Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E9 – On Thin Guid-Ice

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-cast-and-info-rev_1Welcome back friends, to Crapfest 2013.. This week, I found it particularly brown if you get my gross meaning. Once again, I had a better time reading the comments than watching the show. We had a particular story line emerging. Cusi77 wants MeGo’s blouse. So does Thestoryoflivingwithautism. Both would welcome Windycitywondering buying it for them and Nancy wants to borrow it from one of them. Cusi agrees to the loan but wants to make sure she will get the blouse back. WCW doesn’t seem to care about the blouse, says with the right info, she will buy them for the other ladies but, she wants Teresa’s sweater. Dilema dilema… Somehow, even if things went awry, I think these 4 women could work out their differences far better than anything I’ve seen on this show. I just wanted to make that point, I wasn’t busting anyone’s chops for wardrobe wishes. For those of you interested but haven’t seen it yet, here is Closetfreaks recap of last week’s show.

When we left off last week, Dr V had finished, sort of, with Joey and Teresa and had summoned MeGo. This was a lot more of Teresa is in the middle of everything, especially the cheating rumors. I think even Joey groaned at this one. I still fail to understand how it is Teresa’s fault that MeGo’s friends talk shit about her and her marriage. Maybe I’m just stupid that way. The two of them half heartedly hug it out though and all is supposed to be right with the world. Next they summon Joe to get a read on what his malfunction is.ย What I got from this was V was under the impression that Joe had started this fight and asked him what happened. She said that Joe charged Joey. Remember what I said last week about paid for by Bravo TV shrinks? Naturally neither of the Gorgas bothered to correct her. Neither did Teresa. We all know what kind of hell she would have caught for doing so. Joe did but, whatever. MeGo wants us to believe that she tried to stop the fight. What I saw was, MeGo slapping and scratching at Joe’s face and then after the fight Did end, she went after Teresa. I forget who stopped her though. I think if she had reached Teresa, then T would have handed her her ass and taken great pleasure in doing so. Anyway, She convinces Joe to make nice, he does, there are tears from Teresa and Dr V is on her way out. He even made nice with the female Gorga stating somewhere that if that’s what it took to end the BS, then fine, Sorry. You see, Dr V wasn’t there for everybody, just the two Gs. Giudice and Gorga. I guess Bravo couldn’t spring for a full house therapy session. Kathy is disappointed that she doesn’t get any face time with the famous LA shrink, Dr V. Consider yourself lucky, Kathy… Richie just wanted to sit next to Dr V and make rude comments and gestures. I think she couldn’t have gotten away from that bunch of nuts fast enough. What else did we get from this? Another Teresa-ism. Nip it in the butt. Laugh all you want about that but given the crew we are talking about, I think that is an appropriate line. Notice I didn’t give this therapy session very much time. In fact, I gave it more than it deserves. At least one of the people there has no intention of having anything change so just like the last therapy we saw on this show, it was rather pointless. These things don’t get solved in minutes or even hours especially when someone doesn’t want them to be solved. No feud with Teresa, no point of being on the show, MeGo.

The men, decide to grab a guide, and go ice fishing, along with Rosie. I think this was just another excuse to drink but hey, at least they aren’t swinging at each other or biting balls. Yet. The women, Teresa and Kathy, commandeer the kitchen to cook dinner and get drunk. Don’t worry friends, there is plenty of booze to go around here. I guess Rosie can’t cook so she went with the men. Well, Joe and the two boys, Richie and Joey. While at the fishin hole, Richie the shit stirrer decides to ask who won the fight. Please. Someone open one of those holes in the ice a little more and stuff Richie into the lake. We get to hear about the size of Joe’s tallywhacker from the Gorga Folletto as he brags about grabbing Joe.. I’m surprised he didn’t describe the taste (don’t worry my friends, this isn’t the last pecker talk we will hear on this show). All he’s done is confirm that he fights like a bitch. Rosie is nervous that the fight will start again. Joe promises to kick his ass again, if need be.

Back at the castle ranch, the women folk are doing the cooking. Well, two of them are, Teresa and Kathy. MeGo is more focused on getting crocked and bitch about the kitchen heat messing up her make up. Somehow, I think it is her that doesn’t or can’t cook. I don’t get where Joey or anyone else for that matter, ever got the idea that Teresa doesn’t cook. Momz said she wasn’t cooking, she was invited or asked to come, she expects to be served. The men decide that this ice fishing trip is pointless and realize how stupid they must look sitting in the middle of a frozen lake on plastic buckets with short sticks in their hands. So they pack it in and head back. They arrive just about as the food is ready and themselves begin to partake in the spirits. They sit down, together, for dinner, along with Momz (you didn’t forget about her did you?) and the party is on. This scene was basically played out last season during the cook off during the Napa trip. As long as there is food and booze, these people can find it in themselves to get along with each other and even have fun. Teresa raises her glass to thank Momz for coming (to promote her book) to help. T wants us to believe that Momz, that morning, drove 4 hours to be there. Sorry, Teresa, we all saw Momz get out of the back passenger side of the SUV that brought her to the castle, on cue from production. She may have Ridden there but she damn sure didn’t drive. Besides, we are also to believe that the Sourpuss Manzoid, at 6am or something like that, was wide awake and aware. Yet, supposedly, she tweeted last week that the reason she looked like shit is she was hung over from the night before. Maybe I am being too harsh on the Manzoid. Who knows?

Anyway, getting on with this dinner… Teresa and Kathy apologize to each other, in front of everyone, for comments made about each other’s parents during the S4 reunion. So now, no one can say that neither ever apologized to the other, ever again. If that was the only point of contention between them, then that feud should be squashed. Somewhere in this we get one of those nice little scenes where they are talking about their daughters and boys. Antonia is trained to look away from the TV when the kissing scenes are shown. Gabriella doesn’t like to watch them either. Milania half looks but probably knows she isn’t supposed to. Meanwhile, the booze continues to flow. Speaking of which, Joe said that he thought the Lauritas may come to this thing so he brought them a bottle of his wine. Since they aren’t there, he asks Momz to deliver it for him. Richie spouts off with the notion that Joe should just take it over there himself. Part of me says he’s right. Momz is far too involved in this mess as it is.

I think, during dinner, Momz thinks it would be a good idea to call the F-Nut Jacalope. She happens to be home, with St Chris, making pancakes for Nicolas. However, she can’t seem to bust the 20 year old sugar apart that is the essential ingredient for pancakes for a 3yo kid. Is she going to Bake the pancakes? This woman is really an idiot and as we’ll see (more of), a vile one at that. Momz tells her where she is and I’m certain we are about to hear of another body part that needs some sort of maintenance. Poor Nicolas. Fortunately, we didn’t see him this episode. Bravo, why can’t we have an episode without that woman’s face on it? It would be infinitely better than anything she might add to the show, which isn’t a damn thing.

After dinner, they decide to do this fall back exercise where someone is supposed to catch another person from hitting the floor. Joe is to be caught by MeGo… He doesn’t want to do it because he believes he’s too heavy for her to catch him. He’s right. They all hit the floor. Richie wants to get in on the act and catch Rosie… Dude, get your hands off of your SIL’s boobs. Apparently he is also interested in the afro between her legs. Did I hear that right? I wonder what excuses Kathy will make for him this week in her crapfesto. Teresa wants to catch Momz. Momz will only agree to it if Teresa agrees to make nice with her arch enemy, the Jacalope (think about it my friends, there is ALWAYS a condition with Momz. Last season or the one before, she couldn’t or wouldn’t accept any apology from Teresa unless it was the Right one – whatever the phuck that meant). This is something Teresa doesn’t want to do. She still believes that the F-Nut is behind 90 percent of her current family problems. I’ve watched the show and I agree. However, she agrees to make the effort. I think she should have told Momz to go F herself on that one but what do I know? Jac has shit on their relationship every chance she’s had and I don’t think for one second it should be up to Teresa to make that first approach. Teresa says she will do it for Nicolas. Momz says not to but for themselves. Ummm, Momz, Teresa can do it for whatever reason she sees fit. How about having that litter of yours apologize to Teresa for all of their foul mouthed shit?

Now, this is just creepy and the F Nut shows her true character in this one. She doesn’t want anything to do with Teresa, she’s made that clear (although her nose has been so far up Teresa’s ass, she can count T’s fillings from the inside). There was no reason to put her in this episode other than the idea she feels the need to write her crapfesto novellas about something. So she has to be on the screen to justify having something to say at the Bravo blog site. We learn that CJ is entering puberty and when St Chris was that age, he had a special sock that could stand up in the corner. I’ll let you all mull that one around for awhile. Jac doesn’t want to think about her son in that way but she has no problem thinking about others. You see, her little tidbit this week is, in addition to bleaching her asshole and waxing her hooha, She also drops the bomb that she thinks Joey, at age 9, lost his virginity to his sister (yes, I know that she was probably joking but still a vile thing to say). Yeah. Tell me again that I am the disgusting one and have crossed some grey line when I take these bitches to task about what they say and describing what I think of them. I am done with this one and her cackle. Her future appearances on the show will get the fast forward treatment. From what I’m seeing in the previews, that may make for some pretty short recaps.

In the final scene, Teresa and Joe are discussing this Jac thing that Teresa agreed to (I still say she shouldn’t have).. T believes that making up with family is one thing because you are stuck with them (no you aren’t).. But friends are chosen and when they hurt you, sometimes it is not repairable and the hurt is much more intense. Joe tells her to suck it up if she wants to mend things with Jac and be the bigger person (in so many words). Maybe then, he’ll get to have play dates with Chris again. Ooooh Fun!!

Some other tidbits from the show… When Dr V left, Kathy finally eggmits, she doesn’t count in the grand scheme of things. MeGo eggmitsย she’s a drunken whore. Don’t shoot the messenger, she said it and she was drunk at the time. Sorry Fanny Andy, I am not amazed, choked up, or brought to tears. I have seen this all from these people before and it didn’t end well then. I know that you have other shit on the horizon for us to dash the illusion that these people are ever going to be good with each other. There is always a finale to set the scene for the next season and it’s always something awful that one has done to the other. Then of course we have the reunion where everyone gets to address the TH interviews and cast blogs, that are filmed and written much later. Oh yes… MeGo knows which finger to flip at the cameras when talking about Teresa. Almost forgot about that one. Classy lady, eh? On Display On Display… Still missing Fran, the pig, and Frito giving his own opinion by pissing on the floors of the Manzo mansion..

What else did we learn… Apparently, from reading the comments, the F Nut’s daughter is trashing 12 and under girls on twitter or something like that. Smooth move Jac. Not only are you a pig but so is your daughter. I guess I can’t blame Ashley though, when your own mother throws you in front of the world to trash you every week for the sake of a Bravo paycheck, can’t really expect much else from Ashley. In that same vein, we have a new name for the F Nut… Bloroxina (thank you LaineyLainey). Noelle gives us, CrackJac. I’ve never liked her but it seems that Jac use to be liked around here. What happened? TMI about her body parts? ๐Ÿ˜‰

Get ready kids… If you’ve been going through Manzoid withdrawal, next week is your show when Momz has the mommy and daddy weren’t normal parents talk with their young ones. That’s what the preview looks like anyway.

See you then.

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Happy Birthday RealHousewifeVA

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383 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E9 – On Thin Guid-Ice

  1. BB says:

    Happy Birthday, RealHousewiveVA! Hope it’s a good one!

    Enjoyed the first paragraph of your recap, MTH. Didn’t read past it because I don’t really care about any of them, but I’m sure it’s an interesting read. Hope everyone has a great day!

  2. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It’s Monday again. I know. I’m off but off to the docs so Iget at least one more day of R&R after I get home. I hope everyone that experienced the floods is ok. Wow. So much water. 8-10 inches in most places. Well I hope everyone has a great day.

    • chismosa says:

      Wow I had t heard about flooding —- be safe everyone!

