What Really Happened at the beginning of Season 3 of Dance Moms / Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Cast Blogs Blogged

What Really Happened at the Beginning of Season 3 of Dance Moms? and Other Gossip by NoMoreDrama

Move over housewives, today I’m obsessed with Abby Lee Miller and her band of crazy mothers and talented girls.  We’re three episodes into Season 3 of the show, and things are changing.  For one, the show is a huge hit and the mothers realize that they’ve got a solid 15 minutes of fame that they need to capitalize on.

Episode 1 had all of the dancers returning with an Open Call for casting, that brought in a new girl – Ally.  Brooke and Paige were missing, but no one ever explained if they had been banned from the dance team or if Kelly had quit.  Turns out it was probably neither.  Brooke had Homecoming.

Episode 2 showed the other mothers uniting to “Bring back Kelly, Brooke and Paige”  Nice storyline, but apparently not true.  First of all, there is no evidence that Kelly was actually gone from the team.  Second of all – why would they do that if Kelly had left willingly?  They didn’t stage a fuss when Brooke was replaced last season when she quit to be a cheerleader.

Here’s what went down.  I got most of my information from this site, which is a chat forum for Dance Moms.  The people that comment on this site know as much about dancing as we do about housewives.

Leadup to the Second Performance:

Blowup Wednesday Night, October 17th ….

Christi  Just another day in the life:trapped in a car with 5 silly girls and a couple of slap happy moms.”

Jill: “All I can say…what a crazy night! Spent 5 hours sitting in the ALDC parking lot with my dance moms and the girls. “

Abby to Jill:  “what an idiot! What did your child learn? Not as much as your older daughter learned taking my class!”

The next day:

Christi  I could tweet so many things right now, but it’s SO not worth it. The truth will come out someday and we’ll be the ones with the last laugh.”

Melissa:  Why is tomorrow cancelled?!?” circumstances beyond our control 

Ok – that all played out like we saw on the show.  The question is WHY?

(And for those of you that don’t watch the show – by Saturday Abby had three new dancers plus Ally Serigne who had joined last week.  All three new dancers flew in, which meant they must have flown in Thursday or Friday, learned a routine and preformed it that weekend.  Is that possible?  I suppose so if they wanted to be on TV badly enough.  My guess is Abby has a list of girls that would drop everything to be on the show.)

Fan to Abby: “So @BrookeHyland1 is 14 has a single, has one a bunch of titles and is on a tv show… Im 14 and i sit at home and watch her do all this…”

Abby:  “that’s because @Abby_Lee_Miller has been in her life since age 3! We have an amazing relationship&it’s severed

(Ouch – she’s saying her relationship with Brooke is severed.)

By now word had spread that Abby had brought a new group of girls to a competition ….

Fan to Abby:  “The original crew needs to come back! If they don’t I’m not watching”

Abby:  then tell them to stop boycotting and start dancing! Common sense!  “

Jill: “Trouble in paradise!!”

Fan to Jill:  “whats going on with the Dance Moms girls being replaced? is this a publicity stunt or am I never going to see Kendall again?”

Jill:  “def not a publicity stunt!! #abbyhasissues”

Abby to Jill:  “might be time to change that name! “


Holly:  “I believe in the power of prayer. I have faith everything happens for a reason.”

Abby to Holly:  “when you so rudely shoved a tablet in my face you didn’t seem too Christian? Hallelujah!”


Holly to Abby: “I will continue to pray for your soul.”


Christi to Holly:  Good luck with that one!!”

Abby spills the beans:

Abby:  Get the story straight! tell everyone-original moms&kids r holding out 4 season 3! I’m faithful to Lifetime! doing my job!

Now here are some interesting ones.  This is an exchange between Abby and Angel and Victor – the two coaches from Dance Moms Miami.  Dance Moms Miami was not renewed for a second season and perhaps there is some bad blood between the coaches.

Angel to Christi (perhaps in response to the good luck with that one quip) “this it’s why u r my favorite! THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE! What they do in the dark eventually will come out in the light”

Abby to Angel (with Kristi in the loop) LOL you have been set free – maybe she’ll join you?”

Angel to Abby: “we would love to have them!”

Angel to Jill:  “Keep being you I rather be a dance teacher that inspires kids, them a monster to be famous on tv! I’m a dancer not an actor”

Victor:  “Angel and I teach through love NOT fear. @StarsDanceCo is not perfect, but we bring a loving, inspirational environment to our kids”

Abby to Angel:  “U ran Dance Moms Miami-of all ppl U should realize the Moms r holding up production w demands via their Atty! This is not me!”

(So that seems to be the reason – the moms were holding up production with demands via their attorney? – mo’ money I assume).

Fan to Holly: “Can you share whats happening with all the original 7. It’d be helpful to know the difference between truth and rumors!

Abby replies:  “ugly truth is the Moms r holding up production w/demands via Atty! It is sad &selfish &detrimental 2 the kids dance training!”

Abby:  “Hi ho hi ho off to work I go! While the dance moms refuse to show up again? How do moms w/0 talent+constant complaining get pay raise&perks?”

Finally – about a week later – October 25th – Thursday ….

Melissa: “We are with our ALDC family!!!”

And there you have it.  They were holding out for a raise!

So next up – I’m trying to figure out how long Sophia Lucia stays with the show.   Abby tweeted this photo of her and two other girls this week – so I don’t think we’ve seen the last of that talented little girl.

Look at those abs (Abby Lee Miller tweeted this photo to promote RGDance at Abby Lee Dance Company this week).

Look at those abs (Abby Lee Miller tweeted this photo to promote RGDance at Abby Lee Dance Company this week).


In other gossip, Kelly Bensimmon has a new boyfriend, Million Dollar Listing Bravolebrity Ryan Serhant.  They met at a fundraiser for hurricane sandy in December and have been dating since.  Perhaps both Kelly and Adrienne Maloof are trying out for Bravo Cougars – because Ryan is 28 to Kelly’s 44.  Perhaps he never watched the Real Housewives of New York and doesn’t realize she’s nuts.  You can read more about it here.


Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Cast Blogs by Stars99

(All text in italics and quotes are excerpts of original cast blogs written by the respective housewives.  To read the cast blogs in their entirety please go to Bravotv.com – NMD).

Adrienne Maloof

“I want to sincerely thank Mauricio for stepping in on my behalf. I admire his sensibility and his level headedness. Mauricio has always been a gentleman and the voice of reason amongst the husbands.”

 I hadta laff at this one… “amongst the husbands” in all the land… okay… let’s count the RHOBH husbands:  Adrienne – Paul (Well, you did just divorce him and allegedly said he was abusive); Kyle – Mauricio (your realtor and defender); Lisa – Ken (no secret you don’t like Lisa and she doesn’t like you – I haven’t seen Ken do much talking on the show one way or another – but he does seem to like to carry around little dogs and made a romantic swing for his dahling AND willingly pushes her at her whim which makes big points as far as I’m concerned); Taylor, Camille, Brandi, Kim – No current husbands. Marisa and Yo don’t really count since this is their very first season and we haven’t seen much of them – much less of their husbands, although Dean, Marisa’s husband gets BIG props for being more concerned about dessert than the Moroccan dinner smack down.  So, not counting your own husband, Adrienne – you’re saying that Mauricio is a voice of reason basically between just him and Ken… Wow… such high praise, indeed!

 “I’ve heard from others that Brandi is sorry for what she said, but I have yet to hear it from her directly. If anyone should be upset in this situation, it should be me.”

 You are absolutely right that you are the one that should be upset in this situation. Brandi said something she shouldn’t have – she was out of line, way out of line.  However, you guys haven’t talked about it only because you are allegedly not answering Brandi’s phone calls or texts.  How is she supposed to talk to you about it if you block her attempts to do so?  Instead, you choose to run to your attorneys to have them initiate a cease and desist letter requiring Brandi to formally sign paperwork and threatening that if she didn’t do so, that your minions of lawyers would file a lawsuit on your behalf.  Last season, after Camille revealed information concerning Taylor’s alleging that her husband, Russell, was abusive to her – it only took a mere email from Russell that threated he would go to an attorney that was enough to cause Camille to run to her own attorney for advice.  Camille’s attorney seemed to advise her not to have any contact whatsoever with Taylor and Russell from that point forward.  You guys all were solidly on Camille’s side on this – you even said something like “friends don’t sue friends” implying that it was unconscionable for a friend to initiate a lawsuit against another friend.  I’ve been trying to play out in my mind the similarities and the differences in these two lawsuit happy situations:


~ Both threats of lawsuits resulted from statements that one person said about another person;

~ Both statements at their core were based on information that was widely understood to be true – Camille alleged Russell’s abuse based on her own (and the other housewives’) conversations with Taylor – whether the abuse actually happened or not – sadly, we’ll never know.  The truthfulness of Brandi’s information has never been called into question, to my knowledge.  It’s just that Brandi shouldn’t have blurted it out – Camille shouldn’t have either.

