Tamra Barney’s Bachelorette Party / Mob Wives Premiere Party Fiasco / Dance Moms

Another Bachelorette Party for Tamra Barney and Other News by NoMoreDrama

According to Tamra Barney’s facebook page, she’s having another Bachelorette party, and you can sign up to go for $100 a ticket.  If there are any Tamra fans on this site living in the Westchester, NY area, this might be the event for you.  It includes food, an open bar, and a gift bag.  Details from the event page are below.  If anyone does go, please let us know how it went.

tamra barney and eddie“On February 27th, NoMa Social in New Rochelle will be hosting Tamra Barney’s bachelorette party.Come celebrate with Tamra’s bachelorette party with us before Tamra gets married to our fave Eddie Judge!  This will be the first time any Orange County housewife appears in Westchester, NY.  NoMa Social will be hosting this event with a 3 hour of endless mediterranean tapas, and open bar including Cuca Fresca specialty drinks!  Gift bags & party favors will be given to all attendees.

Love by Bella Fiora & Love Shoes will be hosting a fashion show including the launch of Very Lovely Soles.”

Sponsorships packages are available by contacting Robyn@illuminationpr.com

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Trouble at the Mob Wives Premiere?  According to RadarOnline, Mobwife Karen Gravano was furious at the venue and management that arranged for the Premiere party because they didn’t want any publicity relating to urban or hip-hop culture.  Calling it racism, Gravano said:  “I’m trying to be the better person and not flip out on anyone but I was about to smash the b*tch in the face with her f**king bowling ball! I will never patronize that place nor would I recommend it to anyone that I know. The management and staff was rude, racists and disrespectful.”

What set off the disagreement was a series of emails the management sent to several guests saying they’d appreciate it if they didn’t write about the event on their websites or magazines, which featured HipHop Culture.  According to management: “The MOB Wives event was set up as barter for positive press related to High Fashion, NYC Society and Gossip. We were specific when designing the barter as to which press outlets would receive the release, and what the story angle should be. The night was designed to be about hosts and guests having fun and relaxing at an upscale venue, for the premiere of a new Season of the hit reality show. Any other requested press angles, relating to attendees other than the 3 hosts, or alternate press outlets were respectfully declined.”

It sounds a little complicated, and I don’t see how it is racism to control press coverage – but I suppose it was all in how they acted towards the guests.

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Kim and Kyle Richards – Stars in Danger

Kim and Kyle Richards, along with a group of other ‘stars’ are debuting on a new show on Fox – Stars in Danger.  The ‘stars’ learn how to dive and face their fears.  Kim and Kyle gave in interesting interview to the Huffington Post about why they signed up for the show, how it affected their relationship, and some other topics.  Kyle tweeted this photo of the pair.  Below is a summary of their interview.

kyle and kim diving

Why they signed up:  Kyle – no clue; Kim – to spend quality time with Kyle

Did it help their relationship: yes

Are they afraid of heights:  Kyle – yes; Kim – yes but she didn’t realize it

And here are a few answers to questions about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills:

Do you find that strange that the main drama on the show is about a topic people don’t know about (Adrienne’s secret)?
Kyle: “Yeah, it’s difficult for us. I defended Adrienne and then the audience doesn’t exactly know what happens. They don’t have a complete picture, which doesn’t do Adrienne or those of us who defended her any service because the audience doesn’t know.”

Will we get more clues as the season goes along?
Kyle: “I’m not sure. That hasn’t obviously been our choice. When it was first said, I thought, “Please, that shouldn’t be out there. No one should talk about this.” I thought once it was, at least let’s be honest so people can see exactly what’s going on. That wasn’t ultimately our choice.”

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Lisa Vanderpump Gobsmacked

Lisa tweeted this photo with the following tweet:  “I have to admit when Alec Baldwin jumped out of his car to say hi,cuddled Giggy and did a picture  #gobsmacked.”  Then she had to explain what gobsmacked means (heh) “Sorry lost in translation……gobsmacked = blown away”  Is that a word you don’t use in this country?  We definitely used it in Canada when I was growing up.  I’m glad to hear Alec is a fan of Lisa and Giggy.

Lisa also sent this tweet to Amy Phillips, who did a spot-on impression of Lisa on WWHL. “@AmyPhillips_it was too good…maybe you could move in for a few days,he wouldn’t know the difference..I could do with a break:)”

lisa vanderpump alec baldwin

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Bethenny Update.  Bethenny will be on Ellen today.  According to Ellen’s website: “She’s giving Ellen and her audience some great advice on little changes you can make to help you get the best out of the new year. Plus, she’ll address the news about her personal life that was making headlines throughout the holidays.”

Meanwhile E-Online has a breakdown of the Reality TV Star’s earnings over the last few years.  The Skinnygirl Beam deal brought in around $50 million in 2011, $5-10 million in 2012, and will likely bring in about the same this year.  Last year she was 97th on Forbes Celebrity 100 Chart.

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Alex McCord, Ramona Singer, and Aviva Drescher are all walking the runway at the  “The Reality of Fashion; The Reality of AIDS,” fashion show, which will take place during New York Fashion Week in Manhattan.  Who can forget the last time Alex and Ramona walked the runway together – at the Brooklyn fashion show, with Jill Z in the audience making snide comments, and Ramona looking about as awkward as a person could get on the runway.  I can only hope the cameras are there to capture Ramona – because she is endlessly entertaining.

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Dance Moms – Season Three Episode 2

By: adelaidesmommy

I stalked the gossip sites for any secrets to share on Dance Moms, but there wasn’t much out there. However, I did find Chloe & Maddie’s jewelry line. For those that are interested, enjoy: www.theglitzygirl.com/.

Out With the Old, in With the New

It’s time to go back to Pittsburgh and ALDC. In the parking lot, Holly, Christi, Melissa, and Jill (in horrible pants) gather to discuss the current situation with Kelly. In a talking head (TH), Christi says that the moms are at their breaking point because they are a team – and that team includes Kelly. According to her, Abby is saying the team includes Shelly and that’s not what the other moms signed up for. Huh? Look – I like Kelly, Brooke, and Paige (B&P), but I’m pretty sure they walked away and didn’t come back. Abby didn’t kick them out, so I am very confused at this point. My home girl Christi needs to start making sense if I’m going to have her back this season.

Christi tells the other moms that’s it’s up to them to convince Kelly that she belongs with the team. In TH, Holly comments that the team isn’t the same without Kelly and B&P and the moms are going to take a stand for what’s right. They all want the trio back. I agree about wanting them back. I love B&P – especially Paigers, so darn cute.

They walk into ALDC, ignore ALM sitting at the front desk, and head into the ladies room. ALM immediately senses something is up. In the ladies room, the moms talk about being in agreement about a plan. In her TH, Melissa shares the plan. The moms are going to sit silent, not participate in pyramid, and have a stand-off until Kelly is back. Somehow I’m thinking silent moms aren’t going to make ALM mad…. Only happy.

They sit in the lobby with their arms folded, no talking, just staring at their cell phones. ALM asks if they’ve recovered from their weekend. I’m tempted to call them childish, but am reminded that I sometimes do this to my husband when I’m mad. Oops. In her TH, ALM says she was trying to be polite and have a conversation and no one is talking. She can’t figure out what is going on.

ALM gets up and tries to find the girls. They are nowhere to be found. When she returns to the front desk, the moms are gone as well. ALM dials Melissa and leaves a VM about how she is sacrificing M&M’s dance career for Kelly.

dm Ally_Abby_SoloALM decides to move on and work with the people who are at the studio – i.e. Ally’s solo. Cut to Shelly in a TH where she is shocked the team is gone… so shocked, she uses the word “gone” six times. She heads into the dance studio to ask ALM what happened. ALM says she doesn’t know what’s going on but Melissa is a fool because Maddie needs her and needs to dance. The rest of the girls can go be girl scouts. I thinking I should be shocked at this comment, but after three seasons, I guess I’m desensitized to ALM. Shelly asks if it’s about Kelly. ALM doesn’t answer but asks Ally if the girls said anything to her. Ally nods “no.”

ALM goes back to the front desk to ask again about the moms. No one has heard a word. ALM says we wasted an entire day when we could have been rehearsing. Then – she notices the moms outside in the parking lot. She decides to find out what’s going on.

She asks them what’s going on several times, but they don’t respond. She turns to Holly and pleads with her because she would never be so rude. Agree. Holly is always classy. Holly remains quiet. ALM says she doesn’t understand why they are this upset over one student (Ally) and if they are doing this for Kelly, they are fools. In TH, Christi compares ALM to a T-Rex in Jurassic Park. She keeps shouting, but they’re being quiet and trying not to move. In fact, Melissa is hiding her face behind a Sweet Tarts box. Suddenly, I’m hungry for candy…. But Starburst.

ALM walks off shouting that it’s over and she’s replacing the kids. She tells her staff to get started on finding new kiddos. Then, she calls 911 to report the moms for trespassing. She asks the cops to move them off her lot. Seriously, 911? In what world was that an emergency? What ever happened to just calling the police department? Thanks ALM for wasting the good people of Pittsburgh’s money.

ALM goes through her notes from the previous audition and asks some of the kiddos to join her tomorrow for rehearsal. The cops show up and the moms leave. ALM seems happy and says, “we have a way better group than what we started with.”

Cut to Canton, OH and the apples….. Jill is visiting Cathy. Jill claims she was in the area and decided to stop by and see what’s going on. Um no, Cathy is over two hours from ALDC. I’m pretty sure Jill wasn’t just in the neighborhood. Jill fills Cathy in on what’s going on and says the kids have no place to dance. Cathy asks her if she is there to get Kendall a spot on her team. Jill is noncommittal. Cathy accuses her of being a studio hopper. Jill leaves.

dm New momsCut to ALDC. Ally arrives and immediately works on her solo while waiting for the new team. The new team arrives and ALM is very excited. We meet Bella (10) and her mom, Marcia. And Kaeli (no age) and her mom, Gloria. ALM says another girl is flying in as well. ALM thanks the moms for putting their lives on hold and getting there quickly. In TH, she says they better learn from the other mom’s mistakes.

dm old moms discussing mallMoving to Christi’s house. All the moms are there – even Kelly. Holly comments that ALM was just looking for an excuse to replace them. All the moms agree. Christi says that ALM has been doing this for 32 years, but no one knew her name until their kids danced under it. Kelly says fans will be expecting to see the kids dance this weekend and will get the new kids. Christi says that people go to the competitions to see their kids dance. The moms decide to put together a performance and will advertise it via social media. In TH, Christi says this will send a statement to ALM about the talent that just walked out the door. They decide to let the girls choreograph. They are all excited, but I can’t help but notice Melissa is VERY quiet. And while I’m happy that the girls have gained a huge fan base, I with ALM on this one. Those girls wouldn’t have a fan base without her. She is the real star of Dance Moms….hence, her spinoff. Am I defending ALM? What is happening to me this season?

Back at ALDC, Yvette (Hadley’s mom) from ALM’s Ultimate Dance Competition calls the studio. Yvette owns a dance studio of her own and will be at the same competition this weekend. ALM really can’t be bothered, but feigns excitement. Yvette says Hadley has a solo and there is a group dance.

Cut to Yvette’s house. Yvette expresses worry to Hadley over some of the things ALM said to her. Yvette thinks that once ALM found out she was a dance teacher, she treated Hadley different. And that ALM tried to get to Yvette, through Hadley. Hadley says it’s different going to dance every day because she still has those words in her head, “road kill.” Yvette gives her a pep talk. Hadley is a doll, but this scene looks super scripted.

Back to ALDC, we find out that we’re waiting on Sophia who is apparently better than Maddie. ALM calls her a child prodigy who is a major deal at dance competitions. As she is arriving, ALM tells the other girls,  “She’s gonna waltz in here and be the star, and take over, if you let her.” The new moms in the peanut gallery get angry at this. Where have I seen this before? Sophia is joined by her mom, Jackie, and ALM is so thrilled, she calls her “the new Maddie” to her face. Awkward.

ALM introduces Sophia to the other girls and Jackie joins the moms. As Sophia learns the dance, Jackie asks where all the other moms are. No one knows. Sophia asks ALM to go over a part of the dance and we hear her voice for the first time. I kid you not, she probably has the sweetest voice I’ve ever heard. If my sugar bowl could talk (probably to say “Don’t eat me.”), it would sound like Sophia.

And here comes the very funny quote of the week, brought to you by ALM talking directly to Sophia, “It’s just that voice is killing me. You know. Minnie Mouse has a job. We don’t need another one.”

It’s the next day of rehearsal and all the new girls arrive. Jackie finds out that the other girls didn’t get solos. In TH, ALM says she wants to win, so she gave her “ace in the hole” a solo. They are headed to Dance Expressions in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. ALM lays on the pressure because she is debuting a new ALDC team.

Sophia’s contemporary solo is called My New Reality because it’s about ALM’s new reality. Jackie says it’s because ALM keeps saying “she’s replacing Maddie.” Marcia gets upset about this and wonders why she is there. Gloria tries to keep it cool by wishing Sophia luck. The lyrical group dance is called Cry. In her TH, ALM says it’s about saying goodbye to the old things and moving on. Selfishly, I’m hoping we don’t move on as I have to keep looking up the new mom’s names.

Over at Kelly’s house, the moms tell the girls about the planned performance. They are pumped that they get to choreograph it. At this point, I am starting to think the storyline is scripted because the kids are so happy. Usually, Maddie would be in tears if she thought she couldn’t compete. Something is rotten in Denmark. In TH, Holly says we need to show ALM that we don’t need her, she needs us. The performance will be at a local mall. Christi is pumped about shopping…. This is why I love her. Melissa gets a text message form Shelly about Sophia’s arrival. They decided to ignore it and join the girls downstairs to see what they’ve come up with.

Back at ALDC, ALM informs the moms about Yvette and Hadley and the whole “road kill” comment. She lays on the pressure about how fans will expect to see the original group, so they better be good. ALM says if they win the overall high score, they could be household names.

Cut to the mall. The moms are worried because no one is there. The girls start rehearsing as the moms coach them along.

Hello Ft. Wayne! ALM is excited to debut her new team. She passes Yvette & Hadley in the hall and Yvette asks about her new team. ALM says she “had to put the trash out.” Ally and Sophia practice their solos and ALM lays into Sophia about outshining Hadley, Maddie, and Chloe.

dm Ally_SoloAlly’s lyrical solo is called Forever and a Day and she is dressed in a pink top and skirt. She does an amazing job. ALM is very happy. I think Ally and her mom are very sweet. I feel bad that they were caught in the middle of all this.

