Real Housewives of New Jersey Finale and Teresa and Joe’s interview

Real Housewives of New Jersey – What Happened to the Big Fight? by NMD

Unfortunately, when MTH’s head exploded and he couldn’t take another second of NJ, so you’re stuck with me as your blogger.

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-gallery-episode-518-01We start the finale evening where we left off, in the Salon.  Penny and Teresa are having a little fight.  Teresa’s voice is all squeaky.  I don’t really know what to believe – is Penny really ratting Teresa out or is it editing?  If she is ratting Teresa out – is it because she’s been asked to by Joey and Richie?  There are many lies going on and it’s hard to keep them all straight.

They continue to fight.  They talk a lot about texteses.  Both of them.  Hilarious.  Best part of the episode.

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-gallery-episode-518-04Oh s$it.  In comes Johnny the Greek.  It’s his first appearance and he looks a little uncomfortable as he delivers his pre-set lines.  He gets about 15 seconds of air time to throw Teresa under the bus.  I hope it was worth it.  By the looks on everyone’s faces, they know what is supposed to happen – everyone except Teresa – who looks absolutely confused.  She hears her name and gets really upset.

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-gallery-episode-518-05Then all hell breaks loose and we fast forward through the fight.  Aren’t Joe and Teresa cute hiding from action?

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-gallery-episode-518-06Now Caroline is screaming at KimD – “Are you happy what you’ve done to this family.”  The rumor is that she’s actually yelling at Penny, because Penny was trying to spread gossip about Al cheating with someone named Jill.

This footage seems to be much later in the evening because you can see Joey and Melissa in the background all calm and normal.  Or maybe it took place before the fight.  It doesn’t really matter.  Johnny and Penny are gone – hopefully we’ll never see or hear from them again.  Now that Jan has come out on FB (allegedly) and said that Melissa was behind getting people to bring the “cheating” story to the show, I’m beginning to wonder if the whole thing was just fake fake fake for ratings.

Joe is still there and yelling – now he’s yelling at Teresa asking why her name is always coming up.  Let me stop and say to Joe that Teresa’s name is coming up because you and Richie asked Johnny and Penny to throw Teresa under the bus so that your wife would have a good edit.  Or Bravo edited it that way.  I don’t know – but I doubt it has much to do with Teresa.

Fast forward to the next day.  We’re subjected to a whole bunch of scenes with people talking about Teresa and how this whole thing is blowing back on her.  Either Teresa is going along with this story line, or Penny really did throw Teresa under the bus.  Not that it matters because Penny’s word means nothing.

Melissa and Joe have a conversation in their kitchen.  It’s hard to tell what they are really saying, because when Melissa talks, her lip movements don’t match the words that are coming out of her mouth.  Most of the time the camera is on the person not talking.  That makes it easier to dub in other words I suppose.

Richie and Kathy show up at the Gorgas, which gives Richie a chance to run through his lines.  Kathy looks tired of it all.  Richie says something about Joe’s trial coming up – I think it’s dubbed in.  Richie says they need to be there for Joe.  Maybe he’s feeling guilty about his involvement in making sure Penny and Johnny showed up to the salon – since it got his team in trouble.  I really don’t care what he thinks and wish he’d go away.

Manzo time.  Are they still on this show? Flashbacks of some of the Manzo moments – like the ham game.  The kids look so young.  Caroline reminisces about the house.  This is such a nice goodbye for the family as they spin off into – well spin off land.  Caroline voices over that they’re not going to move to the Hoboken apartment – so that’s the end of that storyline.  It wasn’t going anywhere anyway.

Let me just take a minute to say that this episode seems like a bunch of short clips thrown together.  Now Joe and Tree are at Chris and Jaq’s house.  Chris gives Tree some advice – to just admit she was wrong to film with Penny and be done with it.  Jaq is surprisingly normal considering she was allegedly in a brawl the night before.  Was she?  Or was it all exaggerated by Johnny the Greek?  Teresa admits that she regrets some of the things she’s done – like being around people that were badmouthing Melissa, and that maybe she should have walked away.  She admits that she felt good when she was hearing negative things about Melissa to justify her feelings about being hurt about the things Melissa was saying about her.  Chris admits he went through the same thing with Dina, and they both agree that they are human.  That they are, and I’m glad they got that off their chests.  That doesn’t mean that Teresa was behind the rumors – just that she listened to gossip.  More on that later.

