Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E1 – Buckle Up Buttercups

Reflections on Real Housewives of New Jersey by NoMoreDrama

Disclaimer.  I have become addicted to Mad Men.  New Jersey  – eh – only for the blog. And plus I was at a party and got home late, and only managed to watch about half of the episode.

From what I did see, this episode seemed to be about exploiting the children to gain a sympathetic edit.  The kids got more airtime than the adults.  If I was Gia I would have crawled in a hole when Teresa did the voice over about not having the talk about the birds and the bees until Gia had her monthly. Why in the world would she tell the world something that personal? (the last bit of my sentence).  I’m flustered even typing it.  What happened to the mom-code of silence on girl stuff?  On another topic  – Gia is way too involved in the Melissa-Teresa stuff.  She’s 11.  Fight your own battles Teresa.

Could Milania and Antonia have been more cute?  They have a pureness that no amount of eye rolling and sulking by their moms can steal.  Was this scene filmed out of sequence?  They were talking about the girls’ communion dates (Antonia and Gabriella) which were months and months away if we were to believe the scene was filmed right after Sandy.  My guess is the scene was filmed mid-way through the season and stuck in the premiere.

How cute was Mama Manzo and the child Joey Gorga.  Another touching scene.  Not.  What I heard was this.  Mel, “I wish Caro would mind her own business.”  Caro, “It’s none of my business and I have my own problems.”  Joey “crickets”  Caro, “Since you begged me I’ll phone a woman I haven’t talked to in two years and give her advice about her own family that I know she doesn’t want.”  Joey, “crickets.”  Can you say set up storyline?

There you have it.  Below is MelTheHound’s recap of last night’s show.  My personal view on the autistic spectrum is that it’s a broad range and not something we fully understand today.  I can empathize with Jacqueline and fully understand why she always seems to be having a nervous breakdown.  She needs to be strong for her kids – not weak and unstable.  I wish they hadn’t agreed to this being part of their storyline, but I suppose they had little choice.  Now they’ve opened themselves up to being judged on their parenting style, which is really tough when there are cameras, a young child, and an unsympathetic viewing audience.

As you read the recaps, look at the spoof photos, and discuss the show, remember that these ladies and their husbands and adult children are all playing characters on a soft-scripted reality show.  The only thing real about the show last night was Milania’s and Gabriella’s reactions at seeing each other after a year.  Even Juicy Joe seemed like he was regurgitating lines that someone fed him.  Don’t be upset if someone loves a character you hate, or hates a character you love.  The show is edited to bring emotional responses.  Let’s be strong and not let the show manipulate our real lives and reactions to each other.  We can do it by continuing to see the ridiculous that this franchise has become.

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Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E1 – Buckle Up Buttercups by MelTheHound

The Disclaimer

Hello friends.. When I first started blogging, about anything, the last thing I wanted to write about in an official blog was any of the housewife franchises. So, why am I doing it now and why of all shows, RHONJ? Good question and when I come up with a good answer, I’ll fill you all in. In the meantime, here we are. Watching and discussing what is arguably the most divisive show that Bravo has to offer us. It doesn’t matter which ‘team’ you choose to support, there will be others opposing your viewpoint. That’s fine. All that is asked by our hostess and me as well, is that you express your opposition with some respect for one another. NMD has told us that if things get too nasty, towards each other, she will shut this down. Let’s remember that we were all civil toward one another before this hot mess of a show began, there is no reason not to continue that behavior. None of these hyenas on these shows are worth blowing friendships over as, I would bet good money, if there weren’t dollars involved, would not give us the time of day (Happy meetings like that of our Plainviewsue meeting Teresa not withstanding).

Honestly, if anyone had told me two years ago that I would even be spending time watching these shows, I would have told them they were nuts. I guess that makes me the nut for watching them. Further, if anyone had told me then that I would be here, discussing and even recapping these shows, I would have checked them into a rubber room with a straightjacket because Clearly, they would have been deemed certifiably crazy. Here we are however. Those of you who have read my recaps in the past know that I write what I see, as I watch. You also know that my reactions are sometimes a part of that writing. (Here is the disclaimer part) I do not go back and edit my reactions later in the show or based on what anyone else may say. I also don’t expect everyone or even anyone to agree with those reactions. They are opinion and that’s all they are. Everyone is free to offer theirs, I ask that you allow me that same courtesy. I also ask you to remember that everything we see and hear on these shows, has already happened and not necessarily in the order we are shown. While there may not be a formal script for these hyenas, Bravo and its production team clearly have story lines they think will keep us watching and (in this case) arguing. Let’s not give them the satisfaction of being at each other’s throats this time around. This is the only time I’ll put this disclaimer in the recaps.

The Preview

Last night, June 1, we got one of Bravo’s ‘first look’ programs. These are the first 15 minutes of the upcoming episode designed, to entice us to watch the full show on its regular air date (in this case, Sunday at 8pm eastern time). The show opens with some flashback of all the nasty things that were said at the S4 reunion. One that sticks out in my mind, to this day, when I give it any thought at all, is the Marcos Gorgas telling Teresa that they didn’t want their kids playing with the Guidice kids. Bad influence and all. That’s why they were selling their house and moving away. Now, I don’t believe a word that comes out of that Marco woman’s mouth but, it appears that sentiment is going to be a part of the season. We’ll get back to that in a bit. At the end of this preview, we also hear dear sweet Jacqueline state in her TH that Giudice and Gorga problems are right on top of her priority list along with getting her asshole bleached. It’s good to know that she bleaches (and I assume waxes) her behind but it really wasn’t info we need to hear. While I understand her meaning, I think she could have chosen a less blunt way to put it. Mainly because, I don’t believe her. I get the feeling I’m still going to hate Jacqueline this season. Maybe it’s just part of Bravo editing that is part of a bigger scene. My question was, if that’s the way she really feels then why is her nose so far up Teresa’s ass? I seem to remember the meeting on the deck where she told Teresa that for her own sanity, she was going to distance herself from Teresa. What ever happened to that or did I imagine hearing it?

Key: JoeT = Joe Giudice (T stands for Teresa), Joey = Joe Gorga,  Momz = Caroline

Anyway, we get to see scenes of 3 of their shore houses post Hurricane Sandy. MeGo calls Sandy a bitch and for once, I agree with her. Each of, the Giudice’s, The Gorga’s and the Wakilies, visit their shore homes and all are completely trashed. Water was apparently 5 or so feet high inside these homes and everything was floating inside. I’m sure we are talking about salt water here too so everything that it touched, is likely destroyed. JoeT is shown already at work doing the demolition for rebuilding and refinishing when Teresa arrives. She’s disgusted by the sight of what has happened to her house and I can’t say I blame her. I’m sure everyone there felt the same way as for many, these are their Only homes rather than weekend getaway spots. Joe asks T if she’s heard from her brother.. She says no.. Apparently, they hadn’t spoken in months, probably since the reunion. Supposedly, she’s dead to him. Over at the Gorga’s, autotune Melissa wants to know how the water even got inside the house. Umm, MeGo, that large body of water at what you call the shore? The Atlantic Ocean, It’s called water pressure and storm surge and it always wins. Just ask the folks in New Orleans, 9th ward, they’ll be happy to tell you. I know that’s stupid but so was that question. Joey says no problem, it’s all rebuild-able, just have to get to it. He is also lamenting the fact that he hasn’t heard from his sister. Phone rings both ways there, angel from God. Just sayin… During these scenes, Teresa and JoeT note that this disaster has been good for their economy. Given it a boost. Being in the construction business myself, I can agree with that sentiment but I don’t know how saying it is going to play out for them.

The final full scene we see on this preview is in the Giudice home. Teresa and the girls are gathering up fashionable items and toys to give away to the hurricane victims. After all, they need fabulous fashions to wear. I think Teresa used it as an excuse to clean out her closet and do something nice for the show (seemed rather staged to me) but it was a nice gesture to give away her Jerseylicious wares, shoes included. Milania is giving away her giant teddy bear, to a little girl or boy. Audriana, is having a ball running around in her mom’s shoes (cute) and takes a face plant right on the floor. She turns to the camera, smiles, gets up and walks away. Being tossed around by her bigger sister has turned that kid into a Sherman Tank. Teresa and Milania (now 6) were talking about Joey. Milania misses her cousin Antonia and her uncle and that other one, whose name she can’t remember (Gino)… Side note: It seems to me that Teresa and her SIL and by extension, brother, have been at each other’s throats that kid’s (Gino) entire life so it doesn’t surprise me that Milania barely knows the kid. This preview wraps with upcoming scenes of Joey talking to Momz about his issues with his sister. Wrong person IMO but we’ll see how it works out. I’ve already told you about the last part of this preview, Jac’s statement about her asshole. I’ll leave you with that thought as we get on with the rest of the show..

One more note here. I’m sure that all 4 of the families on this show did things to help victims of hurricane Sandy (and the following snowstorms). Regardless of how big or small and regardless of their perceived reasons for doing so, I’m not going to trash any of them for it. I have never been in that kind of need but I would hope, that if I needed it, my neighbors would be willing to lend a hand, as I would for them. I don’t think Charity should be measured in any way shape or form. Just accepted as the gift that it is and it isn’t fodder for thrashing someone. End Note.

I won’t be recapping the ‘first looks’ as previews every week (unless you want me to, Can you stand more than one Jersey blog per week? I’ll let you decide but if I do the first looks, the regular blog will pick up where those leave off), I just wanted to get a head start on this week’s blog. So, with that… Buckle Up.. Here we go.

The Show

(some of this may be a bit out of order. I’ve watched it twice and can’t do it again. So if it’s not exactly as it happened, or I miss something, apologies)

The rest of the show begins with Jac. She tells us that several months ago, her son was diagnosed with Autism, a developmental disorder. I guess one of the first things that happens with Autistics, is they lose the ability to verbally communicate (with words). Since it happens early, I don’t know how may words they lose but that’s what happens. In fact, if I am not mistaken, early signs of Autism are typically mistaken for a hearing loss because the kid stops responding to verbal ques. She wishes she had a highlighted map showing the path to a cure but no map exists. I don’t know if she’s deluded herself into thinking there Is a cure or if that’s just a mother’s wish. I would like to think the latter. Anyway, Apparently, they have just brought Nicolas home from pre-school or whatever program they have him in. She reads from his notebook what he did that day (rather than him being able to tell her). As the Lauritas are all crowded around this kid, trying to get him to do some brain exercise, he would rather play with the iPad and is having a bit of an episode showing his displeasure. Something that I would expect from any 3yo kid. Eventually he says, “iPad” and they consider that a victory. While they were all home during Sandy, Jac was able to work with him constantly and this was the result. That’s great. Until he calls the dog, iPad.

I’ve told you all before about my friend Janet, on YouTube (madrosed) who has a now 20yo Autistic son. He has it pretty bad, complete with seizures. He is now 20 and this coming year will be his last in his vocational type school he is in. I’m sure those of you with Autistic kids know the type of school I’m talking about. Once he’s finished with that at age 21, he’s done. He has the mentality, I would say of about an 8 or 9 year old. At least outwardly so. No one really knows what goes on in his mind. When he speaks, it’s usually parroted words fed to him. The entire family and his teachers has been working with him his entire life and right now, this is the best he can muster. He, most likely, will never know a life of independence. There are things he is good at but he needs almost constant supervision. Chris needs to get his wife off of this show, off of twitter and whatever other social media she’s addicted to, and handle their business with that kid. Not just wait for time off due to some natural disaster. For a long time, Nicolas is going to need 24 hour looking after. Nicolas, realistically, may be in diapers until he’s nearly a teen. I get that they are still feeling their way but this ride has just begun for them..

