Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E2 – A Manzo Of Her Word

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Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E2 – A Manzo Of Her Word

Hello again folks. Welcome back for episode 2 of season 5…… I like to call it, the crapfest continues. That’s what I think of all these shows in the last year or so. Welcome back to returning posters and hello to any new ones. Let’s get to this, shall we?

Let me get this out of the way first. I am not touching, in these recaps, any of the Autism stuff anymore. I don’t honestly know anything about it and don’t expect to learn about it from a Bravo housewives show. I’ll watch, as you do, but since I’ve never dealt with an autistic before, I don’t feel it right for me to make any assumptions. It is obvious to me that each is different in their level of functionality so this isn’t a one size fits all discussion. I will talk about Jac and Chris in their personal discussions with others and each other about it in general but, when it comes to Nicolas other than stating I see a normal looking 3 year old reacting to a situation, what is going on with that kid is sacred ground as far as I’m concerned and I don’t think it belongs on this show. Not when the show isn’t About, living and working with an autistic child. A documentary or something like that on the subject, to actually raise awareness, I could accept but not from these trash heap Bravo shows. Further, from looking at last night’s comments, this is a very touchy subject and since I know very little about it, again, I’m simply not going to spend more time on it in these recaps (but reserve the right to comment in the comments). I don’t want to be this way but if all of that is a problem for anyone then I’ll let them recap those parts of the shows. I respect all of you who are going through all this because my only real understanding of it, is it never ends. That said, let’s really get to the show.

We start off in Teresa’s kitchen where she is serving the girls dinner/lunch whatever. Milania is ‘helping to cook’ and Gia has a conniption about it, warning her about splashing oil and when Milania gets burned, She is going to laugh so hard. Milania shoots back with basically a STFU. The four girls appear to be bickering back and fourth about stuff (for the cameras) and Teresa has about had it. She begins explaining to the girls that their grandfather wouldn’t like it. In fact, when SHE was a kid,, no one even got up from the table til everyone was done eating. You know, one of those walked 5 miles to school stories. All the while, Milania is mocking her mother. It was funny to watch but I know if I had tried that, there would have been some severe punishment. Even 3 yo Audriana is talking back to her mother a little bit (mugging for the cameras). I’ll just leave it at that. Poppa Gorga isn’t doing so well and he needs a pacemaker so Teresa has the girls make cards for him. Gia asks what a pacemaker is and as Teresa is explaining it, she says, “…. God forbid… “, Milania pipes in with “He Dies”. That shut the entire room up. Gia tells her never to say that again. TH Teresa says that dealing with all this would be simpler if she and her brother were on speaking terms but they are not. I enjoy watching these kids but I’m beginning to agree with those of you who say, having them on the show so much, not a good idea. Oh, TH Teresa also brought up the fact that the play date didn’t go very well and since Joey sleeps with Melissa every night, what she says goes so, not much hope at this point of T and Joey reconciling any time soon.

Let’s visit the Gorgas for a moment. Their real estate agent also visits them. I don’t really know what this was all about other than fodder for the show. It was a bullshit filler scene as far as I’m concerned. They want to know (from the agent) why people aren’t lined up to take that white elephant of a house off of their hands. After all, it’s only 3.6 mil when a few years ago, it would have been snapped right up at 6 mil. The Gorgas are still on this kick that they don’t want their precious babies going to school with Teresa’s little devils so the have to sell and move. (Just get another HW on the show and rent the house to her so she can pretend she’s a ritzy titzy bitch too. Problem solved).. Here is what I think.. They are underwater in their mortgage, taxes, and other expenses that they have to sell the house. Didn’t Poppa Gorga sell his house or let Joey sell it (or mortgage it) so this monstrosity could be built? Seems like I read that somewhere on one of these blogs (Famewhorgas?).. Anyway, the agent (correctly) tells them that the number of people with that kind of spare change laying around (and who actually watch their money), aren’t as many as a few years ago and no one is going to pay their price. Gorgas can’t accept that of course and tell him to get it done.

I’m going to stick with this house sale theme for a moment. Next to Milania mocking her mother, this had to be the best scene in the show. For me anyway. Later in the week or maybe even the next day, Jerry the real estate agent shows up with a ‘pre-qualified’ potential buyer couple. Gorgas let him take the couple through the house. Meanwhile, the boys, (kids, Joey and Gino) are wrestling on the couch.. See, MeGo thinks that makes a place seem more attractive to have two kids fighting it out on the couch while a potential (made for TV) buyer is showing the house (Any house I ever looked at, the owner wasn’t supposed to be there at all. I know there are a few agents here, maybe one can verify that for me). A little later, we meet Teresa’s friend, Jenn, who also just happens to be a real estate agent and She has a client (at the same time the others are in the house) to show the house to. I didn’t catch her name, the client, but supposedly, she’s a makeup artist or stylist to the stars. The Gorgas invite them to tour the house on their own. MeGo says it doesn’t matter whose friend it is, if she can dump that joint for the 3.8mil asking price, fine with her.

As Jenn and her client are touring the house, there are things the client doesn’t like. The keyhole windows for instance (I agree, Tacky). They walk into the bathroom, I assume connected to the master bedroom, attempt to turn on the water in the sink and the handle comes off of the faucet. They also note that the ‘marble’ counter top is not real marble but some sort of veneer on wood.. They note the fakery that surrounds them and ask (not sure who asked) what else in the house is fake (or something like that)… In what I see as the most brilliant piece of editing EVER on this show, the scene cuts to Melissa standing in the livingroom. ….. I don’t even care if she wasn’t even in the house at the time and they spliced her in from some other footage. B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.

Go ahead, Laugh… I did, through the rest of the episode.

We’ve or some of us have thought all along that MeGo always gets the favorable edit as if they don’t see how fake she is. I guess we were wrong. Anyway, Jenn sits down with the Gorgas and notes the cracks in the walls they found, how they noticed the fake bathroom sink top, the broken faucet, and Joey comes up with this piece of wisdom… She’s buying a 3.8 million dollar house, she has the money, she can buy a new faucet. Oh yes, I failed to mention. Not only is he an Angel from God but now when it comes to building homes, he’s Michelangelo of home construction. It’s nice that he’s so proud of himself.

Next we visit the Manzo home.. Not the apartment in Hoboken but their normal house. The dogs are having a fit about something but it’s okay, they are in a cage. I suspect they are barking at the female Manzoid, Lauren. Big Al is there and Momz walks in with a couple cups of coffee for her, and Al. 24 year old Lauren, sitting there on her re-expanding ass, complains that there isn’t one for her. Momz should have known that Lauren would want some too. Momz says that since she’s lost the weight, she’s been a so and so bitch. This is what she says to Al. The Shepards (caged) are still having a fit when Momz’s sister walks in with Frito.. A chihuahua looking dog with three teeth and apparently smells like Fritos. Al wants to know how long this creature has been living in his house. I assume he meant the dog. 2 months. He doesn’t spend much time at home if he’s never seen (or heard) this dog. Sister leaves, sniffing her frito dog, hopefully to give him a bath, and Caroline drops the bomb that she’s going to reach out to Teresa. Remember the play date that Momz had with Joey last week? Well, she calls it a meeting and she’s going to invite Teresa to have a sit down. Whoever coined the name ‘Don Caro’ for her, nailed it. She’s convinced herself that Joey wants her to talk to his sister to smooth things over. That isn’t the way I heard it, she volunteered. The producers of this show don’t even try anymore to hide the fact that it’s scripted. Such BS. Anyway, Al tells her to expect to be told to go to hell, in so many words but, she has to try even though she said she was out of it again. We will come back to this a little later.

Kill me now, it’s a Wakili scene. Apparently it’s time for Joseph (17) to learn how to drive. Richie is a douchbag and is a bigger kid than his son so it is on Kathy to teach the kid to drive. He doesn’t want to  teach the kid but he’s happy to sit in the back seat and comment about it. During the driving lesson, the kid runs a stop sign and nearly sideswipes a pickup truck while changing lanes. I’m glad I’m in Michigan and he’s in New Jersey. Joseph want to drive the Ferrari (?) but he has to learn to drive a stick shift first. Richie doesn’t miss the opportunity to tell him about shifting gears, getting to 4th, which puts the hand right at the young girl’s knee. Seems he’s also teaching his son what a chick magnet that car is… We cut from there to the school that Victoria is in to become a nurse practitioner (isn’t that a Practical Nurse?). Rich is ogling the late teen girls. Victoria wants to crawl under a rock, Kathy is fed up with his behavior (not all in the same scene but you get the picture). Victoria takes them on a tour and Richie, the young child he is, cannot keep his hands off of all the toys, further embarrassing his daughter. This is the same guy, who when she had a date (homecoming or prom or something like that) took the opportunity to have a talk with her suitor while cracking walnuts. So, it’s okay for his son to go after the chicas with the hot car but not okay for some other to come after his daughter. I’m sure that’s how it works in every family. Enough of these people. If this is all they have to offer, cut their footage in editing, give them their paycheck, and let them go away.

There was some TMI footage with Joey and ChrisL, about their sex lives. I don’t care to know this information, it was made for Bravo trash TV and I’m sure they had hours of other footage that could have been used in it’s place. Do any of you honestly care if or how either of these two gets it on? How often and whether enhancement drugs are involved? Didn’t think so. Meanwhile, Jacqueline is doing a vlog interview for Parenthood magazine on raising an autistic son as well as learning that he was autistic. I said earlier I wasn’t going to comment too much on this, if at all. In truth, I don’t know what they are really going through, I’m sure they are trying, I just wish they weren’t doing it on this show. By the way, that has nothing to do with hating Jac. I am certain she will give us plenty of reason to do so.

How about a poker game… Seems like these use to be just the men, sitting around talking shit, smoking cigars, drinking liquor and just some general guy bonding. Call it whatever you like but it does happen. This time however, they’ve invited Rosie. It wasn’t part of the main scene but one of those 60 second teasers they put in to make us think the 10 minute commercial break is over. For some reason, they feel it proper to ask Rosie, if either she or a partner does or would use, a strap-on. I hope I don’t have to describe that to any of you ladies. Google it if so.. It comes down to Rosie saying no, not going to happen, if she wanted that, she’d be with a dude (’nuff said?). We get some more discussion about the Chris, Jac, and Nicolas dynamic. I’m going to stop that part here.

Somewhere around this time in the show, Teresa and Kim D are walking out of some place, Teresa in her workout clothes, going back to their cars. I don’t think they actually worked out but this is another of those set up scenes by the production company. Teresa gets a call or text from Momz about this sit down (Why is everything with these people a meeting or a sit down? I think they’ve all been watching too much Godfather and Goodfellas and Sopranos). Teresa and KimD discuss for a moment if Teresa should accept the meeting. At the end of it, she decides to (Did KimD put on weight? I think everyone has on this show).

Let’s continue this line of the show… Teresa, in another TMI scene walks into JoeT’s office (I assume in their home) where he is going over some paperwork. She tells him of this sit down invite and he gives her some sage advice to cover her ass when it comes to Momz (essentially)… Then, out of the blue it seems, you can fill in whatever blank I missed here, but Teresa begins talking about the idea of women using their ‘flow’ to entrap men in the old days (is this another one of those Italian things?)… Offering them a glass of wine with a little something extra in it and she thinks that is perhaps how MeGo cast her spell on little Joey. I’m sure I screwed that all up somehow but I don’t care to watch it again to get it completely right. I probably shouldn’t have mentioned it but I did to demonstrate that I’m not just all about excusing Teresa at every turn. I’m not.. She says some pretty phucked up shit and I’m willing to call her on it.

Next we see Lauren in her closet or something playing with makeup… In walks Momz to get her face done. She tells her daughter where she’s going and who she is meeting with. Lauren hates Teresa for being brutally honest with her about weight loss methods. That disgusting pig, Lauren, starts talking about how pure and great the Gorga kids are while the Giudice kids are the devil’s spawn, in so many words. —– BITCH, I HOPE, when you squeeze one out, if some dumbass ever marries you or knocks you up, you are still on this show so we can talk shit about YOUR kids —– She has officially passed Melisssa on the scum scale for me. By the way, she does this as she turns her mother into a clown.

Okay.. Let’s get to this sit down.. It takes place at a tavern. You may notice I’m not naming these places. I do that on purpose. No free advertising here. They want ad placement, they can pay NMD for it. Momz arrives first. It’s afternoon and it is a tavern so I guess I shouldn’t be shocked there doesn’t appear to be another soul in this place with the exception of the hostess. The hostess escorts Momz up the stairs.. Why? No idea… Then Teresa arrives. I guess this is the first time they’ve seen each other since the S4 reunion. They do the pleasantries and the lecture begins. You see, Momz has ‘written’ an advice book (that got panned months before it was even released) as she feels it’s her place to give advice, even though she says she wants no part of the drama, especially Teresa’s drama. She told us in TH that she and the others always had Teresa’s back and they always liked her but this isn’t that Teresa.. This is the same Momz who told Andy, and therefore us, that she never did consider Teresa a friend. Got that? Pick which side of your mouth you’re going to talk out of Momz. She tells T that Joey asked Her to reach out to Teresa.. Liar Liar Pants On Fire (again).. This woman has stuck her nose, again, where it doesn’t belong. Further, if she’s such an expert on mending fences, then why is there still a wall between her and Dina? This is something Teresa astutely brought up. Momz asks T how she can possibly be friends with KimD after what happened… T says she did nothing to me. Which is true unless you consider the fact that she did use T to get at Melissa (I still don’t think it was the other way around). Teresa asks how her brother can forgive Jac for what She has done to Teresa… Fact is, his entire time on this show, TheAngelFromGodMichelangelo has sided with everyone against his sister. Him and his troll of a wife. Anyway, naturally, Momz takes the side of her sister in law on this one. No surprise there. Teresa tells her that it’s nice of her to want to help but it’s really none of her business, she has no idea what’s going on. This meeting and the episode ends with Teresa agreeing to meet with her brother and letting Momz (who she just told to butt out) deliver the message.

That’s it folks. I’m tired, I’ll let you fill in the blanks. Til next time, Peace.. MTH.

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527 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E2 – A Manzo Of Her Word

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning every. Hope you had a great weekend. It’s Monday & raining. Ugh. Have a great day.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Good morning Powell…rainy Mondays are the worst!!! It’s going to be rainy all day here-flash flooding and all that fun stuff…good day to get my chores done!!!

