Exclusive Interview with Heather Thomson of the Real Housewives of New York / Real Housewives of Miami / Project Runway All Stars / Couples Therapy

Exclusive Interview with Heather Thomson of the Real Housewives of New York by NoMoreDrama

Heather Thomson (photo courtesy Heather Thomson)

Heather Thomson (photo courtesy Heather Thomson)

Heather Thomson joined the Real Housewives of New York in Season Five of the show.

I really enjoyed interacting with Heather on twitter throughout the latter half of the season (when I finally got on twitter).  She seems like a down to earth, fun person both on-screen and off-screen, and quickly became one of my favorite housewives.

I was delighted when she agreed to the interview for Lynn’s Place since I know we’re all such avid viewers and fans of the Real Housewives of New York.

BB (our Real Housewives of New York blogger) and I came up with some questions for Heather.  Our interview with Heather is below:

NMD:      You’re a successful businesswoman in New York.  I’m sure you did your research before agreeing to be on the show.  I’m curious about why you agreed to be on the show and what you hoped to get out of the experience.

Heather:  Well at first I was somewhat hesitant about joining the cast, and my first reaction was that it was likely not a good fit for me. I spoke with the casting director about my concerns, but after talking thru the “why not’s”, he explained that I was part of a shift the show was interested in making and I was in fact the woman they were looking for to help achieve it.  I soon realized this was an exceptional opportunity before me, and that I was being presented with a rare and one off chance to speak about my business, Yummie by Heather Thomson and my brand message of uplifting women, and to bring awareness to the charity causes (pediatric liver disease and most pointedly organ donation) that are dear to me.  Furthermore, it was a very unique opportunity to shed light on and to represent a very different type of female New Yorker. Talking with the casting director gave me confidence that I could potentially achieve these goals and convinced me to throw my hat in the ring. 

NMD.      You came in after four cast New York cast members were fired in a very public manner, and after the Russell Armstrong suicide in Beverly Hills.  Did any of that give you second thoughts?

Heather: I really thought about every aspect of the show while making my decision, but in the end, the positives outweighed the negatives.

BB.      Do you get much grief from the public for saying your tagline “Holla?”

Heather:  At first people either loved it or hated it.  Some people didn’t know what it meant. So as the weeks starting rolling, and they learned more about me and my personality I think a large percentage started to really have fun with it.  I wrote a blog post and gave a breakdown of what it meant and how you would use it.  I received lots of fan appreciation and paraphernalia mailed to my office with “Holla” on it that will always remind me of my first season on the show. 

NMD:    At the beginning of the season you hosted an “away” trip to London where you invited everyone but Ramona Singer.  Under normal situations that would be understandable as you and Ramona were not getting along.  But this is Housewives and you’re all filming a show together, so you received a lot of negative feedback.  In hindsight, do you wish you had invited her but just kept business and fun separate?

Heather:  Ramona and I had a rocky start, and I decided that I didn’t want to carry our baggage on my trip.  The trip was primarily about business so I couldn’t risk something happening with Ramona while I was there; I needed to keep a clear head because I was in and out of meetings the whole time.  I had a great time with the girls during my free time, and I truly didn’t mean to make Ramona feel bad about it, I just needed to be focused.

NMD: You helped Sonja Morgan with her toaster oven box branding.  I really thought you got the short end of the stick on that one.  She seemed to expect you to read her mind, and instead of being pleased about all the free advertising she got for that darned toaster oven, continued to slam you – even through the reunion. How is your relationship with Sonja now?  What did you learn from that experience?

Heather:  That was definitely a frustrating experience because I didn’t feel that I was getting the credit the team and I deserved.  I signed on to the project with the mindset that I was a friend helping out another friend and offering my own professional advice.  But Sonja wasn’t on the same page.  I get it, this project was her baby, and I’ve been there having started my own business as well.  But I think there was a bit of entitlement, miscommunication and misunderstanding on her part.

NMD:  St. Barths.  Where to start?  How satisfying was it to push Ramona in the pool?  How is your relationship with her now?

Heather:  Ramona and I were in a great place on the trip (finally!), so pushing her in the pool was all in good fun!  And we’re still in a good place.

NMD:  You seemed to be the witness to some of the main Pirate Action with both LuAnn de Lesseps and Sonja Morgan. What is your opinion of the Pirate?  Hot? or Greasy?  Was he a prize or consolation prize?

Heather:  Well he isn’t exactly my type, but I get what the girls saw in him.  They were on vacation and wanted to escape and have a little fun. 

BB:  Other than Carole, do you keep in touch with any of the New York housewives outside of filming?

Heather:  Yes, I keep in touch with the ladies.  We all chat and see each other occasionally.  I do see Carole the most, as we have similar personalities and it’s just so easy to be around her.

BB:  Hindsight being 20/20, would you change anything you said or did last season?

Heather:  No, I don’t waste time with regrets.  I feel that I left the season on a good note with all the girls.  I always say, “It’s only a mistake if you make it twice.”

BB:  What are you looking forward to most if you return next season?

Heather:  Seeing everything that unfolds!  It’s all so unpredictable.

NMD & BB: Are you working on any business endeavors other than Yummie Tummie?  What’s next for Heather Thomson?

Heather:  Right now I’m putting my focus on Yummie Tummie, as we’re constantly evolving the collection and developing new and innovative classifications.  I’m also putting a lot of energy into my charitable causes, specifically pediatric liver disease and organ donation.  Having personally experienced the effects of these organizations, it’s something that I’m very passionate about.

Thank you Heather!  – NMD

(PS – I did ask Heather some questions about how she felt about what JZ said about her on WWHL – and she chose not to answer them.  I thought I’d give it a shot 🙂  NMD )

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Exclusive Interview with Lauren Foster

Yesterday we published an Exclusive Interview with Lauren Foster – The First Transgender Woman on the Real Housewives Franchise.  Lauren gave two interviews to bloggers – Lynn’s Place and The Bravo Bitch (in our blog roll – great site!).  These interviews not only gave us a little inside information on Real Housewives of Miami, but also raised awareness of LGBT issues – and were supported by GLADD.  If you didn’t get a chance to read the Lynn’s Place interview, you can find it here.

I was asked to publish the piece right after the show aired at the specific request of GLADD President Herndon Graddick, who gave this quote for the piece:

“Lauren is a beautiful, passionate and smart woman who has not only helped our organization, but our entire community,” said GLAAD President Herndon Graddick. “Bravo has long had its pulse on pop culture and we hope to see more of Lauren on their Real Housewives franchise. We think it would be a powerful decision for them to include her and represent all women, including those who are transgender.”   

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Gossip and Other News by NoMoreDrama

Things must be tough at Bravo, because they’re putting Patti Stranger back on the network.  I had pretty much forgotten about her, but she’s baaaack in January with Millionaire Matchmaker.  Let’s see if she can raise her percentage of matches up from 0 percent this season.

Here’s some news.  Joanna Krupa and Romain Zago are back together.  I suppose they’ll break up again next week to get in the news again.

Alexis Bellino didn’t go to Tamra Barney‘s bachelorette party, but at least Vicki Gunvalson seems to be on-camera friends with her.  Vicki tweeted this a few days ago:

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The Real Housewives of Miami “Parents Fly South” Recap by Krissy S

RJ’s Star Island Birthday Party

“My Dad said this place is only for parties, so you can wreck it.” – RJ Black (Lea’s son)

Lisa arrives at Lea’s Star Island home to celebrate RJ’s 11th birthday and is rather underwhelmed by the house. Lea feels sorry for Lisa arriving to the party early because, according to Lea, everyone in Miami is late. Adriana, Alexia, James/Elaine, and Lisa Pliner are also invited to the birthday party. They discuss the drama that went down with James/Elaine and Marysol at Lisa Pliner’s shoe launch party. Lisa P. throws Marysol under the bus saying that Marysol was out to hurt her and James/Elaine. Lea is over it and tells them to leave it alone.

Ana Is Still Pissed About Thomas Kramer

“Better to forgive and forget.” – Kati Quincoces (Ana’s daughter)

Ana is sitting down with her daughters Beba and Kati to discuss the dinner party at Thomas Kramer’s home. She is still upset that Marysol did not defend her when Kramer was yelling at her. Although Marysol did come outside to comfort her, Ana believes that it wasn’t enough given how many times she has stepped in to fight for Marysol. She has decided that she will no longer defend Marysol and will leave her to fight her own battles.

Lisa Welcomes Lenny’s Parents

“We would love to see our grandchildren.” – Marina (Lenny’s mother)

“The sooner, the better” – Anatoly (Lenny’s father)

Lisa is freaking out because Lenny is still at work and his parents are about to arrive at their home. According to Lisa, Lenny’s mother Marina is over involved in their lives and even has a key to their house. She is controlling and demanding, pressuring Lisa to get pregnant. Knowing that Lisa has had three miscarriages, that has got to be terribly upsetting. Marina and Anatoly (Lenny’s father) let themselves in and Lisa and Daysy greet them in the foyer. Lisa is visibly irritated when Marina tells Daysy that she loves her, but doesn’t say the same to Lisa. Ouch. After inspecting the kitchen and refrigerator, Marina does not seem pleased when Lisa tells her that they will be going out for dinner instead of cooking it herself.

Marysol and James and the Sit-down

“I’m somewhere between Mother Theresa and Mother Pucker.” James/Elaine

Marysol informs her employee that James/Elaine will be coming to the office to finally discuss their issues with each other. Marysol reveals that she blames Lea 100% for the bad blood between herself and James/Elaine. Armed with his Gucci notepad and (rather impressive) décolletage, James/Elaine comes in dressed in full military inspired drag. Marysol tells him that she really likes James, but that when he transforms into Elaine, he is ‘bitchy.’ Marysol apologizes for all of their miscommunication and they agree that there needs to be more honesty going forward. James/Elaine then demands that Marysol confess to being ‘out to get him’ and Marysol does admit that she was trying to avoid him. She apologizes again and tells him that she wants to move forward. In the voiceover, Marysol says that she doesn’t know what she is apologizing for and that she is just doing it to smooth things over with James/Elaine. She still believes that Lea is the puppet master behind James/Elaine’s negativity towards her.

Lisa Gets Acupuncture for Fertility

“Not being able to start a family when you’re ready to is devastating.” – Lisa

Lisa is going to an acupuncturist with the hope that it will help her carry a baby to term. Her friend Carrie is there with her for moral support. Lisa says that part of the reason she and Lenny got married was to start a family and her inability to have a baby is causing problems and could ultimately lead to their marriage ending. The doctor comes in and Lisa is panicked about the needles. She is reassured by the doctor that, although she may be able to feel the needles, they will not hurt. Lisa relaxes into the treatment. She laments how devastating it has been not to be able to carry her three pregnancies to term and that she feels her life is on hold until she can have a child.

Karent and Rodolfo Have a Chat

“You can’t create a baby through the internet.” – Karent

Rodolfo is flirting with Karent’s secretary when Karent runs in, grabs him, and pulls him into the treatment room for a surprise dental cleaning. He is looking up at her with terror in his eyes as she tells him about Lisa’s fertility struggles and how she is thinking about having babies. His mouth full of power tools, Rodolfo listens to Karent tell how her gynecologist said that it is better to freeze an embryo than an egg. She starts to cry and Rodolfo pulls her in for a kiss. She wants to know how Rodolfo feels about having children with her. He says that he is not in the place to have kids right now because of his traveling for work. If Karent is really serious about wanting to get married and have children, I think that she is barking up the wrong tree.

Joanna Gives Rodolfo the Third Degree

“She is very jealous because of the whole business, because you always have girls around…the fun part.” – Rodolfo

Joanna has planned a triple date with Lisa and Lenny and Karent and Rodolfo to try to find out what Rodolfo’s true intentions are with Karent. Joanna and Lisa start in immediately, questioning Rodolfo on how he feels to be home with Karent, how long they have been together, if they are engaged. Joanna is worried that Rodolfo might just be in the relationship for a good time, while Karent want a serious commitment with marriage and children. The ladies get up to ‘powder their noses’ leaving Lenny and Romain to dig deeper with Rodolfo. They question him about his relationships with his female costars in the soap opera and if he brings work home with him. He says although it is not easy, he separates work and romance. They ask him why he would get married being able to have so many women with his job and he says that he believes in family. Apparently when he and Karent broke up for a while, he got engaged to another woman, but it didn’t work out. Romain tells him that it would make Karent feel more secure in the relationship if she and Rodolfo were married. They ladies return and they toast to having fun with the right group of people.

Adriana Celebrates Frederic’s Parents’ 50th Anniversary

“Seriously, how can people be together for fifty years?!” – Adriana

Adriana and her son Alex arrive home to Frederic and his parents, Suzanne and Jean Pierre, who are visiting from Paris to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary. Suzanne talks about her own parents’ 50th anniversary party in a castle in France. Adriana tells her that, although it will not be in a castle, she is planning to throw them a lovely party to celebrate their anniversary. Suzanne has the perfect dress from her friend Christian Dior to wear to the party. Adriana asks Jean Pierre how he knew Suzanne was ‘the one’ for him and he says that she had all of the qualities he was looking for in a woman. They met at a screening of a movie that Jean Pierre was making with Jacques Cousteau. In her talking head interview, Adriana says that she loves Frederic and that he is a great guy, but she still has trust issues and is always holding back in fear that her heart will get broken.

Joanna and Her Mom Discuss Romain

“Baby, you’re so lucky – three Krupas!” – Joanna

Joanna and Romain are cuddled up in bed together when they decide to bust in on Marta and her mom Jolanta who are still sleeping. Marta is irritated (shocking) but Jolanta seems amused by their playfulness. Jolanta is in town from Los Angeles to keep Marta company while Joanna goes to the Bahamas with the girls.

Marta and Romain go out for coffee while Joanna and Jolanta make breakfast and chat. Joanna tells her that she has been putting more effort into cooking and taking care of the home after her big talk with Romain. Once she realized that she could lose him, she wanted to do what she could to make sure that doesn’t happen. Jolanta tells Joanna that she needs to stop drinking too because she is evil when she drinks. Joanna agrees. She asks Jolanta what she thinks about her marrying Romain, especially since they fight a lot like her mother and father used to. When they moved to the United Statesfrom Poland, her father was mostly absent and she had to take on a lot of the responsibilities. In tears, Jolanta tells Joanna that Joanna should not have had to take care of her and Marta and that she should have been able to have a real childhood. Joanna is worried that Romain has not set a wedding date and questions if they are really right for each other.