~ Both statements resulted in threats of a lawsuit.

~ Both statements resulted in lawyers getting involved. Camille, as a potential defendant, immediately got her attorney involved; You got your attorney to initiate the threat of the lawsuit itself.

~ Upon hearing what Brandi said, your very first instinct was to sue her.  You were getting information about what Brandi said from Kim – the queen of clear thinking in high stress situations and disseminator of reliable information, no? And yet, you did not want to clarify or confirm with anyone else that what Kim was saying actually transpired in the way that she was saying it.  Russell’s instinct was also to sue based on his wife’s account of what had happened.  His problem was that he believed his wife when she said she had never said anything to the others about him being abusive.  Yeah, right…

~ They were both pretty horrific accusations and could cause significant repercussions.  We don’t know what Brandi said – but it must be worse in your eyes than alleging mere spousal abuse because in your case, a lawsuit was the appropriate action to take.  I’m telling you, that if this is all only about your alleged surrogacy, I’m gonna flip a fig.

~Mauricio seems to side with the one who has arguably the best potential to be his future clients.  Remember that Kyle got in trouble with Mauricio when she got into a spat with Camille – and so she had to make nice-nice with her.  Adrienne and Camille clearly have more resources than Brandi and Taylor.  I mean it’s actually laughable, if it wasn’t so sad.


~ Russell’s threat was communicated via a personal email; yours was initiated formally through your attorney.

~ Russell, whose finances were quickly spiraling downwards, had everything to financially gain by such a lawsuit especially if it was going to be settled out of court since it was against Camille and thus, her then husband, Kelsey Grammer. You have nothing to gain from suing Brandi except that you might get a couple of her bikinis out of the deal.

~ Everyone seemed to agree with Camille’s attorney that she have no contact with Russell and Taylor until the issue was cleared up – and Taylor and Russell were even thrown out of a party thrown by the aforementioned person you called a “gentleman” – and this was all at your (Adrienne’s) specific urging!  Adrienne, you were adamant that Taylor and Russell should NOT even be allowed to attend the party. And this was after Camille had only received an email – and yet, somehow, Brandi, who received an official letter from your attorney is supposed to be able to pick up a phone and magically make this all go away?  Really?????????

~ Mauricio denied admittance to Taylor and Russell at his party to ensure there was absolutely no contact between Taylor/Russell and Camille after the threat of a lawsuit was made.  However, he badgers Brandi to informally call Adrienne after she had already been served an attorney’s letter threatening a lawsuit.

~ Camille was supported by everyone in following her attorney’s advice not to have any contact with Russell and Taylor.  However, Brandi was advised by Mauricio not to listen to her attorney.  Others also encouraged Brandi to just pick up the phone and talk to Adrienne.

~ Adrienne’s attorneys dictated to Bravo what they could air and what they couldn’t air.  However, we all heard loud and clear the outright the accusation that Russell abused Taylor.

“Mauricio thank you so much for having my back. . .Like my father, you are man of integrity.”

In all fairness – he defended Adrienne and her millions.  Pure and simple.

Brandi Glanville

Brandi starts out saying she’s glad that the whole Scheana thing is over – and that she’s looking forward to discovering “love” again.

 “So heading into this next dinner party, I have a lot on my plate having just been served with papers from Adrienne Maloof’s high-powered lawyer who asked me to either never have an opinion on or defend myself against Adrinenne and Paul again or to prepare for a court battle. I’m still unclear why it is OK for Adrienne (or her cook) to come after me and my family, but the second I fight back I’m served with lawyer papers. At this point most of the ladies don’t know the entire story of what went on between Adrienne, and but as we watch further they will see it unfold.”I’m not sure why you didn’t tell them a couple of the reasons why you were having issues with Adrienne – you know they’re gonna find out about it anyway.  Yes, Kyle’s inquiry was annoying, but you could have actually stated what your issues were with her rather than just blurting out the “secret heard round the world” – or not heard, if you’re an unfortunate viewer.  Wait… isn’t this WHOLE show being filmed for our entertainment? No? Oh wait… now I remember, it’s to promote books, crooks and pocketbooks.

 “Moving on to Lisa and Ken’s “swinging” it seemed so sexual to me. . .did anyone else get that vibe? Anyhow I think it was the most romantic thing ever for my boyfriend Ken to do that for his beautiful wife.”

 Romantic, yes… but sexual?  Brandi, dahling… get your mind out of the gutter.

“Dinner party from Beverly Hells!! I really enjoyed talking to Marissa, her brother Paul, and her husband Dean. They are all very likable people. All was good in the hood, until Mauricio decided to come after me for something that has absolutely nothing to do with him. He didn’t nearly have all the information and in what world does a married man and a father of four daughters have a go at a single mother at a dinner party? Thank you to Ken and Lisa for stepping in and trying to put a stop to it all. I so very appreciate it, but as we have learned many of times before I can and do defend myself!”

 Brandi, I gotta call “foul” on this one.  Marital status and the number of children should not enter into this entire argument.  I understand that Ken invoked the “poor Brandi, she doesn’t have a man to defend her” argument – but really, you just reconfirmed his position by playing the “single mother” sympathy card.  It’s too bad that Mauricio kept talking over your response about why you said what you said – it was because Kyle kept asking why you had an issue with Adrienne.  Mauricio was so set on demonstrating that the purpose of your comment was just to perpetuate rumored gossip that he neglected to find out that it was his own wife who was actually initiating said “gossip” through her questions to you.

 “Oh and listen up “Mo” no one is perfect — not even you — but you don’t see me coming after you! Maybe it’s just not my business to attack you for something that has NOTHING to do with me. Well what my “amazing brain” is telling me to do is to stay out of it. Man up and follow suit.”

 Oh, snap!  Wait… is that a threat?  Potential lawsuit?  No, wait… I’m sure Mauricio picked up the phone and apologized to you right after the dinner. No?  It wasn’t until after it aired and the tide of public opinion came out?

Kyle Richards

“Let’s start at Yolanda’s. The camera really doesn’t do her lemon orchard justice. Those lemons go on for DAYS! I have never seen so many lemons in my life. In front of the house, in the back, on the side. . .LOTS of lemons.  Yolanda invited me over and was going to show me how to do the Master Cleanse. I have a lot of friends that have done it, but I have a hard time with the idea of not eating for days. I want to be healthy, and I do eat healthy, but I also allow myself to indulge when I really want to. It didn’t taste bad at all — but I just couldn’t get myself to stick with it. I have always battled my weight and have tried EVERY diet imaginable. I’m just at a point in my life where being thin is not a priority. I’m willing to eat right and exercise, but not starve.”

 So why did you even pretend to be interested in the Master Cleanse?  I mean, I totally get not wanting to do it – but shouldn’t you have been upfront with Yo – and then you guys could have just relaxed and enjoyed the day together without pretending that you were actually going to do the cleanse.  It looked like to me that she even bottled some up for you to take home with you.

 “I am so happy and relieved to see my sister Kim strong and sober. She went through a lot over the years and I truly believe she is stronger than ever. It hurt me to hear her say to her life coach, “If you love someone, don’t you pull them aside in private and tell them they need help?” My family and I had done that for many years. Always in private. However, I understand her anger about that night in the back of the limo. It’s hard watching the show sometimes, especially since Kim and I are in such a great place right now. We are happy and finally able to be sisters again. We have to remind ourselves that things we have each said and done were in the past when we were both still angry, and to not let it affect where we are today. I will do everything in my power to keep it this way.”

 It’s understandable that there are many layers to the relationship between you and your sister.  I question the logic in your justification that since you had pulled her aside in private to tell her that she needed help for her alcoholism many times before – that you could then just tell the whole world about it in the limo?  Really, how does that even make any sense?  However, I do think Kim clearly implied that you and Mauricio had stolen the house in Palm Springs from her – and then you merely retaliated by telling the world she’s an alcoholic.  Kinda glad I don’t have a sister.  I’m actually glad you guys are in a good place relationshipwise.  I hope you guys can really figure this out so that your family thrives.

 “Later at the dinner party when Kim wanted to get into a serious conversation, my first thought was “Oh, no. Not here” I wanted to keep things “light” (as if that’s possible these days). But I was happy to hear what Kim was saying and know we needed to have those conversations, as uncomfortable as they can make me sometimes. It is difficult bringing up the past, and I am grateful we are at point today where we can have these discussions without arguing. We both understand each other more today than we ever have.”

