Real Housewives of Orange County – Get the F**k Out

Real Housewives of Orange County by Stars99

This episode opens with Alexis visiting Vicki with a gift in hand again… While I love presents just as much as the next person, it just seems weird to me that these housewives are always giving stuff to each other.  Alexis tells Vicki how great she looks after her surgery.  Just because she’s a grandma now – it doesn’t mean she has to look like one.  She’s a grown adult and she’s comfortable in her own skin – if you want to have plastic surgery, Alexis’ thinks you should do it!  Wait, if Vicki was comfortable in her own skin, then she wouldn’t have had the surgery, no?  Awww… Alexis gave Vicki a mirror so she could freak out when her wrinkles form again – no, I jest… she gave her a mirror so she knows how beautiful she is – Now that she had surgery done – no, I jest some more… Alexis wants Vicki to know that even though when Alexis had surgery she was annihilated by the other women, that Alexis is squarely in Vicki’s corner the whole way.

Vicki announces to Alexis that Tamra is having a get together and Vicki doesn’t want to go by herself so she selfishly pleads with Alexis to go as her date. Because you know, that’s what real friends do – they love to put their good friends in horrifically uncomfortable situations with people who hate them.  Vicki thinks that they’re all adults and can act respectfully like adults.  Ummm… have you even met the other women?  Perhaps you should look in that mirror Alexis just gave you while you’re at it, cuz you’ve been known to act very immaturely as well.  Vicki tells Alexis she already called Tamra and Tamra said it was okay that she attends because Vicki told Tamra that she needed Alexis to come with her.  Alexis doesn’t even know where she stands with the other women at this point – and really, she doesn’t even know if she wants to be friends with them at all.  Alexis thinks it’s a good sign that Tamra is saying it’s okay for her to attend and that they’ll all just leave the drama at home – Maybe there’s a chance – Yeah, right – a fat chance, I’d say.  Alexis said she has plans with Lydia that night and asks Vicki to clear it with Tamra for her to bring Lydia along to the event as well.  Alexis says that Lydia is devout – and that if Alexis is considered a Christian – that Lydia is a Christian on steroids. Vicki decides to take the chicken way out and is going to text Tamra cuz she’s askeered of her.  Alexis says that Lydia is young and fun and will even the playing field if they all get into a fight that night.  Vicki wants to know how young is “young” and Alexis thinks Lydia is around 30 or something – but she’s never actually asked to see Lydia’s birth certificate.  Tamra responds to Vicki’s text with a, “Yeah, I guess… I just don’t want any nonsense – This is supposed to be a happy time.”  Yes, because everyone else at the dinner is going to behave like adults and it’s the new kid they have to worry about, right?

Heather on KFI -Heather is getting ready to go out and is told by Terry that the driver is already out in front.  Heather is going to fill in on the radio for someone on KFI – AM 640 – Stimulating talk radio.  KFI used to be a big deal around here – 30 years ago.  They used to have the catchphrase, “KFI Makes Your Wiggle Waggle.”  Don’t ask me why I remember that – I just do, lol.  Heather explains that if her life is like a puzzle, the piece called “career” is not currently on the board.  She gladly changed her name last year (oh puhleeze) and gave up the thousands of acting opportunities so she could stay home with her kids and 8 nannies.  Okay perhaps I exaggerated the number of nannies a little, but come on – Martyr, party of one, please!  Neil Saavedra, the radio host introduces Heather on air.  Heather says she’s done quite a bit of radio over her career.  She describes it as being kind of like you’re on an island all by yourself.  So, out of all the topics in all the land, Heather starts talking about how she hates that the term “bully” is being bandied around – and that it’s just ridiculous.  In her talking head, Heather tells us that Alexis is calling Gretchen, Tamra and Heather “bullies.”  Heather believes that she just gave Alexis her honest opinion in a clear concise way without yelling, therefore, she didn’t bully her. Heather is evidently really offended to be called a bully since Heather actually got bullied by a sophomore when she was a freshman in high school.  Even though she attended high school in a rich area, she was targeted by a sophomore who got her friends together and terrorized her.  They yelled at her and spread rumors around school about her.  The bullying just pushed Heather towards her theatric activities and she’s feels lucky since it was such an amazing outlet for a singer and an actress.  Heather tells us that just because someone is not particularly nice to you or makes a rude comment – that it doesn’t mean that you’re being bullied.  Terry has been watching Heather’s broadcast the whole time and gives her a standing ovation when she’s done for a job well done.  I was pleasantly surprised he was there the whole time to be honest.

Okay while I’m not exactly sure that I would use the term “bullying” to describe what happened to Alexis last season, let’s use Heather’s own personal scenario she unequivocally describes as “bullying” and her own words to test to see if they at all parallel what happened to Alexis:

~~ Heather’s happened in an affluent area – So did Alexis’ situation;

~~ The sophomore got her friends in on the action – Tamra, Gretchen and Heather banded together against Alexis;

~~ Heather’s bullies yelled at her – Alexis’ bullies did, too;

~~ Heather’s bullies started rumors about her – Alexis’ bullies had plenty of gossipy stuff to say about she and her husband;

~~ There had to be some pre-planning for the bullies to be together at the same time and place for it to occur – Not only did Tamra, Gretchen and Heather pre-plan when they were going to gang up on Alexis, but they also plotted out what they were going to say; and,

~~ The sophomore and her friends terrorized Heather – Shock of all shocks – Alexis felt they all ganged up on her and terrorized her – and not just one time, but over and over again to the point that she can’t even be in the same place as the others. We’ll see in a future episode that she even had to go on medication because of it.

I’ve got to be honest though, that I truly believe true “bullying” is done in circumstances wherein the victim doesn’t have a lot of choice but to place themselves in vulnerable, dangerous circumstances over and over again for it to happen or somehow cannot escape the situation – like in a schoolyard, on the way to or from school, outside of work, cyber bullying, etc.  For me, “bullying” also brings to mind a younger aged person – wherein someone who is either physically bigger or stronger or has more people on their team goes up against a physically weaker, younger person or one who is innately more vulnerable.  Herein lies the key difference in Alexis’ situation – She continues to have a choice of whether or not to subject herself to the attacks.  It would mean sacrificing a paycheck, yes, but as an adult, she still does have a choice.  She also has a production team around her so she is never in actual danger.  The heinous part is that Gretchen, whom she had strenuously defended during her own time of dire need has suddenly turned on her and is now one of her attackers.   Both Heather and Tamra have 4 children – and I really wonder how they can honestly sleep at night knowing what crappy role models they’re being to their kids.  Oh, and not to mention what their kids are hearing about these episodes or the fallout they’re experiencing at their schools – Unfortunately, it wouldn’t surprise me if Heather and Tamra’s actions will have severe adverse repercussions on their kids.  Do they not understand this?

On to better topics – Lydia’s and Alexis’s kids are having a play date and they’re going to decorate cookies.  I wish we could have seen some of that scene – but alas, kids spreading icing on each other is just not enough drama for Bravo.  Lydia explains that when she first saw Alexis in her neighborhood she thought she was just so beautiful and had it all together. They really connected because she thought Alexis seemed like such a great mom.  Lydia tells Alexis that she met Heather regarding the magazine article.  Alexis looked stunned and quickly asked what Heather had said about her.  Lydia nervously blurted out that Heather told her that Alexis wore a fake diamond ring.  Alexis thinks it’s interesting that the first thing Heather shares with Lydia is about her cubic zirconia ring.  Alexis decides to try to clue in Lydia about Heather by telling her that when she first met Heather she thought she was a nice person and that she was funny and kind.  However, through the year Heather constantly threw digs at Alexis and called her names.  Lydia says it seems so middle school – and Alexis says it’s more like high school mean girls.  However, that being said, Alexis decides to invite Lydia to Tamra’s party.  She explains that she and Vicki need positive people around them – plus if Lydia goes then the teams are even:  Tamra, Gretchen and Heather on one team; and Vicki, Alexis and Lydia on another.  Alexis doesn’t know what she was thinking when she said yes… but she’s convinced that Lydia will bring positive energy.  Alexis says she’s Vicki’s support and that Lydia’s her support.

Heather and Terry are scheduled to have dinner with Lydia and Doug that night. Terry is so tired and wonders if they really have to go and Heather assures him that they really do need to go because she can’t tell them “no” at this point.  They again talk about their home being part of the magazine article and they reconfirm that if they’re not on the cover that they don’t feel it’s worth it to put every nook and cranny of their house out for everyone to see.  Right, because it’s not like you’re on a reality TV show which in part, shoots in your home or anything.  Being on the cover could potentially mean good publicity for Terry’s business.  They meet Lydia and Doug at “Sol” restaurant and as they walk in they are apologizing that they’re a little late.  No worries, Lydia and Doug already ordered margaritas.  It seemed like Heather looked taken aback that they had already ordered drinks.  Heck, I immediately order an iced tea if I’m seated at a restaurant before someone else arrives, so what’s the big deal?  It’s agreed that it looks like they have really great appetizers here and oh by the way, have you guys talked about the photo shoot?  What are you envisioning?  Doug explains that it’s a custom home article and he wishes they could offer them the cover but they just really can’t.  The cover needs to feature a household name that sells magazines. I think that Heather sucked the air out of the room just about then – I know I felt a sonic boom from my house… Ha ha ha… I’m so amused – it’s like Doug was saying, “Who in this world is Adrienne Maloof?”  Dies laffin’… (Sorry, I really need to get over RHOBH, don’t I?)  Lydia explains in her blog that the magazine is only published quarterly – so the decision about who goes on the cover is an important one.  They decide to shelve the topic at this point and perhaps talk about it at a future time. Lydia breaks the news to Heather that she and Alexis are going to Tamra’s party.  Again, Heather is shocked and has no idea what could have happened to create the situation wherein Alexis is going to Tamra’s party.  She thinks something is “hinky” about it – dagnabit, I used to love using that word, “hinky” – Now I’m going to have to rethink it since I don’t want to be guilty by word association… lol.. that lil joke may make more sense later on… lol…  Lydia is surprised by the weird look on Heather’s face.  Heather climbs up on her royal throne with her plastic nose up in the air so high it’s a wonder she still can look down her nose to see the commoners who gathering below her Royal Heathership to hear what she has to say. Her Royal Heathership issues a royal decree that we’re all known by the company we keep and that when you’re coming into a new group of friends that you should consider how you’re coming into the group.  Her Royal Heathership tells the lowly Lydia that if she’s friends with Alexis that’s great – but obviously, don’t we all know that’s not what she really means.  What her Royal Heathership should have said is if you’re not on our team, then we are going to make your life H-E-Double Hockey Sticks.  Lydia muses that she doesn’t even know these people yet so why is she already involved in the drama?  Awww, young grasshopper, you have much to learn – so much to learn.

Gretchen and Slade are on their way to John Wayne Airport.  Gretchen hates it when Slade leaves – but he’s flying to New York to be with his 12 year old son who is having another major surgery – which could potentially give him a better quality of life.  Slade assures her the ramifications of not operating outweigh the risks of the surgery itself.  Depending on how the surgery goes, it could be days, weeks or months before Slade can come back home.  And just when I felt my heart sincerely going out to Gretchen and Slade, sure enough – Gretchen proves once again what a self-centered, self-absorbed, hateful and clueless sludge of a human being she is by going on about how difficult it’s going to be ON GRETCHEN because she’s used to spending every day with Slade.  Are you freaking kidding me?  My head exploded right about then… Holy cow, for someone who spent a lot of time in hospitals with people who have been very ill – Gretchen is really proving to be amazingly worthless in this situation.  In a meager effort to suck sympathy from the viewers, in her talking head through tear-filled eyes, Gretchen explains that parents suffer and carry guilt that there’s nothing they can do to make the situation better for their kids – and she doesn’t want anyone to have that feeling.  Eddie has a lot of nerve leaving Gretchen, doesn’t he?

Tamra is laying outfits out on the bed while talking to Eddie.  He goes in for a kiss and she barely lets him kiss her on the cheek.  What to wear, what to wear… She decides she wants to wear something that will match the purse Eddie got her in Italy.  One of the dresses still has a tag on it.  Comments are made about how many dresses she has in her closet with the tags still on them.  She explains that she buys them when she sees them.  Eddie doesn’t know why she needs a new dress every month.  Whoa… only one a month?  Either she’s not being honest about her spending habits to Eddie or else she’s really not doing her part in being a good housewife in Orange County. I would guess most affluent women in this area probably buy at least one outfit a week, no?  Tamra can’t decide between two different dresses and Eddie wants her to try them on because he can’t tell just by looking at them on a hanger.  Tamra snaps and bitchily tells him that she will just figure it out herself.  Eddie wonders what is her problem?  Yeah, we’re all wondering what Tamra’s problem is, Eddie – and you’ll hafta be more specific because she has many, many problems.  Eddie asks if she’s pissed off about something? Tamra confesses that she’s mad that she’s letting Vicki bring Alexis to the party tonight.  She just felt put on the spot and she didn’t know what to say… Ummm… How about “No” – I’m pretty sure that would have worked.  Now, after thinking and stewing about it – she doesn’t want Alexis there at all partly because she doesn’t want to hear any nonsense about bullying.   Eddie wants to know if the other girls know that Alexis is going to be there and Tamra said that both Gretchen and Heather know.  Really, so that means Tamra’s been busy playing gossip, no?  Eddie wants to know what they had to say about it – and Tamra said they couldn’t believe that she said that Alexis could come which just makes Tamra feel like a bigger ass.  Well, if the spanks fit, wear ‘em, Tamra!  She’s also angry that Vicki put her in this position in the first place and Eddie wonders if Vicki even cares.  In her talking head while talking about Vicki, Tamra says, “This is totally like a ‘Screw You’. I don’t understand why she’s doing it and why she wants to hurt me like that.” I’m completely dying laffing, because neither Vicki nor Alexis have even arrived and their names are already “mud.”    Eddie asks her what she is going to do and Tamra doesn’t know, but one thing she does know is that her stomach hurts so she has to go to the bathroom.  Eddie reminds her to flush.  Wow.  Yep, that Eddie and Tamra – Match made in heaven.

Alexis is waiting for Lydia to pick her up for the party and is hopeful they can end on a civil ground.  Alexis is thankful Lydia is going tonight and Lydia naïvely says it will be fun… Whoops…

Tamra shows up to the CUT Fitness Studio place thingie or whatever they’re calling it this week – and there are flowers and candles all over the place which is exactly what Tamra wanted… The caterer did a great job.  Basically, this is a big empty space that was warmed up with strategic peachy lighting and a nice staging area.  Tamra wants to make sure there is a seating chart for the dinner table because in true awesome form, Tamra unwraps some special wine glasses she has only for her “special friends” but not for the others.  How very adult of you, Tamra.  Awww, look – they have a nice crown thingie on the side or something like that – Honestly, I couldn’t care less.  It’s in such bad taste to have special things for some guests and not for others.  It’s okay though, because it looks like Tamra picked up the “special” goblets by the outside rim, thus getting her funky fingerprints all over them – and who wants to drink out of glasses that have Tamra’s icky fingerprint sludge all over them? In case someone out there didn’t actually believe that teams had been formed – this is just further evidence.

Oh goodie, Gretchen is picking up Heather at her house for this fun filled evening.  Terry’s opening a little bottle of  “Chumps” (No boys and girls, that was not a typo – anyone who calls “Champagne” – “Champs” actually drinks “Chumps” in my opinion…)  As if they won’t have enough time on the car ride over to anticipate the evening’s event, Gretchen and Heather sit down to sip on some “Chumps” and commence gossiping.  Gretchen says that Tamra is so upset about tonight.  She said that Alexis hasn’t been around in 9 months and suddenly she wants to go to this party!  Yes, because we the viewers saw exactly how much Alexis really, really wanted to go to the party (Insert gratuitous eye roll here…). Gretchen whines about how Alexis hasn’t called or reached out to them or has said anything to any of them – because, you know, that’s exactly what we all would do if we felt like we were being bullied – We would reach out to our bulliers.  Puhleeze.  Gretchen says that Alexis is threating to sue and is calling everyone who is going to the party “bullies.” Gretchen just doesn’t understand Alexis’ purpose in going.  Ummm… Could it possibly be because Vicki begged her to go?  Okay, now… are you guys sitting down – Cuz you might get dizzy… In Gretchen’s talking head, after we’ve heard over and over again from her how stupid it is for Alexis to use the term “bullying” to describe their actions against her last year, Gretchen uses an actual bullying analogy to explain why Alexis shouldn’t show up to events like tonight’s party when the rest of them are in attendance – I kid you not.  Gretchen said, “It’s like going to the school tables of the kids that keep bullying you and keep taking your lunch money…and you keep going back and sitting at the same table, ‘Why are you taking my lunch money?’ It’s like don’t go sit at the table anymore!  Learn your lesson. You’re asking for it.”  Honestly, that’s what Gretchen said as best as I could understand it – I did not exaggerate it or anything. I just couldn’t make up something like that, honest. Holy Batcrap Crazy, Batman!