    • chismosa says:

      Ok — whatever / blah blah/ in the words of GG— fart:

      —-Juicy is just so freakin moody – like I totally understand what Joey meant. Sometimes he IS nice to them all and then other times he’s such an a$$hole. I don’t know, maybe it has to do with when he sees his mistress or what -but he is very up and down with Joey (and his wife….and his kids…..) I’ll give them that. Of course — editing —– could be it but he is not stable in his nice vs unnice days. Juicy needs some Midol or maybe some Lexapro. Who knows. I know he’s the king around here but just sayin !

      —-I know she’s the Devil and it’s all always her fault, but Melissa but if I had gone through some ridiculous Bravo set up therapy that was supposed to clear 10+\- years of issues id want a drink too!! And I hardly drink. I’m in my 30’s, if I had kids and I was away from them damn STRAIGHT id be drinking! Big deal? If I was in my 40s or maybe even 50s id enjoy some drinks. My mother is 73 and loves to have some cockytails with her friends when they have reunions (not all the time of course).
      Not hamming up my “cooking” abilities (really prepping/ mise en plasse)for the cameras and my adoring fans ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท.
      ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„
      I loved seeing Kathy (I know I know everyone hates her too)– cook savory because she’s such a pastry cook— she wanted to do everything precisely and that’s SUCH the baking people! I hate cooking without exact recipes and i know bakers are like chemists when it comes to measurements. Cute ! ๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿช

      And disclaimer: no i don’t have a drinking problem. I’m sorry so many here are quick to diagnose drinking issues but if you’re like me & it’s not in the family, not biological, never had issues — I can ENJOY drinking and being away from my children, HAPPILY!! I had a very close friend who dropped off the face of the earth after joining AA despite us NEVER putting her in uncomfortable positions of drinking near her and I remember thinking- how sad for her that she can’t get tipsy or just “fun” drunk again, or just plainly enjoy a simple cocktail. I truly felt for her. She’s sort of fell into the cultish aspects of AA.
      I mean I guess it’s the time and place to call out Mel for her “victim” thing to st. Teresa of Paterson but I never saw Mel drink in a mean way last night? She was having fun, giving drinks to all the gals, having fun with everyone at the sitting room — was this my Mars goggles again? I guess …so much like the Kenny Rogers roasters chicken and Kramer living above the lights. I’m not seeing this straight I guess? But that’s to be expected with me I suppose ๐Ÿ‘“๐Ÿ™ˆ

      —-Wtf is Italian food mixed with Brazilian??? Never ever heard of that ….. And there are churascerias all near my area. Weird
      I know that a huge percentage of argentines are Italian but Italian food with a touch of Brazilian? Weird

      —My new expression from last night : we gotta make MENDS
      Hahahaha!!!

      —Even Juicy finally drilled into Tre’s 6 inch deep brain to say “if you keep bringing up the past”. For once juicy I agree.
      —-Was Jacqueline tre’s BFF? I thought Dina was? I know it’s handler Heather now but I never realized Jacq was IT for Tre, I.e. BEST friend. ? Or is this like the trend of calling all close friends your “best friend”?

      —-Not sure if anyone actually follows wackjacqattack on tweeter but does she ever address her nose transformation??? Just wondering

      —-Loved Melissa sticking it to them or to the “rumors” — see I am a whore! Lolllll. But since she’s the devil it’s true! You ARE Melissa you are!! Of course it’s true you trollop ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

      —Omg Andy stole my line—- Teresa 2.0!!! It’s 3.0 really.
      Hahahaaaa. Maybe he looked camera left to handler H as the montage played. Giggles

      —-As for the “blog” issue Tre brought up on WWH— at least Mel wrote her own blog and their directions from the ones who write their checks are to write FROM THAT TIME PERIOD. Tre doesn’t get it because she’s probably writing block letter notes to hand to Handler H. to decipher. Some people do write what they feel from the heart – take it or leave it! Tre you can’t say you “do the same thing”—- because post-its with sharpie marks do not a blog make. it’s heather who does it. Sorry you can’t * come from the heart*. Bryan Adams – straight from the heart
      —- But I’m glad at least that she called her. But if that wasnt brought up on WWH you KNOW this would be issue #45 of Tre’s master (memorized) hit list for Melissa at the reunion.

      —-Does Teresa realize Andy was correcting/mocking her brown chicken brown chow? I don’t feel like she got that he was mocking it.

      Can’t wait to analyze if WWH is live tonight lol
      ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

      Have a great day everyone.

      Husker— if you’re around — I’m going to get my ear looked at again. I feel that after 3 full days of drops I should be much better and i don’t feel that way.
      Hope you are well.

      • chismosa says:

        Woopsie that wasnt meant for here. Sorry Powell

        • Noelle says:

          @chismosa,
          I’m commenting on your ^^^^original post.
          (Said in the voice of ‘Dory’ from “Finding Nemo,”with a slight changes):
          Just KEEP scrolling, Just KEEP Scrolling, Just KEEP Scrolling… ๐Ÿ˜€
          I’m in a funky mood and just playin’ witch ya c-mosa! hee hee ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • chismosa says:

            I love Dory! Aren’t they making a sequel starring dory??

            Sorry ill put a disclaimer next time?

      • melthehound says:

        You are REALLY reaching with your hate for Teresa.

        • melthehound says:

          I would delete this but it’s been here all day. Chismosa, if you took this as a personal attack, you have my apologies. It was an attack on what you said, not on you.

          • chismosa says:

            MTH– no problem, really — I come across as taking things personally (?????) and it must be my writing style? I just saw this— no biggie— I know I’m minority in my hate for her.

            • melthehound says:

              I am betting after today, you will have some company around here ๐Ÿ˜‰ Glad for no problem…

      • Rebecca says:

        My grandfather was 100% Italian but born in raised in Brazil. Brazil is full of Italians. In fact, I had read somewhere that more than 25% of the population has Italian roots.

        Why is it that you condemn “Teresa” for Melissa’s ex-boyfriend putting it out there that she was cheating on Joey with him? It was Bryan who came forth. If you need to keep believing that Teresa started the rumors, that’s fine. But you’re actually just plain wrong.

        In the same post, you keep trying to keep the Juicy cheating rumors going. Nobody has come forward to say this is true. You have the word of Jacqueline Laurita and Melissa Gorga, whom are two people to be repeatedly proven to be liars. I don’t see that as being in good company.

        • chismosa says:

          Hi Rebecca — I go by what I saw to be largely free-flowing, limited editing, director’s cut of Juicy at the vineyard. Many here take some edits of their DEVIL at face value, so I am doing that with the upstanding Juicy and see you next Tuesday. Just me i guess. He is a grotesque pig and what I see of him with the daughters, not great. Again, JMHO. As I can state here.
          You can call something “wrong” when I think how others see certain others on the cast — called names—- wrong. We all have that choice.

          Also I’m looking to find where I “condemn” St Teresa of attacking the “cheating whore” Melissa. I don’t see that in my post? Sorry am I reading something incorrectly?? Where did I say that??

          And yes, I realized there are Italians in Brazil, though I thought Argentina had the largest of the diaspora. That is very cool about your family— my point was I have NEVER ever heard of that cuisine combo. Again, stating my opinion.

          Thanks so much – have a great night

      • HuskerHuny says:

        I’m here Chismosa. Just had a conversation with a friend of mine that I haven’t seen for a few months. He told me he had the same thing with his ear and eventually he had a tube put in it. The tube worked and stayed in for about a year. When it fell out, the ‘bad’ ear came back. He said it’s a drainage thing through the eustatian (sp) tube. My dr. told me my tube was swollen and that it was affecting my drainage. Just another story I wanted to share with you. Sounds like antibiotics might be in store for you lady. Somethings got to work sooner or later!

      • lizzle says:

        I can’t knock a passionate person, so while I disagree… I am not going to ruin your beautiful aria by saying too much. I 100% believe Melissa is a party mom… I have never said alcoholic. I hear Brandi and Juicy diagnosed as alcoholics all the time… but do not remember Melissa being called an alcoholic… but I could of missed it.

        • Powell says:

          I don’t believe any that you mentioned are alcoholics. I just think they enjoy themselves. I don’t even think Taylor from BH is an alcoholic. I feel she was just using it as a crutch at times to self medicate.

          • chismosa says:

            Yes my issue is simply the quick to call someone an alcoholic. That’s all!

            I get it Lizzle — and apologies for the “aria”!
            Lol! ^^^*^^

            It’s just I miss the chat all the time.

  3. chismosa says:

    Happy Birthday RHV!!!
    ๐ŸŽŠ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿชโญโญ๐ŸŽŠ๐ŸŽŠ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰

  4. Powell says:

    Happy Birthday Realhousewifeva.

    • Rebecca says:

      Happy Birthday RealHousewifeVA! If you live by a Cheesecake Factory, go to their Facebook page and they will send you a coupon for half-price cheesecake! Tomorrow is officially National Cheesecake Day, which explains my brother’s obsession with it (it’s his birthday).

      • realhousewifeva says:

        Thanks Powell and Rebecca, and thanks for that tip! That is where we were going to go tonight ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Powell says:

        I will be going straight to CCF after work tomorrow to buy me some cheesecake. Yummmmm. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Powell says:

        Rebecca I went to CCF FB & website and they have changed Mark Cheesecake Day. I always went after work and purchased 4 slices of different flavors 1/2 price each slice. Now its dine-in only & 1 slice per guest. It takes me 45 minutes to an he to get there from work. It’s not even worth it for me to get (1) slice. So I will save my gas & get cheesecake the next time I go shopping.

  5. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰HAPPY BIRTHDAY RHVA๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰ hope you have wonderful day my friend!!!!

  6. Rebecca says:

    Oh Mel…. do you watch this show with a punching bag in eyesight? It’s just so frustrating.

    Nobody will address Wacky Jacky’s behavior on their blog. Nobody will address Richie on their blog. They would be full of excuses for Jacqueline if they did because “she’s so hurt” when she’s actually the effing aggressor. She’s like Kelly’s Scary Island performance 24/7.

    • melthehound says:

      That’s okay… That’s why we are here. To address them and their bullshit. She gets no more passes from me and she’s had plenty.

      • Beckygrey says:

        What kind of statement did Jac make to her husband alluding to T being Joey’s first sexual experience? ( I don’t know how it was said but it amounts to scandalous) If I heard that I would have a difficult time being friends with a person that would say something that vile.Who says that even in jest?

      • plainviewsue says:

        Jeff, Lauren was the one who tweeted she had a hangover that morning in the house w/Caroline.

    • plainviewsue says:

      I agree Rebecca. Jac “apologized” for the comment. I can only imagine if Teresa or Juicy said the same thing about any of the other castmates. Andy would of pummeled Teresa on it last night.

      Kathy will never call out Richie. None of them will. Rosie should of called him out when they were ice fishing cos he stirred the proverbial pot.

      Richie has more air time than Kathy. And that’s just the way he likes it.

      • Powell says:

        I’m w/MTH. Jac gets no more passes. I don’t care if she hates every hair on Tres head why would she say that? Not only should you not say that about your worse enemy but why even form her lips to say that?

    • Powell says:

      Rebecca other than Caroline I think the others know she’s gone nuts so they just don’t address Jac. As far as Ritchie is concerned he’s an ass so why address it.

