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Housewives News by NoMoreDrama

Peter Thomas Goes on a Twitter Rant against Kandi Burruss /  Jill Zarin on WWHL / Sonja’s Intern for a Day / Aviva Named Most Inspirational / Teresa sets the Record Straight

Peter Thomas – husband of Cynthia Bailey – went on a twitter tear last night against Kandi Burruss.  It looks like Peter and Apollo were on Kandi’s show – but she didn’t post it online, and he was mad.  Reading back through the tweets – it appears as though Apollo may have shared too much and Phaedra wasn’t happy – so Kandi is keeping this show “private”.

Kandi Burruss had a few choice words for Peter.

Backing up a few days …  seems like Apollo Nida – husband of Kandi’s castmate Phaedra Parks, shared a little too much on Kandi’s show – and was unapologetic about it.

Kandi explained to listeners (after this show) why it wasn’t being streamed online.

Looks like Peter will be on Kandi’s  show (Kandi Koated Nights) again on Wednesday.  Kandi has tweeted that she’s not sure if she’s ready for it.  Too bad none of this will make the real show.  Real Housewives of Atlanta airs in early November.


Jill Zarin is back on Bravo in an interview with Watch What Happens Live Host Andy Cohen.   The redhead who was fired from Real Housewives of New York taped an interview with Andy Cohen yesterday that will air next Monday.  Not known to keep anything a secret, Jill (presumably) leaked the news a week ago through her friend Rob Shuter – but played coy with viewers – retweeting his announcement and asking “where did you hear that?”  Things must have gone well with Andy, because Jill took to twitter to start a social media campaign to get back on the show.  Here’s a few of her gems:

Fan: @Jillzarin wish Andy would put u back oh rhony. Miss you.”

JZ: “See if @bravoandy asks me next week!”

And to Andy …  “Did you really get 1700 questions to ask me on Facebook @bravoandy? Are you doing a poll next week ?hah!”

Fan: “Would like to see u and Alex back in the mix again.”

JZ: “What about @simonvankempen?”

Fan: “Is next weeks #WWHL with you not live? Since they showed clips already?!”

JZ: “Filmed it today.”

Jill also spoke out in the media as she begins her comeback attempt.  Her interview with MyDailyNews includes her plans for the future – and yes they do include getting back on TV.  Here’s an excerpt from the article.   “It’s not like the 48-year-old wife of fabric industry big shot Bobby Zarin has been sitting still.  Just last week she and her hubby were in Paris, where they’re considering buying a $13 million house with a view of the Eiffel Tower.  But where Zarin really wants to be — and where she says her “more than a million social media followers” want her to be — is back on TV, starring in a show of her own.  Zarin says other networks came calling after “Real Housewives” divorced her, but she “wasn’t ready” then.  “I was licking my wounds and needed to retreat,” Zarin says. “It really affected me, but now I’m strong and ready to go back and share my life with America.”  Read more:

More than a million social media followers?  I can just hear it now.  Bawbee – buy me more twitter followers – Andy called ….

I’m starting to get a bad feeling about this.  Please tell me I’m getting worried about nothing.  NMD


Sonja Morgan may not have investors for her toaster oven, but she has interns working on it.  A writer at the WSJonlinewas Sonja’s intern for a day, and wrote a humorous piece on it.  One great quote:  “We pressed Ms. Morgan to give us some assignments. We were not at her townhouse to chat; we really came there to work. “I was thinking about it before you came,” she said. “It’s a hard one, because you’re a writer. I would want you to look at my website because there are typos everywhere. I would also give you some business cards to transfer to the computer, because you would probably be good at that.”

Ms. Morgan said the more pressing thing was probably the website, so she grabbed a laptop and we asked her to pull up her mission statement. We explained that her website should probably be more grammatically correct as well as organized differently, and feature photos from previous events that she’d put together under her “Sonja in the City” label.”  Read Full Text Here


Wetpaint published a report that Kim Zolciak‘s new house was complete.  Kim corrected them on twitter, saying: “No its not!!!!! I wish!!! Work in progress!”


Aviva Drescher was named one of the top inspiration people of New York by Gladys Magazine – and also graced their cover.  Aviva was honored for her philanthropic work such as that highlighted on the Real Housewives of New York such as One Step Ahead.  Congratulations Aviva!


Teresa Giudice takes to her blog to set the record straight for her niece Antonia.  Here is Teresa’s message to Antonia: “I adore you Antonia, and I adore Gino and Joey. You are my blood. You are Gorgas. You are beautiful inside and out! Zia Teresa will always, ALWAYS love you and always be here for you with open arms. My children love you as well. They always treated you like their own sister growing up since you didn’t have any. I hope one day you’ll be able to hang out again.”


Tweets from Last Night as the RHONY Reunion Aired

Andy Cohen “Taping this reunion two weeks after Jersey was actually a relief! We had a lot of real dialogue & laughs amidst drama & tension! #RHONY

Carole Radziwill:  “Don’t I say what you guys are thinking? I mean its not brain surgery. 4 the most part its funny comments about seemingly over the top drama.”


Real Housewives of New York Reunion, Part 1 of 2 by BB

The reunion took place in the Museum of American Finance, lower Manhattan, NY.  The set was lovely and all the housewives were looking lovely.  One thing I can say about the New York housewives is they are the most natural looking group of all of the housewives.  They all dressed age-appropriately (although Heather is showing some serious cleavage) for the most part.  None of them overdid the makeup.  None of them have seriously changed their faces with plastic surgery.  I don’t think Andy had to wipe off any tanning spray or glitter make-up like he did after the New Jersey reunion.

Couch order:  To Andy’s right are Aviva, Carole and Heather and to Andy’s left are Ramona, Sonja and Luann.  Andy asks Luann, Sonja and Ramona what they thought about half the cast being replaced after last season.  Ramona’s reaction was shock; Sonja’s reaction was worry; and Luann was sad to see the girls go, probably because her whole team got fired except for her.  At least Ramona and Sonja still had each other.

Here we go and this is in no particular order, but everything is covered.

Ramona:  Ramona is wearing a pretty dress of deep blue (almost purple) and it’s the perfect length.  She can sit comfortably without having to worry about people seeing too much.  I prefer Ramona with shorter hair than it was last night.  When Andy asks Ramona if she has given Aviva her much sought-after apology, she at first asks him to repeat the question like she didn’t understand what he was asking, then answers that she apologized to Aviva twice already and she can’t apologize to her anymore.  Andy tried to resurrect the “blackmail” (Ramona insists it wasn’t blackmail) issue between Ramona and Luann, but neither women are going to go there.  They have both come to a truce and both agree they tread cautiously with each other.  Aviva, take note.  That’s how you put things behind you.

The subject of St. Barts and the “white trash” controversy arises.  Cue clips of St. Barts and the arrival of hurricane Aviva, including the discussion of Ramona, Sonja AND Luann about how the dynamics of the trip will change with Reid there.  Note Heather is not saying anything, but she is present during the “dynamic change” discussion.

Andy tells Aviva Bravo got a lot of e-mails about the Rush Limbaugh apology.  Aviva explains that she was sorry for the words that she used, but not the sentiments behind them.  It was a stupid apology referencing another stupid apology.  Ramona and Sonja point out that Rush didn’t apologize so it was a non-apology.  Carole tells Aviva she was really shocked because she thought Aviva owed them an apology and she thought Aviva believed she owed them an apology, so for Carole to see the Rush Limbaugh apology was really difficult.

A viewer asks why, if she can speak several languages, Aviva couldn’t come with a better words than “white trash” and it was repulsive how she threw her education around while she did that.  Aviva tells Ramona and Sonja that she doesn’t have a monopoly on pain and loss and her problems aren’t worse than anyone else’s and she threw that onto them and she apologizes and if they don’t find it in their hearts to accept her apology, she would understand that.

Sonja tells Aviva she has accepted her apology before and she saw where that got her more than once.  Aviva has apologized to Sonja and on the same night has said venomous things about her in her blog, in the press, on twitter, lies and making up things.  Aviva tells Sonja they have not had resolution but she’s sitting in front of her right now before the world and she is saying she is profusely sorry to her not only with words but she can bet her bottom dollar it will never happen again.
Aviva says Sonja got caught in the crossfire and turns to Ramona and says she really thought Ramona was her friend because they had vacationed together in Miami, they had spent couple time together, and when she knew she wouldn’t be able to go to St. Barts on a plane by herself, Ramona was the first one she called and confided in.  She says Ramona gave her blessing to bring Reid on the trip. Ramona tells Aviva they had agreed that they would stay in a hotel.  Aviva denies it.  Aviva says they are going to have to agree to disagree.

Ramona says the important thing is the fact that Aviva went after her and Sonja repeatedly right up through the last episode.  Ramona tells Aviva she abused her verbally so much she thought she was back in her house with her father.  Ramona says she took Aviva in and she doesn’t make friends easily.  She has a tough exterior and extended her heart and soul to Aviva and embraced her and Aviva turned on her like a viper.  Ramona tells Aviva she hurt her terribly.  Aviva tells Ramona she was trying to explain to her what led up to her terrible tirade.  Ramona tells Aviva they were nice and welcoming to them both when they arrived at St. Barts.  Aviva says she was OK until Luann mentioned they had discussed who was going to throw Reid out of the house. (She wasn’t really, she was looking for a fight even before that.)

Heather breaks in here and tells everyone she loves Luann dearly, but she thought Luann stirred the pot and Ramona said Luann threw her under the bus.  Luann tries to start explaining, but Heather tells her to let her finish.  Heather tells Aviva she was standing there during the conversation where they were discussing Reid coming and she interpreted it as a teasing banter.  Heather tells Aviva she knows she was supportive of bringing Reid down, so if she thought the women were being wrong during that discussion, she would have spoken up.

At this point Aviva says she wants to repeat that she is profusely sorry for the way she treated them.  Ramona tells Aviva she has no remorse because when the show started airing, she was still attacking them in her blogs and she only turned herself when the viewers went against her.  Ramona further tells her she wasn’t even in St. Barts the first night and she wrote in her blog how disgusting they were.  Andy points out that Aviva wrote in her blog that Reid was not interested in being around this group of pent up cougars and that the ladies knew very well Reid would not be spending any time with them, he would rather drink paint.  Aviva says it’s because she wanted to make the point that Reid was not there to be with the women.  Ramona asked why she had to use the term cougars and paint.
Sonja tells Aviva she back pedaled after St. Barts and started having interviews about Ramona in Miami, about them going out and partying and that she lied, lied, lied.  Ramona announces she can’t go through it again.  Aviva says the point she wants to make is she felt very betrayed by Ramona.  Ramona said she didn’t betray her. Aviva again says she felt very, very betrayed.  Ramona asks Aviva didn’t she just hear what Heather said, doesn’t she listen?  Aviva tries to explain her state of mind at the time and Ramona tells her she looked OK to her and not that upset about just getting off a harrowing plane ride.

Andy asks Heather and Carole how they felt being lumped in with the pent up cougar terminology.  Carole says she’s not good with that and Heather is shaking her head no.  Aviva says in her next blog she excluded Carole and Heather from that group.  Ramona tells Aviva that was very kind of her.  Andy asks Aviva if she decided she needed to apologize when she saw all the episodes and all her behavior and had an “oh wow” moment.  Aviva tells Andy she couldn’t believe how completely unhinged she had become and she felt worse than she had already felt.  Andy asks Carole and Heather what they thought when they saw it.  Heather thought it was a dark, very, very dark time for Aviva.  Aviva has a look of “what did she just say?”  Time for a commercial break.

Andy asks Ramona if, after she’s heard what Aviva has to say, she accepts her apology.  Ramona says she’s trying to take it all in, but what upsets her so much is that the past two months, Aviva has been trashing her in her twitter and her blog and if she’s sorry for what happened four or five months ago, why was she attacking her just a month ago?  Ramona says she’s never been attacked again and again like that.  Aviva has nothing to say to that.

Andy reads Aviva a viewer question about Reid’s disgusting remark about overweight girls gone wild.  Aviva says Reid knew she was upset and Sonja says that Aviva is very thin and so is Carole and maybe next to them Reid thinks they are fat.  Aviva tells Sonja that’s not true.  Both Sonja and Ramona ask Carole why she sat there and didn’t say anything.  Ramona tells Carole silence means she’s in agreement.  Carole says, no, well that’s, nervous laugh, while Heather pipes in and tells Carole she should have said something, that it’s bad to name-call, that somebody got hurt by that and that’s the lesson, that’s the take-way, clearly Reid is not . . . when Ramona says most women struggle with their weight and it was a horrible thing to say.  Luann says she’s sure it was a bad joke, and Aviva says it was a stupid joke, it was a bad joke.

Another viewer asks Aviva what she meant by defining “white trash” as great moral failure and wants to know where she found that definition.   Aviva says there are many definitions, but that she didn’t mean to refer to anyone’s skin color or economic status.  What she meant was “trashy.”  Ramona is over it and says whatever, Aviva, I wish you nothing but the best and I have no ill will towards you, but you need a different therapist.  Cue dramatic music.

Sonja:  Sonja’s sparkly silvery dress is shorter than Ramona’s, but not too short and it’s not too low cut. She’s wearing pearls and her hair looks very nice (probably extensions but nice extensions).  When Andy brings up the subject of Aviva’s ex-husband Harry (with video clips of everyone talking about Harry) and asks Aviva if it gets old hearing about him, Sonja takes offense when Aviva says it got old, and he’s her ex for a reason and Sonja wouldn’t like it if they talked about her ex all the time.  Wait a minute.  Sonja’s husband didn’t date and boink almost everyone available in New York City did he?  Sonja tells Aviva that nobody talked about Harry more than Aviva during the season and even points out the time she brought his name up like he was there with them when they were having dinner a La Cirque with the husbands, which was kind of weird.

Sonja then brings up the fact that Aviva told everyone at the beginning of the show that she loved Harry and didn’t have a problem with him in front of the camera, and then dissed him to her and Ramona privately and in the press more than once.  Aviva Drescher quote from a New York Post Article of 6/21/12: “I am very sad that this father has abandoned his son. I empathize with all women and children who have been hurt by deadbeat dads.” Sonja and Ramona further talk about an incident in the Golden Pear which is described in this New York Post article of 7/2/12:  [Drescher, 41, scolded her ex-husband in the upscale Golden Pear shop recently in Southampton Village over his alleged failure to pay support for their son, Harrison, 10, a source said.  The Bravo star lost it when she saw Dubin buying piles of pricey sandwiches, indicating he’s allegedly living high on the hog while owing about $344,372 in child support and other payments.  “You better fix this!’’ Drescher yelled. “How dare you buy sandwiches at the Golden Pear and not pay your child support?’’].

Aviva didn’t really have any explanations other than she knows Sonja was having trouble with her ex because she brought it up on the show, and would have supported her.  Sonja explains to Aviva that she doesn’t know about her situation and that that she worked and contributed money towards her marriage and Aviva’s situation was totally different.  Sonja tells Aviva she knew about Harry when she married him.  Aviva says she did not.  Sonja says that anyone that knows Harry would know the deal.  You can take whatever implication Sonja was getting at under your own consideration.  Aviva brings the subject of the children up and that neither should be talking about their exes; Sonja says she didn’t bring up Harry; and Aviva says neither did she.  Andy Cohen brought up Harry.  For once you are correct, Aviva.

Luann:  Luann is the only one wearing a long dress.  It’s flowy and very un-Luanny, but it’s pretty, except maybe I would have cinched up the spaghetti straps an inch or two.  I would also like for Luann’s hair to be a shade darker and her eyebrows a tad thicker than they were last night. But she’s always had a natural beauty and would look good with no make-up.  See Luann’s participation in the Carole section below.  See, she doesn’t even get her own segment, that’s how important she was to this season.  Ha, ha!

Aviva:  Aviva is wearing a pretty off-white beige dress with a sparkling embellishment.  It’s a beautiful dress but makes her look a little washed out, in my opinion.  Her roots are showing a tad.  Andy’s first question was asking Aviva if she and Ramona have spoken since the season ended.  She said they have not.

When Andy gets around to talking about Aviva, it is, of course, about her one leg and many phobias.  Cue video clips about Aviva’s fear of heights, elevators, planes, open jeeps, subways, smoke inhalation; her possession of gas masks, body gear, cipro (an antibiotic by the way); her avoidance of artificial sweeteners, dirt, and tap water, etc.  As Ramona says “she has many phobias.”  Aviva says her real phobias are about flying and heights, but Andy and the others tell her it seems more far-reaching than that.  Luann and Sonja make a little fun about Aviva’s phobias expiring and being renewed by the minute to which she replies “that was nice.”

Andy assumes all of it stems from the loss of her leg.  Aviva tells the awful story of her losing her leg on a conveyor belt and being trapped for hours and her dad telling her to yell when the paramedics are asking her to be quiet.  She starts tearing up while the others are thinking “here we go again.”  I’m assuming they are thinking that, I may be wrong.  She says she never discusses it with anyone and she says she projected all her anxieties on the other ladies.  She says it’s not that she can’t do anything anyone else can, but she has this cross to bear.  Aviva says it’s embarrassing she can’t go up an elevator without holding someone’s hand or take her daughter to Paris on a plane and she doesn’t want to be that person.

Andy asks Aviva how the loss of her leg defines her.  She says it doesn’t.  I think Ramona’s eyes about pop out of her head right then.  A viewer questions Aviva why she makes everything about her phobias when she says she doesn’t want to talk about her phobias.  Aviva says it appears that way, she doesn’t want to bore people with them, she’s bored with them herself and chooses not to discuss them anymore.  Promise, Aviva?  Thank You!

Carole is looking chic in her short black and silver dress with her long sun streaked locks.  During this hour, I found myself fixated on her nose when she was talking for some reason.  It looked odd.  Was it make-up or has her nose always looked like that and I never noticed?  Andy asks Carole if she thinks things can be worked out since she said at the end of the season she didn’t think things could be put back together again.  Carole responds she thinks everything is fixable but there’s a lot to work out.

Andy then asks Carole why she did the show since she had a public profile and a best-selling book already.  Carole’s answer is telling, I think and confirms some opinions I have about her.  She said as a journalist it appealed to her, she’s attracted to spectacle, whether it’s politics, war or cultural phenomenon (like the housewives franchise).  She thought it would be completely out of her comfort zone and it was because she’s an observer and in her head a lot.  She’s not a big talker and has an inside voice.  Even though it was a big struggle for her, she enjoyed it and it was her guilty pleasure.

Andy shows clips of Carole making fun of Luann and the “countess” thing (the American Indian scene and all of Luann’s one-upmanship lines, and Rajina and Najeem jewelry and design scenes).  This is Luann’s cue to tell Carole to please cut her a break and to call her on talking about her behind her back.  Carole tries to fob it off as having a sense of humor about things, but Luann is not having it.  Carole tells Luann she was whooping and making noises in the restaurant because she knew it was bothering her and Luann admits that’s exactly why she did it.  Then they get into the whole Rajina and Najeem design borrowing thing and their stories don’t match.  Rajina told Carole one story and Luann tells her that’s not how it went down at all.  There’s mention of Michelle Obama, Life and Style Magazine, J. Crewe, Vogue, blah, blah, blah.  Andy tries to ask Heather her take on it and she tries to get out of it at first, but then takes Carole’s side a little, which doesn’t make Luann happy.  Andy asks Carole about her comment of Luann being a “frend-jumper.”  I’m glad Andy isn’t giving his friend Carole a break.  Thanks Andy.  Sonja tries to take up for Luann and then tries to see Carole’s side of it.  We do find out that Carole never borrows clothes from anyone and all the clothes she wears are hers and she bought them.  Aviva tries to smooth it over and I give her props for that because she seemed to nip it in the bud.  Heather wasn’t very happy that Luann seemed to like Aviva’s explanation of the whole thing, but didn’t seem to like what Heather said.  Heather tells Luann that wasn’t fair and she means it.  Luann just smirks a little at that.

Next Andy reads a viewer question to Carole about why always talked smack about Luann behind her back but never to her face.  Luann says “that’s right.”  Before Carole answers, Heather and Luann get into a discussion of Heather never defending Luann.  Heather tells Luann she’s never said anything bad or derogatory about Luann and Luann replies that’s why she was so surprised at Heather’s answer about the designer thing just before.

Andy gets the back the question at hand (see above).  Carole says nothing she said on the show was malicious or mean to which the other couch responds with little vocal sounds like huh? and what?  Carole says in her talking heads she was just trying to be funny and thought Luann “got it.”  Sonja says she was surprised and taken aback by Carole’s talking heads, too.  Not that they were exactly mean girl, but that Carole never said any of that stuff to their faces.  Aviva tells Carole that she’s so lovely, she so understated and she’s so quiet that she said stuff in her interviews that nobody knew she had been thinking.  She again says she’s not trying to be mean and tries to look at the funny things. I never hear an “I’m sorry” come from Carole’s mouth and that’s a little disappointing to me.  I keep trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and she keeps making it difficult.

