Joe Giudice Hit on Melissa Gorga? / Survivor / Life After Top Chef / Flipping Out / Duck Dynasty / Couples Therapy

Housewife News by NoMoreDrama

I don’t know what to believe when it comes to the Real Housewives of New Jersey.  Hollywood Life is reporting that a source has told them that Joe Giudice hit on Melissa when she was first dating Joey Gorga.  The source also said that Melissa found him creepy.  Here are some of the quotes: “He always complimented the way [Melissa] sings,” the source claims. “He told her she makes the most beautiful pregnant woman. He complimented her style, too.”  I call B.S.  If my brother-in-law said those things to me, I’d think he was being kind.  Seriously.  If that’s the best this source has got!!

But wait, there’s more. .  Radaronline is claiming to have photos and an eyewitness to Joe’s cheating in Vegas.  “I walked into Harrah’s bar around five in the morning and saw Joe Giudice conversing with a young girl,” Rosie exclusively told  “I know it wasn’t Teresa. She looked more like a working girl, although I can’t prove it. They walked out of the bar together to a more secluded area in the casino and played the slot machines for a bit.”    There were a bunch of photos.  They all seemed fuzzy to me.  Read full story here


It is so hard not to make fun of Jill Zarin. So very hard.  She’s taken to twitter about her “big” return to Bravo.  She just can’t stop talking about it.  So when someone tweeted her the following, she couldn’t help herself.  “Ask Andy if I begged or was invited.  Ask him.  Ask him. Andy – uhhhh- she asked (and asked and asked and asked and I needed filler) so I invited. And remember how I had a twitter conversation with Simon van Kempen about how Andy could edit the interview.  It seems like Jillzy has finally realized that Andy controls the interview.  Ruh roh!


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Survivor Philippines Oct 10, 2012 by MelTheHound

Create a Little Chaos

Welcome back… Here’s where we stand kids.

Kalabaw (Water Buffalo) Tribe (red)

  • Sarah Dawson, 28, Silver Spring, Maryland, insurance salesperson
  • Katie Hanson, 22, Newark, Delaware, 2011 Miss Delaware
  • Jeff Kent, 44, Austin, Texas, former Major League Baseball All Star
  • Dana Lambert, 32, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, cosmetologist
  • Carter Williams, 24, Shawnee, Kansas, coach
  • Jonathan Penner – Third time through- Evac’d last time with an infection.

Matsing (Monkey) Tribe (Blue)

  • Malcolm Freberg, 25, Hermosa Beach, California, bartender
  • Denise Stapley, 41, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, therapist
  • Russell Swan – Carried out last time due to dehydration

Tandang (Rooster) Tribe (Yellow)

  • Abi-Maria Gomes, 32, Los Angeles, student
  • Roberta “RC” Saint-Amour, 27, New York, banker
  • Artis Silvester, 53, Terry Town, Louisiana, computer engineer
  • Lisa Whelchel, 49, Dallas, former star TV’s “The Facts of Life”
  • Peter “Pete” Yurkowski, 24, Holmdel, New Jersey, engineering graduate
  • Michael Skupin – Returning player who passed out and burned the skin off of his palms after falling into a fire.

Last week, We lost the beauty pageant queen from Utah, Angie when her Matsing tribe once again blew the challenge for a third straight time. Back at the camps, Day 9, we first see Matsing since they are the ones who can’t seem to win anything. It isn’t for lack of effort there is just some dead weight there. Dead weight that can’t pull his own ass out of the water up a ladder. Dead weight that claims he almost ‘died’ for this game (as he reminds us for the 998th time).

Can we talk a second? Please, Russell, Cut the bullshit. You almost died because you were a dumbass and didn’t drink enough water and passed out. That’s what got your butt carted off of the island. Besides, I doubt you almost died. You are constantly surrounded by people including medics and there is usually a camera crew with you so please, kill the drama.

Anyway, it’s pouring rain, their fire went out, and they can’t get another one started. Later they are yucking it up about how they have to get it together, they have to win one or another one is going home. Denise notes that when there are three people in a group, one is always out and she has to bring everything she has to council or she’s going home. While Malcolm and Denise are trying to relax again, Russell is on the hunt for the immunity idol. The cameras show him pass by it at least a dozen times (so I guess they didn’t use it for kindling) and he still can’t find it. Has anyone ever lost their glasses only to discover they are wearing them? That’s kind of what this reminds me of. Russell even notes in his TH that it’s probably right in front of him, people are screaming there it is, pick it up! Yet, he never finds it. When there is a break in the rain, Denise comes back from gathering wood and sees Russell trying to hide something. He makes an excuse but Denise is suspicious that he may have found the idol. They search though his stuff in the shelter, no idol. They figure the best thing to do is blindside him and let him leave holding the idol, if he has it.

Over at Tandang, Peter (who is quite sneaky) has taken the hidden immunity idol clue (remember that Abi already has the idol), and strategically placed it among RC’s belongings in order to stir drama. He hasn’t told anyone he did this but it creates a rift and the final straw between RC and Abi who, no longer wants anything to do with RC. I kind of feel bad for RC here because she didn’t do what she’s being accused of by Abi. I kind of know what that feels like. Only Peter and of course Abi know that the idol has been found. Lisa has kind of become the sounding board for RC who is wondering, WTF just happened. Abi is talking about how she can no longer trust RC because ‘RC’ let the clue slip out. Umm, Pot – Kettle – Black. Lisa and RC also talk but Lisa notes in Her talking head, she’s just going to blow a little oxygen on the fire between RC and Abi (as well as the rest of them). So far, just noting this, Lisa has had it pretty easy in this game.

Meanwhile, the rain has stopped and we pay a visit to the Kalabaw (red) camp. The men are in the lagoon digging for clams and they discuss being a 3 person alliance and getting rid of the women first. Remember last week, Penner told Jeff that he has the idol so Jeff thought it in his best interest to partner up with the guy he originally wanted gone first. He says he doesn’t care which veteran was on his team, that had to be the first to go. Now that Penner has the idol of course, that has changed. Carter, the third man on the team of course wants in too. The fact that the tribe is now gender separated isn’t lost on the women. So for fun, let’s count here. As it stands, total in the game, there are still 7 women, 8 men. Pre-merge. We’re going to keep that tally in mind for awhile.

Challenge time..  The object of the game is to load two pots of rice on a balance to be carried across an obstical course where they will place the pots on individual stands.

Once they have 6 pots on the stands, they then have to swing a wrecking ball at them to break them. Once all 6 are broken, the game is over. First and second to do so, win immunity. Reward is also up for grabs. First place gets the fixings for a steak dinner including spices vegetables, and of course, the utensils to cook it with. Second place gets some utensils and some vegetables, no meat. Both prizes can be traded for a tarp. Loser, gets nothing but a trip to tribal council.

To navigate the course, they must step over on the way to deliver the pots and then crawl under on the return. Each player will go once to deliver two pots. Once all 6 are delivered, the entire team crawls back through the course so that one member can begin smashing the pots. I probably should have mentioned that with Matzing down three players, the other two had to sit out 3 players. All of the women from both teams were given a break. Denise is the only woman playing in this particular task.

The players swinging the wrecking ball are Malcolm, Artis, and Jeff, who is very late in the wrecking ball part of this. Red, (Kalabaw) isn’t looking very promising at this particular point but they quickly catch up. The way it shakes out is this. Artis wins it for yellow, it comes down to Malcolm and Jeff trying to smash their final pots. Both miss a couple times but in what I call a bit of a freak swing of the wrecking ball on the way back down, Red’s final pot is broken. Once again, Matzing is on the way to Tribal Council. I can’t say it was for lack of trying and in this case, I can’t blame the loss on anyone in particular. Yellow, of course will be enjoying their steak dinner, Red opts to stay dry and trades their prize for a tarp. After all, they have the good fishing kit complete with a canoe.

Russell, pulls a bitch move in my opinion, and slams their final pot on the ground and begins bitching. ‘Same Old Crap’. SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSore loser much? Probst asks WTF as the others look on in amazement at this tantrum (I think he just wrote his ticket home) and Russell thinks that because he tried his hardest, he should have won. He complains to God that he can’t seem to pull out a win. Sorry dude, that’s the way the rice pot shatters. You don’t always get your way. That’s pretty much what Probst said too. Russell says he’s a guy who was formed by God’s hands, and he is a perfect creature (cough cough, bullshit cough cough). For what it’s worth, I remember a couple weeks ago when Roxy was laying on the beach praying for a win, Denise in her TH said it’s okay to ask for guidance but God isn’t going to help any of them win. That’s on them (paraphrasing). Have I mentioned that I like this woman’s attitude and drive? Okay, enough of Russell’s tantrum.

Matzing returns to camp and of course, the talk of who to send home commences. Russell wants to get rid of Denise and keep the two ‘athletes’ in the game for strength. Malcolm pretends to agree. Of course, he tells Denise he’s voting Russell. Denise tells Malcolm that she’s voting Russell and whatever happens, happens. Russell and Denise are on the beach talking, and here comes the Hallmark moment (thank you, cocfarm). Russell tells us a story of when he was 8, he was jumped and beaten up by a couple other kids. Schoolyard scrap type stuff. He says for a long time, he was afraid until he caught one of them and punched him in the face and the kid started crying. That kind of shocked Denise, I don’t really know why but Russell says at that point, he wasn’t scared anymore. (been there myself)

The discussion turns to how are they going to vote and I don’t think anything was resolved. Each of the tribe thinks they are the swing vote, I think except for Denise, she has it in her mind that she’s voting Russell out. The way it shakes out is anything can happen. Earlier Denise noted she didn’t want this to go to a ‘rock vote’ (which I’ve never seen) so she would like to know where things stood. I think that’s why she was talking to Russell to begin with. I think she has him convinced she’s voting Malcolm. Before they head off to council, Denise notes that if she gets ‘bamboozled’, SHE screwed up and the guys played the game better than she did. Either way, three are leaving for council, two will return.

At council, the questions begin. Malcolm notes that if they aren’t saying different things to each other regarding the votes, they aren’t playing the game. Probst asks Russell about his outburst and he says that he has the right to expect perfection from himself every single time. Probst asks Malcolm who put him into the go to spot of swinging the wrecking ball. Malcolm takes responsibility for that and once again, throws himself under the buss for the loss. He missed the final pot twice. This may work amongst this tribe, but after the merge, he may want to stop doing that, especially if playing in teams (which they tend to do after the merge). The question comes up of why send Denise home… The answer? If she is there at the end, she’ll get the jury votes for the win (Russell). It’s nice that they really can’t come up with anything bad to say about her but Really? Just to make sure she doesn’t get the prize, I assume over either of them. Why should Malcolm stay? Because he has 20 years on Russell and a foot in height on Denise who, he says, is ‘an Ox of a woman’. I think he meant that as a compliment. Either way, both Russell and Malcolm believe that Denise is the biggest social threat in the game.

Vote time and let’s wrap this up… Russell goes first and votes for Malcolm. Malcolm goes second and votes for Russell. That leaves the decision to Denise. Since she cannot and would not vote for herself, One of those two is leaving.

If anybody thought Russell would survive this tribal council, guess again. Right now, Denise is loyal to her alliance with Malcolm and Russell’s torch has been snuffed.

With only two players left on Matzing (blue) there HAS to be a mix up of some sort. Each of them were talking as if they stayed, they knew they would be going to a new tribe. Probably split up but for both of them, they will be starting over, unless, Probst just merges the tribes. Keep in mind here, the Matzing Idol has yet to be found. Will they find it before changes are made and if so, do hidden idols travel with players into the merge? At any rate, I would not want to be in either of their positions right now. This is the end of day 10 my castaway friends.

See you next week when it looks like there will be another medical evac and until then,


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Life After Top Chef – Episode 2 by Keida

Still in Aspen, Richard and Jenn are going to run the 5k charity run.  Fabio and Jacopo arrive in a little red wagon.  Jenn’s never run before, and already Blais is beating himself up.  What a perfectionist.  Jacopo pulled Fabio for the entire race!  And then cut to Spike just waking up in his lovely bed back in his hotel room.  After this, Blais heads home.  Fabio is the ultimate schmoozer.  He and my dad would get along great.  Jenn checks out the drinks tent.    Spike also happens to be there.  There are a ton of great chefs there.  Tom Colicchio and Gayle are also there doing a demonstration.  Spike is on a panel!  For real?  Plus, he’s on there with Jacques Pepin!  Jenn is at the demo with Tom and Gayle.  Back to his panel Spike discusses the secret of being a tv chef.  Back in Atlanta, Blais visits one of his partner restaurants.  He has the chefs there do a tasting for him.  This restaurant was great.  Off to check the next one.

Okay, Fabio is in his car and on his way to an event.  He’s on the phone with a woman who is handling the charity event for her Greek Orthodox church.  She asks Fabio when he expects to arrive, but he tells her don’t freak out.  What?  She didn’t sound freaked out.  They end their conversation and Fabio explains that women tend to choose ways to communicate that usually p*ss him off.  What a jerk.  The woman calls back and tells him she’s offended for him to say she’s freaking out when he’s never even met her.  Fabio calms her down, she imagines he’s apologized, but OH NO, Fabio didn’t apologize because he didn’t say anything wrong.  I like Fabio, but he seems a little patronizing here.

In DC, Mike Isabella goes out with Spike for an early brunch.  Spike discusses his next business.  Jenn heads to Charlestown Food & Wine Festival.  Even though she doesn’t have backers for her restaurant, she’s going to honor her commitments.  That’s a true pro.  Although, holding onto a side of lamb on the back of a golf cart doesn’t scream professional.

Back in the car, Fabio gets a call from the producer of his internet show Chow Ciao who asks where he is.  Funny, he doesn’t tell this guy to stop freaking out.  At the offices, he meets with the producer and others, but gets a call from his mother.  She surprises him by speaking English.  After this meeting, Fabio calls the father of the church that he’s doing the charity for.  He complains about the girl Alex.  Seems a little jerky.

At the 2nd Flip restaurant, Blais checks on the staff.  This place doesn’t look nice.  The kitchen looks gross, the food looks greasy, and Blais is concerned.  He doesn’t like the food.  He sits down the chefs and asks the chefs what’s wrong with the dishes.  Then he asks them if they’re mad at him.  Huh?!  That was weird.  He’s the lead chef.  It just seemed weird.  Back to Jenn, she’s explaining why her backers backed out, which was because she wanted more ownership.  That would have to suck to be the name, the chef, and not own controlling interest of your restaurant.  She’s right.  Back in LA, Fabio arrives at the church and is nervous to meet Alex.  He’s avoiding her, and she’s talking smack to her girlfriends.  That’s unprofessional.  Maybe Fabio was right.  He starts the cooking lesson and of course he gets interrupted by a phone call.  Mmmm, this chicken looks good.  When Fabio is on, he’s ON.  This is the Fabio everyone loves.  He’s a professional.

Spike can play the piano?!  Interesting.  Spike has a new turtle, Fabio.  Yes that’s his turtle’s name.  He is mirroring Fabio, the guy not the turtle, who talks to his turtle.  That’s not weird.  It’s a pet.  I talk to my plants.  Spike’s mom shows up at his house.  Of course his mom criticizes Spike’s cooking.  She’s the boss.  They immediately talk business.  Aww!  His sister’s little baby girl is gorgeous!!!  What a cute baby!  Supper is a lovely family meal with teasing, laughing, and love.  I love those kind of meals.  Back to Blais’ house, Jazmin is sulking about his lack of home life.  I’m sorry, but give the guy a break.  He busts his butt for you and the kids, and you’re not being supportive.  Sorry, this is not for me to comment on.  I can’t imagine the pressure that their family is under.  Jenn and many chefs are enjoying each others’ company.  Back to Fabio.  He goes to a fast food place.  Really!?  While in line he updates his twitter.  He eats in his parking lot.  Poor thing, he seems so burned out and lonesome eating his food alone in the parking lot. Ah, the glamorous life.  The next morning he’s on his phone again.  He cannot relax because he’s still bummed about the situation with Alex.  Because of this, he’s taken a sick day.  He gets a visit from his life coach.  How LA!   This guy also acts as a chiropractor.  He’s definitely stressed.

Jenn has a fabulous apartment!  It’s spacious with a great view.  At least, I think it’s her apartment.  She has a very close relationship with her dad and heads over to visit her parents.  Her mom has had a stroke, so she’s still not back to 100%.  They bicker a bit back and forth.  I love that between parents.  Playful bickering, not for real.  Jenn rehabs her mom a bit.  Sweet.  Her dad shows a bit of worry on his face.  He’s definitely being brave by covering with snark.  What a sweet guy, sincerely.


