Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 5 and Chat Blog

Reflections on The Real Housewives of New Jersey by NMD

I remember the introduction to the Real Housewives of New Jersey: Teresa Giudice trying on swimsuits and talking about her little bubbies.   I don’t think I remember any other first episodes of any of the franchises.  This was the fourth version of the housewives franchise, the first to include related cast members, and by season three, the only franchise to have a full cast of married women.  After falling for the Real Housewives of New York and Atlanta, I was unimpressed by the Jersey ladies.  They were memorable, but not likable.

I suspect that Dina Manzo was the lynchpin of the group.  Dina had experience with Reality TV, starring in an episode of My Big Fat Fabulous Wedding.  I wonder if she reached out to her sister-in-law Jacqueline and her friend Teresa after being approached for the show.  If so, she probably regrets it.  Jacqueline dragged the camera crews over to her other sister-in-law Caroline’s place.  Caroline was about the most unlikely Real Housewife they had cast on the franchise since the original OC ladies.  She’s unapologeticly not botoxed, surgically enhanced, or stylish.  Heck, the woman can barely run a comb through her hair.  Shockingly, viewers took to her more than her coiffed younger sister Dina.

The fifth member of that original season was already in Dina and Caroline’s bad books by the time she was cast on the show.  Like Ramona and Jill, or Nene and Sheree, the show needed some conflict.  I don’t know if they learned about Danielle through hanging out in the local beauty salon, or if Jacqueline recommended her – but I don’t think anyone knew what they were getting when the brought in Danielle Staub.  Dina and Caroline clutched their pearls at Danielle’s sordid past,  but Teresa tried to be friendly with her until Danielle made the critical mistake of insulting Juicy Joe.  When Danielle called Teresa stupid in the finale, Teresa’s Gorga Trigger was switched, and she literally flipped the table and established one of the marquis moments in housewives history.  In many ways that was the beginning of the end of the Real Housewives franchises – as all ladies cast from that point on knew they needed to bring the drama to top Teresa’s ratings.

Producers of the show had an issue Season Two.  Danielle Staub was very much on the outs.  Only Jacqueline and Dina would interact with her – and only on a very limited basis.  Who can forget luncheon Danielle threw for her daughter with the empty chairs for Jacqueline and Dina. Danielle was forced to film with new friends Kim P, Kim D, and Danny.  The Kims turned out to be opportunists looking for screen time.  Danny was a dangerous felon who took his role far too seriously.  After a staged showdown, Dina left the show.  I imagine Dina asking the other ladies to stand with her and force the show to toss Danielle.  Or perhaps the rumors fed to Lynn (I suspect by Jaq) were true and Dina was dropped because the only interesting thing she did was talk to her hairless cat.  Whatever the case, Dina quit the show and stopped talking to Caroline, Chris and Jacqueline, and even Teresa for a period of time.  She made up with Teresa about the time Teresa landed a spot on Celebrity Apprentice, hoping that Teresa would choose her charity – Project Ladybug – for the show.  Teresa didn’t, but she did manage to get Dina to film with her and take her side in Teresa’s feud with Caroline.  One thing about the Laurita/Manzo ladies – they know how to hold grudges.  They still aren’t talking to this day.

For New Jersey what was going on behind the scenes was more interesting than the on-screen, faux reality the ladies tried to portray.  More than any other franchise they used social media and magazines to create public interest and sympathy.  Perhaps they really are from small towns, because people seemed to KNOW about what was hidden in their closets.

Teresa was the first housewife to be outed as a complete fraud. While she bragged about her riches on TV, she was facing bankruptcy.  Juicy Joe was revealed as a slum lord.  He tried to hide a DUI, and his friends covered for him.  He was caught driving with a false license.  As all of this was unveiled behind the scene, viewers began to feel a sense of disgust at the over the top parties and lavish lifestyle, knowing that it was coming at the expense of others.  Many viewers HATED Teresa during the second season and we all licked our lips with anticipation when we heard her sister-in-law would be joining the show and she’d no longer be able to cover up her criminal ways.

Who would have guessed that Melissa Gorga end up more hated than Teresa?  I wouldn’t have called that one.  Teresa had two things going for her – Melissa coming off as an annoying opportunist twit, and Teresa’s endless support and love for Juicy.  Something makes us root for the underdog, and somehow with the producers lining up her own family to bring her down didn’t set well with viewers.   Plus, by then we were full into the recession and bankruptcies were a dime a dozen among the housewives.  Sure there were still other charges against Juicy – charges he’s still facing – but Teresa managed to be seen as a separate person than her liability of a husband. That she hasn’t left him yet speaks volumes about her sense of loyalty and family.  He should have been kicked to the curb eons ago.

Melissa Gorga.  Melissa was like the kid in the back of the crowd with her hand raised saying pick me pick me.  How frustrating it must have been for her when the cast got down to four and still no one looked her way.  Clearly Joe Gorga will do anything for his wife – even calling his sister garbage and getting into a physical fight at his child’s christening to bring drama to the show and make sure his wife landed a spot as a housewife.  Who is Melissa Gorga is the million dollar question.  Is she a manipulative swinger who is addicted to coke, a housewife and mother with dreams of being a singer, or someone in between.   I suspect option three.

One thing about the New Jersey ladies – they live in an alternative universe.  Teresa was a virgin until she was married – a “good” girl.  Melissa was not a “good” girl.  Strike one.  And there is some sort of tension between her and Juicy.  Does he know something or (blech) did she have some sort of relationship with him?  He’s a man-whore, so anything is possible.  That would certainly explain the tension.  Melissa needed someone to film with when she joined the show so they also brought in Kathy Wakile.  Kathy also has the Gorga Trigger, but she hides it better than Teresa and Joey.  We didn’t see it until the last reunion.  Kathy talks quietly, but I no longer believe she’s a nice person.  If she was she wouldn’t put up with that pig of a husband of hers – who is truly vile pond scum.  Another piece of alternate reality is Kathy’s sister Rosie. Rosie “came out” to her niece and nephew last season.  Are we supposed to believe that those children who seem intelligent had no idea Rosie was a lesbian?  Alternate universe!

I have been up and down with Teresa.  I took a class once where they talked about different parts of your brain, and people damaged in childhood tend to run on instinct alone.  That’s what I think is going on with Teresa.  She has a strong maternal instinct.  No one can question her as a mother.  She has a strong survival instinct.  When cornered she comes out swinging, hence her vicious attacks at the reunion where she had no where to escape.  But she is not emotionally intelligent.  She has no empathy, and can not see things from someone else’s point o f view.  She seems able to walk away from friendships and not look back.  Her cast mates urge her to own her actions, and she stares at them dumbfounded.  There is something missing in her.

I think Caroline Manzo would have walked away from the show years ago if it wasn’t for her children.  The boys and her brother Chris are promoting BLK water and need the TV exposure.  Those poor Manzo boys.  A few years ago they did so well on Millionaire Matchmaker that Bravo toyed with giving them a spin off.  Instead they got some webisodes.  Yawn.   Worse off is poor Al Manzo.  He was grooming Christopher to take over the Brownstone – but what twenty year old wants to work 80 hour weeks and give up the screen time?  Of course it’s hard to feel too sorry for Al.  He’s the only househusband left that hasn’t been revealed to be a piece of crapola.  Let’s hope this isn’t his season.