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-gallery-episode-518-21Now we have an infomercial for BLK and the various flavors.  I sure feel sorry for Al Manzo.  When the show started Christopher was the heir apparent to running the Brownstone.  Now Al is financing the boys’ various projects and supporting Lauren, with no one trained to take over the Brownstone so that he can retire.   The boys have had the taste of the easy life and will never go back.

real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-gallery-episode-518-24Teresa has to talk to Joey at the event because we need a happy ending.  He seems calm.  Teresa admits that she felt good when the girls were trash talking Melissa.  She admits that she made a mistake and apologizes.  But she swears that she never put them up to doing anything.  He accepts her apology.  Joey says they have closure and he can move on.  I HOPE SO.  Teresa breaks down and says she gets it that he’s married, and that she wants him to put his wife and kids before her.  Then she breaks down and says she loves him.  He breaks down as well.  If the show ended right now – I’d be happy.  Can we end it right now?

Nope – one more party at the Giudice’s beach house. I suppose since they started with Sandy wrecking the beach house – this is fitting closure as it is almost repaired.  It looks like springtime.  It’s sunny, but they are wearing pants and long sleeves.  Milania steals the scene as Joe zips her up in a lifejacket and calls her fat – she says she likes her muffin top.  Cute kid!  One by one the whole cast (except Rosie) strolls in.  imagesMelissa is carrying a box with a Carvel ice cream cake.  Later there is a scene with the kids looking at the food table, and Milania looks at the cake and going ewww – who brought that?  Antonia says – my mom in a disappointed voice.  Brahahahaha.  Home cooking my arse.  Read your own book Melissa! 

Then they all get their closing remarks.  And it is over – except that they immediately went into …


Watch What Happens Live – Andy Cohen interviews Teresa and Joe

Andy states up front that he won’t ask them anything about the case.  His questions … and their answers. Not verbatim.

1)      Since the charges have been filed – how has life been like for you?  Tree – Hard

2)      Are you surprised by the charges?  Joe – yes

3)      You stayed in the public eye – why?  Teresa – I’m not crawling under a rock and hiding.  Joe – we pleaded not guilty because we’re not guilty.  There’s no reason for us to hide.

4)      How have your castmates reacted?  Tree – They’ve all contacted us.  Joe and Melissa have called.

5)      How are the kids reacting?  Tree – They’re fine.  They know the attorneys are handling it.  She knows things are exaggerated in the magazine.  Joe says he doesn’t even understand the charges.  Oh vey.

6)      Who will look after your kids if you go away?  Teresa – I’m not focusing on that now.

7)      What about Mel and Joe?  Joe – not Mel and Joe – the kids will go to my sister.

8)      Have Mel and Joe been supportive?  Joe – NO.  Teresa – no one can really do anything.

9)      You’re dealing with big stuff – what do you think about what’s going on the show?  Joe – that’s BS.

10)   Do you think this would be happening if you weren’t on the show?  Joe.  No.  No one would be paying attention to me.

11)   These things happened before you got on the show.  Would you have done the show …?  Teresa – no.  Of course not.

12)   Are there things you’ve said on the show that you regret now?  Joe – you can’t go back – it’s done.

13)   How do you feel about continuing with the show?  Tree – I want to keep working.  I hope the other women have respect.  I can’t speak about legal issues.  They can’t jump down my throat about that.

14)   Your fight with Jacqueline seems prophetic about what is happening now?  Tree – I didn’t understand what she was saying at that time.  Now I’m devastated.  I didn’t get involved with Joe’s business. I never withheld anything.  That’s not me.  Whatever my attorney said, I did.

15)   Who does the finances in your house?  Joe – I do.  We hire people to do all that stuff.  We don’t do it.

16)   On the show you shared your fears (to Joe)?  Joe – yeah those fears were in the back of my mind but I didn’t let them break me down.  Tree – I feel bad for my husband.  We’re good people.  Why is this happening to us.  Now I have anxieties.  I can’t sleep.

17)   What is your darkest though?  Like going to jail?  Tree – Andy I’m being positive.  I’m the rock.  I can’t break down.  I’m the mom – moms have to keep it together.

