Real Housewives of Orange County

Real Housewives of Orange County

by Stars99

Note:  The following is a recap of Episode 9 of the Real Housewives of Orange County.  This is a public service announcement aimed at those who have watched any of the episodes this season, read recaps, written comments, and/or those who have even thought about the show for more than 2 seconds… ***WARNING*** You may have been unknowingly subjected to brain melting mental stimuli and therefore you must immediately take positive steps to ensure your mental health has not been otherwise permanently damaged. Joining a support group, increasing yoga activities, drinking your favorite alcoholic beverage and eating chocolate are all highly encouraged, if not mandated activities.  Okay, you’ve been warned… Brace yourselves… Here we go!    

The episode opens with Tamra pouring two glasses of wine (maybe sparkling water…I can’t tell) since of course Heather has come over to her house so they can rehash last week’s episode and trash talk those not in attendance. Heather appropriately ooo’s and ahhh’s over the seemingly new paintjob at Tamra’s house.  In case you didn’t know, poor, poor Tamra had been living in a dark cave of a home until she got nice, sparkly, new white molding installed throughout the house.  However, I kinda thought it would be appropriate for Tamra, who is certifiably batcrapcrazy, to actually live like a bat in a cave, no?  They talk about how rude it was for Gretchen and Slade to be really late to last week’s taping of “Hot in Cleveland.” Then, as if tardiness wasn’t enough, Tamra told Heather they kept getting up and stepping off to the side to talk on the phone about something.  Heather blogs about the whole situation in her May 20th blog, wherein she discloses, “I just found it so disappointing especially when I found out later that the calls were about a gift Gretchen was helping me with for Tamra. There was no emergency about it that needed to be taken care of at 7 pm on a Friday night.” Heather thinks Gretchen and Slade are unbelievably rude and said, “I don’t think I’ll be inviting them to the next thing I’m doing!”  (Take that, Gretchen… lolol!)  Heather tells Tamra that she and Terry haven’t really had time to talk about how wounded Heather is that Terry brought up the “D” word (divorce).  Heather says she forgives easily, but doesn’t forget too easily.  Sigh.

Lydia and her hatOh look, in another surprising pairing, Alexis and Lydia are meeting for coffee probably because we’re down to 2 people who will actually be on camera with Alexis these days.  Awww, Lydia is wearing a knit cap on for no apparent reason.  The only people who should be wearing knit caps in Southern California are those who are artists, musicians, or those who live in the mountains.  It just isn’t that cold here… seriously.  They bemoan the fact that they haven’t seen much of each other recently, which I find very amusing.  (Remember just a couple of episodes ago – Lydia told Heather and Tamra that she had only known Alexis for like 3-4 months.)  Obviously, these best friends are woefully missing each other’s company so much I honestly don’t know how they keep on living.  They’re such great buddies that Lydia didn’t even know that the name of Alexis’ new tramp place (indoor trampoline park) is Sky Zone.  Lydia, the broken record, once again tells Alexis that she is the one who needs to reach out to the ladies by making “a bold move.”  She tells her she needs to forgive Tamra and move on – but she should do so in a place without alcohol or 20 other girls in attendance.  It seems to me that Lydia is speaking to Alexis as one Christian to another – to encourage her to forgive and move on.  I totally understand that part of things… but in all fairness, Alexis did make a bold move by walking into that den of vipers of a dinner party at Tamra’s new fitness studio.  Tamra’s mature response to Alexis was to almost physically throw her out of the building while verbally attacking her.  So, I’m kind of with Alexis in her thought about what is going to make another meeting any different – she’s been burned so many times before.  Alexis says she’s going to think about it.  Alexis also has to S-T-O-P using the “bully” word… seriously.

Vicki talking to BrooksVicki and Brooks are meeting for lunch at Brooks’ home which is 5 miles away from where Vicki lives.  Wait, did we know that he had a place of his own?  Is he paying for it?  Hmmm… Vicki says they see each other a couple of times a week.  Vicki is still cranky that she made the agreement with Briana that Brooks not be allowed at her house. Vicki expresses that she doesn’t understand why can’t they can’t all just be respectful of everyone’s decisions?  Brooks tells Vicki that he wants to take her to a nice hotel this weekend to get away from everything.  Vicki tells him she’s already agreed to babysit Troy this weekend while Briana and Ryan go to the Marine Corps Ball (which is a big deal).  By the way, Vicki is a workaholic and a scheduling maniac – so what on earth made Brooks think he could pull this off with only a few days’ notice?  I mean, Brooks, have you even MET Vicki?  Vicki tells Brooks that she’s available the following weekend… but he makes a point to say that he’s flying back to be with his kids that weekend since his daughter is in a play.  I’m thinking they made up this whole scenario just to attempt to prove that Brooks isn’t the complete derelict of a dad that we all suspect he really is… Wake up, Vicki!  Vicki sweetly asks Brooks for a rain check… He tells her maybe, if she’s nice.  Vicki says she’s always nice – as long as you don’t piss her off.  Brooks tells Vicki not to piss him off either… I dunno, but there was something really off about this whole lunch.  They were both standoffish towards each other – it almost feels like they are in the middle of an argument and they were just filming for the show or something. I think they’ve both pissed each other off – and they haven’t figured things out yet.

Okay, now hold on to your “chonies” – cuz Tamra has been asked to speak at the “Los Angeles Ultimate Women’s Expo” – Yes, I can hardly believe it myself.  I actually had to look it up to see what kind of a deeply misguided organization would invite someone like Tamra speak at their event.   On this year’s home page it says, “Explore your own personal style, renew your soul and uncover your passions… While you relax and rejuvenate, explore a new interest, purchase a great find, connect with inspiring keynote speakers and re-ignite your inner you.”  Oh boy…Tamra is very nervous about her speech because she’s never spoken in front of 1,000 people.  Are you kidding? You seem to have no problem acting like a lunatic in front of millions of viewers each week.  I understand that public speaking is a fear that of most of the human race shares… but since Tamra isn’t currently a member of the human race (I kid….) I was really surprised she had so much anxiety about this speech.  She decided to meet with Gary Hankins who is a “communications expert” who will offer her some practical advice on how to approach her speech.  To me, this is a surprisingly smart move.  Tamra isn’t sure exactly which direction to take but will probably talk about how to move on with life after divorce.  She wants to tell women that no matter how hard that first step is you’ve got to take it because it will make things better… because you will make it better.  Gary encourages her to tell parts of her story from which lessons can be learned – because that’s how she will connect with her audience.  Tamra’s not sure she’s ready to do that in front of so many people.  She doesn’t want to break down.  Gary says every time you speak to people it’s an opportunity to impact them in a positive way – and he encourages Tamra that she can help a lot of people.  Gary obviously doesn’t know Tamra, does he?

The next scene has Lydia at home in her kitchen stirring the pot again… No really, she is actually stirring the pot because she’s making soup – but the symbolism is not lost on the viewers.  Doug comes home and we learn that Lydia has never done a load of laundry since they’ve lived there.  Wow… are you kidding me?  We’ve heard her say that she doesn’t make dinner – she makes reservations… but really… not one load of laundry?  Whoa… She starts to explain to Doug about what transpired when she had the “pot” talk with her mom.  She really thinks she’s approaching it from a place of love but her mom thinks she’s just being rigid.  Lydia is hurt because it feels to her like her mom is choosing drugs over her and it freaks her out.  She wants her mom to respect where she’s coming from – especially regarding her kids.  Lydia thinks that she may have communicated to her mom that she didn’t think she was a good mom.  Doug responded that if Lydia thinks that’s what came across in the conversation, then she should try to have the conversation again.  Gotta admit that’s smart advice.  Lydia loves her mom to death… and Lydia tries to explain away her pot addition by saying that her mom was raised in a strict Catholic home and that’s why she smokes pot all the time… Yeah, right – that’s the reason.  They agree that no parent is perfect and she’s an incredible grandma…

Gretchen at DocsGretchen and Slade are in a medical waiting room for some reason – and Gretchen tells Slade that she has worn a skirt, “for easy access.”  I’m sure Slade hopes she means for him (and we all throw up a little in our mouth) – but sadly for him, no – it’s for the Fertility Specialist.  Evidently, Gretchen is ready to have a baby and wants to know if she’s still fertile myrtle at the ripe old age of 34.  I’m not sure why this is Gretchen’s appointment and not Slade’s, since he had a vasectomy about 12 years ago and some unsnipping probably needs to happen.  The Fertility Specialist starts to describe the uterus as “Fort Knox” and is the 2nd most protected part of a woman’s body (the brain is the 1st – but in Gretchen’s case…).  Fortunately, Gretchen’s ovaries look good – and she has a good number of “pleasantly plump” follicles, etc.  Then the Fertility Specialist starts talking about how well Gretchen’s fertility garden is growing nice and lush and I add “with silver bells and cockle shells, and pretty Slades all in a row.”  Then he drops the bombshell that the best chance for Gretchen to be successful in getting pregnant is through in vitro fertilization.  The explanation for this seems to involve the concept that men who have had a vasectomy for over 10 years don’t produce sperm in the same way that they used to – It may have to do with the actual number of swimmers or maybe the strength of their stroke…  Gretchen has a window of opportunity that is starting to close, “tick tock, tick tock” (Yes, the guy actually said “tick tock”).  He encourages them to consider in vitro – that it may be an opportunity that they may not have considered.  However, on behalf of all of mankind, I would like to hereby plead with Gretchen and Slade to do us all a favor and consider not procreating at all… Truly, it would be your gift to us.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter!

