Jason Hoppy Releases His Divorce Demands and other Housewife Gossip / Top Chef Seattle Recap

Jason Hoppy Releases his Divorce demands and Other Gossip by NoMoreDrama

Jason Hoppy Releases His Divorce Demands.  Bethenny Frankel and Jason Hoppy have both put their divorce demands on the table, according to TMZ.

Primary custody of Bryn – check

Child support (goes with custody I suppose) – check

Medical and dental covered (by the other one) – check

Beneficiary to life insurance (in addition to having Bryn as beneficiary) – check

Exclusive use and occupancy of the marital residence – check

In short, Jason is asking for everything Bethenny asked for – in addition to having his legal costs covered.

I don’t blame him.  I think it sucks that she asked for primary custody and that set the stage for this battle.  What do you think?


LeAnn Strikes Back.  Leann Rimes was featured in an article about her appearance on Jimmy Kimmel live on Tuesday, one day after Brandi Glanville was on Watch What Happens Live and called Leann insane.  Leann fired back.  In talking about Brandi’s show (RHOBH) Leann – who claims not to watch the show said – : “I do know what’s going on [the show] because I have to deal with my publicist every Monday.”  Huh?  Has she been mentioned on the show recently???

And then about Brandi’s latest hit “But then, you know, you just kinda get fed up with people lying about you and you’re like…words, here.”  Well said Leann – you’re like, like, help me find some words please.

Actually, I’m getting pretty tired of both of them but since Brandi has a book to sell I get what she’s doing.  Leann, I’m like I like have no like words.  LeAnn’s new look did cracked me up though.

Leann Rimes on Jimmy Kimmel

Leann Rimes on Jimmy Kimmel 

o-BRANDI-GLANVILLE-ADRIENNE-MALOOF-570And then there’s  Brandi’s on-screen feud with Adrienne Maloof, that put her on the cover of the magazine this week.  The text on the cover says: “Brandi Tried To Destroy My Family.”  “The truth behind the explosive fight that TV couldn’t show! And why Brandi used Adrienne’s surrogacy secret against her.”   (According to this article in the DailyMail – neither lady was interviewed for the article – all the content was from an unnamed source).

Nevertheless, Brandi responded by talking to the Huffington Post, saying:  “I’ve never tried to ruin anyone’s family. I was simply protecting my own.”  “I think Adrienne did a nice job of ruining her own family when she accused her husband of child abuse. She did this, not me.”  Ouch.  But true.  I’m still scratching my head about why Adrienne was so worried about keeping this secret.  I’m still convinced the secret also had to do with their marriage being on the rocks – which isn’t much of a secret now that Paul and Adrienne are divorced and she’s got a new boy toy.

Speaking of that –  Adrienne Maloof seems to be trying to draw attention away from the “secret” by giving people something else to gossip about.  She’s gone public with her relationship with Rod Stewart’s son (although she denies that he has moved into her home).  Paul Nassif has even chimed in on the relationship – wishing her well.  My guess is he’s just happy she’s leaving him alone.


Bulldog Roundup

Our day wouldn’t be complete without checking in with our latest NJ housewife entertainment, Melissa Gorga’s ex-boyfriend Bulldog and his amusing tweets.

First Melissa tweeted this: “I know you’re gonna try & bring me, bring meee down, But I’m a fighter I’m a tiger I can figure it out💋” (Is that from her song?)

Bulldog tweeted (around that time): ““GAME ON!!”  then  “BIG MISTAKE!!!”

(It sure looks like he’s looking for something to react to – unless there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than the twitter line shows).

Then later were a string of tweets – I’m just bringing over some since I’m not sure what he’s talking about most of the time.

“I didn’t make your bed and now your gonna have to lie in it.. Lol “lie” in it haha 😜”

You can bring a 1000 knifes but it won’t help you in a gun fight!! Chose your battles wisely.

“You beat them with heart not muscle”

“You attacked my character I stayed quiet then my brain surgery. That was where the line was crossed now u challenge me!? Game on! Ya hamster”

“they can have all the time they want to scramble the lies. Like I said I am 10 steps ahead! I’m just giving them more rope ;)”

“Calm before the storm.. BOOM ⚡🔥”

“I am so much smarter then they think lol I love it!!!” 👼👺 (I’m not sure about that).

Then this morning:

“I bet I know someone who’s just as scared as this poor kid lol” With a photo of a kid with a scared face)

“Gdmorn everyone! Jeez I don’t know what’s worse watching her last Video on twitter or reruns of Jerry springer idk both fake lol”

“You should come up with different moves its been the same song & dance as long as I know you..”

“I just heard that song “don’t start no shit won’t be no shit” to bad they didn’t hear it first..”

“I am going to becoming out with a song too.. Stay tuned.. 😉 it’s gonna be titled ” baby it gets cold outside..” (be coming?)

“Ok I had enough fun for this morning gotta run. Training today.. I hope it’s not to cold for yas ;)”  (Game on – fun – I sense a trend)

“K let’s remember what’s important in live 1st. everyone enjoy your day & we’ll play again later 😉 god bless”

@freakinjealousy that pic u have of her and the dog “gucci” saddens me. she gave him up when she moved in with joe.She loved him but$more”  (I couldn’t find any picture).

That’s all for this morning – – –


Top Chef Seattle Recap by SugarMagnolia

We begin this episode in the condo. Josie is feeling guilty for Kristen’s loss. It’s about time she has some remorse. Sheldon is feeling confident/worried about his win.


Quickfire judging (from bravotv.com)

Quickfire judging (from bravotv.com)

Guest judge is Los Angelas sushi expert Katsuya Uechi. The challenge today is to create a sushi dish. I love sushi! I have had 3 babies and when I was pregnant, I did not miss alcohol, coffee, or any other forbidden foods. I missed sushi! (The mercury content is not safe for baby, for those who are not up on the baby growing rules). It was the first meal I ate as soon as baby 1,2, and 3 popped out. Well, they didn’t just pop out, but that’s a whole other blog. I even argued with my OB over it. I asked if i could eat Unagi and he said NO! “But it’s seared, pretty pretty please?” Nope, still too much mercury. But, I digress, back to our Quickfire. No immunity but the winner gets $5k

  • Stefan–yellowtail with grilled shitake and raw lobster with seaweed and unagi
  • Josie–halibut with yuzu and bacon aioli
  • Lizzie–lobster, micro greens and pickled ginger with Yuzu-Sake broth
  • Brooke–octopus with yuzu and grated wasabi
  • Stash–tempura bacon, omelette, salmon bellly and yuzu kosho aioli
  • Sheldon–hamachi sashimi with fresh ponzu, mitsuba and lemon charcoal

On the bottom–Lizzie, tempura was chewy. Stash–his breakfast for sushi concept was not well received. His bacon was greasy. (Mr. Pork lover cannot actually cook pork.  It is his fatal flaw).

Top–Brooke and Stefan. Who is the winner? Stefan! Finally! After 27 challenges he won!

Elimination Challenge

(from bravotv.com)

(from bravotv.com)

David Chang is the guest judge. Tom is there as well. Fried chicken is the challenge. There will be a whole lot of chefs judging them, most of whom are pretty much experts at getting a good scald on a chicken. Tom says, this is easy–make it crispy and delicious. The winner will receive a years supply of Turlatto wines. Stefan says that 365 bottles will last him a few months. Stefan–pick up an iced tea occasionally!

Chefs cooking. Stefan is such a perv, debating on whether he likes breasts or thighs more–depends on the size of the chicken. Gross-shocking that he is still single. Stash wants to replicate his Grandfather’s chicken. He is brining it from the inside with a flavor injector. Hmn….this should be interesting. Josie, sorry but I just have to channel the teacher from Charlie Brown–mwah mwah mwah. Mwah mwah mwah. I have no interest in listening to this woman speak any longer. She should’ve gone home last week. I will say that she didn’t use chorizo for the second time out of this season. Brooke is feeling challenged because she knows that something so simple can be the hardest to execute. She gets this game, which is probably why she’s won so many challenges.

Toyoto Highlanders–thanks Bravo! No show without commercial-in-episode.

(from bravotv.com)

(from bravotv.com)

While the chefs are busy cooking, the judges are having wine, They discuss their favorite parts and Tom gets a good laugh when he suggests that Wolfgang should open a new restaurant called “Wolfgang Clucks”. Chef’s are sweating while judges are laughing. Of course Josie can’t get her fryer working–mwah mwah mwah.

Judges–David Chang, Vinny Botolo, Jon Shook, Michelle Bernstein, Emeril, Wolfgang Puck, and of course, our head judge Tom Coliicchio. Josie is sweating it because Michelle sent her ass home on her last season. Puh-leeze Michelle, help the viewers out and send her packing again.

Sheldon-Umamai drusticks and thighs with usukuchi and grapeseed oil

Lizzie–chicken with coriander, black pepper and brown sugar rub with peach and cabbage slaw

Josie–chicken with black garlic, cayenne, thyme, and hot sauce with daikon salad (go home please)

There must have been a long production break here because the judges are jovial and seem to have lots of wine. Michelle won’t even eat Josie’s. Sheldon comes out on top.

Stefan–chicken cordon bleu with garlic aioli and lemon

Stash–smoked fried chicken with hot sauce and bleu cheese

Brooke–Dukkah crusted chicken breast with wilted escarole and tomato salad –Brooke actually interviewed two of the judges and she didn’t hire them. She’s having a bad day….and they didn’t like her chicken.

I’m telling you, the judges are tipsy, they are just laughing too much, and there seems to be more wine glasses clinking than forks hitting plates. The cheftestants have to wait until tomorrow for Judges Table.

Judges Table

Stash, Sheldon, and Lizzie are up first. Whew, they are the favorites! They each get kudo’s for originality and execution. Stash is the winner! Apparently he can’t cook pork, but he can cook chicken. And he will have 365 bottles of wine to drink while he does so.

(from bravotv.com)

(from bravotv.com)

Brooke, Stefan, and Josie are called up next. Brooke shouldn’t have de-boned hers. Josie had a pool of grease on her banana leaf. Of course Josie defends her dish saying everyone else said it was so good. Tom said, well, all of us sitting here did not like it so STFU. Stefan–why cordon bleu? Cause I’m from Europe and we don’t have KFC. Tom calls it banquet food. Ouch!

PYKAG Josie. Thank you thank you thank you Judges! Now she’s off to get her revenge from Kristen. My money is on Kristen.

Also, a new voting opportunity–there is one last chance to save our favorite chefs! I vote CJ! text “CJ’ to 27286.

See you next week foodies!



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Thursday Night Lineup, January 24th by BB

8PM – American Idol (Fox); Project Runway (Lifetime); 30 Rock/Parks and Rec (NBC); Last Resort (ABC); This Old House Hour (PBS); E! News (E!)

9PM – Glee (Fox); Project Runway (Lifetime); The Office/1600 Penn (NBC); Grey’s Anatomy (ABC); Anger Management (9:30 FX); The First 48: Missing Persons (A&E); North Woods Law (Anpl); The Millionaire Matchmaker (Bravo); Mysteries at the Museum (Trvl); The Will: Family Secrets Revealed; Gary Coleman (ID); Mary Mary (WE); House of Bryan (9:30 DIY)

10PM – Double Divas (10:30 Lifetime); Rock Center with Brian Williams (NBC); Archer/Legit (FX); Suits (USA); Buckwild (MTV); Beyond Scared Straight (A&E); What Not To Wear (TLC); Property Wars (Disc); King of the Nerds (TBS); Lost and Found (OWN); Kathy (Bravo); Sweet Genius (Food); Frenemies (ID); Rehab Addict (DIY);

11PM – WWHL: Kimora Lee Simmons & Liam McIntyre (Bravo)

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325 Responses to Jason Hoppy Releases His Divorce Demands and other Housewife Gossip / Top Chef Seattle Recap

  1. Cathy Connor says:

    Morning everyone !!! woo hoo first ??

  2. Vegas Chick says:

    Yikes! Sounds like someone forgot to give Bulldog his meds. #wackadoodledoo

    • lizzle says:

      I do not like Melissa, but I had to laugh at your comment. #wackadoodledoo #luvit

    • Rebecca says:

      I looked through his Twitter and Melissa’s camp has been so incredibly nasty to him. I give him a complete pass because he was dragged into this mess and the vile Marco camp will not leave him alone. He said he and his friends are getting calls and threats from them. Who does this?