Hadley’s contemporary solo is called More and she is dressed in an awful lime green tutu with purple feathers. Why would Yvette put such a pretty girl in that? She does well, but it’s definitely not contemporary – more like Jazz.

Sophia is next – and in her TH, she has a normal voice. What happened to my sugar? She is amazing – probably the best I’ve seen on this show. Now, I get what all the hype is about. Sophia is one hell of a dancer. I kept checking my notes to make sure she was really 10. ALM is insanely happy and wishes Kelly was in the audience to see Sophia perform.

In order to impress ALM, Gloria (Glo) does the unthinkable and tries to enter Kaeli in a solo without ALM’s permission. Does she not watch this show? In the dressing room, Bella and Marcia are upset because they think Kaeli is doing a solo. ALM says if she is, then she’s off the team. Kaeli runs to the lobby to tell her mom to stop. Glo is upset that Marcia would rat on her because she’s the one that introduced Bella to ALM.

Glo rejoins the group and ALM gives her the third degree. Glo says she was trying to enter Kaeli in a solo in case ALM needed it. That’s the best excuse she could come up with? Glo and Marcia get into it. Glo is mad Marcia tattled on her. Marcia didn’t think it was fair and says she’ll never forget this. She respected Glo as a teacher. It’s really not that big of a deal. Yawn. In TH, ALM says the new moms are acting like the old ones and doesn’t understand why she attracts the crazy.

Yvette’s group routine is up first with a Jazz dance called Criminal of Love. They do a really good job – and Hadley stands out the most. Plus, it was nice to see an upbeat number. ALDC is up next and it’s very pretty. ALM says it wasn’t perfect, but it should win.

Award time. Ally gets 2nd place in the Teen Solo category. ALM is livid because Ally’s technique was better. Hadley gets 2nd place in the Elite Junior Solo category while Sophia takes 1st. Well deserved. ALM says Hadley was the road that Sophia drove over.

ALDC gets 2nd place in Junior Small Group category while Yvette takes 1st. ALM is mortified she was beaten and doesn’t think Yvette’s kids deserved to win. Yvette is on “cloud 9.” ALM goes over to hug and congratulate her. Yvette says they make a great team and ALM says “you scare me.”

Cut back to the mall. There are tons of fans in attendance. Christi introduces the girls who thank the fans for coming. Their dance is very cute and the fans go crazy. Holly asks how it was different than performing with ALM. The girls admit no one screamed at them. Christi is proud they did it without ALM. Holly says it was a great day, but it revealed that the girls need discipline and a dance teacher. It wasn’t up to the standards that the moms are used to, so they have a lot to think about. Say, what?

Back to the competition dressing room, Glo is complaining that Ally got 2nd in solo and group. She thinks that impacted everyone else and ALM isn’t happy with 2nd. Shelly ignores her comment and asks the moms to zip it in front of the kids to set a good example. ALM walks in and is very upset about getting 2nd – especially to Yvette. Shelly decides to leave with Ally saying “she wants to give everyone space.” Marcia says that Shelly cracked and displayed her true colors. Or maybe she is just a classy lady who doesn’t want her kid to be a part of the craziness? I’m Team Shelly. ALM says she is disappointed in the group –but thank god for Sophia. She thinks this team is just as disappointing as the old one, so she has some tough decisions to make.

That’s it, friends. What did you think of this week’s episode? Is anyone else slowly switching to ALM’s side? Next week, everyone but Sophia leave the team and the original moms show up to ALDC to talk it over.

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Wednesday Night Lineup, Jan 9th by BB

8PM – Stars in Danger: The High Dive (Fox); I Get That a Lot (CBS); Whitney/Guys with Kids (NBC); The Middle/The Neighbors (ABC); Cousins on Call (HGTV); Amish Mafia (Discovery); My Grandmother’s Ravioli (8:30 Cook); Big Rich Texas (Style)

9PM – People’s Choice Awards 2013 (CBS); Law and Order SVU (NBC); Modern Family/Suborgatory (ABC); Property Brothers (HGTV); Shipping Wars (A&E); Toddlers and Tiaras (TLC); Amish Mafia (Discovery); Full Throttle Saloon (truTV); Super Saver Showdown (OWN); Baggage Battles (Trvl); Border Wars (NatGeo); Ice Cold Killers (ID); Not My Mama’s Meals/Extra Virgin (Cook); Big Rich Atlanta/Kimora House of Fab (Style)

10PM – Top Chef Seattle (Bravo); Chicago Fire (NBC); Nashville (ABC); American Horror Story: Asylum (FX); Washington Heights (MTV); House Hunters (HGTV); Barter Kings (A&E); Cheer Perfection (TLC); Moonshiners (A&E); The Soup/Love You, Mean It (Bravo); Black Gold (truTV); Super Saver Showdown (OWN); American Restoration (History); Fast Foods Gone Gloval (Trvl); Hell on the Highway (NatGeo); Stalked: Someone’s Watching (ID); I Want That (DIY); Stranger Than Nature (NatGeoWild)

11PM – WWHL: Marlon Wayans and Carla Hall (Bravo)

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404 Responses to Tamra Barney’s Bachelorette Party / Mob Wives Premiere Party Fiasco / Dance Moms

  1. TexasTart says:

    Good Morning! Finally getting some rain in Texas, it’s been so long I couldn’t locate all of the rain gear! I hope everyone has a wonderful day! 😀

  2. LaineyLainey says:

    Good morning!!! We are getting some glorious and much needed rain here in our part of the country!!!

  3. LA_Debra says:

    Thank you all so much for your time and effort and great blogs. Great job everyone! ((applause))

  4. Powell says:

    Good morning all. Ana just wanted to say I like how you put color to Shahs. Very funny.

    I was watching GMA and they had a story about stupid Teen Mom Farrah. Someone please take this kid. Farrah is tweezing her 3yr olds eyebrows cause she’s being teased for having a unibrow. OK moms. You mean to tell me that your 3 yr old is at daycare playing in the dirt on the playground & coloring on tables are checking out their playmates eyebrows? This is crazy.

    Now I’m watching Wendy W watching Lisa V. She said she & Paul are in a good place. He apologized to her. She’s sad that A & P divorced.

  5. Powell says:

    Oh. Have a great day. It was in the 50s yesterday. Hoping for the same today.

  6. T-Rex says:

    Good Morning, okay I was up at 4am this morning and watched RHBH again and Vpump Rules:
    1. Why is ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifterLypsMcgee getting a “pass” about stealing another woman’s husband, she started sleeping with him in December of 2011, he claimed they weren’t together his wife claimed her marriage was rock solid in February 2012 and he wasn’t fooling around on her, now the lyingloserbastard claims that yeah he was screwing her but that she didn’t break up his marriage, she claims she was blindsided and devastated that her marriage of 32 years broke up, file this under WTF
    2. LyingLoserBastard was NOT her attorney of record as has been purported previously, very careful wording at the faked setup dinner party between the couples. He consulted to find her an appropriate attorney, he also backed her book deal and was on her book tour when they started fooling around. ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifterLypsMcgee clearly stated that “my attornies” called and the folks suing her offered a settlement, okay not Lyingloserbastard sitting across from me called, her “attorneys” called. In addition I noted that she had to give up her ring, fakebags(which she was still calling her Hermes bags even at that dinner knowing full well they were fakes), and “some cash” which she sad under her breath.
    3. Brandi’s sit-down with CheatScheana interesting to note that Brandi clearly stated that her loserexCandyman can’t act(we all knew that) and was a serial cheater, she also let it slide that he may be cheating again but that she hoped that LeAnn doesn’t divorce him over that. Errrr?!? So the rumors are possible true that CrayCrayRimes had a meltdown after Candyman cheated yet again and spiraled her into rehab.
    4. Something I brought up on the other blog FayKR clearly turned to LisaVpump and stated she called Brandi out because she can’t keep making stuff up and repeating it as truth(Oh and for the record Brandi told the truth, she shouldn’t have but it wasn’t a lie). So that got my fingers a “googling” and I cound 15 separate instances where FayKR made claims about supposed Death Threats and I stopped counting after 15. Well then you lying moron you don’t need to be on national TV if just the mere sight of you on there causes folks to immediately send you Death Threats(which I don’t believe). These PhantomDeathThreats show up at times when FayKR doesn’t want to talk about things in her past, things she lies about in her present, pretty much any time she is called on the carpet about her morally corrupt ways, going back to her drug dealer first husband and throughout all her marriages and also the 2 times she was on this show making an ass of herself. Wolf Cries Much.

    • Powell says:

      T-Rex what are you doing up at 4am? Are you getting your beauty sleep? 🙂 All I can say is Taylor & Faye are lying right before our eyes & if Bravo doesn’t drop them they are crazy. And Faye is even more stupid than I gave her credit for . Each appearance will unveil more of her lies on the blogs & I’m sure the rag mags will be reporting them. I don’t know how she expects to be a reputable interior designer, cough cough, she’s not doing herself any favors procuring future clients. I mean how many rooms in Kyle’s house can she decorate. How many homes of Paris Hilton can she decorate.

      OT speaking of decorating. TMZ showed Petra Ecclestone’s remodeled home, formerly Spelling Manor. OMG she did a beautiful job. She has a 7,000 sq ft closet. Her BF has one side, she has the other. It’s gorgeous. She redid the bowling alley. She doesn’t need to go out to party. I’ve never seen a bowling alley like that. Her living room is spectacular. She removed Candi’s ornate fireplace mantle & it’s now modern. You all have to look at it online.

      • Powell…..it never ceases to amaze me (I don’t know why, LOL!)….how these people can go on Reality TV and think that the public is going to buy their shite and drink their kool-aid. Faye is the worst of the worst! What, exactly, did she expect?!? A fan club and over flowing love for her and her garbage? It is just astounding to me the depths of people’s denial and skewed views of themselves. And, it all, always comes out. Especially with the magnificent and diligent sleuths we have on this blog!! 😀

        BTW – I did see pics of Petra/Candi’s mansion. The makeover is stunning!

        • JustDee says:

          Liars and Cons ALWAYS think they’re smarter than everyone else!

          ::::waves at MarDrag::::

        • trudie says:

          The reason these people can go on these shows and think people will drink their kool-aid is because not everyone reads blogs like this. I was watching RHBH with my daughter the other night, and she was feeling sorry for Taylor. I had to set her straight. She told me I had to get a life!

      • T-Rex says:

        Powell I tried to go back to sleep then I decided to watch the RHBH while I fell back to sleep, then I just started hearing all the Bullshite from this episode and next thing I knew laptop was in hand and “google be thy name”. There was a lot of other stuff I wanted to comment about but by now ya’ll probably sick of the rants on this , LOL!

    • kit9 says:

      There is no way of knowing if Brandi told the truth or not. We don’t even know what she said so we can’t know if she was telling the truth.

      • T-Rex says:

        Kit yes she told the truth LisaVpump and even VileKyle had said that even though it was TRUE she shouldn’t have said it, and they know what was said and they both knew the secret. Not one single person has said she was lying, not one, only that she should not have said it.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          I thought Addy and Paul said that it was a lie. That would be more then a single person, because they were married at the time. I still think it is hard to comment on issues that are still in the speculation mode, with much authority. Because of the edit it would appear to be personal gossip. LOL.

          • T-Rex says:

            CAP, the HoofMaloofs called Brandi a liar at the party, but didn’t say it was a LIE, and since then everyone has come “clean” that it wasn’t a lie, it was a very private matter but not a lie. Like I said VileKyle and LisaVpump have both gone on the record to say that it’s not a lie and that it’s very private and shouldn’t have been shared.

  7. TexasTart says:

    Hmm, that Stars in Danger is tonight, should I tune into that out of curiousity. Or was it curiousity that killed the cat?! 😮

    I can’t believe cover-up Kyle will be in a swimsuit for all to see…maybe I should watch this show on a small screen?! 😉 Regardless of the disrespect for some of her castmates, she can be very silly and a real ham, so maybe that fun side of her brings her to do this…otherwise it’s very surprising either of the sisters signed up for this particular event.

    • BB says:

      I’ll definitely be watching or DVR’ing just for grins and giggles.

    • JustDee says:

      I’m pretty sure this show is why Kyle *allegedly* had Full Body Liposuction.

      • kit9 says:

        No full body liposuciton. We’ve seen Kyle in skin tight cycling gear, top and shorts and lycra workout clothes-again all skin tight. She looks exactly the same in her bathing suit.

  8. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Well well well…Tamra Barney is coming to MY town??? Oh good God what did I ever do to deserve this??I would go just to see how redic she acts in “real life” but I’m not shelling out 100 bucks to see that witch!!!! I have a younger sister, who, for reasons I cant comprehend, likes Tamra-maybe she will go and report back to me.

    • Jill! Good to see you! How are you doing these days? And little Maggie too. Hope all is well!

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Hey Mar-all is well with me and my girls-busy with getting back to school and taking down Christmas decorations!! Hope all is well with you…going over to to do some soul searching on your blog later today-I always find something there that is just what I need!!!

        • So glad to hear it. “Closing down” the holidays is so time consuming! Glad to hear the girls are well. Thanks for your sweet comments about the blog. There is some interesting conversation going on. Jump in! Always love to hear from you! Hugs!

    • cusi77 says:

      That would be fantastic, Jill! I am not fan of OC at all, but to have someone to report how the event went… I would read it for reasons of insanity in my brain!

      Thanks for Blogging Girls!

    • Powell says:

      JNNTJ well tell your sis to tell Tamra we said “Hey Mean Girl”. 🙂

  9. Good Morning! A bit of a wrmer day today before “the big chill” coming this weekend! Gonna hunker in and make my famous beef stew, sink into a blanket, and warm up with a brandy! Already planning! 🙂

    As always….a great blog today. Thanks NMD!
    I am so over hearing about Tammy Sue’s bridal shower and wedding. Bah! Script, script, script. My contempt for Bravo is growing. 😦 Can ya tell? LOL!

    Wishing everyone a great, and swift, Wednesday so we can get closer to the weekend! Hugs and Love to all!

    Wednesday’s “Humor Blog” is up. Have a good, hearty chuckle and I hope it lightens and brightens your day! Enjoy!
    http://fromthedeskofmardrag.wordpress.com/

  10. BB says:

    This is an interesting conversation. Maury is doing a complete flip flop. When Russell/Taylor threatened to sue Camille, that was wrong and he turned them away from his White Party. All of sudden, he’s saying it was OK for them to have done that. What. He talks out of both sides of his mouth, this one. Or did I not hear it correctly? Discuss amongst yourselves.
    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-3/videos/legal-drama-between-adrienne-and-brandi

    • Rebecca says:

      I want to question him on what he thinks of Adrienne’s phony abuse claims.