 See, now, Kyle – this is where you make me crazy.  Your previous paragraph painted a picture that you both are trying to repair your relationship.  However, this paragraph reminds me that I was annoyed that it didn’t even seem like you were listening to your sister when she was trying to talk to you in a meaningful way. It may have been that you got a bad edit… but really, I’m surprised you didn’t at least pretend you were more interested in what she had to say – Even if it’s something like, “Kim, let’s sit down and really talk about things – I’m just  not comfortable doing it here and now.” Use your words, Kyle.

 “I have NEVER seen Mauricio like we all saw him in last night’s episode. He is always the calm one in any situation. However, he felt strongly about the subject matter. Adrienne and Paul stopped socializing with the group after what Brandi said. Mauricio and Paul are good friends and he was hearing from Paul the pain that they were going through. Mauricio felt that a phone call would benefit Paul, Adrienne, AND Brandi. That is how he deals with problems — directly.”

It’s hard to figure out why Adrienne and Paul stopped socializing with the group since we don’t know the nature of the “big secret.”  How on earth could Brandi wield such power to keep them away?  Could it possibly be that Adrienne’s lawyers told her not to have any contact with Brandi until the lawsuit issue was settled?  My guess is that is exactly what most lawyers would advise their clients in this situation. Therefore, I highly doubt that a phone call would have sufficed as an apology – since it surely would be held against Brandi in a court of law.  Which is why the call should never be made… don’t we ALL know that?  Well, that – and the fact I’m not entirely sure that Brandi could get through a phone call with Adrienne without completely exacerbating the whole situation.

Lisa Vanderpump

“Many have questioned my judgment in continuing to employ Scheana, but understand this, she had been working at Villa Blanca for almost four years and often picking up shifts in Sur. She had always been a reliable and good waitress. I had only been friends with Brandi a few months, or so at that time. One: legally I could not terminate her employment. And two: morally I wouldn’t. It was a personal situation, that until now, had been none of my business.”

 There are many reasons that you could probably justifiably terminate her employment – Her bad press could adversely affect your business, her code of conduct violations, her negative impact on the overall work environment, etc.  The fact that you’re loyal to your employee is admirable – I hope it doesn’t bite you on the dupa.

 “I spend time in my restaurant, sampling food, fiddling with flowers, then head on home. I hate surprises, but thought when Ken ordered me to close my eyes, I wondered if it was a new puppy. So when I saw the swing, covered in roses, and the heart-shaped flower bed it touched me. Just the thought behind it! That is what is the most important — when somebody you love tries to make you happy. It is never a monetary thing, or if it is it shouldn’t be. Many times Ken has overwhelmed me with ridiculously extravagant gifts. I have loved and appreciated them, but a sentimental gift, an act of love, will always trump that! (Ken if you are reading this, it doesn’t mean you are finished buying me jewelry!) Anyway, it was only a couple of months before our 30th wedding anniversary. . .Ken had wanted to renew our vows on our 25th. I wriggled out of that one! We had taken a few days alone on Lake Como. I would prefer it to be just between ourselves, that is where we differ. But after that sentimental gesture, how could I refuse?”

 Ken’s gesture was just so danged romantic, wasn’t it?  All of the sudden I got all envious that I didn’t have a swing. And the fact that Ken pushed you and you giggled with glee as you swung. How kewl was that?  Ken scored big points for that one… It truly is the thought that counts…

 “So back to our group. . .We are all meeting at a Moroccan restaurant, sans Adrienne and Paul. I had heard that they had removed themselves temporarily from our group. I had no idea where the individual relationships stood. I wondered if Kim would be hauled over the coals for not having Chad’s birthday at the Palms, but maybe she had a pass! I knew Kyle had contact with them, but as far as I could gather they had withdrawn from the circle.”

 Laffs at the obligatory barb about the Palms… Lisa is still cranky that she got so much grief from Adrienne about her daughter not having her bachelorette party there… lol

 “All seems to be going reasonably well, until the subject of the legal letter that was sent from Adrienne’s lawyer to Brandi. I am flabbergasted that it had come to this. I hadn’t been at Mauricio’s event and was unaware that Brandi had been called a drug addict and a terrible mother, but doesn’t that warrant a reciprocal letter? Should I have sued after the reunion for defamation and slander too?”

 Yes and yes.

 “All I know is that Brandi lives pretty frugally, paying her rent and struggling on a minuscule amount of alimony — with no extra for the luxury of litigious letters to friends who have crossed the line. Thankfully with this show and her book, things are beginning to flourish financially. The conversation starts to intensify, with once again, Brandi being the centre of the escalating discussion.”

 Fear not, Lisa – this will only solidify Brandi’s involvement on next season’s RHOBH.

 “Now as I remarked before in my previous blog, Ken will jump to the defense of a woman in need. Brandi was again under attack. Mauricio was chastising Brandi, and Ken was having none of it. That is a reason why I love him — that he will always be a protector and never let someone be intimidated, especially a woman.”

 I liked that he defended Brandi – but not because she was a woman, but because what was being said was just ludicrous, in my opinion.

Marisa Zanuck

“The kids and I are happy that Dean is back home. He was away shooting a movie with Matt Damon and oblivious to all the drama happening in Beverly Hills. LOL. This episode annoyed me so I’ll just get right into it…”

 I would be happy to volunteer to be an extra for the next movie… = )  Marisa goes on to say that she likes how Brandi is open and honest with everyone.  She wanted to create a time to get to know the other housewives a little better – and she actually thought it would be a “fun and easygoing evening.”  Really?  Have you ever seen one of these shows?

 “In walks Brandi looking so damn gorgeous as always, I cant stand it! Brandi announces that Adrienne is suing her! WTF! Kyle and I are shocked! I didn’t get into it because again, this issue doesn’t involve me, but that didn’t stop everyone else from jumping right in.”

 Yeah, we hate Brandi for being skinny and gorgeous.  Well, maybe that’s just me.  Of course people are going to jump into a situation that doesn’t involve them… this particular situation is Bravo gold – well, at least it was until the point where Bravo was told they couldn’t air a lot of it.  Lololol….

 “Let’s talk about Taylor; she seems to be a walking contradiction. Honestly, how does Taylor tell Lisa to find her a man in one breath and then in the other she starts playing the victim, talking about how she feels guilty dating, etc.? I think it B.S.”

 Snickers… a little… well, that… and the fact that Taylor should actually feel guilty about dating the guy she’s dating cuz they allegedly started dating while he was still married and very much together with his wife… at least according to his now ex-wife.

 “Yolanda then makes the mistake of asking Lisa about what’s going on with Brandi and Adrienne and the fire is now fueled. Brandi admitted that she shouldn’t have said it, but unfortunately Mauricio starts to ask questions and then all hell breaks loose. I don’t blame Kyle for pinching Mauricio as a sign to stop engaging with Brandi; I would have done the same to my husband if he engaged!!”

 I would have done more than pinch… lolol…

 “Then whom do we hear from again? You guessed it, none other than Taylor, who is so desperate to get some attention on herself that she starts sticking up for Brandi and yells that they are both are single women and need to stick together. Taylor goes on and on about how her deceased husband left her with a mountain of debt and problems..OMG.. how often do we have to hear about this!!! Who cares! So over Taylor! The thing that pisses me off is that Taylor is just fake, she is the Queen of inauthenticity.”

 Ahhh… Marisa… the single best way to suck up to viewers is to criticize Taylor.  Most of us really, really, really do not care for her at all (Was that kind enough? I tried to use my nice words… it was hard, we ARE talking about Taylor).  All hail Taylor, the “Queen of Inauthenticity.”  Watch out for that scepter!

 “Finally, after all the yelling has subsided, my husband Dean, as always, has to make a joke so he asks what we want for desert. I think that sums all of this up.”

 I LOVED your husband for that comment…that… and while sitting next to Brandi while she is excitedly telling Mauricio to STFU – he doesn’t even flinch a bit – it’s like he’s at Sunday Brunch.

 Taylor Armstrong

Brandi doesn’t want to talk much about this episode.  Perhaps it’s because she said quite enough during the episode.  Perhaps it’s because she recognizes she may need access to Maloof connections in the future… Perhaps she, too, doesn’t want to get sued.  I dunno.  She does say that she doesn’t think Brandi should have said what she said and that she doesn’t think Adrienne should have had an attorney send a letter to Brandi.

