Manzos Moving to Hoboken and Other Gossip by NoMoreDrama
I suppose the Manzo boys needed someone to cook for them now that Greggy Bennett has moved to San Francisco. The New Jersey Journal is reporting that Mama Caroline and her long suffering husband Al Manzo have purchased an upscale apartment in Hoboken to be closer to their boys. No news on what they’ve done with daughter Lauren Manzo. Perhaps she’s being pushed out of the nest in order to get her to grow up. According to this article, they are splitting their time between Franklin Lakes and Hoboken. I suppose we’ll get to see this move on the show when it airs in April/May.
Oh goodness, Jill Zarin, former (cough) star of Real Housewives of New York is just as delusional as ever. In this interview with Fox News Latino, Carlos Anaya, Carlos Mayorga, Jill starts of normal, but then tells a big fib. Around half way in she talks about the “fateful” dinner where she and husband Bobby
staged had a dinner conversation in a public restaurant where he encouraged her not to return to the show. She goes as far as to say that Bobby told her “you’re done. You did great and it’s time to move on, my love.” Perhaps Bobby did say that, but she left out the part where she flip flopped like a fish between saying she was done and saying she was waiting for a contract – and she didn’t even mention the part where she was publicly fired. much less any hint of shamelessly trying to get back on the show ever since. She does talk a lot about how the show changed when they were acting up for the camera (ya think?) and that if you go on the show to do branding of a product, jump in and do it well. She mentions Cindy Who? as an example of this – skipping right over the queen of branding and her former BFF Bethenny Frankel. You can see the video here.
Uh Oh – Look Who’s hanging Out Together. I guess Adrienne doesn’t have any more houses to sell.
Meanwhile, the situation between Walter and Ms. Kenya Moore continues. This time Kenya took a swipe at Walter on twitter: “Guess who contacted every media outlet begging them to interview him. Ho sit down! Nobody cares about your thirsty fame whoring azz.” I think we all know who she is talking about.
And want to know what Andy Cohen really thinks about the ladies skipping out on his reunions? First Jacqueline Laurita, had a breakdown and missed the New Jersey Season Three reunion. Then special accommodations were made for Kim Richards when she was fresh out of rehab. Finally Adrienne Maloof skipped her turn in the hot seat. Here’s a rare exchange on twitter between Andy and twitter follower, where Andy expresses some frustration.
“Mob Wives” By Detox
This week, Big Ang has a Christmas Party that turns out to be a little less merry than she expected. Karen makes a surprise trip to Arizona to finally confront Dave, and Ramona goes with her for moral support. Renee takes Drita, Ang and Love on the road trip from Hell to look at attack dogs because she wants to buy one to further secure her home. Karen finds out that she has been paying for the most lavish and expensive dog house EVER for her dog, Ozzy. Karen visits with her daughter, Karina, who has turned into quite a sassy little young lady (that needs some serious straightening out NOW before she goes down the wrong path, if you ask me). Drita is terrified of the attack dogs. Love thinks the attack dogs are just adorable. Big Ang screams and looks like she would rather be sticking needles in her eyes than watching these attack dogs. And Renee looks like the attack dogs make her want to relapse. Karen finally confronts Dave, and he acts totally nonchalant and like Karen is crazy and behaving in an utterly ridiculous manner for NO reason at all. Ramona looks like she wants to take off her engagement ring and marry Dave instead. Karen looks like she wants to slap Ramona for turning into Dave’s biggest fan “overnight.” Drita takes Carla with her to check out the progress on the renovation of the building where she is going to set up her new makeup store. Karen gives Ramona a different kind of tour of her Arizona home town. Carla turns 35 for the 11th time. And Karen’s brother Gerard tells her about a legal loophole that could possibly allow her father to walk out of prison MUCH earlier than they expected.
Alright, you Mob Wives’ guys and dolls, let’s get started!
Big Ang’s Not-So-Merry Christmas Party
Big Ang is at her house putting the finishing touches on everything for her Christmas Party with the girls. She interviews that “Everything’s going to be jolly, jolly, jolly!” at her Christmas Party (Big Ang is so positive, and sometimes downright delusional. I love her anyway.).
Drita is the first to arrive, and she compliments Ang on her Christmas tree and helps Ang finish getting ready for her guests. While they are doing that, Big Ang tells Drita that Ramona got engaged to Joe. Drita’s eyes widen in surprise at this news. Big Ang tells Drita that it’s a “touchy subject” and not to bring it up. Drita interviews that, as far as she knows, Ramona’s fiance’ is looking at some serious prison time, and she does not want Ramona to go through that, “and I used to HATE that mother*cker!!”
Karen arrives wearing a Santa hat and cheerfully greets Big Ang and Drita. Ramona arrives shortly after Karen.
Big Ang tells them that Love is not going to be able to make the party because she has the flu. Drita interviews that this might be a good thing, and it might be “meant to be” that Carla and Love not meet each other right now. She says she is glad, considering Love and Carla’s issues.