Andy’s last question to Carole is her aversion to using her title.  She’s explains that it’s not an American thing to do.  She identifies with being a journalist and writer, not being married to a prince.  Luann points out that she did not use the “countess” title once this season and Andy reaffirms “not this season.”  Carole says she really has no problem with it and thinks people should be able to identify themselves whatever way they wish.  Well then, stop calling the Luann on it, Carole.  I can’t believe I’m taking up for Luann.

Heather is wearing a black jersey-type dress and as she says “she bringing it New York style” by showing some major cleavage.  Her hair is long and also has that sun-kissed look. She describes her use of the word holla as a positive shout-out and real and organic.  Cue clips of Heather and Ramona talking over each other and Heather trying to give Ramona a make-over.  Ramona is upset she wasn’t invited to London and thinks Heather acts phony with her fake smile.  Heather accuses Ramona of either totally ignoring her or pow, socking her in the cheek.  Heather tells Andy she’s disappointed in Ramona because Ramona wanted to build a friendship and Heather expects more from her if they are going to be friends.  Ramona tells Heather that she was acting nice to her face, but some of the other women were telling her Heather had a problem with her, but they’re past that and she just wanted to put that on the record.  Heather says she wasn’t acting nice to her face for any other reason other than manners.  She thought Ramona and Mario were rude to her when they first met her.  Ramona didn’t know that and thought Heather wasn’t being sincere.  Heather says she sometimes chooses to smile through conflicts. Heather says she would now invite Ramona on a business trip because they have a rapport and she could tell Ramona to cut it out if she got out of line.  Ramona admits she and Heather did not get off on the right foot.  She thought of the new girls, she would be the closest to Heather, but thinks Heather was nervous at first and that’s what caused her to think Heather was fake. Sonja agrees.  After Heather got used to filming, things got better. Heather and Ramona both agree they are alike in some ways and maybe that’s why they clash sometimes.

Now this was a great reunion.  Everything got out on the table and was discussed.  No obvious hidden agendas, no hidden texts, no gossip, no “reading between the lines.”  Even Andy didn’t try to gloss over things and pretty much let them hash it out.  Gosh, I can’t wait until next week!  Ramona calls out George, Ramona calls out Aviva, Sonja calls out Heather, Heather calls out Sonja, Heather and Carole call out Luann, Luann calls out Ramona, and, wait for it, Ramona calls out Andy!  And it looks like no husbands.  Please let there be no husbands!


Basketball Wives – L.A. by Detox

Welcome back to Basketball Wives L.A.

We begin this week with Laura and Jackie meeting for lunch.  Jackie interviews that she feels like Laura’s heart is open to her, and she is very happy about this.

Jackie tells Laura about her last lunch with Draya, where Draya basically got up and left Jackie sitting alone at the table after some verbal sparring.  Jackie tells Laura HER version of the story, which is VERY different from the way I remember things taking place (This is not surprising, however.  After all, this IS Jackie Christie.  Her mind does not work like the normal mind).

According to Jackie, Draya told Jackie, “I don’t LIKE you being NICE.  None of the other girls do either.”  This is a bold-faced (bald-faced?  Take your pick) LIE.  I do not recall Draya saying anything LIKE this.  How Jackie conjured this up in her mind is a mystery to me.

Laura tells Jackie that, if it were her, she “wouldn’t give a sh*t” what Draya, or anybody else for that matter, thought about her.  So, she basically tells Jackie she does not understand why she is even bothered.

Jackie claims that she still wants to give Draya a chance because there are times that Draya can be sweet.  She mentions that there are also times where Draya can be “not sweet,” but she is willing to overlook this.  Jackie says this conflicting behavior of Draya’s confuses her (If this is not Jackie Christie projecting her OWN mood-changing, switch-it-up-within-minutes behavior on to Draya, I do not know what is.).

Jackie tells Laura that she will call Draya and try to get together with her ONE more time.  She says she will do this because it is what her HEART is telling her to do.

Jackie then asks Laura if she thinks Jackie should invite Draya to her 17th Wedding.  Laura tells Jackie that she should.  Laura interviews that, in her opinion, Jackie is “hungry” (i.e., desperate) for friendship.

Jackie tells Laura that her own family and Doug tell her that she has an issue with just letting a person walk out of her life and cutting them off (I’ll BET she DOES – kinda like Glenn Close’s character did in “Fatal Attraction.”  She had “an issue” just letting Michael Douglas’ character just walk out of her life.  I think Jackie’s “issue” when it comes to this is akin to the “Fatal Attraction” kind.  This is probably why Doug is still around – that and Stockholm Syndrome).

Next, we see Malaysia and Gloria meet in some type of clothing store.  Malaysia tells Gloria that she recently had a conversation with Gloria’s sister, Laura, and Laura discussed the distance in Gloria and Laura’s relationship.

Gloria agrees that there has been distance in her relationship with Laura.  She says that, with everything she has had going on for the past few months, she has not been able to make Laura and their relationship a priority in her life.

Gloria assures Malaysia that she will have a heart-to-heart talk with Laura to address their issues.

Draya is having lunch with her Mom and a man who turns out to be her father (I don’t remember seeing HIM last season.  I do recognize her Mom, though.  This has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING, but Draya’s father looks very young to be her father.  He’s also kinda cute.  Like I said, this has absolutely nothing of substance to do with the episode.  I just felt like acknowledging his youthful good looks).

Draya interviews that she would like to have both of her parents and her son move out to L.A.  While Draya has been trying to establish a solid career and a solid financial base in L.A., Draya’s mother has been taking care of Draya’s son out in Philadelphia, where Draya is from and where she used to live.  Draya interviews that she wants all of them (her mother, her father and her son) closer to her.

While they are having lunch, Draya broaches the subject of both of her parents (and her son, of course) moving out to L.A. to be closer to her (Draya’s parents are no longer together).

Draya’s father immediately says that he has no problem doing this.  Draya interviews that she was happily surprised by this.  Draya’s mother, on the other hand, indicates that she can make the move, but she will need more time to get things situated in order to make such a big move.  She tells Draya that her deadline to move (her and Draya’s son) out to L.A. is the following year, when Draya’s son finishes out his school year.

Draya then tells her father about how much her mother has done to help her with the raising of her son.  She tells him that her mother has been an awesome grandmother to her son, as well as a strong support system for her.  She continues and tells her father that she needs him to “step up” as a grandfather the way her mother has as a grandmother.  He nods his head, indicating that he is willing to do this.

Draya interviews that her Dad left her and her Mom when she was 5 or 6 years old, and she did not see him again until she was 21 years old.  She says that this caused her to have to fend for and take care of herself from an early age.  It also made her a survivor.  She knows that she can handle and survive anything.  She acknowledges that, once her father re-entered her life, he became a wonderful grandfather to her son.  Drays interviews that her father was NOT a good father, but he IS a good grandfather.

Next, we see Gloria, Brooke and Laura walk into some type of comic book printing place.  Gloria interviews that they are going to see the process of creating the comic book upon which Gloria’s upcoming movie role is going to be based.

At first, all of the women view the different story pages in black and white.  (I have to say that I am impressed.  Maybe Gloria and these people will prove me wrong, and the comic book and movie based on a character who is a ballerina by DAY and an assassin by NIGHT will be a big hit!)  Laura interviews that the comic book is cool, but she feels like Gloria has “lost” herself to the Hollywood lifestyle.

The comic book creators have a surprise for Gloria, and they bring her to a wall of the office and unveil full color, completed pages of the comic book.  Gloria, Laura and Brooke all seem very impressed by the color pages (And so am I.  I have to say that I am even more impressed with the color version of the comic book.  It actually looks GREAT!).

Malaysia brings her friend Bambi to meet Jackie for lunch.  She interviews that she knows she can count on Bambi to give her a good, objective and “outside” opinion on Jackie.  Bambi interviews that she is excited to meet Jackie.

Once Malaysia and Bambi arrive at the restaurant, they all hug, and Malaysia officially introduces Jackie to Bambi.  Once they are seated, almost right off the bat, Bambi tells Jackie that she has heard “a LOT” about her.  Jackie’s eyes narrow a bit at this.

Malaysia straight-up tells Jackie that she told Bambi that Jackie could be nice, but she could ALSO be crazy at times.  Jackie tells Bambi that the other women try to place the “stigma” of “being crazy” on her, but that it is NOT true (Oh, yes it is!!).  Bambi interviews that she LOVES crazy people.  In fact, she prefers them over “regular” people (Bambi has made me laugh, and this has caused me to like her.  Hearing her say that she likes “crazy people” lets me know that we are kindred spirits in a way.  However, what Bambi fails to realize is that there is a difference between good and fun and eccentric “crazy” and psychotic and scary “crazy.”  Jackie may be the latter, and Bambi does not realize this.  Be careful, Bambi!  Just sayin’!).

Jackie then brings up her 17th Wedding and discusses her plans with Malaysia and Bambi.  She then, out of the blue, says that Malaysia might not be comfortable with this wedding because it has a gay theme, and Malaysia is homophobic.  Malaysia instantly gets a look on her face that says, “WTF?  What the HELL are you talking about?!!  Are you serious right now??!!”  She interviews that she has NO idea why Jackie even said this because she has NEVER given Jackie ANY indication that she is homophobic (I have an idea why, Malaysia:  the reason Jackie said this is because she is CRAZY!  It is as simple as that.  You cannot argue or reason with CRAZY.).

Next, we see Laura and Gloria playing what looks to be a SERIOUS game of basketball.  Gloria interviews she and Laura have ALWAYS been competitive, but Laura IS a better basketball player than she is.

Once they finish their basketball game, they sit down on the court.  Laura tells Gloria that she “kinda” misses her.  Gloria asks, “Kinda?”  Laura responds, “Some things I miss.  Some things I don’t.”  Gloria just looks at her without asking for further explanation.

Gloria then launches into talking about how her career is just getting started, but she is trying to figure out if she is going to go with Matt or not (Where is he going?  Has he been traded to another team?  This is not even made clear during this conversation).  Laura tells Gloria that she should go with Matt to keep her family unit intact.  She interviews that, if she were in Gloria’s position, this is what SHE would do.

Laura then tells Gloria that she was mad at Gloria for a while.  Gloria asks her why.  Laura says that she has always felt like Gloria is a selfish person.  Gloria disagrees with Laura’s opinion.

Laura then tells Gloria that she thinks Gloria will do ANYTHING to get where she wants to go in Hollywood (Hmmm…..what does THAT mean, Laura?  That could be interpreted in so many ways – some good, some not-so-good.).  Gloria disagrees with Laura’s opinion again.

Laura also tells Gloria that she feels like Gloria has put this “wall” up and is not “real” anymore.  Gloria again disagrees and tells Laura that she is at her “most real” when she is around her family.  She tells Laura that she has simply grown and changed.

Laura responds by telling Gloria that she should still reach out to her family members, specifically HER.  Gloria counters this by saying that Laura also never reached out to HER.  She points out that Laura never once reached out and called her during the 8 months that she and her off-and-on-boyfriend/baby Daddy/former fiancé, Matt, were broken up.  Gloria says that she just felt “so ALONE” during this time period because she could not even really call and talk to her Mom because her Mom was always with “Team Laura” (I really wonder what she means by that).  So, in an effort to deal with her loneliness, she made friends with people she NEVER would have made friends with in the past.  Gloria then says that Laura did not even know that Gloria had a miscarriage during this time period (Say what, now?  Damn!  That is sad.  I’m sorry for you, Gloria).

Gloria then says that a “wall of competitiveness” has been built up between them by “outside sources.”  (Alright, I feel like these women are partially talking in some type of “code” that they do not want the viewers to decipher.  I mean, Gloria started this segment by interviewing that she and her sister have ALWAYS been competitive.  So, what’s up with acting like this competitiveness between them is a NEW thing?  Also, who are these mysterious “outside sources”?  Hmmm…..).

Gloria then tells Laura that she loves her, and there will never be anyone to replace Laura as her sister in her life.  They then both start to cry.  Laura tells Gloria that she wants Gloria to know that she will always be there for her and always love her.  Gloria interviews that she realizes now just how much she missed her sister and their relationship.  They both stand up and give each other a huge bear hug as they shed tears.  They also both say “I love you” to each other more than once (This is sweet).

Malaysia and Bambi are sitting at a table in the “Geisha House” restaurant.  Draya arrives to meet them.  She interviews that Malaysia invited her there to meet her friend, Bambi.

Draya looks cute (as usual) and is wearing a tight-fitting dress.  For some reason, Bambi asks Draya if she is wearing panties.  Draya responds that she NEVER wears panties.  Bambi says that she is the same way and gives Draya a big smile (Well, alrighty then!).

Draya interviews that, almost as soon as she sat down, Malaysia immediately brought up Jackie’s name.  She says she is annoyed by this because she is still smarting from the lunch she recently had with Jackie, where Jackie was talking so nasty and crazy that it scared her and caused her to immediately get up and leave Jackie sitting there alone in the restaurant.

Malaysia tells Draya some version of the story of Jackie and Draya’s lunch that Jackie told her.  Draya’s eyes widen while she is listening to Jackie’s version of their lunch, and she calls Jackie “a liar” and “a manipulator” and says that, at this lunch, Jackie literally “made my skin crawl.”

She then says that, during that lunch and even now, she wanted/wants to punch Jackie in her face, and she is not even a violent person (I can see how Jackie could inspire those feelings in a person.  She would not inspire them in ME, though, because I am only 5 feet tall, and Jackie is an Amazon.  The only things she would inspire ME to do are spray her with Mace and then start running as fast as my little legs could carry me).

The women decide to change the subject, and the new topic of conversation is Bambi’s prior negative history with Brooke.  Draya tells Bambi that she and Brooke know each other.

Draya then tells Bambi she wants to know the story of what happened between Bambi and Brooke.  Bambi tells Draya that she starting dating this “dude” that had a girlfriend about whom he neglected to tell her.  This girlfriend turned out to be Brooke.

Bambi continues and says that “this dude” liked to buy her presents, and she never even had sex with him (I’m going to write into the show as soon as I finish this blog to see if I can get “this dude’s” contact information.  He will buy me gifts, and I do not even have to have sex with him?  Oh yeah, I am going to call him up and say, “Let’s be friends!”).  Bambi indicates that she was simply entertaining this guy, but he really was not big deal to her.  In HER opinion, however, Brooke was the one who took it more seriously because she “caught feelings” for the guy.

Draya interviews that Bambi seems cool to her; however, she is a little uncomfortable with the fact that Bambi and Brooke “have beef.”  Draya explains that she simply does not want any “drama.”

Bambi then asks Draya how she knows Brooke and how long she has known her.  Draya says that she has known Brooke “for a few years” through “the industry” (of urban video and magazine vixens, I guess).  Bambi then flat out asks Draya, “Are you and Brooke friends?”  Draya says, “I don’t know” (Hmmm….interesting.  I don’t know either.).

Next, we see Doug and Jackie walking into Hansen’s Cakes so they can do taste testing for their 17th Wedding cake (You guys do not know how ridiculous I just felt typing “for their 17th Wedding cake.”  Well, NOW you do.).

The two of them taste different samples of cakes and discuss their particular likes and dislikes of each sample.  Jackie interviews that she LETS her husband THINK he is in on making the decisions, but, in reality he is NOT (I KNOW he isn’t….because you’re CRAZY, and you are a major CONTROL FREAK!!).  She further interviews that it is always ultimately about what SHE wants (Poor Doug!  He seems like SUCH a NICE guy too!).

While they are tasting the different cake samples, Jackie brings up the other women, and she asks Doug if he thinks she should invite the other girls to their 17th Wedding.  He tells Jackie to invite them all to their wedding, but to NOT let the issue of whether or not they actually DO show up negatively affect her day and her mood (Good advice.  Doug always gives good advice.).

Jackie tells Doug that when it comes to her repairing her friendships with the other women, ALL of them have to be ready, willing and able to work on it.  She cannot be the only one.  Doug wisely tells Jackie that true friendships go through ups and downs, and true friends have to weather these ups and downs.  Jackie interviews that Doug’s advice is right on point.  She also says that he is an “old soul” with very good advice.

Gloria and Laura are walking on a sidewalk holding Styrofoam cups with straws, as if they just left somewhere after having lunch.  Laura interviews that Gloria has “a big project” that is going to require her to be away from L.A. for a while (This mysterious “big project” is never discussed.  With that earlier “mysterious” conversation Gloria and Laura had, I’m starting to wonder if Gloria really works as a spy for the C.I.A. in between starring on “Basketball Wives,” breaking up and getting back together 25 times with Matt; raising twins; and pursuing an acting career.  Maybe she really IS an assassin, just like her upcoming movie role.).

Laura tells Gloria that, since she will be leaving and gone from L.A. for a while, she wants to give Gloria a going-away party.  Gloria seems cool with this, and she tells Laura that it is o.k. if Laura invites Jackie.  Laura tells Gloria that she will also be inviting Malaysia’s friend Bambi even though Gloria has not yet met her.  Laura tells Gloria that Bambi is a rapper.

Gloria then brings up the fact that Laura still occasionally hangs out with Jackie.  She says Laura is “really nice” to do that because it is like helping out at a homeless shelter or something (Oh, SNAP!).  Laura just looks at Gloria when she says this as Gloria just giggles.

Laura then says that she is not sure if she will be attending Jackie’s 17th Wedding.  Gloria widens her eyes and tells Laura that Jackie will “cut” Laura if Laura does not attend.  She also points out that Laura should keep in mind that Jackie even knows where Laura lives.  Gloria is only ½ joking (I stress the ½ — because the other ½ is DEAD SERIOUS).  Laura interviews that having a friendship with Jackie simply involves “too much emotional work.”

The scene ends with Laura telling Gloria that she will be responsible for organizing the Guest List for Gloria’s going-away party (Who are they kidding?  The “guest list” will consist of the cast of “Basketball Wives-L.A.” because the Producers demand this).

Next, we see Draya and her Mom walking into some type of store or shop.  Draya interviews that her Mom has a particular psychic that she has visited in L.A. a couple of times.  She asked Draya to visit the psychic with her this time, and Draya has agreed.  Draya further interviews that she feels “weird” doing this, but, because she wants to spend as much time as possible with her Mom whenever her Mom visits her in L.A., she will bite the bullet and do it.  She interviews that she is nervous and apprehensive because she is not sure if visiting a psychic fits in with her religious beliefs.

Draya and her Mom walk around and look at certain items in the psychic shop.  Draya interviews that she thinks the store is “creepy,” but she is trying her best to be “open.”  While they are browsing around the shop and waiting for the psychic, Draya asks her Mom again if she (and Draya’s son) is really going to move to L.A.  Her mother assures her that they will, indeed, be moving to L.A.  Finally, the psychic comes out and greets both of them.

During Draya’s session with the psychic, Draya immediately tells the psychic that she is very nervous.  The psychic puts Draya at ease.  She tells Draya that Draya is naturally very intuitive, and she is a person who “calls it like she sees it” (This is true.  This is also why Draya is one of my favorites on this show.  My other favorite is Malaysia.).  The psychic also tells Draya that she will NOT tolerate any inauthenticity or any fake people.  Additionally, she says that Draya has a very creative side, but she also has a business side to her personality.

During the session, Draya starts crying.  She tells the psychic that she feels a lot of pressure on her from her family because they depend on her a lot.  She also says that she is scared to make her family move out to L.A. to be with her, and she wonders if it is the right decision for everyone involved.

The psychic tells Draya that her family members are very strong.  She also feels that Draya now needs her family’s support in return for the way Draya has been supporting them in the past.  She tells Draya to stop feeling guilty about asking her family to move to L.A. to be with her and that it is the right decision for everyone.

Draya again interviews that her Dad not being around made her stronger because she had to take care of herself at a very early age.  Because of that, she feels like she can survive anything.  The scene ends with the psychic telling Draya that she can be honest with her parents about needing their help.

Next we see Doug and Jackie, who are going to do a “walk-through” of Club 11, which is the venue where they will be having their 17th Wedding.  The owner greets them at the door and introduces them to some of his employees.

The owner then takes them upstairs and introduces them to the woman and the man that will be dancing together in a cage during their reception.  Jackie interviews that she thought it only was going to be GUYS dancing as the entertainment at her reception.  She says that the female dancer is very pretty (as she narrows her eyes).

Once the dancers are formally introduced to Jackie and Doug, they ask Jackie and Doug what KIND of cage dancing they would like for the reception.  They then do a short demonstration of dancing in the cage for Jackie and Doug.  Jackie interviews that Doug seemed to be enjoying the show a little TOO much (Doug, you in danger, Boy!!  Be careful!).  Jackie and Doug tell the dancers that they want “very sexy” dancing from the dancers when they are in the cage.  Jackie interviews that their 17th Wedding will be crazy fun, and people will see a different side of her and Doug as a couple.

As they continue to walk around the venue, Jackie stops and tells Doug that she has a surprise for him.  She then tells him that that their daughter, Shanny, will be flying in for their wedding so that she can serve as Jackie’s Maid of Honor.  Doug is very happy about this.