  7. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Great blog Jeff!!
    Jac has her Bravo blog up and her first paragraph is about the comment she made about Teresa and JoeGorga-she is totally #sorrynotsorry-it was a joke-her and Chris joke about it all the time and they even joked about to JoeGorgas face so we need to get over ourselves and move on….OK Jac-whatever you say!!!!!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Here’s the apology-thin as it is:

      Before I write anything, I want to apologize to Joe Gorga and Teresa for my comment about them that was in bad taste. I’m talking about the comment when I told Chris that I hoped it wasn’t Teresa that Joe Gorga lost his virginity to when he was 9 years old. That was my sarcastic sense of humor coming out. It came from me thinking back to the awkward flirty comments Joe and Teresa made to each other last year waiting for their therapy session together. “You smell good.” and “Red is a sexy color.” It was kind of an inside joke between us all that Teresa and Joe were in love with each other and maybe that is where all the jealousy was coming from. That comment really wasn’t meant for public viewing, because it’s something my husband and I would joke around about in
      private. We have even teased Joe Gorga about it before to his face and he laughs with us. Do I REALLY feel they slept together? Of COURSE NOT! Don’t be silly. Moving onโ€ฆ

      • melthehound says:

        Too late phuck nut. That comment has grown legs and run around the world already.

      • Rebecca says:

        OH THIS MAKES IT ALL OK:

        “It was kind of an inside joke between us all that Teresa and Joe were in love with each other and maybe that is where all the jealousy was coming from. That comment really wasnโ€™t meant for public viewing, because itโ€™s something my husband and I would joke around about in private. ”

        This woman is certifiable.

      • lori says:

        Yeah a “private” joke in front of cameras OKKKKKKKKK!

        • Cartwheels says:

          Yeap, just a little silly joke. I wonder if Teresa will use this “little joke” as her story line for the next two seasons ala Caroline, it would serve them well.

          • lizzle says:

            I know you are being sarcastic and didn’t really want an answer… but Teresa won’t use this against Jaq for 2 seasons… which is why Teresa has so many fans… she can really forgive to move forward. With everyone else… it is like pulling teeth to even figure out what their problem is… which I still don’t understand, even after the question has been asked hundreds of times by hundreds of people… there are still no facts to support the hate. Teresa has facts… the rest have nothing… yet Teresa forgives time and time again.

            • Powell says:

              Lizzle if we would get straight answers as to why Mel, Joey, Ritchie, Rosie & Jac hate Tre so much I would be satisfied w/NJ. But since every last one of them have imagined hatred I know we will never hear the truth

        • mrs peabody says:

          I can’t even imagine saying something like that in private about a current or past friend. Those are 2 sick people (both wacky and wacky husband) and even sicker to say it in front of a camera. If I was Tre and saw that and don’t care if I had made up with them or not that would end any relationship I had with them now, all they would get from me at this point going forward was hi (bitch in my head). If I was Joey I would also be rethinking my friendship with them. If they say something like that then they must think it and what does that say about what they think of me.

          • melthehound says:

            Here is my real take on that whole dinner convo… People around here were all up in arms about the embarrassment for Gia when T took her shopping for her first training brar and discussing the ‘visits’ she would have monthly for most of her adult life. I will guarantee you that no 11 or whatever he is, boy, wants his Mom and Dad, telling the world, he whacks off. Her ‘joke’ about Teresa and Joey just added to the sick factor of the entire scene.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              I will eggmit I thought the bra shopping and the monthly visit talk was embarrassing for Gia-but she was there and knew it was being filmed-NOT excusing it just saying she was part of it-this poor CJ has no idea his parents are selling him and his future activities out during dinner as a way to have a convo-to me it’s worse b/c he has no say in it. Who the hell wants their parents talking about this crap on TV????? Or EVER???

              • melthehound says:

                None that I can think of…

              • missusmc says:

                Jacqueline also said they initially suspected autism in CJ because he was so reserved and kept to himself. He of course is a typical child, but in blogs and interviews, Jacqueline has said that CJ is introverted and highly sensitive. Not that you should “out” ANY child for “self love” or anything else that is embarrassing regarding puberty; but you especially should be protective of one who is so sensitive. If he isn’t very social at school already, this is going to hurt him even more. It’s just wrong, wrong, wrong! (And I agree that Gia shouldn’t have been shopping on camera for her first bra, but I think that’s an embarrassment that will happen when she is older and looking back. Most girls like to show off that they are wearing a bra when they are younger.)

            • windycitywondering2 says:

              The shopping trip didn’t bother me because Gia agreed to it (just like Teresa agrees to Gabrielle not wanting to be filmed), nor did Juicy talking to Gia about boys. Puberty is a subject that I consider private between parent and sibling. The retreat table talk about puberty (kissing and dating) was fine as well. BUT what Wacky Jacky did went way beyond acceptable. She has no qualms about running over either Nicholas or CJs privacy for a storyline – wrong, wrong, wrong! And her shady husband ventured too far into TMI land as well.

              • Laineylainey says:

                There’s no comparison with a mother/father and daughter choosing to film together about their own lives (bra shopping/talking about boys). Its all in a days work when you’re parenting….vs, an old loon sharing her incestual fantasies with an unsuspecting public about a brother and sister who are not there to set her straight. She’s losing all semblance of dignity, even feigned loyalty to anyone is hard to find in this one…she wasn’t loyal to her daughter, nor her friends, her husband (throwing him under the bus for calling the Guidice’s p.o.s) and now she’s even betraying herself. We know you don’t care about anyone, Jac, but even yourself?

          • Powell says:

            And now that it was said on tv is Joey gonna still laugh & joke w/it? If Tre says “Joey I didn’t like or appreciate what Jac said about us.” Is Joey gonna say “Tre it was a joke.”? And will Mel let that slide w/Jac? Cause everyone else can say something & its ok but if Tre says something or if they even think Tre says something & she didn’t they want to put her in front of a firing squad.

    • Powell says:

      Ok. So it will be ok to say the same thing about Chris but oh its just a joke!?! BS. Jac ment it. She’s been hell bent on hating Tre & bringing her down for whatever reason is in Jacs head.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Wacky will cross any line (personal, financial, sexual) to hurt someone and either say she was in a “bad place” or it was a “joke”. Just like Melissa and her seed planting accusations. They are both very aware of the damage they are doing and that viewers can’t unhear or unread what they deliberately put out there. And both of them fail to realize the reflection their actions have on themselves.

  8. chismosa says:

    CHIANINA here:

    Ok โ€” whatever / blah blah/ in the words of GGโ€” fart:

    โ€”-Juicy is just so freakin moody โ€“ like I totally understand what Joey meant. Sometimes he IS nice to them all and then other times heโ€™s such an a$$hole. I donโ€™t know, maybe it has to do with when he sees his mistress or what -but he is very up and down with Joey (and his wifeโ€ฆ.and his kidsโ€ฆ..) Iโ€™ll give them that. Of course โ€” editing โ€”โ€“ could be it but he is not stable in his nice vs unnice days. Juicy needs some Midol or maybe some Lexapro. Who knows. I know heโ€™s the king around here but just sayin !

    โ€”-I know sheโ€™s the Devil and itโ€™s all always her fault, but Melissa but if I had gone through some ridiculous Bravo set up therapy that was supposed to clear 10+\- years of issues id want a drink too!! And I hardly drink. Iโ€™m in my 30โ€ฒs, if I had kids and I was away from them damn STRAIGHT id be drinking! Big deal? If I was in my 40s or maybe even 50s id enjoy some drinks. My mother is 73 and loves to have some cockytails with her friends when they have reunions (not all the time of course).
    Not hamming up my โ€œcookingโ€ abilities (really prepping/ mise en plasse)for the cameras and my adoring fans ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท.
    I loved seeing Kathy (I know I know everyone hates her too)โ€“ cook savory because sheโ€™s such a pastry cookโ€” she wanted to do everything precisely and thatโ€™s SUCH the baking people! I hate cooking without exact recipes and i know bakers are like chemists when it comes to measurements. Cute ! ๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿช

    And disclaimer: no i donโ€™t have a drinking problem. Iโ€™m sorry so many here are quick to diagnose drinking issues but if youโ€™re like me & itโ€™s not in the family, not biological, never had issues โ€” I can ENJOY drinking and being away from my children, HAPPILY!! I had a very close friend who dropped off the face of the earth after joining AA despite us NEVER putting her in uncomfortable positions of drinking near her and I remember thinking- how sad for her that she canโ€™t get tipsy or just โ€œfunโ€ drunk again, or just plainly enjoy a simple cocktail. I truly felt for her. Sheโ€™s sort of fell into the cultish aspects of AA.
    I mean I guess itโ€™s the time and place to call out Mel for her โ€œvictimโ€ thing to st. Teresa of Paterson but I never saw Mel drink in a mean way last night? She was having fun, giving drinks to all the gals, having fun with everyone at the sitting room โ€” was this my Mars goggles again? I guess โ€ฆso much like the Kenny Rogers roasters chicken and Kramer living above the lights. Iโ€™m not seeing this straight I guess? But thatโ€™s to be expected with me I suppose ๐Ÿ‘“๐Ÿ™ˆ

    โ€”-Wtf is Italian food mixed with Brazilian??? Never ever heard of that โ€ฆ.. And there are churascerias all near my area. Weird
    I know that a huge percentage of argentines are Italian but Italian food with a touch of Brazilian? Weird

    โ€”My new expression from last night : we gotta make MENDS
    Hahahaha!!!

    โ€”Even Juicy finally drilled into Treโ€™s 6 inch deep brain to say โ€œif you keep bringing up the pastโ€. For once juicy I agree.
    โ€”-Was Jacqueline treโ€™s BFF? I thought Dina was? I know itโ€™s handler Heather now but I never realized Jacq was IT for Tre, I.e. BEST friend. ? Or is this like the trend of calling all close friends your โ€œbest friendโ€?

    โ€”-Not sure if anyone actually follows wackjacqattack on tweeter but does she ever address her nose transformation??? Just wondering

    โ€”-Loved Melissa sticking it to them or to the โ€œrumorsโ€ โ€” see I am a whore! Lolllll. But since sheโ€™s the devil itโ€™s true! You ARE Melissa you are!! Of course itโ€™s true you trollop ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

    โ€”Omg Andy stole my lineโ€”- Teresa 2.0!!! Itโ€™s 3.0 really.
    Hahahaaaa. Maybe he looked camera left to handler H as the montage played. Giggles

    โ€”-As for the โ€œblogโ€ issue Tre brought up on WWHโ€” at least Mel wrote her own blog and their directions from the ones who write their checks are to write FROM THAT TIME PERIOD. Tre doesnโ€™t get it because sheโ€™s probably writing block letter notes to hand to Handler H. to decipher. Some people do write what they feel from the heart โ€“ take it or leave it! Tre you canโ€™t say you โ€œdo the same thingโ€โ€”- because post-its with sharpie marks do not a blog make. itโ€™s heather who does it. Sorry you canโ€™t * come from the heart*. Bryan Adams โ€“ straight from the heart
    โ€”- But Iโ€™m glad at least that she called her. But if that wasnt brought up on WWH you KNOW this would be issue #45 of Treโ€™s master (memorized) hit list for Melissa at the reunion.

    โ€”-Does Teresa realize Andy was correcting/mocking her brown chicken brown chow? I donโ€™t feel like she got that he was mocking it.

    Canโ€™t wait to analyze if WWH is live tonight lol
    ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

    Have a great day everyone.

    Huskerโ€” if youโ€™re around โ€” Iโ€™m going to get my ear looked at again. I feel that after 3 full days of drops I should be much better and i donโ€™t feel that way.
    Hope you are well.
    Reply

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Chismosa-why are you under the impression that Heather is Teresa’s “handler”? She co-wrote her cookbook with her yes-but her “handler”? Where does that come from?
      Of course Teresa didn’t get Andy was making fun of her-she never gets the joke-no big news there-we all know she is not that bright.
      Melissa getting drunk is not a big whoop-Melissa thinking that she brought the fun back to NJ is laughable-she sucked the fun right out of this show and getting drunk and calling herself a whore hardly brought any fun back into it. While I don’t think she is the devil ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ๐Ÿ‘บ I do think she is a sneaky bit*h and her calling JoeGiu a p*ssy last night was exactly why I think that. Her writing blogs about the show and saying that’s how she felt at the time is another example of her sneakiness-if you are in a better place-act like but don’t say one thing and do another-shady shady shady!!!
      I don’t think JoeGiu is a king-however I do love his I don’t give a rats ass attitude about the whole dumb family-he’s over it-and so am I. I don’t find him moody-I find him not acting so if he comes off looking like a stupid ass he doesn’t care-he isn’t trying to be a HW like the other “men”!!!