Big Ang then tells the women that Renee will not be attending the party either because she does not feel like she can be around Carla right now. The other women express disappointment about the fact that Renee will not be there. Drita then asks Karen and Ramona when they last saw Carla. Both of them say they have not seen Carla in “forever.” Karen interviews that Carla is just “meh” to her at this point. She says she always tolerated Carla because Carla was Renee’s friend. Now that they are no longer friends, she really does not have any use for Carla and is o.k. with never being around her at all…EVER.
Karen tells Big Ang that she and Ramona are going to have to leave the party early because they are flying out to Arizona in the morning.
The women then begin to all have a good time talking, laughing and eating. Drita interviews that the fact that she is laughing and having a good time with Ramona is “weird.” Ramona jokes that knives should NOT be on the table (referencing Carla’s pointing a butter knife at Renee in a menacing manner at Big Ang’s brunch), and everybody laughs.
Speak of the Devil, and she shall appear. Carla finally arrives, very late. When she walks in, she is greeted warmly by Big Ang and Drita and basically ignored by Karen and Ramona. Carla notices that Renee is not there, and she interviews that she is happy that Renee is not at the party because she “don’t wanna deal with her b*llsh*t!” A camera pans toward Big Ang slowly and subtly gathering and removing all knives from the table after Carla arrives (This is kind of funny to me).
Carla takes her seat and tells Ang she will have some white wine. Once Carla sits down, it’s basically *Crickets* (as in no one is saying ANYTHING). Carla interviews that the tension in the house “is so thick, and nobody’s talking.” Drita interviews that things are very awkward.
Finally, Karen speaks, and she tells Carla she is going to break the ice with her. She then tells Carla that Renee did not come to the party because of her. After that, she tells Carla that she heard what Carla said and what she did with the knife to Renee at Big Ang’s brunch, and she did NOT like it.
Ramona jumps in and also tells Carla that she did not like what she heard about Carla’s behavior toward Renee at the brunch either. She tells Carla that she should have been more sympathetic to the fact that Renee has been dealing with addiction. And she tells her that she also, like Karen, cannot believe that Ramona had the audacity to pull out and menacingly point a knife in Renee’s direction.
Carla, incredulous, says, “You guys act like I pulled out a damned MACHETE!! It was a BUTTER knife, for God’s sake!!” (Carla DOES have a point. I mean, how could she really hurt Renee with a butter knife? Also, it’s not like Carla lunged at Renee with the knife over the table. All she did was wave the knife around while she was arguing with Renee. Yes, this was inappropriate, but NO, it was not dangerous). With regard to Karen and Ramona “double-teaming” her, Carla interviews, “Once Hekyll goes off, here comes Jekyll to go off too.” Big Ang interviews that Karen and Ramona were NOT at the brunch. So, it does not have anything to do with them (I agree. I know they support and are loyal to Renee; however, all they are going on is what Renee told them. They did not actually witness anything. I think they are just going off on Carla because they cannot stand her. Period. Carla IS hard to stand, but I still think Karen and Ramona are wrong right now.).
Ramona tells Carla that addiction is a serious issue for Renee, and Carla should have understood and been more sympathetic about that instead of taunting Renee for it.
Carla tells the group that she has been “through this with Renee a 1000 times!” She interviews that she is SICK of Renee and says, “I don’t even care about her anymore.”
Either Ramona or Karen (or both) bring up the fact that Carla pointed a butter knife at Renee and refused to put it down even though Renee asked her more than once to do so. Carla screams, “Oh my God!! It was a BUTTER knife for God’s sake!!” (Carla does have a point. I mean, unless she lunged at Renee and slapped or poked her with the better knife with the intent to hurt her, I think things are being blown a BIT out of proportion. And, again, I do not even LIKE Carla, but I MUST be fair).
Ramona then directly addresses Drita who, up until this point, has been staying out of it with a very STRAINED look on her face. She asks Drita what SHE would have done if she were in Renee’s position, and Carla had pointed a butter knife at her in a menacing way and refused to put it down even after Renee asked her to do so more than one time. Drita begrudgingly but FIRMLY says, “If someone pointed a knife at me, I’d shove it down their fuckin’ THROAT!!” She cannot manage to look Carla in the eye when she says this, however (I think it is because she is loyal to Carla, and she hates saying that her friend was wrong. However, she feels like she has to be honest about what she really thinks. I can understand her conflicted feelings).
Carla kind of opens her mouth and looks a little stunned at being attacked and told she was wrong by even Drita, her closest friend in this group. Ramona interviews that when Drita said this, she thought, “Damn, Bitch! I LOVE you right now!” Drita interviews that she is trying her hardest not to take sides. Despite this, she does finally look Carla in the face and tells her that she used Renee’s weakness of addiction against her, and it wasn’t cool (I agree. That’s dirty fighting, in my opinion).
All of the women then try to encourage Carla to talk to Renee one-on-one and apologize. They mention how Renee just got out of rehab, which was a very brave thing to do. They advise Carla that maybe she can talk to Renee and be supportive.