18)   Did the driver’s license charge have anything to do with the fed charges?  Joe – no they aren’t related.  It all stemmed from the DUI.  I wasn’t even drunk.  The times I was drinking and driving I never got caught.  Then I got caught and spent a week in jail and met a lot of interesting people.

19)   You’re not a US citizen?  Joe –Yes I am.  I have a green card.  I just never got my citizenship (yes – that’s why you’re not a citizen).  I was born in Italy and moved here when I was a year old.

20)   Have you lived beyond your means?  Joe – no.  People say that and they are idiots.  I’m allowed to make money.  I make other people money.  Teresa needs to spend money because she’s on the show.

21)   When did you find out about the investigation?  Joe – a few years ago.  Tree – No – oh well maybe.

22)   In hindsight – did you make mistakes?  Joe – in what way?  Andy – in terms of your finances?  Joe – no – no one is perfect.  I don’t do my finances.  Other people do that for me.

23)   Do you take any responsibility?  Joe – no.

24)   I heard the charges carry a max 50 years?  Joe – I heard 100.  Tree chimes in – count them together – that’s what they say in magazines.

(I’m taking a moment to bash my head against the wall – how stupid are these two. Checking the clock – 8 more minutes of this?)

25)   Do you think you can survive in jail?  Tree – I don’t ever think about that.  I haven’t done anything.  Joe – she hasn’t done anything.

26)   Are you in denial?  Tree – no.  It’s hard for me to get emotional.  I didn’t realize I was this strong.  Joe – I think you’re much stronger than your brother by the way.

Six minutes left.  Please let this commercial break be a long one.

27)   Looking back, is there anything you wish you had done differently?  Tree – maybe if I hadn’t done the show (what about not falsifying document?????)

28)   39 counts is a really bad thing?  Tree – I know that – it’s like a dream to me.  I don’t even understand them.  Do you know what they are???

29)   Andy reads them aloud.  Tree – okay.  Andy – did you do any of that?  Tree – no.  Andy – do you understand?  Tree – some I do, some I don’t.  I’m learning as I go.

Oh my heavens – why in the world did those two agree to go on national TV.  That was torture.  Mind numbing torture.


Happy Birthday Buttercream


About Veena (NMD)

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177 Responses to Real Housewives of New Jersey Finale and Teresa and Joe’s interview

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It is Monday. I hope you has a great weekend. So no fight? Since the charges were dropped or settled out of court why didn’t they go ahead & show it? Hmm. Oh well. Last night was ABC all the way. All the premiers were good. I hope this will be a good season. You all have a great day.

  2. BB says:

    Even though I don’t watch NJ, I’m glad the season’s over. I hope it doesn’t come back.

    • Laineylainey says:

      That would be good.

      • plainviewsue says:

        That would be great. Unless major changes happen. Talk of Dina returning I would love. It just drives me crazy that this entire Posche fight was altered to protect Caroline & her delusional version of her Life is good marriage and family. I know Kim called her out on twitter, but there is way too much protection of Caroline, Jacqueline and the others.

    • TexasTart says:

      That would be divine….but why bother, if a broadcast can land ratings with having two seasons that are, mind you, VIRTUALLY THE SAME STORYLINE…why change anything?!

    • Powell says:

      Me too BB.

  3. AZGirl says:

    Good morning Powell and everyone. Thank you NMD for the recap and the book review. You are the best.
    NJ has officially jumped the shark. I did not even understand what was going on last night. Editing was everywhere.

    • Rebecca says:

      I’m glad I didn’t watch but am stupefied by the WWHL.

      Andy said he wasn’t going to talk about the case – and then EVERY question was about the case?

      I can’t wait until Andy’s skeletons come out of the closet. Karma is a bitch, big boy.

  4. ladebra says:

    Monday, Monday. Thank you for the bog, NMD. I didn’t watch NJ (I have tried but I just end up erasing the recorded show) but I watched WWHL. It was painful. I cannot imagine facing that situation. But then I can’t imagine most of what goes on with that show. But I don’t think I would go on a talk show, and stammer through” I don’t understand it, I didn’t have anything to do with finances.” Ignorance of the law is never a defense is it?

    Anyway, off to girth my loins for Monday!

  5. ladebra says:

    Happy Birthday Buttercream! 🎉🎉

    • AZGirl says:

      I don’t understand the Andy/Caroline “lovefest”. She is a miserable woman. I also don’t get the “look the other way” attitude with men who cheat on their wives. Caroline self-esteem is so low that she is willing to sacrifice her dignity for a big house and money.

