RHONJ – S5E3 – It’s My Party and I’ll Fight If I Want To

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Here we go again folks.. Real Housewives Of New Jersey or, as I like to call it, Crapfest 2013 part 3. Don’t worry if you missed it, there is plenty more to go and I doubt there was a scene in this show that wasn’t A) Scripted, B) filmed in the order we were shown, or C) remotely believable. Plus it will run a hundred more times before the reunion, 2 or 3 tonight at least. Then it will run some more. If that isn’t enough for you, I can point it out online where you can watch it commercial free. Sarcasm aside, Let’s pick it apart a little bit. One thing I need to get out of the way here is this. If it looks like I’m playing favorites, I’m not. I hate (or strongly dislike) all of them. This may not be in the order it was shown, it doesn’t matter, we didn’t see it in the order it happened. I am writing here as if everything here happened as we actually saw it (but you’re all smarter than that)..

We see Teresa at the gym with her friend Linda (?) working out. They are talking about Gia’s 12th birthday party (12, remember that). It’s going to be a coed party, her first one and she (Teresa) is nervous that boys are going to be there. Discussion of if Joey will be there, T doesn’t know but hopes so. Cut to some ice cream place (I think) where JoeT and Gia are having a few scoops. He’s drilling her a little bit on her interest in boys. Have any talked to her, asked her out, etc. She says people in her group do date… Okay.. Joe goes into telling Gia about boys and what they expect and she’s not to kiss until she’s 21. Good luck with that Joe. Apparently there was some argument between Gia and Milania.. I guess Milania is joking about the hair on Gia’s ‘grill’… I’ll let you draw your own conclusions, I’ve drawn mine. JoeT wants to know if Milania thinks Gia has hair on her teeth.. and I’ll leave you with that. Other stuff comes up, like smoking. She swears she never will because of what Nono (Grandpa?) is going through. Joe tells her it will stunt her growth anyway and she calls him a midget (Apparently he tops out at about 5’2″ according to one of our FB friends).

Now, we are at the Laurita mcmansion. They have bought some sort of oxygenated air bubble bed for Nicolas. Great. If it helps him, I’m all for it. That’s enough of that except to say that this is the first time I’ve heard Jac use the word Spectrum when it comes to her son. Here’s the really important part. Baby Joey has adopted these people as his replacement family. I guess the Marco sisters aren’t enough for him and he certainly doesn’t want to see his sister (we get to that a little later). After we get the demonstration of the new bed, they are in the living room and Momz drops the bomb on Jac that Teresa expects her to apologize. Pigs will fly first but we’ll get to him in a moment.

TH Jac perpetuates the lie that Teresa (or Joey) asked Momz to be a mediator in this feud. We know it wasn’t Teresa because Momz talked to Joey first. Remember their play date? Either she really does have concrete for a brain or Momz has gotten to her before this TH was filmed. I know that’s the lie that they want us to believe but in spite of editing, they can’t change WHAT someone says. Momz initiated the phone call to Baby Joey and She made the offer. He accepted. Let’s have that straight. For the record, according to her on the show, Melissa wants Momz and everyone else to butt out.

Now Momz turns her attention to Joey. Tells him that when it came to Kathy or Jac, Teresa really couldn’t care less. When His name was brought up however, out came the tears. She says she was asked to invite him to meet with Teresa at some point. He reluctantly agrees and I’ll just leave that there.

Not sure of the order here but let’s pay a visit to the Wakilies. Joseph and Aunt Rosie have taken Richie’s Ferrari for a spin.. Rosie wants to be the fun aunt, not the stick in the mud like his mother. As they are joy riding around, Rich and Kathy come home and note the odd absence of the car. Meanwhile Aunt Rosie is filling the kid’s head with what a great chic magnet that car is.. All I can see is a $125,000 or so car being driven on busy roads by a kid that barely knows how to drive a stick shift, in freezing rain (according to Kathy). So the two of them pull up in the drive way and parent Wakilies are pissed. Well, Kathy is. Richie is happy that his son enjoyed the joy ride making Kathy the bad guy. She’s giving it to her sister for allowing this to happen. I can’t with these people anymore. Bottom line, the kid took the car, shouldn’t have whether Rosie was there or not, and probably should have been punished. That little stunt would have cost me getting my drivers license for at least 6 months. We weren’t Richie rich though.

In what appears to be an odd next scene, we see Teresa and Joe driving off. However, Joe, is driving. Not poorly but I thought he didn’t have a license. Is he on some kind of restricted like his wife’s second cousin and can drive with an adult in the car? or did he just give the prosecutors in his case, ammo? I honestly don’t know which.. It doesn’t matter at this point, Teresa is on the phone with her mother. Seems Papa Gorga has been taken to the hospital, early Sunday morning, with pneumonia by ambulance. Baby Joey couldn’t take him, says Mama Gorga, because he is sick too. (Both the day and the mode of transport are important here). Teresa is freaking out a bit about all that is happening with her parents. She can’t live with out them (figuratively, I think) as if they go, the closest family member she has left, is her brother. Note she didn’t mention the Joe to her left. Her brother is all about his immediate family (so he says) and she is about the extended. Teresa, Sweetie, Your husband is right. It happens, it is what it is, we just have to deal with it. You too will someday belong to this club. They get to the hospital and the scene ends with them walking in.

Within that scene, we cut to the Gorga home and apparently he is sick and he fills us in on one of his details. Eats chicken soup and it comes right out the other end. Melissa tells him that they have been invited to Gia’s birthday party. He doesn’t want to go. Tell her I’m sick he says. He wants to hurt her, the way she hurt him. Once again, the topic of the play date with Momz comes up and he says that even though he told her he would, he isn’t ready to meet with Teresa yet. These people are all a bunch of worthless trash. An important part here… Joey tells Melissa that his father was taken (not that he took him) to the hospital. Remember that for later..

Back to the gym but now Melissa is there with Kathy.. I guess she also invited Jac but Jac isn’t there yet (for the class) as she’s likely out in the parking lot drunk twittering again. Kathy can’t keep up with the class and Melissa snarks in one of her TH’s that this is her ‘easy’ class. It’s a step aerobics type class. Kathy’s TH says that she’s sorry she can’t clean out the buffet and not gain an ounce and she actually has a life and can’t always run to the gym. They finish the class and go to the juice (I guess) bar to order drinks. They are talking about Joey and his 103 temperature and how Poppa Gorga is in the hospital. Melissa has a scratchy throat. In staggers Jac, sans workout gear and full of excuses, and she said some other stuff, probably about what Momz told her, who knows, who cares. They note that Teresa’s friend Linda is there (probably lives there) and they talk smack about her. Oh, Jac has decided she can’t drive on the highway when she doesn’t know where she’s going and doesn’t like to workout in public. Every day she has a new phobia. Maybe they are real, maybe not. That’s why she was late and in full street clothes. Now I get it..

We cut to a restaurant where Teresa and Kim D are dining on something after Teresa has worked out (I think this is the same day as earlier) and T gets a call from Linda.. Telling them that the others are at the gym and something about “Jac’s fat ass not being in a gym in 8 months”.. “Kathy’s fat ass can’t even get through the door”. These are their words, not mine.  None of them regularly attend that gym and it’s a 45 minute drive for Jac so why is she there? TH Teresa wonders if she’s being stalked. I guess T had asked her father if Melissa had been there to see him. He says no. I don’t know what day this was or what day T asked her father. She says, in TH that he’s been there since Saturday (Actually very early Sunday morning but for some, that’s still Saturday night. Splitting hairs here) but she has time to go to the gym. She tells this to KimD. Again, important for that upcoming drama.. There are too many cooks in this feud kitchen.

Let’s get to the funny farm… Momz and Christopher pull up in the driveway at the Manzo Mansion. She wants to get her fine china and a couple other items for the apartment in Hoboken… What do we see? A pig crossing the driveway.. Not your porky pig type, but what looks like a wild or a Vietnamese pig. Remember Frannie and Frito? I guess she’s a Vet Tech and now, she’s fostering a pig. That’s right, there’s this porker on her front lawn (I’ll bet their association loves that) grazing. I had my own jokes about this scene, I’ll let you come up with your own. I don’t know which was funnier. My brain comparing the pig to the HWs (I’ll let you decide which one) or Frito the three tooth rodent peeing on the floor in the house.  I guess this is an ongoing thing. It doesn’t shock me that Big Al stays at the Brownstone. He probably really does live there. Run out of his house by Farmer Fran and she with the animals now live there alone. While, Momz is living in Hoboken close to her baby boys. Fortunately, we didn’t see the Lauren Manzoid in this episode but we did see the Christopher one (I didn’t pay any attention to anything he said, I couldn’t understand it. He should spit out the nipple before he attempts to talk).

How about if we visit the salon where the 4 Guidice girls are getting made up for this shindig, Gia’s birthday party. Teresa is asking Gia a bunch of questions like if she knows or wants her uncle to show up. Gia isn’t happy answering any of her mother’s questions. Two thoughts here. First, shut off the cameras when these kids are around. It isn’t cute anymore. In fact, I found myself wanting to stick a bar of soap in Gia’s mouth. Second, Teresa needs to stop using her daughter as a go between between she and her brother. Gia is tired of it and on that, I can’t say I blame her but, get her off of the show. I get that this is a 12 year old girl and many have attitudes we’ll call it, but I think hers is ramped up a hundred times when the lights are on and the cameras are rolling. Nearly half her life the cameras have been in her face. Nearly all their lives for Gabrialla (who seems the most normal one of the bunch) and Milania, and definitely all her life for Audriana (who is developing Milania’s mouth). Apparently, Gia has a suitor named Christopher. Her ‘BFFL’ – Best Friend For Life. The scene ends with Milania saying he’s a little wimp. She likes older men. Hrummph.. Okay then.

Party day… I guess. We head back to the Gorga’s house. Melissa is corralling Gino and Audriana (7) to go to the party. Gino (5) calls her ‘Poopy-head’.. She threatens him with hot pepper in the mouth. I say he has good judgment. Joey wants to know if KimD is going to be there (of course she is). Melissa says she doesn’t know why, Kim doesn’t have young kids (or no kids, didn’t catch which). Joey starts in with if she’s there, tell her to FO if she says anything…  In other words, he’s trying to piss his wife off about stuff that hasn’t happened, yet. She says she doesn’t want any part of the drama and no, Joey still isn’t going. Who cares?

Party time… It is about 100 people and it’s at one of these indoor gaming type places. There are a lot of kids there and every time Teresa opens her mouth trying to meet Gia’s friends, Gia has a conniption about it. We see Gianna’s cake.. Huh? Who’s party is this? Misspelled obviously. Note to professional cake decorators out there, never make assumptions. Write what the parent asks you to write, nothing more nothing less (if that’s what happened). We finally meet Christopher.. He doesn’t have much to say and when JoeT says hello to him, the kid bails. Milania wants to know where Antonia is.. She’s coming says Teresa. Then we cut back to the Gorga home. Are these people ever on time for anything? With the possible exception of their introduction to us where baby Joey could make sure he called his sister garbage, I can’t remember once. I question if they were even on time for that. It’s a kids birthday party, Melissa, you don’t need all the war paint. Just put on some lipstick, put some of that black crap on your eyes, pinch your cheeks to brighten them up, and get going. In truth, I think she was waiting for whatever makeup artist she’s using these days to give her the J-Lo look alike face and, we just didn’t see it.

Now, we have to visit the Wakilies again. Why? I don’t know. Joseph and Victoria are leaving to go visit Poppa Gorga at the hospital. Saint Kathy can’t go because of what she said at the reunion. Coward is the word she used. That pig of a sister of hers played a part in that too. Richy tells her to put her big girl drawers on and go make peace with the man before the next time she sees him is at his wake, in so many words. In TH he says that if it were him, he would make peace and tell Teresa to F.U., Now what are you going to hate on. I know you people don’t like him, but I agree with him here.