Carla looks like she would rather stick needles in her eyes. She then says, “Maybe I gave her some tough love, and THAT’s what made her decide to get help!!” (OMG!! I just CAN’T with this woman!! Can we say “NARCISSIST”? So, now SHE is the reason Renee went to rehab. Ummm….o.k., Carla, whatever you say, you a*shole!!).
Everybody’s eyes widen in disbelief when Carla has the nerve to SERIOUSLY say this. Karen interviews and says that Carla is delusional (I agree). She says that Carla has “NO Soul and NO loyalty. I have NO time for Carla!”
Karen and Ramona cut out of the party early so they can get ready for their early-morning flight to Arizona the next day.
Carla interviews and says that she is tired of being attacked (I can get that. I still don’t like Carla, though, and I admittedly enjoy when she is getting her a*s handed to her. I usually do when I see this happening to evil people. *Shrug*).
Ramona and Karen Fly Out To Arizona To Surprise And Confront Dave
In a voice over shown while Karen and Ramona walk through an airport, Karen says that she is making a surprise visit to Arizona, and Ramona is joining her for moral support. Once they land and are riding in a vehicle to Karen’s Arizona home, they talk.
Ramona says she can’t wait for Karen to show her around Arizona. Karen says she has to handle her “situation” with Dave before they do anything else. They discuss how her showing up unannounced might really upset Dave. Ramona interviews that “this is Karen’s big opportunity to set Dave and ‘Becky Puttana’ straight!” (I love the way Ramona just blindly supports Karen at times. She has never even met Dave’s new girlfriend, Rebecca, and she knows basically NOTHING about her. But, in full support of her friend Karen, she has decided that the woman is a “puttana” and christened her, “Becky Puttana.” My girlfriends would do the same thing, and I would do the same thing for them).
Ramona continues to chatter about all of the possibilities Karen could be forced to confront when she enters her home unexpectedly, and Karen tells Ramona that Ramona is getting on her nerves (She’s probably got crazy anxiety not knowing what kind of situation she is going to face when she unexpectedly walks in on Dave).
Karen says she wants to meet Dave’s new girlfriend since she is spending time with not only Dave, but also their daughter. Ramona tells Karen that she is there to make sure that Karen walks into her house with the right frame of mind. Karen interviews that she is sick of the guessing games. She says, “It’s time for me to figure out exactly what is going on.”
Renee Has Planned A Surprise Road Trip
Renee interviews that she wants to get some of the girls together. So she invited them to take a road trip with her. She did not tell them where they would be going, though. Eventually, Big Ang, Love and Drita all arrive and congregate in Renee’s kitchen.
Renee tells them that she has installed an alarm system in her home, and she has even moved from sleeping on the couch downstairs all the way to her own bedroom upstairs. She pats herself on the back for having overcome enough of her fear and paranoia to at least do that. The women join her in the back-patting.
Renee then tells them that, for the road trip, she got a driver who will be taking them all with her so she can buy an “attack dog.” The women look a little disappointed. Love interviews, “I don’t need an attack dog because I’M a f*ckin’ attack dog!” Drita interviews that Renee is the LAST person who should have an attack dog because of her tendency to SCREAM everything ALL THE TIME. She notes that Renee SCREAMS when she’s simply calling out to order a pizza. She says she thinks this will seriously confuse this attack dog. According to Drita, “The dog will be so anxious all the time, he will need to take Xanax!!” (This made me laugh out loud. Drita can be funny at times.).
Ozzy And Karen
Karen and Ramona finally arrive at Karen’s Arizona home. As soon as Karen opens the door, she is greeted by this HUGE, but very affectionate dog. It turns out that the dog’s name is Ozzy, and he looks like he really misses Karen. She takes a little time to pet him and love on him a bit, which he seems like he enjoys. Ramona tells Karen that she can’t believe how fat her dog is, and Karen says she can’t believe how fat he’s gotten either. She interviews that, normally at this time, Dave should be home from work and taking care of her dog and things around her house. But Dave is nowhere to be seen.
Karen shows Ramona all around her Arizona home. While they are doing this, Karen makes mention of the fact that she does not see any of Dave’s things anywhere. She says it’s like he does not even live there. Ramona suggests that they look all around to see if they can find “signs of another woman being or living there.” They do, but they find NOTHING. Karen interviews and says that the fact that it looks like NONE of Dave’s things are in her house is very strange.
Once they finish their walk-through and go back to relax in the living room, Ramona tells Karen that the house does not even feel like a “home.” She says it feels “like a cold witness protection home with only an obese dog living in it.”
Karen interviews and says, “Now, Dave is playing me!! I’m paying bills in this motherf*cker, and he doesn’t even LIVE there!!” (I’d be pissed too. I mean, she could have put some renters in there and got them to pay her mortgage).
