Real Housewives Of New Jersey – S5E14 – Horse Whisper To A Scream


Here we are again folks. Week 14 of Crapfest 2013. I am just going to get right to this. Last week we ended with Jacalope thinking Teresa had taken some dig at her and her son with a Karma comment. Personally, I think only a fool would read it that way but we are talking about Jac here. Also, MeGo was playing sick and yes, I believe it was an act on her part. It’s strange that this season, 2 times when her participation was required, she had a sore throat. I gave her a pass last week because it was her birthday week and maybe she just didn’t want to spend it with everyone else. It looks like next week, that gets verified but let’s get to this week first. Again, we’ll pretend it’s all real for the sake of discussion, including whatever they said in TH interviews.

Let me get a correction out of the way here. Last week I thought it was Richie who asked if they were in the desert during one of their hikes. It was not. It was Joe Guidice. That’s one of the risks of recapping from memory, on a once through viewing. Please people, don’t be afraid to correct me if you know me to be wrong on the details that were shown on the show. I’m not that much of an asshole that I cannot be corrected on the details πŸ˜‰ .

We open the show with the Gorgas in bed and MeGo whining that she doesn’t want to do anymore therapy… She wants to be in the pool being served drinks. Thank your hubby, MeGo, I believe you are in the wrong place for that. We are still beating the dead horse of Teresa being behind everything including the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor with these two.

Next we see the Lukitas going to breakfast. The Karma comment comes up and St Chris wants to know what that was supposed to mean. Jac has it in her head that perhaps, Teresa was talking about Nicolas. At first we are to believe this is just the two of them having breakfast but as we soon see, it’s just them waiting for the others to show up for the day’s activity. As the Lurkitas are talking, we see Teresa walking up behind them as if we are watching Jaws, and the shark is about to attack, we just don’t know the exact moment. She reaches them and jumps up on the ledge behind them and scares them. Funny moment. Then the rest show up and they are off on their next hike.

So off down the trail wander the 11 dopes from New Jersey and we next see them getting off of a bus. A short bus. Actually, I think it was the resort transportation service. Anyway, as they are stepping off, there are horses in pens. Richie thinks the smell is great, Joe says it smells like shit. Which do you think was being truthful? Anyway, they all think they may get to ride the horses but that is not to be according to Wyatt Webb, the Equine Therapist. Wyatt says they are there for a different reason. More Therapy. Now, All through all this stuff, you can see MeGo’s eyes, rolling. She has so much black shit on her eyes it’s impossible to miss (why all the makeup MeGo? The snakes, bats, and scorpions aren’t impressed by your raccoon eye makeup and neither are we). Even Joey thought they might be riding. Ummm, Joey, Didn’t YOU set this all up? You don’t know wtf you’re paying for? Oh, wait… I forgot. You didn’t, and you’re not.

Okay… Wyatt explains that the point of this exercise is to be honest. If the horse doesn’t feel it, they will fail. What they have to do is get him to lift his hoof so they can scrape the dirt out of the horses hoof. St Chris goes first. I forget exactly what Wyatt talked to him about but Chris did get the horse to lift his hoof and Chris brushed off the dirt. About then, ole Richie makes the comment that Wyatt is a genius. People pay to clean up after the horses. Wyatt had his number though saying that he makes jokes when he knows nothing about what’s happening, or something along those lines. Judging from the reaction of the peanut gallery, I would say that they all agreed and I am guessing, are sick of his dumb jokes. Next up is Rosie… Her issue is she never feels accepted. TH Rosie says she is from an Italian family and is expected to marry and have kids but that just isn’t her. Sometimes, I think SHE hasn’t accepted it and is still struggling with it herself. She puts a lot of these ‘issues’ on herself. I won’t judge beyond that because I have no idea about her situation but that’s what I see. The bottom line though, is she’s being truthful and, Trigger lets her lift his hoof to clean it off.

I am not going to try and quote all of the rest because it really all became kind of a blur to me. I’ll give it a shot though. Kathy was one of the next ones. She’s tired of doing for everyone else and no one ever does for her. Not even her husband. TH Teresa – “Marcia Marcia Marcia” .. In other words, Kathy is the Jan Brady to the rest of the group. While Kathy is talking with Wyatt, Joe gets another of those phone calls and excuses himself from the group. Teresa soon follows. We are to believe, I’m certain, that this is another vineyard moment with Joe supposedly talking to a girlfriend. Turns out, he was. Milania. Why the phone call at this moment, I have no idea but Wyatt wasn’t too pleased with them taking phone calls during his Bravo moment. TH Teresa says that when her daughter calls, therapy be damned. Continuing with Kathy.. Richie is also called up after she brings up his typical anger. He’s called out on his dumb jokes and Kathy says that she just gives in to him but doesn’t feel supported (paraphrasing)… Richie can’t believe his ears. Can’t believe how he didn’t know how his darling wife feels though she’s told him a hundred times this season alone. He’s going to work on that… We’ll see.

At the beginning of this, the Gorga’s and the Guidice’s thought it was BS or rather HS. MeGo is called up or volunteers, I don’t remember which. This has to be the least authentic one of the group and Wyatt has her number. She’s afraid the horse is going to pee on her. I wish he had. Before she approaches the horse the first time, she curtsies. Wyatt wants to know wtf that was… She tries to lift the hoof and can’t. She tries again and this time approaches him with her ‘Rosie’ strut. The horse is unimpressed, as am I. I think Wyatt said something like “whore on a stroll”.Β Wyatt, who I think has seen the show, talked to her about how she interacts with people. How when she does something for some one or says something nice about or to them, she expects reward. She kind of fumbled around in agreement because she knows that’s exactly how she is. He used two words to describe her. I forget the first one but the second one wasΒ Manipulative. BLOOP! BAM! Hammer, meet nail head. Both times she tried, she failed to lift the hoof. While she is still there, Joey is called up. He too, fails. Then Teresa is called up. Now, in the edit, we are to believe that she also failed but due to fear of the horse. According to her tweets posted by VV last night though, she did in fact manage to do it and that part was cut out. I’m sure that somehow her book author Heather will be blamed for bringing this piss poor Bravo edit to light so I’ll just go ahead and say it myself. It’s all Heather’s fault er, Teresa’s fault.. Oh hell, I’m lost as to whose fault it is anymore. Someone help me out.

Moving on. Joe Guidice. Come On Down! You are the next contestant on the … whoops, I thought I was the announcer for the price is right for a second (thanks to Vilzvet for reminding me about that show). As soon as Joe approaches the horse, the horse jumps. Joe is carrying a lot of baggage in spite of his claim that nothing worries or bothers him. We all know it’s bullshit or rather, horseshit, including Trigger. Wyatt asks what’s on his mind and Joe finally admits that he’s worried about some legal issues he’s having stemming back to the false ID for the DMV thing. We’ve all read about it, debated it, and comparatively, that’s small change compared to what he faces now but I don’t think that particular one is going away. Joey and his girlfriend Richie are impressed that Joe would admit to being afraid of all that. No shit Sherlock…. After Joe gets that all out, Trigger lets him lift the hoof. We’ll get back to this in a minute.

