Real Housewives Of New Jersey – S5E7 – When Joes Collide

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-cast-and-info-rev_1First, thank all of you for your kind wishes to my friend yesterday. Here we are again folks. The craptacular Crapfest 2013 continues With part 7. This is likely to be more of an editorial than a recap and it may be a bit short. So, if any of you are offended by my typical rant, you may want to skip this part of the blog. Fair warning. Last week, I was at my end with these people and this show, this week didn’t improve that outlook. Once again though, we’ll pretend that this is all real. I watched the show last night with more of an I couldn’t care any less attitude and my health is much better for it. I even enjoyed some ice cream while watching. Ben and Jerry’s Carmel Nut Cluster. They didn’t have Peanut Butter which is my all time favorite but, it was still good. That’s okay.. I’m not supposed to eat it anyway. Here is ClosetFreaks episode 6 recap.

This show was really just about 3 scenes. One of them is barely worth mentioning. Wacky JackyCombined in a scene was Jacqueline the F Nut and Chis of Lurkita (Thank you VV) during his lunch break from his job. What job? We got another golden nugget from Jac regarding this retreat of Teresas. That is, she would rather wax her lips, All 4 of them, than waste any more time with Teresa. So, not only does she bleach her asshole but she waxes the sensitive parts of her hooha. Good to know Jac. Maybe she’s talking about the outer.. I don’t know. Never seen it nor do I care to. Wouldn’t that be 6 lips though ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ? I guess Cynthia Barshop found work after all. Oh, by the way, F-Nut thinks her dog is crapping on the deck because he is jealous of Nicolas. No, Jac, he’s crapping on the deck because you ignore him all together in your drunken stupors. If he was jealous of the kid, he would be pissing on the kid’s bed.ย The other, in a sad attempt to convince us that they are really still together (maybe they are), Carol and Al on a walkMomz and Big Al taking a walk across a bridge. She keeps reminding him of all he’s missed working so hard. I still say he’s missed nothing. Where is Fran with the Pig? That’s what I really want to know. At least we didn’t see the Manzoids.. Main point of these scenes I guess is that Momz and the F Nut have decided not to go on this retreat. Bravo however still feels the need to get work for their money so they put these two on the screen anyway during this episode.

M and J Pre RetreatBefore that, in the opening of the show where we see the Gorga’s Wakilies, and the Giudice’s getting ready for this trip and leaving to go to the retreat. Once again, the Giudice’s are going solo in their own car while the others have a party bus. Clearly there are some people who are on board with this and others who are not. Rosie has been a big proponent for this trip since it was brought up. Who brought it up? We are to believe Teresa did but somehow, I think Rosie had a big hand in it. That is, if we are to believe that any of these people set anything up on these shows. Remember, this is Bravo. Anyway, baby Steroid boy is whining about going and so is the pig, his wife. She says somewhere in here ย that last time she wanted him to work things out with his sister but this time, she’s following his lead. Trouble, right Milania and Tre packingthere. We all know that she carries his balls in her fake Chanel and only gives them back when she wants to pop out another kid or make him feel like he’s a man. She’s still on this kick that it’s somehow Teresa’s fault that Her maid of honor, Jan, was talking shit about her at some dinner (which has been confirmed to us, that Teresa didn’t stick around and listen to). She has the angel from god (Satan) believing it too. These two, are not among those who want all the fighting to stop. Let’s face it. If they weren’t fighting with Teresa, what would be the point of them being on the show? Listening to him grunt about Tarzan and Poison while she spits out another shitty iTunes song? Please. This is Bravo, not public access channel 5043 cable. They aren’t going to work anything out but to confront Teresa.

Meanwhile, over at the dickhead fly’s house, Rosie, as I said, is looking forward to seeing what can come of this retreat. He already has an attitude about it and is cracking jokes about it, and Teresa. Someone said last night that he gets off on all this fighting. I agree because, again, without it, no paycheck for the dickhead. His goal is to be drunk the entire time, evidenced by the idea that he brought along a case of wine or other libation.

On the road now, the Gorgas and Wakilies and Rosie are on the party bus, all talking crap about what a waste of time this is. Tarzan makes some comment about how fake he thinks his sister is, and all I could think is he should look to his right when he’s talking about fake, to his wife. If you are all getting the feeling that I think this is all a load of Bravo bull, you are very perceptive. Someone asked about these therapists, and someone said one of them was Dr V (LA Shrinks- Fanny Andy has confirmed on WWHL, that this is the same one)… MeGo with a scowl on her face, “The Vagina Doctor?”. Over in the Giudice vehicle, the only thing really to come out of that scene is Joe telling Teresa that the F Nut has texted Him, that if his wife wasn’t such a bitch, he could play more often with Chris of Lurkita. I think Jac is mixing booze with her anxiety meds. Dangerous combo. He says that he called back and asked who was texting him and she said Jacqueline. He didn’t recognize the number, that’s why he called, he says. Like she’s a good friend of his or something like that. I am still going back to last week to Chris rolling his eyes wishing he’d never met that fruitloop while she was on the pole working at that convention center.

Drinking at a RetreatOkay, we finally get to this castle where the retreat is to take place. There are no therapists employed here (at least I don’t think so).. As the bus is pulling into the place, dickhead makes some comment about how everyone will be dressed while Teresa will be in an evening gown. I think they should have stopped the bus, let him off to take a leak, as we’ve had to witness every other season with these asshats and their trips, and driven off while he was standing at the side of the road with his dick in his hand. Teresa and Joe are already inside and they greet the others as they come in. Right away, poison and the pig have comments about that. They can’t exchange pleasantries without venom. Teresa seems surprised that the F Nut and Momz chose not to attend. Some time back, there was some tweet from the F Nut about somebody being a moron, of course directed to Teresa. You know, that one that would rather bleach her asshole and wax her lips than have anything to do with Teresa. This turns into a near argument about Jac’s twitter habits and who gets and reads them. Who cares? Just like I call out Jac on her behavior if she doesn’t want anything to do with Teresa, I will call out Teresa as well (who Dared, Jac to come and answer for her part in Stripper-gate). I am not going into a whole he said she said thing here, it’s pointless. Go back and watch any previous episode since the pig and her cousin in law joined the show, you’ll see and hear the same old shit.

Kathy and Rich LaffThey all settle in their rooms and as in the groups they rode up there, they are talking about what is about to happen. The booze is flowing too. Notable, Joe had something to say about the whole feuding situation and Jaqueline.. He said something about Autism and that it isn’t as bad as it may seem. Some grow up to be great scientists (or something like that). Teresa asked him to stop, he did but not before confirming, that he doesn’t know much about it and that he’s no doctor. No shit Sherlock. The rest of them all still think Teresa owes them some sort of apology. I think there is enough blame to go around here. However, just as they are all wanting Teresa to accept her part in it all, none of them are. We are reminded several times that the poison elf, is a man, and as such he’s always right. I find myself wondering why heย feels the need to remind us of his being a man. There is an awkward lunch where they all sit down to eat. Probably (for timeline sake) the first time they’ve done this in over a year. No one is saying anything but the booze is flowing thanks to the dickhead. There is a team building therapist on the way so that will be the first part of this ‘retreat’ (a word that the dickhead doesn’t think Teresa can spell – who cares?).