      For example – the tranny whore QueenzofMedia (holy sh!t this person is evil) is getting a tweet of love from Lysa then immediately tweeting bulldog hatred and nastiness. There’s no coincidence. The Marco camp are internet terrorists. This is way beyond control.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        I am sure the twitter warriors are out on both sides in full force, But for me personally, I the whole thing is starting to bore me. I tweeted him and told him to either spill it or yip it and essentially he is just looking like an attention whore who either wants to be bought off for his silence or to sell his story.

        • Rebecca says:

          I don’t think he wants to. There he is, minding his own business, living what appears to be a happy life – and BAM!!!!!!!!! Marco drama! He keeps telling them to shut up, and they won’t. He says he will expose the truth if they don’t shut up and yet they still won’t back off. Looks like little Joey puffed out his chest at him, the vile sisters’ husbands are inserting themselves in this. It’s like – how stupid are these people? Just shut up and leave the guy alone! Don’t poke the bear!

          I now hope he DOES reveal Melissa’s dirty little secrets. It will serve her and her terrorist family right. I wish I had never heard of any of them. They’re all so negative and dishonest and combative. Can’t we put them on a boat to 1800s Australia?

  3. designernailsdiana says:

    Go Cathy you get a date with George now. If Powell will give him up for a night

  4. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It’s 19 degrees. Brrrrrrrr. A little snow but the sun should melt it all away. Have a great day.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I’ve got ya beat! It was 12 here when I WALKED to work. Up hill. (Such poor timing to leave the car at the shop last night so it would be cold enough they could find the squeal. LOL. It was almost 50 yesterday — what happened!) So I’ve had my exercise for the week!!!

      • trudie says:

        You poor thing! One of the very many things I love about working out of my house is not having to go out in this cold.

        • Powell says:

          Right trudie. I worked at home yesterday, was off today for doc appointment but I go in to work tomorrow. I’m not looking forward to it.

      • Powell says:

        KG the walk was good but in 12 degrees not good at all you poor thing. But you survived so that’s good. We are supposed to get snow tomorrow so we’ll see what that temp is. It’s supposed to be warmer this weekend though.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          It actually was a good walk, and if not for the cold I’d have enjoyed it a lot. Used to be I did that walk EVERY day, whatever the weather. Then I got old/soft and started driving. LOL. It’s about 20 minutes, walking or driving. But it’s much easier to drive up the hill. It’s a very steep hill!

    • L.A. Chica says:

      It’s raining here. Woohoo! We need it, it’s been so dry lately.

      • It’s -1 here and it’s only 11:11 A.M. yikes!!!! My dog didn’t even want to go out and pee.
        Hi Powell!!!
        Someone get a picture of George up

        • Powell says:

          -1? Yikes, Yikes, Yikes Diana!! Y’all just need to get back on the plus side. And LOL to the George comment. 🙂

        • Kansas Girl says:

          Diana, we’re gonna send George to you. Set him outside for a while to let him chill down a bit. (Parts might break off? Ew.)

  5. Cathy Connor says:

    Oh my, Diana scared for him if I did win !! Good Mornin NMD Hope all is well Happy Thursday

  6. Powell says:

    B & Jason need to work it out. NMD I think you’re right that Jason is asking for primary custody cause B asked for it. They should have joint custody IMO. See Porsha,RHOA. You need a pre-nup. Jason is fighting for his rights on one hand & asking for more of what’s in the pre-nip on the other hand. It’s all sad because a little girl is in the middle.

    • Contessa says:

      I don’t fault Jason one bit for asking for everything…it is a tactic for them to meet in the middle set up by their lawyers. However I truly hope they get shared custody of Bryn, a little girls needs her Daddy and I am hoping that Bethenny does not get primary or whatever so she doesn’t move to the West Coast. I think the most important thing is for Bryn to be with both parents as much as possible. All the other stuff/demands from both of them is based on what their lawyers think is strategy- JMHO.

      • chismosa says:

        Yes Contessa my feeling is if for some unseemly reason B gets full custody (and a daughter growing up with food and body image problems….,the circle continues), Bethenny will zip over to Cali. I hope Jason could contest that the way Halle Berry’s ex BF contested her moving their daughter over to France. Gall!

        I wonder if the production company can do a switcheroo and move right on back to Cali. But B said “her family” is here in ny. Aha ok

      • Iowagirl says:

        I agree it is a tactic the lawyer recommends. I doubt B will be allowed to move Bryn, Jason will fight this and win. The rest is just standard divorce crap. They will end up with joint custody. I think Bryn should stay in the home and the parents should rotate in and out.

        • Powell says:

          I think he would win also Iowagirl. Although B has success on her show it’s in LA at this time, she writes books & will have to do book tours, she has SG obligations that take her out if town, so Jason’s job is stable, set hrs for the most part & very little travel. I can see the judge saying Bryn has to live in NY. If that happens B has some choices to make. Get Ellen to do the show in NY, no show or do it in LA. How she grew up I would think she wouldn’t want to live apart from Bryn.

      • PJ says:

        One parent can’t just move like that no matter what the custody arrangement.

        • L.A. Chica says:

          One of my best friends got primary custody of her child in the divorce, but it was her ex who decided to move away — to another country! I think he did it to spite her, as he knew she put their child first in her life and would move to be closer to him so that their son would grow up knowing and having a relationship with his father. My friend’s ex is a huge jerk, I was so happy for her when they split up. Now I can’t wait until the boy is away in college so she can be free of his manipulations.

    • Cartwheels says:

      It would had been great if they could had filed a joint petition for divorce with all these details already worked out, but I have the feeling that Jason wasn’t quite ready to move on and now he is finally realizing that the marriage is done. Bethenny and Jason know that they both will end up with split custody most likely and that will take care of the child support and all the other demands.
      I think Jason asking for the apartment is his “negotiating tool” as it is obvious that his movie would not be able to afford the monthly mortgage and Bethenny might be able to provide evidence that her money was used for the down payment.
      Just wait and see I guess.

    • The only “winners” in this fight are the lawyers.
      I wish there would be “radio silence” imposed from now until it’s all finalized…

      • Jules says:

        Bethenny and Jason signed a prenup. B asked for it to be upheld in her filing. I am of the thinking that Jason isn’t such a great guy. B not the nicest but even on the show J said things to b that were not nice and he even said he had a hard time not being the breadwinner but really didn’t know what he wanted to do.

        • Cartwheels says:

          I am one of the ones who thinks Jason wasn’t such a great person. i don’t think he is a monster, I just think his personality greatly difers from what we had seen on TV, even though some snippets gave a glance on his real temper.
          I am just amused that he complained so much about being emasculated but her money and now he is asking for all her money can buy.Just pointing at the evident.

          • Powell says:

            Yeah Cartwheels. On several occasions he said to B “your money” & she wanted him included and said “our money”. Now he wants “her money”. I wonder what his folks have to say about that.

          • pat says:

            I’m in that camp, as well. I think Jason played his nice guy side for the cameras, but he was also moody and mean. Good point about the money, too. I agree that he is probably just following lawyers advice, but if he does go for anything above and beyond the prenup, that’ll be a bit hypocritical.

      • Boobah says:

        You sure are right about that PB!!!

        • Called A Princess... says:

          I think neither are perfect. They are human. Most people on TV are not being real. They are faking it to make it. We should hope the best for both and the child and their future. JMHO.

  7. Powell says:

    Leann thank you for helping our girl Brandi sell her book. Being cookoo has it’s rewards. 🙂

  8. TexasTart says:

    Good Morning! 😀
    I agree that it was too greedy for B to ask primary custody and she left Jason no alternative but to fight fire with fire! Thank you NMD, BB & SugarMagnolia for the blog items today!

    • Called A Princess... says:

      I think it is a legal stance on both parties parts, recommended by their expensive lawyers, who benefit from a drawn out expensive case. JMHO.

  9. Cartwheels says:

    Good morning 🙂
    As much as I would like to blast Jason, the truth is that he is just like Bethenny going by what his lawyer has adviced.
    At the end, they both probably know that they will end up with half of what they have ask.
    I think that it is positive that Jason has filed his papers, this means that now negotiations have started and hopefully the divorce will not be a long battle.
    I think it was wise for him not to contest the prenup as that might have opened the door to contest the modification that gave him a lump sum.

  10. chismosa says:

    Good morning. Wow I can’t believe it’s 96% on that poll for Bethenny!? How many people have voted already? Yikes I’m minority ! Lol 😬

    Did anyone catch WWH last night with Patti Lupone? Billy Eichner was there (and he was on Wendy yesterday too), and I feel he was trying a subtle dig at Bethenny and Andy brushed it off. Billy also was about to ask someone on the “street”- his show – about Bethenny but the girl cut him off. I wonder if he doesn’t like her. He was funny I have to say

    Have a great, warm-as-possible day!

    • Cartwheels says:

      I like Bethenny but I voted for the option that says that Jason is doing what he needs to do to reach an agreement. I think the poll question was not properly structured because there is only one question that makes sense.

    • Actually No – means you are voting FOR Jason in that Jason is NOT being unreasonable – ahhh too many double negatives – sorry.

      • Cartwheels says:

        I am referring to the first question, I don’t think you will find one person who thinks that Jason should just give in to all Bethenny’s demands, so by logical choice the other question makes much more sense.
        It would be like asking :Do you think that Adrienne should have told her children about the surrogacy before starting the show? the logical and only answer possible would be YES, even if that is a moot point now.

    • BB says:

      I think you misread the poll question maybe?

    • RealhouseWifeva says:

      The answers are flipped after you vote

    • VV says:

      Don’t understand why some are upset at the way B & J divorce is heading. She set the tone by the way she announced it and she set the tone with her demands.

  11. Cartwheels says:

    As far as Brandi and Leann, it bothers me to no end that these two ladies continue to fight with each other about a docuhebag like Eddie. I mean if he doesn’t have his head swollen like a ballon by now I just don’t know.
    In the real world, Brandi would be so thankful that she got rid of him and would be quiet and Leann would realize that hse made a bad investment and would be quiet about it, but I understand that they both have products to sell.
    In the meantime Eddie is LHAO and the poor kids are stuck in the middle.

    • L.A. Chica says:

      I don’t think Brandi is wishing she had Eddie back. Her eyes have been opened to his douche baggery ways. But the betrayal to her and the children still stings, yes. Also, at this point I think her big issues with Leanne are about the way Leanne seems to want to replace Brandi as the boys’ mother. She acts like she is trying to take over Brandi’s life: first the husband, then she started trying to dress like Brandi and look like her, now she’s Mom. Leanne is a sick puppy.

      • Contessa says:

        I have no doubt Brandi is over slimeball Eddie. My ex cheated on me for a full year wavering in our marriage, going to counseling and leaving our marriage (like a thief in the night)when I was tending to my terminally ill Dad. I don’t miss him one iota, however I do miss the time he took away from me with my Dad, because I had to deal with the divorce. He made me question myself (long term effect of cheating) as a woman and also later my choices in people and judgment of same. It is a precarious slope for those that are cheated on. It took me a long time to come to the conclusion that is was not my fault. His new gf (when I confronted her on the phone) was going to call the police on me for harrassment..(we lived 1800 miles apart) and they told everyone that I was cray cray and delusional and he had to leave our marriage because he feared for his life. Funny when I first found out I told him to leave and let’s settle this like adults and he was the one that wanted to work this out. Brandi is much younger and I have no doubt this has taken a huge toll on her, plus she has two little boys and will have to deal with this a$$hat for a long time, with the added bonus of cray cray slime to contend with. I am fine and so grateful to where I am in my life today. I hope Brandi finds someone that will love and adore her, like Ken w/ Lisa. I think she has a good heart and I love the fact that she is loyal to her friends.

        • L.A. Chica says:

          That’s just awful the way your ex treated you, Contessa, I’m sorry you went through that. (((hugs))) Yes, I can understand what a devastating toll cheating takes on the one who is cheated on, it’s a form of emotional abuse.

          You sound like a very strong person, you are someone to be admired. I hope your happiness continues to increase and wish you much true love in your life. 🙂

          As for Brandi, I agree with your assessment and hopes for her.