Finally, we have the Manzos… Big Al and Momz, Al first. Wyatt asks Al what he’s proud of. Al answers that he’s always taken care of things but, there is something in Al’s eye that Wyatt recognizes. He asks Big Al if he was ever abused. Al says yes… Side note here… I don’t think he meant sexually or anything like that but, Big Al’s father was Tiny Manzo, and Al was raised in a very strict household as it was put. I’m sure that Al, as many of us his age did, took a few beatings when he got out of line. I don’t know about you ladies but for some of us on the other side of the gender line, time outs weren’t the punishment of the day. Most of us survived it and some may be better for it. End Sidenote. Al is able to lift Trigger’s leg. Momz is next and she’s asked about what Al just revealed. She says he’s her heart. Awwe. How sweet. Wyatt believes these two to be the most genuine of the group and apparently, Trigger agrees as she too, is able to lift the hoof. I am wondering more if Al is concerned about the way his father went out… Fat, Naked, and Dead in the trunk of his car. I remember reading it took them two days to get him out of there.

We’ll leave that there with one exception. You know those little scenelets during the commercial breaks. Apparently, when horses relax, their peckers come out and Trigger’s did. I am surprised Wyatt had to explain to them what that was the way these people brag on their own physical stature. MeGo looked impressed, Joey looked jealous. In fact, we heard about an experience they had when he and Joe went horseback riding years ago. One’s horse decided it was time to get some and jumped on the back of the other horse. I’ll let you rattle that around in your brains for awhile…

I guess I missed Jacqueline but I’m not rewriting to include her so I’ll do it here. She was crying about something, no certain idea what with her, ever. Perhaps she was pissed about the Karma comment. Here’s something I have heard about Karma. When you wish bad on someone else, it comes back on you (which is what I think Teresa was talking about last week but Jac is too stupid to get it). For the last 2 years, she’s done little more than trash talk Teresa. Maybe not to her face but anyone watching her on Twitter has shown us, the true Jacalope. She does manage to lift the horse’s leg though. Hooray for her…

Now we’re back at the villa. Joe is in the outdoor hot tub and out walks Teresa in her bedazzled bikini. I thought Gia threw it away… Maybe she had two. Joe wonders if she’s wearing a g-string because, you know, he’s an ass man (don’t take that in a way I didn’t mean it πŸ˜‰ ). They have some wine and I’m afraid we are about to see another hot tub moment with the Guidice’s. Not so though. They are talking about the horse thing and Joe’s admission that he is afraid of what may be coming. He’s going to miss his girls if he goes away but, it’s in God’s hands now. I didn’t know God was sitting on a NJ judge’s bench. Joe has some music to face, he knows it, and he’s rightfully concerned about it. Although, he doesn’t see himself as a criminal, and neither does Teresa. Right or wrong, she has always stood by him and right or wrong, she always paints a smile on her face as if nothing is happening and moves forward (and I know that irritates the shit out of some people).

We have yet one more therapy session in this episode. We have a Navajo (I think) drum beater. He comes out in full dress and introduces himself while beginning to beat on his drum. He explains that when the tribe does it, it’s a single heartbeat and is thumping his drum in the rhythm of a heartbeat and asks the rest to take part. We can see MeGo’s eyes rolling across the desert even though it’s dark outside. They all take part, have their fun, and Navajo Joe thanks them for their participation.

Finally, Teresa and Jac are talking (other stuff happened but it doesn’t matter) and T wants another burning ceremony with just the two of them. She invites Jac to get it all out and tell what’s on her mind. Guess what’s on her mind? Karma. Teresa explains, best as she can, what she meant. I don’t know if Jac bought it or not. I think at the time, Jac was sweating her Bravo paycheck and was looking for something new to feud with the villain about. For the record, I think the Gorgas were sweating theirs as well. Teresa and Jac hug and kiss each promising to be there for each other. We’ll see how long that lasts.

Next week kids, Part 3 of this Arizona crapfest. How much more can Bravo milk out of this? We see in the previews that Joey is getting tweets about his cheating wife… Somehow, this, I am sure, is still Teresa’s fault. They will be beating that dead horse until the proverbial cows come home.

Note: I know this episode hit close to home for a few of you. I respect you sharing your own stories and thank you for it. It may not seem like it but I did try to stay away from completely trashing these people because of that. If I call BS on anything this week, really, it’s the Bravo production story line edit.


Note part two: Personal from me… Thank you all that I didn’t thank individually for your generously kind comments about my grandniece. I may tell her next time I see her as she knows you all exist. That is, the blog. She may get a swelled head though πŸ˜‰ ..

See you next week with part 15 of Crapfest 2013. — MTH


Note number 3… As some of you know, a couple weeks ago, Lynn’s sister Cathy put a get together, together. There were several attendees and by all accounts everyone there enjoyed the outing. I told her that I would post the group shot but haven’t had the opportunity yet so here it is.. If you are in the pic and wish to ID yourself, feel free. I don’t know who anyone is in this picture.. I would like to have joined you but the round trip drive was just too much. Maybe next time πŸ™‚ .




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235 Responses to Real Housewives Of New Jersey – S5E14 – Horse Whisper To A Scream

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Happy Memorial Day. Stay cool, have fun and don’t eat too much on this last hurrah before Fall.

    • TexasTart says:

      Powell, by the looks of your post, it’s possible you had too much heat exposure at the BBQ yesterday. πŸ˜‰

      • Powell says:

        OMG TexasTart. I kept going from the living room where I felt cooler to the front porch where I was trying to feel a breeze. To top it off my aunt was cooking fried chicken and since I was right there I kept an eye on it for her. Every time I left the kitchen I had to start all over cooling myself down. Whewww. As the soon was going down I went back onto the porch. My mom said as soon as air conditioners go on sale she’s buying her sis one for her living room. πŸ™‚

    • Laineylainey says:

      Hi Powellypooh! Happy Labor Day! Hi everyone…hope you’ve had a nice morning. We just woke up about an hour ago. We’re going back to the outlet mall today! Then grilling steaks later. Have a good one!

  2. TexasTart says:

    Good Morning MTH and thank you for the time dedicated to blogging. πŸ™‚

  3. TexasTart says:

    Where in the world were the NY housewives – this Montana rodeo is in Montana Sept 1-2.

  4. Powell says:

    Nice picture. I hope everyone had fun. Thks for the pic Cathy & thks for posting MTH.

  5. Powell says:

    Last night I saw Oprah’s show “Where are they Now?” w/Dina Manzo. First off Lexi is tall & gorgeous. Didn’t she have braces? She’s got a great smile. 2nd Dina & Tommy are separated but still live in the same house. Huh? But whatever works for them I suppose. 3rd they were in a difft house. It was a gorgeous beach house. Did they move? Now to why she says she left RHONJ. She said she didn’t like where Bravo was taking the show after the “table flip”. She said she was ashamed of everyone including herself. She told Lexi “don’t be like any of them”, including herself. She said they were doing things they never would have done. She would never go to dinner w/someone she didn’t like(Danielle). She didn’t say Danielle but you know thats who she meant. She said the situations they were in were not what she would do but the conversations had were their conversations. I’m guessing she meant those were their words, no script. She said when they finished she distanced herself from everyone. Her bro & sis & Tre. She said Tre knocked on her door
    one day & they spent hrs together. At this time OWN put up pics of Tre & Joe from the recent court appearance, w/graphics saying the charges against them, that they plead not guilty & how many yrs they could get. Dina said she & Tre don’t talk about that personal stuff. I recall her saying that a yr or so ago also. She said she loves Caro & Chris & hopes that after NJ they can get back to being family. I take that to mean that she doesn’t like how Caro & Chris have changed & that after the show they can get back what they had as a family. She talked about her Ladybug Foundation but she didn’t talk about her HGTV show so I’m guessing that it was cancelled. Dona looks very good. She & Lexi do yoga & things to keep her centered. I think Dina is the real thing and that she doesn’t like how Caro & Chris have allowed their involvement in NJ change them. It was good to see.

    • LavaLady says:

      Thanks for the recap, Powell. Was wondering what they talked about.