Trust GameThe Therapists arrive. They don’t look like therapists and Mego has to get her digs in in her TH (really, Pig?). As the people are getting set up in the ballroom, the booze continues to flow, and the therapists are also offered some. Fake Red Flag…. What ‘Therapist, allows people to continue to get wasted before and during a session? Maybe I missed something or we weren’t shown where they objected to the drinking. With this crowd, who knows? In the ballroom, these therapists or team building specialists have no idea what’s in store for them (eyes rolling here). From this point, I will call the three families, the players. The specialists lay a rope on the ground in a circle. Inside the circle, they lay 7 pieces of paper. One for each of the players to step on without touching the floor. Pretty simple. Then they remove a piece of paper so there are 6 and the players have to figure out how to fit 7 on to 6 spaces, and so on. Think Drunken Twister here because that’s what it was. The players manage to get through that without killing each other. We are treated to a closeup of the poison elf grabbing the pig’s ass. Nice, Bravo. Yes, in all that, that is what caught My attention. The next exercise is thumb wrestling. This one pointed out that none of these people listen and they really are all in competition with each other. I thought it made a pretty good point. Each person that pins the other’s thumb, would get a hundred dollars, each time they did it. No one got the money because they were all so wrapped up in their own minds, none could let the other win to get the money. They weren’t cooperating with each other.

These Team Building people were Rosie’s brainchild. DrV, was Teresa’s (just so we know who the players are here). Let’s get to the meat of this episode. Teresa brings up the fact that one of the major reasons they are there, trying to fix their relationship, is due to someone who is not there. The F Nut. The team building people are quickly losing control of this herd and the lead guy tries to regain it by asking Teresa to stick to the people who Gorgas lovin lifeare there. You see, we’re still talking about stripper-gate and the F Nut’s part in it. Those of you who don’t think she did, didn’t watch the show. That whole debacle was going to end the same way it did, regardless of what Teresa did or didn’t do. It was Jac who told poison that Teresa had set the whole thing up. The Pig, is still pissed at Teresa because she didn’t put a stop to it or call her when baldy was at the salon. We get to hear again how it was all Kim D’s fault (which I believe). What this all comes down to is is the Gorgas believing the whack job F Nut Laurita, over Teresa, Follettos (thank you Disgrazia4) own blood. We even get to see another of the pig’s acadamy award performances as she gets down on herย knees (I hearMel on knees she’s had a lot of practice at that) and begging Teresa to stop hurting her family. At some point, she gets up and goes to a neutral corner saying her name is Gorga, Gorga, Gorga.. (Is it just me or is the pig staring staight at the camera while standing there like a bitch with her arms crossed?) Then it happens. I see something I never thought I would see. A pig sitting on a window ledge. Yes, folks, swine can do some pretty neat tricks when they are trained properly. Anyway, Teresa tells folletto, to stick with blood and stop siding with strangers. Somewhere in all this, Kathy, the new know it all, says that the F-Nut is just trying to help them. Ummm, No, Kathy, she isn’t. She has turned her daughter in the a laughing stock on the show and is sweating her job at Bravo as a housewife now that Ashlee is no longer there to be used as a storyline. Instead, now she is pimping her son and trying to create drama where there doesn’t need to be any. Did I mention last week how much I hate that woman? Both Joe Tre and Joe get animatedand Teresa are telling the Wakilies and Gorgas they don’t know that whacked out F Nut as well as they think they do. This whole thing culminates in The Angel From God, telling his sister that she is scum and he will never side with his scum sister. Remember his introduction to the show? Garbage? Meanwhile, Joe and Rosie have decided they had enough and went outside to get drunk some more. While he’s out there telling Rosie what an ass he thinks his BIL is, and that he would like to pound him, but promised Papa Gorga that wouldn’t happen, Teresa comes outside, tells them what was said and that she wantsย to leave. She’s Done. Well, I Joe and Rosie Exit for a drinkhave mixed feelings about this. For seasons, I’ve watched Joe berate his wife but always figured, their marriage, not my business. Joe storms back into the place, and demands that folletto apologize to Teresa for calling her scum. Well, poison elf boy decides he’s still a man and charges Joe to try and tackle him. Joe grabs hold of him and tosses him to the ground. In true Bravo fashion, this is where the show ends. To be continued.

Fight FightBravo has shown us this fight scene as a teaser on their website. I only watched it once and it didn’t look to me like the poison elf proved his manhood in this scene. The Pig is hollering at Teresa to protect her brother. Really Bitch? After what the two of them pulled, Teresa should go to Their defense. They didn’t go there to resolve anything. They went there for a show made conflict and that’s exactly what they got. I HOPE, Juicy, landed some good punches while he had the elf on the ground. I also hope a stray elbow caught the pig in the jaw. Can you tell I hate these people? If it wasn’t obvious last season, I hope it is now. Anyone who believes these people are ‘good’ with each other now, there is some ocean front property in Kansas with your name on it.

I know some of you don’t watch the show and count on my recaps. That would require watching the show more than once or twice to really do a justified recap. I can’t do that anymore so you get what is in my memory from watching it once or at the most, twice. If it’s wrong, apologies. I know that some of you will fill the blanks for me. This is a group effort ๐Ÿ˜‰ . According to Andy on WWHL, there are at least two more episodes of this and the outcome is ‘amazing’.. We’ll see.

Honestly, I have a better time reading your comments on chat night than watching these crapfests. Some good stuff from last night:

From Rebecca:

Chris Laurita: โ€œI donโ€™t like drama.โ€ You married the biggest drama queen on the planet!

Melissa: โ€œIโ€™m never on twitter.โ€ You have 8,000 outgoing tweets!

Kathy: โ€œI donโ€™t want to talk about Jacqueline with Teresa.โ€ You talk about Teresa to Jacqueline everything you are with Jacqueline! Itโ€™s her ONLY topic of conversation!

Melissa: โ€œDonโ€™t hang out with my friends.โ€ SERIOUSLY??????????????

Melissa: โ€œI donโ€™t want to talk about Jacqueline with Teresa.โ€ REALLY????????????

Melissa: โ€œI donโ€™t want to talk about someone who isnโ€™t here.โ€ ARGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just put Milania back in front of the camera. Geez.

Also from Rebecca:

Politically incorrect quip of the night:

I canโ€™t wait for the dwarf tossing scene!

Many others from other posters of course but that last one made me laugh out loud …

NMD said at the end of her chat intro: “This season hasnโ€™t bugged me half as much as I thought it would. ย I truly donโ€™t care about any of these people. ย They all deserve each other.”

Same here… I was more dreading the fighting among the ‘fambly’ here that I thought would likely take place during this season. I’m happy to see that even though there are some disagreements, that hasn’t happened. I would like to think that it’s because the people here care more about each other than what’s happening on a shitty Bravo show.

I’ll see you next week and maybe I’ll give an actual recap.. Then again, maybe not. Photos provided once again by Stars99. Thank you, Stars.

Til then, Peace. MTH.