          • Contessa says:

            Hi La Chica,

            Thank you for your lovely thoughts, but it was almost 7 years ago and I am so beyond him and in such a good place. XXOO

        • Cartwheels says:

          We all have different reactions and I guess being in the public eye and constantly being asked about it doesn’t make it easy,
          I do wish that Brandi would find an honest and decent guy, a guy who will be a good role model for her children, that would be her best revenge, to have a loving man who is also doting on her children and then without having to say a word, Eddie would be able to understand why is it that it hurts Brandi so much the approach that Leann takes towards the boys.
          This is not supposed to be about Brandi and Leann, Leann is only the stepmother, this is supposed to be between Brandi and Eddie. Eddie needs to step up to the plate and makes sense of some things and control his new wife, but we all know that will not happen.

        • PJ says:

          My first husband was also a cheater, I think he may have actually slept with everyone I knew at the time and then some. He was extremely handsome and women had a difficult time saying no to him, but that doesn’t excuse the behavior theirs or his. I can honestly say that I rarely ever think about him and I have no feelings of affection left for him. After I divorced him he had three other wives that I know of and he cheated on all of them too, at the same time he begged me to come back to him and was furious when I took my maiden name back. Once you’ve been involved with a man like that you have to learn that it’s an issue of loyalty on their part and has nothing to do with the partner they cheat on. This is why I look at women who marry cheaters and wonder about them because eventually their man will cheat on them too.

          I just think why can’t these women see it why are they so delusional that they think they will be the one to change him? I think on some level they want to believe that the woman they took him from was in some way inferior so there is some feeling of superiority, this is what I see when LeAnn does interviews and mentions Brandi. I guess some women have to engage in self delusion to make it through the day.

          • L.A. Chica says:

            What makes these women think it’ll be different with them and that its OK to interfere with another woman’s marriage? Imo it’s extreme insecurity combined with extreme immaturity.

            I think that’s what Brandi recognized in Scheana and why after a certain point on their conversion Brandi said to her not to ever do that again because “you’re better than that.”

          • Contessa says:

            PJ So sorry you dealt with this…your one line “an issued of loyalty on their part and has nothing to do with the parner they cheat on” …right on. However as we both know intellectually we all know that, but it takes the heart a while to catch up. I will say that 98% cheaters are repeat offenders. My ex like yours is now on wife #4. Good Riddance to human trash!

            • PJ says:

              I know, we can know things intellectually and still have a broken heart. But I know we are both much better off without these cheaters in our lives and as for me my heart is completely healed. I hope my ex did manage to reform himself and become part of the 2% I doubt it, but wife number four gave him sons so for them I hope so. I’m just happy and grateful to be where I’m at now.

        • Amber...Real Wife says:

          Blessings to you Contessa! Thank goodness he’s gone! ITA Brandi knows she’s better off without him and is just going thru her growing pains getting assimilated to single life and being a single mom.

          LeAnn, with her shifty greedy envious eyes, continues to stalk her life. Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery but it can also lead a SWF to the brink of insanity. She wants to wear Brandi like last year’s Versace, Gucci & Loubitans! Eddie, on the other hand, just wants to wear her OUT! 😉

          • Contessa says:

            Amber, thank you!

            You are so right about LeSlime wanting to wear Brandi. Brandi will always make her crazy because the one thing she does know is that Eddie did not leave Brandi for her, Brandi threw him and it was a place to go. Eddie will always know he settled for 2nd best and now he has to sleep in this horribly uncomfortable bed that he made. I have no doubt he has to reassure Leslime everyday/all day, and that living with her is like a scene out of the old movie snakepit. This is his punishment, as he probably has no control over much of anything in that household, especially the money part.

        • L.A. Chica says:

          Many heartfelt hugs to Cartwheels and PJ, too!

        • shamrockblonde says:

          same with my daughter, Contessa – she loved that boy – truly loved him and when he cheated on her it broke her heart, but even worse it broke her confidence in herself – she blamed herself for a long time, and did not trust anyone – if a guy she was dating did not call her for two or three days she assumed he was cheating on her – it was awful to watch, and it took years for her to believe in herself again – her confidence in herself has come a long way back, but I still worry about how his actions will affect any serious relationship she has – her heart is finally open enough to accept the love of another, or at least to entertain the thought of trusting in that love – while I wish her to find a good and loving man, and to believe in that love, mostly I pray that she finds herself – that wonderful, strong, and fearless little girl who grew in confidence- I know she’s in there – and more and more I see glimpses of her –
          I’m sorry that he did that to you but please know that the fault is his – and he is the one who truly lost – *hugs Contessa really hard*

          • Hey Shamrock *Waving*! It is so very hard to watch our daughters go through that scenario isn’t it? My DD went through something similar and it was so hard to watch her lose her confidence and self esteem because of the actions of a selfish man. I wish they (the men) could have even an iota of the damage they do (or care) and walk away before they cheat. Their actions take a moment while the lovely women who it is done to have to spend so much of their valuable lives healing and regaining their strength and confidence. And we have to watch them hurt….and that is so painful.

            I hope your daughter is doing much better now and able to see her worth is so much more than what her husband led her to believe. *Hugs Shamrock and Daughter really hard!*

            • shamrockblonde says:

              thank you MarDrag – about two weeks after she took the then babies and moved in with us, at my urging, she approached him to see if he would consider counseling – his response – “well let me see how things work out with – insert name here – we called her the twinkie – and if doesn’t work out then maybe – we’ll see” – that, I think is what truly devastated her – it has been a long process but having the twins with her, with us, has given her a reason to keep her head up and not crawl too far into herself – even though she is a grown woman, in my heart, she is my baby –

              I will be passing along your hug to her –

              • Our kids, when they hurt, will always be our “babies” I think! What a creep to say that to her. Thankfully she has those children, and you for a mother. With that support, and other lives to raise herself up to look after, she will be fine. Passing along more hugs to you both!

        • Powell says:

          Contessa I hope Brandi reads your words. She can definitely learn from you.

          • pat says:

            I do hope Brandi chooses better next time around, and gets her Ken. Someone sweet and devoted, to grow old with, but also someone with an edge and sense of humor. No more douchebags!!!!
            It’s sad that this sociopathic Leann Rimes is in her life and her kids’ lives, for who knows how long. It annoys me how Leann keeps doing these interviews, where you can tell she thinks she’s coming across so level-headed, articulate and charming, and then she goes RIGHT BACK to her crazy stalking of Brandi.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              Their is a rumor that Ken has had affairs and that the son is his but not Lisa’s. Also that he is bi sexual and that they have an open marriage. LOL. Although this relationship may work well for them, I am not sure that Brandi would be able to handle such an unconventional arrangement. JMHO.

              • Cartwheels says:

                Well, if those rumors are tue I hope that Lisa doesn’t have a weak moment and confide in Brandi because next season she might find herself on the other side of Brandi’s “true cannon”.

                • Called A Princess... says:

                  I know. I have thought about that too. These characters can flip on each other rather fast. They are not really friends so all seems fair, would be my thought. JMHO.

  12. PJ says:

    Very interesting blog. Bulldog sounds interesting I think it should be fun to find out what he has to say, unless he’s just blowing smoke. It sounds like he is playing cat and mouse with Melissa so he probably has something big on her, funny but crazy too.

    Jason and Bethenny will probably end up sharing custody but I think he wants a big payday. I don’t care for Jason.

    Adrienne saying Brandi tried to ruin her family, oh brother. I believe it was the other way around.

    • Cartwheels says:

      I only hope that Jason is requesting for the apartment as a negotiating tool and doesn’t think for real that he will keep the apartment that Bethenny’s money had helped buy, but at this point nothing will surprise me.

      As far as this bulldog character, uhmmmm he can fuss all he wants in his twitter line but until he comes up front and talks about any of it in the show, then it doesn’t matter.
      Only the viewers who read blogs or follow twitters know any of this but I bet that out of the 3.5M viewers who saw the finale or the reunions, less than 10% knows what happenes between seasons or behind scenes. If you only watch the show, then everything that Bravo presents to you (good or bad edit) is the only point of reference you have.

      Melissa knows this, so as long as it doesn’t come up in the show, she really doesn’t care. Look at Penny and her husband, they have been after Melissa hardcore for about two years, have they ever have their say on the actual show? Nope… same with this bulldog.. it is nice fodder for the ones like us who follow the blogs but that is about it.

      • melthehound says:

        FWIW, My impressions of the entire Marco klan came from the show. Not the blogs. The blogs have only served to reenforce what I think of them.

      • PJ says:

        Melissa went on the sympathy/victim tour last year going on talk shows, appearing on magazine covers, giving interviews and she garnered a lot of attention saying she was set up and this stuff was all lies bla bla bla. I think that if there is concrete proof that she was lying all those people that were taken in by her victim act are going to have something to say. A lot of people who watch the HW shows do read the blogs even if they may not comment, so I think that if this Bulldog outs Melissa a lot of people will know not just those who comment here.

    • L.A. Chica says:

      When it comes to Adrienne it’s almost always the other way around.

  13. Morning all… A tad chilly here last night in suny fla…I hate those 30 degree temp drops in 4 hrs…ugh..makes dog walking no fun for me..but the girls love that crispy air…white socks pink flip flops and grey flannel bath robe..what a fashion statement for my neighbors…. lol lol

    B & J divorce…. it’s truly a shame in this day and age when people who once professed to love each other are now at war in a few short years…and using a child as their weapon of choice…DISGUSTING… what ever happened to compromise and wanting to work things out..
    An elderly couple was once asked what was the secret to their 60 yr marriage..the wife said they lasted because they came from the time when you didnt throw things away because they were broke..you fixed them …. so true…

    mr ford and I have been together 32 years this coming St Patricks Day ..has it been a bed of clouds and rainbows..HELL NO.. but the GREAT TIMES outweigh the BAD TIMES and we each learned to compromise and allow the other to be …well… themselves..and then together we were and are … awesome…

    B & J need to go back in time and reevaluate their priorities and what brought them together to begin with and if possible find a solution to their ills…. away from the cameras and all the glare of reality tv and all that it brings with it…. the only winner in this needs to be BRYN,,,,

    all this melissa / bulldog CRAP… well ..just that, crap… time for these people to grow the eff up..quit playing these high school tit for tat games and join the grown up world …. I , for one , am over hearing about it and reading about it….. same with Brandi and LeAnn …over it… two adult women who need to pack it in and live their own lives…..
    jmho as always

    hugs and peace

    • chismosa says:

      Yeah my parents are married almost 50 years soon, and I just think they were blessed to have smart heads to attract and be attracted to the right types of people. I don’t think they ever had to work work work. It just happens seamlessly for some couples i feel. Then again, I don’t know all their secrets !

      I like to believe in that the right marriages there should not be too much hard “work” because that is what I grew up with. But then that opens up other things to think about so….. And Jason came from, by all accounts a good marriage by his parents.
      I think Pierce Brosnan said it or someone , I forget. That if its work, it’s not a great marriage. But everyone thinks differently about this stuff I know.

      I think Bethenny is attracted to super super overly-successful cerebral men and she needs to be honest with herself about that. She wants what her father was. Total psych freshman class analysis. Haha

      • Cartwheels says:

        But the again she married Jason who is none of that.

      • L.A. Chica says:

        I think that 80% of the work that marriage requires is really on ourselves: to be open to compromise and negotiation, to be unselfish, to make decisions that are in the best interest of the marriage and aren’t just about what we want for ourselves. The work is about growing up and out of narcissistic youth, and it’s a tricky balance between maintaining your sense of self while not only maintaining a partnership but helping it thrive.

        In my experience and observation, couples who accept and love each other for who they are and not who they want the other person to be have the most success. But it is a two way street, and if one person isn’t on board then it’s not going to work out well, no matter how hard the other tries.

        There’s an excellent book on the subject called “Getting the Love You Want” by Harville Hendrix. IMHO Bethenny and Jason should read it. It might help them in raising Bryn, too.

        /Dr. Chica 😉

        • L.A. Chica says:

          Make that 90%. Or even 95.