Lisa Hosts a Passover Seder

“Everyone has the same problem, so that is why the world is falling apart.” – Mama Elsa

Lisa is hosting a Passover Seder in honor of Marina and Anatoly. The dinner guests include, Mama Elsa and Marysol, Joanna, Romain, Marta, and Jolanta, Karent and Lucero, and Lea. The mothers are left alone together and start talking politics…awkward. Everybody sits down to dinner and Lisa makes a toast to the United States of America and the opportunities they have all had as immigrants.

The Obligatory Mid-Commercial Fake Out

“If you follow all my advice, you’ll be perfect.” Marina to Lisa

Lisa and Marina are in the kitchen making matzo ball soup. Marina is critical of everything that Lisa is doing from making a mess in the kitchen to not having enough fresh flowers. Lisa says that Marina is not easy to please and that seems like the understatement of the century.

Ana and Robert Are At It Again

“You look like Rico Suave.” – Ana

“I feel like Rico Suave.” – Robert

Robert lets himself in to Ana’s house to drop off some checks and she seems shocked that he came in unannounced. She has his laundry ready for him and asks him when his ‘little girlfriend’ is going to start doing his laundry. Ana then makes fun of his hair calling him Rico Suave and telling him that his clients are not going to respect him. Robert tells her that she is just jealous. In the voiceover, Ana says that they do love each other, but that it is not the type of love that a married couple should have to stay in a relationship. Ana tells Robert that she wants to meet his girlfriend. He said that his girlfriend is open to the idea of meeting her, but that he doesn’t want her to. Ana tries to reassure him that she will be nice to his girlfriend. She asks him if he will get married again and he says yes and he then asks her why their divorce isn’t final yet.

Adriana Throws a 50th Anniversary Party

“Fifty years of marriage…if you’ve been married that long you deserve a medal.” – Adriana

Adriana is overseeing what has to be one of the most beautifully decorated dinner parties I have ever seen. The flower centerpieces…swoon! She is preparing for the celebration of Frederic’s parents’ 50th wedding anniversary. As Frederic is dressing for dinner, he tells Adriana that when they marry, he wants to celebrate fifty hours of marriage, fifty days of marriage, fifty months of marriage …swoon!

The guests begin arrive and among them is Thomas Kramer. He and Lea have a laugh over the disaster that was Karent’s dinner party. Adriana asks everyone to take their seats and she toasts to Suzanne and Jean Pierre and their 50th wedding anniversary. Lea and Alexia ask Adriana and Frederic when they plan on getting married. Alexia says that Frederic has had a great example set by his parents. It has passed into evening when three drummers come in followed by Adriana dancing in a gigantic feathered costume. She dances for the dinner guests in a sequined leotard and feathered headdress. Frederic gets up to join her followed by the rest of the guests who make a conga line. Adriana says that she knows Frederic will be a wonderful husband, but she needs to make peace with her own demons before she can completely open up to his love.

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Project Runway All Stars “You’ve Got Male” by BB

Recap of Winners and Losers:

  • Challenge 1 (Anthony Ryan wins, Peach goes home);
  • Challenge 2 (Uli wins, Wendy goes home);
  • Challenge 3 (Emilio wins, Suede goes home);
  • Challenge 4 (Anthony Ryan wins, Andrae goes home).

Anthony Ryan is the only designer with two wins.

This challenge theme is a fashion-forward trend, androgyny, which means it can be worn by a male or female.  Their design should include masculine and feminine characteristics.  They also need for it to be avant garde.  They have $150.00 to shop at Mood and one day to create their design.

Before they go to Mood, the designers are trying to figure out what would have masculine details but would look good on their female models.  This challenge has thrown Uli for a loop because she usually designs very feminine pieces.  Kane is going to try to make something very structured and he hopes he’s not trying to do too much.

Georgina pays a visit to the workroom.  They aren’t used to seeing her there.  She’s explains there is a bit of a twist to this challenge.  She brings in male models. The designers are in a total panic and Emilio says he feels completely screwed.  Georgina also tells them they will be creating two looks, one for a female and one for a male model.  They get another day and another trip to Mood.  The male and female models will be walking down the runway in pairs.  I’m surprised some of the clothes fit the male models when they were originally designed for the female models.  I guess male models are pretty thin also although I never noticed that before.  Uli is the only designer who seems totally lost and panicked at this point.

Later the girls come for their fittings.  Emilio doesn’t see much Androgyny going on when he looks around the room.

Day two starts out with the second trip to Mood.  Emilio cannot find enough of the fabric he wants for his male look.  After mood, they have 11 hours left.  Uli has to change her female look because her male model will be wearing her female’s pants.  Josh is also switching up his looks.  What he has made for his female model will now be used for his male model.  Casanova says his look is very ambitious because it’s All Stars.  Laura Kathleen worries that her look may not be ambitious enough.

Joanna comes into the work room and tells them the judges were a little disappointed in the last challenge and they need to really step it up this week.  She loves the detail of Uli’s design.  Uli tells Joanna there’s not much ball room in her male’s pants.  Joanna does a double take when she says it.  She tells Anthony Ryan not to play it safe but to be careful with the black and yellow and make sure it doesn’t look like a wasp.

She tells Emilio she can’t tell if his look is for the man or woman. Emilio says that’s a good thing.  She thinks it looks spectacularly put together.  Anthony thinks you could put Casanova’s design and put it on a gladiator set and it would fit right in.  Joanna tells Kane his will either be hideous or great.  When Joanna leaves, she tells them just when they think they can’t go any further, go even further.   The female models come in for their final fittings.  Casanova hates the pants he had made and thinks they are hideous looking.  He has no extra fabric to make more.  Ivy goes over to help him out and tells him he can fix it.  Next the guys come in for their fittings.  Kane has his model try on heels, but I don’t think he will be using them for the runway show.  Time is up for the second day.

On runway day, the designers have two hours to finish their two looks and get their models ready for the runway. Ivy and Casanova are working together which annoys Laura Kathleen.  Anthony Ryan points out that at some point their being joined at the hip is not going to work because there can’t be two winners.  Emilio thinks Casanova’s craftsmanship is amazing, but the androgyny is not there.  Josh is seeing the other designers doing things they’ve done in previous Project Runway seasons, and he feels he’s evolved more than the others.  Kayne feels safe after he looks at some of the other designers’ outlandish looks.

The guest judges are designers Jason Wu and Robert Rodriguez.  Of course Georgina, Isaac and Carolyn are the regular judges.  Let’s get this party started.

Joshua’s two models are wearing black and white looks, the girl wearing shorts and the guy wearing long pants.  They look good together.  Uli’s models are wearing mostly black.  Her male model’s top is see-through.    Laura Kathleen’s is also black and I’m not sure her I like her models together.  I love Emilio’s designs.  You almost cannot tell who the male and female models are.  They are definitely androgynous.  Kayne has a hounds tooth look.  His female model is wearing a bright yellow top under a jacket with a ruffled collar. Casanova’s models are in gold and look great, but I’m not sure how androgynous they are.  Anthony Ryan likes his male’s look but thinks the female could use a little more volume.  I’m not crazy about Andrea’s heavy robe look on her models. Ivys, Joshua, and Andrea are called out and safe.  Joshua goes off on Ivy because he’s frustrated about being safe and not in the top three and Ivy seems OK with it. He thinks Ivy should already be out of the competition.

Uli is up first.  Isaac loves the safety pins on the front of the female’s shirt.  The judges like her look, but Georgina doesn’t like the leggings on the female model.  Laura Kathleen is next and Isaac thinks the textiles look inexpensive.  The judges do not like it and think it needed to be edited.  Georgina likes Emilio’s attention to detail.  Jason Wu thinks it’s what androgyny looks like.  Isaac wonders if he relied too heavily on the hats for the models.  Isaac thinks Kayne’s use of the yellow shirt looks inexpensive and they also think Kayne needed to edit himself.  Georgina likes Casanova’s but they don’t look very androgynous.  Jason Wu agrees.  Isaac tells Anthony Ryan he’s so good every week.  Georgina is happy he didn’t do a dress.  Jason Wu thinks it looks expensive.  So Emilio, Uli and Anthony Ryan are in the top and Laura Kathleen, Kayne and Casanova are in the bottom three.

The judges loved that Uli really pushed it this week, think Emilio totally got the androgynous look, and loved Anthony Ryan’s expensive looking textures.  They thought Laura Kathleen had good ideas, but she overdid it.  Georgina thought everything she did was wrong.  Isaac thought the color of Kayne’s female model’s top was atrocious.  Georgina likes his male model but wonders if he knows how to design for a female.  Robert’s least favorite was Casanova’s.  Georgina thinks he misinterpreted the idea of avant garde.  The decisions have been made.

Anthony Ryan is deemed safe and Emilio is declared the winner.  He was definitely my choice.  Uli is congratulated for her work and leaves the runway.  Casanova is safe and gets to leave the runway.  Carolyn tells Kayne he needs to edit, edit, edit and Laura Kathleen she needs to play to her strengths.  Laura Kathleen is safe and Kayne is eliminated.

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Couple’s Therapy – The pointless episode by Mr and Mrs Lulu

Her Blog

Opens to another meeting with Courtney and her f’d up mother.  The saying the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree comes to mind.  Dr Jen is still trying to determine why Courtney dresses like a whore and behaves like a 12 year old.  Any answers to anything deep is lost between dumb and dumber.  I can’t tell who is the mother and who is the teenager.  From this meeting we learn two things A: Courtney has a promising career in the porn industry.  B:  looking at the mother explains why Courtney is the girl that she is.

Jojo and Tiny

Jojo attends his first AA meeting.  We finally see some hope for this couple.

Doug’s Mother

Doug was ostracized by his family for marrying Courtney.  He reaches out to his mother.  For once she is listening and is open to meeting Courtney. Big mistake!  That is like trying to seal a wound with acid.  Until Courtney grows up not a good idea.

Final Group

Dr Jen opens with “this is the end speech.”  Of which everyone validates Dr Jen as a therapist.  Lots of “Oh thank you!” “you saved me!”  I’m not buying it at all.  I have zero confidence in Dr Jen’s ability to counsel a human.  Well maybe to a dog she would be great.  The most laughable “I am cured” speech was from Courtney.  Apparently she walked into the house as a girl and now is a woman?!?!?!  Ummm yeah I’m not buying it I question her ability to understand what was being told to her.

Nik and Shayne’s fake wedding

I think the producers saw that Dorkey was ruining the show.  So like most reality series let’s do a wedding!  But everything from the “will you marry me” proposal to the reaffirmation was scripted.  You can’t tell me that this couple all of a sudden forget they had real issues.  Bad attempt at a ratings boost.  Overall this episode was a pointless filler.  Not sad to see the end!

Depending on who is on the next if there is one Mr Lulu and I will consider blogging it!

His Blog

…. So this was it…?

I remember when I had a job working third shift overnight, and how I’d be up early afternoon. And I fell into this weird need to watch ‘Days of Our Lives.’ It was right around the time that Marlena ‘I’m Conceited’ Evans and John ‘Crazy Eyebrows School of Acting’ Black were married, and they went off on their honeymoon leaving their daughter Bell behind whom was like four. So Marlena and John come back after like a month long honeymoon, and suddenly their daughter Bell is seventeen and played by another actress. It made no sense, it still makes no sense…. It hurts my brain now even thinking about it.

That was my similar reaction to the season finale of Couples Therapy. I almost started shouting at the television, ‘This is just like that BS where Bell Black aged twelve years over a long weekend.’ But I held that in, as no one would understand what the Hell I was ranting about, and my wife gets very annoyed in general when I start shouting at the television like it can hear me.

It just seemed like ‘Kitchen Sink’ editing ruled here, of a soap opera nature, hence the Days of Our Lives reference. As a series that frames itself on a fine dining experience with the intimacy and sensitivity of stepping into a at risk relationship, this was like being stuck with no reservations and having to get drive thru. And coming away with heart burn as a result.

Courtney and her Mom… 

Yeap, they are screwed up. But not a lot of substance came out of this segment. All I really came away with is that Doctor Jenn does awesome dramatic staring when she continually glances between two people who are talking crazy.

Jojo and Tiny,

I so wish these two the best. And was uplifted hearing him, with her at his side, took those first steps and attend that AA meeting. I’m happy to see, and least from as far as I know, that my initial feeling of Jojo being at the point of a hopeless alcoholic who would drink himself to death was perhaps to hasty. God bless them both.

Doug’s Mom..

Well, it was nice to see Doug able to re-start having a dialogue with his mom again.

Final Group,

Just, from the editing, felt very contrived. It was like one of those horrible ‘Brat Pack’ melodrama movies from the eighties, where all the emotional conflicts get resolved and everybody grows a little and moves on in life. I’m surprised some song from Night Ranger didn’t start playing in the background as I watched it wrapping up.

Sha’Nik’s Wedding,

… And talk about contrived endings.

Why, why was it my favorite couple on the show that did this? Or more so were talked into doing this by the producers? Honestly, they looked great, and I don’t wanna critique it, because as I have said the kitchen sink editing of this episode killed a lot of what I like about the show, especially here.

In the end?

What I have learned from watching this show is one thing. Despite all the difficulties, challenges, and the very harsh personal set backs I have experienced this year due to losing my career like so many others in our nation, I am so blessed by God to have a wife like mine whom lifts me up through all this. A woman whom supports me, loves me, and gives me the unfathomable joy to be the father of her children. I owe, and adore her so much. And I am all to reminded of it as I watched these other people, like myself, trying to help themselves be a better person for another, simply because they love them so much they cannot help but do it. It was very enjoyable (well besides the editing, and Dourtney) to watch and spend time with these amazing couples, while watching with the woman I love.

Wow – what a sweet way to end the season (and I’m talking about Mr. Lulu’s blog – not the show).  I want to thank both of you for finding such an interesting way to blog this show.  NMD

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Friday Night Lineup November 30th by BB

8PM – Undercover Boss (CBS); Nikita (CW); Last Man Standing/Malibu Country (ABC); Gold Rush (Discovery); WWE Friday Night Smackdown (SYFY); Family Guns (NatGeo); Facing Evil (ID)

9PM – CSI NY (CBS); Flea Market Flip (HGTV); Say Yes to the Dress: Bridesmaids (TLC); Gold Rush (Discovery); Monsters Inside Me (Anpl); Killer Karaoke (truTV); Ghost Adventures (Trvl); Deadly Women (ID); My Ghost Story: Caught on Camera (Biography)

10PM – Blue Bloods (CBS); Dateline NBC (NBC); The Ultimate Fighter (FX); Brides of Beverly Hills (TLC); Jungle Gold (Discovery); Haven (SYFY); Fashion Police (E!); Raised Wild (Anpl); The Dead Files (Trvl); Health Inspectors (Food 10:30); Wives with Knives (ID); Haunted Encounters: Face to Face (Biography); Man Caves (DIY); Man v. Monster (NatGeoWild)

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Just a housewife ... who loves this place .... and loves to write ... You can reach me through this email: nomoredrama8@gmail.com. Lynn's Place is in tribute to Housewives blogger Lynn Hudson, who passed away in August of 2012.
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338 Responses to Exclusive Interview with Heather Thomson of the Real Housewives of New York / Real Housewives of Miami / Project Runway All Stars / Couples Therapy

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It’s Freedom Friday, TGIF!!! I hope it’s a good start to your weekend. 🙂

    • TexasTart says:

      Good morning, Powell, always fine finding you here 🙂
      Hey,about Viggle; they gave 239 points for the Today show….and I probably only watched for 30 minutes. Who knew the points were so high for that.

