Housewife News and Tweets by NoMoreDrama
Sheee’s Baaaack. Oh my! I think the comments in the chat blog say it all. But here’s what Andy Cohen had to say on twitter.
Mark Consuelos (Andy’s buddy – Kelly Ripa’s hubby) said what we were all thinking …
Here’s a few from JillZ
During WWHL – crickets. ROFL!!!
Changing topics ….
Carole Radziwill has made Forbes Magazine. Why? For making the analogy that publishing a book is like giving birth to a baby. After all the various tabloids, gossip rags, etc. I’ve had to summarize over the last month or two – how refreshing to get to talk about analogies and Forbes. Thank you Carole. Read more here
Carole gave a non-confirmation on whether she’d return next year. From her twitter: “Thank u for all your sweet tweets. Like me you all get the humor in reality. Duh. It was a fun adventure. To be continued…maybe. Perhaps.”
As she weights her options, I’m sure she’ll factor in those book sales.
Yay for Carole. I admit – I’m biased and like her!! And besides – she tweeted this last night!
Andy Cohen was quiet on twitter last night during the reunion – but he did tweet this: “Taping #RHONY Reunion 2 weeks after #RHONJ was a gear shift for sure. It seemed like more listening & dialogue in NYC”
It’s such a shame that ratings aren’t higher for the NY version of the franchise. It was so much more pleasurable for me to watch! I cringe to think about what they’ll do next year to ramp up the drama and bring in NJ like ratings.
Watch What Happens Live Recap by Maryla
Show Affirms that Most Continue to Dislike (or H) Jill Zarin
(Maryla stepped in and offered to blog this for us last night. Thank you!!!! I was determined to watch Shawn Johnson on DWTS and it was so worth it! Photos are from the old IHJZ blog and by Boston. NMD)
Andy and Jill sit facing each other in chairs that seem uncomfortably close. At 11:00, we are off to the races. Andy dives right in to the questions.
Andy asks about her face. She says something about side effect of Omega 3 and the liquid facelift she got (for free by mentioning the Doc).
Andy asks about her reaction when Sonja, Ramona and Luann were coming back while she and the others were not asked to return.
She just wants to know “why?”
Andy blames the viewers for the decision (thanks Andy). He says viewers were the ones that wanted, dictated a change. Andy says the S4 was toxic and a turning point in the show. He said they took viewer input plus ideas from producers and BRAVO folks and decided a change was needed.
Cut to Jill. She clearly was not listening to a word he said. She was just waiting to cut in. “It felt like a death,” she said. Then she jumps into the Andy favored Bethenny angle. She accuses Andy of playing favorites. She says even Ginger didn’t get the star treatment that others, like Jiggy got. Bethenny was on WWHL one-on-one. She even acknowledges that Andy wrote about some of it in his book.
(actually that is the best chapter of his book — he goes into how annoying and petty these housewives [Jill] could be.)
Andy says that Jill is sensitive.
Uncomfortable chuckle from Andy — I wonder if he is thinking, “sensitive”—whoa, there’s an understatement. She’s irascible, hostile & touchy. She’s hypersensitive, that’s what she is.
OK, he may or may not be thinking that. I am definitely thinking that.
Jill goes on to say that the show is not the same since she was kicked off. She knows the ratings have been going down. She says that she and Alex should be brought back.
Wait a sec. Was that a bus zooming by the studio? Seems Jill just threw Cindy and Kelly underneath it.
Andy said that the network (aka Andy Cohen) feels like the change is a success. They introduced three new characters, and each week the ratings grew. He did acknowledge that initially ratings took a hit.
Andy says that at the end of S4, there was a lot of viewer feedback that the show was too toxic. Zarin says that it was more toxic at the end of Season 3, that she didn’t feel Four went to dark places.
In fact, she says that she and Alex in particular left S4 in a good place.
Cut to a clip of Jill calling Alex and F***ing bitch. (Nice. Does that girl have some fantastic people skills or what?)
Andy asks if she thinks that the current season is toxic.
Jill says, you brought out the JZ 2.0 model (Heather) who isn’t even Jewish—really, she didn’t convert?
Andy stops her, looks puzzled. Um, you think Heather was brought on to be you?
Jill continues, you never saw her house, the inside of her house. The kids, etc.
On some busy thoroughfare in Jill’s head people are always asking about her husband and mother and dog. Apparently, this is what makes for interesting TV –the inside of a person’s home.
Do you miss being on the show? Andy asks.
(Dumbest question of the night. Hello? Andy? You bet your bottom she misses being on the show. She is salivating at the thought that this interview will roll into being recast.)
Jill says that she has other irons in the fire. TV projects, squishing underpants, jewelry, etc. Everyone wants a piece of Jill Zarin.
That said, her relationships with all the ladies were stronger after S4. Ramona and Jill called a truce, although the husbands don’t agree. Mario nearly knocked her block off at a party and Ramona had to clean up.
(If there was a BS-O-Meter, this next part of the interview would be pegged to the “Nothing but Pure BS” part of the machine.)
Jill is now saying that the Bethenny fight from Season 3 was an elaborate, well-planned ruse designed to pump up the drama. Jill did not let anyone else in on her plan. However, in hindsight, Jill now realizes she played right into the hands of those dastardly producers at Bravo who used her made-up fight to turn Bethenny against her forever! FOR-EV-ER!
Jill said that she knew Bethenny was getting her own show. And in order to drum up viewers, they needed to play Bethenny in a sympathetic light. Her fight, which was nothing really, a farce, that could be undone once the magic words were said.
Andy, slightly confused, asks Jill to clarify (her lie) a little further.
Jill says that Bethenny didn’t want Jill to be on her new show. She doesn’t understand why, when she attempted reconciliation, she was turned away.
