Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E11 – Children of the Scorned

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-cast-and-info-rev_1Welcome back fans… Yeah, I know there are no ‘fans’ here but you know what I mean. SOMETHING keeps us coming back and I doubt it’s the Manzo pearls of wisdom. As usual, here is ClosetFreaks recap of last weeks show.

Last week, I made good on my promise to fast forward past she who does not matter to me. I felt I had cheated you ladies a bit but hey, I was having a bad weekend too with some crap in my own life and really didn’t care about hers. I still am and still don’t but that’s no reason to completely punish my friends here. So… I rewatched last week’s as well as the first look and the entire episode this week. I still don’t have my answer from this summit between Teresa and the F Nut. What is it, that Teresa did that was such a bad thing to Jac? Maybe I’m just some phucking thick headed ape who just doesn’t get it but, I still don’t get it. All I can gather from watching this show is the F Nut told Teresa she wanted distance for her sanity. Am I remembering that right or did I make it up in my head? Because from what I can see, that’s exactly what Teresa gave her… Distance. I also remember the F Nut telling Joey that his sister had set his wife up to look like an ass as a stripper. Outing her past. Did I remember that right or did I make that up in my head? Because reading some of the comments around here sometimes, I’m convinced we are watching different shows. I don’t believe for one second that this will ever really be resolved but, I’m a man. We just beat the shit out of each other and get the phuck over it. One way or another. Put whatever label you like on that but it works. Intellectuals and advanced thinkers have summits and meetings to hash out their differences and from what I’ve seen on this show, it’s all horse shit. They keep going around in the same circle of I know I did this but you did that. At the end of this ‘summit’ they had agreed to disagree and that is all I got from that entire waste of a scene. I guess Joe can resume his play dates with Chris now though so it’s all good.

Last week also we had this dinner at Teresa’s where baby Joey saw his niece/goddaughter for the first time in over a year. My my… How she has grown. This is a theme throughout this show and it’s disgusting. What the hell did these morons expect to happen? Today, Joey is coming to pick up Gia for a play date and she and her friends areΒ  in the powder room applying their make up and gossiping. Meanwhile, Teresa and the other girls are out in the rest of the mausoleum playing commando raider ninja turtles. Gia is telling her friends of the impending date with her uncle and she laments that the last time they had one on one time together was when she was something like 5. Bravo shows us a series of photos that might confirm this timeline. Teresa is on the outside listening in and decides that the future cover girls are the next target for her and the rest of her commando squad. Gia thinks her mom acts like she’s 5 sometimes and wishes she would stop. Time is going to come, Gia, when you’ll miss that playful part of your mom (I’m not talking about the legal stuff either). I know though you have to go through those cranky teen years where everything around you is embarrassing. Everything that goes on around you with everyone around you will have the sole purpose of embarrassing you so, get use to it princess. There isn’t a person here who hasn’t gone though it and you won’t be the last.

Joey arrives to pick up Gia and we begin the scene I have been waiting a week to see. Gia is happy to see her uncle but she’s being a bit fresh about this whole date thing. They are going to the go-cart track slash arcade. They get there and he’s the man, an idea he repeats several times, so he wants the fastest cart and wants her to have the slowest one. I know about being an uncle and teasing the little ones but somehow, I think he’s serious. Out on the track, Gia is doing a good job of handling herself as steroid boy is circling the track proclaiming his manhood. Yeah, I’m being rough on him but he deserves it. She’s about to pass him when she spins out and he wins the race… Bragging about how he, the man, beat the 12 year old girl. Nice job there, Joey. Now they get something to eat and sit down. He’s (in TH) talking about how pre-teen fresh she’s being with the eye roll and all that. Asshole, be glad this girl will speak to you at all. They begin a discussion of the feuding between the adults and the way it has affected the kids. Well, Joey says, there are two sides to every story. In other words, Teresa has poisoned her daughters against the angel from God. Gia, brings up the christening.. Yeah, Joey, in spite of what you think you know, She was there and saw and heard everything. To prove that point, Bravo edit gives us a taste of that scene with Gia trying to separate her mother from the Joey table tirade. Gia tells him what a raging dick her classmates think her uncle is. I’ll say that again in a different way… Gia’s classmates have been giving her shit about her uncle. In THs, Joey says he knows he’s supposed to let the girls win the games but, not when it comes to the carts. Yes, Joey, the carts too. At least try not to be such a dick about it. He also says that regardless of what’s going on with his sister, they are always going to argue, he needs to keep things right with the girls. No shit Sherlock. You just now figured that out? Were you born a dumbass piece of shit or did you have to work at it? He’s had multiple chances to see these girls and has pissed on every one of them because he didn’t want to see his sister.

Next scene, St. Chris is sitting in the official BLK office. I guess they aren’t using Granny’s house anymore as the HQ. In walk the male manzoids and they begin to teast St Chris about patching things up with his little buddy, the midget mason, Joe Guidice. Chris goes into how things are good now and it’s a good thing he wasn’t at the retreat when things got out of control. He might have had to jump in. Chris, Cut the phucking shit. You wouldn’t have done a damn thing and you know it. He of course has to run his mouth and be the big man for his nephews. His concern now though is, BLK and the level of participation of the Manzoids. He tells them that even with this restaurant, that they are spending all their time with, their first priority is BLK. BLK is the wife, and the restaurant is the mistress. He doesn’t want to walk into the restaurant that is in the same building they live in, and see them sitting there at 2am. I refuse to count Guidice money and I’m not going to count Lurkita or Manzoid money either. However, One of the Manzoids stated last week that BLK isn’t making enough money for them to draw income from it so that’s why they have to get the restaurant up and running. So they can eat and pay their rent. Whatever… we’ll get back to this in a minute.

Somewhere in all this, we are tortured with another Jac and Kathy shopping scene. Hmmm… Jac is going out to Beverly Hills to get a tummy tuck. Double Hmmmm… I said I wasn’t going to count money but, I do wonder. If BLK isn’t making any money for it’s officers to get paid, his other business is in bankruptcy, and from what I understand, Richie is under fire for not paying his supplier, Exxon, where does all this shopping and surgery money come from? I will assume they have found a pot of gold at the end of some rainbow or have pooled their bravo checks for these necessary ‘expenses’.

What brings up this tummy tuck is Teresa is having a charity event for her pet charity, Nephcare. I forget what it’s all about but it is the same charity she was pushing when she was on Celebrity Apprentice. I’ve heard about Dina’s Ladybugs charity a few times but this, I think, is the only other one I’ve heard of consistently from Any Housewife. The event is a Zuhmba class and all are expected to attend, including Jac. Those who don’t know, it’s basically an aerobics dance class. This Tummy Tuck, bothers me. Not because of the money but, Jac is not an old woman. She has 3 kids with something like a 10 year break between the first two, and 4 or 5 years between the second two. I know there were failed attempts before Nicolas but still, we aren’t talking about 3 kids right in a row. Teresa had her 4 almost one right after the other, 4 in something like 6 years (?) and MeGo had her 3 about the same way. Both of them are in great shape even for women who haven’t had Any kids. There is no denying that. How did they do it? Exercise. Yet, somehow Jac needs to get away from it all and take shortcuts, expensive ones, to cure her body image problems. Put down the fork, leash up that dog, and go out for a walk while the kids are at school, Jac.

Anyway, just like there are no shrinks in NJ or NY, there are no plastic surgeons either so she has to jump on her broom and fly to California for this transformation. Oh, she’s getting that michelin man neck taken care of too. Before she goes though, we get to see the Manzoids, with their mum, and Momz’s real daughter, Greggy. Seems he hasn’t actually left yet but is about to and this is his sendoff. Everyone is there except the Guidices. Let me stab an ice pic into my ear as Momz laugh dry cries about her baby going off to San Francisco to pursue his passion, whatever that is. I can guess but I’ll leave it alone as this is hopefully the last we’ll ever see of him. Maybe not, the Manzoids are getting their own show. Bravo, PuhLeeez. Stop with the phucking spinoffs and especially, with these people. They aren’t star material. We did get a shot of the female Manzoid looking as disgusted as ever with her mother crying over what she really wanted in a daughter.

The Lurkitas are the last to walk into this sendoff dinner that Greggy is throwing for himself. The announcement is made that Jac is going to Cali also to get her tummy worked on so she can compete in a bathing suit with Teresa and MeGo. She doesn’t say that but, come on… Every time the two of them flash their goods, she runs for the hills. The entire room, in the edit, looks at her like most of you probably did. We’ll leave that there for now…

It’s the day of the charity event and everyone is meeting up at Teresa’s house. Milania doesn’t remember cousin Kathy whose swimming pool she’s been in once. Gia remembers the last time she saw Jac – IT WAS TORTURE!!! They all arrive, first time in a long time they’ve been together in Teresa’s house. The two most excited to see each other are Milania and Antonia. Sorry but I think keeping these two apart over any feud has been the most disgusting part of all of it. I think both have been using the kids against each other and I think it speaks pretty low of all involved. Even Teresa and Kathy note that this same kind of shit, fight between the parents, is what separated Them as teens. I don’t think they’ve ever gotten over it either.