    • BB says:

      Good morning Powell. It’s sunny and already 81 degrees and very muggy here. We closed the windows and turned on the AC.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hi Powellypooh!! Its beautiful and sunny here. I can’t wait to read the blog…it looks juicy!!! Who wrote it? MTH, NMD? I was looking for a byline. sometimes I don’t always see what’s right in front me. Have a great day and try to stay dry. 🙂

    • lillybee says:

      George is in the mail

  2. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Jeff-great job on the blog!! I totally respect the decision to not touch on the autism stuff but I think adding your opinion about Jac bringing this on the show is quite fair. She made a decision-a bad one in my opinion-to put this on TV so I feel very free to judge that decision!! I’m uneducated when it comes to autism as it has not touched my life directly and I appreciate all the Moms here that give us insight into their lives-I will learn from them-not from a “real Housewife” who is clearly(in my opinion) looking for a few more minutes of fame. So not the place for such serious subject matter!!
    On another note-WTF did Richie say that has everyone up in arms? I missed it I guess but I was doing some other things while trying to watch!!
    The scene with Rosie and the guys was so stupid-I mean are these people serious with asking her those questions? I shouldn’t be surprised!! No class whatsoever!! And the fact that Rosie goes along with this crap is sad-but she wants her 15 minutes too I suppose!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Oh, you just answered my question about who wrote the blog. I see now that he (MTH) signed off at the end, I was looking for a byline. Silly me. The “up in arms” you speak of re: Richie? I just said he wasn’t nice…my arms are down right here by my side…but anyway i said he wasn’t nice because he made a comment insinuating that his daughters little friends are fat. they were talking about the meal plan at school and he said “yeah I can see they’ve been taking advantage of that meal plan”…I shouldn’t have put that in quotes, but I am loosely quoting…it was something like that. Granted, It’s not horrible, no need for an official up in arms move, but it’s just kinda mean to say that about those young ladies who didn’t do anything to him, and I think they were his daughter’s friends. daz all….

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        When I said up in arms-I wasn’t specifically talking about you or the posters here-Twitter is in a full uproar with Richie!! He is getting it left and right!! So put your arms down LaineyLove-don’t get up in arm over my up in arms comment!!(totally teasing you) And BTW-how rude of Richie to say that about the girls!! He is a weenie!!!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I weenied that you might say that about my arms…so I wore extra deodorant today. I WAS! I was!!! getting all up in arms because of your up in arms comment. no, not really. But I am really trying to make “weenie” happen. I think it might be happenin

        • mrs peabody says:

          I thought he was rude for saying that, wonder how those girls felt about him basically calling them fat on tv for the whole bravo world to see. Must make his daughter feel just great to have a creepy dad who calls her classmates fat on tv. Why was he even looking at those young girls to begin with is my question. He’s a dirty old man. A dirty old creepy man. Introduce him to George, that are 2 of a pair.

          • Just Wondering in Jersey says:

            I got the impression even his wife is disgusted with his antics. Divorce announcement soon?

            • windycitywondering2 says:

              Kind of gives some credence to Teresa saying at the reunion there was discussion of a divorce… Kathy protested way too much and even resorted to calling Teresa’s mom a f ing liar and her father a coward.

    • plainviewsue says:

      I have to agree. Thumbs up Jeff!! Fabulous job.

      Jill, Richie said so many inappropriate things, but the worst was basically calling Victoria’s friends overweight by implying that the sure do use the college’s meal card.

      They are in a catholic college and everything out of his mouth is f’ng this and f’ng that. He is such an embarrassment. There are just no words.

    • melthehound says:

      Hi, Jill… The main reason I don’t want to touch the actual autism stuff is as I stated, I know nothing about it in reality. I think I’m correct in saying that it isn’t a one size fits all situation so even what little I think I know (enough to be dangerous to someone who knows nothing), may not fit with Nicolas. I just don’t want to make those assumptions and judge what they are actually doing for him (putting him on TV aside, I’ll talk about that all day long).. You all know that when I write recaps, I can’t always keep my opinions to myself so that’s why I choose not to put it in the official recaps anymore but, reserve the right to comment on it here. That does not mean I won’t comment on his parents, I am sure they will give me plenty of material this season. For the record, what *I* saw was a half awake 3yo, who I’m surprised wasn’t screaming, saying words he had been trained to say with a lollipop as the reward. Those who say he has to start somewhere are correct. Is it the right thing for Nicolas? I don’t think any of us really knows.

      As for Richie, he’s just a pig and continues to prove it.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Jeff-I’m learning how one size fits all autism is not!! Although I’m kind of getting the feeling that its not so much Nick we are all divided on-its his mother. In the end I think we all want children to be children and not see ANY of them involved in their parent quest for fame-that’s my feeling anyway.

        • melthehound says:

          100% agree.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            It’s nice getting back together with all my old friends!! BH was rough but I’m in agreement with the majority on NJ and OC…weird how that happens!!!!

            • chismosa says:

              Youre very lucky Jill ! I wish I was there
              😦

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                Lucky…YES!!! It makes things much easier when I’m snarking about the same people as the majority …snarking about Brandi was exhausting….well not really but it was kind of lonely-I did have some help from a few of my friends here-just like you do now with you Teresa snark!!! Anyway-it doesn’t matter to me because you and I can chat about anything-we are not limited to these trash box hookers!!!❤😉

            • melthehound says:

              😀 .

  3. Rebecca says:

    This was one of the quintessential shows where Teresa gets support because her castmates show themselves as truly evil. The dumbass Gorgas (and yes I am saying that because an occasional builder is the LAST person who knows the value of a house, and having kids in a house during viewings is S.T.U.P.I.D. It only means you do not want to sell the house) go into the spiel about needing to get their kids away from the Guidices and that because Jenn knows Teresa but Melissa “won’t hold it against her.” Evil. STFU.

    There is no real reason for Melissa and Teresa to be best friends. Teresa and Joe are the siblings and he needs to get his sack out of her fake Gucci and spend time with his sister. Melissa doesn’t need to be there. It happens all the time.

    Lauren’s big fat hateful mouth is how we see her. “Raised by wolves?” STFU. We see proof that Mama Manzo is a horrible mother because Lauren is the result of her mothering skills. She’s dumb and lazy and nasty. Gia has accomplished more in her 11 years than Lauren ever will. Now go sit in a dark room and STFU.

    Joey didn’t ask Caroline to talk to Teresa. Caroline purposely inserted herself into this storyline because she has none. She ask Joey to coffee and she told him she would speak to Teresa on his behalf. Let’s keep reinforcing the cavenman’s behavior, shall we? STFU.

    Horrible – worth fighting the producer scenes: Wakiles (ick, just ICK), Joey and Chris nauseating us with their sex talk (ICK) and Teresa and Juicy (keep him OFF my screen) talking about “flows” (holy shit what an ICK).

    • cusi77 says:

      Oh, Rebecca you are so right! How many ICK scenes we had last night! “Raised by wolves”… and look at Gia much more accomplished than Lazy Laurent! Kudos to that!

      Good Morning NMD and Everyone!

      Great recap MTH!!! Thank you for taking the time to Blog for us!

      • melthehound says:

        You’re welcome, Cusi.. My pleasure.. Most of the time 😉

      • Rebecca says:

        Aren’t you glad I left off the strap-on conversation ick?

        HA HA, now you have to stop yourself from cringing every time it pops into your head.

    • melthehound says:

      That’s a lot of ICKs and STFUs – and I agree with them 😆

      • Rebecca says:

        Thank you for taking one for the team. Last night is one of those episodes I never want to see again.

  4. missusmc says:

    Here’s my prediction: the Wakiles announce their divorce once the boy goes off to college or moves out of the house (I zone out when they’re on screen. I honestly can’t think of the son’s name! Is it another Joe/Joey?) I think Kathy’s just tolerating Richie for now.

    Also, I may be in the minority in that I still like Caroline, but I really, really wanted Caroline and Teresa to make up last night. And then they can go back to Atlantic City like in Season One and everything can be light and fun again. Wishful thinking, I know. Also, who’s working with Teresa and Joe this season? They are both so articulate and coherent! I know that sounds condescending, but seriously. Joe was the voice of reason when talking to Teresa about meeting with Caroline, and Teresa held her own against Caroline. I was impressed! But after seeing Teresa not be able to think on her feet against Andy Cohen for the WWHL special, I wonder if someone helped her prep prior to meeting Caroline?

    • Rebecca says:

      Or she had a script?

      • missusmc says:

        You mean this isn’t 100% reality? I’m shocked!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I agree about Teresa-last night her convo with Caroline was very different than most of her convos!! She said what she needed to say without being childish and insulting…well except for the bottom of the barrel and you look pretty good zingers!! I love how she kept talking about Caroline’s own problems-with each thing Caroline said about Teresa and Joe Gorga, Teresa came back with “I want the same for you and Dina”. Caroline looked like she wanted to tell Teresa to mind her own business but that would have been kind of silly-being that Caroline was trying to stick her nose right in Teresa’s business!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            IKR???!!!

            • Rebecca says:

              And she goes home and says, “oh that Teresa is exhausting. I got nowhere with her. She wouldn’t listen. She just kept repeating that her and Joey’s situation is just like mine and Dina’s….”

          • plainviewsue says:

            Caroline was not prepared for an “articulate” Teresa. She even said last season in one of her Talking Heads that she likes when she can take advantage of Teresa not grasping things.

            But Teresa was right there. She was absolutely right about Jacqueline, & how dare Caro say take her out of the equation. Caroline didn’t expect that. Teresa is absolutely correct. To hear Caroline say Jacqueline has done nothing to you except be a loyal friend, I nearly fell of the couch.

    • Boobah says:

      missusmc, I’m with ya. I still like Caroline. She appears to be the ‘preachy’ type, but for some reason I don’t mind it. I don’t think it’s a big deal that she has sibling issues. It’s not uncommon. She continues to say that she and Dina will be okay – which I really like hearing because that shows that she is level headed about it. She could make it a huge dramatic issue, but she doesn’t. She seems to accept it for what it is at the moment.

      I also agree with you in that I wish *all* these HW shows would go back to way they were in their first seasons. It was lighter and more enjoyable to watch.

    • missusmc says:

      Also, I would like to add, that when the Wakiles do divorce, just like everything else about them, it will be the most boring divorce in history, and no one will care or notice.

    • chismosa says:

      You’re right about Ter(rorisa)— she’s got full on teams working on her.
      I’m glad it’s becoming so ###obvious

  5. BB says:

    Hey Jeff. Great recap. Glad I can find out what a happened without actually having to watch the show. Don’t know if you were serious with your question about nurse practitioner/practical nurse, but there is a big difference. Practical nurses provide basic nursing care; nurse practitioners do much more. Lots more education needed to be a nurse practitioner than a practical nurse. I have a friend who just completed her requirements for nurse practitioner. She’s a smart person and it was grueling. I rarely saw her because she was always studying. Nurse practitioners choose a specialty area of medicine, just like doctors. When I go for my yearly checkup, I see a nurse practitioner. She diagnoses and prescribes, just like my doctor. Maybe if/when Victoria gets her nurse practitioner license, she can diagnose what’s wrong with her dad and refer him to a therapist.

    • AZGirl says:

      Yep my annual check up is with the Nurse Practitioner. When I was going through menopause she was the only one that would listen to me. Got me on small dose of hormones and all is good. My regular doctor kept saying I was too young (no period for a year?). Love my Nurse Practitioner.

      • designernailsdiana says:

        NP is who diagnosed my fibromyalgia. They spend more time with me than my regular physician. I am preferring the NP now.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          MY “DOCTOR” is a nurse practitioner…and as Bev says, she spends way more time with me than the doctor who employs her. Our NP has been taking care of me and my daughter for many years. She has really helped keep my pre-diabetes in check and started treatment early because of my family history and thus far I am neuropathy free and symptom free…of course she’s been riding me about losing weight since forever ago. But she really listens to us. and BB, I love your last sentence… LOL!!!

          • MeinTN says:

            I’m a nurse practitioner and I was going to explain the difference to Jeff but you ladies did a great job! Thank you! Also autism is a spectrum that can range from severely, profoundly disabled to just being considered “quirky” in layman’s terms. I think Jeff made the right decision in not touching that.

    • melthehound says:

      Actually, BB, yes, I was serious about the question. Thank you for the explanation.

    • chismosa says:

      BB thanks so much for clarifying this because I couldn’t believe it when Kathy said that Vic will be out of school by the time she’s 25/26— um that’s like 7-8 years of school!?!??
      Architects do less ! Doctors do less!

  6. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Watched NJ and Game of Thrones last night. Thank you MTH/Jeff for the great recap. OMG I am not sure where to begin with the NJ bunch.

    First off I totally agree with MTH/Jeff about leaving Nick out of the recaps. What happened last night during the poker game was disgusting. What they did with Nick is what I am doing with Pepper while trying to house break her. Rewarding him with candy after he say “I love you”?

    Caroline and Lauren are two bitter women that need to get therapy. What may I ask is so wrong with their lives that make them so unhappy? They want for nothing (except maybe sex). Women who act that way drive me crazy. I want to scream GET A JOB.
    We the viewers are getting the true MeGo this season. She is vile.

    I rewatched last weeks episode with Joey and Caroline. That was so creepy. Caroline giggling like a school girl around Joey. Ummmm Caro you are old enough to be his mother.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      To those of us who think Caroline looks at Joe Gorga like she is in love with him-FYI-in her blog this week she tells us to”grow up”!!! Maybe she needs to watch that seen again…

    • BB says:

      AZGirl, you may be onto something with the “except maybe sex” comment. Maybe their love tanks are empty. Oops, I’m confusing housewife franchises. Lol.

    • Lulu says:

      Good morning AZgirl! How’s your furry baby? 🙂

    • plainviewsue says:

      Wendy Williams called out Caroline today for butting in and for her sickening flirting with JoeGo!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Wendy is so funny. She calls it like she sees it, she says it like she means it…but then again, she’s “a woman and reserves the right to change her mind.”

        • chismosa says:

          Lainey haven’t watched my beloved Wendy yet but she was on Ellen so I don’t know how she taped Sunday her show— as she said on Ellen but then took a flight to be in LA today?

          I’m confused

  7. Sasha says:

    I thought last night’s show was good. No fighting and yelling is always a plus to me.

    I like Rosie but I just don’t see how she can attract anyone that would want to date her. She has got to change a few things.

    I could be wrong but it looked like Lauren may have gained a bit of her weight back.

    I like the humor of young Joseph Wakile and his smile.

    Chris Laurita gets my gold star for good behavior for this episode.

    • realhousewifeva says:

      Lauren will gain her weight back, in my opinion, because she did a quick fix without actually working on the things that she needs to change in order to maintain weightloss– eating right and exercise.

      • BB says:

        Totally Agree! And then her mom will have something else negative to say about/to her.

      • missusmc says:

        Watch it- the last person who said that was Teresa, and Lauren ever so cleverly declared that she had been raised by wolves. If Lauren gets wind of you saying it too, who knows what insults she will sling your way?

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I’m not playing on Rosie’s team, but i think she’s kinda cute. Or are you talking about her personality? She seems a little bit sad to me,…but what do I know. That’s the vibe I get. Although she seemed like she was having a good time playing poker.

      I don’t know about Lauren gaining her weight back,…but it made me sad to once again hear her mom insulting her on national television. Calling her a bitch. I don’t know, I’m just goo goo gah gah over my kids and never call them names…and I do mean NEVER. But as Orson pointed out to me last night.. “everyone is different and that’s ok…” but it’s not ok, to call your children names in my book. Even your adult children. I just think it’s hurtful. Your mom should maybe be the ONE person who doesn’t insult you on National TV. I don’t know… I GUESS that’s ok for them??? It’s just sad to me that she rarely shows tenderness to her daughter on camera. Maybe she’s really sweet to her off camera. Gosh, I hope so!!!