TH Chris wonders (jokingly) if the kid just doesn’t want to talk to any of them. If that were the case then I would (jokingly) say the kid is not Autistic but he is a brilliant genius with good taste in conversational company (may turn out to be one.. who knows?). I don’t really know a lot about this disease and I’m not going to dedicate a lot of time to these scenes. I don’t have any hopes of really learning anything from them as, I feel, that if it weren’t for Nicolas’ condition, Jac wouldn’t have a plot line. Yes, I think they are pimping their son for a storyline. That would be partially okay with me if Bravo were really interested in spreading awareness but we all know, that’s rarely the case. There just isn’t enough drama in a screaming kid to keep viewers watching in their minds. Maybe they will prove me wrong.

The Letter

These next scenes already have me questioning timelines. Joey wants to go out with ‘the boys’. I don’t know who the boys are and I guess we’ll never know because Melissa says no. He thinks she’s still spooked about the storms or maybe they are still happening. Who knows? She shows him a letter that Antonia wrote for a school assignment. It’s a typical type 3 or 4 line letter that a 2nd grader might write.. She’s addressed it to Milania. She tells Milania what she is doing and asks if her cousin is doing any of those things as well. She tells Milania that she misses her (These kids haven’t seen each other in over a year). Melissa decides to mail the letter at her daughter’s request. Since the adults have seen each other, the angel from god has told his sister that she’s dead to him. MeGo is still smarting from strippergate and will have nothing to do with Teresa until she owns up to being completely at fault for everything bad that’s happened in the last thousand years. The angelic Gorgas have nothing to do with anything that has happened, including saying that they don’t want their kids influenced by the Giudice girls. It’s all “inedible” says Joey, that when the adults are fighting, so too will the kids.

Skip ahead a couple days, the letter arrives to Milania (Milania and Audriana are wrestling over that giant teddy bear that she said she wanted to donate. Did she? How much time has really elapsed here?). I may have missed it but I didn’t notice a stamp on that envelope addressed to Milania nor was there a return address. In other words, I don’t think it came through the mail. Maybe I’m wrong. Anyway, Milania reads the letter and decides she wants to call her cousin. Meanwhile, Gia takes the letter and shows her father. We’ll get to that in a second. Milania wants a play date with Antonia. Antonia starts to tell her about her upcoming birthday party. I guess MeGo invited the kids of some of Teresa’s close friends to this party but didn’t invite her daughters. Through some twitter connection, Gia found out about it but Milania didn’t have a clue about it. Smooth Move there MeGo Exlax. Anyway, the planning of the play date is now in the works. Back to the garage with Gia and JoeT. She notes that she’s not able to see those cousins and hasn’t in over a year. Joe tells her that isn’t her fault or her sister’s, it’s the adults who are acting like idiots. It’s nothing the kids did but unfortunately, THEY (the Gorgas), use their kids that way. I’m sure this will come out in some later drama. We’ll stay tuned for that.

Let’s visit Kathy and Rosie and their mom for a moment.. I for one am sick of Rosie. I don’t give a damn that she’s a lesbian and don’t look forward to hearing about her lack of a dating and sex life. I believe that is the only reason she was cast for this show and it was played out two seasons ago. I just don’t give a shit. That’s just me. If you care that one of her hot online dating contacts turned out to be a 300 pound blond with nasty teeth, then maybe you’ll be more entertained by her than I am. As for Kathy, I would rather watch paint dry. Of course, the S4 reunion comes up as does Rosie’s outburst back stage. It isn’t her fault of course, that’s just how she rolls when you piss her off.

How about a visit to the Manzo residence. We all remember that Momz and King ALbert, moved to Hoboken (with Lauren in tow) last fall. Well, here is their apartment.. undecorated for the most part and there is a knock on the door. Surprise, it’s the Gorgas. We didn’t see Al but Momz welcomed (the invited) Gorgas to her new home. She’s downsizing but hasn’t decided to sell the house yet. If I’m not mistaken, she is in the same building as her sons or very close by. Fortunately, we weren’t exposed to them this evening. Even Melissa says that it seems she’s following her sons around NJ. Momz says that isn’t so, they barely see each other (cough cough bullshit). A little bit of a fun fact about this apartment is, they have a set of very high powered binoculars on a tripod pointed out the window. Maybe her sons live in the building across the way and she wants to keep her peepers on them, I don’t know. However, the things they have witnessed with them on family fun night are things that should remain private. Here is what I think. I think Momz and Al are taking a bit of a break and he’s living in the house and she moved to Hoboken to be closer to her boys. How far from this place is The Brownstone? Momz has said she’s not going to involve herself with the Gorga-Giudice drama. She notes Joey looks sad. They tell her about the invite for a play date. Momz goes into some dissertation about arguing siblings. We see a flashback of Teresa and Dina’s “blood is thicker than water” discussion at T’s Fabalini party. The fact that Momz and Dina no longer speak is also Teresa’s fault. Momz has no responsibility in that, just like the Gorga’s with Teresa. This evening ends with some uncomfortable banter and Melissa wishing Momz would mind her own business. It’s just weird to her. I agree (and it ain’t over).

The following day, Momz runs to Jac’s house to tell her about the previous evening. She starts in and then we cut to the TH where Jac says, that drama between Gorgas and Giudice’s rates right up there on her priority list with getting her asshole bleached. In the context, I would think it funny but we all know that Jac can’t mind her own business either.

Somewhere in all of this, we get another mother daughter shopping scene with Teresa and Gia… I swear Gia looks like she’s 15. She acts like she’s 25 but, she’s 11 in this scene. Gia doesn’t like her mom’s taste which is stuck in the 80s or perhaps, 90s, I don’t know for certain. Gia ‘likes’ a guy. Kind of shocking to Teresa who wants to know what’s going on. Overall, cute scene I guess with Gia rolling her eyes a lot. Throughout all of this time, this play date for Antonia and Milania is being planned. Even Gia gets in on the act when she types in a text message for her mom looking to suggest or confirm details. The detail that Teresa wanted confirmed but didn’t know how or want to ask, that Gia sent the text for, was that Teresa would accompany Milania on the play date. The two of them couldn’t seem to nail down the where or how. Neither one trusts the other with their daughter is what it seems to boil down to.

The big day

The day of the play date finally arrives. It’s going to be at this bead shop where the girls can make beaded jewelery. As Melisssa is getting ready to leave, Joey drops the info that Momz, wants a play date with him. Got that? She wants to meet with him over coffee and discuss his relationship with his sister. Mego, who I’m strangely kind of liking this episode, finds that just a bit odd. Joey doesn’t so he goes. We’ll get back to that in a minute.

The respective moms leave for the date and Teresa and Milania are the first to arrive. They are bedazzled by all the pretty beads and are looking around the place when Melissa arrives. The two little girls hug it out, Milania has a birthday present for Antonia.. An iPhone 5. She already has an iPhone 4. What the phuck does a second grader need a phone (any phone really) like that for? I asked my aunt what hers cost, she said nearly $1000. Anyway, TH Melissa says that the way to be a good aunt is not to buy expensive gifts but to apologize to the mother (her). I don’t like MeGo anymore. As the girls are trying to have some fun playing with the beads and making stuff, Melissa is directing them on how to do it. What colors to put where, etc. TH Teresa says just leave them alone and let them be kids for a minute. I agree.

Remember in the past I’ve said, that if you want to see where future drama is coming from, watch these ‘get togethers’. It’s usually a lunch or dinner party but in this case, a play date for two small girls. We have already seen this play out in real time but, Teresa asks MeGo about her plans for the girls’ communion. It’s May 11, 2013 for both of them. Ruhroh.. I wonder what staged bullshit we’ll see as a result. Let’s not forget about that birthday party the girls aren’t invited to. Stay tuned folks. The play date ends with the two pairs going their separate ways, with the girls crying that they cannot see each other more often.

Back to Joey’s play date with Momz… Basically she wants to keep harping on him with her motherly advice or big sisterly advice regarding his relationship with Teresa. He feels that Momz is like the sister he never had. Ummm, Okay. Maybe if he didn’t treat his real sister like shit for the sake of a reality show, he would have the sister he wants. Just sayin. The whole thing was just weird and creepy to me. Momz should follow her own advice and butt out. It can’t be that great because to our knowledge, she still isn’t speaking with Dina and who knows how many of her other siblings.

That’s about it folks. There wasn’t any arguing or fighting in this episode but we all know that tensioned peace won’t last long. We are treated to the preview of the upcoming season. There is some I’m excited to see and other stuff I’m dreading. I get the feeling it’s all in the same scene too. Overall, this episode seemed total typical bravo bullshit. Completely staged and manufactured at every turn. I’m already questioning timelines due to what I think is piss poor editing. However, I’m sure if we ask Fanny Andy, he’ll tell us this is exactly how it happened. Many are thankful though that the Manzoids weren’t shown, Fishy Richie barely made it on to this episode… Their cast blogs are already up from what I understand including The Manifesto (thank you VV 😉 ). I’ll say that during the chat, it was nice to see some familiar names that I had not seen in awhile. I hope you’re all doing well. I’ll see you next week, probably a day late though with the next recap. I don’t know if this recap is what you were expecting or hoping for but there it is.

Til next week, Peace. MTH.

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263 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E1 – Buckle Up Buttercups

  1. BB says:

    How about a good morning song? Then y’all can talk about NJ
    Good Morning!
    &http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaItcuEd__4

    • cocfarm says:

      Good morning again!

      I have some reading to do after chores. Thanks for supplying the reading material Mel, nmd and boston! Very funnyb stuff Boston. That clown picture will give me nightmares tonight!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      oh darn, can’t listen to it til I get home!!! oh and good morning!!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Good morning!!

  2. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Thks for the laughs last night during Jersey. Youse are a hoot. 🙂 MTH I’m looking forward to reading your special brand of snark at lunch.
    Have a great day everyone.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Good Morning!! Back from Cali…best trip in recent memory…such a great time with my DD. Looking forward to reading the blog and watching my dvr’d NJHW. Just got in this morning at 1a.m….eeeeek!!!! Back at my desk, coffee by my side….is it 5 o’clock yet??

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Good morning Powell!
        Hey Lainey-glad you had a wonderful visit with LaineyGirl!! You are gonna be tired today!!

      • Powell says:

        Welcome back Lainey. I’m glad you & your DD had a great time. Back at 1 & then work at 5. Whew!! You sure you won’t need an IV w/coffee? Take it easy.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          no, no, no…flight arrived at 1a.m., finally fell asleep at 3a.m., up at 7:30 a.m. and now I’m looking forward to 5PM so’s I can go home and catch up on NJ and some sleep, hopefully not at the same time. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  3. missusmc says:

    Good morning, everyone 🙂

    I touched on this last night, and I promise I won’t be that person who doesn’t know when to let things go, so here are my thoughts on Jacqueline. I will say my peace and then be done, never to harp on it again. Jacqueline subscribes to the Jenny McCarthy school of thought, in which a child can be “cured” of autism. That’s why I hate to hear her thoughts on recovery. There are parents who truly desperate enough to do anything to cure their children, and I will not go into detail with how dangerous it can be; nor am I implying that Jacqueline herself is doing anything harmful to her child. I will say that the mentality of “recovering” someone from autism CAN be a slippery slope, and many autistic people are insulted by the very idea. Autism is not a curse; it is not something to fear or cause us to pity Jacqueline. I would hope that they can find a way to show the joy that Nicholas brings and highlight his strengths rather than his challenges. No one knows what his capabilities are. As someone who is raising kids on the spectrum, I can tell you firsthand that no one has any reason to think that my kids (or Nicholas, or anyone else) will not live a full, happy life and be able to contribute something wonderful to this world. And at this point, all the kids need to get the hell off this show (and Teresa needs an ally on this show so Gia doesn’t have to be her shopping girlfriend to gossip with).