Next, we see Laura, Gloria, Brooke and Jackie basically all arriving at the same time at some restaurant where Gloria’s going-away party is being held.  Once they are seated, Jackie tells everyone that she is so excited to be there.  She also tells them that she wants to hand out invitations to her 17th Wedding to everyone once they all arrive.

Gloria asks Jackie when her 17th Wedding is going to be held.  Jackie tells her July 8th.  Gloria tells Jackie she will not be able to attend because she will be out of town.  Gloria interviews that she actually would like to attend because she knows it is “going to be a hilarious sh*t show!!”  She laughs when she says this.

Jackie then looks at Laura meaningfully and asks Laura if she will be 1 of her 2 Maids of Honor for her 17th Wedding.  Laura looks like she does not quite know what to say.  Gloria looks amused.  Laura interviews that she wants to be excused.  She also interviews that her mind is completely BLOWN that Jackie actually thinks that she and Laura are FRIENDS (Why does this surprise you, Laura?  You already know how crazy Jackie is, and you HAVE been hanging out with her on occasion.  In Jackie’s world, that makes you her B.F.F.).

At this point, Draya, Malaysia and Bambi all arrive together and join the party.  Brooke sees Bambi.  She interviews that as long as Bambi remains civil, then she will be civil as well.

Draya interviews that as soon as she sees Jackie, she is like “What the EFF?”  She explains that she cannot believe Jackie is even there because Gloria does not even LIKE Jackie.  It is clear that Draya still has NOT gotten over her nasty lunch with Jackie.

Once everybody is seated, Jackie says she would like to hand out invitations to her 17th Wedding.  She then hands everyone an invitation.  Draya, like everybody else, accepts her invitation.  She interviews that she could not care any less about Jackie’s invitation or her 17th Wedding.

After handing out her invitations, Jackie says she wants to make an announcement.  She looks at Draya and says she wants to apologize to her.  She explains that she is still hurt that Draya just up and left her at the restaurant, but she is willing to give Draya another chance.  To that end, she says she would like to have another one-on-one lunch with Draya.  She then emphasizes that she WAS very upset that Draya did not want to listen to what she had to say at their lunch.

Draya tells Jackie that Jackie sometimes really needs to listen to what Jackie HERSELF says, not the OTHER person (because Jackie can say some CRAZY stuff.  She was definitely talking crazy at that lunch with Draya).  Draya then calmly says that there will be “no more lunches” between herself and Jackie.  Jackie interviews that this response from Draya “revokes” Jackie’s invitation to Draya to her 17th Wedding (I’m pretty sure of the following things:  1) Draya could not care less; and 2) Draya was not going to attend anyway).

Jackie then gets visibly angry and starts speaking in a very condescending way to Draya, as if Draya is a child, and Jackie is an adult.  Draya interviews that Jackie is disrespecting her.

I guess to continue with the “Draya is a child, and I am a GROWN A*S WOMAN theme,” Jackie pulls a sucker out of her purse and offers it to Draya.  Draya basically tells Jackie that she can keep her damned sucker.

Jackie then gets angrier and, in a threatening tone, tells Draya that Draya does NOT want a problem with her.  Draya looks at Jackie and tells her that she is NOT worried AT ALL about Jackie

Jackie tells Draya that she SHOULD be worried.  Draya tells Jackie that, regardless of what Jackie says, she is NOT worried about Jackie AT ALL.

Jackie gets even angrier at Draya’s refusal to back down to her and to show any fear and then resorts to verbally abusing Draya by calling her “a bitch” and “a ho” more than once.  Draya responds by telling Jackie that she is “old and washed up.”

Draya interviews that, “after the 19th ‘ho’ from Jackie,” she was DONE!  At this point, it looks like some type of physical altercation is about to start between big ol’ Jackie and little bitty Draya.

Next Week:

Draya and Jackie almost come to blows at Gloria’s going-away party.  The other women get in between the two of them to prevent this from happening, and Jackie is escorted out of the restaurant by security.

Jackie tells Bambi that Draya will have to “grovel and apologize” to her (Dream on, Jackie!  I do NOT see Draya doing anything even close to that when it comes to you.).

Malaysia asks Draya why she fought a Senior Citizen (OMG!!  This is hilarious, as Malaysia is calling Jackie “a Senior Citizen.”  Oh, SNAP!!  Malaysia is always so mature, calm, ladylike and level-headed; I didn’t know she had this kind of hilarious insult in her being.  Apparently, she DOES.  Go, Malaysia!).

Draya tells someone she will definitely NOT be at Jackie’s wedding (Well, that’s no surprise!).




Dancing with the Stars –All Stars, Week 3, Iconic Dances

by   COCFarm

I can’t believe it, but I’m getting into DWTS.  Tonight was their choice of iconic dances of the past seasons of DWTS, with the stars in control of what dance they wanted to improve upon from other dancers from previous seasons, as well as wardrobe.  I won’t go into the detail of who picked what dances of the past…pretty boring unless you can recall those dances.  But they were suppose to take those dances and make them their own.  And WOW, many of them did.  It was an impressive night.

The dancing is fabulous and the rules are starting to break.  Some fabulous dances happened this evening and everyone did a great job.  The highlights are with the women, and I think a woman will win the All-Stars.  I’m going out on a limb, but really, the women are quite strong.  The top dances of the night were Melissa’s Samba and Kelly’s Pasadouble.  The both scored a 27 and were about as perfect as I have seen a dance go.  However, Shawn’s evening finale dance was by far, the most spectacular thing to be seen on Dancing.  She scored a 26.5, but that was because they broke ‘holds’ something the dance does not allow them to do.  But the judges all said itwas the best dance ever.  They started by entering the stage from either side and catapulting to the stage after bouncing off a small trampoline to the dance floor, and ended the dance by running up the two staircases and midway up, falling off the edge to a cushioned landing off screen.  It really was incredible.  It is entertaining and well worth the watch to check it out online.

Here are their scores in order of how they appeared on the show:

  • Drew & Anna, Cha cha : 24
  • Gilles & Peta, Tango: 25.5
  • Melissa & Tony, Samba: 27
  • Apolo & Karina, Foxtrot: 25.5
  • Kelly & Val, Pasadouble: 27
  • Kirstie & Maks, Cha cha : 24
  • Sabrina & Louie, Pasadouble: 25.5
  • Emmitt & Cheryl, Pasadouble; 25
  • Helio &, Chelsie, Quick-step: 25.5 (He stepped on Chelsie’s dress and they got off time)
  • Bristol & Mark, Pasadouble: 22.5
  • Shawn & Derek, Quick-step: 26.5

Of course I will say once again, Bristol isn’t up to the game of the rest of the dancers.  Kirstie and Drew follow closely behind.  Tuesday night is a DOUBLE elimination.  I’d just hate to see Melissa, Kelly, Sabrina or Shawn go.

So the clinch for next week is Paula Abdul will be a guest judge.  It makes sense that she’d judge dancing (more than singing!).  Also, tomorrow night, the dancers will find out what they will have to dance the following week and somehow, they get to pick the dances for one another…some of them possibly being dances that they have never done or necessarily heard of before.  Should be interesting.  All will be explained tomorrow night.  But NMD loves Shawn so she must be a happy girl tonight!  Wow.  It was pretty fabulous.  She put her gymnastics to good work with this dance.

See you again tomorrow for the double elimination.  If it’s one of my girls, I will try NOT to slur my words when writing it up!




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Atlanta ladies are notorious for not getting their blogs in – so that might be light duty.


New Obituary for Lynn in the Chicago Sun Times

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522 Responses to Housewife News / Real Housewives of New York Reunion / Basketball Wives / Dancing with the Stars/ Lynn Obituary

  1. amalfi says:

    My heart broke for Aviva last night when she fake cried that because of her phobia of flying she can’t do simple things like take her daughter to Paris, like everyone else can.

    Anyone who doesn’t feel sorry for her has a black heart and should start working on a banner – pronto.

  2. Gasp! Am I first?? LOL! Lots to read today! I will be back after coffee and reading with some thoughts on last night’s NY reunion. Have a great morning!

    New post and stuff today!

  3. Rebecca says:

    I for one was really impressed Heather came right and said to Luann’s face what everyone is thinking. Carole did NOT so I don’t know what her tweet was all about. When is Luann ever going to admit she isn’t perfect! Why can’t she ever admit when she’s said or done something wrong?

    Luann’s BS makes my eyes roll. I hate that.

  4. Kat from Ohio says:

    i actually don’t think luann came off so badly last night. in fact, i think it was her best showing at a reunion so far. i liked the snark from her, weirdly. carole, i was not so fond of. really–i think the bethenny comparisons wound up not fitting her at all. bethenny always said things to cast-mates’ faces, though of course she exaggerated those feelings in the talking heads. carole was just… fake a lot of the time.

    i’m excited for the jill one on one. i posted last night (to the horror of a few) that i think bravo really is considering bringing her back next season. the special is a test. if the ratings don’t come in, i’m sure she’ll be finished. from twitter, it looks like she and the mccord/vankempen camp have a pact to try to get both alex and jill back on the show.

    i also mentioned that in the quick teaser that aired on WWHL, i almost fell off the sofa because i *gasp* agreed with jill. she told andy directly that she thought he picked bethenny’s side. i mean, he totally did–we all did. but we also don’t have a professional relationship with bethenny or jill. he’s always doing that–picking sides and then claiming to be neutral. sometimes he’s even more annoying than jill. and at least it seems like she’s going to just tell him exactly what she thinks, regardless of what happens (always both her best AND worst quality). but i’d much rather see that than alex and simon kissing andy’s ass to get their spots back.

    sorry, a lot of this is repetition of what i said last night. and who knew that i’m posting something a bit jill-friendly? i guess after the absolutely vile display from new jersey, jill doesn’t seem so bad. i also kind of missed her tiffs with ramona haha. they both just know how to wind each other up!

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Hi Kat, so are you going to watch WWHL with her on it?
      I just can’t, but I do want a play by play of everything said. If they do bring her back on NY , I am done with it. I am pretty sure I am done with the OC. I’m the fence about Jersey, it depends on who they bring back.

      • Kat from Ohio says:

        I am going to watch. I’m interested in at least seeing what she has to say, though historically (okay, the one time they showed one), the promos promised a lot and didn’t deliver. i find it so fascinating that this “sit down” is coming now, rather than when the news of the firing first broke. there’s a lot going on that makes me go “hmmm” and i want to know what bravo is thinking.

      • What about BH and TA? That’s the one I’m most conflicted about. OC bores me since there is no one likable. I’m always shocked by how many people watch it.

      • plainviewsue says:

        I will absolutely watch the interview with Jill. As much as I detested her behavior, especially in terms of Bethenny, after experiencing the moral compass of one Melissa Gorga, I would (cant believe I am saying this) take Jill back and kick Melissa’s lying butt back to Lookers!

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I will watch Jill on WWHL out of sheer curiosity. I still don’t want her back on the show, though. I just feel like she is going to keep playing her same tired games of trying to “get” Ramona “back” for all the ways she feels Ramona wronged her. I also feel like she’s going to go back to her old CHILDISH habit of trying form “Teams” and doing everything to get her “team” to beat “Team Ramona.” I’m tired of that B.S.

          • plainviewsue says:

            Believe me, I DO NOT want Jill back. And now she’s tweeting that Aviva needed her on the show this season. Yep, the bitch is back!!!!

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              Oh, LORD!! So, now Jill is going to make Aviva her new “project,” just like she did with PSYCHOTIC Kelly Bensimon. We see how well THAT worked out! I am firmly convinced that Jill played a party in Kelly’s breakdown in “Scary Island.” Don’t get me wrong. Kelly probably has something chemically wrong with her mind; HOWEVER, my feeling is that Jill was constantly calling Kelly while she was on “Scary Island” to NOT ONLY be nosey about what was going on, but to ALSO be a damned bird chirping in Kelly’s ear about how “bad” and “evil” the other women were. This, IMO, contributed to Kelly being paranoid and overly defensive and eventually having a complete psychotic break.

              Gee, THANKS, Jill!!

              So, now Jill has another CRAZY (Aviva) with and upon whom she will wreak havoc — all the while claiming to be Aviva’s B.F.F. — just like she did with Kelly (When the other women called Jill from “Scary Island” to express their concern to her about Kelly and to ask Jill to help her, Jill was like, “…Ummm….Kelly WHO? I’m going to meet the other women on that trip come hell or high water! Who cares if Kelly is having a breakdown? I mean, we’re friends, but I never promised that b*tch a rose garden.” Then, she sees Krazy Kelly on her way in as they are going opposite ways in the airport and Jill simply waves, “Hi and Bye, B*tch!! See YA. Wouldn’t wanna be YA. I’m off to get some more camera time on Scary Island!!”

              Jill will probably do things like hide Aviva’s leg and tell her that Ramona did it. Aviva will LITERALLY then be HOPPING mad and, once she finds another leg to put on, BEAT Ramona to DEATH with her SWIMMING LEG; get arrested; and go to prison — which she will NOT be able to handle because she is insanely claustrophobic, has a phobia about stripes (as in prison stripes) on clothing, and has a phobia about having to associate with some “lower classes.” This extreme elitist attitude will end up getting Aviva BEATEN TO DEATH in the prison yard.

              And all the while, Jill will be attending any and everything — including the opening of an ENVELOPE — without giving a 2nd thought to the 2 deaths for which she is responsible (Ramona’s and Aviva’s). She will be focused on what is REALLY important: once again having a platform to be a FAMEWHORE and once again being able to use her position as a “Real Housewife” into bullying and threatening people into giving her stuff for FREE.

              • majnon says:

                Detox, that is awesome, so funny. No Jill for me!

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  Jill brings bad “juju” with her wherever she goes, IMO. No more Jill for me either!

                  • Orson says:

                    So, I guess you’re saying you don’t care for Jill?

                    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                      Gee, Orson, did I make myself that obvious? D*mn! I was trying to be SUBTLE (by SCREAMING the word SUBTLE).

              • cocfarm says:

                I love it! “will steel avivas leg and say Ramona did it”. Priceless!!

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Yes, so funny. Picturing her in the prison yard. That badass Aviva. Scolding everyone. “Why would you tattoo that teardrop by your eye? Don’t you know the tools here are not sanitary? I’ll bet your tattoo artist wasn’t licensed. You are white trash!! you and your tattoo artist. The two of you!! What you’re not white? Oh, well, I didn’t mean that, I meant you’re trashy!!! that’s better isn’t it? I said I’m sorry. Profusely, that means it’s real. Forgive me NOW. Did I tell you about when I was six years old. About how my father said “Keep YELLING AVIVA?” WELL, i yelled and I’m not about to stop now!!!”

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  EXACTLY, Lainey (I love the way you always get my twisted sense of humor. Birds of a feather….). 😀

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    There are many of us who get and love your humor, Detox – – -witness the outpouring when you were ill. It’s great to have you back!!!

                    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                      Why thank ya, Lainey? We gotta laugh to sometimes keep ourselves from crying, right? Life is SHORT. Laughter is good medicine.

    • JenFromCincy says:

      I think the main difference between Bethenny and Carole is that Bethenny had as much if not more self-deprecation mixed in with her jabs at others. If you go back and read her earliest blogs, she had a mix of that as well which gave her a great “everywoman” likeability. Since then there has been a shift and it’s coming off as judgment, more than observation, because she’s no longer including herself in the jokes and is acting removed in a sense from all the nonsense, rather than a willing participant.

      • Agreed! Perfectly stated!

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Yes, exactly – it’s her air of being above it all that doesn’t sit well. If she’s above all of this, then she shouldn’t bother w/being on the show.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        That’s a good point. But Bethenny took the same kind of heat. I wonder if we went back would it be from the same people.

        And regarding Aviva… in general, not in response to this comment. Some think she made a joke of phobias. I know some who can function at times. What if they said oh well i couldn’t go out yesterday so I better not today because people will think I’ve faked it.

        I do agree Aviva needs therapy and to get to know herself and get over her trauma. She speaks of the dad telling her to keep screaming and she kind of still is. We all get in ruts and childhood stuff needs to be dealt with.

        When someone gets fame how do they keep their realness? I’ve seen it happen in real life several times. And I’ve been on the inside often enough to wonder where the change in themselves comes from and at what point. And how to prevent it if one does get fame if they’re not aware of it.

        • “She speaks of the dad telling her to keep screaming and she kind of still is.”

          Brilliant LME!

          The thing is, eventually, you have to do something else with that voice in order to heal.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            Someone else may have said that before and I’m not recalling it. Yes she needs to internalize the bits of sense she said here and there. I’m glad if she finally got how much she over reacted to almost everything.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              I think someone told her to bring the drama. The season was pretty low key. The phobia issue is pretty simple to me. Adiva said that they got worse after she had her children. She was not a pregnancy model. I also think that control is an element of what triggers her condition, that and fear of loss of control. Bravo is not the place for a controlling neurotic reality character. For her own health, Adiva needs to leave the show. IMO.

              • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                I agree that Aviva needs to leave the show for her own mental health and the health of her family.

    • scorpiosue1102 says:

      Jersey is just bad all around but Jill was completely vile. The way she treated Bethenny, Ramona, and Silex was just awful. I will also categorize her behavior towards Kelly as vile. Jill was warned by Bethenny as to how bad and unhinged Kelly’s behavior was yet she did nothing. She was more worried about her own arrival to St. Barth’s. If Andy brings back Jill I don’t think I could watch RHONY.

      • scorpiosue1102 says:

        Not St. Barth’s LOL….I’m mixing up my Scary Islands. St. John’s.

      • Constance says:

        I agree, RHWNY wouldn’t be watchable with Jill.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        ITA, Scorpio. Jill is just VILE to me. She did evil things like trying to get people fired and constantly putting out nasty stories about cast mates she felt “wronged” her in some way.

        • Ça va says:

          Caught some of the NY reunion repeats yesterday, and I was struck, once again, by the hate in JZ’s eyes when she looked at Alex or when something was said she didn’t like. She is vile.

          • Delighted says:

            I think we all recognized Jill Zarin’s utter contempt for anyone who got in her way. I love RHWNYC but would never watch a return of a woman who has no concern for anything but her self aggrandizement…standards, anyone?

  5. I hope that the seating arrangements at the reunion last night don’t mean that Aviva is definitely coming back next season….PLEASE bravo NO!!!!

  6. butterisafruit says:

    BB, thank you VERY MUCH. I don’t have Bravo anymore but I’m still nosey as a cat. You explained everything beautifully. I’ve read the Hw’s blogs. You’re review was very close to their comments. Although Heather went on for pages explaining Holla. AND Carole said she DID borrow the dress she’s wearing.

    From what I observed on twitter and what is written here, I think Aviva has only one phobia, and
    it’s “fear”. She’s been coddled all her life, for an obvious reason, and it’s done her no good.
    No one taught her to face and challange life as it comes. Using phobias as reasons not to do something is an excuse. Many of us fear flying, elevators in high rises, I hate escalators. Yet we
    do these things because we have to exist in this world. We are not babied, we endure.
    She needs something to focus/worry/enjoy that is bigger than herself.

    • amalfi says:

      I think “fear” is just her schtick. Not buying it.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO Aviva uses her accident to punish other people for not putting her on the pedestal she thinks she deserves to be on. I find her very inelegant and at times down right trashy.

      • 2Stupid says:

        WCW, I could not agree more. She believes she is above every one else on the social scale, and expects everyone to respect her social standing. Why, I’m not sure.

  7. JenFromCincy says:

    Back when MTV emerged there was a song called, “Video Killed the Radio Star” referring to the fact that you could no longer just have a beautiful voice, but you had to be attractive as well. I think the modern version of that concept is, “Twitter Killed the Reality Star.” At the beginning of Housewives, Twitter was nonexistent and My Space was the preferred social media. Now that real time interaction with the wives is not only common, but in some cases bordering on obsessive, we have begun to see the “real” reality and not the edited versions the producers would like us to see.

    For some housewives, that has given them a platform for redemption and a glimpse into their humanity. For others it is their downfall, as they try to mould themselves into whatever they feel the public is looking for them to be rather than being authentic. I think Aviva is a prime example. She spewed what she thought the public wanted (continuing to bash the easy Pinot target) and when she saw that Ramona (despite her flaws) had a bigger fan base, she is now back-pedaling furiously to try and redeem herself in the public’s eyes. I would find her much easier to bear if she had accepted responsibility for her behavior and apologized before the public could react. It would have seemed sincere then, but now it just has the shades of Zarin PR cloaking true disdain with an insincere remorse. (Which is kind of like wearing a bright orange bra under a white silk top. We can totally see it, and it’s tacky as heck.)

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I think there is a lot of truth to what you are saying and I would add Jill Zarin and Jac Laurita to that list.

      • JenFromCincy says:

        Although I didn’t mention her by name, Jac was definitely in my head when typing the “borderline obsessive” part. And I agree that Jill was the first HW (imo) that was naive enough to think that we could read something she said in black and white and then completely forget she said it if she lied about it later. Stupid move to underestimate your audience.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          those who use twitter to further their businesses have the right idea, those who think they can rewrite history find that their dishonesty doesn’t go unnoticed – twitter is a difficult social media tool to use correctly

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I would add Jill Zarin and Jac Laurita to the list as well. Jill came across even more hateful and vindictive on Twitter.