Vicki, Briana, Ryan and Troy are driving to San Diego for the big Marine Corps ball.  I’m a little confused, because it’s only an hour and a half away from where they live – and Briana is saying she’s nervous about leaving Troy for the whole night – yet Vicki is in the car with them and is staying at the US Grant hotel with them (in a different room).  Briana is afraid that Troy is going to do something miraculous like learn to walk and she’ll miss it.  We find out on the car trip that Ryan has 3 months of training to do and then he’s going to be deployed back to Afghanistan for about 11 months.  Vicki is freaking out like we all knew she would.  Briana thinks this year is going to be “pretty terrible” – and doesn’t know how she’s going to wake up every morning knowing her husband is in Afghanistan and potentially in a war zone. Ryan is sad and says he’s going to miss Troy so much… Briana asks him if she’s chopped liver?  What Ryan meant was that he was going to miss out on so many things that will happen during the 11 months of Troy’s life while he’s gone. (By the way…thanks for your service to our country, Ryan! We see in this scene while one person may be serving in the military – but it’s their whole family that shares in their service and sacrifice…) Ryan - Thank You For Your ServiceThey get to the hotel and get changed for the evening.  Everyone is dressed for the Ball, and Vicki tells Troy to tell his mommy that she looks beautiful!  Ryan appreciates that Briana said she would go to the Ball so soon after giving being pregnant.  In the sad point of the evening, as they’re walking out – Briana has to specifically ask Ryan if she looks nice… he quickly responds that she looks great… Hey Ryan, a general rule of thumb should be that if someone in your life goes out of their way to look nice, tell them for goodness’ sake!

Heather and Terry are going for a formal apology dinner so Terry can grovel at Heather’s feet for the 89th time.  Puhleeze.  Heather tells Terry that when it’s her moment – don’t take it away.  Of course, she orders some “Champs”… oops, “Chumps”… and Terry tells her that he’s been kind of an idiot for the past two weeks… She says, “Perhaps longer than 2…”  He was afraid that her going back to work would put additional pressure on him.  Heather thinks his behavior looks jealous.  Terry says that it might be that Heather is being maybe a little sensitive – but that it’s no reason for him to use the “D” word (divorce).  He explains that he used it because it was a situation wherein he wanted to shock her – he didn’t mean it and that he would die before he would let anything happen to their relationship.  Heather expresses to him that she thinks he likes to push her buttons and in most cases she tries to laugh it off – but when she doesn’t think it’s funny – then he needs to know it’s time for him to just let it go.  Terry has been wracking his brain as to what to do for Heather and he decided to give her a nice card – Heather says that’s what she really needed.  In it, he wrote:  “Sometimes pretty smart people can say pretty stupid things.  I’m sorry and I am as in love with you today as I was when we got married.  I know I can be a jerk but it doesn’t mean that I love you any less than ever.  Please forgive me and I won’t forget how much this has hurt you. I love you.”  He continues with a verbal, “I am sorry, there are just no words.”  And the ice queen, aka “Her Royal Heathership’s” heart melted… (Note:  Heather read the hand written words on the card very, very smoothly – pausing in just the right places, etc. He does have pretty good handwriting for a doctor, but still… It really felt like she had already read it a bazillion times – but this one was for the cameras… but perhaps I’m just being cynical.)

Alexis at Tramp PlaceSince there are no real storylines for Alexis, we again get treated to a close-up of the Sky Zone Indoor Trampoline Park sign.  Alexis says that she’s totally bored with all of her work out mechanisms – but fortunately, you can work out at Sky Zone through a class called, “Skyrobics” – I get it – Aerobics + Sky Zone Trampoline Park = New workout!  How convenient! Nice product promotion there, Alexis.  This answers our question, “Why in the heck did Alexis come back on the show this year?”  The trainer is bouncing on the trampolines and flipping from one to the other.  Alexis declares she’s “going to boing – not flip.”  I dunno, do two mounds of silicone flip well?  That could be kinda funny…

Tamras Mom Giving Pep TalkTamra is getting dressed for her big speech and her mom is there as Tamra puts on her makeup.  She tries to give Tamra a pep talk.  “You’re not nervous, are you? You haven’t been afraid of anything your whole life why would this scare you?”  In this week’s installment of, “I kid you not” Tamra says that more than anything she wants to be inspirational to these women.  Really Tamra, really? What have you exhibited in your own life that would possibly inspire your audience? Yep, Tamra, you really had to struggle for years and years between your divorce from a semi-financially secure Simon to when you started dating financially secure Eddie. And then you had to hold down three jobs simultaneously just to make ends meet – oh wait, you didn’t?  That’s right – you were a “Real Housewife of Orange County” making all kinds of money.  While, I’m sure that getting divorced while on a reality show is really, really tough (no, really, I’m actually serious) – I think you have a major disconnect from what most single, divorced moms go through – You’ve had everything handed to you on a silver platter and you don’t even recognize it.  You were single for what, like a whole 2 seconds?  Grrrr… Tamra’s mom tells her to “Just relax.”  Tamra, in her talking head alerts us that her mom is going to hear some things that she may not want to hear in her speech.  Holy Blindside, Batman!  How nice and grown up of you to blindside your mom in front of a thousand people, Tamra.  How totally inspirational!  Are you freakin’ kidding me?

Lydia and her MomLydia’s mom is over at her house teaching Lydia how to make lasagna and to potentially endure more Judgy McJudgerson’s disapproval about her lifestyle.  As they were growing up, Lydia explains that her mom taught her brothers and sisters how to have fun – how to take a flower and pick the petals off and toss them into the air!  On the other hand, Doug is the one who taught Lydia the more practical things – like how to cut onions.  Lydia tells her mom that she didn’t like how their last talk ended.  Her mom said that she almost cried because it felt like Lydia was saying that she wasn’t there for her.  Her mom confirms that she never smokes pot around Lydia’s children.  Lydia tells her mom that she is the most important person to her beside “her boys” (aka her husband and sons).  Lydia tells her mom that she models so much of what she does for the boys after what her mom taught her.  Lydia says, “I love you and I think you are a good mom.”  She tells us that she hates that her mom smokes pot – but she wants her mom to be in her life and she doesn’t want to push her away.  Hopefully, we don’t have to hear about this subject again…

Tamra and her mom are walking through the venue at the “Los Angeles Ultimate Women’s Expo” and they hear the announcement of Tamra’s upcoming speech and Tamra gets absolutely giddy.  Tamra wants “to make a positive impact on these women’s lives.”  Really?  Why don’t you start by using your nice words and your inside voice with those around you?  Tamra gets up to speak and starts out with, Tamras Speech“You make me seem so important… I don’t know why I’m here… I know somebody’s going to be fired tomorrow.” Nothing but crickets chirping in the background… Well that – and the thud of the person’s head rolling that hired her.  She continues to tell them she wants to inspire people to do things they might be otherwise scared of doing – which is also true of her. (Gag)  In a lame attempt to provoke sympathy, she tells the audience that she grew up in a “tough” family – where “love was a 4 letter word that you didn’t talk about or think about.”  (Okay, keep in mind… this conference is in Los Angeles, one of the most ethnically and socio economically diverse areas of the country – and she’s saying she came from a “tough” family because they didn’t use the word “love.”)  Tamra describes herself to her audience as “outspoken” and no one was ever going to tell her what to do.  She hides behind sarcasm and humor because she doesn’t know if she’s accepted or liked.  (Get out the violins)… She said that she suffers from such low self-esteem that she looked for love in other places (Yes, she should have said that she looked for love in all the wrong places, then we’d actually have a song to sing at this point).  She was sexually active at 14, pregnant at 17 and married her high school sweetheart soon thereafter.  She was divorced by 21 and then attempted to commit suicide by taking a whole bunch of prescription medication and ended up in a mental hospital.  Tamra said that her 20’s were the worst years of her life.  Then she got married to a man who told her what to do, what to wear and what to think.  She moved out of that relationship 3 years ago and it was the hardest thing for her to do.  She then throws out every cliché she can think of (cue cheesy background music):  “When bad things come your way, they always say a new door opens.” “It’s never ever too late to follow your dreams.” “Never allow yourself to be a victim – always be a survivor.” And, my personal favorite and one that is soon to be on a T-shirt for your purchasing pleasure, “Strong is the new skinny.” She really came across as inauthentic to me… but then perhaps I know way too much about her.  I was surprised to see that she is scheduled to speak at this year’s conference as well.  However, it looks like Kyle Richards is also speaking and quite frankly, has a much better billing to be honest. Perhaps Bravo is encouraging this so that they get more viewers… I just don’t get it… I mean of all the housewives in all the land, they chose Tamra?  I don’t get it…

After the speech, Tamra asks her mom what she thought about the speech and of course she thought it went well.  Her mom asks her, “Do you tell your children you love them all the time?”  Tamra confirms that she tells them “I love you” every day. Tamra asks her mom, “How come you didn’t tell me you loved me?”  Her mom honestly tells her that when she grew up her mom and dad never said that to her either – and that it was the same situation for Tamra’s dad.  In her talking head, Tamra says, “I knew exactly what I was doing when I invited my mom…My mom needed to hear this…and after I knew what direction my speech was going to go in – I thought it was the perfect opportunity to have her listen.” Her mom cries, “You kids knew I love you.”  Tamra said that her only memory of someone saying “I love you” was once when her dad told her as she was walking out the door when she was 21 years old – and when she got outside she broke down and cried.  Tamra says people think she has this cold, hard, exterior… but it’s because she doesn’t know how to show emotion at all.  Tamra thinks that giving this speech made her understand that not knowing how to express emotions brings out the anger in her.  Really?  This speech did all that?  Her mom expresses that she’s sorry – that she didn’t know any better.  Tamra says that she’s not blaming her… (cough, cough) Tamra says that it’s hard for her to even tell her own mom she loves her… her mom says that she knows it is.  She can make a joke about it – she can get sarcastic about it… but her mom assures Tamra that she knows that Tamra loves her.  Tamra says, “I have a hard time controlling my anger – and I want to change it.”  Her mom says adoringly, “You are my best work… I love you!”  Wait, is it too late to ask her mom to go back to the drawing board?  If only…

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Happy Birthday WindyCityWondering

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299 Responses to Real Housewives of Orange County

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It’s hump day and the weather is looking fine. I hope you have a piece of it in your neck of the woods.