 “This seems like deja vu to me. When Russell threatened Camille with a lawsuit in an email last year, (with no attorney involved) Paul and Adrienne were leading the charge to have us kicked out of the white party and banned from the Hawaii trip. I didn’t agree with what Russell did, but the hypocrisy is disturbing. It’s all different when the shoe is in the other foot.”

 It’s ALWAYS different when the Maloof Hoof is on the other foot.

 ““Friends don’t sue friends” was the line that resonated most with me from last year and I agree.”

Yes, I agree.  But wasn’t it YOUR husband who threatened to sue last time? Hypocrisy abounds…

Yolanda H. Foster

“Thanks for all your well wishes; I am on day 40 of my IV antibiotic treatments with hopefully only 30 more to go. I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel and hoping to get back to my normal life sooner than later. I have a new respect and sympathy for any of you out there battling a chronic and/or debilitating disease.”

 Hope these treatments are doing what they’re supposed to do – and that you’re feeling well, soon!

 “I have been enjoying the blog process because I am fascinated with the different perspectives on our stories. Like I say every week, I am just giving my view, but, as my husband pointed out, a point of view by definition can often seem judgmental. But in my heart, I’m always trying to help, not hurt. I am also learning that since English is not my first language I sometimes don’t use the correct words and some things definitely get lost in translation.  It was so much easier to do my Dutch show where I got to think and speak in my own language. However, I will continue to try and do better.”

 Well, we can’t ask for more than that, can we?  However, we do reserve the right to continue to pick apart every word and to criticize you at every turn… it’s our job.  Well, maybe not… but it’s all done for entertainment purposes, no?

“Seeing Lisa and Brandi is emotional and very endearing. That’s what our relationships with girlfriends should be like, shouldn’t it?  Lisa has been a great support system for Brandi and she is lucky to have her as a friend. Hopefully viewers realize that even here in Beverly Hills, where our lives seem so perfect and glamorous from the outside (with the big houses, champagne and red carpets), in reality, we are all dealing with similar life problems. Trust me, at the end of the day, we all put our pants on one leg at a time.”

Actually, shows like this fully demonstrates to us – mere common folk – that many of your elite, Beverly Hills’ centric lives aren’t all that great.  Most of us would trade money for love every time.  Well, except that I would love to own your house, Yo.  I couldn’t trade my husband for it – but could I interest you in 2003 Honda?

 “I agree with the life coach: Kim looks amazing and I am pulling for her. There is some deep-rooted stuff going on that we on the outside world will never truly understand. I wish Kim and Kyle would choose to go to therapy together to try to heal these wounds and move on to a relationship their mom would have been proud of. It is time to look forward and forget about the past. With every sunrise there is a promise of a new and better day!”

 Yeah… perhaps therapy would help… but they both would have to want to go and be open to it.  They kind of need to get to the place where they recognize they are both responsible for their problems… and they are both responsible for the solutions.

“Dinner at the Moroccan restaurant was another public drama. Kim has a knack for bringing up ultra-sensitive issues at inappropriate times. I do think that the conversation is extremely important for them to have, but not so sure a Moroccan restaurant amongst belly dancers is the best venue.  I wish Kim would have just phoned me to say it is not a good time for her to do a cleanse, rather than act as if we never made a plan.  I did not have any expectations from her, other than her showing up! I was only trying to offer her friendship and support.”

 Well, many alcoholics seem to have problems with time and commitment issues.  Maybe she just wasn’t going to be interested in the “Master Cleanse” but would have preferred just hanging out with you? Or perhaps it was the trip coming out to you.  Perhaps you should make an effort to make a trip to her house once in a while? Why do people always have to come to you? I mean, I guess I would make every excuse just to be able to come out to see your home… but then again… it’s been a while since I’ve had to travel on that part of the freeway near your house.

 “Taylor. . .really?  Please stop drinking — it makes you aggressive and it’s so unattractive.  I am concerned that she has not taken enough time to properly mourn the death of her husband.  The alcohol only adds poison to her open wounds. Maybe being home with her beautiful little angel is a better and safer place to get through this tough and unthinkable time of her life.”

 I think Taylor must have been edited a lot from what actually transpired at the restaurant… since a couple of the blogs really go after her.  Other than being a little sappy and woman powery… nothing that she said was that over the top to me… but perhaps it’s because I’m jaded and have learned to have such low expectations of her.

 “We keep going back and forth on this whole lawyer situation, here is the deal; Adrienne is using her money to intimidate Brandi with a lawsuit because she does not have the chops or communication skills to work this out like normal people do.  As we have previously discussed, and Mauricio tries to point out, Brandi hit below the belt. She was wrong and an apology is in order to Adrienne — but if she doesn’t acknowledge Brandi’s phone calls, and surrounds herself with a barrier of lawyers, then this will never get resolved because Brandi does not have the money to defend herself.”

 I should have just copied and pasted this paragraph and used it instead of some of my previous comments with a, “Yo says it best…”

 “Ken makes an valid point; Brandi does not have the support of a man at her side, and she is fairly defenseless, other than cussing like a sailor when backed into a corner and provoked. But I can tell you one thing: she is honest, she speaks without a filter and she does not stab people in the back so for that I love and support her!!!”

 Brandi is NOT defenseless because she doesn’t have the support of a man.  Are you freaking kidding me?  That just chaps my hide.  Brandi has demonstrated command of the English language – and has some very colorful words at her disposal.  It’s the ganging up that’s not fair – when you have 4 people against one no matter the subject or the gender – THAT’S when it’s not fair.  Or when you have an army of lawyers ready to do your bidding as Adrienne has access to vs. Brandi’s public defender equivalent (no disrespect to public defenders meant). Yep, you’re right – it seems like Brandi’s pretty honest, though… And if Brandi stabs – it’s right to your face. Unless, of course, you’re Adrienne.


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Saturday Night Lineup, January 19th by BB

8PM – Real Housewives of Beverly Hills First Look (Bravo); 20/20 Saturday (ABC); Untold Stories of the E.R. (TLC); True Life: I Hate the Government (MTV); True Crime with Aphrodite Jones: Casey Anthony (Repeat, ID); Six Little McGhees (OWN);

9PM – Ripper Street (BBC); Untold Stories of the E.R. (TLC); Pit Boss (Anpl); Mudcats: Down and Dirty (NatGeo); UFC: Belfort vs Bisping (FX); An Idiot Abroad (Science); Deadly Sins (ID); Staten Island Law (OWN); Iron Chef America (Cook);

10PM – 48 Hours (CBS); Wedding Band (TBS); Pit Bulls and Parolees (Anpl); Stuff You Should Know (Science); Fatal Vows (ID); Wild Things (BBC)

Note:  For those looking for something new to watch, check out this “gritty new period drama” Ripper Street on BBC at 9PM.  Read here for more info:  http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/18/showbiz/ripper-street-bbca/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


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203 Responses to What Really Happened at the beginning of Season 3 of Dance Moms / Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Cast Blogs Blogged

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Happy Saturday.

    LavaLady I just commented your post this morn that I’m glad you’re progressing w/your rebuild.

    • LavaLady says:

      Thanks Powell. I saw your response. Your support and understanding is much appreciated. NJ is going through a difficult time, and it’s not only the shore area. Inland towns also had many losses and flooding from rivers and streams. A little town called Moonachie was completely devastated by a broken berm during the storm. It is a middle class blue collar town. Hardly anyone who lived there had flood insurance. They lost school, fire depts., stores, businesses. It is heartbreaking to see the pictures and read stores about their losses still almost 12 weeks out.

      As I wrote to NJBev below, NJ always gives to disaster relief. 9/ll, the Tsunami, the Japan earthquake. Now we need help. Hopefully the money that has been raised will be to those who need it and soon.

  2. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    While i find Ken and his swing surprise very cute I cant help but feeling it was all just to set the stage for the vow renewal. Makes me think it is more contrived romance than actual romance. I always thought Lisa was different from the rest-but what do you expect from a Real HW’s?

  3. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    “Kim has a knack for bringing up ultra-sensitive issues at inappropriate times.”…says Yolanda…all the while she is discussing the ultra-sensitive Brandi/Adrienne situation with Lisa.

