Million Dollar Listing – Los Angeles / Real Housewives of Miami – Cast Blogs Blogged

Another New Blogger is Joining the LynnFam team.  Please give a big welcome to HydrangeaHussy!  NMD


Million Dollar Listing: Los Angeles

Episode 2 – Last Laugh

By Vilzvet

Josh Altman arrives at Josh Flagg’s office to present a lowball offer of $9 million for the Benedict Canyon Beverly Hills mansion featured in last week’s episode. Josh F. is highly insulted at this offer, feeling the land itself (approximately 1.5 acres) is worth $14 million alone, regardless of the house. Josh A. is incredulous that his offer won’t even be presented, according to Mr. Flagg. The two brokers part on acrimonius terms.

million-dollar-listing-la-season-6-gallery-episode-602-03Madison arrives at a new client’s home, a very nice half -acre home in Malibu Canyon with beautiful ocean views. His initial consultation is continually interrupted by the two young children present. Madison truly has the patience of a saint! He negotiates with owner Cynthia a good starting point to list the home of just under $1.5 million.

Josh A. meets with an attorney who represents a foreign client who just so happens to want to purchase a unique property near the Beverly Hills hotel. Money will be no object, but Josh advises the attorney he will need to see proof of funds before he will work with this unknown client. Josh is excited, as the highest priced home he has ever sold is $17 million…could this potential sale be the high watermark of his career so far?  Josh continues to dig to find the perfect property for the unknown wealthy investor that would be in the range of at least $20 million.

Josh F. and his boyfriend Colton have a purchased a flip property. Colton will do the redecorating and Josh of course will handle the sale. Josh feels that this project could keep Colton’s mind off the idea of the two of them adopting a child, for the time being at least.

Madison’s new Malibu listing has become a hot one; with the new photos it has attracted many brokers. He looks forward to a quick sale of this lovely property.

million-dollar-listing-la-season-6-gallery-episode-602-15Josh A. has received an offer of $13.5 million for the Beverly Hills estate. He presents the offer to his client David, but David is disappointed as he feels that this is too far removed from their initial listing price of just under $15 million. They agree to be patient and hope a higher offer is made before they attempt to counteroffer.

million-dollar-listing-la-season-6-gallery-episode-602-16Madison has found love again! He is giddy with happiness with his new beau, but hopes he is not moving too quickly. It is lovely to be vulnerable again, Madison admits.

million-dollar-listing-la-season-6-gallery-episode-602-24Josh A. has found his blockbuster of a property of a home to show his unknown client: a stunning $58,000,000 home owned by Yolanda Foster’s ex-husband Mohamad Hadid. It is truly exquisite. Josh can’t even imagine what the sales commission would be in his pocket on this home. The attorney/representative is impressed, but is possibly looking for something with an even better view. Can’t win ‘em all, Josh.

Josh F. visits his adorable grandmother, who asks how things are going with the Beverly Hills estate sale.  She advises her grandson to lay low, and not pressure the client.

Madison has two offers for the Malibu property to show his client:  one for $1.1 million and the other for $1.4 million. Their strategy will be to counteroffer  BOTH offers at $1,450,000.00.

Josh A. has found yet another Beverly Hills area in Beverly Park home to show his Unknown Client. Hey, look here, it is the home of the late movie producer Richard Zanuck. Showing the home is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member and Richard’s daughter-i- law Marisa Zanuck. We had seen this four-acre home briefly in a BH episode, and boy it is beautiful; in fact, I shall be rewatching this episode to get a second look at all the details.  The handpainted tiles in the kitchen were to die for; there is a 4,000 lb. crystal chandelier, and Arnold Schwarzenegger designed the gym. The landscaping alone cost $7 million. Unfortunately, the home has only ONE huge bedroom! Marisa advises the home is being listed for $26 million. The attorney/rep of Unknown Client is concerned about the lack of bedrooms but agrees to think about it.

Madison has an accepted offer for the Malibu Canyon property, but the agent Tim does not want to wait for the other agent to respond to the counteroffer; he feels the deal is done. Madison does not receive a second response within a reasonable time, so a deal is struck for $1,450,000.00.

Josh A. is waiting for a counteroffer from Josh F. on the Beverly Hills property of an initial offer of $9 million. Josh F. says their counteroffer will be full price and nothing less. Josh A. can go up to $10 million, take it or leave it. Josh F. tries to convince his counterpart that his client has no problem waiting for a full price offer; in fact, he already has another offer of $13.5 million that far surpasses Josh A’s. Josh A. is convinced that Mr. Flagg will ultimately fail his client and then he will step in and take the listing. Time will tell!


Miami Blogs Blogged

By HydrangeaHussy

First off, thanks to NoMoreDrama for the opportunity to blog the blogs this season & to BehindBleuEyes for the great recap!  I didn’t want to recap the entirety of the blogs since all of the ladies wrote this week & anyone who wants the whole thing can just go to Bravo’s site.  This was getting long enough with just my thoughts.  Now, on to the blogs…

Lea Black

Lea jumps right in, addressing the comments made by Alexia in her talking head.  We all know Alexia’s son Peter got into some trouble for assaulting a homeless man.  Alexia said that Lea stated Peter should go to jail for 25 years, though Lea denies making that statement.  Lea goes on to say that Alexia knew that Lea had never made negative comments but repeated them anyway.  In this case, I’m inclined to believe Lea since she does run a charity that helps keep troubled kids out of prison.  I did Google the terms cited by Lea & found the article she referred to.  There were no negative comments made about Peter or Alexia.

Now for what I really wanted to know – what happened between Lea & Adriana?  They were BFF’s for the first two seasons!  Lea believes that the rift began when Adriana didn’t think she had her back during the fight with Joanna.  To which, Lea says “A true friend has the guts to tell you when you’re wrong, and Adriana, you were wrong.”  I could not agree more!  It’s just idiotic to be mad at someone because they didn’t agree that your physically assaulting someone was ok.  Lea says that Adriana has now joined “the hater club.”

Lea didn’t attend the luncheon at Lisa’s.  Her excuse is that her son was on spring break & that she didn’t want to air all of her dirty laundry in front of everyone.  The spring break thing seems like a flimsy excuse, but I can agree that hashing something out in front of a group may not be the best idea.  Especially since we all know would be taking sides & issuing opinions, as Lea pointed out.

Based on her “stay tuned”, I’m assuming that we’re in for a one-on-one confrontation.  Maybe we’ll get a little more clarity on Adriana’s perspective then.  Lea takes the high road regarding Frederic’s “mean-spirited” impersonation of her by simply thinking him for mentioning her handbag line.  She closes out with a shout-out to her designers and to “Expect drama, lies, betrayal, turmoil, raw emotions, laughs, giggles, fun, outrage, fake outrage, fake friendships, and much more.”  “You can count on me to be straight with you.”  I may not agree with Lea all of the time & she can get on my nerves, but she does seem to always be straightforward.

Adriana de Moura

Let me begin with a disclaimer: Adriana drives me crazy!  I understand the need to bring the drama so she’ll get asked back for another season, but it’s just too much for me.  Her over-reactions to everything seem fake.

Adriana begins by attempting to explain the married/not married controversy.  Of course we now know this is just one of the many versions she’s told since the news came out.  She & Frederic got a marriage license “many years ago.”  They had been dating for just a few weeks.  Frederic called it off a few weeks before the ceremony because her son wasn’t ready for her to re-marry.   I seem to remember her stating, in season 1, that he had proposed after a few weeks but that she wasn’t ready to be married again.  There was no mention of a planned ceremony or the idea that it was her son who wasn’t ready.  Her son seemed comfortable with Frederic and their relationship.

She goes on to explain that they both had mixed feelings about the first wedding and that she “still had many issues to work out within me due to failed relationships in the past.”  The failed relationships, namely her first marriage while ended badly, are the reason she has always given for not marrying Frederic.  She then says that she didn’t feel married because they didn’t have a ceremony.  I can understand not feeling completely married because you didn’t have a ceremony, especially in certain cultures or religions.  But if you sign the marriage license, you are legally married.  Why not just explain that from the beginning?  She states that she didn’t hurt anyone, but it certainly hurt her credibility with me.  How are we supposed to believe what Adriana says about anything when her story is constantly changing?

She doesn’t really address the feud with Lea, which was kind of disappointing.  Not that I would believe her side, but it would have been nice to hear.  To completely disregard it makes me wonder if her side has no merit and that she’s just blown a disagreement out of proportion.

Alexia Echevarria

“I’m so excited to be back as a full-time Housewife and be able to share my miracle with you.”  I think that Alexia did the right thing last season & took time off to care for her son.  Last season she addressed Frankie’s injuries & it’s great to hear about his improvements.  He truly is a miracle & I think that his condition has made Alexia realize how much of the drama isn’t worth her time.  As she says, “your life can change in one second.”