    Lulu we are sitting in pins and needles hoping you are ok and #2 son has arrived. I say 7lbs 7oz. 🙂

    Nancy I pray your sis has a successful surgery today. Bless you and your family.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      It’s going to be a stormy day in Huskerland today/tonight. We’re already in a thunderstorm watch. Hoping that doesn’t turn into a warming or contain the word tornado. I’m watching the Weather Channel right now and it looks like the worst of it will be south and west of me. Tornado Alley will be active today! I can now hear the rain as I sit in my office. We’re off and running!

    • BB says:

      I predict 8lbs 3 oz.

      • AZGirl says:

        Wow! if you are close.. poor Lulu! I am thinking 6lbs 8oz

        • LaineyLainey says:

          i GUESSED 8LBS 10oz. i guess that’s kinda huge but I had big ones. (c-sections)

        • BB says:

          Well, mine were 8lbs8oz and 8lbs15oz (both girls), so to me that’s normal. Lol!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            same here, BB. My first was two weeks late 9 lbs, 14 oz. Second was one week early 8 lbs, 14 oz. Big ole babies.

            • BB says:

              Mine weren’t C-sections (ouch!)

              • LaineyLainey says:

                YOu win? LOL!! Wait, I take that LOL back…that is no laughing matteer…that is a big baby to give birth to. I actually tried to pass the first one…but after 19 hours of labor…they decided to cut him out of me. I was exhausted, like a deflated balloon for days after that. But an hour or so after my second c section’s anesthesia wore off, I had makeup on was laughing and joking, eating bon bons… 🙂 What a difference.

        • ladebra says:

          I guessed 6 lbs. 10 oz .. And then I looked on my birth certificate and I was 6 lbs 14 oz… Sorta esp-ish!

    • chismosa says:

      Oh ok so no confirmation– I feel like I’m hearing a lot of 6 pounders lately. 6/12

      Unless there was some back info I forget where Lulu mentioned how much her other child was when born. ??
      Plus I know that old wives’ tale that you give birth the same size that you yourself were born. I see that with everyone I know — but then there is the Chinese birth chart/ necklace test, but that’s sex of baby and she knows its a boy already

      Nevertheless good luck !!! 👶👶👯👯👯 :mrgreen:

      • LaineyLainey says:

        That’s mos def not true chismosa…I was 6 lbs at birth. My first was 9 lbs, 14 oz; second one was 8 lbs, 14 oz. But then again, I am 5’2 married to a man who is 6’5″. Oh and he’s the baby daddy.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          ala Maury Povich….”Mr. Lainey…YOU ARE the babies’ daddy”

        • chismosa says:

          Omg that is some big height difference! Yes I have a friend who is only 5’2 maybe? And husband is 6’3 and babies still wound up what her weight was.
          I don’t know.
          Then I checked around with every single person I knew who got pregnant that I knew of in the past 10 years and the Chinese chart were all correct on sex of the baby for them but when I do my mother it is inaccurate!?!?! For both myself and my brother. I’m talking 20 or so people ive quizzed. Ridiculous

          Your kids must be TALL 🚶🚶
          I told my girlfriend not to worry her boys will have to be tall with their father being so tall! She’s worried. 🙉 😆

          • LaineyLainey says:

            yes, my kiddos are Tall!!! Lucky them!! Son is about 6’2″, daughter is 5’10″…they also got their slender build from their dad’s side of the family. We always joke that if we had had a third, that one would be short and round (and super loveable and cuddly) like me!!!

            • chismosa says:

              Oh ok thought your son was going to be like 6’6– I don’t know why but everywhere around me I grew up with men who were far taller than their fathers. Im talking people unrelated to me. Not that your son’s not tall AT ALL.

              my dad is barely 5’8 and my bro is 6’1 — I always account it to his eating healthy growing up. (My mom is tiny like you 🙂 )

              Sorry I’m just obsessed with all things genetic and traits and stuff. 🙅🙅:roll:
              Eye colors, hair, skin types, height. Obsessed! I dream of green-eyed kids and my friend who majored in biology always breaks the bad news to me 😦
              No go. Lol

              (I also wish for female identical twins because I have a TON of them in my family, skipping every 2 generations but we know that’s an anomaly as well)
              Don’t give me twins unless they’re identical. Thanks. (Message to god/fates/destiny)

              Ok Bio101 rant OVER. Lol 😜

              • chismosa says:

                My roll didnt work
                🙄 🙄
                Tesssssssting

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Yes, genetics can be fun. But the really important genetic questions relate to diseases, you know? My husband’s father watched his mother and two sisters die from complications of Huntington’s Chorea

                http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Huntington_Chorea_disease

                Before we conceived, we did go to a geneticist and based on the info we had available to us, it was determined that my F-I-L was not a carrier. So we rejoiced and felt free to try to create a new life. And then, just for fun, he told us that our kids would most likely be dark like me, but tall like my hubby. And it came true…but then it was what he saw in our genes. Basically only one in seven of our kids could possibly have the recessive blue eyed gene (not brown)…and he said that being tall is also a dominant gene. There was a one in 6 or 7 chance in our kid being a shortie (like me). The kids are free of the Huntington’s Chorea gene; so whether they be short, tall, thin, fat, brown-eyed, blue-eyed…etc…none of that mattered as long as we knew that we hadn’t knowingly sentenced them to that cruel disease.

                By the way, We would have tried for adoption (and were mentally ready for that) if we’d been told there was a chance of us (my husband) passing along the HC gene.

                • chismosa says:

                  On my goodness of COURSE that is where genetics matter.
                  I have not heard of this, I will read the link – I must jet for a while and be back later. Have to ask my father what chorea / horea means as I’m sure it’s totally a greek thing

                  I’m so happy you dodged that. So do your kids have to be tested as well? When they want to have children?

                  My first cousin was born Down’s syndrome lived only to about 3 or 4, died of leukemia I believe. Due to that my mother was subsequently advised to get amnios on both me and my brother (this was the late 70’s). They told her to do that though now, I still can’t come to a firm conclusion with all my research if DS is an inherited thing

                  I joke about all that fun stuff but of course the health matters are what are most important!

                  If I had the money I’d get the BRCA test- though no b/o cancer that we know of in my family, I’d send for the genetic DNA test swab you could do for an overall check, forget what that’s called.
                  I want to get a mammogram before 40 and I’d get a colonoscopy if I could. I’m all about obvious forms of testing

                  Meanwhile every friend of mine never went to a doctor NOR a gynecologist until they were pregnant. 😡
                  Infuriating to me.

                  I know “orea” means beautiful. I have to look into this, will check back with you later today

                  Blessings to you Lainey! You ARE blessed

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    No, well, according to genetic studies in the 80s we were told that our kids can’t pass along that gene. Males display the disease if they are carriers. My father-in-law never displayed it, and it normally shows up in your late twenties to early thirties. Females can carry the gene and not display it. So, since my F-I-L never displayed it, he was not a carrier. That’s what we were told back THEN. We should be doing some new research before our own kids procreate.

                  • LaineyLainey says:

                    so, Chorea is “movement” I think. Perhaps the correct term is now “Huntington’s Disease” and HC was an older term for the same thing – my late father-in-law was always told “the disease” was called Huntington’s Chorea.

              • shamrockblonde says:

                I am the oldest – my Mom is 5 ft 2 – my Dad was 6 ft 2 – I am 5 ft 2 like my Mom – my sister is 5ft 10 and my my brother is 6 ft 1 both tall like my Dad – both of my parents had dark hair – I am a strawberry blonde – both of my parents are right handed – I am left handed – both my sister and brother are right handed – my sister has dark hair and resembles Jackie Kennedy – my brother has my hair coloring, but before he came along I seriously thought that I was adopted – not right handed, not dark hair not even blue eyes – I have green eyes – when people see my sister and I together they almost never think we are sisters and almost always think she is older than I, but I think that its a height thing – twins run in our family, but it was still a shock when my daughter announced that she was having twins – they are identical right down to their weight – one twin is a few ounces more than the other – both the exact same height – watching them though the years has been just so amazing –

                • chismosa says:

                  Shamrock just responding now— love that height difference especially among you and the women in the family.