      • VV says:

        I read on Twitter that Caro promised Albie to Andy ( don’t forget Albie is the only Manzo kid that Andy follows on Twitter).
        I know it sounds mean….. But it is funny to me.

        • AZGirl says:

          Albie is the sacrificial lamb….

        • Amalfi says:

          Her momma’s boys will never find anyone as good as their first love, Mom.
          Ugh.. lol. I love you VV, but that statement was kind of awful. I have sons and it just made my stomach turn.

          • VV says:

            Sorry Almalfi 😁 I read that on Twitter don’t shoot the messenger…
            People have all kinds of theory as to why Andy loves the Manzos so much.

    • Powell says:

      HA! The title of the link cracks me up.

  6. AZGirl says:

    Happy Birthday Buttercream!

  7. Lulu says:

    Good Morning!!! What a beautiful morning! Having strange issues with the dog?? He refuses to go out at certain times. Unless my DH or I drag him out??? I know he’s not scared of coyotes, racoons or possums. Just very strange it just started. The governor is being his (terrible) 3 self! Can’t really complain it’s not as bad as he was. Now he’s just flat out stubborn and loves to make his mom and dad look stupid in public. That I’ve come to terms with. Aiden on the other hand is such a sweet sweet baby!! He’s really into babbling these days with the biggest smile and an occasional giggle. Ok now everyone say Aww!!!! 🙂

    I couldn’t stomach watching NJ last night. Unless they throw off the rapist and his slut wife I refuse to watch. I did watch the one on one with Tre and Joe. I’m completely disgusted with Andy!!! WTH is WRONG WITH HIM!!!! Asking if Gia knows? understands? how’s she taking it?? Who are they going to give their children to?? Liked Joes answer on that when asked if it was Meho and Rapjoe he said no way! Then the jail talk he asked 3-4 different ways. When he wasn’t getting the reaction he wanted from Tre he asked “Why hide behind a facade????” Why the third degree??? That just made me sick to my stomach.

    • I was pretty disgusted by the whole thing – all three of them to tell you the truth. Why did they agree to go on the show? And that smirk on Juicy’s face when he was talking about drinking and driving and not getting caught. It made me SICK to my stomach. That interview was a lose-lose situation.

      • Amalfi says:

        I saw a clip of it on Wendy just now where Joe says they are facing 100 yrs when Andy said 50. Why do these two ever speak? Like. Ever.

      • cusi77 says:

        Was that interview necessary , I asked myself? Suuuuure for Andy… Ratings! The not talking about the legal issues but talking, was a T.O.R.T.U.R.E for them and for the viewers. Naming the 39 counts several times, about obtaining loans with false information about the jobs as executive (Hers) was corning her knowing he was giving away information many people didn’t know and knowing she couldn’t answer “Oh! Yeah! That was me, I never had those jobs”… CAndy Cohen was juror and judge! Why the torture? I was as well as you NMD wishing the commercials were longer to not watch more bashing Teresa and Joe. I will never going to watch WWH, not even if CAndy brings Olivier Martinez to his not funny games!

        • I think they should have dubbed in Milania answering the questions in her very special way of telling Fandy “You Old Troll stop asking these questions, can’t you remember when we said we’re NOT answering those questions??”
          We just need a show of just her and her comments with scenes silenced.

      • Amber says:

        I don’t get it. Tre and Juicy got caught with their fingers in the BIG cookie jar, both will be doing time — and we are not talking about a slap on the wrist as happened to Martha Stewart. Why the hell did they agree to the interview?

        The Feds don’t take kindly to their indicted publically lying to continue their scams when ironclad evidence reflects otherwise. Oh, and the part about fame having to do with being targeted? Those rules changed and if even one tenacious creditor objects, the bankruptcy fails, even for common folk. (I know two people with petitions for bankruptcy denied over technical reasons, one caused by a local tradesman and the other by a bank — and those cases didn’t involve anything close to the Giudice’s multiple layers of intentional fraud.) Although no one was careful about handing out credit during the go-go years, bankruptcy offers attorneys a second chance at applications and, clearly, they took it. Moreover, Tre and Juicy didn’t just lie to creditors and, later, the bankruptcy trustee, they also lied to the IRS and falsified IRS documents. That stuff is all bad!