Finally, she gets into the Adriana scandals/issues.  Is anyone else noticing that all of the drama surrounds Adriana so far?  She states that Adriana informed her of the marriage license after it was released in the press.  Apparently Adriana wasn’t telling anyone until she was forced to.  I agree with Alexia that Lisa brought it up at the bridal show because she wanted Lea & Adriana to work it out.  Though she doesn’t think either one wants to.  “Adriana explains herself very well. She is sincere and convincing, at least to me!”  Adriana’s explanations sound like a lot of backpedaling & excuses to me, not at all convincing.  I think Alexia has aligned herself with the anti-Lea group & is just sticking with them.  As for Lisa’s luncheon, Alexia took Lea’s absence as her opposition to making up with Adriana.  I’m not so sure about that.  If I were Lea, I’d want to address Adriana one-on-one, without other potential pot-stirrers around.

Joanna Krupa

Though Joanna appears to play nice with Adriana in front of the cameras, she takes this opportunity to let us know that she isn’t over last season.  She’ll be around Adriana because she has to.  “Life’s too short to hate and be jealous or envy others, but I guess not everyone follows that motto…”  If she’s insinuating that Adriana is jealous of her, I think she’s off base.  Adriana thinks way too much of herself to be jealous of anyone.  “In a perfect world I would never see her again, as I don’t need people around me that talk behind my back and try to hurt me intentionally.”  It seems like Joanna has a tendency to push away the people who are true friends to her, like Lisa & Marta.

Joanna confirms that Lea, supposedly Adriana’s BFF, was not aware of the marriage license.  Joanna feels the right to make a judgment on Adriana’s lies because of comments that Adriana made about Joanna & Romain’s relationship issues.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I think that tit-for-tat attitude (most recently exhibited in the OC) is childish.  But, I think Joanna has the right to point out a fact – that Adriana said she wasn’t married when she actually was.  Joanna points out what has really been bothering me about the whole marriage license scandal, “She has played the victim for years to Lea as if she is this poor struggling single mother when this whole time she was married.”

In typical Joanna style, she goes on about an issue that doesn’t really involve her.  But, I guess that’s part of the housewife job – to give opinions on what your castmates are saying & doing.  While I may not always agree with how outspoken Joanna is (I’m a southerner girl & we’re a little more laid-back), I have to agree with her points on this one. Adriana led Lea to believe that she wasn’t married and gave several different excuses once she got busted.   She also clears up that Lea felt both women were in the wrong after their altercation last season and that Lea didn’t take anyone’s side.

Marysol Patton

Marysol opens by acknowledging her status as a ‘friend” of the Housewives.  It’s obvious that Marysol has been through a lot this year & she lets us in on exactly what happened with her mother, Elsa.  A few days before filming, Elsa was found unconscious.  She was rushed to the hospital.  “As you can imagine, this has been the most painful crisis I have had to live through in my life.”  Having seen how close their relationship is, I cannot even imagine the terror that Marysol felt.

Upon arrival at the hospital, doctors informed Marysol that Elsa needed immediate brain surgery.  She turned to Alexia for advice since Alexia had been through a similar situation.  They proceeded with the surgery & Elsa had months of recovery ahead.  “If I had not had my company to run and the filming of this season, I would have fallen into a horrible depression caused by the personal tragedy that occurred in my family this spring.”  It’s amazing to me that Marysol can remain so positive and see the blessing that she still has, despite being in such a painful & trying time.

She only touches on the Adriana marriage scandal.  She presents the Latin culture’s view on marriage – that you aren’t “truly” married until you have a ceremony.  Again, while I understand that, I still don’t think it excuses Adriana’s lie by omission.  It doesn’t surprise me that Marysol chose not to comment on the Lea/Adriana feud.  She seems to want to keep out of the drama & has had her own issues with Lea.  She could have taken the opportunity to trash-talk Lea, but she took the high road & stayed silent, very classy!

Lisa Hochstein

In my opinion, saving the best for last!  I loved Lisa last season!  She was fun, sexy & didn’t get too caught up in the drama!  Hopefully that will last.

As to the end of Lea & Adriana’s friendship, “there is a whole list of reasons why it ended. Egos, betrayal, and new alliances with the other’s enemies to name a few. I personally think it’s much deeper than we see in this first episode and has a much longer history than we may know.”  I agree.  These women have been friends for a long time.  Lea supported Adriana during the end of her first marriage.  I can’t see the fight between Adriana & Joanna causing this big of a rift.  Again, the whole ‘you didn’t take my side when I was wrong so I’m going to be mad at you’ seems a little childish.

You could almost see the tension between Lisa & the other ladies at the bridal fair.  I love that Lisa makes no apologies for addressing the “elephant in the room,” aka Adriana’s marriage.  She points out what Adriana also did, that there is a difference between a marriage license & the ceremony.  She accuses Ana of talking down to her.  Ana did make a ‘just try to keep up’ comment, among others.  “If I needed her ‘help,’ I would have asked, but I only ask for advice from people who are winning in life”  Haha!  Can’t say I blame Lisa for feeling put down.  Lisa may not be a lawyer, but she seems like a pretty smart lady who doesn’t need helping keeping up with a conversation.

Anyway, Lisa claims that she knew Adriana would appear at any moment, so she wasn’t talking behind Adriana’s back.  That fact was common knowledge at the time, Adriana was on her way, and I don’t honestly think Lisa meant any harm.  She immediately addressed the situation as soon as Adriana arrived.  I believe her when she says that she “simply wanted to get it out into the open while giving [Adriana] a fair opportunity to tell her side of the story.”

Lisa then addresses the change in friendship between herself & Joanna.  Last season they seemed to be two peas in a pod.  However, Lisa points out that she often feels their friendship is one-sided.  In my opinion, Lisa has been a very good friend to Joanna, for example hosting Joanna’s PETA shoot.  “When something or someone is important to you, you make the time and effort.”  I know how it can feel when you’re always there for someone but they don’t seem to have time to listen to your problems.  I hope that Lisa can express these feelings to Joanna in the future & that Joanna will be receptive.

Lisa pulls a quote from the Jill handbook, calling herself a “connector,” though I don’t think she means it in the egotistical, I-know-everyone-worth-knowing way that Jill did.  I think that Lisa just wants everyone to get along & will do whatever she can to make that happen.  “It’s also not enjoyable have to listen to every side repeatedly.”  I can’t imagine how old it must get to hear everyone’s side of every story over & over.  I like the idea of getting everyone together to hash things out at once, though she might be a bit over-optimistic when it comes to Lea & Adriana.  She notes that all of their silly fights become insignificant when you compare them to what Marysol is going through with Elsa.


About Veena (NMD)

Just a housewife ... who loves this place .... and loves to write ... You can reach me through this email: Lynn's Place is in tribute to Housewives blogger Lynn Hudson, who passed away in August of 2012.
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312 Responses to Million Dollar Listing – Los Angeles / Real Housewives of Miami – Cast Blogs Blogged

  1. vilzvet says:

    Aww, how nice that Bravo is rerunning first season episodes of Queer Eye. That must be 10 years ago! I always enjoyed that series and the transformations! P.S. Welcome HydrangeaHussy!

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I always though Queer Eye really tore down a lot of misconceptions of gay men to the straight world. I’m a big supporter of gay rights so it was so great to see these guys each doing their thing with such humor showing the world that they are no different than anyone else. This was a trailblazing show that started to changed opinions of a lot of people. Yay!

    • Sasha says:

      Welcome Hydra!

      I used to love Queer Eye with Carson being my favorite. Now all I need is to catch the first few seasons of Trading Spaces and I’m good.

  2. Powell says:

    Good morning vilzvet and everyone. Lots of different weather conditions around the country. I hope everyone is ok. Welcome HydrangeaHussy. I love your name. It gave me a little giggle.
    Now off to read vilzvet and HydrangeaHussy’s blogs. Have a great day. Oh and happy Friday eve.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Good afternoon, it’s my day off and I am lollygagging. Thanks vilzvet and hydrangea! Can’t wait to read your blogs! Well, I’m off to make a delicious omelette. Will be back soon to join the snark.

  3. Powell says:

    Vilzvet boy oh boy did MDLLA and RHOB cross over last night. Josh Altman works w/Mauricio right? It’s a wonder we didn’t see him. I have a feeling that Josh A(I can’t stand his arrogance) is going to end up getting Josh Fs listing for the unknown millionaire & Josh F will rub it in his face. I’ll have to watch this weekend. Thks for the blog.

    • chismosa says:

      Powell I haven’t watched MDL yet but I can’t stand Josh A

      Flagg was on Property Envy so I watched it to see him.
      Of course, Jeff got every price correct ! Lol

      Flagg has a nice personality I always liked him

  4. ladebra says:

    Welcome HydrangeaHussy and BehindBleuEyes. Nice to see new bloggers!