“Why she wouldn’t let me be friends any more. Jason and her did a scene on the show where Jason said, ‘we’re done,’ but Bethenny didn’t throw away THAT relationship.
Andy points out that Jason is her husband and the father of their child.
Jill says she has always been the type that fights with friends and then makes up. Why didn’t Bethenny make up with her?
Jill then says that she and Bethenny have put their differences behind them. She says she congratulated Bethenny on her talk show, her deal with Beam, etc.
(In other words, she has left messages on old cell phones for Bethenny).
Andy says, so you watch the shows?
Deer in the headlights!! Deer in the headlights!!!
Um, yes. I watch the show, but I can’t watch for long because Bethenny’s voice just gets on my nerves and makes my heart race.
(Not a typo there. Jill thinks that Bethenny has the more annoying voice.)
Jill follows up with “I would love to meet her baby.”
Andy said that it was a rumor that Jill tried to sabotage Bethenny, to get other people to not film with her so she would not have scenes.
Jill says that she learned that little trick from B herself.
(now B under the bus)
Andy wants to get back to the notion that Bravo was responsible for any rift between Jill and Bethenny.
Jill says Andy played favorites. He sided with Bethenny.
Andy is unsure/confused.
Jill asks, wasn’t she at your book signing party? Don’t you go out to dinner with her?
Andy says yes, but then says that Bethenny is no longer a housewife.
Then Jill says that she realized that in St. Thomas when she came in with Bawby that the producers had set up the chairs all in a row so that it was like a firing squad, a four against one scene.
Andy says that pedicures are typically not violent, or?
Jill says it took her a year to realize all of this.
(so creating an alternate reality is a slow build, not an at-one-time revelation. Good to know).
She said that seeing Aviva’s landing at St. Barts go the same way made her realize that she should’ve called Ramona.
“I completely miscalculated that,” Zarin said.
Then she launches into Aviva’s father mistreatment. Apparently Ramona (with whom Jill has a truce) was just horrible for kicking him out of her event.
“Who could forgive such a thing?” she asks.
Andy tells Jill that Ramona called JZ “jealous” on Anderson Cooper.
Jill is not going to dignify that. She said rather that she could understand how Aviva got to the place to call Ramonja “white trash.” But she’s not saying anything.
Way to keep the peace there, Zarin.
Andy asks about LuAnn and the St. Thomas Johnny Depp lookalike hookup.
Oh, who gives a shit about what Jill thinks of LuAnn.
Andy says, you say you’ve moved on, but you watch the show and tweet. If you have moved on, why do you tweet?
She gets 50 to 100 emails each day from her over 1 million social media followers.
Andy asks if she pays for followers.
She says what any classic liar says. Don’t answer the question. Respond with a question.
Zarin: Are you kidding me? I didn’t even know you could do that. Quick subject change.
“I didn’t even get to say goodbye.”
But, Jill asserts that she was never bitter about not being asked back.
(hahahahahahaha bwahhhaaahahahaha side hurts haha ahahaha!)
Andy asks after her family. She says that Gloria might still be a little mad at him. But Ali is at Vanderbuilt (a good distance away from JZ) and Bobby is good. Presumably still participating in the BJs jewelry club.
Andy says good to chat with you. She attempt awkward hug.
Real Housewives of New York Reunion Part 2 of 2 by BB
According to Andy, tonight is the “explosive” conclusion. Could anything be “explosive” after last night’s RHONJ reunion finale?
Topic: Tomas-gate or Luann’s Pirate Booty Call. Andy calls this perhaps the biggest scandal of RHONY. Really Andy? Whatever you say. (Cue scenes of the morning after the pirate booty call.) Andy announces that Jacques was invited to join this discussion but declined. Luann says they are still together and explains that if she tells Jacques nothing happened, then he believes nothing happened (Ramona’s big eyes get bigger at this statement). I didn’t hear Luann give plausible explanations as to why she didn’t take the available car home and chose to ride home with Tomas or why she said he wanted a tour of the house, when everyone knows he’s been there before.
Andy asks Ramona for her opinion because she’s always voiced certain allegations about Luann. Ramona says Luann loves her men and can’t keep her hands off of them. I wish Ramona hadn’t gone there because I think she was insinuating what happened in Luann’s previous marriage and the open relationship thing, not between her and Jacques. Luann tells her to zip it and that nobody’s marriage is perfect. Ramona backs off and tells her she’s sorry and didn’t mean to go there (but Heather and Carole both shout out that she did go there, and she did.)
Andy accuses Luann of lying to Jacques on the phone the next morning. Luann says she didn’t lie, she just didn’t tell him the whole story. Luann admits she did panic and try to cover up that Tomas was there. She says even though nothing happened between them, she should never have done it and that she and Jacques have had difficulty getting through it. I think that’s the first time I’ve ever seen Luann get that emotional about anything. Whether she was sorry she did it or whether she was sorry she got caught we’ll never know. Like Carole says, it’s never the crime it’s always the cover-up, like Watergate.
Sonja brings up the fact that both she and Luann are divorced women with children and they want to protect them. Carole then brings up the fact that maybe Luann shouldn’t have brought Tomas back to the house if she was worried about her children. Luann again wants to know why Carole is coming after her. Carole says that what’s this reunion is all about, people giving their perspectives. Poor Carole is damned if she does say something and damned if she doesn’t. She has a right to give her opinion, too.
Topic: Spicy and Sexy Sonja. (Cue Sonja sexy scenes, of which there are many.) Andy cannot believe he is going to ask this viewer question about sloppy seconds and money can buy you ass. Andy, if in doubt, leave it out. Luann mentions it can’t be sloppy seconds when there was any firsts. Good save Luann. Andy asks Sonja if Tomas actually played in the back yard. Yes, folks, Andy went there. Sonja’s response is they took a walk in the garden and that is that. Another terrible viewer question: If she likes it in the booty all the time and of course she doesn’t answer the question. Andy asks Sonja if it was appropriate to hit on the house staff. Sonja says nothing happened with the chef, it was fun and harmless.