    Is it just me, or is Teresa looking rough these days? That’s not an insult; I really believe that all this drama has really affected her! And is Joe Giudice sober these days, because I actually could understand what he was saying for a change! Way to enunciate, Joe! Sad, but those are all my thoughts on the entire first show.

    • Thank you for articulating that so well. I’m sure Jacqueline loves her child and is doing her very best – but she does need to get off the show.

    • Donna says:

      Thank you for the education on Autism, which I have no knowledge of.

      • missusmc says:

        I’m learning as I go, and one thing I have learned about the spectrum is that it is very wide and comes with an array of symptoms and characteristics. I’m certainly not trying to criticize Jacqueline’s choice of treatment; rather, I would encourage her to really embrace who her child is and focus on what he can do rather than what he can’t. There are a host of autistic adult self-advocates who I choose to listen to, rather than moms of autistic individuals who are focused on recovering their children. I would also tell her to get her children off reality TV 🙂 No one’s going to an Andy Cohen produced TV show to be educated, so her “awareness” excuse for returning to the show is BS!

        • 2Stupid says:

          We have a friend whose oldest child is in my son’s class and whose youngest was diagnosed as autistic last year. I can tell it has been trying for our friends, yet they do not let it hold them back. They try to give their son as many experiences as possbile, while making sure he gets the one on one help he deserves. I can tell you this, they would never in a million years act like this is something that is going to miraculously change one day. They both go to support groups and focus on making their child’s life as fulfilling as it can be. I am not comfortable with how Jacqueline is portraying this either.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I love your comments about this; thanks for the education and balanced (positive) point of view. You obviously are accepting your children as they are and not subscribing to the “poor me” school of thought. Good for you and good for your babies. ❤

    • jules says:

      I understand your point missusmc and agree that Jac should take Nicholas off the show. For some strange reason I actually watched part of the show last night but did not see Jac. I read her blog on Bravo this morning where she writes that they’re trying to “recover” Nicholas from autism. Perhaps it’s because I didn’t see the whole program and do not have a child with autism but I took something different from Jac’s remarks. From her comments I inferred that they are trying to recover the son they knew before the diagnosis rather than trying to recover him from autism. In her blog she writes how Nicholas regressed and they are working hard to get him back to age appropriate behavior. I do know several families with kids on the autism spectrum and one of the things I’ve noticed with all of them is that in the beginning they talk about “curing” their child. So maybe Jac is still in that phase where she’s hoping that hard work will fix Nicholas. I do not believe a child can be cured from autism and I also know autistic children who have grown into functioning adults. However, I do have empathy for Jac and her family for having to deal with autism and all the various thing that come with it. I’m not disagreeing with you missusmc, just sharing how I viewed things.

      • missusmc says:

        I’m totally not offended, and I am just one perspective on raising autistic children, so I’m so not an expert here! My opinion is actually not a popular opinion with many moms, so I’m not expecting everyone to agree with me. I would like to say, however, that recovering a child back to the child before diagnosis is somewhat the same thing as removing the autism altogether, because it was a time in which the symptoms were not present. I do think Jacqueline does have a good heart and wants what’s best for her child. I just think we all need to be reminded that our children can hear us talking at all times, even if you don’t think they’re paying attention. I would prefer to hear more positive talk from Jacqueline, because even if Nicholas can’t hear his mom talk about how she wants him to recover, he will someday have access to the internet and be able to read what she has said. I just want him to feel fully accepted.

        • soxwalsh says:

          As a mom, I am in complete agreement with your viewpoint. I also agree that Jacqueline’s statement to recover Nicholas back to the child he was is impossible. I just get the feeling that she hasn’t reached the acceptance part of parenting a child with different needs. Both my sons had different issues growing up, one had a hearing loss that required hearing aids and other accomodations and the other has learning disabilities that prevent him from learning the way so called “regular” kids do. I talked about their issues out-loud all the time when they were growing up because I wanted them to understand they weren’t responsible for their difficulties and because I feel strongly that education is power so the more we discuss such issues, the more powerful we become. My sons hated it sometimes but they learned that because school work came harder to them, they had to take an active role in their own education. It was not an excuse to do poorly. We had varying degrees of success over the years but my youngest graduated from high school over the weekend and they’re both in good places. I know this is apples vs. oranges but I believe the premise is the same. I think Jacqueline is talking about recovery now because that’s the place she is in right now. My hope is that as she learns more about autism and how it affects her son, she will realize that only by accepting him as he is will she recover any of him at all. The parents I know who have been on the autism roller coaster and now accept the reality have become fierce advocates for their children. I think that while Jacqueline tackling this issue on television may be altruistic on her part, it is probably not the best thing for her family at the moment. When we know better, we do better. JMHO

          • soxwalsh says:

            By the way, I have two names for some stupid reason. I’m both jules and soxwalsh. Sorry for the confusion but I don’t know how to fix it.

            • Powell says:

              jules are you trying to confuse us? 🙂 Congratulations to tour son on his graduation. That’s a big achievement for all teens. That’s so great and congratulations to you and your husband for all your hard work and participation in your kids education to assist them at being successful.

          • missusmc says:

            This is why I love this site! It’s not just about discussing housewives 🙂 I love reading other people’s experiences!

            • soxwalsh says:

              My sentiments exactly missusmc. I love reading about other’s viewpoints and experiences. I’ve learned a great deal about things that I’ve never been affected by. The HW’s are what start the conversations but the bloggers are what keep it interesting.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I only disagree on this part of what you said Missusmc: “…Jacqueline does have a good heart…” I’ve never seen Jac display a good heart in any of the episodes, ever. Just basing that on what I’ve personally seen on this show.

          • missusmc says:

            Hey, from what I hear, Jac has a lot of free time on her hands and likes to start twitter wars or call people out publicly. I’m just covering my bases in case she happens upon this 🙂

          • Amalfi says:

            Haha Lainey, I wanted to say that too… caring about Nicholas doesn’t mean Jacqueline has a good heart. Even the most uncompassionate and obdurate of people will still love for their own children.

            My nephew is autistic too, and I agree with everything Missusmc states. It is a condition, not an injury from which you can recover. And while I agree that Bravo is not where one goes to get educated, it is a place where misinformation can be spread at wildfire rates. Sad.

    • Mel says:

      The term “recovery” means when the child regains language. Jax fails to clarify that term so ppl tend to assume she means recover from autism…..which is not the case. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

      I don’t think it is in Nick’s best interest to have a camera plastered to his face on a toxic reality show. You don’t have to be on a reality show to bring awareness to autism. I think Jacqueline has a history of exploiting her children for sympathy, she did it with Ashlee and now she is doing with Nicholas. Toni Braxton is on a reality show and we only see her son in the background. She filmed one episode of her going to receive an award for her work regarding autism and NEVER had the cameras in her kids face at all. Her son and his brother like their cousins were all background kids. To me that was super classy and respectful. Holly Robinson Peete and Jenny mcarthy both have autistic sons and they advocate like crazy. Neither one needed to be on a reality show to put their message out there and they are the biggest celeb moms bringing awareness to autism.

      • missusmc says:

        I can totally appreciate this is her journey, too. I just think you have to understand your platform and what you put out there and the effect it has. When you push for recovery, even to just recover language, it sends the message that those who remain nonverbal have failed or are less desirable. It feeds into the concept of verbal communication being the measure of function. How will she feel if Nicholas is nonverbal in the end? How will he feel when he knows that’s what his parent’s goal is? Don’t get me wrong; I, too, want my kids to speak, as well. But I am very careful with how I talk around them, because I don’t want them to ever feel like they are failures.

        Agreed about other moms of autistic kids. And if Jac was a part of a documentary, I wouldn’t be so upset. But this is a show where tables are flipped, strippers are discussed, and gross body bleaching references are made. A little out of place, you know?

        • cusi77 says:

          Thank you for your comments Mel and missus. <33333333

        • Mel says:

          missus,
          Thank you for this comment. You bought an entirely different perspective on this issue and I have to say u have enlightened me. I never thought about it that way and this truly makes sense. This made me think about my best friend. She works with children and adults with autism. She has worked in this field for almost 12 years now and does ABA.

          One of the families that she work with has two autistic kids. The older son was not very verbal (he says one or two words for what he wants now) and the younger daughter is mainstream and is considered a math genius at her school. They are both autistic and in different parts within the spectrum. When I first met the older son (as my friend is extremely close to the family and although she no longer works for them she has remained part of the family) he did not speak at all and would run around my home and have tantrums (he was only 7 at the time). Now he is 16 and can communicate his needs and play on the computer etc. The little girl is now 14 and she talks and talks and can calculate the day ur birthday will fall in any given year and can carry a conversation. Both have excelled within their own pace and both are success stories to their parents for different reasons. When it comes to autism there so many DIFFERENT stories and experiences…..it’s not a one size fits all experience.

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          Hello Missusmc. I am the mother of a 15yr old Autistic son who lost speech and then didn’t ‘speak’ til he was six. When he ‘started’ talking my RealDad said he was speaking chinese as his speech was difficult to understand. With speech therapy it has become clearer but still sometimes others have difficulty understanding his speech until he spells out the word. Fortunately, my RealSon had hyperlexia and was able to read and recognize words at age 2! He’s got a college level vocubulary and it’s Amazing yet the way he speaks people would underestimate his intelligence. More the fool them! He doesn’t speak Spanish because I was told to choose a language and stick with it, but now he’ll be taking Spanish in school. When RealHusband and I speak about him in Spanish he tells us to speak English and I remind him when his racist butt was 7 and he told me ‘This is America, speak the King’s English! LOL He is mainstreamed and going to high school this year going for his ‘regular’ standards diploma just like everyone else with a few accomodations. He’s made honor roll again and i’m going to his awards ceremony tomorrow.

          While I wince when I see Jac and her expectations for ‘recovery’ my heart breaks because I remember the emotional ride we go on with our children who have special needs. It’s denial, faith, determination and then understanding. Early intervention is the key and I tried a slew of therapies including the distastrous gluten-free casien free diet. I always tell the mother of toddlers to get ‘Toilet Training in Less than a Day’ by Nathan Azrin as I trained RealSon at 2 1/2 in a day and he woke up at 1:00am and used the bathroom the first night! Good Read and excellent training advice. IT WORKS!!
          Back to Jac. I’ll be a little kinder to her this season as I realize her ‘breakdowns’ are probably related to her feeling overwhelmed, frustrated and needing some escapism. SMH. Doesn’t excuse it but like ChrisRock says…. “I UNDERSTAND”.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            You’re a good kid, Amber. I on the other hand won’t be as understanding, because I believe she should get off of this show to deal with her son outside of the media glare. And my glare. I have a mean glare. wooooooo! I’m glaring right now, can you feel it?

          • missusmc says:

            Oh, I understand. I would be lying if I said I didn’t cry when I first received the diagnosis. I just always want to keep in mind that just because my children are different, doesn’t mean they’re not taking in everything that’s going on around them and learning. My children are bright, loving, wonderful boys, and I would never, ever want to do anything that would make them feel ashamed of who they are. Nicholas seems like such a sweet boy, as well, and while I would never question whether or not Jacqueline loves him, because clearly she does, I do question whether or not she’s really doing everything she can to protect Nicholas. From just a practical standpoint, does he have sensory issues that the film crew is adding to? Is he okay with the changes to his routine that filming brings? From a more personal standpoint, how will he feel when someone makes fun of him online? Or when someone calls him the r-word online? Or when someone calls Jac a bad mother, or criticizes his own progress? I know NO ONE in this community would ever, ever be that cruel, but we all know the internet, and hate is prevalent online. I question Jacqueline’s decision to not fully protect her child from that kind of hate and judgement, because even though it’s not right and people shouldn’t be cruel, they are, and Nicholas isn’t old enough to decide for himself whether or not he even wants to be used as an autism advocate. For those reasons, (and the other ones I’ve already said), I think Jacqueline has made a very, very bad decision with allowing him to be filmed.