      • BB says:

        I want to ask them all if they really think it would have helped for Brandi to have picked up the phone and called Adrienne, when Adrienne was already screaming lawsuit at Maury’s “event”? Do you guys think Adrienne would have agreed to meet with Brandi or would have accepted Brandi’s apology?

        • cusi77 says:

          Thanks BB for posting this video. I was thinking the same about Adrienne’s saying friends don’t sue friends” (Hate to agree with LipsMcGee! Augh!) But why the double standards, is what does not make sense! What was wrong for Camille, is fair for Brandi? No, I don’t think that Adrienne would have accepted to meet with Brandi for apologies… That would have put on air something said very personal to Adrienne. Her kids came from out of space? What could be “The big secret” Brandi spreaded!

        • T-Rex says:

          I think that if VileKyle was really “friends” with both of them, she would have invited both the ladies to neutral ground, and let them have some time to rectify the issue. Brandi cannot call HoofMaloof at this time, any attorney with half a brain would have told Brandi not to contact her because of the legal order she was give from HoofMaloof. Murray is an ass, and there is no way he has ever been served a no contact order in real estate, he knows nothing of he talks of in the video. I think Brandi would sincerely apologize for outing the secret, the HoofMaloof probably would appreciate but not accept the apology and that would then be on her, Brandi would have done what everyone is imploring her to do apologize if a neutral party had intervened which I think should have been VileKyle she is the HoofMaloofs only friend on the HW right now.

        • Powell says:

          No way. She would’ve kept calling Brandi names and refused to meet.

      • Powell says:

        When Lisa was on Wendy Williams this morn Wendy asked about the alleged abuse & if police were ever called to the house. Lisa said she never heard anything about it & never saw police.

    • T-Rex says:

      Ah yes here is the difference, ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifterLypsmcgee and her Conhusband didn’t have any money, they all knew that, nor did they have any potential real estate money or connections for Murray. Camille on the other hand did at the time and Murray knew with her impending divorce there might be some real estate for him to sell and to buy for her, and sell for Kelsy. I see this as the same thing with the HoofMaloof and Brandi, brandi is in no where near the real estate bracket as the HoofMaloofs and they are his clients and they have potential to open him to other potential clients. Oh, and the whole ignore the legal orders and call her anyway ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND! Brandi could be held accountable for contacting the HoofMaloofs via harrassment charges, you know what nimwadMurray, have your Vile wife VileKyle call her bestie the HoofMaloof and get the Hoof to call brandi so that she can apologize. Grrrrrrrrrrrr Just lovin though that VileKyle and Murray are being shown for the losers they are.

      • BB says:

        Always follow the money. It usually leads you to the answers of why people do the things they do.

        • T-Rex says:

          Also remember that VileKyle and Murray had the homewreckingTramp ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifterLypsmcgee living with them while she was screwing a married man, had the two at their house for dinner, went out and socialized, all the while his trusting wife thinks her 32 year marriage is “rock solid”. Yet the very single Brandi is a skank for using the F word(uhm Murray you must have wife-deafness cause your VileWife uses this all the time) and sleeping with other single, not married, folks including some real hotties that if I looked like Brandi and I was single would shtoop in a hot minute. Uhm hmmm maybe the fact that Brandi doesn’t find Murray attractive could have something to do with it, just sayin.

          • plainviewsue says:

            Can I just say the nicknames you & VV have for the RHOBH & their significant others are cracking me up!!!! Between Charo, Maury & the others, I am having a ball reading them!!!!

          • Powell says:

            Yeah that she always flirts w/Ken & calls him her BF but not Murray. LOL I love your name for him. 🙂 . I think Brandi gives a boost to Ken’s ego.

          • cusi77 says:

            You got T-Rx girl! It is about money! Real State-affair-love!

    • VV says:

      Mauricio Umansky is a momma’s boy/used car salesman. He goes the way the commission goes. Since Charo and Dr TP were rumored to be splitting, he saw $$$ for commissions on selling their current home and commissions on Dr TP new residence and Charo’s new residence.
      I can’t stand the dude!!! Seriously attacking Brandi like that. HE PROBABLY HAS A THING FOR HER.

      …. and that other blogger calls him John Tuturro. HE DOES LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIM.

    • kit9 says:

      I must have watched a different video. How is Mauricio flip flopping? All he said was try calling her to smooth it over and the lawsuit might go away. He was trying to give Brandi advice from his own experience. And, he said what Brandi said about Adrienne didn’t need to be said(something Brandi admits) but he didn’t say anything about the rightness/wrongness of a suit. Then later he said something like ‘you had no choice’ to Taylor(?)but it’s not clear what he’s referring to. He seems to be talking about the abuse. It’s hard to tell because his comment doesn’t really relate to what we hear Taylor saying just before it. In any case, he wasn’t saying Adrienne’s right to sue but Russell was wrong. He didn’t say anything like that.

      • T-Rex says:

        Okay Maury I would bet a load of dough has never once been served with legal papers not to contact another person. His advice was ludicrous and could have gotten Brandi slapped with Harrassment charges had she indeed tried to contact the HoofMaloof. Once you have been sent documents of non-contact by an attorney, you best heed them, I spoke to my attorney cousin and she said the same thing once you are served, you say nothing to the other party. If they contact you it’s okay but to contact them is a sign of agression. Maury is NOT an attorney an is merely a successful real estate agent his advice is wrong. The lawsuit is meritless, anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason, it usually takes lots of legal back and forth before something like this would ever see a court and these 99.9 percent of the time never do, its a nuisance lawsuit and in the HoofMaloofs situation she is trying to basically bankrupt Brandi to make her “pay” for her transgression. The HoofMaloof is probably up there as one of the most vile people on this show and I am glad that Bravo is firing her. Yep word on the street is that Bravo is FURIOUS with HoofMaoof over all of this and she is NOT welcome back at RHBH. We will see if my source is correct, but they have been before

  11. LaineyLainey says:

    Ad’s Mom – thanks for the great re-cap. It’s so funny that I thought the Hadley scene was not scritped (silly, me!!) – I felt so sad that Abby’s words were still hurting that little girl. Oh her Minnie Mouse line…while funny, yes…I was so upset by it. I work with children and that kind of taunting and ridicule from someone who is in a trusted position of teacher, just really got to me. It made me remember some of the horrible teachers my kids have had. It made me remember some the sadistic people my daughter has come in contact with in the dance world. But oh well..it’s just t.v. and it probably isn’t even “reality” – – – maybe Sophia was in on the joke.

    But I also noticed that Sophia’s voice was less “minnie mouse” and more “mighty mouse” (haha- listen to me) in her talking head. So that made me feel better for her…like “whew! She really doesn’t have a weird voice. Thank goodness for her!!!” LOL

    You did a great job, Ade’sMom. Those moms are something else (from the original team)…they can’t continue as a dance team without a dance company or a dance director or dance studio behind them. Oh and what about training??? Most of them don’t even point their toes properly, nor do they get up high on releve’…the basics!!! You only develop the straight legs, pointed toes and pretty releve’ through hours and hours of training. The occasional mall performance is not going to cut it.

    Oh and I, too, smell a rat. This all took place to mix things up this season…no way, is a REAL DANCE MOM, an ambitious one like Melissa going to trade the preferential treatement her kids receive at AMDC for an occasional performance at the mall where they are all treated as equals. This would never happen in real life. A real dance mom never waivers from her ultimate goal,…for her daughter to be featured. That’s the ultimate goal in dance. Most dancers have to settle for less than that, because only one person can be featured. Even if you only get 1 eight count by yourself…it’s something to covet. Being featured is the end all. It’s a tough world.

    • adelaidesmommy says:

      Thanks for reading. I agree with your comments about ALM’s harshness….. though she has pretty much confirmed that she lays it on thick for the cameras. I’m starting to think that the whole show is blown up for drama reasons. Enjoyed reading your comments. 🙂

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Yeah, totally blown up…what would be the option, though? To Just keep doing the same thing every week, every season? It goes like this usually, right?

        Pyramid. Rehearsals. Moms get mad. Abby gets mad. Everyone is replaceable. Maddie and Chloe do their solos. Christy complains in her talking head. Somebody calls Abby fat. (wow, that’s clever). Maddie wins or gets 2nd place. Chloe wins or gets second place. Jill (if she’s there) cries. The group wins or not. Until next week—> Pyramid, moms get mad, abby gets mad…blah blah blah.

        Sometimes someone gets drunk.

        So last week they threw in a curve ball: Jill’s family doesn’t show up. This week they threw in a curve ball the “sit-in” and the mall and the faux team. There is definitely more drama this season. But does the show need it? I’m on the fence about that….because, guess what, I’m still gonna watch the thing. I LOVE IT!!! Argghhhh!!! I don’t want to love it, but I do!! helllllllllp!

  12. I Need A Life! says:

    I read a great story on one of the new Mob Wives. Her name is, Lov. (Not sure how she spells it.) In the show she says she poisoned a boyfriend. Turns out she dated a guy who was cruel to her dog. He took a sharp turn while the dog was looking out the car window and the dog literally flew out. Dog was fine, but she was livid. She gave the guy household poison, (bug poison???), in his food. He became ill with diarrhea. She left him, left the house, but NOT before taking the toilet paper with her. LOVE this girl. I thought she was trashy at first. Now, just when I thought I was out, Mob Wives pulls me back in. She stabbed a boyfriend with a letter opener in front of his mother. She thought he was paying the bills while she was in Florida for a few months. She returned to find him ready to flee with his mom in tow, leaving her with $20 in cash and bills up the nose. So angry she stabbed him.

    • BB says:

      Sounds like a real classy broad. Lol. I watched her scene with Big Ang then changed the channel. Some of these women talk about how they want their kids to not grow up in “the life” but don’t do a thing to change their environment. They see nothing wrong with it and revel in it. Their sons will probably end up in jail and their daughters will probably marry into the life. When I started blogging the show, I was curious about their life and thought they would evolve, but they seem to be pretty content with the status quo. Now that I’ve seen how they live, it no longer interests me.

      • Powell says:

        Oh BB they totally love the lives they lead. There’s no changing if they don’t leave that life behind.

      • Called A Princess... says:

        BB, I agree with you but I also do not see the difference between the mob and most politicians. I guess the game has slightly different rules, but the end game seems the same. JMHO.

  13. Pghemtchick says:

    Great blogs!

    Lainey, I agree. Angel from DMM put it best last night on Twitter when asked why there wasn’t a DMM season 2:
    @AngelArmas: @mamahendo thanks for the love n support and the answer it’s simple we rather be dance instructors rather then a “TV personality” 😜😘

    Abby is laying it on thick as part of her reality tv persona (I hope at least since I don’t know her). I didn’t find the road kill comment that harsh, because well she was sloppy, but damaging to a 10 year old psyche? Yep. I find that comment different than the Minnie mouse. At least Hadly can fix her roadkillness with technique. The other super talented lil gal can’t outright fix her voice with a lesson. That’s who she is making it über personal. I hate that voice on 18+ year olds who are using it to sound cute and get something, but I found that lil girl to be absolutely adorable!

    DanceMom timeline manipulation: Now that it’s blogged here’s my full comment from last night. Bullcrap! This whole episode was staged. The events were over a month apart. The faux ALDC danced in Ft. Wayne on October 20-21. There was a Master’s class w/ Abby the next day. The moms had a meet and greet on the 21st. Here’s Chrisie’s comment and link to a page w/ several updates:

    dancemomchristi Come meet us in Fort Wayne, IN this Sunday, oct. 21! Details here: http://www.dancemoms.eventbrite.com   3mon
    (takens from: http://web.stagram.com/n/dancemomchristi/)
    If you goto the event page, it’s no longer there, but no update it was cancelled. So we’re the “moms” there?

    Century 3 Mall performance: what a joke! This is a near dead mall in West Mifflin/ Pleasant Hills, Pa (a few minutes south of the city). It’s ran by Simon. I’m sure they’d say it’s not dead; however, in the 90’s this was the mall to goto in the area. I didn’t know anything about this and since I get my hair cut there I’m shocked my stylist didnt mention it. Anyways, let’s just say you can goto this mall on a Friday night/Sarurday and have no fear of there being more than 50 people…if I had to guesstimate, I’d say 35% if not more of the stores are empty. There are much bigger malls and busier malls in the area ( Ross Twp, Pittsburgh Mills, Robinson, South Hills Village, etc) all of these have space, are closer to ALDC, and are über busy. If you check on Christi’s website I posted, you’ll see her comment from 2 months ago to meet the girls @Century3. YouTube vids suggest Nov 20-22 as a date range. So they protested a month later? Funny stuff. Also, Brooke Mia for the first episode? Coincidental with Homecoming. Just saying.

    • BB says:

      Just more evidence that “reality” no longer applies in “Reality TV.”

    • adelaidesmommy says:

      Wow! You have amazing insider info…. color me impressed. Let me know if you ever want to add some info to the blog. I can combine them. Rest assured that Sophia doesn’t really talk like that. I’ve watched many other videos with her sense yesterday. I’m hoping ALM knew that wasn’t her vocie and was trying to get her to calm down and talk normal…. in her weird ALM way.

    • PJ says:

      Is anyone remembering the comments Hadley’s mom made about the other contestants on Abbey’s dance competition. I guess harsh comments are only wrong when they are about her daughter.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        PJ…I had temporary amnesia…I totally forgot about how mean she was about the littlest one. She was not quite as insulting as Abby about the kids…she would make very critical technical comments,…but she was REALLY MEAN to that mom (the one that looked like J-Lo). She knew that little girl had that “it” factor or star quality and it killlllllled her.

        • Called A Princess... says:

          I think that Abby’s persona is a product of her character, or lack there of. Her size and age reflect very little on the fact that she is training people less then half, both, her size and age. Then there are some who would say that she is lit for the cameras and needs to bring the drama. I think it is even worse, for her to be so nasty, just to get the paid check. I miss Victor and the Miami gang. They seemed less offensive most of the time. JMHO.

    • Your comments on Century 3 are so funny, PGHChick – my stepdaughter lives minutes from there, and yet, we always meet her at Robinson!