Flipping Out – Bad Move By Keida

The house where they are currently living is West Knoll.  They are moving to Spring Oak, and Grammercy is their dream home.  Jeff is loving this move.  He especially loves that there’s a pool at Spring Oak.  Of course, when ordering lunch, Jeff advocates that Jenny be on the LA diet, don’t eat.  Yeah right.  Jeff and Jenny then head to his grandmother Patty’s house.  They are going to do a remodel for her.  Since his mother died when he was 18, she seems like a surrogate mother.  Her first words on the show are, “Jenny, I hate my grandson.”  Yep, she’s related to Jeff.  Jeff is already taking control.  Her furniture looks very 1960s.  Jeff teases her a bit with a bad painter who’s cheap at least.  She tells him, “Now’s not the time to get cheap.”  Yeah!  He warns her that there will by many workers coming in and out of her house, and she warns them not to let out her dog, “Or I will slit their throats.”  Oh-kay…  In Grammercy, Jeff has his sister-in-law and her partner looking through the house.  He’s getting their informal appraisal of the house.  He’s going to sell it?!  Jenny astutely says that Jeff is in love with the flip, and Grammercy will allow him to revive that business again.  They all decide that if they sell it, they’ll sell it for $2.995 million.  Of course, Jeff hasn’t said anything to Gage about it.  Instead he overhears.  Jeffrey, what a douche!  Sorry, but I don’t know how to say it any nicer.  That was a plain low, dirty move.  Back at Spring Oak, Jeff is deciding where people’s desks/office space will go, but Gage is not into it.  I’m wholeheartedly on Gage’s side.  Who cares that Jeff has bought the house with his own money.  They are together, which entitles Gage to a little appraisal of what direction their lives are going to take.  They both need to sit down and talk this out.

Zoila and Jenny head to the dress store, so that Zoila can try on her dress.  Jenny’s sister Krissann looks JUST LIKE HER!  I like the dress that Jenny chose.  I like that they can wear it in many different ways.  Jenny is working with a trainer, and of course, Jeff has to hassle her about it.  Love that Jenny says that he’s just jealous that he’s not putting on a wedding dress.  See, I told you.

While packing their house, Jeff begins the purging process.  He needs to come clean my house.  Although, why’d he throw away half a box of Cheerios?!  The move is going like clockwork.  Gage is being left behind, or at least he’s dragging his feet.  Jeff and Jenny both say that Jeff used to move many times a year.  I couldn’t see doing that.  How would you have roots?  You need a home, a heart for your family.  It’s funny that he doesn’t feel the same way.  Jeff knows that Gage is upset, so he gives him a room for an office instead of giving it to Zoila.  She calls him a beetch.  Gage is milking this a little, but I’m still on his side.

Andrew, Vanina, and Jeff head to Patty’s.  Andrew butters her up with some flowers.  Just like a mother, she shows family pictures of Jeff.  Wow!  Jeff’s mom is BEAUTIFUL.  Jeff looks like a stuck-up jock in high school.  The first bump in the road is Patty’s drapes.  She does not want to let those ugly things go.  I’m on Jeff’s side.  Get new ones!

Jenny is getting her wedding dress designed by Marc Bower.  I don’t like him!  He criticized a girl on America’s Next Top Model about being a plus sized model.  He’s a sizist jerk.  BUT, that gown he’s designed for Jenny is GORGEOUS!!!  Looking at homes in Malibu, Jeff seems to be foaming at the mouth to get back into the flipping game.  Jenny describes it as an addiction.  I wonder what he’s compensating for.  While furniture shopping for Spring Oak, Jeff is loving it.  Vanina makes a joke about not moving to Grammercy.  Did I mention that I don’t like her?  In the car ride on the way home, Jeff flips on Gage.  He basically tells Gage that this is how it is and you should be grateful.  He doesn’t respect Gage.  That’s where I’d start think about leaving.  If you don’t respect me as an equal partner, then why am I here?  I’m not arm candy, and neither is Gage.  Jeff, wake up.  Gage, you deserve better.  Either demand it or it’ll never happen.  Whoa, have I overstepped my bounds?  I mean these are real people in real relationships.

Zoila is not into the bridal bootcamp session.  Well, I guess Jeff bought the $300 chrome stools.  What a waste of money.  Instead of talking with Gage, Jeff takes some of his frustration on Zoila.  Since he’s sulking, Gage’s punishment is to stay at Spring Oak and finish the house.  This is definitely displaced anger.  In the car, Jeff says that if he breaks up with Gage, he’ll get a blowup doll.  For real, Jeff?  What are you doing?  Are you still in high school?  There’s a showdown at Grandma Patty’s.  The drapes.  Ugh.  In less than 5 minutes it’s over.  Really?  She backed down that fast?  Hmm, maybe she’s mellowing.  In the car ride home, Jeff checks in on Gage and FLIPS OUT about things not getting finished at Spring Oak.  Just finishing stuff, like picture hanging and other stuff.  Calm down Jeff.  You know, this looks familiar.  I think I’ve had freak outs like that too.  When things aren’t going just so, then I will start cussing up a storm.  Why?  I don’t know.

Back at Spring Oak, things seem calm.  Gage took care of the little details that Frank couldn’t finish.  There’s major tension in the house.  Of course, Jeff being 16 starts talking about Gage behind his back to Vanina and Andrew.  Finally, he puts on his big girl panties and talks to Gage.  Calmly and maturely.  He begins with thanking Gage for his work on Grammercy.  Gage brings up the baby.  Where would a baby fit in at Spring Oak.  Quickly, Jeff says that it’s going to have to be postponed.  He needs to take advantage of these opportunities now, and that needs to be his priority.  Gage’s face drops.  He says that he’s okay with selling Grammercy, but he’s not.  He wants a family, a child, and he wants these with Jeff.  Jeff is still 16.  He needs to figure out what he wants because I don’t think Gage is going to live without having a family.


Duck Dynasty – Season 2

Grass and the Furious & Driving Miss Sadie

Back-to-Back Episodes by Stars99

Grass and the Furious

The season opens with Willie, the CEO of Duck Commander and his brother Jase shopping at a hardware store.  Jase asks Willie if he could only have one weapon in the woods – what would it be?  Willie decides he would want a ninja throwing star.  Jase says, “Willie has this obsession with ninjas.”  But Jase launches into Captain Bringdown mode and says, “You don’t have the body type for a leotard… I think there’s a weight limit for ninjas.” Jase continues talking about Willie, “When he takes off running, he looks like two possums fighting over a dead squirrel in a tow suit. I think he’s more like a sumo wrestler than a ninja.”

Outside in the parking lot, they meet up with their childhood friend, Phillip McMillan who challenges them to a riding lawnmower race that’s happening in a few days.  Jase explains, “You can talk a redneck into any challenge.  That’s why so many rednecks die in such strange ways – cuz he would rather die than be disrespected.”  Jase and Willie go back to Duck Commander headquarters and they start talking about the challenge to the guys who are there making the duck calls.  They all agree that they hate Phillip McMillan cuz one of the workers said that Phillip had stolen his favorite hat one time – and as a result his head got sunburned.  Willie chimes in that Phillip made fun of his beard.  Si, Willie and Chase’s uncle, holds up two fists and says, “Never insult a man’s beard, ‘cause you’ll either get ‘Thunder’ (the name of the 1st fist) or ‘Lightening’ (the name of the 2nd fist) – either one.”  As a result of all this information, when Willie told them about the lawnmower race challenge – they were all up for it. They decided they had to leave work that very minute to gather their lawnmowers and take them over to Willie’s house to figure out which one is the fastest.

Meanwhile, at Phil and Miss Kay’s house (Willie and Jase’s parents) – Miss Kay is showing the granddaughters how to make gumbo – but Phil knows instantly that something is up.  Miss Kay is blackmailing Phil with gumbo so that he will put together a country cottage playhouse for the granddaughters.  After spending some time with several of his granddaughters, Phil is thankful he and his wife had all boys… cuz the girls are just so overwhelming to him and he wonders if there is any hope for them because of their girliness. Of course he decides put the cottage together without directions.  I mean, who needs directions? After he’s done, the granddaughters say that it really doesn’t look like the picture on the box. Then one of them made a comment that there weren’t any windows.  Being solution oriented, Phil whipped out a chainsaw and cut a convenient window right through the side of the roof of the cottage.  One of granddaughters called the structure their duck blind – and so they decorated the outside of the cottage with branches, etc. for camouflage – just like you would a duck blind.  They pretended to be duck hunters just like their daddies.  This made grandpappy proud and he figured the granddaughters would be fine after all.  He offered a crisp $1 bill to anyone who successfully shot one of the of the duck decoys along the rail with the beebee gun.  At first no one was successful but with a little bit of coaching, Mary finally hit the mark… and made sure she got the money.  Phil boasted, “Ladies and gentlemen, one yuppie girl moved just a little bit closer to bein’ a redneck.”

The entire Duck Commander Workforce participated in the Riding Lawnmower Time Trials that was meant to test the lawnmower’s motor as well as each participant’s driving skills and their overall driving demeanor.  They all were riding mowers of all sizes and levels of repair and all of the mowers were made before 1995.  One guy even brought his push mower cuz he didn’t even own a riding lawnmower.  The push lawnmower man was actually doing really well and almost won the whole thing before he tripped and did a face plant into the ground.  Of the experience, Jase says, “Do I feel stupid? Oh yeah, I’m on a lawnmower in Willie’s backyard with other grown men.  Would I rather look stupid or be disgraced by a redneck? – I’ll take stupid every day.”

It was determined that Willie’s lawnmower was the best and so they decided to take it back to the shop and work on it to give it more power.  Willie says, “You get a redneck workin’ on a mower, and you’re gonna get something awesome. You get five rednecks working on a mower, and you’re gonna get something epic.”  After working on the mower for a while… and tearing it completely apart almost beyond repair, they figured out that they actually knew someone who professionally built lawnmowers.  Willie is exasperated that this information didn’t come out earlier – and he was told that it was because they really didn’t want to go back to work building duck calls that day.

The day of the lawnmower race, they show up to the venue with a lawnmower they borrowed from their friend Jimmy Red.  They know his mower is fast as crap and they are super confident they’re gonna win…. That is until they see Phillip McMillan’s mower.  Then they saw the track on which the race was going to be held.  Then they saw the other drivers and their lawnmowers.  Willie said, “When I accepted Phillip’s challenge, I didn’t know that death could occur. I’m not quittin’ cuz I’m not a quitter – but I am a little concerned.”  Willie confidently put on his American flag helmet and stared certain death right in the face.  The race started…. And Willie is driving on the inside of the track like 8 mph while the others are zipping by and lapping him.  The guys on the other lawnmowers are described as “supersonic fast” The only thing going on in Willie’s mind is, “Just don’t die – cuz then Phillip will win.”  Phillip then has some severe engine trouble and is barely able to remain in the race.  This gives Willie great hope – cuz he figures he doesn’t have to actually win the race – he just has to beat Phillip.  The race announcer declared, “It’s nail biting to see who can take LAST place.” Willie doesn’t win… but he beats Phillip! Woo hooOOoooo!  Willie was terrible – but at least he didn’t take last!


Driving Miss Sadie

Today is the day that Willie’s daughter, Sadie is scheduled to take her driver’s test.  Willie is taking Sadie on a driving lesson in the Duck Commander parking lot.  He’s trying to teach her how to parallel park by using a saw horse and garbage cans as markers.  The employees are sitting around the loading dock acting as the peanut gallery.  She demonstrates she’s not so great at parallel parking.  Everyone goes back to work.

Meanwhile, grandson John Luke brings his girlfriend, Emily, to meet his grandparents – Miss Kate and Papaw.  He hems and haws as he’s talking to his Papaw, and finally stammers it out that he wants to take her out on the river to show her how to catch fish.  Papaw Phil remembers what was on his mind when he was their age – and decides he’s gonna crash their date and go fishin’ with them. Papaw Phil says, “I think our culture needs more grandpas riding along with their grandson and his girlfriend.” As they’re boating, Pawpaw imparts some advice to his grandson, “John Luke – never touch her below the neck until you sign on the dotted line – that’s being a gentleman about it.” He admonishes them not to even entertain the thought of sex – no matter what you see on tv or on the movies.  Phil thinks the worst thing would be if one of the grandkids came up to him told him they had herpes.  He knows where that comes from.  Then Papaw Phil starts listing off venereal diseases as he’s driving the boat.  Emily can only utter, “Wow.”  Then Pawpaw Phil imparts a pearl of wisdom, “Better a good day’s catch of fish than a lifetime of crabs.”

Si, Willie’s uncle, decides that it’s up to him to teach Sadie how to drive and so they sneak off.  Willie comes out to the workshop looking for his daughter.  Everyone is saying they haven’t seen her. But no one is looking him in the eye – and he knows something is up.  He sees Si’s chair is empty.  The next thing you see is Si driving with Sadie in the passenger seat – and Si is weaving back and forth across the road saying, “It’s on like Donkey Kong!”

Sadie says to Si, “Ummm, did you see that sign that said ‘35’?” Si responds, “What about it?” Sadie reluctantly says, “You’re going 55.” Si clarifies the posted speed limit by saying, “Awww, that’s just a suggestion.”   Si helpfully tries to consolidate the rules of the road into 3 handy rules to remember.  First, he tells her she has to put her hands on the 3:00 and 9:00 o’clock position on the steering wheel.  Sadie isn’t so sure about that one, but she is too polite to contradict him.  The second rule according to Si, is that you have to establish your dominance.  When driving, you always have to be on offense – never on the defense.  And the third rule of the road according to Si, is that you should always have iced tea on hand to keep yourself refreshed.  He throws in another piece of pertinent information – that she has to pay attention to the people around her because as he says, “You see those pedestrians right there?  I might have killed them both if I hadn’t been paying attention to them.”  They pull into the Duck Commander parking lot and her dad Willie was pacing up and down the parking lot.  Dad Willie wants to know if she had learned anything from Si.  Sadie said, “Pedestrians need to watch out.”  Si interjects that it’s a dangerous world out there.  Sadie also said that Si told her from his days in Vietnam, that you could get a pretty good fightin’ chicken for under $20.  Dad Willie warned Sadie, “If you’re gonna pass this driving test… you have to forget whatever he told you.”

Meanwhile, back at dating headquarters, Papaw Phil is gutting a fish right in front of Emily.  Miss Kay comes in and says that it reminds her of their dating days.  Papaw Phil says, “I think when you clean fish, it’s a great first date. It’s romantic.” Later, Miss Kay is showing Emily how to cook fish.  She is impressed that Emily wants to learn.  She lets her in on a secret that the way to a Robertson man’s heart is through his stomach.  She says that all you hear about is sex, sex, sex – but you can only have sex for a little while.  She logically reasoned out that you have breakfast, lunch, dinner and all kinds of snacks in between – thus demonstrating how much more time is spent eating versus the time in just having sex.  Miss Kay also imparts another great hint, “It never hurts to have a good pan of cornbread.”

Willie is determined to teach Sadie how to drive and sets up a duck decoy obstacle course.  He even bribes her that for every duck decoy that she DOESN’T hit – she will receive $20.00.  He gets in the car with her, and her hands are at the 9:00 and 3:00 o’clock position on the steering wheel just like Si had taught her.  He corrects her, and she moves them to 10:00 and 2:00.  In record time, Sadie demolishes all of the duck decoys – but fortunately, the wooden pedestrian is still safely intact.  Uncle Jase decides it’s time for him to step in and teach her how to drive.  After they make their getaway, he drives her into the woods to a jeep.  Jase says, “Your redneck chariot awaits.” Jase asks Sadie if she felt comfortable driving at any point that day… and Sadie immediately said, “No.”  Jase pointed out that she had spent all day in the parking lot practicing but that she hadn’t gotten any better.  He welcomed her to the woods.  He explained his thought process, that if you are thinking about too many rules that you will then forget the fun of driving.

Eager to show her uncle that she knows what she’s doing, Sadie puts her hands in the 10:00 – 2:00 o’clock position on the steering wheel and asks, “Looking good?” Jase responds, “No, you’re gonna hafta forget all of that.  When you’re driving down the road and you have a flaming hot donut in your hand – you can’t be worrying about 10:00 – 2:00 o’clock… You’re trying to drive and eat your hot donut.  Look, there’s no rules here… just fire it up.”  Jase describes that he is giving her the art of driving according to the woods.  She begins to drive – and she’s feeling the freedom – they’re flying through the woods.  Jase says, “I’m trying to supply her with confidence…  with freedom…  and… safety.”  Famous last words as they truly go off-roading headfirst down a bank into a water-filled ditch.