Happy Birthday BB

You are the glue that held this blog together when Lynn passed. ย I’ve grown to know you as a strong, dependable, friend. ย I hope your day brings you joy and happiness. ย NMD


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238 Responses to Real Housewives Of New Jersey – S5E7 – When Joes Collide

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Its Monday Monday. It will be hot. Turn up your A/C. I
    think today’s blog title should have been “When dumber and dumber collide”. ๐Ÿ™‚ Have a great day.

  2. Rebecca says:

    God morning! I’m glad I could amuse you, MelTheHound.
    I have GOT to keep remembering how fake and “produced” this show is – for my own sanity.

    • Powell says:

      Rebecca I watched the 5 second beginnings of the fight and that’s all I watched and I got made at those whackos. Why oh why didn’t I just do like you and remind myself that it faked and overly produced? ๐Ÿ™‚ I see why MTH blood boils when he’s blogging it.

  3. TexasTart says:

    Good Morning! Appreciate the blog, MTH. Have a good day. ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. LavaLady says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY BB! I hope you have a wonderful day. You have been a great friend and contributor to this blog. Let Baby Jack have a little taste your cake. Best wishes to you for a great day and year.

  5. Rebecca says:

    Happy Birthday BB!
    Ice cream cake for everyone!

  6. Shiny says:

    Happy Your Day, BB! Laugh, smile, and have tons of fun.

  7. Rebecca says:

    Twinkies are back!!!!!! Ding Dongs are back!!!!1 MY RASPBERRY ZINGERS ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!
    All is good with the world! Happy Monday everyone!

    • Powell says:

      I know Rebecca. I was excited to ser that on the news. Gotta go to Walmart and get a box. They are special collectible boxes. I’m not collecting. I’m eating. When Hostess went bankrupt I said we can’t not have Twinkies, Hohos, etc. I’m glad a few of the products were bought.

    • chismosa says:

      can you tell me what a raspberry zinger is? From Hostess? I never heard of this?

      • Rebecca says:

        They were Dolly Madison snack cakes. It was basically a Twinkie covered in raspberry gel coating and sprinkled with coconut. Don’t you remember the commercials during Snoopy specials? Did I just age myself?

  8. Vegas Chick says:

    Happy Birthday, BB! Thanks for all the effort that you have put on this blog. I hope that you have a day of joy, laughter and lots of love.

    I can’t help but wonder what Mr. & Mrs. Opie had to say about their experience. Too bad that Bravo didn’t give them TH’s. Mrs. Opie was probably crying in fear for her life. Poor thing didn’t even have one line on the whole show, lol.

    I know most are staunch Teresa supporters but I have a feeling if you were her SIL, you wouldn’t be seeing her through rose-colored glasses you do now. There is nothing sweet about Teresa. She’s a selfish, self-absorbed biatch. With that said, she should cut her brother out of her life once and for all. No woman should tolerate being called names by any man. A smart, good husband would have gotten her out of there pronto. It goes without saying that there is nothing good about Joe Guidice. He’s a bum.

    • chismosa says:

      i agree and i’m with you (come…. join us!)— and if she wants to cut men that do that out of her life that goes for her husband – (which she’ll NEVER do) but she should but she doesn’t have the self-respect or bravery to go against her religious/ cultural upbringing, as that is her excuse. “old school” “off the boat”. Her brother seems to be an issue that STEMMED from Joe the husband, so who knows, if she were to leave her husband her bro would be on her like mozarella on tomato for support. But yeah, cut both out if she had BALLS. But she doesn’t.

      Her kids are no better seeing the two parents together unhappily and fighting and crashing onto the floor drunk on wine breaking teeth and trash-talking in-laws.

      • Vegas Chick says:

        I sometimes think that Teresa tolerates it because it’s familiar. In other words, it was part of her upbringing. Neither of her parents seem very nurturing. Of course, we only saw them for a bit in the earlier seasons, but her mother seems brash, and her dad is definitely a hot head. He’s just old now and out of gas. Problem is that Teresa isn’t smart enough to understand that it’s not a good way to live. As you pointed, she would rather make the ‘old school’ excuse because it’s the easier way out. Teresa always take the easy way out. I wonder how much of the $11m they owe has been paid down. The only reason that she stays with Meatball is because of the money. She would have to pay him alimony and the value of half of her business. So, stick it out with Meatball and put on a false bravado, turn on your happy, squeaky voice and act like he’s Romeo. Ugh! No thanks.

        • princesspindy says:

          I think she is in love with Joe, he is the only man she has ever been with and I really thinks that she adores him. I am not saying that she should stay or go, I am just saying what I think I have seen in her behavior… Before HWs I think her world was very isolated and small and she had no clue about how others saw his behavior towards her……who knows what will happen….

          • HuskerHuny says:

            There is a very weird vibe between Joe Gorga and Teresa. I do believe that Teresa loves Juicy and wants to be married to him. But at the same time, I think she doesn’t want her brother to be married – to anyone. She wants all of his attention; just like when they were growing up. Creepy!

            • princesspindy says:

              I think and I could be wrong, but I think Tre wanted someone better for her bro…ie. a… Tre was a wirgin and I think that they wanted a sweet Italian wirgin for him and that is not what they got with Mel….I don’t see the creep factor….I just see (cuz my bro is on his 3rd wife) that Tre can’t believe that her bro can’t see “the truth” <as Tre sees it……

              • mrs peabody says:

                I agree with you and also don’t see the creep factor. I just think she wants to be part of his life too as any sister would and Melissa does her best to keep him from his family.

                • princesspindy says:

                  SIL #2 kept us away as best she could for 17 years….then she cheated on him and took everything…. He got remarried but our relationship is just about nothing….she was evil and caused so much strife, was so disrespectful to my mom. Hated me and purposely caused problems, she was a nightmare. And then she was gone. But the damage was done. His third wife is a doll from what I gather and they take really good care of my mom, which is great and he is really happy!

                  • Amalfi says:

                    That is an awful story. I’m glad it has a happy ending though. *sigh*

                    • princesspindy says:

                      Ya know, I never think about it but as I was writing I starting to get emotional….I am just glad that my mom and bro have been able to repair their relationship. It was awful for her, the things that woman said to her were worse than anything I have ever seen on RHW!!! The sad thing is I can’t even wish her ill will cuz it turns out that she was/is severely mentally ill, schizophrenic, bipolar, etc, so I actually feel sorry for her.

              • windycitywondering2 says:

                I saw this on another blog and IMHO it sums up the genesis for this fugly family feud. Melissa is angry because she wanted a Juicy and she got a Joe. And now everyone must pay for this!

                • VV says:

                  I don’t know about that but her ex is definitively more the JoeGiu type than her mini-man-fights-by-grabbing-balls husband.

          • mrs peabody says:

            I think she loves him too and I bet we are only seeing a tip of the iceberg when it comes to him and his relationship with her. From what I’ve seen I would not put up with his behavior but who knows what he is like when we don’t see him. From what I’ve seen of the other husbands and their behavior (not so much Chris and Al but creepy and the angel) I don’t think those wives have any reason to put down Tre’s marriage. From where I stand their husbands aren’t anything to write home about either. I wouldn’t put up with any of them either. I give Joe G credit in he says it like it is about the rest of them and doesn’t seem to want anything to do with them unlike creepy and the angel who seem to get their kicks out of their wives tearing down their sister and cousin. I’d take Joe G any day over the other 2. Also for his credit he does seem to be acting better this season or it’s just editing.