      • Powell says:

        I know Texas Tart. I love Viggle. I sometimes don’t watch the entire epi of a show either. Love getting those pts. Have you played the games during shows to earn pts? If I haven’t seen a show in a while I nay only get a few answers right. The games are fun.

        • TexasTart says:

          I did, once so far, during E! Fashion Police. It was all trivia questions about people on the show and past shows and actually I was surprised I knew all the answers…started to make me question why I can not remember important things at times, but to knew all of those insignificant things!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Good Morning, Powlie-poo!!!

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Good Morning, Powell!

    • Heatherfan13 says:

      Great interview with Heather Thomson, she is my all time favorite housewife. She has made the RHONY more enjoyable to watch. She is a positive role model for all women of any age. HOLLA!

  2. TexasTart says:

    WooHoo! A Heather Thompson interview, good catch! I can’t wait to read!

  3. Noelle says:

    Good morning Powell, I love and envy your energetic start to the day! 😉

  4. trudie says:

    NMD, you are on fire! Thanks for the exclusives and all you do to keep the family together.

    BB, great recap. Emilio’s looks were amazing.

    Mr. Lulu, you made me tear up!

  5. T-Rex says:

    Where to start the blogs today were Amaze-balls. Getting 2 exclusives, the great recap for Runway and what a sweet tribute to Mrs. Lulu from Mr. Lulu, WOW! And Kudos to the Lulu Family for wasting their precious time and brain cells to watch that atrocity of a show.

  6. Noelle says:

    Bringing this over from chat:

    Off-Topic…
    I’m not here everyday, can’t help but notice some valuable contributors are MIA:
    Ad girl
    OMIB
    Baa baa loves kitties
    HD (part time living in your hood! I LOVE it! Peeps r so nice!)
    Kat
    Dark Sonnet
    Fire n Ice
    MamaZ
    LovesMamaEarth…gurl…where r you??
    I miss ‘youes guys!!’ 😦

    I guess I’m feeling melancholy addressing Christmas cards.

    I miss you Lynn. xoxo

    Happy Friday everyone.

    • T-Rex says:

      Yeah and missing FLTigre and Error404 has been missing for a LONG time.

      • Noelle says:

        I know, I miss them too.
        So many I’ve missed, FLG and Error!! Oh jeez, sorry…only named those I could think of in the moment.
        So many more too!

        • lovemamaearth says:

          Thanks for the shout out Noelle. I miss Lynn too and like thinking like Orson that she was promoted.

          I think Error started a company. FLG was doing ok last I heard from him. I think he’s pretty busy and I don’t mean to sound like we’re besties. Cusi might know more. We don’t hear enough from Cusi either.

          ((( Bloggers )))

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I was just wondering day before yesterday where OMIB, MamaZ, LuvMyGals and Lovemamaearth have been lately.

    • so many that I remember too & miss a lot. Real Minky, TLM, PChick (emt in Pittsburgh, Jamie 🙂 If they are reading, miss youse guys.

    • Powell says:

      Noelle MamaZ and Kat post maybe once/twice a week or so but I haven’t seen the others either. I miss them.

    • lillybee says:

      I remember BaaBee loves kitties flounced. She left because she got mad at another poster.

    • Kat from Ohio says:

      i’m not sure if this “Kat” refers to me or another user with a similar name. If so, I’m fine, just suffering through end-of-semester/grad school application stress, so i’ve been out of commission.

      if this isn’t me, disregard and carry on!

  7. Good Happy Friday! So much great stuff in the blog today! Again!

    NMD – your rock star status is growing to enormous proportions! I think they need to put you on the cover of Rolling Stone! LOL! Great job getting the interviews.

    BB- thanks for the Project Runway recap. I fell asleep 5 mins into the show as I was battling the onset of flu symptoms yesterday. (Better today!) But, I went to the website to look at the fashions and I didn’t really like most of them. Sometimes when they try to “push it” they go off the edge! Anyway, I knew Kayne would be going soon, so no surprise there. Thanks for your perspective!

    KrissyS – great Miami recap. Don’t watch but keep informed with your posts.

    LuLu & Hubs – you guys really took a bullet for watching this nonsense and blogging about it. What a waste of tv time and dollars! It sounds like they just gave up at the end because they knew it was trash and threw the finale together. They should not bring the show back unless they decide to put some integrity into it. Have to say, Mr. LuLu made me laugh that he would admit to watching Days of Our Lives…and the reference to Night Ranger…ahhh, high school memories. LOL! LuLu….your “the apple does not fall far from the tree” assessment (about Courtney) is spot on. I totally agree. I saw pics of her and her mother together and there was something not right about the way mom held her. Just. something. so. off. Nuff said. Thanks to you both for your efforts!

    I hope everyone’s Friday is great and leads the way to a great weekend!

    Easy day at my place as I was fighting the flu. Hugs!
    http://fromthedeskofmardrag.wordpress.com/

  8. T-Rex says:

    Flu Status Updates – Since a large number of the posters the past few days have the flu, giving my update, oh and my thanks to everyone for their well wishes for a speedy recovery. I am back to work, door closed I think the office filled one of those misters with Lysol outside my door(j/k but if they could they would), no more fever, stilll coughing and a bit achy, but I could not stand being in the house another minute. Got in a hot shower before work, stripped the bedding this morning, placed on the hottest setting and added bleach to the laundry, hubby will place in the hot dryer when he gets home. Hope everyone is getting better too!

    • hi T-Rex, don’t forget your toothbrush. Use alcohol or mouth wash, even salt & hot water will do the trick. Or just get a new one. I gargle every day with Listerine or salt water, to zap those germs. Glad you’re feeling better.

      Still remember years ago when everyone in the lab got the flu except me – because I didn’t touch the plate with the Christmas cookies! I had already been so sick from the stomach flu before, I knew not to touch it. The first thing I do is wash my hands, after coming in the door. Years ago I was sick all the time when my son was a toddler, so got used to the hand washing. Fresh fruit like oranges or fresh lemon juice also help you stay healthy. Working in an office is likely the number one reason people get sick. Just touching a door handle will transfer lots of germs!

      • T-Rex says:

        BlueSky first thing I did this morning was dump my Tbrush in a cup of Listerine, and had hand sanitizer at the ready as I walked in the door, wiped down my keyboard, mouse, door handles etc. with Lysol wipes. No need to get anyone else in the office sick or have a relapse. Oh and note to office folks Wipe Down the Fax Machines and any Public Printers. Yes some offices still have a fax machine and folks forget that this is just a germ magnet. Ours got a nice cleaning this morning!

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I’m glad you’re getting better, T-Rex.

  9. plainviewsue says:

    Congrats NMD on your great interview w/Heather. I really enjoy her & hope so much that she returns next season!

  10. Noelle says:

    @T-Rex,
    Happy to hear your on the mend.
    The flu-strain going on now is a nasty Beyotch.
    The mild weather isn’t helping either.

  11. lovemamaearth says:

    Lulu and DH so glad so read your recaps. I agree with 99.9% of what you said. I’m not sure I could watch another season of Dr Jen. Depending on who was on & if you did recap it I guess.

    I wonder if Courtney will have a fight with her mom and come out with a book “Why I Became a Teen Slut”. or line of dildos.

    Mr Lulu what a sweet ending to your recap and I agree that Lulu is a sweetheart. I’m sorry for the career situation. My DS is experiencing something similar. We need to shop and bank locally.

    Bluesky it’s great to see you again as some were worried about you. Healing thoughts to those who have the flu. To those who don’t, don’t rub your eyes. Nose and mouth both have some defenses but eyes are imports to whatever.

    Happy holidays everyone. ❤ ᵔᴥᵔ ❤

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    • lovemamaearth says:

      NMD kudos on the interviews you’ve gotten. Great job. I liked Heather too and was impressed she wasn’t a drama queen over her broke nose. She laughed when it must have been hurting like hades.

    • Noelle says:

      Nice to hear from you.
      Okay then…off to do chores that I’ve been avoiding.
      Have a beautiful day.

    • Hi Lovemamaearth! I’ve been posting once in awhile, it took awhile to get back in the groove. We’re so lucky, so many lost everything, it’s so sad. I read in a local paper about an older guy, maybe in his 60s that lived about a block from the bay in Union Beach (town just next to us). He saw the water rising, got into his wet suit, grabbed his boogie board, and swam out the living room window. It took him 2 hours to go just 2 blocks. He heard his neighbors screaming from the roof of their house as it floated by, but could do nothing. Shocking story. Once he got to some dry land, he knocked on a door, got warmed up, and then went back out to his car which was parked on higher ground. He was really worried about the people on their roof tops, who were all rescued by fire fighters in boats that night. Without all the brave fire fighters, police, and first responders many more people would have died. The fellow in the article stated he was done, his wife and family are moving. People living near the bay never expected the storm surge to be so high. It’s a miracle that most of them survived the flood waters.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      There you ARE, LME! I’d been wondering where you’d been because I haven’t seen you on the blog since Thanksgiving Day! Glad to see you back! 😀

      Funny comment about Courtney and her Mom. I think they’re both STONE COLD CRAZY!

      • Powell says:

        Mom Courtney denies anything went wrong in Courtney’s childhood therefore the only thing I can think of is that something happened in Mom Courtney’s childhood and what happened in her married home seems normal.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          That’s possible, Powell. Something definitely went wrong SOMEWHERE along the line because Courtney and her Mother are a little (or a LOT) “touched” in the head.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        Hi Noelle, Blue, Detox, All of youse!!! 🙂
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  12. I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

    Congratulations, NMD, for scoring an interview with Heather Thomson! Just like your interview with Lauren Foster, this one was also VERY good with very good and thoughtful questions. I took my time to form an opinion on Heather, and my final opinion, as of now, is that I REALLY like her. I hope she comes back next season.

    Great RHOM blog, Krissy! I like the way you have titles for each of the different segments of the show. I wish I would have thought of that.

    BTW, NMD, I am slowly but surely working on the BBW-L.A. blog for this past Monday’s episode. My Mom’s Notebook is very S-L-O-W, and I just haven’t been able to make it to the library this week. But, by the grace of God, you WILL get that blog! I’m hoping I can get it to you to post this weekend. And I’m hoping that I can get a blog to you for next week’s episode much sooner than the one I’m working on for the last episode.

    I don’t watch “Project Runway,” but I’m sure, as USUAL, you did a great job, BB.

    Mr. & Mrs. Lulu, you guys also wrote great blogs. I agree with what you guys said about the last episode of “Couples Therapy.” It did seem a bit thrown together and corny. Lulu, the last paragraph of your husband’s portion of the blog made me saw, “Awwwww…..” He sounds like he loves you SOOOO much. He also sounds like he really appreciates you too. You are a very lucky woman.

    And he is a very lucky man. I love you guys’ love. *Sigh*

    • Noelle says:

      Youes one fricking funny gurl!!!
      Yes, I’m really off to scrub floors…..I. Am…really!! NOW!.. right now….going….

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        😀

      • Noelle says:

        Let me break away from my mop to clarify:

        1) You, Detox, being funny is not exclusive to this post.(In fact, wasn’t really responding to this post but responding in general to your past posts….especially loved the Teresa post…and your power points…LOLOLOL)

        2) I enjoy your posts and am glad you’re back.

        3) Halle is dangerous. 😉 fer realzzzz

        Back to my favorite sponge/mop. Carry on…

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          Thanks, Noelle! 😉

          I hope all of your floors are now sparkling and so clean that you could eat off of them if you wanted to do so. 😀

    • Krissy S says:

      Golly! Thank you, Detox! I am loving this season of RHMiami and it is really fun to write the recaps! I blame my format on too much time in grad school 🙂

  13. eve says:

    Did anybody notice that Karent did not wear gloves when doing the cleaning. Disgusting!

  14. Powell says:

    Mr & Mrs LuLu can I say LOL, LOL, LOL?!?! You two are so dag on funny w/this epis blog. I’m just laughing to myself. 😀 First VH-1 did a Bravo on us because I thought it was going to be 2short and Monica, is that her name, getting married. 2nd Mr LuLu w/your DOOLs reminiscing. I’ve never really watched that soap but it doesn’t matter because if you’re a soap fan as I am you still kind of know characters on all the soaps so I do know the characters Marlena & John. I was just picturing his eyebrows as you were describing him and my friend you are spot on. 🙂 The baby age 4mths then a teen is so funny. That’s how the age progression goes on soaps. You both did an excellent job for us. I so agree that if there’s a next season they’ve got to do better.

  15. Powell says:

    Great interview w/Heather NMD & BB. Heather was forthright and honest. Once I got to know who she is she grew on me.

  16. AZGirl says:

    Happy Friday Everyone! Thank you Thank you Thank you BB and NMD for the great Heather Thompson interview. LuLu and Mr. LuLu you guys are the best. I really enjoyed your recaps. Courtney is going to end up in porn and dead which is sad.

    Great job on last night’s Lauren Foster interview. It was very informative.
    JZ says the “PP” is an acronym for Private Plane well you all now know from my post last night that “PP” is for penis pump. HA!

  17. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Good afternoon all…THANK GOD IT’S FRIDAY!!! I just love Friday!! I just went to the super market and have chicken soup cooking on the stove.
    For those of you following the Maggie/Peter saga-Maggie told me that yesterday Peter asked why she never sit with him anymore. This is exactly what most of you thought would happen. I wish Peter’s mother would have zipped her lip and let these two star crossed first graders work things out on their own!! I feel like the drama of it all got the better of me but Im feeling calm now and less emotional. Thank you all for your help and encouraging words-you people ROCK!!!!

    • Hi Jill…thanks for the update. I was wondering. And see, now, these two little friends have been forced into a situation born of a silly mis-understanding. They should have been allowed to work it out. I know that is what you wanted….but the other mother totally over-reacted and sent it into a whole other hemisphere with all the bully cr*p instead of just calling you and letting it be worked out simply and easily. It is a shame. Well, hopefully, you will get more info from the teacher next week and there will still be a possibility for the kids to be friends again. Neither one of them really understands “what just happened” cuz they are just kids and want to hang out. Good luck with this…and I am glad your emotions have settled down. That will help with your perspective. If the other mother rants…let her. You keep your wits about you. 🙂 Hugs!