The Party bus arrives to take the gang to the Zumba charity event. We finally get to see this much teased Milania imitating MeGo on the pole bit. In the previews, MeGo has the hurt martyr look on her face but in the scene, she says, she misses the pole (joking about it). Maybe she was hurt, maybe not. I don’t know. The names they have all called each other are laughed about. Teresa asks Jac what a Sociopath is, since that’s what she called her sometime earlier (probably in a tweet). Jac tells her to google it, she does, she doesn’t look happy as she reads the description out loud. I forget all of them, Joe Guidice raises the wine glass to all of the freaks and calls them out by name. Overall, it was a scene of people busting each other’s chops and nothing that we were led to believe it was in the Bravo preview edits. OR, maybe the re-edited it. Who knows?

At the event, the wine is flowing. I know the last time I went to the gym for any kind of aerobic exercise (Treadmill on a steep incline and recline bike), I wanted a few glasses of wine to thin my blood and make me sweat more. However, even Kathy took part with her two left feet. The only one I didn’t see taking part in the exercise was Jac. Maybe I missed it. Honest, I didn’t use the fast forward at all tonight. At the end of the class, Teresa and her are talking, I forget about what, maybe this tummy tuck.. I don’t know, it really isn’t that important to me.

Jac is on her way to California because there are no plastic surgeons in the local. area. Her friend has suggested somebody and besides, Ashley is in California. The last time we saw Ashley on the show, she was being shoved on to a plane to California or Texas to go stay with her dad. I don’t remember which but it was a very unceremonious exit for her from the show. The Lurkitas treated Ashley like shit on this show and I have to say that most of the others did as well. I have to say that Ashley looks pretty damn good and put together. Getting away from her mother has been good to her. Hey, I’ll give the credit when it’s due. I guess she’s writing a blog for some outfit out there. Didn’t catch who, don’t care. She’s 22 now and I guess as such, doesn’t feel the need to party so much. They are at the docs office for the consultation and we see it… Jac’s stomach. Ummmm, okay, needs some help but I’m not convinced the knife is the only way to go for her. Doesn’t matter what I think though, does it? She’s given instruction for the night before (I think) and the next thing we see is Jac and Ashley at the restaurant with Jac’s parents the night before the surgery. I’ve had surgery once and I was told that food and such 12 or less hours before the time, was a huge no no when anesthetic was involved. I know it can kill people and still remember the first time I heard of it happening. Our medical experts can fill us in on what happens in that situation if they would be so kind. There are calls back and fourth to NJ and the attempted drama of will she or won’t she wake up is played out. I hoped not (not really, I don’t like her but don’t wish her dead) jokingly… In the end, she wakes up looking like a used q-tip (ear bud for some of you) and falls asleep while talking to St Chris.. The End.

I don’t remember what the previews showed aside from MeGo confronting someone about the cheating rumors. Was that her pal, Jan? I said it before, I will say it again. I think she is a lot of things but cheater isn’t one of them. I would believe Joey would before I would think she would. That’s really the nicest thing I have to say about her at this point. Maybe she’ll give me something else. We’ll see in future episodes of Crapfest 2013.

Blog comments of the night? Who has dibs on Milania πŸ˜€ Luv me some Milania but I don’t know if I would want that little wild one around me for too long. I can barely handle the two I have now on a daily basis.

See ya next week… Til then, Peace.

MTH.

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294 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E11 – Children of the Scorned

  1. MTH!
    Good Morning and thanks for blogging the WHOLE DAMN THING! As for my thoughts, the meet and greet ended with a “I won’t talk about you if you don’t talk about me” and since we all follow them on twitter and such we know they don’t keep promises. I did think Juicy addressed autism in a guy-ish way…”hey, I know two people with autism and they are geniuses” (Paraphrases) this is not to say every person with autism is a genius, but Juicy was trying to have compassion and give a little hope. I also don’t understand how all of these people shop with questionable income…hmmm… As for Jac and her tummy. Me thinks Jac is looking for a cure/recover from autism in all the wrong places. She can nip and tuck everything and it will not change that her little guy has autism. People deal with these situations. Some people reach for the bottle, some take to their bed, others shop and now we see the one that shops, nips and tucks. I know she has stated she does not take meds (not believing), but she might want to deal with her own issues before trying to fix the surface areas… a little bit of Zoloft might make her a whole lot nicer and less likely to impulsively post shit on twitter.
    BTW, I found Ashlee (lol) to be a breath of fresh air! Her plumping in her lips is gone and she looked naturally pretty and happy! Sad that she is now more mature than her mom. Obviously the distance has done her good!
    Oh, and I was so disgusted by Joey asking Gia if she saw his ass…who hasn’t??? And who would have thunk that Gia would become the voice of reason on this show? Was Joey too big a man to say he should never ever have said what he said to Gia’s mom?
    Just my two cents! Thanks again MTH! xoxo!

    • TexasTart says:

      Hi story, for the record, Teresa is always positive on Twitter and does not address other cast members – it’s Jaq that can’t keep quiet!

    • melthehound says:

      I didn’t mess with Joe’s comments because to me, it was a bit like “…. I’m not a bigot because I have a black friend….. “. I know he was trying to be positive but sometimes he should just stfu. Actually that whole scene was painful to watch. Parts one and two. You may be right about all of Jac’s issues.

    • chismosa says:

      I saw plumped lips still on Ash

      I found the convo with Joe and Gia QUITE chopped up and edited but that may just be me.

    • Powell says:

      Story I like what you said and I never thought about if Jac is using plastic surgery as a bandaid to heal what’s going on in her family. But you’re right. People use different things to try to heal.

  2. cusi77 says:

    Am I the First?

    Thank you MelThe Hound! Good Morning Everyone!

  3. TexasTart says:

    Good Morning! Lots to read, thank you MTH! πŸ˜€

    • Laineylainey says:

      Morning, TT! How about that rain, yesterday? It was nice.

      Hi MTH, LOOKING FORWARD to reading your recap/blog. Haven’t watched it yet as we were obsessing w/Breaking Bad last night. It was awesome!

      • melthehound says:

        Is Breaking Bad back? πŸ˜€

        • Laineylainey says:

          Oh yeaaaaaahhhhh…it was so good. My hubby and I were still talking about it just now at din din.

      • chismosa says:

        God Lainey I’m so FOMO on that (fear of missing out)

        I’ll have to rent them all one day. Only 8 episodes this last season. Enjoy!

      • Powell says:

        Lainey did you watch Talking Bad? I don’t watch BB so it was a surprise to see TB was coming on. I watch the Low Winter Sun. I’m not sure about it yet.

        • Laineylainey says:

          Yes, Powell!!! Did you watch Talking Bad? They had the creator on…it was so good, he seems excited about it, too. The pretty blonde lady from Modern Family was on, too. She was a great guest and asked him really great questions…yeah, she kinda hijacked the show. In a cute way.

  4. ladebra says:

    Great recap Jeff. It was good to see Uncle Joey and Gia out having a nice time. Baby steps.

    And congratulations to Laineyson on the job and move back to TX. !

  5. Lulu says:

    Good Morning!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy monday! Wish me LOTS of luck!!! This momma has to run errands no choice hoping that the “governor” cooperates! πŸ˜‰

    MTH Fantastic job on the blog! I agree about F-nut wacky jacky I just don’t care enough about her life to tune in. But something DH pointed out…… Notice now BLK has an office??? Suspicious anyone? The previous episode according to the manzo boys it’s not profiting but now all of a sudden it is???? I smell Chris Laurita is falsifying records of “reported income” to keep the “feds” and “irs” at bay. Sorry Chris Uncle Sam is one mean S.O.B that makes the mafia pale in comparison. When you screw Uncle Sam over he doesn’t take lightly to it. We don’t know the outcome of Tre/Joe’s fall out. But using the tv to make up an excuse is just not wise.

    Hope wacky jacky kept the skin cause when she defaults their slapping it right back on her! πŸ˜‰

  6. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It’s Monday. Need I say more? Well the weather is nice so I hope that helps get thru the day. And MTH are you sure you don’t mean ‘Children of the Corn?”. Have a great day.

    • Noelle says:

      Hi, and Good Evening to you.
      Are you new posting here, and if so, Welcome.
      Please don’t feel you’ve been overlooked. Recaps of NJ on Monday’s and all the posters with thoughts they want to get out; well, it becomes hectic. πŸ˜‰
      Just wanted you to know that.
      Again, Welcome.

  7. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Good Morning All-missed you all!!!
    Great blog Jeff!
    The stripper pole thing had me worried b/c Bravo set it up so we believed that Milanoa just jumped on the pole and said “I’m Melissa”….that’s not what happened AT ALL!!! I’m glad it didn’t happen the way Bravo led us to believe! On WWHL Andy asked Melissa about it and she should have just said the truth but she didn’t-she wanted to play the victim and act like Melania just jumped on the pole and said that-even though she knew it wasn’t like that!!

    • chismosa says:

      I hope that was all….. Who knows with that “character” Milania and the sponge ears on kids. Just saying.

    • melthehound says:

      Ah well… She has to remain the martyr to sell her shitty book – I mean songs – I mean … What is she into now?