            • Vegas Chick says:

              I wouldn’t take any of them, lol. Maybe, she has no choice but to love him. We don’t know what convos happen between Teresa and her parents either. I think that they would pressure her with guilt to stay… old school thinking for the kids, etc.

  9. Amalfi says:

    Sweet baby jesus! This reminds me of Melissa.

    Go straight to the fun at 0:54… here:

    (My sons and husband were watching this last night as I was watching NJ – which even though it is a show about nascar, proves that they have better taste than I do.)

  10. Amalfi says:

    Happy birthday, Beachcomber Baroness ๐Ÿ˜‰

  11. SoutheastVA says:

    Happy birthday to my fellow southeast Virginian BB! Hope you have a blast!!

  12. trudie says:

    Happy, happy day BB. May it be fabulous from beginning to end!

  13. ms molli says:

    Jeff, another masterpiece!! Hope you shared the ice cream with Mel!! BB – Happy Birthday. Hope it’s the best one yet. Thanks guys!!

  14. Jules says:

    in previews it seems that Rosie talking to Tre’s Cousin and fly is blaming Tre and Joe for the fight. Hope that is the edit.

    Didn’t what her on Andy’s show. what did the two cousins’ have to say?

  15. HuskerHuny says:

    There was nothing to be gained by watching that mess last night. It just amazes me how some people will stoop to the lowest of levels just to be on TV. If that was my family duking it out for all to see, I would be so embarrassed that I would put myself in the Bravo protection program, never to be seen or heard from again. But it’s all about the fame – good or, in this case, bad, very bad.

    Joe Guidice – please, do not ever comment on autism again. Please keep your remarks about other people’s children to yourself. You should be so grateful for the very healthy and happy girls that you have. Someday they will see what fools their parents have been and they may turn on you very quickly. And while you’re at it, just keep ALL comments to yourself.

    Who’s to blame? EVERYONE has a share of blame in this mess. Until EVERYONE comes clean about their part in it, apologizes for it, promises to never speak of it again and move on, this will all be for nothing.

    I did get my gyro and homemade rootbeer this weekend – missed out on kettle corn. My gyro was very messy to eat, but eat it I did! Now on to a new week!

    • Rebecca says:

      Juicy is actually getting props on “other” blogs for his candor from mothers of autistic children. While insensitive to the work that goes into the care of the children, he said out loud what everyone was thinking about Jacqueline. He “took one for the team.”

    • missusmc says:

      I know Joe is crass and gross and somewhat of a Neanderthal, but really, he’s the first person on this show to say something positive about autism, so while, yes, I agree that ALL of these adults need to stop taking about ALL the children, I’d rather hear him say something positive in his ignorant way than to watch Jac once again cry because her life is so affected by autism, and Chris to be praised for not abandoning his child because he Is autistic. Joe was wrong for calling autism a disease; he was right in saying that these kids can have a bright future (paraphrasing, but you get the point).

      • HuskerHuny says:

        Joe Guidice just can’t help want comes out of his mouth. Remember, this is the guy who called his wife some rather hateful names knowing he was on camera.

        Yes, autism is not a death sentence, but it’s not a day in the park either, which is how I thought Joe was trying to say. It just hit me wrong.

        Nick is innocent in all of this mess and shouldn’t be used as a weapon when talking about his parents. All of the children on this show should be off limits and on that we agree missusmc! Have a great day!

        • chismosa says:

          You know i don’t have a problem if ManicJacq wants to write a tome on how she is ‘RAISING’ her child on the spectrum- just that it is labeled clearly as her OWN experience and that she doesn’t tote to be an EXPERT of any kind.
          Kind of like the book Alex and Simon did on raising kids in NYC— not a HOW-to but just an experience of what happened to them. That way, she is not saying she’s any sort of expert and no one can attack her for that. /////Just a mini humble opinion from my batcave.

        • missusmc says:

          I was just relieved to finally hear someone say something good about autism for a change. And if I feel that way, can you imagine how someone who is actually autistic feels? I’m certainly not trying to say autism is all sunshine and rainbows, but so far this season, we’ve just gotten beaten down with the negatives. Apparently, Nic’s autism is so traumatic, even the dog is affected! It’s all been a bit much. I’ve gotten used to people having no idea what autism in the home really is. Those who are really close to me still are surprised, so it makes sense that Joe would have no idea. I just think he’s pretty harmless overall. And one of the least offensive jersey husbands. I could be cutting him more slack than I should just by comparison of the others…

          • Kat From Ohio says:

            totally agree with you. he was inarticulate, but i think his intentions were actually good.

            • HuskerHuny says:

              Respectfully have to disagree with you on Juicy Joe. Taking the autism remarks out of it, this is still the guy who called his wife the most horrible of names, on camera mind you. Yeah, he’s probably harmless, but I really dislike what comes out of his mouth. He’s definitely not an educated man and it shows. But I do have to say, he owns it when called out on it and I can’t say that for many others on this trainwreck of a show.

              • missusmc says:

                I’ll give you that. The C word should not ever be used as an insult against a woman, ever.

              • Vegas Chick says:

                Not educated? No excuse. The guy doesn’t give a crap and has said so many times. That’s the problem really along with thinking that he’s the smartest guy in the room… baahaaawaawaa! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I didn’t take his comment to mean that raising a child with special needs is an easy task. I saw it as him trying to say that autism isn’t necessary a catastrophic dx ,

            I feel that over time “Autism” will develop into it’s own culture (especially for those who are very high functioning) in the same way that there is “Deaf Culture” .

            I know kids (and parents) who proudly sport “Autism Rocks” T-shirts while still working hard at their various therapies to reach goals.

            I might be jaded because I am so disgusted by Jac but she comes across to me like she is trying to “fix” Nic as opposed to helping to give him the tools to flourish into the man he is meant to be.

            • Rebecca says:

              In her manifesto, she says she has time for Twitter because her three-year-old is in school and therapy for NINE HOURS A DAY.

              • rabblerouser2010R says:

                I think I might have said this here or it could have been on AllaboutTRH, that is part of the reason I am so incensed that she would have Nic being filmed in his home therapy routine after the intensive day has; even a typical kid would have hit the wall.

                But instead of coming home to a calm and tranquil household, he gets a tv camera in his face and is expected to perform for it.

              • The nine hours is probably very typical…the recommended amount of therapy for early intervention of a child with autism is about 40 hrs of 1:1 per week. So, if the little guy is in a pre-school program for 2-3 hrs and then various therapies it explains the number. I wish I had the money and my district supported an strong early intervention plan. It may seem like a lot but there is a TON of data to show that many of these kids regain the skills they lost and are transitioned into regular education programs.

              • Amalfi says:

                That explains all the free time Jac has for drunk tweeting, waxing and bloroxing.

                Mystery solved.

      • I agree with you here! I kinda think Juicy was showing some compassion. I have actually been a bit surprised by Juicy in the past several episodes…last week, he was able to explain Napoleon Syndrome and has even offered up some interesting other things that have escaped me for the moment.
        My point, Juicy is the only one that has brought up the fact that many of our spectrum kids grow up to be scientists, artists, musicians, etc.!