    Couldn’t resist this one. I am woman, hear me roar!

  5. BB says:

    Welcome HydrangeaHussy! I don’t watch Miami; thanks for blogging the blogs though. Thanks also Vilzvet for the MDL recap. Hope everyone has a good Thursday. I’m headed for the OBX after work . Woo Hoo! Although I don’t consider watching Jack a hard job; I call him Smoochie Man.

  6. Penguin Girl says:

    Good Morning everyone!!!!! I am a long long time reader but first time poster…. I truly enjoy reading everyone’s comment on this site… I want to start coming out of my shadow and start posting on here.. So on to Miami…. I personally like Miami but I totally agree that Adriana is a little to much.
    Switching to OC…I read on another site that Ryan has been arrested on domestic violence and I think his ex wife or an ex girlfriend has a restraining order against him… Hummmmm

    • melthehound says:

      Welcome to the commenting side 😀

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Welcome PGirl-glad you came out of the shadows!!

    • BB says:

      Welcome Penguin Girl!

    • Powell says:

      Howdy Penguin Girl. Welcome to the ride. 🙂

    • lizzle says:

      Welcome Penguin Girl! I totally agree about Adriana. The scene with her and her husband at the boat where she blamed him and her son for not getting married was so fake! The only person she doesn’t blame… is herself. Uggghhh! And if her son didn’t want them to be married, then why not get it annulled. At any point, Adriana could have divorced her husband and gotten spousal support. Instead, she let Lea buy all her crappy art. Take a little responsibility, Adriana! BTW… when Texas Tart did the twitter follower count for all the franchises… Adriana had almost 100,000 more followers than any other Miami housewife. I call BS on her being the most popular Miami housewife. I understand trying to create storylines and acting a little, but she is just so bad at it!

      • chismosa says:

        Lizzle I honestly think she is a legitimate art person and so has art followers.
        Remember last season when nostrils beat her to the tweet. I found that disgusting. Adriana is an EDUCATED art professional and that was one of her idols. She was right to say nostrils trivialized it.

        I think that’s why she may have more followers. Jmho

        • TexasTart says:

          LOL at “nostrils”

          Lizzle, I forgot to put Joanna in that Twitter list (she was the only housewife I forgot, if that tells ya how important she is to me, lol). I came back and updated it to say that Joanna Krupa had 481k followers. It’s true that Adriana had 184 and she was 100-150k more than all the other ladies…which surprised me too! I’m sure Joanna has more followers, unrelated to being a housewive but a ho. Allegedly! 😛

          • chismosa says:

            HA! No Jo-Ho also was on DWTS, Playboy, tons of little things…. so people “knew” her before she got on this show.
            Adrianna is right though— she said it on the reunion, if she didn’t have Romain- she’d have NO reason for being in Miami, i.e. the SHOW itself. Romain is in Miami.

            I’m sorry, Romain is getting some on the side. He has to be.

    • TexasTart says:

      Welcome Penguin Girl. Adriana is a wee bit too desperate for attention!

    • I read that about Ryan too. I can’t say that I’m totally surprised based on his actions at the finale party. It was really disturbing to watch.

    • Welcome, PG – are you, by chance, a hockey fan? 🙂

    • Sasha says:

      Penquin, I think I may have read something about Ryan the other day. I skimmed over it but I remember reading about a restraining order and that he pursued Briana.

      He really should have gone the apology and I’ll get counseling route.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Hi penguin girl….welcome!!!!

  7. Rebecca says:

    Thanks for the recaps, ladies.

    I can’t stand Josh Altman. He brings nothing but a bad attitude to the show. The man never, EVER gets full asking price for his clients. He’s a used car salesman. He should go into business with Slade and Brooks.

    • Powell says:

      I can’t stand him either Rebecca. It’s always full on attitude when he sees or had a deal w/Josh F or Madison.

    • Ugh, I stopped watching the show b/c of Altman. He’s obnoxious!

      • Rebecca says:

        But there’s still Edith!! Love her… and love Josh for loving and LISTENING to his grandmother.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Why do I like these people that so many of you lovely people here cannot stand? I LIKE Josh Altman. Weird, huh? I like Lea Black. I don’t know if its because she reminds me of someone I used to watch on AS THE WORLD TURNS. I can’t remember the lady’s name. She was Lily’s adoptive mother.

  8. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! MDL was great. Altman a tool. Flagg is great. Madison is looking much better this season. Still too thin. Love Edith. Way to much TMI on the gay couples. It does not bring anything to the show. No gym. Need to get into the office early.

    • AZGirl says:

      Oops. Welcome Hydrangeahussy. Thank you for your recap!

    • not THAT Jill says:

      AZ-we are in complete agreement on MDL!! I love JoshF and I want to smack JoshA in the head-just to mess up his stupid hair-which Flagg insinuated is a wig!! I love Madison but his voice gets kind of whiney and then he loses me!!
      Welcome HydrangeaH-great job on the blog blogging!!
      Vilzvet-great recap!!!!

      • Powell says:

        JNNTJ I would love to see someone smack Altman upside the head. I like Madison too but I agree. The whiney voice has got to go.

    • lizzle says:

      I agree AZGirl! I actually like Josh Flagg’s relationship storyline… getting Colton to design a flip house so he will forget about having a baby… lol… that sounds like Scandal (if anyone watches that show). I actually could care less about Altman’s upcoming marriage proposal. I am over that storyline on Bravo.

      • Powell says:

        I think Heather will regret marrying Altman if that does happen. I can see his attitude creeping into their relationship if he doesn’t change. Could you imagine getting a divorce from him? He’s too into $$$$ & I feel would fight tooth and nail to hold on to his money.

    • Powell says:

      AZGirl I think GM Edith is just at the “hey I’m old and can say whatever I want” time of her life. She does love Josh. I think he helps her stay young. She cracked me up last week when she told him she didn’t like his jacket.

      You have a great day in the office.

    • Sasha says:

      I hope there’s a Josh and Edith for each show.

  9. melthehound says:

    HydrangeaHussy, welcome and thanks for pitching in with the blogging. I hope you don’t mind but just like I can’t bring myself to call anyone a Tart, I can’t bring myself to call anyone a hussy either so, from me, your name is HydrangeaH 🙂

    • Powell says:

      Always the gentleman MTH. 🙂

    • Lol, thanks! I’m a southern girl & my group of friends call ourselves the Hydrangea Hussies, kind of like the Sweet Potato Queens.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        Welcome HydrangeaHussy. From one HH to another!

      • melthehound says:

        Cool.. I have learned in the past here that it’s one thing for women to say things, quite another for me to say them.

        Nice flowers in your pic. I use to have a large Hydrangea bush in the back yard. They would come out white and turn pink. A couple years ago, they never made it to the pink stage. Last year, it began to leaf and then one day, they all dried up and fell off. It was about 6 feet in diameter and 6 feet tall. Now it is just a twig waiting to be cut down 😦

  10. Penguin Girl says:

    Totally agree AzGirl

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Last night’s DD was so great! I laughed as hard as I cried especially at the wedding vows. Si certainly brought the humor big time. This show is just heads and shoulders waaaaaaaaaaaaaay above anything else on TV. Uplifting, funny and unforced. Take a lesson Bravo!

      • chismosa says:

        They all are getting a huge raise
        I don’t watch but I heard they were not nice to fans at some event so I’m iffy on them.
        The sons are hot though

        • melthehound says:

          That’s what you Heard.. Where?

        • chismosa says:

          I swear. Honest
          If I can find a link I will but I’m heading out …

          Plus it could have been a “fluke” one time thing. Who knows.
          I’ll post when I can get on my PC

  11. TexasTart says:

    Welcome HydrangeaHussy! I enjoy Miami, but not Bravo’s website, so I sure do appreciate a breakdown of their blogs. Taking a wild guess that Adriana and Lea will have to fabricate some new lies for their dramatic ways. Looking forward to reading when I get a break from work.

    Also looking forward to vilzvet’s blog!
    Have a good day, everyone! 😀

  12. lizzle says:

    I loved the blog today! Thanks Vilzvet and HydrangeaHussy

  13. Powell says:

    Did anyone catch HLN’s After Dark show last night? I didn’t watch it all. I was into The Bridge which is getting juicy. But AD was all above Tre & Joe. The question was “Has the RHONJ ruined Teresa’s life?”. They had a producer of NJ on. I don’t think he’s a current producer. He said no the show hasn’t ruined Tre’s life. The show has helped her get many opportunities. He even tried to say the show is “real”. Yeah right. Jennifer Donnellyn was on and said how the scenes are put together and are not what they are shown to be & Tre is doing fine. That’s all I saw.