          • In our marriage this is how we spell love..TRUST
            for years poor mr ford would be “picked on” by his guy friends ( jokingly) because of all the MEN ( contractors ) that would be coming to the house for business… we had a strong enough relationship to mever let it bother us…same with the money aspect of it..I certainly made LOTS MORE MONEY than mr ford ever did, but we never allowed for that to come between us… as far as I was concerned, it was for the FAMILY and for the things we needed and wanted in life…. I guess we both were real lucky that we found each other when we did .. he truly is my soul mate and I knew the minute I met him that we were going to be together for ever….

            and on another note… OMG… today I opened my facebook and lo and behold… a friend request AND a message from a guy that I was going to marry back before I met mr ford..lol lol lol …… I would have done it..cept…I got a wild hair and myself and my best gf went on a road trip to Colorado for the winter for some girl time… oops..then I met mr ford and the rest is history…now get this… this dude NEVER GOT MARRIED.. he made it point in his message to me today to let me know that I broke his heart and he never recovered…lol lol lol … can’t wait to call my gf and let her know…. she’ll get a good laugh out of that one for sure… let the good times roll….

            hugs and peace

            • L.A. Chica says:

              You sound very happily married, Diva! 😀 I am, too, and couldn’t agree with you more about the importance of Trust. It’s an absolute must.

        • Well said LAChica, it is true the one (and only one) you can ever change is yourself! Some people are just not suited to marriage, Bethenny appears to fall into that category.

          Marriages that last a long time involve two mature, willing to compromise, supportive and loving adults. If you can’t overlook the small things, then don’t get married. Funny thing is, if you marry too young, it’s tough to last 50 years because people do change a lot from say 18 to later 20s. OTOH, if you marry too old, then you’re set in your ways & less willing to compromise for the sake of the marriage! And now at my advanced age, I think I’ve totally forgotten what my husband & were like back in our twenties. We are happy to still be together after all these years. I guess he likes my cooking skills lol.

          I’ll never forget a man that I met thru selling him an investment property. He was discussing his finances, which were totally separate from his wife’s. When he saw that I was a little surprised by that, he said “oh, well you’re on your first marriage.” Turns out he was married 3 times lol, and had learned to keep his money in his own account. Another guy couldn’t remember all the names of his ex-wives when we were filling out paper work for the closing with the attorney. Even funnier, he had been married to 2 different women with the same name! He must have been married at least 5 times.

          So now in my 50s, I have come to the conclusion that one marriage is plenty enough for me. Should anything happen to my dh, I will remain single! Don’t nobody have enough time for that (putting up with another husband lol). Single & making all the decisions on my own has it’s attractions. Plus from watching ID tv, I am very skeered of those con artist men that manage to romance you & steal every dime at the same time.

  14. chismosa says:

    I meant to mention this another day but did anyone see in the latest blogs, magazines –stupid insipid Patti Stankface has been openly talking about the Bethenny split? She even said that Bethenny was “seeing one of her clients at the same time as she was seeing Jason” and asked Patti for ADVICE on what to do because “Bethenny didn’t care for the fact that Jason didnt make a lot of money”. (Most pharma reps actually do but I think Bethenny is not honest with herself and truly is attracted to Lichtenstein-type money)

    First off, I thought these two chicks hated each other back from the whole phone conversation that “every cow can have a baby!” with patti and Jillzy. So what the hell is Patti doing opening up her mouth.

    Plus, how are her ratings? Is Simon’s bravo numbers site accurate ? Can I check that ? She’s just too disgusting. She should not be opening her mouth up about Bethenny if she can’t stand her. Geez

    Ok have to catch up later but I just couldn’t believe how much Patti is running at the mouth about B.

    • Cartwheels says:

      I read that too but I think patty Stanker is abusing the fact that Bethenny won’t even acknowledge her to make this crap up.
      If it is true that Patty had Bethenny as a client long time ago, why haven’t we heard about this for the many years that they have been feuding, why she waited to tell this story just now?
      My take on this and one that would explain their feud is that after Bethenny broke up with Jason 1.0 , Jill as the true yenta she is, brought Patty around Bethenny and “suggested” her to use Patty’s services and that would make a great story line for the show and give Patty the exposure she needed, after all she was working on her own matchmaker show, kind of like a cross over between shows. Bethenny might have thought about it but then declined because she knew how stupid she would like and Patty took it as a snub and hold the grudge. We have seen Bethenny date on the RHNY season 2 without Patty’s help and then she met Jason, when Bethenny got pregnant and got in a feud with Jill, Patty immediately jump into the fire for Jill because of her previous grudge.
      Now Patty is giving advice to Bethenny? I LMAO
      Patty will be best suited by giving advice to herself especially after the fact that her own matchmaking skills were not capable to find her a BF and she had to go to a regular online matchmaking agency. BTW, how many times has Patty been married?

    • tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com has the numbers of viewers but if less than say 900,000 watch, it won’t even show up as they only list the top 100. I couldn’t find MM or Kathy Griffin’s show for last week. Bravo can still make money on Kathy G’s show because it must be really cheap to produce. MM hopefully will just go away.

  15. BB says:

    It’s 32 degrees here, the sun is shining, AND it’s snowing.

  16. Good Morning! I hope everyone is staying warm. We have a bit of rain here, and I love it. It is also needed! But the temps are up.

    I think Jason’s divorce response is a natural progression when filing in a case like this? If Bethany had filed for joint custody, likely so would Jason have done. What I don’t understand is, with both their resources and (supposed) intentions….why can’t they hash out the details and settle this in private? Unless, of course, the publicity is intentional. 😦

    Re: Bulldog…..we need to remember there is a huge, nashing, giant jawed publicity machine at work whose name starts with a B and has the letters R A V O in it. I think this is allll staged to get interest back in NJ. Everyone was sick of it at the end of the last season. They think this will start it up again. Should we let them get their wish? (Look at me, commenting on NJ!) 😉

    Great Top Chef recap…..fell asleep and missed it but will watch on DVR. So glad to hear Josie was ousted finally!

    Have a great Thursday everybody!! 😀

    New post, “Is The Glass Half Full or Half Empty?” up at my place. Enjoy!

    • Boobah says:

      Hey there, Mardrag! Glad to hear your getting some rain.

      I got a good chuckle from the way you spelled out Bravo! But you might just be right – a huge PR stunt. Ugh. I just don’t know if I will tune in to watch.

      I agree re: Bethenny and Jason. I wish they were more private with this. Maybe they figured it would leak anyway so why bother? Who knows.

      Your blog is great today, BTW!

      • Hi Boobah! I def won’t and haven’t tuned into NJ since the first season. It jumped so far over the shark for me that I refuse to watch it and never read the blogs or commented on the show. It is unusual for me to comment on anything NJ related….but I couldn’t help putting it out there that Bravo deliberately goes out to find people that will bring drama and then sets up the story line and their “scripts”. I just can’t help feeling this is all staged.

        Having said that, this will prolly be the only time I do comment on NJ. So…don’t put too much stock in it! LOL! 🙂

        Thanks about the blog! You are a sweetie! 😀

    • Cartwheels says:

      My feeling is that Bethenny wanted them to file jointly but Jason wasn’t down with the idea of divorce and wanted to keeping living separate lives under the same roof.
      According to some reports Jason has about moved all his stuff to another apartment and Bethenny went on a New Year trip to give him the privacy to move hte rest of his stuff out but when she come back he was still there.
      I am sure they discussed things and Bethenny realized that her idea od doing this amicably wasn’t going to fly and started the process by filing her proposal. Like you I think they will probably share custody.
      I am always into reading more inot what he didn’t request than into what he requested so i am finding his petition more and more interesting.

      • Cartwheels…..I do agree that Jason likely did not want the divorce. B said she wanted the fairy tale and thought she had it….but even fairy tales take time to fill the pages in with the story. I don’t think either of them gave it enough time or work. 3 years….that is a baby marriage…..yet it is long enough for some to realize they don’t belong together….so I don’t want to judge either of them.

        I also think B was “in love with the IDEA of Jason”….but when faced with it, found out she really is attracted to a different type of man. And she only found that out after marrying the type of guy she “thought she wanted” and was probably her “childhood dream”. Those dashed dreams are hard to face. And for Jason, that would make him feel like a failure because in some way, he didn’t live up to her dream guy.

        I do agree with you that the back and forth of these filings have only just begun!

  17. melthehound says:

    “Gdmorn everyone! Jeez I don’t know what’s worse watching her last Video on twitter or reruns of Jerry springer idk both fake lol”
    Give me the Jerry Springer reruns any day 😉

  18. Boobah says:

    G’mornin’ all. Thank you NMD, SugarMag, and BB for a great blog today! I love when there’s a blog poll!

    I feel bad for Brynn. I was rooting for B & J, but I guess they are just unable to make it work. At this point, I hope it moves along swifty to minimize the damage to their daughter as well as themselves.

    The whole Bulldog thing is such nonsene. WTF!?! Is it just me, or is NJ the only one of the HW franchises that has people come outtta the woodwork to talk smack about the housewives?? Wait a minute – I forgot about Bethenny’s mom and Leann. But it still seems like the NJ HW’s have more people that come forward. And what’s up with the names???!! Johnny The Greek, Bulldog…wth?

    The thing between Brandi and Leann is old. They all have to figure something out also. Why aren’t these people thinking about their children?? SMH.

    Hope everyone has a good say. It’s cold here!!

    • L.A. Chica says:

      What does SMH mean? I’ve been seeing it a lot lately and am clueless.

      • BB says:

        Shaking My Head

      • Boobah says:

        Shakes My head.

        This is so funny because I rarely know acronyms myself! It’s not uncommon for me to have to look ’em up. 😀

      • lachica…smh…shaking my head !!!!

      • L.A. Chica says:

        Thank you, all! And now I am SMH at not knowing that. lol

        • melthehound says:

          Don’t feel bad. I’ve had to look most of them up. One that had me stumped for awhile was IKR? (I know, Right?)

      • urbandictionary.com is my goto site

        • designernailsdiana says:

          Just a thought, but couldn’t the whole Leanne Brandi feud be PR as well. I mean look at the timing of the drama. I haven’t thought all angles out yet, but for LeeLee to go on tv when Brandi was just on. And isn’t the RHOBH shown on MONDAY, so why would LeeLee need to talk to someone Monday BEFORE the show even airs? Stoopid made up drama.
          I feel for those boys, I hope Edster has some good counselors for them in the next few years.
          I truly hoped B & J were doing a faux break up to hype her show, but this is just so sad. Poor Bryn.

          • L.A. Chica says:

            Why would Leanne do any PR favors for Brandi at the expense of her own career? If they were roller derby queens or professional wrestlers that would be one thing, but she’s a singer and music fans generally don’t like their darlings to behave like skanky assholes. I don’t think they do, anyway. Didn’t Leanne lose a lot of fans over her relationship with Eddie?

            • PJ says:

              The thing is that I had forgotten LeAnne existed till all this cheating stuff came out. I think this is the best thing that has happened to LeAnne in years career wise that is. When is the last time, before all this, that you saw LeAnne on any late night show or being interviewed much less singing on a national TV show?

              • L.A. Chica says:

                Well, truth be told I don’t watch many of the shows that would feature Leanne nor most singers. I’d never seen Kelly Clarkson perform before watching her at the Inauguration the other day (she was amazing!). So I think I’m a bad barometer for that. 😳

              • L.A. Chica says:

                Pretty much the only time I see musicians perform these days is if they’re on Colbert or SNL. I am really out of the loop, music-wise.

                • PJ says:

                  My husband is a musician so I am exposed to all kinds of music all the time. This observation is just from my perspective though and there are probably a lot of people that would disagree with me but I had forgotten about LeAnne until the cheating stuff happened.

  19. Rebecca says:

    Another site posted a story that there was a jewelry show put on by Kim D. The housewives all showed up as well as Joey Marco, which turned into him shouting at Teresa during the party. My guess is that Melissa claimed Teresa was mean to her at Gia’s party because she wasn’t the center of attention.

    So its the same-old, same-old, bash Teresa show. Oy vey.

    I think Teresa should get out of her contract with Bravo and head over to E! as their family reality shows have less screaming. She could turn her kids into superstars.

    • BB says:

      Ugh! The same old, same old. I’ll take a pass, thank you very much.

    • melthehound says:

      Groan… I swear that guy talks about Tarzan so much because in reality, he has a vagina (too).

      • BB says:

        IKR. I haven’t been to any jewelry parties where the guys were invited. Not to say it doesn’t happen, but why is he at a jewelry party? And why would Melissa be at a jewelry party hosted by Kim D. Don’t they hate each other or am I getting my Kims confused? I’m so over NJ.

        • melthehound says:

          I know I spend a bit of time here talking with the women about women on a primarily women’s show but I would NEVER show up at one of your events unless specifically invited and I knew, there would be other men there as well. I damn sure wouldn’t get in a fight with my sister while there.