The Road Trip From Hell
Renee, Big Ang, Drita and Love are all in Renee’s hired vehicle going on the road trip. It turns out that the dog kennel Renee wants to visit to buy an attack dog is located all the way in Connecticut. Drita interviews that if she knew that this place was so far away, and the drive was going to be so long, she would not have gone. She looks miserable as she sits in the vehicle. Love interviews that Renee “failed to mention that we were doing to be driving 3 ½ HOURS!!” She also looks miserable during the drive. Big Ang interviews and says, “We were just driving and driving and driving….” Like Drita and Love, Big Ang looks like she would rather be sticking needles in her eyes than sitting there on that long drive.
Renee is oblivious (and probably thinking excitedly about her brand new attack dog).
Karen Confronts Karina And Dave
While Ramona and Karen are just lounging around on the couch in her Arizona home, Karina walks in. Karen excitedly jumps up to greet her, hug her and just take a long look at her before Karina sits down in between Karen and Ramona. She interviews that she called her Mother and told her to bring Karina over so she could visit with her (Karina lives with Karen’s Mother for some reason. Maybe she is very close to her grandmother, and Karen chose to have Karina live there when she moved because Dave had just gotten out of prison, and he and his daughter did not really even know each other all that well because he was incarcerated for 10 years). She says that each time she sees Karina, “She’s getting taller and taller and more and more beautiful every time.” (Aww, now that’s a Mama Bear who loves her little cub!).
Once Karina gets settled on the couch, Karen asks her questions about Dave. Karina immediately defensively asks, “Why do you want to know so much about him?” She has an attitude when she asks too (My Mom would have asked me if I had somehow lost my damned mind thinking I could just talk to her any kind of way. And I would straighten up REAL quick. As a matter of fact, she STILL does that….and I’m 42. *Sigh* #BlackMamaProblems). Karen interviews that it’s like Karina is “standoffish” with her (Yes, Karen, I agree. I also think she is a SASSY little heifer too. You need to get that in check….QUICK. Like my grandmother used to always tell my parents and her other children when it came to discipline, “Cher, you got to shape that li’l tree while it can still bend. Once it can’t bend no more, it’s too late. And you gon’ have you a problem tree. You watch what I tell you! Work wit’ dat tree now while it still can BEND, I tell you!!” At Karina’s age, she will soon be a tree that can no longer bend. If I were you, I’d drag her to Staten Island as soon as the school year was out to live with me.).
Karen then tries to ask Karina how things have been going with her, and if there is anything going wrong in her life. Karina initially nonchalantly says, “No.” She then says, “Well, I had this sub (substitute teacher) that was bothering me.” Karen tells Karina that she wants to know more about this. Karina says that she already discussed the problem with Rebecca (Dave’s girlfriend).
Karen looks like she has been stabbed in the heart (and I honestly felt super-sorry for her at that point. It was like Karina was acting like she was closer to Rebecca and looked at her as more of a mother figure than Karen, her OWN mother).
Karen then tells Karina that Karina should call her whenever she has ANY kind of problem like that or anything else because Karina is “the most important part” of her life.
Karina just looks at Karen nonchalantly and then, in an irritated tone, tells Karen to “chill out!” (Oh no, she didn’t!! I think I’m going to just leave this room and find one of my parents and tell them to just “CHILL out.” I’m pretty sure my bags would be packed within the next couple of hours while they both told me to “MOVE out!!” [#BlackParentProblems] and rightfully so! What the EFF??!! This little girl is too “grown-acting” for my taste!).
Karen tells Karina that she does NOT like her attitude and unexpectedly starts seriously crying (I feel so bad for her. She looks like she’s been punched in the gut.). She then raises her arm and points in the direction of the hallway and tells Karina to immediately go to her room “because I can’t even LOOK at you right now!”
Karina asks Karen why (My Parents’ Answer: “Because we SAID so, that’s WHY!!”). Karen tells Karina that she feels like “the odd man out” and like Karina is disrespecting her (That’s because she IS). Before Karina can get up to go to her room, Dave walks in. He looks at Karen and says, “What are YOU doing here?” (“Ummm…what do you mean WHAT am I DOING here??!! I OWN this house, or did you forget?! A better question is, ‘What is YOUR non-rent-paying a*s doing here with the audacity to even ASK me such a question??!!’”).
Attack Dog Audition
FINALLY, Renee, Big Ang, Drita and Love make it to the “attack dog kennel.” The camera pans to a cute as a button little lap dog and other adorable, “normal”-looking dogs just walking around. Big Ang interviews that they drove 3 hours, and “the dogs look REGULAR!”
Renee approaches one of the men who work at the kennel and explains to him that she wants a dog that “will grab a person by the throat and KILL him!!” The man looks at her like he does not quite understand. Renee says, “I want KILLERS!!” When she says that, it somehow seems to register with him.
He tells Renee that that do have attack dogs at their kennel as well as regular dogs, and what he will do is bring a few of them out and perform demonstrations with them for Renee so she can decide which one she would like to buy. Renee agrees.