        We can go on and on about how phony other cast mates are this season, how self serving it was for Bravo/Andy to air the interview, but for Tre and Juicy the only discussion I can think of is, do the two make enough of a fashion statement that Orange will be the New Black?

        • T-Rex says:

          In addition, the Juicy’s have not paid “one dime” back to any of the creditors listed on the original bankruptcy. WHY? Well because once the limitations are fulfilled from their petition withdrawal(usually two years) they will re-file again, that’s the only reason NOT to pay back your creditors after you withdraw a bankruptcy and judge accepts “with prejudice”.

  8. Rebecca says:

    OK, bringing this over from yesterday’s blog covering the Manifesto….

    Penny owns Le Chateau Allure.
    Dina and Teresa got their hair done there.
    Lauren “worked” there for a few hours to film.
    Kathy and Jacqueline are hairdressers and would be inquisitive about who owns the biggest/most successful salons in their area.
    RHONJ filmed at the salon on multiple times the first two seasons.
    There’s no way in hell the owner of a business would not meet the cast during shoots.
    We saw Danielle stalk Jacqueline at the salon in the Dina’s Girls Night Out episode.
    Jacqueline is the biggest liar on the planet. It’s not even funny anymore.

    • AZGirl says:

      For Jac to ask Penny “Do I know you?” is laughable. Jac has been filmed numerous times in the salon.

    • Exit4 says:

      Rebecca-the Chateau from the first season isn’t Penny’s salon. It’s confusing because of the name-but they’re 2 different places.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Agreed. It was rumored the original Chateau was owned by Dina’s ex-husband’s family. It was where Dina worked as a manicurist (?) at one time.

    • chismosa says:

      Rebecca I just want to say I love the way you laid that all out and I may borrow the style.

      You got style for days girl ….

  9. Rebecca says:

    SO why in the hell does Teresa have to apologize for “listening” to people out Melissa for being a horrible wench, but Melissa doesn’t have to apologize for badmouthing Teresa and encouraging her vile sisters to trash Teresa in social media – and oh yeah, that tranny support and makeup spackler are on Melissa’s payroll too. Pathetic.

    And gee, Chris, your wife is not the main source of twitter craziness? Teresa never said a word about the drunk, lying waste-of-space you call a wife. Get the bitch off the show.

  10. AZGirl says:

    Fame Whorgas has the “outing of Al” blog interview up again. I guess a few other sites copies and pasted and she has it back up. Really interesting stuff. I never knew how much power Caroline had over the producers and Bravo. Wish she would just go away and get some therapy.

    • Amalfi says:

      It is clear Caroline already admitted Al has indiscretions (ongoing apparently, though she never said that) and she seems fine with it, as long they also maintain a life together.

      Her kids are also completely aware of it and less ok with it but resigned to it, based on whatever conversations they showed about Albie/Chris questioning their marriage and Caro telling the camera that it was none of her kids business (she’s right).

      She is a hypocrite living in a life of her own creation, but arent they all? They all live an emperor’s no clothes life and attack those who happen to say “hey you have no clothes on”…..

      What a life.

      • chismosa says:

        Oh man it’s none of my business if my parents cheat on eachother ?
        Darn …… (Honest, not trying to be sarcastic)

        It will only lead those kids to make oh so wise decisions on their future partners and need more therapy than they need even now

  11. VV says:

    NMD, Great recap. Thank you! I know it was short notice but boy you did deliver. I saw most if it the way you did.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I agree. That’s a lot of work. Well, you work hard for us all of the time, but doing NJ and that horrible WWHL? I couldn’t bring myself to watch it,…but now I can read all about it without having to stomach the visual part of it. To sum it up: THANK YOU!!

    • chismosa says:

      Thank you NMD

      always and forever

  12. not THAT Jill says:

    I’m still confused as to why Teresa and Joe had a sit down with Andy-I don’t believe it’s in their contract that they must appear on WWHL and discuss criminal activity. What good came out of that interview? To me they seemed like 2 dopes who didn’t even understand the legal trouble they are in-unless that was their plan to come off that way but I don’t think so. I didn’t see Andy as happy or gloating or even enjoying himself-he looked uncomfortable and sad-especially when Teresa said she didn’t understand the charges. What was he supposed to ask them? They knew what the questioning would be-of course he would ask about jail and the children-who’s wouldn’t? I just don’t get their reasoning for doing the interview-at all!