    • VV says:

      The day Tre showed up at Dina’s door was the night they filmed at Jac’s deck and BitterClown showed up ( to return a bathing suit – cough cough) and proceeded to attack Teresa. Remember, last season.

      If the interview was about Dina. why would they highlight Tre & Juicy’s indictment? Was Oprah aiming for ratings? I think YES!

      I disagree with Dina in regards of the show. The Christening of the Gorga kid and bringing Melissa and Kathy behind Teresa’s back changed the show FOREVER. Table flipping was years ago and we have yet to see Teresa act that way in the show again.

      • Powell says:

        VV Dina was talking about her relationship w/Tre & how they don’t talk about personal issues, Tre’s legal issues being one of them but I was like “why are they showing this about Tre?”.

        • VV says:

          Ratings. Oprah is no dummy. Her network has no ratings. This was supposed to be about Dina. Somehow Tre problems get talked about? What about Dina’s own brother Bankruptcy? Why didn’t they talk about it? Teresa is rating magnet and they know it. Dina was used by OWN. IMO.

      • Powell says:

        VV the table flipping, I forgot Dina said it changed the franchise. I think she was saying that Bravo went to the darkside & is loving it. I believe many of us have felt the same way. That’s is no holds bar for Bravo to get the ratings.

        • Laineylainey says:

          I am going to agree with that remark. Shortly thereafter other franchises tried to do their version of the shocking table flip. Do I have examples…hmmm….ok,meow about when Adriana slapped Joanna? Eh? Huh? That’s a good one, ay? Surely there are other examples out there to further support my comment. Surely. Shirley?

    • ladebra says:

      Oh thanks Powell. I was going to watch, and then forgot 😦 Dina has done a lot of TV. She did that bridzilla show right? Or something to do with her wedding? I’m not sure i believe her current version of why she left the show, or that her other family members staying on the show is a reason not to speak to them. But, heh, if that’s her story, I hope she sticks with it.

      Great blog, Jeff. I got to watch most of the show, and enjoyed it. I was glad to see the yelling and screeching not there, and no fisticuffs. I don’t ask for everyone to hug and sing kum ba ya .. Anyway, I enjoyed the show.

      Hope everyone is enjoying the day!

      • chismosa says:

        It was not as ***prestigious*** as Bridezillas, cough cough.
        No- it was an embarrassment of a show on VH1 called My Big Fat Fabulous Wedding where Tommy actually said on camera with Dina sitting next to him that he cheated a few times while they were together. It was so gross.

        I still, ratings ploy or not, don’t get why they would get Dina on. What a freakin SNOOZEFEST πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€
        Why not Danielle ? Why not some polarizing character ?? Dina??? So so lame. Personality plus. Not

      • Vegas Chick says:

        StoopidHW has it on his/her site or, at least, a part of it. Lexi really grew up. Dina is looking more and more like Carolyn everyday.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Powell, the beach house was in the Hamptons. She said every summer she rents a house in the hamptons. I thought she and Lexi looked great.

  6. VV says:

    Jeff, great blog!
    ” (why all the makeup MeGo? The snakes, bats, and scorpions aren’t impressed by your raccoon eye makeup and neither are we”. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    The quote from horse guy to Melissa was:
    “There’s a difference between being nice and being manipulative.”

    • TexasTart says:

      That was the funniest zinger for me too, one both counts. Of course, hands down, the best was the reveal of the Sparkly Chuckalina! See, even without Miliana there to say it, I could NOT stop laughing!

      Good episode, didn’t read the chat yet, but glad to hear VV caught the tweet about the low down edit -omitting the fact Teresa did follow through. Really, could her and Mego have acted more childish during this very insightful exercise….and they got nothing from it?! Really, did they even pay attention (phuleeeze!) during the others’ participation?! πŸ™„

    • Powell says:

      That was good MTH. πŸ™‚

    • MelTheHound says:

      Thank you VV.. I didn’t want to watch it again to find out πŸ˜€

      • VV says:

        Wyatt (horse guy) said to Melissa:

        β€œThere’s a difference between being nice and being manipulative.”

        Joey still hadn’t figured itout. He actually thinks Melissa is being nice. Poor man…She is a good manipulator.

  7. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Thank you MTH! Happy Labor Day. Great time in Sedona. When we arrived on Saturday afternoon it was pouring down rain. We had lunch and then Mr. AZGirl and I went to the wineries outside of town. (For the locals here on the blog they are off of 89A about 10 miles on the way to Cottonwood. Turn left on Page Spring Road and they are about 3 miles in)
    The wines were fantastic. I was really surprised. Bought a few bottles.
    Hiked Sunday morning. Westfork Trail. Just of 89A about 5 miles past Slide Rock.
    Ok.last night was good. I really liked Wyatt. He was very intuitive. Wyatt had Mel’s number down. Caroline smug looks really drive me crazy but not as much as when she pretends that all is good with her and Al. Good for Kathy letting her stupid husband what a PIA he is.
    Off to the gym. BBL

    • Powell says:

      Glad you all had a great time AZGirl. I wish I could partake in the wine you sampled.
      It’s funny how Caro always wants everyone else to open up, talk it out & mend their relationship whereas she doesn’t do the same between her & Al.

    • California35 says:

      Lovely vacation in Sedona πŸ™‚

  8. Powell says:

    MTH your niece is very cute. Hopefully you will be able to attend her talent contest and tape it for us to see.

  9. California35 says:

    “What are the odds that Luann didn’t need to shop for an outfit and new boots?!”

    NY on Montana!?? Ok :-/ that picture shows them sooo out of thero element … City Slikers anyone?

  10. Mrs Peabody says:

    On Melissa, I don’t think she likes to participate in anything where there is a chance that her actions might be called into question. She wants everyone to see her as this wonderful person and Teresa as a horrible person and if someone is going to question that she will not participate. She made it very obvious she did not want to be there for any of that. She probably thought she was getting a fabulous spa weekend where she could lay around all weekend showing of her body and her idea of beauty and was really pissed when she found out she was going to have to participate in this healing process Bravo was trying to force down our throats. I don’t care what they are trying to show on that show she hates Teresa and nothing has changed that. I think that hate comes from nothing more than her jealousy of what Teresa has. Whether you like Teresa or not her and Melissa are so different in Melissa is a manipulator and Teresa is not and it eats Melissa up because she has to work so hard for what is just coming to Teresa naturally. (I hope what I am trying to say makes sense). Melissa wants what Teresa has but she is the one who is having to work for it while Teresa just falls into it. Don’t get me wrong I do think Teresa works very hard but her working and Melissa’s working are 2 different ways. Melissa is one jealous bitch and you can bet your house that she is beyond happy for all of the problems Tre and Joe are having regardless of what she is trying to put out there She knows if her real feelings are known everyone will come down on her so she plays the supportive sil but doesn’t mean a world of it. And that is why I don’t like her, all fake and a really selfish person underneath the outer layer. I think they are all happy for the position Tre and Joe have found themselves in and hope they loose everything. I’d like to hear their real conversations on the subject when the cameras aren’t around. They probably did a happy dance.

    • VV says:

      Bravo edited this episode to make it look like Teresa and Melissa are the same person. Many on Twitter thought the same last night and bought the Bravo edit. To me they are not. Melissa like many have said for years is MANIPULATIVE. Glad the horse guy called her on it. Teresa is not. They all hate Teresa because she became the breakout star of the show and a lot of opportunities came her way and she became even more successfull.

      • Powell says:

        I would also like for Mel to say she did all the sneaking around Tre’s back to get on the show so that she could be the breakout star.