A growling, snarling black German Shepherd is brought out first, barely contained on his leash. Drita’s eyes widen, and she immediately walks several feet away from the entire group and goes and stands all by herself. She interviews that she “don’t f*ck around with DOGS!! I heard that they can sense fear, and when they do, they attack. Well, guess who’s sh*tting her pants, Dogs!!! ME!!!” (Drita makes me laugh AGAIN. I also find this quite amusing because Drita has always claimed to be so rough and tough, but she is the first one to immediately move as far away from possible from the dogs because she is scared out of her wits!).
A man wearing a protective shield that covers the entirety of one of his arms and hand allows the attack dog to go at him and bite on the shield while he growls ferociously. Love interviews that she “loves animal aggression. It doesn’t faze me. It doesn’t make me nervous. I like it. It doesn’t scare me because if a dog bites me, I’ll bite him BACK!”
(Speaking of biting a dog BACK…Pause…. We interrupt our regularly scheduled programming for a TRUE STORY [or 2] break: I once had a cute little mutt. One of my Dad’s brothers and his wife and 3 sons were visiting. As they were leaving and standing around talking to my parents while we kids just hung around, my little mutt just nipped at my cousin, Damon, who went ballistic. He actually ran after my little dog, picked him up, bit him on his back and screamed as he spit the black dog fur out and threw my dog down!
I, of course, was screaming my head off as I ran to get my poor, wailing dog!! We had to buy a special salve for my dog’s wound and use it until it eventually healed, and the hair grew back. I STILL cannot believe Damon DID that sh*t!! He was actually the calmest and sweetest of that particular uncle’s 3 sons. I still get mortified and upset when I think about it, and it happened about 31 years ago!
I guess I really can’t complain, though. Once, while I was visiting that uncle, another one of his sons found a purple crayon in the yard and drew a TINY house on the front of their white house. I, being as bossy as ever, told him that he did not know what he was doing, and I was going to show him how it was done. I demanded that he go into his house and get his own crayons, and I then went to town drawing what I considered to be a damned MASTERPIECE across the entire lower half of the front of my uncle’s WHITE house with a several different colored crayons. My parents were MORTIFIED when they came out and saw what I’d done. I caught a VERY nice spanking and spent about an hour or two on my knees. I was also punished for what seemed like MONTHS, and I had to go and help my uncle paint the front of his house. I was only around 9 years old. You’d think my parents would have realized that they had a budding artist on their hands and encouraged me….but….NOOOOO! I think I was so traumatized that, ever since that incident, my BEST drawings now consists entirely of stick figures with hair. “I coulda been a contendah” if my parents had not crushed my young talent, Dammit! Now….back to our regularly scheduled programming.).
Big Ang watches the growling dog in terror and tells Renee that this particular dog “is probably not right for you because he’s….INTENSE…” Renee agrees and asks to see another dog.
The kennel worker then brings out a tan and black German shepherd that appears to be as aggressive and vicious as the first one they watched. At one point, Big Ang screams. Renee has a look on her face like she wants to smoke a pack of cigarettes, swallow 2 or 3 Xanaxes and wash that down with whole BOTTLE (the GIANT kind) of wine!! (One day at a time, Renee. One day at a time. Stay strong, Girl!)
One of the kennel workers then tells Renee, “Listen if you are going to have an attack dog in your house, you have to be careful. You also need to understand that they can only do so much. They can easily be taken out with a gun before they can even attack. However, their senses are super-keen. So, they can probably sense and warn you much earlier about an intruder than if you did not have one.” At this point, the camera pans over to Love, who has knelt down beside that vicious Black German Shepherd and is petting and loving on him while he remains calm and does not make a single sound (I guess he liked Love’s energy. Go figure.).
Renee asks the kennel worker how much an attack dog will cost, and he lets her know that she can get it for the super-cheap price of $15,000 (Insert sarcasm here. $15,000!!??!! DAYUM!!). Renee tells him she needs to go home and think about it some more. She interviews that she leaves the kennel with more questions than answers. She wonders, “Is this the right dog for A.J. and me?” She also wonders, “Can I afford this?”
Karen Finally Gives Dave A Piece Of Her Mind
He Acts Like He Could Not Care Less
After Dave asks “What are YOU doing here?” to Karen and receives little to no real response from Karen, he walks over to hug and greet Ramona, Karina and Karen. Ramona says that she is going to excuse herself and take Karina back to her room to talk.
Karen tells Dave that she noticed that his things are no longer in his home, and she asks him where he is now living. He tells her that he is living with his girlfriend. He explains that the only reason he came to her house was to check on the dog, Ozzy.
Karen wants to know why she had to find out that Dave was not even living in her house this way without him instead having the courtesy to inform her of this fact. Dave nonchalantly says, “I don’t have to report to you.” (The NERVE of this man!! When you have a woman that is good enough to let you live in her house RENT-FREE so you can get back on your feet while she pays all of the bills in this particular house, you DO have to “report” this information to her, Jacka*s!!). Dave then says he wanted to wait and tell Karen face-to-face instead of doing it over the phone. (I WOULD say that this is considerate, but I think the fact that Karen has been wasting money paying the mortgage for ONLY a damned DOG to live in that house when she could have instead had PAYING renters paying the mortgage for her while Dave lived elsewhere far outweighs his alleged “consideration.”).