  8. chismosa says:

    I’m sorry I’m probably alone (most likely πŸ’ͺ) but this was disturbing to me—-
    I’m sorry but re: the talk of zio Joe and makeup Gia- Teresa should not, as a mother, be going to her 12 year old, (and younger i’m sure before that) – to cry out her problems. That is just bad parenting 101
    I’m sorry. Jmho. And this is coming from someone painfully close to her mother and whose mother was/is estranged from PLENTY of family members. That is just a no-no.

    I’m sorry Gia experienced that because it’s flat out wrong and also perpetuates that Gorilla is not there for Tre as a partner. Very very sad

    I hope Gia can clear her mind in the future through therapy and see if she can find an appropriate life partner and not do the same with her daughter.

    I’m a bit perturrred that
    Gia got teased at school for her uncle and not for her MOM??? I don’t believe that for a second. Not one SECOND. Table flips, stalking at the Brownstone, pushing people over ? And not counting the ‘cutesy’ ‘charming’ things Tre does. But her uncle??
    Smells fishy 🐟🐟😡😡

    I agree with all of you– doesn’t all makeup need to be removed for plastic surgery ? Unless WAcqjacqattack has eyelash extensions which are all the rage- and those were just somehow magnified where the cameras got her? Everyone is getting those these days
    I thought even nail polish needs to be removed during surgery? I swear from the old dr 90210 shows and other shows I could have sworn i remember women taking off nail polish too. I think, MTV – something with breast implants.

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    I’m watching all Miami now. Loving it! The gorgeous gorgeous party Adriana threw for her “man’s” parents’ 50th anniversary- I hope I get to throw something 1/2 as nice. I can’t wait to see her wedding gown….. Drooling.
    I’m SO going to miss Elsita and Ana and Marisol. NOT missing flared nostrils perma-smile carrier pigeon. πŸ“£πŸ“£πŸ“’πŸ“’πŸ‘ƒ

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Agree Chismosa – Gia knows waaaaaaaaaaaay too much about the family situation. Teresa didn’t hide it at all from her and saying ‘Gia’s a smart girl, she knows what’s going on,’ didn’t help. Gia has been exposed to far too much for a girl her age and that’s not very good mothering. There, I said it. NOT GOOD MOTHERING! Sorry, that’s how I feel.

      • chismosa says:

        Yes Husker I make no apologies for it. I can’t WAIT for Milania’s adorable teenage years ! Eh who am I kidding by then each girl will have a Heather to help them out. πŸ™‰
        I grew up strict and loved every moment of it. Adults are adults kids are kids.
        Thanks Husker!

        Ps how is your EAR doing these days?? πŸ‘‚πŸ‘‚ (ears)
        Hope much better….. xoxo

        • HuskerHuny says:

          There are days when the ear feels almost normal, but today it feels like it’s taken several steps backward. I’m having that cotton in the ear feeling again. I’m just going to deal with it. Thanks for asking!

          I grew up the youngest of four by quite a few years, so basically I grew up alone. I definitely learned right from wrong, but I didn’t push it. I knew when to speak and not to speak. Always knew my place. Saying that, I’m sure glad I’m not the mother of the Guidice girls. Cute for now, but watch out! Having those TV cameras around the past several years will not serve them well as they age.

          • chismosa says:

            Sorry to hear (lol) that its not fully cleared up yet HH. That really really sucks.

            Please do keep me posted on developments

    • melthehound says:

      Eh… We get it. Teresa and her little apes get on your nerves…. That Gia sure is a good actress and locksteps with what her mommy dearest wants. Already at the age of 12. Impressive.

    • Just Wondering In Jersey says:

      It used to be that you had to remove nail polish but with different types of anesthesia being used that is no longer the case. I last had surgery in 2007 and asked about the polish I had on my toenails and was told it didn’t have to come off.

      • chismosa says:

        Thanks JWIJ, I thought so!
        I always always for some reason think of your name as Just Wandering …. I don’t know why. But I lol to myself about it.
        Heehee

      • When I was in the hospital earlier this year – I had to remove the polish from my index finger for those clampy things. The reason was so that the reading would be accurate. The worse thing is whatever you call the nails you have glued onto your own.

    • I LOVE COFFEE says:

      I agree… Too much makeup and too much adult talk.

      Why…Why….Do parents put their children on reality tv?

      I guess so that they can hear their dad call their mom the C word.

    • Powell says:

      Chismosa when I had surgery I had to take off the polish. I think the doc said so they can see your coloring on the nails. It should be no makeuo & no polish. On these shows its not the first time I’ve noticed that.

  9. Rebecca says:

    Good morning! Jeff – great blog. Thanks for sparing me!

  10. cathy connor says:

    Morning all checking in my stupid job blocked all entertainment sites from my work computer am on phone reading (not easy) Hope everyone doing well

  11. Kat From Ohio says:

    yeah it bothered me too that even on wwhl melissa was suggesting that milania made the pole comment out of the blue and in reference to the stripping rumors. what clearly happened was the other adults trying to get melissa to go on the pole, she refused, but milania was more than happy to do it instead. that’s all that i think was meant by the “i’m going on the pole” remark. it’s gross that the show–and then later melissa– are trying to imply that it was something that it’s not.

    i’ve never been able to stand ashley (i refuse to call her ashlee). we’re just about the same age… if she behaved that poorly in front of cameras, i can only imagine what a terror she was when they were off. she wanted camera time and was old enough to make the decision to participate in the show (as opposed to the giudice girls who are not). while jacqueline probably could have tried harder to avoid filming with ashley, i don’t think she has EVER really been able to control her–other than the financially. and once ashley got some bravo checks, even that control didn’t exist anymore. ashley became jacqueline’s storyline because ashley herself was a willing and eager participant: pulling a middle aged woman’s hair on camera and laughing about it and verbally abusing her mother. i’ve never felt bad for ashley. she’s a brat who has had a lot of love and opportunities. i know a lot of people don’t like chris laurita, but honestly that man is a saint to have tolerated her crap for so long. he really seems to love her and want to be there for her as a father figure.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Melissa had the perfect chance to clear things up when Andy asked her about-by not taking the chance it shows me what kind of person she is!!!

      • chismosa says:

        Jill even though she’s enemy #1 and like saddam Hussein and Lucifer and Death and Cancer and all that, and every.single.thing. is her fault, I must say I think she was very forthright and stand up in her support for Tre and the legal situations. Or, maybe no one is pleased with how she handled that. Because it could never ****✳✳✳✳✳ be right.

        Also, loved the new style of her hair, but felt it was too light.

        Also Elizabeth Moss- you already are on my $hitlist for being a Xenu follower but to adore the DON!?!? why do these superb legit actors get on WWH and soil themselves with Bravo. Stop slumming!!! Smh. πŸ’©πŸ’©

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Chismosa -I’m not talking about her being forthright with her support of Teresa-I’m talking only about how she didn’t set Andy(and the viewers) straight about the Melaina thing.

          • chismosa says:

            Oh I gotchou—- for sure, just saying I kind of thought that adamant Melissa burn at the stakers would have found her support for Tre nice.
            Sorry should have included in my soliloquy above instead of here.
            I didnt know if anyone watched WWH.

            It’s just I think she honestly was nice and well-spoken and heartfelt about it.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              I didn’t watch all of WWHL so I didn’t know she said anything about Teresa-do you remember what she said??

              • chismosa says:

                Oh just that they were on good terms now and of course they have spoken since the “39” came down (a caller asked). And that she and Joe would be there for her and the girls no matter what… Something to that effect.

                And not in an annoying talking out the side of her mouth way. Ha

        • LaineyLainey says:

          You have the best Melissa put-downs, Chismy. πŸ™‚ I didn’t see WWHL, E. Moss, adores the Red don? Oh my!!!

    • melthehound says:

      I didn’t say I felt sorry for Ashley (I reject the EE as well)… I said she was treated like shit on the show and that getting away from her mother was probably one of the best things that could have happened to her. Caused by her own doing? Likely true. She was never the model young woman on the show, that’s for certain. I don’t feel Sorry, for any of them. They’re all terrible.

      • Kat From Ohio says:

        I know you didn’t, but I’ve seen a lot of people comment that they feel sorry for her… I definitely don’t.

        • HuskerHuny says:

          Never felt sorry for Ashley. Unfortunately she was the daughter of someone who was too young to have children and probably made every mistake a young mother could and never learned how to stop making them. That’s where Ashley’s sense of entitlement came from. She never heard the word ‘no’ until it was too late.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I do. She didn’t have a chance with Jac at the helm for so much of her life. I don’t know why, but I still have hope. Not that she’ll be president, but that she’ll grow up.

        • Called A Princess says:

          I do too. To me Ashley is an extension of her mothers bad parenting and own selfishness. Jackie reminds me of Laurie from the OC, no real time to raise the old family. Out with the old and in with the new. The Laurita’s were probably not all the welcoming either. They like boys in that family, much more then girls.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Ashley acted like a s**t on the show, but I also think she was treated poorly by her relatives, especially her own mother. Sorry but raising kids isn’t a popularity contest nor are parents supposed to be “friends” with their kids. The fact that she just got shipped off by Chris to become someone else’s problem really sucked the big one! As she gets older, sadly Ashley sees just how crazy and immature her mother really is! It has to drive Wacky even more crazy because Ashley is the spitting image of her mother at the age her mother aspires and nips and tucks to be.