  14. Thank you new bloggers! L appreciate your styles and love the clean, concise and good points raised to ponder!
    Josh A is a NYC transplant – he sticks out like a sore thumb in the LA culture. He is everything everyone here says about him – to me he is a typical hustling snake oil salesman, who desperatedly needs his arrogant swagger to feel safe. His relationship with Heather just seems so contrived and superficial and I have no interest in a proposal or wedding storyline with them.
    Oh Miami! Adriana has lying in her DNA – Lea is wise to want a one on one with her because this cast botches second hand information like no other franchise (well maybe OC). And I am going on record saying that I physically hurt when I see Lisa’s boobs – ouchie, ouchie, ouchie, no one’s skin was ever meant to be stretched to that extent. But I can definitely see past her boobs to know she has a good and fair heart.

    • Powell says:

      WCW I love Lisa but her boobs definitely look like they hurt to me. Ouchie is right.

    • AZGirl says:

      Last season I remember Lisa wearing a dress and her top barely covered the side of her boobs. You could see her veins through the skin. It is really kind of gross.

    • vilzvet says:

      Thanks windy! Love your take on Josh A. He really should be in NY and go against Fredrik!

    • nyc mama says:

      Hey everyone. Hope you are all well. Great blogs! I got caught up on Miami*another HW show I won’t watch. Reading about is much more enjoyable then spending an hour watching it so thanks for taking the hit for me.

      I popped back in to Bravo for the first time in a long time to watch MDLLA because I love the homes and Josh F, Edith and even Madison. Josh A not so muchl He isn’t a NY’er thankfully, we have enough idiots to deal with (think Princesses) He is from Massachussets, born and raised and his connection to NY is that he went to Syracuse U so if he spent time in the city it wasn’t much.

  15. Rebecca says:

    Let me take a minute to explaion my thoughts on Juicy here….

    He was brought over to this country as a toddler, correct? He had no say in his citizenship. Usually, one Italian would come over and work for five years to earn his green card. Then he can go back and bring his family over. Then when the patriarch decides he wants American citzenship, he decided whether or not to renounce his and his family members’ Italian citizenship.

    Juicy probably grew up not knowing one way or the other because it never mattered (back then). His parents probably got him a social security card. So how would he know one way or the other? He can bring his birth certificate and social security card to get a passport for either country and they would accept it because we didn’t worry about advanced screening back in the 1970s, when he surely got his passport.

    It’s really not a big scandal. It’s an oversight. Calm down, people.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      It’s not a scandal…it’s stupidity. I guess that’s his best defense!

    • US citizenship usually requires a test for those not born here. Some countries award you citizenship if your parents were born there but live somewhere else. The only reason I can think of for Juicy’s status to be brought up now is to sensationalize this whole big media fueled real life legal situation. Will he be deported (gasp) or not (da da da daaaaa).

    • Orson says:

      I think he should have noticed if the birth certificate was issued in Italy or the USA. Don’t you need either a US issued birth certificate or naturalization papers to get a US passport?

      • not THAT Jill says:

        What about voting? Did he just never even try to vote?

      • Rebecca says:

        He probably never got his own passport. If his parents made the travel arrangements when he was a child, they took care of that for him. All he would have to do is take a new photo to renew as he got older.

        • not THAT Jill says:

          Renewing a passport when you are not a citizen is not just taking a picture-after 9/11 renewing a passport when you ARE a citizen wasn’t as easy as taking a new picture. Joe is either a complete moron or a liar..which ever works in his defense better.

    • VV says:

      I think he thought he had the same rights as a citizen for the reasons you stated above. Brougt up when he was small blah blahblah. I remember reading an article when talks anout imigration reform were going on in which many legal residents thought they had the same rights as citizens do. I’ve been looking for it but can’t find. It is quite possible, that he thought he was okay because he’s been living here all his life without knowing or understanding his status and his right as a resident. We know he is uneducated.

    • TexasTart says:

      Okay, but help me out here anyone…how does whether or not he is a citizen affect the charges at hand?
      How in the world would this change anything that relates to charges of not filing taxes. Do you have to be a US citizen to owe taxes? And if so, then why would he claim he thought he was one?! Charges of fraud, I would think should apply whether or not you are a citizen of the US. I just don’t get the importance and think it’s ridiculous!

      Maybe this has to do with the possible deportation? Is the idea here that Joe didn’t know he wasn’t a US citizen to be used as a ‘defense’ against being deported?!

      • not THAT Jill says:

        Maybe Tartsy-I heard “deportation” after the first court visit but I don’t remember where it all started

      • Texas Tart.. maybe this will help with the tax thing,,

        also…. committing a crime and being convicted can/will result in being deported back to your Country of origin AFTER you serve your time here in America…. happens all the time here in Fla…

        hugs and peace

        • TexasTart says:

          Thank you for that information! I do understand that he can be deported and why, but I don’t get the relevance of whether or not he understood his citizenship status. omments, I still don’t see the relevance of whether or not he knew.

          • TexasTart says:

            oops, couldn’t see all my text, when I hit post, sorry for last inadvertant sentence.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I can’t understand him not being aware of his citizenship status. Even if screening for U.S. passports wasn’t diligent back in the 1970’s…as passport does not last forever…and an expired passport is not concerted to be proof of citizenship. So there is no way, I can imagine him being in possession of a U.S. passport….and we KNOW that he left the U.S. (we saw them go to Italy and to Punta Cana) and re-entered where a U.S. passport or a foreign passport and a resident alien card would have been required.

            Also, legal residents are required to pay taxes, not doing so has even more ramifications for a non citizen…as it can make you illegible for citizenship and in some cases revoke your legal resident status.

        • shamrockblonde says:

          both of my parents were born in Ireland – I am the first to be born here in the States – as a result, I have dual citizenship both here and in Ireland –

      • iceNfire says:

        My husband was born and raised in Thailand. He came to the U.S. on a student visa, got a green card so he could work, and bought a house to gain Residency status. To renew his passport he had to go to the Thai Embassy in L.A, He doesn’t have his birth certificate in this country (never needed it) and he became a U.S. citizen a couple years ago after passing a test and pledging allegiance to this country in a ceremony. Just Sayin’ 😛

      • Rebecca says:

        If he is a resident, but not a citizen, he needs to file different tax forms than we do, and he would need foreign buying financing to buy property and he would need to sign a disclosure of his citizenship. There’s a lot not adding up here.

        • iceNfire says:

          Hi Rebecca – Before my husband became a citizen he filed the same tax forms as me, we file jointly. The down payment for his 1st house (before we were married) came from his family in Thailand but the mortgage was held by good old B of A. After we were married and bought other properties, citizenship was never a factor. The only thing that ever matters is our credit score…atleast that how it works in California

    • T-Rex says:

      Okay my two cents. My mother is not born in the US she married my dad when she was 19 years old. First off, Juicy knew full well he was not a citizen when he applied for his marriage license, , driver’s license, any government license,non-citizens have to produce their ” resident alien” information(it’s what they call it). In addition you are also to update that information, by US law yearly, with witness signatures. It’s NOT an oversight!!!!

  16. Powell says:

    HydrangeaHussy I have a feeling we will get another story from Adriana on her marriage/non-marriage. No matter how many different ways she tries to explain herself how she handled it was wrong and I feel she handled it the way she dud to get a wedding spinoff. Bravo is its own Bridezillas. Enough weddings already. I suppose we will see Kandi & Todd’s on ATL. I will be happy just to see them go on a honeymoon.
    I’ve never liked Joanna. Issues always turn around to being all about her. I’m glad Marta is gone to live her life. Thks for the blog.

    • chismosa says:

      Kandi and Todd — what a snoooooooozefest!!! 💤💤💤

      I’d watch an Adrianna spinoff just to see her spectacular dress and her elegant in-laws.

    • Mene Seela says:

      Oh Powell ewwww…. NO NO NO

      “Kandi & Todd’s on ATL. I will be happy just to see them go on a honeymoon.”

      I’m sorry that just brings Kandi Koated Nights to mind. TMI! LOL.

  17. Powell says:

    I’m watching Harlem Nights w/Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Red Foxx, Della Reese. LOL. Eddie Murphy’s character shoots Della Reese’s character’s pinky toe. Thus movie cracks me up.

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  19. Orson says:

    I’m confused about this “Is Adriana married or not?” thing. Did they:

    1. Get a marriage license and then decide not to go through with getting married, which would make them not married to each other?
    B. Get a marriage license and have a civil wedding, which doesn’t necessarily mean they’re legally married, as I’ll explain next.
    III. Do everything in step B AND mail in the signed copy of the marriage license to the county clerk or clerk of courts with a valid check made out for the proper amount? Because even if you have a wedding as elaborate as Prince William and Kate’s, until the clerk stamps “FILED” on his copy of the weding license, they’re not legally married.
    4th. Do everything in step III but not have a church wedding, in which case they are legally married?

    I’m also sort of wondering why it’s such an issue too. But I guess in RH world, it is.

    • Rebecca says:

      She never gave a straight answer on the show, so we may never know.