    • Shiny says:

      It’s so weird to me that Teresa can say she doesn’t understand the charges. Why wouldn’t you ask your lawyer to explain each charge in English so you would have a clue what was going on? Unless her lawyer is going to use the defense that she’s too dumb to have participated in any of Joe’s illegal activities….

      Joe’s comment that he’s a citizen ( which to him is “not an illegal resident”) illustrates all his problems in one answer: he’s fairly stupid, he doesn’t care about any laws, and he figures he should be able to do whatever he wants to do ( from stiffing his tenants to using someone else’s identity to get a driver’s license when he wasn’t allowed to drive).

      Had to laugh at the answer that they hadn’t lived beyond their means….er, what does “filing for bankrupcy” mean about spending more money than you have!

    • VV says:

      Bravo probably paid a lot of money for the Interview. Contrary to you, I saw Andy acting like a prosecutor asking the same question different ways. Had that be Mom Manzo, one answer would be enough. He was repetitive and his plain amateurish self last night.

      • not THAT Jill says:

        What amount of money would make them agree to go on TV and look like 2 idiots who don’t even understand the charges against them? Did they really think Andy wouldn’t ask about jail time? Do they really believe they have no possible chance at jail time? They are either very stupid or very arrogant …or both.

        • lori says:

          I didn’t see WWHL but perhaps their defense is going to be we’re stupid you can’t blame us we just listened to our acct’s and lawyers?

          • not THAT Jill says:

            It seems as if they were setting that plan in motion last night but I just don’t see them being so calculating-they just are not smart enough to pull it off-so perhaps they are just not sharp enough to know what is going on-idk?

          • Amber...Real Wife says:

            Ignorance of the law is no excuse…
            stupidity that at times was endearing
            will have those two in the jail they’re fearing.

            Although I disagree w/ their illegal actions, I hope Juicey does the time for the both of them and Tre is able to get probation and support their family.

            • not THAT Jill says:

              That would be ideal-Joe doing the time and Teresa getting probation but to be realistic they need to get things in order-JIC-it’s not going to be easy to fight 39 counts. I get not wanting to talk about the “what ifs”….but then they should not have given the interview.

              • T-Rex says:

                My thoughts exactly! Uhm, in addition, all of these interviews are taped and/or recorded to be used in the courts. Why would you possibly go and speak about these issues, especially since one of them clearly has NO CLUE as to what the charges mean, and I BAD this situation really is.

                • melthehound says:

                  In spite of OnTheRaggety Mandy pressing them to do so, they really didn’t say very much.

                  • not THAT Jill says:

                    Jeff-but seriously-did they think Andy invited them there to share a grill recipe? Why subject yourself to that? I don’t understand them-what good came from the whole thing? What did they gain? A few bucks?

                    • LaineyLainey says:

                      So you don’t think they are contractually obligated to appear on wwhl when summoned?

                    • melthehound says:

                      It should be clear that I don’t care anymore but it beats the shit out of me why they did this horseshit interview to begin with. I think one thing is crystal clear though. The Guidice RHONJ run is finished. I can only hope for those who care to watch, that the rapist, his slut, the phucknut, her criminal husband and his black shit, along with the Manzoids and Manzos are finished as well.

          • Vegas Chick says:

            I seriously doubt if Joe Guidice contacted attorneys and accounts prior to (allegedly) falsifying loan documents. The lawyers and accountants came way later, and he’s hanging his hat on it probably because it’s all that he has. Like everyone else, I am scratching my head on why they did the interview. Must be the money. I thought the trial was going to start in October. Teresa said next year.

            • melthehound says:

              The trial was to start Oct 8 but has been delayed to Jan or Feb 2014.

            • T-Rex says:

              JuicyTheCriminalOaf(allegedly) criminal trial for State charges he is facing from the falsely(again another lie from the guy that doesn’t lie) trying to obtain a driver’s license, is in late October, so the judge agreed in the Federal case, to move the case so that the Juicy’s would not be in two courts at the same time.

            • not THAT Jill says:

              Lainey-I don’t think the have to appear on WWHL while in the middle of being indicted-I would think they could say NO-and say their lawyer suggests they not appear. I wonder what the lawyer was thinking by allowing this? I’m very interested to know exactly what the point of it was-there has to be a point right?