            • Amber...RealWife says:

              I see your points and agree. If Jac is soley using//exploiting her son for a paycheck, shame on her. However, if they show her as a loving mother going to great lengths to apply techniques to further Nic’s development AND they show her as a gossip crazed, wine drinking, twittering loon, then BRAVO has actually capture reality in a bottle!

      • Powell says:

        Mel while I was reading Missusmc & Soxwalsh I was thinking like you wanting to give Jac the benefit of the doubt that she meant recovering previously learned skills. Like everyone I’m sure she wants the best for Nicholas just like her other kids but it just seems that if she’s on Twitter how is she helping Nicholas? And they really should not have him on the show as Tre & Mel should limit their kids involvement in the show & not have them in adult disagreements & fights. The kids didn’t ask to be on this show & they deserve some privacy.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Thanks for you comments missusmc. I agree completely. I also did not like the use of the word ‘recovery’ because it is commonly used with a disease or an illness.

      Clearly, you understand that you can to help your child (children) reach their full potential and still love and accept them for who they are.

    • realhousewifeva says:

      Great post! I don`t know much about Autism but I do know enough to know that Jac shouldn`t be on the show.
      I didn`t watch the episode and probably will mostly just stick to reading the recaps like I do with OC, but I agree that from pics and interviews I`ve seen, Teresa does look rough. Her makeup artist also makes her look like a drag queen (I follow Priscilla on instagram and it seems to be her way of doing makeup). I was watching old episodes when Bravo was replaying Season 1 a couple weeks ago, and T was so much more youthful and fresh faced. I know we all age, but it`s only been about 4 or 5 years.

    • MM in OC says:

      I don’t want to sound too judgemental here and hope not to offend, but did anyone find it odd that with no access to power for a few days and real focus on her kid, that he actually did improve? I’m actually suprised they made this connection because for me the obvious conclusion is that he’s not getting as much hands on time that he needs. Thoughts?

      I don’t have kids, but have a few friends that have kids diagnosed autistic and recently aspbergers. I know that it’s quite a challenge with huge time commitments with special schools, learning to associate with other people, etc.

  4. BB says:

    Mel, I didn’t watch, but you did a great recap. If I were you I wouldn’t do the first looks – they’re included in the episode anyway. You’re doing enough as it is. Thanks.

    Boston, thanks for the pics. Hilarious as usual.

  5. The other thing that was off in the timeline was the apartment for the Manzos. I don’t think they got that until mid-season. Plus they are still tweeting photos of parties in their house.

  6. Donna says:

    hummm I wonder if the apartment is their way of easing Lauren out of the house and story line

  7. missusmc says:

    Was it just me, or did last night’s episode have particularly depressing feel to it (besides the obvious hurricane Sandy storyline, of course)? Usually, the first episode is like returning back to school after summer vacation. You can’t wait to find out what everyone’s been up to, and you’re even friendly to the people you don’t really care for. Last night, it was just hard to watch, because nothing’s ever changing. Everyone just looks older and seems more bitter. Even the sidekick Rosie is bitter now! And the children are all bitter. I miss the good old days- even with Danielle on, this show had a lighter feel to it.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Haven’t had a chance to watch yet, but I supposed it’s inevitable that everyone gets jaded and… I like the use your word…bitter. The bitter is unique to NJ, I’ll bet because of all the family connections. I find it a challenge to even play a board game with my siblings and we’re all old now!! haha!! No one can push my buttons like my brothers and sisters. Nevertheless, I’m looking forward to watching the dvr’d show…I was in an airplaine last night when it aired.

      • missusmc says:

        I definitely think the family aspect makes it harder to move on. I would like to think that Bravo didn’t really know fully what they were getting into when they cast Melissa. Those are some deep wounds that you can’t just get over with a new season.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Tre and Mel are too much alike, to ever get along… imo.

          • Obsessed w RH says:

            Very true. They say the things that you don’t like in others are the aspects of your personality that you don’t like about yourself. There is also an oedipal conflict with Teresa that I think makes the relationship between the two of them impossible. While it was probably gross to say that Joe Gorga felt he had a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with Teresa I think it was true and that’s why Teresa was so upset when Joe Gorga married Melissa….Teresa was no longer the #1 female in his life and that aggravated her and thus the blame fell on Melissa. I have the SAME issue with my mother in law and husband. She used my husband as a surrogate spouse because she hated her husband and so when I came into the picture I was the devilish b*tch who stole her son and I was a horrible person etc and she made him feel horrible if he wanted to be with me not her…..same cray cray mentality…..

        • Powell says:

          But what really are the deep wounds? To me it looks like a lot of jealousy & one upmanship. Tre & Mel jealous of one another for material things & Joey’s love & affection, jealousy between Joe & Joey for the affections of Tre’s parents, Joey/Mel & Tre/Joe jealous of each other’s home & possessions & one upmanship to have bigger & better homes, etc. These are things to have deep wounds about? I love my family & they get on my nerves at times & I tell them how I feel and then move on. I don’t have time or energy for pettiness and that’s how I see Tre/Joe & Mel/Joey.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I seriously couldn’t get over the anger of Rosie…

      • missusmc says:

        Rosie’s anger was scary. I will never be able to look at her the same way again!

    • Powell says:

      They look older because they are bitter carrying around ridiculous hate & animosity for one another. That ages people.

  8. Obsessed w RH says:

    Hello all!
    I know that I’m generally in the minority here in my disdain for Teresa and her husband and my personal like of Melissa and Joe but that is neither here nor there. One thing I absolutely cannot stand and I will say Melissa does a slightly better job of avoiding this than Teresa does is the fact that they constantly talk about their issues with the other family in front of their kids. Gia unfortunately has access to twitter, facebook etc and so I could understand that she might get information like that elsewhere but why is it so difficult to step out of the room and have these discussions? Even Melissa should do a better job of explaining things to her daughter without the obviously air of disapproval or irritation with the Giudices. Trust me, I hate my in laws but I never EVER would let my children know that. That is why I 100% believe that none of them REALLY want to make up and this “makeup” this season is just manufactured bull sh*t.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      HI Obsessed. I agree that the adults do need to try harder to shelter the kids from their conflict and Gia being a bit older would make that a more daunting task.

      But I do think there might be a bit of sincerity with a reconciliation…I think Papa Gorga being sick on some level did motivate them to try to make some peace.

    • chismosa says:

      Thank you Obsessed!!! I’m totally with you on this and said so on the last blog.

      ⭐⭐⭐⭐big stars!!! ❗ ❗ ❗

  9. HuskerHuny says:

    After watching the three-part reunion and then the beginning of a new season, it all left me quite worn out and sad.

    I equally dislike Melissa and Theresa. Theresa never does anything wrong and Melissa is the perennial victim. Joe Guidice is a big buffoon and Joey Gorga just wants everyone to get along.

    Jacqueline has a full plate this season. Caroline – I’m now putting my hands up in front of my face to ward off the hits I’m going to take on this one – I really like and always have. We are of similar age as are our children. I’ve had to put up with sister issues in the past and didn’t talk to her for years (that’s what happens when you lend family money and they don’t pay it back!). Her children are respectful even though Lauren is not shown in the best light.

    I like Kathy as well and I don’t mind Richie – they both have raised two nice kids. Her extended family – mom and Rosie – seem to be kind as well. Just don’t call names around Rosie or heads will roll!

    I will continue to watch and hope that better things are in store for all involved. Time will tell!

    • plainviewsue says:

      Don’t know if you’re on twitter, but Richie is disgustingly vile on it to women. I was on the attack of his horrific tweets. He tweets, then deletes.

      Kathy’s only storyline is her sister Rosie, who I cannot stomach any longer.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        I’m basing my opinion of Richie on his love of his children and wife. Why he goes off on Twitter is insane, but I don’t Twitter so therefore I don’t see it. Does he say things that make me to “yuck,” yes, he does, but so does my husband! I think I could be friends with Richie and Kathy. I think off-camera (and off Twitter) they are probably very nice and drama-free people. I would also include Rosie with them. She wears her heart on her sleeve and her emotions run wild, but I believe her heart is good.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          Well, your willing to overlook a lot which makes your name really fit you, you are a honey. I on the other hand am a lemon. 🙂 But you put lemon and honey together and it makes for a very healing elixir

          • LaineyLainey says:

            you’re willing, not your willing

            • HuskerHuny says:

              Lainey, you can do no wrong in my eyes – no lemon there! You do have to admit they have raised two nice kids though! Theresa and Melissa are just so over the top annoying, that they make everyone else look better than they may be. Love – love – love!

        • chismosa says:

          Husker I completely agree
          They did not ask viewers to please sign an agreement to follow all things twatter or Facebook when watching these shows so as to follow the plot lines more accurately.

          Magazines ill give them, as they are publicly in stores and such. But I’m not going to be committing to both a tv show, then try to read blogs or aftershows on bravo’s website and also have to commit to social media
          No thanks!

      • Noelle says:

        PVS,
        You know I’m not on twitter, but know all about his twisted tweets.
        Richie Walleye is a creepy-sick – mother FU*^er!!!
        What he’s tweeted to you is beyond vile. (He’s as disgusting as he looks.New teeth is the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig ((Apologies to all the coiled-tailed sweet pigs everywhere))…It’s still a pig!
        xoxo

  10. cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Everyone!

    Thank you NoMoreDrama, MelTheHound and Boston! Loved the Photos! Hysterical! Thank you everyone!

    Congratulations LuLu!!! The baby is adorable and too cute for words! Besos!!!!

    I am aware that Bravo scripts these Reality shows. With tha in mind… I still enjoy watching them!

    In my opinion, in seems these 5th Season of RHONJ will be not much different than the two previous Seasons, I hope these two ladies (Melissa and Teresa) could just learn from Antonia and Milania how life can be simple and fresh.

    This show moves things inside me… memories from my childhood, Italian, Spaniards, Mexicans, we are not different. I remember I used to love my cousin Rosalie with all my heart (Today is her Birthday… Heaven has a party for her) Her mom was my dad’s sister (My aunt is now 88, soon 89 and she is a sunshine!). I ignore until today why my mom did not like her… Kids perceive everything, mom never said anything that I can remember, I just “knew”. I got to know and to open to my aunt until my mother’s passed. I wish I had asked why my mom was on guard when my aunt was around.

    Wonderful and productive day to all of you!!!

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Families have disagreements over the craziest stuff, so it may have been a very small issue that would seem trivial to you. As an example, my grandmother quit talking to her sister because when my mother went to the big city for school, the sister said she hoped the girl didn’t get in trouble in the big city. Apparently my grandmother got all huffy and said she had raised her daughter right, so there would be no problem. The sister pointed out that trouble can come in many forms, but my grandmother was convinced of the perfection of her daughter. My grandmother was so insulted, she broke of communication with her sister forever. I asked my mother once what the problem was and she said that they just didn’t get along. It was not till just a few years ago that a distant cousin told me of this huge argument. We both agreed Aunt Pearl was right and my grandmother was in the wrong. All are deceased now, but what a lot of energy they poured into this silly problem.