I have no emotional investment in any of these ladies.  Teresa appears less awful in my eyes now that she’s been working hard to pay off her debts.  She’s also very pleasant on social media and in her blogs, but she’s damaged.  Melissa acts like a spoiled brat.  I would like to know more about Kathy and Rosie’s childhood, but Kathy’s current life is uninteresting to me.  Caroline needs to stop blaming Teresa for her problems with Dina.  Why Jacqueline is still allowed to be on the show is an enigma to me,  Surely her family can see how damaging it is to her. They really must need the money.  I hope she holds it together as the season airs.  I suspect her major issue with Teresa was that Teresa didn’t drop everything to listen to her work through her angst when she learned that her youngest son had autism.  It was a major life crisis for Jacqueline, and Teresa was so absorbed in her own life and her own family battles that she failed to understand how much Jacqueline needed her.  That opened a rift that is irreparable.  They both feel betrayed, and unlike many other cast members from the various franchises, these two ladies really were friends.  Jacqueline has the emotional maturity of a teenager, and thrives on gossip, feuds, and petty grievances.  Somehow she never grew up.

As season five unrolls, let’s all take a deep breath and remember that this is a show.   The cast are trying to show us some sort of sanitized, cleaned up version of their lives.  The producers are trying to get us emotionally invested in the show so that we come back every week.  The supporting characters are trying to grab a little screen time and notoriety.  None of the cast are evil, and none are perfect.  They are all flawed in their various ways and doing the best they can.  Unlike characters on scripted TV, they can not shed their personas and go home at night.  They have become the caricature that the producers have created.

At the end of the day none of their lives affect ours in any way unless we let them.  I intend to treat this season as a game – looking for the cracks in the curtain so that I can peak backstage and try to see what is really going on.  It’s a soft-scripted reality show and shame on us if we think otherwise.


And on another note – here’s a photo of someone who is already missing her twenty minutes of fame.  The source is the Pacific Coast News by the way of the Huffington Post.  What the heck is wrong with Adrienne Maloof?  Midlife crisis??

Adrienne Maloof having a wardrobe malfunction as she leaves Chateau Marmont with her boyfriend Sean Stewart in West Hollywood


About Veena (NMD)

Just a housewife ... who loves this place .... and loves to write ... You can reach me through this email: Lynn's Place is in tribute to Housewives blogger Lynn Hudson, who passed away in August of 2012.
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462 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 5 and Chat Blog

  1. AZGirl says:

    FIRST! What the hell is Adrienne wearing????

    • Catseye says:

      She looks SOOO cheap and tacky!!!!!!!!!!!! And with all that money too!!!:x

    • Boobah says:

      Omg – that pic of Adrienne! What a mess.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Second…and I second your question.

    • TexasTart says:

      OH, my eyes!!!!!!!! There should have been a warning! 😉

      • HuskerHuny says:

        How desperate can one person get? No class whatsoever. I’ve seen better dressed hookers – not in person, but on TV! Someday her boys will see these pictures and how proud they will be while their friends are making fun of them.

    • Powell says:

      Without a doubt this is the worst Adrienne has looked. I’m sure Paul is very happy he longer has to go places w/her. I hope whoever he is dating has class and better taste.

    • Rebecca says:

      Las Vegas tacky!!!!

  2. TexasTart says:

    :::applause::: for NMD
    Excellent RHONJ overview and commentary!

  3. BB says:

    Adrienne has lost her marbles.

    • Boobah says:

      ….and half of her shirt

    • chismosa says:

      It’s like a Demi Moore thing, why can’t some women just age gracefully and dress appropriately for their age?

      • not THAT Jill says:

        The outfit is stupid but her body is great-I could only hope to have that body at 51-but she doesn’t eat ever…eating is my fave pastime!!!

        • T-Rex says:

          Jnntj, you know I love food too and to me life is too short not to enjoy it, so I can’t be rail thin, but I don’t need to be, I have a wonderful husband, family and friends and they don’t care that I am not stick thin. She looks too thin, IMO and at 51 if you are not eating properly you are going to age very quickly, thin or not.

          • chismosa says:

            Yup and it becomes a thing of do you want your face to look thin or your body. Because the thinner you make your body the worse your face looks
            A little extra meat on the bones helps

  4. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Fantastic blog NMD and I wholeheartedly agree.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Hey RR-how you been???

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        Thanks for asking. I am good but as you know the end of the year with kids in school is a busy time with open houses and events. Not to mention youngest DD was pretty sick for a while with a high fever (103.5) so there was an ER and doctors visit.

        Is your youngest DD going into grade 1 next year?

        • not THAT Jill says:

          My youngest goes to 2nd grade next year-time is flying!! Maggie finishes on the 21st but will go to summer school for some extra reading help-Annabelle is in middle school and she finishes in a week!!

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            How time flies. I am hiring a special ed tutor for my kids during the summer for my girls jst to make sure they are ready to start the new year off right. 🙂

  5. Mene Seela says:

    Great write up NMD. I haven’t watched NJ in years. It is my least favorite version on RH.

    Jacqueline sounds like she has mental health issues – something called Reality TV Dysmorphia where she looks at her tv version of herself as edited by producers to be less fabulous than she really is. (Only she really isn’t fabulous in real life either.) She spends hours explaining to the world what “really” happened on twitter. Uhm okaaayy Jac.

    Thanks for the blog – I drop in here to catch up on the entertainment world and what’s new with the posters. I hope everyone is having a nice weekend. I’m back to work in the garden.

    Congrats to to the new mom.

  6. Powell says:

    Helloooooo! Good afternoon fambily. 😉

  7. cocfarm says:

    Wow. I laughed, snorted and choked looking at that picture! She looks like a kid drawing where the people have no bodies, just arms and legs coming out of a head. So NOT flattering! But thanks so much for wearing it Adrienne. It was a good laugh.

  8. cocfarm says:

    Don’t know if any of you watch storm chasers, but three were killed in Fridays storms in Oklahoma. He pictures on this link are unreal too. I don’t get how the centers of utility poles can be missing.
    RIP Tim samaras, Paul and Carl.

  9. AZGirl says:

    I was watching the last season reunion of NJ and I just can’t get over how much pain and hate between these gals. Caro was just a pill. Sitting with a smug/frown. I don’t know but watching NJ may kill my liver.

  10. boston02127 says:

    Adrienne doesn’t look like a whore.

    An idiot maybe.

    Or both.

    Yes a whordiot.

  11. lillybee says:

    Where is her pride?

    • cocfarm says:

      Not in that dress! Thats for sure!

      • ThingsRFine says:

        :snort: Good one lol! 🙂 She never did have any taste when it came to her clothing. Money can’t buy you class don’t you know.

  12. $25,000 says:

    Awesome blog NMD! I pretty much agree with everything you said! I’m not sure if I’m ready for this season, but I’ll be watching anyway, in the same way you know you shouldn’t look when you pass a really bad wreck on the highway, but you can’t keep yourself from looking.

  13. not THAT Jill says:

    I’m going to go ahead and say I CAN NOT WAIT TO WATCH NJ!! I must have some missing brain cells or something but I’m excited for it to start. These women are so removed from any person I know in my real life that I’m pulled into their craziness!!!
    The one thing I hope is that Bravo handles the Sandy scenes without adding any crap-Sandy was a big enough bitch on her own that she doesn’t need Bravo to make her more dramatic!!!

    • $25,000 says:

      Exactly! I don’t want to hear any of them to put their cast mates down over who is doing the most to help people who sustained damage. They need to show some respect for what happened and not use the natural disaster as a way to put others down.