                  I don’t know why I find it all so interesting
                  Ps all my closest friends are all Irish – like 1000000%– and they’ll often have very dark-ish skin tone/ eyed/haired person in the family that they call the black Irish in the sea of redheads and blondes.

                  Are your daughter’s kids identical?? So do identicals run in your family? (i know fraternals run in families. )
                  Maybe there’s hope for me yet …..

                  Haha lol

                  • shamrockblonde says:

                    hi chimosa – twins do run in our family – there are four sets in my family, but my daughters’ are the only identical ones – my brother also has twin boys, as do two of my cousins – my daughters’ were also the first set born – my brothers’ were the last –

            • chismosa says:

              Ps 5’10 is tall for a girl!
              I want to know how Alec Baldwin’s daughter got to be so freakishly tall. She’s 6 ft 2!!!! For a woman that is ginormous. Her parents are not that tall!!!??? I know Kim B is tall but not that that above average for a model. Plus not sure if she was a runway, who have to be taller

              ———-
              Genetics …..
              “It’s my obsession…..who do you want me to be to make you sleep with me……”

              • LaineyLainey says:

                Ireland Baldwin…she is really, really tall. And so very beautiful. With such good looking parents, it makes sense, doesn’t it? Her mom, especially. My husband and I are always amazed that two such NOT BEAUTIFUL people created two beautiful children. But now I’m bragging. Sorry…

                HOWEVER, neither of them (our kids) were athletic at all…they both would have really liked that – to be athletic. Haha!!! But you can’t have it all. Unless you’re one of those fortunates that do have it all!!! You know you’re out there!!!

                • chismosa says:

                  I know I’m in the minority but I don’t find Ireland that pretty. Average to me. It’s the blonde plus height that pulls it together.
                  Alec is more handsome to me and Kim more beautiful. Jmho!
                  The height is what gets me….. What, where, huh? Lol

                  Ps I have a theory I always believed that 2 average-to-modestly good looking people are the ones who produce the GORGEOUS people. Check it out ! I firmly believe it.

  2. Powell says:

    Happy Birthday WindyCityWondering.

    • BB says:

      It’s a shame they are wasting NJ taxpayer money going with a jury trial. He was caught red handed and he needs to take his punishment like a man. These guys think they are above the law because they keep getting off with a little smack on the hand.

      • chismosa says:

        Freakin unbelievable. I read yesterday that they had FINALLY set the date for July but then there was new evidence/ discovery/ whatever …..

        Unbelievable. Maybe he thinks this will just get tossed after it took so long? 🙄 ❓ ❗
        😡😡

      • Rebecca says:

        There is no doubt, NO DOUBT in my mind that Juicy has all kinds of mob connections. Look at how the Jersey women try to beat down Teresa but how quickly the househusbands cower to him when confronted. (Biggest example – Shit-Stirrer Kathy refuses to acknowledge that Juicy told the guys how to flip houses, but Juicy says it and no one contradicts him.)

        I think he is drawing this out to find something to hold against the judge/prosecutor which will allow him to get off with the minimal sentence.

        • chismosa says:

          I could be wrong and very well may be— please forgive me!!!– but I feel like we heard confirmation from Mel and/or Kathy last season that yes, Joe guid may have initially shown little Joey how to get into that business but then Joey went off on his own?
          I didn’t know if Richie did building, I thought be just owned stuff that was already set up. Of course, Kathy could speak to the issue of the Joes since she knew them back then.

          Again, forgive me if wrong.

          • Powell says:

            Chismosa I remember that Mel said that. I can’t remember if Rich does/did homes..

            • chismosa says:

              Thanks Powell, I had thought so but didnt know for sure

              Hope you got to watch your Real Househusbands reunion!

        • chismosa says:

          Oh also I’ll never forget how the camera caught mr Gorga— ter’s father saying, right before they left for Naples and the cruise a few years back— “that’s where the mafia is!” — because in Italy the mob is there— Naples. Naples has big problems.

          But they were referring to mob over there in that moment. Not Italian- American mob

    • ladebra says:

      I think they are postponing hoping that the officer that stopped him will leave the force and not be able to testify. POS

    • Cathy Connor says:

      Hi NMD, has anyone heard from HilDogAtl since her Mom passed I hope she doing ok….

  3. AZGirl says:

    Happy Birthday WindyCity!

  4. Rebecca says:

    OK, so the real question is, how many times did you yell “STFU Tamra” while watching the episode?

    • jezzibel says:

      Bravo is doing the sympathy spin for Tammy sue to make her more palatable for her wedding spin off, they are just trying to recoup the money they spent on that old broken down nag.

    • Shiny says:

      Bet the speech consultant never meant “Share every single one of your icky personal life details.” How was that supposed to be inspiring? If she was supposed to talk about entrepreneurship to inspire the women in the audience, starting with her divorce and lack of previous independence would have been plenty of sharing. Most of what was shown of that speech was way too much sharing – ick ickity ick.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        She couldn’t even fake being interesting or accomplished or wise. I guess that’s not something one can fake. You either are, or you aint.

      • Birdwoman says:

        I yell it all the time when Tamra is on my tv screen. 🙂

        I listened to her speech twice. I don’t like her but I really tried to remain neutral while listening to her speech. The main problem I had with her speech is that I don’t find that she has done anything different than she has done before (according to her). She jumped from one relationship to another. As far as I am concerned, Eddie seems like the same guy Simon was: controlling. She still completely defines her self worth completely by her looks and since she and I are about the same age she must be terrified. She is getting older, her looks are fading and her personality is horrible. The ugliness inside is becoming more pronounced. Her hatred of better looking women is because she is realizing that she can’t compete with them in the looks dept. anymore. But she has never developed anything else about herself. I want to feel sorry for her because it sucks to be in that situation but I really can’t feel much sympathy. Being cruel to others is not ok even if it is required to stay on some reality show.

        • Powell says:

          Birdwoman you are so right. What will she be able to offer the world as her looks fade? She has a nasty personality and she has a heart of stone.

      • Powell says:

        But that’s Tamra Shiny. She doesn’t know how to be tactful or how to not overshare. We all remember the bathtub scene. Ick, ickity, Ick. I had to borrow that Shiny. 🙂

    • melthehound says:

      Just once. At the beginning, to cover the entire episode. I don’t watch but listen unless I hear one of the sympathy path tricks these reality people use. Sobbing Voice (or about to sob voice) is a favorite when they want to make themselves seem human. After all, who could trash a crying woman? Kyle is a master at this. TammySue would do well to connect with her because when I’m listening and decide to get up and look, I want to see wet eyes. Not necessarily full on sobfest but watering eyes. Nothing. I think the only watering eyes were on those in the audience and it was out of sheer boredom. Tell me, ladies.. Were any of you inspired by that mess? I read a couple stories yesterday, here on the blog, that I thing would qualify much more as a story of get past your demons and make something of yourself. TammytSue would also do well to stop by here and read some of those stories. Somehow, I doubt she would get it. In fact, I don’t think any of them would get it.

      By the way, I can’t say I remember my parents ever saying, ‘I Love You’. Not saying they didn’t but it isn’t what I remember about them. They did the best they could with what they had and that’s all I have any right to expect of them. What I do, have done, or will do, is all on me. No one puts words in my mouth and no one holds a gun to my head to make me do anything (or not).

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Those sweet STFU moments. Those are times I really miss VV. She was the STFU specialist.

        • ladebra says:

          Where is VV?

          • TexasTart says:

            I don’t know, but as I recall it was near the end of Beverly Hills, she would check in late for chats and remarked her FIL was about to pass. I think he was in hospice for years and possibly under her roof. I don’t think we’ve heard from her but a couple times after he passed away. One could speculate that she was involved in his care and had more time to chat with us then. It was after she quit posting that I started posting more stuff from Twitter, to kinda fill that void, cuz I liked her informative posts. It would be nice for her to pop and and say hello again!

            What’s up in the peanut gallery, I have not the time today, just popped in and mention of “VV” caught my eye.

            • ladebra says:

              I hope her not being here is because she is doing things she loves, with people who love her, and her life is all she dreams of and when she has a moment she will be back to tell Kyle to STFU! 💕

            • chismosa says:

              Thanks Texas, I totally APPRECIATE your twitter posts btw.

              I miss VV! I hope she is well. I miss talking Bethenny with her. 😦

      • HuskerHuny says:

        There was no inspiration in that talk at all – only excuses. Her life is one big excuse; it’s never her fault. Mistake after mistake she makes, but it’s never her fault. God bless her children and that they may break this cycle.

        • Catseye says:

          I agree!! I also wonder how many men she went through, between her first divorce and finally hitting the financial jackpot with Simon? Just watching her turn every possible remark into a sexual innuendo and her own admitted history of having sex when she was barely out of puberty, makes me think she had SEVERAL. Maybe she was so drunk she can’t remember, so she didn’t bring it up.