Back in party mode. Melissa has finally drug herself and her kids out of the house and is on the way to the party. Her phone rings. Surprise, Surprise. Who is it? Her new BFFL, Jacqueline. There is some music playing in the car, loudly, Jac inquires what it is… MeGo says it’s her Navigator. Funny, Any navigator I ever heard didn’t play music, it gave spoken directions. In truth, it’s placement for whatever autotune mess she’s done now. Inquiring Jac wants to know were MeGo is going.. Why, to Gia’s party of course. MeGo is complaining to Jac that she isn’t friendly with anyone there and it’s going to be tense. TH Jac says that Teresa’s daughter’s birthday party is the last place she’d want to go to. Good to know Jacqueline because as far as we know, you weren’t invited. That’s what someone who is jealous says when they aren’t invited. Didn’t want to go anyway. Jac? I don’t know if you caught it or not.. Check yesterday’s blog. Stars has a product for you called Blorox. I think she’s on to something. While everyone else is out partying, you can stay home with this new kit and bleach your behind.

As they pull into the parking lot, MeGo says  “This is stupid”…. Good to know that Melissa (and Joey for that matter) doesn’t trash talk in front of her kids. By now, the adults have moved to their separate room and are beginning to booze it up. KimD has also arrived. We know, simply because it’s an event, this isn’t going to end well. Melissa and the two kids come in and the pleasantries are exchanged, the cousins say hello to each other and disappear into the kids part of the party. (I will note here… I don’t know that there wasn’t one but, I didn’t see a gift in MeGo’s hand for Gia) Right away, KimD starts in on MeGo about not going to see Poppa Gorga in the hospital. Why is Kim mixed up in this? As I said earlier, too many cooks in this feud, stirring the pot. Then Teresa and Melissa kind of go at it. Now, Remember all that stuff I pointed out earlier about this hospital bit? Melissa says that She and Antonia went the next day. Lie number 1. She says that Joe took him to the hospital. Lie number 2. Then she changes her story to she went on the fourth day (Tuesday or Wednesday, not sure which that would be), I say, Lie number 3. This supposedly is all in a short amount of time and this witch can’t remember what day she jumped on her broom and went to visit her father in law? Please. I don’t buy this for a minute. Neither does Teresa. She says that Melissa’s ghost must have taken Antonia because Melissa was no where to be found. Now, I doubt Teresa has been there the entire time either and the man may have slept through his DIL’s visit (I’ll get back to this in a minute) and just simply didn’t know she had been there. Remember he told Teresa (she says) that Melissa hadn’t been there. The debate of the party is did she or didn’t she… She decides she wants to collect her kids and leave. No cake for them but I guess they stay a minute for Gianna’s cake. At this point, I have a headache and have turned off the show so that’s where it ends. IF there’s more, leave it in the comments.

My comments… First, Timeline. This party was in early – mid January. The internet is splashed with announcements that innocent victim MeGo went to Gia’s party even though this feud was still going on. Hurricane Sandy was in November. Are we going to see Christmas this year? I think we have seen it every other year, why not this one? If we see Christmas now, bet your behinds that everything you are seeing is manipulated (but you knew that already, didn’t you?). Second, When is Gia’s birthday? I’m just curious, someone said June, and we know that Bravo’s production moves these events around to fit their storylines (in spite of what that hyena Fanny Andy says). So when is it really? I looked, couldn’t find it but didn’t look that hard. Third… Over on the FB page last night, a picture was posted via  twitter showing Antonia standing next to her grandfather in a hospital room. ICU (where he supposedly is)? He looked pretty healthy to me in that picture. No tubes in his arms but wires and or tubes hanging off of his chest. Supposedly, this man at this point, has water in his lungs and can barely breathe. No mask or oxygen tube either. Maybe it took everything he had to sit up like that. I’ll agree this was taken in a hospital, and that was Antonia in the picture with him. I will not however agree that it was during the early time when he was in the hospital for pneumonia. Remember that he had just had a pacemaker installed shortly before then. Incidentally, it was Jacqueline who posted the picture on Twitter. Ms would rather bleach her behind herself. Why? Who took that picture and why was Jac posting it last night? By the way, I’m sure she got questioned about it (and blocked several people because of it) because almost as fast as she posted the picture, Jacqueline removed it. ChrisL, You need to take the wine glass and twitter phone away from that woman. Those of you on FB, the link still shows but if you click it, the picture is gone. Maybe our twitter sleuths can help us figure that one out. Fourth- Momz’s opening tagline is “Love me or hate me, I Always speak the truth”.. Once I listened to that and heard it, I choked on whatever I was drinking. She is lying to us at the beginning of each episode.

That’s it folks. I’ll see you next week with the continuing saga of Crapfest 2013 (Part 4). Til then, Peace. MTH.


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497 Responses to RHONJ – S5E3 – It’s My Party and I’ll Fight If I Want To

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. I hope you had a great Father’s Day.

    From NJs crazy title to last night’s epi I can’t wait to read what MTH has for us.

    Have a great day.

  2. Cathy Connor says:

    Good morning, Hope everyone had a terrific Fathers Day..Why oh why would Kim D start that at a kids party its none of her business if Melissa went to hospital or not and when and if she went. Teresa should have told Kim D to STFU and let her handle it. This conversation should have taken place at another place another time ..Just my opinion

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Of course, you’re right; but most of what is shown on NJ should be handled off camera, imo. But then, there might not be a show? When Danielle was on, there was a well-defined “bad guy”…but now? The bad guy/good guy potentially changes in every scene.

    • Amber...RealWife says:

      ITA. There isn’t a BRAVO paycheck big enough to make me ruin my child’s BDAY party. As to TREInc. AKA Tre,KimD&Linda it’s a case of who’s stalking who? You have Linda reporting the SIL/HW sightings and KimD ‘interrogizing’ Mego about her nefarious workout regimen…WTF Does Tre now OWN the Gym and Melissa can’t invite guests?

      • Amalfi says:

        You’re right. That is a little paranoid… I would’ve never invited Kathy if my only goal was to make fun of her later for not keeping up… Nor Jac – because, well, she is Jac who loves to participate in all the skinny little bitch name calling. I am guessing Linda retaliated with the fat ass comments.

        Seriously – what a bunch of sad jokers.

      • Just Wondering in Jersey says:

        Interrogizing. Between the two of these idiots they can’t get one word right. Mego was born in this country, what is her excuse?

      • chismosa says:

        Yes Amber, it’s ONLY for Teresa— DUHHHH! Pay attention!

        And I wonder if Ter(ror) knew that she-he Linda before meeting her as a trainer at the gym

  3. Orson says:

    Well, it’s pretty clear they brought in a Team Tre this season, that Linda woman and Kim D. MTH, I don’t blame you for not sitting through the whole show. I find it somewhat more palatable by watching the second half, and then 1.5 hours later catching the first half of the West coast feed.
    Oh, and at this time, there’s maybe only one Princess LI I don’t want to slap upside the head. But it’s a new series and that could change.

    • melthehound says:

      Orson, I want to slap every one of them, from the first episode. I can’t make it through a full one, ever. Never saw a full episode of that show..

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Never made it through an entire episode – these princesses scare me!

        • melthehound says:

          Hehe… I made it through half of last night’s and I’m glad I took the aspirin before I attempted to watch..

  4. Cathy Connor says:

    Agree maybe its just that I cant stand Kim D . She is gross and such a wanna be ! YUCK You would think with hurricanes,children,jobs,friendships they would have plenty to film. If it were my Father no way would I allow them (Bravo) to exploit his illness its just aweful !

  5. Orson says:

    I just had a minor revelation (is that oxymoronic?) about NJ. In this war between Team T and Team M, it doesn’t matter anymore what someone does or for that matter doesn’t do. If someone on Team A did or didn’t do it, it’s evil and it’s evidence Team A are all terrible people. And Team B (or Team Not A because it’s gotten to the point where if you don’t back Team [fill in the blank] completely and totally, you’re the enemy] are all innocent victims. And that, IMO, is about as toxic as it can be.

  6. Amber...RealWife says:

    Hello all and great blog Mel.

    A few points…

    1. Why is Juicey DRIVING? ON CAMERA!! With all of his charges I would think they suspended his driving privileges even for work. Would RHONJ, driving Tre around be considered his work anyway?

    2. JoeGo DID drive Nonno to the hospital. As rabid as Tre was over the late visit she would’ve BLOWN her stack if Mego ‘lied’ about Joey driving her Dad. BRAVO plays hot and loose with the timelines and the father was hospitalized a few times in succession.

    3. KimD is the WORST friend of the HWs surpassing TMCFayeResnick & GrannyG for the title. What an evil shite stirrer she is, taking every opportunity to start problems and ruin events.

    • Amalfi says:

      “JoeGo DID drive Nonno to the hospital.”

      So his mother is lying? Ok.

    • Orson says:

      Most likely Juicey’s suspension ran out. The identity theft thing is still pending but he can probably drive legally. That is until his next DUI.

    • cusi77 says:

      I agree with you.

    • melthehound says:

      I guess if Joe draws a paycheck, it’s work as long as there is a camera crew with him. I hadn’t thought of that.

      Based on the show. I have to disagree with you on point two with this particular visit to the hospital. Mom Gorga said, Ambulance. Even Joey said that his father was taken to the hospital. He didn’t say how but ‘taken’ to me infers that he didn’t take his dad himself. Remember that Joey was also sick according to his mother on the phone with Teresa. I believe that at one point he was ill, but I don’t know if we are looking at that actual time. I said, first paragraph, I don’t believe anything we are seeing here.

      Your third point, I agree. There was no real (non TV) reason to bring all that up at Gia’s party or any other party for that matter. It could have waited for a ‘chance’ meeting somewhere else. Perhaps at the gym.

      • Amalfi says:

        Mel, Teresa says in her (probably reinacted) phone call with her mom that her dad was taken in the ambulance. The mom says Joey was sick.

      • Amber...RealWife says:

        I agree the timelines are crazy. Just keep thinking these scenes were edited over a few weeks and several hospital stays. Tre wouldn’t let a false act or claim of kindness/compassion go unchecked. EVER. Her bloodlust is consuming.

      • Becky Grey says:

        As far as I know, in the state of NJ there are no limited use license. Correct me if I’m wrong.

        • melthehound says:

          It looks like it depends on the conviction.. IF it’s for a DWI for example, in NJ, then the suspension is total. No driving at all regardless of circumstance (work, religious observance, etc). His suspension time for that particular crime (S2?) may have passed but not before he used his brother’s documents to get a license.

        • Exit4 says:

          There is not. But the DUI was 4 years ago. It’s not even on record anymore. (In jersey it only stands for 3 years-so if he got another DUI it would only be considered a first offense, even though its technically his second).

    • realhousewifeva says:

      In her blog, Melissa says:

      `To the best of my recollection, this was what actually happened, and when on Sunday at 3:00 AM, my mother-in-law called us to say Joe’s father couldn’t breathe. Joe didn’t hesitate. He got up, and rushed to the hospital. `

      When someone seems forgets so much, they are lying. And notice she made sure not to say Joe took his dad to the hospital, just that he rushed there. Why would they wait for little Joey to come if his dad couldn`t breathe? Obviously they called an ambulance like normal people do and Melissa needs to stop lying so much because she can`t keep her lies straight anymore.

      • melthehound says:

        You don’t have to remember the truth.. It just is. Lies are multi – layered and keeping track of who you told what, who is talking to who, has to be exhausting. Even ‘white’ lies. So much easier to say ‘yeah, I didn’t go until he was getting better (or at all)’ and be done with it. None of them seem to be able to do that though.

      • cusi77 says:

        “If you want to know the SIZE of a LIE, just measure the length of the explanation by the width of the excuse”

    • plainviewsue says:

      Teresa’s mom said the ambulance took her father. I tend to believe Nonna.

    • chismosa says:

      Amber LOVE all your points and I too keep screaming at the TV WHY IS JOE GUICE-y driving???!!!!!

      I loved the slip in about JoGo having taken his dad to the hospital


  7. Amalfi says:

    I wonder what Melissa’s sisters and Joey’s cousin Kathie feel when Joey calls Caroline the sister he never had.

    Not just a slam on Teresa at all.

    • melthehound says:

      They’re probably pleased as punch 🙂

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      So ironic that this Caroline is the same person that Teresa said was family and Joey went vein popping ballistic about….

    • Powell says:

      That sounds to me that Joey is giving a dig to Tre or a taste of her own medicine cause the season before the Gorgas came on Tre to Caro, Jac they were her family.

  8. cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Everyone! Thank you MTH, You made this Episode way better than it was! This could have been “The lost footage” in several scenes, at least!