      • Sasha says:

        Lainey, she is too rough and abrasive. She has to put a little sugar on that attitude. I will say that she does look more like a girl this season.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          She probably needs to date more..to .get some practice learning what works what doesn’t. She came out kinda late, I think.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        I was wondering if it was that Lauren had put weight back on or if when that was filmed it was still early on in her weight loss.

        I don’t think Rosie is cute at all;I think she is angry and gruff. If I was a lesbian, I think I would probably go for the “Justin Beiber” type.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I agree with you about Rosie. I would love to know where she buys her mirrors when she was aghast that her blind date was over weight and have bleach blond hair and ‘nasty teeth’.

      She is a poor girl’s Rosie O’Donnell.

    • chismosa says:

      I agree and I always thought Lauren, even in recent pictures doesn’t look that different— her face is the same !

  8. HuskerHuny says:

    Sunday nights are once again entertaining and I’m not talking about anything on Bravo.

    HGTV’s and Food Network next TV stars is back on and I so enjoy both shows. When Big Brother begins in a few weeks, my Sunday nights will be complete!

    I did catch RHNJ as well. Having been in a similiar situation (siblings not talking; in my case, my sister and I) I sure would have appreciated if someone would have stepped in and tried to broker a peace treaty. Years went by before we were able to be in the same room with each other. All’s good now, but I wish it could have happened sooner. Lesson learned – never loan money to family; especially your wedding money.

    I was really uncomfortable watching the scene with Rosie and the guys. What’s with those kind of questions? It’s nobody’s business and I wish Rosie would have shut them down.

    Teresa’s explanation of the blood and yuck – really? Who wants to hear that? Does she share these stories with her daughters? Wouldn’t be surprised if she did. This Italian stuff is just plain weird and I don’t want to hear anymore!

    Could it be I’m beginning to see Richie in a different light? He really looked like a dufus last night and said some really stupid things. Some of you warned me.

    It’s an ugly, huge and cold house Melissa. You could have put 100 boys/children in there during the showing and it wouldn’t have helped make the home seem more homey. It’s a mausoleum without the dead bodies.

    It’s hard for me to comment on the autism situation having not dealt with it myself or knowing someone who has. I just can’t judge anyone going through it and how they choose to handle it. I wish the Lauritas and Nick the very best. They need support and not me telling them what to do.

    It’s going to be a summer kind of week around here – high temps and humidity. Summer is here! Happy Monday y’all!

    • Sasha says:

      Husker I used to be a huge Big Brother fan but I have not watched the last two seasons. I think I will check it out again.

    • BB says:

      Big Brother – Yay!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Yeah, I thought it was uncouth they questions they were asking her…but were they treating her like one of the guys? She seemed happyish in that scene. Maybe a little bit uncomfortable.

    • kit9 says:

      T’s house is really hideous outside, especially. Every time they show the outside for a T segment, I think how freaking ugly that house is. The Gorga house is very pretty on the outside and much more interesting architecturally. I like the driveway going through the house although I can’t stand the ridiculous interior style of all these Jersey mansions.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Husker, this is the Richie those of us on twitter have seen for a long time. Last night was the icing on the cake. He is the biggest douchebag husband of them all. As angry as I am with Kathy for things she has said and done, I do sympathize for her with that ape of a husband.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Teresa’s thing with the menstrual blood reminds me of when they were making the tomato sauce and Teresa’s dad made her ask the baby sitter if she was on her period because they did not want her infecting the sauce.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        The tomato sauce I actually knew about b/c I worked in a hair salon owned by an old world Italian man-I worked for him for 18 years and heard every old Italian wives tale-including the tomato sauce one…but never the one Teresa talked about last night!!!

      • melthehound says:

        As I said, Teresa does say some pretty phucked up shit and blames it on being Italian. Either very superstitious or just likes to shock people. I suspect both.

  9. JNTJ Richie is so disgusting that I actually changed the channel after he told his son 4th gear gets his hand closer to the girls thigh. UGH BLECH I need to go wash my ears out.
    I just can’t watch Richie in ANY scene anymore. I no longer follow every hw, I only follow a few. I don’t think I follow ANY NJ hw.
    That scene with Nick saying I Love You to Jac was sweet, but it’s parroting what he was told to say. I know every child who is autistic is different. I agree with MTH to not blog about those scenes.
    The scenes in the gorga house with the realtors was hilarious. No one wants that house!
    Rainy Days and Mondays always gets me down….(I miss the Carpenters)

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I Loved the Carpenters, too, Diana. Still love their music. Karen’s voice was like, like….velvet. For All We Know…that one puts a lump in my throat.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Thanks Diana-I don’t know how I missed that…I think I zone out when Richie is on my TV!!

  10. Do you recap as you watch? You give detailed recaps, I didn’t even watch and could tell what was going on by twitter and here.
    Autism, you said it best, there is different stages etc. One thing Jaqueline is giving viewers is.. false info… You don’t recover from Autism, you progress if possible, Jenny McCarthy’s experience is one and a million.. He still is Autistic, she is in either denial or mot telling the story. she mentioned in her book about caccines, that turned out ti be the Dr. lied who came out with that theory. was on GmA about 2 years ago. But some cases it does not matter. I know a little, I worked with an 18 year old a while back, he was on a 6 year old level if that, but strong like a grown man.

    • *vaccines* I meant.

      Also, autism is not cancer, it bugs me they call it “recovering”
      Think it as, if you are born deaf? Maybe not a good comparison, but you can learn to cope; I.e. sign language etc.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hi Miss Fabulous!! love your gravatar. Good post.

    • Rebecca says:

      BUT – autism experts now doubt that Jenny McCarthy’s son is on the autism spectrum based on the types of seizures he had. Unfortunately, people are misdiagnosed all the time.

      If you read some of the “other” boards, you’ll see a lot of mothers questioning Nicholas’ diagnosis based on Jacqueline’s own words:

      She suspected autism up front. She went to eight different doctors to have him diagnosed. she stopped when a GENERALIST gave her the diagnosis. (Red flags popped up in these mothers’ minds.)

      She left New Jersey to have her son’s tests read by a California doctor when New Jersey is one of the leading research centers for autism. (Red flags popped up in these mothers’ minds.)

      She waited six or eight months because she was waiting on insurance. Again read above. (Red flags popped up in everyone’s minds.)

      • It’s a law in NJ that all kids must be covered by insurance..

      • Sam says:

        Red flags went up for me too, and I find myself wondering whether Jacqueline is someone who wanted and needed her son to have a problem and therefore shopped around until she found one that would work well on camera.

        (I hate how cynical Bravo has made me become!)

        • I don’t doubt that he is autistic, I just doubt that she knew along and went on a fake journey. Meaning, before she went to CA? Sounds mean to say, just do not trust Jac.

          • Sam says:

            No, I don’t trust her at all, especially since I view the people on this show as being grifters. I still remember the claims that Caroline’s boys made about their blackwater drink being a cure-all, so when Jacqueline talks about “cures” in relation to autism I get suspicious.

            • plainviewsue says:

              Sam, did u read Jacq blog? It literally was an advertisement for every single product or person or doctor that Nicholas sees. Free advertising for free services? Sorry. That was how I saw it.

              MTH, I commend you for not including the autism storyline in your recap.

              • Sam says:

                No, I didn’t read the blog and appreciate your telling me about it. It backs up my contention that the people on this show only care about money and freebies. How sad for Nicholas that he has that kind of mom.

            • Yes, Albie gave his cousin a cpl cases and said, “he is behaving better”
              Oh please! behaving better?

              • Sam says:

                Thanks for confirming that my memory is right! I’m expecting lots more claims like this in the future.

      • missusmc says:

        I swear, it’s like you’re in my head! I basically agree with all your posts today (and most days, I believe.) So just consider all your posts “seconded” by me.

        • Contessa says:

          All good points above, but I think Jaq went to various doctors because she was in denial about her sons autism. She would not accept what the doctors were telling her, and she shopped docs until she had to accept the diagnosis. I can’t imagine what they went through…but I’ve known people in similar situations and they accepted and worked with the child/professionals asap. The insurance thing is weird to me big time.

          • missusmc says:

            Could be. I don’t doubt Nicholas’ diagnosis at all. I just wonder if Jac and Chris haven’t skewed their story to enhance their own storyline for the show.

            • Rebecca says:

              So, while you have more experience here than most of us posters, you do see while so many people are skeptical, right? Which is sad, because if it had been a family with a better, cleaner background, this would be a truly sympathetic story line. Because the Wacky Laurita grifters are involved, this is just an undignified way to get attention. That little child deserves better.

              • missusmc says:

                I’ve generally agreed with you the entire time. I believe it was me who was making everyone else mad here…

    • melthehound says:

      Miss Fabulous, I do recap as I watch but I don’t include too much she said she said detail because it would take me far too long and you would be waiting til Friday for a Monday morning recap.. That’s why I invite everyone to correct me when I’m wrong or fill in the blanks when I miss something.

  11. AZGirl says:

    @Rebecca: I totally agree with your post on Game of Thrones. The scene with Joffrey being sent to bed was great. Rest of finale was pretty predictable.

    • Rebecca says:

      The counsel meetings are my favorite scenes. The first one where they moved their chairs around was brilliant.

      If this show is shut out of the Emmy’s again, you will know they are fixed.

  12. Great recap! I will add my two cents about the Nicholas-Jac-Chris dynamic as I am a parent of a child with Autism. Their reactions actually seem VERY real to me. When my daughter was diagnosed 12 1/2 years ago, I was broken. My husband and I were in a fog. The tears would come out of no where. Those first few years were exhausting trying to find the right therapy, therapists, schools, etc. On one side, I am glad to see that Bravo is showing this “reality”, however, I am concerned about the exploitation. I write a blog about our situation and don’t use my daughter (or son’s) real name in order to protect their privacy.
    And when Nicholas said “I love you!” I had tears…lots of tears! I remember that moment with my girl. I believed she would never say it again and she finally did! These are huge milestones. Maybe there are some parents out there whose children are just being diagnosed and this will give them hope…
    As a parent who sought out every therapy imaginable I can say there is no magic cure or recovery for my daughter’s autism. Yes, she has functions at a much higher level than when she was first diagnosed, but still has autistic tendencies. I do know of children who received very intensive therapy (Applied Behavior Analysis 30-40 per week) who have had their diagnosis changed after 3-4 years. There are statistics that show this does happen. My hope is that Jac and Chris concentrate on Nicholas’s therapy during these early years.
    And because I cannot help myself, I laughed so hard when the handle came off the sink in the Gorga home! The editing was fantastic…Mel bragging about the house and the perspective buyers noticing cheap things about the house. Also, no buyer wants to walk through a home with young children yelling and slamming on the piano!
    And Lauren, Lauren, Lauren…please move out. You are 24 years old…GET A LIFE! Find some friends, get laid, join a book club. Stop whining about how hard it is a to be the daughter of rich parents.
    That’s all from me…BTW, my 15 year daughter has a 3.7 GPA and will be a cheerleader this fall at her high school. She is MY miracle. No, she has not “recovered” from autism and I am not sure I would want her to. Her autism makes her unique. She can memorize movies…like the whole movie! Her visual memory is amazing and I would never want her to lose that! Her gifts are amazing and I hope she will find a job that allows her to use her gifts and talents.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hi TSoula!! As always, I loved your post. I have got to get to work…but you guys are so much more interesting!!! Hugs to you, TSoula – thanks for sharing your personal experience as a MOTHER…you and MissUsmc impart so much great information and the truth that you’ve lived and are living. It is really touching. We are blessed to have you here.

    • designernailsdiana says:

      WOW Thank you for sharing your daughters journey with us. It’s good to have a new perspective from a parent.
      I cried when Nick said I Love You to Jac. Just hearing your child speak those 3 little words when he stopped speaking brings so much hope.

    • BB says:

      It’s great to hear how well your DD is doing!

      • HuskerHuny says:

        Thank you for your very real prespective. I will read your true life stories and respect them. I just can’t judge the Lauritas and how they choose to treat their son. It’s not for me to judge because I have no real first-hand knowledge of their situation. Am I correct in saying that when Jac and Chris say recovery, that they are talking about Nick recovering what he had but has since lost since being diagnosed – speaking, etc.? and not being cured of autism? Thanks again! Your daughter sounds remarkable.

        • It is my understand that Jac has been in touch with Jenny McCarthy who is an advocate for an organization known as Generation Rescue. This organization believes that children with autism can recover (meaning they would be a typically developing child) if you follow all their guidelines…specific diet, specific supplements, etc. Many of our kids “gut” issues and sometimes when those gut issues are corrected, many of our kids appear to no longer have autism…perhaps they were never autistic to begin with if it was related to digestive tract? I cannot say. The point is, ABA (Applied Behavior Analysis) is the only proven therapy/methodology (with imperical data) that can improve a child’s level of functioning with autism. Yes, many of these kids will do so well that they may not be classified as “autistic”. When you saw Chris offer Nicholas the sucker in exchange for saying those three precious words, that was basic ABA. It is very simple after first by offering small rewards for completing tasks (maybe the child completes 3 tasks for a reward). The skills then build up so that a child learns to do things because it is what is expected of them and there is not a need for constant rewards. This is the methodology we followed for our daughter. Yes, in the beginning it may seem like “training a dog”, but when your child cannot tell you they are hungry, they hurt or want something, you will do whatever it takes to get communication moving. In the beginning, it was very simple, but has become so much more! She can have conversations and pursues relationships with peers. She is affectionate and empathetic.

    • missusmc says:

      I do feel like clarifying that the core emotions and feelings that Jac is feeling is, of course, what all parents with new diagnoses feel. When I judge her and say she needs to get off the show, it’s not because I think she’s wrong for feeling how she does. I don’t like how she’s going about it, and I don’t like that Nicholas and CJ are on TV (and I’ll say it again- cute as they may be, those Giudice girls need off the show, as well.) What I don’t like is the scripted aspect of this show. It’s all too neat and tidy. Remember last year, at the reunion? How Jacqueline was sobbing that Nicholas stopped saying “I love you?” And they replayed his sweet little voice saying it, before he lost language? I feel like them working on him resaying that (because in Jac’s blog, she said the music therapist really worked hard to pull that out) was just another storyline for the show. It took away the genuine humanity of it, and made Nicholas out to just be playing a role on the show. THAT’s the problem I have. It’s not being handled with grace, or dignity. Nicholas is being used as a prop to further a storyline, and whatever emotion or story beyond that, even if it is realistic and true, doesn’t matter, because the entire situation is wrong.

      The End. Seriously, you guys. I mean it today. I’m out with the autism talk (and we mamas get sick of saying the “A Word.” Trust me. That’s why my entertainment must remain light hearted. Bring on the strippers with the OC tonight!