        • VV says:

          Yes! That gets forgotten at times. Did she apologize to Teresa for keeping it a secret that she was hired by Bravo.

    • MelTheHound says:

      (I hope what I am trying to say makes sense)
      I get you πŸ˜€

    • Powell says:

      Mrs. Peabody you hit the nail on the head w/how Mel feels about Tre & ITA. I know Mel would be eaten alive if she told her true feelings but I’d love for her to tell her “true feelings” about how she feels about Tre. If she hasn’t like Tre from the 1st time she met her, that she wants what Tre has & that she wants to surpass Tre’s success I want to hear her admit it. I for one will respect her for
      it. But alas we will never hear that pass thru her lips.

      • Mrs Peabody says:

        I think there would be a little more respect for her if she was just honest in her feelings to. She needs to stop trying to be the victim and own up to I don’t like Teresa and I never have. Just say it. Nothing wrong with disliking someone. Not everyone is going to be liked by everyone, some people just don’t mesh up. I have a feeling she was so used to being the baby and center of attention in her family because she was the youngest. SHe goes into the Gorga family where Teresa held that role as the only girl in the family and all of a sudden she wasn’t the center and she didn’t like it and that’s a shame for that family.

        • Powell says:

          The “baby girl” role does make sense. She thought she would win over Mom & Pop Gorga & have that role in her new family.

        • chismosa says:

          I agree and it’s bad she married another baby—- ⏩⏩⏩bad match

          Unless her next oldest sister is 6 yrs older
          than her that technically gives her the mentality of an “only” child.

  11. California35 says:

    I cant believe i am going to say this, i watched NJ last night. Almost full episode!!! At least it wasn’t an episode full of screaming and crying. The horse guy was pretry good, and WOW what he told Melissa.

  12. Sasha says:

    I don’t think that Melissa is jealous of Teresa at all. Their lives are about equal with husbands, kids and houses.

    • Mrs Peabody says:

      She plays catch up to Teresa. Teresa seems to be the type of person who is what you see but Melissa is not. She hides the real Melissa but doesn’t do a good job of it, as you can see right through her and you see the nasty jealous person she really is.

    • Rebecca says:


      She shouldn’t have a reason to be jealous of Teresa, but it is obvious that she is. She wears the same dresses that Teresa did, she used her old makeup artist, photographer, she copies their photographs, etc. if she is to be jealous of anything, it’s that Teresa has some artistic skill (clothing, cooking, the photo poses) and Melissa has none. Teresa always has the insight to do something first and it turns Melissa and Kathy an ugly shade of green. Hence, let’s blame Teresa for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

      • Powell says:

        Isn’t Mel’s New intro line kinda copied from Tre? “Happy wife, happy life”, something to that affect?

        • MelTheHound says:

          I think it’s Sexy wife, happy life. Promoting her ‘book’.

          • Laineylainey says:

            She still copied…took the Guidice’s little saying they were known for and tried to take it and make it her own. Trying to improve on something that was already catchy and cute. She just couldn’t come up with something more original.

        • VV says:

          I think FW a few years ago had a litany of everything that Melissa had copied from Teresa with screen shots pictures and all. There is not denying she copied her.
          However, charisma cannot be copied. Teresa has it,Mel does not. So, she has to vilify Teresa in other to make herself look better.
          Earth to Melissa: Is not working!

  13. California35 says:

    I think Melissa and Theresa just had some usual Rivalry, that some woman have….that hot out of control. Jealousy from both sides like, one got a new car, the other wishes or goes to get herself a new car. They use snark, but don’t like it when the other snark at her. Etc. things just added more with the husband’s rivalry of their own AND their tempers. Then you add “friends” adding to fire, and TV. Theresa getting so much more ahead of M and J, just made everything even worst. I don’t think either one is good or bad…as Kelly would say “who carrress?” πŸ˜›

    • Sasha says:

      Ladies, I still don’t see it as jealously. I do see a lot of one up manship.

      As far as Teresa doing something first………

      All the housewives seem to put their names behind most of the same products. So what does it matter on who does it first on a show. Books, music, alcohol and clothing lines seem to be the most popular. Get what you can while you can get it because the popularity will die down.

      I really don’t think that Kathy is jealous. I agree with what Rosie was saying last night. Kathy’s personality gets her overlooked. She seems to want Teresa’s acceptance and adoration and Teresa can take her or leave her.

      I know I am in this club all by myself but I just don’t see Melissa as manipulative. She is all about Melissa though and she loves her Little Joe and a lot of her behavior stems from that whether it be wrong or right. She is a hard person to like.

      • Powell says:

        Sasha I get what many of you are saying that you don’t see Mel as jealous of Tre but I really do see it as that. Not the copying of endorsements because yes the entire franchise endorsing the same thing & I feel they should do whatever honestly to make the money because yes its going away one day. But it’s not just getting a car after Tre got a car or wearing the same outfit after Tre wore it or something similar its wanting the fame & adoration that Tre has. Not the material things. By hook or crook they will get the material things they want. Brands want Tre to endorse this or that. They see her charisma. Mel is asked to perform in dark off the beaten path places. Tre is brought out front & center. Mel sees that. Why can’t she get what Tre gets?
        I can see her asking Joey that. Rumors
        can tarnish someones rep. Why is Joey so up in arms that his sis is behind every last single rumor about Mel? Mel has planted the seed in Joey’s pea brain that she hasn’t been able to do xyz because of Tre putting out these rumors.
        No Kathy isn’t jealous of Tre. Kathy doesn’t have a jealous bone in her body. I feel she just wants Tre’s love, respect & respect for her biz she’s trying to build.

        • Sasha says:

          See Powell, I have a different idea of how great Teresa’s fame is. I know she is on the higher end of Housewife popularity, but what does that really mean? Sure she has done great with the books. Not so sure about the last one. I think she is putting her name behind a lot of products hoping to strike gold and I don’t think there is a midas touch there. Didn’t Melissa even make a comment that none of the products are selling that well.

          I think they are about equal on where they show up and wave to the nice people.

          I think Ne Ne is the one that has really worked this thing well. I just saw her on the Fashion Police.

          • VV says:

            Melissa, will never “eggmitt” that any of Teresa’s products are a success. Melissa’s intention for making that comment in front of the cameras was to hurt Teresa’s brand. She’s been none stop trying to hurt her since she came on the show.

            Even Jay Mohr tweeted about during Melissa first season on RHONJ:

            “For the record @melissagorga tonight told me to blog negative things about @Teresa_Giudice books and businesses. #fact #sad”

      • chismosa says:

        Hi Sasha, I’m here for you girl. I’ll build a little tent we can hide in for the next 6 months the show is on.

        • Sasha says:

          Chis, does that mean we can throw rocks and take cover.

          • chismosa says:

            Yes I’m collecting some now.
            And building some shields from the Tree huggers (not people on this site! The psycho twitter folk I mean)

        • Powell says:

          Chismosa you are funny. You & Sasha aren’t alone. I think we all feel some of the same things about Tre & Mel. I think there’s only a few things we disagree on. So you & Sasha can’t hang out in the tent by yourselves. I’m comin
          in w/libations. πŸ™‚

      • missusmc says:

        I don’t know if I would classify it as jealousy, either. I think it’s competitiveness, plain and simple. I think melissa copies Teresa, hoping her version of whatever it is will be more successful/popular/ prettier. I think melissa grew up being the pretty sister, has had everyone fawning all over her, and ,st her ,tach when she married a guy who was truly friends with and adored his own sister. Melissa couldn’t handle it. So whatever it’s called, be it jealousy or competitiveness, or just plain being an awful person, that thing is there, and undeniable.