      • T-Rex says:

        MTH- My parents were not the “I love you folks” either, we even discussed this as a family when my dad passed away, my mom said that she wished “daddy” had said I love you more to us kids because he really was so proud of us and loved us. Our answer, from all three of us almost simultaneously, was that we didn’t need to HEAR those words, we knew every day that our parents loved us. They showed us in the many things they did for us, it wasn’t necessary to hear this. Mind you I grew up in the late 60’s and 70’s and that’s how most parents were at that time. I dislikeTrailerTrashTrampySue more than ever(if that was possible) for this because what POS blindsides her mother with that, and we all know she has professed many times how great her mother was growing up. I bet TrailerTrashTrampSue was more like those “moron” Teen moms on Vh1, and not as she protrayed in that socalled speech

        • Contessa says:

          I was totally disgusted by Tramprats speech at the expo. What has she done to empower women – nothing! This boo-hoo bs about not being told she was loved??? Give me a break. Just another excuse for her bad behavior and to clean up her image for her new show – that is what that speech was all about. This putrid conniving POS comes out on a stage with that sad act, for me it was an insult to the 100 women (not 1000) sitting there. Tramprat has used her looks and her body to get men, marry them, have them support her. She divorced Simon and went right into another relationship. Oh yes she did open her dream business – but not on her own, Eddie is her partner and helped underwrite her hobby. I have read and heard many more stories here about empowerment, than this ridiculous BS that Tramprat gave us on screen. Without the HW she would be nothing, and forced to work a regular 9-5 job, like most people. Simon wasn’t controlling, he was watching our for her behavior and was concerned about embarrassment to their family. Eddie is not the winner she thinks he is.

        • melthehound says:

          The moronic teen moms are on MTV 😉 … that is unless you’re into porn.. You can watch Farrah get it on with a real live ‘porn star’… but I digress, I agree, she is them in 20 or so years.

      • Powell says:

        “What I do, have done or will do, is all on me.” I like that MTH.

      • Stars99 says:

        Yeah, Mel… My parents didn’t outright tell me “I love you” very often… or “I am proud of you”… They didn’t say it to each other, though – either. It just wasn’t part of their culture during their lifetime. They were also not very big huggers… The thing is… that doesn’t mean that’s how I conduct my life… I am probably one of the biggest mushes you’ll ever meet…. I say it whenever I think it… and I am a hugger of those who are open to being hugged – because I truly believe people should know you care about them.

        • Boobah says:

          (((Stars)))

        • melthehound says:

          For me, it wasn’t that important. Of course I like to hear it but it never ended my life if I didn’t (obviously). As for pride, I could see it in their faces, just as I could disappointment.

          • Stars99 says:

            OMG… the worst words ever: “I am disappointed in you.”… That hurt worse than any spanking… Yeah, my mom may not have told me often that she was proud of me… but I just rescued a photo album from my brother (I haven’t seen it in like a million years)… and in it she had some articles about me from the newspaper and stuff from when I was in high school and college… she may not have said it… but she showed it.

    • Powell says:

      HA!

    • Stars99 says:

      LOL – Rebecca… are you sure you want to know? lol

  5. jules says:

    Great recap Stars99, as usual. I don’t feel like I missed anything by not watching the mess. I can’t get over the fact that Tamra will go on national television and degrade Simon, the father of three of her children. Does she really think they won’t hear about it? I don’t even care if it’s true. In my opinion, it’s just bad parenting to speak of the other parent so disrespectfully at all never mind in such a public way. Is she really that desperate for attention? Stupid question I suppose. While I didn’t watch the show, I can tell you the only thing I learned from her speech is that I’m glad she’s not my mother!

    Happy birthday WindyCity! Congratus to Lulu on the new baby.

    • chismosa says:

      Fantastic recap Stars, and wonderful disclaimer!!!

      • Shiny says:

        Stars, the disclaimer was a great start to the morning – full body guffaw.

        Wonderful recap – I nod and laugh all the way through – you’re much more entertaining than any of those old housewives could ever hope to be.

        • Stars99 says:

          Shiny – Who could ask for a better response than a “full body guffaw.” I love it! Thanks for your kind words…

      • Stars99 says:

        lol chismosa… hope your brain didn’t melt too much… = )

    • ladebra says:

      Great recap Starz! I know what you mean about the Vicky and Brooks segment. They hit all the bullet points: 1) she wasn’t letting her daughter tell her who to date 2) she wasn’t going to ask her daughter to leave 3) Brooks is working (cause its a work day and they can’t drink wine at lunch) 4) he is seeing his children because he is unavailable the next weekend. But then they just didn’t seem at ease with each other. Thinking back at the other Vicky and Brook interactions on camera, they never seem at ease. Maybe they shouldn’t be on camera. But wait, that’s not going to happen 😜

      • Powell says:

        They’re not at ease because w/all Vicki’s tears& so called trepidation about what Brianna & everyone has to say Vicki is NOT in love w/or truly cares about Brooks. She’s scared to death to be w/o a man. She stayed w/Donn way beyond what she should have if the affairs both ways have occurred but for her its better to have a man that’s unfaithful or that she may not love just to have a man.

      • Stars99 says:

        ladebra – It’s really weird about Vicki and Brooks, right? It’s almost like she’s focused on proving everyone else wrong to her own detriment… hopefully, she will see his true colors soon…

    • Powell says:

      Jules I can imagine those ladies drive home, them discussing Tamra’s speech.

    • Stars99 says:

      Jules – You’re so right about Tamra – The kids are gonna get old enough to know how not cool it is for their mom to slam their dad on national TV…all for her own self-interests. Simon probably couldn’t care less what Tamra says about him at this point – but I’ll bet he cares if his kids are continuing to be hurt by her words. And I’m no Simon fan…

      • mrs peabody says:

        I think it wasn’t so much of Simon being controlling but more of him trying to keep her from not embarrassing herself (and him) on national tv. He knew what a tramp she was and that she had no filter so why wouldn’t he want to keep her from saying horrible things. Why he married her is beyond me and why he agreed for her to be on this show is a mystery to me also.

  6. Birdwoman says:

    Happy Birthday Windy City!!!!

  7. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Happy Birthday WCW!!!
    Lulu-thinking of you #babywatch2013. #blogbaby

    Starzy-great job as usual!! Isn’t that Tamra just so nice to invite her mother to hear her speech? And then promptly throw the poor woman right under the bus?? She is so charming…what a bitch!!!!

    • chismosa says:

      JILL—- as I may not catch you later for a while, I finally watched Newlyweds this week. I watched the Jeff and Blair couple, who I usually ff through.

      I was tearing up for poor Jeff. He didnt have ANY fambly that would come? Not a cousin, aunt, uncle? Is his father deceased? So incredibly sad to me.

      There was a True Life I believe on MTV where it was the crazy weddings and one couple was a gay couple, one hispanic guy and another more Anglo-looking guy (not calling him white bc you can be white and Hispanic)— and the Waspy-looking guy’s mom RELUCTANTLY came to the wedding (maybe the cameras also annoyed her?) …….well she was blurred out. No big deal
      But at least she CAME
      I felt so badly for Jeff. Blair seems to love him a lot so I hope they stay married forever and his mom (and dad?) truly love him.

      Just wanted to let you know I caught it!

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I was so sad for Jeff-that really sucked that he had no family there but his MIL loves him so much-at least he has that!!!

        Remember I told you all I was going to the wine event where Kelly from NY was going to be -and Melissa Gorga,Perez Hilton and a few others? Well guess what-they added another CELEB-are you all ready for my big reveal????? None other than…PATTY STANKER!!! Who is luckier than me????? I’m so going to try to talk to her just so I have a story to tell you all-and if anyone gets pushed in the pool by me it will Patty-she tops my list!!!!

        • Cathy Connor says:

          OMG Jill you are the luckiest gal ever !! I dare you to wear a red wig to that event (you know how she loves redheads) Please let us know how that goes cant wait to hear your recapp on the night ….

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Cathy-such luck!!! Who else can they get to really make this an event to remember??? Maybe JZ herself???

            • cusi77 says:

              Jill!!!!!!!! (I am cracking up!) IF you wear that red hair wig, I will send you a dress made out of sofa fabric to match perfectly with your looks!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            oh, that infuriates me, how she’s so insulting to redheads. Such a jerky thing to do. I’m not even a red head and it hurts my feeling??!!

            • Cathy Connor says:

              Shes just jelly lol Help me out where have I seen her boyfriend seems like I have seem him on like a bachelor pad type of show before ????

              • Powell says:

                Hmm. I only saw him for a few minutes so I don’t know. Let us know when you figure it out.

            • chismosa says:

              Lainey I completely agree. I despise how she is with redheads.
              Either she knew one growing up that did something to her so she holds that against them, or she’s jelly.

              I wish she’d find out her birth mother was a redhead. Beyotch!!!!

          • Powell says:

            Cathy I just got that. Lol. 🙂

        • Powell says:

          JNNTJ I hope you do get to talk to Patti. I keep telling you all that Patti has something on Bravo or she had a hellafied contract.

        • chismosa says:

          Jill keep us posted! Can’t wait. Is it this weekend ? Very hot around here this w/e, perfect weather to toss one of those beyotches in a pool

    • Stars99 says:

      lol… Jill… the REAL Jill… Wasn’t that just ever so nice of her to do that? I mean, who does that crap?

  8. noreen7 says:

    Thank you for the hysterical recap. 100 times better than watching it!

    • Stars99 says:

      So glad you enjoyed it, noreen7 – Hopefully, your brain cells didn’t melt too much if you watched it.. lol… I lose some brain cells every time I watch, for sure!