    • Orson…they actually got married by the CLERK at the Courthouse…

      I also checked with NUMEROUS Clerks of Courts , and even if her name was misspelled , the marriage is still legal…So Adrianna can spin all she wants till she’s dizzy… she got caught in a lie and it’s coming back to haunt her and Fredric… I just don’t get how these chicks think by their white lies we will fall for their BS stories……lol

      off to cut my hair….. whoo hoooooo

      hugs and peace

      • Rebecca says:

        She needs to own up and once and for all say, she and Fredric are legally married, but she didn’t want her sone to know until they had a proper church wedding. End of story.

      • TexasTart says:

        Thank you Miss Diva! I think Adriana will spin until she falls flat on her face and can’t get up.

        • iceNfire says:

          My husband and I have never agreed on our wedding date. He says its the 20th, the day we signed the papers at the court house. I say it’s the 21st, the day of the ceremony…
          Again, Just Sayin’ 😛

      • Powell says:

        Me neither. LOL I’m imagining her spinning&spinning in a circle. Spinning til she’s dizzy.

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      Adriana is legally married whether she wants to admit it or not. Adriana doesn’t “feel” married after all those years and NEEDS a ceremony to make her feel “married”. IMHO, she is super shady and never gives a straight forward truthful answer to many questions pertaining to her life before coming to Miami.

    • T-Rex says:

      They obtained a marriage license, they then submitted a fully “notarized” copy of the marriage license to the state of Florida, under the laws of the State of Florida they were married. In Florida I can marry any one as I am a notary. Now that being said the couple would then have to submit the copies to the state for recording purposes.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Bravo showed “Married by the Clerk” so I guess they are going to let her hang herself with her lies.

  20. Powell says:

    Who watched The Little Couple Tuesday night? It was so good. Will is such a cute baby. Jen has her hands full w/2 little boys. Bill is in heaven w/his son. Will learned quite a bit in his few weeks w/his new parents. This will be a great season. Can’t wait to see them bring Zoe home. I’ve already seen the whole family on TMZ.

    • Lulu says:

      I know what u mean!!!!!!! Will is the cutest!!! I was just thinking how Jen and Bill are very lucky. I wish someone filmed me when I first saw my sons!! 🙂

  21. I was just reading on another site that today marks two years from the day when Russell Armstrong died. Sad memory – hope that his children are doing well and that he is in a better place.

  22. Orson says:

    Welcome and thanks to our new bloggers and welcome to our new delurkers. I lurked here for a while before I had the courage to speak up too.

    And the weekly Thursday night chat is tonight at 9 pm Eastern. And since Stars has company and might not appear, there might not be a cussin’ jar. Here’s the link:

  23. shamrockblonde says:

    I love Josh Flagg and his Grandmother – they are so very sweet with each other – that property close to the Beverly Hills Hotel – I think Josh loves it, and it makes him very protective of it – he hated hearing any mention of tearing it down – and I don’t blame him – as for Josh Altman – what is with that boy? does he think he’s some mob guy moving in on everyone’s territory? he sounds like a thug and thinks his suits make him legit – they don’t – with all that arrogance, its amazing he can get his head through any doorway – where’s Gibbs when you need him cuz that guy needs a headslap sooooo badly…………that girl Heather – what is wrong with her? her professional reputation will be affected because of her association with this guy – she seemed so level headed… for Madison – he’s okay, but he gets on my nerves sometimes –

  24. AZGirl says:

    I thought some of the large homes Josh A was showing to the investor were ugly. Zanuck’s was nice but only one bedroom? Mohamad’s is just over the top. Staircase is ugly and so is that ridiculous Moroccan room that Kyle did her splits in.

    • Rebecca says:

      I think its brilliant thatthe Zanucks had a one-bedroom. No annoying houseguests!

      • iceNfire says:

        Yes – Someone else, some celeb did the same thing with a beautiful house in Napa b/c they didn’t want houseguests…maybe it was on Life Styles of the Rich and Famous – idk

        • iceNfire…. I went to a clients house to talk about a remodel… this place was HUGE…. the guest bedrooms ( 2 ) were 9 x 12..min code.. closets 3 x 2…. said he did it on purpose so people would be uncomfortable staying at his place… even the kid lived in the pool cabana…1200 sq ft…. it was the guy who started the 800 or 888 for porn talk… his shower in the MBath was 8×16…. and the nicest guy ever !!!! the dining/living rm was separated with this HUGE HUGE salt water fish tank….. all custom and gorgeous….. and he wasn’t stingy with his $$$$… supported a lot of kids groups here…. just a super nice guy……..
          always nice to do biz with people who have money but also have morals and values……

          hugs and peace

          • iceNfire says:

            Hi Diva – At first I thought I was misreading, sounded like you were describing boxes…then I got to the point. Make your houseguests uncomfortable! II love it!

  25. AZGirl says:

    MDLLA blogs are up and the title of Madison’s has a typo. I am sure he meant Josh A Makes me Sick not Josh F. Need to proof your work boys.

  26. HuskerHuny says:

    Season one of RHNJ has just begun on Bravo. My how things have changed!

    • Sasha says:

      I happened to have it on that channel and they just showered Teresa spending 120,000 on furniture and paying in cash.

      • Powell says:

        I remember that. I wa like dang who walks around with that much cash?

        • Rebecca says:

          She didn’t. She gave them a down payment in cash and it was a fraction of that. She clarified this in one of her blogs.

          • Sasha says:

            No matter. She still had a wad of cash and joked that she was spending 120,000 on one room. I guess it’s a way of life for people who are too good to live in houses that other people have lived in.

            • kit9 says:

              When the furniture was later delivered, Joe whipped out a wad and paid for it in cash.

              • melthehound says:

                So what?

                • Sasha says:

                  For you it’s a so what and for someone else it might depict of life of reckless spending with no abandon using ill-gotten funds.

                  • melthehound says:

                    A lot of people pay cash for items and services. Not everyone who does is a criminal nor did they get it by devious means. It seems to me that, since forever here, just because they’ve paid cash for stuff, they are criminals, BEFORE even, the bankruptcy and certainly before the current cases. Convicted before a trial even begins based completely, from what I can see, on hate. So yes, To me, So What?

                    • I pay cash for our cars, major appliances and furniture – just not a fan of paying interest when I don’t have to – guess I have latent criminal tendencies….

                    • melthehound says:

                      Exactly WCW..

                    • Sasha says:

                      Who said that everyone that uses cash is a criminal? Not I.

                      There’s more than just paying cash for items going on here that makes them alleged criminals or just bad mathematicians.

                      Now let me address this HATE thing. How come anyone who expresses an opinion that is not Pro-Teresa is considered a hater? Then I don’t understand exactly what I am supposed to be hating. The fact that she wore a cute suit to court yesterday????

                      I like Teresa, but she is not Mary Poppins.

                      So There.

                    • melthehound says:

                      Oh please.. Ill-gotten means. I have cash to pay for large ticket items. That way I don’t have to pay 2 or 3 times the original price with interest nor do I have to pay for it when the bill comes. Because it’s already paid. What else would you suggest people who constantly rag on this woman other than haters? I’ve been reading it for over 2 years here. Want to leave me with a different impression, take a different tone.

                    • kit9 says:

                      They weren’t considered criminals for their disgusting showy displays back then before all the revelations of fraud, etc. They were considered idiots. Disgusting showy idiots.

                  • kit9 says:

                    Come on Sasha, get with the program. Anyone who bashes Teresa is a hater. Anyone who bashes Melissa, Joey, Jac, Chris, Caroline, Kathy, Richy, Alby, and Christopher is not.

                    • Laineylainey says:

                      Are you meaning to bash everyone who doesn’t hate Tre? That’s what it sounds like and I feel a little bit offended by that because I like you and everyone else that posts here. I guess that’s my own personal problem…but, Making generalizations just needlessly hurts everybody’s feelings, so why not direct your comments to the specific poster who has upset you and leave the rest of us out of it. If we could all do that, maybe this would remain a good place. I’ve tried to set the example here. Now. Not to be mean to you, but to better understand what you meant.

                    • Sasha says:

                      Kit, curse that word hater.(laugh)

                • kit9 says:

                  So, Joe was walking around with a huge amount of cash on him. Who the ef walks around with that in cash? And, making such a show of it, in front of the camera, etc. He and Teresa are just grotesque–flashing wads of cash, looking down their noses at ‘used’ homes, etc.

                  • melthehound says:

                    So, Joe was walking around with a huge amount of cash on him.
                    Again. So What?

                    • kit9 says:

                      I already answered that. It’s not normal to carry around 100k in cash. And, doing it so blatantly is grotesque. Joe and Teresa were putting up a showy front that they were rolling in dough. A very fake front we now know. Looking back at it, I think they were essentially running the same scam they would eventually be indicted for…pretending they were richer than they were and trying to capitalize on it. No doubt the serial lying Giudice’s thought that coming off as filthy rich would be good for business..’oh, look how much money they have, they have walking around $ equal to most people’s annual income! He MUST be good at business, we should invest in him! Or hire his company!”