    • kidsrfunny says:

      Thanks Jill for the update. I don’t think you let the drama get the better of you. You reacted as any good Mother would. If you have time, please let us know how the parent teacher conference goes.

    • Orson says:

      You may want to keep a log of these incidents to present at the meeting with the teacher and whoever else is there. And let’s not go overboard on the Romeo and Juliet comparisons. Remember, in a nutshell, she was 13, he was 17, and 3 days after they fell in love, 6 people died.

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      I think you got it right the other day, Jill: Peter and Maggie will probably end up getting married. Maybe you and Peter’s Mom can make up at the wedding shower, rehearsal dinner or reception after the ceremony.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Detox-I will find out what dress Peter’s mother is wearing to the wedding and then I will be sure to wear to the rehearsal dinner!!!!!

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          ROFL! You must still be a little stressed because you are still cracking me up.

    • pugluva911 says:

      Jill peters mom is not doing him any favors being as overprotective as she is. Ur right they shoulda been able to just work it out like in the old days. Glad ur feeling calm now so that when u do speak to the principal or his mom u will be able to come across in a level headed sensible way. Good luck!

  18. Beckygrey says:

    Did anyone here think that Miami was a slumber party last evening?I have vowed not to watch it anymore. I didn’t appreciate Mama Elsa calling the President of the United States an “animal”. There was the touching moment when these immigrate women are bonding talking about the countries they came from and the fortune they have now being in the USA. They are blessed to be able to talk about the President and Mama Elsa takes it too far. You don’t have like the President or agree with him, but to call him an animal, too disrespectful.

    • djprincessc says:

      Oh please! Like people didnt call former President Bush names ALL the time, if animal was the only name that he was called I would’ve considered that polite. I’ve seen and heard a million times worse with the last President we had.

      • Nancy says:

        LOL You have a point. 🙂

        • djprincessc says:

          I know this isn’t a joke, but I find it to be really ridiculous, lol. All I remember hearing for 8 YEARS was the President being called dumb, stupid, nazi, war criminal etc etc etc or seeing cartoons or pictures of him in NOT the most respectful way. If you’re going to be in an uproar over one then do it for all (and when I say you I don’t mean YOU Nancy, I mean you in a general sense) 🙂

          • Laineylainey says:

            I am not in an uproar, but I stick to my comment that I do not like when any of our presidents are disparaged or disrespected. Ever. No likey. Me no likey.

            • djprincessc says:

              I get and respect that, I just can’t stand one sided anything. I highly highly doubt Lainey that if Elsa called Bush an animal we’d be having this conversation though. Just saying. lol.

              • Laineylainey says:

                I think we are in agreement, but I don’t want to be lumped in with whomever it is you are referring as one-sided. Or the generalization that we wouldn’t be talking about this if it had been our father and son Presidents we wouldn’t be having this conversation… The fact is that mama Elsa insulted our current President only. If she had disparaged either of our former Presidents during their terms I would have commented on that.

                • djprincessc says:

                  I wasn’t really lumping anyone in, whether Becky or someone else would have brought it up. I was in fact being general. I did mean what I said though, If it were the former President I do not think we would be having this conversation, I just can’t really picture anyone saying “Hey that was disrespectful, I’m not watching your show anymore because you called Bush dumb” (thats just my opinion though based on things I’ve seen or heard and I don’t even mean from here because I have no clue what anyone believes politically, again I am in fact being general) when nothing but disrespect was going on for 8 years when talking about the former. Now we’ve had a President for 4 years and I have heard disrespectful things about him but I don’t see the difference when it had already been going on previously. I hope this makes sense, kind of hard to really make it sound right through typing. 🙂

                  • Beckygrey says:

                    I know DJ. Because reading my post they seem angry, and I’m not.

                  • Laineylainey says:

                    Okie dokie. It’s all good. Oh and I’m not angrified. No anger here just an aversion to being lumped together w blah blah blah…already said what I wanted to say. Just want you to know we r good. I can actually disagree without getting angry now. It’s a weird thing after I turned 50ish. There are some good things about aging. Well that’s one good thing. If I think of more I’ll let you know.

                    • djprincessc says:

                      I’ve never understood people who get SO worked up over difference in opinions. It doesn’t ever change anyones opinions or beliefs and personally i think if someone can’t agree to disagree they are just ignorant and immature. 🙂

              • Beckygrey says:

                I would have been just as outraged. I didn’t think the Dixie Chick should have shone disrespect for the then President when they were out of the country. But I do understand their right to do so. The backlash was unbelievable. Disagreeing with someone’s philosophy, policy or viewpoint is one thing and being able to voice without reprise, is one of the greatest things, we as citizens can do. To call the most powerful man in the world is disrespectful, no matter who says it about any President. And I’m firm with that. It has become sliding slippery slope that we all are witnessing and/or apart, and the ugliness has became a rite of passage.

              • Beckygrey says:

                Djprincessc please feel free to direct the comment to me, who made the comment instead the deferral to Laineylainey. (in a non-combative tone)

              • lovemamaearth says:

                Bush’s race doesn’t have a history of being disregarded as Obama’s race has. There is a difference imo.

          • Nancy says:

            I’ll meet you at the flag poll at 3:00! 🙂

          • Beckygrey says:

            Why would not assume that I would be as outraged for all, instead you imply I am only outrage by the disrespect of this President.

      • Kat from Ohio says:

        i think there’s also an underlying, potentially racist facet of the phrase “animal” since that belief legitimized the subjugation of black people. i’m sure that most people invoking the “animal” insult don’t intend for it to be used that way, but it’s wise to be cognizant of the history and potential undercurrents of a word before using it.

        similarly, it gives me a real pause whenever obama is called a monkey, though that’s a bit more obvious and unforgivable, in my estimation.

        • Kat from Ohio says:

          i should say, the belief is reference is that africans are less than human, savage, animalistic… which helped colonialists rationalize annexing foreign lands and dominating its people

        • Beckygrey says:

          Thank you for that too. There is a disconnect, because for the longest time people didn’t have to consider those concepts/or historical facts. Now that people are facing it, there is a sense of denial because they are not effected by the fallout. There was a time in history when people didn’t believe the world is round, either.

          • djprincessc says:

            And I understand that Kat, I agree. The fact is that there is in fact racism between hispanics and african americans and people probably thought Elsa was in fact being racist calling him an animal (although I don’t see it myself) to me she was commenting about him wanting to give away everything and take away what people have worked hard for (I think thats what she said) and she doesn’t agree/like it. I am hispanic and know all about the racism between the two races and especially in the “Older people” but I have no clue if in fact she was being racist or not though. But very good point.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            Great points you two. Good discussion.

          • lovemamaearth says:

            Agree Becky & Kat.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I didn’t watch all of it Becky…but that is awful. I am not a fan of saying horrible things like that about our president regardless of his or her political affiliation. Just because she is older and has risen above her misfortune does not give her pass in this case.

    • kit9 says:

      Who gets to say what’s too disrespectful? This ain’t a Kingdom and he’s not a King. She can say whatever she wants about him.

      • Laineylainey says:

        Who gets to say? We get to say. It’s called an opinion. We are allowed to share our opinions just as you are. I’m simply answering your question about who gets to say…oh and she does get to say whatever she wants. Therefore she did say what she wanted. And so did I! Go USA!

      • djprincessc says:

        Lol. I’m laughing now Kit. Thats funny.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          Lainey I have great respect for you but if a leader is involved in lying and treasonous behavior while in office I think that there are words to describe this. If we are talking about name calling for name calling sake, then I guess I agree. In a perfect world, we should not call any other person names. But we do. The President is a human being with flaws and virtues, just like anyone else not to mention that the President and the Presidency are totally different issues in the scheme of things. As far as history is concerned, I would prefer, myself, to not romanticize the position of our leaders, because it seems that in 50 years, the truth comes out, and we find that they were flawed just like the people, they have been compelled to lead. JMHO.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Hi CAP -Thanks, I, too respect you greatly. You make super valid points. YOu actually sound like my son i.e. he has said almost the exact things to me as what you wrote.

            I am a first generation American and my parents were so grateful to live here and raise their family here. We weren’t rich by any stretch but it was a huge step up from what they had known as children. They never, ever, ever accepted any aid for which they qualified. As a child and young teen my mom literally knew nothing but struggle, poverty and daily hunger. When she came to the USA all of that changed. We were taught to work hard, study hard, and to pray for our current leaders. Imagine that, to pray for them!!! We were punished for calling them names or making fun of them. We could disagree with their policies but we weren’t allowed to be disrespectful (or what my mom considered disrespect and ungratefulness). I think that’s where I’m coming from. With that said, I do respect anyone’s right to say and do what they wish regarding the government and our leaders. But I have a right to say that in my opinion, there’s a line that shouldn’t be crossed but who am I? It’s just my way.

            Oh and my parents always sided with our teachers. Always. I hated that, because some of my teachers were really unfair and even borderline sadistic,…but they would tell me. You’re lucky to go to school. Swallow your pride and when you’re as educated as he/she, then you can come back and argue with your teacher. Until then, you shut up and obey. It was hard for me to overcome that sanctification of teachers when I had my kids. It got in the way sometimes of being an effective advocate for my kids. I had to really fight my upbringing on that one.

            Thanks for taking the time to share your views with me. I know there is so much ugly corruption in the world and I know a lot of it starts with the government and big business and corporate greed – oh gosh, the list goes on and on. My son once told me I was in “soma sleep” (reference George Orwell’s 1984) during one of our discussions on our world political views- –I hope that’s not true. haha!! But I come off that way, I realize. Take comfort in knowing that I didn’t do the same to my kids…they are well-read, well-versed, and well-equipped to argue with/about any politician or public policy. They’ve both called our Governor a few names and yes, I will “tsk, tsk”. And they just keep talking like I didn’t “tsk”; cause they know it’s just my way. It’s never personal.

            • djprincessc says:

              Lainey, I think that if everyone did/practices what you and your parents do the world would be a better and much more respectful place. Except for the teachers thing because I have NEVER been a fan of teachers. lol. Totally different post for that though!!

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Thanks DJP – totally with you on the teacher thing. LOL!! I’m the first to admit/eggmit my folks went a little bit overboard on that other stuff. But I’m a product of THEIR REALITY so though I’m more liberal than they, I can’t shake it all away. Oh and they weren’t Ozzy and Harriett in other ways. Far from it. They were just humbled and grateful to be here. American families become more and more empowered as the generations progress and that’s how it should be.

                Might their attitude have been different if they or their ancestors had been brought to this country unwillingly? Of course abso-freakin-lutely. That is why I can only speak from my own American experience and must have an open mind and heart for those whose experience differs from mine.

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              I loved hearing the story about your parents and your background and the way they raised you, Lainey. Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                It is very interesting LaineyLove-I never knew you were first generation American.
                My “people” have been in the USofA forever and my very american Mother ALWAYS sided with the teacher…until this one really mean nun slapped my sister…that mean old nun-she messed with the wrong kid.

    • pugluva911 says:

      ITA I didnt like that either. And yes pres bush was called all sort of names too.
      I think calling any of our presidents names like that is very disrespectful.

  19. Great Recaps. I’m enjoying reading the blogs a lot. Miami last night was so pleasant and not drama filled. It’s how I imagine Wealthy people throw parties. Not the dramafests we have seen on RHONJ, RHONY, RHOA, RHOBH and RHOOC. I like an elegant dinner with nice conversations and entertainment. The best parties we have attended with friends were dinner parties where 8 adults polished off 11 bottles of wine. We laughed a LOT and the whole evening took 6-7 hours to complete. Yes we had a driver (gotta love kids who like hearing their drunk parents giggle all the way home in the car and knowing they are safe).
    Couples Therapy ended with a fizzle. Courtney is still dressing like a porn star in-training so she learned NOTHING from Dr Jenn. I predict she will divorce Doug when her “star” takes off and she realizes she doesn’t need him anymore. How does he make money since his movie/tv career took such a hit when he married her?
    Silex surprised me in a very pleasant way. I have always liked how they love each other and are raising their boys. They just seemed to need some tweaking to get around their own personality quirks that make them so unique. I do hope they get a show and are back on tv soon.
    Nik and Shay just needed to step back and see what they were doing to each other. They can move forward and raise their daughter together now. Compromises are tough and Shay likes being in control like Nik. Nik reminds me of my hubby in that he just wants to recreate the happy times and support his wife.
    JoJo and Tiny I fell in love with them. WOW what an awesome lady Tiny is to stand by JoJo while he just kept drinking. I know how tough alcoholics are to live with so I applaud her for staying and fighting to save him from his demons.
    Too Short and Monica I still don’t know too well so not much to say about them.
    Thank You NMD for all the hard work you are doing like our Lynn did, you do such honor to her memory with your blogs and getting up early for Powell to be the first one to comment. LOL
    Thank You to all the bloggers.
    God Bless,
    Diana

    • designernailsdiana says:

      Oops…..Also GREAT Interview with Heather. I loved her on NY this last season. She is so real. And Lauren on Miami, nice to see LGBT get a positive light shined on it and kudo’s to GLAAD too.

      • Beckygrey says:

        I loved Heather too. I didn’t at first, because I felt that she disrespected Ramona. But she is my favorite out of ALL of the NYC wives. I wish she could hang out with Lisa, Brandi… wait that it, Just Brandi and Lisa. LOL

    • Krissy S says:

      RHMiami seems to have the playfulness that some of the other cities have lost. Maybe it is because they are still new to the show and not bogged down by seasons of drama, but I enjoy seeing their personal stories instead of just the friction between the ladies. The editors have struck a good balance. They also seem a little more accessible than other cities/casts and I think that it is partially because of their normal jobs – dentist, lawyer, business women. Last night’s episode with all of the moms was a cool way to add more dimension to the ladies without having to push them into another fight. As a complete momma’s girl, it was sweet to see them all interacting.

  20. AZGirl says:

    This Sunday night Mr. AZGirl and I have tickets to the annual Desert Botanical Garden Luminarias. We are taking friends from Mr. AZGirl’s church that are new to the area. It is really a beautiful event. Musicians throughout the garden perform and they have food and drinks.

    WELL HELL’S BELL’S Sunday night is the finale of Boardwalk Empire! I know they have another showing later so it is cool. Nothing like strolling the botanical gardens with a Cactus Jack in hand listening to music and then going home to watch a really grossly violent show with frontal nudity to get in the Christmas spirit 🙂

  21. djprincessc says:

    Radar online os now reporting that Kim Z doesn’t owe 1 million dollars, I guess Colin Cowie is saying she does owe money but its 20k. Same difference, the woman still has a hard time paying her bills obviously. lol.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/11/kim-zolciak-wedding-planner-money-colin-cowie

    • Noelle says:

      I somewhat liked her, that feelings long gone now.
      Won’t be watching that lazy heifer @all.