      • lori says:

        JoeGiu is really growing on me. I found it really sweet that he brought the bottle of wine he and Chris had made to the retreat. He’s not perfect, none of us are, but it’s nice to see another side to him.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Lori-I agree about the wine-I thought that was a very nice gesture!!!

        • Kat From Ohio says:

          me too. i think he just doesn’t care about and doesn’t want the cameras on, but realizes the only way to pay back their debts/make back the fortune is to keep at it. plus, now teresa has to fight to un-muddy her name or whatever. but i find him more and more amusing and as andy suggested (in jest), “the voice of reason.”

        • missusmc says:

          I’ve always liked Joe Giudice. Not so much during that phone call at the winery last season, but otherwise, I think there is something endearing and a little bit charming about him. And I know Caroline has questionable ethics when it comes to liking men over women, but across the board, she, Al, and Chris Laurita have all maintained that JoeGiu is really a good guy at heart. They have consistently defended him even when they were angry with Teresa, which says a lot to me. I think even though he says and does stupid things he really is a good guy at heart.

          • VV says:

            Most of that phone call was doctored by Bravo. Even editing was crappy at some point we could hear Juicy say something but his mouth didn’t move.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              The phone call may have been edited but he did call his wife a c*nt on national TV and that was horrible. Can’t take it and make it better-it was gross and Teresa was made to look like a fool. I don’t believe he was talking to his worker “Albie” but that’s just me-I don’t think he is great guy but I think he loves his family and I think that’s enough for Teresa. Does he cheat? IDK-but I think we would have some solid proof by now if he did. Where are these mistresses? Do we believe that he treats them so well that they are not spilling to the tabloids? I don’t think so-do we believe he is smart enough to not get caught? I don’t think so. So when the proof comes out I will believe it-until then I will just keep saying that he shows that he loves his family-yes-despite calling his wife a c*nt -he tried to sit through the fake therapy session last night to make things right for his wife…that’s more than a lot of other husbands would have done….oh and he didn’t beat the living sh*t out of his cry baby BIL-for showing restraint in that area-I give him props!!!

              • VV says:

                I’m not excusing the C word. Was he really on the phone or did editing pulled a JZ calling Alex a name OFF CAMERA and edited to make it look like she said at a party to some friends. JoeGiu is unfiltered, uneducated and raw. He hated being on the show last year maybe due to stress at the time.
                I am not sure he called her the C word to his mistress like they made it out to be.

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  I’m not sure he did either-I didn’t mean that. The fact that he called her that word is troubling. I love that he is unfiltered but it does get him into hot water-the C word being one case.

            • rabblerouser2010R says:

              I still think he was probably talking to a woman, especially since the giggle he made when he asked whoever he was talking to was up to ..was the exact same as when Teresa told him they were going to get it on.

              • realhousewifeva says:

                Yah he was definitely talking to another woman. I will put money that Richie cheats or has cheated as well.

              • VV says:

                You never see him giggling on camera and the phone at the sane time. Bravo shot from a distance and added audio implying this was taking place. He could have been giggling with one of his kids for all that we know and Bravo added audio to the scene.

                • VV says:

                  I left out Teresa. He could have been talking to Teresa as well…

                • Cruickal says:

                  I’m with you VV!!!! I’ve stated it before but will again ๐Ÿ™‚ I 100% agree with everything you stated, bravo added in the audio to his phone call as well as had moments in that “conversation” where it was just audio and not him being filmed. I do NOT believe anything at all about that “conversation” I can’t trust even half of what bravo does show me with their editing (timeline manipulation, off camera conversations, or splicing). I know Kathy’s husband is a vile vile human being….. We’ve seen it on camera and also on twitter but even I don’t think he really said his wife smelled like tuna fish, that spliced convo was terrible.

                  On a side note:

                  Most if not all of us are from America, but the “c word” is used in a lot of British humor. The other night I was watching a standup routine from a very popular Australian comedian who was doing a show in the US. He told the audience I’m gonna talk about this now, and I know that many Americans find the word very offensive, but this is one of the oldest curse words ever, Shakespeare and Chaucer wrote great literary works and this is the word they used. He pointed out that a curse word A lot of Americans have no problem using is “mother ……..” I’m sure you can assume the ending. He pointed out breaking down what that means vs the c word the former is more highly offensive and looking at it that way I kinda see his point.

                  I don’t think it’s ok to call anybody either of those words but I just wanted to throw that perspective out there.

              • missusmc says:

                I think Teresa had more to gain if she actually had left Joe. Bravo (well, Andy at least) hates Joe. Fans hated Joe. Fans love Teresa. Fans love her kids. She could have written a best selling book about being an independent woman. By all means, if she ever leaves Joe for any reason, Teresa will wind up on top. So why hasn’t she done it? It makes no sense if Joe actually was cheating on Teresa, or if the conversation actually did go how viewers saw it. I tend to believe that conversation did not go as we saw it, and as of now, I still think we have seen no evidence of Joe cheating. Teresa may not be the brightest or quickest witted, but she’s not dumb. She knows she has everything to gain if Joe does cheat. And if she hasn’t left him, I’m inclined to think there was nothing to it.

        • I agree. It was great to see his big heart in the last few episodes.

        • plainviewsue says:

          I agree Lori. It was a very sweet gesture.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        I have always liked Juicy – a man of few words but they are usually the right words. We watched him go through the painful transformation from breadwinner to house husband. He supports his wife in what she does, he doesn’t hog the camera and he melts when his little girls are around.

    • Beckygrey says:

      Am I having a brain freeze, because I thought that I saw this post before.

      • Noelle says:

        Your brain is fine, thank goodness. Same post above, must have accidently posted twice.

      • chismosa says:

        My apologies —- I never meant to post twice —- SO sorry

        I know it’s not a popular thing— my responders get all the good replies. Lol

  9. L.A. Chica says:

    Great recap, MTH! And I so agree that it’s much better to read the thread here than to watch the show, and so I do not watch RHONJ. Thank you for sacrificing your time for us.

    I just read what Jacquiline posted on her blog. That’s a friendly joke? She is one twisted mofo.

    Happy birthday to RHVA!

    And many thanks for the warm welcome back expressed on the previous blog posting. It’s really good to be back. ๐Ÿ˜€

  10. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Good Morning everyone, Thanks for the blog Jeff.

    I thought it was really interested how Teresa always gets accused of not cooking by Joey and Melissa but yet we say Teresa and Kathy slaving away over a hot stove while Melissa was drinking Voli Light Vodka out of the bottle.

    It is no coincidence that this is the Vodka line that Melissa has a contract with. Some of you might not remember because you know, it’s ‘one of those strings of little deals’ people do because they can ‘never land a major endorsement’. I guess part of her agreement was that she had to somehow work it into the show, which is probably why over dinner we also heard a lot of chatter over what flavor cocktail everyone wanted.

    I really can’t think of a better ringing endorsement than a a sloppy drunk talking about her big ‘muskles’ (yes, muskles’) and screaming at the top of her lungs as she is being dragged away caveman style “I am a whore”.

    • L.A. Chica says:

      It’s an advertiser’s dream come true!

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        You just can’t buy PR like that, if they could only get Anthony Wiener an endorsement with AlshleyMadison.com , it could take it to the next level.

    • melthehound says:

      Is that what it was? I saw on FB yesterday that they’ve dropped her already (I think) and Bravo had the name on the bottle blurred out.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Something tells me she is no longer working for Voli…in her blog she mentions drinking vodka but not the brand-if she was still working for them the name “Voli” would have been mentioned countless times!!!!

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          Hi all, I just saw a blog about it on FameWhorga’s. They did drop her…but back in Jan when this was filmed…she still worked for them ๐Ÿ™‚

        • realhousewifeva says:

          She tweeted she was supposedly drinking Voli. But the peach and rasberry they were talking about were Teresa`s fabellini

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            Ah…I see. The voli also does come in a lot of flavors.
            I wonder if the “Red Velvet Cosmos” were also flowing.

  11. Kat From Ohio says:

    -i am a lady who has a sometimes raunchy sense of humor, and so i get that jacqueline was kidding but it was such an awful idea and came across as horrifying on tv. not funny at all (and i found the bleached a-hole comment amusing).

    -I also didn’t mind Melissa drinking. She was right–the kids weren’t there. I think it was the first time we’ve seen her drunk on camera… who cares? It was a little immature but inoffensive, IMO.

    -I seriously don’t mind Kathy. I’m glad she and Tre finally directly apologized to one another. Now hopefully they can shut up, move on, and get along again, as the issues aren’t as deep as they were with Melissa and Joe. And I’m back to liking Rosie, especially when she and Joe Giudice are hanging out. But like Jac in the comment above, Rich takes everything WAY too far and it is not coming across well at all. I liked him in his first season, but I think he’s just a creepy, lecherous old guy and it’s nasty.

    -no one is talking about NEXT WEEK where the manzo parents’ issues are finally coming to light, it seems.

    • melthehound says:

      She can drink all she wants. Personally I couldn’t care less and she can drink herself into oblivion. That was her schtick on the better part of the show though so, it’s going to get mentioned ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • missusmc says:

      I think Jac’s joke would be better received if she and Teresa were on speaking terms. THEN she can defend herself and say “it’s an inside joke. They think it’s funny.” But when you’re actively trashing the woman as often as possible and have made it clear you don’t like her? Inexcusable. It goes from a light-hearted, inside joke (really, really gross joke, but whatever. I’m not friends with them) to just cruel and distasteful.

      • Rebecca says:

        NO! Incest is never a “joke.” It’s just not. NO. Never. SMH.

        • missusmc says:

          Let me clarify: it’s not a joke I would ever make. But there are crude people that MIGHT make this kind of a joke. I can accept that. I don’t accept the inside joke excuse because Teresa is not on the inside anymore. She is out of Jacqueline’s circle. That’s the point I was trying to make. I agree that it’s not funny, and if anyone said that about me and my brothers, I would never be their friend. I was just trying to point out that in order to make an inside joke about someone, all parties of that joke need to be on the inside. Teresa was not at this time. That’s what makes it especially horrific, and what makes Jacqueline’s excuse even more cowardly.

        • L.A. Chica says:

          I agree, Rebecca. Jokes about rape or incest are not funny.

    • realhousewifeva says:

      Jac admits in her blog that this is something they joke about privately all the time, so it wasn`t really just said in the moment. To me it not funny to joke that a brother and sister lost their virginity to one another…I don`t know anyone that would think that was funny. I get raunchy humor, but even that has a line. IMO, of course

    • realhousewifeva says:

      They get just as drunk in front of the kids. Did everyone forget that party at their shore house when Antonia almost drowned because the drunken adult antics going on around her..

      • VV says:

        I had forgotten about that. Had that happened at the Giuduce’s home, we would see that clip play over and over and over again.

    • chismosa says:

      I’m witchoo Kat

      ๐Ÿ™‚

  12. L.A. Chica says:

    No, that’s been very frustrating. I think we’re in another RE bubble here, there are bidding wars again, so I’m backing off for now. In the meantime I’m enjoying this nice cool weather by the coast!

    Speaking of weather, we took a trip last month to the east coast and our timing was just right: the weather was PERFECT, though it was hot and muggy before and after we were there.

    Have you taken any summer vacation trips yet?

    • L.A. Chica says:

      Oh shoot, that was supposed to be a reply to Jill above! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I’m glad you had nice weather while visiting here!!!
        I had my family vacation in The Outer Banks a few weeks ago and on Sunday I leave for Cape Cod with Kevin’s family…packing packing packing!!!
        Sorry you didn’t find a house yet-good idea to back off until the time is right!!!