  11. Exit4 says:

    Honestly, the only thing u can think to comment on is Teresa’s makeup. Especially on WWHL. She needs to get a new makeup artist. she looks like a shiny drag queen. Season 1 she looked so pretty, now she looks so harsh. She really just needs a new person!

    • missusmc says:

      I don’t know if it’s bad makeup, or stress, or worry about her husband, or what, but I agree. Teresa is looking pretty haggard these days! It makes me think all this drama is real, not just for show, which makes me extra sad.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      In the shopping scene, I was thinking Gia looked like Teresa did in Season 1.

    • chismosa says:

      She needs to wear longer skirts or pants

      Platform heels are also getting kind of 2009. Blech

    • MM in OC says:

      I believe she’s doing too much spray tan. If you do it too often, it’s basically a layer of color on your face. You can’t exfoliate like you would normally do, resulting in a somewhat muddy complexion. I think it’s too dark for her as well.

  12. Obsessed w RH says:

    Is anyone re-capping Princesses of LI? I am very interested in everyone’s opinions!!!

    • missusmc says:

      Ooh, I hope so! I think it’s my new guilty pleasure (I’m admitting this only because of the anonymity of this site!)

      • Obsessed w RH says:

        My sister-in-law is friends with the little one, Ashlee White’s sister so I will be sure to relay any of the scoop. I told her to find out the behind the scenes dirt! Stay tuned! So far, Ashlee and Joey hate each other, evidently they had a huge fight……and so it begins!

    • ramonacoaster says:

      I’m gonna watch it to check out what they are filming around Long Island. So far the Long Island scenes are very pretty. I like that they highlight LI businesses – S22 in Roslyn, spa/ nail salon in Woodbury and Great Shapes.

      • chismosa says:

        Ramona I’m up the block from all their places. I dont know how i missed the cameras. ??? I mentioned yesterday I’m so happy a restaurant here didnt sign over release of their name
        Thank god. It’s a first-rate place.

        I think the insipid munchkin lives in my town She couldn’t look anyone in the eye at the pool party like she was above them (when we know she’s FAR BELOW— hahahaaaa, sorry couldn’t resist, the girl loves to say she’s 3 ft 10)
        What terrible posture

        These girls should be so embarrassed

    • YES I’ll be submitting my recap tonight. We have out of town guests so I’ve been a tour guide. Minneapolis is really not that exciting. BUT I did take her to the Mall of America Saturday. Yesterday was going to be the afternoon I pre-capped Princesses, but my car wouldn’t start so I sat in a parking lot for 2 hours until a very nice man helped me get it started.(long story in that story, not going into it).
      My first impression of the Princesses was they are a classier group than Bad Girls Club. No fist fights, but there was a drink thrown. OY I hope they don’t act like the RHW’s in that regard.

      • plainviewsue says:

        Just finished watching, & I am embarrassed to say that it did hook me in for now! As someone from Long Island, I enjoy seeing the places they go to and the areas they live in.

        Looking forward to reading your recap Diana!!!

  13. TexasTart says:

    Thanks NMD, MTH and Boston for the blog today!
    I didn’t have any expectations – so you didn’t let me down, MTH! 😉 But seriously, I didn’t watch the show and I enjoyed your recap. LOL’ed at Jac’s statement and you saying “I’ll leave you with that thought…” 😆 Good job and next time, like you said, drop the disclaimer and forget about the first look. Seems it would be more time efficient to only recap the show, as the first look is included in the episode.

  14. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Jeff-great job on the blog-I may be saying this just because I agree with everything you wrote but I think you did a fab job

    I know lots of people are upset that the kids are hearing all these terrible things about their family but I’m going to say-THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. I’m not saying ALL kids know everything that goes on in their family but these kids know-b/c of both Teresa and Joe Gorga-they were brought up that way-they knew when grown ups were fighting just like their kids know. We can say things is wrong and awful and how they are all shitty parents but its the reality of the situation. When I was a kid and my mom fought with her sister-who FYI I knew was not a good person by a very young age-all of us kids knew. You almost can’t not know. When parents are hurt by or mad at someone-the kids know. The language they use maybe be horrid to some but it’s not anything that shocks me-I have heard it all before. Grown ups talk and kids listen-I think Melissa and Joe talk as much as Teresa and Joe-it’s wrong but it happens.
    Jac is insane as usual-using Bravo and the HWS as a forum to advance autism awareness is really not appropriate-any show that you are comfortable saying “bleaching my asshole” is not the proper place to say you are helping your kid-find a better place to do this and I would gladly back her 100%-Bravo isn’t the place and the HWS are not the type of people who make me think “awareness” of anything b/c they are ALL the most self absorbed people in the world.
    Caroline and her love affair with Joe Gorga is gross and creepy-she is strange with her love for him. Why is she butting in now-she wants to be in the middle of this hot mess when she has a hot mess of her own to fix-she looks so tired…she should take a nap.
    I love NJ housewives b/c things like…”drownded”.& ” inedible” ….OMG I couldn’t stop laughing!!!
    I even went back to the Bravo site to watch my favorite little gem…THE EGGMIT VIDEO-I will post it for your viewing pleasure….it never gets old!!

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/videos/whats-an-eggmit

    • missusmc says:

      Oh, I know that at Gia’s age, I knew EVERYTHING that was going on with my own family drama. But there is a difference between knowing and having your mom allow you to get involved in a text message conversation and be actively a part of it. That’s the only thing that made me uncomfortable, but I also blame Bravo, because Teresa should have an ally that she can discuss all this with, so she doesn’t have to have her child get involved.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I was just thinking that the kids all know that their parents are fighting-they live near each other yet haven’t seen each other in a year-the kids would have to be wondering what the hell is going on.

        • missusmc says:

          Right. It’s unrealistic to expect them to not have any idea what’s going on, or not to question. And it’s not wrong for the parents to talk about the fight, as long as its done in a respectful way. It can be a learning opportunity.

  15. plainviewsue says:

    MTH, you did a fabulous job on your write up. And how sweet to mention me in the beginning xxxooo!!

    My take. I actually think Teresa looked really good, esp her hair. I do agree on way too much makeup.

    I despise Melissa. After reading her blog which was a continuation of last season, she continues to see herself as the victim and questions why she needs to apologize to Teresa. Teresa’s blog, as well as the other women’s were all positive.

    The scene when Milania (OMG, do I love her!) got the letter from Antonia and was caressing it actually brought tears to my eyes. Milania and Antonia together put the real in reality.

    Both children would be safe in the other’s house. Give me a break Melissa. Your husband called his sister garbage in front of Gia. Your husband is pent up with steroids. Do I think Juicy calling Melissa horsey faced was smart? No. Of course not. Do I think Juicy calling Melissa a skany Beotch was smart? Maybe not. But so true.

    Kathy and her whole family can leave the show. No purpose but to exploit Rosie, who is one dangerous person.

    It was hard to watch little Nicholas. But I loved seeing how supportive CJ was. I have to wonder if it’s good for Nicholas to have all those bright lights in the house all the time.

    Caroline shows once again how she loves men & hates women. JoeGo is now her new pet project.

    Again, great job MTH!! But I agree. No need to recap first looks. Just recapping the episode for us is work enough!!!!

    • Rebecca says:

      I agree 99% with you, however, we have a police report showing that Melissa is not a responsible driver with kids in the car. If I were Teresa, I wouldn’t let her drive my dogs around.

  16. plainviewsue says:

    Oh, forget to thank Boston for her hysterical laugh out loud pictures!!!

  17. Just Wondering in Jersey says:

    I thoroughly enjoyed the recap and photos. Thanks so much.

  18. LaineyLainey says:

    Nice recap MTH. No, you did not imagine it…last season, Jac said she was taking a break from Teresa. But unless she associates with Teresa, she will not get a Bravo paycheck…because unless you are dealing with, talking about, thinking about,…etc…Teresa, you ain’t got nuttin’ to do on this here trainwreck. To Jac: You want a storyline?? (now that you’ve ruined your older daughter’s life); well what do you have left? YOU WILL be a buttinski with Tre, Joe, Mel, and Juicy… otherwise you have no business on this show. Maybe Jac’s plan will work and the exploitation of her child will gain her public sympathy? I think not. But that’s just me.

  19. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Thank you to Jeff and NMD for their blogs. I know there was much trepidation about NJ blogs but so far I feel that the conversation although lively, is very lighthearted.

  20. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Did anyone notice on the Bravo site how they have a ‘pose showdown’ with Milania and Antonia.
    Although I enjoyed the pictures, I can’t say I cared for the premise of them being pitted against each other in competition. .

  21. Thanks to all who blogged (photos too) RHNJ – excellent job!
    After reading the housewives blogs, it seems that Melissa has taken over from Wacky Jacky the role of writing/whining about Teresa. How many times did Melissa use Teresa’s name in her blog?

  22. lillybee says:

    Is Lauren still with Vito or was that a show romance ala Kenya and Walter?

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I believe they are still together-Lauren tweets about hi, and they were just at a wedding together

  23. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    @BrandiGlanville: My boys R VERY loved in both households.When peeps say they feel sorry 4 my kids I want to punch them N the teeth.They R happy lucky&LOVED

    Funny that now she says they are lucky and loved…2 weeks ago she was having heart palpitations b/c she couldn’t get in touch with the kids for an hour while they were in the loving lucky home!!

    • pat says:

      Yeah, I thought that was quite the flip flop, too. 😦

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      The balls on that bitch…really….she goes off on twitter 24/7 about all the co-parenting issues they have but now wants to punch people in the mouth for chiming in.

      Some of the kids on Teen Mom can co-parent with more maturity and acceptance than her, her ex and LR.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      no matter what she tweets, it’s wrong and worthy of criticism it seems. But that’s why she gets the big bucks, Right? However, in my opinion her messages be they positive or negative would be more well-received (and less annoying) if she didn’t add the “feral child” element to her communication. “punch them N the teeth.”???

      me to Brandi: How old are you? and who/what raised you that you’re using such violent language to express yourself? It’s simply unbecoming of any woman to express herself like that.

      She could have easily said the same thing without unnecessarily putting herself in the victim or “I am so unfairly judged” position that she seems to like.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        The victim role is the one she plays best–now it’s her fans she is angry with? It must be since they are the ones who feel sorry for her kids-she is getting some negative feed back about this tweet so I’m sure she will be tweeting that people need to STFU and F off any minute!!

      • princesspindy says:

        Makes me want to kick her ass….lol, was that mean….??

    • plainviewsue says:

      Jill, you know that I have been a huge Brandi supporter, but the dust is beginning to settle on my love affair with her.

      She is another one that needs to get off twitter. Pronto.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        She really would do well if she just took her own advice and STFU!! I think people want her to do well and will continue to cheer for her if she just cuts the sh*t and moves on. Blaming LR is going to be tough to do for the rest of her life-no matter why LR choose to do!!!

        • melthehound says:

          As much as I like Brandi, I have to agree. I thought Twitter had a thing called DM (direct messaging) if she really wants to fight with LeSlime (because she’s a spouse thief, and he’s no better) on twitter. She’s casting a lot of shade on her own image by continuing these twitter wars about the stupidest of shit.

          • Noelle says:

            I have to chime in~
            NO ONE can be a “Spouse Thief.” That in itself is absurd.
            As for the tag-along”…..he’s no better..” Um, ya think?! Duh!!
            He CHOSE to step OUT, so he’s no better then whom???
            Really!?!
            JMO!

            • melthehound says:

              That was the nicest way I could think of to put what I think of them. I have other 4 letter words, one feminine, one not that better describe what I believe they are. In the interest of trying to be civil however, I chose not to use them. Maybe in between, they’re both pigs. How’s that?