Andy asks Aviva why she cares who Sonja sleeps with when her father, who is also single, sleeps around. Aviva’s answer is that her version of a “girls” trip is different from Ramonja’s. It’s massages and things like that. One of the other women says “taking vitamins” jokingly. What was happening wasn’t what she was expecting on the trip. Sonja tells them to think of what men to on their trips to Vegas. Same thing. Aviva says it’s awkward when you’re married. Ramona says she works hard, she plays hard.
Andy is obsessed with the “ladies” pond. I think he asks every woman he ever meets about it. He asks, if Ramona and Sonja swam in the girl pond. Of course they didn’t, even if Andy would like it to be so. He has a weird fascination with the subject. Carole pipes up that she has slept in the same bed with her best girlfriend and it’s nothing.
Topic: Horny George Drescher. (Cue scenes of George in all his inappropriateness.) Andy asks for a showing of hands who think George is inappropriate. All raise their hands. Andy wants to know how Aviva can call Ramonja low class when she pimped her father out to her friend Sonja. Aviva explains low class is how you treat others and her dad, though inappropriate, is warm, kind and welcoming when Ramonja was not.
Sonja was not offended by the set up by Aviva until she saw that she would not set up George with Carole because Carole was her “friend.” Then Sonja questioned Aviva’s motives. Aviva explained that she didn’t know Sonja as well in Miami and she had become close friends with Carole by the time George said he wanted to go out with her. Carole, who has written an as yet unpublished book about being a widow and dating, says George is breaking all the rules of dating. By the way did Andy ask Carole about why her book is not yet published? I don’t remember. There is a discussion about Aviva’s double standards as to how Ramonja acts and as to how George acts. Aviva tells them her dad is old and if she wants a relationship with him, she has to accept him the way he is. I guess she has a point, but why be so judgmental about Ramonja? That’s what I don’t get.
Topic: Toastergate. Andy asks about the toaster oven we’ve never seen. (Cue scenes of the toaster oven advertisement campaign war between Sonja and Heather.) Per Sonja, it’s ready to go, it’s part of a whole collection. Heather had advised Sonja to umbrella her brand. Luann doesn’t understand what Sonja wanted and she’s confused. Me, too. Heather gets frustrated when Sonja brings out her signature and branding posters.
Heather tells Sonja she cannot get out of her own way and accuses her of trying to make a joke of Heather. Heather further tells Sonja she wouldn’t know hard work if it bit her in the ass. Luann is with Heather on this one and so am I. Ramona is keeping quiet for once, which to me speaks volumes. The bottom line is, like it or not, Heather tried to help Sonja free of charge. Sonja doesn’t seem that appreciative of Heather’s efforts even though she says she adequately thanked Heather. Heather does not want to work with her ever again. Andy cannot wait to toast a piece of bread in Sonja’s toaster oven. Any may starve waiting for this one. Put the posters away, Sonja, they are all laughing at you.
Topic: Sonja’s hard times. (Cue Sonja going through a hard time in her life, including the Anna Nicole Smith reference by Aviva and her settlement meeting with her ex.) Bottom line is it doesn’t sound like much has happened in the settlement with the ex issues. Sonja is going to sell her house in France, although she won’t get enough to pay all of her bills. She’s not in a spiral downward. She’s doing very well now. Sonja thinks Aviva was mad when she compared her to Anna Nicole Smith. Aviva admits she didn’t mean it and it was a snarky comment. Aviva says she cared for Sonja and she still does. Andy asks Sonja about her dog Millou who passed away this past March after she had him for 18 years. It was the saddest part of the reunion.
Topic: Aviva and Ramona. (Cue all scenes of Ramona and Aviva arguing, which was a lot.) Ramona thinks Aviva’s issues are misplaced and her anger at her is not justified. It makes Ramona’s heart race looking at the scenes. Needless to say, Ramona and Aviva will probably never agree about what happened at Ramona’s charity event. Enough said. Aviva does take back that she thinks Ramona needs to go to rehab. She’s very sensitive because her mom died of alcoholism. She’s extremely sensitive to partying, she overreacted and she apologizes for it. She tells Ramona she has every right to go on vacation and get hammered. She just vacations differently.
Topic: Ramona drinking. Andy brings up the fact that last season Jill and Kelly accused Ramona of having a drinking problem. He asks Carole and Heather if they think Ramona has a drinking problem. Ramona, justifiably, gets upset with Andy and tells him to joke on her for anything other than that. She tells Andy she’s had it. He can joke on her talking too much or joke on her blue dresses, but to stop bringing that up. She does not have a drinking problem and she’s tired of it coming up. Luann points out that Ramona can hold her alcohol better than Sonja. Heather and Carole both say they do not think Ramona has a drinking problem.
Topic: Final moments. Why does Sonja Morgan have interns? For companionship, to help her with her social media, things like that. Did Carole date George Clooney? Yes, when they were both single, before she finished her first book. She has met Stacey Kiebler. Who’s changed the most? Sonja thinks Heather has gotten more attractive. What is Aviva’s runaway bride story? Aviva cancelled the wedding a week before because they were incompatible. Ramona asks if he wanted her to sign a prenup, to which Aviva tells her no, to get her facts straight. That’s what Ramona and Sonja had heard. Andy asks if everyone feels like they resolved their issues. Ramona gets up like they are finished and Andy tells her they are still on camera. Andy asks Ramona if she accepts Aviva’s apology. Ramona heard her apology and she will have to digest it. Ramona feels less resolved at the end of the reunion.
Andy thanks them all for an entertaining season. He tells the three new ladies it was fun getting to know them and tells the three veterans they are like old friends.