  9. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I remember a interview that Oprah did with Mary J Blige-they were discussing her childhood and how rough if was-Mary wasn’t making excuses or putting the onus on her mom but she said something that I will never forget. She said about her mother “I blame my mother for nothing but forgive her for everything”.thats what I feel about my mother. She the the best she could with what she had-who could ask for or expect more from anyone? What Tamra did to her mother-in my eyes-was so rude and disrespectful.

    • ladebra says:

      Rude, disrespectful … and so Tamra Sue. Nothing is her fault – being a slut, being a mean girl, being a bad wife – all some else’s fault.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Jill, you got me thinking about something. My oldest brother (by nine years) has nothing good to say about his relationship with our mother, but myself, I had a great relationship with my mom. Could it have been better, yes, but I also believe that she did the best she could. It’s just so odd how my brother and I view it so differently. I blame my mother for nothing but forgive her for everything – I love that!

      • Kansas Girl says:

        HH, it’s the same with my brother and me. He blames our mother for all his failures in life and if it’s not her fault it’s her parents’ fault. I flat out think he’s nuts. I have told him many times it’s time to stop blaming everyone else and take control of his life. All the things he complains about, well, to me they are memories, things he’s invented from memories, and are non-issues. He’s nuts!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Good for you, KG!!! Keep telling him…it’s easier for him to blame than to take control of his own life. But you just keep telling him, what’s what. You are honoring your mother when you do that.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Husker Huny – one of my older sisters taught me the following lesson. (After I had said something less than flattering about our now departed dad.)

        If your brother is a Christian, remind him that one of the ten commandments is to HONOR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER. It doesn’t say, “…but only if they were perfect/sweet/loving/religious/good…” It says “HONOR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER….” The NIV verson: exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and mother. Then you will live a long, full life in the land the LORD your God is giving you.” It is the only commandment that gives you a consequence (a positive one). “Then you will live a long, full life…” It’s like a promise or a blessing, if you’ll just be obedient and do this one small thing. For some of us, it is a BIG THING. To honor them…means not to speak ill of them, or even think ill of them in life or death. Gee, could that mean to FORGIVE THEM for not being perfect. I do think so. We want that same grace from God, do we not? I know, I do. HONOR them even if they weren’t/aren’t perfect or even if they were not everything we’d hoped they would be/could be. Nancy is a perfect example of this commandment. (love you, nancy !)

        • HuskerHuny says:

          Oh Lainey, that brought tears to my eyes. This is exactly what he needs to hear. I have told him so many times that he turned out to be a great brother, husband, father and grandfather. He is the man he is today because of all of his life’s experiences, good and bad. It could have been so much worse. I wish he would just man up and get over it! Thank you for the scripture; it so grounded me.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I am so glad you felt blessed by the lesson my older sister taught ME. It made me, when I first heard this (he was alive at the time, I was in my late 20s), do a double take in regards to memories, forgiveness…all of it. It made so much good sense and was actually a GIFT to me; even though it was also a “correction” of sorts. I needed to hear it when I heard it and haven’t looked back since. Peace is what you get in return. Your brother needs this Peace; too bad he doesn’t know that he is the only one who holds the key.

  10. Butters'Mom says:

    I agree. Throwing her Mom under the bus was so wrong. My mother died when I was 12 I would give anything to have had more time with her. That girl needs to appreciate what she did have. Did they beat her?, feed her? put a roof over her head? TammySue’s family and childhood was not tough. Try not having a parent.

    Butters’Dad went without food as a child was beaten and sexually abused by stepfather, dropped out of high school and now has a master’s degree in physics. That is what over coming the odds are and being an inspiration is about. Gosh that woman makes my blood boil.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      (((Butters’Mom))) Great post!

    • Contessa says:

      That is a real and true empowerment story! Not the BS that Tramprat is spewing and than to throw her mother under the bus – what a pos.

    • Powell says:

      Butters’ Mom you said it. My mom & her 3 sisters were raised by their grandparents early on because their mother worked in a different State, their father lived in a different State after their parents divorced, then when my mom was 12 their mom was murdered & my mom went to live w/her aunt in NYC, her 2 older sisters got married & her youngest sis stayed w/their grandparents until their grandmother died then that sis joined one of the sister’s who was married. Their older sis died in her 50s, the other 2 sisters became nurses & my mom worked her way up to a management position in the police dept. My mom & her sisters turned hard knocks into hard work. My mom is the strongest woman I know. Nothing held her back & made her stronger when she raised me by herself. When we watch the news or her fav show the first 48 she says all that happened in her life she should be someone that said my life sucked I’m not going to do the right thing but she didn’t because she did learn right from wrong no matter how hard things were at times.

      • Catseye says:

        What a story! Your mother and aunts sound like strong, VERY inspirational women!

      • Lola says:

        My mother was raised by her aunt. At the age of 17 they took a trip to NYC. Her aunt gave her the option of staying in NYC or going back to the Island with her. My mom chose NYC. I never knew why she was raised by her aunt and not her mother because she had three other sisters and two brothers who were raised by the Mom. She let us know everyday how much she loved us. She became a social worker and helped so many in the community. Her phone rang at all hours of the day with people needing help. She helped each and every one of them. Even the ones she didn’t care for. She taught the officers at the local police department how to speak spanish. She was an honorary cop. lol She did and said a lot of things that were embarassing. She taught us to be self sufficient and not depends on others. I was lucky (I live in Kansas) enough to be allowed to spend the last weeks of her life with her. She was able to tell me that she had the best children on earth before she passed. She is truly my insipiration. Can’t Tamara see how much she hurt her mother? By the way Powell, I wrote this because it seems our Moms had a lot in common. She loved the first 48 and wanted to watch it while at the hospital. I told her it was too depressing but if thats what Momma wanted then that is what she got

    • chismosa says:

      Yes, inspiring story

      You are so right. Thanks for sharing

    • Stars99 says:

      Thanks for sharing, Butters’ Mom…A master’s degree in physics… whoa… the Rocky theme is playing in my head for some reason…

  11. princesspindy says:

    Stars great, great, great!!! I went down and got a new cup of coffee as soon as I opened and saw your blog, so excited!!!! Darn it, I decided this week I was going to stop saying mean things about the celebrities (faux and real)…..AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! So many insults, but I have to at least make it thru the week, lol!!! I missed the Marine Corps Ball scene. I will have to go back and see it. I have attended the Marine Corps Ball many times, in different cities and it is a wonderful event!!!! The pageantry and the patriotism are wonderful and amazing. And all the uniforms, hubba, hubba!!! I like that they call up the youngest and the oldest Marines to cut the cake. Just the presentation of the cake alone is worth attending!!! I have been to big Balls and small Balls (giggle) and size doesn’t matter they are always amazing!!! ( I will add that I have never seen more short men in my life except at a computer programming convention I went to in the 80s!!! I’m 5’9″ and you add heels I was towering over them, but they are like roosters, they strut their stuff!!!)

    • TexasTart says:

      PrincessPindy knows her way around Marine balls. giggle.

    • ladebra says:

      Omg, that little Ginger … You have the BEST gravatars !

    • pp… LOVE THE USMC DRESS BLUES…. I think they have the BEST dress uniforms… and Ryan does not REPRESENT the USMC well at all…I wonder if his MS/CO approves of his portrayal…Something OFF about him for sure…I don’t see that marriage lasting much longer…sorry kids…just that gut feeling… maybe the reason Ryan doesn’t want Brooks around is that he sees himself in him….time will tell for sure…
      trina train trampon… wow…what a poor excuse of a woman for sure…there was NOTHING empowering in her script at all …she has never learned to stand on her own… always having a man to make her whole is not the way to empowerment…. she would never survive 1/4 of what lots of here have gone thru in our lives, that’s for sure… guess she never heard the saying that actions speak louder than words……anyone can tell you they love you …. showing them they love you , for me , is more important…

      SO…. after trying to watch that mess on OWN last night..I was channel surfing and came across a show on Lifetime..EXTREME MOMS… whoa….. there are some sick ass women out there for sure….. UNREAL to say the least….so glad that I wont be around when that generation of kids grow up……

      Speaking of OWN…. don’t know how many of you TRIED to watch that Tyler Perry mess..but that was disgusting….piss poor acting… scenery… script…etc…. what the hell was Oprah thinking when she signed up for that !!!!!!!
      A writer for tv guide says this…………

      John Schneider is about to make J.R. Ewing look like a wimp. The former Smallville and Dukes of Hazzard fave is starring in Tyler Perry’s feverish new OWN sudser The Haves and the Have Nots as patriarch Jim Cryer, a fantastically wealthy, power-mad judge who intends to become Georgia’s next governor. Yet he’s happy to risk it all for the company of some high-priced hookers.
      I DON’T THINK SO…… LOL LOL LOL ……..

      ANY NEWS ABOUT LULU ?????

      HAPPY BIRTH DAY WCW…..

      hugs and peace
      diva

      • Kansas Girl says:

        You and I were channel surfing the same shows. But I skipped them based on the titles and went right for HGTV. I entertained myself watching a couple buy a house with a moldy bathroom that they planned to flip. (The house, not just the bathroom.) Then they had the “mold guy” come in and *gasp* they had MOLD! BAD mold! DANGEROUS mold! And it cost them a fortune to get rid of it. I spent a good hour laughing at them.