    • Catseye says:

      She must be bored and hitting the booze again.

  24. VV says:

    Excellent recap MTH!
    This HWs shows…Just when I thought I was out…They pull me right in 😆 😆
    RHONJ looks like its gonna be more of the same. Timelines were sloppy, you were right Jeff.

    Did anyone catch the Text that Melissa typed prior to Tre replying to her (when she was with Juicy not with Gia) The prior Text from Mel read something like “he is busy” but you could read more if you can freeze the screen. I don’t have DVR. It’s not the text when she was with Gia. It’s the text when Tre was with Joe.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      VV!!!!!! So glad you’re back!!! XXOO

    • plainviewsue says:

      I’ll have to check that out.

    • chismosa says:

      I caught it, mentioned it last night

      It essentially was Terrorisa responding to Mel about what looked like possibly making plans or perhaps Joe not being able to find Ter(ror) to speak to her?

      It showed Teresa making excuses for Joe. I totally caught it.

      • VV says:

        Hmmm … it was the actual context of a “text” you could read on Tre’s phone as she was typing her reply. That’s what I’m talking about. I thought I read the last line that indicated something like “he is busy”. My guess is that it was that gnome husband she has. My guess it was a reply from Mel because it was prior to Tres typing.
        Are we talking about the same thing? 😆

        • chismosa says:

          Yes I think so and I double-checked on my phone since Ter(ror) was so slow at making her synapses fire up on how to respond —-

          The previous text giving excuses (to me it looked that way, so jmho) — was TERESA giving excuses. Likely keeping her Joe Gross on her own brand of leash.

          It was not Melissa’s last text *******

          Melissa reached out with the text of “bring Milania” which in my world, (????) means — YOU come too Teresa
          When my friends with kids say “bring Olivia. Bring Kaitlin” that means MOTHER included.
          But of course, Teresa blows it up wayyyyyy bigger than what it is
          She wants to be the “bigger person”– her new season tag line. You’re just the bigger-legged person Terror

  25. VV says:

    I’m reading bottom to top, so if somebody brought this up sorry but on WWHL last night did anybody get the feeling Milania didn’t like Andy?

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      She was acting a little camera shy-which we know she is not so maybe she doesn’t like Andy…kids are smart!!

      • VV says:

        I got the vibe she wasn’t thrilled to see Andy. Who knows maybe it was too late and she was sleepy but she didn’t even try to hug him back. Kids are smart…

    • Kat From Ohio says:

      i bet she was tired, but i would also bet good money that at the very least juicy joe has talked some MAD shit about andy when cameras haven’t been filming

      • chismosa says:

        Exactly

        …..basically how the GiuGiu girls are forming their opinion on anyone ……..

        • Noelle says:

          Really??
          Leave the kids out of it!!
          As in the “GiuGiu girls”….That’s just downright mean and in no terms of endearment from you!
          Continue bashing Teresa, feel free, have at it.
          NOT COOL to bash kids!!!

  26. Stars99 says:

    Mel – Really GREAT job on the recap… I hope you didn’t throw your keyboard at the TV or anything… You get hazard pay, for sure! I’m going to refrain from any further comments because well… you all hear them soon enough… lol… Have Mel give you a people treat! = )

    Boston – Awesome pics… You totally crack me up… all the time… Hysterical!

  27. Contessa says:

    Mel, I was so looking forward to your recap and you didn’t disappoint. In the words of Tre, love, love, love it! People forget children are small adults, they hear and pick up everything. When my parents were arguing with their friends/relatives, I figured it out a young age. You cannot always protect them, as they know. I disagree with Joe-Tre with the name calling. I also disagree with the issue of the kids playing together, Tre would not hurt her brothers child – no how, no way! I also liked that Tre was letting the children play, while Mel was micromanaging their beading. Let the kids develop their own creativity and applaud same. I hate the family fighting, and it’s all about who hasn’t reached out to the other party. Momsmanzo needs to get a life away from her boys, and stay out of other’s family drama – JMHO.

  28. Rebecca says:

    If I never see any of these husbands on tv again, I would be able to stomach these shows in their entirety.

    Oh that’s a lie – get rid of Kathy and Rosie and Jacqueline STAT.

  29. Lulu says:

    Hello All!!!! Checking in. Aiden is good such a sweet sweet sweet baby! 🙂 Just like my first they don’t start becoming mischievous till much older. I’m going to enjoy this time 🙂

    Great job MTH!!!! LOVE your recaps!!! Agree with everything! look forward to next weeks and thank you for taking one for the team. 😉

    RHNJ:
    Melissa—Quite the attitude “Momz mind your own business?” Wow what a change from last season. On a level I can relate to her she has a SIL that she can’t stand. Her inlaws hate her and she is and forever will be the “bad” guy in their eyes. I do think their is a lot more to this then Bravo is showing us. But like all families their are always issues. I don’t necessarily agree with her or even like the lady. But the I hate my SIL storyline is weak seriously who doesn’t have an inlaw they rather be on different continents with.

    Nick–What I find interesting about him is he must be very low on the spectrum. My nephew is a high functioning Autistic. You can tell by the shape of his forehead as well as the (apologize for lack of a better expression) “lights on no one home expression.” (hate to phrase it in that way but no other way to describe it.) He’s a very bright and loving child. I already despise wacky Jac instead of embrassing her incredible son. She’s trying to find the “snake oil” cure which is disgusting. I literally cringed with how she was demanding him to do the exercise. Didn’t one of his therapist tell her to be more patient???? She so made it much worse then it had to be. I hate that she stressed him out to the point of a tantrum. No reason to be pushy he does understand but he relates it different. Ugh I hope for his sake he has someone who is wonderful to him in his life.

    It will be interesting that’s for sure.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Enjoy baby Aiden!!

      Question, cos I don’t know that much about autism. If you are very low on the spectrum, is that good or bad?

    • missusmc says:

      Hooray for babies! Glad you can still find time to watch the shows you like and get online 🙂

    • As a mom of a 15 year old on the spectrum, it is VERY hard to speculate on the functioning level of a child who is as young as Nicholas is. I would also avoid the phrase “Lights on but nobody home” because many children on the spectrum have a blank stare because their are WAY over stimulated by visual intake. My daughter is a a “visual thinker” which translates to basically all of her memories are gathered as small movies and when she thinks of a person, she can recall a full event. Many times it is hard for our kids to make eye contact because there is just so much to take in when looking at someone’s face! It is easier to glance, “take the picture”, look away and gather information. I agree that Jac is buying into the snake oil…I also tried that 3 years ago with no “cure”. Hopefully, with time, Jac will realize and understand the appropriate therapies necessary for her son to reach his potential…

  30. shamrockblonde says:

    great job on the recap Jeff! – Jaq needs to get off this show – or at least keep her children in the background – we all agree that the show cannot be good for Nicholas, but remember Christopher too – this affects him as well – as for Caroline – she misses her boys – so now she has Joey – someone to fuss over – ick – Teresa and Mel will remain the same – that will. not. change. – and as I alwasy do with these shows, the ones I feel most sorry for are the children –

    p.s. – Jeff – agree that Gia looks and sounds closer to 15 than 11 – T and Joe will have their hands full with that one – hopefully T did NOT buy that blue skirt for her!!!

  31. designernailsdiana says:

    I confess I was one of those who got sucked into NJ and lost it on the blogs. NOT this season!!
    I watch it for what it is. Faux Reality.
    Did anyone else notice the opening scene when Mel and Joey were headed to their shore house the boat in the background was named “Stripper” I’m sure it was. I didn’t get to watch on dvr, but I will tonight I hope.
    I too loved seeing how excited Milania got when she received the letter from Antonia. It’s sad that they keep the kids apart. I feel the real reason Mel didn’t want Antonia to go to Tre’s was exactly what Joe Guidice did when he called Mel “Horsey Face”. The stripper pole comes in later, but where do the kids learn to say this stuff? They parrot what they’ve heard adults around them saying.
    I thought it was funny that both Mel and Tre asked about the beaded sink and it wasn’t at the same time. (Unless it was a clever Bravo edit).
    Do any of the adults on this show have an edit button to self edit their TMI I comments. I’m talking about Lauren saying the things they’ve seen thru the telescope like b.j.’s. Bleaching aside OY could they just stop saying things like that?
    Rosie, some of you dislike her, is very outspoken. I like how she says it like she sees it. She’s a true Jersey girl. Lesbian or not I’d hang out with her, and not stick her for my bar tab. Think of how hard it was for you to meet someone you were compatible with. When you have come out of a closet society has tried locking you in it’s can be daunting. Kudos to her for sharing her own struggle to find honest, open minded other lesbians to even try to create a match with. There are just as many fake, fraudulent and dishonest GLBT people as hetro sexual people. Not one group of people has ownership of deceit. It’s widespread.
    Ok the Rosie love show is over. Her Mom did shake her head though so I found that funny.
    Jury is still out on Caro and Jac for now. I’m not committing one way or another on those two. I did stand up for Caro last season, but holding off on it at the start of this season.
    MTH and NMD THANK YOU for the comments. Boston spot on with the photos!

    • chismosa says:

      Hi Diana, and I agree as to why Melissa would not want her kids at the house where names are being called out in front of them about their own parents.
      Disgusting. I agree with most to all of your comment!
      ###Terrorisa

  32. djprincessc says:

    Chismosa!! Bringing over our convo about Ratchet from last night! Thats sooooo funny, I thought you knew what it meant! Thats why I thought you said you coined it! hahahhaahha. 🙂

    • chismosa says:

      Hey DJ–yes I responded that no I didn’t mean I coined it like I’m Lil Kim. I used the wrong word– I meant I’ve been “referring” to Terrorisa as that so I can’t find myself stopping doing so. Lol!!!

      I’ll be back a little later to chat more ….
      😮 😁😁😁

  33. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I saw a Tweet from Ashley-Jac,s daughter to Patti STANKER last night…guess who will be at the wine event I’m going to Wednesday night??? That’s right ASHLEY!! It’s getting better and better…or worse!!!

    • lillybee says:

      Thank you for taking one for the team.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Well now it’s just too much!!!! I wonder who else they are going to add??? Maybe JZ herself-that would be worth the 50 bucks just to get a chance to snub her!!!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I think it’s cool.

    • chismosa says:

      Jill it’s getting better and better by that minute !!!

      Weather looks good Wednesday. I can’t wait to hear about this event !
      😉😉😉 :mrgreen:

  34. melthehound says:

    Hi everyone.. Sorry I haven’t been here to comment along with you but just wanted to say thank you for all the comments and proving me right. We can all get along even with this crapfest of a ‘reality’ show. It doesn’t take much effort to do so nor to just state your own view without attacking someone else for theirs. Keep up the positivity and perhaps, we can get through this season without any hurt feelings. Thank you all again for your kind comments (and all are welcome).

    Now, the roses are popping so I’m going to go take some pictures.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I love the give and take on this board and it’s done in such a respectful manner. The HWs, their families and how they choose to conduct themselves on national TV is just fodder for this blog. No need to take anyone down for a differing opinion. Now, as for taking a HW or two down, now that’s a different subject . . . haha! Thanks for your efforts Mr. MelDog!

    • Noelle says:

      oops…did you not knock on wood?

  35. It really bothered me to see Kathy and Richie “touring” the devastation on the shore – getting in the way of those who were there to help, just to see a house they rented!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      wannabees

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Yeah, I didn’t get that. It seemed so contrived.