        • L.A. Chica says:

          Cape Cod! That sounds amazing. I hope you’ll have a fabulous time there. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • chismosa says:

          Jill my best friend’s husband’s name is Kevin and they just did 1 vacation with her family (Bermuda) and then with Kevin’s family (lake George)
          How funny you do the same thing ……

  13. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Happy Birthday RealHouswifeVA.
    Watched but could not chat due to Mr.AZGirl playing his computer game all night. Richie grabbing Rosie’s boobs is just disgusting. He is a grown man not a teenager. What is wrong with him? Jac is nuts and it is just sad. Chris does not give a rat’s ass about his wife. He doesn’t even want to be in the same room with her. She is just nasty.
    Juicy was right with the therapy. Just say your sorry and lets move on. You can tell he thought it was phony and stupid.
    Crazy thing about all this is Jac is the source of most of the problems.

    • melthehound says:

      I get the feeling he regrets the day he peeled her off of the pole and left whoever he was with at the time.

      • AZGirl says:

        Ha!!! thanks for the great recap. RealHousewifeVA posted below how different Joey is when it is just one on one with Teresa as opposed to when Mel is with him. Joey is another one that is going to regret the day he peeled Mel off the pole.

    • Realhousewifeva says:

      Thank you for the birthday wish!!

  14. HuskerHuny says:

    Having a nice light rain right now with temps in the 60s. Such a nice way to begin the week. Sorry to hear about the massive amounts of rain that is falling other places. What’s with this feast or famine stuff lately? We will say goodbye to July this week and welcome in August. Summer is going waaay too quickly.

  15. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Happy Birthday RealHousewifeVA ๐Ÿ™‚

  16. L.A. Chica says:

    In other reality news… When is RHONY coming back?

    Has anyone else been watching Interior Therapy with Jeff Lewis? I love that show and am so glad it’s back for another season.

    • JumpTheShark says:

      IT is my favorite Bravo show.

    • chismosa says:

      Hi- I prefer Flipping Out because I like to see Jeff’s life rather than his stupid clients but I watch for him. Live for Jeff!

      And he had the # of the last couple. They divorced. I’m surprised there was no blurb afterwards

      • JumpTheShark says:

        IMO, they divorced because she was so into herself, she hadn’t seen daylight for years. Jeff Lewis can be insightful, but also mean-spirited. Interesting how the decor can reflect a dysfunctional relationship. For most of these couples, the dominant personality has crap taste.

        • chismosa says:

          I don’t mind Moroccan or Spanish style AT All

          But she needed to tone down

          I knew Jeff is like Ramona or Nene or some others— either people LOVE or hate. Polarizing

          • chismosa says:

            I know …. Not knew

            and also, meant to say she really ran that guy. He is a marine sniper! She was kind of emasculating.
            Then again her career was taken away after 20 years so I feel for her for that

            • JumpTheShark says:

              Perhaps she should apply for a “Real Housewives” gig.

              • chismosa says:

                No joke she’d be good! She’s a little looney— Joel mchale loves to make fun of her. Could be great!
                Her eyes have a little odd thing where one seems to be looking in a different direction than the other. I think Penelope Cruz has the same thing.
                She looks great for her age I must say— Jillian.

              • L.A. Chica says:

                Brilliant idea! She would be interesting to watch.

                I’m sorry to hear about the divorce, hadn’t heard about it before. While its not shocking news I do feel badly for the child(ren).

                I’m blanking โ€” how many did they have? I think I’m getting the number confused with the previous couple. You know, the cat rescue lady who inexplicably put her cats ahead of her baby’s very life. I mean the kid needed a nebulizer to BREATHE because of the cats! I was waiting for someone (Jeff?) to slap her upside the head! Did you see the WTF looks on his and Jenny’s faces when they found out? He was surprisingly gentle with the cat lady, considering the circumstances.

                Or maybe it appears that way due to the editing. I don’t know if I could have been that nice. I get really stabby when people put their children’s life in danger.

  17. windycitywondering2 says:

    Jeff – another excellent recap.
    IMHO, Rosie and Teresa came to the retreat ready to heal – the others who thought they were so smart and smug in their continuing efforts to take down Teresa got the rude awakening they so richly deserved. The vile Wacky Jacky couldn’t parent a pet rock and Caroline should heal her own family first before demanding any interaction with Teresa. Richie is a pervert and Kathy enables his behavior…creepy, mouth breathing, shit stirring excuse for a man! It appears that lil bro Joey wants to stop embarrassing himself but his wife is determine to continue her victim game. At TSIL’s age, drinking and saying rude shit to people and using being drunk as an excuse for it should have ended in her early 20s. Juicy, again said what needed to be said.

    And for the record – mi closet, su closet – just one rule, stay away from my boot collection!

    • VV says:

      “The vile Wacky Jacky couldnโ€™t parent a pet rock”

      ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

    • melthehound says:

      Right on the money…

      I doubt there is anything in your closet that would fit me, especially your boots (13EEEE here) but I’ll send the others right over ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Noelle says:

      Hi BFF WCW,
      BOOTS….Did you say BOOTS!?! Boots are my weakness and one of my true loves, as they NEVER disappoint me and provide endless happiness!
      You know windy Love, Rules are made to be broken. What size would you wear….per se?…
      xo

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Boots are my downfall and true loves in size 9 (or 8.5 or 9.5 if I really have to have them). I just added an excellent pair of Cole Haan Ironstone Grays …. So the collection has shorts and talls and midcalf and knees, in blacks, browns, taupes and grays. And now I am eyeing some colors – dark purples, blues and greens. I’m in deep babe!

        • cusi77 says:

          WindyCityWondering I am a boot lover (You have seen me when we got together for breakfast last year in then beginning of April) I am size 5, 5.5… 6 IF I must to have them… I can’t share my boots with you… Snif!

  18. VV says:

    Jeff, enjoy your takes on both the Chat and the show. You got me laughing and that keeps me watching because it has become very hard to watch. Same crap over and over again.
    I’m sure somehow that’s Teresa’s fault too…..

  19. OMG! I cannot believe I got a “shout out” from MTH! OMG! I must run and bleach my a$$hole and talk about how men I know lost their virginity at 9 years old! SERIOUSLY! I also am shocked that Chismosa “egmitted” that she went to Olive Garden and outed herself as 1/16th Italian! My thoughts? I kinda liked Dr. V calling these people out. She spoke their “language” and gave them confronted them in an appropriate way. Do I believe these people set their issues aside for the greater good…GOD I HOPE NOT! This show would super suck and I would have to find Mad Men on Netflix again. I was proud of Juicy for coming in, owning his part (still don’t understand how these jack-wagons can still say Juicy charged Joe). Whatev. MeGo showed her true colors. She really doesn’t want this family to get back together. I did enjoy the kitchen scenes. I do believe that Tre and Kath do cook. I am sure these ladies learned everything in the kitchen at their mom’s sides. I am 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Polish and this was definitely part of my childhood (and I can fold a fitted sheet!) Obviously, MeGo was cut from a different cloth. I imagine her as the princess of the family with older sisters and she was prob too good to get her dainty hands dirty. Obviously she need heard the phrase “the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach.” MeGo still thinks Joey’s stomach is in his Penis…barf! Richis is a SUPER shit stirrer and definitely likes to egg these guys on. I am glad that Tre and Kath made nice…it was good for Kath to say that Tre doesn’t know what it is like to not have a father. Tre should not have said nasty things about Kath’s dead dad and Kath should never have said nasty things about Tre’s dad. They both apologized. Hopefully, they can move forward (but again, if they do, I will search my Netflix for something else).
    I still love love love the blouse that MeGo was wearing. Tre’s hair has been looking better this year without the crazy forehead issue. I want Kath to do my make-up…I so want to know who does these girl’s lashes!
    BTW, Jac was prob making Nicholas pancakes that were from the GCF (Gluten and Casein Free) diet. This diet is INCREDIBLY hard and takes a whole crapload of dedication to follow. You must avoid every bit of food that has gluten and casein and in it and if you check the ingredients on almost everything in your house you will find it. In addition to being incredibly hard to follow, it is also very expensive because everything must be bought at specialty stores. We tried this diet years ago with our daughter and saw no benefit, however, I know many other parents that swear by this. I admire her for trying all these therapies and hopefully looking at what works and what doesn’t. We weeded through holistic therapies, vitamin regimen’s, ABA, etc. for a long time before we found the appropriate fit for our daughter. While I am not a fan of Jac’s behavior, I will say I admire her for putting this out there for others to see (although I would probably admire her more if she took herself off the show and just concentrated on the kid). Our kids face challenges every day and these challenges have a ripple effect on our whole family. I am sure this is common or all families that have children with special needs.
    Just my two cents…stepping off my soapbox!

    • melthehound says:

      Stand on your soapbox all you want. I welcome the education here because we certainly don’t get it from the show. I have mentioned before that I have an internet friend with an autistic (nearly 21yo) son. I’m sure they too have tried everything under the moon and stars including different diets. Including gluten and casein free.. Her husband has some sort of condition that requires him to become gluten free. She buys most of her ingredients mail order from Amazon or some place like that. I don’t know if they are seeing any benefit for the son or not with it. His favorite food is burgers, fries, and pasta.

      It’s always fun to give the shoutouts especially when I can make a short story of it ๐Ÿ™‚

    • mrs peabody says:

      I really don’t think Tre was saying nasty things about Kathy’s dad. She may not have said it the right way but I thought she was trying to point out that he was there for them when their dad couldn’t be because he was sick. I didn’t think she was saying their dad was never there for them but he was sick and her dad stepped up. I thought she was pointing out to her that her dad was there for them too.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        ITA – Tre’s dad helped out his sis’s family with 5 kids when their father was sick and dying. Kathy was likely afraid that Tre was going to say that part (but Tre isn’t into putting family private stuff out there) so Kathy went def con 5 to prevent that.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      “MeGo still thinks Joeyโ€™s stomach is in his Penis” hahahhahaha. nice one.

  20. VV says:

    The Snake Crapofesto is Up!!! The Snake Crapofesto is Up!!!

    She’s trying to clean up her act because she’s got books to sell….

    Melissa is truly pathological (Thank you Nancy)

  21. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    You know I’ve been thinking-where the hell is Exit??? She has some good Jersey commentary and we are missing it!! Exit if you are lurking-come out and play-I miss you!!!!!

  22. realhousewifeva says:

    Thank you for all the birthday wishes!

    I was only half watching, but I thought Melissa was talking about Kathy when she made the whore comment…she said something like Kathy was that type of girl in high school who was so quiet but was really a whore..but I might have mis-heard. Kathy didn`t seem amused.

    I will never buy that there is 10 years of hatred between the Giudices and Gorgas. ONLY the Gorgas ever say that. Teresa and Joe say they were always on good terms until she got on the show, and even then they still saw eachother all the time until the Gorgas got on the show. That is where the drama started, and that is why Teresa keeps saying `WHAT DID I DO` and doesn`t get a real answer. Because all they can say is that she called Melissa a stripper and cheater, which all happened on the show and not even from Teresa. There is nothing else. They never tell us what supposedly happened 10 years ago. Melissa`s sister stayed with Teresa for a week at her shore house in the summer of `09. There was no feud and sorry but the people who are buying that B.S. are so gullible.

    I posted this on the FB page, but Joey Gorga is a TOTALLY different person when he is one on one with Teresa than when Melissa is in the room. His whole demeanor changed. Like Dr V said, Teresa and Joe were enjoying eachother, emotional and totally showing how much they care for one another. Then Melissa comes in and Joe stiffens up, gets that look on his face and hardens toward Teresa.

    Jac is SO disgusting. I don`t know why she gets away with so much when Teresa has never talked half as bad about ANY of them as they do about her. They are so trashy.

    Speaking of Trashy, Richie is a perv and it is not cute or endearing. If my husband talked like that about any person with boobs, he would no longer be my husband.