Basketball Wives – L.A. By Detox
Welcome back to Basketball Wives L.A.
We begin this week in the same place we ended last week: Gloria’s going-away party at a restaurant where Jackie and Draya are having a heated exchange that looks like it may lead to a physical altercation. We have a re-play of some of the exchange shown last week. For instance, Draya tells Jackie that she is a grown-up and not a baby (because she feels that Jackie is disrespecting her and talking to and treating her like a child). Malaysia interviews that Jackie decided she “wanted to be Tupac and disrespect Draya.”
At some point, while Draya and Jackie are having words, Jackie calls Draya a “li’l bitch” and “a ho.” She apparently calls Dray “a ho” more than once because Draya interviews that she had enough “after the 19th ho.”
Jackie interviews that she does not know why Draya decided to ruin the get-together (Of course, Crazy Jackie acts like she played NO part in the ruining of Gloria’s going-away party).
While they are having words, Jackie tells Draya that she has NEVER stooped to the level of “a ho” in her life. Draya says something I cannot understand back to her. Apparently whatever Draya said was bad enough to make Jackie angry enough to stand up. Draya also stands up.
Jackie then lunges toward Draya, and Draya lunges toward Jackie. They both start swinging as they lunge. The other women and Security jump in between the two of them before they can have an actual physical fight. Security ends up escorting only Jackie out of the restaurant (I am not quite sure why Jackie is the only one escorted out of the restaurant).
Back inside the restaurant, someone (I could not figure out who) asks Draya why she would try to “swing on an Auntie” (Oh, SNAP!! They are basically saying Jackie is old compared to the rest of them). Draya interviews that she cannot believe she even stooped to that level.
Gloria tells Laura to go outside and check on Jackie. Laura is initially resistant, but she eventually relents and walks outside to talk to Jackie, who is standing outside of the restaurant. Laura interviews that she has to “work” too much in her friendship with Jackie, and she does not even have to work that hard with any of her four (4) children.
When Laura does meet Jackie while Jackie is standing outside of the restaurant, she tells Jackie that she thought the whole thing was “a joke.” Jackie defends her behavior. While she is defending her behavior, she starts crying. She tells Laura that Draya kept provoking her, and it really hurt her feelings.
Laura responds by telling Jackie that she could have handled the whole situation in better ways. She tells Jackie that one of those ways was by just getting up and leaving when she and Draya started to have words. Jackie tells Laura that Draya “hurt her soul” (Oh, please, Jackie! Stop being such a damned DRAMA QUEEN!!).
Jackie then tells Laura to tell Gloria “goodbye” on Jackie’s behalf when Laura goes back into the restaurant. Laura interviews that dealing with Jackie is emotionally draining. She says that she thinks that Jackie is a good person inside. She’s just “lost” (I do not think Jackie is “lost.” Instead, I think Jackie LOST her damned MIND ages ago!).
After all of that drama, Jackie and Bambi meet for lunch. Bambi asks Jackie how her 17th Wedding (Oh, God! I just feel so ridiculous when I type the words “17th Wedding”!!) plans are going. Jackie tells Bambi that her plans are going well, but she is still a little stressed over everything. Jackie asks Bambi if she will still be attending her wedding. Bambi assures Jackie that she will, indeed, attend.
Jackie then tells Bambi that she recently saw Malaysia, and Malaysia told Jackie that she was angry at her for what took place at Gloria’s going-away party. Jackie asks Bambi for her opinion about what took place.
Bambi tells Jackie that, in her opinion, Draya just wants to be liked, and Draya feels that she will be able to accomplish this by ensuring that there is somebody besides her that everybody ELSE DISlikes. According to Bambi, Draya is trying to make Jackie THAT person (I do not know what the HELL Bambi is talking about, and I totally disagree!!). Jackie smiles at this and eagerly agrees (to that b*llsh*t reason provided by Bambi)! Bambi tells Jackie that she thinks that Jackie and Draya are actually going to physically fight the next time they see each other if things between them remain where they are right now.
Bambi then asks Jackie what she is going to do if Draya decides she wants to talk to Jackie (I do not see Draya deciding to do this, but I could be wrong. I doubt it, though). Jackie responds that she will listen to Draya before she responds, “But it won’t be pretty!” She tells Bambi that Draya is going to have to grovel on the ground like a dog and beg for an apology before Jackie gives her one (Don’t hold your breath on Draya’s groveling, Jac!).
Bambi interviews that she has developed “a soft spot” for Jackie (Why, Bambi? I was really starting to like you, Bambi. You are now making me reconsider my opinion). Jackie interviews that she is afraid of what she might do to Draya if and when she sees her. She also interviews that she feels like Bambi could be a great friend to her (How do you know this, Jackie? You basically JUST met the woman!).
Jackie then asks Bambi about her music career. Bambi says she is putting finishing touches on her album, and she is getting ready to have her first show in L.A. Jackie tells Bambi that she is excited for her.
Next, we see Malaysia, Malaysia’s sister, Laura and Bambi meet up at a Public Relations Gifting Suite for the Lupus Foundation. Malaysia interviews that her new publicist, Mimi Davis, put the event together, and she asked Malaysia to host.
At a certain point, Malaysia, her sister, Laura and Bambi are standing around talking. Laura tells Malaysia to tell her sister what occurred during Gloria’s going-away party. Malaysia briefly tells her sister the story.
Laura tells the women that she was “done” with Jackie after that. She explains that she finds Jackie to be too emotionally draining. Laura then tells the women that Jackie asked her to be the Maid of Honor at Jackie’s 17th Wedding.
Malaysia says that Jackie initially asked HER to be the Maid of Honor, but she was downgraded by Jackie to a mere bridesmaid because Malaysia did not respond to Jackie’s text quickly enough (Jackie may LOOK like she is 44 years old, but she is really 11 or 12 years old in her head. This downgrading of Malaysia from her Maid-of-Honor to a bridesmaid because Malaysia failed to respond quickly enough to her text PROVES this.)