    • chismosa says:

      Just want to say we were out of electricity for days and days and scoured for gasoline every single day.
      We drove around a lot to see other areas. We are in a very tree-filled area so we “toured” a lot. Didnt feel bad doing it because we sufferered just like everyone else

      In fact many around “toured” up and down our block a lot too, I never found it offensive

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Yeah chimosa-we toured around the neighborhood too but this scene was so fake-why drive all the way to the shore when you don’t have a home there-it was for the show I think and that’s annoying!!

        • chismosa says:

          But don’t they all have rented shore houses? How else are they going to show the area?? The jersey shore was if not THE hardest hit, one of the hardest hit areas.
          I’m glad they were able to show viewers who maybe did not realize how bad it was in the area.

          I mean I was in a Hamptons “share” for a few years some time back, never owned there, but I would drive around too

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            I’m glad they showed the devastation to the shore but come on-its Bravo-they didn’t do for any other reason then effect-they could have just showed the 2 homes that Joe and Teresa owned without the other 2 driving around like lost nitwits.

            • plainviewsue says:

              It is because Kathy has NO storyline!!!!! It is so pathetic. Did anyone mention how she called what she said about Teresa’s parents a simple comment??

              When are we ever going to meet Kathy’s brothers?? Supposedly, there’s a lot of story with them.

  36. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:


    This has the list of everyone who will be at the event Wednesday…Jac is coming and so is Kim G
    LORD HELP ME!!!!

  37. Amber...RealWife says:

    Hello All. Great blogs as usual. WTF / WOW / SMH / OMG AND HOLY COW NEW JOISEY IS BACK!!

    Ignored the CaroDramity and found out by Mel that she got a place to be near her boyz. WTF

    Crazy Bitches … Both Melissa & Teresa acting as if they would hurt each other’s kids. WTF x 2

    Pre-tween Gia growing up sporting a Fendi bag and wanting form fitting clothes @ 11. WOW

    Teresa allowing nay using Gia as a sounding board and encouraging her disdain for Melissa… SMH

    Milania & Antonia’s love fest was the realest moment of the episode. OMG how beautiful were they?

    The season tease showed the usual name calling, confrontations, violence and brawls. Holy Cow.

    Biggest peeve of the episode is Tre and the oversharing of her Mel hate and parentalization of Gia. While Gia is definitely ‘grown’ for her age, she still is a child and should be more respectful of her uncle’s wife if only on CAMERA!! How does Tre not think that her brother and SIL won’t get annoyed seeing Gia speak with obvious disdain for her Aunt by marriage in front of Tre and not be reprimanded? . What Tre is doing is such a disservice to her daughter and her future relationships with all adults, peers and younger children. I only hope that if any backlash is received it will force Tre to change her ways and let her child be a child. Yeah. Aiight! It will of course be Melissa’s fault if Gia starts getting ‘bullied’ for her RHONJ role. Big ole Eye Roll.

    • chismosa says:

      Amber totally agree

      I said it yesterday—- and I’m sorry Gia’s a lost cause already. Too late

      DISgusting. That was the grossest part to me. Tre and Gia.
      Shows what a lack of friendships, true bond Terrorisa has with anyone. And to lack the awareness of what you are doing to your child.
      Despicable

      Maybe señora Gorga raised Ter(ror) this way. Who knows

      Agree with EVERYTHING you said ⭐⭐⭐⭐
      😆 😆

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I’m going to say that I bet Joe Gorga has said some nasty things about his sister in front of his kids too-I’m thinking its the way they were raised-he did call his own daughter a cock blocker so I’m lead to believe that none of them know how to filter themselves in front of the kids….doesn’t make it right-just makes it a way of life for some people.

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          Hi JNNTJ If indeed JoeyG has said horrible things about Tre in front of the kids why haven’t we seen the fallout? That would be pure BRAVO gold. The battling kids ‘dissing’ for their parents. Who knows maybe we’ll see TheGorgaKids make disparaging remarks about their ZiaTre. And the HW Nation goes wild…..

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Give it time-if he said anything negative-they will show us…if he didn’t…MY BAD!!!

            • plainviewsue says:

              I am not defending Joe Guidice, but he is unfiltered. Melissa makes sure that Joey is on her tight leash. Just like when she told him to say to Teresa “Shame on you.”

              I still do not believe Joey can read or at least just barely.

              • missusmc says:

                I know it’s wrong, but a small part of me loves Joe Giudice. I think it’s because he knows he’s a pig and he’s okay with it. He owns his grossness. I just love watching him!

              • Noelle says:

                Spot on Mz. Plainviewsue!
                Luv ya friend! xo

          • VV says:

            We know that it takes 85 or 86 hours of footage to put an episode of HWs together. So, Bravo can definitely drive a story any which way they want and they certainly fo. PIGS!

      • Amber...RealWife says:

        Gracias Chismosa!

    • Powell says:

      Amber. ” WTF/ WOW/ SMH/ OMG HOLY COW NEW JOISEY IS BACK!” LOL. 🙂 You are too funny.

  38. I read above that Missusmc took a moment to educate everyone about Autism Spectrum Disorder and I wanted to add my two cents. My daughter is now 15 and has high functioning autism. Depending on the diagnosing physician, Autism Spectrum Disorder is classified as a Mental Disorder or Developmental Disability. It is called a Spectrum Disorder because it encompasses children with very high functioning with only mild social concerns all the way to children who do not speak and can cannot communicate their wants or needs. In many cases this is referred to “low function autism” or severe autism. Presently, there is no known cause or cure for autism. There are many people who believe there is an environmental factor. Some people believe vaccines are to blame. There is a genetic connection to autoimmune disorders.
    With that said, I wanted to share a little of my experience so that others might understand why a parent like myself is watching this “storyline” closely.
    We too attempted many different therapies with our daughter. We tried holistic therapy, heavy metal removal, supplements, etc. Many of these therapies are supported by Jenny McCarthy. While I cannot speak for what these therapies did or did not do for Jenny’s son, I can say that these therapies did nothing to improve my daughter’s autism nor was she cured as was promised by the holistic doctor. I believe many parents, like myself, seek out these so-called cures because we are willing to try anything to “make it go way” and improve our child’s ability to communicate. (I promise, there is nothing harder than watching your five year old cry from pain, but be unable to communicate where they hurt!)
    It wasn’t until our daughter was about 6 that we learned about Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), a form of therapy used with children on the spectrum to improve their skills. Our daughter finally spoke her first sentence after her first appointment with an ABA therapist.
    I relate to Jac’s desire to “cure” her child. The process of accepting that your child has a disability is a VERY long process!
    As a parent of a child with autism, I am glad that there is someone out there showing the realities of caring for a child on the spectrum. However, since I know the challenges first hand and the amount of time and attention a child with autism requires, I would advise Jac and Chris to get themselves off of this show ASAP. They need to focus all their attention on Nicholas and avoid being involved in all the drama that happens on RHONJ.
    Anyway, just my two cents! My heart breaks for Jac and Chris because I know their pain and frustration. I hope this little guy continues to learn and grow!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Thank you and all all of the other Moms for sharing your story with us and giving us insight-all of you Moms on here ROCK !!!!!!

    • missusmc says:

      Oh, the story of us, I was so not trying to insult parents who try everything when I said Jac subscribed to the Jenny McCarthy school of thought. I really hope I didn’t hurt your feelings! I just have heard so many people say that the diets, and the pills, and the holistic treatments just do not work, and research backs that up. What I have learned, as I’m sure you have, too, is that even those who are nonverbal are not necessarily always low functioning, and that every child on the spectrum, every single one, has the ability to learn and love and live a fulfilling life in some way. It may be different than what we all envisioned in the beginning, but still. These kids have the same value as everyone else. My guys are young, still, and nonverbal, but they are learning to communicate in other ways, like Nicholas is. I love hearing stories like yours, because usually, you only hear about very young children with autism. I worry every day about my kiddos, and I feel like those who are older than my boys, like your daughter, are paving the way to creating a more accepting, loving world. I hope someday autism will be more understood and accepted, and these kids can be successful adults and be celebrated for who they are, and not just seen as the sum of their behaviors.

      • I was not for a minute offended! I have strongly disagreed with Jenny McCarthy claiming her son was “cured” of autism. I also find it sad that Jenny only talks about the holistic side of her son’s therapies, but does not talk about the EXTENSIVE 1:1 program she was able to provide for her son. I am a HUGE advocate of ABA and believe it is the only thing that has helped my daughter reach her potential…she is graduating from 8th grade. She has a 3.75 GPA. This little girl who could not form a sentence at the age of 6 can have a conversation! Yes, every day is a struggle, but we celebrate her accomplishments! She is a my miracle. Yes, I still cry…a lot! LOL! But I have learned that my daughter’s potential is limitless!
        When I mentioned low functioning autism, I should have said adults with little to no ability to communicate. Most of our kids have little to no communication skills when they are younger! 🙂
        It is so odd to watch Nicholas in the show because that was my girl…so MANY years ago, that was her! (Just like your boys!) I even find it endearing when I hear a child with echolalia because it has been so long since my daughter has done that! 🙂 Remember, you are you sons’ biggest advocates and you know your boys better than anyone! No matter how many letters a so-called professional has after their name, you are a PhD in your sons! Don’t ever forget it! xoxo!

  39. AZGirl says:

    Thank you NMD and MTH for the recaps. I was on puppy watch and of course Mr.AZGirl was watching Game of Thrones…..grrrrrrrr. Need to have another talk with the man who wanted a dog.
    Thank you TSOLWA for your post above. If we get anything out of the crapfest of a show it is more information on Autism.

    • Donna says:

      Congrats AZGirl, your comment was approved on Teresa’s blog!

    • cocfarm says:

      One of our two pups (now a year and a half old) got injured at the dog park last week resulting in a vet visit and meds. This pup is bad with giving audible cues that she needs to go out. Needless to say, our downton abbey marathon was marred by a puppy clean-up. Lesson learned: anti inflammatories mean the pup has to go out more often! Both hubs and myself took the blame. Poor pups.

  40. cocfarm says:

    Nmd, did you just start watching madmen? Great show. That’s what I watch as well.

    Thanks for the recaps. So sorry to hear Gia is still the only adult without technically being an adult ;-). Hope life treats her well along w the rest of the kids. The actual adults don’t do anything for me.

  41. JustDee says:

    MTH – Thanks for taking one for the team, lol. Great recap!

    Boston – OMG. Caroline as Pennywise has me ROFLMAOPIP!

  42. BB says:

    Does anyone think that baby picture Boston posted could be what Juicy Joe may have looked like as a baby?

  43. Orson says:

    I have a dear friend in Aussieland with 2 daughters on the Autism Spectrum. the 7 year old has high level autism and the 10 year old has Aspergers with a heavy dose of OCD. It’s challenging. She does the PECS thing with her 7 year old that Jaq was doing with Nicolas. The 7 year old goes to public school as does her sister. Those here who are more interested can read her blog: http://www.stuffwiththing.com/

  44. Powell says:

    MTH. TMZ got Farrah Abraham back at home w/her mom celebrsting her 23nd birthday. The cameraman asked her what she will be doing next yr & she said this time next yr she hopes to have her restaurant opened. I have no comment. You go ahead and comment & I’ll agree w/what you say. 🙂

    • melthehound says:

      I’m running out of comments as well.. I have to wonder what she really knows about running a restaurant or any other business when she’s barely worked a day in her life from what we can see (‘leaked’ pornos and MTV shows don’t count). I’m betting that by this time next year, she’s flat broke, again.