    The Pig is my new favorite, next to The Camel in Morocco!!! There is around a cartoon of Caroline overweight and if you put a red hair wig on the piggy’s head… TA, TA! Caroline’s cartoon!

    I dislike KimD or F, G… or whatever! Who wants to be friends with her? Raise your hands Ladies and gents!!! What a way to destroy a party FULL of KIDS!!!!!!

    • Amalfi says:

      I want to know why everyone apologizes to that horrible Kim, turns a blind eye to her constant pot stirring — and why everyone keeps on her good side (at least to her face).

    • melthehound says:

      Thank you Cusi, I agree with you on everything. Hand down to being friends with anyone on these shows named Kim.

      The pig is my new favorite too.. At least they can’t make him be anything other than a pig.

      • cusi77 says:

        Haaa! A pig is a pig… you can put lipstick on a pig, it will be still a pig! ~Caroline Manzo Season 2

        • cusi77 says:


        • melthehound says:

          😆 Hehe

          I can always count on youse all to fill in my blanks here 😉

          • cusi77 says:

            Haa! I prefer to discuss the pig any time than The Wakiles , Tersa, Melissa and Momz!

            • melthehound says:

              Maybe Bravo should make the pig a part of the regular show. I don’t know if you ever saw the old show, ‘Green Acres’ but the best part of that show sometimes was Arnold, the pig. They need to change this pig’s name though and perhaps give him an outfit like those that Giggy wears…

            • Orson says:

              Yeah, but how am I going to tell when someone mentions the pig if they’re talking about Richie, Juicey, or the 4 legged one?

  9. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Maybe Melissa should have eggmitted she didn’t go to the hospital right away b/c she had a sore throat…these Jersey people can’t eggmit to anything!!!

    • melthehound says:

      I doubt that would have averted any of the drama but it would have been worth a try…

    • cusi77 says:

      Then Papa Gorga was in and out of the Hospital several time… who knows? She was not lying … just stretching the truth! At this point I am not pro anyone! Put so much time the kids on the show is Exploitation… No one is innocent, but Momz! (Considering the emotional age of her kids… perhaps… she is guilty of the same!)

    • chismosa says:

      I heard her say that was the reason, like 4x last night. That she didnt want to go SICK to the hospital. I must have been hearing things

    • Powell says:

      OMG JNNTJ. I love it when you say eggmit. 🙂

      • chismosa says:

        Powell did you catch Teresa’s new one last night: God REMISS something happens

        (God forbid)

        Rotfl 😆😆

  10. lizzle says:

    Good morning! I am finally caught up on all three episodes of NJ. I have very strong opinions about it, so I am going to try and sympathize a little bit with a couple of cast members I would normally want to rip apart. I still dislike Melissa, but I have noticed that she seems depressed and I give her props for taking the kids to hang out with Teresa’s kids. Joey needs to put his big boy pants on and stand strong with Melissa for the kids. He also needs a Xanax prescription to ease his anger impulse. Those two don’t seem as united this season and that is surprisingly a bit sad to see.

    Another big surprise is that I find myself liking Kathy a bit more. I think she is about done with her husband’s antics and she is starting to see the BS that Melissa spews which eventually becomes a part of the Guidice/Gorga drama. She is seeing that Melissa isn’t innocent and she isn’t afraid to call it out anymore. I feel like something happened between last season and this one with Kathy and Melissa. Richie is still disgusting… and Kathy sees it. Maybe the things that have played out on twitter between Richie and some women have also disgusted Kathy. She knows that the degrading of women isn’t cool. Like the comments he made about his daughter’s college friends and their meal cards.

    Another pleasant surprise is that Momz isn’t that bad this season. She seems happier. I think it is the new apartment… sometimes a simple change can brighten ones life. It has happened to me. So… yay Momz! Last season I couldn’t stand her at all!

    Well, I don’t want to write a novel (nor do I want to keep saying “surprise”)… so I will end it here. I also want to say Happy Birthday to all that I missed. I have been very behind on reading the blog. I like to read the blog and all the comments, so I just caught up with that too! Now I have to catch up on my cleaning! Much love to all of you…. xoxo

    • Amalfi says:

      i am going to agree that Caroline is less donnish. Jac has taken her shrieking banshee place in my heart.

    • Exit4 says:

      I thought the same about Kathy. I believe Kathy’s mom is upset with the situation, it’s put a rift between her and her own brother (papa Gorga) and Kathy wants to make it right for her mom.

      I don’t know if Melissa is depressed, but it’s got to burn her that this didn’t go her way. I think she expected to become the star if the show and bring Teresa down and it hasn’t happened. Her music career didn’t take off, it will be interesting to see what happens with the book. Even people who didn’t much like Teresa, feel sympathy for her because it wasn’t Danielle or some other “character” bringing her down-it was her family. Her only brother. Who I actually blame for this more then Mel. Who knows? Maybe joes famewhoring is actually on her last nerve! This is supposed to be Melissa’s show! Not joes! Lol

      • mrs peabody says:

        I see a very defensive Melissa in her talking heads. I think we are seeing the afterglow of all the negative thinks that are being said about her in the blogs and twitter and where ever else people post and she can’t handle it and she’s pissed. You can just tell in some of her mannerisms when she doing her talking heads. I agree she thought she was going to be the star and a famous rock star. Well that’s not happening and she has taken a lot of flak from the last time they were filming and up to this filming. I think she has finally realized she is not well liked and she’s not used to that. She can’t pull the wool over our eyes, there are just to many smart people out there and they see through her. I think Kathy also is feeling that effect. I think it’s dawning on them they have just made Teresa more popular with their own actions. As far as Jac and her comments about Gia’s party, sounds like to me she was mad she wasn’t invited (and who would invite her, not me if I were Teresa). It amazes me that it’s been what over a year since they all interacted with each other and Teresa is still the topic of all their conversations, don’t any of these people have a life outside of Teresa. Sounds like Teresa is the only one who made an attempt to try to move on at all, the rest of them are still mad at her. GET OVER IT.

        • melthehound says:

          I think you’re right, Mrs Peabody. 100%.

        • chismosa says:

          Or…… Producers editing / egging on certain answers so all we see on screen THs are Ter(ror)-related agitations. Which are agitations worthy enough if you ask me.

    • melthehound says:

      Oddly, I’m finding Momz less offensive. She’s still putting her 43¢ where it doesn’t belong but she’s not completely preaching to any of them (not Completely). I’ve never liked MeGo and Kathy and her sister are like watching paint dry. I don’t feel sorry for any of them though. At season 5 and several other franchises in the can, each and every one of these people knows what they signed up for. Even the newbies on other shows,

      • seagirl45 says:

        ITA, Jeff! I like the Momz we’re seeing so far. NJ is in desperate need of a likeable cast member, so here’s hoping she can keep it up. (Tho I have my doubts.)

        p.s. Thanks for the awesome recaps!

      • lizzle says:

        I forgot to say that I love your recaps, MTH… I bet it hard to stay that neutral with these ladies. I couldn’t do it…no way.

        • melthehound says:

          You know what, Lizzle, It’s actually easier than I thought would be. I just decide they are all full of it and go from there 😉 Glad you enjoy the recaps.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Lizzle, no disrespect intended, but…hellooooo…the Don is trying to sell a book, ya see?….of course she’s better this season. I’m not feelin’ it or believin it. There is a BIG ULTERIOR MOTIVE hanging overhead everytime I look at her. (gotta have my eyes checked asap, I know.) 🙂

      • seagirl45 says:

        Hmmmm, good point. I’m way too gullible.

      • lizzle says:

        LOL… no disrespect taken…. I just think it is hard to fake happiness for a book. But I totally understand your side eye. I do believe her wanting to get involved in Joey’s business is about the book. A book and a storyline… cause she hasn’t had one besides getting in other people’s business for the last five seasons.

    • Powell says:

      But I don’t understand HER wanting an apt to be closer to lids that have moved out. They moved out & not in the fascinate of their family home so it seems to me they wanted that distance. She said something in her blog about Kathy having to cope w/her kids growing up & moving away. It seems to me that MomZ wasn’t/isn’t coping. It also seems to be another slap in Lauren’s face that she wants to be w/her boys & not her daughter.

  11. Exit4 says:

    Melissa threw a fit because Teresa and joe didn’t come to the hospital for baby Joey. Or teresa did, just not on mels timeline. Joe waited until they came home. (The infamous “did you acknowledge your nephew?” fiasco.) Melissa was salty because Gia had a gymnastics meet and wasn’t at the church for little joeys christening. She went to the reception, but that wasn’t enough.

    So now papa Gorga went to the hospital and Melissa didn’t show up within some predetermined timeline and lied about it. And not well! So, I think Teresa gave Melissa a little taste if her own medicine there. Hence why these 2 will never get along!!

    • Amalfi says:

      i am pretty sure giving melissa a taste of her own medicine means seeing her own faults — which neither of those two will ever do.

    • melthehound says:

      These two will never get along… I’m with Orson here. Not going to happen because neither one will ever let go of anything. I believe they are telling us ‘they are good’ so we’ll keep watching to see what happens. By reunion time, they will be at each other’s throats again.

    • Rebecca says:

      Why didn’t she just say then and there when questioned that she wasn’t well enough to visit her father-in-law right away? Nobody could have argued with that? Stop lying already!

      • melthehound says:

        When she had to change her story almost in mid sentence, Hallmark of a Liar Liar Drawrs On Fire. I think she does it so much in these situations, she doesn’t even realize she’s doing it. That’s the only benefit of the doubt I’ll give her, on her story.

        • Rebecca says:

          She never grew out of the “lie first, think layer” mentality that five year olds go through.

  12. Orson says:

    Re: the photo of M’s daughter and FIL in the hospital? Grampa’s been in the hospital several times and it was taken after he was released from icu or cicu but still recovering. I guess it was posted as evidence he sees all his grandchildren.

    • melthehound says:

      …. and who knows if it was even during this cycle of the show.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Jac took down the pic. It’s been proven that it was not taken when he had pneumonia.

      • plainviewsue says:

        So Jac trying to help her BFFL backfired.

        Jac’s blog is so tiresome. How lucky for her that she can post every service she gets for Nick so she can get it probably for free or discounted.

        It makes me sick.

        • melthehound says:

          That made me laugh that it was taken down… Didn’t believe it when I first saw it, considering the source (especially).

  13. princesspindy says:

    Great Job Jeff, you are a trooper!!!!
    I thought last night’s episode was boooringgg.. A kid’s birthday party, just shoot me….I don’t like the term “Skinny Bitches”, that pissed me off… ……that kid took his father’s car, REALLY, my kids don’t even LOOK at their father’s Corvette, I can’t even imagine them THINKING about driving it….I don’t even sneak it out of the garage, although I tease him that I do when he is out of town but I would hate if I scratched it, I wouldn’t want to see a grown man cry, lol!!!! Tre’s daughters need to come to Princess Pindy’s Bootcamp and learn some respect and manners because again, my kids would never talk to me like that, OMG!!!! My daughter asked me the other day when we were Toddlers &Tiaras and the little girl was an awful brat, “did I ever do that”, I just laughed and said, “Umm, no, ya gotta get them early, cuz just imagine that kid at 13.” That was my biggest fear, a 13 year old girl, and I was determined not to have an eye rolling, tsking, wildabitch as a daughter!!!!
    HospitalGate (credit to Lainey) WHO THE PHUCK CARES, JUST STOPPING LYING, ALLA YAS!!!
    These people are so narcissistic and stupid, I just can’t EVEN!!!

    • princesspindy says:


    • Amalfi says:

      You should make your PrincessPindy Bootcamp/Etiquette with the Princess classes a Mommy and Me deal.

      • Amalfi says:

        *ps invite Antonia (if I evercalled my mom poopyhead…ohhhhh, even if she deserved it let’s say, it would be bad for me), Ashley and Lauren too…. Victoria has enough on her plate with her pervy dad so she can be excused.