Bambi then tells the women that Jackie invited her to the wedding. Laura interviews that Jackie would invite “the bartender” to her wedding because that is “how desperate” she is.
At this point, Malaysia’s publicist, Mimi, comes up and tells her that she would like Malaysia to make a brief speech to the crowd. Mimi then takes Malaysia’s hand and leads her through the crowd to a microphone where she can do this. Malaysia interviews that having to do this makes her EXTREMELY nervous. She says that her heart “fell into her stomach” when Mimi asked her to make a speech addressing the crowd, and she was “freaking out.”
Malaysia tells Mimi that this is going to be very difficult for her because she is shy. Mimi encourages Malaysia and tells her that she knows Malaysia can do it. Once Malaysia picks up the microphone, Laura is on the sidelines also encouraging her.
Malaysia finally addresses the crowd, and she does a very good job. She thanks everyone for coming out to support the Lupus Foundation. She then thanks the vendors and her publicist, Mimi, for putting the entire event together.
Malaysia interviews that the Event was “great”! She says she is thankful to Draya for introducing her to “this world” because Draya may have just “created a monster.” She smiles as she says this.
Next, we see Brooke standing in some type of recreational facility with three (3) children. Brooke interviews that she has brought her 3 children to Sky Zone so that they can play with each other and with Draya’s son, Nicco, who will also be meeting them. Draya arrives and introduces her son to Brooke’s children.
All of the kids, along with Brooke and Draya, begin playing by jumping in this HUGE “bouncy area” (I do not know how else to describe it).
Draya interviews that she wants to talk to Brooke about what took place at Gloria’s going-away party, and she feels that doing it in a place surrounded by their children will prevent any hostility from arising (between Draya and Brooke). She further interviews that she and Brooke took a break from playing with their kids to talk.
Once Brooke and Draya take a break, Draya brings up Gloria’s going-away party, and Brooke immediately tells Draya that she NEVER thought Draya was “going to swing on Jackie”! Draya tells Brooke that Jackie just “takes” her “there,” and she is “just tired of it!” She further explains to Brooke that she was infuriated by Jackie’s use of too many “ho’s” to describe her and by Jackie treating her like a child by condescending to her and even, at one point, handing her a lollipop. She then says that she does NOT see her speaking to or being friends with Jackie either AT ALL or at least not for a VERY long time. Finally, Draya says that Jackie is “the joke” of the group, but she does not realize that all of the other women laugh at her behind her back.
Brooke then asks Draya if she can be “in the same room” with Jackie at this point. Draya says she does NOT think she can.
Brooke then brings up Jackie’s 17th Wedding, and she tells Draya that she wants to go because it is going to be at a gay club, which means it will probably be very fun. Draya says she can go to a gay club on her own any time she wants. She does not have to go to Jackie’s wedding to do this. She says she is “DONE” when it comes to dealing with Jackie.
Next, we see Bambi having a sound check for her upcoming show when Draya arrives. Draya interviews that she went to the sound check to show her support for Bambi.
After Draya arrives, Bambi and Draya start to discuss the night’s show, and Draya asks her if she has also invited Jackie to the show. Bambi tells Draya that she did invite Jackie. Draya tells Bambi that, because Jackie will be attending the show, she is just going to “sit this one out.” She explains that she does not think Bambi’s show is the right environment for her to see Jackie for the 1st time since their (almost physical) altercation.
Bambi tells Draya that she wants to like Draya AND Jackie. She interviews that Draya should attend the concert to support HER and just say, “F*ck Jackie!”
It is now “Showtime” for Bambi! Jackie and an “unknown” friend arrive at the venue where Bambi’s concert is going to be held. She interviews that she is excited to see Bambi perform her 1st show in L.A.
Laura arrives next, and Jackie excitedly gets up to greet her with a hug. Laura interviews that Jackie’s outfit makes her look like “a hooker from the 1800’s.” (I have to say that I agree. Jackie looks like she is wearing a pirate’s jacket on top. This is accompanied by shorts that are so short that they look like she actually is NOT wearing ANYTHING and PINK fishnet stockings. Does this woman REALLY have a clothing line or two? JEEZ!! From the looks of this particular ensemble, Jackie needs to shut her clothing lines down and focus on hiring a good STYLIST instead).
Very shortly after Laura arrives, Jackie brings up her fight with Draya at Gloria’s going-away party, and she asks Laura if Laura thinks she was “wrong.” Laura says, “Yes!” (I like that Laura is honest).
Finally, Malaysia arrives. Jackie immediately tells Malaysia that she and Laura were discussing the fight she had with Draya at Gloria’s going-away party. She then tells Malaysia that if Draya comes to her and apologizes, she will hug Draya and have Draya suck her breast like a baby (…Ummmm…..WTF??!!! Malaysia gives Jackie a look that says exactly what I just typed). Malaysia interviews that Jackie went “on some kind of tangent about Draya” as soon as Malaysia arrived at the concert venue.
Finally, we see Bambi come out on stage and perform. She is dressed in hot pants and a crop top, and she raps her heart out as she moves back and forth across the stage (I actually think she put on a good show). Laura interviews that Bambi’s show was “great,” and she notes that Bambi had “good raps and great dance moves” (I agree.). She further interviews that there is no way she would ever have great dance moves. All she has is her same side-to-side-step kind of dancing.
Malaysia interviews that, even though this was supposed to be Bambi’s show, Jackie, because of her behavior during the show, made sure that she brought it back to “The Jackie Show.” This is supported by the fact that, during the show, Jackie, in the midst of standing up and dancing, suddenly stops and just breaks out into tears.