    • Powell says:

      JNNTJ did your husband install the A/C?

      • not THAT Jill says:

        No Powell-he hasn’t been home long enough to do it-he was home today but after mowing the lawn and bringing Maggie to her school carnival-he had just enough time to eat something and then he went off to the firehouse…maybe tomorrow!!!

    • chismosa says:

      I’m with you Jill 😘😘

  14. Stars99 says:

    Adrienne = D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E…. by the way… it doesn’t seem like the powers that be in the NBA are going to let their team move to Seattle… lolololololololololololololololololololololololololol

      • Stars99 says:

        I hope you guys get a better franchise in Seattle, actually – because I think your population can really do wonders for a team! They could really be smart about it – and get an NHL hockey team AND a great basketball team…share the same arena or arena complex…

      • lillybee says:

        The team was sold to a new group that is keeping them in Sacramento. The Malhoofs no longer own the Kings.

    • melthehound says:

      She forgot to wash the super-tan bronzer from between her boobs. I’m no expert but when women put the makeup on there to darken and deepen the cleavage, the rest of the boobs aren’t supposed to be showing. It just looks stupid, desperate, and tacky. Oh, wait… This is Adrienne we’re talking about… never mind, carry on.

  15. plainviewsue says:

    NMD. If you could see through the computer screen, you would see me giving you a standing ovation for this blog!!!!!!

    You summed up RHONJ perfectly, showing a completely unbiased look at all the women who have ever been on this show.

    I watched the First Look last night, and as usual, Joe Gorga made me flinch. He texts his sister that she is dead to him; his wife says to her you will never see my children again and then he wonders why his sister hasn’t reached out to him?

    Jill. I agree with you. I am excited for this season, if only for the hope that there is redemption for Teresa, accountability for others & even if it’s fake (which I am sure it will be) a reunion of friendships and family.

    We shall see.

  16. melthehound says:

    Two Thumbs Up NMD… I hate to admit it but I’m looking forward to it. You’ve filled in a couple blanks for me as well since I didn’t watch S1 and half of S2. To me, Danielle was always just this bitch but it was as much for the people she surrounded herself with as her own behavior. Dina had ‘left’ the show when I started watching. In fact, it was her and Danielle’s get together ending in the scene of Dina driving away that was my first NJ show ever. I’ve seen the table flip 100s of times because Bravo just loves to replay that footage. Never could stand either of the Kims but Bravo must love KimD if she’s still there as a friend with her shit stirring Posh Fashion shows. We’ll see what crap she has in store for us this year. The most important part of your blog however, is at the end (as you’ll see in my recap)… This is a show… Let’s be civil with one another.

    • Rebecca says:

      Can we get a reprieve during NJ so we can curse on the boards? I don’t know if I can afford the swear jar this year.

      • $25,000 says:

        Are we not supposed to swear here? (not joking or snarking here) I’m a relatively new member. I’ve wondered what the rules were but I’ve never seen them.

        • not THAT Jill says:

          I think an occasional *bitch or *shit is acceptable when in full snark mode-mostly acronyms are used like STFU and so forth!!!

        • Orson says:

          Personally, I use the word “luann” in place of the word “shit”. As in, “So and so is full of luann!” or “I stepped in some luann the dog left on the lawn”.

  17. zoekayla says:

    NMD, you did an excellent job of describing the basic flaws of this franchise. Based on the vacuous, vicious ignorance of Teresa, the whole group dissolves into ridiculous plot lines that go nowhere and where true peace is impossible. The others all have their part in this train wreck, too, but T just sets a tone that cannot be overcome.
    Thanks, NMD, for your honest review of the franchise up to now.

  18. hildogatl says:

    Hi guys, after “lurking” again fo quite some time, I am back. John and I still have the wedding postponed (still way too hard after Mommy passing 10 days before our big day), we were blessed to have a little “gift, and/or $h!tty” consolation prize of a new home in a close neighborhood where we both grew up but never would have been able to afford. Miss you all so much, we are in the moving process and I will try to pop in every so often but promise to be back ft soon.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Hey hildogatl-nice to see you back!!!

    • TexasTart says:

      Hildog, good to know you’re getting along alright – good to hear from you!! Come back when you get settled in, you were a wonderful addition to the bloggers here and hope in the future you could it again. Take care of yourself and John. Good luck with the moving.

    • Stars99 says:

      Jumps up and down and waves at hildogatl! Please know that you are missed… and we look forward to when you can join in again! = )

    • princesspindy says:

      Hey!! ((( hildogatl))) Good to “see” you!!!

    • Powell says:

      HilDogAtl I was thinking about you yesterday. We where all so heart sick for you & you fiance’ & your family for losing your mother. We asked each other quite often if anyone heard from you. I’m happy you have a new home and that you still have your plan to get, married. Bless you & your finance’ and a BIG hug to you.

    • chismosa says:

      Hildogatl, hope you are doing as best as you can

      Thinking of you. Glad to hear from you

  19. hildogatl says:

    Oh, here is the irony of it all, we are FAR from wealthy but our home is like 4 miles from Wig’s old rented home with Kroy, that was her “dream home”

  20. hildogatl says:

    Thanks Jill! Have missed you guys.

  21. ladebra says:

    Totally fabulous blog NMD. Since NJ comes on early here, I’m prolly watching. I’m strangely excited and scared at the same time!

    Start new job tomorrow! Hope I remember how, lol.

    • TexasTart says:

      LADebra – good luck with your job! Hope you will still have time to check in! 🙂

    • Stars99 says:

      Good luck, ladebra! They’re lucky to have you… you’ll do GREAT!

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Congrats on the new job ladebra!!! Good luck!!!

      • ladebra says:

        Thanks Jill! It’s kind of like starting at a new school. New kid and all!

        • not THAT Jill says:

          Get your clothes ready tonight-this way you will be all set in the morning!! Must be exciting to start something new!!!

          • ladebra says:

            I’ve been in my closet trying on stuff for the last hour. I think I got it; and I’ve got the purse packed .. If I forget something, there is always the next day 🙂

            • LavaLady says:

              good luck!

              • ladebra says:

                Thank you! I hope I don’t stay up all night and then over sleep (no no no, no jinx)

            • princesspindy says:

              I’m very excited for you!!

              • ladebra says:

                Thank you PP! Excited and scared, and I’ve had the hiccups twice today. I just need to simma down. An hour of NJ, lol, maybe that will settle me down. It’s not the first job, but I sure am hoping it’s the last. 😉

                • princesspindy says:

                  I hope so too! You’ll be great, you’ll be swell!!

                • chismosa says:

                  Wait do hiccups come when one is nervous ? I never knew that

                  Good luck again, you’ll do great!

                  • ladebra says:

                    Thank you Chismosa !! I don’t know about the hiccups but I never get them, hardly ever. So maybe I am projecting! And now I must start getting ready or I’m going to rush. Have a fabulous day 💕

    • chismosa says:

      Good luck LADeb on the new job. Congrats!

  22. JustDee says:

    GREAT Blog and trip down memory lane NMD!

    I can’t stand any of these women (or their men) anymore but I’ll be watching, lol.

  23. Powell says:

    I just want you all to know that I’ve been laughing my patootie off at how excited you are to watch the Jersey girls tonight. I’m excited for you all. I’m looking forward to all of the 411 from everyone.