        • princesspindy says:

          It is my belief that you should never threaten a child, wtf was that with the chile peppers??? You don’t threaten, you do, lol!! That way they know if you just look at them, like in the movie Dirty Harry, did she shoot 4 bullets or 5, do I feel lucky??? LOL! I have been known to shut a kid up in Target just by giving them “The Look”, hee hee, It’s actually the parents that are the problem, and I have a special child that did not want to listen, they want it more than you do. They just need to know their boundaries. And IPPHO you start off with those boundaries very tight and firm and as they learn and can be trusted to behave you loosen up. But these parents just let the little ones do stuff cuz “it’s cute”, they are allowing patterns to form that are very difficult to change….. I loved my son’s 2nd grade teacher her motto was:
          Tame them, train them, then you can teach them. I use to love to substitute teach for her class, they were so well behaved!!!

          • melthehound says:

            My parents never threatened ( because once the threat doesn’t happen, it doesn’t work) nor did they promise. They Did. There was no bargaining or pleading about it either. Only after whatever it was had happened, “See there what happens when you do (fill in the blank here)? Don’t do it again… “.. Usually worked but they had to keep after it.

            • princesspindy says:

              LOL!! Same!! I always tell my kids, Yes, No, and if I am not sure “We’ll see” and years ago I heard one say to the other, “She said, “we’ll see, that means no”, lol!! My Mom use to always say, “See, God is punishing you.” I have never said that to my kids, been tempted, but I haven’t. I liken kids to the Raptors in Jurassic Park, the Raptors are banging against the enclosure and the guy asks, “what are they doing?” and he answers “looking for a way out” and here is the answer, it’s soo good:
              Dr. Ellie Sattler: But the fences are electrified though, right?

              Muldoon: That’s right, but they never attack the same place twice. They were testing the fences for weaknesses, systematically. They remember.
              And that’s sums it up perfectly!!!!!!!!

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            The chilli pepper thing is serious and should not be used. Some idiot here in So Calw ho was watching her boyfriends 2 year old did it and the child ended up dying.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Yeah, make your bootcamp!! please!! I’ll send my husband’s niece to you. That’s why Gia seems completely normal to me…cause my niece is exactly like her. The tone, the little knowing look in her eye like she’s thinking “I know way more about life (esp sex) than you think I do”, the patronizing amused look when adults are speaking. She is exactly like that. Makes me wonder if that’s a thing with this current generation. My girl didn’t do that. I didn’t do that (just like you Pindy, and Beanie Boo). So anyways she’s not my kid she’s my brother-in-law’s daughter and she has two sets of parents that need to do their job, so I just love my niece through it all and try try try not to criticize her because she really loves me and seems super happy when we’re together; but woweee she has got some attitude. But I love her very, very much and it’s a challenge, but I just accept who she is and just make sure that there’s no cussing when I’m around. This Gia thing Reminds me a lil bit of the situation with Ashley, they kept putting the camera on her as a minor child and shining her less than perfect behavior (for lack of a better word) for all to see and to freely criticize (and call her names). It just broke my heart, really. I hope the same doesn’t happen to Gia. But you know, why won’t it? Why would it happen to Ashley and not to Gia?? Tre, beware. Don’t let this show hurt your babies!!!!!!

    • melthehound says:

      Thank you Princess 🙂

  14. Oy! I am always sad to see the excess these girls (Theresa’s girls) have! If you give them this when they are 12, what will you give them when they are 16, 18, 21??? Gia has highlights and fake nails. She is a BEAUTIFUL girl, but little girls who get everything they could ever want tend to end up being not so nice big girls.
    If Mel was sick, I will eat my shoe. That BE-otch was not in the little bit sick…maybe she looked sick because she wasn’t wearing all that eye liner. If she proclaims her LOVE of Joe’s family, then her caboose should have been at the hospital to offer her love and support. And then to lie about it…that is super sick!
    As for the hyperbaric chamber, I have heard wonderful things about this item for kids on the spectrum. Helps improve brain function and focus. Unfortunately, this is a very expensive items so most people (like me) don’t have access to this type of therapy. Maybe this little bit of exposure will show how important this form of therapy is for our kids.
    And Caro’s house is turning into a petting zoo. It is kinda gross and I would not be willing to allow my sister to move in and then treat my home like a farm. Yuck. Still don’t understand why Mama Manzo got an apartment in Hoboken…besides their need to be up the boys’ butts.

    • melthehound says:

      Thank you for the info on the chamber. I forgot what it was called when I wrote the recap.. As I said, if it works, great.. It’s a shame that more don’t have easy access to it. I read somewhere that they cost something like $100k or in that neighborhood. Maybe it’s just me but if it’s purpose is an oxygen chamber, it seems that one could be built in home for a lot less but there is probably a lot more to it than that. I don’t know a lot about it though.

      I don’t know what type of young women pre-teen girls who are given everything turn into. I’ll take your word for it though as I never really want to know 😉 The petting zoo (good name for it), no real words other than, the pig is still my favorite.

      • pat says:

        I didn’t watch the show but saw porky in a preview, and he is adorable! I would totally watch if they added him to the cast.

      • Orson says:

        “I don’t know what type of young women pre-teen girls who are given everything turn into.”
        You’ve never seen Princesses Long Island, I guess?

        • melthehound says:

          Half of each episode so far… IF that’s what they turn into, my daughters would never see any of that type of stuff until they could buy it for themselves (with a job)… Lucky for them, I guess, that I don’t have daughters 😉

        • YES! Those are the girls that were given everything in their childhood…anyone see Erica call her mom to tell her about a super hot guy last night? BARF!

          • pat says:

            I thought that was Ashlee, but I don’t have the names down. The one who had to be carried out of the nail salon because she can’t (won’t) wear flip flops or any flat shoes. Only heels, and that includes her slippers.

          • melthehound says:

            Was it Erica or was it Ashleeeeeee (the one who won’t be seen without heals on 🙄 )? Either way, I wish that guy had pushed her off of the bench.

            • pat says:

              hahaha!!! I think it was Ashleeeee. That girl is a TRIP. Calling daddy to tell him she met a guy five seconds ago, oh, and he’s sitting right there next to her hearing all of this. Yikes.

      • The chamber in their home was probably significantly cheaper that a hospital grade chamber…still out of my budget though! 🙂
        And take the word form us ladies, we know how “mean girls” are bred and Theresa’s home seems to be prime breeding ground for this!
        I am shocked that Caro would allow her beautiful home (yes, it is beautiful!) to be inhabited by her sister’s crew. Not the kinda place I would wanna have Christmas Eve dinner at (read her book…she goes into great detail!)
        Oh, and I forgot to mention…WTF was wrong with Mel and the all the hair product on those boys? Is there an excess of product in NJ? I am in OH so maybe I just don’t know this. I have twin 15 year olds that have not used that much product in their LIFETIME! GROSS!
        Keep up the good work Mel! I am enjoying your blogs

        • melthehound says:

          It seems the jury is out on the effectiveness of the chamber from the comments I’ve read here. I’d wager that as each kid is different, so too is what will help him/her. I get the feeling that Jac is trying things based on internet advice alone. Further, that she would rub the kid with a polished turd if someone said it worked and she thought it would help.

          I’ll take your word on the breeding of mean girls. Never bred one but have encountered a few 😉

          Product, I was thinking the same thing, She’s going to give that kid cancer before he’s 6 with all that crap in his face.

    • princesspindy says:

      She needs her boys, they are her life…my cold dark heart is feeling the tiniest bit sorry for her….ittt bitty, tiny whiny..

      • Yes, she does but that perpetuates the theory that Caro never really liked Lauren…. I did read her book though. Because I can’t say no. Again, RHONJ, I just can’t quit you! (I also have Theresa’s books from the library…I ain’t giving that girl a dime!)

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      Gia is clearly in the throws of puberty – her parents are stupid, don’t know anything and are a huge embarrassment. This is the time when Gia figures out who she is and who she wants to be. I am not shocked by the nails, the highlights, etc – remember when Teresa had Audrianna and posted a picture of her with itty, bitty hooker heels? Nough said.

    • lillybee says:

      Even Kathy appeared to doubt Mel’s sore throat excuse.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      you are so funny…it is all about BUTBB – being up the boys’ butts. totally. And selling her cockamamie book. The problem with The Don is that she says one thing but does another. So who cares what she says in the book,…she most likely again only wants to talk the walk…not walk the walk. BUTBB. so good.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Gia is a lot like my niece. It’s this generation. Kids today are more like Gia than not. This is based onMy observation in my real life. I was not raised that way. My daughter wasn’t either, but my niece is just like Gia . I saw nothing terribly unusual with any of the kiddos. But remember I teach and I have lots and lots of patience with other people’s children. My own children remind me of Mel’s kids. SO well behaved with an occasional slip from time to time. The difference is Mel seems really sweet to them. I was mean. Stern strict at times unbending. My kids were kinda afraid of me. As they got older, I eased up little by little. By the time they were in high school i just let them be…they had lots of freedom and had the ability to automatically make decent choices. I trusted and respected them because they survived Sargent Mean Lainey. I do regret that I was such a hard ass when they were little. But its Too late. I really don’t think any of them the NJ kids are bad or troubled. YET. What will this public exposure do to them? Kathy’s, Mel’s and Tre,’s kids all seem ok to me. The online criticism is inevitable, and I think that could hurt them. I hope not, but who knows, it’s like they are guinea pigs of reality. What will happen. Hmmmmmm….watch what happens.

  15. Donna says:

    o.O :/ It that the same car that was Rosie’s chick magnet. In this episode it was Rich’s car then Kathy’s car…..

  16. jezzibel says:

    a funny take on RHONJ

  17. Donna says:

    I see I am in moderation, I mis-spelled my e-mail

    o.O :/ It that the same car that was Rosie’s chick magnet. In this episode it was Rich’s car then Kathy’s car…..

  18. Mene Seela says:

    MTH I read (most of) your recap. Thank you. I don’t watch this show but I do enjoy reading about Teresa and Joe. Teresa reminds me of a my friend who is also Italian from NJ.

    The funny thing is that I started mentally replacing the “Gorga” and “Guidice” teams with the names of poltical parties and suddenly the entire recap sounds like Cross-Fire.

    Just a bunch of squabbling poorly behaved tattle-tales and fibbers having trantrums.

    • melthehound says:

      You’re welcome.. However you get your NJ fix is fine. I’m laughing at the political party reference, I think you have nailed it. The only question remaining is which camp goes with which party. Like actual political parties, I think they are all worthless but, fun to watch 😉

  19. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I’m just gonna say that if I let my sister live in my house and I came home and saw that big ugly pig on my front lawn..nah it would never happen-my sisters all know me well enough to know that pigs would fly before I would ever down with that!!!

  20. windycitywondering2 says:

    This season we will be treated to new ladies so Teresa has someone to talk to after the last reunion. The rest of the cast has to figure out how to make nice with Teresa after what they said and get back in her good graces. Teresa will want to fix her family first. As for Don Caro and Wacky Jacky, they can go scratch!

  21. Lulu says:

    Hello everyone!!! Oh what a day!!! Need opinions! The dryer in our rental has been broken for over 2 weeks. The management company contacted the slumlord and Mr slumlord hangs up on them at the mention of it. Prior to this two events: A photographer photographing the outside of the house a few weeks back. A neighbor said one day when she arrived home they had ALL of their belongings on the lawn. They were just giving everything away!?!?!? She asked if they were evicted but the owner said they were moving to Florida and didn’t need any of it. Now the management company is trying to find a good used dryer and hiding it under a repair expense. While I had them just send a message to him that unless we have a dryer in working order. That I demand a reduction in rent. Do you think the rental is in foreclosure??? For us that would seriously be a blessing in disguise. My DH has an interview in Washington so we may be leaving in a few months anyway. For the time being what can I do?

    MTH Love your recap!!!! Last night’s episode was soo fake and obviously out of sync. Like the scene with Kim D and Tre. Last week they were in front of the emergency room but this week they are in a cafe wearing the same clothes? It’s annoying how Bravo seems to think we are stupid. Poor Joey with his 103 fever and his fake cough! Poor Joey why oh why didn’t he call Momz to take care of him!! 😉

    I’m done with wacky jacky!! Autism can’t be cured and it’s disgusting that they are trying these stupid gimics. Embrace Nick!!! He’s adorable!!! It’s not the end of the world! Stop trying to fix him! The best they can do is work with the therapists and love him!