        • Noelle says:

          Once again Windy, You’ve nailed it!
          You’re one smart cookie, while looking fine in all MY *sighs* wonderful boots! πŸ˜‰
          Great comment!

    • chismosa says:

      Totally agree about AshleY and love that you don’t want to call her by her new spelling.
      What blogs does she write for? She makes enough to live on her own in LA?

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I think she has a blog on Buzznet…let me see if I can find it

          • chismosa says:

            To semi quote lucille Bluth: I don’t understand the spelling of her first name and I won’t respond to it.

            Thanks for finding this. Just got my PC back so I’m excited to venture onto normal sites again. πŸ™„
            πŸ˜›

            • realhousewifeva says:

              Why do people care how Ashlee chooses to spell her name? lol…Honest question..why is it so bothersome? Is there a rule book out there that Ashlee/Ashley can only be spelled a certain way?

              • chismosa says:

                I just personally for me— not everyone— don’t like when people change the spelling
                of their name their parents gave them. That’s why I don’t call Miami’s Marisol MarYsol because it is not the proper Spanish name and I find it lame. She changed it.

                Asslee is just ridiculous character-wise is why I think most don’t go for it.
                Again, not speaking for everyone …..

                Just a quirky annoying bravo HWs thing I guess. πŸ˜‹

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  You saw Marysol’s birth certificate? If not, then How do you know she changed it? LOL!!!! You’re assuming, huh?

                  • chismosa says:

                    Lainey it was said by her or on blogs years ago. I didnt come up with that I SWEAR on my parents’ life and my dogs’ life.
                    They can drop dead if I’m lying.

                    • Laineylainey says:

                      No need for all that death and destruction, Chismosa. πŸ™… I believe you. I believe you! I have been wondering how you knew this, because you have said this before. I have a q for u. If someone in your real life changed their name and said I want to be called for example, Leeney, not Lainey. Would you comply or would you refuse?

              • Kat From Ohio says:

                it’s only because it’s her… honestly. she changed her name to “ashlee” right around the time she used her parents’ credit card and got the lip injections and the blonde extensions. the name change was a part of that “transformation” she was hell bent on making… all she actually accomplished was showing us how nasty she was.

                if she’s changed then that’s good and i’m glad. but her twitter activity tells another story.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Hilarious that Lucille said that…so funny. Especially since Lucille named her son Gob (but it’s pronounced like the bibles “Job”) haha!!!

              Best Lucille line (I’m paraphrasing) “I would cry but I can’t spare the moisture.” bwahhahahaha!

  12. Kat From Ohio says:

    i’m looking forward to miami. i’m glad they ditched ana…. she pretended to be above it all but she stirred the sh*t the most. karent was a silly woman at best, but she didn’t really bother me. the other women were horrible to her. one of the most surprising housewives of any franchise was lisa. i thought she was going to be nothing more than a mean bimbo, and she actually turned out to one of the sweetest housewives ever. hoping she stays that way in her second season.

    • chismosa says:

      Kat I just learned right now that Lisa’s Canadian. So ….. Your girl on OC – I don’t watch– low ears Lydia- turned out to be nice and Lisa (despite looking cat-lady like to me)- is nice too. Very Canadian. Maybe this is the bravo thing, drop 1 Canadian into a bunch to sweeten them up.

      I fervently disagree about Ana, but it’s cool many dont like her; i am pissed there’s only 2 Latin women on now but whatever I’m still going to watch. 😀😀

      • Kat From Ohio says:

        yeah that really does suck. the two are Adriana and Alexia? I think they really need to add one or two. Will there be any friends of the housewives this season? i bet we’ll still be seeing marta and marisol pretty frequently, but i wish we could get a new wife.

        • Kat From Ohio says:

          PS–marisol is in the promo so i guess that is confirmation that we’ll be seeing a lot of her. i bet it will be like alexia last year… still around a lot but not really filmed on her own

          • cusi77 says:

            I like Marisol… I did not watch much last season.. perhaps one or two episodes and in the commercials while watching any other Bravo program. I found them (the little I saw) too loud. The Canadian woman is the one who can’t have babies? If yes… she is really sweet!

        • chismosa says:

          Yes we’ll see Ana and Marisol a bit. And from the cryptic way Ana speaks about why/how she becomes a “friend” of, I totally think queen Lea sics her law goons on Ana somehow to get her off the show.

          And what I’m hearing now is that Leah πŸ™„ is bffs with Joanna— now that Adriana sees the light and some stuff came between her and Lea.
          Hence, tonight Joanna and Lea alone on WWH.
          I hope Adrianna calls in to curse out Joanna again. Lol.

          Joanna annoys me

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Joanna annoys me too-Adrianna makes me laugh and when she curses with her accent I love it!! She needs to chill a little cause she flies off the handle and says the most outlandish things!!!

          • LaineyLainey says:

            Marysol and Ana were quite boring last season. The most interesting thing about Marysol is her mom.

            The most interesting thing about Ana was what she did at the reunion. Marysol is a “friend” to the cast again? No biggie, like I said, borring. I was actually looking forward to seeing Ana as a HW this season since she seemed to have drawn a line in the sand at the reunion, I thought that would make her more interesting than the way she was portrayed last season. She was out to get or expose Leah and well, even if it’snot “nice” – it would have been super interesting. (maybe not to Lea/Leah) The paradox or hypocrisy of Ana, why I didn’t buy in to her storyline last season…successful in her career, loser at love…doing her ex husband’s laundry, yet making fun of Karent for her own romantic delusions, crying at the end of their marriage, while he..um…didn’t? Again, how is that different from Karent’s delusions. What I am saying is that Ana had her own romantic delusions, but nobody seemed to notice. She certainly didn’t. Putting up with her ex’s comments about his new woman. It was kind of doormat-ish of her. It just didn’t match with the way she dealt with everything else in her life. I understand it, it’s understandable, but I don’t want to watch that on my hw show. I found it boring. The dynamic with her girls was cute, though…kinda smarmy and sarcastic when they were all together… but that’s ok. They are all pretty and successful and sometimes that’s how beautiful people behave. They’re all super smart, too. Many super smarties can have a touch of sarcasm. It would be nice if, when we do get to see her, that she has nothing to do with her ex and that perhaps we see her dating, looking super glamorous and maybe interacting with her girls.

            • windycitywondering2 says:

              IMHO, Ana did draw a line in the sand at the reunion and Bravo said not to go there. There are reports that Ana started the season filming as a regular HW but then became a “friend”…so maybe she didn’t listen to what the boss (Bravo) told her. Her delusions were the saddest of all to me because she wants to be seen as a strong, modern, career oriented woman so as to be a good role model for her gorgeous daughters. Good intentions but bad execution.

  13. Sasha says:

    Salutations!!!!

    Last night was the most that I have enjoyed a NJ show in a long time. No fighting and the name calling was mostly in jest.

    The only thing that I was actually saddened by is that Greg is leaving and taking Deloris with him. I like him and thought he was funny. Missed seeing him this season. Caroline caught me off guard with the crying. I didn’t know she cared so much.

    Loved seeing Teresa running around and being playful with the girls.

    Disliked Milania testing her stripper skills. Wonder where she learned that from and to associate it with Melissa.

    Ashley looked very pretty and seemed to be maturing. I just might put her back on my good list because I was disgusted with her for pulling Danielle’s hair(extentions) and not regretting her actions.

    I did not want to see Jacqueline’s tummy in a pan. People have plastic surgery all the time so I won’t knock her for taking the lazy way out as some call it. I do think surgery was required on the neck though. There was no coming back from that one. Why did she go to Zumba if she was going to be a wall flower?

    Liked Joe and Gia’s time together. I do believe that she thinks that Melissa has stolen him away from her. She adores him. I think the kids tease her about more than just her uncle. There is a lot of material to work with.

    • chismosa says:

      Yup yup. Hi Sasha. Happy Munday to you

    • melthehound says:

      Her skin wasn’t in a pan, it was displayed on a table like it was being presented for the night’s menu. I didn’t mention it in the recap because mine crawled off of my body, moved across the floor and out the door then, ran down the street.

    • plainviewsue says:

      I thought Greg’s cancer party comment was disgusting.

      It’s already been stated above. Milania didn’t just come up with the stripper comment. Melissa & Juicy were joking about Melissa on the pole and THEN Milania said it.

      As for Assley, keep her on the naughty list!!! She tweeted and then delete a nude picture of herself. She was covering her boobies with her hand. She’s also gone after Teresa and Danielle in recent tweets.

      She’s back living at home in NJ. According to the manifesto, it’s cos she wants to go to a make up school in NY. According to twitter, her boyfriend broke up with her & I guess had no where else to go.

      • Sasha says:

        Milania didn’t have to come up with the comment but she did a follow through. Maybe it’s just something that I wouldn’t want my young daughter to do.