        • missusmc says:

          Oh good lord. I can’t type on an iPad. It was supposed to read, met her match.

        • Laineylainey says:

          You got it missusmc! Competitiveness! But what motivates or triggers competitiveness? Envy, jealousy, lust. Wanting something that someone else has.

          • missusmc says:

            Or just plain old insecurity. I know plenty of women who just like to bring others down because it makes them feel better, not because of jealousy. There’s something missing with themselves, not others. Maybe Melissa is jealous of Teresa. Who knows? I just think she seems like the kind of girl who isn’t happy with ANYONE who could be viewed as “better” than her. I have known people who act like her who aren’t motivated by jealousy, or wanting what someone else has. They just don’t want anyone else to have better than them, because they want to be the best. It’s called being a POS.

      • I LOVE COFFEE says:

        Sasha, your not alone. I agree with everything you said. I can’t see the jealously.
        I also agree with you on Kathy. The good ones always get over looked. I love the sister love between Rosie and Kathy. What Rosie said about Kathy is true. I don’t see Rosie as a liar.

  14. VV says:

    Why would @JohnnyWrightWEG and @MelindaWEG have anything to do with Melissa. She can’t sing. She’s approaching her mid thirtieths. She has zero charisma and is hated on RHONJ.

  15. Powell says:

    Watching Wendy, a rerun of course. Andy C is on. Wendy told Andy don’t give Porsha a spinoff. Andy said they don’t just give spinoffs. It takes time. Wendy asked was he going to NeNe’s wedding cuz he doesn’t socialize w/HWs cuz it’s business. He said right. He didn’t know when NeNe’s wedding was. He didn’t get an invite but he would love to go if he could. Was he a guest? I don’t remember. Wendy said Adrienne wasn’t at the reunion. Isn’t that in their contract? Andy said
    yes it is. The morning of the reunion Adrienne’s contract was not renewed. Weren’t we led to believe that Adrienne’s team of lawyers got her out of it?

    • Mrs Peabody says:

      but wouldn’t the reunion be part of the contract that was expiring rather than the new one?

      • Powell says:

        I would think so. Good point so maybe her lawyers said, no renewal, she’s a no show to the reunion.

        • Laineylainey says:

          Yeah, what are they gonna do, fire her? Well, I guess they could sue, but Adrienne’s pockets are deeper than Bravos.

    • MelTheHound says:

      I think we were led to believe that she just didn’t show up and was fired, in part, because of it. We all know that’s bullshit though due to the Jacalope not being at the S3 reunion…

      • VV says:

        Point to Jeff fir Debunking Bravo Myths.

      • ladebra says:

        If I remember some of the things said when Jacq didn’t show, there was a medical basis for her no show. At least it was hinted that she was not able to be there because she was sick … Hadn’t they just shot two seasons almost back to back? Looking back this might have been when her son was being diagnosed also, anyway, I think it was hinted that she was overwhelmed and on the verge of a mental breakdown. After the suicide, Bravo possibly is more sensitive to the mental well being of their on air talent.

        • MelTheHound says:

          S3 reunion \was filmed right after Stripper-gate. If she was having a mental breakdown it wasn’t enough to keep her off of twitter the day of the reunion being filmed. I did then, and still do, call BS on all of Jac’s ‘issues’. I think she played a big role in that event and was hiding from the rest of them.

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            I see a difference between not showing up for a contract dictated event, like the reunion, because the individual doesn’t want to do it and because mgmt. doesn’t want an individual there because their behavior might damage the franchise.
            Adrienne knew she couldn’t attend the reunion because the questions/answers would damage her personal life, possibly impact her impending divorce and damage her family’s business empire.
            Wacky was kept away from that particular reunion because Bravo knew her well enough that she would say things they didn’t want known and that may have put them into a situation where lawsuits would follow and the successful franchise could be compromised or destroyed. Wacky took to twitter and tried to do what she would have done in person had she been at the reunion taping.

  16. lulu says:

    Good morning everyone!!!!! Powell I had a split second panic when I read memorial day on your post. It was a noooo not labor again!!!!!!!!! Although I did 3 years ago labored around this time. The governor was born the eight. πŸ˜‰

    Mel awesome recaps!!!! Just a fyi I never eat or drink while reading your recap!!!

    For those horse whisperer’s here…… correct me if I’m wrong horses respond to our posture and emotions? A person who is frightened would get a negatived response from the horse right?

  17. “Fat, Naked and Dead in the trunk of his car. I remember reading it took them two days to get him out there”

    Holy SH!T!

    • plainviewsue says:

      And remember season one reunion, Caroline went on and on about how wonderful Tiny Manzo was. What a great father in law and father he was. Caroline, like Melissa, likes to change her facts.

  18. I call BS on why Dina left!
    She got caught forging her ex husbands name for Lexi to appear on the show. SHe blamed Danielle as Caroline and Jackhole did too when the episode aired. They made sure Danielle paid for that too. They’re sure Danielle was excluded from everything.

    • chismosa says:

      I can’t stand Dina
      Smug beyotch

      • Laineylainey says:

        I kind of agree with you…something about her is so self serving and arrogant. I know she does good works, but she can be catty, too. Her comment, “…she wants to wear me like next year’s Versace..” Or was it last year’s Versace? Doesn’t matter, I just didn’t see her as being any better than the rest of them. Even Jac, even the table flipper. However, I think she’s been trying to get away from that type of behavior. Maybe she wasn’t proud of that.

    • Powell says:

      Miss Fab as I was watching it I was remembering that. I do feel that had everything to do w/why we didn’t see Lexi anylonger. As we saw Dina on the show she was always talking about and showing how she liked to live a Zen lifestyle. I think she didn’t like where Bravo was taking the show,.nor how her siblings changed from how she knows them to be. Chris became more & more involved on the show so I think he liked the money & later liked that he could showcase BLK. Caro becoming an empty nester & Al not caring, she likes the Bravo lights. So they both have gone to the Bravo dark side.

    • Rebecca says:

      Andy himself said that wasn’t true. It’s not true! I don’t blame her for leaving as she watched the show get darker and darker. The other women are so negative.

  19. VV says:

    Thanks Sue for proving once again that Carolina Manzo lies.

    @plainviewsue: .@carolinemanzo In your TH, u said it was very telling that neither @Teresa_Giudice or Mel lifted horses foot. Tre did. You’ll never change

    Original Message:

    • Powell says:

      She just can’t give Tre credit when credit is due.

      • VV says:

        They are all Jealous. Always have, always will.

        • Powell says:

          I like that VV. We’re saying Mel is jealous of Tre. No they are competitive. When really they’re ALL jealous of Tre. πŸ™‚ LOL VV. But really. That’s kind of a possibility except for Kathy. I don’t believe she is at all. Kathy is the

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Since Caroline has a book to sell and is jockeying for that Manzo spin off – she can’t give credit where credit is due. This season did take a midcourse correction when those who could really answer the questions of Melissa’s extramarital activities and who is really behind them couldn’t play out. Now we are being tortured with a throwback to the first seasons where it was Caroline’s Rules and the Gorga/Guidice families have to be neutralized in popularity and storylines – LOL, boring is boring and boring are the Manzos.

  20. chismosa says:

    Hi all- Sasha you may be the only one who reads but I’m just posting what I noticed last night. Happy LD to all. Catch you later //// I know you ALL will be anxiously watching Tamara. Lol! ###teamAdriana

    I saw the “defy expectations” shirt finally but why did they blur out the back where it said black water ?? That’s weird ??? Since we’ve seen that on hats and other stuff galore. Is bravo suddenly not on board with them promoting blk?