    • princesspindy says:

      Hey Lulu, kinda confused about whose items were out on the lawn…but I hope it all works out for you.
      As far as the “gimmicks”, as a Mom with a kid on the spectrum, I tried it ALL and would have tried more, it’s just what I did as a Mom, no stone unturned, balls to the wall, whatever I could do, including, I think I have shared this, driving to East L.A. to get the first case of caffeinated water off the warehouse docks….took my biggest friend with me, lol. I figured it anything helped even a little bit I was going to do it….you always hope that “this may be the thing that helps”, it is a roller coaster ride!

      • Lulu says:

        PP I get what you are saying. From seeing my own sister’s desperation with her son my nephew. It’s just not worth it. She would try all these “magic cures” and become even more depressed/disappointed when nothing worked. From what I see or Bravo shows is two parents overlooking a bright and adorable toddler for the next “cure.” It sickens me.

        BTW Landlord’s belongings they just decided one day to move to Florida?!?!?! It’s the oddest thing??

        • princesspindy says:

          It is depressing. That’s why my daughter thru this whole 2 years of being sick won’t let me try anything that I really want to try cuz she doesn’t want me doing it all over again with her…..she says it’s just sad and desperate and she doesn’t want me being “one of those moms” and getting my hopes up…I would have spent a small fortune by now at the natural store, but she won’t take any of the “magic cures”…I said, that’s the life of a mom, lol, sad and desperate, Hardee Har Har!!

          The landlord leaving town might be a sign…..you may not need to worry about breaking a lease!!

      • djprincessc says:

        PP, but trying to help and trying to fix your kids are different. You as a mother wanting to make things better for your child is not the same as the Lauritas making Nicholas sound damaged. You sound like a great mama 🙂

        • princesspindy says:

          Yeah they are different….I never told my son there was something wrong with him, we looked at it as he was different and who wants to be just like everyone else anyway and that everyone has their strengths and weakness….He could do 100 piece puzzles at age 3 but couldn’t sit still to save his life!! Ahhh, the good old days, lol!

    • melthehound says:

      Their wardrobe was pointed out to me last night from a friend I was watching with but I failed to mention it. That, however, is the driving force for my my ABC points in the first paragraph.

      As for the chamber, one of our Autism moms says that it does seem to help with some function but it’s so expensive that no one can afford it. I also think that Jac and Chris are going to try everything they read to be available to ‘recover’ Nicolas. Words I’ve heard her use, many times. No clear definition on what she means by that though. For the most part though, I’ve always been done with her but, she’s still fun to snark on 😉

      As to your rental situation, if the appliances are in the lease, they have to repair/replace them.

      • missusmc says:

        I just have to jump in here. I have no self control when it comes to this. Jacqueline has partnered with an organization called Talk about Curing Autism, so I think that’s all you need to know about her definition of recovery. As far as the HBOT chamber… it is actually a little controversial, because it has been touted as a “cure” for autism by many, many groups, Generation Rescue being one of them (the Jenny McCarthy endorsed organization that Jaq has also endorsed). There are many moms who swear by it, but its price tag does make it unattainable for many people (you can rent or buy. The Defeat Autism Now doctor that endorses it in my area prices it at $150 per session. He recommends giving it 40 sessions, so it’s pretty expensive). Scientific trials haven’t proven it effective, and have, in fact, warned that side effects can include burst eardrums, swollen sinuses, and seizure activity, which is what makes it so controversial, since 30-40 percent of autistic children will experience a seizure at some point in their childhood/adolescence. Personally, I would never risk it with my kids, as the risk of seizures is too high with these kiddos (and I’d rather save the money for something that is scientifically backed). I’m not faulting Jacqueline for trying this; I just wish she was more reputable, because she appears to be gaining a following, and I don’t think that people are really looking at what she is doing from all angles.

        • melthehound says:

          Jump in all you like missusmc .. I welcome it. As I’ve said, I know very little about the subject..

          • missusmc says:

            I really wish there was no need to comment on ANYTHING these women are doing with their kids. Makes me appreciate the other cities where kids are basically not featured, or are much more peripheral, like Atlanta, or Beverly Hills, so much more.

            • melthehound says:

              SInce it is mentioned or featured, I’m glad we have you moms to educate us on your real life experiences. For different reasons, I’m wishing the kids weren’t on the show so much either.

              • missusmc says:

                I fear that someday Gia will be on a VH1 celeb reality show. Or bravo will just create a new show just for all the kids once they’re of legal age. It could be called “The Discarded Remnants of Real Housewives shows,” and totally feed off of their inability to function in true reality. It will, of course, be wildly popular, but very tragic.

                • melthehound says:

                  I tend to think you’re probably correct. With Ashely leading the way. She’s coming back later in the season from what I’ve seen in preview.

                  • Orson says:

                    There’s Ashlee, Lauri’s heroin addict son, Gia, Brianna, Lauren… They could call it “Real Housewives’ Children Rehab with Dr Drew”. Ramona’s daughter probably could use an outlet for venting too.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          Hyperbaric chambers are apparently becoming big in the sports world. A friend of a friend’s son is retrofitting a bus with a couple of these chambers and is taking it to motocross and races. Racers use it to recover after a race (or something). The woman they bought the chambers from looks 50 and is something like 80, and says she sleeps in one.

          Frankly, it all sounds like hokus-pocus to me, but it’s interesting to follow these people’s project and see if they make a business of it.

          • missusmc says:

            My husband’s friend is an ortho surgeon, and HBOT is huge with recovery there. We did ask him his opinion on its use for autism, and I was surprised at how popular it is. It’s actually medically approved for use in other neurological areas, but has been repeatedly rejected for autism. I guess the extra O2 opens up the capillaries, enhancing blood flow? (As you can see, I’m certainly not in the medical field). It’s interesting, and in theory, sounds good for healing. But I don’t believe that it is a “cure” for something as pervasive as autism. And I think it can be risky. So, for me, the answer is no. I need something that is studied and studied and tested before I try it on my kids. And at that point, if it has been tested and shown to be effective, then it will be medically approved and I no longer have to worry about which organ to sell to finance it!

    • AZGirl says:

      Lulu you need to try and find out if the building is in foreclosure. From what you posted it sound like it may be. Start with the management company. If you know someone in real estate they maybe able to help you find out.

      • Rebecca says:

        Find out the name of the owner (Tax records are the fastest. Use the plat number) then go look up a court case with the name.

    • djprincessc says:

      Seriously! I don’t understand why they are trying to “FIX” him??? He doesn’t need to be fixed and they should just accept that he has a disability, its 2013 not 1970 when people with disabilities were looked down upon. I know that there are several different types of autism some worse than others and some very severe but they make it sound like he’s dying of cancer. They should be grateful that what he was diagnosed with can at least be managed. I’m sure that he will grow up and have a good life (challenging? yes) but still good.

  22. iceNfire says:

    Good Morning – WoW You guys start early after a NJ night. To me it isn’t about how/who/when the Father got/went to the hospital. In Tre’s TH she said something about getting a call at 3 in the morning and she dropped everything. Not that she had anything to drop at 3 a.m. but no she didn’t. Her brother was at the hospital at 3/4 a.m. but Tre wasn’t so the only card she had to play was calling M out for not going to the hospital in a timely manner.
    But the real problem is that Tre’s Mother, Father, Brother all have the Gorga last name and Tre doesn’t. M and her children have the Gorga name and Tre can’t handle it. Plain, simple, and stupid so it makes sense to me )

    • chismosa says:

      Love it

      And I find of kind of perturding that Teresa pushes out 4 girls (after “fertility treatments” for the last one —listed as part of the bankruptcy) and names NOT 1 after her mother ??? Who she proclaims is more important than her kids and husband? I find that very interesting or ….*telling*

      It seems in these Italian families you name after the parents and the grandparents so I find that odd

      • chismosa says:

        Ps Gianna is a beautiful name. Was one of my ‘secret’ names but has become increasingly popular so no more.
        (Gianna was the name on the vagina cake)

  23. VV says:

    Jeff, Excellent Recap. I don’t know how you do it. May the force be with you the rest of the season 😆
    This show is really on its last last last laaaasssst leg. Viewers are getting tired of the same crap over and over again.

    Is the love of Andy for the “Sedated-BitterClown” so big that this entire season she might get a good edit OR Will she snap and show her ugly true colors that no amount of edit can hide?

    • melthehound says:

      Thank you VV 🙂

      A few minutes at a time is how I do it. Unfortunately, I have to watch more than once to get it though.

    • seagirl45 says:

      VV, I was thinking the same thing…Can they squeeze another season out of this cast? When the Bravo crew finally does pack up and roll outta NJ, they’re going to be leaving one battered and bruised family behind. They were wise to at least bring on a little levity where they could. Moo Shu the pig saved it for me!! I hope we get to see more of Caroline’s sister and her rescue animals. It does also seem like Caroline has her menopausal dark side under better control, for now.

  24. Kat From Ohio says:

    I lost all patience with Joey Marco when he gave a seemingly heartfelt speech on having to patch things up with his sister lest their father died without seeing his children back together. Then, not five minutes later he refused to go to his own goddaughter’s birthday party because he “wasn’t ready for [his] sister.” This is the face of the angel from God. What a piece of shit.

    And it was especially terrible because it was Gia’s birthday–the little girl who broke down in sobs when he showed up to her gymnastics meet. The two seemed like they were impossibly close and it’s clear he doesn’t give a damn about her anymore. If he did, he would have set aside the crap with Tre and gone for the sake of his niece.

    And by the way–anyone can roll up in a blanket and whine about feeling ill when cameras are around. Doesn’t make them sick.

    • Kat From Ohio says:

      I sure as hell did that all the time in high school when I didn’t want to go.

      • princesspindy says:

        Just because you say it doesn’t make it true…Jill Z.

        LOL, in High School I use to take niacin to get out of class…it makes you all flushed…didn’t work on my mom cuz she knew but it worked well enough to go to the office for a period or 2 and rest!

        • iceNfire says:

          I wonder how they got so many 11/12 year olds to show up. After seeing what happened at a Christening I sure wouldn’t have let my kids attend if invited. Could be Joey’s absence saved that party…

          • princesspindy says:

            Are you kidding?? A chance to be on TV??? You are reasonable, not everyone is, I bet those kids were begging their parents to go!!!!

    • melthehound says:

      Couldn’t have said it better myself 🙂

    • designernailsdiana says:

      Gia is the one who cried after singing Milania the song she wrote. She just wanted her Mom and Joey to stop fighting. At 12 yrs old they hear things and they know how to form an opinion based on the one side they heard. So very sad that Gia will have this to look back on while in therapy at 30 for a nervous breakdown brought on by her parents 3rd bankruptcy and being told she can NOT have ANOTHER brand new car after totaling the last 2.

  25. realhousewifeva says:

    Does anyone even really care about all this stupid NJ family drama anymore? If people think that is interesting, they should film my extended family.. Don`t sister in laws usually hate eachother anyway? WHO CARES! I can`t stand my sis in law (my hubbys brothers wife) but when I see her it`s all fakey fake nicey nice and we go on our merry way. I never even think about her again unless there is a reason too…and our kids still stay very close. All this manufactured drama is getting oooolllldddd. And Rosie freaks out again next week? Someone really should put HER in therapy. There is something not right with her.

    And TAKE THE KIDS OFF THIS SHOW. Seriously, overkill. My daughter is Gia`s age and that is truly when they LEAST need a camera shoved in their face. Not cute. A sassy attitude might be funny to watch when it is on a 4 year old… a preteen- not so much.

    • lizzle says:

      I agree about Rosie… something’s not quite right with that one.

    • pat says:

      I’m not watching NJ, but for my stupid tv programming I’m getting pulled into Princesses of Long Island. I do at least have that distorted view of the peeps of LI balanced out with the new season of Long Island Medium. Love that show!

      • chismosa says:

        Oh god Pat– what 2 shows to judge us lawng Guyland people from! Ughhhh I’m dying !
        😐 😯

        • pat says:

          🙂 You guys don’t all have big teased hair and crazy long nails?!?! Kidding… I love Theresa. What a sweet soul, and what a gift (if you buy into that sort of thing, which I kinda do, after watching her show).

          • chismosa says:

            I saw something on the Soup last week where no one in her group of women knew who she was “communicating” with — so she turned to the sound girl/ producer on the side and asked her — it was really funny

            Her HAIR and MAKEUP. Oh my gawwwwwd. Carmela soprano was better! Haha

            But I hope she is true. We know someone from her town who said she had years-long waiting lists from before she had the show, so imagine now!