                    • Sasha says:

                      No, Ill-gotten means that one of those falsified loans came through.

                      Change my tone? No Partner, can’t do it. So I guess that makes me a HATER in your eyes. I’ll just slap an H on my chest and keep it moving.

                      It’s great that Teresa has you to defend her honor.

                  • chismosa says:

                    Kit you know I’m in the “hater” club too. I get what you’re saying.

                    It’s the same in Miami– Lea is calling people “haters” who don’t see things her way

                    I’m so SICK of that word!!!!!

            • chismosa says:

              Sasha posting to you here because it got skinny and on today’s blog it’s all about remembering Lynn:

              I just said this to Kit:

              You know I’m in the “hater” club too. I get what you’re saying.

              It’s the same in Miami– Lea is calling people “haters” who don’t see things her way

              I’m so SICK of that word!!!!!

      • chismosa says:

        i can’t believe they’re showing that…. it’s like tricky….
        maybe Andy demanded it. lol
        those were cute days back then. Teresa all natural hair and natural boobies/ no boobies. and all CASH. ha!

        Dina was such a snob.

    • TexasTart says:

      Yes they have, I can’t watch now but I remember S1.

  27. TexasTart says:

    Kim, started early with spoiling the kid on his birthday.

    • TexasTart says:

      Here’s a pic of Kash and his perfect hair…

    • Powell says:

      That’s a great cake. As long as its just one cake and not 12 like ridiculous Phaedra was for Aiden’s 1st BD. That was so dumb. I also hope Kim doesn’t do an outrageous party. He’s only 1. Kim forgets how many kids she has. And all her endeavors aside, Kroy doesn’t make enough to have crazy parties for all those kids.

  28. TexasTart says:

  29. Nancy says:

    Bravo has crossed another line IMHO. They are showing season 1 all day. Talk about
    tainting the jury pool. All they care is about money.

    • TexasTart says:

      I hadn’t thought of that yet. Good point, Nancy.

      • Nancy says:

        I have such mixed feelings about what is going on. IF they are found guilty they should
        be held accountable and IF they owed me a lot of money I probably wouldn’t care what
        happens to them but I have grown to care about them and their daughters so it’s
        difficult to know how to feel.

        • TexasTart says:

          The fact I got attached to them as a family through this show and enjoyed them enough I wanted them to spin off. Teresa appearing to rise from the ashes to build brand(s) I thought was remarkable. Anyway, it does create conflict in my mind when it comes to incarceration, but if they are found guilty, so be it. I’m sure we all can’t stand it that those kids could pay part of the price of their parents’ bad decisions/judgement.

        • Sus says:

          Yeah, I’m attached to the kids too. Their parents crimes are not theirs. The kids pay more than the criminals when they have jailbirds for parents.

          On the other hand, I’m mad that this will be tried in federal court which means no televised trials. I would love to watch the juice man explain his business dealings.

    • chismosa says:

      yes Nancy i find it odd, it’s toying with the situation going on with Tre.
      I would attribute it to Andy but i feel like he doesn’t ULTIMATELY call ALL programming shots all the time. (because then he would have gotten rid of Teresa seasons ago …)

      A crime is a crime, fine … but it is funny to watch the Don back when i called her the Don. A letta me tella you sometin abouta my family….. has that aired yet?

      • Rebecca says:

        I think he does have something to do with it but perhaps its just to get people talking about it because it’s a headline right now and people would tune in to see if the crime matches what Bravo showed on tv. Their capitalizing on the Guidice’s troubles, but for more viewers, not for legal reasons.

    • Sus says:

      I wonder if the scene in the furniture store and the scene when the furniture was delivered will be shown as part of the People’s case.

    • T-Rex says:

      Federal Juries are way different than you local jury. First off these cases are usually determined by a Judge not a Jury Trial since Jury Trial requires a lot more money. There are fewer than 1% of cases in federal court that require a Jury. Please note that 90 percent of cases in the Federal courts are settled out of court. My court friend said the only time they don’t settle is when Life imprisonment is involved,and they want to make a point, aka the Whitey Bulger case.

  30. VV says:

    I didn’t watch MDLLA last night. Great recap Vilzvet! I’m sure you did not miss a beat.
    Josh F strikes me asa sad person (always) I see sadness in his eyes.
    Malibu, how can you go wrong with a body like that. Always liked him. He seems easy going.
    Josh A, arrogance personified. However, never fails every time I see him, it reminds me of Bert from Sesame Street (physically) no offense to Bert.

  31. Lulu says:

    Hello everyone!!! Hope everyone’s day is going great! Took the Governor to the park and he definitely lives up to his title. An older boy was trying to “boss” him around.
    “This way” older boy said
    “No this way” the Governor said and guess who followed who! 🙂

    Awesome job on the recaps Hydrangeahussy and Vilzvet! I can’t stand Madison! After his swinging dick comment he lost all respect from me! I love the scenes with grandma Edith! Someone should tell Josh if Colt wants a baby let him have one!! 🙂

    • Powell says:

      Lulu did The Governor go home w/o a fight?

      • lulu says:

        Yes he did 🙂 but I on the other hand am turning into a compulsive liar!!! I use the line “we have to go to the store and buy trains” often it works and he’s never called my bluff yet.

  32. chismosa says:

    hi all-Welcome HydrangeaHussy– thank you for your contribution!

    — Just about Miami, which i know not everyone watches- i re-watched the reunions the other day.
    They chopped and edited out SO SO SO much of what Ana presented to the cameras- i’m sure we discussed this last fall- but it was so obvious. And Lea splayed all over the white couch in horror that she was called out. PRICELESS. Ana really found out ALL her secrets. And Ana happily was willing to talk about hers— she was an open book.

    I honest to god think that, at the reunion after Ana lays it on the Don and Bravo deleted for viewers—- Andy then turns to Adri and says ‘what do you think of all this Adri, since you are so close to Lea’- i mean – do they think the viewers are THAT stupid??? we know you changed up something—
    why would Adri be up in arms over Ana making like 2 quips about Lea? WHO CARES, in the words of Juicy… We barely saw anything that monumental to SHOCK Adriana. If you follow the reunion closely. So Andy asks her about her shock. aaaaaghhhhhh Bravo and your edits!

    CLEARLY Ana brought out some BIG guns at the reunion in those file folders (and Marisol had a different colored-folder too, so methinks she had some evidence to go against what Lea claimed all season along regarding the ‘gala’)- jmho.

    Lea likely had her husband on the phone to Bravo’s lawyers and said you edit this $hit out or we sue you…. etc….

    I think Adriana, who is very measured and very pragmatic if you stop and listen to her speak- which i’m always in AWE of as English is one of her many languages she speaks- i mess up two languages alone! She’s like Nabokov…
    She clearly stated to Andy that she was in ‘shock’ at what she had heard. Meaning, what Ana presented, and perhaps Marisol too.
    TO THE CAMERAS/ VIEWERS— Lea can claim– oh Adri didn’t have my ‘back’—– well- Lea lucky for your cold-cream peddling (peddaling?) a$$ we didn’t see everything Adri was in shock over. So get over yourself. She kept standing up like she was Teresa and i wanted to break my TV. I can’t STAND LEA. Since season 1.

    So …. i believe Adri that Lea was there for her for the marriage certificate. I also have my own personal take on that situation since my parents went to city hall and then 12 years later when having me finally went to a church. So….. i don’t know. And my parents are SUPER religious and my mom is Latin American, so whatever. Yes she could be honest about it, but i’ll give her this leeway. Just because i feel her character is good innately. Unlike slimeball Lea

    Also, i dont find Adriana that over the top- because Brazilians are and Latin people are, i will attest to that. Some may find that off-putting or fake but i can tell you… it’s not. Cubans are also the loudest people you will ever meet. I literally need my ear plugs when i get together with our family’s cuban friends. Or lower the volume on the phone settings.

    If you stop and listen to Adriana she MAKES SENSE. I agree with her when she was on the boat saying ‘i’m always the crazy loud brazilian’ — i agree! Just because you are the loud passionate one doesn’t mean you are lying or dumb. I think Adriana is super smart and educated and works for herself.
    and i’m SORRY but Lea buying some artwork (which APPRECIATES IN VALUE thank you very much, i.e. an investment) from her is not giving her food to feed her son. I think Lea may dramatize that. i cant stand the LEA cackle!!! Her sister seems to talk the same high-pitched way from the previews. Yuck!!!!!