  45. princesspindy says:

    So, last night seemed like same old, same old. I did not enjoy Jaq trotting out her son and doing the “Performing Monkey” act….WTF, lights, camera, production people, Jaq, other son, Chris, all in his space and face trying to show off his therapy….UGH, I would have had a f~ing meltdown with that crowd around me!!!!
    And the other red flag I have with Jaq was in her blog when she said if Nicholas says it, he gets it….really??? I was so careful to make sure that I had boundaries and didn’t allow my son to manipulate me….I have seen it very often in “special’ kids, their behavior is different (bad) for the parents than teachers, because they know what they can get away with…..they aren’t stupid….It’s hard to be consistent but it is so necessary….But Jaq gave in to Ashley on everything so I am sure it will be 100x worse with Nick…..
    And Jenny Mcphuckme’s son didn’t even have autism, the moron, she is just an idiot…. ooopss now I KNOW that was mean…lol, but I can’t stand her. And trust me if it was out there I tried it!!!

    There is a story, I will try to find it about a Mom with a special child and she said it was like planning a trip to Italy and all your friends are going to Italy. You go to the airport and get on the plane and you land it Holland…. It is a beautiful place but you had planned on Italy and you are all alone in Holland…. ok, too hard, tears are coming….

    That is all.

    • WELCOME TO HOLLAND by Emily Perl Kingsley.
      c1987 by Emily Perl Kingsley. All rights reserved

      I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with a disability – to try to help people who have not shared that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It’s like this……
      When you’re going to have a baby, it’s like planning a fabulous vacation trip – to Italy. You buy a bunch of guide books and make your wonderful plans. The Coliseum. The Michelangelo David. The gondolas in Venice. You may learn some handy phrases in Italian. It’s all very exciting.
      After months of eager anticipation, the day finally arrives. You pack your bags and off you go. Several hours later, the plane lands. The stewardess comes in and says, “Welcome to Holland.”
      “Holland?!?” you say. “What do you mean Holland?? I signed up for Italy! I’m supposed to be in Italy. All my life I’ve dreamed of going to Italy.”
      But there’s been a change in the flight plan. They’ve landed in Holland and there you must stay.
      The important thing is that they haven’t taken you to a horrible, disgusting, filthy place, full of pestilence, famine and disease. It’s just a different place.
      So you must go out and buy new guide books. And you must learn a whole new language. And you will meet a whole new group of people you would never have met.
      It’s just a different place. It’s slower-paced than Italy, less flashy than Italy. But after you’ve been there for a while and you catch your breath, you look around…. and you begin to notice that Holland has windmills….and Holland has tulips. Holland even has Rembrandts.
      But everyone you know is busy coming and going from Italy… and they’re all bragging about what a wonderful time they had there. And for the rest of your life, you will say “Yes, that’s where I was supposed to go. That’s what I had planned.”
      And the pain of that will never, ever, ever, ever go away… because the loss of that dream is a very very significant loss.
      But… if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn’t get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things … about Holland.

  46. missusmc says:

    I think I love you. That is all 🙂

    • missusmc says:

      That was supposed to be in reply to PrincessPindy…

      • princesspindy says:

        Thank you! My son is going to be 23 at the end of this month….He is the kindest, sweetest, most handsome kid imaginable. AND he is one of the most popular/social kids around. I kept telling him when he went to college nobody would care and he would have lots of friends….it was like a dream come true!!! I also told him that people have a caveman mentality and when they see something different they want to “beat it with a stick”, that always made him laugh, I had no other explanation for why kids AND parents were so mean.

        • Powell says:

          And he loves his little sis. 🙂

        • missusmc says:

          I love hearing about people’s kids going to college and doing great, even if it does make me sad that my boys will someday be older, too. And people seriously CAN just be downright mean. I’ve been told to my face that I was a bad mom for not pursuing a cure for my boys. I’ve been told by the local toy store owner, of all people, that autism needs to stop and that it was the result of ignorance during pregnancy, and that I was ignorant and inappropriate for not pursuing a biomedical path to cure my kids. I was so afraid to share my experiences on this blog, but I’m so glad I did, because everyone has been so supportive! It gives me hope that not everyone thinks my children are a burden, or looks down on me for creating autistic children. It gives me hope that this world may not be hostile to my kids, and that there are actually people out there that will celebrate my children for who they are 🙂

          • LavaLady says:

            Hey miss, I work in a special needs preschool, and I love it and every single child there. Sometimes you have to really look hard to find their light, but it’s there. I am probably the opposite of hostile when I see special needs families out and about. I go out of my way to smile and connect with them. It just makes me happy to do that; to let them know I get it. I have their children only 3 hours a day. Their parents have them forever. And a smile, nod or just simple eye contact can go a long way in making someone’s day.

          • MM in OC says:

            what a jerk!! No more business for that toy store!

            I seem to have a lot of friends with challenged kids (for lack of a better term). One with downs, another kabuki syndrome (look that on up, it’s very rare), and others that have some speech or small learning disabilities. I think we are just so much more cognizent of these conditions. I guess it’s a good thing, but I also wonder what type of burden are we placing on parents to produce perfect children (when we already know that’s impossible).

            Best of luck to you!

  47. boston02127 says:

    Are we watching OC tonight or ignoring it like a monkey on the subway?

    • Powell says:

      boston I haven’t watched last week’s epi yet.

    • princesspindy says:

      HAHA!!!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Who ignores monkeys on the subway?? Where ever did this expression come from??? I never heard that before!!!

      • chismosa says:

        Hahahahaaaaa

        In NYC you ignore people peeing on themselves, flashers, the most disgusting things. You keep your eyes DOWN but so down so as to aggravate the offender more…. You know what I mean

        But a monkey, id never ignore
        🐒🐵 😀

  48. Donna says:

    Thank you everyone from the bottom of my heart for sharing and educatiing us on Autism. I now have much more awareness of the differant spectrums.

    I was dreading reading blogs and comments on New Jersey because of the producer/cast driven spectacle last season. I commend everyone for the respect shown to each other when they have a differance of opinion.

    Last but not least a hug a thank you to the ones taking the time out in their lives to give us something to debate after reading their blogs

  49. Powell says:

    Has anyone been watching the New comedy The Goodwin Games? Bo Bridges is the dad that died and left a $10 mill estate. He has 3 kids. He left a video Will. Each week he reveals a new task his kids have to complete. I believe he wants them to think just one of them will get the money but I believe its a test to see if they can work together & be true brothers & sister and they will all inherit the money. It’s pretty good.

  50. boston02127 says:

    If anyone gets the commercial for Hallmark Health Care in your area, the little girl with the red hair is my cousin. (avery) She’s on the table where the doctor is holding the stethoscope to her. She’s on a billboard too.

  51. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    @BrandiGlanville: @fireandicelv um mind ur fucking business and know that everything i do is for my kids. Get off twitter and worry about ur own life.

    Now that’s just funny!
    Brandi’s “fans” don’t know whether to sh*t or go blind now that she is telling everyone to stop talking about her kids…the “fans” seem to think she is talking to LR but she isn’t SHE IS TALKING TO THEM….they are all saying “we love you and the boys and we were just trying to help”….help what????

    Ok I’m done with the Brandi posts….but this one I couldn’t pass up!!!

  52. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Do I have a comment in moderation? Did I not hit “post”??? If its in moderation it’s Brandi’s fault for cursing at her “fans”….sharing her tweets is dangerous!!!!

  53. NJBev says:

    Good Evening…………..
    I would like to say that I genuinely enjoyed the
    entire blog today.
    NMD- you wrote with such a level of sound maturity
    that it could have been written by “Momz” during the
    first season when everyone believed her words were
    from a higher power (you had to watch the show in real
    time during it’s first airing to know what I mean, lol)
    It really resonated with me. Thank you for this-
    Mel-what can I say? You know how much I love your
    writing. What surprised me was how much I actually
    agreed with you! HA! ON The RHONJ! I’m still
    shaking my head, I can’t get over it……… lol
    Boston cracks me up every time she writes down her
    words. (wanna hear something funny? I had to really think
    about it before I “got” the windex joke w/ JoeyG-)
    -go ahead —- go back and look- I’ll still be here when you
    get back, you know you wanna see what I mean!!
    (totally stole that from Mel)
    I also want to thank those who shared their knowledge
    and wisdom regarding the Autism spectrum. I learn
    so much from the people here. Thank you, 😉

    • melthehound says:

      Hello, NJBev… Miracles Do exist 😀 I’m sure we’ll disagree at some point but I promise to keep it civil and remember my own words.

  54. Orson says:

    I’ve been asked to invite folks to the chatroom tomorrow night. Queenie suggested 9 pm eastern, but I suggested 10 pm eastern might be easier for the left coasters. Either way, be there, or be a 4 equal sided rectangular thing.

  55. Noelle says:

    Great recap J.
    Good job.

  56. ana612 says:

    I feel the need to correct two things that were written in the recap about the birthday gift Antonia received and subsequent comments. First, the gift was an iPod, which although out of my price range is considerably less expensive than an iPhone, not to mention a far more appropriate gift.
    The second thing would be Melissa’s comment about Teresa being Aunt of the Year. The recap reads “Melissa says that the way to be a good aunt is not to buy expensive gifts but to apologize to the mother (her).” But what Melissa actually said is, “Buying expensive gifts for your niece is not going make you the Aunt of the Year, stop talking about their Mom and that’ll make you the Aunt of the Year.”
    I think it changes the statement in a major way, so I felt the need to note it. I agree it would be an obnoxious thing for her to say about the apology but I think Melissa has a right to protect her children from hearing bad things about their mother from a Giudice, be it a child or an adult. We’ve seen in the previews one of Teresa’s children (Milania?) jumps up on a pole in a party bus and say’s supposedly says ” I’m Melissa… I’m going on the pole.” Personally, I would not want my children to hear things like that about me and Melissa knows that the Giudice girls hear things like that way too much. Case in point, Joe’s “Horsey face” comment to Milania on her way to the play date. I’m not sure if he was speaking about Antonia or Melissa and I sure don’t care a bit if he was joking as Teresa said. To a child it doesn’t matter and you can be sure at some point they will repeat what they hear.
    Oh that Juicy makes me angry!

    • melthehound says:

      Thank you for the correction on the ‘gift’.. I don’t have a clue of what any of this *i* stuff is.. As for word for word what anyone says, I don’t do verbatim recaps. Never have, never will but, I think I got the spirit of the aunt thing. People of course are always free to fill in blanks. As for Milania on the pole, I’m playing wait and see with that one to see what Really happened. I don’t trust Bravo’s preview edits for a single second. Juicy, I’ve never particularly cared for him because of the way he talks to his wife. In reality, I think Teresa and Joey want to mend fences but their spouses are the ones really standing in the way of that “horsey face”..

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Joe Guidice, as others have pointed out, has no filter. Nor does he care how he comes off on this show. Which to me, makes him more honest. Not that I’m saying I love Joe Guidice, but what you see is what you get as opposed to Joey Gorga who does care how he’s perceived by the public; JGorga won’t always show his true colors. Remember…”tell her shame on you.” Joe Guidice would never repeat what Tre told him to say, he would tell her, FU and also after he (Joey Gorga) and his sister went to the therapist he was all Mr. Cooperation in the doc’s office(on camera), but then out in the entrance afterward when they didn’t realize they were on camera, he was being a jerk to his sister. Horrible tone of voice. i.e. What we see on camera – the crying, the wring of the hands, head in his hands, is not the real man. For all his faults, Joe Guidice seems pretty much true on camera. Not saying it’s a pleasant truth, but at least it’s the truth.

  57. LaineyLainey says:

    I shan’t. “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth….” On Bravo, someone is sure to be weeping and gnashing their teeth on any given day at any given moment. LOL!!!

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