Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E328 – Kill Me Now

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Note: I am going to do something here that I don’t normally do. In the recap that is. Yesterday some discussion was around about who pens Teresa’s show blogs. Chismosa likes to suggest that Heather, Teresa’s ghost writer, does that and a lot of other things. Honestly, I don’t care who writes these blogs so I called Chismosa on constantly bringing it up. Fact is, she isn’t the only one who does but I still went into attack mode on her for it. My who cares question hasn’t changed but the behavior was uncalled for and, for it, and to her, I apologize. It isn’t my intent to start fights here at the blog either with my recaps nor in the comments or make anyone miserable while being here. I went where, in these recaps, I’ve asked others not to go. So has NMD and I also apologize to her for forgetting myself. I will shred and thrash these HWs all day long but it was wrong of me to go after one of our commenters for doing the same thing I do. It isn’t the first time I’ve done that and I can’t promise it won’t happen again, but for this one, please accept the apologies.

Now, On with the show…

Here we are again folks. Episode 328 (15) of Crapfest 2013 and episode 313 of this dumbass therapy trip. For those of you interested, here is ClosetFreak’s recap of last week’s snooze fest, MeGo meets her long lost brother, Cracker the horse. Honestly, Bravo could have done this entire Arizona trip in one episode and just kept things moving along. I’m really bored with these people beating the same dead horse (no plot pun intended) that everything bad in their lives is Teresa’s fault. Get a new phuckin line already. For people that say they want to move on these are the grudge holdingest people I have ever seen. Once again, we’ll pretend everything here is real.

This week’s show opens at the end of whatever drama has just occurred. Baby Joey is having another of his little girl tantrums trying to prove to his wife and everyone else, that he’s a man. (I guess he failed to do that when he bit Joe’s balls and rubbed black kiwi shoe polish all over everybody.) I still question that notion however. Then we get to see what led up to his meltdown. We are taken 12 hours back to when Joey woke up his wife by sticking Tarzan in her face. It’s her birthday don’tcha know so it seems appropriate for these two to be shown, again, in bed. I guess her throat must be feeling better by now. It’s been a whole two days on morphine and antibiotics. That must have been some virus and those must have been some drugs to kill it so fast (yes, I know you can’t kill a virus with antibiotics and in fact, I believe, you cannot kill one at all.. Just treat the symptoms). Do you get the impression I don’t believe for one second this woman was sick? Very perceptive of you. Now, I don’t give a damn what anyone does in private behind closed doors, any time of the day. However, if you’re going to show me (Bravo), I’m going to say something about it. So, as Joey is wagging Tarzan in MeGo’s face, Teresa knocks on the door, or opens it, I don’t remember which nor do I care. She joins them on the bed and gives MeGo her birthday gift. A pair of see through black cover nothing drawers with a peace symbol in them. Yes, Teresa, we get the message, you are trying to make peace with your brother and his wife. Somehow I don’t think a pair of draw’rs with a sparkly gold 60s hippie symbol on the crotch is going to do it. Teresa says she’s not going to give MeGo a birthday kiss though. Please tell me that, Teresa did not see her brother’s pecker in MeGo’s face…. My question is, who were these really for? MeGo or Joey? I’ve heard he’s quite comfortable in women’s clothing when he is wearing a wig and heels. What’s on tap for the day? Get ready to roll your eyes MeGo, More Therapy…

The next scene we see is Rosie and The Whackilies taking a walk… Why? Is anyone really entertained by these people? If you are, I’m not passing judgement, God Bless and enjoy them on the show. Kathy is once again, complaining that she gets no respect from her two familial counterparts on the show. Rosie is upset that her sister doesn’t get any respect from them as well. In fact, she’s so pissed about it that she throws a couple water bottles (and misses) at what looks like a fire hydrant in the middle of the desert. I’m sure it was something else but the glimpse I got of it, that’s what it looked like. Maybe it was a gas well plug. Doesn’t matter. Good citizen Kathy goes and picks them up (Actually, I appreciate that she did that) because it’s wrong to litter. This scene ends with the two women deciding to get a drink and Richie going to join the other fellas to piss on everyone else’s relaxing stay at this place. You know, the ones who paid their own money so they could be there and didn’t have these asshats at Bravo paying for their stay. See NMD’s writeup last night for a good synopsis on Kathy’s time on this show. For an added bonus, check this out. Take it for whatever you think it’s worth. To protect our hostess though please don’t copy any of the text to this blog’s comments.

So next we see the two Joes, St Chris, and Dickie Richie at the pool. They note that there are others there who appreciate the quiet serenity of the place, a couple of whom, are also relaxing at the pool. One bit of truth that Dickie spoke, “These people probably come to this place to get away from people like us”… About then, Joe decides to check the water and Joey decides to push him in. I can’t complain too much about this as I believe pools are for fun and it’s probably something I would have done… Not pain in the ass people who would rather lay there like sardines on a beach to tan and scowl when they get a couple drops of water splashed on them. Oh holy hell… At a public type pool, somebody splashes water and is loud. Puh-Leeze. However, this drives one of the other guests back into the hotel. They then run their mouths some and that drives another guest back to her room. St Chris is just laying there too good to participate in any of the shenanigans while the cameras are rolling (planning his next scam- Seems that Bravo has re-edited the end of this season due to HIS legal problems. Seems this fight with ‘Johnny the Greek’ at KimD’s place will not be shown because the Lurkitas, including the phuck-nut, have their own bankruptcy legal issues they are struggling with….). Somewhere in all this, Joey makes up with Joe with a toast of sorts telling him he’s gained some new respect for him… Yeah, okay… I’ll buy that for a nickel. What I want to know is what was that green shit they were drinking?

Next we have to suffer the Manzos about to get a Massage or a face rub or some dumb shit like that. All I can think is I don’t want to watch anyone touch these people. We don’t see that though. What do we get instead? The two of them talking about Cracker The Horse. Let’s not forget now, Momz has written an advice book and that, as far as I can see, is her only reason for being on the show.. I still want to know what happened to Fran, Frito, and the Pig. The last time I saw Frito, he was giving his well thought out opinion of this show and being on it, as he pissed on the floor of the Manzo Mansion. They talk about Big Al being abused, and why he works so hard. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago. Momz won’t pop the nipples so Big Al has to keep at it to support those 3 leaches. Momz tried to pass the lie that Christopher has to make the choice between something (dumb) and eating a sammich… Does anyone believe that ever expanding fat oaf has ever gone hungry? Neither do I. Enough of these two jackasses and their bullshit nothing story line (what is it again?).

Okay.. Let’s move on. Where are we moving to? The ‘Zennis Court’ with the women. The Men have already mended things and are having their kumbaya party at the pool making sure that every guest who crosses their path, walks away completely disgusted… Bet you ritzy NJ ladies don’t have one of those  zennis courts in your back yard… The ‘therapist’ wants them to check their egos at the door. TH Jac says, these are Jersey girls. Not going to happen. There is about a 45 second tennis match between Teresa and Rosie, and MeGo and Kathy… The Point of this? Who knows? I sure don’t.

Let’s go walk a tight wire. In fact, let’s do it in pairs and walk two wires. That’s what these morons are doing next. This particular therapy session, in pairs, each person stands on a wire high above the ground, they are facing each other, helping one another to balance. They are on a harness secured by a rope in case they fall so don’t worry friends, no one gets hurt. Damn! That might have made it interesting. Maybe they can train Cracker the horse to do this bit and everyone can just stand on the ground beneath him hoping he doesn’t pee on them. Remember, that was MeGo’s fear was getting peed on by the horse. Maybe Teresa’s too. I don’t remember. Speaking of Teresa.. Have her lips been that big looking all season or had she recently had something done? At the tennis court, they looked huge. Anyway, Joey climbs up and Teresa follows, screaming all the way. The ever astute Rosie in TH says it’s a god damn wire. Worse that can happen is they fall. Yep. That’s our Rosie… Why is she on this show again? While T and J are up there, Dickie asks for a paint ball gun… (chuckle chuckle)… Still with the jokes, Rich… They get about 3 steps out before they fall off. As they are being lowered, Teresa had fun and wants to do it again. Don’t worry Tre, you’ll get your chance. While Pebbles and BamBam were up there, TH Joey said something that I hope he remembers tonight. He said that Teresa is fake and cannot admit when she is wrong and always pretends everything is fine (or to that affect) because that’s how she was raised. Remember that, Angel From God, the next time you look at your wife. Moving on.. Next pairs to try this exercise, Joe and Rosie (I like these two together actually), Kathy and Dickie, Chris and Big Al. Momz is afraid of heights and was crapping her pants at the idea of trying this. I don’t know what world F-Nut was lost in. BTW, I wouldn’t have done it either.