    • realhousewifeva says:

      Oh and Melissa acting like she never gets drunk…gimme a break. I see her pics on twitter and they are ALWAYS partying, she is always in something super skimpy dancing around like a hoochie. Even when they post pics from their shore house with their kids they have an abundance of alcohol and are acting a fool. They are party animals and THAT is a big part of why the Elder Gorgas do not like her, IMO, because she does not possess old school Italian ways that they probably hoped for their son. He clearly has insecurity issues with his height/hair/etc. and having a hot wife (which is subjective) and a little fame has gone to his head.

      • VV says:

        Very very true! She controls him. He’s been controlled by her for so long he doesn’t even know it.

      • Noelle says:

        Happy, Happy Birthday Realhousewifeva!
        Have a wonderful day!

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Happy Birthday!
        ITA – the Gorgas so want to still be “party animals” cause growing up and being a responsible adult and a parent is hard work, no fun and definitely not sexy. Lil Gorga’s deep anger/rage could likely stem from the fact that he knows that his father knows that he abandoned old school ways (and Juicy didn’t) because it is hard work, no fun and definitely not sexy!!

  23. Lulu says:

    Hello everyone!!! MTH another fabulous blog! Though have to admit I’ve only read the first paragraph so far. That was enough for me. ๐Ÿ™‚

    I’m dreading the next few hours. Today my little Aiden has a DR appointment for his shots ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I have the worse case of butterflies! I know it’s for the best but just makes me soo sad that he will be in a little of discomfort. Wish this nerve wrecked momma good luck!

    BB did you and your bubby do anything exciting for your 40th anniversary?? ๐Ÿ˜‰ BTW must give us newbies (only 6 years in) tips!

    • Lulu says:

      Oops!!! Hubby not ——-> Bubby!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • BB says:

      We went to breakfast at one of our fav restaurants at the beach. I know, not very exciting, but we lead a pretty quiet life. Lol. Oh, and he gave me a Nikon Coolpix digital camera (because I have an old fashioned cell phone that doesn’t take pics). Now I just have to learn how to use it. Ha!

      • Nancy says:

        ๐Ÿ™‚ Sounds like you had a great time.

      • lulu says:

        How romantic!!!!! I’m very jealous breakfast at the beach sigh :). Once you learn how to use your camera we will all need a dailydose of Jack ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      It helps to give a dose of tylonol an hour before shots. Hope all goes well.

  24. ItzAngieDuh says:

    Oh oh-I think WackyJaq istrying to worm her way back into Tre’s spotlight. In her Bravo manifesto-she keeps using phrases like ‘I didn’t trust Teresa at the time’. So this F-nut realizes she needs camera time & Tre is the only way to get it. Are we seriously supposed to believe that all these people who participated in the Tre bash that was S4 reunion are now seeing light & love? Andy can’t think we’re that dumb, can he? That comment (inside joke) Wacky said about Tre & Joey Marco was disgusting! She runs around saying Tre is disgusting & a pig-she must be seeing her reflection in the mirror. I say let Juicy & Lurkita be friends & Wacky can go scratch! I’m sorry, even after reconciliation, that inside joke is a DEAL BREAKER!! Can’t wait to see the Manzoids implode-sorry but I can’t!

    • realhousewifeva says:

      I think it is HILARIOUS that she has the nerve to say people say Teresa is obsessed with her when Jac has not been able to keep Teresa`s name out of her mouth in a single scene this season, not to mention how much she harrassed her on twitter.

      These people seriously live in an alternate universe!

    • VV says:

      JackieWalker Red is certifiable.

  25. lizzle says:

    NMD… did you get my comment from yesterday about your legal rights as a blog owner. I think it is important to know that you have rights and are protected by law.

    As for comments…. we all are responsible for what we say and can be sued… if they can find us. Lisa from Miami did not sue a blog… from what I gather, she sued someone who she knew, who was making slanderous comments on a blog. It really is best to use allegedly in a comment that contains libelous information. I have heard malicious gossip here from my first day all the way through today… so it isn’t something that has never gone on here. I just suggest using “allegedly”

    NMD talked about one type of rape yesterday, which was statutory rape. So, I want to bring up an aspect of rape that hasn’t been mentioned here. A man can be charged for rape for having sex with a woman who is too drunk to consent. It is happening more and more these days. So, if you are a teenager or in college or even beyond… and you have a woman who passes out…. even if you were making out with them or they were flirting with you… you cannot have sex with them. That is rape. It is the law. I am not bringing this up to accuse anyone of rape… but if you have teenagers or college age children.. I think it is important to make sure they know what is right and wrong. Because honestly, when alcohol is involved… lines become blurry.

    I mentioned this stuff yesterday… but knowing your legal rights and knowing what your rights are as a woman are very important to me.

  26. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Was I the only one who thought Richie’s comment about Rosie having ‘an afro down there as not only crude but questionably racist? Most of me thinks he didn’t probably mean it as such, but in a round about way, he equated AA hair with public hair.

    • VV says:

      It won’t matter RR. He’ll get a pass from Bravo. Had that been Juicy? We wouldn’t hear the end of it.

    • lizzle says:

      Ughhhhh… Richie is sick in the head! I seriously throw up in my mouth when I see him on the screen.

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      I thought the afro comment was questionable as well – And why has Richie seen Rosie in the shower??? What a lowlife mofo!

  27. KTinCT says:

    Happy Birthday, RealHousewifeVA ๐Ÿ™‚

  28. Nancy says:

    Happy Birthday Realhousewifeva!!! I hope it’s a great one. ๐Ÿ™‚

  29. Obsessed with RH says:

    It’s been a long time since I’ve posted but I came across this article a few minutes ago and knew that many of you would like to see that the Grifters, I mean the Giudices may FINALLY be held accountable for their fraud throughout the years.

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/real_housewives_stars_teresa_and_joe_giudice_charged_with_fraud_feds_say.html

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Thanks for the link. For some reason I thought when they withdrew the bankruptcy petition that a lot of the charges would not be pursued. It seems like at the rate that pretty much off of the families are going with thieving and scheming , they will all get cells next to each other.

      • Nancy says:

        Hi RR…where would the kids go? I feel so sorry for her parents. We have seen many articles like this one so hopefully it will not happen. Let Teresa work off these debt’s.

      • Obsessed with RH says:

        That was honestly my BIGGEST gripe with the Giudices. I really don’t care about their stupid family fights and who said what and who hates who because they’re all guilty of that nonsense. I happen to like Melissa more and don’t find her as egregious as Teresa in all of this mostly because this bankruptcy/fraud/scheming stuff was in the back of my mind as being part of WHO Teresa is and I just can’t see past that since my husband and I do EVERYTHING by the book and continue to scrimp and save and scratch for everything we have and ppl like Teresa and Joe get off scott free (I hope not). While my husband and I moved in with my parents to save money to MAYBE one day buy a house (we’re 4 years married now) these two get to spend money like it’s growing on a tree and get away with stiffing hardworking people. That was and is all I’ll need to make my decision on my opinion about Teresa and her husband. So hopefully with this indictment they will finally have to pay the piper….and they can have their bubble bath in a prison shower together….brown chick a brown cow Teresa..

        • lizzle says:

          They are all guilty of being thieves. One example is Melissa. She was an actual thief, who fled to NJ from FL to avoid being prosecuted.. the statute of limitations saves her from prosecution today. For me, the show is about the family drama… it’s kind of hard to ignore that aspect because it is all that I see. As far as ethics, they all are on the same playing field. Jaq owes taxes that she never paid as well. Joey Gorga was sued and with his problems… I am not sure if he has paid off the companies that have sued him. Wakile and Sons are involved in litigation with Exxon right now for writing bad check. Richie denies involvement, so I can’t talk about that as pure fact… but he was sued by his landscaper and was downright rude to him. Albert Manzo lied about where he lived and made money in a government position due to fraud. He was criticized by the governor of NJ. Chris Laurita claimed bankruptcy on his business but have allegedly used much of the business funds for personal use. He is being sued right now. He does owe Susan Komen money for use of their logo on shirts that has not been paid, but might be written off in bankruptcy.

          Maybe they all are ethical saints and Teresa is the fiscal devil… I just don’t see the proof. That is my biggest thing with RHONJ… I don’t want to read between lines… I want proof that the Guidices are the only unethical ones on the show.

          • Obsessed with RH says:

            I see your point…I just can’t get over $11 MILLION in scams….they are all not saints and by no means did I say that they were, I said Melissa doesn’t bother me as MUCH as Teresa. Doesn’t make it right I’m just explaining my POV. I will not however say that Teresa is less guilty or less at fault for what she’s done because the rest of them are a bunch of crooks. She continues to run around and spend and even defrauded her creditors while her bankruptcy petition was still filed (using book advance $$ to buy $60K in drapes or whatever the hell she used it on). That just infuriates me and for whatever reason it does so more than the rest of them…maybe because she comes across as not giving a sh*t for her behavior (they’re all guilty of this too I know). Either way I am pleased that she may finally be running out of scams and will hopefully have to pay for her lies. JUST like the rest of them should but she’s the OG so start with her.

            • lizzle says:

              Ok.. I get you… we have the same view… except I like Teresa better.

              I was going to talk about buying houses… but have to go. It might be worth it to see if you qualify now. Anyways… gotta run

            • Rebecca says:

              And he Laurita’s $54 million scams are ok? Their hands are dirtier than the Guidices.

            • chismosa says:

              I agree with you O W RH
              All good points

          • melthehound says:

            I just don’t see the need to count any of these people’s money, regardless of what their debt is, how much they have or don’t have. If they are in trouble with the law then I will let the law handle it, however that works out. These people haven’t raped or murdered anyone, they’ve balked at their debt. If people are going to nail them to a cross for it then I hope they have a lot of nails and wood to make more crosses. That goes for all of the HWs crew, not just the Giudices. I also hope for the people doing the complaining, that their own house is clean.

            • HuskerHuny says:

              MTH – my modest three bedroom/one bath house is ‘clean’ and almost paid for as well as my 1999 car with almost 150,000 miles on it. I just get a little heated when I see the millions of dollars of houses, cars, clothes, jewels, surgeries, trips etc. that these people flaunt knowing that they cheated to get them. From what I read, these charges are from before RHNJ even aired. Today the finger is pointed at the Guidices, but it can, and probably will, be pointed at the others in the near future. I can sleep at night with a clear conscience and I bet you can too!

              • melthehound says:

                My 3 bedroom will be paid off by the end of the summer and my 1996 car has been paid off for years. Believe me, I get what all of you are saying and can even agree with it. I paid my bills why shouldn’t they pay theirs? My point is, and I know I’m alone here, their money, any of them, or lack thereof, isn’t mine to count.

            • Obsessed w RH says:

              It’s not about counting their money it is about counting the money that they are STEALING from hard working people like my husband and myself. And for the record my hands are extremely clean. I moved into my parents home with my husband so we could save enough money to pay for our house in CASH. my student loans are paid off, my cars are paid off and I have a very healthy savings so I have no qualms nailing grifters to the cross. ALL OF THEM. Today just happens to be the Giudice’s turn.

              • melthehound says:

                I am both a building contractor and a landlord. I have spent more time in a courtroom trying to extract blood from a turnip than I care to measure. I make sure my properties are nice when people move into them. Most are good people who also pay their bills. Some however feel they are owed something from the guy who owns the house, stop paying the rent, and then it takes me 2-3 months to bounce them the phuck out of there, kids and all. What do they do on the way out? Trash my house. Trust me, I GET the frustration here. Do you want to know what pisses me off when I see it? Someone buying a couple hundred dollars worth of groceries on a bridge card (welfare) and loading them into an Escalade. I don’t take glee in anyone being taken down, especially the glee I see here. Teresa’s legal problems are hers, not mine. I thought it was disgusting when Lynn posted their financial stuff and pinned it to the banner of her blog. I find the joy around here about it equally disgusting now.