            • pat says:

              I watched that episode. I’m for sure a skeptic, with my religious upbringing, so I never want to influence anyone else in that direction. I hesitated to bring the show up. But so many people are carrying around pain over the loss of a loved one. I do think she is the real deal.

  26. iceNfire says:

    Agree! Teenage girls can be vicious and now with all this taped Gia is in for it. Maybe she is popualr girl at school now but when anyone of her classmates want ammo on her they will find it easily. Those nasty scenes of her parents…..And Tre wants to take her to a doctor to check virginity? Isn’t that some form of rape?

    • iceNfire says:

      Dammit posted in wrong place – sry

    • Laineylainey says:

      I hadn’t thought of that..her peers could have a field day.

    • djprincessc says:

      Haha Ice, it isn’t rape! I remember being a teen and my mom would say you better behave bc I’ll take you to the doctor and they can check if you’re still a virgin. My mom was born in Honduras and they have that old wives tale that the doctor “can tell” I think its an old school thing. Her sisters think the same way. Not a true tale btw. lol

  27. designernailsdiana says:

    I’ll give my quick take on the Princesses. I’ve watched all 3 episodes and quite frankly those young ladies needed to be shown the door at 21. Joey (30) is the only one who seems to be without a rich parent to fund her lifestyle. Ashlee is the one who had to be piggy backed out of the nail salon because she wouldn’t walk without her heels on. I think that was all for the cameras. Her Dad is a typical Daddy who wants his little girl to have whatever she wants. I feel she’s fairly level headed, but a bit dramatic.
    Chanel (Coco) is 28 and seems to be more traditional with her Jewish traditions. She invited all the girls to a Shabbat. She’s good friends with Casey (28) who has major issues with Erica (28) who slept with Casey’s then boyfriend back in high school or junior high. Get Over It NOW!! ugh these girls will grow up to make Bravo proud when they become the RHWO Long Island after marriage. Erica has a boyfriend, but I forget his name.
    Amanda is 27 and her boyfriend Jeff was on WWHL as the bartender last night. He was extra creepy when Amanda and her Mom were trying on bikini’s. That gave me the creeps listening to him ohh and ahh over the sexy suits they tried on. I imagined his fantasy was a Mother-Daughter 3-some. I’ll wait while you get that visual out of your mind. Ok it might take a few months! This bunch of whine boxes will have you hugging your normal 20-somethings as they leave for their apartments, FAR away from home.
    Seriously, they couldn’t be more self absorbed if they tried. Casey just couldn’t handle Erica even being in the same room with her talking. She told her to stop talking and Erica rightly so told her to never tell her to stop talking or what to do EVER. Go Erica, but please did you need to call Mommy and cry over the phone to her too?
    Ashlee was hilarious in the scene, from the 1 or 2nd episode, driving to Joey’s place in a normal neighborhood. Ashlee acted like she had just arrived in Harlem. A couch on a porch doesn’t mean the theme from Deliverance will start playing. She wanted to just help these people, like a Gucci bag or Prada shoes will help them get an instant new paint job on their house.
    Joey seems the most down to earth among the group. She’s more of a “get over yourself” thinker. She accepts her life as it is and doesn’t go looking for trouble or things to whine about.
    I’ll give Chanel credit for TRYING to have a fun weekend and sharing her traditions, but this group has some drama queens. It’s like Bad Girls Club with girls who couldn’t punch for fear of breaking a nail. Pampered much??
    I think I saw a tweet from Lori Zaslow of the Project Soulmate show we all seemed to love, but Fandy Andy didn’t cause he’s so far up Stanker’s rear end he stinks. She tweeted about Ashlee “After two strokes and living with lupus @AshleeWhite23 has been through a lot…there’s more to her than you’re seeing! #princesses” Well if Lori likes her she can’t be all that bad can she?? We shall see.
    Well that is my mini blog on the princesses. Thanks for reading!

    • pat says:

      Thanks for the mini blog, Diana! I agree with all of your reads on these girls. To me, Jeff seems like he might be a closeted gay. There is no masculine energy there at all, that I can detect, but a lot of gay mannerisms. You get that at all?

      • designernailsdiana says:

        Yes I did Pat. Maybe that’s why Fandy had him on the show last night without Amanda?

        • pat says:

          To quote Powell, “mmmm hmmm”

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Amanda was in the clubhouse audience

          • chismosa says:

            I can’t take those two. The whiny voices. Omgod I want to shoot myself
            They need to go to ENT’s to check the blockages.

            What was project Soulmate? I only saw the matchmaker from Missadvised (I liked that show) and then that other one with the long blonde hair who worked in her husband’s office — they never really aired it much— her?? Did she help munchkin with scoliosis who the people of Freeport want to burn at the stake?? I’m sure men were lining UP for her

        • princesspindy says:

          I haven’t watched, I tried but I just couldn’t….the thing about the boyfriend…I would not give someone the time of day that did that, however, I would not be around that person, on TV with that person or be friends with someone who remained friends with that person. But that is me….I have a shit list, lol!!

          • chismosa says:

            From when you were 15 Princess? Wow, that’s impressive. I love $hit lists. I’m all for grudges.

            • princesspindy says:

              Well, I didn’t have a boyfriend at 15, I’m just saying…if it were me, I am a big believer in grudges, unless they do something stupid like apologize but I have found the ones that need to never do, lol!!

    • chismosa says:

      Hi Diana just to add– because honestly I could go ON and On and onnnnnnnnnnn about these $hitty princesses from my area

      —I think Erica has the shakes. Big time. And speaking so fast >>>>acting like she’s on cocaine???>>>>taking the Adderall last night
      Girl’s got problems.

      –Chanel? Why are you named Chanel? Your father is clearly foreign– persian/israeli, something —is this even her real name? How lame is that!?! Cheeeeeeesy. That’s a teacup poodle’s name
      Plus she apparently went to HS with the “south shore” girls so she is a “newbie” to the north shore.

      • pat says:

        Yeah, looks like an intervention is in Erica’s future. I was going to ask about the Adderall. I know it’s for ADD, and supposedly it’s also being abused as an appetite suppressant. What was Erica doing with it? Looked like she was trying to get her drunk boyfriend to take one. I wondered why. Maybe it keeps you awake?

        • chismosa says:

          I heard its the new “cocaine”. Easier to get, similar results. I think it’s for ADD?

          She needs to calm down No wonder the father is always like “Erica no wine”

      • designernailsdiana says:

        Oh I forgot about the adderall. See how well I paid attention.

      • Catseye says:

        Ha, ha. Actually one of my Toy Poodles IS named Chanel. Funny.

  28. Rebecca says:

    Here’s my opinionated take on the crapfest…

    I bet Nonno Gorga worked his ass off to support his family and went way put of his way to help his extended family to achieve the American dream. I think Teresa takes this to mean the rest of the family owes him a mountain of respect and this applies to her as well. I bet Juicy is like this too. He did his duty to his extended family and demands respect (and for people to look the other way when he screws up because he “deserves” it).

    Now Joey is the boy and the baby and has been given all kinds of shortcuts to make a good living. (Note that this is all tanking as he is alienating his main support group.) He has to face that he can’t make it without help. Melissa is NOT helping with this. They are both too arrogant to eggmit this.

    Kathy refuses to admit that Nonno Gorga was of any help to her father. We saw her refute that Juicy helped his family learned to flip houses but Richie did NOT when Juicy said it. Teresa will continue to dismiss Kathy until she shows the proper respect. Calling Nonno Gorga a coward on national tv was disgusting and unforgivable.

    Bottom line is, there are too many inflexible, boneheads (cappadostos) in this fambly. If they actually sat in a room together without cameras, their mothers could crack some heads and end this stupid fambly feud from hell.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Cappadost-disgraziat’-scustumada ….take your pick-they all fit this NJ crew!!!

    • iceNfire says:

      Hi Rebecca – I was expecting you to be more opinionated…iirc you were gonna be translating for T all season. Was that you or am I getting people mixed up again?

      • Rebecca says:

        I can translate when I watch but I only caught the tail end last night. I don’t think my hotel room has bravo so Tre-speak will have to wait.

  29. lillybee says:

    Who is ready for the OC mini marathon tonight?

  30. AZGirl says:

    Good afternoon everyone! THANK YOU MEL THE HOUND/JEFF! Great recap. I will try and watch tonight if I am not out by the pool watch “cujo” 🙂

    I think Mel is a snake. She is destroying Gorga family. I bet a bottom dollar that Joey and Mel have a “business” relationship now with Bravo filming. Obviously they are in need of the money. Mel is using Joey and vice a versa. It is really sad how blind Joey is to what Mel is doing to his family.
    Why don’t we see Joey working? What does he do for a living? Building? When?
    What DIL would not go and visit her FIL at the hospital. Selfish brat.

    • Powell says:

      The only husband I’ve actually seen work is Albert.

      • Laineylainey says:

        Simon worked for a little while. But yeah, Al probably says ” f this I’m going to work.” Bawby!!! He worked like a dog too…the poor guy.

  31. boston02127 says:

    If the events following Tamra Barney**’s weekend wedding to Eddie Judge** are any indication of what’s to come, the Orange County Housewife has reason for concern.

    In Touch can reveal that earlier today- only two days after the reality star wed in a Dana Point, Calif. ceremony on Saturday- “her wedding ring designer Brian Hassine was robbed at gunpoint at his store, Nuggets & Carats, in Mission Viejo,” a source close to the bride reveals. “He designed Tamra’s wedding ring and Eddie’s wedding band.”

    But that’s not all! “Tamra borrowed $250,000 in jewelry from him to wear at her wedding,” the insider says. It’s unclear whether or not the loaner jewels made it back to the shop before it was robbed.

    The couple’s nuptials took place at the stunning St. Regis Monarch Beach Resort in front of more than 100 guests, including RHOOC cast members Gretchen Rossi**, Vicki Gunvalson** and Alexis Bellino**.

    The 45-year-old bride, who has been married twice before, chose three different dresses for her big day and an eyewitness called the ceremony “elegant and beautiful.”

    “All she wanted was this big, fairy-tale wedding, and now it’s come true,” a friend of the couple shared.

    • Powell says:

      Well for his sake I hope she was late returning the jewelry so maybe that was not in the robbery.

    • djprincessc says:

      Sucks bc thats the Resort I want to get married at when I get married.

  32. princesspindy says:

    Busy day today!! Used my power paint spray gun for the first time, WOWZA!! I also started the swimming season today, oh it was wonderful!!!! Going out to do a second light coat of primer in a little while….I am so glad my hubby is out of town, I don’t think his heart could take what I am doing in the garage, lol!! I told him to put the Corvette in the driveway for a few days, it will be fine, lol…gawd, a car alarm just went off and scared me to death, thank goodness it wasn’t his car!!! Hopefully his baby won’t get stolen, hahahaha!!! Gotta get everything done so I can watch OC tonight….what is this mini marathon???

  33. chismosa says:

    I really can’t believe it but I really think I may have been the one to first coin Caro as the Don. I didn’t like her S1 and saw right through her. I wish I could get to the appropriate site where we were with Lynn at that time to confirm but I think it could have been me! Hubpages? I’m going to fish around one day.

    Well bad news for the Don-haters/not-likers—– next Sunday looks like she’ll be fake smiling her way on WWH with all 3 kids, not just the beloved boys. I can’t stand her fake eye-smiles. Ughhhhhh. Vomit vomit vomit
    “It’s all in the book Andy Cohen”. “We’ll have to wait and see Andy Cohen”

    Maybe Lauren will be “unveiling” her new look though girl you don’t look that different to me! Her face looks the same on wnatever news thing I saw her on recently, meaning recent-time.

    I can’t wait for Newlyweds tonight — Tina’s father has some young girlfriend. I think it’s a ploy to show Tina how he doesn’t like her husband

    • BB says:

      Chismosa, if I’m not mistaken, I think Tina’s dad marries the girlfriend. Lot’s of older men cannot stay single for long when they become widowed. My mom had widowers coming out of the woodwork wanting to get married when she became a widow. She married one of them and outlived him too. After he died, she had another one wanting to marry her. She turned him down, but they still “keep company.”