        I’m still keeping Ashley on probation because things can still turn around and she could become the first female president.

        I’ve heard far worse than Greg’s comment here and on the show but that’s just me.

        • melthehound says:

          Well, as someone who watched for a year, as his mother died of Cancer, I wanted the butt whistler Greggy’s balls in a frying pan. I’m sure I’m alone in that sentiment though. Then again, I’ve never been able to stand him.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          you’re right, there have been other horrible comments, the difference is that he probably won’t get called out on it by Mr. Cohen. If the Guidice’s had said the same.,,,whoah…watch out, willy wonky would be on that like fur on mice.

          • melthehound says:

            Willy Wonky πŸ˜† …

          • Sasha says:

            I agree that it was an insensitive joke but I think this has more to do with it coming from Greg.

            As for Andy and calling out people on their comments……

            Sorry to say but him seems to take quicker offense if it sounds homophobic.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              I think it’s not about it coming Greg…I think anyone who’s lost a loved one, gets a pang of “ouch” with insensitive comments. Even Mother Teresa had said it, I’d be scratching my head saying…”wha? huh?…how insensitive (albeit temporarily which we all suffer from at times.)

              True to the dat about Andy jumping on mostly homophobic comments.

              • LaineyLainey says:

                about it coming from …

              • Sasha says:

                I have lost 2 close loved ones to cancer but perhaps I am able to deal with the comment. Such is life.
                For the record, I read a lot here that is not my way of thinking but I keep mum.

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  why do you keep mum? just wondering. Are you saying I should keep mum? huh? is that it? just kidding!!! totally kidding!!!

                  My point, you don’t have to keep mum…but if you want, that’s your choice. mums the word.

                  • Sasha says:

                    Lainey, I like having fun with my comments and sometimes everyone else seems so serious.

                    I don’t know why I see things totally opposite of most of you, but that’s just part of my charm.

                    I am loaded with sarcasm, but I am working on that.

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      I’m going to agree, that IS part of your charm. I was way more sarcastic when I was younger, yes, I was worse (or better?) but sarcasm isn’t always great in a marriage nor as a parent. Better to be direct with the important folks, unless they are not the TARGETS of my sarcasm, then they just LOVE MY SARCASM!! (NOT BEING SARCASTIC) HAHA.

                  • chismosa says:

                    Lainey LOL

                    And you were more sarcastic before?? Wow!
                    πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                • LaineyLainey says:

                  Sasha, Sasha, Sasha…the irony is not lost on me,… how insensitive of me to not acknowledge your loss. I am sincerely sorry for your loss.

  14. realhousewifeva says:

    I didn`t see the full epi, so thank you MTH for taking one for the team and recapping Jac`s parts as well πŸ™‚

    I do want to comment about the tummy thing. As a Personal Trainer, I can tell you that it has a lot to do with genes as well, not always just exercise. Of course, exercise is important, but sometimes even just one pregnancy can really do a number on someone`s tummy area. I have had 4 kids. 3 of them were within 5 years of eachother, and not to toot my horn/ just for sake of example, but I never got stretch marks and my body bounced RIGHT back (with good eating and exercising as well). My belly is flat and smooth. However, I had a client who had 3 kids who were all spaced apart (5 years between each) and her tummy is a MESS. There is nothing that exercise will do to fix it, and she would be better off for her own confidence and peace of mind, to go a surgical route to smooth her belly. The amount of stretch marks, flabby skin, etc. that she has will not be cured with good eating or exercise. She actually is very fit and works hard, but her belly was messed up by the stretching during her pregnancy. She complained so much about it and i never believed her because she looked so good to me, until she showed me. It was actually kind of shocking to see.

    I also commented on the last blog or so, but Gia wears way too much makeup. My daughter is 12 and beyond flavored lipgloss once in a while, she is not allowed to wear makeup. She has plenty of 12 year old friends and they don`t wear makeup like that either. Maybe some mascara or something, but I don`t really even notice that. Who knows if they sneak it when we aren`t around, but I don`t really think my daughter does. She doesn`t even ask about it. There is plenty of time for young girls to glob their face with that junk..middle school is not one of those times. Gia already dresses too sexy/old for her age. Her parents should make her tone it down, IMO.

    I saw the Preview clip on Bravo when Jan confronts Melissa and I am SHOCKED at how scared Melissa looks. She didn`t even want to confront Jan…Jan is the one who confronts her… says a lot, IMO. …very interesting…
    If my `friend` was going around spreading `rumors` about me and my ex, I sure would be a lot more confrontational and confident in myself than Melissa seems in that clip..

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I agree with the whole Jan thing-if it were me I would have been in her face asking her why she was saying such things…Melissa looks like she wants to run and hide but Bravo loves to trick us with the previews!!!!!

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I forgot to say that I agree about the make up thing-I have a almost 13 year old and she wouldn’t know the first thing about putting on make up….my 7 year old however-is a pro at it!!!

        • plainviewsue says:

          Gia’s been on a reality show for now five seasons. She also did modeling where there was makeup. It didn’t bother me. Gia is a very mature and smart girl. She owned her uncle during the conversation.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          haha, I love it, reminds me of me and my little sis. She was 3 years younger and always way more anxious to do grown up and big lady things than I was. I remember running home to tell her about sex (when I saw the film at school)…I thought I was being so naughty…she replied “you didn’t know about that? you are soooooo stuuuuuuupid.” Which led to me hitting her or something, pulling hair…who knows. My mother made me start shaving my hairy legs when I was in 7th grade. I cried. My little sis was like “I’ve been shaving mine since forever!!! You are sooooooo stuuuuuuupid!”

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Haha Lainey that funny!! Maggie is always trying to talk Annabelle into wearing make-up!! Belle wants nothing to do with it and Maggie just shakes her head and says” what a shame”……she kills me!!!!

      • cusi77 says:

        I don’t believe any Bravo preview… If it was me… I will totally go Bananas-Oklahoma on that Jan person and I am half intense than Melissa! Next week we’ll see… I have been kid so many times now to believe in Bravo’s editing!

        • melthehound says:

          That’s best, Cusi. Don’t believe any of it and you’ll be just fine, It is kind of a shame that this network has taken what I’ve read was once something fun and uplifting and sent it in to the trash TV heap. There are very few redeeming qualities about any of them anymore and I doubt in my time with the HWs, there ever were.

    • Sasha says:

      Realhousewife, I agree with you on the tummy. I am one of the lucky ones with not one stretch mark and I swear my stomach was back to flat without any working out.

      I have also seen my sister’s stomach which she hates. She walks about 5 miles a day and works out but that tummy ain’t going no where.

      • chismosa says:

        Wow Sasha …… Lucky you!

        • Sasha says:

          Chis, now I just worry about getting squats in to keep my bottom firm.(laugh)

          • Noelle says:

            Hi Sasha,
            I like you was extremely fortunate to not to have one stretch mark on my stomach after several pregnancies. (I gained 90lbs@most with one, and it wasn’t even my first.)
            I also gained everywhere, as did my Mom, (who had a lot more babies then me πŸ˜‰ ) and she had no stretch marks on her stomach either.
            I believe and know genetics play a huge factor, but being fit and pushing yourself to exercise (Even when one doesn’t want to) is a factor too, IMO. Extremely important.
            As far as your bottom, look into a kick/boxing class.
            It really is a lot of fun and it ‘s like killing ‘one bird’ with lots of stones!

            • Noelle says:

              Totally messed that up..story of my life!!! jk LOL
              “Kill lots of birds with one stone!” Made myself laugh!
              Ahh, Rainey, stormy Mondays! xo

            • Noelle says:

              I see you Nancy, shaking your head in disappointment.
              Just a saying..that I totally screwed up.
              xoxo πŸ˜‰

      • cusi77 says:

        Sasha I am too one of the lucky ones about the tummy: First of all I had just one kid; pregnancy started showing up when I was 6 Months pregnant and he was born at 7 months of pregnancy, he was premature.

        But I have friends that since the first baby their tummy skin was like a balloon without air, even though that they did not win lots of weight during their pregnancies, so there is no rule to whom or how to not have stretch marks.

        Like MelTheHound said, he does not have experience on that… if a surgery is going to help her feel attractive (sp) … GO FOR! If you need too many and either way you feel insecure.. go to see a psychiatrist! No surgery will change what is in the inside. JMHO.

    • chismosa says:

      RHE– that is very interesting about the stomach thing because I thought everyone’s essentially gets ruined in a way by pregnancy no matter what you were before or during pregnancy. So fascinating !

      I may ask you more about this another time—-

      Ps I’m not a parent but I’m glad I’m not the only one to think Gia’s got too much makeup on

    • melthehound says:

      Okay.. I watch these shows one time through and what you get in the recaps is what’s in my memory. I know the ladies here will fill in the rest if I miss anything big. I am not going to argue with someone who has one, about the make up habits of the modern 12yo girl on the go. It’s a fading one but I do have memories of them in school and they did wear it. I’m not talking full on Saturday night hooker make up but things like eye shadow (blue seemed a favorite color), blush on the cheeks, and sometimes lipstick. This predates Lip Gloss, I’m pretty certain. Did they have permission? Who knows? I didn’t live in their houses. I do know if they went too far with it, they had to go wash it off. I agree with those who say there will be plenty of time in life for them to glob on the war paint. I actually don’t like make up on a girl/woman… I always get the feeling she’s hiding something.