          You have the right Kim, I think. The other one is Kim G, the nosy neihbor. This is the same one who MeGo groaned at going to the now infamous fashion show last season. That whole scenario suggests that they (the Marcos) went to this jewelery party (whatever that is) specifically to cause trouble (same with the fashion show last season).

        • Rebecca says:

          You know the answer. Melissa’s talking head will complain that Kim D hates her for no reason and is trying to ruin her life, and she’s trying to be the bigger person and letting it all slide.

          They need new script writers!

      • Contessa says:

        LMAO, and spit coffee all over my desk!!!!!

    • so scripted, it’s pathetic

      I wish T would leave Bravo for another network. She’s too loyal, and not smart enough to see how they use her (like last season when T was cast as the bad hw, and Melissa got the good edit.)

      Fact is, we are all being used by Bravo!! These producers take the fake storylines, script the drama, and merrily skip to the bank while we continue to watch their crap shows. Reality Schmality, it’s all a hoax to get $. Look at RHOBH – how long have they been dangling the stupid secret that Brandi supposedly outed?? Good grief, we had it figured out right away (surrogacy) and STILL we watch! Now what I do is read here first, then zip thru the real show (hardly watch ’em anymore) & just hit the highlights. Or is that lowlights lol?

      So many really good shows on tv that I hardly go to Schmucky Bravo anymore. Nashville was sooo good last night, I love that show. 🙂

  20. Mene Seela says:

    I’ve known several people mid-divorce and to me Jason’s response sounds quite measured.
    I have the feeling they will end up with a shared arrangement acceptable to everyone. Possibly with Bryn staying with Jason in NY when Bethenny travels for business so the little girl won’t be uprooted.
    Bryn is a little girl today but will soon she will be in school. Additionally, in Manhattan, many children attend “certain” preschools just so they can be considered by the best grade schools – so daily attendence at school is not that far off for Bryn.

    I like it that neither Bethenny or Jason are going out guns blazing. Relative to the circumstances.

    • Cartwheels says:

      I agree.
      Everybody blasted Bethenny when she asked for all the same things Jason is asking and I understood that it was just standard procedure, now Jason has done the same and the mediation process will take them to a route were mostly every one of their petitions will be solved in the middle.
      I do find it fascinating though that Jason hasn’t requeste do annul the pre-nup. I read previously that the pre-nup was an iron clad and very especific prenup but I would had loved to peek at the modification that Bethenny did on Jason’s behalf.

  21. VV says:

    Paul Posted on FB:

    “A couple of you who are visiting LA have asked for my recommendations on restaurants. Some of my favorites are Via Alloro and Il Pastaio for Italian; Boa, Cut and Mastro’s for steak; Crustacean for the Tiger Shrimp & Garlic Noodles; Spago for the classic Wolfgang Puck experience; The Grill for celebrity sightings/power lunch; Fountain Coffee Room at the Beverly Hills Hotel for breakfast and no trip to LA would complete without a stop at In-N-Out Burger”

    No Villa Blanca or SUR? …. A little Passive/Agressive don’t you think?

    • melthehound says:

      I see nothing wrong with the man listing his preferences. He doesn’t owe Lisa V anything.

      • VV says:

        He gets asked about EVERYTHING everydsy. The fact that he chose to reply to the question about restaurants, makes me think it’s a dig.
        This is his way of saying I’m on Mauricio’s side. IMO.

        …..and yes , I know he was spotted eating at Villa Blanca weeks ago.

        • melthehound says:

          Could be, VV… I didn’t suggest he never goes to VB (or SUR). The only place on that list I’m familiar with is In & Out (Double Double for me please 😀 ). I’m just saying that he may in fact have his own preferences, not tied to any of the HWs or the show and those are what he chose to list.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I don’t think it was a dig either, especially given if people are asking him about restaurants it’s because they know him from the show and they would already know about Villa Blanca and SUR, it would be redundant to mention them.

          • VV says:

            I know you didn’t. I wrote that in there – that he ate there recently – for Dr TP supporters because if I hadn’t mentioned it. That would be the first thing they would bring up 😉

    • hahaha nope I think he’s giving out the restaurants that he likes! I’m kind of glad he didn’t mention Lisa’s restaurants because then I’d suspect him of trying to butter her up.

      • BB says:

        Me too. I’m sure there are a gazillion restaurants in LA. He’s probably being honest in listing the ones he personally likes. Lisa’s two restaurants get enough free advertisement on Bravo.

        • L.A. Chica says:

          There are definitely at least a gazillion restaurants here. Did you you that Los Angeles has the most restaurant workers of any other city in the country?

          As for Paul’s favorites, I have to agree with him on Spago, Boa, and Cut, all are top notch. The Fountain Cafe in the Beverly Hills Hotel is fun for breakfast, I like their oatmeal. Haven’t been to some of the others he’s mentioned. I would add to a list of recommended places: Madeo, for Italian in West Hollywood; Chateau Marmont, for a peaceful and quiet atmosphere and good food in West Hollywood; Craft (Tom Colicchio’s place), it’s in Century City and *everything* on the menu is fantastic imho; Real Food Daily if you’re in a vegetarian mood (it’s vegan), in Santa Monica and West Hollywood. I could go on and on, it all depends on what you’re in the mood for and what your budget is. There is great food to be had at all price points, you don’t have to spend a lot unless you want to or unless a fancier atmosphere is important for the occasion.

          I’ve been to Sur for lunch and it was very good, but the service – while not bad – wasn’t as great as I’d expected. Maybe my friends and I werent young and hip enough? lol

          I’d love to try Villa Blanca some day.

  22. california35 says:

    “My guess is he’s just happy she’s leaving him alone.” LOL!!!

    good morning everyone – have a nice day – busy day for me. that is how i like it though, so dont feel bad for me 🙂 as long as there is no drama, i am ok 🙂

  23. WindyCityWondering says:

    Leann paraded those boys around like accessories! She went on and on about “her family”. Brandi said she doesn’t want Eddie to divorce Leann so her sons don’t go through that trauma again. Leann should spend more time on restarting her career and less time obsession about her husband’s ex wife.
    Since it was announced that Melissa was going to be on RHNJ there have always been whispers from her colorful past on blogs and twitter. Melissa has her sisters do her dirty work on twitter and it is one big game of cat and mouse! Bulldog/Butch has always been referred to and it sounds like he was willing to stay in her past but something recently changed his mind. Wonder what happened.
    I don’t understand why Jason released his divorce demands publically. Maybe they can do a Kelly/Gilles and have two apartments in the same building so Bryn can move freely between them. I hope they are thinking of her future because school is right around the corner and they need to provide her a stable environment.
    Hooray Josie is gone! I never saw Top Chef qualities in her dishes and she was annoying to watch.

    • I find that there is a Bulldog in Melissa’s past giggle inducing. I’m loving the drama & the tweets. I sure would like NJ to be a real reality show, digging up all the nitwits from Melissa’s past, Joey Marco’s past etc. and just let it rip.

    • Cartwheels says:

      Same as with Bethenny, i don’t think she released it to the public, she filed and the media immediately digs into it an publish it. They were probably waiting for Jason’s petition because he only has like 30 days to reply, they probably followed his lawyer to the courthouse and then immediately released it.

      kelly was lucky, when her divorce went through nobody cared about her so they were able to do it privately.

    • kit9 says:

      Brandi is the one that is constantly attacking Leann. Leann isn’t constantly calling Brandi names and constantly talking about her. Brandi is the one that comes off more obsessed by far. Leann has only responded to the most vicious attacks by Brandi and then, still doesn’t trash Brandi. And, at least Leann has a career. Brandi is always complaining about being broke but….she doesn’t work. She’s an able bodied woman, no reason she can’t get a job.

      • PJ says:

        Lynne wrote quite extensively about how LeAnne treated Brandi and it wasn’t pretty, It was clear in those blogs that the obsessed one wasn’t Brandi. LeAnne may pretend to be the victim but in my opinion it’s just pretense. Brandi does work she is on RH which is a job she has a clothing line and wrote a book, she is taking whatever opportunities come her way. Would it be better if Brandi had some low paying job and couldn’t support her children?

  24. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Hello All! Beautiful day here in Sunny Chilly Florida! High of 70* 🙂

    Some of you know that i’m not a TreFan. Understatement I know. LOL My gripe with her was that I encountered a similar reception from my in-laws when I started dating RealHusband ooohhh um about 24 years ago! Violins puh-leeze… I was a young nubile beauty, LOL who looked like JanetJackson with extra meat! LMAO. We met before Easter in NYC and were inseparable from the first moment. We dated 6 MONTHS before I lost my virginity to him. He’s the only man i’ve ever “BEEN” with and I love and respect him and my marriage vow that I don’t think i’ve missed out on anything. Unlike Marisa of Beverly Hills.

    Meanwhile his older sister “HATED” me. She poisoned his Mother against me and said I was a whore, bitch ( this one i’ll own) and snob. She didn’t want me to visit their home but my boyfriend INSISTED that as he was a breadwinner and contributor to the home that I was welcome. His middle sister sided with the oldest but the youngest sister who was a tween, loved me and I loved her. It took me moving to Florida, him following 6 months later and us eloping to Vegas with my RealParents as the witnesses for them to finally ‘ACCEPT’ me.

    My SIL Maria, 10 years later, became a friend, confidante and SISTER. She finally admitted that she resented me because she was jealous of my style, knew that I was a good girl and not a slut, but she had liked his prior girlfriend who was a gift-giving slave to them while I never offered to do anything for them. To which I responded “You damned right! Buy your own sh!t and how the hell i’m gonna clean your house and do your laundry when my mother was doing mine bitch?” We spoke often and comforted each other when her Mother passed away and then my beautiful SIL Maria passed away unexpectedly 2 years ago. I mourned her death even more than her brother who ended up consoling me! I miss her so much. We started so badly but in the end we loved each other. Time is fleeting and you never know when you’ll be gone.

    Wow what a detour but that is why I understood where MeGo was coming from. A jealous, possessive SIL who doesn’t think you’re good enough for her brother. Even though I never worked at a ‘BIKINI BAR’, your welcome LOL, I did have 2 exes who made up lies and talked badly about me. One admitted it was because he wanted to break ‘us’ up and hoped to sleep with me on the rebound while the other was jealous because I didn’t sleep with him. Really? Now this sleeping BULLDOG is being poked, prodded and f&*cked with so much that he’s hinting that he’s got explosive secrets to sell, I mean tell. <— Saw what I did there? 😉 I hope this guy doesn't show himself to be a sleazeball and keeps his dealings with Mel in the past. Even if she was a dancer, stripper, bartender, thief… the past loves of a young girl belong in the past. Tre was in her late 20s when she and Juicey started dating. We've only heard of one ex thru Juicey. Is it that her exes are gentlemen or fear the incredible bulk that is Juicey? I would find it distasteful if some guy came out saying yuckky stuff about Tre too.

    Finally, at the end of the day and nothing for nothing, but this guy has had brain surgery and should be focused on recuperating NOT engaging strangers and trolls on twitter. For someone who keeps saying he was outed and he didn't ask for this, he's sure pretty chatty and threatening ain't he? Whatever revelations he may make will be dismissed as the unreliable rantings of a famewhore, brain tumor patient and vengeful ex-boyfriend. Even the worst truth, if it exists in RHONJ, will not change the perceptions the viewers have of MeGo or JoGo. Some will be vindicated in their dislike of Mel, others like me will be like …next!

    • Powell says:

      Well dang Amber. They hated you for no reason at all. I’m glad you ended up being sisters but what a waste of time huh? At the time did your husband figure out that was the reason they hated you?

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        He knew his sister was jealous of me. He told me so. He also told me they loved the ex because she bought their affection, did the laundry @ the laundromat no less and ran countless errands. They encouraged him to go back to the ex but he refused and she gave up. My two SILs who couldn’t stand me ended up being more loving and attentive than my incorrigible favorite Nora. I love them all and they know I love, honor and defend their brother. Notice I didn’t say… OBEY? LOL

    • Rebecca says:

      Or maybe there’s another, easier answer…. Melissa really does have a nasty past. There are so many people out there saying she is horrible and has done horrible things. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

      Nobody is coming forth from Teresa’s past to say what a horrible person she has always been.

      Fans and viewers spouting “opinions” and not facts are one thing. True live people from these women’s pasts are another.