        • Powell says:

          Speaking of mold you have to check out Cynthia McFadden and Bill Weir-ABC New show Friday night called The Lookout. One of the segments will be about honest contractors. They will setup cameras in a woman’s house in NJ & say she has mold which she won’t. The homeowner will contact 7 contractors and we will see what they do & say. That should be good.

          • chismosa says:

            I watch them on Nightline every night. Maybe I’ll catch one of these

            Why does Cynthia McF wear those hideous wigs? Is there a legitimate reason? Just wondering

            • Powell says:

              Are you sure they’re wigs? I always remember her w/thick hair.

              • chismosa says:

                I feel I heard she does wear wigs and it looks like it— I watch it every night and she looks like Wendy Williams changing up a wig every day

                Maybe she has some sort of health issue.

      • Powell says:

        Diva I did like The Haves and the,Have Nots. It was slow in some areas in the middle but I did like it. Come on. The 1st four minutes Mr. Conyers was w/a call girl that turned out to be his daughter’s college friend & the maid’s daughter. That was good.

      • Catseye says:

        I saw EXTREME MOMS crap advertised on the National Geographic Channel, of all places. It didn’t look interesting to me in the least. I guess Lifetime is trying to compete with BRAVO.

    • Stars99 says:

      But, but, but Tiara… you’re not saying ANYTHING negative about celebrities? They’re not really celebrities… they’re Bravolebrities… if that makes any difference… although I do applaud your efforts to just say “no” to negativity…. but seriously, you’ll put me out of snark business… well, that is if I actually had one… lol

  12. TexasTart says:

    IDK but maybe RO has put some BS out about Lisa….I refuse to go to that site!

  13. plainviewsue says:

    Bravo once again Stars!!!! Fabulous write up, especially your own commentary. That is the best part!

    What can I add about Tammy Sue that hasn’t already been said? Pure trash & looking for sympathy. Ain’t gonna happen.

    All the blogs are up, except for her. I really have to give props to Alexis, who really does seem to see the good in all of them. None of the other ladies, except Lydia, even mention Lex in their blog.

    I am so over Heather & her scripted scenes with Terry. I am so over Gretchen.

    Brooks scares me more than last season. Ryan seems to be a bit controlling as well. The first thing he should of said to Briana was how beautiful she looked.

    • Rebecca says:

      Hey Twitter rockstar plainviewsue,

      Would you mind asking Fredrik what cologne he wears during MDLNY? Inquiring minds want to know.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        Can you smell him through your tv?

      • plainviewsue says:

        LOL! Don’t watch show.

        Quite a few HW’s have been responding to tweets. Vicki tweeted me yesterday. I had tweeted her regarding her blog & basically how I didn’t get why Lauri is acting like this when we all remember how close they were & Vicki giving her a job. She tweeted back “My how people forget, huh?”

        Tamra finally blocked me yesterday. I swear I never say anything mean & horrible!!!! I just questioned how based on how she was on WWHL, she hadn’t changed at all. Now, I ask you. Is that mean???????

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          NO Sue-that was not mean…I have seen people say way worse-you were just asking a question!!!!

        • Powell says:

          Sue you speak the truth & she “can’t handle the truth”.

        • Catseye says:

          I read elsewhere, over the weekend, that Tamra had tweeted that she had “just farted.” She’s such a crude, disgusting woman. I cannot imagine WHAT Heather sees in her as a friend. The ONLY reason must be that she is desperate to be on the show. Whether it’s for money or the exposure in hopes of reviving “her career,” who knows.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Catseye-after the famous “fart tweet” Tamra tweeted that Eddie had taken her phone and was acting silly and he was the one who tweeted that-but I wouldn’t put it past her to tell the world she farted!!!

    • Stars99 says:

      Thanks, Sue… but I’m sure you can add more stuff about Tammy Sue… C’mon… you can do it… lol… I hate to be out on a limb alone…. lolol

  14. TexasTart says:

    Stars! I bow to you and your behold your snark. Honestly, I had to recover from ROTFL from the warning, before I could read it all! 😀

    • Stars99 says:

      lol TexasTart – Sometimes these episodes require a disclaimer… they just do… lol… I would feel like i wasn’t doing my civic duty if I didn’t properly prepare people… lol

  15. Powell says:

    HLN just showed the OC finale party at Vicki’s when Tamra got up in Jeanna’s face and told her to “mind your FUC*ING business”, threw wine in Jeanna’s face & then pushed Jeanna towards the pool. Tamra is such a lovely person. NOT!!!!

    • Rebecca says:

      So…. Let’s recap:

      Tamra attacks Jeanna when Jeanna expresses empathy for Simon.
      Tamra attacks Alexis for hanging out with Simon.
      Tamra attacks Vicki when Vicki tells her to work it out with Simon.

      Am I missing anyone here?

  16. lillybee says:

    Happy birthday, WCW.

  17. princesspindy says:

    Happy Birthday WCW!!!

  18. T-Rex says:

    Stars99 you ROCK! with your blog. Trying to look at a time line, but does anyone know when TrailerTrashTrampySue got married to her first husband.?

    • Powell says:

      I don’t. Do you know how old Ryan is?

    • Stars99 says:

      Awww, thanks, my favorite dinosaur… I’m not sure but It seems like Tamra’s bouncing from one to another to another, no? If she said it during her speech, I must have hallucinated… lol… because I don’t remember either… (I’m a lil embarrassed if she did… lol)

  19. Powell says:

    PrincessP how are your little Princess & Prince doing these days?

  20. chismosa says:

    Lainey— ok I was able to read up about the Huntington’s. sounds related to MS in some way. So happy you are all happy and healthy.

    I am wondering if this was the disease that the Olivia Wilde character had on House when she was interning under him. I stopped the show after the Indian doctor “”killed”” himself. Awful storyline.

    She had something that she knew she was going to start showing symptoms of young ….. Hmmmm

    Ok hope you’re having a good day

    Hump away 💏💏💑💑 😆 😆

    • Rebecca says:

      Yes, she was diagnosed with Huntingtons.

      The only reason they killed of “Kumar” was because he was leaving to work for Obama.

      • chismosa says:

        Yeah I realize Rebecca why he was killed off and I found it so off-putting how they dealt with that. I left the show.
        Then after that I heard a lot of others had left as well due to that storyline , from articles and blogs I followed

        I was a die-hard fan.

        Re: Huntington’s — just read up last night, I had a feeling ! I was right it was what she had. I wonder if her character ever wound up showing signs. I know she was in clinical trials of some kind early on.
        I loved the actress that played one of the candidates, who dated Robert Sean Leonard / Wilson?- but was killed in the hallucinogenic bus crash. She’s on a USA show now
        Love her.

        Have a nice Thursday! 🌺🌻🌹 😛 😛

  21. Donna says:

    ROFLMAO at “Note” 🙂 🙂

  22. Orson says:

    I suspect the recent “Victimization of Tamra Ploy” was NOT planned when they finished taping. Strikes me that NONE of the other HWs are present at any of her “I’m a victim, not a bitch!” THs, just Eddie. I think Bravo figured out AFTER TAPING AND EDITING WAS DONE, and not long after the season began broadcasting that with Tamra going full speed bitch viewers were NOT going to tune into her wedding spin off in droves. So they got a crew and some writers and PAs together and planned, scripted, and taped some sympathetic bits of Tamra to insert into the previously completed episodes. So Bravo and Tamra are reacting to viewers’ comments from a month back. This episode was taped around Nov 10, right Pindy?

    Good recap, Stars. I don’t feel like I missed anything.

    • Powell says:

      That sounds plausible Orson. So Bravo said how can we improve Tamra Barney’s image? Someone on the team found this event in OC, contacted the event planner and got Tamra a spot then told her this is what you’re going to do to improve your image and get viewers for your spinoff? I can see that.

    • chismosa says:

      I agree.

    • Stars99 says:

      I think you’re right, Orson… Bravo was already committed to the spin-off… and had to figure out how to manage the viewers’ plummeting negative perception of Tamra. But you can’t bail out the Titanic by using one bucket…

      • Orson says:

        True about the one bucket. But it’s the beginning of the “She’s Not A Bitch, She’s A Victim Campaign”. This could end up being her new story for the rest of the season. So there will be more events like this and maybe they’re looking at the original final edits and taking out her being the bitch that she is. The per-episode full cast dinner/party/event scenes will be very tightly edited. With Tamra getting the victim edit, who’ll get the bitch edit? Alexis isn’t letting any of them except the new one near her. Maybe Vicki, but Vicki’s already had the bitch edit, didn’t like it, and has been around long enough to KNOW what not to do or say in front of the crew. The new one is too much of an airhead to be a bitch. That leaves Heather and Gretchen.

        Oh, what is it with these women with expensively remodeled kitchens with granite counter tops and stainless commercial grade appliances who only know how to make reservations or delivery and/carry out orders?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I would kill for one of those kitchens-I would be in there cooking up a damn storm!!!

          • Orson says:

            I’d pass on the granite myself. It’s often radioactive. Honest. I don’t have any issue with corian, though.

    • princesspindy says:

      The website says the Expo was at the end of October….

  23. boston02127 says:

    Happy Birthday WCW. Hope you had a great day!!!