  14. keida says:

    Ad’s Mom – I’m sorry, but I’m not on ALM’s side on this. I think both she and the moms let this fame go to their heads. I think neither have the talent to become breakout stars. ALM is not that great of a choreographer. All of Maddie’s dances look the same. Some of the girls have talent, but they’re kids. No way are they ready for the big companies. I think they need each other. Each are trying to use the fame as leverage against the other: ALM against the Moms and vice versa. I’m bored with it. I also wouldn’t let that woman speak to my child in such a way. There’s many more dance studios out there. I don’t like the turn I’m seeing in Christie either. The girls need to be in class and practicing or they’re gonna lose the skills that they do have.

    • PJ says:

      I don’t know about the kids, although I do think Maddie is really talented; but I do think Abbey is a very good choreographer. ALM has a string of former students that have become professional and are successful.

    • adelaidesmommy says:

      No worries. I’m on the fence about ALM. I’ve always been a huge supporter of the moms, but they are worrying me more this year. Not Holly – never Holly. Thanks for reading the blog. 🙂

  15. IceNFire says:

    @ TexasTart – About MTV’s Catfish show. I use Facebook for fun and games only. As a Farmviller I have aquired about 2,000 friends, most fv’ers are very funny people and I’ll chat and laugh with anyone whether they speak English or not. ( using google translator just make everything funnier )
    While I’ve met some people that I do like and laugh with, every now and then people get a little too close for my comfort. They message me the moment I log on, tell me I’m their best friend, and then when they ask for my phone number I unfriend them. It just too creepy for me.
    I am definately Not a Catfish but that show fasinates me. It’s sad to see Catfish being so gullible, pisses me off when those luring the Catfish are doing so out of cruelty, and amazes me when the Catfish makes a Real friend.Still the whole thing seems very dangerous to me.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I do like that show. It’s an interesting and new-ish phenomena because of social media. But I suppose it’s just another version of fraud and deception which has been around since the days of the cave people.

      • Powell says:

        It is interesting how it started w/one of the producers when an older lady told him she was this young pretty girl. I think it was on 20/20.

    • TexasTart says:

      Ice – I’m not on Facebook, but I presume the Farmviller reference is a group on FB, anyway, I agree with your take on all this! It is fascinating to see how both sides get caught up in this. It blows my mind that some of these people end up being friends! I am a live and let live, forgiving type person, but I don’t know that I could get past the deception to remain friends. The only episodes I saw were hetero women looking for romantic connections or life partners.

      Like in the first episode, with the woman who befriends this model guy on Facebook and gosh she was in so deep I think she wanted to marry this guy. When they (Nev) comes up with clues that don’t add up, the location doesn’t add up and she was in denial that anything could be wrong, still wanting to believe – until that moment she meets the 19 year old girl she’s been communicating with…GULP.

      And they maintained contact, I presume because they so intimately knew one another, it was friendly territory for a platonic relationship, in this case. Seems even if you misrepresent yourself physically, the personality can still come through the same and I guess that’s it. Oh, yeah and the model guy DID exist! She meet the guy who’s picture was used and he was friendly, but no love connection there either! Weird, but it’s reality and on TV…speaking of which, I’ll check out that episode you mentioned tonight.

    • Powell says:

      Ice I watched the epi where they take this girl to meet this guy in another state. She knocks on the door & it’s a girl. That girl had no remorse. They asked her what made her pretend to be a guy and she said it was because someone had done something similar to her I think. The girl asked her if she was a lesbian but she said no. The guys saw her again & she admited she is a lesbian & that she was sorry for what she did. She was confused about her orientation. I was so mad at that girl. Fortunately the girl that went thru this has a BF now but she said she & the girl talk online sometimes, they are friends.

      • TexasTart says:

        Yes, that’s right Powell, initially the girl had no remorse, which was more troublesome to me that she had no remorse than the deception itself! I mean you HAVE to know this type of deception will not fly at some point and someone will be hurt and/or angry, provided you are sane and not so caught up in a fantasy itself. My guess is the girl knew what her sexuality should be, however had not acted out physically, thus her denial or claim of confusion.
        The woman on the receiving end of this seemed like a really sweet person and as I recall, seemed reserved, compared to how some people could respond. I guess she was in shock at first. I’m not sure what a role having it filmed plays but I’m sure that would make you more aware of your response. She could’ve just started screaming and jumped on that woman with pounding fists. 😉

  16. stellastars21 says:

    Hi Melthehound/Jeff,

    I saw your comment the other day about being sick of seeing Kim Z and her side boob sitting and laying around all the time and I thought of this article I read recently on buddytv.com. She had the nerve to say this about how she lost her most recent baby weight:
    “I’ve lost 30 pounds,” she told Life & Style. “Breast feeding helped me lose some weight, and I was really busy as soon as I got home with Kash. I went straight into filming my spin-off show, Don’t Be Tardy, and I’m sure that helped. I just never sat still!” http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-real-housewives-of-atlanta/real-housewives-of-atlanta-rou-48776.aspx
    Now I know breast feeding can cause some weight loss but can you believe she said “I JUST NEVER SAT STILL” ???!!! Maybe she said it thinking it will bring in ratings from people who would tune in just to see if it could possibly be true.
    I am right there with you by the way on not wanting to see her extreme laziness.

    • T-Rex says:

      Stella too funny. Well maybe she wasn’t sitting but leaning on the countertops as she is barking orders for folks to do the work and ordering Kroy around. She also might be smoking again, and I think more than a couple of diet companies were offering to pay for her to endorse their products too which was incentive to stop eating. Plus once you stop drinking, you drop pounds pretty quickly especially if you aren’t eating much

      • stellastars21 says:

        LOL. I didn’t know about the diet companies. Weren’t you the one who had inside info that Kim Z may not be long for the world of tvland? If so I hope that day comes soon. I’m tired of even knowing there are advertisements for her show and I don’t even have Bravo anymore.

      • Powell says:

        Leaning on countertops. Good one. 😉

    • melthehound says:

      Stella, I’m pretty clueless when it comes to most female things such as post pregnancy happenings. I know all women are different but one common thing I’ve heard repeatedly is that breast feeding sucks the life out of their chestal region (puns intended). I guess she could have lost a couple pounds from that.. I don’t believe though that she suddenly became a superwoman dynamo (my words) and got motivated. If she’s lost weight, good for her, regardless of how she did it, but my money says she’s still the same lazy gold digging pig she’s always been. What do I know though? I stopped watching all things Atlanta when they were in Africa last season. So, I will likely always see her as the one sitting either in bed or on the couch, hollering for whatever servant she has, to hand her her drink that is sitting on the table right next to her.

      • Powell says:

        Sitting in bed or on a couch. Too funny MTH. 🙂

      • stellastars21 says:

        You’re right when you say that if she lost weight then good for her. You’re better than me cause I automatically got stuck on the “I just never sat still bit” since she’s a lying liar who lies and I assumed this has.to.be a lie given what we’ve seen of her. lol Even if I had Bravo I wouldn’t watch her show so I guess I’ll never know hahahaha.

    • Powell says:

      No I can’t believe Kim “never sat still”. The last season of ATL she said she would have all types of procedures when she was finished having kids.

      • stellastars21 says:

        Meanwhile I need to lose weight. I need to get back to “high school skinny” as Detox says. I weighed 131 at 5’10” from 7th grade till about age 25 maybe. Now at 30 I’m 147 or so still at 5’10”. In the real world that’s perfectly ok but my clothes that I’ve had for years don’t fit anymore. I can’t afford a new wardrobe so I have to lose some lbs. Especially since I’m at the magic 30 where everything seems to stick to you no matter how great your metabolism was before that point.

        • Powell says:

          Stella you sound like me. I’m no where near overweight and people tell me to be quiet when I say I need to lose a few pounds. It’s especially since I have a lot of clothes and some nice clothes that I need to get into cause I can’t afford a bunch of new clothes. I’m petite size 4 & need to get into a whole lot of size 2 clothes. I buy clothes every now and then but certain things I don’t buy. My problem is hips. I’m the sane size up top but not the bottom. I’m trying to get to almost high school skinny as Detox says. 🙂

          • stellastars21 says:

            I’m glad to know someone can relate. lol. This morning I just put on pants that used to be big on me and I had a hard time closing the button. I wanna be comfortable again 🙂

    • kit9 says:

      Oh, for god’s sake! Her middle name is ‘Sit Still’! I think she’s taken flack for doing nothing but sitting on her butt ordering people around. I love how she says filming helped her lose weight. Like having people film her laying around, swilling wine and complaining about everhing is hard work. I have a funny feeling Kim is pathetically trying to explain a dramatic weight loss that was anything but natural.

  17. PJ says:

    Did anyone catch Bethenny on Ellen? She was so genuinely devastated over the breakup with Jason I don’t think anyone could watch and not see how upset she is. I’m thinking that all the people blaming Bethenny are wrong.

    • I Need A Life! says:

      PJ, she was clearly upset. But she never said she was upset about the end of a marriage. She said, “I feel like a failure to YOU…” She was addressing Ellen, not her child. She’s always been in control, and this time she can’t control things, and it’s driving her to tears. Hey, she’s just my, “distraction.”

    • Cartwheels says:

      I saw it , it broke my heart 😦

    • kit9 says:

      I didn’t see it but have a different reaction. I really love Bethenny but dislike her decision to go on Ellen and talk about her divorce at all. I know she talks about sharing her life with her fans and all that but it’s just not something she should do in this case. Let SOMETHING be private. She’d just come off looking much better by taking the classy route and that means saying nothing.

    • chismosa says:

      When is Jason coming on so i can hear him and see his tears? I will tune in for that. Oh wait, he’s a normal guy and wouldn’t do something so calculated.

      • I Need A Life! says:

        He’ll be seen next on , “The Bachelor.” Or will it be Bethenny on, “The Bachelorette?”

        • Called A Princess... says:

          Jason was on her show so he is not completely camera or media shy. I am not that sure how normal he is… but compared to Bethenny, anyone would seem normal. JMHO.

        • chismosa says:

          Wow he would be awesome for that show! But he’s got too much standards in his life to do that. I know you’re kidding though, but he’d be good. 😉

          • I Need A Life! says:

            I wasn’t kidding. I think he’d be perfect. They’d get the Bravo and ABC audience. I was kidding about Bethenny.

  18. I Need A Life! says:

    I’m breaking down the holiday here. Don’t know what’s more painful, up or down. Spoiler Alert: I went to You Tube to play some music, and noticed that Bethenny’s interview on Ellen is up now. She cries throughout. Starts with, “I feel like a failure.” Ellen says, “We don’t know what life is like behind the scenes. You’ll be able to help others on your new show.” Bethenny says her NY resolution is that this is going to be a really crappy year. Ellen says that’s the slogan of your new show, “If you think YOU’RE having a crappy day, listen to my day.”

    We all have different views. The way you see Taylor’s fake tears, is the way I see Bethenny’s fake tears. Watching someone because she’s, “a successful businesswoman going through divorce and raising a child,” is just too ’80s for me. However, Ellen is right. We don’t know what it’s like behind closed doors for anyone.

    • AZGirl says:

      I feel bad for Bethenny but…….
      Ellen has an interest in the success of Bethenny’s new talk show. She is producing it. Having Bethenny on was a very calculated move. Bethenny needs to succeed so Ellen can succeed.

      • PJ says:

        I don’t think Ellen needs anybody to succeed she is already a success. I think there is a genuine friendship there and this appearance was already scheduled.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Successful people still have to take care of their investments. That’s how they stay successful.

          • PJ says:

            True but I feel that Ellen has integrity and isn’t faking it.

            • AZGirl says:

              Pj I don’t think Bethenny’s tears are fake at all. She is really lost and now has a child to support. She is disappointed in herself but for B I think business in also really important.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              I agree that she has integrity, but she is very savvy, too – PJ. In the end I think B will be fine and her show will be fine especially with the support of Ellen.

              • PJ says:

                Ellen is savvy I agree but she also has enough integrity not to tell Bethenny to go on her show and cry just so Bethenny’s show doesn’t fail. I think the friendship is real and the moment was real.

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  Ok, I can respect that. Especially since I didn’t watch the interview. I just think that if this wasn’t about show business, if it was all about a personal friendship, the televised interview wouldn’t have happened at all. They would have just spoken privately, on the phone or over a private dinner. You know, the way the rest of us express concern over our real friends and the setbacks they might experience. The whole concept, without even having seen the interview seems like they are pandering for sympathy …or at least…pandering for understanding…trying to put a more sympathetic light on Bethenny, the headlining star of Ellen’s upcoming big project. It’s a smart move. Ellen has the perfect vehicle (her show) to do a little damage control for her friend (and investment). I would have done the same thing.

                  • PJ says:

                    They stated that the appearance was already scheduled before the divorce announcement. They made the decision to go ahead with the scheduled appearance, I respect that because life goes on and they both want the new show to be a success. I think that If Bethenny had decided not to go on Ellen would have been fine with that. The appearance wasn’t all about friendship or Ellen comforting Bethenny; I simply said I get the sense that they are real friends in real life. I would have done the same thing too.

                    I think some people (and I’m not referring to you) are going really overboard with their speculating and criticizing of Bethenny and her motives. People have a right to live and move on and have some successes in their lives without being picked apart. From what I saw of Jason he was no saint he just played one on TV.

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      ITA, your last sentence: good one. 🙂

                      I don’t want to really criticize either of them, but truth be told, NO ONE is a saint. right? Good luck to all three of them…Bethenny, Jason & Bryn. That one is easy to agree upon.

      • chismosa says:

        Word AZ Girl

    • I Need A Life! says:

      ….and it would have been really interesting to know what went on behind the scenes at the meeting prior to the interview. I can picture Ellen and the handlers saying, “Ok, Beth. We need tears. You have to be humble. You can’t say anything negative about Jason. Talk about the new show and how this experience will enlighten everyone.”

      • PJ says:

        Oh no those tears were NOT fake.

      • Cartwheels says:

        Bethenny was holding it back, I think she wanted to show that she was strong and not cry but she just couldn’t help herself.
        Bethenny’s tears were no fake, they were real and whether one like her or not, you have to admit that this has to be excruciating on her.
        A lot of people have question why she wasn’t willing to work on her marriage and gave up so quickly. The reality is none of us knows what was going on but if the last season of BEA is any indication of her relationship with Jason, then most definitely I agree that there was no fixing it. How can you fix something when the other person refuses to even acknowledge his issues, Bethenny was willing to work on hers but Jason always felt that he was “normal” so how do you fix “perfect”?

        • Powell says:

          True Cartwheels. I always felt Jason was “damaged” in his own way. I remember one epi where B said to J that he always wants people to believe he’s perfect.

          • chismosa says:

            But Powell, damaged in your ‘own’ way- IS Normal. Any therapist i’ve EVER had told me that.
            Bethenny’s loud announcements to the world of her damagedness- is NOT normal. Her way of handling it is and was NOT normal.