        Jac comes across as a straight delusional LOON (who we have watched her, via Twitter, slowly unravel and eventually become unhinged). As ATL said yesterday, ALL of the Jersey housewives are delusional in some way. Jac’s delusions scare me at times, though. I mean, her obsession with Teresa make wonder if she would do actual bodily harm to Teresa. Her constant DM’ing of people who make comments she does not like and then BLOCKING them so they cannot respond is also odd. She blocks EVERYBODY who disagrees with her just so she does not have to deal with the fact that, like it or not, Teresa has a strong fan base despite the fact that the other 4 hate her and want to see her taken down (It’s akin to a child putting fingers in both of his/her ears and loudly saying LALALALALALALALA, I can’t HEAR you because I am refusing to listen….LALALALALALALALA!).

        I am so happy that MORE THAN ONE blogger has written about Jac’s Twitter obsession and crazy behavior on same. I am also happy that Andy basically asked her about it on the Reunion and indicated that her Twitter behavior makes her look crazy (only he used the finger going around in a circle on the side of his head to indicate WACKO!).

        I hope Jac pays attention and, in the future, STOPS that foolishness and chooses to use her Twitter account to help in the fight for autism and promote whatever business projects she’s got going.

        • Donna says:

          (It’s akin to a child putting fingers in both of his/her ears and loudly saying LALALALALALALALA, I can’t HEAR you because I am refusing to listen….LALALALALALALALA!).

          ROFLMAO 🙂 🙂

    • scorpiosue1102 says:

      I don’t know if it’s the fact that Ramona has a bigger fan base or if people just didn’t like Aviva’s antagonistic, bad behavior.

      • JenFromCincy says:

        I should have been more clear in my statement. I don’t know the minds of every watcher, so you are correct that I can’t state that Ramona has a bigger fan base in general, but in the “Twitterverse” Ramona about 5 times as many followers as Aviva. Granted she’s been on longer and has been able to build it up over time, but as of right now her fan base on Twitter is more than 5 times larger than Aviva’s. Sorry for the lack of clarity.

        • JenFromCincy says:

          Didn’t mean to be redundant with the 5 times. I meant to give exact numbers in the first example and forgot to insert them before I hit post. (Blonde moment) The current numbers are 282, 890 for Ramona vs. 49,523 for Aviva.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            I think it’s pretty obvious that Ramona has more fans.

            • butterisafruit says:

              I unfollowed Aviva. She kept harping on how horrible Romana was and how she was right ALL THE TIME. It was constant berating. Who want’s to read that?

          • princesspindy says:

            I think your post was well written and thought out. Thanks for sharing.

    • trudie says:

      Very well said.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Great Comment.

  8. I enjoyed the article written about Lynn. I think she would be very happy that her work continues…

    I thought the NY reunion was tame compared to NJ. Aviva is clearly delusion if she thinks anyone will think she’s genuine. The look she had on her face when she made the Limbaugh comment said it all for me.

    It also seemed to me last night that Luann was out of her element. She really didn’t have a story line and she had no one to back her up, so her comments/contributions fell on deaf ears. I don’t think she’s gonna be back.

    • Queen Butter Bean says:

      Oh – and I think it’s kinda funny that the WWHL interview with JZ was taped – so they could edit out her self-promotion. It will be interesting to see nonetheless – at least for me.

      I hope, hope, hope they’re not thinking of bringing her back. That would make me stop watching ALL Bravo period!

      • lovemamaearth says:

        Good point about editing. I wish JZ would just go away.

        I agree that Lynn would like that our community is continuing. I like how Orson calls it Lynn’s promotion.

        Does anyone know if Lu and Jac are still together? I think the last tweet posted here from Lu said yes they were.

        And I think Ramona acted every bit as bad this season as Aviva did.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Luann’s best bet at this point is to stand firmly behind Ramona and Sonja. She’s been on the fence, trying to play all sides, and she’s losing relevance. She can’t carry a place on this show w/o a solid alliance w/a stronger character.

      • Ça va says:

        Her next trick might be to marry Jacques and give up the title! Watch Luann navigate the tricky waters of Manhattan social life as a plebeian! (Or white trash trailer turd, as it’s called by the incest is best tag team of ADD & her old geezer pervy pop.) Can a woman, who was once married to someone descended from the family that PRESENTED (not gave, Lulu.) the Statue of Liberty to the US, count on her friends to stand by her as she condescends, makes passive-aggressive remarks, and generally acts like she’s better than them, all without the meaningless title to back her up? Is it the ties that bind or the tubes tied that Jacques will have a harder time dealing with? Watch what happens! Or don’t.

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          I love this! We should have a post where we write next season’s storylines for each of the HWs. 🙂 And their taglines!

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          HA! Good comment. I think LuAnn is going to hold on to that title for dear life. I think, in her mind, it defines her as a person. Last night, was the ONE AND ONLY time I ever saw LuAnn ADMIT and OWN UP TO being passive-aggressive to just annoy/insult/get under someone’s skin (I should have checked outside my window to see if pigs were flying.). This was when she admitted to Carole that she DID do something to get on Carole’s nerves (I can’t remember for sure, but I think it was whooping like a Native American).

          Maybe LuAnn only owned up to what she did to Carole because Carole is a PRINCESS (which trumps her COUNTESS. *Shrug*).

          • lovemamaearth says:

            I think you’re right Detox.

            Alex’s video is good.

          • Ça va says:

            Princess trumps Countess so the jig is up! LuAnn has seen the future and if she plays her cards right, by relinquishing her hold on her inferior title, she can be the one to call BS on Rahzi’s claims of not caring about her title, which is funny cause she sure mentions it a hell of a lot, including in her tagline, and her blog posts, and her tweets.
            (Haha! Just saw Andy on that episode of SATC where he is trying shoes on Carrie!)

  9. not THAT Jill says:

    I really liked Carole at the start of the season but she wore on my nerves. She is funny and witty but I think she believed she was too smart for this HW’s crap and that kind of put me off. I liked when it seemed like she was in on the “joke” but I didn’t like when she started acting like the viewers were the :joke”. I also have a hard time with people who see things that are wrong and sit back and do nothing. She saw Aviva going off like a wild woman in St. Barth’s but just sat back and let it go-she needed to diffuse but really couldn’t be bothered. Odd.
    Luann-wow she never had so much to say at a reunion. I guess not having JZ around really freed her to start speaking. I cant wait to hear her pirate excuse next week. I bet she blames Ramona for the whole thing!!
    Heather was not my fave in the beginning and she is not my fave now…she just doesn’t do anything for me. I don’t dislike her-I kind of “nothing” her?
    Aviva-OH MY-the leg story has lost some of it’s wow factor b/c it has been discussed to death. It is a horrid story and it is tragic and heart breaking-the first 20 times I heard it-I felt so sorry for her. The phobia and anxiety problems are real and happen to many people. However I have never heard people go on and on about themselves and their problems and the say-“it does not define me”. That was dumb-we all see what defines her.
    Ramon and Sonja were right to say that Aviva and her apology suck. She has bashed them on twitter all season long. Now she said that she was just :staying in character” to keep with the sequence of the season. How annoying!!!! Just like Kelly saying she was “acting” during the Scary Island trip. The worst part is the Reid joke-she didn’t seem all that bothered by it. She should have been out-raged that he said such a thing but it didn’t seem liked she cared.
    Ramona was funny-he faces were hysterical-every time Aviva started on the same story-Ramona and her eyes told us exactly how she felt.
    Sonja needs to cool it with the Harry crap. I think Aviva was wrong to say Sonja is not a girls girl-she is-she is just not Aviva’s girl. I think she brings up Harry just to piss Aviva off but it has gotten old.

    OT-@Closet__Freak has her vlog up on YouTube -NJ recap. It is so damn funny!!!

    • melthehound says:

      Since you mentioned it, Jill (nntj)…

      • amalfi says:

        I want her to live in my pocket and tell off the douchebags I meet in real life.

        • OMG the best was she wouldn’t have accepted Kathy’s lame apology to Teresa about T’s mom “is an effing liar” and T’s dad “a coward.” No no no – Closet__Freak would have told Kathy “no bitch, you need to come crawling to my parent’s house, kiss the rings, and apologize to them.”

          She takes a long time to say it, but it’s worth hearing. So usually I play solitaire while listening.

          Agree, wish I could pop her out to tell off the people in my life that need to be told. Love love love her attitude. She says “all y’all’s crazy” about RHONJ.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          I’m not sure I want her in my pocket, as she’d exhaust me. But I’d sure like her to appear now and then. She’s great to knit to.

          For me, the best is at the end where she says “I hope I covered everything. And if I dint, oh f**kin’ well”. I roared.

          I hope she does one of these for every show from now on.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I LOVE this woman, and I hope she continues her VLOGS because I am HOOKED! She’s hilarious. I like the fact that she added the purple alien, “Max,” to her closet. This shows that she is FUN and does not take herself too seriously.

        I LOVED when she called Joey Gorga “a pansy” and “a little b*tch” because that is EXACTLY how I see him. I think she may be on to something when she says she gets the feeling that Joey’s father is distant from him because he sees him as “weak” and “soft”.

        This woman gets in my HEAD and puts damned near ALL of my thoughts on her videos.

        • Rebecca says:

          Dying of laughter over here! Cuz you a little b*tch!

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            “YOU’SE A PANSY” AND “YOU’SE A LI’L B*TCH!”

            Another good one: “Do I think Melissa Gorga was a stripper?…


            YA BET YA G*DD*AMN A*S I DO!!!”

    • I agree with your characterization of Carole. In the beginning of the season I did like her as well but then she acted as though she didn’t care about being involved in the drama and yet she was the biggest sh*t starter and talked out of both sides of her mouth. I can’t stand wishy-washy people. Pick a position and stick with it, for better or worse. And for god’s sake Heather, stop saying HOLLA and Andy Cohen stop ENCOURAGING HER TO SAY IT!!!

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        Heather thinks Holla is real and organic – it’s so stilted and dated, it’s the exact opposite of real and organic.

        • She’s another one who makes up definitions for things….just like “White trash” = moral failing or whatever the hell Aviva said

          • melthehound says:

            I think Aviva knows exactly what white trash is because every time she looks in the mirror, she sees it. That’s my opinion, good or bad, I’m sticking to it.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          No kidding, Lady C. It’s real and organic? OK, go ahead and call it that Av’s. but Not everything that is real and organic is pleasant,…did it come out of your A$$, Aviva?

      • scorpiosue1102 says:

        I believe that Carole thinks she is the verbal filler that everyone wants to hear. Yeah, some of it was witty but to who’s expense?

  10. Luann must have a feeling that she is in jeopardy of losing her spot on RHONY because she came out of the box swinging. She has been a bore for most of the season so I can see them letting her go and replacing her with Jill. 😦 I have a VERY BAD feeling about her interview on WWHL. I think Bravo is going to invite Jill back. I hope the ratings for next week’s WWHL are horrible because if they are good, Jill will be back, mark my words. 😦

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I love your name. Question: if I watch a recorded version of it, does that help/affect the ratings?

      • amalfi says:

        They can promote with actual teasers like “why did you fire me” instead of guessing if anything worthwhile will be discussed.

      • amalfi says:

        Oh haha… when you record it someone is watching even if its your dvr, right?

      • I heard that if you have a Nielsen box, the DVR/recorded version does count in the ratings. If you don’t have a Nielsen box, you can record it or watch it live and it won’t help the ratings.

        • Sam says:

          About a year ago, I read an article about how Nielsen was going to work with cable TV providers to get data from the public at large (i.e., people who don’t have Nielsen boxes). My local newspaper had some letters to the editor decrying this practice as an invasion of privacy, but I doubt such complaints kept my cable company from welcoming Nielsen’s deal.

    • contessa says:

      I think you are correct. The ratings for NY didn’t pull it in this season. I know this will be unpopular, but I think Jill would be an improvement over Adiva and that is not saying much.

      • Contessa….if the rumors are true that JZ has been in Aviva’s ear all season, my fear is they will bring her and Aviva back as each others sidekick. That would really ruin it for me!

        • contessa says:

          In the words of Ramona – upset stomach = D (too icky to type in the am)

        • 2Stupid says:

          I hope people don’t forget about all the antics Jill pulled behind the scenes. She would have blind items put in the post. She set Bethenny up, and tried to make Ramona look bad in front of her daughter. She is not someone that can be trusted to help or tell the truth. She only wants what is in it for her. I hope Bravo hasn’t fallen for JZ’s smoke and mirrors.

    • A says:

      I’m going to watch something else at the same time on purpose to avoid any good ratings for jz

  11. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. I didn’t see all of the NY reunion but did watch WWHL w/my girl Vanessa Williams & Rue Paul. I like how the poll had over 60% not accepting Aviva’s apology. And JZ is on tonight. I’ve got to see that, ” why did I get fired?”.

  12. contessa says:

    I enjoyed the NY reunion…these women know how to do it without looking like total idiots. Totally different behavior and intellect. It also seems that the NY women only go for fillers and not heavy duty plastic surgery and are for the most appropriately dressed.

    Adiva needs to go away. I cannot believe she pulled the accident card out again. I am very sorry she went through a horrendous thing as a child, however we have heard it on the program ad-nauseum. Enough is enough, and it will not excuse her bad behavior. She has continued to bash Ramonja all over the place. Adiva is a spoiled, entitled narcissist. I have an aversion to flying, but I do it. However if I had been on that small plane, I would have been lit from Xanax and coming off that plane looking like I was rag doll from anesthisizing myself. Adiva your excuses don’t cut it all – grow up and go away. You are not doing any favors for children/adults that have lost limbs. JMHO. XX00

  13. Powell says:

    Wow that was a very nice tribute to Lynn. I’m sure it just made her family smile. God bless you Lynn.

    • amalfi says:

      I read that when butter posted it last night. It was sweet and she is missed.

      • contessa says:

        Yes it was a beautiful tribute to Lynn, long overdue for all she accomplished. Sun Times is the biggest paper, along with the Tribune in Chicago.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I agree. I hope it did make her family smile. R.I.P., Lynn.

  14. OK….first, beautiful tribute to Lynn. Waving, we miss you!!

    Now to NY: such a different dynamic than NJ and I enjoyed watching. They all got to say their piece without hammering each other. I liked that they called each other out on their behavior or things they said…but then moved on to the next thing. Carol looked like she had fillers in her face, she did not look as gaunt, but LuLu’s eyes looked really small for some reason. Was it just me? I kept looking at them and wondering what work she had done.

    Now…..I need to address Aviva…..because I was very bothered by what she had to say. She spent the entire season obsessing about her “phobias” and putting them front and center as reasons why she did not do things or could not be alone, etc, etc. You all know. So…when she said last night that her phobias “weren’t that bad and were only about heights and flying”, I about choked. When LuLu made the comment that her “phobias had expired”…and Aviva AGREED with her (albeit jokingly), that upset me.

    I work with people with phobias. They DO NOT expire and go away at whim. For her to do/say this is very irresponsible and hurtful to people that sincerely have real phobias. They can be very debilitating and affect peoples lives, in truth (not make believe like Aviva). It takes a great deal of courage and hard work and willingness to get through them and change their lives, and some people are never able to get over them. They learn to live with them and succeed at that.

    One woman I worked with could not leave her house, even to go into her backyard. Her phobia stemmed from an incident (just like Aviva) that, once we identified it, we began to work on it. After about 3 months of weekly (hypnosis) sessions, she called me one day and said, guess where I am. I asked where…and she said, out in my backyard under a clear blue sky barbecuing. She had not been able to do that in years. I got off the phone and burst into tears I was so happy for her.

    To trivialize this issue, as Aviva has, got my blood boiling a bit. Ramona is right….she needs a new therapist if, after 30 years, she has still not worked through her phobias or learned to live a full life “with” them, which is what she has claimed all season she can’t do. Whats more…I think she “uses” that to hold onto her victim and “I am up here, you are down there” platform….and it is deplorable.

    Ok….mini rant done! LOL! I am verging on a “Detox length” post here (love them & you Detox!), so I will wrap it up. I just wanted to do a bit of my own calling out on Aviva’s despicable behavior. Nuff said!

    Love and Hugs and Best Wishes for a lovely day to everyone! You are all awesome! 🙂

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Aviva strikes me as someone who is trying to portray a person w/phobias and doing a very bad job of it.

    • melthehound says:

      I’m guessing, Mardrag, that this woman who couldn’t leave her house would not have and still wouldn’t, in a million years, go on to a Reality show. I’m so sick of Aviva, her ‘phobias’, and her leg that I want to introduce her to a new way of carrying it by telling her to put all of it where the sun doesn’t shine.

    • PJ says:

      I don’t want to trivialize anyone’s phobias but Aviva’s seem to be somewhat self serving to me, it’s like she uses them to keep all the attention focused on her. Not to mention that they don’t really stop her from doing anything she wants to do only the things she doesn’t want to do, at least as far as we’ve seen on the show that is.

      • There is a difference between phobias and fears….a marked difference. I absolutely believe Aviva has deep rooted fears that hinder her life, and I feel for her about that, my heart goes out to her. She has been through a horrendous incident that has to have been very difficult to deal with. But to call them phobias….which actually keep you from doing things at all… a misrepresentation.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I love you too, Mardrag, and I read EVERY word (length BE DAMNED!).

      I totally agree with you. I have said it before, and I will say it again: Aviva uses her panic disorder and phobias to manipulate people and to get her way.

      I do not doubt that she MAY have some type of anxiety issues, but I think her REAL problem is a PERSONALITY DISORDER (Take your pick. I still think she is B.P.D. My B.P.D. Aunt tries to use alleged anxieties and panic disorders to manipulate certain members of my family, but my Mom REFUSES to play that B.S. with her. She calls her out on it; refuses to give her her way; and tells her to knock it off OR my Mom will REFUSE to do whatever favor my Aunt is DEMANDING at that moment. Suddenly, she’s all better, and she gets what she wants from my Mom. My B.P.D. Aunt also has a “mysterious” way of getting over her anxiety and phobias when it comes to going to anybody’s party or taking advantage of FREE FULLY PAID TRIPS offered to her by relatives of ours that live out-of-state).

      Like you, Mardrag, I think Aviva is DEFINITELY doing a disservice to people who REALLY suffer from these conditions and want so badly to — NOT get any ATTENTION for them (because they are embarrassed) — but, instead, to be able to FULLY live their lives without the anxiety and burden they feel they are to their friends and family members because of it.

      • Applauding. You nailed it Detox…..people with real phobias can not make them come & go to suit what they want to do. And, they are embarrassed by them, not trying to garner attention by constantly talking about them.

        I wish these women (I know, not likely!) would take some personal responsibility for the fabricated nonsense they put out there and how it may affect others. They are supposed to be using this platform for charity, etc. purposes…but they fail miserably at it.

        (((((Detox))))) I read your every word too! You slay me with your humor girl! Hugs!

  15. plainviewsue says:

    How nice to watch a reunion without your heart beating a mile a minute & feeling dirty afterwards from watching it!

    I absolutely loved every minute of the NY reunion. I thought they all looked stunning. Ramona was sick that day and still more than held her own!

    Heather impresses me more and more. I like that she and Carole were critical of Aviva, even though they are good friends. So nice to actually hear people talk and not scream like raging lunatics.

    We all know why Aviva apologized. If she learned anything positive from this experience, then let’s move on.

    Lulu in the hot seat; loved it!! But she did hold her own. I think Carole was shocked that there was anything negative towards her. Soooooooooooooo curious what happened between Ramona & Andy!!!

    As for the beautiful blog that Teresa wrote about her niece, responsing to Mel’s accusation that Tre called Antonia ugly, Melissa is just about the worst, most disgusting excuse of a mother there is. Say what you want to about Teresa, but for Melissa to tweet that Teresa wrote that blog cos everything is all about her, AFTER she blasted her nieces on national tv that her children are too good to be in school with them?????

    Now JoeGo is tweeting that a spinoff is in the works for them, which I do not believe at all. I cannot wait for NJ to end. If this entire cast is invited back, I will never watch again.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      A spin off – lol – Bravo won’t waste their money on those losers. I imagine they spend every waking moment spinning delusional scenerios and congratulating themselves on their celebrity.

    • PJ says:

      I feel Melissa is a horrible, horrible person but I also feel that JoGo is just as bad, selling out his sister for a few dollars. A spinoff sure yeah right maybe a salad spinner,

      • LaineyLainey says:

        i AGREE with you and bluey – – – Joego is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Bring out the whole herd of sheep cause he is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..d. Bad brother, bad son, bad dancer, bad toe sucker, bad uncle, bad at returning tools, bad after a therapy session ……bring out the sheep! all together 1, 2, 3…he is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….d.

        • PJ says:

          JoGo likes to downplay the not returning tools as nothing but not returning tools is a big deal, just ask anyone in the trades how they feel about people who borrow tools and don’t return them. It just shows the kind of person he is.