Karen asks him why he would wait until he saw her face-to-face to tell her this information and still allow her to continue to pay all of the bills in that house instead of telling her over the phone so she could get paying renters in there instead (My sentiments exactly). Dave, again very nonchalantly, says that he simply did not “feel” like telling her. Karen’s voice rises, and she tells Dave that she “feels” like kicking him in the head right now (Girl, I so GET it!).
At this point, Dave gets up and moves into the kitchen and stands at the island while Karen remains on the couch (I personally think he did this so he could avoid Karen possibly getting angry enough to actually put her hands on him. I don’t think he fears this. I just think that, after 10 years of being in prison and possibly STILL being on probation, he wants to avoid ANY hint of domestic violence or trouble that can jeopardize his freedom.).
Karen tells Dave, “Tell your girlfriend that your ‘baby mama’ is in town, and she NEEDS to meet with me so I can see just who has been around my daughter so much.” Dave calmly tells Karen that she is “tripping.”
This seems to set Karen off, and her voice gets extremely loud as she starts railing at Dave. Among other things, she tells him that, of course, she is “tripping.” She has done nothing but be good to him and do everything to help him get back on his feet and, not only does he not appreciate it, he acts like he is doing her a favor to even discuss things with her about the house she is letting him live in rent-free and about the woman he has around their daughter when Karen has never even laid her own eyes on or even talked to the woman. She also says that she does not know what is going on and what Dave and his girlfriend are telling Karina about her, but Karina’s attitude has gotten very nasty toward her lately. She says, “Dave, you need to stop whatever it is you and/or your girlfriend are doing to make Karina have an attitude with me and work with me to co-parent Karina and understand that I am her mother, and she MUST respect me. Otherwise, I won’t be able to do nothin’ WITH her in the future!!” (I totally agree).
All the while Karen is railing, Dave just stands calmly in the kitchen looking at her without saying a word and without any kind of expression on his face. Karen then screams that Dave’s nonchalant attitude is “killing” her. Dave finally speaks and says that he HAS to be nonchalant. He asks her, “Do you know where I got this nonchalant attitude from? I got it from being in PRISON for 10 years. I could not allow myself to get angry or emotional in there. So, I had to LEARN to be nonchalant. I had to be nonchalant when I wasn’t receiving mail at times. I had to be nonchalant when I wasn’t able to see my family for holidays sometimes. I had to be nonchalant so I could make it through. I still need to be nonchalant because I can’t afford to get angry and do something that might make me go BACK to prison.”
This seems to anger Karen even more. She screams, “You think your being in prison for 10 years was 1-sided?! I was out here being loyal to you and waiting on you and raising our daughter serving my own kind of time while you were in there. I wanted siblings for Karina. Why do you think she does not and probably will not HAVE any more from ME? It’s because I sacrificed too. I waited on you and did my time too!! And now you want to treat me like this and act like that is NOTHING. Now, you want to disrespect me after I did that and after I did everything to help you get back on your feet once you got OUT of prison??!!” She also tells him that, throughout the entirety of their relationship up until now, they always were direct and upfront with each other out of mutual respect. She says that this has now changed, and she just can’t believe it. She tells him that he should have continued to be upfront with her and tell her about his new girlfriend, and he especially should have told her that he was moving out of her house because she has basically been paying all of the bills in that house for ONLY a DOG to live there (I’m totally on Karen’s side when it comes to everything she is saying.).
Karen finally tells Dave that she wants to meet Rebecca before she leaves Arizona, and he better make it happen. He agrees and says he will call Rebecca and “set it up.” Then, he walks out of the house.
Ramona Reconsiders Her Engagement Because She Has Fallen In Love With Dave
After Dave and Karina leave, Ramona walks out of the bedroom where she’s been since she left Karen and Dave alone to talk. She tells Karen that she eavesdropped on Karen and Dave’s entire conversation.
She then smiles and tells Karen, “I think I REALLY like him for you. He SMELLS good!! He LOOKS great. He looks like he’s been working out. I REALLY think he might be the guy for you.”
Karen looks at Ramona like she is straight CRAZY (and I think the same damned thing. How could ANYTHING about the conversation Karen and Dave just had make Ramona do a complete 180 and all of a sudden “love” Dave and think he is “the one” for Karen?? I honestly think Ramona got a good look at [and a good whiff of] Dave who is, I admit, HOT and SEXY [I don’t know what it is about some of these lowlife, criminal dudes on this show, but they do happen to be sexy and have a swagger about them. Maybe it’s the whole ‘bad boy’ thing. I don’t know.] and fell in love! I think that if she were not so loyal to Karen, she’d sleep with Dave in a heartbeat and dump her jailbird fiance’! *Shrug* This is JUST my opinion, but what do I know? I could be entirely wrong, but I don’t know WHAT made her entire attitude toward Dave change so drastically other than she was mesmerized by his nice scent and sexy looks).