    • NJBev says:

      Hi Jill! hope you’re having a good weekend!
      I wanted to tell you that I read a post from
      “ladybrooks” this morning “wash your mouth
      out with soap” she gave her perspective on the
      Brandi/Maurice issue and it I must admit, it helped
      me to see your (and Rabbles) view-
      hopefully you know the blog I’m talking about-
      read it if you get a chance. xo

  4. Powell says:

    I was watching BH & know we have talked this to death but I hadn’t seen the scene where Kim tells Adrienne & Paul what Brandi said. I’m reposting this. Adrienne said “She has too much time on her hands. She’s not taking care of her own kids”. It has to be about their kids.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      We saw Kim talking to Paul and Adrienne at Mauricio’s infommercial event but the reactions to the message didn’t match the convo. And who knows what swiss cheese brain really said to them. The daggers Adrienne was throwing about Brandi’s children not being cared for properly, her craziness and drug addiction had to come from someone….busybody Chef Bernie? Not once in that verbal beatdown did I hear anything about the state of Adrienne’s marriage or her own children.

  5. TexasTart says:

    Happy Birthday Mrs. Peabody! 😀

  6. BB says:

    Great job on the RHOBH blogs, Stars. Enjoyed your take on them.

    • California35 says:

      Yes, great job 🙂


      Great job on the recap blogs you write BB also 🙂

      • BB says:

        Thanks, Cali

        • Boobah says:

          I’m with Cali *waves to Cali* – thank you BB for all the recaps you have provided. For someone like me, who finds it hard sometimes to sit through some of the episodes, it’s nice to be able to come here and read about what I missed.

          • BB says:

            Boobah. I liked what you had to say on Empress’s blog about Lance Armstrong. The guy in this interview is the real role model to me. I think you will enjoy his perspective. It’s bigger than Lance Armstrong. It’s about ethics in all walks of life.

            • Boobah says:

              Oh, wow, BB – Thank You!! I re-read it and cringed at my ‘colorful’ language.

              Also a big thank you for the article link. I did enjoy his perspective – very much. And you know, he’s right. Armstrong deserves a shot at redemption although I do not think he should be allowed to compete any more.

              The overall message of the article was excellent. When you look at it his way, it is bigger than Armstrong/cycling. It does speak to the greater problem. People appear to be lacking in ethics more than ever.

              ” Mercier is hoping that Armstrong’s fall from grace can help clean up various areas of American life where cutting corners in order to win at all costs has become a regular behavior.” Amen to that!

              Well there you have it. If this does help to change some things, then I guess that’s the silver lining.

              Thanks for sharing this.

              • Powell says:

                From Mercier’s lips to God’s ears but unfortunately someone in the future of racing, in corporate America, in politics, etc will think they’re better than the last guy. They didn’t know how not to get caught. I won’t get caught. And we’ll be here again.

            • Powell says:

              BB. What’s ethics? Is that a word any longer in today’s society of Greed at all costs? That’s why the economy collapsed & why the Congress & the Senate can’t vote or sign a Bill if even their lives depended on it because there’s such a lack of ethics. Everyone of the corporate big wigs took ethics classes in college & probably aced them don’t even remember what they learned.

              • BB says:

                Maybe they should all take a refresher course.

                • PJ says:

                  That’s what my husband says, they need a class to teach them what ethics are.

                  • thedesigndiva2 says:

                    They all have seem to forgotten about personal responsibility..not only to themselves , but to their families and the paying public and sponsors… Other professionals have to take refresher courses on Principles and Practices…maybe cycling should institute it also.. what a shame that this mans EGO was so large that he hurt so many people along the way…and for what !!!! what is the END GAME…. I not even sure he has had any sleepless nights over this matter…. for him it’s about the BENJAMINS….

                • Powell says:

                  BB & PJ the bank I was laid off from, annually we took an ethics renewal test. It was a video, written words, a pass/fail test at the end. It was mandatory. Did the big wigs take it? They were supposed to but I don’t know. Understandibg ethics didn’t stop them from doing what they did because the need for greed was bigger than living by ethics.

            • PJ says:

              I don’t want to get into a big debate about this because Lance is clearly wrong, but I do want to say where were all these ethical people when this was going on? In my opinion they all did it they are all guilty. Lance Armstrong is one person and he could not have done this without help and cooperation. It’s like all the people after WWII who weren’t guilty for the holocaust, of course they were guilty. Sitting back and saying nothing is just as bad. There is such a thing as community responsibility and this whole cycling community is guilty, in my opinion. Even as to ruining peoples careers Lance Armstrong couldn’t have done that without cooperation, had the team stood up as a whole this wouldn’t have happened. The thing is they all had agendas for doing this Lance wasn’t alone in it. That being said I’m not making excuses for Lance Armstrong because there isn’t an excuse, but let’s really blame all the people who have done this not just one. Just my opinion, stepping down from soapbox now.

              • BB says:

                I agree he’s not the only guilty one, but it doesn’t make him any less culpable.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                I think he wins the majority of the blame because he is the “face” of it all. He acted like doping was so out of the question for him and he was so above it all and now we all know better. If he didn’t act so high and mighty his fall from grace would have been a shorter trip.Everyone involved has blame-but he is the one who swore up down left and right that he was not doping-I feel like he personally lied to me-ya know what I mean?

                • BB says:

                  I know what ya mean, jellybean.

                • PJ says:

                  It is said that no evil in the world could be done if good people didn’t stay quiet about what’s going on. He was the face of it and his team mates also had an agenda and then there are all the other teams that also do this. This whole sport needs to be cleaned up.

                  • BB says:

                    ITA. I’ve always thought cycling was one of the dirtiest sports as far as doping. I don’t know why, but it seems there’s always some type of dirty scandal going on in that sport. I know it goes on in others, but it just seems more prevalent in the cycling world.

              • Powell says:

                You are totally right. In his corruption, in all corruption, it can’t happen if there isn’t at least one person by your side going right along w/it, helping to create it, helping w/the cover-up. “Evil begets evil.” I’m sure I quoted that incorrectly.

              • Boobah says:

                I agree with you. Lance is far from along in this. Clearly the sport needs to be rehabilitated. But his attitude makes it so much worse. He put himself out there often.

                Also, Lance acknowledged he was the leader. I think Lance profitted more from this scandal. He had millions of dollars worth of endorcement deals. Additionally he threatened and ruined people very publicly. He was ruthless all the way through.

                I completely agree they are all responsible, without a doubt. But look what he did to people when they stepped forward? I have never heard of anyone else in this scandal, but Lance was always in the news and claiming there was a witch hunt going on.

                It’s not the crime, it’s the cover up. I think they are all very much to blame. He made himself the poster child when it was great, so he is the poster boy now when it’s bad.


  7. AZGirl says:

    Happy Birthday Mrs. Peabody!

  8. California35 says:

    Happy Birthday Mrs Peabody

  9. WindyCityWondering says:

    I love Marisa and Yolanda’s blog perspective because they have manners, class and give an outsider viewpoint. I love Lisa’s blog because she knows what this group is capable of and can articulate without rancor. I love the fact that Brandi has no filter because if she did we would have no real drama, only the whitewashed keeping secrets of past seasons. And I do love that Taylor is pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation. RHBH is my favorite franchise and I am so glad that Bravo is adding the real deal (Lisa, Yolanda and hopefully Marisa) and showing the bottom feeders for what they truly are.

  10. LA Debra says:

    I don’t like Kim. Drunk or sober, in a group, in her TH, interacting with her kids, interacting with her friends, fighting with her sister, playing the victim, stirring the pot, blaming others for outing her addiction. I don’t like her.

    • Powell says:

      Ok Debra! 😀

    • JumpTheShark says:

      IMO, for Kyle to encourage Kim, a recovering alcoholic, to go on a liquid diet seems beyond stupid, almost sabotage. After a certain age a “Master Cleanse” seems less like a girlfriend bonding experience, and more like prep for the dreaded colonoscopy.

      • Powell says:

        JTS I don’t think Kyle even understood that. But Kyle’s insistence AGAIN, “why”. That’s what starts things w/the ladies all the time. Kyle has to know “why”. “What’s the problem w/Adrienne Brandi”, “Why can’t you come to my dinner party Kim”, “Why isn’t Kelsey going Camille”. All those what and why questions from Kyle have started fights. They all need to start telling Kyle she may need to know why but they don’t have to tell her why. Kyle needs to stop thinking she’s “the mom” to anybody else but her kids.

        • PJ says:

          Kyle is a pot stirrer. But then she innocently stands back and says oh my where did that come from.

        • BB says:

          You are right. Kyle always has to “pursue” the matter to the nth degree. What’s the matter with just accepting a person’s explanation and leaving it at that?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      ITA! I get that some people give her a pass because she was a beloved child star. But I was shocked by her appearance Season 1 – looking like years of “partying” were not good to her.

    • Beckygrey says:

      I’m with you Debra.

  11. NJBev says:

    Good Afternoon everyone. 🙂
    If anyone sees Lavalady would
    you be so kind to tell her I left
    her a message on the previous
    post? Thank You!