Meanwhile, Alexis and Lydia show up to Vicki’s house as she’s pouring a glass of wine for everyone.  Inexplicably, Lydia launches in a spontaneous “woo hoo” and instantly Vicki thinks she and Lydia are soul mates.  Lydia explains she and her husband are entrepreneurs and this only further fuels Vicki’s Lydia lovefest.  She thinks she and Lydia have similar personalities.  Cough, cough… yeah, right!  Vicki is convinced she’s going to like Lydia.

Gretchen and Heather arrive at CUT Fitness – and they think it looks like “the Bachelor”…. They sit down on couches with Tamra amongst the peachy lit walls and immediately start  talking smack about those who have yet to join them.  Lydia is pronounced guilty by her association with Alexis.  Heather tries to say she’s a nice girl… but Tamra continues to insist that she’s guilty by association – even though she has never met her… I’d hate to think what that makes you, Tamra!

Oh no… someone by the name of “Charlene” who is billed as a psychic medium is also going to attend… omg – another dinner from H-E-Double Hockey Sticks?  Charlene walks in and Tamra says they were just talking about her and wonders if her ears were burning or if she was picking up on anything.  The “psychic” says, why yes, as a matter of fact she was.  Right.  If she was truly a psychic – She would have known to never shown up to such an evil gathering – but I digress… Charlene wants to bless the building and take out any negative energy.  Well, can you get rid of negative people, too – cuz that’s what it’s going to take to get rid of the negative energy.  Tamra says she hopes everything will be done in 4 weeks… After looking around at all the empty space Charlene isn’t feeling 4 weeks – but psychically predicts it will be more like 6 weeks.  Heck, even I could have told you that!  In an ironic move, Bravo used the psychic piece as the 30 second psyche out – you know, when you’ve fast forwarded past commercials and stop because you think the show has started again – only to see 30 seconds of footage before they launch into yet another commercial.  It was amusing to me.  With a completely straight face, the psychic feels the evening will go well… Suddenly Tamra doesn’t believe in psychics anymore.

Because it hasn’t already been talked to death, Tamra continues to explain to Heather and Gretchen that she thought Vicki was joking when she originally asked to bring Alexis.  Now poor Tamra is uncomfortable in her own space because that evil Alexis is on her way.  Heather wants to play the devil’s advocate and asks if it’s possible that Alexis wants to make amends and make things right. Nope, no…  no way, Gretchen says that Alexis should have done a one-on-one to make things right.  This is not the time or the place for it – they need a public restaurant where they can really embarrass each other, flip tables, and throw stuff.  Actually, she didn’t say that last part… but I think she implied it.  Plus, if someone says, “STFU” tonight – it really loses its’ effectiveness if there’s only like 8 people there to hear it.

As they’re driving up, Alexis is suddenly saddened that she brought Lydia.  In her talking head, Tamra describes when she first saw Alexis, she thought – There she is the – the person who wants to sue her, walking into her place of business – and she allowed it. Tamra said she’s starting to feel really stupid.  Wow, it took you this long to feel stupid?  We’ve known it for years…  Vicki comes bearing a gift of a honkin’ plant and I find myself thinking longingly about that tree trunk of a Rose Parade Float that someone else had delivered for a certain Villa Blanca party in Beverly Hills, but again, I digress… Heather walks right up to Lydia and greets her very warmly.  She civilly greets Alexis with a “Hi, nice to see you” which to me, was perfectly acceptable in this situation.  However, in her talking head, Alexis said that it sounded phony – Wasn’t that one of their big beefs with Alexis last year – that she acted too phony?  Three Kings Bearing GiftsAlexis goes right up to Tamra and says stuff like, “I know we have our differences, it’s just as a business woman it’s just not easy, and hats off to you – Congratulations” and then she hands her a bottle of wine or something.  Again, this seemed perfectly acceptable to me.  Gretchen has no plan in how she’s going to deal with Alexis but she assures us that she is not going to out of her way to be cordial. Of course you’re not, Gretchen – We wouldn’t possibly believe you could behave like an adult or anything.  Lydia introduces herself to Tamra and hands her a gift which is a very smart thing to do in housewifeland.  Lydia looks around and exclaims that, “This spot is beautiful.”  In a weird twist, Tamra suddenly takes Lydia and Alexis on a tour and she shows them the renderings of where all the equipment will be when it’s all finished.  As they’re all sitting back down again, Alexis just couldn’t help herself and says that it takes a lot to open a business – even a small dress business, which of course she’s alluding to her almost defunct business endeavor from last season.  Crickets chirp.  Lydia astutely says in her talking head that the room feels like everyone is friends but that the 3 of them aren’t able to sit with the cool girls.  I wonder if Gretchen has stolen her lunch money yet?  Lydia says she must be crazy for agreeing to attend this party… Yep, you are!  Lydia apologizes to Tamra for her not knowing that she was going to attend.  Tamra said no, that she knew she was coming.  Lydia says it’s not usually her style to attend a function at the last minute.  Alexis then bizarrely starts asking for a knife – thankfully, it was only to cut the tension…

Awkward…awkward… awkward… Tamra asks Lydia if she has any kids – and Lydia responds that she has 2.  Tamra says she has 4 kids and Lydia exclaims, “And look at you!”  Not to be ignored, Heather reminds us that she also has 4 kids, and Lydia graciously includes Heather in the “OMG you have 4 kids and you look hot” portion of our program.   In an effort to include Gretchen in the conversation, Lydia asks Gretchen if she has kids. Using as few words as possible, Gretchen dryly responds, “No.”  Lydia continues to try to find common ground or to make small talk with Gretchen with the “Are you married?” question. In another evidence of Gretchen’s ability to be an adult, she wryly again says, “No.”  Lydia continues to gush, “Well certainly, you must have a boyfriend – look at you!”  Finally, Gretchen manages to squeeze out more than just a monosyllabic answer because she’s just been complemented and says, “Yes, I have someone I’ve been with for 4 years.”  Then Gretchen blathers on about how he is a wonderful guy or some such nonsense. Gag.

Heckle and JeckleSuddenly, it’s time to toast Tamra…(I would have preferred to roast Tamra, but then that’s just me)  Cheers!  Go big or go home… It’s impressive… It’s industrial… It’s conveniently across the street from Vicki’s insurance company!  Jeckle (Gretchen) is whispering into Heckle’s (Tamra) ear that it’s all about Vicki again and that she always makes it all about herself.  Has Jeckle looked in the mirror recently? Vicki says no it’s not… it’s about Tamra… Alexis tries to make a lame joke about people may need insurance after they hurt themselves while working out… Vicki says she has a baby now… Jeckle cackles, “You’ve had a baby?”  No dimwad, she didn’t have a baby, but she’s a new grandmother and her family has a new baby.  Who says this crap?  Gretchen wants clarification on if Vicki’s insinuating that she actually had a baby.  Ummm… no… there’s a new baby in their family, you idiot.  Vicki leans over and explains to Lydia that Gretchen is a stupid person in a loud enough voice for Gretchen and everyone else to hear.  Tamra asks for clarification, “Who is a stupid person? Gretchen?”  Vicki stands by her words and says, “Yes. The fact that she would call me out on saying “my baby/our baby” is just stupid to me.”  Tamra doesn’t think calling Gretchen a stupid person is a very nice thing to say. It wasn’t a nice thing to say – but really, how much stupid can a person take?  In her talking head, because she’s not brave enough to say it to Vicki’s face, Tamra says, “The fact that she said, “My baby” – does she nurse him, too?”  In her best Captain Obvious voice, Vicki explains, “It’s Briana’s baby.  Everyone knows it’s Briana’s baby… I’m a very proud grandmother and I love that child.  If anyone looks on that as being negative – Shame on them.”  In a seemingly sincere effort to change the subject, Heather laughingly asks, “Is dinner ready?”  Yeah, and I want to know if Tamra’s serving onion rings!

As they sit down for dinner, Tamra announces that they have a psychic that’s coming and that they’re going to bless the building…Vicki raises her glass and as part of her toast, she thanks Tamra for letting her bring Alexis along and that this is like a turning of the page – a starting off with a clean slate type of thing.  Since Tamra is incapable of acting like an adult, Tamra says that wants to be 100% honest… Tamra Blah Blah BlahTamra turns to Alexis and says point blank that she doesn’t understand why she wanted to come to the party.  Alexis honestly replies, “Tamra, if you didn’t want me to come, then you could have simply said ‘No – I don’t want to ruin it for all these people’.”  Tamra said she was a little bit blindsided by Vicki’s request for her to attend.  Vicki says that Alexis is not an evil person – and Heather puts in her two cents and says that no one is saying that she is. Unwanted Guests Vicki says that Alexis is supporting your business.  Tamra says the last she knew was that Alexis’ husband was putting it out to the world that they were going to sue Tamra – and Alexis said, “Well, it shut you up.”  Rut roh.  Tamra said, “When you go out there and you make accusations that I’m not a godly person…”  Alexis says she’s never made an accusation about Tamra but Tamra insists that she has a list of accusations she’s made.  Lydia looks like she’s going to throw up.  Alexis says to Tamra, “Did you want this to be a lovely night?  Then don’t do this here…I’ll go to lunch or dinner… I’ll do anything you want…I don’t want to ruin your party…”  Gretchen then says that if Alexis had wanted this to be a lovely night then she wouldn’t have come in the first place.  Alexis wonders why Gretchen is so worried about her being there or not – since it doesn’t concern Gretchen.  Gretchen says, “Because she [Tamra] is the person I’m concerned about.”  Alexis said, “She should have said, “No.” Alexis said it’s because she’s trying to be a friend to Vicki but that she’s not going to sit there and be ganged up on again… Gretchen suggests that Alexis leave.  Heather is not amusedHeather wants to know why Alexis is looking at Heather cuz she hasn’t said anything.  Alexis said she never even looked at Heather… Heather puts up her hand in a “talk to the hand” gesture and says an adult like, “Whatever.”  In a mocking way, Alexis says, “Oh yeah, put your hand up – that’s scary.” Stars giggled at that one.  All Lydia could say is, “Oh my goodness.”  Heather tells Alexis to stop with the bullying and Tamra and Heather cheerfully clink their glasses together as if they’ve just bullied everyone into their royal places.  Alexis says to Tamra, “If you want to have a conversation with me on a one-on-one later – I will.”  She says the same thing to Heather but Heather wants no part of it, and would Alexis stop pointing her finger at her.  Like the true, classy adult she is, Heather says this is so juvenile and that she’s done.  And because she’s an actress you know, for dramatic effect – she takes her flat outstretched palm facing towards herself and dramatically from above her head down to the table, she closes an invisible shield and says, “I just glazed.”  To further evidence her maturity level, Heather says, “By the way, I can’t even hear you anymore” while her fingers are in both ears and she’s singing  “Lalalallalala”… Wow.

Tamra says, “Listen, this is a night when I wanted to be with my closest friends and I think I’m being very gracious to allow you to step foot in here tonight.”  Alexis explained that Vicki had tears in her eyes when she asked her to come with her to tonight’s event.  We see a snippet from a previous season when they were in San Francisco and Alexis is trying to get Vicki to take some accountability for what she says, blah blah blah…  Gretchen tells Alexis that she was the leader of the pack in San Francisco and that she turned everyone against Vicki.  Okay, you guys have to pick a topic and fight about it – all these ancillary ancient situations just make my head spin.  Then they bring up Costa Rica again… holy cow… Heather tells Alexis that she has a very strange relationship with the truth… Alexis and Heather are going at it… Tamra butts in… Alexis tells her to butt out…  Tamra goes rhymingly ballistic… “Butt out? You get the f*** out…GET OUT!” Tamra throws her napkin dramatically down on the table and gets up to manhandle Alexis to get her to leave… Alexis is saying, “Don’t touch me.”  She’s gladly leaving… As Alexis leaves, Gretchen claps wildly like the lil school girl she is while saying, “Thank God – Get the negative out of here.” No wait, you’re still there, Gretchen – You’d also have to leave for the negative to even begin to get out of the room.  Alexis starts to say something but Tamra puts her fingers in her ears and shrieks, “Lalalallalala”  Wow… Alexis leaves while Tamra is still yelling “Get out!”  Then Tamra turns to Vicki and screams, “Sorry Vicki, you have to choose your side right now…if you’re going to side with her then you get the f*** out, too!”  Tamra’s DONE!  So am I…

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484 Responses to Real Housewives of Orange County – Get the F**k Out

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Happy humpdade hump day. It’s almost Friday eve so your smiles should be getting wider. I know mine is. 😀 Have a great day.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Good Morning, Powellypooh!!! It’s 48 degrees on this beautiful sunny morning. I sit at a desk on humpdays looking out the window. So to me, it’s pretty. To the people who work outdoors it’s probably a tad too windy and chilly. It’s going to be busy today…I like that.

    • Lulu says:

      Good Morning Powell!!! Sorry but will pass on the “hump” day. I know what happens when you “hump” too much 🙂

      • Powell says:

        3 more weeks, 3 more weeks! LOL Lulu.

        • Lulu says:

          LOL!! 3 weeks from tomorrow that is 🙂

          Just had a horrific swarm of yet again TERMITES!!! The management company is sending the pest control guy (again.) Yet the owner is not willing to pay the $$$ to properly kill the termites! It’s his home in the end and if he tries to sell it again he’s F’d. The longer he sits on his hands the worse the damage will become. I wonder if I can get out of my lease? This is horrible.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            OMG-3 more weeks???? The home stretch!!! WHOOO HOOOO!!!

          • Yeah for the home stretch LuLu!

            The termite problem is a health/quality of housing issue. You can call the Housing Dept. in your city and have him cited and he will have to rectify the issue if you want to deal with that. With babies in the house, he needs to do something. I had to do this once about a bee issue….swarms got IN the house. Good Luck!!

            • Lulu says:

              Finally the owner has agreed to having the house treated. TG!! I can’t imagine bringing my newborn home in this condition. Thank you for the info! I guarantee if they didn’t do something and fast that I would raise hell! I can’t imagine a bee infestation!! YIKES! That would seriously terrify me.

              • Powell says:

                Oh good. Whew.

              • Oh…good news! Glad to hear this and good for you and the babes!

                Yeah, my infamous “bee infestation” was because the owner put a new roof on…with a bees nest in the frame that he KNEW was there but did not want to bother removing…so where else would the bees go but inside the house. I was terrified. I had 3 swarms….bees all over the INSIDE of the sliding glass doors and screens and inside ceiling light fixtures. It was like a Hitchcock movie! Somehow, I managed to get pictures and went to the Housing Board who promptly cited him…and he STILL would not do anything. I ended up having to bring legal action against him, which ended in my favor…and then I moved, of course. But it was quite a nightmare and I learned a LOT about rights and actions where this stuff is concerned. That’s my “yuck” story for the day! LOL! 😕

                • Powell says:

                  Well that was very stupid of the previous owner. One of my aunts had bee infestation & a big black bird came down the chimney into the house. Scary all right. 🙂

                • Lulu says:

                  OMG!!!! that is awful!!! It’s one thing to have a nasty termite swarm. They don’t bite their just nasty but BEES!!!! If this problem is not resolved I’m sure I’ll seek legal advice!

            • Powell says:

              MarDrag I’m glad you said that. I was thinking that.

          • Powell says:

            That landlord is crazy. You have a lease no 1 & he has to take care of it. It’s his home no 2 & he will have to have a termite inspection to sell it because no buyer will get a mortgage w/o it. I guess he wants to pay $250 now vs $2500 later. Idiot. Tell him if you pay for it you’re deducting it from the rent. He has a pest infestation & you don’t want your family especially your kids around pests. And tell him your baby is due soon & you don’t want your newborn to be around any fumes. He’s a idiot.

      • TexasTart says:

        😆

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I’m trying to keep my utter joy under wraps right now for fear I might jinx the situation but here goes . . .

      In Huskerland the SUN is OUT shining BRIGHT, it’s cool (not cold) and there is a light breeze. Do I dare suggest that SPRING might be making her first appearance? Please, oh please be so!

      I work next to the football stadium in our fair city. At noon there is a city-wide walk that will be held at the stadium, so I will be heading over there and hope to complete four laps for one mile. With a sciatic nerve in my back, it’s always iffy how far I can go. The warmer weather should help though – at least psychologically!

      Happy, happy, happy Wednesday to all and don’t forget to watch the season finale of Duck Dynasty tonight!

      • Cathy Connor says:

        So glad to hear Spring peeking her pretty head out at ya there Hope she stays around this has been one long long long winter !!!

      • HuskerHuny says:

        I managed to do three laps and the walk to and from the stadium qualifies as a lap, so yes, I did a mile! My left leg was numb and my right knee cracked every step of the way, but I did it! Now back on the seated elliptical machine tomorrow!