Malaysia goes over to her and gets Jackie to sit down. Once Jackie sits down, Malaysia comforts her and asks her why she is crying. Jackie explains that the show makes her miss her Mom because they used to do fun things like the concert together (So, Jackie and her MUCH OLDER Mom [based on my memory of seeing Jackie’s mother last season] used to do “fun” things like attend rap concerts? Oh, Please, Jackie!!). Malaysia continues to comfort her.
Laura interviews that Jackie needs to just go into “a cave” and have her crying jags there (I think Jackie needs to go into a psychiatric facility to have these crying jags).
Laura and Brooke meet for lunch. They begin discussing the physical fight that Draya and Jackie almost had at Gloria’s going-away party (AGAIN??!! This “almost-fight” happened at the beginning of THIS episode, and I am ALREADY tired of hearing about it!!).
Laura interviews that she is “cool” with Draya, but if “you continue to talk sh*t, you will always get beat (I’m assuming that the “you” to whom Laura is referring is Draya. I don’t necessarily think that a person who talks sh*t will ALWAYS get “beat”[en]. I mean, a 6’5 boxer can talk all the sh*t he wants, and I doubt VERY seriously that he will ALWAYS “get beat”[en]).
Laura tells Brooke that, in her opinion, Draya needs to leave Jackie alone and just “keep it moving.” Brooke agrees with Laura (I do too, and I think this is Draya’s plan EXACTLY).
Laura then tells Brooke that Draya needs to pick her battles more carefully. She interviews that, if the group is going to all hang out together, they need to figure this situation (between Draya and Jackie) out.
Laura then changes the subject and tells Brooke that she went to (Brooke’s mortal enemy) Bambi’s show. Brooke, through gritted teeth (I am lying. Brooke’s teeth were not gritted, but I’m sure they were gritted together in her mind because she and Bambi apparently cannot stand each other), asks Laura how the show was (as if she really gives a sh*t! I’m sure she is secretly hoping that Laura says that Bambi and her show were terrible, and Bambi should just give it up and get a job at Burger King instead).
Laura raves about Bambi’s show and cannot seem to compliment Bambi and her show enough (I’m sure, in Brooke’s mind, she is thinking, “B*TCHES!!!!” about BOTH Bambi AND Laura).
Laura then tells Bambi how Jackie ALWAYS makes everybody’s attention come back around to focusing on HER. She also disses Jackie’s concert outfit and describes how awful it was to Brooke. She then says that, at Bambi’s concert, Jackie would intermittently break out into tears, and then get back up and start dancing 30 minutes later. Laura explains that Jackie did this little routine MORE THAN ONCE during Bambi’s concert because Jackie is stark-raving MAD, and she wants Brooke to join her and the rest of the women in having an intervention for Jackie to encourage her to enter a psychiatric facility.
Alright, part of the preceding sentence was a COMPLETE LIE. Here’s the truth: Laura actually said that Jackie did this little crying/dancing routine more than once during Bambi’s concert (There was no mention of an intervention or any psychiatric facility….UNFORTUNATELY! A girl CAN dream, though!).
Finally, Laura tells Brooke that Jackie makes EVERYTHING about HER. Brooke just looks at her.
Brooke then changes the subject and tells Laura that her birthday is coming up, and she is planning a birthday pool party to celebrate. Laura asks Bambi if she will be wearing a bikini at her pool party (No, Laura. Bambi will probably wear a BURKA and some sandals. Of COURSE, she is going to wear a BIKINI, Laura!! The woman is a BIKINI MODEL for God’s sake!!). Bambi says, “Yes.”
Laura says she does not want to wear a bikini next to Brooke (I don’t blame her because Brooke’s body is SLAMMING. I would be wearing an extra-large hat, sunshades and a long-sleeved mumu next to Brooke in a bikini!).
Bambi, Malaysia and Draya meet at a place called “Waffle Mix.” Malaysia immediately brings up the “almost-physical” fight Draya and Jackie had at Gloria’s going-away party, and she asks Draya, “Why did you want to fight with a SENIOR CITIZEN?!” (Ooh, SNAP!!).
Draya responds that the environment quickly became hostile between her and Jackie, and it happened so quickly that this (the “almost-physical fight”) was the result of that rapid hostility.
Malaysia says that, if anything was going to happen altercation-wise, she thought that it might have taken place between Bambi and Brooke, considering their rocky history.
The women then change the subject to discuss the “Bambi vs. Brooke” situation. Draya tells Bambi that, in her opinion, it sounds like what took place between Bambi and Brooke was “just some petty ‘girl stuff’.” She also says that she hopes the two of them can work everything out.
The subject changes again when Malaysia tells them about Jackie’s strange behavior during Bambi’s concert. Malaysia explains that Jackie was dancing and appeared to be having a good time, but she then broke into a fit of tears, causing Malaysia to go over and comfort her and find out what was wrong (I love Malaysia. She is so kind. When it comes to Jackie, I am NOT kind. I would have continued to shake my groove thang while she had a nervous breakdown right there in front of me because the Producers probably got me into the concert for FREE! I LOVE free stuff! If Jackie would have somehow grabbed onto my legs or body for some type of attention or comfort or help, I would have told her, “This is a concert, NOT a therapy session. I ain’t got time FA DAT!!,” as I pried her hands off of my body. I would have then proceeded to continue to dance and scream and shout. Thank God for the Malaysia’s of the world.).
Malaysia further explains that Jackie told her she started crying (the FIRST time) because she was having so much fun, and it reminded her of her recently-deceased mother because they would always have fun together. Malaysia tells Bambi and Draya that she thought, “…Ummm….WHAT? You mean you and your Mom used to attend RAP Concerts together for fun? I mean, you’re pretty old yourself. So, I’m sure your Mom was at an advanced age. I can’t imagine an old woman at a rap concert!!” (That’s the same thing I thought and typed earlier, Malaysia! Great minds think alike!).