    • LavaLady says:

      Hi again, NJBev, I saw your response. So good to hear from you. As far as decorating goes, we really have not purchased any furniture yet. We used a tile place is Shrewsbury that our contractor recommended, and the woman was very helpful. I will advise one thing. Always, always tell the salespeople, store manager that you are a victim of Sandy. We have been able to get at least 10% off most things we buy or intend to buy. Sometimes 15%. I have not done any appliance shopping yet. It is all overwhelming. I think buying everything at one place is the way to go. While we are not trying to exactly duplicate what we had before, we are trying to decorate in a similar style.

      I agree with you about NJ not getting funds quickly enough. 9/11, the Tsunami, earthquakes in Japan. We always give. Now we are needy, and no one is rushing to help. While I personally may not need assistance, many people do. If I needed asssistance I would be lost. Hopefully our flood insurance company will do the right thing and give us the proper amount of money. We have paid for the policy for at least 10 years.

      I can assure you I am not the young blonde girl with the sports car and the Lava sticker. Look for an older blonde woman driving a Jeep Liberty. That’ll be me.

      I am happy to hear you often think of me and how I’m doing, as I do the same with you.

      • NJBev says:

        Hey Lava.
        I’m glad you got my response.
        One of these days we will have to
        meet for coffee or something
        to commiserate. If not, please know
        that I understand everything
        you are going thru~
        my best to you and your
        family. xoxoxo Bev

  12. BB says:

    I don’t know if this was posted yesterday or not, but here’s George Takei’s version of Gone With the Wind Fabulous. I like it better than Kenya’s Lol.

    • LA Debra says:

      I watched WWHL on Sat morning and I enjoyed this bit so much. All day yesterday I said “oh myyyy” every chance I got. And smiled inside even more when I was the only one who got it!

  13. Boobah says:

    SuperStars!!!! Awesome recap, my friend!! You have such a awesome way of cutting through some of their nutty points with you humorous reason and logic. Your recaps are always such a fun read!

    You make a great point about Brandi’s situation – the whole gender thing that seems to be a theme is very dated. It’s not because she’s a single mom, it’s because there was several people interrogating her at once that made it an unfair playing field.


    • WindyCityWondering says:

      While I understand the gender thing too – Do you think Mauricio would have been as rude to Brandi had she had a significant other by her side?

      • melthehound says:

        Only if Kyle gave him his balls back.

      • Trashy T says:

        Nope… he wouldn’t have had the balls to do it. I know people get upset at the idea of Brandi being defenseless but in some groups and obviously in Mo’s eyes not having a man beside you makes you fair game. If she had an escort or if she had money he would have shut his pie hole or not opened it in the first place. Can you tell I have not one iota of respect for him..he and Vyle are quite a pair.

      • Trashy T says:

        NMD thanks for ‘splaining what’s going on with Dance Moms… I enjoy the show which I’m sure says something about my taste. I appreciate all the hardwork everyone puts into this blog. I’m so thankful that it continues to flourish.

      • Boobah says:

        Yes, especially if he didn’t respect her signficant other. He wasn’t exactly respectful to Kim last season when they all went on vacay and Kim and her guy where late to his dinner bday party(I apologize because I cannot remeber where they went on vacy). If anything this kinda suggests that he has no regard for people he deems weak. Kim had addiction issues and Brandi isn’t excessively wealthy. I think money motivates him, but he could have possibly gotten a earful from his wife that could have set this in motion. But I really think he was showing his loyalty to A&P because of possible future sales.

  14. Powell says:

    I’m watching BH. Brandi is telling Marisa & Kyle about A & P suing her. She said she has lawyers bills from her ex. Why didn’t she have Eddie pay her bills from the divorce? Or was this more suits?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Wondering if Eddie is using Leann lawyers and she is footing his bills in the lawsuits?

    • PJ says:

      I don’t think Eddie has all that much money without LeAnn’s money and LeAnn is not responsible to pay Brandi’s attorneys. You only get your attorney fees paid in divorce and child custody if one person is way richer than the other. The idea is to have an even playing field.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Thinking there might be lawsuits from Eddieleann because of Brandi not being allowed to have the boys on the show.

        • PJ says:

          Maybe not lawsuits exactly, but definitely lawyers involved. This is where I see this as unfair because it seems to me like LeAnne and Eddie use the boys as photo ops all over the place but Brandi can’t show them on camera. Then, in my opinion, LeAnne plays so innocent on camera with these interviewers who want to kiss her rear end.

  15. Powell says:

    Stars you said Dean didn’t flinch at Brandi telling Mauricio to STFU. Dean hears STFU daily from men and women at studio meetings & I’m sure much worse.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Dean was really following the convo and I wonder if he didn’t flinch because he would have said the same thing to Mauricio…

  16. Sus says:

    Simon Barney said this on his FB:

    “Oprah said something very profound to Armstrong tonight. “Fame makes a person who is a jerk become a bigger jerk. And those who are good humanitarians, become bigger humanitarians.”

  17. Cartwheels says:

    Isn’t that guy Ryan the one that Sonja Morgan was dating as well?

    What is it with these women from RHBH that they swap guys like is nobody’s business, first it was Max the model: Sonja, Kelly and Luann felt for his charms, the Harry (Aviva’s ex), then Thoma, the pirate, and now this guy Ryan is also going around.

    Is NYC really that short on guys that they have to share?

  18. Kansas Girl says:

    Ooooooo! Replying on the new iPod. Finally figured out how to use the web.

    • BB says:

      I’m impressed. This coming from a very technically challenged individual.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        I just got a router. It actually works, following the instructions on the CD that guide you through the set-up. I’m so impressed! (Actually, this means I’m impressed with my own ability to follow simple instructions and click buttons. LOL! I’m a bit technology challenged too.) Next, set up new computer. You’ll probably get another stupid message from me here, as this HAS to be my home page.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Well, that was fun! LOL!

  19. Powell says:

    I know you all have talked about Mauricio scolding Brandi but to see it I’m like “WTF is wrong w/Mauricio & why didn’t Kyle grab her husband & tell him to STFU? That was more embarrassing that he kept hammering “why don’t you call her”. Was he drunk? Cause I heard Brandi say she called Adrienne multiple times. I see the next epi Mauricio tries to apologize to Ken & Ken doesn’t buy it.

    • PJ says:

      Looks to me like Ken has really had it with Mo so I’m thinking something more is going on here than just the stuff with Brandi. Ken and Lisa seem like really loyal friends to me but if you’ve crossed them too many times it’s really over. I think the bloom is off the rose as far and Kyle and Mo are concerned.

      • Powell says:

        PJ the bloom is off the rose for L & K w/a lot of them their group. They lived across from A & P for many yrs and L finally saw the real A at the reunion, now she’s seen the real Kyle. I think what many of you are saying is probably true that Mauricio is just following the mullah. Camille- he was made at Kyle potential loss of RE deals, Lisa- becam real buddy w/Ken. He sold their house, found them another one, Paul-became real buddy w/Paul. A&P have a boat load of dough. Always staying on their good side.

    • Beckygrey says:

      Actually she finally does. What I find funny, not one time did she say anything while he was talking, but when Lisa was talking she wanted to interrupt. Kyle can’t even try to play off her distain for Lisa.
      Remember last season when she told Lisa, Brandi was so mean to she and Kim. Lisa believed her and stuck up for her long time friend until she found out differently. Kyle hates that Lisa likes Brandi and anytime she can bring up the comparison she does. Kyle is so juvenile with that…You like Brandi better than me. lol. Sad and funny all at the same time.

  20. BB says:

    Wow, check out the abs on those Dance Mom girls.

  21. WindyCityWondering says:

    I have suspected that Adrienne is still mad at Brandi for outing the take down Lisa meeting prior to the last reunion and she has been harrassing Brandi while they were not filming. Brandi said that her issue with Adrienne was about “her children and her life”. We have heard that Adrienne tried to get Brandi off the show. As far as an apology – Adrienne doesn’t give good ones and I don’t see her sincerely accepting one from Brandi nor do I see her giving one to Brandi for whatever she has said and done to her. Color me officially bored with this storyline.

    • BB says:

      Me too. However, it seems this storyline will be a continuing theme on RHOBH, probably for the rest of the season & into the reunion. Sigh.

    • Powell says:

      I know WCW. It is taking up too much space in our brains. We just want to know the truth about it all. What is all of what A & P said to Brandi to intimidate her? What truth did Brandi tell about A & P? Also what is the reason for A & Ps divorce?