    God Don why did you have to use that annoying word “telling”. 😠😠😠Bleccchhhhhhhhhhhh

    Looks like Joe walking away from everyone to make a phone call was his FU to the cameras and shows him calling his daughters. Bwahahahahahahhahahahaha! Good one Joe! You got Bravo back good! πŸ˜­πŸ˜‚

    I’m never going to forget the image of the horse almost running away from Juicy. WHOAAAAA boy. Whoaaaaaa

    If Teresa says she lifted the leg- then why was she explaining to her brother about why she couldn’t ? I don’t get it? That makes no sense to me even reading between editing and cuts and splices

    I just want to say for Jacqueline —- I mean if we go back before the whole production-gate setup of the finale of last season // ❌that which may not be spoken of–❌—
    What Jacqueline’s beef was with Teresa, legitimately —- was that Tre was on the tabloid covers week after week and there was real true legal stuff going on and she never opened up or was straight to her real close friend Jacq. So Jacq asked her about that and Jacq was very honest in saying she can’t really be good friends or as close to someone when they hold back such huge things in their lives —
    (This is before the overhearing Teresa badmouth Jacq after they hugged on the campout/RV trip. )
    So I’m saying forgetting how KooKoo Jacq got AFTER all that and the finale and all that — Jacq was sincere in her friendship with Teresa, I thought.
    Not talking legal issues –not talking past the sanfran trip and finale. Just friendship, originally.
    So it was tough to see last night that Tre really doesn’t “get” what Jacq’s original true problem was with her.

    πŸ”·πŸ”·πŸ”·πŸ”·πŸ”·πŸ”ΆπŸ”ΆπŸ”ΆπŸ”ΆπŸ”ΆJust saying. Now running to the closet to hide !!!! πŸƒπŸƒπŸƒ

    • VV says:

      If Teresa hadn’t lifted the leg. Carolina, Jac, Melissa, Joey, Rosie, Chris, Rich and Kathy would be all over twitter denying it, many times X 10. The fact they are not, proves that Teresa did in fact lift the horse’s leg.

      • chismosa says:

        I hope this becomes a big debate at the reunion. 🐴🐴

        • plainviewsue says:

          Now that would be funny!!! The debate over the horse’s leg. Someone tweeted that Joey Gorga also lifted it, which they didn’t show. Richie didn’t lift it, but of course he doesn’t get called out on it.

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            I enjoyed how fast that horse took it’s leg down when it realized that Caroline had a hold of it!

    • VV says:

      Jac has a legitimate reason to be mad at Teresa because if what???????????????

      Tre is on Magazine covers because they want her. The rest of the cast was always jealous of that.

      Dina is close with Teresa and they don’t talk about certain things. If a friend of mine dies not to talk about it, I respect their decision.

      Jac lied when she said she overheard Teresa bad mouth her in Cali. Jac was told by Melissa that Teresa was bad mouthing her and Jac lied by saying she overheard her snd thus protecting her source (Melissa). This was debunked on blogs ages ago.

      • chismosa says:

        Ok vv, sorry I didn’t know it don’t know about your last paragraph. I thought I was up to speed I am not on the anti Mel conspiracies — honest I didn’t know

        Yes if someone is a close friend of mine we don’t hide the 20 ton pink elephant standing in the room. To me that does not a “close/tight/dear/true” friend make. That’s just me. My friend and I can however discuss and amicably and mutually agree to not disclose any info. That’s a friend. But to each, their own.


        • Rebecca says:

          Chismosa – it isn’t Melissa’s fault that Jacqueline CHOSE to lie about hearing what Teresa supposedly said about her. Teresa liked Jacqueline and wanted a friendship with her. There’s no way she whipped right around and started calling her names in front of Melissa.

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            I may consider giving Wacky a shred of integrity if she would name the fricking sources she cites when she makes her very damaging accusations. And I am not holding my breath for the day that Melissa and Joey actually name the peeps who are feeding the Teresa is behind the cheating rumors. Both Wacky and Melissa plant the seeds but don’t tend the garden.

    • Powell says:

      Ok chismosa. If your BFF or really good friend didn’t tell you something that was life altering you would & I would be hurt & say”why didn’t you tell me? I thought we were friends. You can tell me anything.”. After the explanation from your friend you would accept it, say ok, & get over it. Jac didn’t do that. She went beyond, over & round the bend. She’s called Tre a liar, (we know Tre has colored some things), at the reunion told that Tre told her Joe had his Secretary on his desk, went on countless Twitter rants about Tre, etc, etc, etc. If Tre doesn’t get why Jac is mad at her I don’t blame her cuz if what Jac said is the reason, the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

      • chismosa says:

        Powell I see what you mean. The liar stuff. It’s just hard to keep track of this €hit
        I was talking plainly about the “sit down” in the backyard where the Don popped up from the bushes —

        Not about that other stuff because I know Wack gets wonky and wacky at some point.

        My issue is that I have friends of 20-25 yrs + and this $hit not being discussed to me on camera with lip licks or off camera / away from bravo — would annoy me and affect my friendship. I wonder how much Bravo influenced this “fight”
        It may just be the manipulation of bravo. Fine then.

        I know Wack has issues I’m just saying the head in the sand $hit wouldn’t fly with me of a close friend. Not a faux/ fair weather / reality show friend but a close one

        Sorry mr Dizzy came back plus I’m on a sleeping pill so it’s hard to put my pov straight.

        I know I know it’s hard to talk against Tre. Melissa of course made me do it 🐊

        • Powell says:

          Gosh Mr. Dizzy needs to leave you alone. I’m sorry its still holding on to you. Hey I haven’t watched in 2 seasons but am glad many if you do & it is blogged. They ALL get in my last nerve & Tre has done her sh*t no doubt but I just see Tre’s side of “what on earth has she done to each & every one of them?”. All the hate from Jac, Caro & Mel most of all, I just think they those 3 are lying about whatever their reasons are. None of us point blank understand their reasons.
          Feel better. 😦

    • There are some that think Jac was trying to get T to eggmit on camera some of the stuff she got paid for (like mag covers) because she didn’t put that income in the bankruptcy.

      The deal is if T talked at all about her legal woes, then the IRS/gov’t would have more ammo on her. She must have listened to her lawyer not to discuss details – especially on camera!

      Just ask yourself this, if you had been friends with a nutzo like Jac that spills her gut on twitter tantrums, would you ever discuss anything personal with her? Yeah I wouldn’t either!

      • Sasha says:

        I don’t think IRS needed any conversation between Jac and Teresa to build their case.

        Didn’t that conversation happen long after they had to admit they hadn’t disclosed major parts of their income. Like book advances.

        • windycitywondering2 says:

          And yet the feds have requested all footage shot of all shows.
          Will they only use this in the Guidice case?
          LOL The Lauritas will be in much bigger trouble when their indictments/cases are ready to go forward, because they stole more money, told bigger lies, destroyed evidence and have some real monied folks who will go for much bigger sums in civil damages.

          • Sasha says:

            Sure they requested footage and then maybe it will 50 count indictment.

            How come the Lauritas are always brought up when Teresa’s case is mentioned. Did Jac sign on the dotted line with Teresa??

            Should Jac avoid jail since she has two chlldren and one being autistic?

            • windycitywondering2 says:

              After reading legal documents both here and on other sites regarding the Guidice’s legal affairs AND the Laurita’s legal affairs (that are not yet to the actual case w/indictments stage), I see this info from the show and unused footage equally damaging to both families. The fact that this franchise had individuals ask about being audited and the use of wiretaps during their interviewing process make ME think that something some of them were doing might have been just south of “legal” and didn’t want it exposed.
              I don’t understand why Jac avoiding jail is in the convo other than she expressed concern on the show about both Guidice parents going to jail at the same time.