          • bellabaybeachgirl says:

            In the beautiful Yous S A, ignorance of the law is not a defense.
            I still say that they will both do time, her probably a very short sentence comparatively to his which I believe will be lengthy.

          • Powell says:

            So their plan is to throw their accountant under the bus?

    • T-Rex says:

      I think that Teresa is under her husband’s “thumb”, and she thinks this OAF is “brilliant” and everything he says will come to pass, buckle up buttercup, you are in for a rude awakening. The Feds do NOT play nice, they go for the jugular in court. I think that JuicyTheCriminalOaf(allegedly) has bamboozled his wife into thinking everything is going to be okay, and it’s not. I didn’t see the show, but from what everyone is saying, I think Andy didn’t realize until the interview, just how clueless Teresa really is with all of this, and probably saddened for her. Just a cluephone to JuicyTheCriminalOaf(allegedly), guys who have that attitude while facing numerous indictments, generally wind up with 3 hots and a cot for more than a few years. Shoot, just in the interview JuicyTheCriminalOaf(allegedly) lied more than a few times, uhm if you have a green card you are “legally” in the USA, you are NOT a citizen. You weren’t drunk during your DUI, yeah right. Oh, and if after that, if anyone believes that Teresa writes her own blog, there are a couple of bridges in Brooklyn for sale, just sayin’

      • melthehound says:

        He never said he was a citizen.. He said he never felt the need to go after it after stating he’s been here since he was 1 and still carries a green card.

        • T-Rex says:

          MTH, thanks could be the way it was written, I misread it, since again I didn’t actually see the interview.

        • Shiny says:

          He answered that he was a citizen, and then he corrected himself to say he had a green card. I think he’s so used to lying that he trips himself up when he hears a question – lies first and then covers thinking “close enough”.

          • not THAT Jill says:

            And then he sometimes adds …”who gives a shit…who cares”

            • melthehound says:

              I guess he will at 80 when he is on a plane back to Italy with his asshole whistling after 40 or so years of being someone’s bitch.

              • T-Rex says:

                Fortunately for JuicyTheCriminalOaf(allegedly), ClubFED as it’s referred to, isn’t like Genpop at a regular prison. If you want sex it’s there, but not forced, like regular prison. Most of the folks in ClubFED are your “white collar”/mob-type criminals.

    • lulu says:

      My impression was that both refused to give Andy an inch. Of course they fully understand their indictments. They pretty much plead the fifth on all the questions asked. The reality is they can’t say anything. The reason why they were on wwhl is they are obligated under their contract.

  13. Marz says:

    Just for clarification the salon in Franklin Lakes is called Chateau The Art of Beauty and is owned by a man named Victor Castro. Chateau Allure is In North Arlington NJ and is owned by Penny and Johnny. The two salons are not related in any way!

  14. Marz says:

    As far as I know , the salon in Franklin Lakes is not owned by relatives of Dina. The owner, Victor Castro is actually responsible for the casting of the original NJ Housewives. The story was all over my local newspapers at the time, I will try to find the links to them. Castro knew that Bravo was looking to cast a show in this area he recommended these patrons of his salon. I live one town town away from Franklin Lakes and Wayne and about 20 minutes away from Montville where Teresa lives.Chateau The Art of Beauty moved to a larger location about 2 years ago and this is when Lauren Manzo took over that space for her business.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      So the Chateau moved a bigger location?

      I remember on the show when Lauren and her mom were looking at the empty store they seemed to be gloating, as if the business failed; Lauren whined about how they didn’t respect her (kiss her ass enough) so she packed up her little booth after only having a chair there for a couple of days.

      • Marz says:

        Yes, The Chateau moved to a larger location and expanded their business.I don’t know how Lauren’s business is doing but the Chateau continues to thrive.

      • Powell says:

        Right RR. Like Chateau lost their biz when in actuality they moved to a larger location which Caro & Lauren would know.

        • rabblerouser2010R says:

          It;s like Lauren wanted to toot her horn and act like she one up-ed them by using their old store location.

          And honestly…having seen Lauren do make up, I have no idea why anyone would go to her.

    • Powell says:

      Marz I remember something about that.

    • Powell says:

      Why do these people name their biz w/similar names? Chateau & Posche.