  24. LavaLady says:

    so silly how i’m looking forward to jersey – guess it’s in my blood

  25. princesspindy says:

    Excellent job NMD!!!!

    I am going to watch tonight…..but I can’t promise that I will continue to be nice, especially with the whole Autism thing…..I will be watching Jaq and her fambilily very closely…..I’m not sure if this being nice is good for my health, lol!!

  26. not THAT Jill says:

    GO SCRATCH Caroline…’s time!!!!!

  27. LavaLady says:

    I’m crying over the Sandy stuff. so sad

  28. Kat From Ohio says:

    i have a big ass glass of wine and i’m ready to gooooooooo

  29. LavaLady says:

    Wow, Melissa and Joe’s house really got hit

  30. Kat From Ohio says:

    melissa’s new tagline is sooo bitchy

  31. boston02127 says:

    Did your brother call you?
    Did he call your mother?
    Did your brother call your cell?
    Did Joe and Teresa call each other?
    Did Teresa call Melissa?
    Did Joe call Joe?
    Did Shanna bang her head on the wall …………………….YES

  32. not THAT Jill says:

    These new tag lines are soooooooo stupid!!! Melissa totally not original-she just stole happy wife happy life and changed a word…what a dummy!!!

  33. Kat From Ohio says:

    ahhh glad to see my favorite cast member: milania

  34. not THAT Jill says:

    Ewwwww Jac is gross

  35. boston02127 says:

    Stay tuned~~~~

    We get to hear Jacqueline talk about bleaching her assO. Classy girl!

  36. boston02127 says:

    If Jac’s face gets any tighter it’s gonna snap.

  37. $25,000 says:

    The footage of them going through their shore houses is footage I’ve seen before. I think they must have shown it as a special shortly after the storm.

  38. not THAT Jill says:

    Jersey has no shame using their kids-they are gross sad disgusting people-every last one of them!!!

    • JustDee says:

      And it’s so fake! All these “talks” are staged to get [insert couples name here] point of view out there.

  39. melthehound says:


  40. boston02127 says:

    Are they freakin serious? This is where we are after last season? I don’t know if I can watch this all season.

  41. not THAT Jill says:

    Did he just say it was inedible????

  42. not THAT Jill says:

    I can really do without Rosie…and Kathy

  43. Kat From Ohio says:

    milania is a sweet girl.

    • vilzvet says:

      Ah Milania, the holy terror flipping her little sister over right next to the marble floor, ugh, the scenes in that house never change.

  44. cusi77 says:

    How sad was that? I grew up in a house full of sisters (4 older, one younger) But my cousins around was the best! Those cousins miss each other and Gia has already an opinion…

    • cusi77 says:

      Oooops… no WAS, but WERE around…

    • melthehound says:

      Sad indeed

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Gia is old enough to get it-she sees and hears everything

      • cusi77 says:

        She is all gown up! With her Fendi purse and make up! I was more of a girl than Gia even at 15!!!! She is in Charge! Bad idea! (IMHO)

    • chismosa says:

      Cusi Gia’s opinion is her mom’s doing. Nothing more.

      She’s not an adult to form an educated opinion like that

      Ratchet Tre ruined their family and that’s that

      Can’t wait for Tre to get her karma when the kids are older!

  45. boston02127 says:

    Jac’s tweet~~~~This was all filmed before my tummy tuck with @DrBrentMD :0) Maybe you’ll see that later in the season.

  46. melthehound says:

    Bullshit Momz

  47. not THAT Jill says:

    Joe Gorga soooooo wants top billing on this show

    • chismosa says:

      I feel like he misses having that older sister vibe, which he lost with Tre.

      As we see on Tre’s phone, the last text from Melissa looked like Mel was asking to get together. Tre was saying Joe was busy with work and “everything” — maybe the lawsuit?????!!!

      That dinner looks SO STAGED

      Joe thought he was out with his mistress by mistake

  48. boston02127 says:

    “I’m not chasing my sons” They bend down themselves to let me wipe their butts.

  49. melthehound says:

    Did momz get uglier?

  50. $25,000 says:

    It was bad for Teresa and Kathy to talk badly about the others parent. That’s always hitting below the belt. It is far worse for someone to put down another’s parent who is no longer living. That’s pretty much unforgivable. I doubt Teresa is intelligent or sensitive enough to recognize that but I really hope she was able to buy a clue after she heard Rosie screaming like a banshee in response during the season 4 reunion.

    • chismosa says:

      Nah she wouldn’t get it

      And I agree with you. Especially since it seems that Teresa’s father was the one who did some shady stuff to his sister’s husband.

      Shame that woman was not even raised by her own parents and then her brother takes advantage of her What a tragic storyline Kathy’s mom has been.

  51. boston02127 says:

    Melissa is going to try and make T look like a horrible mother. Scared to leave her kids with her.

  52. lillybee says:

    Caro needs to brush her hair.

  53. not THAT Jill says:

    Dust in the air….real rocket scientist those 2!!!

  54. boston02127 says:


  55. not THAT Jill says:

    Caroline needs to butt in b/c no one cares about her chasing her sons around Jersey!!!

    • chismosa says:

      Jill it’s quite the conundrum she’s in because its so freaking Waterford crystal clear that the Don is in the show ONLY for her kids. And not even really Lauren out of love, more to let go of Lauren the excess baggage.

      So what the hell can she do?
      She should have left the show 2 seasons ago

  56. boston02127 says:

    Gia is carrying a LV pocketbook.

  57. Kat From Ohio says:

    gia is the smartest person on this damn show

  58. VV says:

    The RHONJ Circus is back! … with all the old characters:
    Bitter Clown, Apathetic Al, Prince Albert of Brownstone, Christofool, Lapband-Lauren, JacDaniels, St Chris of Lurkita, Autotune, Joey-Marco the Gnome, Filthy Fly, Froggy, Juicy, Teresa, and the Star of the show—–>MILANIA!!! “Gimme Pizza you old troll”
    *Special appearances by her sisters Gia, Gabriella and Audriana.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Hey VV-nice to see you!!

    • princesspindy says:

      HI VV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • VV says:

        HI PP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • princesspindy says:

          Missed you, we were just talking about you the other day wondering where you be!!

          • VV says:

            YOU WERE? All good I hope. After, my FIL passed and me and hubby having more free time. I took a sabbatical from all things Bravo. I really had not watched, read, no Twitter, no nothing Bravo. I stopped watching OC two seasons ago so, it was easy. However, it’s RHONJ time. I’m gonna see how it progresses. If its more of the same (everybody against Teresa) I might tune out……….maybe 😉

            • princesspindy says:

              I didn’t really watch much NJ last season but I’m kinda excited, I’ve been watching alot of old shows online…I don’t have HBO so I have been watching a lot of dose dem dere….quality TV, what a concept!!

    • JustDee says:


    • Powell says:

      This is fantastic. I don’t know how you all come up with them.

    • chismosa says:

      Hey VV I’ve missed you- want to talk Bethenny!!

      Hope you are well

      • VV says:

        I’m playing catch up. Stayed away from everything Bravo. I’ll have to Google to see what’s going on….
        It’s RHONJ time and you and au don’t see eye to eye on this one 😉

        • chismosa says:

          You and I?
          Sorry I think you meant “I” and I saw a typo. I figured no one here will see Teresa-ratchet the way I do

          It’s ok I know I’m in the minority. I’ll disappear for a couple of days likely
          Maybe find some hate-Guidice site to vent

          Glad you are back!!!