      • Powell says:

        Husker I think Spring is waving at your fair city & saying “come on down”. That’s great. Have a fun walk. 😀

      • AZGirl says:

        HuskerHuny I have a treatment for that sciatica! Sit on an ice pack. No lie. I used to get those when I taught step. Sitting on the ice shrinks the inflammation of the nerve and pain goes away.

        • HuskerHuny says:

          I have used ice in the past but I kept it on my lower back, but you’re saying sit on it? I’m up for anything that will give me relief. Thanks for the suggestion!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Hope Mr. Sun stayed out for you all day!!! he’s going beddy bye about now, isn’t he?

  2. TexasTart says:

    ….so am I.
    Thanks for the recap, Stars! 😀

    Good day, everyone! 😀

  3. Iowagirl says:

    Untill Tamara and Gretchen are gone I will not watch the OcC girls again. You can disagree but IMO TAMARA IS A BULLY.

    • Cathy Connor says:

      She is totally the BULLY queen with ya Ms Iowagirl !!

    • austin1963 says:

      Trampra is a bully and I think she always was, way before she was on the RHoOC. It’s just who she is: a very mean, vile person. And Gretchen is right up there with her, and Heather isn’t far behind. I absolutely love “her royal Heathership”. I don’t think I’ll see Heather again without thinking of that.

      I found the behavior of those three just disgusting and demoralizing. But Trampra is definitely the worst. That gym will be bankrupt within six months.

    • Dwight Schrute says:

      From day one on the show she has constantly picked at people. She came on with Quinn and joked on and on about her being with a younger man even though she now has her Eddie. She went after Gretchen, Vicki, Alexis, and Jeanna and had Simon hauled off to jail for tossing a dog leash. I think she is the type of person who is not happy unless she has an enemy to fight with and get stirred up over. The woman courts drama.

      • pat says:

        Wow, I’d forgotten about some of that. Tamra likes to pick on the person she sees as a weak link. Hard to believe Gretchen seems to have forgotten how cruel Tamra was to her.
        I haven’t seen the whole show yet. Did Eddie really remind Tamra to flush?!? That was a joke, right?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Pat-he really did remind her to flush…apparently she isn’t used to indoor plumbing!!!

          • Contessa says:

            Jill – ….indoor plumbing – LMAO! Best line this morning. Nice that we both dislike this beyotch’s behavior.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Yes Contessa it is nice we are in agreement on the OC!!!

              • Contessa says:

                Hi Jill, I have been working on a project and haven’t been on the blog for a few days, just popped in. Wanted to congratulate you on the walk. My late Dear Dad had diabetes and can I still support your cause? XXOO

                • Contessa says:

                  Jill – let me know when you have a moment please, as I would like to support same as well. XXOO

    • realhousewifeva says:

      Just by reading the recap (great job Stars, you make it worthwhile not to watch this crap, I’m sure your recaps are more entertaining) Tamra is obviously a BULLY. She didn’t want Alexis there, especially when Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber got in her ear, so instead of asking her not to come, she says “Why are you here” to her guest? Gretchen clapped? Clinking glasses???? They are so disgusting.

      • Stars99 says:

        lol, RH-Virginia – I’m all for doing anything that will save innocent lives from unnecessarily being subjected to RHOC… lol

    • Iowagirl I’m squarely in your corner. OC is not getting my time or attention.
      But LMAO at Stars and all her comments. Thanks Stars you got me snorting at work while I read that recap.

  4. Powell says:

    Stars I’m giving you a standing ovation!!!!! I haven’t finished reading but I applaud your comparison of Heather’s high school bullying and Alexis’ OC ganging up confrontation. Just that little bit needs to be tweeted. You are a Star Stars. 🙂

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      It was perfect right??? That Starzy is a genius!!!

      • Stars99 says:

        Aww, Jill – the REAL Jill… I did nothing but use their own words against them – they kinda did it to themselves, IPPHO.

    • Trashy T says:

      I haven’t had the stomach to watch this episode after seeing the previews so I was really interested in the recap. Stars, you outdid yourself! Fabulous job. Thanks for taking one for the Lynn Fam!

      • Stars99 says:

        Awww, thanks Trashy – I think we all should get hazard pay for watching… and those who don’t should get hazard pay for having to read about it… lol

      • jules says:

        ITA Trashy! Thanks for taking the hit for the rest of us Stars. I truly cannot watch these women anymore. Even the previews make my stomach turn. I’d much rather come here and read your recaps. You somehow make even the worst of it sound funny.

        • Stars99 says:

          It’s totally understandable, Jules… I make sure I have plenty of “tums” ready for when I watch it myself… lol

    • Stars99 says:

      Awww… Powellypooh (I hear that’s what you’re called in these here parts…lol)… I honestly can’t believe that both Chumps and Gretchen only proved Alexis’ case this week…ugh…

      • Powell says:

        She sure did. I don’t believe that the three stooges(sorry Larry, Curly & Moe-love you) would be so mean & nasty if it wasn’t for Tamra. She sets the tone for the group. I wholeheartedly believe that if Miss Mature Lady Heather would have stepped in & said “Tamra & Gretchen we don’t need to be cruel, unkind to get our point across. We just want to point out that Alexis constantly talks about materialistic things & that’s a turn off”. There would have been no yelling, tears, fakeness, Alexis would not have gone home early, there would not have been more yelling & name calling at the reunion & Heather would not have been snubbed by Alexis after the show. Because of that gang up in Costa Rica its just been downhill for all of them.

    • plainviewsue says:

      I am right there with you Powell. Stars, your recap was better than the episode.

      Tamra is a disgusting piece of crap. In some ways Wretchen is even worse, cos this is someone one once was Lex’s friend. She butted in cos Tamra needed her support???? Since when.

      Why do we watch?????????????

      • Stars99 says:

        Awww, thanks Sue… I think I watch because I have masochistic tendencies and deep psychological issues. Plus it’s fun to point and snark at people who get paid to put their lives on display on TV for that very purpose.

    • It was a very good recap. I agree. You caught a lot of little hypocritical nuggets that these ladies threw out there Stars. Good job. 🙂

  5. Cathy Connor says:

    Great recap Stars… I still think Tamaras a BULLY tho we can agree to disagree Not sure the age of the people involved matters although I do see your point.. you do generally think of it as young kids which is exactly how they were acting !!! see we do agree woo hooo

    • Stars99 says:

      Cathy – I think we do agree – they’re acting like bullies and I’m ashamed of them, quite frankly. I guess when I was trying to dissect how I felt about the whole “bullying” thing… so many things sprang to my mind. The bottom line is that they’re all acting like crazy people… and I honestly don’t understand how Tamra and Heather are explaining their actions to their kids. Remember back in the day when it was total embarrassment when your mom dropped you off and kissed you right in front of school? The kids embarrassment about this must be on a whole other level…

  6. Beckygrey says:

    Perception is reality! Just because someone can’t relate to the feeling doesn’t mean the feeling doesn’t exist. Though I do agree with someone in the blog sphere, both Vickie and Lex can dish it out but can’t take it, doesn’t negate that a hostile environment exist.
    If these women don’t like each other then why care what they do, as long as they don’t do anything to you or your family. I want to just watch some beautiful homes, lives and al little cattiness, not meanness.

    • Powell says:

      Yes Becky. ITA. T, G, & H claim that Alexis is materialistic, talks about what she has, if you’ve got it you don’t have to talk about it, blah, blah, blah. If that’s what they don’t like about her say that’s what we don’t like, move on & then have a civil relationship. I don’t know what their real problem is w/her.

      • austin1963 says:

        I think sometimes there is a certain synergy that develops in a group of women that makes them need a target. I think for these three, if it wasn’t Alexis, it would be somebody else. They are just mean girls and they gotta be mean to someone. After Alexis, it will be somebody else.

        • pat says:

          ITA, Austin. And some women stand with the mean girl ring leader (Tamra) out of subconscious fear. (Gretchen.) When Tamra joined the show, Vickie was the mean girl & I think Tamra stuck with her to be protected by her.

        • I agree. It does seem that some groups have this need to bond over a common enemy and if one doesn’t show up organically they tend to manufacture it.

        • Powell says:

          Good point.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Powell-WTH is the real problem? So what she is annoying with her brand name dropping and talk of cars…call her a phony and move on-that doesn’t require an “intervention”!!!

  7. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I think I have figured out why I don’t think Alexis was “bullied” in Costa Rica-adults have the ability to tell someone to FU*K OFF when they are being harassed. She was not in danger and they were not threatening her-they were being royal bitches but not bullies-they didn’t seem to be enjoying making Alexis feel bad-well Heather and Gretchen didnt-Tamra loved it.
    I think at the dinner at Tamras dumb gym they took so much pleasure in trying to make Alexis feel foolish that they looked like bullies. To me a bully is someone who takes pleasure in making someone feel bad-so they can feel better about themselves-that’s what I saw happening at the dinner. 3 grown women taking pleasure in someone else’s pain-that makes them nasty ass bullies in my book. The word bully is used so much and some people are quick to believe they are being bullied b/c then they do not have to take any accountability for their own actions-but I don’t think that is the case with Alexis. I have not seen Alexis do anything to these 3 bitches that would make me think she deserves the treatment they are handing out. I think Tamra takes such pleasure in cutting other women down that she can’t help but do it. The other 2 harpies just go along with it b/c they are scared shitless that Tamra will turn her bitchiness on them!!

    • Cathy Connor says:

      Think you nailed all points really well Did you think that Alexis looked a little scared when Tamara approached her tho Right away said “DONT TOUCH ME ” She did come at her fast n hard You could make an arguement that even if momentarily she looks a bit scared ?

      • kendo says:

        Personally, I really think Alexis should have smacked the ____ out of her!
        Where’s the preacher from Big Rich Atlanta when you need her? I know violence is not the answer, but sometimes you just have to go there!

    • lizzle says:

      If Alexis is being bullied then she is also doing the bullying. Using the threat of a lawsuit as an intimidation tactic to “shut you up” sounds like Alexis’s definition of bullying. If you (universal you) say, well Alexis is just defending herself… then, by definition… she can’t be bullied, because she isn’t a weaker party. She is on the same playing field. If you are going by webster’s definition of bullying. So… either everyone is bullying everyone else…. or… we are watching a houswives show.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        good point, they are all bullies from time to time. Alexis is the odd man out so she gets the shaft.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I think we maybe just watching a HW show!!! I understand your points lizzle-but I’m curious as to what their behavior should be called(I’m not holding you personally responsible for an answer!!)

        • lizzle says:

          In the definition of bullying… one has to be a weaker party… that is subjective. I don’t care if people use or don’t use the word bully. It isn’t an important discussion for me… but I do understand why it is important to others. The word holds so much weight today because of the attention of childhood bullying brought out by social media and the internet. That is why it is such a point of discussion. I don’t think Alexis is being bullied because she has the ability (and has used it) to fight back with equal force. The behavior should be called: immature (JK) The words mean, intimidating and cruel are different from bullying because a strong person can be mean to another strong person. Children/ teens are different. It is their emotional immaturity that makes them weak when intimated by another child/teen. Remember being a teenager… my emotions were so heightened… so many things were the end of the world. Now as an adult…. life is good… I am not as bothered if someone doesn’t want to be my friend or if a friend doesn’t call me back, etc, etc. I don’t know if anyone is still following me with my wordiness thoughts.

          BTW… I just want all to know… if you say that Alexis is being bullied… it doesn’t really bother me. I don’t like the girl, but maybe at times, she is the weaker person intimidated by a stronger person (bullied) And in the same breath, I believe the threat of a suit to someone without the money to defend (weaker) in order to shut them up… can be considered bullying… if we all are going there.

          I am sure I have lost everyone. But thanks for listening… if you are still here.

          • Contessa says:

            Lizzle, the lawsuit threat had nothing to do with the Jesus Jugs comments, or the fiasco in Costa Rica. Trampra started calling Jim Bellino all kinds of names and inferred or said he used drugs or sold drugs. I would have to look that up. Jim Bellino had his own little blog up last year and addressed a lot of this stuff on same. Actually I was very pleasantly surprised at how well he wrote and his insight into various things. To call someone a druggie or to imply selling of drugs is a very horrible thing and I would have done the exact same and conferred with lawyers asap. The man was starting his new trampoline business that basically caters to children and here we have this idiot Trampra calling him out on drugs. I will try and look this up for the exact wording. But it had nothing to do with the tearing down of Alexis or Jesus Jugs comments. I find it interesting that Trampra called Alexis this, considering she has had so many breast enhancements and finally took them out after a cystic scare. Trampra on her early appearances was enlarging her breast, so now she can make fun of another woman’s breasts and throw in her religion? She is really the lowest of low.

            • lizzle says:

              Contessa, I understand that you don’t condone Tamara’s actions and feel like Jim and Alexis should have threatened suit. I am not arguing whether threatening the suit is right or wrong… I am responding to JNNTJ’s question of what to call the “mean” girl behavior, if we don’t call it bullying (the answer is in quotes). And in that response, I was trying to discuss my (and Webster’s) definition of bullying which uses the word “weak”… which in turn led to power dynamics… which then led to the suit. BTW… I can totally see Jim sniffing coke off his Trans Am (pre-chin plant) in the 80s. *****Disclaimer: I did not see Jim do cocaine… but I can see it in my head based on the heebee geebees that man gives me

          • designernailsdiana says:

            I was reading Kjo’s book GUTS at the gym today (I was on the treadmill). I was reading the part where she finally realizes she can speak up to her tormentor aka bully. Kjo was always called the Jolly Green Giant bc of her height. As Amy(the bully) came up behind her at lunch she started to say “How’s the…” Kjo said “Amy, I’d like to give you a helpful hint. On behalf of the entire school, I really think you should at least TRY to think of something else to say, because people are starting to wonder if maybe you’re kind of dumb.” She turned that around on her bully and found out she was funny. That changed Kjo in a positive way.
            I think if all of us headed off anyone who liked to remind us of whatever before they spoke it we’d remove their power over us.
            Alexis has the power to say YES YES I know my ring is a CZ, what else ya got, cause that’s getting old?

            • lizzle says:

              I love when people own it… it totally takes away the power from the person trying to intimidate. And I loved KJo’s book. I read it a few months ago. KJo used humor. I found out that saying “ok… whatever” and ignoring people stopped them from bullying me. A girl in middle school was telling everyone that I called her a bitch. I didn’t even know the girl. So she was telling everyone she was going to beat me up. I just said I don’t know her, whatever and when she was in the hallway one day waiting by the lockers staring me down… I ignored her and walked on by… she forgot about me, because I didn’t give it or her any attention.

              If a young lizzle and a young KJo can do it… then Alexis can do it to.

    • Powell says:

      JNNTJ I like how you described both situations. From your description it seems that what happened in Costa Rica has now been amplified into bullying at Tamra’s dinner & now months later after is was filmed Tamra was on WWHL on Sunday & hasn’t changed her mind & continues to think what she’s done is ok. I hope that Bravo & Andy reads this today & takes it seriously that we don’t like it and Tamra needs to be gone next season.

      • Contessa says:

        Powell, Dandy Andy won’t take this seriously because of the ratings. If the ratings go down than he and his bosses will have to look at it. However he was seriously listening to Dr. V and I think he addressed something positive with regard to the bad treatment of Alexis, on his twitter after the show. I don’t know how to go about looking up older twitter lines so if anyone out here does – can you look at it and see if I am correct. It seemed to me that Andy was not all that into Trampra on WWHL. Also she pointed out that he was moody and he didn’t seem to like that as well. I think Andy has probably been in therapy and he respects Dr. V and it appeared to me he was really letting Dr. V go on, when he usually cuts people off to go onto the next subject.

        • kendo says:

          Andy did give her a strange look, when she said she was being paid big bucks to bring it!
          Not her exact words.

        • austin1963 says:

          I enjoy a little drama on television as much as the next girl, thus my HW guilty pleasure, but this is downright uncomfortable to watch. If this continues at this level, I can’t imagine that ratings will stay up. Of course, who knows? Maybe they will. What do I know. I only know that I am uncomfortable with that level of nastiness.

    • realhousewifeva says:

      From google:
      “Social bullying, sometimes referred to as relational bullying, involves hurting someone’s reputation or relationships. Social bullying includes:
      Leaving someone out on purpose
      Telling others not to be friends with someone
      Spreading rumors about someone
      Embarrassing someone in public”

      I do think these ladies are an adult form of bullies (also known as mean bitches) because they have done everything to embarrass Alexis, from twitter to the reunion they pulled out everything they could do embarrass her. Calling her husband a drug dealer, Jesus Jugs, bringing the paperwork from Fox Five to make her feel bad about herself, etc.
      In an interview with AllaboutTRH Tamra says that her and Gretchen argue later in the season because Tamra invites Alexis to an event and Gretchen doesn’t want anyone to invite Alexis to stuff. They purposely wanted to leave her out of everything in hopes to ostracize her and get her off the show. When Alexis first decided to leave the show last season, they were all over twitter celebrating and saying she got fired..they were so upset when she came back. Why do they want to destroy her so badly? That is a bully to me. The girl is an airhead and maybe pretentious, but she seems so harmless to me.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        (Also known as mean bitches)…my fave part of your comment!!!!