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Juicy may not speak the Queen’s English but I understood his message. He wants the best for Nicholas and he is tired of Wacky Jacky using him as an excuse for her behavior. No one else on this show was brave enough to say it because they would get slammed for it!

  16. BB says:

    Thanks for all the Birthday Wishes! When I got to Jack’s house this morning, there were some lovely flowers waiting for me. Of course, Jack could care less that it’s my birthday. It’s Jack’s world and I’m just living in it. Lol! Speaking of which, he’s now waking up and demanding my attention. BBL.

  17. VV says:

    Jeff, can’t wait to read your recap. Busy @ work … I’m sure as usual you cut through all the BS.

  18. SoutheastVA says:

    I have a question that will probably be unpopular. Is all the constant name calling necessary? In my opinion, ALL OF THEM leave a lot to be desired. They have all lied, instigated verabal or physical fights, feigned innocence, been bad parents and role models to their children, had others do their dirty work while trying to seem “above it all”, dressed like hookers/hoes, etc. I like some better than others but don’t hold them above anyone else in the group. I don’t get why some peope get a pass. They are all fame whores and are playing the game for different reasons $$$.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Agree 1,000 percent!

    • chismosa says:

      Good points. my problem started after “fly” and “frogs” (and currently, snakes) were flying around last year. I have a feeling calling Teresa names started very early on in the seasons due to her hairline– not the personality, but i’m not sure.

      • Amalfi says:

        I think it had to do with her inability to express herself rather than her hairline…

        I mean none of them are exactly Nordic, blond and hairless…

    • VV says:

      Name calling has always been part of this and Lynn’s old blog. Does Jill Zarin ring a bell? She was called just about every name on the book.
      It’s all in fun (for some) and it’s not for everybody (the option of skipping comments is there)
      I do call Dick The Fly because he looks like Jeff Goldblum.
      I call Kathy Froggy, I got it from Juicy who called her that.
      I call Melissa many names amongst them Snake because TO ME she behaves like one.
      Again, supermarket approach take what you want and leave on the shelf or skip what you don’t like.

      • Amalfi says:

        I have a brother in law named Dick. I guess I see that word different, especially if someone’s name is Richard. Dickhead though… lol. I might have called my brother in law that too in jest usually… just too convenient if that is also your given name.

      • plainviewsue says:

        I second that VV.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I will try to do better.

  19. Donna says:

    Happy Monday

  20. boston02127 says:

    Happy Birthday BB! I hope you have a great day!
    ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

  21. Amalfi says:

    Was it Husker Honey who said Joe needs to not talk about autism? I totally agree… and said as much yesterday.

    Today (while I believe he is not very adept at elucidating his thoughts) I feel like had he been able to say the words “autistic savant” and express in a better way that all children have a meaningful future, despite what appear to be drawbacks, it wouldn’t have been out of line.

    I really thought despite his good intentions, he should keep his mouth shut. And then I remember F-Nut reading How Not to be a Sore Loser or something to Gia and I just wanna say…. Joe is pretty tame and rather sane and sympathetic. Granted, that is only relative to F-Nut, which doesn’t mean much.

    *Great job, Mel*

  22. Birdwoman says:

    Happy Birthday BB!!!

  23. chismosa says:

    BB— happy birthday to you— warmest wishes– many more! all health and happiness to you! Fellow cancerian! And this week is some very good projections for us! (i follow astrology zone- excellent for anyone interested…. she’s good trust me)

    Ok i know very well, sadly ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ that i am very lonesome in my cave on my views here, but just what i saw and noted- and then to everyone– have a FABULOUS MANIC MONDAY! i’m having wordpress issues so pardon issues here– hope to be back on later, it’s slow on my phone. wahhhh
    I’m going to go eat 1000 twizzlers for breakfast and catch you all later.

    -I hope that was a faux fur bag Teresa was carrying. That was a LOT of fur.

    JoeDwarfGuerilla needs to stop protesting his BIL’s height so much. You are projecting your insecurity so much ! Yes your wife loves her brother more than you. Yes she wanted a husband more like her brother and wound up settling for an old trashy cheating family friend, whom your parents warned you about. JoeGui does ‘start’ ALL the time. Tre is on to the fact, 10 years into the series, that the cameras are not HELPING HER MARRIAGE. (But they do help book mag covers/ contracts).

    You can tweet at the same time as caring for a child. Newsflash America. Especially when it’s not your intern/assistant/ ghost-tweeter doing it. Ughhhh ๐Ÿ˜ค i have to say, this really showed how much resentment Tre is harboring towards Jacq. Even her stupid SHORT husband said for her to forget her. Jacq this whole season, only lashed out on the phone in her manic mode. But otherwise, she never brings up Teresa- others around her bring her up and her face visibly changes. Not a Jacq fan, just saying, i think Tre is more affected by this break than we think. She holds Jacq ‘responsible’ when we know she should hold producers/ Andy/ Bravo responsible. What a FARCE this show has become. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

    Jacq WAS leaving Teresa alone – until Teresa went un-supervised back to the 1.0 version of Teresa on the phone in response to ManicJacq (or after purposely antagonizing Jacq?). Teresa criticizing Jacq’s living situation was laughable. Jacq is a housewife like guess who also was? Teresa! Before your a$$hole husband put you all in ” big brown shit” to quote the 2nd love of your life. Then you had to start hustling. Before that you were happily pulling 100$’s out of your pocket for gaudy furniture and not having a care in the world. Don’t criticize someone for not working. You’re not Bethenny telling Jill to get a hobby simmah down now.

    Why was there holy water in the rooms? Was this a religious retreat?

    I was doing a drinking game with my friend who was watching in San Diego and everytime Teresa licked her lips we drank. I think the Faux Milania twitter woman sent out something funny about that- i read it somewhere. LOLsssss

    The Achilles heel was Joe saying nicely that Rosie calls up and apologizes after any of her rants and rages. Tre went into defcon 4, licked herself raw and was eyeing flipping that table. Then she slowly went back to Tre1.0….. Almost a flip.. but not ….quite. Well done Tre!

    I was a little scared by Teresa’s upside down cross she was wearing.

    Gotta say I’m quite shocked by everyone calling JoeGo girly when clearly it’s JoGorilla who has homophobic issues. He’s disturbing to me. Overcompensating to me.

    Teresa is pissed because she has a husband that shoots down every thing she ever says/ shows zero respect to her/ cheats openly and talks down about her sibling and talks down any issue she brings up to him that matters to her— and that’s ONLY what we see, god only knows in every day real life. She doesn’t have an “equal” partnership marriage (brainwash is how of course JoGui will label it/ machismo-meatball like) like her brother does so she can’t take hearing Melissa say ANYTHING. I loved Teresa expecting her brother to remain her baby bro and forget he got married and has a LIFE. ๐Ÿ’ก Gold Jerry, Gold. Blam Bloop. Production manipulating everyone and everyone on pins and needles going along with it to ensure Teresa has conflict. Sooooooo 1992! ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„ Bing bang boom. NJ HWs this season/ nutshell. Plonk.