They arrive back to Sadie’s house really late – too late for her to take her driver’s test.  Her mom and dad are there – and talk about trying to reschedule it for later that day.  Sadie wisely assesses her own driving ability by pointing out that she hit 8 duck decoys, knocked over a trashcan and drove into a ditch… and that postponing her driving test might be the best possible solution.  After she leaves, her dad and her uncle comment about what a terrible driver she is… Uncle Jase says that she’s, “Hide the puppies terrible.”  Dad Willie agrees.

Willie concludes, “I’m angry – but in this family, you gotta learn to get the positives out of anything. Sadie came back alive – positive.  She missed her driving test – positive.  She won’t kill anyone on the streets for another week – positive!”  He then decides he needs to figure out how to get some armor for the car.


Couple’s Therapy Episode 2 by Lulu and her Husband

`Her blog`

Opens where it left off the previous episode.  Nik and Doug have a heated exchange over Doug and Courtney’s marriage.  Thomas Carusso is there to keep the peace.  Nik is quick to take cheap shots at Doug calls him a “child molester.”

Doug and Courtney’s therapy session

Due to her age in California she is not allowed to film beyond 6 hours with Doug and stay at the same residence.  This couple brings alot of attention seeking mainly because of how Courtney dresses.

Group therapy

Topic: Darkest hour of their relationships

Doug and Courtney- An argument over yet again the way Courtney “dresses” brought negative attention. The fight escalated and Courtney said bad things to him that she regrets.  He feels very insecure and that she will leave him for another man.  Dr Jen is quick to point out it’s because of the way Courtney dresses.

Alex and Simon-A fight that escalated to the point that Alex said she wanted a divorce.  Alex felt at that moment it was a “who gets the last word game.”  Visibly you can see she is upset while  Simon is emotionally shut down and that is part of what makes Alex angry.

Jojo and Tiny- The moment Jojo was released from the hospital after one of his organs attacked him.  His  first request was to stop by a store and buy alcohol.  Tiny lost it and berated him.

Nik and Shayne- Nik didn’t cut ties with all of his past girlfriends.  After a month of marriage a women sent him a nude photo of herself.  Shayne discovered it and lost it.  This women is a sore spot in their marriage.

2 Short and Monica

2 Short’s professional image is that of a womanizer.  He attracts all the wrong women.  When he dated Monica they had a normal relationship but eventually she ended it.  She couldn’t handle the constant attention 2 Short would get from women.  He still loves her and seems like she loves him.

Newbie meetup

2 Short hits it off with all the men who know him one way or another.  Nik is surprised that he would be there given his past behavior.  When 2 Short meets Courtney he is shocked to hear how old she is and by the way she dresses.  He’s seen many types of women from all walks of life.  He comments that even a stripper doesn’t dress that way all the time only a child would.

Doug and Courtney

Dr Jen is wondering whether their relationship is pure.  She asks them how they met.  Courtney explains he was teaching an acting class.  Over time they became very close and at one point Doug called Courtney’s mother to ask for her consent.  Courtney’s family consented to their marriage.  Dr Jen then asks why they didn’t wait till she was 21.  Doug is quick to state that he couldn’t wait he was soo in love with her.  She then tells Courtney that she presents herself in a hyper-sexual manner.  I don’t think Courtney understood the question.  Her response was that she likes to wear those type of clothing.  The next question is was Courtney ever sexually molested.  She is very quick to so No never.  Something happened that’s for sure. The subject changes to Doug’s family.  He voices how upset and devastated he is by his family disowninf them.  Dr Jen wonders if their relationship is genuine or something destructive.

Nik and Shayne

Nik voices his passion for exposing people’s horrible secrets.  Dr Jen feels the “dirty” is a factor in why their relationship is suffering.  Nik feels his “site” is therapeutic and empowers people??  While Shayne is very uncomfortable with the “site”  She hates his job and the nudity on the site.  She asks that Nik takes down only the nude photos.  Nik says no that’s how he makes money.  She feels disrespected and in an act to punish him she goes on very expensive shopping sprees.  Dr Jen voices that she needs to open up more to Nik and be vulnerable.

Dinner of Hell

Courtney sets the table in a barely holds everything in bikini.  She flirts with Nik who pretends he is completely disgusted by her after all she is a “child.”  At dinner Shayne asks her to cover up and of course she says no.  Alex the voice of reason asks her if she dressed that way just to seek attention.  Of course Courtney is quick to say no.  I really don’t think she understood what Alex said.  Honestly as a viewer I am questioning why are they on the show.  All the other couples are sincere and then they add the one couple who are over the top.  It’s killing the dynamic of the show since it’s continuously being centered on them.

Shayne’s breakdown

Shayne questions why she is there.  At that moment Thomas Carusso asks her if she needs to talk.  She breaks down feels the environment is toxic.  She is having major separation anxiety from her 8 month old daughter.  At this point she just wants to leave.

~His Blog~

The Opening

Watched the opening sequence and was struck by a few things about both Nik and Doug as they went back and forth. That opening sequence set a subtext for the rest of the show.

In a limited way, I feel bad for Doug but also find fault with him. Having been to places where woman of significantly younger age are on the norm married to older men, I try to curb my own knee jerk reactions to this kind of relationship. Culture bias of the the concept can be pretty deep. So I try to be objective about the fact that a sixteen or seventeen year old whether we like it or not isn’t necessarily a child. But Doug is more paternal to his wife then spousal, a fact exacerbated by Courtney’s seeming stunted maturity. I could say Nik was out of line goading Doug about his wife. Yet it is hard to blame Nik when you see Doug acting more like a father not wanting to see anyone ‘hurt his baby girl’ rather then telling another married man to come on down off his faux moral superiority and deal with his own marriage problems.

Nik has some real issues, which are making him miserable and drove him to take out his frustrations on Doug. It wasn’t mentioned specifically in the segment, but Nik and Shayne had a daughter only eight months before this was filmed. So Nik not knowing any better is wading through the loneliness of being a first time father as he tries to figure out what happened to his marriage. Of course the answer is his wife had a kid, and nothing is ever going to be the same again. Sorry Nik, the cool, hip, married, fun young couple thing you had with Shayne is gone. You got something better, but also infinitely harder, fatherhood in a marriage. Also with the post pregnancy body issues his wife is having, the anxiety, etc, it must totally suck to be Nik with a Courtney going about the house. Nik knows having to see Courtney can, and most likely will, be upsetting to Shayne as she unfairly judges her own-self. And dealing with Shayne’s reaction, real or imagined, as she perceives her husband reacting to how Courtney dresses is only going to make Nik even more miserable. Combine that with the candor Nik has to write with, and the photo materials for his blog, being at that house has got to be like wearing two shoes filled with broken glass for Nik, no matter how he steps he is getting hurt.

Group Therapy Session and New Arrivals

I don’t think that Alex gets her husband Simon completely. He isn’t being granite, that is male emotional pain right there that she isn’t quite registering. It is pretty obvious that on some points Simon, like most men myself included, does not have the emotional strength of woman. He wasn’t holding back, as much as he wasn’t able to share in the way she’d expected and wanted.

Jojo and Tiny have more an Irish Catholic marriage than anyone in my entire family. He’s was on the sauce, she is at the point of deciding between being a co-dependent and not trying to save his life anymore. It was a flashback to about half the married people that surrounded me as a kid. I think watching them for the remainder of the season will be a little hard, they remind me of the people I knew as a child making me fond of them, but I also remember where those people they remind me of have ended up.

I liked hearing the details of Monica and Todd’s relationship, and why they are on the show and what they are hoping to gain from it. You can just tell Monica is the smarter of the two, but at her wits end trying to figure out how Todd just ‘doesn’t get it’ when it comes to realize what an amazing woman she is, and how she can, and will walk on him. And it seems that Todd really doesn’t know either as he works out being himself, and being 2 Short still.

The Dinner

Getting back to the subtext set by the show opening. Wow, Courtney’s immaturity leads her to be a bigger emotional terrorist than my two year old. This girl really knows how she can use her appearance to draw attention to herself, and also how to inflict that on others lives. While she may not seem to have it all there up stairs, she played that entire dining room of people like Gary Kasparov would have a chess board. I’m not saying she is a Doctor Doom level mastermind or anything, but she damn well knew how to create drama for Nik and Shayne, and keep Doug wrapped around her finger. Everyone else at the table sort of looked like they just wanted to get going on with their lives, but were stuck watching the ‘Courtney’ train wreck. Wisely they chose to stay in the ‘shark tank’ and not get themselves involved with it.

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468 Responses to Joe Giudice Hit on Melissa Gorga? / Survivor / Life After Top Chef / Flipping Out / Duck Dynasty / Couples Therapy

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning all. I hope your day is going better than mine. I’m working at home and my phone won’t work so into the office I go. I leave my cozy home. 😦

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      Sorry to hear that, Powell – gotta have the tech working, don’t we? Hope your day turns around.

      • Sorry Powell! I hope your day gets better and you get back to cozy! Hugs!

      • Powell says:

        Lady C & MarDrag I made it in. Ugh! I hate when you start working and get in your groove. IT fixed the problem when I got to work so I hope everything works my next work at home days.

        • Yeah IT…but sorry your day at home got interrupted. What did people do when there was no technology? It’s funny, because I am old enough to remember typewriters and that purple ink backed paper to make copies…can’t remember what it was called….but my 31 yr old daughter grew up in the tech age and honestly does not know how we did things before computers, etc. It made me think one day when we were talking about it. We laughed about what would happen if it all shut down…but it is not so funny in reality!

          Hope the rest of your day goes well!

          • NJBev says:

            Mardrag, was it called “carbon paper”?
            Like in a carbon copy? 😉

          • trudie says:

            I remember when my company got its first Wang computer. It was set up in a open space and they had a sheet for us to sign up to use it. Once we all got computers in our offices (years later) I had an older man who worked for me who refused to give up his typewriter. Oh, how the world has changed.

            • NJ Bev, you made me laugh. Wink Back! What does that say that I couldn’t even recall that? Carbon..wha…?

              trudie, the first company I worked for that got computers, a small publishing company, left them sitting on a table in the middle of the room unplugged for 2 weeks because no one wanted to touch them. Another gal and I said, ok, give us the manual, we’ll see if we can get them fired up. So funny…no tech support then either! Wang…love it.

              Yes indeed, the world has changed. 🙂

          • melthehound says:

            Did your daughter ever DIAL a phone? Or get up off of sofa to change the channel on the Television? Does she know what a (music) Record really is?

            • Hey now….she’s an awesome young lady who is very independent and brilliant. 😉
              She is the one who has my back technologically. It’s just that, it is interesting to note the difference in the world from generation to generation. And no, I do not think she ever had to dial a phone. Push button was around then! LOL!

              • melthehound says:

                I was just trying to get a grip on where her technology experience began. I’m sure she’s everything you say she is. My grand-nephews and grand-niece will likely not remember ever having a television with a picture tube. They certainly won’t remember a time before HD TV or CGI created movies. I don’t think any of them have ever seen a phone that’s wired to a wall or a phone without an LCD screen for that matter (the oldest is 8).

                • Computers were in schools when she went, and wireless soon thereafter, ditto cell phones, etc…..and the rest is history! It has become so second nature now. I wonder what we will be looking at in 25 years! 😉 (Provided I last that long! LOL)

                  • RealhouseWifeva says:

                    That’s interesting, I’m 32 and I still remember the days of typewriters and no cell phone. We got our computer when i was a teen and it was dial up connection. Pagers were for drug dealers and cell phones were for the rich, when I was young. Lol

            • trudie says:

              My middle daughter bought a princess phone at a garage sale for her apartment! She thinks it is so retro!

          • catmom1 says:

            Don’t know if I should be proud or embarrassed to remember the purple ink. You’re thinking of mimeograph. Had a very distinctive smell with it.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              I close my eyes, and I can still smell it…and the copies were so cool to the touch. I wonder how many brain cells were compromised from sniffing that stuff.

          • shamrockblonde says:

            Hi mardrag – it was called a carbon copy – where I worked at the time, all carbon copies were required to be destroyed after each use – other places not so much – they were messy and your fingers sometimes got all inky from them – ick –

  2. Morning everyone! Do I have the honor of being first? Well I just had to say that after thinking about Jillzy possibly returning to RHNY I literally almost jumped out of my skin. If anyone thinks that RHNY won’t turn into a version of RHNJ if that woman comes back on to the show then they’re delusional. Jill manufactures drama and manipulates and schemes constantly. She will go right back to her old ways of attacking people, making snide comments and causing drama with her nauseatingly nasal voice that reminds me of my mother in law and makes me want to shove a rusty fork in my eye….I beg of Bravo please leave this woman OFF of the show. It’s bad enough with Aviva and her soapbox, I don’t need Jill and her nostril-licking dog……

    • Rebecca says:

      I think she’s already reminded Andy why he shut the door in her face last year. She’s all over the web bragging about calling out Andy for firing her. Does she ever learn?

    • Eastbayca says:

      She is saying in interviews that other networks approached her but she wasn’t ready and if she was to do a show it would be Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond type of show (JILL YOU ARE NOT FUNNY).
      After getting fired, didn’t she disrespect Bravo, the new housewives with her silly polls, Ramona in the press? Didn’t she say she wouldn’t come back to Bravo for a million bucks?
      I don’t think any networks wants to hire Jill…look at her GAA deal she was barely on.
      18 months down the road she hasn’t let go….talk about holding a grudge.

      • Powell says:

        Eastbayca I think she’s the only one that hasn’t let it go. I believe she was saying other networks wanted her. I’m surprised Andy us having her on cause your right she disrespected the network.

    • Powell says:

      Obsessed you are right. JZ will do the same thing. Gloria has taught JZ & her sis to have a take no prisoners attitude. The viewers don’t need that. Her tweet is funny. She may not have begged for WWHL but they didn’t come to her she went to them. She asked and Andy invited her. In my book It’s still begging cause she’s the one who got fired and said she wouldn’t come back for a million dollars.

  3. Good Morning! Rain finally! Yeah!

    My absolute favorite part of Life After Top Chef last night was Fabio eating a Double Double, Animal Style from In & Out Burgers (I mean boogers)! OMG, the BEST burgers ever for a fast food place. Loved it! Going up to read the rest of the post.

    And….for all you lovely people, a little something different on the blog today. Enjoy!

    • amalfi says:


      I think that whole scene with Fabio was beyond sad. He is knocking on heart attack’s door with his schedule, nightly vodka and nutella and double doubles eating in dark corners of parking lots.

      He is my favorite though. So charming and funny.

      • Thank you for the the correct pronunciation amalfi! LOL! And I do agree, he should take better care of himself….he seems to be on overdrive, not good. The parking lot scene was sad….but, like you, gotta love the guy. Except for his (perhaps) condescending attitude toward women. I kind of saw it come through last night and thought…please don’t burst our bubble Fabio! We will have to see as the shows go on.

        Have a great day!

  4. Rebecca says:

    Since these ridiculous stories about Melissa are coming out like clockwork to try and make her relevant, let’s play a guessing game.

    What will Melissa’s next lie be?

    I think these two aspiring astrophysicists will be filing bankruptcy soon and will blame Teresa because she and Juicy owe her husband money, say $500K for the line.

    • PJ says:

      LOL! Stop giving her ideas!

    • lovemamaearth says:

      ROFL Coma toast.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I’m still trying to let the ‘insider’ remark about how Joe always used to praise her singing sink in. Didn’t most of her singing use to happen in her closet or the shower before then? What was Juicy doing in Melissa’s shower? Inquiring minds want to know.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Melissa’s stories are sad – Teresa assaulted her at Gia’s birthday, Teresa called Antonia ugly, now Juicy hit on her eight years ago….so lets play! Juicy wants me to be a surrogate so he can have a baby boy!

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Yes, they are very sad. It’s like she’s throwing tons of mud at the wall in the hopes that SOME of it STICKS and brings Teresa down. She’s claimed that she’s been “protecting” Teresa, but now that “Strippergate” has happened, she is going to tell us all what a REALLY horrible person Teresa is.


        She was NEVER “protecting” Teresa, and this is proved by the simple fact that she was conspiring with Danielle and giving Danielle false, “horrible” information about Teresa. She did that 1 or 2 years before she even got on the SHOW!