Now we get to the star attraction. Teresa wants to go again and she wants MeGo up there with her or MeGo decides to try and Joey wants Teresa up there with her. With a little coaxing, MeGo straps up and climbs the pole (I hear she has experience with that…. sorrry). This is where it gets good and that 4th wall really begins to tumble. While the two of them are up there, Joey gets a tweet… Something about how he met his wife or where.. That tweet, was sent by Penny (I think), 6 months prior. At least that’s what she said on Twitter as this scene was playing out. (if I am wrong about who sent it, please correct me). So now, the scene is set for the next 50 episodes. These outsiders wont leave Joey alone about his wife cheating on him. I have said this at least twice prior in my recaps… I think MeGo is a lot of things but cheater isn’t one of them. This usually comes at the end of my recaps but it fits best here. The comment of the night, goes to Sasha when she said “It should be obvious to Joe and Melissa that all the gossipers are trying to get a face shot on the show. All these accusations and no one has brought the proof yet.” It is not a particularly funny comment but there is no arguing with it. Let’s not forget, that everything the Gorgas have done since season one, is work for the same result. Face time on the show.

Let’s go to dinner and have some birthday cake. That’s why we’re all here, right? The highlight of this dinner was MeGo toasting and thanking everyone for being there. Everyone except Teresa. Snub or honest mistake? I say the former (stay with me here, this is getting good), there isn’t anything this famewhore does on this show that isn’t well planned out and scripted in her mind. BET THAT. After dinner they’ve chased everyone else out of the lounge area with their stench so they can continue their party. Momz has been running her mouth all episode but she’s right about one thing. If anyone leaves there with any hidden issues, they will be right back where they started and she ain’t doing this again. Yeah, we’ve heard that one before. Feed your kids, sip your wine, and STFU Momz. This brings us to the beginning of the episode. Joey, had previously told MeGo that he was getting these tweets saying that she’s a cheater. He still believes that Teresa is behind them. I still don’t get how but that’s the fact in his mind. MeGo just wants it to stop and everyone just drop it. As everyone is saying their piece, Joey, brings this up to Teresa, again. How SHE needs to fess up to her part in all the bullshit. I say that this guy should grow some balls and confront these people himself. In fact, he had his chance at the Milania party and stood there with a stupid shit eating grin on his face (as the Gorga plan was falling into place). Follow me here. Joey and MeGo are pleased as pigs in shit, that she is being talked about at all, good or bad. After about 47 times of denying any involvement, baby Joey has his school girl fit and throws his shot glass. Everyone gets in on the act. I’m not going to rehash what anyone said except to say that Joey was convinced, with Teresa, to go confront these people about their rumors and lies. At the end of the show, TH Teresa says she doesn’t know why she has to, none of this is of her doing. I almost forgot. During his tirade, MeGo kept telling Joey to sit down and STFU calling him a phucking idiot (according to the bravo edit).. You see, he was blowing her script. Acting too much trying to cover up what we learn next. I’m going to leave the show there until next week.

Apparently, confirmed by our hostess, NMD, this meeting between the Gorgas, Penny and her husband, happened two weeks BEFORE this Arizona trip. We see in the previews that this meeting does in fact happen(ed). Penny offers to show them something. What? I have no idea. Also on the preview, next week, Kathy has a product event, I guess to push her canoli kits, and no one shows up. Snubbed again… That ought to sit real well with Rosie. Jac is at a BLK marketing event (because the Lurkitas and the Manzoids are all wearing their team T-Shirts) talking about Autism. Truthfully friends, I could get behind her using this as a show platform if I learned anything about it. TheStoryOfLuvingWithAutism and Missusmc, I appreciate you both (and everyone else) sharing your experience and knowledge with us but I suspect that if I wanted the info, all I would have to do is ask and people would speak right up. I’m already aware that autism exists so I don’t need a drunken twitterholic on a shitty reality show to expand that awareness for me. So far, from the show, I’ve learned she likes to bleach her asshole and wax her hooha. As for these boyfriends of MeGo’s, see NMDs great blog about these criminals and join her in saying, Put up or Shut up.

WWHL Bonus

I normally don’t watch this show because I cannot stand Andy Cohen. However, with a former NJ HW as the guest, who might have some good stuff to share, I gave it a shot. Highlight of my viewing evening because the above shitfest wasn’t it. Danielle Staub was the only guest. She was also the first ever guest on the show (back when it was one night a week). Andy admitted to being shady to her back then. I didn’t see that show so I don’t know what they are talking about. We got an update on Danielle’s two daughters, one 15 and the other, 19 who is an international model (working). I have heard of the company before but I forget the one she was working for. Her house was sold, I think. Her thug pal Danny was actually a friend’s husband who was given face time on the show. She is no longer bi curious but isn’t completely closed to the idea either. She wouldn’t discuss divorce money issues because the ex is father to both of her girls and is still in their lives. I think I got all the small stuff out of the way here.

Andy’s mom is the bartender for the night and the drinking word is actually a recording of KimG saying hello. We review Danielle’s WWHL performance of her song with her lesbian lover, wazzername (no I don’t need to know what it was). The poll question is, which WWHL HW song performance was the best… Danielle, Kenya, LuAnne, KimZB (Kim won at 44%, Danielle had 24% or something like that, the other two split the rest). Danielle took Mrs Cohen’s son to task for stating that she was fired rather than left the show. She says it cost her opportunities. He denied ever saying that word and that it was a mutual decision that RHONJ wasn’t a good fit for her. She reminds him that it’s on the internet, which lasts forever. He sort of apologized to her for it..

We saw some of Danielle’s top moments on the show including the one with Grannytel calling her Square Tits. I always wanted to know where that comment came from and I always thought these two were pals. Danielle was shown a few past NJ HW guest spots on the show… Momz, Jac, and Teresa. She thinks Jac needs to put down the wine bottle because she is the most vile one of them all. Momz was shown saying she was sorry she went to the dark place with Danielle. Danielle said she can go jump into lake gofuckyourself with her half baked apology and I think she called Momz, a clown. Not sure about that though.. Teresa is the only one shown, NOT trashing Danielle, something she appreciated and felt was genuine. Take that all for whatever you think it’s worth. She says she has not had any contact with any of them since she left the show, Jac’s twitter rants aside.

THE Bomb that Danielle dropped however is something I thought I would never hear. That is, for S1 and S2, MeGo was hounding Danielle to help her get on the show. It was confirmed the two never actually met other than online on FB and email. Emails were forwarded by Danielle to production from Mego, promising to thrash Teresa in exchange for a spot on the show, for 2 full seasons, 1 and 2. BOOOM… Remember what I told Joey to remember about his wife when he was up on that wire with Teresa. Remember how we met the Gorgas… Go cry to your mama, Joey. Check-Mate, MeGo. Now, I tend to believe Danielle as I don’t think she gains anything by lying. I will leave you with this… It is still she said she said as to how MeGo and her Angel from God wound up on this show so of course, make up your own minds. This is the first time that’s ever been said out loud, by anyone connected to this show, other than Teresa. Note also, Andy didn’t deny it. Also note that the Marco klan, has been unusually quiet on Twitter as of late, including last night. My remaining question is, was this really live? If not, did it happen before the taping of the reunion? I would love for this cast of phucknuts to be hit with that little piece of information about how Teresa’s SIL and Cousin wound up on the show.

I’ll see you next week when more shit happens… Til then, Peace, MTH.

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272 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey – S5E328 – Kill Me Now

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. “Kill Me Now” MTH? I was reading this morn & NJ seemed painful. Well everyone have a great day.