      • Powell says:

        Hey Blue. HA! Hi get you. #1 do we really care how many mag covers Tre did & got paid for? No. #2 if Jac wants Tre to reveal than how about Jac reveal
        how Chris raided the biz cash for personal use for planes, trains & automobiles? Show me yours Jac. I’ll show you mine.

      • chismosa says:

        Thanks Bluesky, hadn’t remembered.

        Again, why can’t real friends decide — “we won’t go there on camera no matter what they (bravo) demand of us”

    • Laineylainey says:

      Why would only Sasha read this post? I musta missed something somewhere.

  21. plainviewsue says:

    I haven’t read the blog yet, but just wanted to touch on VV’s post in last night’s blog:

    Somebody asked Caroline in Twitter:

    @CarolineManzo I saw on where are they now on Oprah that the show is scripted. Please say that’s not true. Tonight’s was touching

    Caroline’s reply:
    @photossmile not true at all

    Dina vs Caroline feud still alive.

    Earth to Caroline: everybody and their uncle knows THEY ARE SCRIPTED!

    I watched Dina’s interview and she didn’t say that it was scripted. What she said, which is what I think we all know, is they are put into situations. Like she said, normally she would never go out for a meal with someone she didn’t like. But once they are put in the situations, Dina never said they are told what to say!!!!

    • VV says:

      Yes, she sugar coated it. We know they re-enact situations, we know they re-shoot scenes, they prep locations the day before shooting, and like Dina said in real life you wouldn’t go to dinner with you enemy. What producers cannot control is the cast reaction to an event. However, I will argue that by saying they do this via Talking Heads.

      These shows are scripted because in the words of a reality tv producer. A network just cannot put a camera crew and the expense that goes with that to follow reality tv Star and then nothing happens… It makes perfect sense to me.

      • VV says:

        All the phone calls on all the shows are always perfectly timed to the situation, that is also scripting. IMO.

        • windycitywondering2 says:

          And when we have scenes with no one in them but a dialog going on – scripted as well. IMO

      • OMG it is disgusting that Bravo even thinks we would believe half of this crapfest is real.

        I think the fight scenes are scripted too. They are doing whatever they can to make sure this show gets lots of viewers AND IS NEVER CANCELLED. Whatever they have to do, they are more than willing to do it for the $.

        The fascinating part (ashamed that I even watch this crapfest!) is how they can’t hide their true personalities.

        For example (and I get most of this from here & FameWhorgas) Melissa has a past she is not proud of. She did live with her former boyfriend Bulldog for a long time, before she decided JoGo was a better catch. She has a past that his parents don’t like – to them, you either are a “good girl” or a whore.

        But here’s the truth. Most people don’t care about her past. The real problem is Melissa can’t accept her trashy past. She wants to keep it covered up. So far, 2 guys on twitter, past boyfriends, have been saying they will spill the beans. They haven’t so far. Why? One of them tweeted about JoGo threatening him that his “connections” would go after him if he dares to talk. So is that it, JoGo has “connections” and he thinks he can scare everyone into shutting up?

        For the record, I think they are all “connected” and have very shady business practices. All of them.

        • Sasha says:

          Most people don’t care about Melissa’s past???? That’s seems to be the theme of the season. They are coming out of the woodwork to tell us what a cheater and a tramp she is when they could go about their own lives and ignore her.

          If she is all that and then some and Joe Gorga still loves and sticks by her then what’s the problem?

          Everybody seems to want a piece of the spotlight pie.

          • Laineylainey says:

            Bravo came up with that theme. I believe that Most people don’t care about her past. I don’t care about her past. I don’t care about her present. I don’t care about her future either. But she according to Bravo had to have a it is what it is…sometimes they hit a home run with the storylines, sometimes they strike out. This time they struck out. IMO

          • Mrs Peabody says:

            I think they are commenting on her to show she isn’t what she tries to portray herself to be, that she does have a past and she thinks she is better than she is. If she didn’t try to act like something she’s not I doubt we’d be hearing about her from them at all

        • Powell says:

          Joey’s connections are 2 apron strings tied to Mel. He’s not connected any more than I am. He’s a little man that is proud of his muscles. Nobody is scared if him. It’s those 2 guys past too. If they want to talk, they can talk & Mel & Joey can’t do anything. As long as its the truth, they have nothing to be scared of. You’re right. The problem is Mel is ashamed of her past & Joey doesn’t want it revealed. He feels
          shame because of his parents & that’s his problem.

          • Sasha says:

            I think this is so past the parents not liking his wife and being ashamed of what she has done and who she has done it with. It’s out there now and he just wants it to stop.

            To me it’s much ado about nothing. I mean really. How many men would put this much effort into a past girlfriend.

            As I have said before, if Bulldog has the goods then he needs to bring it..

          • windycitywondering2 says:

            It bothers me that Melissa’s sisters get so vicious to these people from Melissa’s past. Why? They are not defending her honor, they are attacking and threatening them. Why do that?

            • Laineylainey says:

              They have something to hide. Well, I don’t know for a fact, but they behave as if there is something to hide. HEY all four of you MARCO SISTERS!!! WE DON’T CARE!! NOBODY CARES what she did before marriage!! I don’t care what she does WITHIN her current marriage. Let the jerks (her ex lovers, boyfriends, clients) talk, I think we all agree that they are jerks for talking about her now when she is a wife and mother.

              • Sasha says:

                Lainey, that’s what I am trying to say. If she’s the scum of the earth, then they should just be glad that they dodged that bullet. She’s Joe’s problem now.

                • Laineylainey says:

                  If she’s scummy, what does that make them?? Right!?? That’s what I don’t understand about a man calling out a woman they were with…I mean, jeez…are you saying she’s a ho? Well, then you’re a man ho! Off with your head, jerks! Both heads! Go away! Get a life!

  22. Iowagirl says:

    I just could not watch the show last night, I turned it off after 10 minutes. As a hard core Bravo fan I believe this show has lost all entertainment value. I can’t believe MTH can even blog about this crap, talk about taking one for the team! I am afraid bravo has lost me as a viewer because of this show and the marriage license BS. Tre is not the cause of every problem in NJ and litte miss Miami WAS married all along although she thinks it’s all Leah’s fault. Tre and leah should get together and rule the world if they are that powerful.

    • MelTheHound says:

      One time through the show, follow the comments on the blog, and then write the recap. If it’s correct, great. If not, ohdamnwell. Not watching it twice and I know I’ll be corrected if I am wrong. I think I do a pretty fair job of getting the high points though πŸ˜‰ You may notice these recaps are getting shorter. By the end of the season, they will read “Shit Happened.. The End.” I’m with you on being over Bravo BTW,,,

      • lol MTH that day may come! I hate Bravo more & more. They don’t care who commits suicide, how many families are ruined, or who goes to prison. All for the $.

        What does it say about us watching it? lol we are addicted to this crapfest.

        • however, RHONJ and the LA real estate show are the last 2 Bravo shows I watch. The rest just became too disgusting. Some day, I pray to be Bravo Free πŸ˜‰

          • Powell says:

            I like NY. OC wasn’t too bad. ATL was kinda back to fun w/a cookoo thrown in. Miami its Adriana’s lies but so far its not too bad. NJ they can take it off. You all make it fun to discuss. BH the 5ft cookoo is gone, Taylor is insignif & Kim does laundry so its ok. All the other reality, Below Deck, Eat Love they can take off. I wouldn’t care. And I do like Million dollar listing.