Karen continues to look at Ramona like she is stunned and thoroughly irritated (and possibly thinking, “Ummm….as my best girlfriend, don’t you think you could be a little less complimentary to this a*shole??!! All of these compliments you’re bestowing on him right now really do not make me feel good or help me out…AT ALL!!”). She then exasperatedly asks Ramona, “You went from HATING Dave to being his biggest FAN??!!”
Ramona just looks at her with a huge smile still on her face.
Drita And Carla Check Out The Progress On Drita’s Makeup Store
In a voice over shown as Drita and Carla ride in Drita’s vehicle, Drita says that she is taking a ride with Carla to check out the progress on the building she is renovating to use as her new makeup store.
Carla tells Drita that her birthday is coming up, and she wants to celebrate. She tells Drita that she is not inviting ANY of the other women (from the cast. What about Big Ang? I thought they liked each other and got along.).
Drita changes the subject and tells Carla that Lee is getting out of the halfway house for good in 2 months. Carla asks Drita how things have been going with Lee, and Drita says that they are trying to understand each other in a new way since they have been physically apart for so long and have, not surprisingly, changed in some ways. She says that Lee HAS to understand that she WANTS him in her life, but she does not NEED him in her life. She says that this is a big change for him because, in the past, before he went to prison, she was totally dependent on him.
Drita interviews that her store needs to “open up quick because I have been paying rent on the space even though my business is not yet open.” Once they get to the building, Drita shows Carla around, and they comment on the progress so far. Drita seems to be pleased with it, and Carla is very complimentary about it as well. Drita interviews that Big Ang’s brother, Louie, is renovating the whole thing. She says Ang has been the biggest help to her throughout the whole process.
Drita tells Carla that she wonders what Lee is going to think about it. She reminds Carla that Lee knows that she sold the wedding ring her gave her after she found out he cheated on her. Now, she can show him exactly for what she used the money she got from that sale: this building for her business. Drita interviews that she feels so good that “the lifestyle did not break me, and I have an opportunity for a fresh start.” (You go, Drita!).
Karen Gives Ramona An Arizona “Mob-Style” Tour
Karen interviews that she is going to show Ramona around Arizona. She takes Ramona to the place where her father’s old construction company was located in Arizona. Karen tells Ramona that her father signed himself out of the Witness Protection Program after only being in it for 6 months. He then turned his life around and started a legitimate and successful pool business.
Karen tells Ramona that, despite this, her father always knew that he was still in danger from the Mob (for ratting out John Gotti and others), but he continued to live his life anyway while still taking precautions regarding his safety. She points out to Ramona the fact that her father picked his business location because he had a good view of everything around his business. Karen then shows Ramona the street corner where members of the Mob had planned to detonate a bomb to blow up her father’s car. She says that this plan was somehow screwed up and, luckily, it never happened.
Karen interviews that, while living in Arizona, her, her brother Gerard and Dave got involved in an ecstasy drug ring. She says she did it as a way of acting out because she was still filled with a lot of anger over everything that took place with her father. She says her father knew NOTHING about it.
One day, he went to Karen and Gerard and told them he felt like he was being followed by the authorities, and he felt like it might have something to do with THEM because he was living his life within the law at that time. Karen says her father told them, “I don’t know WHAT the two of you are doing, but you need to STOP right now because I feel like the authorities are following and watching me because of something illegal the two of you are doing because I’m not involved in illegal activity anymore.”
Karen says that she and Gerard refused to heed her father’s warnings. She tells Ramona that it all caught up with them, and one day, their home was raided by the FBI. She, her brother, Dave and her father were all rounded up and taken in by the authorities during this raid. Karina was just a baby at the time.
All of them, including her father, were then later charged in connection with the drug ring. Karen interviews that her father took the rap so that Gerard and Dave’s prison terms could be cut in ½ and so that her sentence could either be avoided and replaced by probation or also somehow shortened. According to Karen, even though her father had no involvement in their drug ring, he lied and said he did. Karen says she believes her father was charged with 20 years simply because he is the infamous “Sammy the Bull”. She further interviews that it just doesn’t “sit well” with her that HER actions caused her father to go back to prison (It would not sit well with me either. I think I would be riddled with guilt every single day of my life if my father wound up serving any kind of sentence as a result of MY screwed-up behavior).
It’s Carla’s Birthday And She’ll Celebrate If She Wants To
Carla, Big Ang and Drita get out of a limousine and enter some type of restaurant. Carla interviews that she only invited Drita and Ang and some of her girlfriends from Brooklyn because she wanted to have a “Girls Night” for her birthday “with NO drama.” Drita interviews that she does not want Carla to think she is NOT her friend just because of what she said at Big Ang’s Christmas Party.
Once everybody is inside drinking, talking and laughing, Carla tells her guests that she wants to go away on a vacation with JUST her boyfriend and nobody else. She interviews that she has a boyfriend that she has been with “for a while,” and he is very good to her and her kids (I told you guys several blogs ago that this woman has had a boyfriend “for a while.” Try a few years, Carla.).