      • djprincessc says:

        Exactly. She was tolerable to me even when she was a lying, cheating, no shame mistress. But ever since Kroy her head has just exploded with self entitlement. They say Nene thinks she’s the shit but IDK, I think Kim has her beaten on this one. I don’t see how anyone could still like her. She acts like she’s the only woman on the planet to get married and have a kid. Big deal.

        • Laineylainey says:

          Well said…so funny!

          • djprincessc says:

            I mean really?? Haha 🙂

            • Nancy says:

              dj,
              I saw the link you posted re: Carly Rose. I’m so upset because I don’t think she should
              have been able to be on the show. It’s for singers that haven’t been paid for their craft.
              Do you remember last year when Stacy was kicked off? It happened because they found out that she had been a professional singer before.

              • Noelle says:

                okay, I’m lost.
                My girls love Carly (X-Factor.)
                I haven’t heard anything, let me guess, she’s a professional…right??
                Her voice is amazing.
                Sorry to see Vito go, loved his soulful voice.

              • djprincessc says:

                You know what Nancy I only watched the first 2 episodes (I think) of X Factor last season, I was so excited for it coming to the U.S. but it could not hold my attention so I really DON’T know what went on last season.

                The only reason why I watched this season is because I am a long time HUGE Britney fan, and honestly saw they beginning of this season, skipped a little of the middle (hey that rhymes! haha) and started watching again like 3 weeks ago.

                And I love Carly but I do agree the point is to find raw talent that has NO experience. I wonder why they let her stay? Probably for ratings and they know she’s going to win?

                I am in fact SUPER DUPER excited for American Idol this Jan because I LOVE LOVE LOVE Mariah since I was 8!! I don’t like Nicki Minaj and don’t know what she’s there for but will not let that stop me from watching the queen Mariah! 🙂

                • Nancy says:

                  dj,
                  Was it you that was talking about Brittney the other day? It might have been Detox.
                  Someone was saying that she is a shell of herself like her spirit was gone. ITA.
                  I get really sad when I see her now. I have a feeling the county singer is going to win.
                  Carly Rose is just too young for a 5 million dollar contract.

                  It will be fun to see Mariah on AI. Also Nicole’s husband. 🙂

                  • djprincessc says:

                    Yes! Detox and I were talking about Brit Brit. Its true about her 😦 But I explained my wacky theory on that post. lol.

                    Really you think shes too young? I could see that, but the fact she made it this far kinda tells me she could win this whole thing. I have to admit since I only liked Paige and Carly I never really listened to the other contestants sing. I mean yes they were on, but after the first tryouts I never payed attention to them. He he he 🙂

                    • Nancy says:

                      She ha the talent to win no doubt. I just hate to see kids go into showbiz that young.
                      It usually doesn’t end well. Is she going to fill a stadium? Maybe. When she sang
                      Somewhere Over the Rainbow I was in tears.

                    • Noelle says:

                      I to think Britney is a shell of her former self.
                      She used to be so vivacious.
                      Now, liked a dried up bean

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  I agree that, if Carly has already sung on Broadway, it’s not fair for her to be in the competition.

                  I also agree that I can hardly wait for “American Idol” this season! I’d stopped watching the show for a while, but when they hired J-Lo (Who is on one of my “All-Time Favorite Divas” list), I started watching again.

                  Now, I like Mariah even MORE than I like J-Lo (Isn’t it funny that 2 of the divas on my list can’t stand each other?! I think the animosity is more on Mariah’s side toward J-Lo, though, because she claimed J-Lo and her ex-husband, Tommy Mottola, worked together to steal “something” from her. I forget what exactly. I don’t know if it was a beat, a track, a song, a producer, a….or WHAT! It was YEARS ago, and I can’t remember exactly. *Shrug*). I like that Mariah is over-the-top; revels in her “diva-ness”; has the pipes and songwriting ability to back it up; married a man that obviously ADORES her (and appears to be a good, hardworking dude); and has 2 of the most ADORABLE/BEAUTIFUL children I have ever seen.

                  I can’t wait to see her bring the drama and the bit of “good CRAZY” that the show needs (the way Paula Abdul used to do).

                  I’m also interested to see Mariah and Nikki Minaj interact.

                  • djprincessc says:

                    Meeeee tooooooo Detox!! I love JLO and Mariah even more! Isnt that funny?? lol. I don’t get Nicki Minaj on the show though. When I heard the rumors about it, I was hoping they were just that RUMORS. She’s ok and I love hip hop but she is a real bitch, have you seen her always screaming and yelling on the E! Special that was done on her?? Thats not the first time I saw her act like that either bc MTV had a special on her before and she acted the same way.

                    I know Nicki is popular right now but I can’t imagine her around in 30 years like Mariah. I mean how many songs about ass and strippers can Nicki write? And like I said I love hip hop thats mostly all I listen too but I find her to be a TAD too vulgar. Iol.

                    And what I don’t understand is the feud between Mariah and Nicki bc Nicki was actually FEATURED on of of Mariah’s songs before!! “Up Outta my Face” on Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, so they HAVE worked or liked each other at one point. Idk if Nicki was with Young Money at that time but I’m guessing it has def. gone to her head.

                    To me Mariah is the Cashmere on the sweater and Nicki is the lint you pick off it. 🙂

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      My 24 y.o. son likes Nicki. Loves the production value of her stuff. My 21 y.o. daughter doesn’t appreciate the fact that her 13 y.o. female cousin idolizes Nicki. She feels that Nicki is irresponsible since so many young girls idolize her. It’s funny because she is so liberal, but after I typed that she sounds really old-fashioned. haha!

        • Noelle says:

          Amen. 😉

          • djprincessc says:

            OMG Nancy I watched her Over the Rainbow performance SO many times and cried every time, didn’t really like her singing Adele this week though. Will be interesting to see who does win! 🙂

            • Nancy says:

              I taped it and have played it MANY times since. I just read that she won the
              2011 young singer award from some broadway company. I wonder why she
              didn’t make it big after that? She also acts professionally.

            • Noelle says:

              Carly’s rendition of Over the Rainbow was spell binding.
              However, reading about her colorful musical background, I’m all for Tate.
              (I think that’s his name, Country singer.)

              • Nancy says:

                I think he’s going to win and I’ll be glad. I love to see a “nobody” become great
                overnight. He has a family and he’s nice. I just read that Vino has offers coming in left and right sinse he was voted off last night. He walked up to Simon and asked if he was mad at him. Simon said no but he didn’t think he was going to win anyway.
                Simon can be a real jerk.

                • Noelle says:

                  Simon can be a real ass. I have a love/hate relationship with him. Shame om him for saying that to Vino.
                  BTW, Ceecee and Emblem3 both need to hit the road!

                  • Nancy says:

                    Funny you say that about Simon as I feel the exact same way. He does know what
                    he’s doing but his delivery needs help.

                    • Noelle says:

                      I mostly love and endlessly forgive Simon..shhh 😉
                      I’m curious… How do you feel about Gordon Ramsay?…

                  • djprincessc says:

                    I totally agree with Cece and Emblem3!!!!! Can’t stand them!!

                  • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                    Simon CAN be a jackass at times.

                    But I want to marry him — or at least date him for a while so he could buy me a mansion and give me some money and other things as a type of “severance package” for being dumped by him (That’s what he supposedly does with all of his ex-girlfriends).

                    I’m pretty sure he would charm the pants off of me! 😀

                    • Nancy says:

                      Too much chest hair for me. Yuck! Someone needs to tell him the unbuttoned shirt
                      went out a few decades ago. lol

          • Nancy says:

            I have to think Britney is on medication giving her a flat affect. See this is way I don’t
            like to see kids in showbiz.

            I read that Lindsey Lohan is willing to put herself into a 6 mon rehab so she doesn’t
            get put in jail! (eye roll)

            • Noelle says:

              Nancy, I agree but I also think her family has taken huge advantages from her.
              IMO, they sent her out to bring in the $$$, putting $$ over her well being.
              Her fiance is “alledgedly” hand picked by her father to continue the endless $$$ oppurtunities.
              Quite shameful, and I think it shows, with Britney.

              • Noelle says:

                *huge advantage of her*

              • Nancy says:

                If you are talking about Lindsay I totally agree but…Lindsay has been to 5 rehabs
                already. She has the tools to stay clean & sober and she chooses to not work
                her program. Any idiot can stay clean when they are in rehab, the real work begins
                once they leave. Yes I do feel sorry for her because of who her parents are but she
                can’t use that card all the time as it is getting old.

                BTW I LOVE Gordon Ramsey. He cracks me up.

                • Noelle says:

                  Actually I was referring to Britney. No to Lindsay.
                  WOW, I LOVE Gordon too. lol

                • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                  I honestly think that, even if Lindsay got clean and sober, she’d still be a trainwreck. I honestly think she is a kleptomaniac and a sociopath. I honestly think she has no morals and no conscience and she LIES (and, IMO, will continue to LIE — even if she’s clean and sober) like a damned RUG (in a pathological sort of way). *Shrug*

                  Even WITH his drug and alcohol problems, for years, people said that Robert Downey, Jr. was a GOOD man who was just a very terrible addict who could just NOT seem to “kick” it.

                  FINALLY, he got clean and sober, and he has truly shown that he is the good man that people were saying he was EVEN WHEN he was in the midst of his addiction.

                  Lindsay? ….Ummmm…..NOT SO MUCH…..

                  • Nancy says:

                    I have to agree. I don’t have high hopes for her. I bet her days on earth are numbered.
                    It usually ends in…jails, institutions or death.

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              I have a feeling that Britney is on some medication (or medications) that ARE contributing to her flat affect. I also feel, however, like she REALLY no longer wants to be doing this (being in the public eye; going on concert tours; just being in the Entertainment Industry in general) anymore.

              I feel like she’d be very happy moving back to Louisiana and living VERY quietly with her kids (if she could re-gain custody. She’d probably be unable to move to Louisiana unless she paid her ex-husband/children’s father to move here too, though. That’s unlikely because he’s got 3 other kids with 2 other “baby mamas” who both live in California).

              I also feel like she is, with that conservatorship, basically under the control of her father (and probably other business people) and no longer has the rights of an adult. Don’t get me wrong. They probably had to take those steps to take her life because she had just spiraled SOOO out of control at one point.

              But I feel like they still force/trot her out to perform on concert tours and to do other public eye money-making things because she is their cash cow. She just seems “over it” (being in the business) to me. *Shrug*

              I feel sorry for her.

              • Nancy says:

                I think you are right. I heard that all alcohol is forbidden back stage during
                The X-Factor. Too bad Kyle didn’t think of that during Kim’s weekend of fun.

    • T-Rex says:

      Kim has been give the Bravo KISS OF DEATH, sorry but her swan song is whatever she already taped for her Lame spinoff, she is TOAST with them, or they would be picking up fees for some of her digressions. I feel SO SORRY for Kroy the man will be bankrupt in 3 years with this Gold-digger! You don’t piss of Mz Andy if you want to stay on Bravo and word in Hotlanta is Andy is DONE with Kim and her antics

      • djprincessc says:

        Idk T-rex, I used to feel bad for Kroy, but now not so much. He acts the same as Kim IMO, and if not that he forsure allows/encourages her behavior so to me that makes him just like her! The way he treated her parents, and the way he treats Sweetie is disgusting to me.

  22. TexasTart says:

    Heather Thompson interview – Congrats NMD. Good questions from you and BB! She is a favorite, really from the get go, for me at least. And I usually reserve judgement for a first season, but hands down, nothing I saw/heard that I didn’t like – even when she and Ramona had their issues, I’m glad that worked out. Very nice pic of Heather too, I see she supplied that herself. I like the way she doesn’t hang on to regrets and “It’s only a mistake to make it twice.” She’s just such a fabulous addition to RHONY – I sure hope she will do another season. I can’t imagine they wouldn’t ask her back!

    NMD you make me laugh every time you type “Patti Stranger” (instead of Stanger) and I’m sure it’s due to your great admiration of her work, HA! 😉

    Krissy – Great recap of Miami, was able to pick up a couple of things that weren’t clear at the time (because I was typing comments, I’m sure!). I like your style of writing with the segments with the titles and the quotes are an added plus.

    Thanks to everyone who contributes to the blog, I enjoy it daily! 😀

  23. TexasTart says:

    Well, I do not have time to read comments right now, but to just throw this out and hope it’s not already been discussed…

    LISA on RHOM. I think she surprised many of us. It’s a very unfortunate fact that she’s miscarried multiple times and has yet to have a child of her own and with Lenny.
    But does it not seem too dramatic that she is saying on the show that not having a child with Lenny could quite possibly lead to the end of her marriage?!

    Seriously, he would not love her enough to keep her, he would just throw her to the curb?! And there is something called adoption?! Hello?! They seem for whatever few minutes on screen to love and respect one another. So what is wrong with this comment?! I don’t even know why this bothers me so much, oh right because I didn’t have children and I didn’t have to worry about that being a deal breaker with my husband!!! So is this claim unreasonably trumped up by Lisa for a storyline?!

    • Maybe they could use a surrogate, like Camille. I’m surprised they haven’t tried this already. Adoption is a terrific idea too. If she wants an instant family, she could do both! After a few miscarriages, it’s awful to keep trying & going thru all that emotion. Devastating, really. Adoption and/or a surrogate would allow her to be a mom & I think she’d be a great one.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I agree with you that they seem to really be in love. when she said it I cringed and wondered how that might have made dr. Lenny feel.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      TT-I think maybe Lisa FEELS that way, but I don’t think Lenny does. I have had 2 miscarriages and know what Lisa is going through.. Such feelings of failure -even though deep down you know better-it feels like you are a failure. Maybe she was having a week moment and was feeling down on herself? After my first miscarriage I felt so badly for Kevin-what if I couldn’t have a baby? I know he wanted a family-we talked about it all the time. What if the game plan changed? Would he want to find someone else? These are the thoughts that go through your head. Once I said these things to Kevin he looked at me like I was crazy. You see-he was never thinking about leaving me-he was sad for me. He knew I wanted a baby and he didn’t know how to handle my sadness.

      • Laineylainey says:

        Hugs to you ladies…all youse!