        • Powell says:

          Mine to. Realhousewifeva what you posted is just sad. All of those things listed are what could happen to Tamra’s daughters in school. I keep going back to that because I.just don’t understand how a mom of kids, especially girls can do this to another woman. What is Tamra going to say to her girls if this happens to them? What would she say to those girls mothers? She’s doing this. How could she say to those girls mothers “look at what your daughters are doing to my daughter. It’s wrong.”. But how could it be wrong for girls to do it to her daughters if she can do it? Why doesn’t she see it.

          • Realhousewifeva says:

            Powell, as a mother of 3 girls that is EXACTLY why this bothers me so much! Tamra is so proud of her ugly behavior.

      • lizzle says:

        Now I feel like I bullied Adrienne. Maybe I need to watch what I say about these circus freaks… I mean.. reality stars. Are we immune to bullying here at the blog or can we be accused of joining in the mass histeria and consequently ruining someone’s rep?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          The way I see it lizzle is that they put themselves out there to be judged by us-the viewer-it’s up to them to behave this way or that. If they behave badly it’s not our job to figure out why and try to justify it-it’s our job to snark and judge…that’s show biz!!!!

          • lizzle says:

            OK… I feel better now… I will now try to refine my snark and continue to judge harshly 🙂 I don’t think I would watch if I couldn’t make a little fun of these ladies and gentlemen.

        • Realhousewifeva says:

          They are coworkers and forced to interact. And even when she wasnt going to return, the witches were attacking her on twitter. It’s one thing for us to say tamra or Alexis suck or whatever, but another when people do anything they can on social media, interviews, etc to try and ruin your reputation. I read it myself when tamra tweeted about Jim selling drugs (not just doing drugs, but selling them). That’s a pretty hefty accusation. What the hell did Alexis do to deserve that? Be annoying? Be phony? She was always cordial to tamra from what i saw. Tamra practically tried to get her son to rape Gretchen, but Alexis is the awful one? Call it what you want, bully, aggressor, attacker… Whatever… Their behavior has gone overboard in my opinion. And I don’t even like Alexis! I dot like any of them, but she is the least offensive to me. That’s why I can’t watch it

  8. Obsessed w RH says:

    Morning all! Finally a sunny day here in NY. I wanted to put this out there because it seems like I am in the minority and that is fine but I really don’t have a major problem with Heather. I think she is lumped into the Tamra/Gretchen category because she agreed with the topic in Costa Rica of Alexis coming across as materialistic and fixated on money and spoke to it. People say that Heather is pompous and pretentious and snotty but maybe I just have a different perspective because in NY, at least in my experience, Heather is just telling it like it is. She was clear, concise and I thought she did an excellent job of articulating herself as she does normally. I find her to be quite humorous and I find her relationship with Terry very similar to that of my husband and I. People lambasted her about the onion rings issue and I even asked my husband what he thought was going on in that circumstance and he said “very simply he’s just busting her balls,” and I completely agree. My husband does stuff like that all the time because he likes to get a rise out of me. Just because she knew he was trying to goad her and called him out on that she is labeled as a horrible wife and that she doesn’t love her husband. Give me a break I just don’t agree with this. I personally think they have a marriage that is based on mutual respect.

    I will say that I think there is a significant difference between what Alexis experienced and what true bullying is. I am beginning to hate that word because it is so overused. Just because someone raises their voice to you while speaking to you does not automatically mean that you are being bullied. Alexis is PAID to be on this show and if she TRULY felt uncomfortable or bullied to the point that people who are REALLY bullied feel, then she simply could have left the show. Evidently she and Jimblob were paying their bills (kinda) before the show, and so she could figure out a way to pay her bills after the show if she was really a subject of bullying and felt uncomfortable. Please don’t try to tell me that this is the only job she can get or the only way she can make a living because there are plenty of avenues she could explore to get a paycheck. Career? Maybe not but a paycheck, yes she could find an alternative.

    Now, in last night’s episode I think that Heather was being a tad juvenile but I kind of see why because if I were constantly dealing with Alexis who cries foul the minute someone disagrees with her I might lose my cool and not act like the best adult at every moment. We’re all human and we make mistakes. I personally think Heather is a good addition to the cast and her “NY-ness” (or at least what I think it is) is a stark contrast to the ways of the OC ladies and so I think the dichotomy of it highlights the differences even greater and makes what may look to some as normal, look pompous, arrogant or whatever. Bottom line is Heather has the goods to back of her pretention….this show was supposed to be about wealthy folks and she definitely has the $$ so I guess I don’t see the pretention as SO egregious like many people.

    Hope I haven’t caused anarchy with my post!!!

    • lizzle says:

      I agree with you about Heather. Also, she has every right to be upset with Alexis. After the reunion last year, Heather apologized to her and they hugged it out after having a heart to heart conversation. They agreed to try to be nice to one another and start over. Heather ran into Alexis and Jim at a restaurant and said hello and was going to speak with them, but they ignored her and scurried away. Of course, it wasn’t on camera… that would ruin the image she is trying to portray. Alexis reeks of phony and Jim makes every cell in my skin crawl. I like Heather and Terry. I mean who would you rather hang out with… the fun loving and truly wealthy couple, Heather and Terry… or the grumpy, crying foul, credit extended Jim and Alexis.

      • Powell says:

        I wouldn’t want to hang out w/any of them. I’d rather stick a needle in my eye. NJ & OC are a tie on that.

      • kit9 says:

        I don’t believe Heather for a second on this. No way Alexis would ignore her is she actually was civil to her. My guess is Alex was perfectly cordial but Heather is angry she didn’t slobber over her deigning to talk to her. And, who could blame Alexis for not addressing her with unbridled joy? Remember, not only was Heather nasty to her but Heather’s douche of a husband got in on the drama, too. Remember at the finale the crap he pulled with Jim? Heather’s an as*hole. Her behavior a the dinner Monday was infantile. Completely infantile. Alexis has done nothing to deserve such treatment from Heather. Nothing. Heather is the last person to be calling someone out on being materialistic. There was the segment last season where she lets us know that they’re going to be dropping 10k on clothes for her husband. Then, there’s the fact that she needs a new house for a new baby despite living in a mansion. And, her husband! What a gossipy creep he is! And, his dismissive superior attitude about the cover…’well, sniff, if it’s not the cover, why bother?’ UGH. Dude, your practice is in such a sad state that you’ve done, not one but two reality shows, you are in no position to turn up your nose at a non-cover profile. Oh, and they lied. Apparently the DID accept a non cover shoot of their house.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I totally respect your opinion-I don’t think Heather treats her husband any worse than I would treat mine if he “busted my balls” in the same way Terry does. He was being annoying and thought he was being funny-my husband gets confused this way often!!

      The thing about Heather that I don’t care for is that she thinks if you have as much money as she does you can be as materialistic as you want-but if you don’t then she will call you on it. I know lots of broke ass folks who are materialistic!!! Pretension, to me is annoying-no matter if you have the goods or not. I think I would like her more if she would just be herself and not follow Tamra and her classless ways!!

      • Obsessed w RH says:

        Jill I guess I don’t see her as materialistic. I don’t hear her talk about labels or what things cost or what she wears etc so that is what I think of when I think of “materialistic”….and yet I can’t get the image out of my head about Alexis rattling off the cars that she and Jim have AND the names and models. Like for ex., when Heather said “would you like some champs?” She didn’t say “would you like some Veuve Cliquot?” or when she wore the Chanel bag to the beach in costa rica she didn’t say “Do you Like/See my Chanel bag?” I may be missing something but you know what they say, we can all see the same thing and take very different things away from it!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Obsessed-you are right-she doesn’t drop designer names but her pretension to me is annoying-I should have stuck to that b/c materialistic is not the right word for her.

          • Obsessed w RH says:

            Now if only those broads on the show could calmly/rationally and politely disagree with each other and speak to one another like we all do on this blog maybe they wouldn’t have these issues!!!!

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              But in the words of the women on these shows…THAT WOULD BE BORING!! If I read one more time that it would be boring to see grown women getting along and supporting each other I will scream. I want to see that-I want to see shopping trips and lunches at places I could never go-exotic vacations and elegant dinners…

              • Obsessed w RH says:

                I agree Jill. There can be other “drama” that would grip audiences without the yelling and screaming bs between people. Just the natural drama of their lives, going to work, kids going to college, running businesses etc…..I blame Andy Cohen.

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  Obsessed-right? I wouldn’t mind some real unmanufactured drama-you know-everyday BS that is relatable-but I’m tired of this made up half assed crap.

              • Cathy Connor says:

                Or could you imagine how much awareness they could bring to issues and charities ,current issues the ideas could be endless

              • Powell says:

                I don’t know why they don’t get that that’s what we want to see. I remember S1OC they were playing tennis at the country club, going shopping, going out to lunch, having dinner at each other’s homes & yes getting on each other’s nerves & getting made at one another. There were no Bs, no name calling, no throwing wine at each other, no ganging up on one person. The show was just fun. The only thing from the beginning was Vicki’s mantra that she was the only one that worked. That got old real fast.

              • Contessa says:

                YES,YES and YES!

              • Just Wondering in Jersey says:

                I’ll drink to that. Enough with the nonsense. We want escapism TV NOW. Can you hear me Bravo?

            • Powell says:

              Boy oh boy Obsessed you are so right. 🙂

        • Powell says:

          I don’t think Heather is materialistic. She doesn’t talk about things, whereas Alexis does & I don’t like that but don’t hate her for it. I don’t like Heather calling champagne champs but that’s her thing. Out of all the ladies Heather is the only one that doesn’t talk about “things” she & Terry have. Out of all the HWs Camille, JZ & DeShawn if you remember her 1st season ATL were the most materialistic.

          • Obsessed w RH says:

            Yes I do remember Camille and JZ always talking about THINGS, and names and labels and prices and it INFURIATED me because it reminds me of my Mother in law……”did ya see my new GUCCI BAAEEEHHGGG and my Burbbbberry SHOESSS” when I didn’t even ASK her about the bag let alone LOOKED at the item (she’s from Long Island…sorry to those I may have offended but that’s how she speaks!)

            My fav was when she called us on Xmas morning and directly asked my husband what he bought me for Christmas…….STILL smh.

        • realhousewifeva says:

          No, heather’s not materialistic at all…the fact that her 16 million dollar home was too small for her 4th child is not materialistic at all.

          • kit9 says:

            Yah, and Heather totally didn’t have a segment at a men’s store last season telling us how much she was going to be spending(thousands) on clothes for her wormy husband. Oh, wait….

      • Powell says:

        Right I would probably give her a chance if she didn’t follow twiddle dee & twiddle dumb or are they heckle & jeckle?

      • Catseye says:

        I agree with you Jill. I CANNOT STAND Heather. Or Terry. Last season they didn’t even know Alexis and were ridiculing her for getting a nose job. Right. Like Terry doesn’t pay their bills off of people like her, who want to improve their looks? Jeez. And yes, my impression of Heather is that she is VERY materialistic and likes to show off. I have noticed that she usually does have a different designer handbag on display every week. And she’s also a LIAR. She lied about Terry not making fun of Alexis for getting nose surgery, when he obviously was. She lied about not having “A NANNY” when in reality she has 2, plus a housekeeper. I find her OBNOXIOUS.

        • Catseye says:

          Oh, and I almost forgot another one of Heather’s LIES. Where is the Facebook Page that all of the Nordstrom employees cite instances of the rudeness they have endured, when waiting on Alexis?

        • pat says:

          Heather is all about appearances. She might not talk about it, but she’s as into material possessions as the rest of them. Which if u have the $ & that’s how you want to roll I don’t have a problem with it. I do have a hard time believing that they weren’t in over their heads on that “billionaire row” home. Plastic surgeons do very well, but not that well.

        • kit9 says:

          Oh, and thank you for bringing up Terry’s comments about Alexis’ surgery. I’d forgotten about the, That was wrong on so many levels. SO inappropriate as a professional to be making snark on a woman getting work done like that. He knew nothing of her case and for him to be commenting was so gross.

    • austin1963 says:

      A tad. . .? Interesting.

      I don’t think Heather is any better than the other two, but as someone else said, she just has a bigger vocabulary. And a finer pedigree. Which IMO, almost makes her worse. As if anyone could be worse than Trampra.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        Although I don’t agree with you Obsessed, you stated your position quite well and calmly and I really like that!

        As for who is pretentious, THEY ALL ARE!!! C’mon Heather, last year you bemoaned the fact that your house wasn’t big enough for your family of six. Seriously? You have a huge home that would suit the Duggar family. I have a family of five and we managed in a 1,200 square foot house with one bathroom.

        Is Alexis pretentious? Yes, but in a different way. I think she says things as a defense mechanism so she can feel that she belongs in this group of harpies. She doesn’t have a mean bone in her body, but I do believe she has image issues and probably feels very insecure with this group. She’s just trying to fit in and yes, that can be annoying to hear. But it doesn’t deserve the many attacks that she’s is getting from people who act and say far worse things than she does and they do it on purpose!

        Differences of opinions are great and when said in an adult manner with no snideness (new word!), it can make a lot of situations much better. Tamra, Gretchen and Heather just refuse to see how they are coming off to the general public and that’s on them, not Alexis.

        • Obsessed w RH says:

          Husker I think that was a great characterization. Very true they are all pretentious and I think you’re right, Alexis tries to BE pretentious to “fit in” but comes across as materialistic because she seems to equate pretention with “materiality” and “labels.”

          It seems Heather has realized how she has come off to the public since she has made amends with Alexis since filming. Their beef it seems happened off camera when one was throwing “shade” as they say in ATL at the other for the acting career and one retaliating with the materialism comments.

          • HuskerHuny says:

            BINGO! We have a winner! I totally agree with this assessment. See, two different opinions stated and one solution for both. So nice to talk to you today Obsessed.

        • Powell says:

          Husjer never thought about Alexis talking about things is her way of fitting in. I think you’ve got it Sherlock!! 🙂

    • Powell says:

      I agree w/you about Heather up to a point. She did say what she wanted calmly, concise & not in a mean manner but & I guess this is the lumping in point, as especially Tamra yells at Alexis, calls her stupid, rediculous & other names Heather jumps on the bandwagon agreeing, shaking her head in agreement. Heather being the sophisticated could have shut the whole thing down in Costa Rica. She’s suppose to be the level headed one. All she had to do was talk Tamra down a couple of notches & Tamra wouldn’t have kept escalating it & then twiddle dumb Gretchen would not have kept turning it up. Gretchen started out calm too but got louder & accusatory as Tamra did. Heather is snooty. I believe Heather & Terry love each other. As far as the onion rings she just got on my damn nerves. It’s a clam back. Give the man onion rings if he wants them. It wasn’t a 9 course meal being served.

      • Obsessed w RH says:

        Powell I don’t believe I remember Heather calling Alexis names or yelling at her. You are probably right that she was shaking her head in agreement. As far as the onion ring thing my take on it is if he really asked for them and really wanted them vs just asking her to bust her chops I’m sure she would have given them to him but I think it was obvious he was saying it to get a rise out of her, not saying it in a “hun I really want onion rings please serve them” kind of way….but again, potato po-tah-to!

        • Dixie says:

          I can’t get past her telling Alexis at the reunion last year that if everyone says you are dead, lie down. She said that after she, Gretchen and Tamara said that Alexis was rude to production, Nordstrom, etc. However, both production and Nordstrom later said that it was not true, so we have Heather basically saying if we say it so, then it is so. May not be bullying, but it is definitely some arrogant behavior.

          • Powell says:

            Yeah I remember that line. Heather can’t talk about being rude to staff. How many
            times did she return food when she & Terry went out? How about the dirty look she gave the waiter/waitress when he/sheaked if she wanted something to drink saying “she hates that because she feels they are rushing her” or something to that affect. That person was doing their job politely.

          • Catseye says:

            Oops! I should’ve read before posting about Nordstrom. And yes, that “dead” comment was very rude. Especially for someone who is supposed to be so refined and educated.

    • Powell says:

      And I don’t feel Heather is pretentious in a monetary way. She told us about her home, showed us a few rooms & the property. That’s what she’s suppose to do & I love her home. She’s pretentious in the sense that she thinks she’s above them, better than them. Her first season she said to the viewers she doesn’t know them & didn’t want them in her home. Well they’re your castmates. They’re not people of the street. That’s what the show is about. Remember the tea party/painting party?? She had it at the biz cause she didn’t want them in her home. Ok she eventually let Gretchen come over & then has had parties but its things like that that I feel are pretentious.

  9. lizzle says:

    Good morning!

    I know I am in the minority, but I do not like Alexis… and I never will. It is pointless to give the reasons, because there are such strong feelings about the OC. I ain’t changin nobody’s mind… LOL

    • Obsessed w RH says:

      Lizzle, I agree with you. I never liked her and this “woe is me” i’ve been bullied role that she has stepped into has just infuriated me more with her.