    • Sasha says:

      Thestory, that’s how I felt about about that moment with my tears. Thanks for sharing your story.

    • Thank you! my point too.. no recovery.. He’s not injured or has a disease.

    • Amber...RealWife says:

      Hi Story,

      I too have an autistic child who is a high functioning teen about to go to 9th grade. RealSon is a visual autistic as well, who loves movies, directors and producers too. He does music videos as well and is into heavy metal at the moment having gone thru hip hop r&b, pop, classical and standards. Ac/Dc is his current fave but many a morning I woke to Ozzy screaming “All Aboard! 🙂 🙄

      The Nic scene last night broke and warmed my heart. It was a moment I experienced as well. I don’t think of Jac as exploiting her son because this is her life at the moment. If Nic doesn’t belong on screen NONE of the others do too! To hear or see people say he shouldn’t be shown is akin to saying hide the crazy kid before company comes. He exists. If people are uncomfortable watching him struggle as he reaches a milestone that parents experienced ages earlier, too bad for them. That scene gave many viewers hope for their own children. It’s Jac’s reality that she has a son who has autism. To not show her battles and triumphs wouldn’t be real or be her reality.

      If people didn’t come to RHONJ to learn about Autism they shurrrr as hell didn’t come to learn about ingrediences, poison, lapbands, blackwater, cookbooks, advice books, cannoli kits, haircare, make-up, pacemakers, lesbian love, driving lessons, tarzan, music making, wine making, menstruation voodoo and other bullshit all day everyday!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Wow, good points Amber. Something to think about, for sure.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Amber -while I believe that Jac is exploiting her son -in no way think he should be hidden away. I just don’t buy Jac saying that she isn’t using her son as a storyline b/c in my eyes-she is. She did the same thing with Ashley.
        -And for what it’s worth-I don’t watch any of the HW shows to learn anything.

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          You say storyline I say reality. Potato potato. She shouldn’t show her son and his struggles with Autism, so what she’s supposed to be up Tre’s butt again? She’s got a full plate in front of her and viewers don’t want to see it because they feel uncomfortable? I call that bull___! The comment about learning was aimed at those who say they didn’t come to RHONJ for teachable moments. I know they only come for the TomFukkery.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            I’m here for the TomFukkery-not for seeing people use their kids as storyline props…I don’t know where the uncomfortable part comes in-I’m not uncomfortable with Jacs son-I’m uncomfortable with Jac who likes to use her kids and their hardships as storylines on a show that is at best gutter TV-that makes me uncomfortable!!! She wants to promote autism awareness on a show where discussing asshole bleaching and strap-ons are the norm??? Come on-there has to be a better more respectable place for that then on this TomFukkery ridden show!!

            • LaineyLainey says:

              There HAS TO BE A BETTER PLACE. I don’t trust her either, based on what I know from the past episodes. Nothing else to go on but what she chose to do on this show. Those tearful talking heads where she threw her own daughter under the bus…I can’t/won’t get over it. It was another example of family betrayal on these shows. A mother doing it to her own daughter…ugh. It was hard to watch. Will I ever be able to separate that Jac from today’s Jac? So far, the answer is no.

          • missusmc says:

            I also agree that NONE of the children under the age of 18 should be on this show. None of them. That way, they won’t be filmed getting in the middle of the grown ups fighting. And I don’t need to know that Gia hasn’t gotten her period yet, and I don’t need to know that CJ is getting to the age of “self exploration,” as the previews for this season are indicating. Whatever happened to protecting your kids from the world until they are too old for you to protect them anymore? Am I just old school like that?

          • melthehound says:

            I’m sure she will be up Teresa’s ass again in no time. I just hope for her sake, Teresa used a good amount of bleach 😉

      • kendo says:

        Agree! Not a fan of Jacqueline, but I see nothing wrong with what was shown last night! Reading the comments last night, I kept thinking this is her life, if she suppose to hide it. They really need the money, so leaving the show is not an option. Chris may end up in jail!

        • Sam says:

          There are other ways to earn money besides being on TV — and if it weren’t for this family’s focus on money money money, jail wouldn’t be looming on Chris’s horizon.

      • Stars99 says:

        Hi Amber – I really appreciate your comment – it helps add perspective and it showed me that i had to be more clear about why I won’t be mentioning Nicolas in my blogs, either… When I imply that I don’t think Nicolas should be on the show – it has absolutely nothing with “hide the crazy kid before company comes”… It breaks my heart to think that some may have interpreted my words in that way. I apologize if I offended you in any way. I generally have issues with any kids being exploited on a show like this. Since these shows are all about drama, we tend see the kids when they’re acting out, saying outlandish things, and even when they’re talking to their parents about deeply personal things. The parents on this show are not adequately protecting their kids from this “reality show” animal, in my opinion. In my heart of hearts, I truly believe Jac should be protecting Nicolas from this reality show grind especially at his age and because there is so much in which they are dealing. It has absolutely nothing to do with being embarrassed about a child with Autism. I don’t trust Bravo editors… I don’t trust fame seekers… it pisses me off when kids are exploited. I’m concerned with the number of people, the lights, the cameras that are involved in filming this series which are all overwhelming stimuli under which most of us would melt under that kind of pressure. By the way, if they truly needed to “hide the crazy” before company comes… In their household, Nicolas would be the only one available to answer the doorbell.

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          You’re doing an excellent job STARS! Keep up the great work!. This is such a hot button issue it’s likely someone is going to get their —- in a wad. But I tell you what…l won’t take my toys and go home because this is my home! 🙂

          • LaineyLainey says:

            huh? who said for you to take your toys??? not I, said the Lainey!

            • Amber...RealWife says:

              You better not! LOL. I’m here for the duration. Not your rain, sleet, snow or cavalcade of adversarial posters can deter me from commenting. LOL I’m in hot humid Land O Lakes Fl and all is good!

              • LaineyLainey says:

                so anyway…what kinda toys you got. I’ve got candy cigarettes and a boomerang. that’s it.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        Thanks Amber – brilliant insight. Jac was on this show way before Nick came along. If filming Nick is wrong, then filming all of the children (those under the age of 18) is equally as wrong. I never thought of it that way before. Nick’s autism and his parents struggles with it just might be the most real thing on this show!

    • kit9 says:

      Thank you for sharing your story. The idea that Jac is lying about any of it is just absurd to me. If she had a long long history of lying through her teeth, like Teresa, maybe. But, she doesn’t. And, nobody knows what she’s going through unless you’ve been there.

      • Amber...RealWife says:

        AMEN. Absurd and disrespectful.

        • BB says:

          Huh? I don’t think anyone has been absurd or disrespectful either last night or today. There are several posters here who have children with autism, including missusmc (twins I believe). She’s certainly entitled to her opinion because she can speak from personal experience just like you and a few others. Doesn’t make anyone right or wrong, just their own personal viewpoint and perspective. There’s just something about RHONJ. I just wish it would go away forever.

          • missusmc says:

            I wasn’t trying to cause issues. I was just trying to share my story because my boys are the same age as Nicholas, and received their diagnosis at around the same time. I just wanted to offer a new perspective. I’m sorry.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Why are you apologizing, Missusmc? No need for that. You’re good. It’s all good.

            • Amber...RealWife says:

              You better stop it! You have nothing to apologize for. We are in the same ship just different compartments. As we go on in life what we believe at this moment, will change with every discovery and new treatment for Autism. Neither one of us is wrong. Everybody else is! LOL 🙂

          • Amber...RealWife says:

            BB while I can’t go thru all the posts that have been absurd and disrespectful… TO ME THAT IS IN MY OPINION… I will say there has been some off the wall shite posted by some regarding the Jac and Nic story. We are all entitled to our opinions and I respect where MISS is coming from and hope she does the same for me. While she has toddlers I have a teen and i’m coming from a place where I wish they had shown Autistic children more than once a year on Dateline, Niteline, 20/20 etc. Showing how a family is struggling, because it is a struggle, battle, fight and COPE would’ve been great to see 10 – 15 years ago.

            • missusmc says:

              I totally respect all opinions on this site. Really, really 🙂 I think the difference is the fact that my kiddos are young, and yours is older. I’m still “in the trenches.” I love meeting parents of older kids on the spectrum, because they always tell me “It gets better.” Because they all remember that the younger ages are quite challenging, as you’re wading through the muck of therapy options, and figuring out how to best utilize the early interventions. It is precisely BECAUSE Jacqueline, too, is “in the trenches” that I am so against this. If Nicholas was your son’s age? No problem on my part. Right now, the focus needs to be on Nicholas, but as he gets older and develops, there would be a really interesting story to tell there. J could give hope to others (she, too could then say “I’ve been there. It gets better”), Nicholas could show off the awesome things he could do, and there would be much less tears. I just think it’s wrong timing for a platform like this. Even Jenny McCarthy waited until they had gotten out of the young age before she started writing her books!

      • kendo says:

        Did you really have to include Teresa? She’s my favorite! I really wished she would have flipped that table on Caroline last night.

  13. I forgot to mention since this show is scripted and viewers know that half the shit is staged, introducing this just makes viewers wonder how much she is making up. We know that Jac does more than research Autism on a computer.. ahem.. Deletes tweets that she says about Tree. But it is also hard at this point for us viewers to take to Jacqueline. what really pissed me off was in her first blog, she said WE the viewers suggested she came back.. not true. I think anyone who cares about Jac would want her to focus on her son and not be on a show. I know she needs the money, again, that is why she is on, not b/c we asked her to come back.
    .

    • LaineyLainey says:

      PREACH!!! ^5

    • Wondering how much time is required of the housewives…I mean, the cameras are around the house and you are supposed to just live your life…now I know, there are the silly parties and stuff and the interviews. You could say she is working from home at least to be there for her kid? I am of the belief that she would be better off w/o the show for now so she could concentrate on her boy and her family without the judgement of the outside world. I commend her for advocating for our kids, but she is really at the beginning of this journey. She has a VERY long road ahead of her.

      • Amber...RealWife says:

        She does have a long journey ahead. LIfe-Long! Knowing that she does have financial difficulies is it fair to say she should give up her paycheck to take care of her son? Many parents of special needs children don’t have the luxury of not working. She’s no different. The only difference is that Jac and her ‘celebrity’ may have more access to treatments and can barter for exposure on her blogs, twitter and RHONJ.

      • According to interview that allabouttrh had from Teresa editor (that helped write her book)
        “AllAboutTRH: How do you know Teresa Giudice?
        Heather Maclean: Teresa is like a sister to me; she’s one of my best friends. I’ve known her for almost five years now. Our families have vacationed together. My 7-year-old son thinks Milania is his girlfriend. My husband’s been to Atlantic City with Joe. I talk to Teresa maybe 10 times a day, every day. I adore her and adore her family. People who know me know I do not suffer fools gladly, so the fact that I’ve been so close to Teresa for so long says a lot about who she really is. And she’s one of my favorite people ever.

        I met Teresa a few months after RHONJ started airing, before it really blew up. I was on a reality TV show in 2005, and it was the best and worst experience of my life. When I got back, I started my career in publishing, and so I reached out to Teresa to let her know I knew what she was going through and about to go through, and that I would be willing to help her get into publishing as well to secure a future beyond reality TV.

        I could have reached out to anyone on the cast, but she really struck me. It was so refreshing to see someone on TV who love-love-loved her husband and her life so much. Before RHONJ, the Housewives spent a lot of time bitching about their lives. Her energy was just infectious.

        So I called her up, and we just hit it off right away. We have a lot in common — we’re the same age, we’re both from loud Italian families, we both had 3 kids (she didn’t have Audriana yet), I went to college in Jersey, so I’m kind of a Jersey girl…

        Eventually, I helped her get an agent and a book deal, and she told the publisher she wouldn’t write the book without me. It’s extremely rare that friends work together in publishing — the publisher usually hires a writer and editor for you, but Teresa insisted on working with me. That’s the kind of person she is: crazy loyal and generous. It’s been 4 books now and we’re still best friends!

        There have been rumors from Melissa’s camp that you write Teresa’s blogs. Is there any truth to that?
        That Melissa has a “camp” is so funny to me. Teresa doesn’t have anyone doing her dirty work — not a nanny, not a manager, not an assistant, not even a PR person. Now that I think about it, was Teresa the first Housewife with young children *not* to have a nanny? LuAnn had one, Camille had three, Tamra, Alexis, Bethenny, Melissa… Even though they made fun of her for it, Teresa made raising your own children cool, and I love that. Now they all hide their nannies or pretend they never had one (“foreign exchange student”… I die!). So anyway, no I don’t ghostwrite Teresa’s blogs. I don’t ghostwrite anything. A ghostwriter is a secret, uncredited writer, and I’m credited on everything I write or edit. To Teresa’s credit, she’s never been insecure about having a co-author — she’s always talked about it, even on “Celebrity Apprentice.” You’d be crazy to not work with a professional on a major book, especially if you want it to be successful!

        Teresa knows every word of her blog is going to be scrutinized though, so she does run her thoughts and ideas past other people to make sure they sound good. She generally watches the episodes with her friends in person or over the phone and gets their third person feedback. She talks about what bothered her in the episode, if she’s being too sensitive, whether she should say something this way or that. I think it’s very smart, and I would do the same thing if I were her. Wouldn’t you?

        I will say I only think this question comes up because people don’t give Teresa enough credit for how smart she is. She speaks two languages fluently, still talks primarily Italian with her mom and dad, and thinks in Italian. When you do that, you end up mixing up words. With her blog, she has time to think and write it down correctly. It’s not rocket science, it’s a blog!

        How do you feel after watching Teresa’s relationship with her brother?
        Nothing makes me happier than seeing them back together because I know how much she adores him. He’s her only brother. She would do anything for him.

        How exactly does Bravo work?
        Wow, that’s a good question. How to even begin to answer that… Let’s see, I worked with a lot of different networks, but they’re all pretty much the same: they want great entertainment as cheaply as possible. I did the “Road Rules” pilot for MTV (where I starved), “Rebel Billionaire” for Fox (where I almost died), and I’ve been around for a lot of Housewives filming (I’m still recovering). I’ve sat in Caroline’s living room while they filmed a scene in her kitchen, I was at the Posche Fashion Show where Teresa was forced to confront Danielle (I was crying in the corner), and I filmed the food photo shoot for “Skinny Italian” with Teresa.

        I think the best way to describe reality TV is “real people put into unreal situations.” They cast interesting people, but filming them in their normal lives is never going to be interesting enough, so the producers amp up the drama. They’ll tell you, “This is boring! I’m falling asleep! No one’s going to watch unless you guys do something dramatic!” They don’t necessarily give you lines, but they will definitely give you suggestions, or tell you want they need you to say “for storyline,” but to go ahead and “say it in your own words.”

        To clarify though, Bravo is the network that airs the shows, but they don’t film or edit them. They have a say in editing and what they’re looking for, but the production companies are the ones who create everything you see on TV.