    • mrspeabody says:

      you called that right, lol,lol,lol……I’m really laughing alot.

  59. not THAT Jill says:

    Oh boy-we got a real storm rolling in!!! Thunder and lightning…I hate a storm when Kevin isn’t home!! Better get prepared with some flashlights and stuff-just in case!!!

  60. cusi77 says:

    What is wrong to let Antonia go to play with all her cousins and see her grandparents for the same token!

  61. boston02127 says:

    Caroline………..go have lunch with your husband.

  62. VV says:

    Please please please Bitter Clown NOBODY wants your advise. I repeat NOBODY.

    • LavaLady says:

      Caroline you’re getting pulled back in because you choose to be on a freaking show with these people

  63. VV says:

    Caroline is the sister HE never had. I’m sorry excise me. Did he really say that.?

  64. not THAT Jill says:

    This guy told his sister she is dead to him but he is waiting for her to reach out to him…he is so full of himself. If someone told me I was dead to them it would be a cold day in hell before I ever called them!!!!!

  65. LavaLady says:

    I’m not feeling Melissa right now.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Me either-she seems like she is hoping they divide stays so she can have a storyline-I’m over the family feud-they at wall nuts!!

    • boston02127 says:

      LavaLady…….. It’s ok if you’re not feeling Melissa. Everyone else in NJ has.

      • Cruickal says:

        Lol Boston! If I could “like” your comment it wouldn’t be enough, I “love” it! 🙂

    • chismosa says:

      I thought no one here did?

  66. Stars99 says:

    OMG OMG OMG… It just now dawned on me that I signed up to recap “The Manifesto”… what the HECK was I thinking? Whoa… silly me…

  67. boston02127 says:

    Is this boarderline child abuse? Did they gather all the kids and tell them to beg so they could play together? Why are the kids so much of a factor in the adult crap?

  68. LavaLady says:

    Caroline just butt out, myob

  69. cusi77 says:

    WindyCityWondering_ Thinking of you, my love!!!!!! Come play with us!!!!!!

  70. Powell says:

    Thks you all. I didn’t watch a millisecond but you all made me feel like I did. Glad to see our other friends come out and play. 🙂

  71. JustDee says:

    Are we sure this is a new season and not just a recut of the last two?

    • cusi77 says:

      Lol! Dee! ITA!

    • melthehound says:

      Good question… I’ll tell ya though, I just can’t with this long island show.

    • VV says:

      I hope not. However, I missed half of the show. Preview for the season, well show more of the same Teresa crying, Melissa playing victim, Juicy and Tarzangel fighting… It seems that Bravo producers have a one mind track when it comes to RHONJ.

  72. not THAT Jill says:

    Chimosa….the Long Island girls are on….come and watch with me!!!!

  73. princesspindy says:

    Well you all made that entertaining….I am going to watch in 3 hours…

    • princesspindy says:

      4 hours, what do I know

      • not THAT Jill says:

        One time I would like to follow the “chat” and then watch the show later-is it funny to read the comments when you are not watching or is it annoying?? or both?? At least you know which parts to look for right?

        • princesspindy says:

          It’s funny and it helps me watch out for stuff…I am usually multi-tasking while watching, a fancy way to say on my laptop, so I miss some stuff or I would never look at it “that way” so it’s like having a “Housewives for Dummies” guide, lol!

        • chismosa says:

          I watch later, never live. So I read comments later, similar to you west coasters

  74. VV says:

    The Manifest is up!!! The Manifesto is up!!!

  75. VV says:

    Froggy’s, Bitter Clown, and Teresa’s Blog are up as well.

  76. lillybee says:

    I wish that Jac would leave her little boy off camera. This will hurt down the road.

    • boston02127 says:

      Me too. Esp when he’s crying.

    • missusmc says:

      I’m so glad you said this! I have been feeling this way for some time, but I thought maybe I was just sensitive since my boys have autism, too. Jac’s blog is up, too, and while she claims to not be exploiting her son, 4 full pages are devoted to her Jenny McCarthy recovery speak and her “expertise” in all things autism. Makes me think she really used autism as a reason to stay on the show, which is heartbreaking. I really hope people are smart enough to not look at Jacqueline as inspiration/information for dealing with autism. If she really was so devoted to her child, she would not have signed on for season 5 (and don’t be fooled- New Jersey is one of the best states to live in as far as Autism Insurance Mandates goes, so there is a very, very high likelihood Nicholas isn’t receiving any of that RHONJ money for his treatment).

      • boston02127 says:

        Also, did you catch the part when Chirs said “during Sandy, when there was no school and you spent so much time with him, he’s doing so much better” Why isn’t she spending more time with him, school or no school? I found that odd.

        The whole situation with them pisses me off. He’s still a baby.

        • not THAT Jill says:

          I don’t like how they are doing this on TV-I don’t think she should be using Bravo and the HWs as a platform for such a serious issue-there has to be a more respectable venue in which she could spread awareness-but using a show where you find it necessary to talk about bleaching your as*hole is not the place to showcase your child’s issue.

          • missusmc says:

            If it were a serious channel and filmed as a documentary instead of trash tv, I wouldn’t be nearly as opposed. Agree with you totally!

        • missusmc says:

          That part, I actually understand. My guys attend “school,” which is ABA therapy, 40 hours a week. So, if his school was closed, she would be spending more time with him, as he would be home during that time for a change. It’s been our experience that therapies “program” these kids to do things in a situational way; so, basically, these kids can do things at school, but it’s a bit of a hurdle to get them to do the same thing at home or in another setting (I’m not sure if this makes sense.) So, basically, Jac was able to connect with Nicholas at home during the time of day he normally would be in school, and once he made that connection at home, they were able to see some of the things he is able to do at school. This is why many intensive interventions are controversial to autistic adults; because early intervention didn’t exist back when they were growing up, they understand that some of these symptoms naturally go away with maturity and growth, so they advocate to let kids be kids and meet the kids where they are, rather than “training” them to be like everyone else.

          That was long-winded- sorry 🙂 I will say that we currently do have our kiddos in intensive therapy, and the time they are not is spent with me 100% of the time. I can’t imagine leaving my kids any more than I need to. No reality show would take that time away! And I agree that Nicholas is so young, and will do so many great things as he gets older, so why show him struggling now? I know autism is certainly not all sunshine and rainbows, but when you allow a camera crew to film the good and the bad, you have no control over what side will be shown, and since it’s Bravo, obviously the bad will be shown. It’s not right at all.

          • boston02127 says:

            missusmc—I fully understand that. It just sounded odd. As if Jacqueline doesn’t spend time with him. Or any of her kids for that matter.

            • Rebecca says:

              She doesn’t!!!!!!!! Check her tweets! She is always off traveling and leaving her little boys behind!

            • missusmc says:

              In that moment, I felt bad for her. For like a split second. Because we all feel like our kids are taken away from us too long with therapies. But then I see how she spends the time she could have with Nicholas, with ridiculous twitter wars and this show, and then I don’t feel bad for her. I just feel bad for her kids.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        missusmc. I know how you feel. On Jax twitter profile she actually calls herself an ‘autism advocate’…which IMO she is not. While she is qualified to speak about her child, she is way too new claim to speak for all children and their families.