      • chismosa says:

        that’s kind of what Dr. V said on WWH Monday night…..

        • lizzle says:

          Dr V is against labels… she thinks people use them as an excuse for their behavior. She says clients come in wanting to be diagnosed as a narcissist so their behavior will be excused… but she ends up telling them, no.. you aren’t a narcissist… you are just an asshole… LOL If Alexis wants to play the “woe as me” role, then she will always be a victim. I think her problem is that she doesn’t know who she is and playing victim is at least fufulling some sort of role.

          • chismosa says:

            Right, gotcha. Falling back on the label to just excuse yourself. So dr V was right

            I sort of wish I watched LA Shrinks a bit. I love therapy lol That Jeff Lewis guy seemed odd. Was he gay? I thought I saw the finale and he was kissing a quite older man, didnt know what was going on.
            And I would have loved to learn what the “V” stands for haha

            • iceNfire says:

              wait – Jeff Lewis was on LA Shrinks? Recently?

            • lizzle says:

              Jeff Lewis guy is gay and has been with his partner (with the grey hair man) for 20 years?.. well, a long time… and they are planning a wedding. They have an open relationship, BTW… and his first client, a heterosexual woman, was also in an open relationship… maybe it’s an LA thing. Just kidding.. I am sure people in many places are in an open relationship.

              BTW… Dr V stands for Venus. Her name is Venus…. for reals. I watch it on the interwebs

              • chismosa says:

                Lizzle— wow!! Thanks for the info!

                Venus was her name ??? What is her last name? I will google 😜

      • Powell says:

        I like Alexis but not everything about her just like so many other HWs I like. I don’t like the “woe is me” from Alexis. I don’t have the foggiest idea why she would come back to the vipers den of the OC. She doesn’t deserve what she gets because she did come back which is basically what T, G & H were saying to her at the party. Since she decided to come back she’s just going to have to handle it & cut them down to put a stop to the constant gang ups.

    • austin1963 says:

      I have never had any great love for Alexis, and Jim makes my skin crawl. Nonetheless, it doesn’t excuse the behavior of three of the other women towards her (and I don’t think you’re saying it does). I don’t have to like a person to see that they are being treated unfairly.

    • Dwight Schrute says:

      I don’t think that Alexis is all that likeable, either. Face it, no one on this cast is. I just think that lately, she’s been the least reprehensible person there. That’s faint praise, I know, but the actions of the others have given me a little sympathy for her.

    • pat says:

      Alexis is a big phony bologna. But I don’t think she deserves to be ganged up on and attacked by the mean girl trio.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Lizzle, I don’t like her either…especially her husband but I think she is the best of the worst.

  10. Lulu says:

    Stars99 WELL PUT! My summary:

    Gretchen- She reminded me of when Omarosa had her “tearful” moment on Celebrity apprentice. The cracking of the voice but alas no tears. I thought her “lunchtime” bullying comparison summed her up well. An idiot with no substance or thoughts of her own. Can’t believe how far up Tamra’s @ss she is this season. I honestly don’t know why Bravo brought her back she brings nothing to the table. Watching a follower is boring.

    Tamra–Words fail me. I hope she realizes as a business owner that she alone is the factor that will destroy it. What a nasty and vile person. Bravo jumped the shark with her this season. At least when she was with Simon she was a bit reserved. Now she is showing her true colors. I can’t imagine the abuse her children suffer from her. Too sad I hope majority of their time is spent with Simon.

    Alexis– Very proud of her she stood her ground very well! It’s sad how jealous the others aside from Vicki, Lydia are of her.

    Heather-Why is she on the show???? She brings nothing to it. She is an embarrassment to the Jewish community. In fact I’m liking the one who shall not me named more.

    • Stars99 says:

      lol Lulu at the Omarosa comparison… It’s odd to me that most of these women are on the show, quite frankly – because while Vicki and Heather (and now Lydia) do seem to have some money, Gretchen, Alexis and Tamra are not very well off by OC standards… Although, it does cost quite a bit to live in the OC… even when you’re renting… but still… This franchise has been able to replace several cast members over the years and this is the best they could come up with? Sad, sad, sad….

      • Lulu says:

        That’s what I was thinking too. Gretchen has the least that’s for sure. Tamra and the tags on the dresses? Tell tale sign she returns everything she wears on the show. Maybe that is why she got so pissy with Eddie. He exposed her.

        What gets me is that the show is called “housewives” Yet so many of the women are not. There not even married and I don’t count “live in” boyfriends either. If Bravo is going to shove these women down our throats then shouldn’t the playing field be equal? Married or engaged to be married upcoming. Shouldn’t that be a requirement?

        • LaineyLainey says:

          They should all be in their last trimester; then we’d have a freakin’ show!!!

          • iceNfire says:

            That is a good idea Lainey! HW’s with hormones raging no need for production to set up anything – btw Lainey – who is ms. chloe?

            • ladebra says:

              OMG Ms Chloe was a pay-per-call psychic back in the early 2000’s or around there. You call her and pay by the minute and she would tell your fortune. And she was outed as a total scam artist, albeit fancy scam artist with TV commercials. I’m stealing “you chloed my mind” lol

          • Lulu says:

            LOL!!! that would be worth watching!

        • Powell says:

          Nope just 2 are & now Lydia.

    • Powell says:

      I think Gretchen is very scared to not be Tamra’s friend that’s why she’s up her patootie. She doesn’t want to be back where Alexis is. But it proves that she just used Alexis & was never really her friend.

      • Lulu says:

        Very true. But as we all know Tamra’s loyalty lies with who can help her storyline become “relevant.” Once she has no use for Gretchen it’s bye bye! I think the reasoning behind befriending her is to get more dirt on her. Tamra was losing fuel prior to befriending her. Now she knows lots and will use it against her. What an idiot!

        • iceNfire says:

          I think Tamra befriended G b/c she didn’t want to be associated with Brooks…none of them did so it was an easy move for her to make

          • pat says:

            I wonder is brooks is going to appear on the show this season.

            • Lulu says:

              I hope not he is creepy. Wouldn’t that clue in Vicki that something is off about her BF? No one wants to be around him??

              As for the Tamra/Gretchen love fest. Their days were numbered and they new it it’s all about storylines. But I just don’t see Bravo keeping Gretchen she really has no relevance on the show.

    • nyc mama says:

      Why would Heather’s bad behavior be an embarassment to the Jewish community or have any reflection on it at all?. She is no more representative of the Jewish community at large than let’s say Tamra or Gretchen are of the Christian community so why would anyone make a judgement about Jews based on Heather or even Jill? Kenya doesn’t represent the Black community so there is no need for them to be embarassed by her;. Teresa doesn’t represent the Italian-America community etc.
      They only ones they represent are themselves.
      I never get why that comment comes up with certain people and cultures but never others.

  11. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I need to start my cleaning-I’m going to try Lainey’s method of setting the timer…starting now!!!!!

  12. Good Morning Lovelies! Happy middle of the week day! 😀

    Stars99 – your recap is wonderful! And funny! I was going to copy my favorite lines here, but there are too many. Can I just say that…I appreciate you writing the recap because…as much as I said I would try to watch…I.Just.Can’t!! I have not watched one moment and by all the comments and your recap, I am glad I haven’t. These women are terrible! I guess the reason I feel so strongly is that I started out my HW viewing with the very beginning of the OC shows when it was still fun and the premise was really “watching affluent lifestyles”. But this? This is NOT that!! Anyway…love reading your words and getting the scoop through your humor!

    And speaking of Humor..Yeah…the Humor Blog is back this week at my place! Enjoy!
    http://fromthedeskofmardrag.wordpress.com/

    • Stars99 says:

      Awww, Barney, I understand not being able to watch, really I do… It’s really hard to watch grown women act this way. I’m still light headed from watching myself… save yourself… run from this franchise! lolol

  13. Dwight Schrute says:

    AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

    I’m so sick of all this artificial drama. All this going on about why is Alexis there, why is Lydia there, etc. is ridiculous and insulting to the viewer. They are there because Bravo wants them there and, very likely, Bravo paid for the party.

    It was the same fake drama as last year about Sara Winchester (?) being brought uninvited to Heather’s party by Alexis.

  14. Obsessed w RH says:

    It’s really too bad Tamra has to scream and yell like a banshee and couldn’t have just stfu last night and said “ok alexis yes let’s do lunch and figure this out,” because when she is not being an asshat I actually find Tamra funny but last night was like watching a car accident, i’m like NO NO TAMRA NO!

    • iceNfire says:

      idk why she behaved like that either, what was the point? what was the point? what did she achieve?

      • LaineyLainey says:

        What did she achieve? …being the center of attention…it’s what she does. Watch her, if someone is filming a scene that she’s not part of…she starts hyperventilating and fidgeting UNTIL the camera IS ON HER.

        • iceNfire says:

          Yes after big fight with Icky last season and Bri was trying to speak Tam interrupted with “my heart is pounding”….i wish i could apply my elephant memory to more important things in my life 🙂 … Lainey – who is ms. chloe?

        • austin1963 says:

          Bingo!

  15. BB says:

    If Grimmeth Palthrowup is the most beautiful woman in the world, then my idea of beauty is definitely screwed up. She’s not ugly, but out of all the beautiful women out there to pick from, People picked her? I think they picked her because she’s controversial and they want to create a stir, ala Bravo. The guy from People magazine pretty much admitted it on Good Morning America. I wish she would move her condescending self to the English countryside and disappear from the public eye.

    • lizzle says:

      She is on some list of the most hated celebrities (along with Leann Rimes)… actually, I think she was #1, but don’t hold me to it. When I heard about this I was like “No Way!” Everyone likes Gwenyth Paltrow… this can’t be right. But after reading your comment, I realize that not everyone likes her and some despise her. LOL I read somewhere that some of her recipes in her new cookbook cost $300 to make (that’s one meal)

      But, I do think she is naturally pretty. She isn’t too made up or plastic.

      • chismosa says:

        She is #1 according to Star. It was last week. It was awesome.
        She’s been hated for quite a while now, starting with many quotes of hers from years back about how things are so ‘whatever whatever’ in America whereas in the UK she can ….. — i.e. saying things are so much better there.
        Just google— it’s been years that people started to not like her ‘persona’. It’s very oh so Anne-Hathahater-ish. lol

        I think they did this as a poor mistake, she has a new book out and is all over doing interviews. She’s still an idiot.

        i think without mascara or any color to her face she is not the most beautiful. She used to do too many fillers and now stopped. Big woop!?
        People is notorious for mistakes, remember when Ryan Gosling was NOT named the hottest man and people picketed in front of People’s offices on 6th avenue in NYC because they chose Bradley Cooper instead. ha ha!

        She’s a pretentious conceited jewish-wasp who’d be nowhere without her parents (just like Hathahater). Nexxxxxxxxxt

        • I’m not even going to get into my personal opinion on Gwenyth, BUT she is an accomplished actress with an Academy Award. Maybe her industry connections helped her get a start, but her parents didn’t act for her. She has accomplishments to her own credit. Also – and this really bothers me – why bring out the jewish-wasp thing? What does that have to do with anything? It smacks of intolerance and bigotry.

          I’ve enjoyed this blog – but sometimes it turns from fun snark to hateful. And honestly – some of the commenters here are just as nasty when discussing the housewives as the housewives are discussing each other! It astounds me!

          Maybe someone might tell me if I don’t like it – don’t read it. Or someone might ask me, why do I come here then? Well after the recent events in Boston, honestly I’m asking myself that same question.

          For all the complaining about the bad behavior and nasty language that goes on on these shows – some of the language here in discussing them is just as vile. I can handle funny snark but the base name-calling, especially that kind that is based on someone’s religious or ethnic background – it’s upsetting.

          Can’t we find another way to express ourselves without reverting to hateful language?

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Brigid-I would never ask “why do you come here” -we all come here for different reason. If you are upset about some of the things we say about the HWs just try to remember all the wonderful things we say about each other. There is now and will always be more love and care on this blog than hate. If we trash a HW or 2… scroll down and I bet you will read about us lifting each other up-offering prayers or support or hugs. Most of us do get a bit passionate about the ones we love to love or the ones we love to hate-but in the end we would never speak to each other the we speak about the characters that are HWs.

            • Sure I get that. Thanks for the reminder Jill. But personally I feel calling someone a “jewish-wasp” in a negative way is not dissimilar from using a racial slur. Sometimes it gets out of hand round here. ((hugs))

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Great comment, Brigid! I don’t really like to be scolded here, and I think you managed to share your feelings and opinion without being too scoldy. I can be mean, I realize that. Am I too mean? Have I crossed the line? You can be honest. I’m trying to gauge what you mean by hateful vs. Snarky. It is a very fine line, I think. Does it offend you when I say “TamRat” or “Wretched” or “Trampon” or “Retching”….? I can do better. I was on a roll…and what’s funny (or not) is that I DON’T EVEN WATCH THAT SHOW!!!

            Oh and by the way, I am a Gwyneth fan. Not that it matters, I guess. But I get what you’re saying about how SHE earned her accolades. SHE got her foot in the door with her connections, but she has proven herself as an actress. I love it that she’s fluent in other languages. I’ve heard her speak Spanish and the girl is FLUENT. She speaks Castillian beautifully. I sound like an idiot when I try to speak Castillian.

            I’m sorry you’re upset by some of the discussions here. Perhaps there are certain commenters you should avoid reading if they upset you? There is a commenter here that I have little or no contact with because that person is (in my opinion) unpredictable and too easily offended and then reacts rather childishly instead of just working things out. Not everyone gets along well in real life and I suppose this board is a reflection of “real life, real time” – we can’t like everyone, we can’t be compatible with everyone; but we can certainly try try try to respect one another. And if that doesn’t work, we can avoid getting sucked into feeling badly by staying away from those who we find offensive. Hopefully the whole board isn’t constantly offensive to you, hopefully it’s just an occasional thing. But you of course, only you can be the judge of that. Thanks for your honesty. I like you and hope you don’t leave.

            • Thanks Lainey. I’m not trying to flounce off and I’m sure Chismosa didn’t mean to come off bigoted – But it was really the “jewish-wasp” thing that threw me over the edge. I just think it’s one step shy of calling one of the Atlanta women the “n-word”. I really do. I think if we are going to engage in judging someone it should be for the content of their character and their actions. Not their looks, their race, their religion or sexual orientation. I don’t mean to come off pretentious or scoldy I just think why not hold ourselves to a higher standard? I dunno, rambling now. Boston happened because of hate and bigotry. My receptors are all wonky at the moment.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                You make really good sense, Brigid. The “jewish-wasp” thing…That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for you. I totally get it. I’m sure Chismosa didn’t mean to come off that way. She’s one of the good guys (in my book) she’ll own it either way. Love what you said about judging these ladies or whomever is the topic of discussion by the “content of their character and their actions.” That shows that You’re one of the “good guys” too. 🙂

              • Powell says:

                You make very good points. Can we hug it out now? Please? 🙂

              • chismosa says:

                i have never, in all my years of school and reading and whatever- heard the term WASP or Jewish to be a connotation of the horrific horrendous N-word. So am i living in a different galaxy?
                Like i said below— if i said this person was Indian-Hindu or Chinese-Catholic- i mean WTF? I don’t get it? Let’s not bring the N-word into here.
                Again, not on me- so i guess i’m Twilight Zoning or something.

                And Lainey- i speak 4 languages, working to get to 5 and 6- but i didn’t have the immense financial support of two superstar parents to send me to the highest quality schools! She’s the poster girl of Entitlement. And what i love is that she doesn’t GET that. Or doesn’t care. (Yes i got myself a nice full scholarship somewhere but still…. )
                Dios mio!!!

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  I’m impressed, chismosa. What are your languages…let me guess, English, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian? Or is it French and Italian? I love language(s).

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  Chimosa-I don’t think saying Jewish or wasp is even close to saying the n word-it is a lot more than a step away. I didn’t pipe in about that b/c I knew when you read it you would defend yourself about it better than I would have!!

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    I piped in because what’s the point of having a pipe if you’re not gonna pipe in. jk I piped in because I wondered if there were other comments that had been offensive today. I wanted to know if I, myself, had crossed the line.

                • Nope not the words themselves – using it in negative context was my point. It came off as if there is something wrong with being a jewish-wasp. It came off as being presented as another reason to dislike her. That was my point.

                • To answer your question yes I would have disliked the comment just as much with the use of Indian-Hindu or Chinese-Catholic. Your statement was presented as a litany of reasons to dislike her. Including ethnic and religious facts in that litany suggests that you find those things to be distasteful as well.