            Everyone has their own issues and Jason’s were not abnormal. Bethenny’s were slightly more abnormal, she made them out bigger than they were and she did not go and get a handle on them correctly and pre-emptively. Her fault.

            To call Jason ‘damaged’ is to call every single person damaged. Bethenny LUXURIATES in her damages. Jason lives a normal life of being normally, for lack of a better word, damaged.

        • chismosa says:

          i fault Bethenny for stupidly thinking she can go into a long term relationship with this man and get married given her past many failures and cheating on her first husband. I fault her for not going to therapy PRIVATELY since the time she decided to stick it out with Jason. Before she stopped the birth control pills and got pregnant. When she decided, hey i like this guy – he may be my specimen ;)—– she should have been to therapy. That’s stupididty 101.

          You know your history with men, your ‘torturous’ way of being raised by wolves, you are so business savvy but you can’t get a handle early on in your romantic relationship that want ‘for the long haul’??
          stupidity101

      • chismosa says:

        yup I.N.A.L. that’s how i see it. I mean, everyone plans anyway, despite how organically everyone thinks interviews go.

    • BB says:

      Look, nobody will never know the whole story. I’m sure there is fault on both sides, just as there usually is in divorce situations (I said usually, not all the time). I’ve have always been a Bethenny fan and supporter, but I have to call it like I see it. I watched the video. I have to say, I’m a little skeptical of her motives for talking about it, especially when the conversation segued into how she can use her new Talk Show to discuss these issues and help others. Promotion much? Sorry, that’s how I feel. I’m sure she’s broken up about it, but I think she’s also taking advantage of the situation. Ellen is very very popular. What better move than to go on her show and talk about it and get her support? Ellen also has a stake in this since she’s the one who pretty much got Bethenny the talk show in the first place. You can view the video on TooFab.com if you want to form your own opinion.

      • plainviewsue says:

        BB. I can’t watch till it comes on in NY at 4:00. But I have a feeling I will agree with your summary. I read some of it and her saying of how she disappointed us, the fans, should be the last thing she is worried about.

        Ellen and her production company are responsible for B’s talk show I believe. So that would explain why B used it as her platform.

        Cameras following a married couple with a new baby for the entire time of its marriage is not smart, esp when it’s someone as type A as Bethenny. Her last season was cringe worthy.

        I did like her talk show, but I don’t know if I’ll be a loyal viewer to it. The whole scenario is so sad. I don’t know if Bethenny knows how to be happy.

        • Powell says:

          I don’t think J wanted to do BEA.

          • Cartwheels says:

            He seemed happy with it during BGM and BEA season 2, only during the last season he seemed unhappy. He probably wanted Bethenny to pretend that everything was perfect and when not given his way would throw a tamtrum and just say “I am done” like he said before the boat trip.

      • VV says:

        I think the appearance was damage control for the sake of her new show and her brand. I understand she was scheduled and that actuslly proves my point because she could have canceled. She needed to put a band aid because she’s getting clobbered.

    • Cartwheels says:

      She said that she felt she had disaapointed her fans and she felt like a failure, she said that actually twice. I don’tthink she was addressing Ellen in particular but her fans.
      I think anybody who goes through divorce knows that it is pretty normal to feel like you have failed as a woman, but even then when she said that she had to “rip the bandaid off and let it heal”, she meant that she had to file for divorce because there was no fixing the marriage.
      My take, which is probably different from anybody else is that Jason is pretty traditional so I am sure he wanted to keep separate lives and pretend that the marriage was perfect for bryn’s sake but unwilling to work on the real issues that they have. Bethenny wanted a real marriage and work through their issues and it was obvious that they were not going to agree on any of it.
      It is funny how people who have worked with Bethenny and had more interaction with her than any of us could ever have through a show, have been supportive of her decision. I am not surprised of Ellen’s support after all it can be said that she hasn’t had much interaction with Jason, but I was surprised when the production team that filmed BGM and the two seasons of BEA tweeted their explicit support of Bethenny.
      They surely saw things that we never got to see, they are probably the ones who know what happened behind doors.

      • Cartwheels, did Julie tweet anything? I always thought that she left because she couldn’t take the fighting.

        • BB says:

          I always thought she left because she was totally burnt out and didn’t want her whole life to revolve around her job. I’ve been there myself and finally realized my health and well being were more important than loyalty to my boss. JMO.

          • VV says:

            Julie was with her when B was nothing. Once B hit the jackpot, I think she expected to be better compensated or promoted…but NOTHING happened NADA! WSL actually agreed that she thought Julie was under appreciated by B.

        • Pghemtchick says:

          Not a peep out of Julie. An I reading into it that Bethenny follows her assistant Jackie, but not Julie? Julie still follows Bethenny. I should say Julie has been tweeting about vacation, Pittsburgh stuff, etc. just no Bethenny.

          • VV says:

            I hadn’t read your comment. I commented the same about B not following the Godmother of her child. I also looked at Max and Maggie’s twitter account but nothing….

        • Cartwheels says:

          No, not July, the production team that filmed all her three seasons. Remember, they are filming there all the time and they probably have a better insight than any of us.
          Purveyors of Pop I think it is the name?

          Purveyors of Pop‏@PurveyorsofPop
          “@Bethenny: To those of you who are being supportive: thank you. To those of you who are judging: I totally get it.” WE SUPPORT U! #RealTalk

          6 JanTara Cushing‏@TheBravoBitch
          @PurveyorsofPop @bethenny http://TBBReality.com completely supports Bethenny. Only she & Jason know what is best for them.

          6 JanBethenny Frankel‏@Bethenny
          Thanks xo @PurveyorsofPop

        • VV says:

          Fact:
          Julie Plake follows Bethheny on Twitter. Bethenny does not follow Julie on Twitter.

          • Sus says:

            Maybe I made this up in my mind because I wanted it to be true….

            I could have sworn that after SkinnyGirl was bought, Bethenny gave Julie a million dollar bonus.

            I thought she left because she was sick of her job and her boyfriend lived in Pittsburgh. Plus she got a million bucks (in my mind maybe).

            • I Need A Life! says:

              What do you think happens to the painting of the “runaway bride” that Beth gave Jason as a wedding gift? Can he sell it? I think that painting says it all.

  19. T-Rex says:

    VanderPumpRules: Finally got a chance to watch this program I really thought it was going to be awful and it wasn’t.
    Couple of notes their attire is completely too small! I worked in a low cut, high thigh cut leotard with fish net stockings and 4 inch heels in the bar and could at least wear a Brar and underwear(well not really but you didn’t see my whooha hanging out either).
    Stassi is a bitch and unfortunately every place I have ever worked has had at one time a Stassi in our bar it was the stupid idiots that would sleep with the owner, never shite where you eat, never works out very well.
    Too much sexcapades, in house on Vpump. Look I was certainly not chaste during my time at the bar, but never diddled with “the help”. Staff and bosses were off limits in my book, random band guys that rotated in and out every week, well, hell yeah, I didn’t have to see them after their week booked there was over, if they re-booked they still weren’t “help”
    Lisa did this show to not only showcase SUR but to get these struggling “show folks” maybe some recognition. Scheana also is a great server, she will maybe also make a little money in showbiz, but probably not a star, the Katie girl maybe. Stassi, maybe a blogger but other than that it’s a good thing her parents are rich and can support her. None of the guys will ever make it, IMO

    Too the issue folks had with the drink tasting, I had to see what everyone was talking about before commenting. Okay, that goes on in every bar or restaurant, we aren’t contaminating your drink by sticking in a clean straw and taking a minisule amount out to taste your drink. It’s encouraged to know what your patron’s drink tastes like, especially if they ordered something out of the norm you have never heard of, you would be surprised at what crazy stuff folks want to put in a drink. Or as Bartenders we had folks that would say “surprise me” and we would concoct something different, and the waitresses would see what it tastes like, why, because if others see it and want to know what someone else is drinking you know what it tastes like so you can sell it.

    • Powell says:

      T-Rex when Lisa was on Wendy this morn she said she found those dresses on vaca & sent them back. Wendy had one of them & Lisa was teasing her telling her to put it on as payback for Wendy saying Lisa had butt implants.

    • melthehound says:

      Lisa did this show to not only showcase SUR but to get these struggling “show folks” maybe some recognition.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Recognition for what? What I saw were a bunch of self entitled brats.

      • T-Rex says:

        Yeah that’s how we saw it, but she sees it as giving them exposure and publicity, or better yet maybe she is teaching them a lesson on how not to behave and that they need to grow up who knows, but that’s Hollyweird for ya!

  20. AZGirl says:

    I could not understand why Taylor and Kyle were hanging out together. Now we know Taylor is still living with Maury and Kyle.

    Ok. So Kyle says that she and Kim have a troubled relationship due to Kim’s drinking problem. Kim goes to rehab, gets sober and Kyle informs everyone at the dinner party that she does not know her sister and they are not close.
    Next, Taylor (sloppy drunk) shows up with her married boyfriend and its all good with everyone?
    In addition to all the “love” Kyle and Maury have for Taylor they give Taylor the green light to get drunk and sleep with a married man all in their own backyard?

    Why would this be a good example to set for their daughters? Even if the daughters are not living at home it still reeks of hypocracy. Just like Kyle drinking around Kim. It is as if Kyle wants Kim to fail but Taylor is a victim Kyle is trying to help? Why would Kyle give a rat’s ass about Taylor in the first place. Not like Taylor going to be purchasing a new home anytime soon. She is broke.

    I am getting some vibes about Kyle and Maury’s marriage and they are not good. I am not feeling the love between these two. If my husband showed up at the house with a Masarati for me I would be very suspicious.

  21. LaineyLainey says:

    Chapter One

  22. WindyCityWondering says:

    What bugs me about Dance Moms is all the jocking for position and status – it makes the actual dancing take a back seat on the show. The show is built on a select group of girls and giving us all new girls/moms to watch wasn’t interesting and made me less likely to watch the old group grovel to get back on the show.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Windy, that may be the only thing that IS REAL about this show. That is exactly what real Dance Moms do, they jocky for position and status. That part is not contrived.

    • adelaidesmommy says:

      I hear you. I wanted to cry when I figured out I had to learn all new names, ages, cities, and personalities. I will say that I greatly enjoyed watching Sophia. That little girl can dance, so I have to give her props.

    • RealHousewifeVA says:

      The whole show is becoming so fake. In the upcoming episodes that they showed on epi 1, Kelly is clearly back and Paige is in one of the group numbers. The new girls/team is all phony. Sophia Lucia would never leave her family based studio in Cali to dance at ALDC. She’s already way beyond the ALDC girls in talent and she’s famous. She just did this epi for air time.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Yes, RHVA – Sophia is way beyond the ALDC girls. She is phenomenal. Really special. I guess it was “just another gig” for them. huh?

  23. VV says:

    NMD,
    O forgot to thank you yesterday for the RHOBH Timeline item. It has been recorded 😉

  24. Nancy says:

    You think ALM is mean check out “The” Christopher Dean talking to his partner Jane Torvill
    while rehearsing for their come back to the Olympics. Dang! I’m not sure I could have taken it
    as well as Jane did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jJOEmnyms8

  25. contessa says:

    Enjoyed all the recaps (don’t watch everything, but I definitely read all the recaps). I am working on site today (2 days out of 5). Feeling lazy and would rather read here – LOL.

    First of all have to say I agree with my AZ – there is something rotten in BH when one gets a Maserati – three is something very off going on there between Kyle and Maury. I wonder if vilekyle realizes she took the wrong position in the Brandi/ad fight. With regard to ad – she is a disgusting human being – last season she was freaked out about getting sued (amrstrong/camille issue) to the point of disinviting the armstrongs from Kyle’s house. Now we ff and this beyotch is suing Brandi (who has nothing). That is simply ad exercising her non-existant power, as she will find public opinion will totally decimate her. If the secret is that she used a surrogate – big f’ing deal. If I wanted a kid and that was the only way or whatever other way, I would do whatever it took to get pregnant. Is she so plastic that she cannot admit that at her age (at that time) it was not easy to get pregnant (the woman does not eat. By the way she does look different this season and I would bet money she got her face tightened a bit, as her eyes appear smaller.

    I felt for Brandi meeting with Sheana, but anytime one is faced with something like that it does open old wounds. I did not meet with my ex’s new wife (his ho when we were married), but I heard enough from friends about the liberties he took especially when I was visiting my dying Dad and he was entertaining the beyotch in my house and bed. We as women usually have an inkling (I can pinpoint the exact time I felt something different), and I am glad Brandi did not give Sheana a free ride sayng it was okay, I understand you loved him, blah, blah, blah. She held this little ho responsible and that in my opinion is a good thing. I don’t believe for one minute that Scheana did not know he was married. I also think Brandi alluded to the fact that Eddie is cheating or has cheated on Leann…no doubt in my my mind as a leopard doesn’t change their spots. Leann would have been much smarter to stay in her old marriage where he H adored her and she didn’t have to worry about him running form hen house ot hen house in the night.

    Also the idea of Lips and her married lawyer BF…Kyle gets pissy because Brandi used the F word, but here she has lips sleeping/f’ing someone’s husband, getting drunk at her house, and Kyle finds this acceptable behavior. Kyle has a very skewed sense of morals in my opinion.

    • Powell says:

      Contessa no way Sheena didn’t know who Eddie was. They’re in Hollywood. Wannabe actors know who is who.

      • T-Rex says:

        Yeah SheenaqueenoftheHo’s knew exactly who he was that he was married and his wife was pregnant. Her lie #1 – Didn’t know him, Lie#2 -SheenaqueenoftheHo’s trying to be all in her face about their relationship confessed that Candyman’s two best buds knew, if they did then she knew FULL WELL he was married. Lie#3 – The Boat there are pictures on the boat of this family in the cabin. Not getting a pass on not knowing he was married. Did he tell her he was unhappily married, you betcha, did he tell her his wife didn’t give him lovin anymore, you betcha, did she think he would leave his wife for her, you betch. So I could see why Brandi was more than a bit pissed at SheenaqueenoftheHo’s attitude

      • contessa says:

        You are absolutely correct and I didn’t buy it for a minute. The line is ususally we are getting seperated but still live in the same house because….bills, wife is crazy, lawyer says so, the moon is green, my gf scares me, it’s Tuesday and my horoscope said to stay a few more monthes, whatever bs they can come up with (this applies to cheatin man/woman)

    • melthehound says:

      You think the Maserati from Morris (not to offend Morris the cat) was hush or tribute money paid to Kyle? I mean Morris Is trying to start a new business and all..