    • Rebecca says:

      Good morning! I’m going to power through it but my guess is that by 11 am I will have wished I had stayed in bed.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Good morning, Powellypooh!! Have a great Monday, my people. Fake it til you make it!

  2. TexasTart says:

    MTH thanks for coming through for us again. I have to read the entire post a little later I am late for work! But you have already made me giggle by the ending: “I’ll see you next week when more shit happens.” It’s as if I could hear the deadpan delivery of that line. Be back later. Have a good day! 🙂

  3. Rebecca says:

    When is this show over?

  4. Iowagirl says:

    Solo glad I am out of the country so I don’t have to watch this s….

  5. VV says:

    It is possible Teresa sits down with a writer tells the writer how she saw an episode or that Teresa hands out a rough draft to somebody to edit snd mskes suggestions on how to tell her side. What is important is that SHE Teresa is getting across HER point of view across. IMO.
    Does the President of the United States writes his own speeches? We know they have speech writers. Does that make the content of the speech not his?

    There are people that are profesdional writers for the benefit if the listener or reader. There is nothing wrong with that.

    • Powell says:

      VV I think Tre writes her blog, then hands it off for editing. No biggie to me. As long as its their original thoughts. I like your comparison to the Prez & his speech writer(s). Not that it pails in comparison but we get the gist.

      • VV says:

        Thanks Powell! Glad you got the gist of it 😀

      • lori says:

        I think that’s what happens too.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        I think her ‘writer’ does way more than just edit it.
        Has Teresa EVER use a idiom or metahphor correctly when she is speaking? Yet suddenly with the use of two of her fingers and lap top she is the James Joyce of New Jersey?

        I think the blog reflects her sentiments and is a collaboration as a result but I don’t think Teresa types out a single word of it.

        • VV says:

          My comment was in reference to the ongoing feud on this blog about the issue of who writes her blog. I don’t care because I know the point Teresa wanted to get across for that episode got across. I doubt the point of view that we are getting is the “ghost writer’s” point if view. If you feel it doesn’t reflect Teresa’s sentiment that’s your right to feel that way as it is mine it does.

        • Sugarlump says:

          James Joyce of New Jersey! Love it! “Portrait of the Jersey Girl as a Real Housewife”!

        • tulsateacher says:

          James Joyce of New Jersey? Love it! “Portrait of the Jersey Girl as a Real Housewife”!

          • chismosa says:

            Lol!!!!!

            I have an “aunt” in Tulsa. I forget the name of the town – starts with a ‘C’
            Suburb
            I’ve been

        • chismosa says:

          I agree

          SHOCKINGLY

          Ps love James Joyce !

      • ITA. Teresa has a relationship with Heather because Heather helped get T’s books into shape for publishing. If she has Heather helping with her Bravo blogs – good for her!
        I hire people all the time to do things I can’t do and I suspect many people do as well. I am not a plumber, electrician, carpenter or designer – I hire them to make MY vision of whatever room and/or house I am renovating or remodeling to happen!

        • chismosa says:

          But writing is words — which we all as humans do naturally to express emotions and thought– I wouldn’t compare that to the other crafts/ craftsman you speak of

          I wouldn’t have a painter paint what I’m feeling.
          JM verrrrrrrrry HO

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Very true VV except that fully denies she has any one write or polish her blogs for her.
      The issue for me is one of integrity .

      • LaineyLainey says:

        The blog help is the least of her (and Juicy Joe’s) integrity issues. Just ask the feds. (mean, I know) but in the big picture this heather thing seems so small. If only that was the only point of question re: integrity for her…She wishes.

      • Rebecca says:

        Can you please point out where she has denied this?

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          She has said said it more than once. It was a big point of contention in last years reunion..and I also remember it was talked about in ‘her blog’. I can’t remember the exact words verbatim but it was along the lines of how offended she was that people didn’t believe she wrote her own blogs and reminded the reader that she ‘went to college’.

      • Powell says:

        RR I feel that’s just Tre not wanting to eggmit she has assistance w/her blogs. Whatever. Eggmit. Don’t eggmit. Maybe Bravo would not like it if she eggmits it. I think “Eggmit” should be added to Webster’s. 🙂

    • djprincessc says:

      Love what you said about Presidents, we know damn well they don’t write their speeches. Hell this one can’t even read his speech without a teleprompter!! lol.

      • ladebra says:

        “They misunderestimated me.:” – George Bush.

      • mkvalle says:

        so ridiculous to compare Teresa Guidice’s blog writing skills to the President’s speech writers. Get real folks, Teresa can barely form a sentence let alone write one. Nothing wrong with having a ghost writer, you all seem to enjoy her cookbooks so much and she doesn’t write that drivel either.

        I thought politics was verboten on here….Ladebra, yes George W Bush is an idiot, who like Teresa has a hard time forming sentences. The current President is a Mensa member compared to the two of them.

        • djprincessc says:

          I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to bring up Bush. lol. Let it go ppl! That was how many years ago now?? That idiot has been long gone and is now without a care in the world. Lets focus on the now and this current idiot.

        • VV says:

          Nobody is comparing Teresa to the President….For crying out loud…I knew this was going to happen….😳
          I didn’t know Obama was a member of Mensa. Thanks for the info.

      • Mrs Peabody says:

        Right on!

      • Orson says:

        Be fair. All of them since JFK have used a teleprompter. I’m not sure about Ike.

    • MelTheHound says:

      I say it is not only possible, I say that is exactly what happens. Want to stump the current WH occupant? Turn off the teleprompter. Does that make him an idiot? Well, I think he is but no, it doesn’t.

  6. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Great blog Jeff-I love how you started it with an apology to chismosa-anytime a person can eggmit that they may be in the wrong they gain more respect from me. Cool move my friend!

    I’m so over this stupid cheating story line. I wish they would fight about the real issues -like how Melissa and Joey got their spot on the show. I’m so over everyone pretending this cheating is an issue-who gives a shit if she cheated? I’m more concerned with the aspect of it beingTeresa’s problem that people talk about Melissa-how did they reach that conclusion? Why doesn’t dumb Joey ask the people who are talking what their problem is with his dumb wife? After all the crap from last years fashion show aren’t they a little curious about why these people are so hell bent on talking shit about Melissa? Wouldn’t anyone be curios as to why all these people have something to say? Do they think Teresa runs around asking people to do this? Can that be true? Penny and Jan are both doing this as a favor to Teresa? In exchange for being on the show? I don’t get it.
    I think the best part of last nights show was Melissa eggmitting that Joey is an effing idiot!!!!
    Daniell needs to release those friggen emails and let us all have a look at them-I don’t know if I believe everything she says but I do not see a reason as to why she would lie about it-I’m sure I could come up with plenty of reasons why Melissa would lie about her involvement though!!!
    I’m still not a big fan of Rosie but the videos with her and Joe on Bravo are the only good thing to come out of an otherwise stupid season!!!’

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      FYI-I’m typing on a mini iPad and the keypad is redic-forgive my typos…I’m sure there are plenty!! (This is kind of funny b/c I have just as many typos on my full sized iPad so I don’t know who I’m trying to fool with this disclaimer!!)

    • Powell says:

      JNNTJ Joey doesn’t confront those people cause he’s a wimp. One epi I believe it was said or someone said he’s connected. Now way. Besides trying to be macho & biting Joe’s privates, all he does is yell & mostly that’s directed towards Tre. He’s nothing but a wimp listening to his jealous wife.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        He is sorta wimpy isn’t he!!?!? But then he acts all kinds of aggressive with the banging and throwing things and screaming…all show and no go!!!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I imagine he fails to deliver in the bedroom, too. Those big talkers are usually overcompensating. Its the quiet ones you gotta watch. They don’t talk about it, they DO!!

          • lori says:

            1000% agree!!!

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Hi Lori,…I like it that you came out for that comment!!! Isn’t that so true?? Real men who are pleasing their partners ARE NOT bragging about it, they’re too tire from pleasing their partners. hahaha!! Who are getting it on the regular aren’t usu bragging about it either, because they want their lover/husband/partner to be their own well kept secret. “Don’t even think about my man. thank you.”