        • chismosa says:

          Brigid ^^^ — i’m just going to respond here rather than directly below you so as to not make this anorexic and skinny—

          I mention the Jewish Wasp thing because she is both- what is wrong with that? It’s like saying she is blonde and blue eyed? Or Italian and Hindu? Both facts. She loves to say all this cute jewish stuff she learned from her dad and her beloved grandmother whom she called a c-u- next tuesday on tv. She falls back on this ‘cultural’ stuff as her clutch to be somewhat more approachable to the public —-when all she does is eat lettuce and juice cleanses and dances 3 hours a day to Tracey Anderson workouts. And then uses all that to promote a new book because she had “to heal herself” from problems, which IMO she put on herself- all her deficiencies!
          The Wasp thing figures because it is also part of her background growing up in a very high end esteemed hard-to-enter school and social world in NYC and California. These are her two personas. She’s Ralph Lauren high end/ hoity-toity as well as Ralph Lifshitz who is downtown cool, hip, you can relate to, and speak fun yiddish idioms with. That is who she is- what is wrong with stating someone’s background? You want to say “intolerant and bigot”- that’s your call. I live in one of the most heavily (via census) Jewish populated areas of New York and have Jewish friends. I also have WASP friends. This is America and i’m not going to get offended because someone is sensitive to something that was not at ALL what i was saying. That is not on me, that is on the one perceiving, sorry to say- you.
          Many times when speaking of ‘beauty’ – and that is what People is talking about, one’s ethnic background does come out. I also bring it out as it figures into her growing up and GETTING INTO Hollywood.

          I (personally, JMHO) think she’s a C-level actress, but her start came because of her family connections. I know many struggling SAG card holders who work their asses off who likely have more talent than she does in her malnourished pinky finger but they won’t win an Oscar wearing an ill-fitting pink princess dress for a sub par overrated movie. I get it, life’s not fair. Newsflash.
          She is just so full of herself, evidenced EVERY where, with no sense of humility (or even the false humility Hathahater has), that to crown her with this additional accolade is just ingratiating to me. But luckily, no one takes People’s choices seriously for years now.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~
          I thought and have taken, for years, this blog to be about opinions. Everyone here preaches the ‘scroll’ function and what i find cloying and adoring someone else finds supportive. We all ‘see what we see’.
          I don’t see my language as any different than anything else we discuss that is pop culture, or Bravo on here. Apologies you don’t see it that way. Thank Allah and God and Yahweh for free speech! I suppose i should be offended by what you are implying i ‘am’ – but girl that’s on you not me. Because i know what i meant.

          • Where I grew up on the East Coast Wasp is most definitely considered to have a negative connotation. It’s not meant as a compliment. And as I said above. It was not the words themselves – using it in negative context was my point. It came off as if there is something wrong with being a jewish-wasp. It came off as being presented as another reason to dislike her. I didn’t call you anything Chismosa. In fact I believe I gave you the benefit of the doubt twice upthread and said I’m sure you didn’t mean to come off that way.

          • Regardless per Powell’s suggestion. ((hugs all around)) I felt compelled to speak up and make my point. I have. I don’t dislike anyone here or bear any ill will.

            • chismosa says:

              Ok Brigid, I didn’t mean it in a negative way- it was to explain her “manipulations” or machinations and how she works her persona to the public. She can’t just be the entitled princess that she is- she has to have something to deepen her (IMO)

              No ill-will intended. Hope we’re cool !! 😙😙

              I’ll go have some jelly beans and chillax. 😜

              • We are all cool. *hands you a bag of gourmet jelly beans*

              • And yes now that you’ve explained your intent behind the inclusion of those qualifiers – I understand your statement. *chucks some more jelly beans at you*

              • cocfarm says:

                Hey! After “hope we’re cool” I see two empty rectangles! What gives!🐔

                • Whoa – you’ve got one too! It’s contagious!

                • chismosa says:

                  COC- but YOU’VE GOT THE CHICKENS. you can’t be on the rectangles/squares team—- right? You should be able to see the images since your images are coming through ?
                  You get me?
                  📢📢

                  • cocfarm says:

                    I hear you but I got two squares then the tongue waggin smilie face at the end. Curious. My chickens are intact!
                    😄
                    Maybe what you used is an icon I don’t have.

                    Now that I have these, my husband put them on our cells too. All day today I’ve been getting cute little icons sent to me from him. What a honey.

    • chismosa says:

      Grimmeth! lol!!!!

    • BB says:

      Sorry, didn’t mean to start a casino. Just a passing observation that I don’t think she’s the most beautiful woman in the world.

      • lizzle says:

        I have no feelings towards her… as I don’t have feelings either way towards most things. I just had to pinch myself to see if I was alive. I had this idea in my head that everyone loved her… which is obviously not the case since she topped the list of most hated celeb. And your comment backed up the hated celeb list, so it must be true… peeps don’t like gwen.

        • chismosa says:

          BB sorry to make it a casino just thought I’d give a background and —–Lizzle– I SWEAR it’s not just me.
          I promise!!! Lol

      • AZGirl says:

        ITA. She is really dumb also.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        What Casino? Where? It’s just your opinion…no biggie, ziggie. Or no Bigfreed, Zigfried.

    • Powell says:

      Haha. No she’s not the most beautiful BB. She is very pretty, a hell of an actress, a great mom, wife, daughter & sis. I like her. People definitely could have picked someone else as most beautiful.

    • cocfarm says:

      Pfffttt! Agree! She is entitled and preachy.

      • I Need A Life! says:

        The gal who wrote the Preppy Handbook gave an interview a few years ago. She had updated her classic and said that Paltrow was the “ideal” adult preppy.

  16. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Those stupid wine glasses are really on my nerves!! Who gives out special glasses to only certain people at a party? That to me is just making trouble-it’s like shoving your friendship with the 2 witches up everyone else’s rear end…she can stick those glasses you know where!! What a child!!!
    And those glasses didnt look so special to me-looked she glue-gunned those stupid crown things on them!!!!

    • Stars99 says:

      They were crowns, right? I mean who does that? Give special glasses to some and not to others? It’s not like there was 100 people there… Didn’t we learn back in grade school that if you bring a valentine to one person that you have to give them to the whole class? Come on, for goodness’ sake!

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Right on Starzy….RIGHT ON!!!!! Tamra needs to grow up…or go away!!!

        • Stars99 says:

          I vote go away… Just sayin’…

          • LaineyLainey says:

            She’s a bit long in the tooth to grow up now. They say it’s never too late, but TamRAW has no desire to come off or maybe even BE a decent friend/human/woman.

      • Contessa says:

        Stars99 – exactly – you bring a gift for everyone. Trampra and the rest were awful that night and I really enjoyed your recap…it is GREAT. I have never liked Trampra from the beginning. I always thought Gretchen was a bit hinky with the Jeff thing and the other BF. Heather gets on my last nerve, the word I use for her is pretentious. Champs – give me a break. Also does anyone remember the scene where Gretched went to her house and Heather entertained her with drinks in her dressing room? Who does that unless you want someone to see all of your handbags, designer shoes/clothing, carrera marble, and all the trappings of being wealthy. You entertain on your beautiful patio, or living room and even at the kitchen island. Heather doesn’t throw out labels, but she is pretentious with a capital P. She is also mean. I believe the reason she is friends with Trampra and Gretched is because she is basically the de-facto leader and knows they will do the dirty work and she won’t gt her hands soiled too much. I think it gives her a sense of power to look down on these two low-life bumpkins. The treatment of Alexis was awful and to make another point…the threat of a lawsuit was not about Jesus Jugs – it was about accusing Jim of drugs or being a drug dealer. He may not be anyone’s favorite, but I would have called an attorney on that one as well. I like Dr. V on the WWHL and she called Trampra out about this and said they were bullying. Trampra and Heather and Gretched got royally pissed off and made fun of her credentials all over twitter. It doesn’t matter whether she is licensed, a therapist or whatever, she earend the title of Dr. and does have a PHD. They are simply mean nasty beyotches and have gone so far to the evil side they can no longer see the sun, for the darkness.

        • Stars99 says:

          You’re so right, Contessa… they were awful – and you even used the word “hinky” – perhaps we’ll both be guilty by word association, no? lolol… These women have really sunk to a new low… I mean, c’mon…

        • Powell says:

          I didn’t have a problem w/her having Gretchen up to her BR lounge having champagne. Lisa V did that w/Brandi & they had tea & wine I believe. That’s something I can.imagine wealthy women doing w/the GFs. When I get my mansion we can have a party in my bedroom/lounge. 🙂

        • austin1963 says:

          That’s a good assessment of her royal Heathership. She’s no better than the other two, but she doesn’t get her hands quite as dirty.

    • Obsessed w RH says:

      That’s exactly what I mean with Tamra. Like why does she have to be such a b*tch and do something like that….how about you give them those two glasses but you give everyone else SOMETHING…..that was just entirely mean spirited and I really don’t get why she couldn’t give them the glasses at another time when it was just the three of them or give everyone something and maybe those two got those crown glasses. Tamra needs to grow the hell up.

      • designernailsdiana says:

        I’m wondering why Trampra has only invited 5 people to her “New” business opening/maybe party??
        Was this a business type party for them to just see the space? Come on who the F does that??
        If I’m throwing a party, even a small one, I invite lots of people. Not 5 people and a psycho errr psychic.
        I do miss the days when Vicki and Jeana would hang out on the patio by the pool and have a glass of wine and talk about their kids. Or when Briana would roll her eyes when Vicki showed up where she and her then bf were eating. Or Kara would make funny comments about her brothers. Oh those were the days……………:sigh:
        Now we get fake “dinner” parties where yelling and costco hor’ dourves are served. (My 81 yr old Dad calls them Hoover Doovers)
        P.S. It’s 50 degrees and by Friday it’s supposed to hit 70. I’m hoping MN gets spring too Husker!!

    • Powell says:

      And how many people did she invite? 10-12? Well a hostess w/class would have a gift for each person at the table or give them at the end of the evening. If she wanted to give her BFFs special gifts she should have done that the next day in person, but we are talking about Tamra.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        is it just hw’s or is that the norm? Giving presents to your dinner guests. If I buy the food and drinks, prepare it and serve and the guest consume it…THAT’S THEIR GIFT!!! Don’t be comin’ over to eat my food and drink my wine and use my restrooms and expect to walk out with a gift!! The food and drinks were your gift. Ok, you’ve all been warned. 😉

        • iceNfire says:

          All my life the rule has been that the guest brings a gift for the hostess unless ofcourse it’s just family dinner

        • Powell says:

          Some people give gifts. The food would be the gift at my house too. 😉 But if a hostess does give gifts to the guests they don’t pick certain people to give gifts to. That’s just common courtesy & manners. Bringing two special gifts when there are 10 people is just wrong.

          • nyc mama says:

            Indeed. Even Lisa let Faye walk off with the gift that was intended for no-show Kim even though Faye was NFI.

            But as Powell already said, look at who you are talking about. Not surprising when one is speaking of a person who has no class or manners.

            • iceNfire says:

              Bravo would never get someone of LisaVP’s caliber to sign up for OC

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                What difference does it make-BH OC NJ MIA NY ATL…they are all the same in my book. No HW is better than the other-they all signed on for a reality show that has nothing to do with reality!! I don’t think Lisa V has more or less caliber than any one of them. if she did-she would be on a respectable network on a respectable show-not this trash that I watch faithfully!!!

                • iceNfire says:

                  Vp has basic etiquette/manners. No matter how hurt or angry we have seen her she doesn’t go to the gutter like so many others do.

                  • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                    I get that ice but they are all there to make a buck-ya know what I’m sayin’?

        • pat says:

          For special occasions I like to do a little “party favor” and put it at each place setting or hand to guests as they leave. Total low- class move on Tamra’s part to have special wine glasses for just two of her guests. Her karma sucks.

  17. nyc mama says:

    Wow. Thank you Stars99. I don’t watch the show so reading the recap and all your thoughts is so much more entertaining than these inspid, vile women could ever be. Kudos to you all!!!!

    I read a comment to Love from Mobwives on Twitter. Someone was encouraging VH1 to give her her own show and someone responded, “no Andy from Bravo should”. I lol’d since bad behavior has now become what Bravo is known for so, it wouldn’t surprise me if he does and it wouldn’t be much of a stretch after this and MtM.

    • Stars99 says:

      I’m glad you enjoy it, NYC… and I’m glad you’re saving yourself from having to watch it! You’re one smart cookie! = )

      • nyc mama says:

        I owe you. You are taking the hit for me so one day I hope to reciprocate. Your recaps are so much better than the actual thing. Bravo should take note.

        Not smart, just no tolerance level for this and besides I never really found them interesting from the start even when they were relatively benign. I watched once first season and found them unintersting so never looked back and I only started watching HW’s regularly when NY came on and now can’t even watch that one anymore. Ah, the good ole days

      • lillybee says:

        Thank you for the recap.

  18. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    The whole scene with Eddie saying Tamra has so many dresses with tags on them? Well why doesn’t Eddie know that Tamra and her harpie Gretchen shop at Forever 21 where a dress cost 19.99? Tamra is not spending all her money on clothes-the OC have some of the cheapest looking clothes of all the HWs-none of them are wearing expensive clothes in my opinion!!!

    • realhousewifeva says:

      On WWHL she was wearing Steve Madden shoes. Not hating, because I always wear Steve Madden, but that is hardly the CL or YSL shoes the BH and ATL ladies sport. I dont think Tamra is rich at all. I remember last season she said she wanted to spend around 70,000 to open her fitness center? And she still had to partner with Eddie for half?

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I can get myself a pair of Steve Maddens-I don’t need to see Tamras!!! That’s why the dress convo with Eddie was stupid-if I bought all my dresses at Forever 21 my husband would be happy-because they are cheap( and look cheap on any over 21!!!!)(my husband wouldn’t be happy if I looked cheap…I don’t think he would be anyway!!)

        • princesspindy says:

          Ya never know Jillzy, maybe you should get one those $20 dresses and see if he likes you looking cheap, hee hee!! Don’t forget the chewing gum!!

          (No offense to anyone who chews gum, I love to chew gum but stopped a long time ago because I realized I was a little too enthusiastic in my chewing and cracking, and we all know Crack is Whack, lol)

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            It’s true ya know…crack is whack!!!

          • ladebra says:

            I drive the 405 between Wilshire and the 118 (just named the worst commute in the whole 50 states) twice a day. I start chewing gum as soon as I get behind the wheel and instead of screaming and flipping people off, I chew gum, vigorously!

            • TexasTart says:

              Ugh, to your commute!! Maybe I need to take up gum chewing?! Austin, Texas was named 4th worst traffic in the nation.

            • princesspindy says:

              Oh wow, that is a hard commute. We use to live in SImi Valley so I know that 118! Just coming home from Northridge was bad, I can’t imagine from Wilshire.

    • Dixie says:

      Wasn’t Gretchen recently busted for wearing dresses and then returning them to Nordstrom? Bet Tamara does that also.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        Funny side story here. I had a special event to go to Saturday night and really nothing to wear because I haven’t bought anything new since . . . forever.

        I took my 20 year old son with me and off we went. I have a pair of black slacks so I was just looking for a top to go with them. From across the store, my son spotted a shirt and said “That looks like you mom.” I went over and pulled it out and by gosh, I kind of liked it.

        So up to the check out counter we go and come to find out, the shirt was 70% off and another 10% taken off because of the sale they were running that day. I paid a total of $10.69 for it! I wore it that night and also to church the next day. My husband even commented on how nice I looked.

        After reading the above postings about how Tamra and Gretchen shop for their clothes, does this put me in their category? If so, I’m going back to Wal-Mart to shop!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          No no no-I didn’t mean it like that-for heavens sake I buy so much of my clothes from Target and Kohls. I’m saying Eddie complaint about having 19.99 dresses in the closet is dumb-she wear cheap clothes so what’s he complaining about???? And for 10.69 you should have checked to see if they had my size!!!

          • HuskerHuny says:

            No Jill, I got your gist. This was my long-winded way of saying that the OC ladies put so much effort into trying to ‘look’ like they wear designer-cool stuff and they basically shop in all of the places that us normal girls do, but wouldn’t be caught dead admitting it! But we’re on to them.

            The store I bought my shirt at is a family-owned business that has been in my community for over 100 years. You just don’t see stores like that anymore. They still stock quality clothing at a very reasonable price! Let me know when you’re coming to town and we’ll do some shopping!