      I agree and have said, Gia is too old for her actual age. She knows too much and dresses way too mature. She is not a shut in though, does go to school, and I assume has friends that she talks to. She’s been on this show half her life and I doubt it’s a secret to anyone she knows. I am also certain they find a way to watch, even if they aren’t supposed to, and discuss it with her. To assume that doesn’t happen, is just plain naive IMO, on everyone’s part.

      I appreciate and do not doubt your commentary on the tummy tuck. You may be one hundred percent correct in Jac’s case. I don’t know and I’m simply expressing an opinion when I comment on it. I don’t know if she’s tried to work at it or not, like the rest, I don’t live in her house. I only go by what I see and even when she had a trainer come by, she couldn’t get into the idea of working out. She drove 45 minutes (or miles) to a gym, and did nothing. Maybe at this point, she had given up trying and had already made her decision about the surgery.. Who knows?

      As for MeGo and Jan, I hope she does confront her friend about the rumors. However, it’s a Bravo preview edit and I give them exactly the credibility they deserve. Zero. I didn’t like it when the cast was talking about Joe cheating (whether he is or not) and I don’t like it when it happens to the Gorgas. It’s a vile thing to say regardless of who is saying it and regardless of who it is said about. Prove it or shut the phuck up about it. Or, just simply shut the phuck up about it.

    • lulu says:

      Rhva not to change the subject………. I’m 2 months postpartum and my belly is flat, my six pack came right back. But the issue I have is when I sit I have an ugly roll. Will exercising fix it or is this the price I pay or two babies 2.5 years apart? 😦

      • Noelle says:

        Hi lulu,
        Dearest Sweets, give yourself a break! Two months since you brought your beautiful baby into the world
        You do understand it takes a year for your body to return to “normal.”
        You’ll be fine. xoxo

      • Laineylainey says:

        Wow…!! Good for you, Lulu!

    • mm in oc says:

      I started wearing makeup in 6th grade. Not that I was very skilled at applying it. My mom took me to merle norman (I know I’m dating myself) to get me the right palette and team me how to apply. what a difference. I can’t fault Gia for wearing makeup at her age and in this time. I’m actually shocked when I see girls that age not wearing makeup.

      I have more of a problem with short shorts and middrift tops. In southern california, most 12 year olds look 18 (not that it’s a good thing). I always wonder ‘where are the parents’??

  15. plainviewsue says:

    For the most part, I really did enjoy this episode. Too much Jacq, but very little Melissa!

    I could watch the kids interactions for the whole episode! Victoria looked miserable when she walked into Teresa’s house. Please Victoria, don’t learn from miserable Lauren!!!!!

    Greg’s cancer party comment was disgusting. Albie needs to get out of NJ.

    Cannot wait to see Jan confront Melissa. On WWHL, Melissa said people will do anything to get attention and get on a show. Oh Melissa………..it would be such karma if Jan became a HW next season!!

    “Who’s Kathy” said by Milania. Yeah, that about sums that up!!!!!!

    • realhousewifeva says:

      LOL @ Melissa saying that! It is very true Melissa…people will do anything, just like you did. And things have a way of going around in a circle…be careful. Jan does not seem to be too worried, judging from that preview clip online

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        I thought Melissa’s comment about attention seekers was funny. Considering what she did to get on the show…so having her alleged transgressions come to light seem like the natural route Bravo would take. BUT what bothers me is her not wanting to defend her own honor…. My honor and my word are very important to me!

    • Sasha says:

      I guess I am one of those that thinks she is doing better.

      Cute Pic…..

      Just girls being girls…..

      Playboy will be calling soon……….

      • LaineyLainey says:

        i see nothing that bad about it, except that she’s putting out these images for free. I say, show your stuff if you want, while you got it, but make ’em pay!! Maybe I’m a closet ho-bag. My husband does not agree with my thoughts on this, especially when it comes to his daughter. haha!!!

      • Amalfi says:

        Hey wow… Ashlee doesn’t look like a toad naked like I’d always imagined. It must’ve been her fat face that always threw me.

        Good for you, Ashlee and if Playboy calls — take it before they come to their senses. .

      • LaineyLainey says:

        She could do that, she’s pretty enough (to do playboy).

        • realhousewifeva says:

          I think it is a sign of our voyeuristic times, and not in a good way, that people think posting nude pictures of yourself on social media and following it with tweets bragging about how bad and drunk you were the night before– is normal. I hope my kids never think this is normal or okay. Morals be gone in this day of reality TV and overexposure. Thinking playboy is a goal to meet…sad. Just my opinion.

          • LaineyLainey says:

            You are right, of course. I grew up, as an older teen, with a lot of porn magazines within view. My mother allowed my older brother to openly have it. I grew a bit desensitized and it warped my mind a little bit. However, as I grew up, I learned to substitute the images and “impure” thoughts with things that are more edifying. It was a struggle. I still lean a little “blue” as some of you might have noticed in my humor. I don’t mean to offend, but sometimes my brain just goes “there.” As a mother, I did not allow pornographic material in my home. My kids are a bit more uptight about it (sensitive about it) than I ever was,…and I’m glad. My son tried to post pics on his bedroom wall of women showing their asses (in thongs) and I and his dad made him take the images down out of respect for the females in our home. He said that all his friends made fun of him for having a baby room (he was 13), because he had posters of sports stuff or of jokes…but no naked ladies. My husband told him, what’s the point of getting yourself all stimulated all of the time? And also, he said, that while women are beautiful and they are supposed to turn men on…the females in his life are first people with brains and feelings, not inhuman objects. but I guess, because of what I saw,…that is why I think Playboy is tame in comparison. Its not a goal I have for my own daughter,…but if Ashlee/Ashley who posts semi nude pics of herself on social media (for free) is interested in doing it. I personally think she could do it. However, She may not be interested in that at all!!!! Again, I do believe your thinking is right on. i respect you.

          • Sasha says:

            Don’t think of it as a goal. How about a career stepping stone. Most of us wouldn’t do it but it works for some. No judgement from me.

          • Rebecca says:

            If this was my niece, she’d be on her way to a convent by now.

      • chismosa says:

        It’s a SELFIE nation

        😦

  16. Nancy says:

    No nail polish allowed in the OR. (Capillary Refill)
    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003394.htm

    No eating for 12 hours before surgery. You need to have an empty stomach in case the
    patient vomits and aspirates it into their lungs.

    • Amalfi says:

      She did ask about having a burrito and that dumb doctor just said something stupid like ;… just take it easy. He should have told her what you posted. Is he dumb?

      I guess filling up your stomach with a gigantic taco salad and tequila before a tummy tuck makes perfect sense Jac though. Nice going, birdbrain.

      • Nancy says:

        We tell patients to have a light dinner and no alcohol so I’m not sure what he was thinking. Anesthesia drugs have come a long way so patients aren’t aspirating as much
        so I think some doc’s don’t take it as seriously as they used to. I think it’s sloppy doctoring but what do I know as I’m “ONLY A NURSE!!!!!”. LOL

        • HuskerHuny says:

          I have always had a problem with anesthesia. I always have a queezy stomach post surgery and usually something comes up, which is quite painful depending on where your stitches are. I was wide awake during my heart cath, D&C and a few other procedures and didn’t have a problem at all with them.

  17. VV says:

    I haven’t read the blog or comments yet. I will later on this afternoon. I want to go on record to say the comment Milania made about pole dancing IS ANOTHER FABRICATION of Bravo. Is Milania capable of doing it, I think so. However, Bravo played their favorite trick on us yesterday. You hear words and either don’t see the person’s face saying it or you see the back of that person as they play the sound. That bus ride was edited by an editor in training. It was that bad.

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      Just like the promo with Melissa saying who wants to know about my past and they show Teresa’s face! Sorry but T is more concerned with her family’s good name and pursuing that line of questioning that would ultimately hurt her parents just wouldn’t happen! Bravo does salacious promos very well.

  18. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Thank you MTH! Great recap. I kind of watched bits and pieces of it last night. Saw Caroline breakdown. Did you see the look on Chris and Albie’s faces? They really cannot stand their mother. Lauren is a pill. All she ever does is eat and bitch.
    Ashley looked good. Jac’s parents looked like they were thinking the same thing that we are posting…their daughter is nuts.
    As for the tummy tuck. I am one of the unlucky women who stomach did not bounce back. I had my two boys 13 mos apart. First time I was fine but getting pregnant again so soon killed it. I will always have a little pooch. Work abs all the time and nothing. I hear tummy tucks are quite painful. I don’t have the cash so Mr. AZGirl is going to love me as I am. I do have great legs and arms. Butt looks good too. Can’t have everything.
    Missed the Gia/Joey meeting and the stripper pole. Did not watch WWHL.

    I really love when NJ is on. It really makes for good blogging and posts.