    Ok that’s my take. I’m sorry i’m an Adri fan, i said it. She’s loud but guess what, she’s right. If you closely listen to what she says about Joanna she’s right, at the reunion. She admits her faults and apologizes. Unlike many others.
    {Like Ramona. She was right about Beth and Jason. BLAM}

    Mark my words— Joanna will be on to Lea by next year and Lea will have no one and gently ‘exit’ the series because she will be ‘over it’ and want to spend time with her son before he goes away to college. Mark my WORDS. puh-LEAZE

    sorry i just love Miami and my cubanas! They throw the one calm Canadian in there but she needs to open up more. I like Lisa but she needs to stop trying to fix everyone all the time. Just enjoy everyone and go to acupuncture like 3x a week.

    Jo is a HO. Look at her wedding dress. From that trashy designer on Say Yes to the Dress.

    • TexasTart says:

      Whoa, Marysol had a folder too?

      You know what I want to see? I want Diva to show up to the RHOM reunion this year with some FOLDERS! Red, please. 😀

      • chismosa says:

        Ana had a folder one color and later Marisol had another one. I remember we dissected this last year too.
        I think Marisol came ready to defend her company…. jmho. I could be WRONG, really.

        But SOMETHING made Lea get up off her white couch like 20x. She hardly sat at the reunion and when she did she was lying down at the horror. ha ha

      • Laineylainey says:

        Ha! Yes, Diva with a red folder?

      • Powell says:

        TexasTart if I’m watching the reunion and our Diva w/her red hair showed up w/folders in hand I would be to through and on the floor. All I can say is Diva better give us a shout out. “Hey LynnFam. It’s Diva and I cane prepared”. LOL. 😉

        • Powell… and I will also have gold/silver glitter in my hair when I get there… prob wear my tie dyed summer dress and sparkly flip flops… and YES .. I will find a way to get dandyandy to let me on the set….. maybe I’ll have a PINK folder with his name on it for leverage….winks……..

          actually cutting my hair today and trying a new color from Nutrisse… INTENSE BRILLIANT RED…. even mr ford says he likes it….. will know in a few hours… whoo hoo

          hugs and peace


    • Nancy says:

      Which one is Canadian?

      • chismosa says:

        Catface with the silicone boobies ready to burst. such a sweet sweet gal but too too young for all that work ……

        Great personality

    • TexasTart says:

      Lots of good angles there, Chismosa. I still believe some of this Adriana/Lea is fabricated. And I will agree with you on Brazilian women can be “over-the-top”..oh it was funny when she said that on the boat…that was the only funny part besides walking in those heels and trying to step around. Anyway, interesting take on it all. I try to avoid much name calling, others have a better way with it, but a ho, is a ho and her name is Joanna.
      I couldn’t help but imagine that if Lisa was at accupuncture what a crisis it would be if a needle hit her inflatables. lol
      Something else I was going to say about your passionate RHOM chat, but I gotta sign out for the day/night. Places to go, peoples to see…..later!

    • Powell says:

      Chismosa I just think there was no reason for Adriana to lie about being married. She could have easily said “we were married at the court house. Now we want a religious ceremony to celebrate w/family & friends”. Now that does not sound too hard to me so I will not accept any of her 50 stories.

      • chismosa says:

        I get it Powell totally. Maybe she will say that later when she talks about the planning of the wedding?
        Whatevs I know she can’t win with this. Remember when Miami was filmed it was not initially touted as a Housewives franchise right? So maybe she thought on this “minor” show on Bravo this wouldn’t come out.
        Just like lame-a-zoid Lea’s stuff hasn’t been unearthed due to her husband’s legal powers. Jmho!

        I wish a fame-whorga type site would come out about Lea. Lol
        With her cackle playing in the background when you click on it !

        • Nancy says:

          chismosa…why don’t you like Lea?

          • chismosa says:

            Nancy I find her so pretentious. She is NOT a self made woman, she just married rich and acts like she was born in a palace. Marrying rich is fine just don’t go around quoting words of wisdom when you’re trailer park nouveau riche. Own who you are !

            I can’t stand her legalese when she’s NOT THE LAWYER, her husband is.
            she makes all these expressions — especially at the reunion, she was like a law student. Ughhhh I want to scream the V word!!!! Lol

            She puts down everyone with jabs left and right, including her close friends seasons 1 and 2. You are who your friends are and she hangs with Joe Francis.
            She should own the work she has done on her face. Makes her look more fake to deny deny. She’s had awesome work done and should be proud!

            Her cackle and her laugh are on ANOTHER LEVEL. My dogs can’t bear her voice ….lol

            She’s a Caroline to me. A Don.

            Nancy— people mag’s first page, article about rescued greyhounds I don’t think the link will work but here :

            • Nancy says:

              I’m not sure why but I still like her. So she married up in life. Is that a crime?
              Thanks for the greyhound link. They are such beautiful dogs.

              • windycitywondering2 says:

                Hell yes it is a crime to marry up!
                And a bigger crime is her passion and the financial means to help At Risk Youth (after expenses that is still a lot of money raised for the programs to help these kids). Not one charity whatever for the show, but for over a decade now. I hate her laugh but I love what she has done for kids who just need a break to help them head in a better direction with their lives.

                • chismosa says:

                  That’s ALL good

                  But she’s a society wife now and married to a man with shady legal stuff that he does for a living — (discussed ad nauseum last yr) – so I’m sorry she HAS to do this charity work. I know some may disagree with me but if she didnt she’d only be a “gala” person and that would be all she is- it. She has to do that sort of work. Just like all the socialites in ny.

                  The non socials doing stuff, —- now those are noteworthy. They’re not trying to land Town and Country spreads.

                  Hey all JMHO!!
                  I hate Mormons and they do **great** charitable works. Doesn’t change the fact that I hate them – jmho!

    • iceNfire says:

      Hi chimosa – i like Adriana too and I also remember two folders. I also remember saying something like “If Lea’s words could stand on their own she wouldn’t have to keep jumping off the couch”

      • chismosa says:

        Good one !

        Especially since she’s so in love with her “phrases”
        she quotes and makes up

        Review my lunch 👅👅👅

        • Laineylainey says:

          I like when she says ” it’s not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends…” That’s a good one. I tend to be attracted to the naturally glib. Perhaps because IRL, I feel like a tongue-tied toad. Ridddup!

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            OMG – I just read, “It’s not the words of your enemies, but the silicone of your friends”!! Either way, it is an excellent observation and it definitely fits this crew. I like glib too.

      • Laineylainey says:

        Chismosa, I like adriana, too. I can like both Lea and Adriana. Not sure how or why, but i can. I think Bravo likes it when we ‘re choosing sides. That choosing sides thing doesn’t always work for me.

        • chismosa says:

          I get it….. Deep thoughts Jack Handy

          I just never liked Lea from season 1. Never. Now sides are moving all over. JoHo will see the light soon.

          Lea will gracefully exit stage left. Soon

          Ps the Bridge— is that FBI guy the guy???? The one who set up the Florida guy on the phone with Courtney Cox’s boyfriend to make the deal???

          They’re copying The Killing by making it a cop or FBI guy

          • Laineylainey says:

            Chism Schism: I think this last episode was all about making it look like HANK is the beast!!

            • Laineylainey says:

              Hank is Sonya’s boss.

            • chismosa says:


              then they’re REALLY copying the Killing.
              I’m bored 💤💤💤💤💤

              Please make it interesting!!!

              • chismosa says:

                And Hank IS trying to retire ……
                Hope it’s just red herrings.

                • Laineylainey says:

                  Prolly is. The fact that they made such an effort to make us look at Hank…makes me wonder if they are foolin’ with us, the viewers. I had not seen the end of the killing. Never got around to it, still sitting in my dvr. Now I know the end. Hahaha! Looks like I waited too long to watch it. Hahahaha!

                  Oh and the brain damaged guy knows something. He is trying to tell Sonya something!!! Oh and remember why he is brain damaged….because of hank (of course).

                  • chismosa says:

                    Lainey— IM SO sorry if I ruined the Killing for you…..

                    That’s not telling you exacts though.

                    I’m sorry!!!!
                    Hope I can make it up to you ….❗❗❗❗

          • Laineylainey says:

            THANKYOU, I am Jack Handy!!!!

            • looneylucy says:

              I’ll reply here so it’s not so skinny. Because I watched Monk for so many seasons and loved the actor on Monk that plays Hank on the Bridge, I’ve always thought it was a possibility that Hank was the killer. Just his voice. Even though it’s skewed, his voice sounds just like Hank’s. jmo!

              • Laineylainey says:

                Really loons? You’ve been suspecting him for awhile? Not I! I didn’t get hip to it until this episode where I feel like they hit me over the head with it.

              • chismosa says:

                I agree Lucy the voices sound similar. Also to that Linder guy- the one we were supposed to think was him …..

  33. chismosa says:

    JILL/// ASHY:

    so is this Ashlee’s THIRD stroke??? Now I read third!!!!
    And lupus

    Wha???? It keeps changing. She better not just be in the hospital for a shot of Benadryl
    I do wish her good health because she’s far too young
    For this !