          • Contessa says:

            I am an equal opportunity shopper, walmart, jc penny, macys, nordstrom. I have found some beautiful work items at JC for a pittance at clearance, some great items at Walmart and Target for wearing at home and out and about. For something special I will go to Nordstrom/Macy for a suit and once in a a great while find a clearance/sale Eileen Fisher item (she has some beautiful plus sizes – but way too expensive unless on final sale, for me). The oc girls outside of Heather, dress in Forever 21 and Bebe (expensive version of forever 21). They do not come close to BH, NY or Atlanta…the two worst dress and over accessorized are Trampra and Gretchen (this includes the makep as well). The get-up that Trampra had on WWHL was something I would expect to see on the backstreets of Las Vegas Blvd, way, way off the strip walking the street. She really did look like a $5 hooker.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Why do they dress so cheap? I remember when OC first started the all wore those beaded tops-they were not cheap-the knock off one were cheap but they weren’t wearing the knock offs! Now they look like they don’t have a dime in their dress budget!!! The NY women all dress in beautiful clothes-tailored and clean lines. In BH I’m over the style of Lisa’s dresses but love her in a white button down and jeans. Kyle tries to hard to be trendy and Brandi can not afford the BH just yet. The ATL ladies are a hot mess-except Cynthia. But the OC ladies look sad and poor…

              • iceNfire says:

                OC HW’s are just plain and ordinary or that’s how they started out. Then came RHONY and something snapped with OC. They are still ordinary but have seen the money and connections the others in the franchise have and OC just can’t compete….but they will die trying and pretend in the meantime

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  They need to pretend in better clothes…at least in ATL the all wear the most FAB shoes!! I don’t like how they dress but they have some fancy footwear!!!

  19. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Thank You so much for the blog Stars, after all the events over the last few days I was in need of a good laugh.

    I didn’t watch the show because as I mention, I really don’t like anyone from the entire OC cast but the buzz of the diner party that I have been reading did prompt me to take a peek on the Bravo site, so I did see part of the diner party.

    Tamra, Gretchen and Heather just looked ridiculous.,and on top of taking cheap shots because that is who they are, I also think it was producer driven. The bitter drama made sure that Tamra’s studio would get more exposure.

    Although I still think the “bully” word gets tosses around too often..and it should be left in situations that involve children, it doesn’t mean that horrible behavior between adults is okay. Tamra and her crew seem to take great exception to the word bully being used, I hope they are comforted by knowing that they aren’t ‘bullies’ as I would define them, they are just mean spirited, purposely cruel and malicious and have the mentality of children (really mean and insecure children….and I have to note the irony of what those types of kids are called)

    • realhousewifeva says:

      It was like Dr. V said to Tamra, she seems to have a problem with that particular word. So she doesnt mind being a nasty, vile, piece of crap bitch…but Bully is so awful?

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        Apparently so…but the twisted part is it doesn’t come across as her trying to preserve the word in an effort to be an advocate for children and the situations they are facing but that she thinks she is above the fray.

    • Stars99 says:

      Rabble – we all need a good laff right about now, don’t we? Although they also infuriate me, too… (sigh)… lol… = )

  20. Dixie says:

    I noticed that as she was leaving, and as Tamara was yelling and cussing at her, Alexis told Tamara that she wished her luck on her business. I would not have been that nice.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      In some ways, I think it’s pretty clever on Alexis part. It reminds me of the expression “Kill them with kindness” which is like toxin to some of these women.

  21. cocfarm says:

    Oh I can’t wait I can not wait!!!
    http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/04/24/this-weeks-cover-arrested-development/

    These people are as screwed up as the rhw series but are funny!

  22. Shiny says:

    Stars, your recap was hilarious.

    I watched the absurd OC and cringed, but when reading your recap I roared with laughter. Not only do you make great comments, you spot so much more than I see, and then wittily point out how they are even more horrible than I saw. Of course, my yells of “STOP IT” at the TV probably make me miss at least 1/4 of the show.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Shiny-you talk much nicer to your TV than I talk to mine!!

      • Shiny says:

        Truth…that’s when other people are in the house somewhere. When I know I’m alone, I am rather less formal in my wording…..

    • Stars99 says:

      Thanks, Shiny… I cringed, too! = ) The only thing that saves me is “rewind” because I find myself yelling at them, too..,lol

  23. LaineyLainey says:

    I added a post (prayer request) to the Prayer and Advice page. Nothing dire, everybody’s fine…if you can join me in prayer, that would be much appreciated. ❤

  24. plainviewsue says:

    Someone tweeted Andy how he felt about the Mon nite episode of RHOC. He normally doesn’t answer, but he tweeted back that he found it to be disturbing.

    Ya think??????

    Andy, stop rewarding this behavior. As an employee, Tamra was outright nasty to a caller ( A VIEWER) on WWHL. Did you say anything to her about it?

    Tamra is an angry unhappy woman. She should be happy (sounds like a certain Red Queen we all know), but is just so bitter she doesn’t allow herself to be.

    What Eddie sees in her is beyond me. She might be attractive on the outside (altho she gets to looking harder and harder each season), but she is one of the ugliest people on tv on the inside. And that is saying a lot!

    Speaking of how they look, Gretchen, if you puff your lips up anymore you will be a kissin cousin with Taylor!!!

  25. TexasTart says:

    LaineyLainey, who you callin’ Lupey?!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      My dad used to tell this joke:
      So there were two spanish speaking Catholics, one from Spain and one from Mexico and a Protestant from Texas getting ready to parachute out of an airplane. The Spaniard Catholic, genuflected (crossed himself) and prayed aloud (this part has some Spanish, so it might kill the joke) “Virgen de Guadalupe I ask for your protection. Amen.” And he jumped and landed safely. The Mexican Catholic takes his turn, crosses himself “Virgen de Guadalupe, please protect me and keep me safe. Amen.” He jumps and does indeed, land safely. The Texan has been watching everything….So here comes the Texan…He shrugs his shoulders and yells ” ME TOO, LUPEYYYYYYY!!!!!!” as he jumps out of the plane.

  26. shamrockblonde says:

    thanks so much for the recap Stars!! – it was great!! – not gonna bother commenting on Heather, Gretchen Tamara or even Alexis – I was watching Vicki the entire time, waiting for her to defend Alexis – at the very least to point out that the only reason Alexis agreed to come was because Vicki pleaded with her to accompany her – the wicked witches of the west implied that Alexis wished to be included, that she asked to come – and Vicki sat there and did not set the record straight – Alexis would do well to remember that – yes, I know the whole shebang was set up by Bravo, but true character still came across – and it was not at all pretty – on any of them –

    what will Vicki do? will she get up and walk out, or will she stay? – I would like to see her get up and walk out – but I know that some part of her still cares for Tamara – I have absolutely no idea why though – she despises Gretchen, but she might just stay for Tamara – either way, I hope Alexis keeps her eyes wide open in her friendship with Vicki –

    • austin1963 says:

      If Vicki doesn’t get up and walk out next week, any shred of redeeming humanity that she may possess will be gone in my eyes. She practically begged Alexis to come with her and set it all up with Trampra. Alexis never asked Trampra to come to her party. She was doing Vicki a favor. I am hoping it was just editing that prevented us from seeing Vicki defend Alexis’ presence last night. We’ll see next week.

    • Stars99 says:

      Yeah, Shamrock, I was surprised by Vicki’s silence, too… Although she did try to say it in an adult way through a toast… but unfortunately, they were unable to handle it… (sigh)… lol

  27. princesspindy says:

    Stars, GREAT JOB!! When I first sat down with my coffee and I saw your blog I said, “Oh boy!” I laughed out loud at “fat chance” , started my morning off well!!

    I am completely exhausted, and so sore but the whole tile floor got set last night. It turns out that my son is really good at laying the tile but not so good at spreading the adhesive. So I did that while he set the tile. My advice to you is don’t try to lay tile with someone that is OCD about getting anything on their hands……how could I have forgotten that…..wait till we grout, he is going to have a meltdown, lol!!! We will be wearing latex free gloves to grout, HA! But we had fun together and make a good team. I was so tired as I spread the adhesive for the last four tiles and I said, “I can’t do this” lol! He said “Come on, you can’t give up now!!” I took a bath and crawled into bed and fell asleep.

    But the good news is that I wake up many mornings feeling worse than I do today and haven’t even done anything the day before!!!

    • Shiny says:

      Had to laugh at image of OCD reaction to messy hands. I HATED finger paint as a child – for that very reason, I realized later.

      Congrats on getting entire floor tiled – Wow!

      • princesspindy says:

        That is funny! I think as a mom when you have a kid barf into your hands or you get poop on your hands, a little adhesive is nothing, lol!

    • iceNfire says:

      And you got a new floor! Yippie!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      What a great feeling to accomplish something like that!! You two are a great team!!! very cool!!

    • Powell says:

      Congrats on the floor PrincessP. Funny your son doesn’t like to get his hands dirty. My mom told me when I was a toddler I didn’t like to get dirty & is probably why I never crawled. Didn’t like putting my knees on the floor so I just walked. And today I don’t like to get my hands dirty. I don’t like getting lotions or creams under my finger nails, I don’t like the feeling of lotion on my hands after I put lotion on my body. I have to wash it off. And I don’t like to touch raw meat. My mom especially laughs at me about that. 🙂

    • Stars99 says:

      Tiara – I miss you!… So glad you got so much done – such a feeling of accomplishment! Yeah, it was hard not to be snarky this week about RHOC… they’re batcrapcrazy!

    • Orson says:

      I’ve read that people who have severe OCD refer to it as CDO and say “It’s in alphabetical order, as it should be!”

  28. Shiny says:

    On different subject, this week I was applying for disability benefits for my son with autism.

    We support him, of course; however, we’re getting older, and I worry more and more about what happens when he’s alone someday. I understand that he should be poor to qualify for benefits. If he doesn’t need money, the money should be there for someone who does.

    But 2000 is the limit to the bank accounts he can have? He has a few hundred more and therefore is ineligible. They said to apply again when he has less. Spend his money on things in order to qualify for benefits is not the lesson I want to be teaching him!

    I hated the idea of applying for disability benefits anyway – I want him to push to be capable and able in the world. I guess I’m just wound up because I’m all conflicted today – thanks for a place to be conflicted among friends.

    • iceNfire says:

      (((Shiny))) idk …wish i could offer help

    • princesspindy says:

      Shiny, there was a point in time where I thought about doing this for my son….but he doesn’t want to. He won’t even go into the Special Ed office at college to ask for accommodations for Algebra….I told him I would go with him and bring my notebook full of IEPs, etc…. He has had jobs but I still worry about him “making it” in the world…. I think he can do it but then some days he is just so “special” I worry….. (((Shiny)))

      • iceNfire says:

        I know – I insisted KidRock get placed in SpecialEd for English. He has/had finger agnosia (?) He cant hold a pen properly and squeezes so tight it causes head aches. He was very embarrassed but this but his friends supported him and look at him now!! PPindy this was when he was in H.S. and had lots of friends idk if your Son has support system on campus?

        • princesspindy says:

          He has tons of friends on campus… he needs to take Algebra and as smart as he is, it doesn’t click. So I told him this would be a example of when to use the Special Ed office. Maybe they can get accomidations for him in the class or something. I will probably end up going to the campus and talking to them with him cuz he won’t or maybe if I make an appointment he will go by himself, with his liddle mommy…. lol!

          • Shiny says:

            Thanks all.
            My son used the disabilities office on campus, and they were great about getting the couple accommodations he needed for writing. And for Algebra, one needs more time on tests and extra tutoring, for sure. Prof’s are much more aware than they used to be.

            The campus might have a tutoring system (work-study for the tutors) or a Quantitative Center (like a Writing Center for students, but for math) where there is lots of ongoing help. Prof would know and want him to attend office hours, too. ( My husband is a math prof, and really wants kids to succeed no matter what it takes.)

            Reassure your kid that algebra is
            on one side of the brain and geometry is on the other: most people are better at one than the other, even though we are required to pass both in school.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              I didn’t know that-about geometry and algebra. My older daughter went from an A in math to B and it was all about algebra.She had such a hard time with it but finally got it and moved back up to an A. Im dreadful at any math-my left and right brain agree with me.
              I love that you said you husband wants the kids to succeed no matter what-my nephew had a hard time in college and didnt want to ask for any extra help-even though he had resource room help all through high school. He ended up leaving the school he worked to hard to get into. I wish he would have taken the help that was available to him. Easy for me to say-not so easy for him to do.

              • iceNfire says:

                The school gave my son a portable word processor so he could just type instead of writing everything out. I know a lot of people complain about public schools, i became frustrated myself but in this instance they came thru and the funny thing is everybody is typing these days…cant remember the last time i received a hand written anything

                • Powell says:

                  Shiny, ice & PrincessP you are awesome moms. Your kids are so fortunate to have chosen you to be their moms. I’m totally in awe of each one of you. You have brought tears to my eyes. God bless you & moms & dads like you. Your kids are going to be just fine in this world because of you.

            • princesspindy says:

              I can understand why we need geometry, we used a ton of it yesterday figuring out the floor. I read a novel about the history of math, I’m a nerd, and I don’t think algebra should be required, ippho!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            It’s the first tiime,….so if he’s ok with it, you SHOULD go with him. They will not think less of him…they will most likely welcome you both and be glad to provide him any accommodations that are available to him.

    • lillybee says:

      You should follow through with applying. Just keep his bank accounts under 2k and he should be fine. If he gets the disability, in Ca. he would get free medi-cal and I believe that he will get Medicaid in a year or two.

    • ladebra says:

      I understand your feelings about the lesson you want to teach, but, the limit of $2000 is so artificial and doesn’t allow the leeway to evaluate each case. So I would spend down to the limit and apply. Really I would.

  29. HAPPY HUMP DAY ALL… Seems to be a week of putting out fires amongst friends and family…amazing that some words can cause such damage.. and I am not referring to a post here, but words that in the past 3 days have caused rifts in relationships within my family and with friends.. I tend to play peace maker with these folks .. they come to me for advice on how to mend these broken relationships… all I can offer are some kinds words and encouragement and ask that they put themselves on the other side of the equation and see if things would look different from the OTHER persons point of view…SCORE TWO relationships back on track..THANK GOD…
    NOW… tomorrow the 25th is PINK MOON.. yea…. hope everyone gets to view it…
    watched OC late last night… still smh…. what a bunch of ego-testicle browbeating beeitches… such a waste of emotions over NOTHING…. shameful that they are setting the example for the next generation of adults…..

    off to do my errands… fried chicken and tater salad tonite..YUMS….YUMS… mr ford made cookies for us yesterday…he ” kinda” burned them…I didnt say a word about it but he did… lol lol lol all’s well though…I gave them to the squirells…. they don’t care..they are like Mikey..they’ll eat anything..

    in closing…sharing my ear worm song from this a/m… I actually won ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS back in 1981 in Aspen , Co. for knowing this song…the radio station played 3 notes to the song and no one could guess it…. after about 15 mins or so I continued to HUM the notes , then the light bulb went off…. oh yea buddy…. we had a nice dinner that night for sure…
    hugs and peace
    diva

    • Powell says:

      Wise words Diva. I hope work is going good. No Mr. McCreepy bothering you. Since Mr. Ford is burning cookies it sounds like he’s doing well. When is your son moving back? Or has he already? If so I hope you got to see him. Take care good lady. 🙂

      • powell…. PITA packing as we speak… they get on the road late sat nite.. arriving here sometime sunday… they are only staying here in town for one day..then off to west palm beach ..he starts work tuesday…
        mc creepy..I just ignore him…have my work done when he gets there..he counts the drawer then I leave…they wanted me to work today ..told them NO… I dont want to set the example that I am always available to cover someone’s shift at a moments notice…bad precedence…I need and want to spend some time with mr ford….. he goes in for injections in his knee friday a/m… chicken juice ???? lol lol
        off to grocery shop…or as I call it.. my social hour….

        hugs and peace
        diva

        • iceNfire says:

          Hi Diva – Happy you mentioned the pink moon I noticed the moon looked like a smiling face last night and pointed it out to LittleKid…who knows it’s best to just agree with me 🙂

        • Powell says:

          Good stuff. I hope your happy hour serves drinks. 😀 Just kidding. No drinking & shopping.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Sang this song my senior year in high school; that would be 19something. A friend of mine played guitar and the two of us sang at many events/weddings. Pretty song! Thanks for the memory.

    • Just Wondering in Jersey says:

      <<<<<>>>>

      Love it!

      If you have any fried chicken and tater salad left over it sure would be nice if it appeared in New Jersey. Yumm

    • Shiny says:

      Many points to you for spreading some wisdom and peace to friends and relatives – and for being the fine person they would actually listen to!

      Well fed squirrels are very important – keep burning the occasional batch, Mr. Ford.

      Good for you in protecting your time and sanity by not taking every shift offered. You always have your priorities straight, Diva. Good example for all of us about saying NO at the right times. (or No, thank you.)

  30. BB says:

    OT. A couple of months ago, my mom’s gentlemen friend, who is 91, broke his hip and was in the hospital, then rehab, then assisted living until he could get back on his feet. My mom had been going to see him almost on a daily basis until she got sick three weeks ago. He has really missed seeing her so, when his son had him out for a doctor’s visit, he asked him into bring him by here to see her. It was so cute to see them when he got here and walked into her den and they gave each other a short smooch. His son and I sat in the other room talking while they had their visit. It was nice that they could see each other again. He was living in a house before all this happened, but now he will be moving into an apartment complex where his brother, who is in his ’80s, also lives. I told them if they wanted to resume their Saturday night dates anytime soon, I would act as their cheauffer. Lol. Tomorrow I will be going to my house for a few days and taking my mom with me. My husband has to go out of town and somebody needs look after my doggies. It will be nice being at home again. We got new furniture for our den last week and I haven’t even seen it in person yet. Hopefully, my mom won’t get too antsy about being at my house, but she’s going to have to grin and bear it for awhile. I sometimes have to remind her that things could be a lot worse for her. I even repeat the words “Shady Pines, Ma” every once in a while. He he.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I was going to ask about your moms friend-but then I thought maybe I imagined that she had a boyfriend!! How cute that they got to hang out together!!!