  24. boston02127 says:

    Thx for the great blog Stars. Always funny 🙂

    • ladebra says:

      Hi Boston, are you finished with this semester? You might have said before, and I just missed it. Are you wedding planning? !

      • boston02127 says:

        Yes Ladebra!!!!! I was done last week. Thank God.
        I am going to start planning the wedding this summer. I still have a year but I’m so OCD. This summer we’re picking the venue, flowers and dresses. I think I may do my own invatations. I like doing stuff like that.

        • ladebra says:

          I think you are so smart by starting early, really. You should be able to savor, and enjoy all the memories you make that day. 💖 And not be stressed out wondering what didn’t get done. Enjoy your summer.

    • Stars99 says:

      Thanks, Boston – Hope you’re doing well!

  25. Cityside says:

    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to our WindyCityWondering
    Happy Birthday to you….la la la la la la la la la

    City

  26. boston02127 says:

    I’m watching Toddlers and Tiaras. The mothers tan their kids themselves or take them to a tanning salon. One mother on this eppy takes her two year old to an auto body shop that paints cars.

  27. cityside54 says:

    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to our MazelinIndy
    Happy Birthday to you my friend………………la la la la la la la la la

    City

  28. Cityside says:

    I don’t believe a word Tamra says.

    City

  29. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Starzy-I just read up thread what you wrote to Jeff (Mel) about the hugging-my mother loved hugs-givin’ them and gettin’ them….I was always the opposite-I don’t like people in “my space”…then I had kids and “my space” went out the friggen window!!! Now I hug everyone who is in my life-my family laughs at the complete mush I have become-crying at every show the kids have and never mind how I carry on about their achievements( I’m talking about all kids-not just my own)…a real crybaby I turned out to be-my point of telling this is-we are who we choose to be when we become PEOPLE-we can be just like the people who raised us or we can be the total opposite-we choose-we can make it better or worse. That’s on US-we have the power to be who we want to be. Tamra thinks its all about being successful in business and making money but she missed out on the part about being a good PERSON!!!

    • Stars99 says:

      Stands up and applauds the REAL Jill – See, now YOU should have made the speech, dagnabit! = )

    • djprincessc says:

      I am such a crybaby Jill! I can’t even imagine how I’m going to be when I have kids. Crying at every little thing they do. The total opposite of my mom, I’ve seen her cry 2xs in my entire life! lol.

      • Stars99 says:

        lol djprincess… I think i cried twice today just watching some danged commercials… lol

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Maggie just finished her first school project-which is also her last homework assignment in first grade-all of this made me cry…. And I’m not even PMS-ing!!!!

          • djprincessc says:

            For some reason Jill I get really emotional when I see babies, sometimes I gotta look away cus I’m like aaaaawwww sh*t I’m gonna lose it! lol

        • djprincessc says:

          Oh geez my pms is killer with that!!! The Ralph Lauren commercial I think it is, when they are running to eachother across a bridge. MY GOD!! lol and idk if you saw a few weeks ago I LOST it watching the ending of Monsters INC when Boo opened the closet door and Kitty wasn’t there. I lost it like my family had all been killed!!

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Monsters Inc….gets me every time!!
            One of my nephews is graduating from pre school next Friday and I’m already a mess-I know the kids are going to sing and I’m going to be in the back crying-my sisters just look at me a laugh!!! The teachers hand out little diplomas and the kids are so proud to be called up to the stage…great I’m crying now!!!!

          • chismosa says:

            Wow DJ you are bad! I am like you are to babies >>>> but to dogs

            I am that way with animals. They depend on us solely. Babies have humans that automatically take care of them. (99% of the time).
            People give 2 $hits about lesser species. That makes me upset. I cry more for the animals than kids and babies. And I ADORE kids and babies – well frankly they adore me for some reason …? ❓
            Lol

        • Powell says:

          Oh Stars don’t talk about crying watching commercials. Babies, dogs-esp puppies, moms & children, dads & children, grandparents & children, happy people, sad people I’m crying at commercials. Hands down I’ll cry at a commercial more than you & DJP. I’m a mess when it comes to commercials I described.

  30. lulu says:

    Hello all! A quick update more details to follow momma and baby r ok aiden was born yesterday he’s 8lbs 10 oz a big healthy boy :)l

  31. ladebra says:

    Oh boy … Buckle up lol

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I’m ready for this hot mess!!!

    • TexasTart says:

      UGH! I am buckling up for blog comments….am I over-reacting? IDK but I was wanting to jump in with youse guys months before I did last summer but the NJ talk 🙄 Despite my knowledge of the show – I never missed a NJ episode – it was too much. So I am not watching this season. Maybe MTH can work some magic in the recaps and make it all better! 😉

      • melthehound says:

        I can’t polish a turd but, let’s not forget that we watched 2 seasons back to back last year. I think people were just plain sick of the show.

      • chismosa says:

        TT I am not emotionally ready. But there’s nothing to watch these days
        Oh wait the Killing starts that night and mad men.

        Then I have the ratchet Lawn Guyland show after that I HAVE to watch because it’s in my town! Zero stars already all around.
        I’m bracing myself ………

        😥😬😬😬😬:cry: 😥

    • Powell says:

      No thks Teresa. I don’t believe I will.

  32. TexasTart says:

    The Voice – was anyone stunned that America didn’t vote to keep Sara Simmons?! She was my pick to win. I was stunned because her range and techniques were unmatchable. One song Adam picked for her recently was not a good match IMO. I don’t know what exactly was said but apparently her coach, Adam Levine had some disparaging comments after the show and he had to apologize for them.

    • ladebra says:

      The daytime talk shows were all commenting today. Apparently Shakira was very surprised America voted to save her team member; and two of Adam’s team were voted off. So you weren’t the only one surprised by the vote.

    • Powell says:

      Adam was upset & said “I hate America”. He was referring to how the fans voted & both of his singers are gone. I like Adam.

      • TexasTart says:

        Thanks Powell, he had the two front runners, IMO. Now I.see that closed caption picked it up during the eliminations and it said “I hate country.” IDK. It’s also said Sarah doing ‘Somebody I Used To Know” was a bad move. I’m for Sasha Allen now. Or should I just give up and pick one of Shelton’s country crew, ha ha!

  33. It's not reality says:

    So I am on my way home today and right by my community there are police and Feds with k-9’s and a helicopter looking for an escaped inmate from pompano beach. I do not know if they have caught him or not. The plaza where he was last spotted is less than 0.2 miles from my home and like 500 ft from where my family goes to school. cbs12.com/article?id=9458971

    • TexasTart says:

      That’s unsettling. At least he’s highly recognizable, especially with that neck tatoo! Hope they nab him soon.

    • lillybee says:

      Something like that happened in my neighborhood last week. A very stupid criminal who was on parole wearing an ankle bracelet to keep tabs on him did a home invasion and shot at the resident. Police located him driving in my area. It was very disturbing to see the SWAT tank driving past my house. Dumb criminal crashed his truck and was arrested.

      • melthehound says:

        Too bad he didn’t get shot or have his balls eaten off by one of the police dogs.

        • lillybee says:

          Pity, I think, but he was injured when he crashed the truck. The worst thing is that he is a convicted sex offender.

    • chismosa says:

      Oh my gosh INR I hope they find him soon!
      How weird I was just this evening talking to my parents about them moving down to Florida— they know like 100 people from Miami, through Boca, Ft Lauderdale, Boynton, Delray, and Pompano— yikes there’s a prison there ?

      Ok things to consider ……. Lol

      In all seriousness hope you are safe!

  34. cocfarm says:

    Here come the hawks, the mighty Blackhawks….

  35. TexasTart says:

    The RHONY cast will be identical to last year, but maybe not as much airtime for.Luann or Aviva.
    http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/real-housewives-salary-dispute-luann-559327

    • chismosa says:

      Hi Texas, this is the Hollywood Reporter so they know their $hit

      How FUNNY it is to me that Aviva was sourced to have signed on FIRST this whole freakin time and yet it’s not true !! She must have been leaking false stuff.
      No doubt Ramona warned production and Andy that Aviva better chillax or she’s going to go full on not film anywhere near her

      Love that Luann will hardly be on, she was hardly on last year as a full cast member !! Loll
      Gosh darnit we have to wait so long for this to come on. 😦
      😦
      😩

      • TexasTart says:

        After.all the rumors, it was nice THR did an article because I believe what they publish. Yeah, too long a wait until we get shows. 😦 But I am okay with the cast…I don’t believe anyone will let Aviva get away being as obnoxious as last season!

  36. TexasTart says:

    Yawn, it’s getting late and Lainey hasn’t come to claim her prize?!

    Oh, I bet her ears are burnin now, ha ha. G’nite all.

    • Rebecca says:

      Sign her up for Whines by Wives Tamra selection. Wait- that will probably taste too sour and skunky. How about a NJ gift set: bottle of Fabellini, bottle of blech water, that hidden cannoli kit from the back of the warehouse, a lapband, a Twitter session with Jackaloon, a hairless cat, a stripper pole, and the blu-ra version of On Display, On Display, On Display.

      (That song makes my ears bleed like the It’s a Small World ride.)

      • TexasTart says:

        LOL! We’ll avoid the song then. All good practical ideas, except the Twitter session….that would be a true lesson of restraint – or not! 😉

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