        Every Real Housewives show has a different production company: NY has Shed Media, BH has Evolution, Atlanta has True Entertainment, and NJ has Sirens. And every production company has their own internal culture. You can get a feel for what they are used to producing from their other shows. Shed did “Super Nanny,” Evolution did “Big Brother,” True worked with Oprah, and Sirens did a bunch of crazy crime shows “Panic 911,” “Who the (Bleep) Did I Marry?,” “Deadly Affairs,” “The Nightmare Next Door”… That should tell you something about the “stories” Sirens creates.

        To be fair, the producers try and get as much of a real story as they can, but it’s almost impossible. Have you ever heard of the Heisenberg effect? It’s the idea that nothing can be purely observed because the very act of observing something changes it. The minute a camera shows up, reality changes. Producers can’t film in a place without getting prior permission from the location and everyone in it. And not everyone in a cast member’s life will agree to be on TV. Their parents might say no, kids from a previous marriage might not be allowed, so you’re never going to get a true and complete picture.

        What were your thoughts on Caroline being upset with Teresa regarding her remarks on the cookbook about Caroline’s children?
        I thought Caroline was absolutely, totally faking it for storyline. Producers were dying to have a Caroline vs. Teresa story, but neither of them had any beef with the other. I don’t know who suggested it to her or if it was her idea, but it was ridiculous. Caroline ignores the actual stated compliments for her kids in the book — “Albie and Christopher Manzo are adorable” — and feigns outrage at a joke about Teresa’s girls not wanting to work at a stripper carwash? It made no sense. The stripper carwash was a part of their storyline the season before, and Caroline was all proud of it. It was obviously a joke, and a joke Teresa was making at her own expense.

        Was the Olive Garden comment intentional?
        The Olive Garden comment wasn’t even from Teresa! Or me! It was made up by a “Rachel Ray Show” producer. I was on the phone with Teresa when she was backstage at Rachel Ray. She called me because they wanted her to say a funny “insult” to Caroline about her cooking, and she couldn’t think of anything. I couldn’t either! So there you have it: neither one of us could even think of a fake insult about Caroline! One of the producers said: “How about, ‘Caroline’s as Italian as the Olive Garden.’” It was such a non-insult and silly, so she went with it. The episode taped, the episode aired, no one said boo. Caroline fake insulted Teresa and her cooking, and Teresa’s scripted rebuttal was the Olive Garden comment.

        I think one of the things that make Teresa’s cookbooks so successful is that she is so conversational, and she tells stories. Being on Rachel Ray was a recent story about Teresa’s life when we were writing the introduction. But just to make sure Caroline didn’t think it was a new joke from Teresa, we even wrote that it was from the Rachel Ray show in the book! And Teresa picked a huge, beautiful photo of Caroline to put in the book over the caption: “me and another famous Italian mom, Caroline Manzo.” So Teresa repeated the already-tested and approved Olive Garden joke, said very clearly that it was from Rachel Ray, and then gave her own opinion of Caroline: she’s an Italian mom. There was absolutely no confusion. For someone as supposedly smart as Caroline to pretend to be insulted was frankly, insulting. Especially since she and her family are known for being such jokers themselves.

        Have you ever met Melissa Gorga?
        Yes, only once, before she was on the show. She was very different back then. I went to the Beatstock summer concert with Teresa, Gia, and my daughter. Teresa, Jacqueline and Caroline were asked to be there to introduce Pit Bull and Enrique Inglesias. It wasn’t for Bravo, it wasn’t filmed, it was just a fun summer event, and our girls got to go backstage and meet some rock stars. When we were walking through the crowd to get to our seats, we ran into Joey and Melissa who were sitting right on the aisle. Teresa introduced us, and invited them to come sit up front with us, but they said they were with Melissa’s sisters and declined. Later, Joey showed up in our row, grabbed Gia, and threw her on his shoulders and danced with her. He reminded my daughter of her own uncle — fun, sweet, and goofy.

        What was the vibe you got from Melissa?
        She was really quiet–nothing like the big fake lashes, and over-the-top everything that she is now. She didn’t have a lot of make-up on, and actually seemed kind of shy. Or maybe it was just disinterested. I definitely didn’t get an “I’m into music” vibe. It’s amazing that a year later she was up on the stage herself… TV is magic!

        How are Melissa and Teresa doing now?
        I can’t speak for Melissa, but I know Teresa truly believes in her heart that things are good. She’s completely let go of the past and just wants to move forward with her family.

        How does Teresa feel when she hears Joe Gorga say that Caroline Manzo and Melissa Gorga’s sisters are the sisters he’s never had?
        I don’t think it bothers her because she knows it’s just for the show. You can’t get upset about one edited comment from months ago.

        Melissa Gorga says she and Teresa had a horrible relationship prior to the show? Is there any truth to that?
        Every relationship, especially with in-laws, is going to have its up and downs, but I think their differences have been greatly exaggerated for the show. Before the show started taping, they never missed a single Christmas together. When Melissa joined the show, Antonia was only 5 and Gino was 3. Joe Giudice is Antonia’s godfather, and two years later, Melissa picked Teresa to be Gino’s godmother. They obviously weren’t in a horrible relationship for years and years.

        What are your thoughts on Melissa saying that the show hasn’t affected her family in any way?
        I just don’t understand that at all. How could you say it didn’t hurt your family unless you don’t count your in-laws as family? You’ve been married for 8 years and live 5 minutes from them, and you don’t count your mother-in-law, your father-in-law, your nieces, your goddaughter? Because it definitely hurt all of them, and more than just a little. And they were only hurt when she came on the show! It hurt her own husband too, not talking to his family for a year. I want to say she must have been drunk or something, but it’s not the first time she’s said this “my family” thing, is it? It boggles my mind how she thinks.

        There were rumors that Teresa doesn’t have any friends. Is there any truth to that?
        Teresa is one of those really magnetic people who makes friends instantly and keeps friends forever. She’s just the most fun, sincere, and hilarious person to be around. Her husband Joe’s the same way. His charm doesn’t even come close to translating on camera. Everyone who meets him in person loves him. They have tons of friends; their house is filled with people all the time–it’s like an open door over there.

        I think you don’t hear about her friends because they are business people and professionals who don’t live on Twitter and don’t have any interest in being on TV. I think Sirens has begged every one of Teresa’s friends to be on the show, but we’ve seen the downsides of what Teresa’s been through. No sane person would sign up for that willingly.

        What are your thoughts on Melissa writing an advice book?
        I wish her all the best! I don’t understand competitiveness or snobbery among authors. Anyone who wants to write a book should. If it’s good, people will buy it and tell their friends. Publishing a book is a dream come true, and I think everyone should try if they want to. I actually walk you through the whole process on my own website: how to get an agent, how to write a proposal, how much authors get paid. If you’ve ever wanted a write a book, check it out!

        Any truth to Teresa spin-off?
        I know that as soon as there’s news, Teresa will announce it to her fans the minute she can!”

        • chismosa says:

          I don’t know that I would say that Ter(ror) speaks English fluently….. Kind of a stretch 😜
          I was raised with 3 languages and seem to handle myself ok. I never got confused or anything like that

          I know people who started the 2nd primary language later than infancy/toddler-hood and don’t have problems.

          I’m sorry I think there are wires incorrectly crossed in her cerebrum/cerebellum. Jmho

      • Opps didn’t mean to paste that much.. It’s not the whole post.

  14. designernailsdiana says:

    As a parent who had a child who not only didn’t speak to me for almost 2 years, but he also didn’t speak to his sisters during that time as well. His wife, now his ex, was in his ear along with her Mother who has her own mental health issues.
    I think I can speak for those that live with this heartbreak every day. When one family member chooses to stop talking to another and the first family member tries time and again to reach out to the one who initiated the split. It is up to the initiator to reach out first to rebuild the relationship. (I hope that made sense)
    Caro and Dina need to do the work. I don’t know who pushed whom away first, but the one who started the split needs to reach out now. WHY let all this time go by, when so many people would gladly want one more day with a loved one who has died? WTF is wrong with these HW’s that they can walk away from family members so easily?
    Get off our screens and rebuild that relationship because you will NEVER get these days back EVER!!! God forbid a family member dies and the rift is still there. No way to go back one day to fix that rift.
    Ok off my soapbox!

    • kit9 says:

      Oh, man! I tried to watch this show and couldn’t get passed the first few minutes. That’s all it took for me to want to strangle some(all)of them! Is this show worth watching? I didn’t give it much of a chance so far. lol

    • ramonacoaster says:

      Thanks for posting. I like the Empress’s take on this show. I found a Boycott Princesses of LI Facebook page which has currently almost 2000 more likes than the official bravo princess page. It was created by a resident of Freeport. There is already a song recorded in response to the show. Bravoooo Long Island!

      • chismosa says:

        I said it last week —- the mayor or city of Freeport should be on the attack against this show
        Especially the munchkin with scoliosis who can’t walk

        SO INAPPROPRIATE

    • realhousewifeva says:

      I tried watching the first episode but it seemed to drag on…I can`t even figure out what it is about..Just a bunch of girls who party and are waiting to get married? They aren`t even all that attractive, so there was not much for me to be interested in.. lol

  15. realhousewifeva says:

    I read comments last night about Jac and exposing her situation on t.v… I know everyone has different opinions on it. Here`s mine. I think at the end of the day, Jac and Chris REALLY needed the paycheck that Bravo provides and they are going to do whatever it takes to keep it. Her timing with revealing Nicholas` condition last season was already suspect (right before the reunion, how convenient, IMO). She was setting up her storyline now that Ashlee was out of the house and she already played out the whole Teresa drama.

    I am having a problem with this entire franchise becoming all about the kids. Gia has been on this show since she was 6, and I see her growing up waaaay too fast and I wouldn`t be surprised if her next reality show in a few years is Teen Mom.
    Milania was funny in the past because her scenes were sporadic and seemed natural, while now it seems like Teresa is going out of her way to expose Milania since she knows how much the viewers enjoyed her. From naming her haircare after her, dragging her at midnight to WWHL to visit Andy Cohen and now so many scenes of her on the show…it is becoming too much, IMO. I have 4 kids that are all close to T`s kids age, and she is not doing them any favors.

    The problem that I had with the Nicholas scene was that it was COMPLETELY SET UP FOR THE CAMERAS! This was not a random real and spontaneous moment. This was Chris going out, dragging his son into the room with a lollipop in hand to entice him and then making sure all eyes were on him to get him to perform. I do not pretend to understand autism and those of you who deal with it firsthand, but I cringed when I watched that scene, and it has NOTHING to do with my dislike for Jac…it had to do with the fact that they purposely used him to further their victim Jac storyline. Had he run into the room and said `I love you` and gave Jac a hug…yes, tears would flow. But he was forced into the poker room, crying for the lollipop, said whatever his dad instructed him to say, and then wiggled away from Jac`s hug and kiss because he just wanted that lollipop! He is NOT a storyline prop. However, the production company knows they will play on some people`s emotions like a fiddle, and it seems to work. Forget about how NICK might have actually been feeling at that moment..

    Richie is disgusting and they also are just playing around with a new storyline. Kathy knows everyone thinks they are boring and people are grossed out by Richie so *lightbulb* here comes a new `marriage problems` storyline. Give me a break.

    I guess money talks…and people will do anything for it. Even shame themselves on national TV. I don`t like any of them so far.

    • missusmc says:

      This!

    • Amber...RealWife says:

      WOW. Jac struggled to get pregnant for 2 seasons before she conceived Nic and he’s supposed to disappear from the cameras because he’s not atypical? Jac and Teresa have children of the same age. Adriana seems to be hitting milestones even as she’s pulverised by Milania, yet Nic was a quiet child always sitting on his mom’s lap. Something was wrong. Jac had to, chose to come clean and admit that her son had Autism. For a storyline to you, but it seems to be her reality to me. Whether the child knew what he was saying or just wanted a lollipop doesn’t matter a bit when the parent of a non-verbal child hears them string a word or a few words together.

      • Kat From Ohio says:

        I’m inclined to agree with you. Admittedly I know nothing of children as I’m a struggling mommy of a cat

      • missusmc says:

        I see this is a blog divided, and that’s OK. We are all approaching this topic with different viewpoints, but I can assure you, NO ONE here thinks Nicholas needs to be hidden because he is autistic. No one. The concern is, are Jacqueline and Chris using this diagnosis to appear more likeable and stay relevant on the show, and is this really in the best interest for Nicholas? As you and I know, the first few years of receiving a diagnosis is a whirlwind of information, therapies, ups and downs. Perhaps Nicholas and Jacqueline would both be better served by backing off and saying they are focusing on his therapy and exit the show gracefully. I’m sure she could still give us updates on the Bravo blogs.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          He is such a beautiful child, isn’t he? well said, too – missusmc. You both make good points and I agree no one here ever said (at least I don’t think so) her sweet baby should be hidden. I know you never said that. Jacqueline’s past “on camera parenting” makes her hard to trust. she used Ashley in such a disgusting manner for her own glorification, imo. It was so sad to see Ashley being treated the way she was treated on camera so that her mother and step dad could have an interesting storyline. Could it have possibly been worth it, in retrospect? I am glad Amber brought that up (that Nick shouldn’t be hidden) in case that was the vibe she was getting from us. I would hate for someone to think we didn’t care to see HIM on camera. I know, I (we) just want what’s best for HIM…but Amber did make me think,…being on this show clearly isn’t best for him (in my opinion), but it’s probably an across the board thing, where it’s not really best for any of the kids to be on camera? That’s fair. Does all the filming take away from the attention he needs. I would guess that yes, it does take away from quality time that she could be spending with him. But does filming take away from genuine quality parenting from the other parents? I would vote yes. I just felt that with his unique situation, well, I felt more strongly about it for Nick. We all wish the best for them all…even those of us who don’t care for Jac’s past behavior on the show…I do wish for them a bright and happy future. I know I’m not alone in that wish.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            You are not alone Lainey

          • BB says:

            Agree. You are not alone and I would guess that everyone, even those who aren’t “fans” of Jac , only wish the best for the whole family.

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          Divided indeed. What WE would do really has no baring on what others should do. To say that they are using their child’s condition to garner sympathy and appear more likeable is absurd to me. Jac has her fans and her haters/detractors too. While I am neither, and I can’t say that I love or hate her, I understand that she does have fans who love and adore her as much as the other housewives do. For some to say that they don’t believe her fans didn’t want her to come back sounds like hateration. Also those who say she’s using this for her victim storyline… she is a victim… of circumstance. because besides a few of us here, there but for the grace of God go I. People that don’t have a special needs child can be sympathetic or apathetic but they should be respectful of those who do and grateful that they don’t.

          • missusmc says:

            I’m sorry if I offended you. Really. I wasn’t trying to be unsympathetic or disrespectful. I am in Jacqueline’s same boat- my twins were diagnosed at the same time as Nicholas. I understand what a mom goes through. I just thought this could be handled differently. And I didn’t mean to overstep at all. Sorry.