        • I LOVE COFFEE says:

          He even looked wimpy throwing the glass.
          Was it me or did everyone there looked bored to tears.
          They didn’t look shocked… surprise…mad.. when he threw the glass.
          I think they were all ready to get out hell of Dodge
          Or maybe they all smoked some “wild weed”

      • LaineyLainey says:

        What would happen if Tre acted the way Joey behaves? Throwing things, breaking things, screaming, etc. Granted she flipped a table and became a star (practically overnight)…sometimes I think Joey is trying to do his own “table flip”…you know they are constantly copying Tre. But they’re NOT JEALOUS or anything.

      • tulsateacher says:

        And he only acts that way when he is around people who will stop him. If he acted like a maniac around the wrong person he’d get his ass kicked on the regular!

    • Is there anyone else out there that believes that Joey and Mel just might have an open relationship or may even be swingers???

    • MelTheHound says:

      Great to have you back here, Jill. Glad you enjoyed your Glamping weekend and it sucks that you broke your iPad.. Don’t worry about the typos though, I never pay any attention to them as I read Bloglish quite well.

    • Buttercream says:

      Daniell is not a fool with her money. She may be withholding the release of all the evidence (e-mails, texts, tweets, what ever) she has to destroy MeGo/Kathy n her Crew in exchange for cold hard cash. Or better yet, to “pull a Lauri Peterson” move, come back on the show to expose and destroy MeGo and her sisters … for $$ of course!

  7. BB says:

    Good morning everyone. Don’t watch the show, don’t care about any of these people, and don’t care who writes what for whom. Can you guys tell I don’t care? I care about ya’ll though and hope you all have a great Monday!

  8. HuskerHuny says:

    What are three things I really dislike . . . it’s Monday, it’s early and it’s going to be 100 degrees around these parts. Trying to put my happy face on; mind over matter.

    I do like how Caroline stepped up and called them (Tre/Joey/Mel) out on their attempt to not recognize the elephant in the room, saying that if they don’t address it as a unified unit, it will come up again and the entire trip to Arizona will have been for nothing. Love her or hate her (as most of you do on here), I respect her for seeing this situation for what it is. A house divided cannot stand. I don’t think this family (Gorga/Guidice) will ever be able to overcome all of this, but Caroline is trying to get them to try and work it out. We’ll see . . .

    Having said all that, it’s time to RECAST this entire show. Get rid of the family issues and bring in women who are not related to each other, people who have not broken or cheated the law, educated people who live within their means and actually have interesting lives. People like that live in New Jersey, right? It’s time to put these sorry people out to pasture with Cracker the horse, who might quite possibly be the smartest one out of all of them!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Hey HH-the heat!!! I’m over the summer heat-we are supposed to be getting a heat wave starting tomorrow-it’s September -it’s supposed to be cool!!

      This season Caroline isn’t annoying me so much-it seems like she is trying to help these morons but I dont know if its b/c she has her advice book or b/c she really cares-if she helps them then it doesn’t matter why she is doing it. Sadly I don’t think these dimwitted folks understand a word she says…

      • tulsateacher says:

        I agree Jill. I really liked Caroline the first few seasons. Last season I just couldn’t stand her negativity and bad attitude. I do like her better this season and maybe I’m just jaded but I can’t help but think that her personality change does have to do with her book and the rumored spin-off for her family.

    • Powell says:

      Husker I have tweeted Andy for 2 seasons to get a new cast. He didn’t listen to me. 🙂

      • HuskerHuny says:

        A for effort Powell. I guess as soon as we stop watching then maybe they will get the hint. How desperate are these people for fame?!? Especially when it comes with so many family issues. Misplaced priorities.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Caroline should work out her own family issues with the siblings who don’t speak to HER. imo

      • windycitywondering2 says:

        Did you notice that Chris Lurker and his half asleep wife were not interested in Caroline’s attempt at therapy? ITA – if Caro worked on her own family problems (the Dina, Caro and Chris issue) maybe, just maybe she would get at least one more person to purchase her advise book….

      • HuskerHuny says:

        For what it’s worth, I don’t know for a fact that Caroline has not tried to work out the issues between her and Dina and I haven’t heard anything about Dina trying to work things out either. Looks like two wrongs to me as it currently stands. As for other Laurita siblings, I don’t have any first-hand knowledge of what’s going on with them so I can’t comment. I sure have heard a lot of surmising and second guessing though.

        When it comes to Teresa and Joey, they both reached out to Caroline and asked for her help. Was that staged by Bravo? Possibly, but it wasn’t Caroline who went to them.

        Families – hard to live with and even harder to live without. Hope everyone can work it out before it’s too late! Love to you Lainey!

        • MelTheHound says:

          I know that Momz wants us to believe that Joey and Teresa reached out to her to mediate but the way I saw it was the other way around. While Momz has acted as a go between and passed messages (that could have been passed on the phone), neither of them reached out to her for help. They agreed to accept it. On the show anyway. Teresa DID call Momz to go to Lake George after the Joes got into it.. The initial involvement though, all Momz’s doing.

        • tulsateacher says:

          Maybe I’m remembering it wrong (and that is entirely possible) but the scene where Caroline invited Joey for coffee she offered to speak with Teresa on his behalf. I don’t remember him asking her to do so. Now, he certainly didn’t tell her no but that whole scene seemed so unauthentic to me.

    • MelTheHound says:

      I think it’s time to just let the entire franchise die a deserving death. Good or bad, any future efforts are always going to be compared to the current one. To stand on it’s own, it will either have to be worse, or so much better that people will have the hand to face moment of that’s how it is supposed to be. I don’t think the reality HWs genre has that in them anymore, regardless of the case. This season is such total horseshit with the contrived drama and obviously out of place scenes, while we may watch, the trust or faith in any of what we see is gone, for good. That’s the way I see it anyway.

      • HuskerHuny says:

        You guys are right, my memory failed me. Yes, Caroline offered first when meeting with Joey. I remembered it the other way around. Joey did accept the offer and the meeting between Caroline and Teresa took place. But Teresa did call Caroline from Lake George to come up and help and she did. When she got there, Dr. V was already there so her help was not needed. At that point, Caroline stepped aside.

        Sorry for mispeaking and my failed recollection. In agreement with MTH in that this franchise has ran it’s course and it’s time to put it to sleep. Let these people fight their fights off camera. My guess is if the cameras go away, so will the fighting and that’s the best thing that can happen to this group of dysfunctional individuals. Ride off into the sunset and take your issues with you. Adios!

  9. VV says:

    Jeff your recap is very through this time. I don’t think Tre said she wanted Melissa to go up on the wires with her. I think this was dubbed in from a statement Tre had said earlier in the scene when she was going up with Joey. We saw Tres lips move saying the first time. The second time we heard it (it sounded exactly like the first time)
    Carolina could care less about fixing the Gorga feud. She loves to bring other people’s problems so she doesn’t have to address her issues and her family issues.
    Why didn’t we see Caro bailing out of the wire exercise?

  10. plainviewsue says:

    MTH, just so you know “Kill me now” is one of my number one phrases that I say!!!!! Thank you for titling your fabulous blog with it!!!

    No real comment, cos I simply agree with everything that you said. I thought Danielle was riveting during the second half of the show. I wish she had called out Caroline for the disgusting comment she had made about Danielle’s daughters having no light in their eyes. Lauren & Albie are two insecure sad people. Albie can’t be happy yet & Lauren will never be happy. Look at Lauren’s eyes. They are hollow.

    • VV says:

      My favorite line on the blog:

      “Baby Joey is having another of his little girl tantrums trying to prove to his wife and everyone else, that he’s a man. (I guess he failed to do that when he bit Joe’s balls and rubbed black kiwi shoe polish all over everybody.)”

      Had me LOL !!!

      I think when Danielle made the statement (paraphrasing) Is that all that Carolina feels bad about doing to me on the show calling me a Clown?
      Danielle was disappointed because the Don was more vile than that statement. Glad Danielle didn’t buy Caro’s BS she regrets calling Danielle clown.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        great comment, VV. I was impressed by Danielle last night.