        I FIRMLY believe that it was TERESA, and NOT Melissa, who was “set up” by “Strippergate.” This allows Melissa to look like “the victim” and gives her the new “excuse” she needs to do magazine interviews making up all of these horrible LIES (or embellishments, at least) about Teresa:

        LIE #1: Teresa assaulted me at Gia & Milania’s birthday party (Never mind that when she was on “The View” and SPECIFICALLY asked if there had ever been any VIOLENCE between her and Teresa as a result of their issues, she said “NO.”. Why didn’t she bring the “arm twisting story” up THEN? It was a perfect opportunity to do so. She had a national platform. Also, if Teresa twisted her arm at the party, why didn’t she Tweet (or get her SISTERS and/or her nasty MAKEUP ARTIST to tweet about it. She seems to LOVE keeping her hands clean and instead have her close friend and immediate family members do the blatant trashing of Teresa on Twitter) and/or do an interview about it THEN? She waits almost a whole YEAR later to say this. LIE, LIE, LIE!!)

        LIE #2: Teresa called Antonia “ugly”. In Melissa’s very FIRST BRAVO blog where she was listing all of the ways Teresa was “horrible” to her and her husband, Joey, why did she not mention that THEN? Her conspiring with Danielle already proves she was NOT “protecting” Teresa at that time. In her very first episode, she says (and still claims) that she and Teresa were NOT getting along. Why not mention Teresa’s doing this THEN? (because, IMO, it is a LIE).

        LIE/POSSIBLE TRUTH#3: Joe Giudice hit on her. I list this as a “possible truth” because Joe could have indeed hit on her. He does strike me as a cheater. HOWEVER, if this indeed took place, I’m pretty SURE Joey Gorga would have confronted Joe Giudice and EVEN mentioned it on the show before now. He went on and on, in his VERY FIRST episode, about how “Joe Giudice has turned my own Father against me!!” Wouldn’t THAT be the time for Joey to ALSO say, “And he HIT ON MY WIFE!!” Melissa CLAIMS she and Joey tell each other EVERYTHING. So, I’m SURE she told Joey about it — UNLESS she gave in to Joe Giudice’s advances, and she KNOWS that Joe Giudice CANNOT say this and respond in this way because it would cause more problems for him.

        I’ve said it before, and I will say it again: Teresa and Joey are in the SAME position when it comes to their spouses: IMO, Teresa loves Joe MORE than HE loves HER, and Joey loves Melissa MORE than SHE loves HIM. So, I would not put it past either Joe or Melissa to have fooled around because they both strike me of being on pretty shaky ground morally. Joe does not really try to HIDE this by acting like he is a GOOD, CHRISTIAN boy. Melissa, on the other hand, TRIES to PORTRAY this IMAGE of being this good, wholesome, Catholic/Thank You Jesus (even though she cannot even say her Sign of the Cross correctly) person when my INSTINCTS tell me that she is ANYTHING BUT!!

        Why is she NOT getting covers of magazines and interviews based on her music career? Why do her covers and interviews ALWAYS have something to do with Teresa and consist of the MAJORITY of the interviews being MAINLY ABOUT TERESA (and how she has “victimized” poor, innocent, little Melissa. GMAFB!)?

        I will tell you why: because Teresa is the MOST interesting thing about Melissa, and it is the ONLY thing which makes her RELEVANT when it comes to public interest and the fame she so desperately seeks. That must suck for her. And it’s going to get OLD pretty fast. I’m tired of it already.

        Find a NEW angle/storyline, Melissa!

        • Powell says:

          Detox why is she not getting nag covers about her music? She’s a “Birthday Party Singer, Wedding Singer” & the mags aren’t interested. They just want to print anything against T. If she could really sing she’d be on the cover of Rolling Stone.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I wouldn’t hire her to sing at any of my parties. I just don’t think her voice is strong enough to power it out through a 3-5 hour party/reception where the guests want to GET….DOWN (Well, MY guests at least)!

    • kit9 says:

      Well if she really wants to copy Teresa, I’d say, 2 good lies a day, at least.

  5. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Cloudy and maybe some rain today in AZ. YEA! I just can’t get into Life after Top Chef. I like Spike and Mike I cameos. Jenn seems to have mellowed a bit.

  6. Survivor is sure off to a slow start with the Blue team dropping like flies. The other teams don’t get much air time since their shirting alliances really don’t matter if they don’t go to Tribal Council. Wow Russell. Calling himself perfection. Just wow. What cracked me up in the challenge was how exhausted he was. He went second and had time to recover as Denise did her leg – but that short crawl back to the map had him laying on the ground face first while Denise held his hand (probably to make sure he didn’t take it off the mat and disqualify him.)

    • plainviewsue says:

      I hate when this happens. I think Malcolm and Denise are great players & got saddled on a terrible tribe.

      The other tribes can sit their weaker players which makes it really unfair. I think they are going to have to mix up the tribes next week.

    • melthehound says:

      I’m glad Russell is gone. I didn’t like him day one. He’s a short sprinter, not a marathon runner and unfortunately for him, his brawn and his age, worked against him. If he’d taken it like a man instead of having his hissy fits, I might have respected him more.

  7. Rebecca says:

    Wow – my comment actually got posted on Kathy’s Bravo blog.

    Get over yourself. You had last week’s blog to explain your apology and instead you undermined your uncle again. Talk about an insincere apology. You’re not made for primetime, lady.”

    Does anyone know why NJ is the only show that removed the past cast member blogs this year?

    • To cover the trail of lies
      The interns did it
      Season 1? There was no season 1!

    • amalfi says:

      So all the “Teresa is my best friend… Teresa is so funny… she doesn’t mean anything by it,…we all love her… she is a good mom… what adorable girls” comments would go poof?

      lol. It’s the era of “we were NEVER friends.”

      Gotta love it.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      Congrats Rebecca for you comment posted.

      Lulu and husband congrats on a good blog. I like best the parts related to your experiences. Adds depth imo. Thanks for doing that.

      Thanks to all who write and keep this site so fun.

      • Lulu says:

        Thank you LME!! 🙂

        • trudie says:

          What a great idea for a blog – with both sexes weighing in. I really enjoyed both your takes on the episode.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I loved both you and your husband’s blogs, Lulu. I’ve watched both episodes, and I am really enjoying the show. It is MUCH better than last season.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            I wish I’d seen last season. Do you think the child bride couple add or distracts from it? What makes it better—the couples? The therapist? The editing? Just curious.

            • melthehound says:

              That entire show is going to be about that brat. I’ve seen it too many times before on these therapy / rehab type shows.

              • lovemamaearth says:

                Could be. I had the feeling they’d leave early but maybe not. I’m not sure she can hold up to the stress of the whole thing. Unless she’s there for the cameras only. And I wonder if she ever changes how she dresses during the season.

                • melthehound says:

                  Unless she’s there for the cameras only.

                  Bingo! I think that is it right there. She can’t be told what to do because she’s likely never been told No. Her parents are pigs for consenting to that to begin with. I wonder how much ole Doug paid them for her.

                  • lovemamaearth says:

                    I wonder if she got paid for being in The Dirty. Small world that those two couples are put together.

                    • melthehound says:

                      Nik said in the first episode that he keeps getting photos from her but he doesn’t do kiddie porn. At least that’s what I thought I heard him say when he said he recognized her.

                    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                      Nik Ritchie said, in the 1st episode, that he constantly rejects the photos Courtney sends in of herself trying to get on his website, “The Dirty,” because she is a damned child! He seems to be pretty DISGUSTED by both Doug and Courtney. He called Doug a child molester in the first episode and gave him more than a few choice words, letting him know that he thought Doug & Courtney were SICKO’s (So did his wife). It is a sad, sad day when I find myself agreeing with Nik Ritchie, who I find to be a sleaze.

                      JoJo, formerly of the R&B group, K-Ci & JoJo, also expressed his disapproval because he said he has his own children, and he is just “not cool” and “not down” with that “AT ALL” (I’m quoting some of his words).

                      Last night, the rapper “Too Short” and his girlfriend joined the group, and even “Too Short,” one of the filthiest and most vulgar rappers EVER expressed his shock and dismay at Courtney’s age and Doug’s age. He made me laugh when he interviewed, “Man, I know PLENTY of strippers, and I ain’t seen ANY of them dress during the DAYTIME like THIS LITTLE GIRL dresses!!! Why would I want to look at a CHILD’S BOOTY??!!”

              • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                MTH, like many of your comments, this one made me laugh. “The entire show is going to be about that brat.” It was the “that brat” part that got me!

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              O.K., LME, let me try to answer all of your questions:

              1) I think the child bride couple DEFINITELY distracts from it. I’m not quite sure if Courtney really wants help with her marriage or if she just wants to be on T.V. Doug looks like HE might be sincere about wanting to help his marriage, but, of course, he would possibly be more sincere than his, wife, Courtney, because he is an ADULT, and she is a CHILD (Well, teenager, but she ACTS like a damned CHILD who has been sexually abused in the past. I’m sorry. She just DOES, and I’m glad Dr. Jen pointed that out to her last night).

              2) I think the couples this year are more interesting to me. I mean, the ONLY couples I remember from last season were Angelina Pivarnick (who was on part of the 1st & 2nd seasons of “Jersey Shore.” I mean, I could not care any less about Angelina Pivarnick or her relationship — probably because I could not stand her on “Jersey Shore”) and some dude that was her boyfriend (That is how memorable HE was. All I remember is that he was a chef who appeared to be having an inappropriate relationship with his female manager while he was in his relationship with Angelina) and DMX and his (poor, sweet) Wife (who decided at the end of therapy to get OFFICIALLY divorced, although they had been living my a divorced couple for YEARS already. I remember DMX because I used to blast some of his rap songs during my workouts when he had an actual career and fell into drugs and constant jail stints).

              As for those other couples in Season 1, I would not even tell you who the hell they were because I don’t even remember. That’s how much of an impact they made in my mind.

              3) I LOVED the therapist during “Season 1,” and I love her again so far in “Season 2.” She looks like this is REALLY SERIOUS for her, and she wants to do a good job helping these couples. She does not strike me as a therapist who really wants to be a famewhore.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Congrats Rebecca. Great comment!!!

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      Because the Manzo/Laurita producer-friends didn’t want all the proof of how Caroline and Jacqueline talked about how Amazing, sweet, kind-hearted, etc Teresa was. Or how Jacqueline blogged that Teresa had never talked badly about her family.
      I remember when Caroline SCOFFED at the idea that Teresa was like “Lucille Ball” , I mean, she really couldn’t believe anyone could make that comparison! Until the tweeters reminded her that SHE was the one who first said it in one of her old blogs! HA

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – Bravo had to pull the old blogs because viewers were referring to them – so many lies to play with and make them look like hypocritical history rewriters.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          BINGO! It’s too bad I repeated what some of you guys are saying. I posted my comment immediately after reading Rebecca’s comment instead of reading the following responses to her. Sorry for the repetition, Guys!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Awesome Rebecca!!! Great comment!

    • melthehound says:


    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Congratulations on the blog post, Rebecca!

      IMO, NJ removed the past cast member blogs because people would be able to go back and see the LIES and CHANGING STORIES told by cast members when it comes to Teresa. This does NOT fit the Season 4 storyline of “Teresa is the Antichrist and the ONLY one who has skeletons in her closet that need to be exposed.”

    • disgrazia4 says:

      Great comment!

    • kit9 says:

      Kathy should have.issued her apology to a gossip rag. Everyone knows that’s the sincerest way to let someone know you’re sorry…the tabloid apology, aka the Teresa ‘apology’. Kathy showed real character making her apology. She made it immediately–not after being told to do so by fans in an obvious pander, not for $ to a tabloid, like Teresa did. Of course, Teresa the Vile had to continue to act like an a** even after she made it. Kathy, did this despite a very rocky history with her aunt, who acted like a lunatic screaming at Kathy last season. Somehow I doubt Kathy ever got an apology for that.

  8. PJ says:

    OK those pictures of Juicy remind me of big foot pictures. Maybe they are him and maybe they aren’t but you can’t really tell from those pictures because they are all so blurry. BTW my smart phone takes really clear pictures so how is it that all those pictures are blurry, not one clear picture in the bunch? Also how is talking to someone and walking someone to a taxi proof of cheating? I know a lot of people aren’t crazy about Joe but I personally would not end a marriage over those pictures.

    As for Melissa’s claims, please! It’s sad that she is so desperate for attention that she has to come out with some new claim about Teresa everyday to get her name in the press.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Well I am inclined to think Bigfoot is real. But I am not inclined to think that Juicy is the chick magnet of anywhere.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I don’t think Big Foot is real, but I DO think the Loch Ness monster is. I don’t know why I think this, though. *Shrug*

        • PJ says:

          Hey I’m willing to believe in Nessie or bigfoot just show me a picture that isn’t blurry! Why are all the pictures blurry?

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I think the Loch Ness monster is camera shy. He/She probably feels like he/she is not photogenic enough.

      • disgrazia4 says:

        Me too!!!!

    • lori says:

      I didn’t click on the link yesterday so curious if the pictures were taken inside the casino? If so that’s a big no no and get your camera or phone taken away by security.

  9. BB says:

    Thanks everyone for your recaps. I caught Survivor last night and part of Couples Therapy. I watched the two Duck Dynasty episodes this morning while eating breakfast. Love that show. I don’t think we have to worry about Jill ever coming back to RHONY. She’s ruined her own chances if she ever had any to begin with. Maybe after this she will finally disappear from our radar (I hope).

    Design Diva – If you read this today, hope you and Mr. Ford are doing OK. Hope everybody has a great day. This is the first sunny morning here at the OBX we’ve had in a few days.

    • mkvalle says:

      Duck Dynasty…really? I’d rather just watch a ZZ Top Video.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      With regard to your prediction about JZ, from your LIPS to God’s EARS, BB! I hope you have a great day too!

    • Winston says:

      I haven’t watched the new Duck Dynasty episodes yet but my husband just returned from a business trip to Shreveport, LA and was gifted with some Bayou Magic Jambalaya, Tabasco mints and Louisiana Swamp Eggs. I had never heard of the last 2 and for whatever reason it reminded me of Duck Dynasty. I just might have to eat the swamp eggs while enjoying a DD episode.

  10. Lady Chatterley says:

    You know, I suppose it’s a good thing that Gage and Jeff went down this road w/Grammercy. It was an opportunity for Jeff to display this part of who he is – someone who avoids commitment and stability. I don’t doubt that he cares for Gage and there’s a part of him that would like to have a life w/him, but to do that, Jeff would have to make changes in his personality that I’m not sure he can change. That leaves Gage with the option of living w/Jeff as he is or moving on. If I were Gage, I’d move on – personally and professionally. He deserves better.

    • I agree. What Jeff pulled was not cool. It wasn’t just about moving – it was about the plans they had made to have a family. I wonder if they are still together.

    • trudie says:

      It seems to me that last season Jeff had shown growth and wasn’t as big of a pig as he is this season. I wonder if that was just an aberration. The way he is treating Gage is so selfish. I couldn’t imagine a future with a partner who calls all the shots and does not take my desires into consideration. I hope Gage runs for the hills.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – between Andrew and Gage – Jeff’s true colors are showing. It stops being funny when feeling are hurt.

        • lovemamaearth says:

          So true.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            Jeff Lewis has been hurting people since the shows conception.. Gage was not that popular here last season. I do not really care for him very much. Problem. I do not really care for Jeff very much either. I always liked the people working for Jeff much better then Jeff. I do not really like cruel, self absorbed characters very well. When Trace was hit by the client, and Jeff just sat there, not saying a word, he lost my loyal viewership. Also during the exit meeting with Trace, Jeff called him all sorts of vile curse words. Very unprofessional and immature and disrespectful for Jeff to think that that behavior would make him look very good, to the general public. JMHO.

            • Jeff disgusts me to the point that I stopped watching the show. And the fact that this is really scripted – totally manufactured drama. One of the last episodes I watched showed Jeff taking over Jenny’s wedding planning. Jeff was deciding on the food, the total cost, even the venue. GMAFB. No way Jenny would “allow” Jeff to take over her wedding! All done for the show. If I’m going to watch a scripted drama, there are so many BETTER choices. Revenge, Walking Dead, Sons of Anarchy…..are just a few.