      • Jill, I actually told my husband that if he wanted to divorce me & marry someone else (after we went thru years of infertility treatments with no success) it was ok with me. He thought I was crazy, and said he never would leave me. So we went the adoption route & are very happy we did – our son is now 18. And I sincerely wish we had adopted more kids, but in my later 30s my health wasn’t up to it. So I do regret waiting so long to start a family (mid 30s) and not having more kids. For years, my son asked for a brother, even a sister. He’s accepted it now, but really is close to his buddies. He considers some of them to be brothers. He does have cousins but none live close to us. I’m sure he will make a great dad as he loves kids, and probably will have plenty! Being an only child is lonely.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Bluesky-I think as women we are so hard on ourselves. I mean who the hell asks their husband “Do you want to leave me?”. Poor Kevin-he was totally lost-he didn’t know if I had gone completely mad or what!! Im glad you and your hubby ended up with the boy you were meant to have. When he complains about being an only child-tell him there are plenty of kids from big families who dreamed of being an only child more than once..or twice!!!

          • he’s okay with it now, because he finally realized he’s the sole heir 😉 funny how that worked out well!

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              LOL. You can also tell them that siblings can be great, but they CAN also be very TRYING at times. My Mom & Dad have both had to deal with siblings that require either lots of money or lots of time and attention. In fact, my Mom is still dealing with one that makes her pull her hair out. She LOVES her dearly, but…..D-R-A-M-A (which is not good for my Mother with her medical problems).

              Also, you can tell him that he had the advantage of never having to fight with a sibling over sharing things. Just last night, my youngest brother (the one with Aspbergers, who is like a human calendar and remembers EVERY DAMNED thing) asked me if I remembered the weekend that I and our (other brother) got into a fistfight over the television on a Saturday. When I told him, “No,” and asked him what he was talking about, he said that my brother and I actually fist fought over what to watch on a Saturday on a t.v. we all had to share.

              His Choice: Wrestling
              Mine: Soul Train

              My Mother’s Choice: Screaming at the both of us; shutting the t.v. off and making us both stay in our room to stare at the ceiling for the rest of the day and the night.

              So, at least your son never had to deal with that. *Shrug* (I swear to GOD, I do not EVEN remember that!).

            • djprincessc says:

              Me too! I’m like I got nothing to fight about when everyone croaks. At least I dont have to worry about that!! lol.

        • djprincessc says:

          Bluesky! I am an only child and an only grandchild on my dads side. It is lonely. I actually loved it when I was little, I got all the attention and basically anything I wanted. But as I got older into my later teens I started noticing wait a min? I don’t have a sibling to just go do stuff with. And THEN it got lonely, now that I’m in my late 20’s I HATE it, its too stressful being the only one. I am super super close with my parents though esp. my mom and I’m very independent and self sufficient where as I have a lot of friends who are very co-dependent and terrified of being alone.

          • Nancy says:

            My husband is an only child as well. Both of his parents are gone as well.
            It makes me sad. What state do you live in?

            • djprincessc says:

              I’m in Southern CA Nancy! You?? It is sad, my mom has always had a lot of health problems and it has been one of my biggest issues being an only child about her not being here one day. Then what do I do? She’s the stronger one from my parents, it sounds horrible but I always thought that it would be harder for my dad to deal with her passing then my mom dealing with his passing. Not that she loves him less, but emotionally she’s a trooper with those type of things. Idk if that makes sense. My dad is an only child too soooo ya. lol.

              I have a lot of friends though and when I finally am able to find a normal man I want CHILDREN not one CHILD but 3, I always wanted 4 but being 27 now and single I’d be happy with 3. How has your husband liked being an only? Do you come from a big family?

              • Nancy says:

                dj,
                I live in LA as well. (small world) We moved dowm here from San Fran a few yrs ago.
                I grew up here though. I thought I only had one sibling (a sister) but I found out that I have a 1/2 brother out there. He lives in Canada. We have spoken many times over the phone and plan to meet each other soon. My husband is very introverted. I’m not
                sure if he would have liked to have siblings. He loves my family so I hope he doesn’t feel too lonely.
                I know how you feel knowing you are the only one that will be taking care of your mother
                as that is what it was like with my father before he died. It is a big deal. You are still young though so you have time. We weren’t able to have any children so we got lots of pets. That helped fill the void. 🙂

                • djprincessc says:

                  Oh really? 🙂 what part? I’m in the south bay! Torrance! I grew up here as well. Really your husband is introverted? Every only child I have known doesn’t shut up! Myself included. lol. I think its funny when people have said we’re lucky I don’t think so. And my mom says over and over how she regrets so bad not having more. But oh well, it does have its positives though, like I said I’m really independent and self sufficient something that friends of mine lack and I genuinely love myself. The only children I’ve known have been confident. 🙂

                  • Nancy says:

                    We live in La Crescenta. I grew up in Sherman Oaks though.
                    George didn’t like that fact that her happiness was wrapped up in him. He felt a lot
                    of pressure to be everything she wanted. I hope that made sense. I never met her as she dies before we met. Neither one of us have any parents alive now which is sad as
                    we aren’t that old. May I ask what kind of work you are into? If you don’t make me
                    buy you a BMW I’ll act like your sister. lol (My nieces want me to get them BMW’s for graduation. It’s not goig to happen.) lol

                    • djprincessc says:

                      Omg as much as I am attached at the hip to my momma, she’s my everything, but thats the problem!! She is my everything and I am hers and it was A TON of pressure growing up! Thats why I never got into any trouble! The only trouble I ever got was because of my smart mouth, thats it though. I totally understand what your husband means. My mom makes me feel guilty still sometimes about dumb little things but not as much now. And my dad, my dad lol he’s in his own world and doesn’t wanna be bothered (I think he’s going through a mini mid life crisis, lol.)

                      And of course you can, I am actually a realtor! I have been going on 2 years now and its funny you mention that because I have had the same car since I was 17 and dying for a BMW a white one so thank you in advance! haha! jk. I like your nieces taste! If i sell 2 maybe 3 more houses I can finally get one!! 🙂

                    • Nancy says:

                      dj,
                      Do you still live at home?

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            (((djprincess)))

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      When Lisa made that comment, it REALLY bothered me too. The way her mother-in-law treats her also bothers me. Did her mother-in-law not like her from the beginning? Or is her mother-in-law expressing her disapproval and disappointment — in a passive-aggressive fashion — over Lisa’s inability thus far to give Lenny a child (or children)?

      I have no kids and no husband, but, when she said that, it really simultaneously touched my heart and bothered me at the same time. Her husband seems to be a very nice guy who truly loves her. Why would she think her inability to give him a biological child could cause their marriage to end? I wonder if he said something to make her feel that way.

      OR, like you said, TT, maybe she is just using this as a storyline.

      • djprincessc says:

        Detttooooxxx! Did you or do you watch Bill and Giuliana? I love the way they dealt with the whole not being able to have babies thing…and they got their happy ending!! 🙂

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I used to watch “Bill and Giuliana” all the time until those suckers at DirecTV decided to remove the STYLE Network from my package. I was pissed off, but, because I am cheap, I refused to pay those suckers the extra price (I mean, a deal is a deal. If I had the STYLE Network in my package when I signed up with your asses, then I should STILL have it. Don’t give it to the ones who sign up AFTER you make the decision to start charging extra, Dammit!!).

          I miss that show, and I also loved the way they dealt with their infertility issues. They seem like such a SOLID couple. Bill seems like such a sweetheart. They’ve been through a lot, and I’m so glad that they now have little “Duke” (which I think is a very cool name).

          • djprincessc says:

            Awww that sucks for you. I hate when networks do that! Maybe you can watch them on their website? I haven’t watched all the new season thats going on now because I forget about it but started about 3 weeks ago and its really good. They are great for each other and I love how supportive he is no matter what. Now THAT is a real man!! I like her, but I find her to be a little immature in a weird way sometimes. They are very lucky that they are able to afford all of what they’ve needed to FINALLY have a baby and not use a surrogate.

      • Orson says:

        Keep in mind that Lisa’s MIL is a Jewish Mother. So besides the standard MIL stuff, there’s JM stuff tossed in also.

        • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

          I was also going to mention the possibility that Lisa may not be Jewish and this may be one of the reasons that Lenny’s Mother has not quite warmed to her (but I did not want to offend anyone).

          • Orson says:

            Remember, Lenny is a doctor. So to MIL, he’s “My son, the doctor”. There probably isn’t a woman alive who is worthy of her prince.

    • TexasTart says:

      Thanks for the replies and personal experiences ladies. So maybe these are just Lisa’s insecurities being voiced and Lenny will be livid to have heard them…I don’t know why I was sentencing him w/o a jury!

      Oh yes, adoption is fullfilling, my niece is adopted and an only child that has been asking my sister for more. And likely, she too will be the sole heir! That was funny, bluesky, I’ll tell my sister to use that line if she hasn’t already!

      • djprincessc says:

        Nancy! Idk why I can’t reply up there but yes I do still live with them. I actually hurt my back going on 4 years now at my previous job (long long story) but I was on workman’s comp for about 2 years (which set me back a lot), after my case was settled I started working in Real Estate. So I’ve been building my business now the past year and a half as soon as I’m finally able to get more consistency, I’m outta here! haha!

        • djprincessc says:

          **Going on 4 years ago**

        • Nancy says:

          dj,
          There is nothing wrong with living with your parents. Actually I think it’s a wonderful thing but I know you want and need your own place. I didn’t think anyone in Real Estate right now is doing well. Good for you. Is your mother going to get better?

          • djprincessc says:

            No I love them, but I would LOVE LOVE LOVE my own space and privacy. I am ok with living at home right now because I know it is for a bigger reason, where as when I was 21 I was just dying to be free. Real Estate in Southern CA is doing great, especially in the South Bay, the problem is that there is NO INVENTORY, we have no homes for people to buy and prices are going up. I sold my last listing in ONE day and it was a $570k home!! Since inventory is so low, its creating a multiple offer situation and thats what driving up the prices. Its good on both sides though because people are still able to take advantage of low interest rates. We just need more homes.

            And thanks so much for asking about my mom. She has Rheumatoid Arthritis, Fibromyalgia and Diabetes. First was the fibro (she was one of the very first people to have it, at the time when she was diagnosed people had no clue what it was) then she got the RA after the RA she got diabetes, her diabetes was actually triggered by the steroids she takes for her RA. She has everything under control and sees doctors regularly but I worry about the meds she takes and the side effects. Thats what terrifies me. Last year she had a benign tumor that was rapidly growing on the left side of her face right next to her ear, thank god she had it removed and is fine but it was really scary for me.

            I’m really sorry your parents are gone, that must be hard and I don’t know if I could even deal with that but at least you have your husband and you have you other siblings! Oh and your pets!! 🙂

            • Nancy says:

              She has all three!!! The poor woman. I remember when FM first came out.
              Everyone was saying it was “all in their head”. My aunt has RA and has been in a
              chair for a while now. She hates the meds as well. Have you heard of RSD?
              That’s what I have. Personally I would rather of had a cancer diagnosis. 😦

              • djprincessc says:

                Yes she does, I don’t know how she does it. My momma is a strong strong woman, I could never do the things she does with all of her health problems. So far she has been blessed with not being in a wheel chair or immobile, I think bc she caught it early. If you see her she looks fine at most she looks swollen or just tired. The meds can be harsh and VERY VERY expensive.

                You know exactly what I mean then about Fibro, people thought it was all in her head…far from it, I remember when she would be in bed and said her skin was burning or tingling. To this day she cuts the tags off ALL of her clothes bc they drive her insane with the rubbing.

                No I don’t think I have heard of RSD. What happened? 😦

                • Nancy says:

                  It’s a hard one to explain. The neuro pathways get all messed up and you end up with a burning pain like no other. Many nights I have my hand in the freezer to help with the pain. There is no cure and very limited treatments. 😦

                  • djprincessc says:

                    I am so sorry, I really understand having seen/been through it all with my mom. I know that she takes Effexor for her fibro and I know you get burning with Fibro, might that possibly help?? Do you see a specialist? My mom has/had some amazing doctors.

                    • Nancy says:

                      Unfortunately that med won’t work as one is a muscle problem and RSD is a nerve problem. Yes I had great doctors up in San Fran but not down here yet. There really
                      isn’t anything one can do. I’ve stayed in stage 3 so I’m lucky. Some RSD patients
                      loose all use of their extremity’s. Check out the photo’s on Yahoo. It isn’t pretty.

                      I’m glad your mother has a good support team around her. Needless to say you are
                      a great daughter. So is Detox. 🙂

            • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

              OMG, dj! I feel so bad for your Mom. She’s lucky to have you.

              I also have to tell you that, because you and I seem to be very similar and have similar viewpoints, you MIGHT be my SISTER from another MISTER (Just kidding). That’s also because my Mom has RA, Fibromyalgia and a Heart Condition (She told me the exact name, but I forget. Before her family moved to Lake Charles, they lived in a rural area when she was very, very young. It’s something she got by being exposed to chickens. Maybe Nancy or any other medical person on this blog will know what it is. I’m too tired to look it up right now).

              She LOVED her job, but her RA was so bad and hit her and caused her to decline so quickly that she was forced to go on Total Disability. I always tell her that I don’t know how she can be so strong. I also tell her that, although I am VERY strong MENTALLY, I’m a big baby when it comes to physical pain. If I develop R.A., I’ll probably take tons of pain meds and basically turn into Michael Jackson. She HATES that I say that, but I KNOW myself. *Shrug*

              Despite all of her pain, she STILL tries to do TOO much, and I fuss at her about it (I try not to be a nag, but, I mean, does she really need to power wash our garage and our driveway? Does she really need to try to keep up all of our landscaping when my Dad is working? Does she really need to constantly try to mop floors and do things to constantly tire herself out with her condition?

              Ummm…..NO!! My coming here was unexpected and unplanned, but I MAKE her sit her ASS down and let me do a lot of that stuff when my schedule allows. She says she’s not comfortable just doing nothing. I told her I find great pleasure in doing absolutely nothing and contemplating my navel, and that she would feel the same way if she just PRACTICED and got USED to it! LOL).

              (((dj’s Mom)))

              • djprincessc says:

                Detox! I am just seeing this! Thanks so much for the kind words and hug! We have to be related, or at least you are the black version of me and I am the hispanic version of you! haha!

                Thats crazy insane your mom and my mom have 2 of the same illnesses, but at the same time they usually go hand in hand. I know that Lupus is also something they check for when also checking for RA. And your mom worked?! My goodness. My mom became a stay at home mom when she had me so she was fortunate in that way, as I got older she wanted to work but realized after being diagnosed with RA that wasn’t possible.

                Our moms our strong women and I think often think about what if I get it since I know I have a 50% chance. I am SO anti medicine besides advil here and there that idk if I would be up for taking all those meds. I’m very into natural everything and seeing my dad giving my mom her Embrel shot every week scares me, but I know she NEEDS it.