      • howdy all from a rainy chitty fla..
        A & P got divorced because P had and affair with the 19 yr old that works/worked in his office..although they allegedly have an ” open ” marriage,,he must have really taken a smitten to this gal..also..allegedly A is a mean drunk… while in vegas she drank shots of vodka and went all A – SHIT on P…. verbally and physically

        Not much happening here..still looking for work..BUT.. I am being paid to take part in a mock jury trial for a lawyer… hmmm I just might get a job out of this if I play my cards right…. I told the lady who was doing the recruiting that I was an EXPERIENCED RESEARCHER and kind find dirt where none exists…. she loved it… I was a GOOD LAWYER in my other life I think..cause I love the law and all those Court Cases… I did want to go to school for it but…. well life happened..ended up doing Architectural work instead but never gave up studying law and such… soooooo maybe this is my door/window…. fingers are crossed for sure…..
        Mr ford is feeling better..well at least his knee is….
        PITA freezing in NC…hahahahahahaha that will teach him … he’s doing well and that’s all we care about….

        I read everyday…just not much to add to the convo…. for now…winks

        hugs and peace


        • Right on Diva!!! That sounds super cool. I can totally relate on loving the law and all that. In school I used to read law books for fun and I watch all kinds of real life court room drama and forensic programs and real crime stories. If I had the time needed and resources I would have went to law school too. But just like you real life happened and to get something quick I chose accounting but I was a happy camper when I found out that for my degree I had to take a course in Business Law. It was by far my favorite class. I really hope this opportunity works for you.

          PS My old coworker used to call me 008 cause I was always investigating stuff at work even when not necessary and even was able to prove that another coworker was stealing money and trying to destroy the paperwork and evidence. He didn’t count on me taking the time to research what kind of trail the computers leave and good old fashion detective work to find him out. Lol. That is what I’d rather be doing.

        • Powell says:

          Hey Miss Diva. I didn’t hear about the affair. If it’s true that wasn’t cool of Paul even if he’s living w/a dragon lady. Get out of it. Don’t cheat.

          I’m glad your having a good time on the mock jury. Hopefully this will lead to something really exciting for you.

          Your poor son is freezing his patootie in NC. I suppose he’ll get used to it. But he’s happy & that’s what counts.

          Mr Ford is doing his thing. He’s going to be alright. I don’t think he has a choice w/you by his side. 🙂

    • L.A. Chica says:

      About whatever Adrienne did to Brandi being about her children and her life, if she was trying to get her kicked off the show that would qualify, wouldn’t it? Brandi needs to earn a living to support her children, I doubt she’s getting much from Eddie and his sugar mamma. Maybe Adrienne tried to go all Lance Armstrong on her?

  22. princesspindy says:

    Happy BIrthday Mrs. Peabody!!
    Starzy, great job! Made me chuckle….
    I think Morrie would have been well served if he had just said,
    “Ya know, I was stirring the pot and came off looking like a dick and I’m sorry.”

    Cuz that is really what he was doing, stirring the pot. I have been know to say something, or ask a question, just throw it out there and then sit back and see what happens. He kept doing it over and over.
    I can remember my mom always telling my dad “Don’t stir the pot” when we kids would be at each other and to “not make waves”….. I think they call it “Sh*t Stirring” nowadays, lol!

    • BB says:

      Princess, I’m beginning to thing they all have a clause in their contract that says “You must start some shit with another cast member at least once this season. If you do not, then your screen time will be significantly reduced or eliminated in the editing room. Welcome to the Bravo family.”

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        No doubt the women have to bring the drama or else….but the men, not so much. Both Paul and Mauricio have shown very ugly sides this season. Could it be because of Adrienne’s accusation of story selling? Kyle was on her side so now she has to show loyalty to Adrienne?

      • iceNfire says:

        Hi BB – ita with your thinking. My sister will ask me the ” whys and whats” when she damn well knows the answers ( as Kyle often does) and is just trying to embarass me in front of others. All it akes from me is a certain look that tells her to STFU or I will bring up matters that she would rather not discuss. Luckily we are RHoNowhere since our “secret looks” would bring no drama.

  23. BB says:

    We’re down at the Outer Banks this weekend. My husband just came home from the store said he saw some surfers. It’s a high of 51 degrees today and the water temp is 47-50. Doesn’t matter to them. If there are some good waves happening, they are there. My son in law biked 33 miles this morning. I wish I had that gumption!

    • Powell says:

      I can see your SIL biking cause I see it yr round where I live but surfing? That’s crazy.

      • BB says:

        It’s their passion. There are plenty of 50-60 some year olds around here who still go out when the surf’s up and they’ve been doing it since they were teens.

        • LavaLady says:

          BB, my son surfs year round here in Jersey. They make winter wet suits with hoods and booties and gloves. He went a few days ago. Jersey really has the best surfing weather in the winter.

          • BB says:

            Better him than me, lol!. I just went out for a short while yesterday here and thought I was gonna freeze. The wind cuts through you like a knife. Today is a little warmer and less windy.

          • Powell says:

            I need that suit, hood and gloves for everyday wear.

  24. BB says:

    Conducting a survey for all you grandmothers out there. What do your grandkids call you?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      While I am not a grandmother, my sons text, skype and e mail more so than use the phone. How old are your grandchildren?

      • BB says:

        I’m not yet. I will be this April. Trying to figure out what I would like for my grandson to call me. I like Nana, but my mom is Nana so I might go with something different. I called one of my grandmothers Granny and one of them Grandma. When my kids came along they called my Grandma “Great-gran”

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Smacking my head did I read that wrong or what! If you have something in mind that you would like to be called bounce it off the expectant parents now. My kids call their grandmothers “Grandma________first name. I have friend who use the language equivilant for grandmother in their ethnic background. If I have grandkids, I want them to call me “She who spoils us rotten”.

          • BB says:

            I think “She who spoils us rotten” is a good one, but may be hard for a toddler to handle. Lol.

          • BB says:

            My daugher and SIL don’t care. My SIL’s parents are going to be Oma and Opa (German).

            • LavaLady says:

              My husband, father in law and mother in law are 100% German, but we couldn’t get the Oma Opa names to stick. It was my fault really. I am a mutt and was used to the more traditional Grandma and Grandpa. I remember my mother telling me when I was having my first that the children will wind up calling their grandparents whatever their mom wants them too, since they will talk to her the most and copy her example. I guess that’s why the Oma and Opa didn’t work for us, as I never felt comfortable using those names, so my kids didn’t either. We wound up with Grandma and Pop Pop which have served us well for 23 years.

    • PJ says:

      I have no baby grands but I have friends that do, they call their grandmother’s Mima and then their first name. They call their grandfather’s Papa and then their first mane.

    • Powell says:

      One of my aunts grandkids couldn’t pronounce grandma so they did & still call her g-mommy.

    • princesspindy says:

      If I have grandchildren they will call me “Your Royal Highness” lol!! My mom tried to get my brother and 1st wife to call her something other than Grandma and they ridiculed her so much that she just went with Grandma……

      • princesspindy says:

        oh, but after babysitting 3 boys for 12 hours yesterday she texted me this message:
        You will never get grandchildren from me, EVER!

        • BB says:

          Tell her other people’s kids always get on your nerves more than your own – most of the time.

          • princesspindy says:

            I love that she is babysitting these 3, lol, she keeps telling me what a good job I did of raising her and her brother! The 3 boys fight over every little thing and she says that she is teaching them manners, haha! It’s sad because the youngest is 7 and the oldest is 12 and SHE has to teach them manners?? She handed the one a cookie and he didn’t say anything so she said, “You’re welcome” and he says, “You’re welcome” and she says, “No, you say, ‘thank you’, I say ‘you’re welcome’ ” , I was rotflmao!!

            Also, when they are your own, they lull you into this love affair that makes you not want to kill them, most of the time!

        • Powell says:

          Haha. i love your little princess.

    • dickens says:

      My grandsons call me Mimi.

    • AZGirl says:

      Okie Dokey…..I am not a grandmother. Nor do I plan on being one soon. First Born and Second Born have been given the necessities needed to make sure this does not happen.
      My mom, God love her, insisted on being called “Pat”. No Grandma, no nana…nothing but Pat. She and Dad passed away 10 years ago this month. One classy lady and her lover my dad.

    • Felicia says:

      Our kids use Mommom or Mammal and Pop Pop. They like it and it is easy for them to say.

      • zanne says:

        Boy do we run the line here. We have Grandma and name. We have plain grandma,and papa because the other side was Grand Mary and papa name. Then we have several – especially step grand children that use just the first name. But the best is Bah along with Bah Can.