          • princesspindy says:

            PJ, I completely agree!!! Tools are expensive and if you are on the job or in the middle of a project and you don’t have the proper tool because some immature idiot didn’t bother to return them, you have to stop what you are doing, go to the store to get the correct tool/s and it is expensive, time wasting and frustrating. I have stopped loaning tools because of this very reason!!

            • PP… I hear ya about tools… and as everybody knows.. REAL contractors / subs NEVER ask to borrow tools… you had better show up to the jobsite with TOOLS , or you dont work for the day..
              Mr ford still has all his original plumbing tools he bought some 40 years ago…even PITA is not allowed to “borrow” them…

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Yeah, they all laughed at him that time at chris lurkita’s house, remember? When he mentioned it. The fishmonger was ringleader belittling JoeGui for being upset that JoeGo borrowed tools that he never returned. I too feel that it’s a legitimate beef, all things considered.

                • princesspindy says:

                  It shows little Joey Gorga as the little brother. Too young and immature to do the right thing. I was taught to leave a place cleaner than you found it (camping) and if you did borrow something (Heaven forbid!) you returned it in as good, or better condition. And if you broke it, you replaced it. It ain’t rocket surgery!

                • PJ says:

                  I think Joe Guidice has helped them all and they are all ungrateful.

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    Yeah, I picked up on that. Tre has tried to say, Joe helped you…and they laugh at her. It’s not attractive.

              • PJ says:

                I don’t know about plumbers but respecting carpentry contractors that isn’t necessarily true that they are never asked to loan out their tools it happens all the time.

    • Hmmm Andy is in love with them, especially JoGo. Andy just might be thinking about it. If there is a spin-off, that will be the result of them kissing up to Andy. Closet__Freak in the video above thinks that JoGo swings both ways, or whatever direction the wind is blowing. I think she’s right.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I loved the RHONY Reunion too. Like you, I MOSTLY loved the fact that I did not feel like I needed a shower afterward the way I did with Parts 1 & 2 of RHONJ.

      Comparing the 2 shows and the women on the 2 shows is like comparing apples and oranges. It is like they don’t even come from the same PLANET!

  16. noreen7 says:

    I loved the NY reunion show last night; the girls stated their piece without going overboard. Personally, I would not accept Aviva’s apology either. Or I would have cautiously accepted saying it doesn’t mean a thing if your actions and attitude do not change. I think the Luann/designer thing was blown way out of proportion by Carole. She does not like Luann and anything Luann says or does would piss Carole off. It seems as if Carole thinks she is too good to be on RHNY, yet there she is, sitting on the couch. I’m hardly a fan of Luann, but Carole’s holier than thou attitude was worse for me to watch. Overall, I think they all did well, much better than last year’s hate fest.

    • noreen7 says:

      And frankly, if Life and Style is not good enough for Carole’s designer friend, I can’t imagine what a horror it must be to be on RHNY to support Carole.

  17. lizzle says:

    Good morning! Thanks everyone for the reading material this morning… loved it all!

    Last night I was at CVS and they had a SkinnyGirl Wine display. I almost bought some Sangria, but it didn’t have a price and the guy at the counter didn’t know the price off-hand. It actually discouraged me from buying. I know I could have brought it over for him to scan, but with two kids in tow… that is too much extra work for finding out how much it costs. Does anyone know how much SkinnyGirl wine costs? Just curious this morning.

    Diva… I hope everything is OK with Mr Ford.. I haven’t been able to read through all the comments but am keeping you in my positive thoughts.

    I got to run again… I haven’t had much time to comment lately.

    • When i bought a bottle of the white wine I believe it cost roughly $18.00 or so per bottle. I’m in NY if that gives you an idea…..

      • Thank you OWRH! Funny how it first occurred to me to ask as opposed to look it up on-line. This blog is an enabler… I always tell the kids to look with their eyes and not their mouths (we joke about it… not in a mean way)… and here I am… asking before researching. Anywho.. $14-$18 is too much for me… for a mediocre wine (that’s kind of how B describes it)… And, I read in the Wine Spectator that most wines are about 100 calories per 5oz… but SkinnyGirl is the first (or one of the first… can’t remember) to market it as low-calorie… which is smart and in synch with B’s brand.

        How did you like the wine?

        • The wine was ok….I really wasn’t a huge fan because I like dry white wine like sauvignon blanc and hers was more akin to a chardonnay to me and it had a tang to it I just didn’t like. A regular glass of white is 120 calories so for the extra 20 calories I’ll stick to my delicious Sauvignon Blanc, especially when I can get GREAT bottles for that price range!

    • Thanks Lizzle… We are STILL waiting for the results of the echo …!!! DAMN… the waiting is nerve racking for sure !!!!

      NY Reunion… I guess Aviva also suffers from short term memory loss.. has she forgotten that she WROTE she wished that Reid was the REAL father for her son and that SHE was the real Mother for Reids daughter…. !!! What an ignorant statement to make about THE CHILDREN !!!!
      Along with some others , I get that gut feeling that she is FAKING most of her “FAUX-BEE- AS… She will use them as arsenal IF her and reid should ever split…. and of course..Her CHILDREN will never leave home CUZ she NEEDS them….

      When you get to this site.. go to the SEARCH box in the upper right corner..type in Aviva Drescher and read some of the stories… Especially the one from Dec 2011 that was updated in April 2012….

      And I still believe that her marriage to Harrison Dubin was arranged !!!! For the $$$ aspect.. winks
      Sonja KNOWS all about it and thus the reason behind Sonjas words in the kitchen that night in St Barths…the double dealing etc…and the reason why Aviva was asking that Sonja keep the legal stuff to herself and not blab about it in filming..OOPS…. too late
      Aviva.. her devious EBIL plan to hook Sonja with her perv dad backfired on her…she lost that ammo….hahahahahahaha
      More to come later about all this… winks

      hugs and peace

      And YEA ..I’ll admit it.. am “interested” in seeing JZ together with dandyandy…and NO I dont think she will be returning to NY for next season…that BRIDGE is burned…but there is “something” brewing..I just wonder how much it’s costing BWABBBYYYY……

  18. Sasha says:

    I feel asleep by the end of basketball wives but I can see that Jackie is starting back with her big bad intimidation tactics. Draya was her target last season so why not start it up again. I think she sees her as an easy target.

    I would not mind having Jill back on the show. She and Bethenney were good for comic relief when Jill was not being a meanie. Right now there is too much crazy and I can only take so much of a Sonya/Ramona scene when they are drinking.

    I think I am ready for Atlanta. They have the best one liners.

  19. RealHousewifeVA says:

    WHY IS ANDY INTERVIEWING JILL?? Would they really bring her back after all the times he said they never would? Do you think they will mention Lynn? It’s so crazy to me that he’s having a ‘special’ pre-taped solo interview with Jill. Ugh. I think Jill and Simon were in cahoots to keep an eye on the ratings for NY and were living it up when the ratings stayed low.

    Anyway, thanks for the AMAZING blog today everyone!

  20. AZGirl says:

    Thank you BB for the recap of NY Reunion.
    The NY reunion is so much better than NJ. They all discussed the differences without going ape sh#t. They all dress appropriately and light on the make up. So refreshing.

    For some reason I found Ramona’s necklace distracting. Kinda Grey Gardens type of look where eccentric old women wear all their jewelry when they are broke.

    I think this was Lulu’s best season ever. She toned down the countess act and even with the “baby” stuff she was very likable.

    Aviva is nuts. She really is so narcisstic that even her apologies don’t come off well. It is like she is apologizing because it will make HER look better not because she truly is sorry.
    I guess it was the phrase “I am profoundly sorry for the words I used” not “I should have handled myself better and not lose my temper”.

    Sonja was really “on” last night. She set Aviva straight about comparing her ex-husband with Harry. Aviva does not know what is going on with Sonja’s situation and for Aviva to make it like they were fighting the same battle was out of line.

    I think Carole does not take the show or these ladies seriously. To Carole this was a experiment in human behavior. Observing the women interact and taking notes. I do believe that Carole does put herself above Lulu on the “social ladder”.
    The biggest turn around was Heather. I really like her. She knows when to speak up and when to keep quiet.

    As for WWHL with JZ I for one am not going to watch. The fact that Andy even gave this horrid woman any time on Bravo is going to bite him in the ass (via Ginger). The thought of having to listen to that voice and all the BS is just sickening. Bad move Andy. Really bad.

    • Shiny says:

      ” I do believe that Carole does put herself above Lulu on the “social ladder”.”
      I don’t like the ladder, but she’d be correct based on style, friends, past work, etc, even if they both married into part of their ladder position.

      If LuLu lived in any of our towns, we’d all be above her on any real ladders of friends, manners, and social awareness!

    • Orson says:

      Aviva is nuts. She really is so narcisstic that even her apologies don’t come off well. It is like she is apologizing because it will make HER look better not because she truly is sorry.
      I guess it was the phrase “I am profoundly sorry for the words I used” not “I should have handled myself better and not lose my temper”.
      I finally caught this when I read AZGirl’s post. Now it’s obvious to me that Aviva did, in fact, attend Law School. “I am profoundly sorry for the words I used” is not in any way, shape, or form a sincere apology. It’s just an admission by her that she should have rephrased what she said. What she regrets is she revealed that she just spews out racist and elitist comments and she caught flack for that on twitter. She’s just sorry she got caught.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        She is pi$$ed off that she got caught. “Sorry” implies some regret, remorse,…the b is pi$$ed she got caught and even more pi$$ed that she’s been called on it. Very haughty woman, that Aviva. Did you ever see the movie “The Bad Seed”? It’s an oldie but a goodie. Aviva reminds me of the kid from that movie.

  21. Shiny says:

    I’m still a Carole fan, and I really enjoyed her solo interview comments because they cracked me up and were so often exactly what I was thinking (less articulately).

    She often did let LuLu know what she thought very clearly, it’s just that LuLu was too dense to pick up on the message:
    1. Exaggerating which teams Carole had been on by adding another more absurd team every time LuLu did. Everyone else at the table got the point about LuLu one-upping constantly

    2. Carole said at reunion that LuLu texted twice! about getting earrings from the designer wholesale, and Carole DIDN’T RESPOND TO THE TEXTS. That means NO. But dense LuLu then called and left a message about it, pushing and pushing, so Carole finally felt she had to respond and give LuLu the access. Normal people would have dropped it.

    3. Carole directly told LuLu in the store how she felt about LuLu requesting to wear her designer friend’s gowns, but LuLu didn’t really get it. Go for earrings at bargain price and then ask for more favors??

    4. LuLu tells her “version” of the gown request, but won’t let Carole relay what the designer’s wife said about the meeting with LuLu. Hmmm, whose version would you believe: LuLu trying to justify herself (when we know how she changes the truth over and over in her versions) or Carole’s friend who was very taken-aback by LuLu’s pushiness?

    LuLu doesn’t even want to hear anything negative that is said about her, so who would bother trying to tell her to her face. And Heather even said it to LuLu at the reunion, and LuLu still argued.

    • Called A Princess... says:

      LuLu uses other peoples decency against them. Polite people do not want to correct another adults bad behavior. LuLu gives you no choice in the matter and then refuses to hear it. She is stubborn and immature. JMHO.

  22. Butter'sMom says:

    I haven’t had a chance to read much in the comments lately, just the blog. So I don’t know if anyone has said what I’m about to say. Jill on WWHL makes me uneasy for a completely different reason than that I am afraid she’ll be back on RHONY. I am afraid she will mention Lynn somehow as a way to get us all on her side. We were all kinda pissed that Andy never said something on WWHL and we know she reads this blog. If she mentions Lynn in anyway I think my head will explode.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      ((( Butter’s Mom ))) It would sicken me too. And Jill would do it if she thought it would get her ratings or a mention anywhere.

  23. rabblerouser2010R says:

    If anyone gets a chance check out my twitter time line, Melissa replied to me about her tweet complaining that Teresa wrote a blog about Antonia (re the ugly remark). A few other tweeters also commented to her off my tweet.

  24. Butters'Mom says:

    My first comment went to moderation. Maybe because I spelled my name wrong? If this goes into moderation it must be because I’m using a different computer. I apologize in advance if it gets duplicated.

    Here it is:

    I haven’t had a chance to read much in the comments lately, just the blog. So I don’t know if anyone has said what I’m about to say. Jill on WWHL makes me uneasy for a completely different reason than that I am afraid she’ll be back on RHONY. I am afraid she will mention Lynn somehow as a way to get us all on her side. We were all kinda pissed that Andy never said something on WWHL and we know she reads this blog. If she mentions Lynn in anyway I think my head will explode.

    • amalfi says:


    • Pghemtchick says:

      Jill is dense enough to believe that Lynn’s passing (Rip/may God bless your soul,Lynn) is the opening she needs. “Andy, look! The haters are gone, buy my squwedgies”. She needs to watch her tongue cause I’m sure many if not all here will take up the Ihjz mantra to defend Lynn’s honor.

  25. WindyCityWondering says:

    That first nasally whine on the promo for WWHL with JZ hit me like a gut punch! Can’t watch her or listen to her but am secretly very pleased to see the Jackhole Andy whore himself out for ratings this way.

    • catmom1 says:

      Same here. The sounds of her voice are worse than nails on a chalkboard for me. Causes a very negative visceral reaction. Pavlov had nothing compared to JZ’s voice.

  26. Maryla says:

    Thanks BB for the recap – great job. I think Aviva’s PR people were in her ear about what to SAY but didn’t coach her eyeballs not to reveal her true feelings. I thought there were a few times when she just looked steely cold. Ice queen. Bitter ice queen. She is clearly on the Aviva Drescher 2012 Redemption Tour, but I’m not sure if people will be willing to buy it when she reveals herself.

    I think part of it is that nobody has ever successfully told her no. What a shame to be so overindulged. You can’t grow as a person when everyone is telling you how right you are all the time.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      great point, about nobody can coach her eyes not to reveal who she really is and how she really feels But somebody did coach her on what to say.

  27. Pghemtchick says:

    A Juicy Jersey thought:

    As much as Bravo really loves to throw people under the bus/call them out, they sure missed an opportunity with Juicy Joe’s alleged cheating. Joe says it’s his friend Albie and a Spanish speaking pizza employee.. My question is who’s pizza employee? Guissepi’s Pizzaria was sold (unknown date as I haven’t found it yet-online reviews suggest between July-Nov. November reviews discuss new owners). Now, the real Bravo editing. Episode 2 of this season, both Joe and Teresa say he “got rid of it” (around the 5:46 mark ) so which is it? Was Joe on the phone w/ pizza employee who really wasn’t an employee? Or is it all a rouse? Who knows just some food for thought.

    Also quick comment on schools. A quick search w/o property addresses does show that the first high school listed for Teresa and Melissa are the same “Monteville Schools”. Unless Tre is shipping her kids to Frankin Lakes since she doesn’t live there. I took some hear on twitter, but I stand by my comment in support. My siblings and I all graduated from different high schools. My mother chose to send me an hour each way via bus to private Catholic school instead of going to the high school less than 2 miles away w/my cousins. Everyone has a reason, and while it wasn’t said the most tactful, I can see Mel not wanting to send Antonia to school w/Tre’s girls. It has NOTHING to do w/the girls and everything to do w/ the other kids IMO. Gia is already bullied/harassed. Could you imagine if both sides of the tv fued were represented? Quick solution get off tv-that goes for both since Tre has ignored Gia’s comments. “Anyone can be a parent, but a true parent willingly puts aside their own selfish desires for their child”-some pinterest thing.

    • amalfi says:

      He was talking to his girlfriend and everyone knows it. lol… I think trying to make him admit it would be a waste of air.

      • The one thing I noticed about tre and joe..when he was “singing” the praises about how wonderful his wife was, a good mother etc… why did tre have such s long sourpuss look on her face, like she was not buying a word of what he was saying.. I know that when mr ford sings my praises I look at him with love in my eyes.. a big smile on my face .. and I then give him a HUGE HUG tell him THANK YOU …I LOVE YOU and extend a compliment back to him…
        BTW.. My husband has NEVER called me the c word nor would he even consider calling me the C word because he values and respects ME and our marriage… and also because he considers his “boys” to be important to his existence…winks
        But I guess all is forgiven and accepted by tre because she got BLING ….I am sure the subs they stiffed for the construction of that tacky parlor they call home were just tickled to see that…I’d be running to the Court House ASAP to file for garnishment for my monies owed..or at least forcing payment on the judgement….


        • Lady Chatterley says:

          And Jac was smiling broadly, like she was in on the joke. Don’t know what that was about…

    • amalfi says:

      And Melissa and Joey can and should send their daughter to whatever school for whatever reason (even if it is to keep her away from her cousins). They are her parents, and that is their right.

      The kerfluffle is Melissa implying that is why they are selling their house. Ummm… wrong. You can’t afford it. Using your kid as an excuse is gross, but par for the course… for all of them, not just the Gorgas.

      • not THAT Jill says:

        Saying that at the reunion was just a chance for Melissa to say to the viewers that Teresa is so awful she has to move her children away. They will not be in high school for a number of years so the point right now is moot. She is acting like they are together in school today and she must get them away NOW!!

      • kit9 says:

        It’s an absolutely valid concern. I didn’t realize they went to the same school. T’s kids are already spouting(even the very very young ones)nasty on Melissa, can you imagine what they’ll be like after 10 years of their mother Teresa pouring hate down their throats? I really feel sorry for them. They will eventually see their mother for the insane, vicious liar she is but it will be years before that happens. And, I have to choke hearing Teresa’s bs blog about how her nieces/nephews are ‘blood’ and how she’ll love them no matter what. Right! Cause that’s really made a difference to her in the past.

        Didn’t stop her from trying to damage Rosie and Kathy’s relationship with her lies(which she continues to do). Didn’t stop her from punishing those very nephews and nieces in her war against Melissa and her brother….not getting them gifts for their birthday(‘Melissa didn’t invite me for cake!’ Oh well, screw my nephew, then!) and not bothering to show up to their baptism…(remember, Teresa only showed up for photos afterward and to make her congrats on and to camera, phony that she is) And, of course, calling a darling little girl, ‘ugly’. If anyone buy T’s denials, I have a mountain of Teresa lies to show you. A literal mountain. Teresa hasn’t shied from taking her hate for Melissa out on Mel’s kids, so I put nothing past her..probably seeing her as a Melissa mini-me. Delusional T probably thinks Antonia is copying her, too.

        • PJ says:

          We have the word of Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa and Kathy these bastions of truth and virtue that all that is true.

          Even if that is a valid concern which I don’t believe for one second, to actually say that on national TV is a horrible thing to do. I can’t even imagine what kind of person would throw children under a bus like that. These children don’t even go to the same school.

        • not THAT Jill says:

          Kit9…you may have a mountain of Teresa lies but this one lie-this whole moving b/c of the kids being in school together-in another 10 YEARS-this lie belong solely to Melissa.
          If she truly wanted to make sure her kids were “safe” from Teresa’s little terrors why doesn’t she leave the show and have zero dealings with Teresa? Why worry about what COULD happen in 10 years-why not worry about what could happen next season?

          • PJ says:


          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Also, I don’t know if any of you remember the discussion we had on this blog about how, when people usually begin an answer to a question with, “In all HONESTY” or “HONESTLY,” studies have shown that the person is about to LIE? (And don’t nobody ask me for no d*mned studies!! [Yes, I know I just used a double negative/improper grammar. I know how to say it correctly. I just didn’t FEEL like it. *Shrug*] because I want to watch “Dexter” at 10 o’clock before the free “Showtime” that my CHEAP father got DirecTV to give him “just because I’ve been a loyal customer for all these years” before it ends on 10/23).

            Anyhoo, we did have that discussion, and if I recall correctly, when Andy asked Melissa why she was REALLY moving from her home, she started her answer with “Honestly….” (In the words of Closet Freak, “YOU’SE A LIE, Melissa!!! YOU’SE A LIE!!!” You are not moving because you don’t want Antonia to go to school with her cousins. You are moving because you guys cannot — and probably never could — AFFORD to live there!).

            • LaineyLainey says:

              So true, about prefacing your sentence with “Honestly?”… ha ha. Also, when someone starts with …”No offense, but….” or “I don’t mean to offend anyone but, ,…” I can’t help it but I brace myself and i tell myself: “Oh my, I’m about to get all offended.” haha!! Usually the person is actually well-intentioned, but someone in the group will most likely get offended even if it’s just a lil bit.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      The might have the same highschool, but that is years off. Antonia just started kindergarten or maybe it was grade one.

      I think the age group of the younger kids is somewhat sheltered from the fall out of Bravo, it’s the when kids get older I would worry.

      • Nancy says:

        What Melissa said about why she is selling their house was despicable.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I agree. Some things can NEVER be taken back. I mean, even if Teresa and Joey do somehow resolve things, Teresa’s girls will ALWAYS know that Melissa did not want their cousin Antonia to associate with “the likes” of them, as if Antonia is TOO GOOD for the Giudice children.

          And, like Closet Freak said, if Melissa is worried about Milania kicking Antonia’s a*s for some reason (because it was implied that it was MILANIA to whom she was referring), Milania can do that at a family event. They do not have to be at the same school for Milania to do that.