    Her “blood is thicker”- meaning JoGo, rather than her own husband or his wife?? Teresa’s SHORT loving husband, clearly better equipped to pummel someone (not a compliment) – and then look who RUNS away- Teresa. She knows her husband is displaying how gross he is. She could have easily told the Ron Howard guy to call police or a camera/gaff man. It’s same old song… run away after the bomb goes off. I knew it’d play out always the same.

    Teresa’s frustrated with how Bravo/ production manipulated this whole stripper fiasco. Bravo/production keeps slipping her new things- the Melissa friends/ the Jacq not showing up. So FU**ing LEAVE THE SHOW. ๐Ÿ’ก ๐Ÿ’ก Just do your spinoff. The hell with you. Why do you fall prey to this? You are so ‘above’ this Tre with your adoring fans and your fabulous fabulous career! lolllls ๐Ÿ™„ … you are not a scripted television actor contracted to stay 6 seasons. You can leave. There is money in you- go. You still have to rush to support your family, Joe made you do that, so flourish and fly….NJ can shut down. Stop using your father as an excuse for your issues with your brother. Those were simmering for years. You have your managers/ cue card-writers/ bloggers/tweeters/ co-writers all taking care of you— so go to Bravo or production and demand to be let off this. Stop complaining. Recast/ end NJ. It’s done.

    • Amalfi says:

      I do not agree with you at all about this, but I always love that you are here.

      • chismosa says:

        Amalfi i just have to say that i LOVE your gravatar color and it’s one of my fave colors of all time.
        Thanks anyway…. back to the cave i crawled out of! lol

    • chismosa says:

      someone please do a gif of my mom licking the sides of her mouth and send it to me STAT #RHONJ— a milania parody (@TheFauxMilaniaG) July 15, 2013

      does this work?

      • chismosa says:

        tried to ’embed’ … whatever. i followed directions!

        • chismosa says:

        • cusi77 says:

          Very good points Chismosa! So true! Ape cancels in one second what Teresa says and that has been shown for years. That is no edition fault, he treats her that way… I dislike JoeGiu.

          All this drama is Bravo manipulating ways. I like Teresa for being hard worker. I don’t like that she thinks that her brother has to stick with his FAMILIARES instead of his FAMILY which now is his wife and kids! Never forget your parents, but your husband/wife and kids are the family one creates.

          I watch this to laugh and have you all of you in my life. No lost love with NJ.

          • chismosa says:

            thanks Cusi— love you lots. besitos. It’s a production issue now and it’s just so DONE!

    • chismosa says:

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Will you marry me Chismosa?

      • chismosa says:

        Husker i’m so taken aback ….. i am without speech! You somewhat agree with me??? ha ha.
        have a great day!

        and yes… i like a fall wedding.

        • missusmc says:

          You two could get married in the Bravo clubhouse ๐Ÿ™‚

          • chismosa says:


            I wonder if Andy would accept any heterosexual weddings.

        • HuskerHuny says:

          I did a fall wedding 32 years ago and it was wonderful. So wonderful I’m still with the guy. The way the world is changing, maybe in the future we can work something out! Have a great day Chismosa!

    • Orson says:

      FTR, I agree with much of what you said, chismosa. You’re not alone in your feelings toward Teresa.

    • So glad I am not the only one that keeps noticing the “licking of the lips”. She does it a LOT this season! She does it when she lies and when she is nervous…she would not be a good poker player! LOL!

      • chismosa says:

        Tsoulwa- yes it happens a lot. ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…

        And thank you very much for enlightening this blog with your experiences with Autism. Much love

    • Sasha says:

      Chimosa, it’s like I typed those very precious words myself.

  24. cusi77 says:

    Happy Birthday BB! I wish you all the best , my dear friend!

    Thank you MeltheHound for blogging NJ! You did a lot more funnier your recap than what they really showed to us. Viva MelTheHound!

    Great comments Rebecca!

  25. jules says:

    Once again MTH, thanks for taking one for the team. I read your “disclaimer” that you only watched once or twice and that’s enough of a sacrifice! I was getting upset just reading your account so I can only imagine how high my blood pressure would have been had I actually watched it. I hope and pray NJ has jumped the shark and we won’t have to be bothered with them anymore. What is most interesting to me is the comments on Lynn’s FB page. It seems Juicy is seen in a new light this season. I don’t know if it’s that he’s made an effort to make a personal change or that everyone else is just so bad it makes him look good. But it definitely has been a fascinating to see how the tides have changed looking from the outside in.

    Happy, happy birthday BB. I hope you have a wonderful day and if it’s Africa hot where you are like it is where I am that you at least enjoy it.

    • Amalfi says:

      Juicy is still a turkey. The rest are just even wilder, dumber turkeys than normal which makes him look less turkey-ish than ususal in comparison.

    • chismosa says:

      do people who comment here- are they mostly all on FB? or are there FB people who then do not come to comment here? Just wondering.
      I know many here do the chatzy/chat thing too.

      • Kansas Girl says:

        Both and all 3. And some drift in and out, depending on how much time they have.

      • BB says:

        I do mostly here, but do some facebook too (On facebook, I’m Sandy Beech). Very little chatzy for me – it’s too hard to keep up with the conversation.

      • jules says:

        I post both her and FB chismosa but I find FB an easier way to keep read and keep track of who wrote what. For example, there are several posts here I would just love to hit the “Like” button for but that’s not an option so I usually don’t bother commenting. FB is just a little bit easier to work with than WordPress sometimes.

        • I’m a 3-fer I’m all over the place. Like a bad penny I just keep turning up.
          Chimosa I agree with you. But Tre will never leave RHONJ is here “show” and she has the Vicki-ster mindset that she won’t be pushed off HER show. I watch I laugh I don’t care.
          I got all up in arms last season and lost it here on the blogs. Not this year!
          I guess I’d have to be invested in this charade to care and I gave that up for my sanity.
          Now I watch, read, roll my eyes and read others comments here.
          I like to see many view points since I gave up having one in relation to these stupid HW shows. I actually had to unfollow the Princesses of LI because their constant tweets and retweets filled up my feed. They are selfish, boorish, losers in my opinion. And I like my twitter to be filled with more fun tweets. I do enjoy Faux Milania and her tweets.

  26. Jules says:

    I think Andy and production showing Joe talking about autism was an attempt to get that community to hate him and then at reunion say how dare you say things about autism (like trying to make him antigay). When I found them kind and uplifting and think it is a big backfire on andys part. NOW, Joe Gorga praising Chris for not leaving his family is the offensive commit that should be brought up at reunion.

    • missusmc says:

      Yes! This!

    • BB says:

      Good point, probably true.

    • chismosa says:

      he really didn’t say anything that bad, maybe Andy will ask for ‘clarification’ — ughhh. I hope it doesn’t become a ManicJacqAttack at the reunion on that??!. He’s on his best behavior this year. Andy will be pulling at straws.

      • iceNfire says:

        I see no reason to even watch the reunion this year. It will just be a continuation of the same unresolved issues ๐Ÿ“ 

    • Rebecca says:

      Juicy seems to know “stuff.” He did call out Chris for being shady. Perhaps he knew Chris was thinking about leaving Jacqueline and has since changed his mind.