    • BB says:

      Thanks everyone.

      • Orson says:

        My maternal grandparents were Grandma and Grandpa. My paternal grandparents were Bubbe and Zayde (Yiddish). My brother’s children had Grandma [first name] x 2 and Grandpa. There’s going to be some confusion with my great nieces, as I’m their great uncle orson, but they have another uncle orson too.

      • LA Debra says:

        We called one set grandmother and granddaddy and the other set mamaw and papaw. I think the mamaw and papaw thing might be Southern.

    • Beckygrey says:

      One calls me Grandma the other ….almost had me there’ll

  25. BB says:

    Well, gotta go make dinner. Red beans and rice burritos. Quick and easy.

  26. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thank you NMD for clearing up the first three episodes of Dance Moms for me! So that scene with Abby demanding signed contracts for a year could be seen as her way of making sure she got a bigger piece of the pie because of the show contracts the moms signed? This will be a mean season.

    • iceNfire says:

      I was under the impression that the contracts were for 9 months and not a full year. This explains how ALM had time Abby’s Ultimate Comp. show and how Chloe had time to attend the Joffrey scholarship that she won. I’m really disappointed that that has never been mentioned since it was a Very Big Deal at the time. idk but a full year seems unresonable to me.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Would a full year contract mean that the girls can’t dance for anyone else or take advantage of a scholarship? Or just that the moms have to pay Abby for the extra three months?

        • iceNfire says:

          As it turned out Chloe Did Not get to take advantage of that Joffery scholarship due to filming of Dance Moms. Guess ALM doesn’t have the kids best interest at heart and Christie wasn’t really expecting to be released from that dmned contract.

          CGM: When we left off in the spring, Chloe was offered the coveted Joffrey Ballet School scholarship. Did she find the time to do it — and will we see any of that on the show?

          CL: It certainly is a wonderful opportunity, but to be very honest, I don’t know if Chloe is going to be able to take advantage of it. We are still filming until the end of July, so I’m not really sure what is going to be available as far as the schedule goes.
          I’ve been asking production and haven’t really gotten a straight answer, but that is definitely an opportunity that I don’t want to see pass by, because it’s such a prestigious name and a great opportunity — and an honor! But I also know that we have obligations to film and, you know, be crazy on TV [laughs].
          dated 6/1/12 http://www.channelguidemagblog.com/index.php/2012/06/01/christi-lukasiak-dance-moms-season-3/

          • PJ says:

            But if it was because of scheduling with the filming of the show is that Abbey’s fault? Is Abbey the producer of the show?

            • iceNfire says:

              Once again, idk – but seems cruel to have the kids audition for scholarship knowing if any one of them actually got it they would not be allowed to accept….i’m hating this show more and more

              • PJ says:

                But the parents make the final decisions so why is Abbey the one responsible? This line of thinking isn’t reasonable to me.

      • Chloe didn’t go because of filming. My guess is the contract is for the competitive season. That’s how they did it in gymnastics. Then they know how to split the costs for the coach travel and costs (which the parents pay for). Different clubs had different ways of handling the collective costs – but the contract meant that no one could leave mid-season and not pay their share.

  27. iceNfire says:

    I have no idea but being trapped to ALM for a solid year seems cruel and completly unbearable to me….I’ll stop being lazy and go look around for some answers.

    • iceNfire says:

      Lhttp://womeninbusiness.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=womeninbusiness&cdn=money&tm=38&f=00&su=p284.13.342.ip_p554.23.342.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.abbyleedancecompany.com/ooks like a 10 month contract

  28. VV says:

    Recent article on Bond, Annabelle Bond.


    I’m only putting it out there for facts. I still don’t know who’s spinning the media with the whole Warren Lich story. Just putting some facts here about the mother of his little girl.


  30. BB says:

    Where does The Bachelor get his roses to hand out?

  31. BB says:

    Is anyone going to watch Ripper Street tonight at 9? I’m DVR’ing it.

  32. WindyCityWondering says:

    Just caught the sneak peak for next weeks RHBH! This is going to be a battle royale.

    • BB says:

      Can’t wait!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        No I am thinking that scene with Paul and Adrienne talking about that out of nowhere skin cleanser line was filmed after the fact and the excuse of them being in New York was to cover the fact that Adrienne walked off the show. Doesn’t she miss the trip to Paris too?

        • VV says:

          Windy, I thought the same thing too. One must look a pics and compare hair cuts and weight. P&A behavior was odd on that scene and I even think I heard A say something in the lines of let’s get started or let’s get it over or something that implied lets film the scene and get it over with.

    • iceNfire says:

      Good! I need to spread my hate around,spending too much hate on one person/show is Not good for my health 😛

    • VV says:

      I missed it 😦

  33. BB says:

    Heather Dubrow on Malibu Country. She really had to stretch her acting chops for this.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Guessing she had an excellent agent.

    • BB says:

      When I look at Heather Dubrow, I see all hard lines and angles. No softness about her. She just strikes me as cold and stark. I’m not sure how to describe it.

      • VV says:

        Cold and Stark is perfect!

      • Beckygrey says:

        Don’t like her. I don’t like how they allowed new person take over their group. The only reason was because of her money.

      • chismosa says:

        i’m sorry i don’t even watch O.C. but this woman when i saw her on WWH is totally completely utterly Danielle Staub’s twin! They really really look alike. If i were Heather, i’d be working my eyebrows or my fillers to make me look different than Danielle. Why you want to be associated with that person?! Ain’t nobody got time for that!

  34. BB says:

    I was just watching the news and they were showing the President and First Lady at an elementary school observing National Day of Service. The President was speaking and the FL was standing beside him. I noticed she slouched and wanted to tell her to stand up straight. I never noticed her doing that before. I wonder if it was because she was standing right beside him and wanted to look shorter or what. Just a random observation. And now I’m off to bed. Good night.

    • TexasTart says:

      I noticed that and have noticed similar posture and at times, when she is not the center of attention there seems to be a disconnect – where her body language says she can’t stand to be there but the complete opposite will be evident if she is given a podium or mic.

    • chismosa says:

      maybe she’s doing what the ‘tall girls’ have to do when they’re with men that they will eclipse if they stand straight. Wendy Williams calls it something like the hip -slant or something, so if you cock your hip, you are not standing straight. She was talking specifically about Khloe Kartrashian on X-Factor with Mario Lopez. Which TO THIS DAY, i don’t understand how she came out in heels every night and yet Lopez did not look 5 inches minimum, shorter than her. (If without heels she is way taller than him anyway, then she adds about 4 inch- shoes) I think he and Ryan Seacrest, among many men in hollywood – have to have lifts in their shoes. I remember hearing that Matt Lauer hates for Savannah his co-anchor to wear heels when she’s next to him. Ha ha!

      I think many tall women feel this and have to slouch to make up for it with that awful posture. Maybe Michelle Obama does it sometimes without realizing she is doing it.
      That’s why you gotta love women who are so tall like Wendy Williams or Nene who are so tall to begin with they are like “F- you all, i’m not going to hide this”– and wear 5 inch heels ON TOP OF IT. ha ha.

  35. Pghemtchick says:

    Cardinal Nation and Southwest Pa lost an amazing man and baseball legend tonight. #RIP Stan “The Man” Musial. Before he was the man, he was “The Donora Greyhound” while playing baseball in his youth with Ken Griffey Sr’s father. While not a cardinals fan, Stan paved the way for the baseball program here. Due to him Donora (Ringgold now) has produced alongside him in the legend categories: Ken Griffey Sr, Ken Griffey Jr, and Joe Montana. There are more but those are our greats. I know my dad’s greeting him at the pearly gates. Here’s to hoping everytime our kids goto school and see his pictures/memorbilia they remember men like him paved the way for them to play today.

  36. chismosa says:

    Hi everyone hope you’re all having a great weekend.
    Looks like we’re going to have some good shows tomorrow and Monday night!

    • VV says:


      • chismosa says:

        Hey VV— though you may not see me comment right after you, i am TOTALLY appreciating you keeping us up to date on the many funny and interesting goings-on with regards to Bethenny. I may be alone in this, but i love it! So thanks.

  37. VV says:

    Love her or hate her Lisa Vanderpump is one smart Lady.
    Somebody tweeted this not so nice tweet:
    “@LisaVanderpump ur not an american, therefore u aren’t from Bev Hills…..Therefore u shudn’t be on RHOBH”
    Lisa retweeted it.
    Later on she tweeted:
    “@FebruaryRain1 I think u might feel some twitter love coming your way.”
    A little later she tweeted again.
    “@FebruaryRain1 Feeling the love yet ?”

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