    • kendo says:

      Jeff would be a lot to deal with on a daily basis. With them working together, I don’t know how Gage does it. Jeff should have discussed all of this with Gage off camera. Seems like he just left him in the dark about everything. I don’t see them lasting, Jeff doesn’t seem to want to get to a stable place – flipping houses seemed to keep him stressed out!

      • Lady Chatterley says:

        And he seems to feed on the stress – seeks it out. He strikes me as a high-anxiety personality, and he creates chaos around him as a means of externalizing his anxiety. I wouldn’t be able to live with that.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          Good psychological analysis. You’re probably right on point (and a qualified therapist would probably tell Jeff the SAME thing).

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I don’t know how Jenny puts up with Jeff.

        • trudie says:

          She gets to go home at the end of the day.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            That’s a great point. I wonder how much work Jeff has to do between seasons. And does he worry if he acts nice the ratings will fall? And if JZ is on Andy will anyone watch to give her ratings?

            • LaineyLainey says:

              exactly lme – that’s his schtick – you gotta dance with what brung ya. He’s dancin with what brung’im.

              • lovemamaearth says:

                True. I like to see people evolve and mature into more of themselves. Not spiral down into a caricature.

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  I agree, but then,..would there be a show?

                  • lovemamaearth says:

                    Well there was a show to start with. Bethenny evolved. But people criticized her… I don’t know. But maybe some of these shows outlive their value and take the people’s self respect.

                    Seems like people will do anything for money now and when I was a kid most wouldn’t have. But then success was living a happy life rather than according to wealth. And land was used for making a living rather than subdividing or selling to a corporation. That movie Wall St was a warning that few heeded I think.

                    • Called A Princess... says:

                      lovemama, when we were young there was no reality TV, no Current Affair and no Hard Copy. We did not know that much about the backstage story, in real time because sane people did not fine rag sheets like National Enguirer, a credible personality news source. Now with Tweets, we know if somebody just gave birth minutes after it happens. It is much harder to get away with dangerous stuff. Still, not impossible. IMO.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I’m sure she gets a nice check to help make up for it.

        • LME, Jenny is fed up with Jeff. BUT she is making $ because IIRC, Jenny pitched the show to Bravo. So she’s getting paid for that, plus being on the show. Jenny is an actress….kadooz to her for putting up with one of the biggest megalomaniacs known to live on earth.

    • amalfi says:

      I think Jeff needs a child that can be put away in a box when he is too busy – not sure he knows it doesn’t work that way.

      He does seem to love kids though. Hope that happens for him one day when he is ready so he doesn’t have to adopt Zoila like he keep threatening to.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I loved when Jeff talked about adopting Zoila and taking her to the playground and doing other activities that he would do with a child with her. I just pictured Zoila, in her uniform (because I’m sure Jeff, just for his own kicks & giggles, would make her wear it even though it is supposed to be Father/Daughter bonding and playtime) swinging on the swings; climbing the monkey bars; and playing in the sandbox before Jeff gave her an afternoon snack of a juice box and some goldfish crackers before he brought her home for her afternoon “nap” so she would not be crankly later. 😀

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I think Jeff is one of those guys who doesn’t beleive that he can have it all so instead of working in that direction, he sabotages himself in his personal life. I remember how when he would look at Ryan’s daughter Chole, he would get this sadness and longing about him. He basically admitted that he cheated on Ryan which ended their personal relationship and thought of how if they were still together that Chole would have been his daughter too.
      It seems like now he is doing the same thing with Gage. Although they haven’t shown it yet, the have played clips where it looks like that they are at a meeting with an adoption councilor and Jeff makes snarky comments about the conflict in their relationship. If I were Gage, I would throw in the towel.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        This is another good psychological analysis. Maybe Jeff is a commitmentphobe with intimacy issues, and this is why he sabotages his personal relationships.

        Maybe he is ambivalent about being single and not tied down and being in a committed relationship and dealing with the LIFETIME responsibilities of being a parent (Hey, I can relate! It took me a long time to admit that I had this issue and to work through it in therapy. Now, I’m just “open” — although the thought of being tied down to one person for the rest of my life still scares me a little bit. That’s why I say my ideal marital relationship would be my husband and I living in separate houses as next-door neighbors. O.K. Maybe I have not worked through it ALL THE WAY yet, but I’m TRYING. Also, I’m a Sagittarius. We are KNOWN to be the “bachelors and bachelorettes” of the Zodiac. We either make the mistake of marrying too young when we really want to be independent and then gettting divorced or cheating while married; OR we NEVER marry; OR we marry ONLY ONE TIME, but it is LATER than the norm, and it’s for LIFE [probably because at the time we decided to do it, we’re about to drop dead anyway. That makes a “for LIFE” marriage much easier, I guess] *Shrug* I’ll get there if I keep doing the work. In the words of Maxwell, I’ll just keep trying “to work it on out this lifetime.”).

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          🙂 Detox, you make me smile.

          You know, those marriages in later life are often the happiest – you’ve both grown, you’re comfortable in your own skin, you accept each other’s and your own flaws, you accept each other for exactly who you are and where you are in your lives. It’s a good place to be.

        • Detox, let me make if easy. JEFF IS A JERK. Whew! I feel so much better now.

          I’m a Sagittarius too 🙂 It’s true, I would never marry again. One marriage, one husband, h*ll I’ve driven the same car for over 10 years! I hate to move, too. Those roots grow deep, it hurts to wrench them out.

          My belief Detox is that when you find the right guy, you will know. Possibly in as little as 2 weeks. You just haven’t met him yet 🙂 You will, moving to Texas just might be a great opportunity for you, in so many ways. Even if you don’t move to the state of Texas, I see great things for you, where ever you are!

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Why thank you, Blue?! I think I met the “right” guy, but he got away. I was stupid to have dumped him. I NEVER got tired of being around HIM. Whenever he was at my house and in my space, it was NOOOO problem at all. I had no problem somehow automatically turning into the other Creole women in my family who cater to and wait on their man hand and foot (I was like, “What…IN…THE…HELL? How have I turned into my grandmothers and aunts all of a sudden?”).

            But he felt like he wasn’t good enough for me because I was already practicing, and he had just gone back to law school later. He felt like I had my “act together,” and he “was not together enough” to offer me what I deserved (at least that’s what he told a mutual friend YEARS later). So, he dithered on committing. And I did NOT dither on saying, “Bye” (although it was VERY amicable).

            Whatever will be will be!

            And, Blue, I didn’t know you were a fellow Sag! How ’bout that? And you’re right about sticking to it once we decide to do it. I’m pretty much like that with a LOT of things. ALL or NOTHING. I’m either going to do it RIGHT, or I’m not going to do it AT ALL. I ain’t got time fa dat!! LOL *Shrug*

    • keida says:

      I know. I feel like we are going to watch the reunion and Jeff will say that they broke up. It reminds me of when he’d go see his ex Ryan and his little girl. You could see his face saying I want that. I want to be a part of that, but if he doesn’t take the plunge, he never will.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        Jeff can want something and not be willing to work for it. Jeff always seems to want what other people have and there fore acts out about it rather then learn how to get it for himself in a healthy manner. He is a cautionary tale on how not to conduct a healthy adult business or interpersonal relationship. IMO.

        • I don’t know about Jeff raising a child. He did love Chloe, but he also loved messing with her. Remember when he taught her to say bad words? Yeah. He reminded me of my brother, who I really didn’t want around my son for any length of time, as alto he’s a great brother, he enjoyed teaching his nephew how to burp, fart with your arm, the list goes on 🙂 It’s no coinkydink that we call him “Uncle Buck.”

    • Well said Lady C. I am almost Bravo-free (sounds like I’m recovering from a disease 🙂 !) but one of the reasons that I no longer watch Flipping Out is Jeff & his horrible personality. Of course it’s all about Jeff, all the time. Gage may have just realized that indeed, it is time to move on if he wants a child & a real family life. Sadly, this may be the best for all concerned. Can’t imagine what having Jeff as a parent would be like…..very scary! A child needs someone that will put them first, which in Jeff’s case, I really don’t ever see Jeff putting anyone ahead of himself. JMHO.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        It sounds like you are recovering from a disease! LOL. So many people are SO funny today! I am thoroughly enjoying the laughs.

  11. It’s too bad Couples Therapy has Doug and Courtney on it. Although they probably do need therapy. It would be hard to open up emotionally with the two of them crawling all over each other and being a distraction.

    • Lulu says:

      Couldn’t agree more.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        Her reaction to the trash compactor was probably included to show how immature she is in everything. I wonder what age her maturity was stunted since she’s obviously been abused in some way imo. The way her face moved when she was asked about that seemed to contradict what she said. But she sold Doug the idea that she was a virgin when they got together.

        • Orson says:

          I’d say she was an “early bloomer” and her maturity ceased when she discovered she could get attention with her chesticles. I watched the last third last night. And my call is that Courtney won. She craves attention and she knows how to get it. I predict these 3 things in her future, in chronological order: 1) Her 18th birthday, 2) A Penthouse photo-essay, 3) a divorce from the person I’ll refer to as “her first husband. There will probably be a bit more between 2 and 3, and 2 might not be Penthouse, but I’d like to think Playboy has a bit more class to offer her the first shoot. But there’s still Hustler and other magazines. Oh, and whichever magazine does the photo essay, The shoot will probably take place while there’s still left over cake from 1.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            Chesticles. ROFL

            I can agree with your prediction except she’s more Hustler’s speed maybe from the sounds of those magazines. I’ll confess I’ve been shown a few.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        And again Lulu– good job you and hubs did. 🙂

      • keida says:

        I love both u n ur hubs recaps. I like the different viewpoints.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      ITA. I just do not GET those two. Courtney seems DISTURBED, and I’m not quite sure she was entirely truthful about whether or not she had ever been molested. I love that therapist! She is DIRECT and NO B.S.

      If I were in some type of “Couples Therapy” with those 2, I would just block them out to avoid the distraction. I could eat my food with her sitting there in front of me and my boyfriend/husband STARK NAKED because: 1) SHE is the one who looks like an IDIOT/LOON; and 2) I’m a foodie. So why should I turn down a good meal just because HER a*s wants to act CRAZY? I should not, and I would not (I think Shane was being a bit dramatic about not even being able to sit at the table and eat with Crazy Courtney).

      • djprincessc says:

        Omg Detox I sooooooo agree! The face and the way she acted when the therapist asked if she had been molested before did NOT convince me. I think she was, the way she SCREAMS attention its too much, even Too Short said he doesn’t know any strippers wo dress like that when they’re not working. And I was like OOoooo Oooooo I do I do!!! Her name is Melissa Gorga!!! hahahah!

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          Girl, I mentioned in a comment above that I laughed OUT LOUD when Too Short interviewed, “Man, I know plenty of strippers, and I don’t know ANY of ’em that dress like THAT in the DAYTIME!!” He, one of the filthiest and most vulgar rappers EVER, even seemed shocked and a bit disturbed by Courtney and Doug. He was not outwardly judgmental toward them, but his face said it all when he found out how old Courtney and Doug were (and when he got a look at Courtney’s HOOKER outfit)!!

          I mean, even Too Short has standards!! Who knew??!!

          • Called A Princess... says:

            Courtney may not be willing to consider what being molested really is. It sounds to me like the marriage was an escape from somewhere to somewhere else. Both places very unhealthy. I have not seen the show, but when they first were married and she was on the press circuit, she seemed to me to be on some sort of drugs or drink or both. I had a hard time believing that the mainstream press considered her and Doug to be an acceptable celebrity story. She is too young and talent less to be a legitimate train wreak. IMO.

            • djprincessc says:

              She has ZERO talent. Less talent then Jersey Shore or The Kardashians combined.

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              I have seen interviews where she looks like she is “on” something. In one interview, her eyes were glazed, and she kept licking her lips lasciviously and trying to make different types of “O-faces” and sexy, come-hither looks (usually while her husband was talking and she was looking at him), when she ended up just looking plain RIDICULOUS and DISTURBED (When I watched, I thought, “WHAT IN THE HELL IS THAT LITTLE GIRL DOING?!!! She looks like she read a ‘book’ on how to ‘be sexy,’ and she is trying out some of the things she read in that book during this interview!!! SOMEBODY, PLEASE COME GET THIS LITTLE GIRL…..NOW!!!!”).

  12. trudie says:

    MTH – I was hoping Matsing would win immunity last night – not because I particularly like any of them, but because of how demoralizing it is to lose each and every immunity challenge. Cannot stand Abi – makes my skin crawl. Still trying to get to know the rest of cast – there seem to be a few who have not even spoken yet; at least not that we’ve seen.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      First competition that I was on the edge of my seat, rooting for Matzing. It was so anti-climatic when they lost. Russell was definitely going home even before the outburst. Hope the other two are on the same team after the merge.

    • melthehound says:

      I like Denise. She’s grown on me. I can’t say I dislike Malcom though I thought I would. For the first time in My own watching experience, the strongest players remain on the tribe and there was no scheming (that I’ve seen) to get them to the end or to the merge or to the mixup. I think if either of those two things happens now, it’s just going to be because there are only two of them left and at council, stalemate. I can’t imagine sitting out 4 members of each of the other teams. The only ones we really haven’t heard anything from yet, are the women on the Red team. Except for a comment here or there, they appear to be playing just to stay alive in the game. None of them, yellow or red, have been truly tested however.

  13. lovemamaearth says:

    Hey Lulu maybe you and hubs could do a his/hers video blog on Couples Therapy on Rumorfix. Wonder what they pay.

  14. Such great recaps today everyone! Your time and efforts are so appreciated!

    Boston – love your pics as always. You are a master!

    MTH- I just love your recaps. As I have mentioned, I do not watch the show, but I always read and love your no nonsense view. I would comment , but do not have anything intelligent to add to the conversation since I don’t watch, but you do a great job of conveying the details.

    Keida – great posts for Top Chef & Flipping Out. Top Chef is not as exciting as some of the other chef shows, but it gives a glimpse into their lives and I like that. And Jeff, Jeff, Jeff….he needs Fabio’s life coach. You can’t have a relationship with someone “by yourself”.

    Stars99 – I do not watch DD, but your recaps are hysterical! I wish I had more time to see all these shows.

    LuLu & Hubs – love the his & her perspective. Again, I haven’t seen the show…but Nic R. doesn’t have, IMHO, any right to call anyone else out on these things given what he puts on his website. I hope Alex & Simon find what they need there…as I wish it so for all the couples.

    NMD, Lady C, BB and all the posters….you are all such amazing people and I am so grateful you take the time out of your lives to keep the blog running and keep us entertained with your glorious words and perspectives. I think I like reading the blog better than watching the shows! (certainly for some of them! LOL!)

    Love you all and wish you a wonderful day! Hugs!

  15. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Fantastic blogs this morning, I really, really enjoyed the “The Couple’s Blog” on “Couples Therapy”, I think it’s such a unique thing which is one of the reasons I love this place so much.

  16. BB says:

    Recap of last night’s Nashville. I think I might try to watch this one.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      It’s been getting a lot of good buzz. This morning on her show, Wendy Williams said she watched it; LOVED it; and predicted it is going to be a big hit. I love Connie Britton. I can take or leave Hayden Panettiere.

    • Lady Chatterley says:

      My hubby wanted to watch it last night, but I wasn’t interested (I think he has a little crush on that trollop Hayden whats-her-name). But, the reviews have been good – might have to try it next week. 🙂

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        LOL at you calling Hayden “whats-her-name” a “trollop”!

        • Lady Chatterley says:

          He has a magazine with her picture in the bathroom!!

          I’m burning it – and then, we can watch the show. 😉

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            This made me CACKLE. I would burn that little heifer’s picture too (What he does NOT know will NOT hurt him). 😀

  17. Eastbayca says:

    Apparently I can’t help myself now that Jill is back in focus, I had forgotten the woman exists.
    Jill Zarin tweets:
    -October 15th I return to @Bravotv Watch What Happens!!!
    -Just heard “Bobbyyyy” on my TV. Guess what? Reruns of old episode on today. You can thank @BravoAndy for listening! So wierd to see Ally
    -She’s Baaack! Jill Zarin Is Returning To Bravo! via @sharethis
    -you are why i did andys show RT @altadenadad @bravo_rhony @jillzarin I agree 100%, mistake that she was not on this year! @bravoandy
    -will there be more commercials on #WWHL this week for the “Event” this Monday Oct 15th 11PM? Tell @bravoandy if you are excited!

    • BB says:

      Oh, brother. The sleeping giant (Pain in the Ass) has been awakened.

