an I,Q. bordering on “mentally disabled”.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Putchka – that’s harsh…but funny (sorry!!!) and it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it…but do you also think she masterminded the downfall of the Manzo’s, Laurita’s and Gorga’s? Is someone with the type of IQ you’re describing capable of both? Being “mentally disabled” as you say AND the person behind the destruction of all of her castmates?

      • Putchka says:

        Hey LL, first, love you girl. No Teresa didn’t “mastermind” anything. I think she got screwed over in this whole brou-ha-ha. But she does have a problem with anger, as does her brother. I point to her apperance on Celebrity Appretince when she didn’t say a word about anyone because she was out matched by everyone. When she’s around friends and family, she acts much differently. I still think she’s a bit challenged in the mental/and/or intelllectual department but hey, my father was Einstein! But don’t you just love Gia?

        • LaineyLainey says:

          HI Putchka: Love you too! I also thought something was off with Tre and maybe everyone else (her castmates) did too, which is why her emergence as the star has actually startled a lot of people. I was in complete wonderment when she was on Celebrity Apprentice, she kept quiet and it worked in her favor. So she has a different kind of smarts. What do you call it? Honestly asking, cause I don’t know. She starts out as the goofy sidekick and decides to take the bull by the horns and MAKE the finale something to talk about (albeit in a violent manner) Due to Her caterwaul – she coined the phrase “Prostitution Whore” which I’d never heard combined in that way but that moment was hers. She appears on Celebrity Apprentice, and as we both have agreed, she’s no genius by any stretch…but she’s smart enough to know when to keep her mouth shut and she makes it to the TOP FOUR on Celebrity Apprentice. Is this an act? Is she really a secret genius? How does this person who grunts and squeals in place of words…how can she be so successful. No one has been destroyed, so I exaggerated a lil bit…but she has been accused of going after her brother’s family, the Manzo’s, Laurita’s and Wakile’s families. Ok, not DESTROYING them but she’s enemy number one of this whole group of peoples. Oh crap I just lost my train of thought. The Simpsons still makes me laugh.

          • Putchka says:

            No LL teresa is not a “secret genius”, but she’s doing something right. I don’t know, but telling my awful husband to stick his finger up my butt on national TV is not my idea of a genius. Whatever, Anderson called her on her “immaturity”?. She didn’t know what that meant. Surprised? Anyway, he doesn’t owe an apology, she’s a casino and doesn’t know it. Love talking to you Lainey!

      • The Tin Man says:

        I must be slipping, Lainey, or having a whole bunch of senior moments like in a row or something. You mean to tell me all Teresa’s castmates have meet with destruction and I missed it? Well, if they’ve destructed for sure Teresa didn’t mastermind it, she’s too dumb, but boy oh boy is she a skilled liar, something for which a high IQ is not required.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          LOL, Yes my little friend…it happened while you were sleeping. Oh and you now have a heart. We Transplanted it from Atlanta’s Marlo. Make it rain!!!!

          I knew I was reaching and exaggerating like nobody’s business and I’d hoped and wished that maybe I’d fallen asleep and had a good dream and I was able to get away with it. But alas, it is not to be. You talk crap on this board and you get called out. Imagine that? Can’t get away with Jack on this board!!! LOLOL!!!

          • The Tin Man says:

            Rain make mes rusty dear, and I don’t believe Marlo had a heart to begin with either. Be care of those dreams too; I know a little girl from Kansas who got so caught up in a dream that it literally became her life and all she was ever famous for was, alas, nothing but a dream. Hyperbole is okay though, just playin with ya.

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        Downfall of the Manzo’s Laurita’s and Gorga’s?????? Destruction of all her cast mates??? When did this happen..must have missed some episodes 😛

    • klmh says:

      Here is an article about it. Apparently the writer didn’t feel it was a tough interview but others in the audience did. Teresa was apparently mad as well:

      http://www.realitytea.com/2012/09/26/live-blogging-from-anderson-live-mary-spills-the-tea-on-teresa-giudice-behind-the-scenes-plus-photos/

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        From what I saw, I didn’t think it was as brutal as some made it out to be on it’s own merit. I think the objection comes how the other HW were treated in comparison. IMO, if Teresa survived the reunion with the gang of hyenas and “I will cut your fn tongue out and eat it with fava beans” Rosie, the AC interview was a breeze.