            • Amber...RealWife says:

              Miss you haven’t offended me at all and I hope I haven’t offended you either. You are giving your opinion on this blog which is what we all do. I understand your point of view and can see where you think Jac may be going down the wrong road and for the wrong reasons. I just don’t see it that way. I see a woman who has a job on reality tv who has a newly diagnosed Autistic son searching for ways to have him ‘recover’ or have a better quality of life. She needs to keep working just like all the others in her cast and like thousands if not millions of parents of special needs children.

        • kit9 says:

          I don’t see how spending literally a few minutes on camera is not serving Nic’s best interests. And, this is their life-to say they’re ‘using’ it to make them more likable is grossly unfair, imo. They are just sharing a small part of what they’re going through dealing with a painful diagnosis. And, to say they’re ‘using it’ to up their likability for the show comes too close to suggesting they’re in some sick way happy they have an autistic son. Is Teresa ‘using’ her dad’s illness for sympathy? And, Jac doesn’t need a storyline. Her feuding with Teresa could easily fill another 2 seasons. And, to say they need to leave the show to devote more time to Nic? Come one, we’re talking about a few hours a week for a few months, filming time. Filming isn’t taking away time from their son and his therapies. And, they know best what serves them and their son. Really, would all the Jac critics suggest that people quit their jobs to tend to an autistic child? Of course not. Turning her nose up to a huge check-requiring very little time-wouldn’t serve Jac’s family or her son.

          • missusmc says:

            We all know that it takes several hours of filming to create an hour of reality TV, so while we don’t know how long Nicholas is being filmed, we do know that it’s more than literally a few minutes at a time. Jacqueline, in her latest blog, laid out Nicholas’ therapy schedule. Between ABA therapy in the school and at home, it is 40 hours a week. He also has supplemental therapies, hyperbaric O2 therapy time, etc. You’re looking at a full-time job for a 3 year old (not criticizing- my guys also receive therapy for 40 hours a week). Even the most fun therapy program is hard, hard work for these kiddos. Seriously, it’s hard to imagine how hard these kids work at their therapy, especially at their young ages. If Nicholas is anything like my boys, he needs “down time” after therapy just to decompress. Throw in bath time, dinner, and night time routine (essential for all families, but especially ASD families- sleep is a precious commodity that doesn’t come easily, as Jacqueline has alluded to as well), and there’s just not much quality time to be spent with anyone. It has been my experience that the quality time I do have with my children is the absolute best time of my day. I would hate for Jacqueline to be spending her quality time on this show, especially if she is still involved with fighting with Teresa (as previews have shown). If the production team had filmed while Nicholas was in therapy and there was no way this would take away from him, I wouldn’t be offended. But Nicholas was 3 during this time. That’s such a young age to be “at work” and not with mama. I just feel like our kids grow up so fast as it is. Is filming on this show worth precious time you will never get back?

      • Sasha says:

        Amber, I promised myself that I would not be drawn into any autism talk today. I just want to agree with you totally and move it along. I wonder if Judge Mathis is on yet.

      • realhousewifeva says:

        Um, excuse me? I never said that and I didn`t give an attitude to anyone about their opinion. Where the hell did I say Nicholas should disappear. Don`t put words in my mouth.

        I dont think ANY of these children should be exposed for a storyline, I clearly stated the same about Teresa`s children. I don`t like it. It is my opinion, as a mother, that it is bad enough that these families are exposing their own issues without exposing their children`s. I also said it when Simon and Alex used to put their children`s awkward moments on camera, opening them up for criticism and harsh words.
        I understand Jac having an autistic son is part of her reality and I don`t mind watching certain aspects of it (the charity or informative parts) sort of like Heather on NY did regarding her son`s condition.. but to parade him out in a totally set up scene, IN MY OPINION, is wrong.
        I also don`t mind having the kids on the show in limited capacity but not where the storyline revolves around them. It doesn`t end well. I didn`t like when Danielle used her daughters in adult scenes, when Teresa dragged Gia around to uncomfortable auditions, when Lauri Peterson showed her son`s therapy session etc. Caroline herself said at the last reunion that Teresa was whoring out her daughters..so what is Jac doing?

        And yes, IT IS MY OPINION, that Jacqueline`s big People Magazine reveal of her son`s condition was suspect. She goes from not wanting to talk about it at all in order to protect him (in her words), to making her storyline about him for a paycheck? Gross. I never, ever knew it to be normal for people to expose their children in such a way and I won`t accept it just because Bravo shoves it down our throats. My family used to go out of their way to protect us, even if we got a bad freaking grade on a test, and nowadays people go out of their way to expose their children. It`s sad. I guess some people are too good to go out and get real jobs, so they will sacrifice their family and lives for the $$$$ from being on TV.

        Slowly I am become less and less interested in these HWs shows.

        In conclusion, I think it is so funny that so many people used to complain that the `Teresa lovers` made it uncomfortable to post on here or whatever in the past, but from what I have been reading it seems the Jac fans are the ones who have been quick to go on attack lately. Relax. None of these women are that important to me, they are all crazy. And all of their husbands suck.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Rhva-I’m in full agreement with you and it feels great!!!

        • Amber...RealWife says:

          Slow down nobody put words in your mouth. This is reality tv, not scripted tv supposedly. Does Nic disappear once he goes up the steps like the little girl in FamilyMatters or AuntViv in FreshPrinceOfBelAir? No, you didn’t say he should disappear but unless his Mom leaves the show he’ll be on camera too like Tre’s kids. Funny that i’m being classified as a Jac fan when i’m not. Just a Mom who believes a mother of an Autistic child has the right to continue earning money by working on her reality show as part of an ensemble and to show her reality. Warts and all. Good day. 🙂

          • realhousewifeva says:

            There is certainly a way for them to be on the show for the money and fame (which is why they do it) without exploiting their kids. There are plenty of them on these franchises who cannot even have their kids on camera (Tamra, Brandi, Sonja…to name a few) and they are very popular on their franchises and have storylines that bring in ratings without parading their kids around or talking about their kids in every scene. NJ is becoming way to focused on the kids (if I see another driving lesson it`ll be too soon). NONE of the underaged kids should be over-exposed, and if you look at Gia`s twitter feed, I think anyone will agree. She dresses too old, wears way too much makeup and knows too much. Jac`s other son was never over shown, so why is Nicholas?

        • Sasha says:

          Realhousewifeva, it is possible to agree with Jac’s actions and not be a fan.

          I see that attack theory from a totally different point of view.

    • BB says:

      Watch out. You are going to be accused of being absurd and disrespectful. Lol.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I agree with you 100% especially how there was nothing organic or spontaneous about the “I love you” scene. The fact that we are even referring to it as a ‘scene’ I think also shows how disingenuous the whole thing was.

      As I send in the blog, I am delighted he is starting to be come more verbal and acquiring more words. But between school and therapy this child’s days are long enough…I don’t know why ‘production’ needs to become part of his day.

      For the record, I don’t feel that any children belong on reality TV. It took many years, a ton of media attention and lots of advocates to get the state of PA involved with the Jon & Kate plus debacle. After almost their entire life’s on tv, on their final season it was finally order that 16% (or 2% for each kid) of all future earnings had to be held in trust for them.

      Now that the dust has settled, the damage that has been done to those kids from every angle is just starting to come into fruition, where 2 of her kids were expelled from kindergarten. I am sure as the years go on there will be more tales of woe.

      Reality TV and even non reality film and tv have been historically very damaging to child actors/personalities that were ‘typically’ developing, A special needs child adds another layer to that dynamic and I feel that the concerns of exploitation are legitimate.

  16. plainviewsue says:

    Milania saying about her grandfather “He’s a nice little fella.” Best part of the episode!!!!!!!

    The camera showing Melissa fawning overself when Jennifer says “What else is fake in this house?” Second best part of the episode!!

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Iknow, I loved that!!! I loved Tre’s smile when Milania said that. That was a sweet moment.

  17. Powell says:

    MTH I’m not finished yet but I’m just laughing. From your real estate scene to the Frito dog you are too funny. You have a gift my friend. I don’t know why you were dreading this. 🙂

  18. Stars99 says:

    Great job, Mel! That recap had to be really tough to do… It’s shocking at how much there is to snark about even when it was a relatively peaceful episode. After I watched it I had to take a shower…. lol…

  19. TexasTart says:

    Lainey – the reason the blog post looked different and you didn’t notice a by-line is because MTH was the blog author. Meaning he was the person that wrote posted the blog…his name is with the date below the title. It would be somewhat redundant to add “By MTH” since he ppsted it himself. Likewise his comments are in blue today!

  20. TexasTart says:

    Sorry to breakup the NJ crapfest, but here’s some good news

  21. princesspindy says:

    Great Blog Jeff!!!!!! Made me laugh a lot!! I just LOVED the edit of Mel and Joey DeAngelo’s McMansion, I thought I was seeing things when the woman said, “I wonder what else is cheap in this house.” and they cut to Melissa in the Living Room…. Also all the cuts to the boys fighting on the couch as Melissa is talking about the kids…. It reminded me of how funny the editing of Toddlers and Tiaras is, they always cut to a screaming kid just as the Mom is saying how well behaved she is!! Loved it!
    I must have blanked out cuz fortunately I missed the part where Tre was talking to Joe, I only saw the first part where he was again, The Voice of Reason…..

    • melthehound says:

      That Was the best.. No secret around here how I feel about these individuals so it was especially good to me. As for Teresa’s ‘story’, it was cringe worthy.. I don’t know if I doubt what she was saying but it isn’t information I needed to hear. I gave my only reason for mentioning it in the recap..

      • princesspindy says:

        Check out the video I posted below this…it is the Game of Phones from Bravo…they do it to Mel again!!

  22. ItzAngieDuh says:

    Loved the recap MTH!!! Especially loved the snark!! This recap reflects my views of the episode exactly!! These women-all of them-are disgusting!! Who is DonCaro to mend somebody else’s fences, when there need to be healing in her own relationship with her sister!! It’s been years since the have spoken! Self righteous much? Melissa with her fake amenities in her house. She knows damn well she isn’t moving. Who else will buy that monstrosity? Even the husbands are disgusting!! Richie & Michelangelo are pigs, Juicy is beyond words. Chris is bearable, and Al is so over it, I’m surprised he hasn’t moved into their apartment permanently. The potential buyer with Theresa’s friend Jennifer was Misa Hylton, a celebrity stylist & also the mother of P Diddys oldest son Justin. Since Jennifer is friends with Lil Kim, that showing was probably fake as well, since Misa probably did it as a favor to Jennifer. I wonder if her husband is a pig too!?! I’m really beginning to be disgusted by these HW shows. Can stand anybody on OC, Miami, or New Jersey. I do have a few that I still like on BH & Atlanta is hilarious to me. Last night I watched in full snark mode. I agree that Jacqueline should take her struggle with autism off the show. She should be concentrating on her son. I guess they need that paycheck. Melissa-I have no words. Can’t sit to see how she pisses off the bitter clown tho! Happy Monday everyone!

    • melthehound says:

      Hi, ItzAngieDuh – Thank you for the info. I saw mention of P-Diddy during the show here in chat but didn’t get how it fit in with the show. Glad you enjoyed the recap..

  23. Donna says:

    I sincerely appreciate the information that parents of autistic children have shared with us. Thank you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

  24. Rebecca says:

    Amber…RealWife,

    While I don’t think any of us think Nicholas should be “hidden” from the cameras….. I know I feel badly that his life is being disrupted by production – the back end. Strangers stream into his house on odd schedules. They bring big, loud, noisy equipment and make them do take after take after take. Is this not especially confusing for a child who can’t communicate well?

    If all the little kids should be taken off the air, than fine. While most can do without their mothers during these events all the time, how sad is it for Nicholas that his mother is running around the country leaving him behind for plastic surgeries, blech water appearances, celebrity weddings, etc.? Wouldn’t he benefit from more shared therapy time with his mother?

    Again, if it was a family with a more respectful past, we wouldn’t be having this debate. Personally – IMHO, I think Jacqueline needs to get off the show for her own sanity. We see her hysterical and drinking and inserting herself into drama constantly on this show. Add in those precious boys to the mix and you can see why her “story line” upsets us. It’s not adorable Nicholas. He’s not a story line, he’s a beautiful boy who deserves better.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I’m all for her making a living. But does it HAVE TO BE on this show? in this way? I guess this is their only source of income? I honestly do not know. I don’t know what Chris does besides appear on this show talking about how is erection is better than ever.

      • Rebecca says:

        Chris has done it to himself. The pilfering of company funds, the lying to the courts – professional suicide. He’s unemployable now.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          He did that to himself??? LOL Oh, you mean the business stuff, probably the other thing,too. he could have done that to himself, too right? (sorry, I’m rolling around in Ritchie Wakile World right now. LOL!!!)

          • Rebecca says:

            OH! LAINEY! That’s a horrible thought. I just threw up in my mouth.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Oh I know, I am so bad. idle hands…. oh no wrong choice of words. Sorry for causing you to regurgitate.

    • Amber...RealWife says:

      While MOST if not ALL Autistic children have sensory issues, they MUST learn to cope with sounds, lights and breaks in their routines as isolation may not be an option. I did NOT say you said to isolate Nic just saying he’s got to be around people and in this case the production crew. Also by this time Nic has seen the cameras and crew for most of his life. He’s seen, ignored them and never mugged for them.

      While some Autistic children appear unresponsive, they are listening and do respond to being treated as atypical children. SocialStories or picture books are a way to have the children “GET READY” to go shopping, to the Doctors, or to the Movies etc. They warn the children as to what to expect and what is expected of them. As the kids get older only verbal warnings, cues, prompts are used.

      As for Jac spending time away from Nic, If anyone needs a break it is the parents of special needs kids, caretakers of the elderly etc. and it’s called RespiteCare. You need a few moments for yourself to regroup even as you worry how your loved one is behaving or responding to the caretaker. I don’t believe that Nic will suffer while she’s away or believe he’s being exploited any more than the other children on reality tv. The only difference is he has Autism. The rest are just ADD, ADHD and plain ole misbehaved.

  25. shamrockblonde says:

    I can only speak for myself, but I have never, nor would I ever, call either of my daughters a bitch – be it one on one with them, in front of Mr. Shamrock, the entire family or all of their friends, so there is ZERO chance that I would do that on national television – no matter how you felt about their behavior to do that to them would be a terrible thing – not saying my girls and I would not have a “chat” about their attitudes, but it would not be like that at all – the idea, I think, is not to sink to the level that you are being subjected to, but rather to set an example of how they should be handling a situation in order to avoid being called that very thing by a complete stranger – my Dad always said that there were a million ways to say something – but that it was finding the right way that made all the difference – Caroline re-inforces the notion that crass is better than class – sad, really – it appears that Lauren is taking that lesson to heart –

    I live on Long Island, and I can tell you that there is nothing but outrage over the Princess show – most people are absolutely horrified by it, saying that it does not represent the vast majority of Long Islanders – shocking that a revered network such as Bravo would target a specific location and manufacture drama and then overhype it for the sake of ratings……oh wait…… *sarcasm off*

    now I know EXACTLY how Jersey feels – soooo not LI –

    great job Jeff!! –

    *hugs the entire board really hard*

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Git over here!!!….((((hugging you back))))

    • chismosa says:

      Shamrock I’m feelin’ you—- they showed my old historical village in a scene last night —

      I need to find where local media is in outrage…. Newsday? I don’t read it —-
      If you know of anything let me know. I will google in the meantime

      What an utter DISGRACE

      If I were Jewish I would also be ashamed, not just long islanders. Just because each cast member identifies as such (though I thought I saw Waspy and Italian last names)
      It’s to me, like a Z-level Jewish shahs of sunset on LI

  26. VV says:

    MTH, thanks for the recap. I forgot the show was last night and missed the Chat. I caught the second running but it was already 15 min in so, I missed the kids and Milania’s scenes.