      • not THAT Jill says:

        Oh Sweet Jesus…she is acting like she is the second coming of Christ…why is Andy torturing us with woman???

      • 2Stupid says:

        Surely she is getting on Andy’s nerves as well. This is why we tired of her antics before. It’s in the book……

      • RealHousewifeVA says:

        Totally. She is out of control again. I read some articles about it and she’s basically insinuationg that she’s wanted back…ugh. Is Andy that desperate? I mean, I know NY ratings weren’t the best..but they were still better than most of the other Bravo shows! I’m really hoping they demolish her during the edit. I mean, why else would they do it pre-taped and not live? They want full control.

  18. RealHousewifeVA says:

    You know what’s funny? On the bravo blog about Jill’s interview, they say the interview is on Oct. 22nd while other places say October 15.

    • BB says:

      that is funny. I thought they were going to air it right after part 2 of the NY reunion. Maybe it doesn’t even garner that important of a spot. Lol.

  19. Powell says:

    MTH I couldn’t believe Survivor! I just knew that Michael, is that his name was going to finally win for them. Now they are down to 2. They must be merging them next week.

  20. BB says:

    I cannot believe Juicy Joe complimented Melissa’s singing, told her she was a beautiful pregnant lady and said he liked her style. How dare he! He must be tone deaf and really like that hoochie mamma look! Lol. On a serious note, if she thinks that’s being hit on and those are the worst examples she can think of, then maybe she needs some therapy too.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      When I was pregnant, my husband’s brother (who is also married) told me that I looked great pregnant “Where is that baby hiding? You look great!” His wife was right next to him, and she was being complimentary as well. It’s called a compliment! Melissa strikes me as the type of person who thinks that anytime a guy smiles at her it means he wants to sleep with her.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        What a nice story.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          That IS a nice story.

          My Mom looked beautiful when she was pregnant with both of my brothers (In fact, I think she should have STAYED PREGNANT FOR LIFE because that was the best I have EVER seen my Mother look. She’s still an attractive woman, but she was stunning pregnant).

          She told me she looked GODAWFUL when she was pregnant with me, and my paternal grandmother told her she was going to have a girl, “because a girl child steals all the Mother’s beauty when she’s pregnant.”!! (Needless to say, my Mom did NOT appreciate hearing THIS from her Mother-In-Law, my Granny. LOL).

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I grew up hearing that too! If it’s a boy: good pregnancy, you look great and you feel great. If it’s a girl: you don’t feel great, super tired, skin problems, hair falls out, you go cross-eyed (jk). It was true with me, with my boy…I looked purdy. Huge, but purdy. My daughter, ewwww your eyes, shield your eyes, y’all!!!

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              LOL. So, I guess that Old Wives’ Tale is true in some cases. My parents never found out the sex of any of us beforehand. Was that technology available in 1970 (when I was born)? I’m wondering if it was available when my brothers were born too?

              My eggs are probably ALL DRIED UP BY NOW, but if I somehow wound up pregnant, I’m not sure if I’d want to know or just keep it a big ol’ surprise! Considering my advanced age, I’d probably have to have all kinds of tests and end up finding out the sex anyway.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                You’re young, the eggs are stil viable. You need to get well and out into the world, Axle and Alexa (or Alexia) await.

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  Lainey, Girl, those psychics told me I have the power to change my fate/destiny because God gives us all FREE WILL.

                  I will NOT be having any twins in THIS lifetime.

                  And, if by some STRANGE twist of fate, I am unable to change my predicted destiny, get ready for some little juvenile delinquents — because I am too old and too tired to be running after 1 child, much less 2!!! Yep, I will be saving up, not for their COLLEGE FUNDS, but for their BAIL MONEY.

                  I’m exhausted.

                  So, get ready for another “Bonnie & Clyde” (if it’s a boy & a girl) or “Frank & Jesse James” (if it’s two boys) or “Lindsay Lohan and her twin (if she HAD one” (if it’s 2 girls).

      • BB says:

        That’s because they are a pretty crude bunch. All you have to do is watch them while they party and hear all the gutter talk. Maybe she doesn’t know how to take a nice sincere compliment. I mean, she (admittedly) tended bar in a gentleman’s club, and she’s married to poison tarzan. Nuff said.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Yes, that pool party?? sleazy.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            That pool party was SOOOO trashy! I mean, why would they have CHILDREN at something like that? Poor little Antonia was screaming in fear as her father nearly pushed Richie and himself on top of her when they drunkenly jumped into the pool and almost landed on top of her (I mean, yes, Joe Giudice drunkenly tried to do gymnastics in his OWN HOME, while Gia was screaming in fear. But she was screaming because she thought the DUMBA*S would hurt HIMSELF, not almost break HER damned neck!!).

            I mean, they were acting like “The Jersey Shore” crew. Last night, on WWHL, Ronnie told Andy that Sammi got him into watching RHONJ because SHE watches it. When Andy asked him his opinion, he said, “I never knew OLDER women could have so much DRAMA!!” In short, even Ronnie knows when it’s time to grow up and stop acting and partying like he has been on “The Jersey Shore.” Apparently, Melissa and her witchy (“rode hard and put-up-wet-looking”) sisters NEVER got that MEMO.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              The image of Katfish and Ratface making out in front of their children at that party…those kids looked so uncomfortable. excuse me, I have to go throw up.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Why is Melissa reaching all the way back to the beginning of her marriage for slurs and innuendos? So now it is really Juicy who wants to come between her marriage and not so much Teresa? She needs to focus on her sleazy sisters – like the one who was grinding on Joey’s leg at the Christmas “charity” (but still unpaid for) party and pretending she was just dancing….Melissa needs to grow up, shut up and attend to her own family!

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I don’t have sisters, and I’m a strong believer in family and family loyalty. However, I would have a BIG problem if my sister was GRINDING on MY boyfriend/husband (If we did not come to blows, we definitely would have WORDS and some time of not speaking to each other so she could CLEARLY get the message that I do not PLAY like THAT!!). I mean, WTF??!! What kinda family DOES that kinda stuff?

          Teresa even pointed out the fact that one of Melissa’s sisters was grinding on her brother. After she made the statement, she wrote, “Ummm…..NASTY!!!!”

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Oops, I meant to say that Teresa pointed out the “nasty” grinding episode in one of her blogs from Season 3.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I agree with your statement that Melissa seems like the type of person who thinks a guy is hitting on her and wants to sleep with her if he smiles at her or gives her a compliment.

        I mean, when Teresa told Melissa about how she did not like how Richie was constantly “picking on” her and constantly making digs about her, she said, “I don’t know. It’s like he’s OBSESSED with me.”

        Melissa’s TRASHY mind IMMEDIATELY goes to SEX, and her messy a*s RUNS to tell Kathy, “Teresa said your husband, Richie, is SEXUALLY OBSESSED with YOU.” (This was to FURTHER Melissa’s REPEATED GOALS of “wanting nothing more than to put this family back together.” Yeah, with that little STUNT you pulled, Melissa, I can see how you were really pushing Kathy and Teresa to make up and bond and become B.F.F.’s again. I ALWAYS want to be B.F.F.’s with women who claim that My Man is sexually obsessed with them! PUH-LEEZE!!)

        Teresa did not mention sex AT ALL when she told Melissa that it seemed that Richie was obsessed with her (although I DO think Richie might have or did have at one time, “the hots” for Teresa. He can never seem to stop talking about her. Also, the way, when they were in Napa, she told Richie SPECIFICALLY — she did NOT tell this to any other man around there –, “Turn around!” [like, “I don’t want your sleazy a*s looking at me!!] indicates to me that, for some strange reason, Richie might creep Teresa out as wanting to ogle her.).

    • amalfi says:

      I thought everybody knew that was code for “do me.”

      My brother-in-law said “nice dress” to me the other day and I slapped him and suggested my sister start divorce proceedings. Jerk.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I KNOW! I’ve been hit on 5 times today already and it’s not even 2:00. First it was the nice scarf. Then some work I did. Then someone thought my shoes are cute. And then a co-worker said hi. They want me. They totally want me.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        You can run but you just can’t hide from your total hotness!

      • BB says:

        I knew we were all smart and witty. Who knew we were so irresistable too! I mean nobody can leave us alone, men, women, pets. It gets tiresome, I tell ya!

        • RealHousewifeVA says:

          I’m dying over here! lol!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Have enjoyed reading this thread!!! The groc store thing reminds me of a time when I was a young married living in orange county. The sacker said to me as he was packing my stuff, – – -why would you buy just one zucchini??? (as he moved up and down in a suggestive manner) what do you DO with the one zucchini??? I was so embarrassed, I said “…what?” He said “nothing” I was so shocked and kinda shy back then, not to mention, completely mortified. I should have called the manager over, but I just didn’t want to tell them what I did with my darling “Mr. Zucchini”….just kidding about that last part. haha?

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Did the sacker happen to have white hair, chiclet teeth and to be a Senior Citizen? Did his name tag say “George”?

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Chiclet George just haunts me every freakin’ day on this board!!! LOL!!! no, the sacker was an older teen. I can still remember what he looked like…brown hair, beady eyes, thin lips and a little sparse field of hair on his upper lip.

    • Lulu says:

      This is gross but I will say it anyway. When I was pregnant with my first. My FIL made a comment “Did you notice any changes in your breast?” He just said it like “pass the butter!?!??!?!?!” Not only did I not answer him I hung up on him. Since then I AM COMPLETELY CREEPED OUT BY HIM!!! Ok I’m jumping in the shower I feel dirty!

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Can you imagine Aviva’s father, George, being your father-in-law? G-R-O-S-S!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        That reminds me of Kim’s father (from Atlanta)…verrrrrry creepy. He asked her that time, “when the baby’s nursing on one breast, does he play with the other breast?” wow…. shocking. pervy.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          Oh yeah, Kim’s father has definitely made some inappropriate comments that kinda creep me out.

          • djprincessc says:

            Idk where all these CREEPY fathers with their daughters come from! When I hurt my back a few years ago, my dad took me to the doctor and walked me in the room since I could hardly walk, he stayed in the room to hear the doctor explain what was wrong, well the doctor made me take off my sweater to examine my back and my dad looked THE OTHER WAY!! Like a father should!!! I bet these other dads would be like hey doctor can you let me examine her??? GROSS!

            Ever notice though that moms never make gross remarks to their sons?? I can’t think of a mom who says inappropriate shit to her son.

  21. california35 says:

    i should watch the chef show, it sounds like i am missing out. I also, should get myself to Fabio’s restaurant, great food and maybe I run into him 😉

    Poor Jill, i think i am feeling sorry for her by now. She did not move on.

    • BB says:

      I wouldn’t mind running into Fabio (did I just say that?). Lol.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I felt bad for Fabio last night. He seemed broken and lonely. Maybe I expected all of them to go off to successful chefland and cook happily ever after.

      • AZGirl says:

        I believe he was married when he competed on Top Chef. He said she worked at the restuarant he owned. There is no mention of his wife now.

        • Sam says:

          Yes, he was married, and here’s a comment on his break-up from a 2010 interview:

          “I’m going through a divorce right now. Unfortunately, I did love my wife very much, but we realized we were growing in separate directions. Nothing to do with the show or anything, but [I had a lot going on], and she figured she couldn’t deal with it.”

          (The source is

          • Nancy says:

            They lived right near my sister. That’s sad that they broke up.
            He used to talk about her a lot during his season. They had a baby too. 😦

        • california35 says:

          oh that sad 😦 i didn’t know about that.

      • Winston says:

        Fabio “owned” a restaurant in Moorpark, CA with his father-in-law (who put up all the money) and when he got famous he decided to divorce his wife and sue the father-in-law for the restaurant. Here is a story about it in the local paper –
        If you google vc star and fabio, there are many local stories on this case. In one of the stories I remember reading comments from someone very close to the family and it was sad what Fabio did to them.
        It basically implied that he used his wife and her family for money and when he thought his road to fame had been paved, he divorced her and tried to take the family’s restaurant after they had financially supported him for years.
        He is probably broken and lonely because he chose fame and greed over love and family.
        On a side note, I lived in Moorpark for 20 years so this was a big news story there and I followed it. I moved in May so am no longer living there.

        • BB says:

          Another person who let fame go to their heads. Sad.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I had a feeling that is probably what happened.

          • Winston says:

            IKR, you would think people would learn from all the others who have gone down this path before them. Your most valued asset in life is the spouse who loved and stood by you before fame.

            • princesspindy says:

              Winston, I lived in Simi Valley for 18 years, 12 years ago we moved to San Diego. I did a temp job for that newspaper years ago.

              • Winston says:

                Wow! I actually moved to Temecula so we are neighbors again. Someday we will have to get together. Would love to meet some So Cal Lynn Peeps 😀
                Oh and you should remember when the paper was called the News Chronicle and locally people used to refer to it as the News Comical. Ahh, the good ole days.

                • princesspindy says:

                  Temecula!! And you survived the heat wave!! I can’t imagine how hot it was there, but then if you lived in Moorpark, you probably are use to it. I have yet to get use to the humidity here, lol. I am use to a dryyyy heat!

                  • Winston says:

                    Yes I did and I was rewarded with a $450 electric bill but it was worth every penny. I am so ready for Fall.
                    I have a daughter and son who go to college and live in the Moorpark area still and it was every bit as hot there as it was here. What a crazy hot summer it has been!

              • Sam says:

                Simi Valley is where I live now!

                • Winston says:

                  Hi former neighbor! One thing I do miss about that area this time of year is Underwood Farm off Tierra Rejada. They have some great pumpkin patches here but nothing like Underwood Farm. It was such a fun place to take your kids to pick out a pumpkin.

                  • Sam says:

                    Oh yes, definitely a great place! You can also rent the place out for weddings and parties, and they hold a Civil War reenactment there every year that’s amazing. (Now that I’ve typed this, I’m hoping it doesn’t sound like the Civil War is being reenacted while some poor bride is saying her vows!)

                    Anyway, “Hi former neighbor” back at ya, Winston! 🙂

        • RealHousewifeVA says:

          I always thought Fabio seemed like he thought he was this big famous star and was putting on an act for the cameras, while hiding who he really was. It was always just my opinion of him. Not surprised to read this.

          • princesspindy says:

            I will admit that I thought he was adorable but this makes me rethink. The father in law’s website for the rest. is still using his name…..

            • Winston says:

              That’s because he went back to being the Chef there, like in the last year. They put up a big banner announcing it.
              I’ll have to do a little checking but may be they settled the case..maybe Fabio’s restaurant in Universal City Walk failed so he decided to reconcile with his FIL and the Celebrity Chef status would boost sales for the restaurant so it was a win-win situation for all.

        • Sam says:

          I remember those articles. Never got a chance to visit the restaurant, though.

          • Winston says:

            I never did either. The parking lot was always packed especially on a weekend night. I used to go there often when it was Baducco’s because I love a good Italian deli sandwich.
            Mmm. If you ever make it over to Agoura, check out Italia Deli, they have the best sandwiches E.V.E.R. Yet another thing I miss about that area.

            • Sam says:

              I’ve never been to Italia Deli either. Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll definitely give it a try. Also, did you ever go to Secret Garden in Moorpark? It was featured on Gordon Ramsey’s restaurant make-over show Kitchen Nightmares, and the owner was such a jerk about it — or maybe I should say such a coward. He sung Ramsey’s praises to his face, thanking him profusely for the make-over, but afterwards bashed him to a reporter from the local newspaper and then changed the restaurant back the way it was.

              • Winston says:

                I never did go there. It’s still open though. Every time I drove by it, it was closed so I think it was a reservation only kind of place..not sure. That’s kind of funny that it was featured on Kitchen Nightmares because it is such a tiny, tiny place how could you fit a film crew in there even.

                • Winston says:

                  Oh and if you do go to Italia Deli get your sandwich with the Ital dressing, it’s like their special sauce and like nothing I’ve ever tasted. They also finely shred the lettuce which I like. I’ve tried to duplicate their Ital dressing but can’t quite figure out their magic ingredient.

                • Sam says:

                  It must be bigger inside than it looks on the outside, because I know someone who went to a wedding reception there. (And said the food was terrible, by the way.)

  22. AZGirl says:

    You guys are all cracking me up today.

  23. AZGirl says:

    Hey! I just thought of a branding label for Melissa! Clothing line of slut wear and label it “Poison” Guaranteed that you get hit on by your brother in law.

  24. BB says:

    OT. This could only happen around my neck of the woods or in Cincinatti (remember the great Thanksgiving turkey drop on WKRP)?