  77. boston02127 says:

    Best things about tonights NJ show:

    Melissa didn’t shove singing down our throats.
    No poison talk.
    No dry humping.
    No Rosie making out in a jacuzzi.
    No CaCaFace.
    No Manzo (baby huey) kids.
    No drunks.
    I had nonpareils candy.
    It’s over.

  78. Maryla says:

    These Princesses are a vacuous waste of air and space. She’s 29 and still mooching off mom and dad? Contribute something to society. Get a job, do charitable work, help someone, do something! They are actually making Teresa and Melissa look useful. Maybe that is a BRAVO strategy—elevating the NJ HWs by showing us the uselessness of others. Eeesshh.

    • melthehound says:

      I thought she said 27 but, what’s two years in the life of an old maid? I turned it off, rewound and watched NJ a second time.

  79. NJBev says:

    Hi Everyone.
    I swore I would just “lurk” tonight, but It’s been weeks
    since I’ve had a chance to actually watch and post live,
    so I just couldn’t help myself!!!!!
    I miss you all….. I have been insanely busy, in good ways
    and not so good ways…..

  80. boston02127 says:

    Did anyone else thing that Caroline’s reason for down sizing was a lame excuse for something to come?

    • ramonacoaster says:

      Hmmmm, maybe the Brownstone isn’t doing that well. Maybe too much money going into the blackhole that is BLK water.

  81. boston02127 says:

    Get ready for some trolls. JacJac does not like us. We always get trolls during NJ.
    Bring it on ratchet.

  82. NJBev says:

    I hate this Long Island show………..

    (I’m sorry Jill NNTJ)

    • not THAT Jill says:

      I kind of love/hate it….I need to watch it with my sister-we will laugh so hard!! Watching it alone is not fun for me b/c there are too many things to make fun of and no one to share my sense of humor!! These girls are dreadful aren’t they??? And by dreadful I mean selfish lazy spoiled brats!!!

    • ramonacoaster says:

      Not liking it so far either and I’m from Long Island (wants to hide in shame). I hope people don’t think all Long Islanders are like this. Jeff sounds and looks like my gay friend. I hope they don’t hang out at the same places I do.

      • not THAT Jill says:

        My husband is from Long Island but he is 45 and I don’t think he ever acted like any of these people….

        • not THAT Jill says:

          The reason I said how old he was is b/c I don’t think he acted like that when he was in his 20s..I hope he didn’t!!!

        • boston02127 says:

          I can’t believe their ages and the way they act. They should float over to Jersey and hook up with the Man-zero brothers.

    • chismosa says:

      NJBev- I watched it last night. I had to text every single one of my friends with a dire warning, as we all live there.

      It was ratchet! Lol

      These girls are unfortunate looking, minus the brunettes

  83. boston02127 says:

    Such a big deal about buying a bathing suit on the show LI. I can honestly say that I’ve never tried on a bathing suit, I just buy one. It takes me about 7 minutes.

    When the mom and daughter were modeling bathing suits for the daughters b/f and the b/f said, “wow you’re gonna poke a hole in my pocket”. My mother was a very calm and peaceful person but I would have had to hold her back if a guy said that to me in public. He would of be on her sh*t list FOREVER.

  84. BB says:

    TENNESSEE WON! TENNESSEE WON! (Sorry Texas Tart). They are going to play in the championship series (probably against OK – Yikes). YIPPEE!

  85. Orson says:

    Since I’m still watching, sort of, the Princesses Long Island, I’ll talk about them first. They should rename it “A shanda fur die goyim.” For those who aren’t familiar with Yiddish, this is an expression that literally means ‘a shame before the nations’… but which is used colloquially to describe any embarrassing or compromising behavior performed by a Jew where a non-Jew can observe it. I hope this show joins Gallery Girls, StartUps (?), LOLWork, and other one season flops.

    With NJ, I remind myself it’s been 2 years since they actually filmed episodes together. Remember, seasons 3&4 were filmed back to back, with the reunion for 3 taped right after the last episode of season 4 was taped. The season 4 reunion was taped a year after that. Okay, so maybe it’s a year and a half. since they taped an episode. Talk is cheap, especially on this franchise but Jaq said she had enough of the Gorga / Giudice. She’d be much better off if she can stay out of it. Eh, whatever. Anything we saw tonight was filmed at least 3 months ago. I’m not going to let any of it bother me.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Orson all I can say about Princesses of LI is ….OY VEY!

      • ramonacoaster says:

        Looks like the Princesses of LI are future Jill Zarins if they marry really well. .

        • not THAT Jill says:

          OMG Ramonacoater EXACTLY!!!!!

        • chismosa says:

          They all SOUND LIKE HER

          I’m from there, every store they went to is up my block. The restaurant the gay-ish guy took that ugly girl to is across the street from me

          I LOVE that the restaurant didnt allow the name to be shown


          • not THAT Jill says:

            chimosa-YOU MUST BE BURSTING WITH PRIDE!!!! I can’t even imagine the horror!! I’m sure there are plenty of people in your area that are not going to be happy about this show!!!

            • chismosa says:

              I’m reading any local presses to see what the word is

              Im just hoping this is a simple 6 episode run that NEVER returns, with no reunion and no word to be heard from them again.

              The munchkin annoyed me the most. And she has no neck and can’t hold her head up. The scoliosis pose is getting tired on a lot of these people on reality shows.

              I hope the city of Freeport go after her lol
              She acted like it was Compton or the south Bronx


  86. VV says:


    What was the name of the construction company working on Teresa’s Jersey Shore home? Joe was wearing a windbreaker or Tshirt with the name on it. The other workers were wearing it too. Is this Joe’s new construction company or was he advertising it?

    • melthehound says:

      I didn’t catch the name but it’s clearly a plug for whatever company it is. Don’t know if it’s Joe’s or not.

      • VV says:

        Thanks Jeff that’s what I thought too (plug). The fact he was working as well got me thinking it could be his.

    • Rebecca says:

      Modern Era Building & Construction

    • ladebra says:

      I looked for you, and it’s a miracle but I think I remember! Modern Era.

  87. not THAT Jill says:

    Watching NJ again (I’m waiting to watch WWHL-I’m not really a sadist) and I’m totally creeped out by the meeting between Joe Gorga and Caroline-he said his relationship with Teresa is like a boyfriend/girlfriend thing-so weird. And the creepier thing is that Caroline is looking at him like a forlorn lover….it’s the oddest scene!!!

    • boston02127 says:

      I just threw up over that forlorn lover thing.

    • VV says:

      Caroline is no dummy. She picked the right idiot (Joey) to play her role as the wise woman giving advise …. This is all an effort to sell her book…

      • not THAT Jill says:

        She was acting so “wise” she was acting…forlorn!!! I think she loves him in a not so motherly way…gross I know!!!

        • not THAT Jill says:

          She wasn’t acting “wise” I meant

          • cusi77 says:

            Caroline should follow her own advices and make piece with her siblings! You are hurting your parents, Caroline!!!

          • VV says:

            I didn’t get that vibe…hmmm…I’ve been gone for too long. I’m losing my reality tv radar… I thought she wanted to come across as the peacemaker, the wise one… She’s big time toned down from last S4.

            She’s creepy, he’s creepy. They are perfect together in a creepy way.

        • boston02127 says:

          LOL, I know. She’s acting cute 4 him. EWWWWWW to both of them.

  88. Orson says:

    Oh, I’m watching some scenes filmed in T’s bedroom with her girls. The lighting or something is terribly wrong there as Gia and Miliana look like they need their mustaches bleached or waxed. Oversaturated colour much?