    • melthehound says:

      As a 300 pound man, been 400+, I don’t present myself as an expert on fitness. Also, as such, my belly would never win any beauty contests unless being judged by a chubby chaser.

      • Nancy says:

        MEL…If you want you should join our “Health/Diet Club” on the separate page from the blog. A bunch of us are in the same boat so it’s kind of fun. πŸ™‚

        • melthehound says:

          I appreciate the invite Nancy but I know what I have to do and for the most part, have done it. Candy now tastes terrible to me as do many fast foods. I use to love butterfingers. Now just the smell triggers the gag reflex. I haven’t had a donut in years. Well, maybe one or two here and there, Can’t claim perfection, I’m the poster child for type 2 adult onset diabetes. Grandpa had it, dad had it, I knew it could happen and did nothing to avoid it. I was 450 at that point. My actual current weight depends on what scale I step on. A lot of that loss has been in the last year. Lynn’s sudden death scared the shit out of me, I held my breath almost too long as my 49th came and went,

          • Nancy says:

            How did you get to hate the smell of candy? I LOVE Butterfingers! Congratulations
            on your current weight loss. I’m sure it was hard work. Have you tried eating protein bars in the place of a meal? I have lost10 lbs doing that and I haven’t been hungry at all.
            As far as the blog goes we just give each other support and stuff. πŸ™‚

            • melthehound says:

              Pretty simple actually.. I ate so many I got sick of them. Same with donuts. French fries (fast food ones), and many other foods. If I could do that with Pasta, I’d be all set πŸ˜‰ I don’t eat anything with anymore grease than comes in the food itself and you know I love my steaks. That is, no added oil of any kind (because I don’t want to buy it). I don’t bake and don’t buy baked goods. I get that kind of stuff once or twice a year at family events and the sweetness of it makes my teeth want to fall out. There are still things I do that I shouldn’t but I Try to keep it moderated. For the most part though, if I wouldn’t feed it to my dog, I don’t eat it either.

              • Nancy says:

                So what would you eat in a day?

                • melthehound says:

                  Typical food. I don’t do anything special really. I don’t measure or count calories either. As a diabetic, I’m doing it all wrong I’m sure. Doc wants me to ‘graze’ and eat several small meals in a day but, I’ve never been able to get use to that. For me it’s about the carbs and starches. Avoid them, and my weight drops like a rock. I look like Adam Sandler in the movie Fast Forward though when he wakes in a hospital bed having lost a couple hundred pounds, fast. Things don’t snap back the way they use to πŸ˜‰

          • Laineylainey says:

            MTH – I am part of that group butI’m a fraud. I’m not really trying to lose weight or be fit. Not really. I’m still in the talking stage.

          • Noelle says:

            Use Olive oil to replace butter.(Herbs and spices are key.)
            NEVER use “margarine” ever again. All kinds of bad contained in that.
            Best of luck to you.

            • melthehound says:

              I don’t use oil or butter and have bought maybe 2 pounds of Margarine in 3 years. A lot of stuff I’ve learned is ‘bad’ for us, I don’t eat anyway πŸ˜‰ … Favorite spices, Garlic and Pepper. The more the better πŸ˜€

              • Noelle says:

                Jeff,
                All I’m stating Is olive oil is actually good for you.
                Good fats.
                So if a recipe calls for(I take it you don’t cook very often..eh?) any kind of butter or oil…stick with Olive oil or unsalted butter if you like butter.
                Do not use, eat “margarine.” Awful for your body.

                • melthehound says:

                  Thank you Noelle, I appreciate that. No, I don’t ‘cook’ very much at all. Sometimes I want to but it always requires a trip to the grocery store. I don’t typically buy oil of any kind because I don’t use it and it goes bad.

                  I saw a documentary on Netflix about the food we are being served in this country and just about everything is bad for us, and addicting. Moreso than say, cigarettes even. The really sad part of it is, most of this is government mandated (follow the $$$$$$$) by people who completely deny any knowledge of the science being presented, Sadly it costs more money to avoid the ‘bad’ food and hence, a nation of fat dumb and happy people. Until they end up in the hospital. Then it’s fat dumb and sick people.

                  • Noelle says:

                    I’m hypoglycemic, so 4 or 5 high protein, small meals per day works for me.
                    The government doesn’t give a shit about us. I don’t even want to see that ‘documentary’ cause it’ll just tell me more of the same, and that will just make me sad and angry.

                    • melthehound says:

                      That’s about what I am supposed to do with eating but I don’t. I could never get use to it.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hi Miss Good Butt, arms and legs: Congrats, I know you work hard for that. Your tummy didn’t bounce back? Mine is still bouncing around, maybe there’s hope.

    • Nancy says:

      AZGirl…tell me how you get a great looking butt please. πŸ™‚ Mine went away after I stopped skating.

    • Rebecca says:

      Dear AZGirl,

      Are you accused of pilfering $55 from company funds? Are you being investigated for fraud? Do you have a $365,000 tax lien? Do you REFUSE to work out? No? Then please don’t compare yourself to Wacky Jacky. Jacky is less then pond scum. You’re worth diamonds.

      My rant of the day….

    • chismosa says:

      You have great arms and legs —— I’m sorry that was cute ….

  19. Amalfi says:

    Hee hee.. WWHL is on repeat here and during one of Andy’s dumb games, they had to guess the melody or words to different TV shows. The look on Melissa’s face when it was ‘Downton Abbey” they had to guess was priceless. Hahahaha.

    • melthehound says:

      I guess it isn’t on the top pop 100 is it?

      • Amalfi says:

        I watched every episode and wouldn’t be able hum the opening at all — unlike the Mad Men chick could – kudos, It was just the dead stone silence later followed by futile attempts to look like she was thinking really really hard. hahaha

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Or the Bravo top 5

    • realhousewifeva says:

      I like Melissa with lighter hair…but not as light as it was on WWHL (I saw some of the repeat today, too). Wayyy too light for her skin. Her hair, dress and skin matched. I liked it best last reunion. That was a good color on her.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Could you believe she didn’t know the music to Sesame Street with 3 young children??? Actually, I can believe it.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I finally got to watch my dvr’d wwhl from last night. Once again we had an orange New Jersey lady. Melissa was ORANGE. Why do they do that. “Peggy” from madmen looked so natural and real next to her. You know, Andy was looking really orange, too!

      • melthehound says:

        Do you believe she (MeGo) has NOT had a nose job and it’s make up tricks with mirrors and lighting? I say she has.

        • Laineylainey says:

          I believe that she HAS had at least one nose job. I also think her surgeon(s) did a marvelous job. It’s a good one.

          • melthehound says:

            I didn’t say it was bad but, she denies it. Makeup and lighting can mask a lot of things but it can’t change the shape of anything.

            • Laineylainey says:

              I didn’t say you said it was bad!!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! I’m gonna see if I can find before and after pics.

                • Laineylainey says:

                  I don’t know how to post a pic here. I Found some pics and made a coupla side by sides

                  • melthehound says:

                    The pictures need to be hosted somewhere.. Photobucket is a good free choice if you want. I’ll trust your verdict though, What say you?

                    • Laineylainey says:

                      I opened a photobucket acct, but can’t figger out how to upload the pics. I do declare that her schnozzola has been altered. It wasn’t bad before, but she has a really nice schnoz now.

                    • melthehound says:

                      Give me a little time and I will put something together to show everyone how to share pictures here, using Photobucket since that’s the one I refer to the most, I’ll take your word for what you are looking at in the meantime πŸ˜€

              • melthehound says:

                I have always believed that MeGo is as fake as a $3 bill. That’s not going to change. I believe she’s had work done to her face to give her that ‘J-Lo’ look she carries around. I started noticing it at last year’s reunion. As for the cheating rumors in the article, what she did before she was married is her business. What she has done after, is her and Joey’s business. One of these so called ex BF’s is going to have to show me an un-edited photo, of her with his dick in some opening of hers taken during the course of her marriage for me to believe it. Remember, This is coming from someone who cannot stand her.

                • Laineylainey says:

                  Well, it doesn’t get much realer than that! I don’t really care about where her orifices have been either. But the nose job, well I confess that’s the opening that has me intrigued right now.

  20. shamrockblonde says:

    Jeff! thanks so much for the recap, as I missed the entire thing last night – on a side note, I hope that your troubles are small and wee, and vanish from your heart – today is the twins’ Birthday – they are 14 – and as for makeup, they wear mascara and lip gloss – one of the twins tried blush with absolutely horrid results – we tried to tell her, but she went off to school with it on – this was this past April/May – when she came home it was off – she got so much grief about it in school that she washed it off in the ladies room – I haven’t seen her wear it since – my cousin told me once that when she turned 13 her parents – my Aunt and Uncle – threw a big party for her – toward the end of the party, her Dad came up to her and gave her a kiss and said “see ya, angel” – she said, “wear are you going, Dad?” and he said “oh its not me who’s going – its you – between now and about the time you turn 19 or 20, a lot of the time you are going to be someone I don’t know all that well, so I’ll see ya” – she told me she promised that she would not change, but she was never able to keep that promise – just like all of us – the difference is the way that my Aunti and Uncle handled those growing years – and the way that Jaq handled it – she is stuck at an age much younger than her true age, and no tummy tuck or neck redo is going to fix it – I wish Ashley luck – the teen roller coaster ride is terrifying – one minute its going along just fine and the next you are headed straight down at an impossible speed – the trick is to hold on tight, don’t let go and be strong – you instilled good values in your children – nurture those values, remind them of them often, and above all – listen – not just with your ears, but with your heart – the heart that holds all of your teen dramas – to them, what seems like silliness to you is for them, the worst possible thing – Jaq forgot that she is no longer a teen and lived Ashley’s age along with her – she was not the parent, just when Ashley truly needed her to be – I think it is just now sinking in that she is, in fact, a grown up and it is scaring her silly –

  21. lulu says:

    Ladies and gentlemen :). Just for the heck of it if for no charge if you could have any plastic surgery done what would u do??? After breastfeeding I want implants!!!!! ;).