      • MelTheHound says:

        Okay I didn’t quite catch the full clown statement and I watched it streaming online where I cannot rewind. I did get the gist of Danielle’s response to it though.

        Glad you enjoyed the recaps and what would New Jersey be without the announcements from VV, that the blogs are up? 😀

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Not only that, but Danielle’s kids were both minor children at the time. To me, that is a no-no. Especially when your adult children (fair game) are less than stellar themselves.

      • VV says:

        I wonder if that’s on Carolina’s book on advice. How to hurt your enemies: Say on National TV that your enemie’s daughters have no light in their eyes……..and by the way those daughters are two little girls/minors.
        DISGUSTING!

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          Caroline’s comment about Danielle’s girls was so out order . I think that it kills Caroline to admit that someone she views as completely beneath her such could successfully parent.

    • MelTheHound says:

      I agree PVS….

      When it comes to Momz and the kids on this show, the only ones who are off limits are hers.

  11. VV says:

    Warched previews and clips for next week RHONJ. Chris Laurita with his all innocent face is a major sh*t stirrer. The clip of him a little Joey. Why are these two close of all the sudden. My vibes tell me Don Caro gave order to Chris as if to keep an eye on theHirga household.

  12. Rebecca says:

    Dear Bravo,

    Basta! E chi se ne frega?

    Grazie.

  13. VV says:

    Zzz Zzz Crapfesto is up! Zzz Zzz Crapfesto is up!

  14. MTH!
    Thanks for the “mention”! LOL! I agree that Jac is really in no place to offer advice at this point. She is still at the very early stages of this MARATHON. I believe that by sharing her story, it has “maybe” enlightened people a little or made them think that autism only happens when your mom is a kook and twitter-holic. I will debunk this by saying I HAVE a twitter but have only posted about 5 tweets since opening my account several years ago! lol! I will say this, if I am looking for marital advice, I will go to someone that has been married longer than I have and has what I believe to be a strong relationship. If I am looking for parenting advice, I will go to other parents that have children that are older than mine. When I am looking for advice on autism, I go to experts and parents of children who have “been there, done that”. My hope would be that Jac is sharing her story to bring awareness and MUCH needed funding to this disability. Remember: more children are diagnosed with Autism than Juvenile Diabetes, HIV and Childhood Cancer COMBINED, yet only $169 million goes directly to autism research. This represents 0.55% of total NIH funding. However, I believe Jac is using this platform to further her relevance on the show. Again, thank you MTH for calling out Missusmc and myself for sharing our truth. For those that don’t know, My daughter is now 15 years old and was diagnosed with High Functioning Autism when she was 2 1/2. Her twin brother is typical development with no issues (uncommon since autism is 1 in 54 boys and 1 in 252 girls).
    OK, on to the show! One thing I have realized through watching these Real Housewives is I am a HORRIBLE judge of character! Everyone I side with comes back and bites me in the a$$. It seems as though Mel has been saying for so long that she has just wanted peace and harmony with this family, yet, actions speak louder than words. I do believe that Tre and Joey want to be close siblings and Mel just ain’t gonna share.
    I was in NYC this past weekend and saw Richie and Kathy…OMG! Let me say this, she is beautiful and much thinner in person on the TV. I imagine it is hard to stand next to Mel and Tre and look super skinny. Kathy is by no means skinny, but she is not heavy by anyone’s standards (but I wouldn’t want a runway skinny bitch making Canolis anyway!). I have gathered by watching this show that Richie is a bit of a pig…we can all agree there, but these two have managed to raise two pretty well adjusted young people (so far). I believe that speaks volumes. Just sayin’!
    I also fell a little in love with Al last week…just a little. It will fade. He was honest and real. Wyatt was a pretty perceptive guy and I don’t imagine he follows the blogs. Al’s childhood explains a lot of what has gone on in their home over the years. As I have always believed, we learn what we live. How you are parented molds you and effects you.
    Joey Joey Joey…time to lay off the juice. Roid rage is BAD and permanently damages you. He is a very obvious example. I am shocked that he has passed judgement on Juicy’s parenting of his girls when he himself exhibits that kind of rage on national tv. How believe behave in a public forum is only a small fraction of how they behave behind closed doors. That rage doesn’t go away when he is home with those little ones. Maybe Mel should get Joey to build a “safe room” in her new dream house instead of a studio!

    • MelTheHound says:

      You’re welcome TSOLWA.. I’m actually happy that you and missusmc decided to share your information. It’s great that your daughter is doing so well, too. In spite of my distaste for Jacqueline, I really do wish the Lauritas all the best with Nicolas. I hope they are able to find the key that unlocks his mind so he can shine to his full potential.

  15. I LOVE COFFEE says:

    Morning to all,

    Thanks Mel for the recap. I’m sorry this must be getting hard for you……no laughs…no humor

    I don’t care how M got on the show. Season one was Caroline, Dina, Jac., Danielle, and T. They probably all help each other get on the show. Don’t other HWS get friends and family on(Richard sisters) the shows.

    I personally think these shows are scripted and edited and they all know this going in. They all want to be on tv and become famous no matter what it does to the families. Fame is the most important thing to all of them.

    I say all is fair in love and war and reality tv. The “acting” like they hate each was bad this season. They all look like Zombies doing and saying what they’re told.

    I don’t hate T or M. But I have this need to start calling T some of the awful names that M is called on here. I get all the stupid, dumb, sneaky, creepy, disgusting, douche bags etc..

    I even get the Famewhore. I just don’t get calling a woman or man that Whore word. Why?

    As bad as the cast are they don’t use those words…..wait….T called Danielle a whore……Joe called his wife a c*nt…….Never mind. I get it.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hi Coffee….the whole cast DOES call each other horrible names. Quite often!! They all use horrible language, but you have only heard Tre and Joe using vile words? Or at least those were the examples you chose to use. You have no memory of Rosie, Richie, Kathie, Joey G, Jac using vile language, or making off color remarks…using vulgarity? That’s interesting to me. Are you a fan of Melissa’s? You may not care how Mel got on the show, and most people don’t care, but some of us do care that she has been lying all along about her motivation and tactics for getting on the show. She wanted to make her sister in law look bad. Danielle said she wanted no part of that (on wwhl.) Nobody cares that she’s there, that’s not the point, but SHE sought to be on the show to hurt her sister-in-law. At least that’s Danielle’s version of it. She wanted to film with Danielle when Danielle was a castmember (and Mel was not) to get back at her sister-in-law. That’s the crux of the Melissa issue for many of us. She initially lied repeatedly about how she got on the show. She looked straight into the camera and lied about the shoe polish on her husband’s dome. She egmitted it later, that she had lied about that. She lies quite easily. Sometimes she gets caught and sometimes not (I’m sure). When you are under the reality microscope, you may as well own your behavior, because it will be uncovered or as Danielle said last night, you will eventually reveal the truth about yourself. Just ask Tre and Joe, with the 39 indictments. Not hating on them or Mel,…just saying… we probably shouldn’t take things they say and do too personally.

      • Cusi77 says:

        “Thanks Mel for the recap. I’m sorry this must be getting hard for you……no laughs…no humor”

        C’mon COFFEE, I had a blast with this recap! I am still laughing! Thanks MelTheHound! You made my day!!!! Haa!

      • I LOVE COFFEE says:

        Hello LL,

        I remember Rich using words that were vulgar. NJ isn’t my favorite HW show. I have tried to like it …but it’s just not there. If Danielle did release the e mails on M I still don’t know if I would care. I don’t believe anything that comes out of T’s mouth. T saying that M took her brother away from her shows me she isn’t innocent in all the family drama. I guess she never heard the old saying.

        Your son is your son
        Till he takes a wife
        Your daughter is
        Your daughter for life

        I don’t think Joey married a woman like his mom
        He married a woman like his sister

        T and M both married men named Joe
        Both married men who are short and look like they juice.
        They both act and dress like NJ girls
        Both love fame
        And I think they both LIE.