                When it comes down to it, theres no way really of knowing if we will get it or not and I take more after my father so hopefully not. I hope your mommy is doing well and a big XO to her from me!! ❤

  24. I have a friend that has a sister in Florida (might even be Miami) that is single & she went ahead and had a baby, via sperm donor. Funny thing is, she’s a dentist too. So Karent, what are you waiting for???

    • Plus, she’s Hispanic, and did this at least 10 years ago, maybe more. I thought it was very wise & brave of her. Most of her sisters were married & having babies at the time. You don’t have to be married to have a child, just able to give the kid a decent home & if you can afford it, why not. She’s a good mom too.

      Sometimes I think if everyone who wants a family would adopt, there would sure be lots of happy kids in the world. My only regret is that we didn’t adopt more kids! 🙂

    • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

      Good Point!

  25. sparklemuffy says:

    Wow on the exclusives—go NMD go— thanks for all of the other blogs as well. Is anyone watching the new season of ” The Hour” ? (On BBC) For some reason I thought it was a mini-series last round. Season 2 just started and it is excellent.

  26. Jill I’ve been so intrigued by your daughter’s escapade in 1st grade. It reminded me of all the times I got involved in my son’s dust ups. Well it all stopped after 9th grade, due mostly to me wisely deciding it was time he fixed his own scrapes. Or he just stopped telling me things lol. I always told him he had my full permission to beat the crap out of any bully, but especially the ones that went after kids with physical issues (in wheelchairs, facial deformities etc.) or kids that were getting bullied because they were a from a different ethnicity. There was one kid, who had trouble socializing (early on, I think this was 5th grade) and I asked my son ( SR ) to be his friend. Well, this kid loved my son and a few years later, in junior high, he became a little annoying. By then SR was in football, and wanted to sit with his football buddies at lunchtime. Wouldn’t you know SR hauled off and punched the poor kid….it was painful because we knew the parents. So SR went over to this boy’s house with my husband to apologize. After that, things were ok & SR learned that he shouldn’t use a punch to let someone know he didn’t want to sit with him at lunch.

    The worst time was in 9th grade when SR tried to get involved with his best buddy’s cast off girlfriend. The gf really just wanted intel on her crush, and was using SR to get the info. SR thought maybe he could date this girl, so it became a mess. His best buddy decided to drop SR cold. He got all their friends to drop SR. It was terrible. Suddenly he wanted to move, get out of this town, anything but go to school & have all his former best friends no longer speaking to him. I found it incredible that his best friend would do this, and get everyone else to do it too. Who knew boys could be that cruel? So the moms of the boys involved, and I (we are all friends too) tried to get the boys to relent. No way. I explained to SR that this was actually good for him. You shouldn’t tell some girl about all the stuff your best buddy is doing (like what other girls he was after). And, that if his best friends did this to him, maybe he really wasn’t meant to be buddies with them after all. A real friend would not put you thru this much pain. SR had other friends and spent more time with them. He handled it, and when his former bff came back & asked forgiveness after several months, of course SR forgave him. It was quite an experience, SR learned a lot. Now they are best buddies again, years later all forgotten. SR learned at a young age that girls can sure get you in a lot of trouble!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Bluesky-I have a 12 year old daughter and she has never had any sort of problem in school-academically or socially. She is smart and some how very secure with her “nerdiness”(I use this term affectionately). She has friends and she goes to sleep-overs and parties but it is not the end of the world to her if she is not included. My Maggie….she is gonna give me a run for my money!! School is about friends and status(even though she doesn’t know what that means) and fashion!!! For her to be able to be friends with someone is a complete social injustice to her. I think Im going to find myself involved in a few “dust-ups” over these next few years…..
      I love the SR went to the kids house to apologize-kids get into crap all the time. It’s sad that he hit the kids but it is a lesson in the end that he learned the hard way-same with his buddy and the girl…”bro’s before”…(you finish the expression-I dont want to offend anyone)

      • OMG Jill they say that “bro” thing all the time, at least they did in hs. It’s so cute to see these kids grow up, they are adorable, then all of the sudden, they are so handsome and tall. It was fun seeing them go off to prom, and now college.

        SR was pushed to the limit by that kid, sorry to say. I still feel terrible for the kid that had the social issues. He was physically pushing SR, trying to be his bff, but SR really wanted to sit with his football buddies (they played together all thru JH & HS). I just wish SR would have had the maturity to still be friends with him, and not have had that falling out. I’m always rooting for the under dog. If I hadn’t asked SR to be kind to this kid (I was class mom in 5th grade….they were in the same class) maybe the punch would have never happened. We had lots of parties in 5th grade, which I organized, and the parents could attend if they wanted to. It was fun, and that’s how I got to know the parents. I never was a “cool” kid ever, just a major band nerd and academic type. SR used to tell me, “Mom, I make you cool” and you know what, it was true! He was a popular kid all thru school.

        Just wait Jill, the parties get intense. I can’t believe it, but lots of parents have parties at home, and let the kids drink. Some kids are in 10th grade and start attending these parties. He’s got lots of friends that are now seniors. I’m hoping he doesn’t get invited to prom (he went in 11th & 12th grade) but it could happen. I don’t like after prom, when the kids rent a place for the weekend. What ever happened to school dances? Since they don’t have those anymore, all the kids have are prom & private house parties. Sad for them. When I was in hs, the drinking age was 18. We were going to bars & dances all the time. So that’s why I don’t get too upset, and really I do feel sorry that the kids have so little to do. I guess that’s why they all went to the mall at midnight for Black Friday, it was somewhere to go & hang out.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Jill and blue sky , your kids sound great!!

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I know. They really do.

      • Your kids are awesome too LL! How are they doing? Was your son ok after the storm, or did he lose power too? He must have some stories from that experience. They really do grow up too fast. I still remember SR coming home from pre-school, crying about how Rebecca wouldn’t hold his hand. SR adored her, but she had someone else that she always lined up with at school, when they went out/in for recess. Too cute! 🙂

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Thanks Bluey! well, he never lost power or water… we still can’t believe it. When their neighborhood was told not to evacuate they stressed that their area would most likely be spared. Something about the geographical location of that part of Brooklyn. We were all Very thankful. Oh that son of yours, quite the ladies man from a young age. When my son was in pre-k, I asked him if he wanted to give a flower to anyone in his class for valentine’s day. I said he could get one for anyone he really really liked a lot. He said, I want one for Bianca and one for Donnie. Donnie’s mom didn’t appreciate that. They were only four years old. Donnie told him “my mom said boys can’t love each other like that.” hahahahaha!! I was dying!! My son was always super smart and he asked me why…I didn’t know what else to say…so I blurted out that the government of the State of Texas didn’t recognize same sex marriages, yet. He got really quiet and said “Well, that doesn’t seem fair!! Does it?.” (with a slight lisp) I agreed that it wasn’t fair. And that was it. I wondered if he would be gay or bisexual since he gave Bianca a rose, too. But my husband said, he’s four years old, he’s not sexual, yet. LOL!!! I’ve since learned that most of us do know from an early age if we’re hetero or not. But it’s a cute story. As far as I know he’s hetero, by the way. But it wouldn’t have mattered to me if he hadn’t been.

          • djprincessc says:

            Lainey I wanted to ask you on the other post about the Nicki Minaj thing. You said your niece was it? Doesn’t like her because young girls follow her? Good for her, like i’ve said I listen to a lot of hip-hop and it is vulgar but at the same time a lot of kids listen to it too and its not good for the. Google Nicki Minaj Beez in the Trap on youtube and then you’ll see what I mean. Its one thing if people around my age see or listen to that but the young kids?? Makes me nervous. lol.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              dj – my 21 y.o. daughter does not like nicki because her little 13 y.o. cousin idolizes nicki minaj. She thinks Nicki is getting rich while saying and glorifying things that are harmful to young girls. My daughter is super liberal, too. But since it’s her “baby” cousin. She’s concerned.

          • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

            VERY cute story. It made me LOL (Your Husband: “He’s 4 years old! He’s not sexual yet!”). Also, with regard to your son’s response to your answer about the State of TX….”Out of the mouths of babes!”

            I love kids, but it was not in God’s plan for me to have any. *Shrug*

            I do enjoy the ones I come across, however. At my last firm, the receptionist had a little boy that was just the CUTEST thing. He was African-American, with the prettiest brown skin, and the deepest dimples and a little gap in his teeth. He was short for his age, but he was VERY…..Hmmmm…..how shall I put this? FLUFFY (which is what my Granny used to call me when I went through my chubby stage).

            ….Anyhoo, she sometimes had to bring him to the office, and he and I just fell in love on sight. He would immediately come to my office and sit there and color. He would also open my file cabinets and desk drawers and dig around. In one of my desk drawers, I kept extra makeup, stockings, an extra comb, an extra brush, etc.

            Well, if he wasn’t coloring, he wanted to comb my hair, and I would LET him. One day, he asked me if he could comb my hair and PUT some makeup on me. Because it was near the end of the day, and I did not have anywhere but home to go after work, I told him he could.

            I walked out of my office with a SIDE BUN, looking like I’d had my makeup done by….a CLOWN!!

            Well, one day, he came to my office — as usual — and asked me if he could talk to me about something. I said, “Sure!” He said, “Well, tomorrow is Valentine’s Day, and I like everybody except for 2 boys and this 1 girl who pick on me because I’m fat.” I said, “You are NOT fat! You are FLUFFY and BEAUTIFUL! They’re only picking on you because they are JEALOUS!”

            He said, “Well, I was wondering if I should give them Valentine’s and candy like I plan to give everyone else. My Mom said that I should ignore the mean things they say to me and give them a Valentine and candy like I will be giving to everybody in the class. What do YOU think, Miss Detox?”

            I said, “Well, of course, I think you should listen to your Mommy, but if it were ME, I wouldn’t give those mean ol’ suckers a DARNED thing! They would get NO Valentine and NO candy, and if they asked me why they didn’t get one like everybody else, I’d tell them it’s because they are mean, and they can SHOVE it!!”

            He said, “O.K. I will listen to my Mommy.”

            So, his Mom, the next day, thanked me for telling him to listen to her.

            Well, about a week later, he comes strolling into my office, and I asked him how Valentine’s Day went. He said, “It was fun. I got all kinds of stuff. I didn’t give ANYthing to those mean boys and that mean girl that are always calling me fat, though!”

            I said, “But your Mommy told me you did!”

            He smiled and said, “Miss Detox….*Sigh*…..I LIED and just TOLD her that. I liked YOUR idea MUCH better!!”

            I see why God decided it would be better for me to NOT have any children. *Shrug*

            I miss that kid!

            • djprincessc says:

              That story makes me sad!!!!! Why did you tell it?!?!?!? Now I am gonna be wondering how the chubby baby is and if he’s happy!!! 😦

              You really wont have just one kid? Even adopt? Just steal some sperm or something!! Totally JK!! ❤

              • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

                Oh, not to worry! Last I heard, my little boyfriend had 3 (Count ’em….1….2….3) girlfriends, even though he was still a bit fluffy.

                That kid was a charmer.

                Oh, and he could also DANCE like nobody’s business. For someone so FLUFFY, he was surprisingly light on his feet. Sometimes I would close my office door and make him dance for me near my desk as I turned my radio up just a little.

                He is doing JUST…..FINE (with his li’l CUTE self), last I heard! 😉

                I love kids, but I devoted so much time to my career that, at the age of 42, I think I missed that boat. Also, I would not have been able to work the way I used to work in a law firm with a child. The ONLY way that would have been possible is if I would have been married to a man with enough means to provide me with a LOT of help. Also, I know myself….one look at that kid, and I would have probably said “Bye Bye” to my career.

                Being a single woman with Student Loans and other bills that I pay ALL BY MYSELF….I now cannot afford it. By the time I get back to that stage, I’ll probably be older than I am now and just too tired. *Shrug* Who knows, though? Maybe I’ll get a boyfriend/man with some kids I can be around and enjoy.

                Time (and God) will tell!

            • Orson says:

              Detox, this is an example why it’s much more fun being an uncle or an aunt. Doesn’t matter if there’s a blood relation or not.

  27. Lulu says:

    Thank you from Mr Lulu and I for all the wonderful comments!!! Mr Lulu surprised me with the beautiful words he wrote!!! A little background I used to watch Days of our Lives till it got repetitive and boring. He happened to watch funny eyebrow/Marlena marriage with me. I’m happy Couple’s therapy is OVER!! I wouldn’t have minded it if Dorkey wasn’t there. Everyone else was fine.

    • lovemamaearth says:

      (((( Lulu & Mr )))) ✬♡✬ Ł☮℣€ ❥ to you both.

    • Nancy says:

      LuLu I was watching Couples’s therapy the other day when mu husband walked by.
      Courtney was on and I asked my husband how he would feel if he had to look at that
      (Courtney) all day long. He looked at the TV and then back at me and said…
      “Is this a trick question?” IF I could have picked up the TV I would have thrown it at him. LOL

    • TexasTart says:

      Lulu – I didn’t watch Couples Therapy, but saw the Days reference Mr Lulu made and laughed – and laughed. They brought back Marlena & the acting eyebrows to the show a while back, so ya’ll haven’t missed much, ha ha! Real sweet what your man said about you…he’s a keeper! 😉

  28. boston02127 says:

    Jacqueline’s tweet~~~~Hey all! @chris_laurita @CarolineManzo @AlbieManzo & I will b in CA Walgreens on Hollywood&Vine 10am-12pm 2morrow w/ @blkbeverages Hope2C U
    …………….
    I wonder how much it cost for 4 people to fly from NJ to CA, stay in a hotel, eat, etc. They’re going to be at Walgreens for for 2 hours? Walgreens??? Nothing against Walgreens but it’s sort of a pick up tampons type store.

    Is black water doing that well?

  29. djprincessc says:

    Very Very Very random, but have anyone of you or anyones kids/teenagers/young adults every watched this teen soap opera on the Teen Nick channel called “Hollywood Heights”?? I LOVE LOVE LOVE this show. Its only one season and I found it by accident this past July and have been hooked since. Its sad to me they didnt make a second season, its rare that I ever watch shows like this but this really got my heart! lol.

    • somehow I missed that one, sorry dj

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      dj-I just asked my 12 year old if she watched…she laughed and said “Oh mom-stick with those Housewives…”….I guess she is telling me Im too old for “her” shows….little brat!!!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I’ll have to check it out…it’s not like I don’t have more than my fair share of shows on dvr waiting to be viewed. haha!!

    • djprincessc says:

      I’m probably too old for it but I saw on their facebook page that a lot of people from ALL ages fell in love with the show. Its about this girl Loren who is in love with this rockstar Eddie Duran. She enters his music contest and her whole life changes. Theres a lot more to it then that but I don’t want to spoil it for anyone in case you guys might watch it.