  25. BB says:

    Shrill has her biggest fan from the Jewish Journal bashing the current NY cast and calling for her return.

  26. Nancy says:

    SF Giants came from a 2-0 loss and they are about to win the playoffs so there is hope for your
    Nationals. I’ll be watching the game with you. 🙂

    I just heard some thunder here as well. We really need the rain.

    • BB says:

      thanks for the support. I think that makes you, me and Powell who are pulling for them.

      • Nancy says:

        Are they down 2 games right now?

        • lovemamaearth says:

          I was thinking this morning that last night was due to everyone being tired and saying more than intended.

          You both win. I feel like i’ve been beat down into the dirt under both your shoes. Happy now? As someone pointed out above when it hurts someone feelings it ceases to be funny. And I got a few messages that I wasn’t alone in my preferences. Just because they didn’t keep the nastiness going didn’t mean they weren’t here.

          • melthehound says:

            Well said ((LME))

            • BB says:

              Sorry MTH. I didn’t know it bothered you too. Wow.

              • melthehound says:

                What bothered me was the flippant attitude towards LME last night because, it was very familiar to me, particularly when I’ve asked a certain party not to discuss politics here or rather why she felt the constant need to bring it up. Now that topic has been given it’s own home, as sports has. I’m not demanding anyone do anything than they are doing right now but, I didn’t see anything wrong with the request to take it there.

          • BB says:

            Oh, no. You win, LME. And I would like to sincerely apologize to anyone else here for taking up all this space with my constant sports talk.

            • Nancy says:

              It’s funny that this subject never came up when Lynn was still here.

              • melthehound says:

                Actually Nancy it DID, Multiple times, and was met with the same FU responses. Your revisionist history statements never cease to amaze me.

          • princesspindy says:

            This just makes me sad.

            • BB says:

              Don’t be sad, my princess. I’ll take the blame for this one. I don’t ever want to be one to cause sadness or controversy. That’s not my desire. I like to have fun here.

        • BB says:

          Yes. 😦

  27. I Need A Life! says:

    Have you covered this yet? I read that Joe Guidice has been accused of dating a 25 year old college student in New Jersey? National Enquirer has witnesses who spotted them at a bar.

    • melthehound says:

      Complete with Bigfoot-esque pictures that prove nothing.

      • amalfi says:

        Bigfoot lol.

        I am going to guess that if anything Joe Giudice, nay all the Joes – hell, all the husbands – have teeny, tiny gerken sized feet.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      unknown sources, no photos – who would have thought that Juicy was hotter than all of us!

      • I Need A Life! says:

        If there’s a woman out there who can verify that she’s been with Joe, or that she was the woman on the phone, she would have come out. A fortune to be made!

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Joe Giudice must have some kind of “animal magnetism” that just does NOT translate across my t.v. screen. I mean, YES, he does, AT TIMES, make me LAUGH MY HEAD OFF (I know he should NOT, but, what can I say? He oftentimes DOES. *Shrug*), but other than that, I don’t get it.

      I mean, the man has been linked with about 75 women since “Season 2.” What could POSSIBLY be attracting ALL of these women to him?

      • PJ says:

        I’m sure they are hoping to meet Melissa through him and become her back up singers on all her huge tours of flea markets and water parks.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          Maybe THAT’S it. It’s just amazing to me. Why are we not hearing ALL these stories about Apollo in the tabloids (although I DO read comments about Apollo stepping out on Phaedra on the local ATL blogs and some of the urban blogs)?

          Why are we not hearing stories about Mario in the tabloids (although I DO think Mario cheats. I think he LOVES Ramona, and I can’t see him ever leaving her. I still think he cheats, though. We did hear Jill and the others allude to this, and I have read a few comments on some blogs about Mario cheating)?

          I mean, BOTH of these men are VERY ATTRACTIVE/HOT. Yet, they are not in RadarOnline and Us Magazine and other tabloids every other week as having cheated.

          That’s probably because Phaedra’s sister-in-law (if she had one) or any of Apollo’s OTHER relatives are NOT picking up the phone to give the tabloids these stories the way I HIGHLY SUSPECT Melissa and her “crew” are. And the SAME goes for Ramona, IMO.

          I’m not even going to bring Romain Zago up because RHOM just started.

          I’m sorry. There are husbands on these Housewives’ shows that are MUCH hotter than Joe Giudice and who have PLENTY of opportunities to cheat (and may take up these opportunities). Yet, strangely, we do not hear about these MUCH MORE MAGNETIC AND ATTRACTIVE men and their HAREM of OTHER WOMEN in these rag mags.

          It’s ALWAYS Joe Giudice.

        • Winston says:

          This made me think of the whole “Joe Guidice Hit on Me Headline” and made me think…Who would you Rather??
          A best-selling author and Celebrity Apprentice Star?
          A flea market and amusement park singer?
          Just the very mention of flea market makes me think dirty. Sorry but it does.
          Stranger things have happened but I just don’t think Juicy Joe has any attraction to MeGo.

  28. princesspindy says:

    I love sports and can talk about it all day. An innocuous comment about the sports page and it’s like the return of “Mean Girls” that’s what made me sad. And if you don’t see it……*shrugs

  29. amalfi says:

    I would like to reintroduce you to the scroll bar ——> It has kept me from being an @*****e many times.

    Love you peeps. Politics, religion and taxes belong elsewhere.

    I like baseball I hate figure skating (sorry Nance, nothing personal) but if they want to discuss that as well as dogs (love), cats (meh), kids (double meh – haha just kidding) or illnesses (love broken bones, not as fond of bursitis and gallstones) – to each his own.

    Be nice?

  30. I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

    Is anybody watching X-Factor?

    • melthehound says:


    • Nancy says:

      YES! The talent is blowing me away.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Me too. Last night, I was like….”Hmmm….Simon and Demi are going to have a tough time deciding which 2 to let go!”

        L.A. Reid kind of acted like a jackass last night. If I were in the over 25 group, I’d be kinda pissed about that.

    • amalfi says:

      No and I love Simon Cowell, but now that Karsdashians are making their way to non-cable channels, I am just going to be too busy to watch what with preparing for Armageddon and all…

      • Nancy says:

        You are on a roll today. 🙂 I love Simon too. And LA Reid.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I agree with Nancy, Amalfi! You ARE on a roll today.

          Now, I WOULD marry Simon Cowell. I’m sure he’d be perfectly happy to let me live in one of his houses while he lives in another. I find myself WILDLY attracted to him for some reason. I think it’s the accent, the attitude, and the fact that I think he’s a big ol’ softie underneath it all. His BIG BUCKS help a lot too!

          • Nancy says:

            ITA. He’s a good guy on the inside. He doesn’t however have a good history of relationships.

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              That’s o.k. He gives EVERY SINGLE ONE of his ex-girlfriends a fully-paid for mansion and a “severance package” of lots of cash when the relationships end. Wendy Williams asked him about those rumors, and he said that they were, indeed, TRUE.

              He says that he feels like he owes these women this for having to put up with his hectic schedule and being away so much. He also still cares about them and wants to ensure that they will always have a place to live and some money to fall back on.

              Wendy then said, “Those mansions and money probably also help prevent them from going to the tabloids or writing a tell-all book about you, right, Simon. WINK, WINK, WINK!!” He just laughed.

              Sign me up to be one of Simon Cowell’s girlfriends RIGHT NOW, Dammit!

              • Nancy says:

                Me too. He would be very hard to live with as he does most of his work at night.
                Ophra interviewed him a while back.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Buy nuts for your bomb shelter/Armageddon shelter. Oh and wine.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Just the one clip you shared (Panda) from when they filmed in TX. so, Is it good? Is Britney worth the $17m

      • melthehound says:

        I don’t think any of them are worth that kind of money. Britney has a vocabulary of 15 words on the entire show, LA Ried has his panties in a bunch over having to mentor the group of 25 and over people. I still don’t know who the hell Demi Levato is other than this show (not that that means anything) and Simon is, Simon. Many of the singers are good, I thought Panda was great but it’s a shame she got taken out on a stretcher. Too bad she didn’t return for boot camp.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          oh, I didn’t know that about Panda!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Well, I knew about the stretcher, but I didn’t know that she didn’t make it back.

            • melthehound says:

              Maybe she did and they just didn’t show her but I can’t imagine the producers passing up a Panda moment. No pun intended but that woman was just larger than life and she sang my kind of music. Not some tired ass overdone ballad.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                As detox said below…imagine how she would have sounded without the pneumonia? Let’s hope for a come-back.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Yep. She sang her heart out with “the pneumonia” (as she kept calling it), and then, once she went backstage, she had to be given oxygen and carried out on a stretcher. They were probably scared Boot Camp would kill the poor woman.

            If she sounded THAT good with pneumonia, I wonder how good she sounds HEALTHY. I hope she gets healthy and makes a comeback next year. I’d love to see her on the show again.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Hmm…Is Britney worth the $17 million? No.

        I am VERY happy that she appears to be lucid and coherent, though. I still feel like there’s a bit of “light” missing from her eyes, though. It’s like that “light and spark” she had behind her eyes as a teen and in her VERY early 20’s is almost all gone now.

        She IS surprisingly TOUGH as a judge too. I don’t know why, but I thought she would be easier on the contestants (Seeing as how she can’t really sing and all. She, like Janet Jackson, is a wonderful ALL-AROUND ENTERTAINER — with the dancing and the stage performances. I don’t really think either of them can sing all that well, though).

        I’ve been more impressed by Demi Lovato, actually, because I find her critiques to be very well-thought out and on point (She can also actually SING).

        From all the BUZZ that is ALREADY being generated about “American Idol,” and the feud between Mariah Carey and Nicki Minaj, it seems like Mariah is ALREADY earning her MILLIONS. More people are talking about tuning into the show just to see if Nicki and Mariah are going to COME TO BLOWS.

        I cannot STAND Nicki Minaj. She’s so gimmicky, and I’ve just never really been all that impressed. She’s also a HOOD RAT, IMO.

        I mean, if I were Mariah, I would be INSULTED that the powers-that-be sought to even let Nicki Minaj breathe the same AIR as me. Say what you want about Mariah, but she has written or co-written the MAJORITY of her songs and owns the rights to them (unlike poor Whitney Houston) and has a range that is out of this world (although I notice her voice is NOT as powerful/as good as it was when she was younger. I noticed the same thing about Aretha. Maybe it’s an age thing. Then again, Gladys Knight and Patti Labelle have aged and their voices are STILL just as STRONG as EVER!). This is the reason Mariah is worth about $300-$500 million.

        Nicki is worth $10-$20 million. She needs to HAVE A SEAT when it comes to going off on Mariah the way she did the other day. That was super-unprofessional.

        Oh yeah, I can’t wait to see Keith Urban on “American Idol” this season too.

        • melthehound says:

          If I remember correctly, Mariah is a classically trained opera singer. Someone can correct that if I’m remembering it incorrectly. Aside from her attempts at attention grabbing, I barely know who Nicki Manaj is. In fact, if no one ever said her name again, I would forget she ever existed.

          • djprincessc says:

            Mel, you’re Mariahs mom was a Opera Singer and did teach Mariah when she was a little girl. I’ve been a HUGE fan of Mariah since I was a little girl and have all her albums, Mariah and Nicki are UNCOMPARABLE. Although Mariah and Nicki have a song together, this was before Nicki was famous (the song sucked) so Idk at one point Mariah supported her. The only reason why Nicki can have a chip on her shoulder is because the the first female artist on Young Money which is Lil Waynes and Birdmans label. Other than that Nicki sucks and too vulgar. Nicki is worth like 7 million, Mariah is worth 500 million.

            Britney Spears I also love, she’s an amazing dancer/entertainer but after the whole melt down thing she doesnt have that spark in her eyes anymore, and she’s also had 2 surgeries on her knee so when she dances you can see she’s not the same, I also think being forced to work and if she could just stop she would IMO. I’ve seen a documentary about her and it was AMAZING and you truly feel sorry for her. She’s worth a lot of money too, last time I saw it was around 100 million, she makes A LOT from touring.

            • djprincessc says:

              That was supposed to say **Mel, you’re right**

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              I think, if Britney could really have it her way, she would retire and move back to Louisiana or some small town and just live the rest of her life in obscurity and financial security. I just get the feeling she wants to retire too.

              • princesspindy says:

                I think so too.

                • Orson says:

                  I wonder how many family members she’s supporting. She’s got 2 parents, 2 siblings, and a niece or nephew. She may be working to support more.

                  • djprincessc says:

                    Orson, her father gets paid for being her conservator I’m not sure if he still is but I think they are/were going to court because her fiancee is going to take over. Her older brother is part of her team, I think is her bodyguard (can’t remember) Her sister Jaime had her own show on Nickelodeon Zoey 101 and is also a singer, and I really don’t know what Britneys mom is up too so maybe she helps support the mom?? But I’m pretty sure she’s the only one she might support.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            I can’t see Nicki Minaj being around for years and years the way Mariah has.

            Mariah’s mother was a classically trained opera singer. She said her Mother told her that when she was about 2 years old, her mother sang a song, and Mariah sang it back to her with perfect pitch. She said her Mother could not believe how naturally talented she was. Her mother wanted her to pursue her singing talent. Her father wanted her to get a college degree and possibly go further than just that. He wasn’t too into the singing as a career. I think I read an interview once where Mariah said that this is ONE of the many issues that led to her parents’ divorce. When her parents divorced, Mariah, because she was still very young, stayed with her Mother, while her older brother and sister lived with and were mainly raised by her Father.

            She said whenever she would say, “IF I become a singer,” her Mother would ALWAYS stop her and correct her and make her say, “WHEN I become a singer, not IF!” She said this encouraged her and kept her visualizing it happening.

            Ironically, in their interview with Barbara Walters, when they introduced their twins to the world, BABS asked Mariah if she would allow her twins to get into the music business. Mariah said, “Well, they already seem to respond to music. So, I would want to support their dreams.” Nick Cannon said, “NO. I want them to get their EDUCATIONS. I feel like society spends too much time worshiping celebrities and athletes, when they should be worshiping people who get their educations, like doctors, lawyers and teachers.” (It hit me when I watched that this was Mariah’s mother and her father all over again when it comes to THAT issue. They seem like a GOOD and SOLID couple, though. So, I hope they work that out).

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              Oh yeah, I saw a later interview with Nick Cannon and Mariah where Nick said that had had to learn to play the drums for that movie “Drumline,” and he still plays for fun. He says that he drummed on a table or something in front of the baby boy, and the baby boy drummed it EXACTLY back to Nick the way he had just drummed it. He said he did it several times again on different surfaces, and eventually gave the toddler sticks to use too. The kid got it right EVERY time.

              So, I’m afraid ol’ Nick might not get his wish. There seems to be some natural talent there musically — with the boy twin at least. I don’t know about the little girl yet. All they say about her is that she is a DIVA just like her Mother, while the little boy is VERY LAID BACK AND EASYGOING (just like Nick Cannon, IMO).

              Those twins are gorgeous too. I could just eat them up with a spoon!

              • Nancy says:

                Nick needs to stay healthy. He’s probably going to be on steroids for a very long time.
                I think they make a great couple. Nick is one of the funniest people I’ve ever seen.
                He makes America’s Got Talent. IMHO

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  I think they make a great couple too. When they first got married, I was like, “WTF?!! Mariah Carey married corny-ass Nick Cannon. I would have NEVER put THOSE two together. I see this marriage being OVER in 5 minutes!!”

                  Now, after seeing several interviews and appearances they have made together, I “GET” it. Mariah chose VERY well when she chose him. He balances her out. He also works his butt off. He was forced to slow down when he got sick.

                  He’s also tall and seems have the same build and skin color as her FATHER. It’s like, if you look at pix of Mariah’s father, and squint a bit and look at Nick, you see the same thing. I remember Madonna saying the same thing about Sean Penn. That, she didn’t realize until later, how MUCH he looked like her father and that if she “squinted” a little, Sean Penn was her father’s twin.

        • PJ says:

          I just can’t watch any of these shows anymore. Britney Spears is under a conservatorship and not even in control of her own life yet she is going to guide others to stardom. I don’t want to watch that. To me AI got old a couple of seasons back and I could care less about Nicki Minaj. I did love America’s Got Talent but if Sharon is gone I won’t watch anymore.

        • stellastars21 says:

          Detox the best part of watching X Factor is reading Dave Holmes’ blogs. He thinks the same way as you do of Demi. His blogs are hilarious. If you’re bored you should read all the ones from this season. Here’s the one from last night

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Ooh, I love VULTURE. I didn’t know they were blogging the show. I WILL read these. Thanks, Stella!