  34. Did you know that Roy Black was at one time , Kelsey Grammar’s attorney ~~~,,20105209,00.html

    • chismosa says:

      This makes Lea 58 now and how old is her son?
      She had him at 47/48???

      I sort of remember this article floating around last year, thank you for posting it.

      And Frasier had sex with a 15 year old !?!?!!?!! Omg

  35. AZGirl says:

    Ok so I watched some of S1 and 2 of NJ. Some of this crap is now making sense. A poster on AllAbouttheRealHousewives did say that Jac was the one who instigated all of the Danielle and Dina drama.

    For me, watching today it was all validated in my mind. Dina, Caro and Tre were best friends. They take the trip to Florida together. All is good. Happy LIfe, Happy Wife.

    Jac and Danielle are left behind. Think about it. Jac was really out of the loop and Danielle was her only friend. Danielle confides in Jac over wine.

    Jac complains about Project Lady Bug at the Brownstone fundraiser.
    Defends Danielle at the table flipping etc. Puts Dina and Caroline on the spot regarding the stupid book.
    Jac is the problem all these years. She has been the leak and shit stirrer with the facade that she is has a troubled teen and sick child. To be honest Jac is the sociopath not Tre. I really think Jac has serious issues. To the extreme that she needs Caroline on her side so Chris does not dump her ass.

    • AZGirl says:

      One more thing. I am not even bringing up the fact that she was the one who told Joey the lie that Tre was responsible for bringing down Mel on the strippergate and Jac’s daughter was the one who attack Danielle and ripped out her hair extensions. Really, Jac need serious help.

    • lulu says:

      Remember when danielle brought up how jac is left out and she had a s$% t fit? Then all of a sudden Danielle is the bad guy? That never made any sense to me the falling out with Danielle. Jac likes to either play victim or the bearer of bad news.

      • AZGirl says:

        Absolutely. I really think someone needs to break this story. There has to be someone in Patterson that knows Jac and her sneaky stuff. Maybe when the feds come after them on the embezzlement charges.
        The sick part of this is she is using Nic as a toy to defer from all of her and Chris’ bad behavior and that really bothers me.

        • AZGirl says:

          Unfortunately Jac is really seriously insane.

        • lulu says:

          Tre mentioned it. She said jac had court documents from the trial Danielle was involved in. All three hundred pages of it to gather dirt on Danielle. As you said she’s (they) attempting to deflect from the irs and feds. They are relying on the “bravo” check so they are always creating drama to ensure a spot the next season. Its sick and like you sasid I hope someone caslls her out.

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            Remember her broken record speech? “Engaged three times, pistol whipped with a 9mm…blah, blah, puke, puke”…. her obsessions are deeply disturbing. Wondering what she has on Caroline and Chris to keep them in line…..

      • melthehound says:

        Jac IS bad news.

    • VV says:

      Jac is major sh*t stirrer. Whomever buys her story that she’s all spiritual and down to earth. Call me I have a bridge to sell you 😉

    • Laineylainey says:

      Jac is loyal to no one. Correction: she is loyal to Jacqueline. Her family, you say? I don’t doubt that she loves them in her own warped way. But she will and has thrown family members under the bus, with no problem whatsoever. And then, she brings on the tears, the angst, the deer in the headlight look. Melissa and Teresa ain’t got SH!t on her. She be the King Kong of that show in terms of who is the malcontent, who is the most malicious, Whois the most underhanded. It’s Jac. It’s, Jac, Jack.

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Never liked the Loon’s goody two shoes I’m so cute and innocent routine. She has a pathological need to turn family members against family members – it doesn’t matter if it is her family or someone else’s family. It really made me sick the way she primed Ashley to attack Danielle – the pretend scolding, the facebook, the twitter, yhe text messages, etc. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I should feel sorry for her and cut her a break – I just can’t!

  36. lulu says:

    Poor joanna and marta were probably made fun of as children. Its not their fault that their last name is krupa. If you are Polish you already know if not say kupa to your Polish friends. 😉

  37. Nancy says:

    Is anyone watching season one reunion of NJ Housewives? Caroline is in such denial about
    her family. It’s “almost” funny to see if it wasn’t so sad.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I can’t watch them now. I thought it would be too annoying. But maybe knowing this cast of jokers better than when they first appeared…makes it an interesting viewing experience?

      • Nancy says:

        Not really. LOL I wouldn’t be friends with any of them to be honest with you.
        I do think that Dina is one beautify women though but stopped liking her when she
        turned on Lynn. Grrrrrrrr

        • VV says:

          I’m watching a little Nancy. Do you think there’s a way to see who checked out the freaking book out of the Library? Caroline claimed she did. Is here a way to verify that?

          • Nancy says:

            I think it was Dina but it doesn’t really matter. What gets me is that treated Danille like
            crap as they pretended to be living these perfect lives when they were/are a bunch
            of criminals themselves.

        • Noelle says:

          Hi Babydoll Nance,

          Dina only turned on Lynn when CrackerJac filled Lynn’s head erroneous information about Dina’s charity..’Projecy Ladybug.’ None of in intell info was true, as it has never been proven but, has been proven $$ from Dina’s charity goes where it should and always did.

          Jac is one evil, nasty, LYING beyotch.
          Just sayin..

          • Nancy says:

            Hi Noelle…I’m glad to hear that as I always like Dina and was surprised when she
            attacked Lynn. Jac is one sick puppy IMHO. Too bad Dina wasn’t able to make things
            right before Lynn passed away. 😦

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            The evil one used our Lynn to hurt her sister in law Dina. The evil on puts out false information and an accusation but never has the proof to back it up! She got what she wanted – to make Dina look bad. And it was a children’s charity she wanted to discredit.

  38. Laineylainey says:

    MTH – thanks for posting the instructions for how to post images here. I just saw it..hee haw, I also saw the screen shot of my comment….”figger”???!!!! LOL. Hey, you told me to use photobucket, there was no option to upload images that I could see…felt like an idiot. But you used flicker…so I think I will try that instead.

    • Nancy says:

      Lainey when does your son start his new job? Is he going to move back in with you
      guys for a while?

      • Laineylainey says:

        He has to go back to Brooklyn to get his things and move out of the apartment. He is in Austin now, they have him working at his freelance rate. When this current project is completed, they will fly him to New York…I think his official start date as an hourly employee with benefits (this is what he was hoping for, because there is a lot of overtime in this industry) will be Oct. 1. Until then, he can work at his freelance rate here or the NY office (if Ny has work for him). He negotiated that, because he wants to be in NY in September. He has spent one night here since mid June. When he moves here a good friend of his (here in AUS) wants to live in New York for awhile, so they are going to trade living spaces. Sounds confusing? It’s very typical of him and his “brosephs” every thing seems loosely gooey, but somehow everything works out for him (them). So, NO, I don’t think he will live with us, but he knows he is welcome to come back home. We don’t say it, but he knows! I mean, we like that he wants make his own way, but we sometimes will ask him, hey, you wanna hangout with us for a few days? LOL, we love him, but we love that he works hard to be independent. If he needed to come back, we would let him. Thanks for asking…typical Lainey…super long answer…..sawwwwwry!

        • Nancy says:

          I bet you are over the moon. 🙂 Good things happen to good people.

          • Laineylainey says:

            Awwwww shucks!😊 Thanks, Nancy! The only thing I regret ish is that he might have had a chance to be on the editing team for RHONJ, but no more. Perhaps that wouldnt look so good on a resume’? Hahaha! Right now his niche is TV commercial film editing. He really wanted to have some TV work, but that’s ok, he is happy with this offer. If he’s happy, so are we!

            • Nancy says:

              I think he made the right choice. Nothing good happens to people that are apart
              of the Housewives.

            • chismosa says:

              Lainey my best friend’s husband is a high producer at a company in ny that works on commercials and webisodes for big companies like unilever and stuff – wonder if its the same company.

              I’ll try to find the name of his company. I know his office is 1 block away from penn station
              Such congrats !!!

  39. Vegas Chick says:

    What’s up with Bravo?: Teresa” The Early Days?… With Teresa due in court again soon?…Coinquidink? I think not, but I wonder if her breast implants were part of the bankruptcy…probably yes! Gawd, I forgot how awful that house is… what a waste of money. Green marble? Who puts in green marble? And, stupid Dana talking about what great taste Teresa has… blech! All I can think about is all the impoverished childrenin the world who could be fed with the all the money waisted by the Guidices at taxpayer’s expense. #shameful

    • Nancy says:

      Bravo sure isn’t doing them any favors by showing the first seasons.
      They love that Teresa is making them money though. Not very nice IMHO.

  40. Sasha says:

    I thought Oprah was very funny and entertaining on WWHL tonight. Andy was beside himself and quite giddy.

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