        • djprincessc says:

          I thought he was really disrespectful, but you are right Rabble, its more about that she’s the only HW thats treated that way. No other HW gets those type of questions, if they did there would be no outrage from the fans bc it would be equal. And Teresa isn’t a great speaker at all. I don’t think she’s stupid but she cannot express herself or get her point across at all.

  68. Nancy says:

    Great news to all our football fans. The college Zebra’s got their pink slips tonight.
    The real Ref’s are coming back! Go 49ers!

  69. The Tin Man says:

    Did Caroline really admit she had a tummy tuck? I missed it, another senior moment I guess. But why would she need a tummy tuck? Hasn’t she always been tiny? Didn’t she say she lost all that weight with “portion control”? She admitted that she’s a big fat liar? (And that comment doesn’t have anything to do with her weight.) I wish Anderson Cooper could get to the bottom of this scandal and give Caroline the same treatment Teresa got today, which I loved by the way, but Caroline needs to be called on her crap too!

    • I Need A Life! says:

      The clip from the reunion shows Tre yelling at Caroline, “All I see is rows of blubber.” (That’s harsh. I don’t care what anyone says.) Caroline responds, “I didn’t have botox, filler….” And then, I don’t remember if Tre says it or if Caroline says it, but someone says it, and Caroline admits that a few years ago she had a tummy tuck.

    • BB says:

      I got PO’d today when Anderson told Teresa he gets insulted all the time and doesn’t insult back. That’s because he’s not stuck for 12 hours in a room full of people ganging up on him and hurling insults at him from 10 feet away. I’d like to see him sit there and quietly take it. Maybe Andy could arrange it as a social experiment since that seems to turn him on. Oh, wait, Andy only likes to see women do that to each other. I’d like for Anderson to have Caroline, Lauren and Rosie on his show and subject them to the same treatment.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        That’s not even true, I have seen AC insult people back on twitter….granted he is much wittier than Teresa.

    • klmh says:

      Tin Man, a tummy tuck is what is probably needed to remove excess skin, from weight reduction. It isn’t bariatric surgery, stomach stapling or lapband surgery. She lost the weight herself, but when you get older your skin looses elasticity.

      • The Tin Man says:

        Thank you for the information. I will now have to rethink this entire situation and perhaps retract my sarcasm, if that’s possible. But for sure, Anderson’s interrogation techniques will not be required. I’ve only just realized I have no elasticity either and therefore need the same procedure.

        • klmh says:

          Me too. I’ve lost 20 and need to lose more, but its sitting there, and not bouncing back as it did in my younger roller coaster weight days. The incisions are BIG too, as you could imagine.

  70. Putchka says:

    I agree with you Tin Man but me’thinks Mr.Cooper has much more on his plate than housewives bullsh**t.

    • The Tin Man says:

      Yep, I’m sure he does. I was being facetious, you know. But he did make time for Teresa’s bull, so there’s that.

    • BB says:

      And what would that be? His CNN gig? I’d have much more respect for him if he’d have just stuck to that and stopped hanging around with Andy Cohen and Kathy Griffin. I believe his talk show is tanking and that’s a good thing.

  71. Nancy says:

    I can’t believe the talent on The X-Factor tonight. WOW!
    Even Simon is impressed and that doesn’t doesn’t happen very often.

  72. Winston says:

    If you get a chance, and are interested, go read famewhorgas latest update. It says that Jac and Kathy are out. It also says that the producers kept Jac from attending the reunion (Season 3) because she could not be calmed down (acting like a crazed lunatic.) That to me is far more believable than she voluntarily stayed away. It appears Bravo knows she is nuts, too!

  73. mrs. peabody says:

    Went to Tre’s website for the first time and she has a really good video of Gia and one of her dance team members performing in a video. They are really good and Gia is a 100% better dancer than Melissa the snake if.

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