    Joey Marco is a certified Idiot. He calls himself Angel of God and now Michaelangelo but he is more Tarzan of the Apes than his peanut sized tool.

    I have to come up with new nick for Bitter Clown. She’s too calm for my taste. Bitter Clown on Prozac? We know better and she’s acting fake for the sake of book sales.

  27. Contessa says:

    MTH – my congrats on a wonderfully written recap. This is a truly difficult show to write about, considering little Nicholas. I think the entire issue with Jaq and her detractors, is the way she raised and treated Ashley on the show…brining out all her teen angst. The constant crying and whaling got to be overwhelming. I cannot pretend to understand what parents go through (I don’t have kids) when their child is ill, has a condition, or like with Ashley – going through teenage nutsiness. In these circumstances I would prefer to see Jaq much more positive, as the tears are making me nuts. I know she is hurting, but we have seen these tears so much throughout the years that it comes to the point of over-saturation in my opinion. I don’t have any issue with Nicholas being filmed within normal circumstances, but I thought last night was kind of a three ring circus. On the other hand we have people saying it is good to present his strides, so I don’t know what the answer is here. Jaq has presented herself as emotionally unstable in the past, as she cries at the drop of a hat. She is in for the long haul and needs to put her big girl pants on and stop with the moaning and groaning and accept/help/educate/love her child for who he is. If I have offended anyone here please accept my apologies, especially anyone with autistic children. The
    The
    I f

    • melthehound says:

      If the ‘I love you’ scene had been done in private, even in front of the cameras for the show, it would have been more genuine to me. I am not implying it wasn’t real here but, to put the kid on display like that for a crowd of people, just didn’t set right with me. I also don’t want to ever imply that they shouldn’t celebrate milestones. I wish nothing but the best for them and Nicolas. They will still be dealing with this long after RHONJ ends, for good. Always appreciate your comments, Contessa 😀

  28. BB says:

    I know Stars is going to do the NJ blogs (and a wonderful job she does on them too), but this grabbed my attention.

    On Mel and Joey’s house: Teresa said “Joey did a wonderful job. It’s in our blood. My father did construction in Italy and when he first came to America.”

    On Mel and Joey’s house: Mel said, “Joe put his heart and soul into our house. His father wasn’t in construction. He had to teach himself how to do it on his own.”

    I guess it could be construed that Joey’s dad was no longer in construction when Joey came along. But haven’t I heard in the past that Joey learned a lot of the construction business from Juicy Joe? I just thought these two comments were interesting.

    • VV says:

      In typical Tre and Melissa fashion. They contradict each other even when they don’t even know.
      My take: one of the Producer set this contradictory statements by asking leading question to each one.

      You’re right I heard that Joey learned construct “business” from Juicy. Perhaps, Tre was talking about his dad worked in contruction only no business ( my guess)

    • Rebecca says:

      It’s no different from “we’re moving to get away from Teresa” on the last reunion and “we’re not moving because of Teresa” in this week’s blog.

    • princesspindy says:

      There was a whole thing about years ago Joey Go borrowing tools from Juicy and not returning them and Juicy had to go buy new ones to finish the job that he was doing….and Juicy was still pissed and IPPHO rightly so!

      • princesspindy says:

        why the phuck do I know this, so sad!!

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Yeah, they were trying to resolve their issues and Joe Gui admitted that this is what first started his ill feelings toward JoeGo and everybody laughed at him and minimized what happened. They just laughed in his face. JoeGo could have and should have apologized or gosh!!! replaced??? the expensive tools he borrowed and failed to return.

        • princesspindy says:

          Yeah, immature baby who takes no responsibility for borrowed items. That really pissed me off. I remember a whole discussion here about how some of us no longer allow people to borrow our tools because of similar incidences.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Right. Hands off my tools, you tool.

            • princesspindy says:

              Except with this group of guys it’s more like “hands on”, lol!

              • LaineyLainey says:

                yep

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  My husband and my little brother have this fight about tools all the time-Kevin always thinks every tool my brother has belongs to him and vice versa-it’s been going on for at least 18 years with no end in sight!

  29. The divorced husbands of the RH have the right idea in not allowing their children to be filmed. Could you imagine the train-wreck if Tamara’s kids were on the show?? If you want to air your dirty laundry on TV, go for it, but do not sacrifice your children’s privacy for a paycheck!

  30. melthehound says:

    Hey everyone.. I’ve read all your comments to this point and really appreciate your input. There are too many (which is good) for me to respond individually so please accept this as my thank you and you’re welcome.

    A special note to you autism moms here. There is no denying that you all have far more expertise on the topic than I do. I welcome your input and thank you for sharing your experiences. It is out of respect for you that I choose not to concentrate on those particular parts of the show. We aren’t just talking about some batshit crazy HWs stuff here, who all signed up for the show and whatever comes with it, questioning timelines and stuff like that. I admire your tenacity and all the effort you put into your kids and again, thank you for sharing it.

  31. Lulu says:

    Hello everyone! Hope everyone’s day is going better than mine. I have a 2.5YO who has decided to be terrible today. All I can say is it’s a blessing in disguise that my liitle Aiden can sleep through his tirades. The joys of a toddler.

    Great job on the blog MTH and I couldn’t agree more about Nick. My biggest and greatest objection to having Nick filmed. Is a concern for his well being. Those who have experience being around autistic children regardless of spectrum. Know that they are easily upset in certain situations. I can only imagine how much pressure he is feeling from all the people/camera crew extra in his home. Jac and Chris are focused on his “autism” but how about when he behaves like a 3YO? How about running around on the playground? going up and down slides? playing with other children? For Nick’s welfare and how unstable Jac is they shouldn’t have come back. I wish they would of put Nick first before their selfishness. They are painting themselves in a negative light of parents convinced that “autism” is something you can recover from. I’m afraid the entire season will be devoted to them finding a “cure.” Rather then embracing an adorable little 3YO.

    I fail to see the point of Tre/Momz meeting? What was the expected outcome? Seems to me they just hate each other more.

    Out of curiosity the homes that Joe Gorga “rehabed.” How many have issues of shody construction?

    • melthehound says:

      Thank you Lulu 🙂 IF they show Nicolas being a ‘regular’ kid (running around on the playground, etc), I will happily report that in the recaps.

  32. BB says:

    I’m beginning to think the show should be renamed “Real Kids of New Jersey” Way too much kid exposure on this franchise.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Nancy-how is your sis doing??

      • Nancy says:

        Hi Jill,
        She’s doing great thanks. She wants to get back to work asap. 🙂
        How is your day going?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Oh that’s great to hear Nancy!! Good for her wanting to get back to work!!
          My day is going fine-rainy and nasty here in NY so I got lots of cleaning done!!!!

          • Nancy says:

            I wish I could say the same. Roxie just brought in a big long lizard and is torturing it.
            My biggest fear is stepping on one with bare feet in the middle of the night. Ewwww

            • Rebecca says:

              I once heard the dobie out in the kitchen at night and went out to investigate, my glasses in my hand. I kicked a blur and after putting my glasses on, found the dead bird she brought in for me.

              • Nancy says:

                OMG you poor thing. My darlings didn’t bring in many birds this spring. They must
                like lizards more.

              • princesspindy says:

                Years ago my cat woke me up in the middle of the night. I picked her up to tell her “bad cat” and turned on the light and in her mouth, inches away from my face, was a mouse. I can still see myself throwing her down and screaming….so cool under pressure.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Ewwwww…nice that they bring you these gifts!!!

              • Nancy says:

                It’s interesting as my 2 cats can’t stand each other but when one brings in a catch
                they both work hand in hand on capturing their prey. They really are pack animals.

                • chismosa says:

                  Nancy do they try to kill it after they bring them in alive?

                  And is it true they bring them to show you the prize– like, to present them to you?

            • AZGirl says:

              Nancy I have to commend your cats. Lizards are fast and hard to catch.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          Nancy, I am sorry I missed the original post but what happened to your sister? In any event, I am glad she is feeling great. She (and you) were so kind

  33. Nancy says:

    BB…look what I found on Youtube. What did Dr Turner mean in the kissing of the hand scene
    when he said…”And if I didn’t accepted that I don’t deserve to live.” ? It’s around the 47 seconds.
    I can’t wait for season 3.
    :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IWWMxIHC6k

  34. lillybee says:

    TY for the recap, Mel.

  35. TexasTart says:

    MTH – No thank you about filling in the blanks, I am quite fine with them staying blanks. Stars said the men on this show need voted off the island and wouldn’t that be a treat so the HW audience could be free of all the thinking with their dicks, discussing real ones, fake ones, sigh. You know, Bravo wouldn’t have shown that if they weren’t given the material in the first place! And that’s just how classy those NJ husbands are (and Bravo sinks to another low….but then there’s the bachelorette party tonight…I’ll pass on that too!). I will NEVER get past the complete and total pervert feeling I get about Richie. Glad I didn’t see that scene where he ogles young women his daughters age. We might have to sterilize the blog for the mention of this guy alone. shivers. I’m sorry I contributed to the very mention of that animal!!

    It would have been worthy though to see this scene where it’s asked if anything else is fake in the house and the camera cuts to Melissa, HA! And Milania mocking her mother. I always liked the scenes with T and her kiddos. They are getting more air time this season, no?!

    MTH, you are wise to skirt descriptions of scenes that are related to Autism. I firmly believe this topic should be left to the audience to decipher. This is a blog of an entertainment nature, it should not take on the responsibility of forming opinions about Autism, regardless of one’s education on the subject. Just my opinion; I have no affiliation with this blog other than reading and commenting.

    • Powell says:

      You know the ladies & some of the spouses on NY & BH have,made little jokes about sex but they haven’t been vulgar or explicit about it. I don’t know what makes the NJ guys think the viewers want to hear what they have to say.

      • TexasTart says:

        Exactly, Powell. Inuendos and flirting are one thing, but these guys are flat out vulgar.

    • melthehound says:

      The decision for me to stay away in the recaps about actual autism stuff came during the show while people were chatting here. That was the final nail in that coffin. I encourage people to talk about it otherwise because I do appreciate the discussions but it’s clear to me, that it’s just too personal for some here, who don’t need a know nothing (on that topic) like me blowing a lot of uninformed hot air about it. If I learn something from the discussions AND see something worthy of mention, I may revisit that decision.

  36. Just Wondering in Jersey says:

    Thanks for the excellent recap Mel. It has been my experience that home owners are asked to leave the house when it is being shown and I ROFLMAO when the faucet broke and the counter top chipped. I wouldn’t buy anything that ape made.

    • Powell says:

      JWIJ right. LOL. I’m like he’s a contractor & they know where to get the deals from. He couldn’t get some decent faucets & real stone countertops? At $2.8 mill that house should be perfect & nothing but the best materials used. Idiot!! But that’s what happens when Joey & Mel try to build bigger & better than Joe & Tre.

    • melthehound says:

      You’re welcome JWIJ… That’s been my experience too. Not the broken faucet or chipping counter unless I was buying ‘As Is’ but or if it is for sale by owner (no agent).

  37. Powell says:

    Diana how are you doing & how’s your dad?

  38. AZGirl says:

    Home from the office. I really don’t think I can handle the strippers tonight on OC. I really think Tamara calling was to be a prostitute. She is just gross.
    RT recap is really funny. It calls the Walkalie’s “The Wallpapers”
    I have a feeling Milania is going rule the free world.
    OT: Pepper went to the door when I got her out of the crate and went poop and pee….Dear God this is what my life has come too????? It was hot and she got it done. I rewarded her with a yummy.

  39. windycitywondering2 says:

    Jeff – a succinct recap that wisely avoided the autism issue. And a huge thank you to all the moms here that are educating us on that issue.
    WE have always had spirited yet respectful debates on whether or not children, of any age, be on the show. IMO, it really depends on the age, the storyline they are involved in and the comfort level of the individual child and not an all in or all out call.
    AS for husbands on housewives shows….NJ has the worst bunch and I wish they would all go find something else to do! They are rude, crude and socially unacceptable and add nothing to the show.

    • TexasTart says:

      And when they find something else to do – I don’t want to hear or see anything about it!

    • melthehound says:

      I have always objected to the househusbands from the first time I saw Simon (NY) on the air. I thought he was way to involved with his wife’s job and role on the show. I feel the same about all the rest and yes, NJ is particularly bad. I don’t identify with them, I don’t admire any of them, and I certainly would not want to Be any of them. Some, in part, due to who they are married to.

  40. BB says:

    OMG. I honestly had not read this RT blurb when I mentioned this upthread. I’ll bet Mary got paid for her article. Show Me The Money!!!!!!!! Lololol!

    http://www.realitytea.com/2013/06/10/teresa-giudice-melissa-gorga-tell-conflicting-stories-about-joe-gorga-construction-history/

  41. BB says:

    We’ve got tornado warnings posted near us again. Not us, but fairly close by. 😦

  42. Donna says:

    TTTTTTTTTTT

  43. princesspindy says:

    &http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-5/videos/game-of-phones

    This is a funny short video , at :40 JoeGo says he has to take the call cuz it’s his plumber, lol and then at 1:00 Teresa asks her phone what is the meaning of a sociopath and they cut to Melissa, HAHA!!

  44. boston02127 says:

    I’m watching the rest of NJ right now. If I had kids, I would never let them near Richie Wakile. Ever. He’s so perv creepy.

  45. boston02127 says:

    Did anyone get a good look at Lauren’s room? It’s so small for that house. And she’s got a dozen dead roses hanging from her wall. Bad Zen.

    • chismosa says:

      I said this yesterday. She has a tiny teeny room in that huge house

      Probably the Don’s guests get bigger rooms

    • melthehound says:

      I didn’t pay a lot of attention (yeah, I know, the recapper isn’t paying attention) but I didn’t know that was her bedroom. I thought it was a closet.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I caught that. hee hee. good one. perhaps it was unintentional, but it made me laugh.

  46. boston02127 says:

    Did they show Joe G. reading with a magnifying glass to prove he could read?

    • princesspindy says:

      I think he can read, it’s Joego that I am pretty certain has reading issues.