      • chismosa says:

        I like that “keep company” — hmmm, wink wink! 😉 😉

        I guess… It just seems like Tina was close to her father and never heard of this woman before. LOVE that she’s not Indian so he can’t hold that against Tina anymore about Tarz.

        I get it– men, I feel especially, need the companionship. Women are the stronger sex after all. 🙂
        But I’m sure it goes both ways

        • chismosa says:

          Ps I think the Newlyweds are on WWH next week

          • designernailsdiana says:

            My Dad is a widower and I don’t think any woman could keep up with him. He’s hilarious. I posted a video of him mowing the lawn when he hit the rock. I had just decided to video him rather than take pictures. One eye one dimmed eye and he can barely see, but he MUST mow the grass.

      • pat says:

        I’m in a club where there are ladies who are of an age to be dealing with this issue, and it’s so true. Many men want to hook right back up with another spouse, when theirs passes on. And so many of these older ladies are no longer into that. They are tired of taking care of a man. Girls just wanna have fun! 😉

  34. boston02127 says:

    Guess who’s tweet this is:
    Writing an executive summary what are you up to?

  35. Powell says:

    You have to look at E!. They will be showing Tamra & Eddie’s wedding.

    • TexasTart says:

      Ha! Come to think of it, I never had a dog that liked a bath.

      • BB says:

        I have one that loves baths (as long as I’m the one bathing him). He really does. If I start filling the tub he comes running. I usually get him professionally groomed though because I won’t do the clipping/trimming he needs. He doesn’t like that He’ll also get into the pool if I’m in there. He likes for me to pull him around on the float.

  36. chismosa says:

    Question for the moms here —- if Kim Trashian- gave birth 4-5 weeks early and baby was under 5 lbs does that mean it would have been like 9/10 pounder had she gone full-term?
    (Conspiracies of course about the timing/ forcing of this birth right now)

    Thanks, if anyone sees this

    • TexasTart says:

      Can’t address the mom question, but I was instantly suspect that KK could have a doctor bring on an early delivery to spare her body further damage….and I use that word on the account it is the overly self-absorbed KK. Hopefully a nanny will raise this child!

      • Nancy says:

        I think she was afraid that Princess Kate would steal her glory.
        That’s a horrible thing to say but that’s how I feel.

        • BB says:

          I’m glad she went ahead and did it then, so Kate won’t have any thunder stolen from her when she has her baby. Hopefully all the hoopla will be over by then. Do you think Kanye will ever put a ring on it? I’m betting not.

      • chismosa says:

        I agree – and Kanye happened to be in town and she’s gaining all this weight. Plus she could get a tummy tuck and stuff at the same time, etc
        Sorry but they’re monsters that family. It’ll be all nannies

        I agree Nancy too — below — I said that the other day here.

      • Amalfi says:

        TT – I heard similar theories about other moms opting to deliver early – like Bethenney Frankel – in order to not endure the final month which wreaks the most havoc on the body. True or not? I don’t know and hope not. Would hope no mom could even fathom choosing vanity over the preciously important final month of her child’s development.

        • chismosa says:

          Well I suppose we can say we saw Bethenny’s water break on TV because they showed us that…..
          Though otherwise with her body issues I wouldn’t put it past her

    • BB says:

      Not necessarily.

    • pat says:

      It’s actually what I wondered, too, sorry to say. That is apparently how some of those hollywood types get their bodies back so quickly after giving birth. They have the baby early, by c-section or induced labor.

      • chismosa says:

        Pat that is seriously so disturbing to me.
        But I believe it

        These women have access to being able to have plastic surgery post baby (Mariah?), the best trainers, chefs. Just utter craziness
        Plus I think the public likes you more if it seems you lost the weight back by yourself …..

        I always thought Kim Zolciak had lipo after her first boy. But I thought you can’t have a tummy tuck and then get pregnant after? I find everything about the “Kims” suspect. Lol

  37. Nancy says:

    Go Chicago Blackhawks!!! (sorry boston but your team has some dirty players) 😦

  38. Powell says:

    5 bridesmaids & groomsmen. Heather & Vicki-bridesmaids. The kids are at tge ceremony. 3-Mark Zunina gowns. Heather sings. It airs Sept 2nd. I’m still not watching.

  39. Powell says:

    E!-NeNe said she has 4 wedding gowns & hopes to wear all 4. WTF??? I get 2 & like 2 but 4? She’s gonna be doing nothing but changing clothes all day/night. And not just gowns. Shoes, jewelry. DAMN!

    • Orson says:

      She’s just keepin’ it real.

    • chismosa says:

      So I know the consensus that a lot of you here feel is that Nene and Greg did not really divorce.
      Sooooo- my question then is- didnt she admit she DID date that Italian guy (I don’t think he was Italian) – the pizza franchise guy? I know she side swept the question a lot but then I think did say out loud that she dated him

      So she and Greg really were split up?

      • Orson says:

        Maybe they were on a ‘break’?

      • designernailsdiana says:

        Ummm do we really care if they were divorced or not? Its Bravo after all, the liars network!

      • Powell says:

        I thought it was a “planned” divorce because of Greg’s financial problems.

        • chismosa says:

          Ok just wondering thanks ^^^^^^

          Because for some reason I feel last season she finally admitted she DATED that guy when she never had actually used those words

  40. BB says:

    I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions and theories about what causes cancer, but why slam Angelina Jolie’s personal decision?

    • ladebra says:

      Not cool. *shrug* if my doctor told me I had 87 % chance of getting breast or ovarian cancer I would make the same decision.

    • Sus says:

      While I’m not one of them, I have read that some breast cancer survivors are annoyed at everyone calling Angelina brave for making the decision for a mastectomy. She already had breast implants and she was able to preserve her nipples which is not standard of care for a mastectomy is most cases. Her reconstruction surgery looks basically the same and mostly feels the same as it was because of her prior surgery with implants.

      My opinion is that everyone has to do what they have to do. I’m happy she doesn’t have cancer and hope she never gets it.

    • ME’s comments were disgusting and mean. As someone who has had made the decision to have multiple organs removed trying to avoid dying too young, I feel that she has grossly overstepped some serious boundaries. I have had friends try to shame me for not going on detoxes from foods and medications instead of surgery. When you are faced with the thought of leaving your family with a huge hole in their lives, or making the (very difficult and painful) decision to get extreme surgeries, who in the ******* has the right to criticize?! Okay…taking a second to step off of my soapbox …and if I had the money, I would have had some lipo work done while they were in there.Just saying 😉

  41. melthehound says:

    So, I thought I had turned on the new episode of OC but it’s last weeks,. OMG… The NJ people have NOTHING on these people. Let’s see some water with that cry Tamra.a.. Come on, Squeeze a few., Convince me….

    • BB says:

      If I were you, I’d change the channel or you are going to be scarred for life.

    • boston02127 says:

      I’m just thankful we never had to see them in the back of the limo in that jacuzzi.

      Blah, talk about one big frappe of germs.

    • Laineylainey says:

      LOL…reminds me of the mom from arrested development where she says something like “I would cry, but I can’t spare the moisture.”

      • princesspindy says:

        I’ve been watching that and the first 2 seasons made me roar, a couple of times I had to pause just to keep laughing!!

      • chismosa says:

        LAINEY she’s my fave!!! Love love love love infinity

  42. boston02127 says:

    Did anyone else find it a little creepy when Lydia said to her husband “I’m leaving as a little girl and coming back a grown woman”

    • BB says:

      I think she was predicting she was probably going to see and hear things she had never heard or seen before, considering the women she was going with.

  43. melthehound says:

    I guess the two hour is next week…

  44. Powell says:

    Since Gretchen wasn’t in Tamra’s wedding I wonder what they relationship will be like next season?

  45. BB says:


  46. $25000 says:

    So sad watching them say goodbye to Ryan.

  47. boston02127 says:

    Heather must think she’s talking to her husband instead of Alexis.

  48. $25000 says:

    Lydia is supposed to be on WWHL tonight, and her toking mom is the bartender!

  49. Nancy says:

    Slap her Alexis!

    • cusi77 says:

      I did not get Alexis, Nancy… What I am not getting here? I am not fan of any of them, but I think that Alexis is not listening, she is in head and not in “Listening” and perhaps learn… JMHO… But Open to learn! I don’t know these women.

      • Nancy says:

        Hi Cusi,
        I can’t stand Heather but I do agree that there is something “wrong” with Alexis but I
        don’t think she’s mean. Heather is a typical OC “doctor’s wife.” YUCK!

        • cusi77 says:


        • Orson says:

          I think Alexis has a strong dose of Airhead and materialist. And she’s not the sharpest spoon in the drawer, but Heather has picked her to be her victim. But that’s just my opinion, ymmv.

    • BB says:

      I’m with you Nancy. Did you see Heather’s expression in her talking head when she said she hoped she could have an “intelligent” conversation with Alexis? Alexis is right. Heather talks “down” to her and obviously thinks she’s better than Alexis. Her nose is so far up in the air, she’d drown in a rainstorm.

      • cusi77 says:

        I agree about Heather felling she is better than anyone else, but Alexis seems “to me” impermeable , like you can’t reach her… Well, to be in this kind of program they have to pass some kind of prove to have a personality disorder… Haa!

      • Nancy says:

        I can’t stand women like her.

      • chismosa says:

        Her nose is so far up in the air, she’d drown in a rainstorm.

        Hahahaha ha!!!!!!

  50. cusi77 says:

    Alexis is closed to what Heather is saying… Something is not right with Alexis, really!

    • $25000 says:

      I think Alexis is just really dumb and really frightened. She has had talks like this with Heather before and they didn’t go well. She knows they are all much smarter, meaner and quicker than she is.

      • cusi77 says:


      • BB says:

        So Alexis is not that bright. That’s not a crime, but apparently Heather thinks it is and holds it against her. Why can’t Heather just let Alexis be herself and quit trying to change her? Heather can be friends with Gretchen and to me Gretchen is just at dumb as Alexis.

        • Nancy says:

          I think Alexis’s beauty threatens Heather.

          • Catseye says:

            I think you’re right. (And I also wonder if Terry had an ex-girlfriend that resembled Alexis?) Heather has WAY too much dislike for someone that has never done anything to her personally, other than say she wasn’t on par with Angelina Jolie. Heck, Gretchen made the same type of remark.

        • cusi77 says:

          Heather thinks no one is as intelligent as she is. I get that. I have met some “Heathers” in my life to recognize the symptom. She holds herself in very high steam.(? is that a word)

        • $25000 says:

          You’re right. Heather holds it against Alexis. I couldn’t believe she actually had the nerve to say she doesn’t think she talks down to Alexis. Heather talks down to everyone, all the time.

          I think Gretchen is extremely dumb too, but I think she’s got old Alexis beat in that regard.

  51. Laineylainey says:

    Great blog, MTH I finally got to read it…kept me laughing – love to read our perspective.

  52. boston02127 says:

    Heather blinks a lot.

  53. boston02127 says:

    Here we go with Gretchen and “should I have a baby”

  54. Nancy says:

    Back to the game. Later ladies.

  55. melthehound says:

    I cannot believe I am watching this..

  56. azgirl2345 says:

    Hey I know we are on an OC chat but I am still catching up from last night.
    First, Joey is a big needy baby and I hope to god that somebody, anybody slaps the shit of him. Talk about “small man syndrome” He is a POS. His father is seriously sick. Gia is his godchild and in the catholic church that is huge and he is treating her like doormat. Why? Because he is pissed at Tre. GET OVER IT JOEY BOY.

  57. AZGirl says:

    As for Heather…seriously….I think she is on coke.

  58. BB says:

    I feel really bad for Brianna. However, at least she has a nice house and her mom for support her while Ryan is gone. I worked in a Navy environment for many years and I can tell you there are many women with more than one kid who are totally on their own when their husbands are deployed, living in a strange town, in navy house, etc. They have no support system apart from the other wives. I don’t mean to minimize what she’s going through, but it could be a lot worse.

  59. NJBev says:

    Gretchen is going to be sorry she crapped on Alexis. I have a feeling
    she is going to need her later this season……….

  60. boston02127 says:

    I can’t believe Dr. crap ass is asking Slade those ?’s.

  61. lillybee says:

    Did Gretchen really invite Brooke to Lydia’s party.