Malaysia says that, once she calmed Jackie down, Jackie then began dancing like a mad woman and having fun again before, eventually, breaking out into sobs AGAIN (for the SECOND time). Malaysia tells Bambi and Draya that, at this point, she was like, “Oh, COME ON!! REALLY??!!” (Even a sweetie like Malaysia has her limits).
Finally, Malaysia tells Bambi and Draya that Jackie pulled this dancing/crying routine a THIRD time. Draya tells Malaysia that Jackie needs to sit and cry in her HOUSE! Malaysia interviews that Jackie is a VERY sweet person, but it’s just the “OTHER people in her brain that are NOT”!!
Malaysia then tells Draya and Bambi that she is going to have a long talk with Jackie because she is “fed up” with Jackie’s mistaking her kindness for weakness. She explains that she feels like she has been doing her best to try and help Jackie get re-incorporated into the group, but she is the one that Jackie disregards and takes for granted (I agree).
Somehow, the subject of Jackie’s wedding comes up. Bambi asks Malaysia and Draya if they will be attending. Draya looks at Bambi like she is crazy and gives an emphatic, “NO!” as her response. She tells Bambi and Malaysia that she did not attend Jackie’s (16th) wedding last year either. She gracefully lets the women know that she decided to take that day and have her “coochie waxed instead” (T.M.I., Draya! T.M.I.!!) Draya then interviews and says, “PSA, People: Draya will NOT be attending Jackie’s wedding!!”
Laura and Jackie meet for lunch. Jackie interviews that she invited Laura to get together for lunch. Jackie tells Laura that she is stressing about her upcoming wedding (Why, Jackie? You’ve done this song and dance 16 times already!! You should have the whole “wedding routine” down pat by now!).
Jackie then brings up the fact that she has asked Laura if she will be her Maid of Honor at this wedding. Laura tells Jackie that she was resistant to the idea when Jackie first asked her, but after having some time to think about it, she was touched that Jackie asked her (I still did not hear an answer, Laura. Is it “Yes” or “No”?). Jackie just smiles after Laura says this.
Laura then changes the subject and tells Jackie that it “weirds (her) out” that Jackie cries at the drop of a dime. Jackie says that she is just emotional (Yes, you are emotional, alright – EMOTIONally DISTURBED!).
Jackie then says that she feels like the other women talk about her behind her back (That’s because they DO! Your instincts are correct, Jackie.). Laura tells Jackie that, if the women do talk about Jackie, it is because she switches personalities at the drop of a hat. She uses the altercation she had with Draya at Gloria’s party as an example and basically tells Jackie that Jackie went from being the “Sweet Big Sister” to the “Big, Bad Fighter” to the “Weeping Willow” (I am really loving Laura’s honesty right now). Jackie just looks at her.
Jackie then uses Laura’s mention of her altercation with Draya to bring the subject up (AGAIN) and to ask Laura (AGAIN) for her opinions. Laura tells her that “Draya talks big sh*t, but she’s a little person.” She then tells Jackie that the tension and problems with Draya and Jackie will NOT end “until (Jackie) puts her foot in Draya’s a*s or in her mouth!” (Ummm….what?! Laura, why are you encouraging this craziness with Jackie?). Jackie interviews that Laura’s saying this made her feel good because, as far as she knows, Laura is neutral and has not picked sides (So I guess Laura saying this makes Jackie believe that she was “in the right” when it came to her altercation with Draya).
Laura then tells Jackie that she is sorry that she laughs about Jackie’s “15 different personalities.” Jackie just looks at her. Laura tells Jackie that she should not even CARE what others think or say about her. Laura then admits that she DID tell the other women that Jackie’s concert outfit looked like something out of the movie, “Glory” (This is not altogether true, Laura. You actually said that Jackie’s outfit made her look like “a hooker from the 1800’s.”). Jackie laughs. She interviews that she thinks she and Laura are “in a good place.”
Next, we see Bambi and Laura in a clothing store. Bambi interviews that she is excited about Jackie’s wedding. She further interviews that Jackie has also asked HER to be IN the wedding, and she agreed (Ummm….WHAT??!! Bambi and Jackie have known each other all of 10 minutes. I bet if I would have been around the “Basketball Wives – L.A.” set at the time of filming and told Jackie, “Hello,” she would have asked ME to be a bridesmaid too!). She then interviews that the reason they are in a clothing store is so that they can find dresses to wear as bridesmaids in Jackie’s wedding.
Malaysia arrives and meets the girls in the store. She watches Bambi and Laura try on different outfits/costumes to wear as bridesmaids in Jackie’s wedding. She interviews that is was fun watching them try on all of the different outfits.
At a certain point, Laura tells Malaysia and Bambi that she may not even be able to attend Jackie’s wedding. Bambi and Malaysia look at Laura in shock. They then ask Laura if she has told Jackie this. Laura nonchalantly says that she does not think she is even going to TELL Jackie. Once again, Bambi and Malaysia look at Laura in shock.
Bambi interviews that, when it comes to Laura and Jackie, she just wants to ask Laura, “Are you her friend or NOT? Are you going to the wedding or NOT?” She then interviews that Laura is starting to get on her nerves with this indecisiveness.
Malaysia then tells Bambi and Laura that she will NOT be attending the wedding either. According to Malaysia, she is not attending because she feels like Jackie takes her for granted when she is the one who has fought for Jackie the most. She says that this hurts her feelings (and I do not blame her).
Malaysia then tells Laura that she just needs to admit that Jackie has a special place in her heart. Laura denies this. Laura then basically says that, if Jackie were to die, she’d think, “Wow! Jackie died. That’s messed up. What am I going to have for dinner? I think I want a drink too.” Bambi and Malaysia just look at her.
Malaysia interviews that, at this point, Bambi may end up being Jackie’s bridesmaid, Maid-of-Honor and flower girl all rolled into one (That’s funny, Malaysia).