      The idea of Lips still being on the show is revolting enough but it’s good to know my fast forward button still works. It takes two to be trashy and cheater-like so I hold them both equally responsible. Whatever that guy’s agenda is, he has publicly gone on the show so if his wife didn’t know for certain he’s cheating, she knows now. I’m sure we’ll find out sooner or later what product or service lawyer dude is pushing. I can’t imagine showing himself to be a cheater on a reality show doing his practice any good.

      I didn’t buy the idea that Sheana didn’t know whatzizname was married, not one bit. That whole scene was nothing more than a set up to segue into the SUR Infomercial.

      • Powell says:

        She thought her 32yr marriage was Rick solid? She needs to sue Taylor for alienation of affection.

        • T-Rex says:

          Yeppers got the link for that when the ex-wife gave that interview somewhere from my “google-a-thon” this morning. They are completely divorced already and I heard she got pretty much everything she wanted. ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifterLypsMcgee and the LyingloserLawyer are BOTH responsible for the breakdown of his marriage. Do I think she seduced him, you betcha! You are on the road, he is probably not new to cheating, and you have this drunk ass woman who will do probably any “act” you can think of because she is needy and in need of a new meal ticket. Now she was living with VileKyle and Murray at the time, so these two are having drunken sex and an affair in their pool house but god forbid Brandi say the F word or spill a secret that apparently EVERYONE but Kim already knew about!

          • Powell says:

            T-Rex I haven’t seen the last 2 epis. Is Kennedy also staying in the pool house?

            • T-Rex says:

              AAaaah with the glory of the Bravo Edit, they edited ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifgerLypsMcgee at the old house she shared with Russell, which is the house she got kicked out of shortly after filming commenced. I think the whole “cleansing” thing happened way before it was shown on film, IMO. Not the calls from the attorneys but the actual shakazulufauxmedium stuff was earlier.

      • T-Rex says:

        MTH he is in the same industry that ConRussell was in the Pharmacy biz. That’s how ShannaTaylorNotFordLyingGrifterLypsMcgee knew him, and his lovely wife of 32 years. Except Lyingloserlawyer was actually making money at this and is a lawyer for a more than one Pharmbiz. So yes I think we will see them in some biz venture in the future, he will use her psuedo-celebrity and her grifting ways in some way or another.

      • AZGirl says:

        I do have this feeling that we will be hearing about Maury’s escapades soon. Just a hunch. No real info to go by. Just a little AZGirl intuition. 🙂

      • contessa says:

        Hi Jeff and Mel, I call him Maury – the used car salesman, as I would never insult Morris the cat (not sure you know I am a cat person and my Sasha owns me). I think that maybe there is some strain in their marriage due to Kim’s alcoholism and also Maury leaving the Hilton Real Estate Group (big sister’s husband). Plus don’t forget vilekyle has a big mouth and she is stupid on top of that by backing the wrong horse in the current war and also for attacking Lisa at last year’s reunion with cha-cha Ad. By the way I read somewhere that Lisa indicated she and vile kyle are not really friends anymore but basically hello and goodbye, air kiss kind of stuff. Kyle apparently doesn’t understand that things said just don’t magically go away.

        With regard to Lips and her new bf I hope his wife cleaned him out big time. Lips is a schemer grifter who I have no doubt uses sex in her repertoire of tricks….

        Sheana is a little pos using every excuse imaginable to come across as some young innocent that dated a married man. Sorry GF, married is married whether you are 18 or 68….

        Kisses to Mel and a big cookie!!!!

        • IceNFire says:

          Yes – Something in the way Lisa’s latest Bravo blog is worded hints that she and Kyle are no longer friends.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            I do not think they ever really were friends. Just show business associates, on Kyle’s side. I do not think that Kyle is loyal and since she is not a very good actress it does not take long to see her 2 faces. JMHO.

          • T-Rex says:

            Yes, LisaVpump is no longer interested in anything by a cordial working relationship with VileKyle, and that VileKyle doesn’t understand why everyone doesn’t like nor trust her any longer, uhm DUH?!?!? watch the show! Marisa is only nice to her because she has to be as long as she is still employed at Hilton/Hyland, but I think their relationship is not what it was.

  26. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Poor Bethanny-she thought she was marrying a man but she married a boy-a mommas boy at that. I don’t think he ever loved Bethenny for herself. He thought he could “fix” her and make her normal. She wanted a new kind of normal-a family with Jason not Jason’s family in her face. If I was married to Jason I would have no problem with his mother and father being around b/c that’s how I grew up. Bethenny didn’t need it or want it and Jason knew from jump. He tried to get her to be someone else and that just never works. If he loved her for her he wouldn’t have tried to change who she was. I know in marriage we all change and grow-but we are still US-once you ask someone to change who they truly are you better start packing. In my 45 years of life I have seen plenty of women disappear from their true selves to please a man-they end up being a shell of their former selves-that is sad and no one should have to do that to keep a man. It seems to me that she got tired of trying to be someone she can not be-so its time to move on.
    Bethenny has built a very successful “empire” and she should be proud-she shouldn’t have to down play her success for Jason to fell like a man-if he was a man he would be supporting her dream and applauding her success.

    I wonder why I haven’t read anything about Lisa pimping out her good friend Brandi to help push SUR? I think it was so odd for Brandi to have that convo with that chick on TV. Brandi asked her things and then got pissed off when the girl answered. Brandi said she knew her husband only saw this girl on Tuesdays and was with her the rest of the week-but when Sheena(Whatever the hell her name is) said she saw Eddie more often Brandi got mad. Im confused-did she want to know or did she want to just stand on the table and scream “WATCH SUR”? It was so strange that Brandi wanted to cut this girl down on TV and tell her that she is in a better place than her b/c she is just a waitress…inst the whole show about waitresses? Was she helping to promote a show that she thinks is about “losers”? Im so confused by the whole thing. Why would Lisa ask her friend to go through that?

    • PJ says:

      This is exactly the way I feel about the Bethenny/Jason situation.

    • Powell says:

      JNNTJ I can understand Jason wanting B to be close w/his parents but in 2yrs? That’s just to much to fast. That’s why she told him she was happy to seem them on occasion and it was fine that he wanted to take Bryn to see them on weekends. I don’t know why he couldn’t get that.

      B most def shouldn’t downplay her success. She’s been trying to get this success for many yrs, many more yrs than she knew Jason. She nerds to run the other way if she meets another Jason. Remember her BF on S1/2 was also named Jason.

      • Cartwheels says:

        This is were I get confused because when Perez released the news of Bethenny being pregnant, Jason was freaking out because he hadn’t told his parents and they hadn’t met Bethenny, so how a guy who goes to his hometown every other week or every three weeks had managed not to introduce his girlfriend of several months, the one who is living with and who is already two months pregnant?
        I am not saying that Jason wasn’t close to his parents but I can see how Bethenny never thought that it would be an issue because it never was when they were dating.
        Bethenny and Jason’s parents situation was like a person coming out of a liquid diet and being offered a rack of ribs, delicious yes, but way too heavy.

        • Powell says:

          Good point.

        • chismosa says:

          Did Jason say that Bethenny had never met his parents? I never remember that…i know he wanted them to tell them in person, together.
          I have all this crap on dvd, i should re-watch.

          Many men are not going to introduce women right away to their parents unless it’s something on the verge of marriage, even men close to their parents. I never saw Jason as a momma’s boy, and i know a momma’s boy!– – and i’m sorry, marriage wasn’t coming until they found out she was pregnant. They didn’t get engaged and THEN she got pregnant, despite how Bravo and she made it seem that season.

          • Cartwheels says:

            Well, then we will have to call Jason a liar too because he said he propose and shortly after that they found out she was pregnant.

            • chismosa says:

              yeah no, i do think that was Bravo, Bethenny, and Jason’s idea to put that all out there. He was complicit in it completely. I just don’t think it happened that way.

    • Cartwheels says:

      I think Jason honestly loved Bethenny, he got her sense of humor and she was the spark of his life. He made the mistake of thinking that he could “change her to his liking” once they got married, but many couples have gone through the same and survived because they learned to adapt their expectations. I see the problem with Jason more as an issue of perception. Jason the town hero, basketball athlete, NYC bachellor was used to people thinking that he was perfect.. Appereances are of utmost importance to him and would do just about anything to keep it that way, his ego suffered a massive stroke when he realized just how much Bethenny had accomplished in her proffesional life, he started resenting not only the money but also the recognition, he hated the perception that Bethenny was the bread winner and that he was a kept man. He said “I feel like people are judging me for the fact that I didn’t make it”
      Who are this people that would judge him, the viewers? his friends? his family? Bethenny? Bethenny told him upfront that she didn’t feel this perception was coming from her, IMO this perception came from no other place than his own mind.
      This is where I give Jason a pass. I don’t think he really knew how to react to her fortune, I think he didn’t know how his mind frame and values would play such a decisive role and would make him bitter, he just couldn’t cope with it and he needed to vent, to express his frustration, these came in the form of digs, passive aggresive comments. Bethenny knew that this comments were coming from some dark place and wanted to talk about it, she wanted to find out what was bothering him, Jason would not have it, he dismissed his digs as being lovely jokes, he failed to acknowledge and work on the real issues that were bothering him, he refused to be seen as anything but perfect so he fought back. He couldn’t hurt her on the proffesional side so he stroke her emotional side, he shoved his parents too hard in an attempt to make her feel insecure and unfit, just because that is the way he felt.
      Did he try to hurt her purposely? uhmmm maybe not at the beginning, but when the fight would get going he fought dirty, he used his parents and the normalcy of his childhood as weapons because those were sure targets to hurt her.
      Jason probably never realized until he was in the arena that he does have a chauvinistic mind frame, after all that was the way he was raised. I think if he would have had teraphy by himself and then with Bethenny this could had been worked up someway but as I say before how do you fix perfect?

      • 2Stupid says:

        I agree with just about everything you said, but Bethenny used a public forum (her show) to put Jason down. I truly believed she used that show to show people Jason wasn’t perfect and got her digs in through the show. Maybe if Jason didn’t have to deal with people (us) speculating on blogs about him- they might could of worked through these isssues. He wanted a comfortable family life- she wanted to be a celebrity, and on the covers of magazines celebrating her success. I think on some level he thought the Beam deal should be enough and she could fade into obscurity a little. She wanted to conquer the world.

        • Powell says:

          But 2stupid I hate it when “stars” have problems in their relationship they blame “the media” for not being able to work it out. The media? The blogs, rag, mags, entertainment shows, talk shows, etc have no bearing on their relationship. We are not their family, friends & associates that have an emotional investment in their relationship. We are nothing to them & their lives that should make working it out tough for them. There are many “stars” that tune out all this background noise. If they truly want to workvit out they will.

        • chismosa says:

          i agree 2 Stupid. You ain’t stupid! ha

          Powell, she chose to put out emotional/ THERAPY (!!!!) on tv for the world, to add to her ‘i’m very open’ persona.i think that is what is meant by ‘media.’ The actual show. Jason, at that time, did not have authority with Bethenny to put his foot down and say ‘ um can we not show all this stuff to every.single.person.in.the.world.? Please?’ No way would B have allowed that.

        • Cartwheels says:

          She didn’t use the forum, they (both Jason and Bethenny were filming their lives) agree to do a reality show, Jason was very careful not to show his other side to the cameras but every once in a while his mask slipped.
          So how would had this work in your mind? Bethenny should had look haggard and miserable the whole season with no explanation? but the most important question is why? why does Bethenny has to make believe the rest of the world that her husband is perfect? were is it written that women must alwaus protect their husbands. Jason wasn’t protecting Bethenny’s image that is for sure, he made no qualms about calling her names and then jokingly said that he liked to push her buttons.
          Jason is a business person, he more than anybody knows that the “fade into obscurity” is not possible for the foreseeable future , Jason knows that Bethenny has to keep promoting the line of cokctails because that is what her contract stipulates. she can’t just quit and decide to live off her earnings, the contract ties her up for 8 years.
          Jason didn’t want a celebrity? then he should have looked elsewhere because Bethenny was filming when he met her, she was shooting a promotion for a bar and the cameras were in his face, so much for not liking the limelight.
          Bethenny could had edited herself to make herself likeable, to make herself level headed and Jason the lunatic, but she didn’t, the production team filmed and showed what they thought was more dramatic, if anything I am sure that the only time Bethenny used her executive producer rights was to edit some of their most nasty fights, just a feeling that I have.

          • chismosa says:

            Cartwheels my stance on any ‘name-calling’ Jason did to Bethenny was that it was a response to her nagging/ her saying and labeling herself those things 1000000x to him and to the camera, (so he responds back to her what she keeps telling him she is sort of thing)/ to her aggressive -masking-as-passive-aggressive ways with him. That’s what i think about that- but that’s JMHO. I know many here see this ‘dark’ side to Jason and it makes me laugh but i guess we all see what we see!?
            ———————————-
            When Jason first got on the show, even the first season of her spinoff, i think he totally would have had no way to say no to being filmed. i’m sorry that’s just how i think. i’ve stated on today’s blog how i felt he worked with her to try to blend her into his very loving family, as a token of love to show her that there is love by parents out there! His lifelong friends were very welcoming to her, and well- we see how she loved them. not.
            I guess she brought friends of hers (?) to blend Jason in with.
            What i’m saying is i think he took the fiance/BF/ husband role seriously to be as much a good solid companion and best friend to her as he could. I think she never saw him as her best friend- someone said that on here the other day and i concur.
            ———————————————-
            And sorry, Bethenny looks haggard and miserable because she has never been happiness 101 every day, no matter what season of what show she’s been on, even on her daytime tv-show set with her very sarcastic and veiled mean-spirited one liners for her audience/pals that were meant to show how ‘down with the people’ and ‘dry/sarcastic’ her humor is.
            My only hope for her happiness because i think she will ultimately be alone, is that Bryn is bringing her real true happiness and that she isn’t forcing it onto herself or Bryn to make up for all the ‘damages’ her mother inflected on her. I hope she is truly happy with Bryn. That is the only thing, along with her success that will make her happy in her life i truly feel. I hope Bryn doesn’t develop major issues with having a mother who felt she herself had to over-compensate for her own mother/daughter issues.

            Haggard is because she has food problems, whether she wants to disguise them as that “she found her way to eat ‘normally'” i don’t buy it. She has problems. She needs 10 lbs. minimum to look normal. It’s not healthy for her and it’s just recycling the eating issues cycle onto her daughter that she had with her ‘monster’ mother. She’s a control freak in her life, that lends itself spectacularly to being a control freak with food.