      I remember I caught it on the 4th of July flipping channels and left it there, I was like with? This is so cheesy…well I ate my words bc I was hooked after that episode. lol. It used to be on Nickelodeon, and then got moved to Teen Nick which is why I think the ratings went down, I know a lot of people were complaining about NOT having Teen Nick. Anyways its romantic, cheesy, soap-opera-y and the guys on it are SO hott!! Carlos Ponce plays Eddie Durans dad! lol.

  30. I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

    This is in response to djprincess and Lainey regarding the Mariah Carey, the Nikki Minaj feud and NiKki Minaj in general. My post would have been too “skinny” if I would have responded up above.

    So, if you don’t want to read it, just SCROLL on by. You won’t hurt my feelings…..AT ALL!!

    Nikki seems like she is totally full of herself, and she has a real problem respecting and being nice to women who came before her and paved her way, so to speak. For instance, she has been VERY nasty to Li’l Kim, and their feud has gone on for YEARS. Before there was a “Nikki,” there was a “Li’l Kim,” and Nikki disregards that and acts like she re-invented the frickin’ wheel.

    I liked some of Nikki’s stuff at first, but then she just started to become too gimmicky and attention-seeking, like Lady Gaga. The DIFFERENCE between Lady Gaga and Nikki, however, is that Gaga can decide to STOP with all of the gimmicks and antics and simply sit down at the piano and play and sing her ass off.

    In short, Lady Gaga has TRUE TALENT.

    Nikki….Ummm….not so much — DEFINITELY not as much as she THINKS she has. I mean MC Lyte didn’t have to put on multi-colored wigs and make weird facial expressions and get ass injections and constantly SHOW her ass and tits to SPIT rhymes! All she had to do was wear a T-shirt and jeans, and she could blow Nikki’s ass right outta the water without even breaking a SWEAT — and without having to OBJECTIFY herself the way Nikki ALWAYS does!!

    And, on Nikki’s show (which I have managed to watch, a couple of episodes, at least), she takes herself SOOOOOO seriously. She acts like she is curing cancer, and I don’t like the way she talks to some of her staff members.

    Nikki and Mariah are not EVEN in the same LEAGUE. Say what you will about her, but Mariah IS a LEGEND. And you’re right, dj, Mariah WAS gracious enough to even do a song with Nikki in the past. Yet, Nikki wants to get on “Idol” and act the FOOL (which, as an African-American, I found QUITE embarrassing) just because she is irritated by some of Mariah Carey’s ALLEGEDLY passive-aggressive negative comments toward her?

    Oh, no Ma’am!! Nikki should have had a private talk with Mariah so they could work out their differences and “keep it movin'” — NOT show her ass while sitting on the Panel, scaring poor Keith Urban to DEATH (I mean, I KNOW Nicole Kidman does not do things like that at home. He probably wanted to run away while Nikkie was acting like she was losin’ her everlovin’ mind)!!

    On her show, Nikki claimed that Mariah was upset that Nikki was on the Panel because she wanted to be the ONLY woman on the panel and not have to share to spotlight with another woman. She ALSO claimed that Mariah’s problem was that she met her “match” in Nikki.

    I was looking at my t.v. when she was saying that and thinking, “Bitch, PUH-LEEEEZE!!! Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston performed a duet together YEARS ago and got along WONDERFULLY! In fact, they remained lifelong friends and ALWAYS spoke VERY highly of one another. If anything, Mariah spoke as if she was a little bit in AWE of Whitney and just so grateful to be in Whitney’s presence” (and this was AFTER Mariah had already had SEVERAL hits, and the media was calling her the “new Whitney” and trying to drum up some type of rivalry between the two of them. Whitney and Mariah did NOT fall for it; worked together; and always praised each other).

    So, just HOW in the HELL would Mariah be UNABLE to share the spotlight with another woman when she has ALREADY shared it with another LEGEND (Whitney, God rest her soul)??!!! I mean, is Niki actually DELUSIONAL enough to think that Mariah would be unable to share the spotlight with Niki’s TRIFLIN’ ASS when she’s already shared it with WHITNEY??!!

    Girl, BYE!!!

    Also, just HOW in the HELL does Nikki consider Mariah being ‘intimidated’ by her because she met her match in ghetto-a*s, trashy, ‘I just really GOT in this GAME’ Nikki Minaj??!!

    AGAIN….Girl, BYE!!

    THEN, Nikki got upset because Barbara Walters called Mariah to get her side of the story, and Mariah told Barbara that a member of the crew heard Nikki say, “If I had a GUN, I would SHOOT that Bitch!” about Mariah so Mariah, in response, beefed up her security.

    Nikki, on her show, says, “Oh, so I wasn’t good enough for Barbara Walters to call ME and get MY side? Is it because I am a BLACK rapper? So, she will just ignore the little BLACK Girl and believe everything Mariah has to say, right? Oh, o.k.! Hmmmph!!”

    Then, I looked at my t.v. and thought, “Ummmm…..Nikki…..AGAIN, you seem to have a problem respecting your elders and LEGENDS. Barbara Walters does not call YOU!! YOU call Barbara Walters if you want to get your side out. Mariah and Barbara have also been personal friends for years. And, what’s up with all of this, ‘It’s because I’m Black’ mess!! Mariah Carey is considered by MANY people to be BLACK TOO. So what in the HELL are you talking about??!! You sound straight CRAZY!!”

    AGAIN…..Girl, BYE!!

    Nikki needs to have a whole NEW ORLEANS SUPERDOME STADIUM set of SEATS!!!

    That attitude and overestimation of her talent will NOT get her very far if she keeps that foolishness up.

    Mariah intimidated by Nikki and having “met her match” in Nikki.

    AS IF!!!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      love your dissertation…as always

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        Thanks, Lainey. I just wrote YOU a dissertation (See above) on why I would be a horrible Mother (and how this is the reason God decided kids were not in his plan for me. Keep in mind that I am speaking a bit “tongue-in-cheek”!).

        • LaineyLainey says:

          That was such a cute story. The fact that you walked out with a clown face just to make him happy is proof that you would make a great mom. But you know, if it’s not meant to be, it proves you have a nurturing soul and would make a wonderful auntie, friend, teacher, etc.

    • 30 years from now it will be “Nikki who??” but Mariah Carey will still be a star. Spot on, Detox. After Nikki’s antics, I don’t like her at all. She is a real dumbass.

    • djprincessc says:

      Detox, just when I thought I couldn’t love you any more you write this. lol. Nicki’s chip comes from her being the only female on Young Money, the only thing with that is that if you don’t follow hip hop, you have NO clue who or what Young Money is. If I ask my dad, “Dad, who’s Young Money”? He’d be like “huh”?? “what does that mean”? Now if I ask my dad, “Dad who is Mariah Carey”? He would be look at me like I was crazy bc he very well knows who Miss Mimi is!!

      When the season for AI starts I am making a Team Mariah shirt and you can have one too! 🙂

      • Nancy says:

        I want one!!!!! lol

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        O.K. I want mine to be red (because I look good in that color) with some GLITTER (in honor of Mariah’s over-the-top diva-ness…..and that BOMB of a movie she made years ago. I forgave her for that, though. How could I NOT forgive, MIMI??!! Unless she and Nick divorce, and she starts pulling Halle Berry-mess to keep him away from his kids or she SHOOTS someone…..I can basically forgive Mariah damned near anything. “Mariah….you on FIRE!!).

    • Putchka says:

      I used to like this site. It’s become a ranting place lately. Maybe that’s why some people are gone. I know I’ll get some kickback for this but it used to be a fun gossip site. Now, not so much. NMD does a great job. I think some people should lighten up a bit though, cause other’s get kind of bored..

      • Nancy says:

        May I ask who was ranting? I think it’s been a really nice blog/posts today.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Putchka – your rant is well received and respected.. But like I used to tell my kids, if you’re bored, then maybe YOU need to say or do something interesting. I would love to read more comments from you, so I hope you don’t go away. Oh darn, there I go again. But seriously, Sorry if I’ve contributed to your bored state. Ironically, I found YOUR rant above quite interesting.

        • Beckygrey says:

          I really like you Lainey. You are very calming in you words and I think you must be a very good mother. When I grow up I want to be just like you!
          On another note, I am not as “nurturing” as a lot of the posters on here. I skip most of the “fluff”, the shoot outs to each other and knowing a lot about each other. Lynn comment that her site was more of a family type blog, where some of the posters have met for lunch and socialize through this site.
          I think that you can get from this blog whatever you’re willing to give,

      • djprincessc says:

        Can you tell us kindly then what you think we should be talking about? I’m seriously asking since Miami was last night and we have no housewife show to gossip about today beside Miami last night. I did post about Kim not paying her wedding bill though. So again I wanna know what you mean.

      • I Need A Housewives' Detox Program says:

        I agree with you that NMD does a great job.

        No offense, Putchka, but there is always the SCROLL button. Different people like to talk/rant about different things. I think it was Mel (BTW, where has Mel been lately? I miss her) who said that this blog is like a cocktail party where people move around to different groups that are chatting about different things and decide to chat with the group that’s chatting about something of interest to THEM.

        If a person’s (or persons’) comment(s) are of no interest to you, then don’t read them. It’s that simple.

        I do hope you stay and enjoy the blog, though.

  31. Lainey, just saw your post about your son being ok during & after the storm. Thank goodness, that was a real blessing that they never lost water or power.

    About kids knowing if they are hetero or not, it’s so true. I used to love teasing the boys. Remember that movie with the line “you know how I know you’re gay” I think it was in an American Pie movie. So I used to do that to the boys, whenever they were in the car and I was driving them somewhere. Haha it was fun torturing them. Here’s an example: “So you know how I know you’re gay Anthony, because you have hair on your nuckles.” (Anthony immediately checks his knuckles lol). ” Oh and Ant, that confirms it – you looked!” The cutest thing happened when one year, some of the boys decided to dress up as girls for Halloween. SR wore a coconut bra & cute skirt with multi-colored paper, then he also had this pink tutu and well, you get the idea. One of the brawniest guys borrowed a sexy nurse outfit that year. It was hilarious! They went to a party dressed up like that too. Last year they were firemen. Anything to show off their abs! They wore the pants, suspenders, boots & the firemen hat. They could have made some $ stripping lol, they looked that good!

    Kids are more ok about being gay these days, thank goodness. We have come a long way with equality, but there’s still more to do. I like that practically every tv show has gays on it. More like real life!

    SR just got home from his job at Foot Locker. He now owns like 20 pairs of shoes. He just showed me his new ones. Basketball shoes, black, with raspberry on the soles, shoe laces and accents. Very stylish! As far as I know, he still likes girls tho. 🙂

  32. Nancy says:

    WHAT HAPPENED? OK WHO SCREWED UP?

  33. cdnfillie58 says:

    Hi all, sorry I was absent from this site and missed the birthday wishes…thank you all. My granddaughter (we share the same birthday) and i had the best time. She got a new hair colour ,blonde to brunette, had dinner and watched Breaking Dawn2…our favorite series. I am truly blessed…now off to catch up on here… Chat later

  34. Pghemtchick says:

    Hiyas. I’m late as per my new normal it seems. Hope all are well.

    If it hasn’t been mentioned Tanara went gown shopping. One can only assume it was taped since all (?) of the women were there-Tam, Vicki, Lari, Alexis, Heather, and Gretchen. Check out Mark Zunino’s Twitter:

    @Mark_Zunino: @TamraBarney So much fun with you today! Can’t wait to continue the story!! See you very soon! XO

    @Mark_Zunino: @HeatherDubrow So great to meet you today! Looking forward to getting together again very soon! XO

    @Mark_Zunino: @vgunvalson What a pleasure to meet you today! Can’t wait to create something special for you! Speak with you soon!

    @Mark_Zunino: @LaurifromRHOC Great to meet you today! I think the dress will be perfect for you in black! We’ll chat soon!

    @Mark_Zunino: @AlexisBellino Thanks for visiting today! Looking forward to seeing you again very soon!

    @Mark_Zunino: @GretchenRossi Sorry you had to leave so soon today but it was wonderful to meet you! Hope to see you again soon!

    • Pghemtchick says:

      well I guess confirmation cameras were following:
      @vgunvalson: Filming with Tamra in LA and the other ladies – it’s gonna be a long day, but it is going to be fun.

      Then a few hours ago:
      @vgunvalson: Brutal day….can’t wait to go to sleep to hopefully not feel the pain anymore

  35. Good Morning – Have we got ourselves a new NJ Housewife?
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  36. LoveMamaEarth says:

    I know some watch Suvivor among others. I found this interesting.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/magazine/the-life-lessons-hidden-in-reality-tv.html?hp&_r=1&

    === In the first minutes of the first show, Richard Hatch, a corporate trainer whose livelihood revolved around the study of successful team building, was already failing at team building. He couldn’t handle not being in control of everyone. He sat on a downed tree stump and whined about how his group wouldn’t let him lead them in team-building exercises. The thing was, the rest of the tribe was already going ahead and acting as a team by preparing the camp. They were doing instead of talking, but Rich was an expert in talking, and it made him mental that his skills weren’t the ones bowling the others over.

    And here’s the crux of the show: Hatch knew he had a problem with cockiness because he talked about it to the camera, saying, “That’s the kind of thing that I really gotta keep under wraps.” Yet he failed immediately. (Though to be fair, he was the show’s first winner.) Same with Rudy, a former member of the Navy SEALs who knew that the younger people making up a majority of his tribe weren’t going to understand his conservatism or his age. Right away he said, “I gotta fit in — not them.” And then he proceeded to behave like the stodgy codger he was.

    This happens over and over again on the show, season after season, regardless of contestants’ professions, bank accounts or, most interesting, intelligence levels. Russell Hantz, arguably one of the wiliest players ever, still couldn’t figure out that in order to win, he needed to pretend to be humble for five minutes during his final speech. === &
    At first my boyfriend — who’s actually my fiancé, except I can’t stomach that word — asked, “How can you sit through marathons of a show about trying on barely different white dresses?” but then he watched a couple of episodes, and he saw that “Dress” isn’t about dresses. The wedding gowns function pretty much like the ocean views on “Survivor”; they’re a fancy background. The show is about the trouble with family (and here I’m including more symbolic families like groups of friends and sorority sisters), which is that psychological entanglement can keep loved ones from being able to separate their desires from your own. === &
    They can’t stop seeing the girl they’ve always known until she has been put into a full-blown costume. And in these moments I am presented with a metaphor for familial relationships so powerful I always end up yelling at the TV as if it holds all my relatives.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Thanks for that walk down memory lane. Who could ever forget Richard Hatch and season 1. We used to rush home to watch it.

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