    • Contessa says:

      BB- you are an extraordinary daugther and I have no doubt your Mom is a very special person. I am so happy to hear she is getting better and better. The scene of the kiss is a such sweet thing and really touched me. Glad to hear all is on the up and up!

    • TexasTart says:

      Awww, that is so sweet they could see one another, maybe this will help both of their recoveries! So nice both caretakers could come together on that one. Maybe it will help her perk up some and you can hold it over her head to behave if she wants to see him again – jk! Thanks for the update, I’m glad you will be home for a little while at least. I bet the doggies have been crazy without you. Well at least, one of them, IIRC. 😉

    • Nancy says:

      What a sweet story BB. Just make sure she’s on some birth control. lol

    • pat says:

      Love this story, BB. What an awesome daughter you are. “Shady pines” lol!

      • Shiny says:

        agreed. All of my 95 year old mother’s beaus have passed on. Lovely to read of a little senior romance.

    • This is such a sweet story BB and brought tears to my eyes! You are such a wonderful DD and remind me of my own DD who, I know, will be just as good to me, and it is a comforting thought. She also has used that line “Shady Pines, Ma” already with me and I am still kickin’ on my own just yet. I KNOW I will hear that more frequently later on!

      Bless you dear lady!

    • trudie says:

      That makes my heart happy!

      Last Thanksgiving, my MIL was telling us she had broken up with her “boyfriend.” My oldest daughter asked why, and my MIL said it was because all he wanted to do was come over and neck. You should have seen the look on my kids faces!

    • Catseye says:

      Such a sweet story. I’m glad your mom is doing a little better, too.

    • Powell says:

      LOL BB. My great aunt is 90 something and about 4 yrs ago she had a BF. He passed away. My mom & aunts used to tease her about her BF. It was very cute.
      It was nice of you to offer to be their chauffeur.
      I’m glad you get to go home for a bit to see your four legged kids and say hi to your new furniture. It’s always good to be home.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Oh BB, this comment melted my heart. My cold, black, heart. You are quite a pair you and your ma. Thanks for sharing, this mmmmmuahhhhh a big smooch to you both.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      So cute

  31. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Why do the HWs always try to act like they don’t have a nanny or a housekeeper…I dream of having both…or one…

    • chismosa says:

      Excellent statement

      • iceNfire says:

        chismosa – i’ve been meaning to ask if you have really strong nails too like your hair. mine hurts to clip/cut them so i slice them off with sharp knife and then file them smoothe…..tmi?

        • chismosa says:

          Omg I’m sorry that made me giggle! You actually use a knife!!!?!?

          BUT you have an interesting point. My nails grow super fast and are pretty strong. Like if I actually wanted to do that long talon-pointy nail trend that all the celebs do now I probably could. I cut my nails incessantly they grow so fast. And they’re pretty strong.
          So—- I guess? There’s a correlation with nails and hair? Don’t know?

          Good question

          How can it hurt to cut the nail if its the dead part of the nail? Are you cutting too short?
          A KNIFE!!! 🔪🔪🔪

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            chimosa-did you just discover your emojis? I only ask b/c my sister just discovered hers and cannot send a text without finding an appropriate emoji to accompany the text. This of course sets off a chain reaction and we start texting in emojis only and have to guess what it means…strange and fun at the same time!!!

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Oh and it’s true about hair and nails. If you have good strong hair-you usually have good strong nails 💅💇

              • chismosa says:

                Thank you–

                Well I discovered via an odd cousin I have (I think he’s closeted and is afraid to come “out” in our religious family/ just divorced his wife — he’s not odd for that– he’s just kooky to begin with….)
                He’d randomly send me texts of emojis of a gun, an animal, a building, — just things that have nothing to do with anything at all. So then my friends here explained it to me on the phone and yes, about 2 months ago or so I started. I do text with friends with emojis and they think I’m nuts
                But I never started here until maybe I saw someone else first ? I feel bad because I know not everyone can see them. But aren’t many of you on iPads?

                So, relatively recently. Yes
                📆📆🌺😽

              • chismosa says:

                And I use the hair one you used above a lot to tell people when I’m under the dryer at my salon. Lol!

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  So funny! I wish everyone could see the emojis b/c they are fun and weird!! I like a random one thrown into a text because you know the person who gets the text is like WTF??? Hahaha-messing with people is a fun past time!!!

                  • chismosa says:

                    I couldn’t agree more !!👵

                  • iceNfire says:

                    yes/no – if nails are extra long and i try to cut them with scissors or clippers it hurts the bottom where they begin to grow from finger. i am not cutting my fingers off

                    • chismosa says:

                      Ok so you are cutting pretty close to where the white part of the nail is coming in.
                      I guess if it works for you– use a good file.
                      And a good knife. Lol!

                    • iceNfire says:

                      no no no – why on earth would i want to cut way down there? i cant explain. i’ll go sharpen my knife

        • chismosa says:

          Ice I meant the white “tips” of the nail. Not the part next to the cuticle.

  32. Nancy says:

    Is anyone still watching the trial? The detective is on the stand right now. For the first time (IMO)
    Jodi looks scared.

    • trudie says:

      I am, Nancy. Jodi should be scared. Yesterday’s testimony by travis’ old girlfriend clearly demonstrated to me that she was the type of girl he would marry while Jodi was the type of girl he would screw. That’s why he spoke differently to the two.

      • Nancy says:

        Hi trudie,
        Exactly. I wonder though if Travis ever told her that this relationship won’t end up at
        the alter? Not that it matters now.

        • trudie says:

          I don’t know if he told her that he’d never marry her.

          What is the significance of the jury asking about the attic? I never heard anything about the attic, but I haven’t been following this from the beginning.

          • Nancy says:

            Maybe that the gun might have been up there? I’m not sure either.
            How long do you think the jury will be out?

            • trudie says:

              Well, in my dreams I see them walking into the jury room, picking a foreman and saying: “guilty” and letting the judge know. But, I know in reality it will be a week minimum. My husband was a juror on a murder trial and was in sequestered deliberations for 10 days.

              • Nancy says:

                Now can they take an intial vote right from the start? If it’s all guilty before they talk about the evidence will it stand? I’m canadian so I’ve never served on a jury.

  33. chismosa says:

    Oh boy.
    But won’t it most likely be joint custody? Or not? What do most of you think will happen custody-wise? Hmmm

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/bethenny-frankel-divorce-nasty-custody-jason-bryn-hoppy-court-ordered-parenting-evaluation/

  34. Amalfi says:

    I think our board in particular errs on the side of caution when the word “bully” is bandied around because Lynn (nay — all of us) were accused of bullying Jill Zarin on IHJZ. But really, I do consider what those hags do to Alexis bullying. Nasty women, the lot of them.

    But at what point is it bullying, Stars asks (and maybe she didn’t but I am not scrolling back up to verify) 🙂 well, I think if you exist on the same plane with someone and share real life friends or cohorts, then saying nasty things about each other when the other (timid bambi) can barely speak at an adult level (you’re pretty Alexis but not exactly someone I could talk to for more than 20 min at a time)… well that is bully behavior.

    How is that different from the Jills of the world. Simple — we are nobodies (no offense, everyone) mocking some ridiculous behavior we see on tv by narcissistic pseudo-celebrities.

    In reality (real reality, not fake reality), when you exist in an environment that is toxic and unrelenting – it IS abusive and Alexis chose to stay away.

    Jill-types however seek out every bad thing said about her and keep track of things like Q and Z ratings (whatevz) us. Then these people bring more focus to themselves as being victims — that is not being bullied really — that is called love being the center of attention! How amusing that at times every word in our coffee klatch-ish forum was analyzed thus our throwaway opinions valuable. THAT people, is the difference in my little brain.

    How much of what we see on OC is real? I don’t know, but if it is real, then it is bullying because these people are not random faceless people (us) but women who live in Alexis’s community and work with her.

    My opinion only. But I agree with me.

    • Nancy says:

      I agree with “me” too. It is bullying.

      • Amalfi says:

        Haha Nancy… I am glad.

        I didn’t actually see the episode, but anything where Tamra comes after someone who feels compelled to say “don’t put your hands on me” strikes me as meeting the criteria for bully.

        I did see the previews. Sue me.

        • Nancy says:

          Tamera can kiss her new business goodbye. What an idiot. I bet Eddie has already
          bought new suitcases. Never mind she’s already moved into HIS house. Good luck
          getting her out of it.

          • jezzibel says:

            that breakup is going to be EPIC.

            • Catseye says:

              So true about that new biz. Did someone here point out already that the logo with the line drawn through it looks so stupid? Like a choice that you scratched off your list.
              Oh, the breakup of Eddie and Tamra. I can HARDLY wait for THAT!

  35. iceNfire says:

    Bravo just scrubbed Icky’s the comments to her blog right in front of my eyes She had over 200 when I got there but is now down to 68

    • chismosa says:

      I wish one of those interns would come to a blog like ours here and give all the dirt on how they monitor that site.

      Can you select All and copy all the comments before they disappear? Oh wait no, because its page by page there Darnit

    • nyc mama says:

      They scrubbed Kenya’s yesterday too. I havent been on since to see if there are new ones. I’m done. Another Bravo show bites the dust for me.

  36. princesspindy says:

    Alexis should sue Bravo for a “Hostile Working Environment”

  37. TexasTart says:

    Chismosa has been breaking up into pixels today 😉

  38. TexasTart says:

    PrincessP, I just had a plain old black lab, I didn’t know meth lab was an option!!! 😛

  39. Jill...no not That Jill says:

    Ice-try soaking your nails in warm water before you clip them-it will make them a little softer and then it won’t hurt your nail bed so much-but just in case that doesn’t help-please keep your knives sharp and be careful!!!

    • iceNfire says:

      LoL – i wish i never brought this up hahaha Thanks Jillnntj 😛

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Im glad you brought it up…I will always think of you chopping off your nails with a knife when I see a post from you….hahahaha!!!!

        • iceNfire says:

          the idea formed when i was a teen cutting veggies and i sliced off a bit of my nail….now you can think of finger nails in your food too HA!

      • Powell says:

        ice. What are you doing? Be careful lady. 🙂

        • iceNfire says:

          Hi Powell – I ordered a stylus to use with my kindle but it doesnt get here til tomorrow. finger nails dont work and mine are long. years ago i got stuck in an elevator. i walked in and door closed but the buttons were the brand new (the ones we have today) kind that are activated by touch. now i know to use my knuckle but at the time i had to wait for someone else to join me in elevator

          • Powell says:

            LOL. 🙂 I have long nails also. I use my knuckles to type on my Android which is what I’m doing right now. I’m not cutting my nails to use electronics. No way. You will get the hang of your Kindle in no time.

  40. TexasTart says:

    No doubt MTH is off the board….thus far it’s been much about the word “bully” 🙄
    They are just bitches! This episode, for me, was like the last episode of S4 NJ, which had me removing the recording setting for the OC. Sad but true, 2 down. Sorry to drag you into my comment MTH, lol.

    • melthehound says:

      No need to apologize, TexasT… Most here know how I feel about that word being tossed around.

      • TexasTart says:

        Ok, I was thinking about how ridiculous some of this was and thought, what would MTH say..oh right, he probably said it all before, lol! 🙂

        • melthehound says:

          Stars made a good compare on the definition of it. What Heather Did vs what happened to her. So when it was happening to her, it was bullying. When she was doing it, it was being direct, honest, and to the point. That my friend, is one of the many reasons, I hate that word.

    • chismosa says:

      I found them to be bullying in Jersey back when Teresa threw Andy to his chair. Against Danielle
      But I think the “bullying” is a **special** thing in NJ

  41. AZGirl says:

    Wow! Everyone is busy here today! I hate not having a router at the office. I can’t keep up when there are so many posts. OC women are vile….thank you Stars for taking the bullet on recapping the show.
    @BB your mom has a “suiter” that is so cute.
    @HuskerHuny I posted a treatment for that sciatic nerve.
    @Diva: Hope PITA has a safe trip.
    Sending Happy Hump Day wishes to all the rest!

  42. iceNfire says:

    In her blog Grethen defines a RH:

    Bottom line she willingly signed up for a show where she is more than aware that the premise is to have an opinion of what the other women are doing or how they act or conduct themselves.

    • Contessa says:

      Gretchen is an idiot, an opinion or comment is one thing, but being nasty, mean, making stupid comments, telling people to leave a function (when she is not the hostess) and just for the heck of it, the baby talk, the snorty honky laugh.

      • Contessa says:

        test

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I loathe her baby talk. LOOOOOOOOOATHE IT. and when she says “sun-thin” instead of something.

        • Nancy says:

          Her relationship with Jay made my skin crawl as she was only into for the money.

          • Nancy says:

            into it

          • Catseye says:

            I think you mean Jeff, the OLD guy with the money. Jay was the one she was cheating with and lying about it–Tamra sure threw her a curve ball when she exposed THAT on the reunion. Yes, I completely agree. And what does it say about her education and upbringing? Especially when she was making that crude hand gesture on the last show. Such a filthy, filthy woman. I’ll bet Alexis is actually happy not to be friendly with her any more.

    • Powell says:

      That’s just really sad. She & Tamra are saying what they did is ok. They were just speaking their mind. They will just never get it.

  43. lizzle says:

    Whew! Finally finished all 408 comments… now I am back to watching the new Netflix show… Hemlock Grove about werewolves. It is a lot like Twin Peaks, so if you aren’t into Twin Peaks… then don’t watch! I enjoyed everyone’s thoughts today. Who knew the OC could bring so much discussion… I love it! It is like a wave… RHOBH to RHOA to RHOC to RHONJ to RHONY… everyone ebbs and flows on who they like and don’t like. So much fun!

  44. TexasTart says:

    I can’t believe season finales already for Rachel and Brad?! Feels like there were only 6 episodes?! 😕

    • BB says:

      That’s a good thing IMO. I like Brad, and used to like Rachel, but I can’t take her anymore.

      • TexasTart says:

        I like to laugh at Rachel’s OCD and over-the-top aspirations. It was hard to make it through Brad last year, I could not deal with the crying, but this year, he’s got his confidence and it’s been agood.

  45. AZGirl says:

    OT: There are a lot of posters here suffering from injuries that are not from surgery. ICE.ICE and MORE ICE. Remember R.I C.E. Rest Ice Compress and Elevate. Always works.
    {{{{Hugs}}}}}}

  46. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Does anyone watch Dukes of Melrose? I love it!! The clothes…the bags…the shoes!! It is fab!!
    I noticed that not one of us talked about WIGS show-I guess we are not watching that? I watched last week but forgot about this week-I guess I didn’t like it!!!

  47. Realhousewifeva says:

    This is so cute

  48. TexasTart says:

    Stars, I just gotta say that you really out-did yourself with this recap. Amaaaaaaazing!

  49. iceNfire says:

    Bless me Father for I have sinned, ok i didnt really sin and i’m no longer Catholic. i have it in my head that i have to bike ever night for 40 days in a row for it to become a habit. tonight is #23 and i only got 2 houses away and pedal fell off….so i walked really fast to the cigarette store and back and i’m counting tomorrow as day i#24 instead of going back to #1 to get my forty days in a row…..intention is everything 🙂

    • California35 says:

      Is not your fault and you did have the intention 🙂 wow!! 23 consecutive days??!! Good job 🙂

  50. California35 says:

    Did you guys see who will be a guest in The Exes?
    I just finished watching the Following and wow! I am glad I waited to watch until today when I could dedicate the full attention…but wow!
    I agree with all about OC, not interested, so much drama. I prefer the drama shows I watch like The Following 🙂 OC is just full of fake…hair, body, and persinalities.

    Good night, teo more days before the weekend 🙂

  51. Orson says:

    I think Stars deserves an reward or something for watching OC enough to recap it as well as she did. Can someone send her Ole Chicklet Teeth himself, George?

  52. ladebra says:

    It’s probably not news to anyone but me, I just saw on the early local news that Gretchen proposed to Slade. And she’s wearing a 4 carat yellow diamond. Oh boy 😱

  53. Buttercream says:

    Fabulous 4 Star re-cap! Woo hoo! Laughed thru lunch reading your re-cap – thank you, thank you. IMO, I’m sad at the downward turn of this RHOC .. used to be more laughter and fun. Now, it’s screaming, scheming, nasty back biting gossiping, pork face injections with phony baloney lives.
    Is it time to throw out the trash and start anew?

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