                • Obsessed w RH says:

                  God bless you because you are a better person than I because I take pleasure in her finally getting her due. I certainly don’t enjoy paying my taxes but I do. I suck it up and write a large check every year while my neighbor qualifies for section 8 and lives with her boyfriend who makes 200k a year but they don’t have to pay rent and get welfare and I’m busting my butt to pay all of my bills. And as far as broadcasting her finances I don’t feel any sympathy as she went on a reality show and proceeded to pay 120k in cash for furniture and spend exorbitant amounts of money shopping oh but she is supposed to have privacy?if she didn’t want her grifting exposed then stay off the tv.

                  • melthehound says:

                    OwRH, I am not trying to take any high roads here. Never claimed to be better than anyone here either,

                • lulu says:

                  MTH agreed and they are taking full responsibility.

                  When my dh was unemployed and we were on a strict budget. I can’t forget the one day at checkout. The women ahead of me wearing gucci shoes purse and a designer coat using a link card to pay for her groceries. She drove a lexus crossover that completly pissed me off. Really you can afford ALL that but can’t afford groceries!!?!?!?!?!??!?!

            • rabblerouser2010R says:

              I think as far as the government is concerned, it’s a lot more involved than just being upside down or in default of many mortgages and/or creditors. It’s the allegations of fraud not to mention Juicy failing to file taxes that will pinch them.

              Failing to file your taxes and not get an extension is BIG DEAL. As I mentioned, I am in the process of becoming a naturalized citizen so I am aware that failing to file can not only make someone ineligible to be naturalized, in some cases you can have your residency revoked.

          • kit9 says:

            You’re really going to compare a shoplifting charge when Melissa was eighteen to a 32 count indictment from a federal grand jury? And, these charges are in addition to the charges they’ve already faced in recent years, mind you. Sorry, not remotely comparable. And, the 15 yo shoplifting charges were dropped. She didn’t run out a statute of limitations, they were dropped.

            • chismosa says:

              Hee hee ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡

            • chismosa says:

              And hi Kit! ๐Ÿ™‹๐Ÿ™‹

            • lizzle says:

              I obviously did… and there is a statute of limitations which is why it was dismissed. see below:

              Melissa Gorga Shoplifting Case was dismissed BECAUSE of a 15th Circuit Judicial Circuit Administrative Order #4.605 and #4.6.25 = in 2008 a judicial order which basically states a misdemeanor case prior to 2008 with no activity on it for five years can be dismissed by a simple administrative order. A phone to the Palm Beach County Courthouse apprising them to activate this administrative order is all it would have taken to have Melissa Gorga case dismissed October 10, 2012.

              You have your opinion and I have mine. But a fact is a fact. People love to read between all sorts of lines… including legal ones.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Can we once and for all call these people (the Guidices) what they are and hold them accountable? I will NOT accept ignorance of the situation from Teresa. They are innocent until proven guilty, but c’mon – I’ve read the article and if it is true, BOTH of them are in for a world of hurt.

      As for Teresa working it off, hasn’t she been doing this all along? But isn’t she still living in a mansion (big house if you will), driving a rather nice vehicle(s), wearing designer clothing and jewelry, a beach house, etc.? How could they have all of that debt and still live the life they do? If I was one of their creditors, I would be yelling from the highest mountain for them to give me my money back. I would be going after anything of theirs I could get my hands on.

      This on top of Joe’s false driver’s license. Why doesn’t the law apply to them. I’m over them (have been for a long time) and if they come out of this one unscathed, I’m going to start breaking some tax laws of my own. But I guess I was raised differently than them – I couldn’t do it and be able to sleep at night.

      These people and others like them make me sick. And there are four innocent little girls in the middle of this mess – that’s where my compassion sits – with them.

      • chismosa says:

        ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
        Applause. Agreed. Blam. Bloop bloop !!

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      The state and the federal govts are very different animals and the legal system for both is slow at best – eventually all of these shady “genius” idiots will have their day in court. A good lawyer makes a huge difference too. As for the Guidice girls – her parents and her husband’s family will do what ever needs to be done.
      Sooner or later the Lauritas and the little Gorgas will be facing similar legal realities.

      • Noelle says:

        It is my hope that the Lauritas and the little Gorgas are not gloating and waxing poetic their sanctimonious BS our the Guidices financial troubles.
        No ones “Hands” are clean here.
        It’s only a matter of time before they’ll be passengers among that same train….they may want to keep that in mind.

        • HuskerHuny says:

          No one’s hands are clean here – no truer words have ever been spoken. I can only take one cheater at a time though and today that’s the Guidices. Tomorrow – who knows? Birds of a feather flock together. Please, someone out there, tell me that there are honest, hardworking people in New Jersey. This show is making the state look like a bunch of criminals. I know you’re out there – sound off!

        • missusmc says:

          I think this raises the ethical question of whether or not Bravo has the responsibility to pull the plug on all housewife shows that show criminals in action? (And I’m sorry; I like Teresa and adore Joe, but they are criminals, plain and simple). I mean, they’ve all exhibited questionable behavior, and we’ve all wondered whether or not these shows should be modified to protect the children, but this really does cross a line. They’re all breaking the law and not paying for what they have, while we all bust our butts every day (I assume) to pay for what we have. I don’t know… this just makes the show much grimier, and I’m leaning towards it’s not ethical to support such shady and criminal dealings.

  30. chismosa says:

    JILL- get back to you later/ I’m at a doctor’s office —

    I asked but I hope you had a BLAST at BON Jovi!!

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I hope you get good news! Let me know . . .

      • chismosa says:

        Husker – update: haha– no I didn’t go to the ear doctor because they were kind enough to call me today to get the full 411. (I was at the dermatologist)
        I’ve been on drops since Friday and I wanted to understand why I wasn’t SIGNIFICANTLY better and had to take ibuprofen also ….

        So they told me to hold on till later in the week. We went over my situation. ( I’m going to a neurologist next month for what I think is tmj according to an ENT)- so it may be all connected.

        But I’m feeling ok. Ok sorry for the health stuff on here everyone —-
        Husker hope you are holding up !

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Chismosa-BON JOVI was beyond fab!! Me and my BFF had the best time (as we always do when we go anywhere together)!!!!

  31. chismosa says:

    God I can’t STAND gummy Katie Couric! Wish I could lower volumes ….. Ughhhhhhh
    ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ‘ฝ

  32. ladebra says:

    Wow, if convicted they both face more than 50 years in prison. Wow

    • djprincessc says:

      Its crazy to me that some murderers don’t even face this kind of jail time. I’ve seen sooooo many programs on ID where someone has been left for dead and the guy gets like 6 years for attempted murder. I also think its funny (not really at all) that politicians steal from the public every single damn day to fund their lavish lifestyles and it doesn’t even get reported about and it never will. Things are so backwards. If this is true, they have to be punished of course but 50+ years is ridiculous.

      • Obsessed with RH says:

        They will make a deal and probably just have to pay a hefty fine (which they will claim poverty for and won’t pay) OR will reduce it down so much they’ll probably get community service…..because that is how this whole country works…the hardworking honest people get screwed and the theives get off with no punishment. SMH

    • kit9 says:

      Just made my day. Finally, the lying POS Teresa will be held accountable. And, I didn’t read about it from some reality show/gossip site but at Mediaite with a direct link to the Justice Department. I loved when she was actually called evil on a recent epi. The woman truly is a soulless pig. I nearly choked with her ‘What have I done?’ screech. How much time you got, T? How much time? There is nobody more richly deserving of having the full force of the J.D. fraud department come down on their pointy heads. No other pathological liar more deserving. And, I relish that it will most likely hurt her most in her so so precious pocket book-the only thing she seems to truly love. Too bad it won’t be televised cause I’d be sitting with my popcorn ready. And, folks, it’s already been to a federal grand jury and indictments issued so it’s FOR REAL. But, remember, it’s ALL JACQUILINE’S FAULT!!!

      • Noelle says:

        Cause she’s the ONLY one…ever accused of this crime. Gotcha! hmm..,
        I agree, she should be held accountable and will be in due time.
        However, me, myself doesn’t dance in delight in hearing her be called “evil, “a souless pig,(Really?! wow)” I could go on but why bother.
        But that’s just me.

        • djprincessc says:

          Weren’t posters complaining not even 2 days ago about the blog being “MEAN” and yada yada? I don’t see them saying this is mean. What am I thinking though? This is about Teresa so its OK.

        • kit9 says:

          I’m sorry, when did I say she’s the only one accused of his crime? Never. And, good for you, but I personally love seeing a despicable pathological liar who had repeatedly done things for the sole purpose of hurting people called what she is. And, maybe you have a softer word to describe a woman who has repeatedly used her own children as pawns in her ongoing war with her brother but I don’t. That’s not my theory, we’ve seen her do it on camera over and over. Even as her kids have expressed that it hurts them. Just this season, Teresa is seen asking Gia if she’s upset that her uncle isn’t coming to her party and Gia said, no. Teresa wasn’t happy at all with that answer, oh no! So she proceeded to try and convince Gia how angry and hurt she should be. That’s right, Teresa was PURPOSELY trying to make her daughter feel like sh*t. On her birthday, no less. Why? So, Teresa could use Gia’s pain as a tool to hammer her brother with. If that ain’t freaking soulless I don’t know what is.

      • Rebecca says:

        Wow – you have issues. The rest of us are asking for these people to removed from the show and you are going all out on them. I feel sorry for all your pent-up anger. You seem a little too worked up and attached for your own good.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I don’t think kit has issues-I think she just knew that this day would come and we would all still be liking Teresa-it’s hard to understand why people support someone you think is getting what they so deserve….I get it. I also don’t think this is kit “worked up” I think she is saving that for when Brandi “gets hers”!!! (That part was a joke…maybe…)

          • ladebra says:

            I get the Brandi joke !

          • kit9 says:

            Rofl! But, sorry, I have to say that Brandi is a freaking saint compared to Teresa. Brandi can only aspire to the heights of lying and awfulness that Teresa has mastered.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Kit-I knew the comparison was weak but I thought you would appreciate the sentiment!!!!

        • Noelle says:

          Hey Rebs,
          I see exactly where your coming from.
          Great comment.

        • djprincessc says:

          I agree with you too Rebecca. WOW! LOL.

        • Rebecca, we don’t attack other posters here. Kit has the right to express her opinion.

        • kit9 says:

          Oh, you’ve got to be kidding. This board is literally filled with Jac haters who literally, practically DAILY obsess over her every tweet and defend and ignore Teresa’s every truly horrible act and I have problems? I don’t incessantly post on Teresa’s every awful move. I’d have to stop working and make it a full time job, given how prolifically despicable Teresa is. But, I have pent up anger? And, the same goes for the Melissa haters. Barely a day(literally) goes by with out posts obsessing on her every evil move. Aren’t you always posting things from the Fame Whorgas site? You want to see someone with problems, look in a mirror.

      • chismosa says:

        No KIT it’s Melissa’s fault! Devil/ poison!
        Pay attention PUH—leaze!

        • Orson says:

          Maybe Melissa and Jackie are in cahoots with each other to set up Teresa.

          • kit9 says:

            I have no doubt that the combined Devil Jacqulissa and the lesser demon Kathy shoved a pen in poor Teresa’s hand and made her sign those fraudulent documents. You know that’s how it really happened! Those two are always producing fake documents to frame poor Tre. Wow, this place can be such an echo chamber that people just can’t take an opposing view.

        • kit9 says:

          lol!

  33. chismosa says:

    Jill I just met Erica’s mother from Princesses!!!! So sweet……
    I saw this woman get out of her car at a Dunkin donuts near me so I RAN!

    She was incredibly sweet. I told her her daughter was so sweet and GORGEOUS.
    I love it!!! Hahahaa

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      You did not tell her mother that!!! Did she know you we’re putting her on??? HAHAHAHA how the hell did you keep a straight face??? This is just too funny!!!! I love that your “stalking” finally paid off!!!!