            ——————————————–
            I thought they met during non-filming season- and she was just at Tenjune, the club- and happily posed for some pictures for something, or with fans. I had not known that. Most single men hit those types of clubs in NYC, i am not sure if Jason knew what Real Housewives were, or that she was on that. But yeah, he would have figured out she was on some show. I mean, i don’t get his initial attraction since she was so sour-pussy-faced, but everyone is attracted to everyone for crazy reasons.

        • Mene Seela says:

          It’s not nice to taae personal digs at each other – humorously or otherwise. It is just a horrible way to vent at your partner. B & J both did it. Shame on them.

          Wasn’t that our fist sign of the real trouble between Adrinne and Paul – how she spoke about him. The first thing she said about him on tv was about his squeeky shoes.

    • Mene Seela says:

      I think they both loved each other. Considering their very different backgrounds and their recent circumstances it probably shouldn’t surprsie anyone that they couldn’t get on the same page. It might look great on paper to have such differing views on family and just about everything …

      • VV says:

        I think they did too. They dated for almost a year before they got married. These are two adults that knew what they were getting into. Once she got her million with the Bean deal, she started to see flaws on her husband. Money and fame changed her. I’m sorry IMO it did.

        • Mene Seela says:

          I almost forgot about their miscarriage. Just too much stuff. I blame them both equally.

          • VV says:

            She pushed him and pushed him and pushed him. If he was a Bloomberg, it would be a different story. She’s a user.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              How did she use him?

            • PJ says:

              Exactly how did she use him?

            • chismosa says:

              i’m with you VV. I want to know who does B have in her life from YEARS AND YEARS ago that are still with her now? Where? There have not been the same ‘friends’ that were in the show years ago, to the show last year. Not.
              I hope even Bryn’s godmother gets to see her once in a while. Well, for the cameras i’m sure she will.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                Bethenny has said that she has had the same friends for years-they were on the show with her. I dont remember their names but one was from Florida and the other was the one who hire Gina first.

                • chismosa says:

                  yup and that one from florida was not in her wedding party and i never even saw her at the wedding. The close friend she visited in Miami who she told her eggs were ‘getting old’ to.
                  Where has the friend that was in the wedding party been? We never saw her come to visit Brynn and surely B would have put that on the seasons with Bryn. I wonder ….

                  Mmmhmmm

                  • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                    The one from Florida was her drunk maid of honor-she was in the bridal area with her driving Bethenny nuts with her nervousness.

                  • Cartwheels says:

                    The one from Florida was her maid of honor, she most definitely was in her wedding party. there is plenty of pictures of them everytime Bethenny visits Miami, they are still very good friends.

                  • chismosa says:

                    yes i’m not talking about her— i’m talking about the blonde she visited during S1 when she was ‘running’ from her relationship with Jason 1, the one who told her about the eggs. NOT the wedding party one. Where has wedding party one been, i wish we’d seen more of her in Beth’s show, i guess she never came up to visit during filming.

    • Brandi really helped her pal Lisa V out didn’t she. I’m sure Brandi’s sit down got Lisa’s new show a lot more publicity than it ever would have had without Brandi’s help. Just sayin’

      As far as Bethenny & Jason go, what do we know? I’m sorry that they split, but hey who could survive a relationship that is under the microscope like that, all on a reality show. Bethenny wanted to talk about overcoming relationship challenges on her talk show. Maybe Jason felt he was more of a topic for her tv show than a real husband? Who knows. How can you possibly have a great relationship while under all the pressure they’ve gone thru in so few years.

      I was going to watch B on Ellen, even taped it. After reading here, I just deleted it. Ellen is trying to keep the shine on her new project, B’s talk show. Good luck Bethenny, you are going to have to dig deep & find strength to keep up your spirits & have a successful talk show too.

      • chismosa says:

        But Blue Sky you said it right there— who could survive a relationship under the microscope. Who chose to be under a microscope? Bethenny did.

    • chismosa says:

      not sure if anyone will see, i realize it’s late. I caught the end of the waterworks on Ellen, but:

      I never saw Jason as trying to ‘change’ Bethenny- she made it clear to him from the GET that she was ‘such damaged goods’, that she ‘grew up with animals’, etc…
      People don’t realize that Bethenny grew up quite very well taken for– financially. She embellishes the emotional stuff, but- financially she grew up big- and i think that set her apart from small-town Jason as well. She thumbed her nose up at that. IMO.
      She had a very big sweet 16 in a very nice waterfront area here in NY, she lived (as she said on one of her first WWH appearances), in a very high middle class area in Long Island. She went to an exclusive boarding school in Miami. She got gigs working production in Los Angeles. She was not molested, hit by her parents, left on the street to beg for food— because if these things happened wouldn’t she have LOVED her fans to know this??? It would help each of her fans with their deep problems . vomit.
      She embellishes how ‘hard’ she grew up when in FACT she grew up very well. Her one bedroom near Jill where she lived for most of RH’s- is in a VERY good area, i don’t care what she was saying about ‘i can’t even make rent’. Then why do you live in that area? Live in the lower east side, live in a cheap part of Brooklyn, live in cheaper area then… you chose to live up in the ritzy area.

      So this is why she looked DOWN on Jason and his small-town ways. I am from Long Island a very hoity toity area sometimes- and i’ve BEEN to near Jason’s area, i have extended friends-of-family in Harrisburg and Pottsville, PA. Am i going to turn my nose down? What the hell? Just because Jason has friendships he had sustained for years and parents who actually stuck together and decide to go to church once a week they are all aliens to her. She was very snooty about it IMO.

      – i think he wanted to be her companion and make her feel safe. Why would Jason want a fixer-upper? I think he was content to be a companion, as his parents are to eachother. I think he was happy to explore their relationship together and then whoopsie, someone forgets her b.c. pills and guess what, fast forward and ring on finger. That’s JMO.
      Am i going to fault Jason because he wanted his mother to maybe become close with his wife who ‘never knew a mother’s love’ – according to Bethenny. The woman lost a son, also never had a daughter, how enjoyable would it have been to become close to her? Ughhh

      When did Bethenny downplay her success to Jason? She was clear to him always, she wanted to involve him (to me, in a patronizing way sometimes).

      We don’t have to worry about her future love life. Bethenny will run the other way when she meets the other men in her life, after she spends the requisite 1-2 years with them.

      I never saw Jason as this huge ‘hero’ everyone touts him here to be? When was he showed as that? If anything the poor guy had to take the brunt of the leftover despair his parents had after his brother died in his 20s. My psych 301 classes taught me that the ‘leftover’ child after the death of a previous child has to live up to the notoriety of that first, lost child. If anything, it was harder for Jason!

      I never got that he was this ‘star’. Where does everyone get that from? Do you know HOW MANY small town men live in Manhattan? I don’t think they are all stars in their homes? When Jason was happy, and himself, around his friends and family- i never got the ‘star’ treatment/ only child syndrome from him. But i guess we all see it so subjectively.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I always felt that Jason tried to get Bethenny to be more like him-“NORMAL”-that’s what I mean by change. And Jason knew that Bethenny was not going to be BFF’s with his mother-its not her style-at all. he pushed it on her and she pushed away-what the hell did he expect?
        Just because she grew up going to exclusive boarding schools and having a sweet 16 doesn’t change what her life was. I don’t care how many parties your parents throw for you-when they dont love you or want you-it must suck. I dont know if its true or not but from what we saw of her relationship with her Dad at the end-their wasnt much love. And we know her mother is no prize either!! Maybe they didnt beat the shit out of her but they sure as hell didnt teach her what love means. Now she can figure that out with her daughter…and without the pressure of trying to be so NORMAL!!

        • chismosa says:

          yeah i get what you’re saying Jill, totally.

          My only hope is Bethenny doesn’t over-force something with Bryn. To overcompensate for her mommy issues she had. I hope Bryn comes out ok on the other end with no issues herself

          I come from a mother who did not have a mother, and there are books written about how mothers who were not raised with their own mothers are very different moms. My relationship with my mom is EXTREMELY strong due to this. Like, Madonna, and the other stars whose names escape me- that didn’t have moms growing up. Bethenny had a physical mom, just not an emotional one.

          I still stand by my theory that she embellished her hardships to be more appealing and add to her sarcastic ‘schtick’.

  27. BB says:

    I read were the Boston mayor has declared a flu emergency. I hope our boston is OK. Has anyone seen her on Chatzy or elsewhere lately?

  28. VV says:

    Does anybody remember the date when Bethenny stopped following Lynn on Twitter and the date when she started following Lynn on Twitter again?

    • IceNFire says:

      no, but i’m very curious as to why you’re asking

    • VV I don’t recall Bethenny following Lynn again, once she stopped.

    • chismosa says:

      um WEIRD

    • VV says:

      The answer that B gave Lynn for un following her was never convincing to me. Months later B started to follow a fake LynnNChicago account for days. I remember Lynn and others tweeting B she was following a fake account and eventually B un followed fake account and started to follow LynnNChicago again. So, she did it while Lynn was still with us.
      I was hoping some people here remember the dates…

      • chismosa says:

        VV i’m actually glad to hear this, i was under the impression that B had stopped following Lynn and then that was IT. After, i guess, Lynn was ‘helpful’ – if you will, B dropped her. But to know she came back around – before Lynn’s passing ?– is nice to hear.

        • T-Rex says:

          B stopped following lynn when THE LUNATIC accused B of being in collusion with Lynn regarding the IHJZ website around the time the first season of BEA was being aired. After that airing I noted that B was again following Lynn, for sure she was following her at the time it was announced that THE LUNATIC had been fired, because I went to B’s twittter on the Net at that time and out of curiosity checked to see if she was still following Lynn and she was

  29. Powell says:

    The Maloofs are near to a deal to move their team to Seattle.

  30. VV says:

    Iguana Angel will blog about Bethenny’s divorce. I’m not a fan but she has been correct on occasions when it comes to B.

    • Powell says:

      Don’t like her.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Me either…and she has hated Bethenny forever. She is probably doing a dance about the divorce.

    • chismosa says:

      VV i’ll have to keep my eye out. I absolutely hate how she was about Lynn, but she was (i guess, somewhat??) nice about Lynn’s untimely passing.

      I’d like to hear her ‘take’ with a grain of salt. I watched Ellen, it was interrupted by some stupid news here so i missed the start of the tears, but i hope i can catch it online or something
      She looks so emaciated. It looked to be just a complete CONFIRMATION to viewers and doubters out there, that yes, this show is starting as scheduled in September. I laughed when Bethenny said ‘her family’ is in NY. What? Her only family is Brynn now.

    • melthehound says:

      Now that she has been mentioned, I was watching movie the other day called “This Is 40”. The husband, or wife, or both, happened to be Jewish and for some reason, Blogs were mentioned (I forget why, now). In answer to a ‘which blog’ question, one of them said Jewish Journal.. I about choked on my lunch… Is that solely Her blog or does she just write for them?

      • VV says:

        There are other bloggers at JJ. I don’t know if Iguana writes elsewhere.

      • chismosa says:

        i think she is just one writer there, with her own column. She may be the only ‘featured’ columnist but i don’t know.
        Is Angel her real last name? I don’t know these things…. she was so nasty back in the day.

  31. Powell says:

    AIG is now back peddling that they won’t sue the Fed Govt after public & Congress outrage. Who in the hell told them to sign on the dotted line if they thought the terms, i, e interest rate was too high. They could’ve just went bankrupt. A**holes. And they wanted to hire me. When I was laid off by another bailedout bank & I was looking for a job

    • Powell says:

      Oops.
      They called me. I had no intention on working for them but went to the interview out of curiosity. If I can help it I’ll never work for a financial institute again.

      • Powell, it’s that jerk ex-ceo Hank Greenberg. He’s still suing, because he says the shareholders lost money — I kid you not —- because he claims the Gov. treated AIG unfairly! Un-freaking-believable. Why don’t the shareholders sue that ass*hole Greenberg for taking the company down with all the crazy derivative investments that they did?? Greenberg claims that banks were treated better than AIG. So AIG was a bank?? I thought they sold insurance! But h*ll no, Greenberg is blaming the US Gov. for unfair treatment. Damn**it all to H*ll I wish AIG had gone bankrupt. Then where would this ass*hold Greenberg be? Really, I would love to see this ass*hole ex-ceo go to jail for what he did to AIG, and what he is responsible for doing to the shareholders. Thank God the current CEO & board decided not to join Greenberg’s lawsuit. I was watching CNBC and now I’m mad at Maria Bartiloromo too because she seems to think Greenberg has a case!

        • Powell says:

          blue AIG is an insurance company but the lines became blurred w/deregulation. Insurance companies now sell banking products, i.e. mortgages, checking Accra, savings, CDs & banks sell insurance products, i.e. Annuities. When I worked for the bank I had an insurance license to sell insurance on loans. I can’t remember who was President that opened the dereg can of worms but they should have left that part of banki alone and put more regulations on them so that they couldn’t create synthetic derivatives. Synthetic alright. I remember when the CEO of Goldman Sachs was being grilled he couldn’t even explain what synthetic derivatives were. The stockholders should be suing Greenberg. He was greedy just like the rest & took the company down.

        • Powell says:

          And there are so many bank CEOs that belong in jail for the collapse of the economy, employees losing their jobs & stockholders losing money in their personal investments and 401Ks.

        • Powell says:

          Blue more AIG damage control. Just saw a commercial w/them saying they are helping Hurricane Sandy victims. They ought to be ashamed but I know they’re not.

      • NJBev says:

        Good for you, Powell.
        I wish your integrity was contagious.

    • Mene Seela says:

      I wished all the people in our goverment 20 years ago who thought it was a great idea for Fanny and Freddie to back no doc loans and other high risk loans were also held accountable. This was a problem developed over a long time.
      So easy to point the finger at the last men standing and not to go after intiators of the problem. They all let us down.

  32. IceNFire says:

    I’m still trying to catch up with my dvr’d shows. I just watched Lisa on Wendy’s show and it seemed like she said Adriennes secret isn’t about a surrate and whispered something that I didn’t catch.
    Did anyone hear what Lisa whispered?

    • Powell says:

      I couldn’t hear it.