    • chismosa says:

      They may have that issue that they have to go get waxed or something pretty young. I mean if they inherit any hair issues like their mom (though I thought women get their hair from their dads, just like males and baldness comes from mom’d side)

      Not Farrah Abraham- baby young but younger than their friends

      I think I got my upper lip waxed when I was 14….. Eek

    • NJBev says:

      I noticed that on the Long Island show…..

    • boston02127 says:

      I thought the same thing!

  89. chismosa says:

    Mad men is increasingly creepier and creepier …. Loving it.

  90. cusi77 says:

    Oh, Oh! Teresa has gained weight… or it just my imagination?

  91. VV says:

    OMG! Teresa just plugged Bitter Clown’s book (not directly) but by saying. She gives good advise. BARF!

    • chismosa says:

      Don’t worry it’s not her thinking that/ her handlers told her to.

      Helps everyone’s image to be all “forgive-y”


    • NJBev says:

      hehe, you are right— which makes me think this
      crap is staged much more than we could even believe…..

  92. cusi77 says:

    Milania!!!!! Kick Andy’s tukus!!!!

  93. NJBev says:

    Did Teresa give him that pony?

  94. boston02127 says:

    Jill (nntj) I keep laughing over Martha Stewart & the ice cube.

  95. not THAT Jill says:

    Goodnight all….
    ladebra-best of luck tomorrow-I hope you have a great first day!!!!

  96. NJBev says:

    Watching Fashion Queens

    efffing ridiculous, No one over a size 8 should wear this??
    I’m sorry. i cannot even respond to this. Anything I say would
    sound like bigotry. SMH i feel ashamed for what I’m thinking……….

  97. Rebecca says:

    Just finished Game of Thrones – holy crap They showed the Red Wedding.

    • ladebra says:

      I’ve been waiting for that! How could they not, really? Thanks for the warning though. I won’t watch during dinner.

  98. Rebecca says:

    RHONJ now.

    Gorgas checking out their shore house. Guidices checking out their shore house. The Wakiles are driving around, interfering with the rescue effort. WTF?

  99. Rebecca says:

    Season three of Teresa being blamed for all the other cast members’ problems. YET, we’re all still waiting to find out what she DID.

    The scab scriptwriters need to be fired.

  100. Rebecca says:

    Rosie looks and sounds like an SNL character in drag. Why the hell are these people on my tv?

    Oh wait – this is a recording – I can fast forward!

    • melthehound says:

      Oh wait – this is a recording – I can fast forward!

      Isn’t that a wonderful invention?

  101. boston02127 says:

    Lauren always seems so sad.

  102. Rebecca says:

    Caroline may love Joey Marco, but Lauren hates both of them.

  103. Rebecca says:

    We’re all just dust in the air!

  104. Rebecca says:

    If they changed this show to the Real Guidice Girls of New Jersey, ratings would be through the roof. (Run to another networkTeresa)

  105. Rebecca says:


    There it is. Caroline is in love with Joey because he reminds her of her son. She is soooo sick.

    • boston02127 says:

      Now I have to go to bed with that on my mind. Caro & Joey having sex. It will be a night of nightmares.

  106. boston02127 says:

    I would like these shows so much better if everyone had to wear a shock collar and each time they lied the collar would shock them and they’d do a mini seizure dance. That would make me happy.

  107. mrspeabody says:

    Just watched the NJ girls and how much time has gone by between last season and this season? are you sure this wasn’t filmed the next week. These people haven’t moved on in a year and a half? That is unbelievable. This whole episode was so scripted. Let’s see, Tre really is the only one who seemed to have moved on to me, Joe seemed happier, Melissa lightened her hair and JOey seems dumber (he texted his sister she was dead to him and he wonders why she hasn’t reached out to him, since when do dead people talk to you?), I really don’t care what Jacq doesnt want to bleach, Caroline still thinks she knows it all and what is with Kathy always having conversations telling Rosie how to pick up women, do they not have anything else to talk about? Interesting both her and Rosie tried to explaine their reunion behavior, as far as I’m concerned they showed their real selves at the reunion.

    • melthehound says:


    • kit9 says:

      Teresa said he texted that, doesn’t mean he did. She is a pathological liar. But, in the crazy event that she’s telling the truth, I’m assuming he wrote that right after the reunion where Teresa was horrible and he was fresh with anger. A whole year passed and he’d expect her to call and apologize by then. And, those scenes with Juicy all happy were as fake as hell. Pretty much all the scenes(save the ones with Mel)with Teresa were phony and scripted. The ones with Milania? I was looking for the cue cards.

      • melthehound says:

        Oh please. They were ALL fake, INCLUDING the ones with Melissa.

      • chismosa says:

        I COMPLETELY agree Kit

        The restaurant scene where Tre and Joe Gross were at an intimate dinner? They looked SO uncomfortable and fake. Joe looked like he probably needed 5 shots of limoncello before shooting that scene
        In all these seasons I don’t remember them ever being alone at dinner together.
        With grandma and grandpa watching the girls of course……

  108. Rebecca says:

    Poll time – who would rather take advice from Gia Guidice that Caroline Manzo?


  109. kit9 says:

    I’m finally watching and it was just 10 minutes in before the disgusting POS Teresa said something despicable. Hey, ya’ll, heads up, the hurricane that completely devastated Jersey and so many families who lost everything was ‘God working in mysterious ways’ and an ‘opportunity’ for her POS husband to work.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Why is it so despicable? I get how profiteering is repugnant to most people but she (and Joe) didn’t create the hurricane, The fact is, the many parts of NJ and NY do need to be rebuild and the money to do that does add to the economy. IMO that would be like resenting a doctor because people get sick…..

      • Cruickal says:

        I agree with you RR! Especially pointing out the dr. And People getting sick thing as a comparison

        I also happen to think its a great thing that Joe can work too since that may help his ego. I know that I’m biased because I’m a fan of Teresa, but Her brother also said something very similar about being able to work and I don’t think that either joe working is a bad thing. Sandy was devastating, not arguing that at all, but with all disasters history has shown there is economic growth. I don’t think pointing that out is dispicable, it’s just teresa saying something without really thinking about it first and I think everyone is guilty of that.

        The REAL dispicable thing is Jac profiting off of her sons condition. I can’t even stand to watch her scenes anymore and I most certainly cannot when they feature her son. I thought it was the worst when she tried to get viewers to feel bad for her when she was “going through it” (a.k.a. Raising a teenager girl) with Ashley and now she wants to profit off of her autistic son?! Oh and on the same token pilfering from businesses to fund her lavish lifestyle and tummy tucks?! Sorry I don’t feel sorry for you Jac and think your a horrible human being….

        I have a child who is disabled, we have no idea what his diagnosis is, he is 5, he can’t walk without his walker, he can’t speak, we have been through numerous specialists, studies and whatever and we will probably never have a diagnosis as we have been told. He hates to be the center of attention, we do not have birthday parties for him anymore because we have learned that about him…. When YOUR CHILD has a disability that is practically defined by not doing well in social situations or around large groups of people why on earth would you invite a camera crew into your home and out his struggles on national television for him to see later in life. What a fantastic mother she is to bring “awareness” to the cause, to quote a Beverly Hills (or maybe NY, its been so long) housewife (and by that I mean all of them) this is not the time OR the place for that!