          Melissa’s reason was not only a damned LIE (They simply cannot afford that house, and they couldn’t when they decided to “fake the funk” for the RHONJ cameras.), it also gives her ANOTHER way to manipulate Joey into keeping him away from, not only Teresa, but her CHILDREN too (She’s basically saying, “Joey, I no longer want OUR kids associating with Teresa’s kids.” What kinda EVIL, HATEFUL B.S. is that?).

          • PJ says:

            I don’t think Melissa did herself a favor in saying that because it pointed out what a liar she is and what a snake she is. Melissa would have been better off keeping her mouth shut or better yet telling the *gasp* truth!

      • Orson says:

        Gia will be years ahead of her siblings and cousins. On the other hand, Gabriella, Melania, and Antonia would probably attend the same Jr High/Middle School and High School pretty much the same time.

    • Donna says:

      MehooHaa is moving because of Teresa’s girls? I always said there is chit and bullchit, this a big pile of chitty bullchit.

  28. not THAT Jill says:

    “I do agree Aviva needs therapy and to get to know herself and get over her trauma. She speaks of the dad telling her to keep screaming and she kind of still is”
    Mama (lovemamaearth) posted this above…it is so true-she is screaming her head off. I wish she was more in tune with herself. Im not sure she knows what the hell she is screaming about at this point!!!!

    • amalfi says:

      Herbert the Pervert is not a good dad. And at 41, your daddy can’t save you. And he shouldn’t be telling you that you’re hot and he’d do you if you weren’t his daughter. And never ever say “incest is best” even if you are quoting Rocky Horror Picture Show as a joke. (Yes, he did this on camera.)

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I don’t think it matters. Screaming for her has become habit. I pity her plight rather than hate it or judge her. I’ve been wondering how I’d deal with her if she was in my family.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Just thank your lucky stars that you do not have an “Aviva” in your family, LME. I do, and believe me, it is NO picnic! Our “Aviva” has affected us ALL in some kind of negative way. Oh, we still LOVE her because she is “family,” and because she is a child of God.

        We just want to STRANGLE her at times. That’s all. No biggie.

        Instead of strangling her, however, we still see about her and make sure she is taken care of because that’s what family does, I guess.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I suppose. Equally frustrating is the snob or the clam or the bad weather fam/friend.

          Am I the only one not hating on Aviva?

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            No, I think CAP likes and/or sympathizes with her. I don’t want to speak for him, though (even though I just DID. *Shrug*).

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Yes, Detox is right, CAP seems to see her as a human being.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              LOL, I am going to write that I see her as a character. I think that production knew the show was boring and she decided to be the heavy. She took the role very seriously and is not a very good actress. The repeat of the leg story and her phobias did not ring very true to me. The story line sounded scripted and not base on real motivations. Smells like Bravo and production intervention and I get tired of both. I feel like I am steering a car on black ice with bald tires when I watch some of these characters try to act real. Adiva is not playing a likable character and I do not like her very well. Their are two I liked much less this season on NYC. Because she is new, I have decided to give her somewhat of a chance at redemption. I think she is unstable and should be off the show, but Andy does not care about doing the right thing. JMHO.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                You have written about her with more compassion than most of us. You also liked Heather when most of us did not.

  29. chismosa says:

    Forgive me if this was all discussed above, still catching up:

    Ny housewives reunion

    Carole complaining she was already cold – you weigh 75 lbs that’s why you’re cold!

    I found it very interesting /telling, whatever that in when they showed the clip of Aviva calling the ladies white trash, they showed Aviva on the couch and her expression spoke volumes. She was smirking bit looking like was desperately trying to not how it. She LOVED calling them WT

    When Ramona and Sonja were answering back (amazingly!) to Advil did anyone else catch the camera go back to Aviva and she had no lipstick on. It’s at the exact
    time Sonja said “lies lies lies”. Avivas makeup is completely different, yet the voice track and continuity seem to be correct. Doesn’t seem spliced up Bravo-edit/ style. Odd.

    Then later her lipstick was completely different when Andy asked Ramona if she accepted A’s apology. What is going on with the editing and Aviva’s makeup? And then at the very end when Ramona told her she needs a good therapist, once again, no lipstick in the next shot. I mean, don’t they have continuity men for reality tv productions like they do for movies? Maybe something happened during these exchanges where Aviva reacted badly and wanted to reshoot ?? Very very fishy

    Aviva showed ZERO REMORSE or empathy during the entire reunion. She was 200% opposite of the warm lady she was when she first appeared on screen this season. Bitch!

    Usually at reunions I despise when the women talk under their breath at someone else who’s about to speak or is speaking but I LOVED Sonja’s under-her-breaths at Aviva. A+++++++. Hysterical and oh so right.

    And is “you don’t want to go there / Don’t go there!”the new way to trick viewers into thinking you may have some extra dirt about that other person when in reality you don’t?
    I don’t care what Lu can insinuate to viewers about Ramona all she wants. Viewers saw Ramona in Scary Island w the Hooters boat, etc. we know Ramona. Your stupid desperate tricks don’t fool anyone Lu

    Oooh does Andy piss off Ramona next week? Looks good. Team Ram all the way, she handled herself stupendously last night.

    Lu’s dress was a nice departure from her usual hubcap accompaniments BUT it reminded me too much of a Kelly B dress. Kelly used to wear dresses like that all the time.

    PLEASE GOD LET THE END OF DAYS NOT COME WITH JILL. Are people voraciously tweeting at Andy about this??? I also had nightmares last night about this n

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I love this comment. I laughed when you said Carole weighs 75 pounds!

      BTW, Chismosa, you are going to have to give me some of your astrology knowledge one of these days when you’re not too busy. Astrology used to be an interest/hobby of mine before I smoked the “Real Housewives” “crack pipe” and “sold” many other interests to “pay” for my RH “crack pipe HITS.” *Shrug*

  30. Pghemtchick says:

    Overall, loved the reunion. There was one comment that really really irked me tho. Mr. Andy’s comment after Aviva told her story for the umteenth time. Without replaying it, it was something along the lines of ‘Thank you Aviva, maybe knowing your story will help change people’s opinions about you’. To which I tweeted : @Pghemtchick: @BravoAndy Aviva’s leg has nothing to do with people’s opinions of her. Her piss poor all about me/kiss my ass attitude does.

    How dare him suggest that we viewers dislike or like someone based on the number of limbs they have or their traumas. Just because she lost her foot in an accident then had the leg removed like 15+ years later doesn’t mean we should automatically fawn over her. Sorry DandyAndy, an asshole is an asshole even if it has one leg.

  31. princesspindy says:

    Carole, you had me at “hello”, you lost me at buttf*ck”

  32. Nancy says:

    I wonder if it would help if all of us e-mail Bravo re: bringing Jill Zarin back?
    IF she does come back we should rename the Blog…I HATE JILL ZARIN!

    • noreen7 says:

      Agreed! Or “I STILL HATE JILL ZARIN.”

    • Kat from Ohio says:

      honestly, after lynn died, i sort of thought how petty “hating” jill z really is. life is too short. why can’t we have our blog without focusing so much on the negative… not that this has ever been a space for people to bully, but i do agree to an extent that having the blog feature the word “hate” sends the wrong idea about what we’re about. better focus on “family” than hold onto “hate” imo.

      • Kat… I agree.. and I also feel it would be disrespectful to Lynn’s memory to bring back that blog name seeing how she “retired” it and moved forward…

        • princesspindy says:

          I concur!

        • chismosa says:

          i’m sorry i don’t remember the timeline but when exactly did Lynn decide to change the name of the blog? Was Jill still on NYH? Because if Lynn changed it AFTER the witch was fired, then i think we SHOULD bring back “IHJZ–The Sequel/ The Revenge”. I was here all along when everything was happening but i’m sorry i can’t quite remember the timeline.

          The actual person that brought everyone together WAS Lynn but the essence, the BEING that led Lynn to create her wonderful place WAS Jill. i.e. IHJZ lives on for me, at least, forever.
          To be subjected to this witchcraft once again, to listen to this voice ONCE AGAIN on Bravo… this to me at least, changes all the rules. JMHO

      • lovemamaearth says:

        Good point. It would probably have happened by now if JZ had disappeared from our view. But she’s like a bad penny. Plus the hating seems to have swung to Aviva.

      • Nancy says:

        I wasn’t being serious. 🙂

  33. Nancy says:

    Jerry Sandusky got 30-60 years so he will die in prison.

  34. Cathy says:

    Please everyone pray, with me that that woman does not talk about my sister tonite ! Sincerly Cathy

    • contessa says:

      Cathy, I don’t think that woman will go there. She will not want to bring all the bad press she had for her behavior out again into public. XXOO

    • melthehound says:

      I think the best thing anyone can do for your sister (and everyone else for that matter) is completely ignore that hellhound. I know that’s not likely to happen but it would be best for all involved, except the hellhound.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      O.K., Cathy! Your request is now on my prayer list.

  35. princesspindy says:

    So after watching the reunion 3 times, yes 3, but the last time I blame on Stars…. Anyhoo, after watching it 3 times, I think Aviva was medicated. I also think she looked like shit. I also think that it was amazing that she showed up, given her anxiety issues. It was a major accomplishment and I am serious about that. (I so want to snark about banners, etc.) I agree with Ramona when she said that she back peddled only AFTER she saw the negative response. And after last night I realized I didn’t know she only had one leg, I was shocked, shocked I tell you. If only she had mentioned it during the season. In a farming accident you say?? Wow, I think that would have been nice to know at the beginning of the season.
    And the LuAnn just make me uncomfortable. She just never looks clean to me. I don’t know how to explain it but she grosses me out.
    I thought Sonja looked great!
    Heather, I like her, I really, really like her. I didn’t, but I pick up what she is putting down.
    Carole, well, I already said all I have to say about her.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      I think Aviva looked great. Maybe a little too much blush. I don’t like the slip style dresses like Lu had on and Ram’s dress was just ok otherwise they all looked great I thought.

      • princesspindy says:

        LME, LOL!! I thought she looked really pale. That is so funny. I think she looked really good in the photos that I saw before the reunion. I keep thinking she needed just a little bronzer.
        I am serious that I give her a lot of credit for showing up. It was pretty brutal but I think that it wasn’t unfair, since they were just pointing out her behavior. I think she is a lot stronger than she gives herself credit. (for)<======= incorrect use of a preposition

        • Called A Princess... says:

          She does look medicated and the dress color does wash her out. I still think Adiva played a role, most of the season. She did not play it well but she did bring some drama. IMO.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Bronzer might be nice. I’ve seen it used too often where I could see where it was. Like I said I sit here in my jeans and tee shirt and probably too pale make up. Ah well. 🙂

          It was brutal for her. Being medicated would be smart on her part.

          I do think Aviva finally gets how bad she behaved and is sorry. I think it’s shabby to not accept a public apology as Somoanja refused to do.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            Well shabby is a good word to describe Ramona and Sonja and how they choose to treat other people at times. Very dismissive in an aggressive manner. JMHO.

  36. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Hello All. Yesturday was a day where there was alot of commenting re: Majority/Minority participation on the blog. We spoke about everyone’s TRUTH being different and agreeing that we all base our opinions on what is shown and perception. In one of my posts I referred to TreFans as the TreMob+10, and was told it was disrespectful even though some refer to themselves as TreHuggers, Tre’sFlyingMonkeys etc. I know it’s a case of I can do it, but not you. LOL LaineyLainey, a great poster here, went on to say that the minority call the majority names in order to feel powerful and that it takes away from one’s truth. She also said it could be used to incite tempers, to get attention. Um yeah, but no, yeah but NO! I post to get my thoughts out. I read so many offensive comments that have me SMH and I just ignore them yet others seem to love those comments and jump into the fray. I don’t need to say everything that is on my mind, by not doing that i’m doing my part to keep it civil.

    When I mentioned the TreMob it was explaining how SOME felt when they post and are accosted by TreFans. Of course TreFans don’t see it that way and just believe that NonTreFans can dish it but can’t take it. They don’t seem to realize that one thing is to post a dissenting opinion another is to question a poster to the point where one feels the attack is now personal even though we don’t even know these people! It’s not my job to defend any HWs honor. I post what I feel and welcome any response, but I don’t want to have to defend my POV because someone decided I have to. We’re supposed to have fun here, not raise our blood pressures. LOL

    One thing that Lainey forgot to mention, because I would NEVER try to tell someone how to post , is that the cliques must be careful with their responses when some feel overwhelmed and decide to take off. Too many times, lately, i’ve seen the most cold-hearted comments coming from LynnFam posters. Someone feels insulted and makes the announcement they’re leaving and people start laughing, mocking and cruelly saying goodbye. Since when is this the way this blog works? So many of the “InCrowd” have also ‘LEFT’ and returned but they weren’t mocked. That was when Lynn was alive. She would never have allowed any poster, NOT A TROLL, to be humiliated that way. When she was here people would immediately say ‘don’t go’, or ‘take a break and come back’, not given the good riddance speech. Some may think this is funny. I don’t . I’ve been here for years and know that people come to this blog for fun and escapism. Many are sick, homebound, caregivers for the sick and elderly and may see this blog as a respite from their REALITY. Maybe they enjoyed being part of the “LynnFam” and want to be here to chat and discuss the shows, but to make them feel as if they’re a joke and unwelcomed will probably prevent them from returning. Also, I feel this may also dissuade lurkers from posting, especially if they don’t have the same views. To them I say POST. Many groups have ‘ruled’ the LynnBlogs in the past and are here today and gone tomorrow.

    This post was not done to incite anger or disrupt the blog. Not done for attention either although I do want it read. LOL It’s just the way I feel and not trying to be holier than thou. Just Holy. 🙂


    • Amber, I tried posting yesterday but I think my Ipad was having problems. I was trying to post to say thank you for posting what was on that particular board not the popular opinion at the time. I tend to joke around and say that I am the head of the anti-Teresa brigade because I feel like I am in the minority in that I am not a fan of hers (to say the least) and am one of the few to vocally assert that on the lynnfam board. I am happy to post about any housewife when I have an opinion that may or may not fall in line with what the majority of the posts are indicating on that day. I will say that I think we are all educated, intelligent people who can discuss our opinions without making anyone feel bad about themselves or incite a riot. We all are passionate about our feelings, I certainly am about a few housewives however, it can be very easy to get carried away and begin attacking one another. I personally never felt like your posts were like combative and I thought that your post was simply indicating that the majority of the comments were in favor of one housewife whom you didn’t particularly like and then you went on to state your opinion.

      I think it is very difficult sometimes too to understand exactly what is said when something is posted. I myself have had numerous occasions where the intention behind my post was not articulated properly and it brought out opinions/comments that were not in line with what I was trying to say. I refer to it as akin to being “lost in translation.” We can all do a better job to try to be more understanding and compassionate of others while debating/advocating our opinions on these crazy reality shows. While some of us might agree with each other and some might not, I’m sure we can all make it a point to continue to keep this board as it was intented, a fun happy place to talk about whatever is on someone’s mind. I for one welcome the healthy discussion because I know that I have made a comment and a poster might remind me of something I missed which breaks down my argument and it makes me re-think what I’ve said and re-evaluate my opinions and I personally think that’s a great function of this board. Let’s keep it that way no matter which housewife you like!

      Sorry for the pontificating!!!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Awesome post, Obsessed!!! After all, we are, all of us, slightly OBSESSED. 🙂

        • This is true Lainey!! I figure why pretend? I am obviously OBSESSED if all I do is watch these shows and talk about them day in and day out!!! Thank god for this board otherwise I’m convinced my husband would divorce me…..He would look at me like I had 6 heads when I would talk about the shows and be so passionate about how I felt so thank you all for giving me a place to let out the crazy!!!

          • princesspindy says:

            Yeah, it would be like me listening to him talk about football, LOL!!
            I told him that I watch these show so that I don’t gossip about people in “real life” and it gives me something to talk about with my mom. She can bash them. As soon as I feel her leaning toward getting on me, or talking about politics….
            I throw up a “Hey, what did you think about __________ (insert HW here)?
            And she takes the bait and we are off to the races!! And my fragile ego is saved one more time!

            • lovemamaearth says:

              ROFL PP. I had to read the three times and it’s so smart of you!!! lol I wish my mom watched RHW to give us more to talk about.

      • Obsessed w/RH and Amber wife… I read and understand your posts and appreciate them.. i am not on the Tre love train either…havent been since season one…I just choose to not voice my opinion here because I need calm in my life…… and at the end of the day what they do in NJ has no bearing on my life here in chobee town…winks…
        and YES..I would love for folks to appreciate each others opinions and respect them at the same time…
        hugs and peace

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Mad respect from me to you, Miz Amber. And of course, Thank you for saying I am a great poster, I appreciate that. 🙂 The feeling is mutual.

      I do try to keep the peace – most of the time – and my goal for the most part is to enjoy the humor of others and share mine. I have been known to beg people not to leave, but then it happened so many times that I vowed not to do it ever again. I don’t want people to leave, but if they leave. They leave. No ,more banners from LaineyLainey.

      I am a preschool teacher so perhaps that’s where my aversion and off switch (meaning I get turned off and stop listening) when it comes to name-calling each other. However, I am a complete hypocrite, because I fully and wholeheartedly partake in name- calling the HW’s and peripheral characters (unless they are minor children.).

      You say that you feel sometimes as if you HAVE TO defend your POV. But you know deep in your heart that you don’t HAVE TO. You want to. I didn’t have to reply to you, I wanted to. You didn’t have to reply to me….etc. You get the picture. My opinion.

      To anyone who thinks that because they hold a minority view, and think they shouldn’t post I say, Please post! I agree with Amber…please Post. I only ask (both sides) not to call people on this board names; is that an official rule of the board? No, I don’t think so. I’m taking liberties with making up a rule (only because it shows the most basic courtesy) and no one has to agree with me.

      I love attention as much as the next guy/girl. I thought I had killed that thread with my comment about “What is the truth”…I’ve been known to kill a conversation or two ( or a hundred) in my time. I’m glad I didn’t officially kill it, I didn’t want to come off as scoldy but I didn’t want to be ignored either,(!!) which I wasn’t after all, ’cause here we are!

      Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I do feel I understand your point of view better, I’m glad you chose to delve into it a little more.

      • amalfi says:

        “I only ask (both sides) not to call people on this board names; is that an official rule of the board? No, I don’t think so. I’m taking liberties with making up a rule (only because it shows the most basic courtesy) and no one has to agree with me. ”

        Actually Lainey it was Lynn’s rule from the beginning. 🙂

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Yes Lainey we choose to reply but when responses become badgering that is when you are made to feel you have to defend your POV. Luckily for you, you have or maybe you haven’t been in one of those melees. As for the Go/Stay…. I can understand not getting on the please stay train, but jumping on the good riddance train is not what Lynn wanted when she started this blog. That is much worse for the many who use this as their form/source of entertainment.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          But when does a reply become badgering? I’ve also seen people post and not get a reply and be hurt by that. When I see a post with lots of replies, even if I don’t agree with the OP- at least i think they are interesting.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            Good question RR. If I see someone who is new or seldom posts I try to comment to them.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Compassion is never a bad thing. Amber we do agree on that. Yes, I have been part of a sort of semi- melee from time to time…I try to work it out with that person in a reasonable way, and I haven’t been disappointed, yet. That’s why I love it here.

    • chismosa says:

      Amber and Obsessed– thank you for your posts. I am with you guys on the Tre-wagon, and appreciate what you both said. Amber i like that you are calling out the joking of the people who decide to leave and those who actually decide to TELL everyone here they want to leave and for what reason THEY feel they are leaving for. I also think Lynn would not be down with that mockery. But again, that is just my opinion. I love mocking, but for those who make these choices to leave this great group, i don’t want to belittle that.
      I mentioned above i get what Lynn did when she changed the name of the blog, but i honestly don’t think Lynn would have imagined in her wildest dreams this witch would be back on tv, so who knows what she would have done in regards to the blog’s name reverting back?

      Lainey, you are always very sympathetic to those of us on the opposite side (especially to me- thank you!), so thank you for your understanding. For the Tre issues, i do feel in the minority and i do feel like not posting because to be honest, i feel it sullies me in the eyes of other posters. I think you all look at me as a lunatic and not take anything i say as credible, which affects how i feel moving forward in this blog. Not sure if this makes sense? I feel i put so much effort to explain the heat of animosity i feel towards Teresa and it yields me zero results in finding fellow thinkers of that way here.
      If there were more of the minority/ Team B/ anti-Tre’s — posting here, i would post more freely, more frequently, feel happier or at least more at ease, and have a lower diastolic/systolic #, and my anxiety would lessen. But alas, they choose not to post. I wish you guys would come out and post!! If our numbers grew, it would make more of a camaraderie for our side and maybe the playing field would feel less 90/10%.

      So Amber thank you for saying what you said, Obsessed- thanks too for coming on out!