        • MelTheHound says:

          Trainwreck, Bluesky, Trainwreck πŸ˜‰

      • Powell says:

        HA MTH. When I was reading your comment I was thinking, “MTH is going to start blogging one line”. LOL.

      • Laineylainey says:

        Hahah! And the SH!t rolls on….

  23. chismosa says:

    VV got to say:

    I’m not very impressed with the lineup and topics I’m seeing for our dear Bethenny’s first few shows and she’s going to tackle MARRIAGE on one of her newest shows.
    I thought she’d nab HUGE stars for her first day and week. Hmm

    Okie dokey!!!!

    I’ll be πŸ• πŸ••πŸ••πŸ•™back later

    • VV says:

      I just don’t think she’ll last. She is an acquire flavor and after a whole will wear her audience out. Not to mention, she’s not as open and honest as she claims she is.

    • California35 says:

      Really? Hhmm i am so looking forward to it, and i hope it does well…but i am concern :-/

      It is finally showing up on tv listing. I had no idea what channel and what time, so it took me some time to find it. It is AT 8am!!!??? :-/ unless there will be another showing at a later time of the day (and even two channels) 8 seems very early.
      I have a feeling there wont be stars on it either. Maybe occasionally only. We will see.
      Regardless and Needless to say, i scheduled the recurring recording πŸ˜›

      • Powell says:

        She will be on our Fox 5 but I haven’t paid attention to the time. I will the next time they show it.

    • Powell says:

      Interesting 1st topic IMO but we shall see.

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      When are all these “celebs of the moment” (Bethenny, Kris K, etc) going to realize that talk shows are not a good thing to do? How many of these shows really last past a season or two? Now we have Arsenio Hall (whom I happen to like) getting his second chance at a talk show….

      • Powell says:

        Talk shows are a good thing to do. Everyone shouldn’t do a talk show. Everyone wants to be the next Oprah & Ellen but just because they’re liked in one genre doesn’t mean they are liked in all genres.

  24. Iowagirl says:

    Where is this show airing?

  25. Cusi77 says:

    Hijole! Super great recap MelTheHound! Thank you, it is very much appreciated!

    If JoeGiu was worried because the fake DL issue… I can’t even start imagining how they must feel about facing 39 Counts and must possible jail time and leaving behind their 4 girls…

    Happy Labor day everyone! Don’t work too much today.Lolol! Besos!


  26. VV says:

    Joey Marco lifted the horse’s leg too!

    @HeatherMaclean: @JenGotClassNass I loved it but it was edited l like crap. Teresa & her brother both got the lifted the leg of the horse. Only Melissa didnt

    Original Message:

  27. VV says:

    @UncleRUSH: Kanye West performed at the President of Kazakstan’s grandson’s wedding for a small fee of $3 Million [PHOTOS]

    Original Message:

  28. VV says:

    The Crapfesto is up!!! TheCrapfesto is up!

    • plainviewsue says:

      And that is exactly what it is VV!! Hoping my post is posted. I truly think the woman is certifiably crazy.

      After all Jac has done to Tre: her never ending bashing tweets, blogs, DM’s, last season’s reunion, talking heads, why would Teresa ever trust or want to be near her?

      I know it’s for the show, but Teresa needs to stay clear of every single person on that show, except her immediate family.

    • Rebecca says:

      What is it, 6 pages of Jacqueline trying to defend her stupidity over the karma statement that Jacqueline REFUSES to acknowledge word for word? I call BS on the whole damn blog. I hope Jacqueline does catch her own karma.

    • windycitywondering2 says:

      Bravo is letting all comments post! Of course once they see that both Wacky and Kathy are not getting much love – things will be taken down, likes will be adjusted or wiped out. Last week, I had a comment taken down, so those who posted under it agreeing with it looked strange and out of nowhere. So everyone, be witty, be tongue in cheek and have some fun over there!!.

  29. not THAT Jill says:

    Gretchen said the Heather was the EPI-TONE of perfect….she is a moron!!!!

    • plainviewsue says:

      Watching the Lost Scenes, I am convinced that Gretchen is truly the stupidest of all the HW’s and that says a lot!!!

      • LavaLady says:

        My sister and I were watching together and our mouths just dropped open is astonishment when Gretchen pronounced epitome incorrectly. So funny. Wonder how long she has been doing that.

    • Orson says:

      I’m amazed she even heard the word. She must have read it somewhere which amazes me because she does not strike me as the sort of woman who reads anything other than those tags on clothing items that say the size.

  30. plainviewsue says:

    MTH, brilliant as always!!

  31. VV says:

    Here’s the quote from Wyatt about Richie making jokes.

    “This guy creates jokes so he don’t have to pay attention to how he feels.”

  32. lulu says:

    I’m SOOOOO excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who’s watching Tamra’s fantastically spectacular wonderfully bright and fresh fuzzy warm!!!! Who’s watching!!!!!! πŸ˜‰

  33. VV says:

    ZZZzzz ZZZzzz ZZZzzz Crapfesto is up!!! ZZZzzz ZZZzzz ZZZzzz Crapfesto is up!!!

  34. Laineylainey says:

    Hi Chismosa, you stated in another blog that you didn’t understand my red trench coat reference. In case you are not the only one who is wondering what i mean….Allow me to try to explain. Gretchen wore a bright red trench coat mini dress to go wedding dress shopping with Tamra. Some of us wondered why she would wear something like that…the consensus was that she wore that coat for attention. To be the center of attention when it was someone else’s turn to be the center of attention. Perhaps my metaphor was too obscure, I don’t know. If nobody gets it, it’s a metapfail, not a metaphor. It happens! Hahaha! So I joked that my LaineyGirl is me waving a red trench coat i.e. “hey, pay attention to me!” Cause I get so much Lynnfam love when LGirl does something cool-ish. βŒβ­•βŒβ­•βŒβ­•

  35. lulu says:

    Who here wants to come over and watch my wedding video??????????? πŸ˜‰

  36. NJBev says:

    Ok. Here it comes
    I agree with 95% of what you said.
    great post, I expect no less-

    She lost me with the horse. and those of you
    who know me, know what I am talking about.
    I was no less disgusted with Tre’s attitude toward
    the horse The phone call was a complete “plant”
    And I feel bad because this was the one time
    the 2 of them had every chance to come out on “top”
    Melissa, ugh. whew, what do I say? I was so profoundly
    disappointed in her. She is over it all, totally over it-
    But guess what Melissa?, that cameras are still rolling.-
    and the few of us who have had your back, continuously
    Are getting tired , too.
    I’m losing respect for you and Joe- and that has
    nothing to do with the level of disrespect I have for
    your SIL and BIL-

    I don’t have reading glasses on. so Lord only knows what I just typed!!!!

    • Laineylainey says:

      Hi NJBev – sometimes that is their only redeeming quality in my mind…they were so kind to you. That’s part of why I can’t completely hate’em. Hope all is well. Going to bed now, nighty night!

    • MelTheHound says:

      ON THE SHOW.. Let’s have that be clear. I don’t think either faction looked very good and I have been thinking that for awhile now. I can nitpick about who looked worse (notice I didn’t say. better) but it didn’t look to me like either one of them was willing to do the job they are paid to do. I still have my favorite and that’s the one I’m going to support but fact of the matter is, they are looking too much alike these days. This ‘family’ has imploded over tit for tat and I don’t see it improving any time soon because, speaking of horses, they are still beating the same dead one they have for the past (now) 3 seasons. I’m bored. Next. I have said repeatedly that I don’t believe anything I see on these shows nor do I believe the order in which it is presented. My deepest regret about RHONJ, since that’s one of the two I watch, is that I ever actually fought with anyone about these people.

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