          • Nancy says:

            Thanks stella.

          • stellastars21 says:

            You’re welcome. I even thought the part about producers editing sentences was really funny considering what we’ve been discussing about NJ lately. 🙂

  31. Nancy says:

    Our cable just went out as it’s really storming here. 😦 Hopefully it will come up soon.

  32. Powell says:

    For anyone that watches the new drama Jersey Girl, it was cancelled. Yike! I wanted to catch an episode. Oh well.

  33. AZGirl says:

    @ nancy. Good to hear that you have rain that means I should be getting some tomorrow.
    As for the “sports” I don’t see what the problem is. Part of which makes this Lynn’s Family is that we are able to talk about anything and be respectful (ableit politics which needs its own page)If you don’t want to read about sports than just scroll past the posts. Easy.
    Everyone cares about everyone here. Lets just all relax and enjoy the fact that we have the blog up and running thanks to NMD, BB, MTH and everyone else who contributes.

  34. Exit4 says:

    Sorry if this is a repeat, I am putting it in comments before I read above’ at 8:45 EST Before Miami Bravo is having a 15 minute preview of the Jersey reunion. Can’t imagine why-ratings are boffo already, but if anyone didn’t know to tune in I’m letting you know! I’m curious to see what it is….

  35. Powell says:

    Thks lulu and thks to your husband. I enjoyed both of your prospectives. The saying is men are from Mars and women are from Venus & I see that in your blog. Your husband honed in on the male ego w/how Nik may be feeling about Courtney walking around half dressed and you honed in on Shayne’s feelings of being disrespected as a wife in her marriage. I’m still skeptical of Simon & Alex being there. I look forward to your blog next week.

  36. Eastbayca says:

    Why do I do this to myself….and now I share 🙂

    toofab: So you think he favored Bethenny over you?
    Jill: 100 percent. I told him I thought he played favorites with Bethenny and I gave him specific examples, one being his socializing with Bethenny. He invited Bethenny to certain events and didn’t other housewives. He got defensive … very. You’ll have to watch that.

    toofab: What else can we expect from your interview with Andy?
    Jill: You’ll have to watch and see Monday for his reason for firing me. Whether you believe him or not is up to you.
    He basically says they listened to the fans, focus groups and social media. Clearly, he invited me back because the fans demanded to see my face. I don’t know how many tweets and emails and letters Bravo got. Let me tell you what I get; I have over a million followers and 50-100 a day are emailing me. I’m happy to share letters. I actually brought to the set 100 letters that I got.

    Jill: My dream is to have my own reality show that has the flavor of “Seinfield” meets “Everybody Loves Raymond.” That’s my dream show, I’m about to take it out and shop it and I hope my fans come Monday and show they do care and they want to see me back on TV.
    And believe me Bravo is where I started, they’re the ones that discovered me, they’re the ones that invested in me and maybe they’re the ones to ask me to have my own show.
    Kim [Zolciak]’s and Bethenny’s shows were amazingly successful and if I could bring the ratings Monday and it’s all about what the fans want, [Bravo] should listen.
    Out of all the housewives that have been fired or left I’m the only one still standing. None of the new housewives got a half a page in the Daily News on the day of their own reunion. They’re not on Andy’s show. And I’m not comparing; I’m happy for them, I’m not jealous of them and I hope they’re not jealous of me. But I want to come back for the fans.

    The rest of the interview..

  37. not THAT Jill says:

    LAINEY…remember the kid we talked about last night? Well she has some homework that is due tomorrow so if you can come and pick her up now…RIGHT NOW…that would be great…

    • princesspindy says:

      Jill, you may need to talk to her teacher about consequences for not doing homework. I did and it worked. The concept was it is her responsibility and you are not the homework police. If she is old enough to be sassy, she is old enough to do her homework. The consequences for not doing homework should come from the teacher, she gave it to her not you. Then when the grades come in, that’s where you apply consequences. This may sound radical but I got sick of worrying about my kid’s homework I would check it for them and I would help, if asked, but I was not going to nag. Hopefully the teacher will work with you if you decide to do this. Some teachers don’t want to be the bad guy or don’t want to hold the kid in from recess
      Just my two cents..

      • not THAT Jill says:

        Thanks for the advice-my older daughter never gave me a problem with homework. She is now 12 and has been doing her homework alone since she started school. My 6 year old would rather do anything then school work!!! Im going for a parent/teacher conference soon and will discuss this with her…thank you!!!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          WARNING: this about kids.. not about housewives… you’ve been warned!!! 🙂

          Jill, My daughter had a hard time, too. while my son did not. I hesitate to share the following, because I don’t want you to worry unnecessarily or to think that I’m diagnosing… but with my kids…After some testing it turned out he was adept at sequential learning – he was in the middle (in terms of learning style) and leaned to the left (left brain)…which is how most early and elem. education curriculum used to be designed, she’s now 21, he’s 24. My daughter’s strength was more “whole language” she scored way, way, way to the right. However on her tests for learning disabilities, she just wasn’t scoring in the realm of true learning disabled or ADD. She was just very right brained, she couldn’t learn and felt unsuccessful with the way lessons were presented and with the homework assignments. It was more about how she processed and learned the information.

          A friend gave me a book called RIGHT BRAINED CHILDREN LIVING IN A LEFT BRAINED WORLD. The subtle changes we made during homework time changed her life. We learned techniques to help her learn. It was truly life-changing. I know that sounds dramatic, but that’s how I feel. She, at 7, resisted her homework so much and when I started talking to her, she said that she felt dumb. It makes me cry to remember it now. She said that when she was with me she KNEW she was smart, but at school, she felt so dumb. So i set up an appointment with the diagnostician for both of my kids. Even though he wasn’t having probs, the lady was a friend of mine and did me a favor testing both kids. It turns out my son’s IQ was 138, my daughters was 130. So anyway, I’m sort of telling this out of order, but that book and also “Nurture by Nature” are the resources that saved my daughter from feeling dumb and possibly giving up on herself and they saved our relationship, as I learned great communication skills (nurture by nature) to reach her in a way that was gentle and nonthreatening.

          Jill, I share all of this with you to say that sometimes it’s just a case of a really smart kid who is bored and doesn’t respect the task (very common – that was my oldest). They just need some incentives and need you talk to them and validate them about how they are not entirely wrong, “yes, you’re right. This is too easy for you, but you’re learning other things, like respect and discipline and that’s important, too. I understand how you feel.” Other times, it’s a kid (my daughter) who processes information in an unconventional way and needs to have the information presented in a way that makes it more intrinsic and less like annoying external NOISE. you know?

          The good news, she will be graduating in Dec from the University of Texas, Austin. She has a heart to serve. She volunteers at a legal aid office that provides services for undocumented workers. Sorry if that’s too political…eek!! She takes time from her schedule to tutor kids in some of the most dangerous middle schools in our city. She is a trained dancer and a working fashion model (no, not lingerie shows in Vegas!!) haha! She got through that time in her life, with a lot of prayer and diligent attention …it was challenging sometimes but I wouldn’t trade seeing that angel’s face bursting with happiness when in 7 days she went from making 20’s on her spelling tests, to making 100s. All because of the new study techniques we learned together.

          • not THAT Jill says:

            LaineyLove-this is exactly the kind of talk I love. So informative-thank you!!!
            I think my biggest problem is that Maggie(6) is the polar opposite of Annabelle(12). Annabelle is one of those “extra” smart kids (not bragging-she isn’t smart b/c of me or her dad-its all her) who never struggled with anything having to do with school but is a bit socially awkward where Maggie has the potential to be a Queen Bee (God help me) and really has no interest in school AT ALL.
            I think her teacher is seeing improvement in her reading and writing and has called me for a conference b/c I sent a note asking about her progress. I am opened to any and all suggestions that the teacher has.
            I think I am part of the problem b/c I am so unprepared for her struggling b/c it is so different than what I went through with her sis. I need more patience and I need to stop comparing them (this I do in my mind-never out loud!!).
            Besides all of that the child is a JIVE TURKEY and always will be!!!

            • LaineyLainey says:

              She sounds pretty wonderful to me. Both your angels sound wonderful!!! If you’re struggling with how different she is from her older sis, the book “Nurture by Nature” could be helpful; since there are probably newer versions of it, make sure you get the one for parent/child relationships. It is a quick and really easy read and you will learn subtle things to do to help bring more joy into your dealings with each other. Oh and the darndest thing,…when she was having trouble with math, around 9y.o., she started taking tap and suddenly math made sense!!! pretty cool!

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              Jill, this made me laugh out loud. One of my girlfriends is going through a VERY similar struggle as you. She has 2 daughters also, and they are like NIGHT and DAY. Both of them are naturally athletic and good at sports.

              When it comes to academics, however, it is a TOTALLY different story. Her older daughter just has had NO interest in homework and studying. For her, school is a place where she SOCIALIZES. So, she’s gotten her daughter tutors and a therapist and everything. She works with her day-by-day and takes it day-by-day.

              Her younger daughter, however, has NO problem with academics. That just comes easily to her. She gets good grades; does her homework; and is just easy-breezy when it comes to that. However, she has a harder time making friends than her older sister for some reason. My friend told me that her younger daughter gets upset when she brings her little friends home for a sleepover, and they want to spend more time with her OLDER sister because they just find her so much FUN and so ENTERTAINING.

              So, it’s like YOUR situation, but in REVERSE.

              Just know that you are NOT alone. I’m sending prayers and white light and MUCH LUCK your way (with your little JIVE TURKEY [and your other daughter too]. 😉 ).

              • not THAT Jill says:

                Thanks Detox-this is the reason I love this blog!!! So much support and so many people with great knowledge and understanding!!!

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            Oh, Lainey, this is SUCH a great comment. You sound like such a good Mom. I’m so happy that both of your children have turned out so well.

      • lillybee says:

        ^That is what I did with my son. It took a long time for it to work but it did.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Jill…yes, these are frustrating times…hang in there babe!!

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:


      Tell that 6-year old to STOP acting like a JIVE TURKEY!! Then tell her that doing homework is DYNE-O-MITE!!

      She will probably look at you like you are TOTALLY crazy (but it might give YOU a little thrill).

      • LaineyLainey says:

        oh dang, I wish I’d seen this. this is much better advice than what I said. bwahahahahaha!! I just wrote my version of War and Peace. and for what? When “Jive turkey” was lurking in my subconcious! LOL!!

      • not THAT Jill says:

        She is a JIVE TURKEY…and youse a jive turkey too Detox…thanks for helping me bring it back…Florida Evans would know what to do with this 6 year old jive turkey!!!

  38. Cityside says:

    OK, I guess I have been busy with baby shower stuff.

    If you don’t want to know the score of the Cardinals vs ANYBODY, please skip the posts by Cityside, fan of the World Champion St. Louis Cardinals!

    Love, Cityside

  39. Cityside says:

    Cardinals 1
    Nationals 2

    We lose.

  40. Nancy says:

    Congratulations!!! They live another day. 🙂 Now that was a good game.

    • Cityside says:

      Bottom of the 9th tied game and a home run, Nancy…. you bet…good game!


      • Nancy says:

        I know I was watching it. I’m sorry your team lost but BB paid me to root for the
        Nationals this season.LOL Remember when we watched the world series together?
        I will never forget that. 🙂

        • Cityside says:

          I will always remember that series. I was surprised, in a good way, that so many of us were watching!
          BB, how much does it take to turn a Californian in to a Washingtonian?


          • Nancy says:

            I have so many sport related memories but your World Series has to be up there near the top for sure. I can’t tell you how much she is paying me. lol

            My LA Dodgers didn’t come through for me but my husbands SF Giants pulled off a good one earlier today.

            How have you been feeling?

            • Cityside says:

              Well, I don’t want to jinx it, but I might take a small fee to root for the Giants.
              I am feeling pretty good. One lasting problem is the dizziness. Gotta remember not to Jump out of bed in the mornin’. I have no idea how colon cancer surgery and dizziness are related, but it is what it is. CRAZY like a Zarin!

              Thanks for asking.

              ps. My Mom’s favorite team is the SF 49ers

              • Nancy says:

                The SF Giants are so nasty to the LA Dodgers so it’s hard for me to root for them.
                Your mother is a smart lady as the 49ers are the best.

                I’m not sure why you are still dizzy. I’ll do some research. You have come a long way though don’t you think?

                • Cityside says:

                  You bet. I am so so lucky. My OB-GYN died of colon cancer about a month after I found out about mine. WHOA!

                  Funny story related
                  I was crying really hard about everything I was going to be missing (cause I was thinking death ya know) and told my 26 yr old that I would never get to see her children. I said I did not care if her and BF got married, just get me a baby. I was balling! Serious crying going on.
                  Well, got my wish.
                  Baby plans first.
                  Wedding plans next.

                  • Nancy says:

                    What great news! You’re going to be a grandma soon. 🙂

                  • Nancy says:

                    You should bring this over to the new blog. 🙂

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    Oh dear Cityside, big lump in my throat. That is beautiful and wonderful and amazing and I am so happy for you and yours. Congratulations!!!

                  • Winston says:

                    *Jumps up and down* for you City. SO happy you are going to be a grandma and even more happy you beat the heck out of cancer.
                    I remember reading when you first posted about it and my heart sank because colon cancer is serious business. It is so heart-warming to see you doing so well and living the good life! I think of you often and you are one that has stayed in my prayers.

  41. JustDee says:

    Great blogs today everyone! THANKS!!!! Too many people to name ’cause I’m afraid I’d miss someone but – Special shout out to Mr Lulu for joining in!

    Jillz. Oh.My.Gawd. WHY did Andy Unleash The Beast? It feels like a bad horror movie where just when you think the monster is dead…………

    • Nancy says:

      I have a feeling Jill is going to regret this interview. The fact that Andy taped it first
      speaks volumes don’t you think?

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Yep. Jill is like Jason from “Friday the 13th,” Freddy Krueger on “Nightmare on Elm Street,” and the shark in “Jaws”!!

      Like those MONSTERS, that BITCH just will NOT die (no matter how many times she is STABBED, SHOT, etc.)!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        OMG – I’m picturing it. so funny!! Bam! It falls back and everyone breathes a sigh of relief and then it sits up again…. the audience groans/screams in terror. It’s baaaaaaack!!!

    • Winston says:

      HA! Although I don’t like to give her any attention, your comment made me laugh out loud for real.

  42. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO, Jill nagged and nagged Andy and he didn’t invite her back because of that. No I really think Andy is more concerned with his show’s ratings and hopes bringing Jill on will give him a boost.

  43. california35 says:

    hi every one,

    sorry sam and winston, Boducco’s is no longer… it was there one day and gone the next.

    • Sam says:

      Oh no!!!!!

      And here I had my fake nose and mustache all ready to go, so my Jenny Craig counselor wouldn’t spot me heading into the place.

      • Winston says:

        Well I was talking about Italia Deli in Agoura and it is still open. Bauducco’s in Moorpark closed and is now Cafe Firenze, the restaurant of Fabio of Top Chef fame.
        Did the Bauducco’s in Westlake close, too?
        Calif 35, you must live in that area. *waving* to a fellow neighbor.
        So Sam, keep your fake nose and moustache ready cuz I think Italia Deli is worth the cheat. You can also get a hard or soft roll and I like the hard, which also sets it apart from other sandwiches. The bread is freshly baked on site.

        • Sam says:

          Oh, I have a full Halloween William Shatner mask ready for my trip to Italia Deli, and a padded suit to go with it. I just have to cut the mouth slit a little bigger.

          • Winston says:

            LMAO! I might have to join you and take pictures for the blog.

            • Sam says:

              Okay, any time! But does the restaurant have a tie-rail for horses out front? I thought I might go with the Generations/equestrian version of Shatner, since you’re going to be taking pictures and all.

        • california35 says:

          yes, sorry about that, but it is close in Westlake also. unless there is another one i don’t know about. it is sad because their food was good 😦

  44. boston02127 says:

    Does anyone know if it’s true about Lauren Manzo getting married? It could of been posted but I’m scanning & going fast (sorry). Also, what happens to the lapband when she gets pregnant?

  45. boston02127 says:

    ^^^^^^^ Oh and good morning & have a good day everyone.
    Nice short day for me! 🙂

  46. Sus says:

    OT but you all are so smart, you might be able to help.

    I need a tool that allows multiple images to be re-saved all at once. Does anyone know of anything?

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