    • Powell says:

      Coffee yes all the HWs help each other get on the show. On an existing city (A) suggests (B), (B) says ok but you know (C) might be good too. For a new city (A) reads about it in the paper or a producer hears about (A) & says do you have any friends that may be interested & (A) says yes (B)(C)(D). Before S1 Tre didn’t want any other family members involved & that continued S2. So Mel went behind Tre’s back after unsuccessfully getting Bravo to pay attention to her so she pestered Danielle. Did Mel sincerely sit down w/Tre & discuss it like intelligent women? Probably not. So I understand Tre being upset that they went behind her back to get on. But since they got on I think they should have sat down as an intelligent family & said “ok it is what it is. Let’s do this as a united family” but they didn’t. I think if they had gone that route Tre, Mel & Kathy could have parlayed it into their own non-Bravo show. Tre & Kathy are great cooks. I could see them doing cooking segments together. Tre & Mel are into fashion, hair, makeup. I could see them doing fashion segments together. The 3 of them could have had something special.
      I’ve never seen a SIL, cousin show on HGTV, DIY, A&E. They screwed up a huge opportunity.

      • kendo says:

        Kitchen Cousins, Cousins on Call. The 2 hot Italian cousins on HGTV.

      • MelTheHound says:

        I agree Powell, if these people wanted to be on a reality show together, they have blown the opportunity to make themselves all look good. Who knows what they could have done. MeGo and Kathy are lucky they’re rich (for now) otherwise they would be getting fitted to hats at their new careers at McDonalds.

      • I LOVE COFFEE says:

        I agree most families would have sit down and discuss it.

        That being said, that’s not the reason they hired M and K.
        if we are to believe that M and Joe promise to give T hell
        They did what they said they would do
        I think T and M have done what Bravo wanted them to do – feud
        If T was so upset about it she could have left the next season
        These people will do anything for FAME
        She was willing to stay and feud with her fambily

        IF….. and I do mean me IF Joe and M really thought they were going to hurt T
        They were WRONG
        She’s more popular than EVER

        We will Never know the real truth. They have probably signed there lives away to Bravo.

    • MelTheHound says:

      I even get the Famewhore. I just don’t get calling a woman or man that Whore word. Why?
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Because it’s a famewhore is just one type and sometimes at 4am with 3000 words on the screen, it’s easier to abbreviate it. During chat it’s just faster to type the word. I am sorry my recaps of an offensive show offend you so much but I never said I was going to be nice to these people. I have also never made it any secret that I like Teresa on the show. Anyone who can do better, Please, by all means, have at it. What I did say is that I would call them as I see them. Call Teresa whatever you like but it seems petty playground to me to do it just because the others are called names.

  16. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Still raining here in AZ. It is lovely. Weatherman says 3 more days of rain. Thank you MTH for your recap! I watched Boardwalk Empire last night. I will catch up tonight. Loved that Danielle coughed up the info on Mel and Joey. Fame whores have been confirmed. As for the criminal boyfriends. I agree. Either put up or shut up.

  17. cdnfillie58 says:

    RHNJ brings out the worse in a lot of people on this blog. Don’t understand why some take These people actions towards each other as a personal insult .. It’s a reality show about people you don’t know or will likely never know. I’ve enjoyed this blog tremendously .. But I think I’ll skip through it if it references anything New Jersey from now on. Have a great week everyone

    • LaineyLainey says:

      You have a great week, too cdnfillie58! I’ll have to read some of the posts to see what you consider to be the worst in a lot of the people on this blog. I might be one of those people, so…um…..sorry?

  18. Cusi77 says:

    Good Morning Everyone!

    Thank you MelTheHound! I am still laughing with your comments H.y.s.t.e.r.i.c.a.l !!! My hubby came to check on me thinking I was crying! I couldn’t explain I was not crying… he figured it out I was reading The NJ Blog from last night Episode! My favorite part was Big Al and Momz … Hahahah! After all they can entertain us!

    I loved every second of Danielle’s comment how she got contacted by Melissa… That was Juicy!

    My respects to you for apologizing publicly to Chismo. (Y) (Y) (Y)

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Dang!! I still need to read it….at work, can’t do it now. Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture. But I can sneak in comments. LOL!!

      • VV says:

        There is no denying that Wakiles and Gorgas were close before RHONJ.There is no denying they both kept a secret from Teresa that they had joined the show. I never trusted Ksthy, those froggy eyes don’t fool me.

        • windycitywondering2 says:

          I am under the impression that Rosie wasn’t in on the teaming up of the Wakiles and Gorgas since she got lost going to the Gorgas let’s bash Teresa brunch. Kathy picked sides in a sibling situation that was definitely none of her business and she has done nothing positive to get them back together! Yes Kathy there is an opportunity pie but the only part of it on your face is egg.

    • MelTheHound says:

      Hi Cusi 😀 It always makes me happy I can make you laugh 😉

  19. VV says:

    Now that we know all the back work Melissa did to get on the show. Well, actually we already knew she was a snake, Danielle just confirmed it got the doubters. What about Kathy? What was Kathy’s role? How did Kathy get on the show? How did Bravo cast a hairdresser?

  20. VV says:

    Let’s see how much the love affair between these two last.

    Naughty But Nice Rob (@NaughtyNiceRob) tweeted at 10:58am – 9 Sep 13:

    I loved @Bethenny first show! What a fun hour. (https://twitter.com/NaughtyNiceRob/status/377098651526758400)

  21. TexasTart says:

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  23. rabblerouser2010R says:

    I am think I am completely over New Jersey (the show- not the state).

    I already knew that a lot of the drama was producer driven but last night took it to a whole new level.

    I get how Teresa supporters are tired of Teresa being blamed for everything but I am starting to become increasingly puzzled as to why that should mean that Teresa (and Joe Gu) shouldn’t be accountable for ANYTHING…namely their 39 count indictment.

    I’ve seen in mainly other blogs how Monica C is coming under fire…or posters accusing Melissa, Joey and Kathy for turning her in to the Feds….all based on innuendos or pictures of Monica at public events with them years prior. If that’s all the evidence someone needs to accuse family of that level of betrayal….no more strong than all the ‘evidence’ that Teresa was behind stripper gate or the cheating rumors.

    I feel like this entire franchise is about to head over a steep cliff.

    • MelTheHound says:

      Rabble, I don’t think anyone is saying that the Guidice’s shouldn’t be held accountable. In fact, I am on record as saying they should. I have also said that I will let the courts decide their fate. What I haven’t liked and don’t like, is the celebration of the news they’ve been indicted. Of course I only speak for myself here.

      • Powell says:

        MTH I get what you’re saying about the media coverage looking like a “celebration” of the indictment. However the monetary crimes in our country continue to become more crazy, more outrageous. As far as we have seen or know the Guidice’s haven’t committed crimes comparable to Bernie Madoff or even Martha Stewart but when you live a certain why on national tv you’re shining the light on yourself & we as taxpayers have the right to see what is going on when our tax dollars are being used. So if reality tv “stars”, CEOs, celebs or anyone else tries to play us for fools, use our system for their own monetary gain I wanna know about it.

        • MelTheHound says:

          I am not talking about the Media, Powell.. I am talking about right here. Our little corner of the internet.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I understand where you are coming from…and I know that people shouldn’t relish in anyone else’s ‘misfortune’ but I think most people do want to see the guilty (or those they feel are guilty) punished. I personally wouldn’t any stratification our of seeing Joe go away for a long time..or Teresa..or Joe being deported.

            But at the same time, if I woke up tomorrow and learned that Casey Antony got hit by a Mac Truck, it would make me smile…so I don’t feel like I have much room to talk.

    • VV says:

      That is FW blog. I happen to think that blog is well documented and researched.
      When Fame writes them. I don’t think they are excusing the Giudices at all. They do offer compelling arguments against their enemies.