      • chismosa says:

        I was going to that place anyway she just happened to get off in front of me. I was like I KNOW HER!!!

        I mean I’m not going to say her your daughter is a looney cheating shaking frazzled druggie mess —– hahaa!
        I think deep down she is a good person. I don’t know…..

        She was very nice I told her our friend lives on a street and if that was near where she was since it looked similar (I know they are near eachother)– she was very open

        She said that there’s been bad publicity but they’re keeping their fingers crossed for another season. Hahahaaaa! Yeah ok

  34. windycitywondering2 says:

    I can only take about 5 minutes of the OMGing and the mazeling a week – is it Erica or Joey who is in the battle royale with the one who doesn’t wear flats?

    • chismosa says:

      Is this for me? Joey. Looks like Bethenny.
      After the munchkin STARTED it. I know Joey/Bethenny made a joke at her expense but this was after munchkin did stuff towards Joey.

      Munch looks down on Joey.

      It’s VERY hard to take. The woman at my salon can’t watch it she said because she deals with that every day— I.e. all her clients. Lol!
      It’s tough

      • lizzle says:

        I don’t think we agree on one thing… LOL… I might need a list of everybody you like so I can make sure to be here when we like the same person. Love ya anyways, Mo

        • lizzle says:

          actually, it might be more fun if we hate the same person.. lol (insert devil emoticon here)

        • chismosa says:

          Wait you like the munchkin? Who exactly do you disagree with me on Princessess? Joey?

          I don’t get it —– ??

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            I asked the original question!
            Does the Munchkin have a real name?
            So Joey/Bethenny said something the Munch took offense at?
            And now the Munch has caused a casino because of it?
            And now teams are forming?
            But will there be blood……….
            I KNOW MY BRAVO MATH FORMULA!!!!

          • lizzle says:

            It was a joke about me wanting to snark with you… GEEZ! Per conversation yesterday where I pointed out that I have watched the show ONCE and could care less about them. Thanks for the trip to Mars, Mo! I have officially jumped the shark…

  35. VV says:

    Teresa’s Blog is up!!! Teresa’s Blog is up!!!

    • kit9 says:

      I hope the writer T hired to write her phony ‘blog’ got paid in cash. I’m reading the full JD press release and wow. They actually invented phony jobs they never had. From the JD’s press release…’Teresa Giudice applied for a mortgage loan of $121,500 for which she submitted a loan application that falsely claimed that she was employed as an executive assistant. She also submitted fake W-2 Forms and fake pay stubs purportedly issued by her employer’. Produced faked pay stubs?Holy sh*t.

      • chismosa says:

        It’s heather. Her handler. Yes she has someone write them and she owns up to it mostly bless her sweet law-breaking little heart.
        Makes her endearing!

        ๐Ÿ’ฉ๐Ÿ’ฉ

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Again with the “handler”?…I don’t get it girl!!! What handling? What is she doing differently now that makes you think she is being handled? I think her blogs last year were totally not written by her but I’m so confused about the handling stuff-you gotta enlighten me!!!

      • VV says:

        My job (assigned by me) is to announce when the blog is posted.
        I don’t care who wrote. I just announce it ๐Ÿ˜€

  36. lizzle says:

    I am about to go to church with my parents. I am not religious, so church is rough for me. Synagogue is better, because I don’t understand what is being said and I get to eat afterwards. Anyways… have a good night everyone… maybe I will come back tomorrow a changed woman.

  37. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I’m not going to pretent that Teresa and Joe are innocent or that these charges or that im surprised by the charged-but I’m going to go ahead and be stupid enough to say that I feel sorry for them in some small way. I don’t think people should get away with breaking the law and I hate that there are so many of us who follow the rules and do the right thing all the time and never seem to keep our heads above water while others take short cuts and do illegal crap and go through life nice and easy. This is not going to be nice or easy for them now-this is serious shit that they are being indicted for-SERIOUS SHIT!!! Like real jail time-they have 4 kids and some old parents-so yes I feel kind of sorry for their situation-b/c of that fact. I would feel sorry if it happened to Melissa and Joey or Jac and Chris. If that makes me stupid-whatever! I don’t care-I would be scared shitless if I were in their shoes!!!!! Orange may be the new black but I ain’t tryin’ to find out if its true!!!

    • melthehound says:

      +10

    • Nancy says:

      I don’t know what to think anymore. I feel sorry for their 4 girls and their parents. I have to wonder how much Teresa actually knew. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

      • AZGirl says:

        Personally I know many women who sign off on commercial, residential and business loans and don’t even ask their husbands what the paperwork is for. Hundreds have been in our office when the husband either divorces them or goes underwater and they are CLUELESS!

        • Nancy says:

          Exactly.

          • AZGirl says:

            Mr. AZGirl used to work with a woman who was retired attorney from NY. Very respected. She was in her 80’s at the time and just wanted to keep busy. She did paralegal work for Mr. AZGirl. Stupid women made her crazy. These women would come in and they would not even know what or where their personal bank accounts were. Too funny. As far as she was concerned they deserved whatever trouble their husbands got them into because they were too lazy and spoiled to read the loan documents.

    • AZGirl says:

      Crazy thing is if the IRS and the Feds work a deal they will be able to get some monies paid through a settlement deal. Teresa is a gold mine.

      Teresa and Joe can continue to work and payoff what they owe to the IRS. Do community service for the fraudulent loan applications and still take care of their kids and her parents. Throwing them is jail does nothing but cause harm to all involved. Parents and their kids especially.
      People do stuff like this all the time. Yes it is wrong and I would never even think of doing stuff they did but really if the money can be paid over time just fine with me.

      • Nancy says:

        What about the DMV charges? Do you think he’ll get jail time? He turned down 5 yrs
        I believe.

        • AZGirl says:

          I can’t believe this has gone as far as it has. Really stupid. Fine Juicy and give him probation and stop crowding the municipal courts. DUI is another thing. He need to be assigned to a therapist or AA. Suspend the license again and be done with it.

      • Rebecca says:

        I work in the mortgage industry. If they were applying for multiple mortgages using all kinds of information that wasn’t vetted out – then it is the underwriters fault for letting them go through. They couldn’t get away with this at one of our banks.

        I wish I could underline that because I mean its the underwriters fault that it was granted, not that it was their fault the Guidice’s (allegedly) submitted false information.

        • ladebra says:

          You mean the fraud committed by Joe, allegedly, was ok? But if the mortgage company didnt catch the FRAUD, it wasn’t breaking the law?

          • Rebecca says:

            How did that all get through underwriting? Those loans never should have funded. I see our underwriters in action. No tax returns means no approvals.

        • kit9 says:

          They apparently went to great lengths in their fraud, both not only inventing non existent jobs but Teresa provided phony pay stubs for said non existent job.

        • AZGirl says:

          Rebecca I have a feeling the mortgage company’s they used were not your standard lenders. Nothing surprises me with NJ.

      • Orson says:

        They might have to live a less flamboyant life style in a smaller home. And give up the house at the shore. And on their lawyers’ advice, they’re not going to answer ANY questions about this unless they’re at a deposition or in court.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        It kind of makes me wonder why Wacky Jacky was so concerned about Teresa and Joe going to jail back during the patiopalooza…….because Chris and her situation is similar with her being named on some of the charges against their very different but not really business fraud and her non payment of state taxes…..are the feds far behind???

    • Putchka says:

      JNTJ. No, you are far from stupid, you have empathy. Felonies and federal prison time ruins your life (in most cases). This is not county or state charges where probation and community service will suffice. RICO, IRS, etc. will take you down. Remember Leona Helmsy, Delorean, countless others taken down by the new RICO fed laws. They were far smarter and talented than the Guidicies. I’m not happy about the kids. I love Gia and think she’s the brains in that group.

      • Putchka says:

        I can’t believe they are so stupid. Who would ever believe Theresa was an “executive assistant”? She can barely pronounce her last name for God’s sake.

        • melthehound says:

          She has had jobs, with legit companies, before RHONJ and Bravo. She can be an exec assistant in a fambly business, as far as I know, there is nothing illegal about that.

          • Putchka says:

            Hey Jeff, glad you replied. You crack me up. I laugh at your reviews cause I know you can’t stand these people. Would you hire Theresa as an assistant? Not that you need one… I’d spend more time educating her (if possible) than on my business.

            • melthehound says:

              I wouldn’t pay any of them a nickel to get a gallon of milk… You’re right, I can’t stand any of them. ON THE SHOW however, at the moment and for a long time, Teresa is the one who smells the least foul to me. Kind of the same test I use to elect smelly politicians, Which one stinks the least.

            • Putchka says:

              You and Julie Klausner should get together. Like Stiller and Meara except have a nice son.

          • kit9 says:

            Yes, but were her claims of having legit jobs before the show true? Because the indictment claims Teresa lied about being an executive assistant for an investment company earning $45 thousand a year all the way back in 2001.

    • missusmc says:

      I have empathy for their situation, but I do think that they should pay the penalty of their crimes, whatever that may be. I am in no way gloating, and I feel so badly for their children, but if these charges are correct, then I do feel that prison time is appropriate. I would feel the same way about anyone in their situation.

    • kit9 says:

      I can’t feel remotely sorry for people who knowingly committed fraud–lied and stole in massive amounts, repeatedly. And, the fact they did this with kids only makes them more despicable. Not a shred of concern for those kids if they were to get caught, possibly have to do time(or ‘go away’, eh Tre?), and publicly humiliating them. And, for what? So T could live in a house that had never been used before? So Teresa could sneer and ridicule her cousin Kathy for not owning a designer bag and living in a dumpy house? With priorities so insanely out of whack, they deserve everything coming to them in spades.

  38. BB says:

    Don’t know if this has been posted and don’t feel like reading through all the NJ stuff and I don’t know if anyone cares anyway, but since Big Brother is blogged here now:
    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=820350

  39. boston02127 says:

    Happy Birthday realhousewifeva! ๐Ÿ™‚

  40. AZGirl says:

    I just was thinking about when was it that Jac’s switch flipped. She went from a sweet mother/wife to a bat shit crazy woman. I think I first noticed the crazy when she was at a restaurant having lunch with the make up people. She was totally hammered. Curious of other’s take on this.

    • Rebecca says:

      I first noticed the crazy when she was obsessing over Danielle and crying that her daughter wouldn’t help her out. She was a teenager. That was pretty damn normal. I was a nanny for teenagers and I had a chart on the fridge. Every time they said no, we would add a check mark after their name. After I (or their parents) said no, we got to erase one checkmark. They learned pretty quick to balance chores and their personal activities.

    • kit9 says:

      It’s 33 pages long. At least 8 different banks and mortgages companies were involved. Well, at least they spread their grifts around. That was thoughtful of them. They lied about jobs they never had, manufactured phony supporting docs including false W2’s and false income tax statements to prove their incomes and to secure the loans. Then they apparently ran this same scheme, over and over to different banks and lending institutions. So far, Teresa has claimed two different jobs she never actually held. And, I’m only on Page 5.

  41. boston02127 says:

    Thankfully, Dr Heather is building a new and much larger home. We no longer have to worry about little Colette sleeping in the yard next to the shanty they’re living in now.

  42. Mene Seela says:

    Geeezz, Tre & Joe must be sh1tting bricks. I feel badly for them too. Strange that I feel bad I do not feel the same about the Lauritas. Basically Chris & Jac have done the same thing as the Juicys except to their creditors and business partners.I have to believe they have cheated on their taxes too.

    Maybe there can be an Andy Cohen wing on the Federal Prison facility?

    • Laineylainey says:

      Shitting bricks…haven’t heard that one in awhile, either!! Sometimes nothing else fits. LOL

  43. Rebecca says:

    Ah the trolls are out to gloat. Every time someone posts that a Teresa statement is not stupid enough to be written by her, prepare for a likewise reply. That got old really fast.

  44. TexasTart says:

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