      • Chismosa, please don’t feel like you are viewed as a lunatic or not taken as credible for your views on Teresa or any other housewife. I think if we all did a better job of articulating our opinions with intelligent words instead of vitriolic comments then it would encourage the varying opinions. I have tried more frequently to post especially about Teresa because I felt like there was no one advocating on the other side and personally I couldn’t understand that because of my own disdain for her. I will certainly do my best to continue to post and welcome posters of all opinions. Please continue to post Chismosa!!

        • Allow me to clarify. I’m not saying everyone is spewing hateful comments but I think that what this thread is referring to is some pretty strong language/comments that can be very hurtful. I apologize for using the word vitriolic, it is a very harsh word…..I’ve been playing words with friends too much!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Obsessed, I had to look it up. I just thought it meant “critical” …..what do I know? Hey I have learned new words here!

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        @ chismos…. you know I love the bochinche! LOL

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Chismosa – I think you are so bright, witty and frankly…hilarious. You crack me up. This is only the first season that I was pro-Teresa. Last season, I was kind of waiting and seeing…but …well… I won’t go into the why’s I changed my mind. You’ve heard it all, haven’t you? I so enjoy your comments and yes, I do sympathize with the feeling of being a minority. I get it. But forge on, girl. Onward and upward! I hope it’s not always completely unpleasant for you, my advice would be for you to separate what makes you YOU….from the whole Tre debate. I do hope you don’t feel personally attacked. But when you do, speak up, I have found most folks are really quick (some not so quick) to come to a place of peace and understanding here.

        • chismosa says:

          thanks LL you are always so supportive, i will take your words to heart! Rock on….. ha ha

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Amber, I really didn’t see people being mocked for leaving and then changing their mind and returning.
      But I do see patience running thin when people threaten that they are going to leave so that they can be begged to stay and it happens repeatedly. It’s almost like the little boy who cried wolf.
      If someone takes a break from the board because of person reasons then comes back, I think it’s nice to notice their return- even if it’s just to catch up. But if someone says they are ‘leaving’ because of a discussion they didn’t like then comes back, while I don’t think anyone should hold a grudge, I don’t see the need to hold a parade either.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        A parade for someone’s return isn’t necessary. Throwing barbs at their departure isn’t necessary either. Is it that important to let people know that your (not you but them) patience is at an end? And YES people are mocked when they make their leaving speech. And YeS others have been told you’ve done this before. You know I can only tell my hub/son what to do, LOL, it’s just saddening to think someone could be missing out because others are ‘over it’. We’ve been thru deaths, births, surgeries, recuperations and prayer vigils on this blog. We were supposed to have been the kinder blog and I guess I was feeling a bit melancholy when I saw how some were being dispatched. Posters are going to do as they please, but just take a moment, you never know who is having a bad day, is close to the end of their rope or just needed some kindness. As with everything in life, we see what we want to see. Some may agree others will disagree and we’ll have to accept it.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I really agree with you.

        • Amber…. real wife….
          Thank you…indeed, there are some of us that do come here for a place to enjoy a CALGON MOMENT when real life becomes over bearing at times..Lord knows I do…

          Hugs and Peace

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          Oh I totally get that some times people have a bad day think “I am so over this” but then maybe isn’t not the best day to have a long discussion about a HW (basically NJ- since that is the one that seems to cause the most waves).

          For me, as far as NJ goes I have friends here and on twitter on both sides of the equation. It’s just not something that I take personally or to heart when someone has a different view of one of the cast members than I do.

          There is now a political section here and it would be very unlikely that I would ever post in it because I know for me personally, it can be lighting rod. But if was an occasional poster there, I would govern myself and not lurk when I was having a bad day because I would be afraid it would manifest on the blog.

          • Amber...Real Wife says:

            Yup when someone has a differing view on one of the HWs I don’t care how they came to their conclusions. Just let me post my view, you post yours and we definitely shouldn’t take each others opinions as offenses to ourselves.

            • NJBev says:

              Amber, I have mad respect for you lovely lady.
              I think your husband should give you title billing
              on the company letterhead
              “Amber…Real Wife”
              “Amber’s husband, The Attorney”

              What you said in your initial post above was
              so well said, and showed empathy and kindness
              that was such a standard here. And you are
              right, Lynn would never want any of her posters
              humiliated like that, and most often she always
              found a way to make them feel welcome when
              they returned.
              Amber, thank you.

    • Sasha says:

      MizAmber, I get where you are coming from. There are times when I am shocked by some of the comments that I read. I just make sure that I keep my time here lighthearted and fun. When I see that there is more (PASSION) than normal I go into lurker mode.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        ((( Sasha )))

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Sasha if you have to lurk for your sanity, LOL, do so. But come on back when the water is fine. See I almost said when the sharks are gone but Lainey would do the school teacher tsk tsk tsk and TRY and put me in detention. 🙂 LOL (screaming) I can’t help it Lainey! I’m just too damned descriptive! LMAO

    • lovemamaearth says:

      is that the cliques must be careful with their responses when some feel overwhelmed and decide to take off. Too many times, lately, i’ve seen the most
      True. Or they swarm to defend. I think that’s natural. But not always pleasant.

    • Zoey says:

      Amber, that was well said. I totally agree. I personally don’t care for the direction things have been going in lately as far as comments. But, I do appreciate the hard work put into doing the blog.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        ITA Alot of great work being done NMD and other bloggers to have hits and posts go down.

    • amalfi says:

      OOOhhh twice, girl. Also page 5.

      • amalfi says:

        (Still reading) From her blog reposting her follower’s tweets in special categories:


        I just can’t put anything here. She has enough of a Twitter problem, and enough problems as it is. God Bless.


        @TheFauxMilaniaG weird how “God Bless” has become code for “I f—ing hate your guts” #RHONJ

        LMAO… I am dying…laughing.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Wow. Thanks for sharing that. 🙂 Congrats Sue!

    • plainviewsue says:

      I know!!!!! Four tweets in all!!!!! Very excited!! I saw quite a few of my twitter friends as well.

      I thought Teresa’s idea of using tweets was so clever!!!! The pictures reminded me of our very own Boston’s.

      • amalfi says:


      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        PVS first WWHL and now Tre’sBlog. Congratulations!

      • disgrazia4 says:

        I just posted her blog in the FB group and made an album of T’s pics. I loved this. And to think our own PVSue!❤ I suppose melissa’s PR team is scouring for favorable tweets right now!! LMBO!!!!!!

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I want your autograph, Sue. You have had a question asked on WWHL, and now you have been mentioned by Teresa more than once! You go, Girl! 😉

        • plainviewsue says:

          Hugs and kisses to all!!! I told hubby when he came home for work & he looked at me like I was certifiable!!!!

    • chismosa says:

      wait, IS that Teresa’s blog? 😉

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        LOl, I remember saying a while ago that I thought that ‘we’ (the viewers here, twitter and other blogs) in a way are the writers since I see how things that were said by us end up in the blog, not always verbatim but close enough. Now it looks like it really happened.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Her writer was on vacation so he literally phoned it in. He really chose some insulting comments to post, but it’s okay as they’re not her thoughts, it’s the viewers. wink wink.

        • princesspindy says:

          It’s a joke, get it? lol

          • Amber...Real Wife says:

            Got it!

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            While I agree, Teresa is a master of getting a dig in there by qualifying it as her repeating someone elses remark, those tweets are just a drop in the bucket compared to some of the things I have seen her castmates tweet and retweet.

            From the reunion, it’s seems clear that all gloves are off.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        It IS her blog. She paid for it.

        If I got breast implants (which I STILL want to do one day JUST FOR ME, not for some man), if someone asked me, “Are those YOUR breasts?” I would say, “Yes.” If they said, “But they are not naturally yours. A plastic surgeon did the work and gave them to you.” I would say, “They ARE mine because I PAID for them. I don’t care if he did the work. He used his skills to make MY vision of MY breasts a reality.”

        To me, it’s kinda the same thing. Teresa’s blog writer helps Teresa organize her thoughts and then puts them down in a clever and coherent form for her. *Shrug*

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Hey Detox *shoulder/lean* we know it’s her blog, it’s that she said she writes it. If I would’ve been her I would’ve said “With all of the businesses that I have to oversee, book and bottle signings, speaking engagements, club appearances, product development meetings I barely have time to comb Milania’s hair let alone write a 6 page blog. But I give them my imput, do read it and approve.

          Got that from my aunt “FertileMyrtle” who had 6 kids. She said by the time she got them up for school, cooked breakfast, sent them off to school, did dishes, did laundry, tidied the house, cooked a massive lunch form them, sent them back to school, did dishes, continued cleaning, started dinner, assisted with HW, her husband was walking thru the door and she hadn’t had time to comb her hair yet.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I agree that Teresa should just fess up in this way. I don’t think anybody would hold it against her. IMO, the majority of her fans (or those people who are not quite fans, but on her side because they are anti-hypocrisy and anti-gang up) would not hold it against her (because they ALREADY know Teresa does not write her own blogs. It’s like *Wink* *Wink* “O.K., Teresa, you write your blogs.” *Wink* *Wink*).

            The people that already hate Teresa will simply add this to their arsenal of reasons to hate her, but nothing is going to change their mind about hating her. So, she really has nothing to lose by fessing up, IMO.

            Teresa strikes me like Nene in that I find them BOTH, despite their bravado, to be INCREDIBLY INSECURE and DEFENSIVE. I think this causes them to behave in strange ways at times. It causes Nene to sometimes act like an obnoxious, conceited, hair-trigger-tempered big-mouth. It causes Teresa to continue to LIE about certain things (like Joe cheating. Teresa KNOWS that man cheats. I think her refusal to air her dirty laundry and her insecurity about how she is perceived is what prevents her from admitting it PUBLICALLY. She also probably wants to protect her daughters from hearing her say that about their father publically.).

            I just wish Teresa would be SERIOUSLY open to THERAPY. I really think it could help her if she would just be “open” to it. And she would have no fear of having her secrets told (like they have been told by former friends and by her relatives) by her therapist because she could SUE the hell out of his ass if he did this.

  37. Ça va says:

    From ADD’s blog: “While we are on “apologies”. . .I want to apologize for the constant talk of my “leg” and phobias.It appears that I talk about it all the time and I am truly sorry for boring many viewers with what appeared to be repetition. My goal when mentioning these subjects at all was to help others by raising awareness.”
    Telling that she puts apologies in quotes. Also, appears? It is apparent that all you talk about is your phobias (like the use of faux in FAUX-BEE- AS, Diva!). It didn’t appear to be repetition, it was repetitious! FYI, ADD, living fearlessly, while not calling attention to your many limitations, as we ALL have them, is the best way to raise awareness. Guess you failed to see the irony of the closing quote: “What people often mean by getting rid of conflict is getting rid of diversity, and it is of utmost importance that these should not be considered the same. We may wish to abolish conflict, but we cannot get rid of diversity. . .Fear of difference is fear of life itself.” Suddenly you are tolerant of diversity, i.e. white trash like R&S? Fear of life itself perfectly sums you up. Remember what FDR said, “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” And the thought of you returning to RHONY next season.

    • amalfi says:

      “It appears that I talk about it all the time and I am truly sorry for boring many viewers with what appeared to be repetition. My goal when mentioning these subjects at all was to help others by raising awareness.” = PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE.

      Get help, Aviva.

      • chismosa says:

        that would make a great t-shirt.
        Get Help Aviva.
        Get a Better Therapist Aviva!
        I Was Expecting a Party, Frankly.

        • amalfi says:

          LMAO at “I was expecting a party, frankly”

          I would pay a lot of money — up to $20 — for those tshirts. Of course Reid would ensure they were available in xxxs, xxs and xs —and small (for the fatties).

  38. Exit4 says:

    I like the idea of a Gorga spinoff. Melissa and a friend or 2, joe, her sisters and in laws. Just what she always wanted. That way, she could leave RHONJ and they can remake the cast sand feuding family. And when NJ gets the viewers and the Gorgathon fails, we will be rid of her and she will be forced to again live on planet earth. I don’t think they can succeed on their own….but I could be wrong. If anything, when the focus is on you and you alone-the facade can crack. So I like it! I hope they do it sooner rather than later.

  39. Lulu says:

    Hello everyone! Hope your day is going great! Anyone catch the Steel Magnolia’s remake? In case you didn’t it was AWFUL!! Great cast but it was completely off and butchered. Sorry the original wins! Why remake that out of all the movies?? The screenwriter wrote that based on his sister (Julia Roberts/Shelby) this one butchered it completely. Hope hollywood/lifetime wakes up and realizes not everything can be remade!

    I feel asleep during the last half of RHONY. From what I saw I liked the way the ladies handled themselves. The screaming in the first half wasn’t too bad.

    • amalfi says:

      I thought it was the same script – how was it butchered? Darn I was hoping it was good.

    • chismosa says:

      Did they use the SAME EXACT script??? That is ridiculous to me. I heard the actresses really could not capture the glory of the originals, especially the chemistry and the warmth of Sally Fields mom/ to Julia Roberts daughter.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I think there have been several remakes of Rear Window and I liked them all.

        You’ve Got Mail is said to be a remake of Shop Around the Corner and I think it’s extremely clever.

        I have mixed feelings on the remake of The Manchurian Candidate.

        • chismosa says:

          Ok let me clarify, remakes of very old movies (50 years or so ago), may be good. Except i didn’t like Sabrina remade. Not sure i have to think of some more.

          Remakes of movies from the 70’s– 90’s just HAVE TO STOP

        • Powell says:

          I’ve never seen You’ve Got Mail. I love Tom Hanks & Meg Ryan but never wanted to see it. Shop Around the Corner is a fantastic movie. I’ve seen it 3 or 4 times.

        • Powell says:

          Oh & The Manchurian Candidate, the original I can watched that over & over again. Can you believe Angela Lansbury was younger than the actor that played her son? I can never remember his name. I saw the remake once & it was good but it’s not the original.

      • Rebecca says:

        It was a play first.

    • Powell says:

      I was hoping it was going to be good alright. Great cast. I’ll catch it when it comes on again.

  40. shamrockblonde says:

    just a couple of quick notes on the reunion – most dead on comment came from Ramona when she told Adiva that she needed a better therapist – so so true – her phobias are a legend in her own mind, and come to the forefront to protect her when she feels threatened – otherwise they simply do not restrict her in the slightest – and that is an insult to those whose phobias keep them imprisoned within themselves –

    T should take a page from Ramona – she sat on that couch in a loungy kind of confident way and if she was feeling any heat, never once showed it – T sat so straight, so tense that it gave away her discomfort without her having to say a word – Ramona’s posture spoke eloquent volumes – she let Adiva have it so easily and so smoothly that it was pretty impressive – same for Sonja – and as someone who does not particularly like Heather, I have to say I was impressed with her defense of Ramona despite their fued and for calling out Luann as being a pot stirrer – she did both with conviction – not accusation – as for Carole – I never really warmed up to her as much as I did her writing ability – the reunion did nothing to change that – as for Luann – ……….looking forward to Part 2 for her – all in all – it was great to see NY represented with ladies nicely dressed and made up and going through the season without a scream fest or physical violence breaking out – either on stage or off!

    Andy Cohen is an asshat and proves it yet again with the whole JZ thing –

    • chismosa says:

      Shamrock you said it. Someone the other day posted about how Teresa’s body language totally was from Psych 101. She was painfully obvious. That’s why i enjoyed Reunion pt. 2. One can’t readily train yourself to change their body language unless they try extremely extremely hard, this goes for anyone. I think it was Bella Beach Girl who posted this?


    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      I think the difference in Ramona and Tre was that Ramona was confident in her truth. She went in to rehash her battles, of which she was in the winning position, and comment truthfully on the others. Tre, on the other hand, was in constant defense mode. She went in to battle, deflect, lie, and refuse to take any responsibility for any wrongdoing. E0ven when the Qs had nothing to do with her she inserted herself to bring it back to her. She kept saying it was the Tre Show, however, when it wasn’t she was bored. Likewise, and in all fairness, Caro and Jac were rude when the Qs had nothing to do with them. They did alot of in-talking, pretended to be asleep etc. Those three showed themselves to be self-centered a-holes. In that respect, Kathy and Melissa were much better behaved, outbursts aside, listening intently and not looking bored when it wasn’t about them, which was often.

      • Sasha says:

        I thought Melissa and Kathy were on their best behavior too. I loved Melissa’s dress. If I could get that in a size 4………..

      • chismosa says:

        Caroline inserts herself into ANY conversation that involves any relative of hers, blood relative or not.
        I liked Melissa’s dress too– the makeup needed to be more subtle though. (i know i know, i have an issue with makeup! But she’s so naturally pretty…)IMO

  41. AZGirl says:

    Dear God it is starting. JZ is tweeting every article mentioning her inteview on WWHL. She was betrayed and she deserves a reason why she was fired. She claims it was a poor “focus group” report. Hey gang that “focus group” that she is referring to is most likely US!

    • Ça va says:

      Why, oh why, did Andy feel the need to wake the beast? I may not HATE JZ, but I really, really, really intensely dislike, detest, abhor her!

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I she really saying she was “betrayed”? O….M…G!! ALWAYS the Victim, huh, Jill (when, in reality, YOU are usually the VICTIMIZER)?

      It sounds to me like BRAVO may actually bring Jill BACK. I’m tired of “darkness” in the Real Housewives’ shows. I know Aviva brought her own type of darkness, but I still find Jill to be WORSE than Aviva (Believe it or not?) because she’s going to try that whole “team” and manipulating and revenge thing again. YUCK!

  42. not THAT Jill says:

    Did anyone read Kathy’s blog yet? She is sorrynotsorry b/c its Teresa’s fault for bringing her to such a dark place. She had such a hard time at the reunion b/c Teresa didn’t let anyone finish a sentence. That is hysterical to me b/c ever time Teresa went to speak, one of them had to butt in and start talking.

    • Birdwoman says:

      I really hate when people do that. Oh, I’m sorry but if you didn’t do what you did then I wouldn’t have been a complete B****…Oh please!! Hey Kathy….OWN YOUR BEHAVIOR!!!

      • not THAT Jill says:

        Well in reality-its kind of what Teresa does. The reason it bugs me is b/c they all talk about how Teresa does it and her comes Miss Chatty Kathy doing the exact thing. I do not think any of the NJ women are capable of owning their behavior…not one of them!!!!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Kathy took cheap shots at the very people who kept her family afloat when their father was dying of cancer. I can see Mrs Gorga listening politely to Krappy’s explanations for her horrible behavior towards her daughter but I can’t see Mr Gorga sitting there listening to her bs. So I guess I am a coward too – because I walk away when the bs gets too deep and anything I would say would not be nice. Kathy apologized but she did the damage she indeeded to do – old school respect – I think not.

        • princesspindy says:

          LOL!!! Krappy!!!

        • Nancy says:


          • contessa says:

            Co-sign too. Elderly parents are off limits. I have no doubt that the Elderly Gorga’s helped Kathy’s parents when her Dad was ill. That is part of what Italian (Polish, German, etc, etc,)immigrant families do. My Mom died when I was 15, and it was just me and my Dad, wow the family really supported us emotionally and money wise for the funeral expenses. I am now 63 years old and I can still remember this like it was yesterday. I believe Mrs. Gorga was trying to be nice to Kathy, but Mr. Gorga was not going to sit there and have his kids bashed, either one. JMHO.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I hate when people do that too. I also hate, “I’m sorry you FEEL that way!” That is NOT an “I’m sorry.” It’s a condescending, passive-aggressive way of basically telling the person that their feelings are invalid and incorrect. And I hate the whole, “I’m sorry, BUT….” Anytime an apology is qualifed with a “but,” it’s not sincere, IMO.

        And when Kathy says it’s Teresa’s fault because Teresa dragged Kathy to “such a dark” place, she is F.O.S. on THAT one too. Kathy got that WHOLE ball rolling when she said, “Teresa, you used to call ME to talk about YOUR IN-LAWS all the time…!” (There Kathy goes throwing Teresa under the bus and revealing a confidence and also possibly causing some problems between Teresa and her IN-LAWS. I mean, besides her parents and her children, the Giudices are really the only “family” Teresa has left. Does Kathy want to mess THAT up for Teresa too?).

        I would have told Kathy to take her apology and stick it up her FISHY NETHER REGIONS (Yes, I would have INDEED said this ON CAMERA. I probably would have said something like, “Well, the people to whom you REALLY owe an apology, Kathy, are my PARENTS — NOT me. So, I would appreciate it if you would offer your apology to THEM in person. I want to tell you that I am sorry too. I am sorry that your husband indicated that you often have that ‘not quite-so-fresh’ feeling and fishy nether regions. I am sorry for your medical problem and for your husband providing this information to the world.” Kathy would then scream, “Richie was EDITED!! He did NOT say that!!” I would say, “Well, I said my Joe’s alleged phone call to his mistress was edited, but you guys don’t think it was. So, I think Richie REALLY said that. Again…I’m sorry, Kath! Next question please, Andy!” [BIG GRIN])).

        • chismosa says:

          Detox i hate that too, I’m sorry you felt that way. I’m sorry I made you feel that way. NOT apologies, lol!
          Except— i LOVE when Ramona did it to Cindy Barshop, Kelly Kookoo, Aviva, Luann, and Jill. Just to get them to LAY THE F OFF OF HER. She’s very smart in her ways, love her or hate her. Love that she did that to them and they probably had no idea she was doing that.