    • T-Rex says:

      RRouser, no one “turned” them in to the Feds, don’t care what anyone is spewing. They Juicy’s willingly filed Personal Bankruptcy in the Federal court System, they lied on those documents as to their monetary funds and status of funds. They lied under oath in the court hearings, then the Trustee brought to the Courts attention that the Juicy’s withheld information. The Juicy’s lawyers quickly withdrew the petition, “with prejudice”(meaning can’t file again for whatever time the court deemed it’s usually two years). Once they did this, a Federal investigation is automatically started. Now at this time JuicyJoe was being sued by a partner for Fraud, and he had criminal charges related to the DUI and the Fraud from the Driver’s license issues, HUGE RED FLAGS, the Feds don’t play, they take that information and dig, dig, dig. They take supreme pride in taking down public figures, especially if those public figures actually committed a crime. That idiot Lawyer couldn’t do anything more than turn over the “already public” issues regarding her case, because if she turned any other information over, there could be serious attorney-client privilege issues. Now, with that being said when the Juicy’s first filed and I gave Lynn copies of the documents, I had already found the information regarding the Fraud lawsuit with the former partner. Found it the Same Day, so if I could find that, don’t you think the Feds already had that information? I know that the IdiotLawyer wants her 15 minutes as well, but don’t buy her bullcrap. I don’t buy for a minute, any one needed to, or did turn over incriminating evidence on the Juicy’s that the Feds didn’t already have access to.

      • Powell says:

        T-Rex I don’t believe her bull crap either. A to Z the Feds don’t play.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        Hi T Rex,

        I agree, Although, I am sure Monica would have been more than happy to hand over any documentation she had to the Feds..I don’t think she got the ball rolling. …and even if she did… people are allowed to report crime.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I have never seen anyone here say/write they (the Guidice’s) shouldn’t be accountable for ANYTHING. Have you really literally seen that? Or do you just feel that people aren’t mad enough about the 39 count indictment. I’m plum wore out, so I’m not mad, per se,…but i believe if they’re guilty of fraud they should be brought to justice. I don’t want to say much about the bankruptcy, but there are hardworking people who had the misfortune of trading with them and didn’t get paid….etc…goods and services they used and never paid for,…but I’ll stop with that, because there are many folks who through unemployment, illness, etc are forced into bankruptcy, etc. But if I really think about what Tre and Joe and Jac & Chris….I can get really worked up into a self-righteous tizzy, you know, because WE PAY OUR BILLS, dammit,…I feel like we pay and pay and pay….but I just haven’t got the energy to get worked up about it right now.

      Plus if that’s all we talked about right now…that would get boring really fast. Talking about how Joey throws glasswear at the wall, how he bites men’s balls, how Mel can’t sing, how Tre has a ghost writer, how kathie smirks, how gross Richie is, etc….that’s just more fun for now. When the Guidice’s go to court, all of that day to day petty stuff will take a backburner, I’m sure.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        RR-I have seen people say things like that too-on other blogs. People are saying that they are not as bad as some”real” criminals…etc. I get what you are saying girl!!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I was replying to the idea that RR put forth that perhaps some feel that the Guidices shouldn’t be accountable for …ANYTHING. I would get it too, if she had said what you said that some people on other boards are saying that they are not bad as some “real” criminals I would get that too.

          But that’s not what she said. She said

          “I get how Teresa supporters are tired of Teresa being blamed for everything but I am starting to become increasingly puzzled as to why that should mean that Teresa (and Joe Gu) shouldn’t be accountable for ANYTHING…namely their 39 count indictment. ”

          I have never seen that here or anywhere, really. So that’s what has ME puzzled. Who said that they shouldn’t be accountable for ANYTHING …namely their 39 count indictment? Where? When their trial comes around I think we’ll hear more about folks’ real feelings re their 39 count indictment. If we’re not bringing it up everyday now, I don’t think it means that we don’t think they should be held accountable.

          I’m repeating myself now. sorry. 🙂

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            I think she was talking about seeing that talk on other blogs-like the super pro Teresa blogs…I could be wrong…but since that never happens I’m sure I’m right!! (It sounds so crazy that people are so pro anyone that they think they should get away with 39 counts but I have seen comments that say that!)

            • rabblerouser2010R says:

              Yes, exactly…I was thinking about another blog when I wrote my comment and some particular comments where there so much anger and fury directed at Monica…not to mention the Gorga’s and the Walkie’s that pretty much blamed them for the Fed’s coming down on the Guidice’s.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            Hi Lainey…
            I’ve seen comments peppered across the internet that suggest that Monica should loose her license for ‘breech of confidentiality’. because the commentator is so angry about her claim of involvement,

            I’ve literally seen comments where Joey, Melissa and the Walkies are having the characters dragged through the mud..not because of things they have actually said or did but because it was implied they might have given the Guidice’s up to the Feds. I’ve also see a comment where someone pretty much said that they will be punished by God for it.

            To me, that is blatant blame shifting. The Guidice’s are the ones who got themselves into this mess yet there is some folks acting like the Guidice’s are the victims of betrayal.

            • MelTheHound says:

              IF these people are called upon to testify before the grand jury, they are doing so under oath. Swearing to tell the truth. IF that is what has happened and tell the truth is what they did, I Have no problem with it.

              • rabblerouser2010R says:

                The Guidice’s own signatures and words will be the most damning things said against them. Essentially, “Yeah, I signed my partners name on a loan application…but everyone does it’. isn’t really a good legal defense.

            • LaineyLainey says:

              Ok, yes YES!,…I have seen some comments that lean in that direction OK, I get it now, it’s like the underlying message is they never would have been caught if someone hadn’t ratted them out. Which is ridiculous, imo, btw. Betrayed or not, they will have their day in court. The Feds didn’t pull this out their bums and if there was nothing to “narc” about then they wouldn’t have been supposedly betrayed. Bottom line is… It’s not good. The indictment, their prospects, it’s not good. It can’t be good. Martha Stewart with all her millions to fight the feds, had to do her time.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          🙂
          I was thinking about you this morning as I was getting my girls off to school knowing that you are in the same boat.

      • Powell says:

        Lainey the Govt started personal & biz bankruptcy for a reason. There are legit individuals & biz that need it. I’m glad you mentioned the bills-businesses that didn’t get paid. It’s a trickle down affect. The company doesn’t get paid, employees don’t get paid, laid off, no insurance, no benefits, have to apply for unemployment, fed benefits, etc. People don’t pay their bills, their taxes, so many other’s lives are changed in a negative way. It’s not right or fair.

    • Powell says:

      I’m not a Tre supporter. Not a RHONJ supporter w/this crew. From the last season I watched 2yrs ago, from here, other blogs, & mag posts I don’t like that Mel & Joey blame all the family issues, all the SIL issues, all the BIL issues & all mama & poppa Gorga issues w/Mel on Tre. If the Feds have evidence against Tre & Joe, later Chris & Jac, all the celebs we keep hearing about evading paying their taxes, all the Wall Street crooks, etc. etc. etc ., they deserve whatever punishment the Govt sees fit. If our Govt has laws & rules in place & I have to & Di abide by then as a tax paying law abiding citizen then every GD person is thus country has too also. No ifs, ands, or buts.

  24. kendo says:

    Heard a poll over the weekend that New Jersey has the lowest divorce rate in the US.

  25. LaineyLainey says:

    I’m reading it now…I’m on lunch and have to laugh at this one…”Momz tried to pass the lie that Christopher has to make the choice between something (dumb) and eating a sammich… Does anyone believe that ever expanding fat oaf has ever gone hungry? Neither do I. Enough of these two jackasses and their bullshit nothing story line (what is it again?).” Even AL LOOKED AT HER LIKE: “sCUSE me? What? He has to choose between a haircut and a sandwich? I DON’T THINK SO, DON!!” His eyes said it all.

  26. VV says:

    Will Joey blame Teresa for Andy having Danielle on WWHL last night days before Melissa’s book is due out and Danielle revealing his wife manipulative ways?
    Is Joey mad at Andy or will he once again somehow blame Teresa for Danielle’s appearance on WWHL last night?

    • Rebecca says:

      I don’t care so much what Andy thinks of Joey anymore (for proving Andy a fool for his undying love) but what I really want to know is what Andy thinks of bitchy Richie who called Andy some nasty names on twitter a couple of weeks back. Yes he used the dreaded f-word.

      • VV says:

        Since every time somebody talks bad about Melissa, Joey blames Teresa. I want to know if Joey will blame Teresa for Andy having invited Danielle on his show.
        That was my poorly written point above.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I think not. Wait, I do think in general, but I don’t think that anyone will blame Tre for Danielle being invited to wwhl.