      Melissa is not you. You need to separate this and see it for what it is.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I know she’s not me Rebecca. That similarity with the hateful In-Laws is only yet ANOTHER reason i’m NOT a TreFan. Mel could be horrible, just like I and many others think Tre is horrible. When you become a fan you disregard the bad qualities which they BOTH have and just appreciate the good ones. *Shrug*

        • Auntie LaLa says:

          Siblings judge what siblings bring home and to me, rightfully so. I wouldn’t want my brothers with a golddigging skank. It’s not at all about looks but about attitude and intentions and how much the prospective SIL cares to show she wants to be a loving part of the family. As a prospective SIL, women want to love a new sister, with visions of fun dates together and dinners and cocktails at each others’ houses. When you get close to your brother’s girlfriend and they break up, YOUR heart breaks. So you become as a prospective SIL a little more wary before you give YOUR loving heart to another woman as a prospective sister. Seems, however, that you like bragging about your looks and are proud to “own” up to being a “bitch.” That is NOT a compliment or something to be proud of, BTW.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I’m confused. Are you saying that Mel is bragging about her looks and being a bitch or Amber? Because I can see it with Mel but not Amber.

            • Amber...Real Wife says:

              LMAO That’s what i’m saying RabbleRouser! LOL

              I can’t help what the truth was as admitted to me by my own SIL. She was jealous. I, nor other prospective new SILs aren’t in the market to go around earning a family. I’m all about LEARNING your family. Your husband is the one who decides who he brings home. Possessive and intrusive family members only manage to make the bond between the marriage stronger if the union is meant to be and if they ruin the relationship do they really think they win? Also when SILs get so wrapped up with their brother’s girlfriends maybe they should date the ex if they love her that much?

              BTW Bitch, depending on the way it is said isn’t that bad a thing.

              B Beauty
              I In
              T Total
              C Control of
              H Herself

              Deuces Bitch!

      • kit9 says:

        By so many people do you mean the lunatic at Famewhorgas? Come on, there is no horrible secret about Melissa. What, did she cheat on a boyfriend? Oh no! There is no reality to the Melissa is An Evil Puppy Killing Monster. And, we don’t need to hear people say what a horrible human being Teresa is….we see that on the show for ourselves. And, that there isn’t a Teresa based FameWhorga it’s just because there isn’t somebody completely obsessed with her the way the FH nut is obsessed with Melissa. Seriously, that person is sick. Absolutely bat shi* crazy.

    • Exit4 says:

      I can see where you’re coming from with your experiences. I am on Teresa’s “side” so to speak, simply because so many people have the experience you did. Some even worse. But is it right to take private family “stuff” no matter how hurtful-straight to the public? Would you have done that to your SIL?

      When things are bad, it might seem like a good idea. Get revenge, make some money, become a singer (I’m Melissa, Ms. Gorga if you’re Nasty-couldn’t resist-sorry!) or whatever.

      Is it worth hurting your inlaws? Who, even if they’re mean-you’re still their sons wife. Damaging the cousin relationships?

      Things worked out for you and that’s great! Like you said things have a tendency to do that. This is why I’ve never warmed up to the Gorgas. Believe me, I get taking opportunities. But their opportunities were based on dragging a family and extended family through the mud. It’s easier to repair things in a family when your stuff stays in the family. If it hurt Mel that the elder Gorgas didn’t care for her-and are pulling away from their son b/c his sister is “poisioning” their minds-hitting the reality tv circuit and all the media it entails isn’t the way to fix it! In fact, it almost solidifies everything that’s said bad about Mel. A parent watching their son go after their sister for the world to see? That erases the negative that Teresa does is a sense, because Joey gave it to the world!
      And even if you don’t agree with that way of thinking, it doesn’t matter, that’s the Elder Gorgas way of thinking and that’s what matters.

      I think that Melissa and Joey believed enough people disliked Teresa that they could come on the show and say “see, SEE”?!? But it kinda backfired. I always thought that they had a choice the day of the christening. Teresa was more then happy to play fake (which I think is how she operates) and Mel and Joey could have too. They chose to call her garbage in from of Gia (no one seems to recall Gia was standing there) and next thing you know, chaos! It wouldn’t surprise me if the Gorgas thought “this didn’t happen at Audrianas christening” LOL

      You guys fixed it because as crappy as it was-you had distance. It want everyone and their brothers business, you guys weren’t bombarded by media and crazy Twitter people. I’m sure some things that transpired went off into vague memories. The Gorgas have all thei negativity on video, so their kids can relive it over and over. Especially when their Aunt said she was moving away because her kids will bully hers. Way to keep the kids together!

      This family was torn already-and sadly they won’t have a chance I don’t believe, to out it back in a good place like you did. Since this show effectively shredded, stomped on and then burned it!

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        The Christening debacle was AWFUL! Liquor and high emotions went a long way in ruining a sacred milestone. Everything that couldv’e diffused the evening went awry and phony civility caused the chaos amongst a family where raw emotions quickly escalate out of control. Unbeknownst to JoGo, Juicey had diahrrea and refused to toast with him effectively snubbing him infront of a crowd. Tre after threatening to quit the show if they were hired, angrily telling Mel not to join the show wanted to be civil infront of the cameras. To regular people that would be okay. To the GorgaDices this means WAR! IT was all on the family how they would be portrayed. They are edited but the action i.e. film is there. They could’ve cut the BullShit11 and put up a united front, but the years of hate, jealousy and competition from the women was too strong to stop. When one behaves the other one attacks and the cycle continues til the next detante.

        I forgave my MIL/SILs because I wanted to. They slandered me to their extended family who really liked me. RealHusbands aunts and cousins couldn’t understand why they were so hateful and even defended my honor much to the in-laws chagrin and their enjoyment. Whether your slammed to 3, 30 or 3million people it hurts. People you’ve never met “KNOW” things about you, true or false and keep telling others who know your partner. Your legend precedes you. The difference between the viewers and the HWs is the camera and the gossip.

        • Rebecca says:

          Teresa and Melissa got along just fine when she got together with Joey. They both said so. I think the vile Marco sisters constantly bashed Teresa out of jealousy. She got fed up and when the wool is removed from your eyes, you start to see what backstabbers they really are. I have yet to see a sincere moment out of a Marco yet on this show. Who wants to watch (or in Teresa’s case, live) that crap on tv??

      • PJ says:

        My opinion of the Joey/Melissa situation is that Joey and Melissa act as a team and know exactly what they are doing. Melissa may be manipulating like we saw the night of the fashion show where she is telling Joey what to say but he is a willing partner in this. It’s all the sadder because he is doing this to his family.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          ITA -by chosing fame over family Joey and Melissa all the while preaching it is all about family? Seriously messed up. We find faults and flaws in all the HWs – but a line gets drawn when you destroy a family.

      • Cartwheels says:

        I agree with this 100%. I have never liked Teresa and I despise her husband but I even have to admit that she didn’t want her family to be destroyed in national television, who would want that?
        Melissa and Joey came to this franchise with the explicit intention and promise to bring Teresa down, who does that? who promises to bring your own blood down?
        In that sense I place more responsibility on Joey than on Melissa, he should have put a stop to this and should have never allowed his own family and his poor parents to be dragged into the mud like this.
        Teresa signed for a show that was supposed to be about friends and light hearted fun, Melissa and Joey signed for a show to bring Teresa down. That is to me what makes them different, even though I have the feeling that I will never fully like Teresa, there is absolutely no way that I will ever like Melissa and Joey, nor Kathy and Richie.

        • Exit4 says:

          Definitely. And I agree with amber too…whether its 3 or 2 million-hurt is hurt. But at least when it’s within the family, it can be sugar coated. The worst stuff can be left out-and really you won’t know-you just have to take thier word for it! When it’s out there on tv (and lord knows the worst will be) its a double whammy! You can’t even wiggle out of it… And lie and deny you said it, it’s on tape! Lol. You can blame editing of course, but you can’t unsay it.

          At least your mom in law didn’t have to see you and your SILs angry faces haunting her as she checked out at Shop Rite! With horrible betrayal headlines or hear strangers whispering. Or God forbid walk up and give unsolicited advice! Can you imagine??? And given how involved Mel’s sisters and even her mom get….on twitter if course, it’s just a huge cluster you know what.

          Cartwheels, so agree that Joey could’ve stopped this. It is his family. But he wanted it too. I think that’s what may kill the parents the most. It’s one thing for the “putana” (and her family) to do it-Joey doing it is a major betrayal! His poor parents…….

          • Cartwheels says:

            All families have crap going on on any given day, families are not perfect, shit happens, but you can always forgive and forget, when it is plaster for eternity on a TV show, I imagive is 100 times worse to see past the pain and the humilliation.
            I wonder how long is it going to take for Joey to understand that this “TV adventure” has cost his parents many years of their life, but in the meantime Melissa is as close as her family as ever. She didn’t lose her family, Joey did.

        • Mene Seela says:

          I agree. Even if I hated my SIL (which I do not) I would never hold my family up to cruel public takedowns. It is just dirty and nasty.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            I am not sure I understand. Little Joe has mental problems. He is not right. Melissa runs that family. She has almost complete control. To say that he should do anything, does not make sense to me. I have said it before. Melissa’a husband is more like her familiar. She does not seem to care much for him and sometimes even seems to be afraid of him. JMHO.

    • melthehound says:

      Amber I have to disagree with your statement that ‘Trefans’ don’t see her faults. Nothing could be further from the truth, at least for me. I’ve had plenty of WTF is she doing or thinking moments while watching her. However, I really do see her SIL as a conniving bitch (and I don’t mean that in a kind way). What happened when little joe brought her around, what she said or did, I don’t know. I wasn’t there and I’d bet good money none of the rest of us were either.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        ITA that none of us were there, LOL but we all have opinions just like we all have _____. 🙂 It’s not that we can’t see the faults of the celebrities we like, it’s just that we either choose to ignore, forgive or embrace their foibles, be it Tre, MeGo or AngelinaJolie. I can’t stand KimZolciak for being a mistress who pathetically failed to get the married man, but love AngelinaJolie even though she broke up JenniferAnniston’s marriage. Love it when Brandi let’s people have it but don’t like it when she’s insulted and then acts fragile instead of kicking off too. Love it when NeNe goes in on her castmates in her THs but hate it when Tamra and CaroleRaz does it. Hypocritical… Yup. And I OWN IT as a BRAVOFan.

  25. AZGirl says:

    Good Afternoon Everyone! Late posting. Rainy and cool here in AZ. We went from a high of 82 yesterday to 60 and rainy.
    Jason’s response in the divorce seems standard to me. You both start asking for everything and then whittle down the demands. Unfortunately, this is going to be a drag out fight and Bryn is going to suffer for it.
    @Diva: Sounds like your interview went well yesterday. Good luck!

    Mr. AZGirl and I are coming up on 30 years of marriage. 35 on Valentines day of our first date. I think young people today are not realistic. Marriage takes hard work and mutual respect. I can’t stand it when women complain about their husbands to each other. It is disrespectful. If your husband is an ass he is your problem and should not be a topic of conversation at lunch.
    J & B should have waited after Bryn was born and lived together first before getting married IMHO.

    • Powell says:

      -Whistle- to Mr & Mrs AZGirl on 30/35 years. 🙂 Congratulations! I wholeheartedly agree that they should’ve lived together. I think it would’ve worked out better. And who knows they may still be together. IMO Bs money means power to Jason & he felt B had more power than he had.

      • AZGirl says:

        You are right about Jason feeling that money gave Bethenny more power in the relationship and I cannot help but think B may have used that for leverage. It is a tough call but it would be hard for any man to have that kind of marriage.

        • thedesigndiva2 says:


        • PJ says:

          I think my husband would be just fine with me having more money than he does. I don’t think Bethenny used it for leverage I think Jason was jealous and couldn’t get past it.

          • Powell says:

            I think so too PJ. What I don’t understand is that Jason knew what B was trying to do w/her career. He knew about her dreams for SG. Did he just think there wasn’t a possibilty of her eventually having the dream come true? She was looking diligently for a Spirits company. There wasn’t really anything quite like her ideas on the market.

            • Called A Princess... says:

              Jason was the golden child in his bio family and his mother still thinks the world of him. Bethenny did not see the gold. He had a hard time with that adjustment. In fact he could not adjust. He became resentful without regret. I understand why he would need to see his parents, a lot, it was a way to reestablish his golden stature. JMHO.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Bethenny was always focused, worked hard and took risks then her ship came in. Jason may work hard but he isn’t a creative person or a risk taker. Bethenny tried to get him to find whatever would make him happy but he didn’t. I saw her trying to make them a team and I don’t see her using anything for leverage now. Money does funny things to people.