    • Sasha says:

      Teresa did her share of butting in and couch hopping.

    • Rebecca says:

      It’s ridiculous that Bravo removed the old blogs so now we can’t go back and recap how evil she was last week. She could have posted something about her apologizing THEN but she posted some stupid thing about her uncle not being important enough. It was disgusting. She is a P-I-G.

  43. chismosa says:

    so if anyone can explain to me what is the situation with Andy deciding to PRE-TAPE an **interview** with Jill? When he usually has live shows? A fired housewife who was hated by most of the viewers? It was not even 50/50. I don’t understand this, honestly. What is the point?
    Does he want ratings?
    I thought ratings sweeps were February and November? We’re not even in November yet. This makes zero sense to me.
    And his Sag Harbor BFF Bethenny was probably like ‘yeah do whatever Andy’ – i’m sure she couldn’t care less but i don’t get the LOGIC in doing this. Why? Does Jill have something on him that she’s about to release so he caves and does this for her? Or maybe something on Bethenny? I mean, why?

    Ps- when she said ‘the sound of her voice annoyed me’– i almost spit out what i was eating. Who on EARTH could annoy Jill with that voice????

    I just don’t get it– can we have someone write an entire blog about this perplexing issue, just breaking it down? Lynn would have gone to TOWN on this $hit. 😉

    • Nancy says:

      It has to be about the NY ratings. They weren’t great and that’s all the Bravo cares about however I never thought that Andy would go that low. Live and learn, eh?

      • chismosa says:

        But i thought ratings were acceptable for NY– not compared to say, NJ or Beverly Hills, but for a RH franchise, not bad? I mean find someone new, even bring back Adiva– but not THISssssss. An evil soul is never the answer Andy!

    • Ça va says:

      As I commented last night, editing! If anyone needs to be severely edited, it is JZ. Which is too bad in a way cause the edit might work to her advantage. JZ is so unfiltered that if you give her enough rope and she will hang herself. Wouldn’t be the first time she was hoisted by her own petard!

      • chismosa says:

        But whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ? I don’t get the point of this?? Does Andy think Jill will give him ratings? I don’t GET it. Go get another of your high profile ass-kisser actors or celebs who want to be with you in the clubhouse. Why get her? She’s so OVER.

        • Sam says:

          I imagine that’s what they’re testing: Is she over? And if the ratings are high enough, it will prove that she can still draw ’em in.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          She’s probably on his case 24-7 to be on like he was on Carole about being on RHW.

          JZ needs to learn some manners and get some self respect. She’s an embarrassment.

        • Ça va says:

          I’m with you, chismosa, why, indeed? Makes Bravo look ball less and JZ look she once again gets her way. Rewarding disgusting behavior etc.

        • amalfi says:

          I think she will bring publicity – I mean look how much space we have dedicated to discussing her?

          She is like that ever elusive fly that even the most docile life loving vegan takes pleasure in smooshing against the window with last night’s paper.

          Shoo Jill, don’t bother me.

    • Powell says:

      I don’t get why he’s doing it either but I think it’s not live cause they don’t want callers & JZ can kind of be prepared & they can cut what she doesn’t like. You know she saw the final product.

  44. bea says:

    During the NY reunion I felt like they covered almost everything from the season. Then I realized that we haven’t opened the George can of worms. I assume there will be a montage of George’s inappropriate acts next week. Not looking forward to that at all. What else is left?

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Ramona’s over reactions as well? Whether Lu and Jac are still together. Did they boink. Are Lu’s tubes tied as her mama claimed. Was Aviva active in charities before RHWs. A few thoughts off the top of my head.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The toaster oven and St Barths wasn’t really covered either.

      • Powell says:

        Yeah I want to hear about the toaster oven. I don’t know why Sonja would waste her time. Do we need another toaster oven on the market? Frankly my toaster oven does what it’s supporse to do just fine.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      The Big Worm (Georgie) and the Pirate. that’s what’s left, I believe.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      The only person who is amused by and loves loves loves ChicletGeorge is his daugher. As it should be anyway. Carole aka FireMarshallBill and ChesireHeather don’t really have an aversion as he didn’t goose, manhandle or name-call them as he did Sonja and Ramona.

    • chismosa says:

      Do we know (sorry if this was said already) – is the Reunion 2 parts or 3? Because on coming attractions Andy didn’t say, ‘we conclude with…’… so i dont know?
      What a CIVILIZED reunion this was. When, just across the river…….. another species lurks.

  45. AZGirl says:

    Just checking in with the “Poor focus Group” a/k/a Lynn’s Family and seeing how everyone is doing?

    I am going to send Andy an email….Dear Andy Cohen this is AZGirl from the “poor focus group” of which your FORMER employee referred to in your interview on WWHL. Well we just did another survey and yes….Jill had to be fired. She did not have poor editing as she suggests. She just became an ugly individual that no one wanted to watch. Sincerely, AZGirl.

  46. Ça va says:

    ADD tweets:
    Aviva Drescher ‏@AvivaDrescher
    @_______I believe that peeps who have/take the time 2 say hateful things on social media are deranged. XO
    In the words of Ramona, are you freaking kidding me?

  47. Winston says:

    Loved reading the article about Lynn! Thanks for sharing it. It brought back so many memories of her and was nice to learn more about who she was. I never knew she was a Property Manager or that she got up at 4:00 a.m.
    One of my favorite memories of Lynn, that still makes me smile to this day, is whenever she would write LMAO, I would always envision her sitting at her computer laughing hysterically. Even now when I see LMAO I always think of Lynn. So very grateful for all she gave to us and love that her legacy lives on.
    And OMG I had no idea the blog got 10,000 hits a day. Here I thought a few hundred people might read..maybe 1000 on a good day but 10,000, very impressive. *waving to you all*

  48. Klmh says:

        Many of us over 60, WAY over 60, or on the way to 60 are quite confused about how we should present ourselves. We’re unsure about the kind of image we are projecting and whether or not we are correct as we try to conform to current fashions.
    Despite what you may have seen on the streets, the following combinations DO NOT go together and should be avoided:
    1. A nose ring and bifocals
    2. Spiked hair and bald spots
    3. A pierced tongue and dentures
    4. Miniskirts and support hose
    5. Ankle bracelets, toe rings, and corn pads
    6. Speedo’s and cellulite
    7. A belly-button ring and a gall-bladder surgery scar
    8. Unbuttoned disco shirts and a heart monitor
    9. Midriff shirts and a midriff bulge
    10. Pierced nipples that hang below the waist
    11. Bikinis and liver spots
    12. Short shorts and varicose veins
    13. Inline skates and a walker

    And the ultimate ‘Bad Taste’ in Fashion for the ‘Older folks’…..

    14. Thongs and Depends

    Please keep these basic guidelines foremost in your mind who you shop.

    Haven’t had time to read, but thought you guys could use a laugh…

  49. Nancy says:

    Abby’s new dance show is starting right now.

    • Powell says:

      I saw the advertisement for it yesterday. I can’t believe Robin Antonhr creator of the Pussycat Dolls is involved in it. I’ve never really watched Abby’s other show but the 1or 2 minutes I did see I saw nothing but a bully.

      • Nancy says:

        Robin was in my class at the same high school.

        • Powell says:

          Did you ever see her brother Jonathan? He said she practically raised him cause their parents worked a lot.

          • not THAT Jill says:

            Remember Jonathan had that reality show about his salon? It was so stupid…I never missed an episode.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              I loved that show!!! remember when his water was shut off so he used evian to take a shower and then he had that epiphany that he was going to market waterfilters for your shower.

              • not THAT Jill says:

                What was the show called LaineyLove-Im folding laundry and dont want to go to Google b/c I always find something worth reading and then the laundry never gets done!!!!

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  “Blow Out” – talented guy.

                  • not THAT Jill says:

                    Thanks Lainey-he was talented but way to intense. I used to work in a salon years ago before I had my girls…there is nothing going on in a salon to make anyone that stressed!!!!

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      so funny, Jill!!! i never thought of that before, he was a bit over the top, wasn’t he? Although…my mom was a hairdresser and so was my sister …there were some super funny and very dramatic folks we met along the way!

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              I used to watch that show. Jonathan always had so much angst. He acted like he was really trying to cure cancer (In short, he took himself WAY too seriously). I used to sit there like, “Dude….you do HAIR??!! Yes. You do a great job. Yes, it’s a great profession. But why are you always SOOOO pressed! You act like you are on some limited time world-saving mission when you’re cutting, blow drying and styling hair!”

              My mouth also hung open when I found out he was STRAIGHT!! That SERIOUSLY shocked me! *Shrug* When I heard that, I was like, “Ahhh, Mon Dieu!!!! [Oh, My God!!] Fan me wit’ a BRICK!! [Fan me with a BRICK!!]” (My grandmother used to always say that. Can you imagine trying to fan yourself with a BRICK? I can’t. I don’t think one would get much of a breeze.).

              I hope Jonathan has less stress now. Maybe he has CAAAAAAAALMED DOOOOOOOWWWNNN and taken a Xanax!

              • Nancy says:

                …or two! Where have you been all day? Are you feeling ok? I’ve missed you.

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  I’ve been here, Nancy! I even wrote a story of how Jill’s being brought back on to RHONY could end in 2 deaths: Ramona’s and Aviva’s (See above).

                  Thanks for missing me. MUAH!

                  I’m feeling MUCH better (Knock wood), and thank you for asking. How are YOU feeling, Nancy?

              • LaineyLainey says:

                hilarious. “fan me with a brick” I want to steal that.

              • chismosa says:

                Detox i was going to say that too, i couldn’t believe it when i heard he was straight. Ha!!!
                Fan me with a Brick is HYSTERICAL. time to make a t-shirt time again………

          • Nancy says:

            I think her brother was after our class. Robin was really nice though.

  50. Eastbayca says:

    Finally read the blogs (thanks to all the contributors)
    I enjoyed the NY reunion last night….it was civilized.
    Heather – brought her New York and she did do well, in that she was on point.
    Lulu – time to go home, you are done.
    Carole – ughhhh. Social experiment???? Get a life.
    Ramonja – they did good.
    Aviva – please take Ramona’s advice and get a new therapist. How does one delivery an apology with such cold blood, no feelings……it sounded like a scolding. The only time she showed emotion was when addressing her many phobias and her leg.

    I don’t think Jill is going to come out smelling like roses in her interview with Andy.

    • Powell says:

      I’m ok w/them all for next season except I’m 30/70 for Aviva coming back. I want Aviva if they are thinking of bringing JZ back.

      • chismosa says:

        But Aviva and Jill will be buddy buddy— why do you want them back together?

        Eastbay— Aviva was COLD AS ICE. You could just feel the ice cracks forming on her skin….

  51. TEB has received clearance for an interview with Aviva. Please let me know what questions you’d like her to ask. They are friends – so let’s try to come up with some thoughtful questions.

    • AZGirl says:

      Simple. My question is why she thought her father’s behavior was appropriate in any venue.

    • Powell says:

      She went to college, traveled overseas, modeled and became very independent & capable. When & why did it change that she became so dependent on Reid to help her get through her phobias?

      She knew her father was inappropriate with women. Why would he try to fix him up with Sonja, someone she is trying to get to know?

    • not THAT Jill says:

      My question is: if she were only tweeting and writing mean things in her blog about Ramona and Sonja to keep the sequence of the season flowing-why didn’t she just explain that to Ramonja?(on or off camera)
      She has been making excuses about this on twitter all day and I just don’t buy it.

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        And she was saying nasty things about Ramona from the start of the Season – when they were still friends on camera.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I would like to know why she turned on Ramona and refused to apologize for her constant berating of her.

    • Sam says:

      I’d like to know whether the contract she signed required her to participate in any activity Bravo demanded as part of filming, including air travel — and if so, why did she sign it?

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Originally I thought I had no questions for her. But now, the idea of thoughtful questions that she will give thoughtful and detailed answers to, well that’s enticing. So…

      1. Her problem with Ramona is hard to understand. She gave various reasons, long lists, but they were off the top of her head or spoken in anger, and they were very possibly edited. I’d like to know really what it is about Ramona she objects to. I hope she will not simply list general things, but will give a more detailed example.

      2. What has been her take-away from this season? What did she learn about herself from others’ reactions to her? What did she learn about herself from watching herself? And a sub-question to that would be if she thinks this sort of experience is one that can lead to productive self-improvement, and if it is an experience she would recommend to others.

      3. She seems to have originally intended to bring attention to her charity and the plight of children who lost their legs. Does she feel she successfully did this? We only saw her charity once, and tho that scene was touching it did not give us much idea of what this type of charity can do. What does she wish could have been included.

      4. Recently there has been a rather graphic anti-smoking ad on tv that shows amputees. One who has lost both legs has what are basically sticks with shoes on the end. Which possibly suffice for him. But it made me realize how blessed Aviva is to have been able to receive new legs that look like real legs. So I wonder what she thinks the take-away is for amputees who watch this show.
      A second question in the same line: She was shown complaining a lot, telling over and over about the accident, associating her phobias with the accident. In short, the show seemed to be showing a woman who had a terrible experience in childhood that had affected her ability to live the rest of her life normally. So my question again is what is the take-away for amputees from how she was portrayed? What would she change? What would she say to them now?
      5. The show seemed to point out discrepancies in her phobias/abilities. For example, she was shown afraid of high places and unable to attend an event on a high floor. Yet she apparently can be in high places in some circumstances (there is said to be a Florida apartment that is on a high floor). Or another example, in her youth she apparently flew to Europe to model, yet she is now afraid to fly. I’d like to ask her to address these discrepancies. I wonder if the phobias have worsened, if they were exaggerated for the show, or why they seem discrepant.

      Thanks, TEB, for doing this interview.


      • Nancy says:

        I really think the answer to your number 1 question is Jill Zarin. Remember when she first started to go after Ramona once they arrives on the island? She said…
        “I heard that you were mean.” They do know each other in NY.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          Nancy, I agree. I’ve suspected for some time that Aviva was at the least talking with Jill, and perhaps consulting her for direction. Wonder if she’d admit this now.

        • chismosa says:

          Yes i feel she kept saying “i’ve heard things about you but…..” she KEPT harping on the I Heard About You stuff. Why? What gives? If her ex was such good friends with her– then how is that bad? I dont get it. So maybe the redhead is the reason

    • melthehound says:

      Ask her to define hypocrite. Then ask her how old Chester The Molester really is. Ask if she flies to Florida or anywhere else unaccompanied and was that Reid must go with, just for the show. Make her point out where HER definition of White Trash came from. I doubt those questions will get asked because any one of them would likely end the interview but I’ll look forward to reading about TEB’s efforts anyway. Please, PLEASE, do not ask about her damn leg.

    • cocfarm says:

      I have a question. Why is her fathers behavior and comments okay, but Sonja having some fun in st Barths is not okay? Why the double standard of, it’s okay for men but not for women. Saying he is you’re hero won’t explain the difference.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      1) I’d like to know why she has so much difficulty with Ramona, in particular. She’s able to give Sonja a pass, but has zero tolerance for Ramona – to the point that she blames Ramona for any behavior that she finds unacceptable in Sonja.

      2) Why so much hostility? Where is the anger coming from? Why is she so unable to let the slightest perceived insult go? What does it take to get resolution with her – execution of the offender?

      • Nancy says:

        Narcissists go postal if you changed them. Also she has Jill Zarin in her ear. I’m sure that’s why she is trying to bring Ramona down.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      1. Does she think Sonja slept with Harry Dubin while she was still married to him?

      2. Does she think some of her problems with Ramona subconsciously stem from childhood issues that were suppressed and/or never really addressed? For instance, does the fact that Ramona (and Sonja) likes to drink a lot remind her of her mother’s alcoholism? Is she displacing her own anger at her mother for the disease of alcoholism on to Ramona (and Sonja)?

      3. In the same vein as Question #2, does Aviva think that it is at all possible that she has suppressed and/or never really addressed rage at her father George for his obsession with sex and how this obsession manifests itself in his often inappropriate behavior? Does she, instead of addressing her anger at her father over this, displace her anger on to women or men that are “sexual”? Is this why she has a problem with Ramona and Sonja being comfortable with and even reveling in their sexuality?

      4. Similarly, has she ever considered that, just like it is possible that Ramona (and Sonja’s) behavior may have “triggered” some of her childhood issues, it is also possible that Aviva’s constant verbal abuse and berating of Ramona could have “triggered” Ramona’s memories of her own verbally abusive father?

      5. By the same token, has she ever considered that Aviva’s extreme dependence on Reid may also have triggered Ramona’s childhood issue of having extreme anger toward her Mother for refusing to leave her abusive husband (and Ramona’s abusive father) and for failing to protect Ramona and her siblings from his abuse because she was financially so DEPENDENT on Ramona’s father (instead of INDEPENDENT like Ramona)?

    • Orson says:

      I’m curious if she ever practiced law and if so, what sort of law?

    • Pghemtchick says:

      My only question pertains to the topic that landed me blocked by her on twitter:
      1. Does she care to comment, clarify, or apologize to the thousands upon thousands of women who have been sexually assaulted for implying women who are dressed a certain way ask to be assaulted?

      Considering her live comments, I pray her daughters/aunts/cousins/herself aren’t the victims of this type of violence that no one-woman or man should experience.

  52. Eastbayca says:

    this wasn’t shown on the during part 1 RHONY….discussing the Drescher’s arrival at St. Barts and the toplessness of the women.

  53. cdnfillie58 says:

    Who else thinks interviewing JZ on WWHL is a mere ploy to drum up interest in RHNY again?
    I really think viewers are losing interest in NY and OC…must have a few people worried at Bravo :P. I think they should look at other major cities … Like Chicago or bring back DC..IMO

  54. Lady Chatterley says:


  55. California35 says:

    BB – great blog. I finally read it! I kept trying to read it all day. I agree, what a difference in reunions. Not only from NJ, OC, etc…but even different from the NY usual reunions.

  56. Pghemtchick says:

    Way OT: Food question:

    Has anyone had basil gnocchi? If so, what type of “sauce” was used on them? I found some at a lil store and picked them up and have no clue what to put on them. I’ve seen a veggie/white wine mix and a mushroom/butter sauce, but am holding out hope someone here has a better (tried/tested) sauce. Thanks!

    • djprincessc says:

      Alfredo sauce!!!! Yum!!!! 🙂

    • disgrazia4 says:

      A mushroom sauce would be scrumptious. And of course you could do a red sauce. A simple red marinara would be the bomb especially if you have any tomatoes left from the garden. Use a high quality EVOO, saute garlic in a pot. When that smells gorgeous, add chopped fresh tomatoes, or whole tomatoes from the canned ( look for the ones that have tomatoes packed in tomato juice only not with the paste and a lot of other stuff). Squeeze the canned tomatoes in your hand or mash with a masher or chop with a knife, your choice. Add s and p to taste (remember, the salt draws out the flavor of the tomatoes). A tiny pinch of baking soda will draw out the acid, my Mom always says (this is a family secret and was very difficult to write). She also is not shy with the EEVO,”they love my cooking because they love the fat”. You only have to cook on low for 30-45 min and you are done. Consistency should be loose with small tomato chunks. With the gnocchi, because it’s so dense and filling, the point is to keep the sauce on the lighter side and don’t drown the gnocchi in sauce in the bowl when serving. Sliver some basil leaves to put on top and some grated Peccorino Romano, which has a sweeter taste or some Parmagiana. Yum.

      • Lisa Renee says:

        Disgrazia, that’s MY mother’s recipe. I am shocked you didn’t give her credit. That is so ummmmm disgrazia! Hahaha Hugs to you, Lisa

      • LaineyLainey says:

        i had never heard of the baking soda trick!! Learn something new everyday!

  57. princesspindy says:

    I just wanted

  58. princesspindy says:

    to get

  59. princesspindy says:

    The Blog to 500 comments!!!!

    I had to do it.

    • Lisa Renee says:

      PP, the number of comments jumped out at me, you sneaky little cherub! You are so funny, have a great day. Lisa

  60. Lisa Renee says:

    Good Morning all, great blog. I started it last night & finished it this morning.
    BB OMG! That was a great write up. I enjoyed it so much. NY reunion was better in that the let each other speak. My kid still says A la Diva is posing about her flying fear. I felt so validated lol.
    NMD thanks for all the tweets & new additions & overall good stuff I would never know about
    Detox, loved loved loved your take on my BB ladies. So much crazy in such little time. While I am diggin Malaysia dont forget how scrappy she was when she stepped to Laura (who looked like an amazon next to her), she held it down. Now she is sweet & meek-slays me. Still love my Draya!! The other ladies meh, they’re ok, they are not the worst on TV. I have no words for Jackie. Can someone be that delusional?? Kinda scary, not in a good halloween way.

    The obit about Lynn was bittersweet. I learned new things about her also. It was a wonderful tribute for an amazing friend who is very missed. Just wondering, do you think Lynn is mad the writer left out her bikini bar days & showroom floor model experience before she became famous??? Lisa

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