      • RealHousewifeVA says:

        Has Joey gorga ever read anything himself on the show? I`m not even joking, he always makes someone else read stuff for him (texts, letters, etc)

        • princesspindy says:

          It was sad when Melissa showed him Antonia’s letter and he got that wrong….

    • OK, I think I just peed my pants…ROFLMAO!

    • melthehound says:

      They did show him with a magnifying glass.. I don’t know if he can read or not but like the others, I question Joey’s ability to read. I can identify with the need for a magnifying glass but I use ‘reading’ glasses instead 😉

  47. boston02127 says:

    I think the Wakile’s should brag about Victoria becoming an LPN first, even an RN.
    APRN Oooh-kay. I wish her luck but I smell a bed pan washer. Especially if she’s takes after her dumb father.

  48. BB says:

    Rachel Zoe’s son is a most beautiful little boy, but I have to say if I didn’t know he was a boy, I would think he is a most beautiful little girl, with the hair and some of the fashions she puts on him. Those eyes! As lovely as the hair is, both Schuyler and Rodger could use a trim.
    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/rachel-zoes-son-skylers-long-hair-draws-criticism-from-online-commenters-2013106

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      This is the new in thing to do…never cut your sons hair and dress him in girlish clothes-I don’t get it and I don’t like little boys with ponytails or clips(I know someone personally who clips her sons hair back with those cute little butterfly clips) I just don’t get this “trend”…at all.

      • missusmc says:

        It’s been my experience that those moms are hyper offended if anyone confuses their precious snowflake for a girl. It’s weird.

        • cusi77 says:

          Ohhhhh! That baby has the most beautiful eyes! Gorgeous boy, to tell ya’ the truth!

      • Laineylainey says:

        Texas little boys are not doing that. The poor kid would get eaten alive in Tx. His parents would too. Personally, I’m ok with it…but it would not go over well in this here parts. That probably explains why one of my Chilluns is in NYC and the other is in LA.

    • chismosa says:

      It’s awful. I don’t know why she doesn’t EVER CUT HIS HAIR

    • It is a Jewish custom not to cut your son’s hair until he is three years old. Since RZ and Rodger are both Jewish, this is most likely what is going on.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I did not know that Krissy. consider me informed now. 🙂 thanks!

      • chismosa says:

        Oh ok thank you! I should have remembered that !
        But IMO no need for bows and embellishments- if you ask me —

        So we’ll see when he gets older. Her show probably is not coming back

  49. boston02127 says:

    Ugg….Caroline needs a life. She has no story line what so ever. The whole Man-zero gang can leave and wouldn’t be missed by me. They can take scary Rosie with them.

  50. boston02127 says:

    OC doesn’t start till 9. I’m going to close my eyes for an hour. See you guys at 11:30 when I’m up all night.

    • cusi77 says:

      Sleep tight, Bostoncito!

    • BB says:

      Have a nice nap, Boston.

      • cusi77 says:

        BB_ Sweetie, how is that beautiful Baby doing?

        • BB says:

          According to DD, he was full of himself today! But that’s because he’s sleeping longer at night and staying awake more during the day. I think she got five whole hours of sleep (all at one time) last night. Plus two more hours after he woke up, ate, and went back to sleep. That’s a good thing, especially when she’s going back to work week after next.

  51. cusi77 says:

    Watching here the rerun of OC… Please, someone, throw a sandwich to that poor girl! I do think that Lydia is too, too, too thin! I can give her 20 Pounds I gained during the winter!!! 😀

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I have an extra 15 I will gladly donate!!

      • cusi77 says:

        That will make it size 2!!!! Yay!!!!

        • cusi77 says:

          NOT “it”… HER size 2!!!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Before the end of the night I bet we can get a few of our friends to donate a pound or 2 ….always someone looking to unload a few pounds!!!!

          • BB says:

            I just got rid of 5. I should have sent them to Lydia.

            • cusi77 says:

              How did you got rid of them, BB? I use to live on the “Zone diet” , not to lose weight but to be healthy and keep my cholesterol levels low, instead of taking Lipitor and having as a side effect Liver damage. I have been having sugar cravings and succumbing to them! Let’s play the BIGGER LOSER!!! Who wants to join me?

              • BB says:

                I am BB and I am a carb-aholic. I have not had any rice, pasta, potatoes (or derivatives thereof) and have had very little bread for the past week. I’ve been eating lots of fruits and veggies and protein. I like soup and that’s filling. And I don’t deprive myself of a piece of chocolate or two if I am craving. Lost 5 lbs in a week, but that’s only a drop in the bucket to what I need to lose. One day at a time. One day at a time.

                • Laineylainey says:

                  You are da woman. What about cheese? You eating cheese?

                • chismosa says:

                  BB congrats. I’m a carb person too and that’s bad because I’m an O-blood type and I think it’s bad overall

                  Plus I’m reading about Wheatbelly and that doctor and it’s scaring the beejesus out of me. I don’t want to eat wheat anymore

                  Dairy– that’s a whole other saga

                  But good for you!!

  52. Nancy says:

    Is anyone going to watch this crap with me?

    • BB says:

      Me! Nancy did you see where the NE Patriots are signing Tim Tebow?

      • Nancy says:

        No I didn’t hear that. I’m glad for him.

      • Nancy says:

        What about Tom Brady?

        • BB says:

          Oh, nothing is going to happen to Tom Brady. They may not even use TT as a Qback. They may play him at TE.

          • Nancy says:

            Well that’s not good for TT. Now I feel sorry for him.

            • BB says:

              Hey, at least he’ll be part of a winning team.

              • Laineylainey says:

                The 6 or 7 figure check will comfort the poor guy. He could sit on the bench all season with his thumb up his…nose…and still be filthy rich. Lottery winner rich. Yee haw!!! I like the guy, but not feeling too terribly bad for him. Hope he can stay in the league as long as possible..and watch the gold pile up.

                • Nancy says:

                  That’s not what an athlete wants to do though.

                  • Laineylainey says:

                    True. At least in Tebows case…but have you seen TonyRomo play…i mean really watch him? He literally throws the ball up into the sun, that’s how much he cares. That’s our millionaire quarterback for ya. My point is that I don’t feel bad for someone Whois active in the nfl, nba, MLB, it could be worse. They live large, even the ones who don’t play much. I have a gf who’s daughter is married to a prof baseball player…it’s amazing. One of my friends’ sons just got drafted by the Astros. It took a lot of hard work by him and his family …it’s like he won the lotto around here. It’s surreal, I’ve known him since he was in peewee league. Oops…I’m going off on a Lainey tangent. Maybe I’m having a little jelly attack. Pray for me my friends! LOL

      • cusi77 says:

        Me too! Just let’s have the eye bleach at hand! We will need it!

  53. BB says:

    I guess the chat for OC is going to continue on this blog? I’m ready!

  54. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Is Eddie really going to marry that tramp?????

  55. BB says:

    OMG. Gretchen is so devastated. Poor Gretchen

  56. BB says:

    Both Vicki and Tammy need a hairbrush.

  57. cusi77 says:

    Bwaaahaaaa! Vickie need Depends!!!!!!

  58. BB says:

    Ewwwwww! Vicki peed the bed. Gross!

  59. cusi77 says:

    This devils of Bravo! Vicky is getting old by the second! haaa!

  60. BB says:

    Gretchen reminds me of Luann – the bossy vacation coordinator.

  61. Nancy says:

    This is a despicable “sport”!

  62. cusi77 says:

    Told ya”… Gretchen cries fast than anyone!

  63. BB says:

    Gretchen with the fake crying. I can’t take it.

  64. Nancy says:

    Remember when Bethenny did this on scary Island.

  65. boston02127 says:

    Where’s Kelly when we need her? Scary gift bags!!!

  66. boston02127 says:

    Umm..Vic, I’ve never “leaked” but I just pee’d my pants laughing at you.

    • Laineylainey says:

      No comment. Except to say… 5 years ago I would be laughing loudly. Now I’m all shifty-eyed.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Hahahahaha….Lainey and Boston…both of you almost made me pee!!!!

  67. Nancy says:

    klmgbijnsvhu

    That’s from Mona!!!

  68. BB says:

    Is Gretchen part of someone’s harem?

  69. BB says:

    Oh, no you didn’t Tamra.

  70. JumpTheShark says:

    Okay…I just tuned in…did I miss anything? Is Gretchen a belly dancer now?

  71. Nancy says:

    I need a drink!

  72. boston02127 says:

    Oh dear God….here we go with Tamra’s story. Blah blah blah….

  73. BB says:

    You guys. I thought this would be a fun episode to watch, but it isn’t. All the fake tears and crying is just too much. I tried. I’m out. I don’t want to hear Tamra’s sad sob story.

  74. Nancy says:

    Tamra has spent too many days in the sun.

  75. boston02127 says:

    Cry cry cry, When I was 2, someone put my diaper on backwards. When I was 5, I met the Teletubbies, and they scared me. When I was 12, I wanted a pony and never got one. I will never be a proper functioning adult.

  76. NJBev says:

    This whole episode is such fake BS
    First of all, they weren’t drunk when they went out, the “dancing
    in the streets” was set up, and Gretchen is such a baaad
    actress.
    Where is her wrath of furry???? It’s like she starts and then backs off-
    is she afraid to confront Vickie?

    • kit9 says:

      That whole night was SO PHONY. Ridiculous. Tamra trying to act drunk, screaming ‘party foul!!!’, them climbing on a cab? Phony and pathetic. The whole thing, along with Tamra and Gretchen’s eye rolling scene on the beach and Tamra-tries-to-make-us-forget-how-vile-she-is-by-trying-to-invent-a-bad-childhood-Part-2, is truly some of the worst acting I’ve ever seen in my life. And that includes porn.

  77. boston02127 says:

    3rd marriage, 4 kids later, do people really do this crap? Just get married and work on your life.

  78. boston02127 says:

    Vicki knows Tamra’s size best!

  79. JumpTheShark says:

    I’m leaving with Lydia…

    • cusi77 says:

      I LEFT with Lydia! that was ugly! Really! Tamra wants to take the pregnancy test.. go better have the HIV!

  80. NJBev says:

    oh good God

  81. Nancy says:

    Speechless.

  82. Nancy says:

    This is on prime time TV. Charming.

  83. boston02127 says:

    Tamra just made her daughters proud.

  84. lillybee says:

    It looks like at least Lydia was treated better than Porshe for missing the strippers.

  85. cusi77 says:

    I am so glad I was preparing dinner! Those guys did not get the right memo! Wow, wow! the 30 seconds I watched let me catatonic!

  86. NJBev says:

    That was disgusting, and I am no prude-
    Don’t they make good-looking strippers anymore?
    These guys looked and behaved like ex-cons-

  87. Nancy says:

    George just walked in, looked at the strippers and said…”Don’t you have anything better to
    do with your time?” Too funny!

  88. NJBev says:

    how good can you look in the morning for breakfast–

    • cusi77 says:

      Tamra was really puffy… Too much drinking the previous night… Vicky now is too ICKY to my brain… Augh! Gag me!

  89. Formerly Addicted to Bravo says:

    Lydia has elf shaped ears

  90. boston02127 says:

    Well, we’ve seen many many penises.
    We’ve seen condoms hanging from glasses.
    We’ve seen pee.
    We’ve seen fake crying.
    We’ve seen scary strippers.
    We’ve seen Tamra have ear sex.
    We’ve seen nipple tweaking.
    We’ve seen sloppy drunks.
    And call me old fashioned but I do think your bottoms should be longer than your Virginia.
    (yes I know I typed virginia)

    Can’t wait for next week! I’m gonna go shower now.

  91. Ladebra says:

    You guys are hysterical! … Not enough to make me wanna watch, but the blow by blow (snicker) has me LOL!

    • Nancy says:

      Hi debra,
      Still liking the job?

      • Ladebra says:

        I do! It’s still a little overwhelming; there is an auditor coming tomorrow (sort of the throw her in the deep end approach). But I was able to get most of the things he asked for.

        3 weeks ago I took my car in for a major look over, explained I was starting a new job Junw 1, and asked them to give it a good going over. Long story short, one of the repairs they recommended, knicked a gasket and all the driving last week emptied most of the transmission fluid. I took off early, took the car in, and hopefully will get it back tomorrow. It’s always something! Even when you think you are being efficient!

        How is your sister doing, Nancy?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Debra-that’s stinks about the car-hope they fix it quick-glad you are liking your job-and since they threw you in the deep end they must know you are fabulous !!!!!!

        • Nancy says:

          Hi debra,
          Sorry I was away from my laptop. Greta that you still like the job but sorry to
          hear about your car. I HATE car trouble with a passion.

        • chismosa says:

          good luck LAD– I can imagine how tough it is with the new job AND car problems. Especially in Los Angeles! The city of drivers!

        • Laineylainey says:

          How’d it go with the auditor?

      • Laineylainey says:

        You said job…hee hee

    • Rebecca says:

      Wow, so does RHOC top NJ for ick factor?

      • Orson says:

        There are different kinds of “ick”. OC seems to be leading in the “Penis shaped object” category.

    • Laineylainey says:

      You said blow…hee hee

  92. Nancy says:

    I best go and find George so we can talk about quantum physics. lol

  93. lillybee says:

    Nite all.

  94. Laineylainey says:

    Mth-I finally read the blog. So funny, I loved “by the way….Lauren turned her mother into a clown.” I laughed and coughed and sputtered. Looking forward to more! More sputtering.

  95. melthehound says:

    I know it’s late and many of you won’t see this but I’ve gone and responded to many of your comments. Slept all evening and from the look of the chat, it was time well spent. I don’t care who you are (in general) but if you’re divorced, twice, you are no longer a bachelorette (or bachelor), you are a divorcee. There is no stigma in that, it just says that previous attempts didn’t work. The idea of that woman having this bachelorette party (and the others) is just plain tacky. Thing is, Even if it wasn’t for the show, I have no doubt that she would be doing the same thing. I read somewhere about a bridal shower as well.. I thought those were for first time brides, just starting out but what do I know, I’ve never been one.

    • princesspindy says:

      Always a bridesmaid, never a bride!

    • TexasTart says:

      Oh, you know what you’re talkin about…don’t have to be married to know how it works! By the sound of chatter here – it seems very unbecoming of RH behaving like they have. Perhaps the OC wives should hookup with the NJ men?! Can we get past the ICK factor, puleeeze!

  96. BB says:

    Good morning, everyone. I see I didn’t miss much after I checked out last night. Just a bunch of middle-aged (or close) women rubbing up against male strippers who were definitely not Chippendales or Thunder from Down Under quality. Lol! Sitting on the back porch, sipping my coffee. Life is good.

  97. Cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Everyone! I am here sipping my coffee laughing at all the comments from last night! I am glad I missed the moment of the cheap guys they brought to the Bachelorette party… I wonder if Heather didn’t break her pearls necklace in the process..

    • BB says:

      Good morning, Cusi. I’m guessing Heather took a long hot shower with lots of anti-bacterial soap after filming that scene. Lol!

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Good morning Ladies-BB- after just watching that episode I doused myself with anti-bacterial soap….so gross!!!!!

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