          • trudie says:

            My husband would be fine with it too. It would give him more time to play golf!

          • KotSamuel says:

            Jason was not jealous. Bethenny is all about the money. Even when she got millions she still couldn’t separate work from family. Why in the world did she have to bring her people to work in their apartment? Why not rent office space for them and have a home feel like home. Jason, B and Bryn never had any privacy, never had time to be alone. Bethenny was always out chasing the next dollar. I blame her for the demise of their marriage. Relationship take work…you need to nurture them.

    • california35 says:

      wow! that is a long time 🙂 i like how you think about relationships, love, attention, etc BUT MUTUAL respect also 🙂

    • L.A. Chica says:

      Congrats, AZGirl! 35 years and still going strong! 🙂

      ITA about not bitching about your spouse to others.

    • california35 says:

      i hope that is just the intro of what they are asking for, like asking the most they can ask for and work themselves down to a realistic settlement. i wouldn’t think they really want to take their child away from the other 😦 AND she doesn’t need his $ or insurance, come on! 😛 it worries me that Bryn will end up with similar childhood as her in the going bak and forward between parents I KNOW that wont be the the same case, but i hope she doesn’t feel it like that. ALSO! why did HE stay in the house and not her!!???

      • Cartwheels says:

        She is still living in her house and so is he. The story about her moving into a millionare apartment was just another of the rumors started by ROL, she spend one night when the guy wasn’t there.
        The bigger question is going to be if Jason can afford to live in that apartment, I am sure the mortgage payments are really high, as well as taxes and maintenance.

    • Cartwheels says:

      That is what Bethenny wanted, she said that she wanted to wait until Bryn was born and then plan the wedding, but Jason didn’t want to wait and prefer to do it before the baby was born.
      I have the feeling that if they would have waited, they might have never married.

      • BB says:

        I think if they had waited, they would have never married and would have separated long before now. JMO.

      • PJ says:

        Maybe he realized she wouldn’t marry him if they waited.

        • BB says:

          She probably woudn’t have. I think she has commitment problems big time.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            Bethenny does not have a model of a healthy loving relationship. I am not sure that she is really looking for one. She is very single minded. I think she might wish for things but does not really know the human work that goes into a real relationship. JMHO.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Too bad Bethenny bowed to the pressure of marriage before Bryn was born. Marriage and children are two priority changing events in a couple’s life together. Neither were prepared for either event.

        • chismosa says:

          I can’t blame Jason as the one “pressuring” her to marry. I mean B had to have really wanted to do it, she DOES seem to be the type to do what she wants and follow through. I’m not going to place blame on them marrying when they did squarely on Jason 😒

  26. AZGirl says:

    Well I just finished Tom C’s blog on the fried chicken mess. He posted his fried chicken recipe and insist that you take the skin off the chicken. I have never ever heard of taking the skin off the chicken. The rest of the recipe is standard stuff. Soak in buttermilk overnight, season and dredge in flour. Anyone’s take on the skin issue? Love some feedback.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      The only time I heard of taking the skin off the chicken is to reduce the calories from fat. But IMO if you are going to coat it in buttermilk, bread it and deep fry it then you may aswell go for broke.

    • azgirl…love me some skin on my chickin….but..to eat heart healthy I remove it..I also now make oven baked fried chicken and it’s AWESOME.. tastes and crunchies like real OIL fried chickin….. and I also have been seasoning my egg wash…and I use ONLY panko bread crumbs…yums…….

      • L.A. Chica says:

        Ooh! Recipe, pretty please? That sounds delicious and I love fried chicken but haven’t made it in such a long time because it’s not as healthy as I’m trying to be.

    • vilzvet says:

      I know the skin is bad for you but it really makes the chicken flavorful. Plus I don’t see how the coating would stick to the chicken without it.

    • Rebecca says:

      Skin on. Cornstarch sprinkled in the oil. This makes French fries crispy too.

      • L.A. Chica says:

        Just a light sprinkle? I’ve never heard of doing that before.

        Hey, have you tried frying with rice bran oil? I’ve only been using olive oil for all my cooking but it can’t take high heat, so no frying for me. But rice bran oil has a very high flash point so it’s perfect for frying and it’s supposed to be much healthier than other high heat oils.

        I stopped using canola because it’s hard to find it unrefined and cold pressed, and refined canola was leaving an awful plastic-like film on my cookware. I certainly didn’t want that film left inside me, either! 😯

        • Rebecca says:

          I also microwave my cut potatoes after tossing them with oil. I think it was Cook’s Illustrated where I read this, and I tend to try out everything from that magazine.

  27. shamrockblonde says:

    January 19 was my 39th wedding anniv – and we met on a blind date – I thought he was much too quiet and wondered if we would ever go out again – we did – at the time, my Mom taught Irish step dancing in our basement – never charged a penny – we performed all over Long Island at Knights of Columbus events and such – I didn’t tell him because I thought he would think it lame, but finally when I did tell him, he came to every single performance – I think that was when I started falling in love with him – marriage is hard work – it won’t work if you don’t work at it – and every time I’ve been absolutely furious with him – and I have – I’ve loved him even a little more – and that little bit is what makes the difference every time – we balance each other, he and I – and with all that we have been through, he never once let me face anything alone, nor I him – next to my Dad, he is the finest man I have ever known –

    • L.A. Chica says:

      Congratulations to you and Mr. Shamrockblonde on 39 years! That’s a beautiful story. Your husband sounds wonderful; I feel the same way about mine. 😀

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Congratulations ShamrockBlonde! May you experience many more years with your wonderful husband. This story is proof positive that a blind date can lead you to the greatest love.

    • AZGirl says:

      That is so great ShamrockBlonde! All my grandparents were from Ireland and many of my cousins did Irish step dancing. Mr. AZGirl is very quiet also. They say “opposites attract”

      • shamrockblonde says:

        thank you! both of my parents were born in Ireland, but they met here in the States – my Dad saw my Mom going into a company dance, so he and his brothers crashed it so that he could dance with her – and yes, opposites do attract!! –

        • BB says:

          Congratulations Shamrock and AZGirl. This July it will be 40 YEARS for me and my hubs. Anyone who says you shouldn’t/don’t have to work at a marriage is fooling themselves. It’s not easy, but it’s way worth it.

          • TexasTart says:

            Congratulations, BB, AZGirl, Shamrock, Diva….and many others I’m sure who know how much compromise it takes! 30 years that I’ve been with Mr. T and we have operated a small business most of this time – which considerably adds to the challenge – but no one has strangled the other yet. 😉

            • BB says:

              I think AZGirl works alongside her husband too. We carpooled together for years and that was enough togetherness for me. Lol.

              • AZGirl says:

                Yep we are a working couple….he tends to think I get in a little “late” and leave a little “early” but I am there and the work is done. If I need to stay late of course that is a priority.

            • L.A. Chica says:

              Yes, congrats to BB and all! 😀

              • WOW! All you ladies with your long term hubbies are so inspirational!!! And the one thing all of you have said in your stories…..is that marriage takes work and compromise….and I think that is exactly what is lacking in relationships these days. The younger generations see it as, “if it doesn’t work no need to fix it just move on”. Very different than our generation…and sad too, because I think they are missing out on something wonderful.

                Spontaneous spark relationships are fun, but the flash burns out quickly. It is the long term with work ones that ground you in life and mean so much more.

                Congrats to all of you!!

          • AZGirl says:

            Well done BB! Obviously you and the hubs are doing it right.

    • trudie says:

      I agree that marriage is hard work. Growing up, we never saw my parents argue. When I got married and had arguments with my husband, I thought our marriage was doomed. I couldn’t understand what was wrong with us. I confessed my fears to my Dad who laughed and said that nothing was wrong; he and my mom did not believe in arguing in front of us, but they did argue in private. In retrospect, I don’t think that was a good idea. Obviously, it did not give me a realistic view of the way a marriage operates.

      My husband and I have had our share of arguments, some in front of the kids. Not knock down arguments, but arguments. If the kids commented on it, I told them that they argue amongst themselves, and Daddy and I do too. Doesn’t mean we don’t love each other. They have seen us argue and they have seen us apologize and make up. As I tell them all the time, marriage is not a Disney movie – it isn’t all robins and rainbows.

      We are going on 31 years of marriage, and although we have had our ups and downs, I wouldn’t trade him in.

      • BB says:

        My parents argued in front of me and we argued in front of my kids. They weren’t permanently scarred by it. To act like everything is perfect doesn’t present a realistic view of what marriage is all about. Of course, they also saw the love we have for each other and the good times we share too.

    • Cartwheels says:

      Love, love , love your love story. It always makes me happy when somebody meets her/his other half. not every one is that lucky so consider yourself fortunate and blessed.

  28. Iowagirl says:

    Wow, jealous shamrock.

  29. Cartwheels says:

    I might be way off base on this one but I have thought about this for a while.
    Among many,many other things I believe that Bethenny’s miscarriage and her inability to have more children was a factor in the demise of their marriage.
    Bethenny in interviews about this topic said that they were both devastated, but then when asked she mentioned that Jason was “grieving in his own way”, she has also said that Jason wanted to have at least another baby, also mentioned that Jason needed to realize that her age would be a factor about having more babies.
    Bethenny also in her tweets has mentioned having endometriosis, which I am not 100% sure but I think it makes getting pregnant difficult.
    So I am thinking that if after Bethenny had the miscarriage, Jason wasn’t as supportive as he should had been or maybe made some comments about her age and having more babies, that could have created another very tense situation. I remember Bethenny is some interview when asked about having another baby (after the miscarriage happened) say that Jason needed to come to terms with the fact that her age would complicate things and if wanted to have a lot of babies, then he might have thought about marrying somebody younger.
    As I said, it might be one of many more things but I am positive that her miscarriage had something to do with the divorce and having more babies was a very contencious point between them.

    • Contessa says:

      Cartwheels, excellent observation. The miscarriage and desire for more children is another part of why people divorce as each partner has different needs, wants, demands. Apparently Bethenny can get pregnant, but a miscarriage is very devastating and like you said Jason might want more children. This children issue along with all the other issues probably destroyed this marriage. I truly think they didn’t really know each other as much as they wanted to believe they did.

    • L.A. Chica says:

      Those are very good points, you might be right about the effect the miscarriage and the reality of Bethenny’s age relative to childbearing possibilities has had on their marriage. And yes, endometriosis can definitely be an obstacle.

    • Mene Seela says:

      Yep – I think this was a huge factor. But I think the angle Jason may have played was claiming that Bethenny’s insane schedule was more to blame than her age.

      So perhaps Jason wanted Betehnny to cancel her contractual obligations (tv show!) so she could “concentrate” on having another baby for him. I would expect that Bethenny would absolutely refuse to do that for many reasons.

      If that was the case I would agree that her ridiculous schedule may be one of the main issues, but she is all about grabbing the gold ring NOW after all the years of her working towards it. If she quit she would hate Jason, especially if the baby did not appear.

      Neither and both of them are to blame.

      • L.A. Chica says:


      • Cartwheels says:

        I had a crazy work schedule when I was pregnant, after all I was divorcing so I had to work, work , work all the time. My baby was born super healthy after all. If it is meant to be it will be my mother used to say.
        I think that a busy work schedule could have been the argument Jason used to throw his passive aggresive darts at Bethenny even more, but I am sure that Bethenny was devastated and might not have appreciated his digs at that particular moment.
        There is nothing more frustrating than try to get pregnant and not being able to carry the baby to term, so I certainly can understand how Jason making smart ass remarks about the issue would have been too hurtful for Bethenny to put up with.
        Now it is all solved, as soon as they get divorced, Jason wille be able to find a 20 something girl who will be perfectly capable to give him 2-3 more kids and everybody will be happy.

        • Mene Seela says:

          Pregnant and divorcing? Are you kidding me?! That is awful. I’m glad you and baby made it through OK.

          • Cartwheels says:

            Last trimester. It was awful as I had to work such long hours thinking about the time I would have to take off when the baby was born and with no income. This is just an example that when the baby is healthy not even a busy schedule can interfere.
            Bethenny already had a difficult pregnancy with Bryn (remember that she told Alex about having to be on best rest) but Bethenny when she got pregnant the second time was not filming reality TV yet so I am sure her schedule was not that hectic, just wasn’t meant to be.