Bambi interviews that, when it comes to Jackie’s wedding, Laura and Malaysia are “being rude” (Don’t be so quick to judge, Bambi! You did not have the horrible experiences with Jackie that these women had last season!).
Coming Up During The Rest Of The Season:
Instead of showing what will be happening on the very next episode, a montage of scenes appeared on the screen showing what will be taking place during the rest of the season, and these things are as follows:
Someone (probably Gloria) is on a movie set while a scene is being filmed.
Someone goes skydiving.
Draya and Brooke meet with a boxing trainer in a boxing ring.
Jackie’s 17th Wedding takes place.
Bambi and Draya kiss (Ummm….Say what, now?!?!).
Some (or all) of the women take a trip to Seattle.
Malaysia confronts Jackie about how she really feels about Jackie’s treatment of her.
Jackie has a conversation with BOTH of her daughters, and plenty of tears are involved. Laura says she wanted Jackie to talk to her daughters because it is long overdue.
Laura tells someone that she is going to “do” Jackie the same way Jackie “did” her last season.
Bambi says she “can’t roll with FAKE B*tches!!”
Brooke and Jackie almost get into a physical altercation (Again, Jackie!! I thought you said that you could tell that you and Brooke were going to be “great friends”! I’m shocked. NOT!!).
Dancing with the Stars –All Stars, Week 4, Dance selections assigned by competitors – by COCFarm
For those of you watching and tuning in for the results show, they are on an HOUR EARLY tomorrow! They precede the presidential debate and there will be no recap show…just the results show at 7pm CENTRAL time.
Okay, on with the show. I really enjoyed Paula Abdul as part of the judging. She seems to have found her place and was comfortable and witty with the judges. At one point she started to imitate Bruno and I thought it was pretty good! She seemed like a natural to me.
First up was Kirstie & Maks who had the Charleston. It was cute and at one point, they are on the floor, Kirstie on top of Maks, acting like she was swimming across the stage. It was fun and light hearted, but of course, Kirstie is not in the league with the rest. Entertaining, but the bottom of the leader board.
Bristol follows Kirstie and you’d think she will end up making Kirstie look like a pro, but Bristol actually looked like she was into the dance and I have to say, not bad! She still isn’t as good as the rest but it was actually enjoyable to watch her dance. It’s clear who the pro is and who the star is. She lacks skill to her partner in an obvious way and that isn’t all that evident with other teams…but good for her. The judges say it was her best dance and I concur.
Sabrina came out looking like the monster from Monsters Inc with her blue-feathered coat. Others saw the Cookie Monster. I’m stickin’ with Monsters Inc. A great dance in full flavor of the disco era. Very enjoyable.
Emmitt followed with the Bolero which everyone seemed concerned with because he is a large man and has to do very slow movement, which could make him look awkward. I felt he did look awkward. But the judges didn’t ask me my opinion and he got the highest scores of the night to this point. I give him credit though. He doesn’t shy away from a challenge and has that killer smile.
Gilles KILLS IT in the Bollywood category. He was Aladdin to me and had all the great facial expressions that go with Bollywood dancing. He just knocked it out of the park and has the biggest reaction of the night thus far from the audience. Highest score of the night and will tie with another star at the end of the evening. The judges say he had one of the hardest dances of the night and I think it would be so hard to learn it as it is so extremely different from ballroom.
Melissa and her jitterbug was nicely done with one slight fumble. Melissa just strikes me as a totally likable person as does Tony. It would be nice to see Tony win the trophy at some point too. Maybe this is the year?!?
Shawn and her mambo are right up there with her performance of last week and then topped it. She is just so fast and snappy with her precision. She seems almost unbeatable.
Apolo channels In Living Color for me (am I dating myself?!). Karina slips and falls hard in the middle of their routine on Apolo’s mic pack, which fell off during the performance. She cries at the end and I really feel for them. Their scores are not great.
Kelly apparently broke a toe and has the hardest dance according to the judges. She brings the emotion and I think the dance is interesting but along with Emmitt’s, a little awkward. But again, she came out and did it and put her whole self into it.
The chit chat while waiting for judges to score are sometimes as uncomfortable as a Bravo housewives reunion, but Kelly, during her time filler/waster was the most eloquent speaker on why to do DWTS. I can’t begin to repeat it but she says it isn’t so much about the dance as it is about pushing yourself outside your comfort zone, making friends and connections and being in the moment. I’m here to tell you, if her and Val aren’t lovers yet, they are going to be! Whew. Did anyone else see that? I swear they are an item.
One thing I noticed is Maks, who is Val’s brother, was whistling like crazy in appreciation of Kelly and Val’s dance. Maks is sometimes criticized (and rightly so) for being pompous, but it was great seeming him support his brother.
I’m all schmaltz tonight!
Here are the scores for the dances based on 4 judges instead of 3, so the point total is 40 instead of 30:
- Kirstie & Maks: Charleston 30/40
- Bristol & Mark: Rock n Roll 32/40
- Sabrina & Louie: Jitterbug 35.5/40
- Emmitt & Cheryl: Bolero 36/40
- Gilles & Peta: Bollywood 39.5/40
- Melissa & Tony: Jitterbug 37/40
- Shawn & Derek: Mambo 39.5/40
- Apolo & Karina: Hip Hop 34.5/40
- Kelly & Val: Contemporary 37.5/40
The show tomorrow night sounds a little odd. Donny Osmond and Sharon Boyle are apparently going to do a duet. Hmm.
Week 5, the Stars will dance their Favorite Guilty Pleasure Songs and there will apparently be no elimination or results show next week.
Don’t forget, the elimination show this week is on an hour early!!!!
Last word goes to Jill Zarin – for being ever so amusing and bringing us all together. I very much missed Lynn Hudson last night.
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