Carla then tells the group that she is getting a divorce and ready for a new part of her life. She interviews that she is starting a new chapter of her life called, “Carla Moves On.” She also says that she is glad that she invited some of her girlfriends from Brooklyn because the girls with whom she grew up in Brooklyn “are not catty.”
The women at the party, including Carla, begin discussing Joe’s father, who is a gynecologist. It turns out that he is or has been the gynecologist for some of Carla’s birthday guests, including Drita. Drita tells the group that she got up to 215 pounds when she was pregnant (Jeez!! I cannot see super-slim Drita weighing 215 pounds! I just CAN’T.). She says that her “a*s was HUGE, and she was in labor for 25 hours. Even though she was in labor, she was still hungry. So, she hid a meatball sub in her bag and secretively ate it in her hospital bed while she was in labor (Drita can be such a riot!). She interviews that she is happy that Carla is moving on with her life, in a good relationship and happy.
I Think We Can Get Daddy Out
In a voice over, Karen says she is meeting up with her brother Gerard. She is shown driving to a remote spot to meet him. They each get out of their vehicles and hug when they reach one another. She interviews that Gerard is her younger brother, and they are VERY close. They have been through thick and thin together, and, outside of her father, Gerard “is the only man who has held me down.”
Gerard asks her if she has talked to their father. Karen says that she has not talked to him in a while. Karen interviews that her father is in and out of “the hole,” and has basically been in solitary confinement for 7 years (Jeez, Louise!! I would go NUTS! In an interview, Karen showed some of the artwork her father has sent her from prison. He is actually a very talented artist. I wonder if he has at least been allowed to paint while in solitary for all of those years. I know I should not care because he is an admitted killer, but I DO wonder. *Shrug*).
Gerard tells Karen that he thinks he has found a way that they could possibly get their father out of prison. Karen’s eyes widen at this. Gerard explains that her father accepted a plea without being informed by his lawyer that he could get an extra 5 years for the plea deal that he accepted. Karen interviews that if they can prove that her father was NOT aware that he could get an extra 5 years when he accepted his plea deal then they could, indeed, possibly get him out of prison because he has already served just about 15 of the 20 years to which he was sentenced.
Karen tells Gerard that she believes that her father was given more time than he would have been given for the particular charges for which he is now serving time simply because he is the infamous Sammy “The Bull” Gravano. Gerard agrees and notes that this fact will also make it very difficult when they try to prove that he deserves to be released from prison based on a technicality. Karen tells him, “So, we basically have to go to WAR,” and he nods his head in agreement.
Gerard tells Karen that he has all of the information pertaining to their father’s case and how they could possibly get him released from prison early in a locked storage room. He gives her the key and tells her to check everything in there out for herself.
Renee takes Krav Maga lessons because she says that in rehab they told her to find healthy ways of releasing her aggression (Those lessons will probably also come in handy if Renee is ever faced with an intruder in her home. I am sure she considered this when she chose this outlet).
Karen tells Ramona that she feels like she is the reason her father is in prison, and she just cannot seem to get that fact and the guilt she has over it out of her mind. Ramona screams at her and tells her to, “MOVE ON!!”
Love tells Ang she has never even met Carla, but she KEEPS hearing all of these negative things that Carla CONTINUES to go around saying about her.
Big Ang tells Drita that Love has again mentioned Carla and the nasty things she has been hearing Carla allegedly saying about her all over town. Both of them say that the situation between Carla and Love is escalating. Drita says that something NEEDS to be done to resolve that situation soon “because Love is going to rip Carla’s throat out!!” (Coming from a notorious fighter like Drita, she must be well-aware of Love’s tough reputation and either personally witnessed or heard enough from people who have personally witnessed Love’s violent side to know that Love’s reputation is well-deserved and accurate).
Karen finally meets with Dave’s girlfriend Rebecca (and Dave, who is sitting right beside Rebecca as they both face “the Karen firing squad”).
Saturday Night Lineup, March 16th by BB
8PM – American Ninja Warrior (NBC); Cops (Fox); UFC 158 (FX); Too Cute! (Anpl); Real Housewives of Beverly Hills First Look (8:49 Bravo)
9PM – 20/20 (ABC); Dateline: Real Life Mysteries (TLC); My Big Redneck Vacation (CMT); Blackboard Wars (OWN); Deadly Sins (ID); Joan and Melissa: Joan Knows Best (WE); Untold Stories of the ER (Fit); Renovation Realities (DIY)
10PM – 48 Hours (CBS); Dateline: Real Life Mysteries (TLC); Pit Boss (Anpl); Savage Family Diggers (Spike); Unfaithful: Stories of Betrayal (OWN); An Idiot Abroad 3 (Science); Scorned: Love Kills (ID); My Ghost Story: Caught on Camera (Biography); The Graham Norton Show (BBC)
Looking for Bloggers:
- Dance Moms (finish out the season)
- Orange County cast blogs
- LA Shrinks
- Married to Medicine
- Don’t be Tardy
- Kandi Factory