  27. Lulu says:

    Good Afternoon All!!! Hope everyone is having a lovely day! BB I’d love to bring Aiden for a baby playdate on the beach!! ๐Ÿ™‚ That would be very nice!! Took the governor to a spray park in my area. He had soo much fun that he didn’t want to leave and got his mommy wet! ๐Ÿ™‚ Fun!!!

    MTH fair warning when using such words as “hooha!” My computer and keyboard were sprayed with iced coffee ๐Ÿ™‚ Another great recap!

  28. Kat From Ohio says:

    did kathy and jacqueline have a falling out? because kathy has been very critical of jac in the talking heads. i would guess that she and teresa are fine. i also think that caroline has wised up to melissa. i think the current dynamic is really interesting and has potentially changed A LOT.

    two of my favorites yesterday were rosie and juicy. they seemed like the most sensible people at the retreat, except for kathy maybe. both seemed to genuinely want the retreat to work. juicy in general has been a voice of reason (albeit a grumbling, caveman-ish one) since last season, aside from the vineyard incident. despite andy’s best efforts to ‘expose’ juicy, he really doesn’t offend me at all, especially when compared to richie. i would never want a relationship like teresa/joe have, but i really don’t think he’s as bad as some might argue.

    anyway, the only reality show i wholeheartedly enjoy anymore is rupaul’s drag race. there’s bickering, but everyone puts it aside and the queens all form a sisterhood. they’re all so funny and glamorous and that is what i enjoy seeing in a reality show.

    i am looking forward to bethenny’s talk show. i wonder how alex mccord is doing. i really like the new jeff lewis show, property envy.

    • VV says:

      That’s an interesting point about Jac and BitterClown. I noticed a little of that but it depends on when the TH were filmed.
      Also, think Teresa and Carolina were able to settle their differences off camera as Carolina is not on a destroy mission aimed at Yeresa this season (it seems). Teresa has been semi positive about Carolina too.
      All this seems extremely odd after last season and their many ugly confrontations last season.

    • lori says:

      Watching the videos Joe and Rosie explain wine and Italy made me like both of them a lot more than I ever thought I would. They are cute together.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        I loved those videos – those two actually like and respect each other. I also found it neat that Juicy and Teresa included Rosie during their exercises at the retreat.

    • mrs peabody says:

      Juicy doesn’t bother me that much either, granted I don’t like some of the things he says about his wife at all but I think Richie is worse.

  29. VV says:

    Jeff, thank you for the great blog. You have managed to put some humor on a very dark show. You are saying what we all want to say and that is we are getting fed up with this crap week in and week out.
    The only reason that we watch is to point at the inconsistencies of the story lines, to call the BS out and to make fun of the cast. Bravo is too stupid to think we watch for other reasons. It’s getting all. May The Force Be with you for the rest of the season.

    PS Like “Pig” … might steel it from you ๐Ÿ˜‰

  30. VV says:

    Melissa and Jac Crapofestos are up!!! Melissa and Jac Crapofestos are up!!!

    • BB says:

      Why is Jac writing a Crapofesto? She was barely in the episode.

    • lori says:

      Just read them and I have to say Jac seemed rational in her response. I have to give her credit for either finding someone to write her blogs or finding her inner sane person.

      • Amalfi says:

        I can’t read her sh*t, but if someone else wrote it, I might be willing.

        • Powell says:

          Amalfi I had to stop reading her blogs. I literally got a headache everytime I tried to read them. Gretch has nothing on Jac when it comes to writing her blogs.

      • missusmc says:

        I agree. It was a surprisingly well thought out response.

    • Vegas Chick says:

      Melissa is getting slammed. One funny but really true response re: Mrs & Mrs Opie: “Well, Melissa, I just have to say this: the 2 team-trainers should have walked in carrying chainsaws and shovels – at least y’all might have taken them more seriously!

    • Powell says:

      VV you didn’t say “Crapofestos”? LOL. I’m just seeing things. MTH see what you’ve started. ๐Ÿ˜€

  31. lori says:

    Watching the previews for next week. I cannot take how Bravo loves to film these people in the tub. It just grosses me out. I don’t want to see that crap from ANY of them. And the guy bringing Juicy and Tre wine while they are naked (at least appearing to be naked) just NOOOOOOOOO!

  32. princesspindy says:

    BB, Happy Birthday…..It’s Just Jack’s world and we are all living in it!!!

    Jeff, great job, just so you know I read it in my mind in a grumpy, pissed off voice, lol!! BURN, with the practice on her knees comment, lol. I actually winced and said, “ooohhh” then laughed!!

    I liked Rosie this episode, she seemed like she really wanted this to workout, her comment when Joe went to get an apology cracked me up “now this is bad”, understatement of the night!

    The comments by “The Average Joe” on autism didn’t bother me, cuz he is uninformed, uneducated and he didn’t say anything offensive, I imagine his views are what “The Average Joe” would say IPPHO…..I have heard much more offensive things from supposedly educated and concerned people… the one woman who told me we should call my son Mike instead of Mikey (age 8) and that would change everything SERIOUSLY, why the phuck didn’t the doctors tell us that and why have we been spending all this money on experts when all we had to do was that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!! LOL!!! So at least Joe had some positive things to say, no he doesn’t understand the hardships, etc, but he does know what a Drama Queen,( I can’t remember what she is supposed to be referred to as…….the former friend?), is……
    So like I have called him “the voice of reason” before….he is “The Average Joe”…..

  33. lulu says:

    Mego claims that joegui “cheated or is cheating” on tre. Now if that were true wouldn’t this woman leak it or somehow sneak her way on the show? Think about what kind of women he would attract. Mego is FOS!

    • princesspindy says:

      She “whispered” it while she had on a MICROPHONE!!!

      • Overit! says:

        It just boggles my mind each one can’t say, “I’ve made mistakes and I apologize for MY part in this situation!” each one has been a very destructive piece of this puzzle and if they all took some ownership I can’t for the life of me understand why they couldn’t move forward from there! I’m still hoping Dr.V from LA shrinks comes next week!! I just love her!

        • Dixie says:

          Because no one will acknowledge that this situation is the result of multiple failings by everyone!

    • Vegas Chick says:

      No news there. Of course, he cheated on her. (groaning in the phone to one of his business partners…sure Joe). Teresa didn’t know what to do but hike her skirt up? Geez! Guy was hanging around AC while Teresa was out peddling her wares. Is he still cheating? If he did it once, he will do it again. Joe Guidice only cares about himself and possibly his children.

      • Amalfi says:

        I think like Al, he probably also cares for his wife in a different way than the mistresses.

        Not sure how men function with that mindset… or the women who accept that.

      • iceNfire says:

        That scene where Juicy played ‘monster’ with his children was too fake for me

      • chismosa says:

        I know, how can we really question IF he cheats? We all saw the groan-y see you next Tuesday moment in the vineyards with Teresa overcompensating. You are so right Vegas.

    • Mrs Peabody says:

      why is it ok for her to say that about Joe but not anyone to say it about her? Just wondering. Whose to say it’s not just as true about her as she thinks it is about him.

      • chismosa says:

        Because so far— we haven’t seen her on screen, miked talking sexually to her secret lover. Yet

  34. lillybee says:

    Happy Birthday, BB.