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I would get my boobs lifted to where I think they should be!!!

      • lulu says:

        πŸ™‚

      • HuskerHuny says:

        I had eight hours of plastic surgery in 1992 which reattached the blood supply to my dying left foot and kept it from being amputated (long story, but a plastic surgeon did the surgery).
        I’m not a vain person and don’t really care about the lines on my face, the grey in my hair, the extra (lots of extra) weight around my mid-section or the size of my chest. If someone else cares about it, then that’s their problem. I’m very happy the way I am and if anything changes to my appearance it will be weight loss that I do on my own.

        Confidence is the best form of cosmetic surgery. Cheap and painless!

      • Nancy says:

        Lower Blepharoplasty and scar revision (Lt knee)

      • AZGirl says:

        Duct Tape????? I hear duct tape works on anything

    • AZGirl says:

      Tummy and neck. I was at the eye doctor and he put my new contacts in and I looked in the mirror ….well…..hells bells what the heck happened to my neck???? I asked for my old perscription back πŸ™‚

    • melthehound says:

      Same thing Jac had done. Both areas. How’s that? πŸ˜‰

      • AZGirl says:

        I got about 15 years on Whacky Jac. Unfortunately my husband did not steal 15 mil from a former business partner so I can’t afford the surgery. Makes you wonder when a woman who has a son diagnosed with Autism is obsessed with her looks.

    • Kat From Ohio says:

      i had a breast reduction and it was the best decision of my life. naysayers said i was too young/making a mistake. ummm my surgeon removed 5 pounds of tissue and now i have like crazy perky C cups, no sagging, minimal scarring, and SO MUCH CONFIDENCE. good by back pain.
      i am 100% for people having plastic surgery as long as they research and are informed about what’s going to happen and know when to stop.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        I don’t know if the stomach reduction surgery applies here, but here is my story with that.

        My sister-in-law was grossly overweight and decided that she needed weight reduction surgery. After going through all of the pre-testing, both medical and psychological, she had the procedure.

        She eventually lost around 80 pounds and was starting to look pretty good. But gradually, the weight came back on and in no time, she was back to where she started, if not bigger.

        Long story short, she thought that losing the weight would make her happier, but really, her problem was much deeper and not a physical issue at all. Losing the weight was great health-wise and I wish she could have kept it off. But she thought that it would be the answer to all of her sadness and it wasn’t.

        • Nancy says:

          It’s called the “Quick Fix” problem. I hope she’s in some kind of therapy.

          • HuskerHuny says:

            Yeah, her therapy was to kick my brother out of the house. Hey, she married him with eyes wide open and then kicked him to the curb when he didn’t conform to what she wanted. That was her problem – a husband who didn’t jump everytime she barked. I’m a bit prejudiced here, but my brother had (he has since passed) one of the softest and kindest hearts of anybody I know. Wow, now this is a major leap from the topic at hand! Just my way of saying that if you think changing your appearance (through cosmetic surgery) is the only thing that will make you happy, you better take stock of your life before the knife hits the spot! It might be something a lot deeper.

            • Nancy says:

              That’s a sad story. Sorry to hear about your brothers passing. (((HuskerHuny)))

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              HH-sad story!! Sounds like she doesn’t know that her problems are deeper!!
              Now me on the other Im perfect(so kidding of course!!) except my boobs aren’t where I want them to be so if I could get a free painless risk-free lift all would be delightful in Jillworld!!!!

        • chismosa says:

          Sorry for your SIL HH.

          I have a feeling Lauren Manzo is gaining weight again

    • Rebecca says:

      You can have some of mine. I vote for a reduction.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Even after seeing it last night, a tummy tuck. Or at least liposuction!!!

  22. AZGirl says:

    Caro’s blog is up. She makes a clear disclaimer that Jac does not take any pain meds or any meds whatsoever. Not even asprin…right. All the bloggers are picking up on Jac being medicated.

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      So in essence, if Wacky’s behavior is not supplemented by “medication” of any kind(Caroline wisely said nothing about alcohol right?), then that is one woman needing to be institutionalize for her own safety and for the safety of those around her.

  23. Just Wondering In Jersey says:

    Breast lift, lipo, tummy tuck, neck lift, blepharoplasty and a new head of hair LOL.

    • shamrockblonde says:

      I am terrified of needles, so the thought of having someone stick me with one – on purpose – ohh nooo – I already do that every three months to get my blood checked, and let me tell you, it does not always go well – between them trying to coax my veins to reveal themselves, and me sitting there with my eyes closed and saying the Hail Mary – out loud – the entire time…well, its different – fortunately most of the nurses know me and know the drill, but every so often a new one comes in – I really wish one of the regulars would brief them…. so no – no plastic surgery for me – I really hate those three month visits – everyone is very nice and understanding, but I still hate it –

    • chismosa says:

      I had to look up blepharo— it’s all greek!
      πŸ‘€πŸ‘€πŸ‘€

      That’s a very popular procedure

  24. I LOVE COFFEE says:

    Teenage years are not always fun for a child or parents.
    As parents we are sometimes confusing people. We tell our children to have a mind of their own and when they do …were like… what the hell.

    Teenage years…. is Gods way of helping us let go of our children

    • I LOVE COFFEE says:

      Sorry guys, I forgot to hit reply….oops

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Do you have boys or girls or both because the teen years experience is different for each sex? IMHO, the teenage years are harder on parents than on their children because we went through that period in our own lives and have the benefit of being able to analyze our own experiences.

        • I LOVE COFFEE says:

          I have one daughter and one son. I worried more with my daughter about certain things. With my son I worried about things I didn’t worry about with my daughter. I hope that made sense.

    • Sasha says:

      Coffee, I like that.

      God’s way of helping us let go.

    • Laineylainey says:

      So true!

  25. BB says:

    I don’t watch NJ, but have a personal observation about the make-up thing. I started being interested in it in the 7th grade (12 years old) and that was the norm for girls that age in 1968. Of course, I would wait until I got to school to put it on so my mom was none the wiser. Mainly some type of eye shadow (blue or green), mascara and something on the lips. But there were girls who did the whole nine yards – foundation, blush, etc. I had to wait until I was 13 to get my ears pierced.

  26. TexasTart says:

    Oh my, I’ll not get to.read all these comments before a chat blog is posted . 😦 I hate to.complaine, but just too much RH programming in 24 hrs….anyone?! I am all in for Miami!!! Just had the time to read through your recap MTH, good work, thanks for the detail. πŸ˜€ Jaq is such a waste.of.space, whether or not she explains herself. Can’t explain insanity is why.

  27. VV says:

    Jeff, once again great recap. You touched the main points including the yawner JacDaniel’s tummy tuck. Spot on on Gia’s and Marco Jr. Ashley is a con artist. I didn’t believe anything shown because like with many of them Twitter tells the real story and not long ago she was nasty as her mother to Teresa and Gia.
    It was an okay episode. I wonder ( I don’t think is possible due to cost ) if BRAVO has re edited some of these episodes. They seem like a bunch if fillers with no real story to tell or follow …

    • chismosa says:

      I agree VV with your filler theory

    • melthehound says:

      As I’ve said. I talk about what I see on the show. Not current events or anything else πŸ˜‰ I let you ladies fill us in on the rest of the story…

  28. cusi77 says:

    OMG! I just saw Jacqx Tattoo on a table…

  29. I LOVE COFFEE says:

    I’m ready for OC. Here are my predication on what will happen on tonight’s show.

    YOUR’RE LYING
    YOUR’RE LYING

    THAT’S A LIE
    THAT’S A LIE

    LIAR
    LIAR

    Maybe some
    HYPOCRITE
    FAKE
    DEADBEAT
    WOMEN LOOKS

    And some
    mean
    not nice
    douse bag
    peace
    love
    forgiveness

    Heather will say…..I….. ME…. I’m the only REAL ACTRESS who got a REAL ROLE on the REAL SHOW… MALIBU COUNTRY… BITCHES

  30. cusi77 says:

    This Season Vicki lost her brush

  31. cusi77 says:

    But se didn’t know in Mx. that.. Gretchen Lies!!!!!!

  32. cusi77 says:

    That was another Season Ladies, move on…

  33. cusi77 says:

    Anybody home?

  34. cusi77 says:

    Perhaps I was left behind… wrong stop?

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