  62. NJBev says:

    Oh Lydia
    shut up-

  63. BB says:

    Ooooh! Lydia is calling Slade out for one of his smart remarks.

  64. NJBev says:

    oh God.
    what a putz

  65. melthehound says:

    The douchery continues. NJ is Crapfest, this is CRAPFEST…

    In walks the Louisiana Grifter…

  66. boston02127 says:

    Apparently brooks doesn’t have much of a life. He gets a call and bam there he is with flowers.

  67. NJBev says:

    Terry is a jerk, his wife is right.
    Where does her get off inviting the putz to the party,
    and then-those questions he asked Slade?!
    Geesus, that was totally classless-

  68. lillybee says:

    Vicki looks so nice at the party.

  69. NJBev says:

    your daughter should have better friends……….

    • cusi77 says:

      Haa! Bev… I was thinking the same! The questionable one is her daughter in choosing friends!

    • BB says:

      Yeah, I know I’d be on TV telling people my kid is friends with a ho (isn’t that what she said)? Doesn’t say much about her kid.

  70. Nancy says:

    The Bruins just scored again. 2-0

  71. melthehound says:

    You Go Lydia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • BB says:

      I’m kind of liking Lydia!

      • melthehound says:

        I am sure she has her problems, they all do… Eating disorder may be one of them,. The whole thing started with her thinking the dbag was talking behind her back. Say it to me or don’t say it.

  72. cusi77 says:

    I think that Lydia could have some problems with her eating habits… Proof of that is that she is so defensive about a bad joke…

    • melthehound says:

      That’s possible.. I think this Slade character is too involved in being a HW though, just like Baby Joey… I remember some comedy routine, if we want to call it that, where he called out all of the women, particularly vicki – Miss Piggy…

  73. NJBev says:

    Lydia really had her feelings hurt, and she is letting Slade have it!!!

    • cusi77 says:

      In that case…. GO Lydia Go! He is not a gentleman… or knows well that if he misbehaves he gets camera time!

      • $25000 says:

        I didn’t like the way he kept leaning into her personal space when she was letting him know he was out of order. It was like he was trying to intimidate her.

  74. djprincessc says:

    Man what is with the grumpy lesbians?? Rosie is a super angry woman and then last night Tabitha on WWHL saying she doesn’t like kids like they have some type of disease she looked like she wanted to shoot Teresa’s kids. Is that what happens when you get no male lovin?? All the gays I’ve ever known seem very cheerful even the ones on Bravo! lol 🙂

    • BB says:

      Tabatha has always said she doesn’t like kids. That’s been her “thing” all along on her own show. It’s a façade because I’ve seen her relate wonderfully to kids on her show before. Rosie is another whole ball of wax. No wonder she can’t get a date! lI love Tabatha. I do not like Rosie.

    • Sus says:

      I’m not a lesbian and don’t think I could take Teresa’s kids for very long. I can’t stand smart mouth kids. I think it’s rude behavior. It isn’t cute in any way. Watching the youngest one turns my stomach because she came out sweet but is going to end up like the rest of them. I feel sorry for them but if I’d probably cry if I was stuck on a flight with those mouths.

      • djprincessc says:

        oh I don’t think that bc she’s a lesbian she can’t stand Teresa’s kids. Basically everyone here has said they need to get the smack down. I think her and Rosie are just grumpy lesbians. lol. I grew up around a lot of kids so while their behavior is rude (but really funny to me at times) its not shocking. I remember being Gias age and having an attitude with my mom and getting embarrassed over EVERY LITTLE THING. I think she’ll calm down at about 16,17. Milaina is just wild though! and you can tell she’s over doing it for the cameras. Nobody has perfect children.

        • Laineylainey says:

          No smacking down of any kids, por favor!!!! 😉

        • Sus says:

          I don’t need perfect. I need parents to curb terrible behavior. Teresa doesn’t seem to ever parent on camera. The same was true of Alex and Mr “You know what when Alex was giving birth”

          • princesspindy says:

            THIS!!! I am soooo sick of being in a store and the kids are so badly behaved AND LOUD and the parents are NOT EVEN SAYING ANYTHING, they just phucking ignore it, ahhhhh!!

            • djprincessc says:

              That would be my aunt! lol. Drives me NUTS!! I don’t think Teresa is going to discipline at all on TV bc of the criticism, if she did I’m sure people would find something wrong with it, so she doesn’t and people criticize her for it too. Its a pretty no win situation for her.

              • Sus says:

                Oh, the ship has sailed there. She and Joe could start right now and it wouldn’t help. Their personalities are formed. They will be just like Joe and Teresa calling people and their spouses the C word. I was going to say they won’t be criminals but if they take after Joe, they could be.

              • princesspindy says:

                But the way they act, it doesn’t seem that she EVER disciplines them…not punish but the teaching of discipline….so many parents don’t tell their kids what they expect from them as far as behavior….I use to tell my kids the whole way to the store exactly what they could and could not do, I even made up a toys r us song that we would sing so they wouldn’t ask for anything!!

              • Laineylainey says:

                Oh I shoulda read this before posting…My name Lainey and I agree with your post.

          • Laineylainey says:

            Bwahahaha! So funny SuS! Mr youknowwhat….hahahaha!

          • Laineylainey says:

            I think she’s afraid of any backlash she might get for being strict or simply correcting them on camera. They just take way too much pleasure in testing her on camera, She just stares at them and its like she’s biting her fist cause she wants to do something…but the CAMERAS are there,,,! So she has to resist. The guidance kids… I think they seem really normal with an extra dose of funny and rowdy!

      • $25000 says:

        The youngest one is beautiful, she has an angelic look about her, and then she opens her mouth…

      • chismosa says:

        Perfectly said Sus. Wendy W called her out
        on it as well

        Absolutely no respect. I adore ADORE ADORE kids and they for some reason love me 😉 but Teresa’s kids are awful.
        She needs to remover them and/or herself from TV ASAP

  75. Sus says:

    Gretchen is turning into single white female with Tamara.

    While I think Lydia was being over sensitive, I love that she told Slade that now she knows what kind of person he is.

    Lauri is a disgusting person. I think she looks like she oozes STDs. Her face is very hard.

    • cusi77 says:

      What is STD’s? Oozes STDs means?

      • Sus says:

        Sexually transmitted diseases. I’m surprised Lauri’s picture doesn’t appear with the ooze definition.

        (of a fluid) Slowly trickle or seep out of something; flow in a very gradual way: “honey oozed out of the comb”.
        The sluggish flow of a fluid.
        Wet mud or slime, esp. that found at the bottom of a river, lake, or sea.
        verb. seep – leak – trickle – exude – drip – percolate
        noun. mud – mire – slime – silt – sludge

      • melthehound says:

        Sexual Transmitted Diseases…

      • boston02127 says:

        sexually transmitted disease

        • cusi77 says:

          Does that show on the face? I’m sorry… Something to learn every day!!!

          • melthehound says:

            It doesn’t always show right away if at all. Genital Herpes. Syphilis, up to HIV/AIDS are all STDs.. With most you can look right at them and not know.

          • djprincessc says:

            It will if you have herpies or warts. Syphillis you break out in a rash.

          • djprincessc says:

            It’ll show on the mouth, lips or inside the mouth.

          • Catseye says:

            I think it’s just her slutty behavior in general, for instance putting more effort into going to a pajama party at the Playboy Mansion in hopes of snagging another rich man, rather than focusing on her son Josh, who was dabbling in drugs at a very early age. And now, he is a full-blown Heroin addict with a baby daughter in foster care, who was born addicted.

            • Sus says:

              I googled but couldn’t find anything to confirm that the baby is in foster care. I hope it isn’t true. The baby mama didn’t appear to be Ms Responsibility so who knows. If it is true, how come Lauri didn’t take the baby?

              • Catseye says:

                I read it on the absurdtosublime website. It said that the baby was born last December and went into Heroin withdrawal. They didn’t really elaborate as to why Lauri didn’t take the baby in. In the comments, some people speculated that it wouldn’t fit in with her “lifestyle,” and require her to answer a lot of questions from people, others thought that maybe a drug addicted baby going through withdrawal, would be a handful.

            • $25000 says:

              During the time that Lauri’s son was using before he got arrested the first time Lauri was dating a man who was supposedly a drug dealer. I’ve always wondered if he wasn’t involved in introducing Josh to drugs. Lauri has made many parenting mistakes.

  76. cusi77 says:

    I am playing psychiatrist and I know nothing! I just assume because of her pot head mom. Imagine being a kid a your mom is always “High”… Why she chose that story line?

  77. BB says:

    Lydia’s pot smoking mom is going to be the bartender on WWHL tonight. Kristen Johnson is also going to be on there. Maybe Kristen can set Lydia’s mom straight since she’s a recovering addict. I wish, but I’m not counting on it.

  78. boston02127 says:

    Tamra’s dress is awful.

  79. boston02127 says:

    Gretchen the martyr.

  80. boston02127 says:

    Gretchen’s going down. And I’m gonna clap and clap and clap and clap.

  81. lillybee says:

    I may be feeling sorry for Vicki next week.

    • $25000 says:

      I’ve been feeling badly for her for a while now. I know, I know, she brings a lot of it on herself, but I still feel badly for her.

    • Sus says:

      I’m reserving judgement since the info is coming from Lauri and cat crap condo daughter. I can’t imagine a young girl wanting him but who knows. I hope it’s a bunch of hooey for Vicki’s sake.

      • Laineylainey says:

        She will always be cat crap condo daughter to me now.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I remember the day Sus came up with that name-I was asking her questions about Laurie (she had some good info) and she couldn’t remember the daughters name-cat crap condo was born!!!

      • $25000 says:

        I so agree. I wouldn’t trust a thing Lauri had to say about anything.

        From what I’ve read, cat crap condo girl lives with George and Lauri and works for George. Supposedly George and Lauri use his money to control their kids. I’ve read some interesting articles about it on absurdtosublime.net.

      • JumpTheShark says:

        The way Laurie told it, made it sound like Ashley’s pal is a prostitute…Perhaps I misheard it.

  82. Nancy says:

    Bruins win game 3.

  83. princesspindy says:

    Just so y’all know, my love affair with my spray pain gun is OVER!!!! Returning it, finished, finito, fin and done!~!!! Got one good session and I am done trying to put it together, taking it apart, cleaning it etc, I am a very patient and mechanically inclined person but it’s not worth it….good thing I enjoy painting….. 😦 😦 😦

    • melthehound says:

      That’s the bad part… Let paint dry in it then it becomes a paperweight.

      • princesspindy says:

        I just finished cleaning it AGAIN so I can return it and I thought “would a man clean it this well…??” oh well, I checked and I have lots of roller covers so I am set!!!

  84. princesspindy says:

    *** Hardee har har ~~~ it really was a pain gun!!!!! ***

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      So clever and witty PP!!!!! (Too bad about the spray gun!!)

      • princesspindy says:

        Pisses me off, but at least I got it all primed but I had “such plans” for that gun, lol!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          We bought some sort of spray contraption thing for painting the deck-we used it for about 10 minutes and then went back to rollers and brushes-it was so messy-the kids thought it was great!! They were covered in a nice “red wood” shade for most of the summer!!! What a disaster!!!

          • princesspindy says:

            It was great while it lasted, but I will just roll and it will probably look better cuz I want a French Country look and the spray was too perfect…but I got the whole entertainment center primed in one hour!!! so there was that, but it’s not like it is a contest or a race and I have lots of time!!

  85. princesspindy says:

    Here comes OC!!

  86. djprincessc says:

    Lydia got 1000+ points from me for calling out Slade!!! YOU can tell they they are NOT used to it and it was seriously making Gretchen think and confusing her!! TRASH!

    • melthehound says:

      Thinking is confusing to Gretchen? Who knew? 😉

    • Catseye says:

      That was the BEST!! Slade has a LOT of nerve mentioning “all of Vicki’s plastic surgery,” when Gretchen obviously had a nose job, herself. The bump is no longer there and her breasts look a lot fuller than when she first came on the show.

      • djprincessc says:

        Seriously!!!! Do’t forget her lips too! She was gorgeous when she started the show, her body was perfect and now shes sooooo skinny and boney. And all the plastic surgery. Has Slade looked int the mirror lately?? He’s not hot at all!!

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