      • plainviewsue says:

        Didn’t see those Rebecca. Don’t follow Richie. Assuming he deleted them by now. What a prince.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        What??? This is the first time I heard this. I wonder if anyone got a screen shot of it.

        I only heard about a ‘shark getting eaten’ comment the day of the reunion…which seemed to have disappeared.

        • Rebecca says:

          @wakilemustgo

          It’s so offensive, I woul dnever post the tweet here.

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            Well hopefully Andy has seen or heard about it. Too bad it came after the reunion (from what gather) or I could have enjoyed Kathy being asked to explain her husbands comments…just like how it’s done to Teresa.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Very interesting that Danielle’s being on WWHL just days before of Melissa’s book release. I am sure if the book tanks (and I expect it will) that it might get brought up as reason for it’s failure…”I was called a gold digger, a stripper, a cheater and a bad SIL, that’s why no one bought the book”.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        I don’t get why she did a book on marriage. She’s practically a newlywed (well, I say that cause I’m old, prolly),…but she should have done, I don’t know smokey eye makeup? Little Karaoke thingies, cute clubwear for 20 somethings? A fitness book?

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          How to break into the music biz…without the ability to sing?

          How to get new breast and get some random guy to pay for it?

          • LaineyLainey says:

            I’d buy it if she taught me how to get someone else to pay for a tummy tuck!! LOL!! Well, nevermind, I know what that entails and um…let’s just say, I don’t have that kind of talent? You might catch me on a good day, but just not prolific enough to earn a tummy tuck. LOL!!! bad lainey, bad!!!! vulgar lainey!

      • MelTheHound says:

        She was all those things before WWHL with Danielle. I doubt anyone who doesn’t know who these people are, were watching WWHL last night. Try again MeGo.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          I don’t see too many folks who would want to buy this book…but assuming it fails the blaming will resume.

          Someone posted another excerpt from the book..this time where it discusses more of their marriage and when I got to the part where Melissa said that Joe needs sex with her 3-5 times a week to feel respected…I about wretched…

  27. windycitywondering2 says:

    Well Jeff, it takes an extraordinarily grounded (or jaded?) individual to recap a franchise full of fame seeking, family ruining nutjobs! And without humor, this is just an exercise in futility because the storylines are just too farfetched and defy logical comment. So call it the fifth wall, we are at a disadvantage of knowing too much about their lives off of the show and because too many of us see through the manipulations of the producers. If I don’t see something being said and that individual’s mouth at the same time – it is likely not true!

    As for Joey, the man, Gorga – if his wife won’t defend or confront those who gossip about her or see the need to defend her reputation, then no one else should either. And last night Joey was more concerned about what people were saying about HIM than about his wife. Teresa isn’t he only one who knows how he met his wife but he has to blame his sister or his wife will make his life a living hell. As for those who are “seeking their 15 minutes of fame” with the answers to Melissa’s cheating rumors – I say go for it because that is exactly what Melissa did to get on the show!

    IMHO, Teresa has cleaned up after that odious raging toad of a brother his whole life. Teresa has tried twice to stand with Melissa and confront her attackers, which is two times more than anyone else has done. This storyline is lame and boring and Teresa won’t be vindicated because of the violent behavior by three cast members at what was to be the finale of this season. Bravo had to scramble after Bulldog wouldn’t allow himself to be part of the cheater storyline. Now Penny will have to put the blame back on Teresa even after she said at the launch party that Teresa had nothing to do with it. Seriously, I am all for the truth coming out and for resolution of this storyline but I am not stupid and I know when someone is shoveling manure at someone else’s expense.

  28. Amalfi says:

    I think of my job as a mother is to raise young people who have been equipped with what they need for success (education, independent spirit and willingness to work hard, etc) when they live their own lives independent of their parents.

    Until Caroline can do that, she has no businesses discussing Danielle’s kids lack of light in their eyes, the Guidice kids’ sense of sadness and overexposure, etc.

    No one is going to buy your crap book, Caroline, and those who do probably deserve it.

  29. Powell says:

    Guess what I’m watching? The 5 yr marriage lie heard around the world. Miami. I’m gonna pay closer attention.

  30. lulu says:

    Hello everyone!!! Dh took governor to the halloween shop. Governor picked out this huge plastic caveman hammer. So what does he do he thinks its hysterical to stomp our feet with it. Thanks DH!!! It scares to crap out of the dog though. 😉

    Thank you MTH for an awesome recap!!!! When any of the “hw’s” stare into the camera to deliver a line you know their fake. Meho does this lots of times joego is too stupid to, I always wonder if he knows where he’s at sometimes. Their only story is to get Tre to “apologize” its getting old!!! Is hurricane Sandy their fault too? Or wait for meho’s autotune fail??? This franchise HAS to move on or recast!!!

  31. Powell says:

    Didn’t pay attention before but when Lea has her designers in the ballroom look at her dress & how it fits. She has on a wrap dress. There is a right way to wear a wrap dress. The queen & innovator of the wrap dress Diane Von Furstenberg wears them a lot. Look at how she wears hers. If you don’t have lots of boobs like me you either have to have a snap added to the top to make sure you’re covered or you have to wear a top underneath. If you have larger boobs but not perky boobs or the correct bra you see to much unflattering cleavage & that how Lea looks. She needs new bras, a breast lift or just shouldn’t wear wrap dresses. You see too much of Lea’s non-supported boobs. Not attractive.

  32. TexasTart says:

  33. TexasTart says:

    Clothes?! A skinny Nene?!

  34. AZGirl says:

    I read the time lines again by NMD and FameWhorga and I am just disgusted. Obviously, Mel and Joey friend in production pissed off a lot of people in the finale last season. Even though Mel’s friend is gone from production it happened again with the fight at Kim D’s opening. I am so done with the BS. Penny is the source and hopefully this stupid storyline about Mel cheating is done.

  35. Mene Seela says:

    So many interesting posts and comments!

    Little Joey Gorga reminds me of a nasty little Chihuahua. All that yapping, teeth baring and snarling.
    I wonder…. if Joey had the chance, would he lick Jill Zarin’s nostril?

  36. TexasTart says:

    Haven’t viewed it yet…so not sure if worthwhile

  37. TexasTart says:

  38. TexasTart says:

    I was going to save this for RHOM chat, but I am still having tech issues and won’t be able to chat like usual. 😦 Apparently it’s Blacks Ball tonight – and apparently The Bravo Mistress was there. Here are her pics. ** Warning! Major boobs and close pairing of boobs….just sayin. Also there is someone that looks like a male version of Lea….or is it just me??! CACKLE

    • LaineyLainey says:

      wait, who used whom?

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        That’s the question I would like the answer to… I always said they were using each other.

        • Cusi77 says:

          Lainey and JNNTJ, I REad the comments and I came across to this one, I found it very interesting and drag it to here:

          SatchesofGold says:

          September 9, 2013 at 11:39 am

          I am LMAO at Brandi calling Lisa a user.

          Is this the same Brandi, who used Cedric to generate interest and controversy and capture the producers atention and make it into the RHBH?

          is this the same Brandi who used Adrienne to be accepted in a circle that was closed to her for her link to Cedric?

          Is this the same Brandi who used Lisa and dumped Adrienne at the drop of a hat because Lisa was more popular and willing to take her under your wing?

          Is this the same Brandi who has used Lisa to become a full time Bravo HW and who used Lisa’s popularity and influence to sell the sappy story of her being sued by the powerful Maloofs?

          Is this the same Brandi who now has found a new friend, just as rich and likeable as Lisa, so now Lisa becomes disposable?

          I wish I could laugh at Lisa’s stupidity because a blind person should had been able to see that Brandi can’t be trusted but I just hope that Lisa wasn’t fool enough to reveal any of her personal secrets to this harpy or the world for sure will know.

    • Mene Seela says:

      Brandi needs to a job. Not one this is on tv either.

  39. TexasTart says:

    Yo! Don’t waste your time with BBB! I’ll bet this is just TALK.

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