            • Mene Seela says:

              Well I am glad you are OK. That sounds super stressful.

              Re; Jason…. I can see him already being upset by Bethenny’s attention to her business and career (not jealous of the $ so much). So using her baby making as an excuse to pry her away from her “other” interests and obligations would fit his personality and cause fatal conflict in that relationship. Just my opinion.

  30. Mene Seela says:

    The title of this article is “Adrienne Maloof Certainly Doesn’t Have A Type! Before Sean Stewart, She Dated L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa!”

    I beg to differ. She prefers sleazy.


  31. L.A. Chica says:

    Sleazy is right. But what does that say about Paul?

  32. L.A. Chica says:

    Off topic: Does anyone have a cure for hot flashes? I’m going crazy here.

    • Exit4 says:

      Move to NJ-it’s 20 degrees.
      Some time outside will cure that. 🙂

      • L.A. Chica says:

        LOL! I have family in NJ, maybe it’s time for a visit.

        I was in NYC a few weeks ago and the cold felt refreshing. But inside the hotel I still kept waking up in the middle of the night. 😦

    • LavaLady says:

      me too, wake up at night, every night help us!

      • iceNfire says:

        I keep my blow dryer nearby both for warmth and to cool down If there is a cure plz let me know 🙂

        • L.A. Chica says:

          That’s a good idea!

          • iceNfire says:

            Yes – I keep it next to my bed at night so when I wake during a flash it’s within reach. A bartender I used to work with would stand inside the walk-in fridge, I thot it was funny at the time but now that it’s my turn I don’t find it funny at all. My sisters hot flashes lasted 6 years……dammit all to hell

    • Nancy says:

      Hi LA Chica,
      I asked my husband how he treats his female patients with this complaint.
      He puts them on a very low dose of HRT for a short duration.

      I was only 38 when I went through menopause and it was “Torture”.
      I couldn’t take my clothes off fast enough. I refused HRT at the time but
      looking back I should have given them a try.

      • BB says:

        Low dose HRT worked for me. I was a basket case and don’t know what I would have done without it.

        • Nancy says:

          I should have taken them. Big mistake. I would have to change the sheets in the middle
          of the night as they were soaked.

        • AZGirl says:

          Even with my mother’s history of breast cancer LOW dose HRT has save my life. I was a mess. Weaning off now and probably be off this spring after 5 years.

      • L.A. Chica says:

        Unfortunately HRT is off the table for me. I’m a breast cancer survivor and mine was hormone receptor positive. The hot flashes are definitively torturous. And between menopause and my anti-cancer medication, my memory has suffered. Then I read that menopause symptoms can last for years. YEARS! Ugh.

        • BB says:

          You poor thing. Maybe there is some type of natural cure out there that will help you. I’m sure there may be some posters that have used natural remedies that helped. I hope so.

        • Nancy says:

          You poor thing. I can’t remember how long my lasted. What about herbal supplements?

        • JumpTheShark says:

          No HRT for this “DES duaghter”, so I relied on deep breathing, which helped (looks funny though!)

      • L.A. Chica says:

        Thank you for asking your husband, Nancy! I really appreciate it. 🙂

        • Nancy says:

          My pleasure.

          • LavaLady says:

            L.A. Chica – I was at my ob/gyn this week for a yearly check up. I spoke to him about the hot flashes and wakekfullness. He recommended taking activella once a day for 6 months.

        • AZGirl says:

          Ask your OBGYN for a homeopathic therapist who specializes in menopause remedies. There are some women who swear that they work and it is all herbal. I know there are 2 excellent homeopathic doctors in Scottsdale, AZ so LA must have some in practice.

          • L.A. Chica says:

            Along those lines, there’s a doctor nearby who specializes in Chinese medicine. He’ll coordinate with your regular Western MD, too, especially if there are certain conditions involved (like cancer). Thank you for provoking my memory, AZGirl, I’d forgotten about him and should see him!

            As for herbal remedies, I’m looking into that. Tried Black Cohosh but that didn’t work for me, then I found out that it’s contraindicated if you’re taking tamoxifen, though the interaction is mild.

            I did come across an article that said that women in Japan who eat a traditional Japanese diet don’t suffer the symptoms of menopause the way we Westerners do. They eat vegetables, fish, rice, fermented soy and some fruits, and not much in the way of land animals. Not sure about chicken, I need to find that article again. I’m thinking sweets are enjoyed minimally, too.

    • TexasTart says:

      Help me too! I’ve done my time and want this to go away!!! 😡

    • BB says:

      I took harmone therapy from my doctor, but a lot of women don’t want to do it. It worked, though.

    • AZGirl says:

      See my reply below. HRT is now offered in VERY LOW DOSE and you will feel 100 percent better.

    • JustDee says:

      I used herbs, never went to the doctor.

    • jillz68 says:

      I am ALMOST there but haven’t totally experienced it. I do deal with sweaty nights occasionally due to MS and I know there are some items out there to help with that. Things like cooling vests. Check them out. Not sure how comfy they are but might help. I have also heard of cooling pillows. Jillz

  33. VV says:

    Over at TMZ site comments area about the divorce, Bethenny is NOT getting any love…

    • VV says:

      Interestingly enough is the fact, she has ZERO negative Tweet going her way. Gotta love those Twitter Filters!

      • iceNfire says:

        While each circumstance is different I strongly believe that the mother should get primary custody. My sister had primary custody and her ex had visitation when ever he wanted. At first he would stop by everyday after work but as time passed he stopped visiting altogether….his loss but the kids always had a stable home. The idea of kids having to divide their time between 2 homes just seems stressful to me.

        • Cartwheels says:

          Ditto, like you say, his lost.

          I agree. I also can’t stop thinking that Bryn will be Bethenny’s only child while Jason most likely will have another children. I know it has no bearing on this case but I hope that they can work something out that will make both of them happy. As long as they are both happy, Bryn will be happy.

  34. rabblerouser2010R says:

    For those who are following the Bulldog aka Byran VS the Marco twitter drama…it has taken an even uglier turn…

    He just tweeted this
    Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj

    So I get the phone call today that she says she’s not worried about me making it on the show because my tumor is back and i will be dead.

    • Cartwheels says:

      OMG, what?
      Now I know why I don’t have a twitter acount, some of these poeple can be nasty and disgusting, who told him that, one of the Marco’s followers?

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        IDK, it’s very elusive.
        He could be saying that Melissa called him and said it
        or someone like one of her sisters did…
        or that someone called him claiming that that’s what Melissa is saying.

    • VV says:

      I saw he replied to your tweet but he lied. He’s got the twitter diarrhea again.
      The latest…
      “I might have to appear just cause I know now that it’s killing them. pow👊😜”

      • melthehound says:

        So the real question becomes, who dug this guy out of the woodwork? I’ve been ready for a few days now to call bullshit on this entire ‘episode’.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          I am thinking it was that Peter the Greek guy since I have seen him on his timeline. I haven’t been following it that closely and mainly just am updated through her…but I sent butch a tweet today that pretty much said put up or shut up.

          • melthehound says:

            My guess is he won’t put up until Lights Camera Action. You all know I don’t mess with Twitter so I rely on those of you who do to bring the goings on here to the blog. I’m thinking though if this guy had anything to say, he would have said it. He’s holding out for paycheck. Now, that said, whatever he has to say, may very well be true. That or, like many of these other twitter feuds, during filming and pre-release of the season, it may be total bullshit, about nothing. All I can think of at this point is this has people talking about RHONJ and specifically AutoTune Marco, 4 months before the show will even air. I’m also not discounting the fact that Martyr Marco is working on another shitty iTunes song. None of this ‘drama’ passes the smell test with me.

        • VV says:

          Mel, Twitter is too crazy. If I try to track how it started, I am going to get pulled in so many different directions. Twitter is a crazy, nasty world…….I only lurk for my own sanity.

        • lizzle says:

          I think a fan who likes researching found him or the famewhorga blog found him. One or the other… but famewhorga wrote about him, which (i think) brought him way out into the light with all the peeps in blog world. I saw him mention that he is on twitter to communicate and follow boxers and mma fighters. He has been dealing with a brain tumor for a while and it is back. Twitter can be toxic (RHONJ), but he is receiving a lot of prayers and support on twitter in his fight against his brain tumor.

          • melthehound says:

            It just seems like whatever this guy was doing a couple weeks ago, someone chose to ‘out’ him as Autotune’s ex BF. Most people would normally say, ‘who cares?’ but Autotune’s flying monkey sisters have been at this guy, it seems, to quiet whatever it is he supposedly knows about her. I just can’t get past all of her scripted BS (whether scripted by her, Tarzan, or Bravo) on the show to believe that her sticky paws aren’t all over this.

            • lizzle says:

              LOL @ “sticky paws” I sense that there is more scriptiness with NJ than any franchise and I feel like it might be because they can’t just do what the producers ask of them… they have to add in their own twists and turns. IMO, they aren’t that smart.

        • AZGirl says:

          Jeff I am with you on this. Too much twitter all at once and close to when NJ new season.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        Has he even been asked?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      He likely has no aspirations for being on the show. Melissa’s twitter assassins may have actually poked the wrong bear this time.

  35. PJ says:

    OK where is Brandi’s blog?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Guessing it is being edited.

      • iceNfire says:

        Oh, I haven’t even checked Bravo site after reading Kyle’s blog. She is basically claiming to be confused now….not buying that one either. She just doesn’t want to put her foot in her mouth again.

        • VV says:

          Read Charo’s Press Release. She thanks Faye, Camille, Kyle, Kim and Mo-mo for their support.

          Hmmmm, my mind starts to turn by her throwing the name Camille in there with the others.

  36. iceNfire says:

    I’ve been watching RHOV for the first time. What a breath of fresh air! I wouldn’t mind seeing RHONJ canceled.

  37. VV says:

    USweekly is he magazine Charo claimed at Reunion S2 that Lisa was selling stories to… Kyle admited that she was a good friend and knew the editor at dinner with the Russell’s. Since Kyle and the Local Realtor Mo are such good friends of Charo. I’m sure all sources are from Charo……………………………………………………………….and the cook

  38. iceNfire says:

    “You’re a cook not a chef….You don’t work in a restaurant”
    by kkb – Scary Island

  39. VV says:

    Some of Bethenny’s tweets lately:

    3 days ago
    I love @PhaedraParks but a workout video can totally cost 100k & 10% is a totally fair commission to Kenya.

    Only on @Bravotv is there a donkey vs stallion booty controversy. This is just what I need right now for entertainment.

    It’s despicable that Kenya would steal @PhaedraParks idea. It’s also dumb business bc they’re splitting the same audience. @BMWN_86

    This weather in New York is what separates the men from the boys.
    Sent 14 hours ago
    From Twitter for iPhone

  40. VV says:

    The Local Realtor’s Mom. Tweeted.

    ““Be as careful of the books you read, as of the company you keep; for your habits and character will be as much”

    Dr Heart does not follow Lisa or Brandi on Twitter but follows Kyle, Taylor, Adrienne, Camille even PamDana. Mommy supports her so much so that she doesn’t follow Kim either perhaps because Kim dislikes Mo-mo.

  41. iceNfire says:

    Well I almost made it thru 1 whole month without screwing up my new laptop. Decided to play with the settings today. Bad Idea. Wish I had finished season 1 of RHOV before I started tinkering but oh well….I’ll try to fix it again tomorrow, it would be much easier if I asked kid for help but I Am Determined Dammit!
    Sweet Dreams to all…..Tweet Dreams to VV 😛

  42. L.A. Chica says:

    Just went over to Bravo to check out Adrienne’s blog. I think these viewer comments are noteworthy:

    I am not a Taylor fan, but you just made it sound like what Camille said about Kennedy’s father had no effect on her. I got news for you… your thing was not something to sue over. Hers changed a little girls life forever (no matter how you feel about her father).

    Hai Adrienne!
    Your Number one Fan here #1, I just talked to my attorney friend and he suggested if you are suing someone its not wise or will help your case by calling Brandi a bitch, liar, drug-user, sleep-til-3:00-unfit-mother. The judge might say it was you who committed character assassination.
    Yer welcome!

    If you live honestly, then you don’t have these skeletons that can be dragged out of the closet. People don’t like to be roped into helping you to perpetuate lies and manage your public identity. Take a note from Camille on this one — honest, vulnerable and always growing.

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