  35. Orson says:

    Am I the only one who noticed that it was Teresa who was driving the SUV to the retreat site and Joe was in the passenger seat? Maybe he still doesn’t have a license?

    And yes, I also think some of the nick names assigned to the cast by folks here are inappropriate. For one thing, they’re confusing. Unless someone’s in on it, they don’t know who you’re talking about. And now that I’ve said that, I’ll backtrack and submit that we agree refer to Teresa’s husband as “Joe” and her brother as “Joey” for clarification and ease of typing.

  36. shamrockblonde says:

    I had no issue with Juicy or with Rosie this episode – not sure what changed Rosie’s mind about T, but she seemed to be supporting her – even in the party bus, she seemed pained by the comments being made – just because Juicy is not educated does not mean that he is unaware of the situation with Nicholas – he clearly loves his children and seems to have a genuine soft spot for children in general – as for the fight – I’m with Jeff – I hope Joe got in some good punches!! – they may all be wrong, but Joey’s “kiss my ring and kiss the ground I walk on if you want all to be forgiven” attitude toward T is a real window into his immaturity – and to how much control Mel has over him –

    *hugs Jeff really hard* – I was very sorry to hear the news of your friend’s Mother – she and all of her care shall be in my prayers – she is now at peace, she will never be afraid, or in pain ever again and she lives on in your friends’ heart, in her memories, and in her love –

  37. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Good Morning everyone.

    Thanks for the blog.
    I was seriously cracking up when Mel fell to her knees in front of Teresa. I have no idea how T was able to restrain herself because if I were her, I also would have made comments about her being familiar with that position.

    • Cartwheels says:

      I bet Melissa was hoping that Teresa would say something or cracked a joke, that would had worked perfect with her plan to blame Teresa for all the rumors about her past.

      I am glad that Teresa contained her self and didn’t fall for that obvious trick.

  38. Laineylainey says:

    At home today, hoping the beef jerky will fall off. Watching my dvr’d Wendy. She thinks Teresa needs help. She said Joe Guidice should get her off the show and get her help stat. No mention of how Joe Gorga started the fight. Etc. She has always hated Tre. Regarding Jac. She said Jac should have her own show about parenting a child with autism. She said she LOVES Richie.

    • BB says:

      Maybe Wendy’s the one who needs help!

      • plainviewsue says:

        Wendy literally called Teresa mentally ill. Yet when Teresa was on the show, she called her her favorite HW & commended her parenting. Today she slammed it.

        The fact that she loves Richie is all I need to know on who is really mentally ill.

        • Amalfi says:

          Wendy is horrible. Talks out of two sides of her mouth. She wants Teresa to leave and has for several seasons, disguising it as being for her own good. Yuk, Wendy. At least be honest.

          She adores Richie. That pretty much says everything I need to know about Wendy Williams.

    • shamrockblonde says:

      and she thinks TRE needs help…………… *shudders thinking of Richie*

    • AZGirl says:

      I never watch that woman. There is something totally “off” with her. Really, Jac should have her own show. What show was she watching? Jac is nuts. Chris facial expressions speaks for itself. She loves Ritchie? Wait until his first twitter racist rant. That will end that lovefest.

      • chismosa says:

        i’m just saying, and please don’t kill me!– but if you don’t follow ANY twitter, or ANY blogs or anything of that matter- and JUST watch the show alone- with NOTHING to support- Richie is kind of sort of maybe a little bit harmless. But ONLY if……

        I hate social media. I wish it was 2001 again. yuck

    • chismosa says:

      but she’s making comments now after seeing the show– didn’t she see Tre BEFORE the season started, or just 1 or 2 episodes in? I may be confused.

      Lainey! so many questions i have about the peel— i’m going to do it on the Health page, this week, i promise!

      Feel better Jerky

      • chismosa says:

        and fwiw, no one here ever likes Wendy so i never expect anyone to like anything she says here. When she says something good it’s never taken well anyway. Why does anyone tune in then? I tune in because i like her—i don’t get people not liking her watching. And i hate watch lots of things
        God i hope Kris and Beth’s show fail … sighhhhhhh

        • Laineylainey says:

          Chismosa!!!! I don’t hate Wendy, I was merely reporting her take on last nights episode. I don’t agree with her but it doesn’t mean I don’t like her. I dvr it everyday and look forward to the hot topics. I don’t have to agree with everything she says …in fact, I have seen her be kinda mean to guests. I don’t condone treating folks badly,,,but I still like her even though she is not perfect. She is not the cookie cutter host…I like that she is unique and she is brave and mostly unapologetic. She’s a smart cookie.

  39. Laineylainey says:

    Chismosa, is the Mexican cop, Marco or Marcos?

  40. plainviewsue says:

    Jeff, as always, a superb job! I commented on the Let’s Chat blog.

    Suffice to say, Teresa’s sister in law and brother are the scum of the earth.

    I once again like Rosie.

    I still hate Richie.

    I still love Teresa.

    Who else is on the show???

  41. Laineylainey says:

    Great recap, MTH

  42. Just Wondering in Jersey says:

    Super job Mel. Thanks so much for all your hard work.

    The happiest of birthdays to BB.

    I’m liking Joe Guidice and Rosie much better after this episode. Tre’s in-laws can take a long walk off a short pier and drown as far as I am concerned.

  43. designernailsdiana says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  44. KTinCT says:

    Happy Birthday, BB ๐Ÿ™‚

  45. VV says:

    Melissa and Joe perfect for each other.
    He is Poison and she’s a Snake.

  46. Nancy says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY BB. I hope it’s a great one. Jack is adorable. )

  47. melthehound says:

    Good afternoon everyone. Happy Birthday BB ๐Ÿ˜€ Hope you are having a great one.

    Thank you all for your comments.

    Last Thursday my nephew called me and asked me to watch his two kids during the day for the summer so that is what most of my early days will be spent doing.

  48. windycitywondering2 says:

    Rosie and Joey Explain: Italy!
    New video up on Bravo!
    It sounds really Italiany!!

  49. Cityside says:

    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to our BB
    Happy Birthday to you….lalalalalala and many more….la la la la la la la la la


    sing along now ya’ all.

  50. Cityside says:

    BB, my grandson is sitting up, and trying to crawl. I told her mom not to teach him that because it only leads to walking, talking, and all that other stuff you wish they did not do when they become teenagers!


    • princesspindy says:

      I have told my kids many times the dumbest thing I ever did was to teach them to walk and talk, lol!!

  51. Cityside says:

    To Theresa, your brother is not supposed to stick with your “blood” once he gets married. Now his BLOOD is his wife and children. You are out.


  52. AZGirl says:

    Youse guys were so funny with the comments on last night’s chat. Rebecca’s dwarf toss comment was hilarious. Mel and Joey are money hungry morons who will take down a family to make money on a reality show. Shame on them!

  53. VV says:

    I think the Manzos and Lauritas backed out of the Retreat at the last minute. It dies not make sense that Bravo rented a jumbo size bus for 5 people.

  54. Powell says:

    PrincessP everytime I see “Just Jack” it makes me smile. ๐Ÿ™‚

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