        Sorry, this is so long 😦

        • melthehound says:


        • rabblerouser2010R says:


          It seems like many of us moms here with special needs kiddo’s feel the same way about Jac ‘exploiting’ Nic’s dx. While she has the right to speak about her experiences as a parent dealing with the diagnosis, I feel that it is completely unfair to subject an innocent child, especially with sensory issues to the chaos of filming.

          I am sorry to hear that despite all your efforts, you still do not have a dx for your son. Does he sign or use a picture board to communicate?

          • Cruickal says:

            I agree it is so unfair for him! 😦 it makes me feel really sad when a mother will not put her child needs first.

            I wish that we did have a dx but after trying so many times and just being told by doctors “we don’t know” that maybe it s ok. We don’t need to know what, as long as we know who that should be enough. Thankfully, he is the happiest little boy 95% of the time 🙂 he doesn’t use a picture board, we have tried that along with his school and being reinforced everywhere but he will not point to things or seem interested in it. When he was two he would sign the word “more” if he wanted more of something but he hasn’t learned any new words since then.

      • melthehound says:

        Same here Rabblerouser. Fact of the matter is that bad storms always translate to rebuilding paydays. Somebody has to do it and I don’t see anything wrong with noting that. It doesn’t have jack shit to with being ‘despicable’.

    • chismosa says:

      High 10000

      So ratchet

      • melthehound says:

        You aren’t the first one I’ve seen this rachet term from and in fact, this isn’t the first place I’ve seen it used. Yet, you say you coined it. What exactly does it mean?

        • djprincessc says:

          Rachet is a term that they use in hip hop. It means a girl/woman is ghetto or she’s a whore basically. Its not a compliment, but people from the hood use the word and now the whole world has caught on.

          This is the song that made it famous really. This is the clean version, didn’t want to scare you. haha.

        • chismosa says:

          Oh Mel I made a mistake when I said I coined it, I meant I have been calling Ter that term

          I shouldn’t have said coined it — lame, sorry

          Coining, how it was coined —- I don’t know. Other reality shows. ???
          Urban dictionary?

  110. chismosa says:

    Teresa can’t swim? What?

    • chismosa says:

      See they went down the shore growing up yet she never learned to swim?? Wtf

      • princesspindy says:

        I am just making this up but and I have straight hair, I would think when you have hair with that texture, swimming is not high on your list. It seems like it takes a lot of work…

        • chismosa says:

          I have hair WORSE than Teresa’s ( which I think she has blown out and/or keratin treatments) and I learned to swim

          No excuse. Especially a beach person!!!!??????

          But good idea your highness

  111. chismosa says:

    We see how much you love your aunt Milania when you’re on the stripper pole on the party bus this season
    Love love love 💗💗💗

    • Cruickal says:

      It’s pretty crappy that Milania (ha my autocorrect wanted to change that to militant) knows whats going on with Melissa’s past but kids that age just don’t hold back. If you want the truth about something ask a child, they will totally tell you 🙂 I’m a big girl and I do NOT have Michelle Obama arms. I was hanging out with my friends five year old(at the time) she told me I had really big muscles (speaking of my arms) I told her “no sweetie I’m just a bigger girl” (her mother is tiny) she told me, “we’ll your kinda fat, but that’s ok” I couldn’t get offended cause it was just a child honesty. I’m wasn’t angry with her for saying it cause I could totally lose some pounds, and I’m working on it (50 down since November) and she’s a little girl!

      • chismosa says:

        Congrats to you on your hard work! That’s great especially when we see easy breezy daddy’s Lapband on the show.

        I totally GET what you mean about child’s honesty and I firmly believe in that just like I believe that in vino veritas, however Tre and gross philander have never ever made efforts, even when filming (so imagine when not filming !) to be neutral and diplomatic about their disdain for Melissa and/or Joe especially in the presence of their super impressionable kids

        You’d think by now Teresa and her manager/agent would wise up and say, ‘go talk about them in the other room when the cameras are rolling, like maybe you know in the separate bedroom where your hubby Joe Gross sleeps”

        They don’t set limits in that house and its going going to come back and bite them in the a$$ when those girls are older and I can’t wait to see that
        Or rather, Teresa’s team will ferociously mask what is going on then so as not to make her daughters come out looking like Jacqueline’s mess of a daughter
        Would be bad for her “fans”

        • Cruickal says:

          Thank you so much, it’s been a task to say the least! 🙂 I completely get when your saying! They really should not be so out there with the negative comments in front of the children, they pick up on everything! It’s not the greatest for them to talk about it at all but they should respect the situation enough to not let little ears hear! Those little ears always repeat! Even more so they really shouldn’t let their negativity mirror in any of their children. For everyone involved it doesn’t matter if what is said is not factual or is, it shouldn’t be passed down either way. There really is no need for the kids to think negatively about their aunts and uncles or for them to be pawns/ weapons in the sick game all the adults want to play.

          • chismosa says:

            That’s why I think what we hear coming out of the mouths of Melissa’s kids vs Ter’s just tells the whole story.
            Teresa and husband are so gross. They can’t even keep it classy with their kids for their benefit

  112. chismosa says:

    Of course and if Milania’s letter was never sent then it would be all Mel’s fault. As always. Can’t win can’t win

    Joe twisting it around to blame just the other parents – so despicable. How about what CAUSED the other parents to not want you near their kids?
    At Gia’s impressionable age. So disgusting. Go call your gouma and get out of the garage


  113. chismosa says:

    No Joe, skank BEEYOTCH is what you call Teresa, you forgot !

  114. chismosa says:

    Oh thank you jesus someone in Teresa’s family told her they hate the squeak voice

    Nails on a chalkboard

  115. chismosa says:

    I am FLABBERGASTED that Ter talks to Gia about her issues with Mel and the play date and zio Joe

    Clearly Tre has no friends. This is absolutely unbelievable to me. And this is coming from someone who grew up VERY uncomfortably close (comfortable for us we loved it )
    to my own mother !


  116. chismosa says:

    Wait did I miss something? In Mel’s text you can see she says “bring Milania”— in my world that means “you come too”

    She did not say drop her off.

    Of course, blow it up Tre. You give two SCRATCHes about your sil. You are so clearly trying to be the bigger person. Ughhhhhhh

  117. chismosa says:

    The martyr the martyr ! Right for the camera. Yes you move your communion party date Tre. Jacka$$

    Then go home and talk all $hit about this, (which YOU OFFERED to do,)to your gross semi-husband and make sure to talk about it loudly in front of ALL your daughters cause that’s what good parents do !

    Vomit vomit vomit

  118. chismosa says:

    At least I understand Tre.

    She has a false sense of family I think due to not growing up with sisters and also seeing a bad relationship her father had with the sister (and what the father maybe did to his sister’s husband business-wise)
    Maybe she has/had a bad relationship with her mom too who knows, so overcompensated with her own daughters.

    She has no one to confide in and she brings her daughters into things they shouldn’t be privy to , all in the guise of being “real”.

    That, coupled with the virginal marrying to the paisan/ town- cousin-type guy and the slight mental slowness that she has, is at the heart of Tre’s problems IMO

  119. chismosa says:

    I think Tre needs to stick to long dresses or try a jumpsuit

    This WWH is all lies, revisionist history, and SPIN SPIN SUGAR 🍶🍶🍶


  120. chismosa says:

    Apologies for all the late posts— I don’t watch when everyone else does !


  121. cocfarm says:

    Good morning!

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