      • IceNFire says:

        ty Powell – I’m racing thru these shows faster than the speed of light. I just got caught up on Downton Abbey and now I’m tempted to download the rest of season 3

    • kit9 says:

      I think it’s that Paul isn’t their real father. Hey, was anyone else annoyed by Yolanda’s comments about her daughter playing athletics? I thought her comments were just awful. Telling her daughter it’s either modeling or volleyball? Who discourages their kid from being active and involved? Oh, someone who thinks sports make a woman masculine. And eat like a man. And, of course, be a lesbian, which she can’t have. Cause, you know, women who are athletic are all dikes. Ugh! Moronic and homophobic all at once.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Yolanda is annoying in general-she came on the show so everyone could see how wonderful she is because she cooks dinner for her family…since I do that every single night of my life I must be equally wonderful!!!

        • Her husband the man with a thousand grammies is starry eyed about her actually knowing how to cook. Says a lot about his ex wives! The lesbian daughter because she plays sports is gorgeous. I wish she would tell Yoyo to jump off a short pier or to just get lost. Uggghhhh I liked Yoyo until her last bit on RHOBH.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            How about the way her husband went on and on that she knows how to cook and keep a house-like its a lost art or something?? And he said it like he wanted to follow up with “she knows her place”…He annoys me as much as she does!!!

      • IceNFire says:

        If Paul isn’t the father then the kids have no biological connection to either of them? imo Adriennes eggs were ‘spoiled’ by the time of conceptio ” Adrienne is a hermaphrodite ” rumor

        • IceNFire says:

          hmm – typing while lying down clearly doesn’t work, sry

          • NJBev says:

            yeah, well, you’re right. She’s too OLD for her eggs
            to be viable.
            Way too old. I am soooo tired of these “hollywood” types
            who just act like it was “this easy” to have children when they
            are well into their 40s, and everyday American Women
            who finally have their career in tow believe these assholes
            that they “just” got pregnant. They believe if Jennifer Lopez,
            who SWEARS that she got pregnant naturally at age 38-39
            after years of trying that they can too.

      • chismosa says:

        that is so funny because to me Yolanda is so big-framed, sort of manly in a way. Ironic

    • melthehound says:

      I think the secret is, there is none. Made for TV BS and the secret is Bravo thinks the public is a bunch of idiots.

      • TexasTart says:

        Awww, come’on, you know you want it to be some personal deep.dark secret that will make Adrienne look like a liar!

    • Just Wondering In Jersey says:

      Lisa whispered that she would tell Wendy later. And then Wendy turned to the audience and said she would tell them later. We shall see if she says anything in her Hot Topics.

  33. Powell says:

    Missoni, his wife, 2 friends & 2 pilots are still missing. So sad.

    • lot of small plane accidents lately, it is sad

    • chismosa says:

      The other day our papers here in NY were saying that this is not the first time a plane has disappeared in the similar location off the coast of Venezuela. So i said to myself, – oh my god, like a Bermuda Triangle.
      So then yesterday the paper said scientists are thinking there MAY be a new area of a sort of Bermuda Triangle out there!

      I do NOT trust small planes! All the accidents we hear about on our news here are about them!
      But i’m not a scared flyer in general at all (that is when you have control issues, fyi, psych 101)– i LOVE flying. I ain’t no Aviva Drescher.
      But every few weeks here in ny we hear on the news of a small plane that went down, JFK jr. style. I just don’t trust it.

      • Powell says:

        Yeah I’ve heard about a plane missing in Venezuela in mountainous areas before. I just hope they find them alive.

        • I Need A Life! says:

          I bought one of those Missoni Laptop covers at Target. Just love it. I read that the area where the plane is lost has had 15 planes missing. That’s why they call it the new Bermuda Triangle. They even speculate it has something to do with the lost island of Atlantis!

          • chismosa says:

            That’s interesting, i have to read more on that– i thought they already decided Atlantis was totally in the Aegean/ Mediterranean? hmmm

            Yes, i remember those Missoni things @ Target sold out in like 1 day and their website crashed or something. Bethenny was wearing some of the stuff during her show one season. Of course she can afford the real high priced stuff too.

            • chismosa says:

              speaking of this plane crash, i really really REALLY miss my show Lost. Oh those were good days when that was on! such an obsession

              • LaineyLainey says:

                I know, right? Not to make light of real plane crashes, but LOST was an event, wasn’t it? I and some friends watched it together – we’d have a potluck – wine, LOST,…it was so much fun.

  34. Powell says:

    My mom just told me Vicki Gunvalson was in a snowboarding accident. Another snowboarder cut her off. She’s in a neck brace.

    • BB says:

      There’s a blog about it over on the Bravo site. One of the Dish blogs.

    • T-Rex says:

      Powell she fell on the mountain we have all fallen when skiing but IckyVicky parlayed her shite into a story or mrashaybe her excuse as a “beg off” to the TrailerTrashTrampySue party with her gay boyfriend

      • T-Rex says:

        grr been using an Ipad and it changes words and hit some stuff to add letters grr not mrashashaybe but maybe

        • Powell says:

          Hahaha. T-Rex you crack me up. mrashashaybe is maybe?!? I thought you made up another new word. That iPad is worse than my Android phone. 🙂

          • TexasTart says:

            LOL! me too! I read it a 2nd time slow…mrashashable…..hmm…just who is T-Rex referring to?! 😀

    • Mene Seela says:

      “another snowboarder cut her off”?? Has anyone spotted Donn at the same ski resort??

  35. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    So happy Nashville is back tonight-does anyone watch???

  36. princesspindy says:

    Bravo wanted to repossess the stuff from Lindsay Lohan’s Million Dollar Decorator appearance!!
    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/01/bravo-wanted-to-repossess-lindsay-lohans-furniture-gifted-to-lindsay-lohan/

  37. hey Nancy pants I have to google everything cuz I can’t remember any of the names of the people on the shows, which can be a problem when I forget the name of the show too!!! I can’t blame my iphone because I don’t have one darn. 🙂

    • Nancy says:

      Thanks bluesky. IF I slowed down in life I would catch my own mistakes.
      I always have many things going on in head at the same time. It drives
      myself crazy as well with the people in my life. I am looking forward to the
      next season of Smash. 🙂

      I just watched Bethenny on the Ellen show. Her tears were not fake.
      Very sad to see. (((Bethenny)))

  38. BB says:

    Is anybody watching Stars in Danger?

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I just can’t. Can’t bring myself to watch it.

      • IceNFire says:

        west coast here but I have it set to record later… is it any good?

        • BB says:

          It just started so the jury’s out.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          So far they are just diving into a swimming pool…I dont know when the danger part comes in? I was thinking it was going to be something different…more like Fear Factor for celebs

          • IceNFire says:

            2 hours of diving? Does any network think the Richard sisters have that big of a fan base?

          • BB says:

            No it’s just diving. If you don’t do it right it’s dangerous enough by itself.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Im scared to dive…always have been. I was just thinking it was a different kind of show-when I hear “Danger” I think snakes and car chases and jumping off buildings…not diving.

      • T-Rex says:

        Sorry for me its stupid I have taught my 5 and 7 year old neice and nephew to dive better than this. I have never been formally trained and have been around diving boards my entire life, this show is stupid seriously at 10 I could do both of the dives done by kim, kyle and that alexandra person, our pool in our town had the high dive levels they are doing because we had folks training for olympic trials at the same pool

        • BB says:

          I would think that being born and raised in Beverly Hills, these women could have done a little better than they did. But they probably laid by the pool more than they were actually in the pool. Lol.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I just put it on

    • TexasTart says:

      Yes, I’m watching, Kyle is uber confident in her entrance. She’s such a ham.

    • BB says:

      Does anyone think this show is a little cheesy? Kind of like Skating with the Stars was?

      • TexasTart says:

        Yes, that’s a good comparision, BB. I might have lasted longer with skating 😉

      • T-Rex says:

        BB it’s worse than that at least people were actually skating on the show. Uhm standing backwards on a diving board and jumping in is NOT a dive, should have known how lame that was going to be

  39. IceNFire says:

    I just noticed that my dvr is set to record MTV’s Real World but now it says Washington Heights, a reality show following a group of friends. Real World follows a group of strangers, wonder what happened to Real World.

  40. Powell says:

    Does anyone watch Full Throttle Saloon on TruTV? I haven’t seen it this season. I’m trying to catch some while watching The Middle. I was surprised I would like FT when it came on 2 seasons ago but I like it.

    • JustDee says:

      I was just catching up! I didn’t realize it had a new season until I saw BB’s viewing guide. (THANKS BB!!) Have the new one set to record because I MUST watch the Amish Mafia finale, lol.

      • Powell says:

        I wanted to watch Amish Mafia. I’m sure I can catch up on reruns.

        • JustDee says:

          I hadn’t seen it till last weekend there was a marathon.Crazy show! Only 5 episodes in the season though 😦

      • Powell says:

        I’m watching The Neighbors. This show is so crazy its funny. I switching to FT also.

        • mrspeabody says:

          You would have loved the one where the alien wife pretended to be a Real Housewife of New Jersey. It was so funny.

    • powell…love full throttle..the season is over but it’s repeating..watched it into the early a/m ,,, also new show..the joe schmo…on spike..omg..you have got to watch it..lol lol lol

  41. T-Rex says:

    I am watching old episodes of Duck Dynasty and turning on Mr Trex to the show and he is loving it! A&E us running them right now

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I love that Duck Dynasty-the best thing is it is always on-they play it so many times its easy to catch episodes here and there.

    • Powell says:

      I love that show. I love how they relate as a family. They don’t take themselves seriously.

  42. Sus says:

    At around the 5 minute mark in the Ellen interview, Bethenny said that on her bad days, the audience will help her through them. I find that so incredibly sad sad sad. I see Bethenny’s heart as like the Grinch before his grew.

    I’m hard on Bethenny because I don’t feel like she gave her marriage a chance. Maybe it was an impossible situation. But maybe it was that they were dating for a hot minute, got pregnant, all while have a reality show along with SkinnyGirl, plus a huge home renovation. It makes sense to let the dust settle some and see how it’s going to go. I hope they gave real counseling a try with a real therapist.

  43. Nancy says:

    Lance Armstrong is going to give his first interview after getting his 7 titles stripped.
    This should be a good one. I bet he still won’t come clean, excuse the pun.

    • chismosa says:

      He will never come clean about it. Though all the media experts say it’s in his best interest to do so, disappear for a few years, then come back into the public eye because everyone loves to forgive. :/

      CHEATER

  44. BB says:

    OK. It’s been almost one hour and these stars have only done one dive apiece. I’m out.

  45. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I just talked to my little sister and told her Tamra was coming to town for her bachelorette party…her response “Oh I know, my friend bought me a ticket for my birthday”…I cant believe we are related sometimes!!!!

    • Mene Seela says:

      LOL. Well she can take one for the team here and let you share all the details. She won;t even look at as a sacrifice.

    • TexasTart says:

      Jill – I saw your response to the Tamra news upthread and though it was hilarious! What a twist that you can give details on one you would prefer not! Now if you do share with us, you do -or don’t tell sis?!

    • IceNFire says:

      LoL – ” There are many great qualities MJ has and I love her (even though we are currently not on speaking terms), however she is a liar and cannot keep it real”

      • TexasTart says:

        LOL!
        BTW that Catfish episode.was good, not pnlh was Nev.fooled (and understandably so!) but that Rose chick actually participated in filming prior to the reveal! As you know… 😉 anyway that was worthy. It still blows my mind that she and others have no remorse……wow 😐

        • IceNFire says:

          I know! Bunch of sick people on Facebook, I would Never give my phone number to a Facebook friend but I guess it happens a lot.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Asa is full of it.

  46. Mene Seela says:

    This sign was on my facebook stream this week:
    “I honestly believe some women do not fart, They hold it in and it comes out as drama.”

    • TexasTart says:

      That might be true, ha!

    • Laineylainey says:

      That could explain why I rarely cause drama. Tmi?

      • Nancy says:

        Laineylainey,
        I was hoping I would see you tonight. I think your daughter would
        like this video. I could watch these all day long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRu2RQwBPic

        • Laineylainey says:

          I finally watched the other one about the national English ballet. Did you see my post? It was great. I will watch this one right before bed..so nice to cast my eyes upon such beauty it enforcing fall asleep. Ballet is the most beautiful thing the human body can do … Don’t you thnk?

          • Laineylainey says:

            Before falling asleep!

          • Nancy says:

            Did you see them doing The Nutcracker? Yes I saw your post.
            That’s why I love figure skating as it’s ballet on Ice. We had to take on ice and
            off ice ballet classes right from the beginning. I agree it’s beautiful to watch.
            I’d love to see your daughter dance on day.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              No, Nancy, I didn’t watch the nutcracker one. The next one I was planning to watch was the romeo and Juliette one…because of all the guyssssss. I know, I’m bad. You must have a ton of ballet in your background. I don’t know if my daughter will continue dancing. We’ll see if doors open for her in that area. She’s moving to L.a. in march to pursue modeling – – she sounds like those kids on VRules, right? She will go out for dance auditions too. I’ll keep you posted. She’s in Turkey now with her boyfriend but returns in a couple of weeks.

  47. VV says:

    FACT:
    Bethenny filmed 35 episodes on the 3 seasons of her show on Bravo. Jason filmed 18 times. These statistics are from IMDb.

  48. djprincessc says:

    Totally random but just thought I’d share this, this is one of the reasons why sex scares me these days! lol.

    http://globalgrind.com/news/cdc-finds-incurable-strain-gonorrhea-details

    • chismosa says:

      Hey DJ how are you!? I’ve been hoping to catch you and Detox on here together one day but i know she’s not back ‘yet’.

      I just know Chelsea Handler is going to have some bit about this….

      • djprincessc says:

        Hiiiiiiii Chismosa!!! I’m good how are you!!!?!?!? I’ve been kinda busy but nothing crazy, I actually have been meaning to let everyone on here know that last Friday I went out on a date and it was A DATE FROM HELL, actually date from hell is an understatement. Up until now I have been pretty lucky and had never been on a bad one, well there goes my record! lol.

        And yes I can totally picture Chelsea making jokes about this! She loves her STDS. haha!

  49. mrspeabody says:

    Just saw Heather Dubrow is going to be on Reba McEntire’s new show Friday night.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I was gonna be a butt and say “whoopdy freakin’ do” – – but that’s actually pretty good. Good for her.

  50. LisaWexler says:

    Bethenny has thrown everyone under the bus including Lynn Hudson. Now she goes crying to Ellen to win the PR battle.

    • Cartwheels says:

      How is the radio show going? Now that your sister is no longer on the spot light I bet is hard to come by some guests, LOL

      P.S. I know you are not the real one, your name just made me laugh.

  51. lillybee says:

    I saw a bit of that stupid diving show. The praise for the Richards sisters was so over the top it was funny. I am glad that this is just a one time show.

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