      • chismosa says:


        Seriously! Must be that since every house in this area seems
        to modeled in the style of gaudy French chateau ???

  15. not THAT Jill says:

    And here is a little more drama to throw into the mix

  16. jeang says:

    Well now as of today I have stayed away from Nj and OC for the past 3 years due to all the bravo and candyandys bs. I feel like I am a winner for sure!!!

  17. rabblerouser2010R says:

    I went to the bravo blog to see if they had any extra footage…

    There is a video clip of Teresa and Jac together and all ‘their hilarious hi-jinx’ , much of the footage looked like between ‘takes’ jibber jabber which makes me think again how much of all this crap is staged.

    Also I went to read the comments on Jac’s blog…and it seems like they have screen them and only let through the ones that lick her butt.

  18. not THAT Jill says:

    Melissa’s blog is up and she talks about the book…and references 50 Shades….NMD IS A BADASS who had Melissa’s number from page 1!!!

  19. NMH says:

    I haven’t gotten around to watching the shows yet (they are taped though). I plan to wait until I have time with a nice cup of calming tea. I can just imagine Mel turning on his tv last night and his head literally exploding! By reading the recap with the WWHL, I just have a few comments to make. One, Bravo (as a whole) and that stinking production company they use for RHONJ are pieces of s**t for what they are doing to the people on this show and what these people are letting themselves get into for 15-min of fame. I don’t even particularly like the Guidices but the fact that little joe can attack his own sibling for fame for himself and his awful wife amazes me. What happened to just cutting family out of your life when you dont get along? why is it necessary for everyone to try to get everyone else on yours side? Anyway if I was Teresa I would disown those Gorgas and be happy..happy as you can be with the law chasing you. I loved how on WWHL, Joe and Tree take no responsibility for their actions. I totally believe they are innocent of most of the crap that everyone is trying to pin on them on the show, but absolutely not innocent of all the legal issues. Oh, one last thing, love how Joe doesn’t know the difference between his green card and citizenship.Lots of contradictory answers with those 2 on the show it seems.

    Thank you to the bloggers who had to watch and then write about it. Thankfully it’s almost over. Is anyone else planning on watching the Manzo show? I am not getting why that is even a thing. Albert doesn’t seem like he wants to get involved with it as I suspect he has too much to keep hidden, and those kids are not charismatic at all. Well Chris has more of a personality, but Albie is just strange and Lauren is not likeable at all. I don’t think I could handle Caroline dishing out her obnoxious advice and strange crying through it as well.

    Thanks again for the recap. I know for a fact that the recap was much more enjoyable and bearable than the actual show will be when I get around to it. Thank God Walking Dead is back on. Anyone watching Amazing race?

    • NMH says:

      Walking Dead will SOON be back on. (correction)

    • Vegas Chick says:

      No, but I can’t wait for Scandal to start this Thursday… 🙂

    • melthehound says:

      Do you want to know what the second to the last straw for me was? Yes, I saw the show last night.. Saturday night, I turned on what I thought was going to be the RHONJ first look. To get a head start on the recap for this week. Instead, what I got was a RHOM first look. I haven’t paid any attention to any of those heifers since season one so I don’t know who any of them are. However, it could have been NJ because it was the EXACT SAME SHIT. The final one came last night with the entire show. Knowing that this episode had been reshot and respliced because of this ‘fight’. Even the TH interviews were shot After the show began airing… The rapist really should have let his hair grow back before doing the interviews. I forget what I was doing at the time but I looked up and saw that tramp Penny and that fat tub of shit JTG standing there with the rapist and his slut arguing with him. Maybe it was a preview, I don’t remember now. Then you have the phuck-nut ManzoRitas running their mouths. We have heard about this fight all season long, we know it happened, charges were pressed, there was a court case about it. Last Thursday as a matter of fact. Dropped or not, they were still in court about it. To top off my disgust, we were also treated to snippet previews of both Atlanta and Beverly Hills. See my comment above, SAME EXACT SHIT. People fighting about absophuckinloutely nothing. There is nothing attractive, fun, or even remotely appealing about any of these Bravo HWs anymore. Did anybody else notice that when the rapist hugged his sister, he was holding a BLK box of some sort? It was the focal point of the shots.

      Bring on the zombies.. I am a little disappointed that Merle is gone .. They need to shoot that piece of shit governor though..

      I will be recapping TAR this season.. I’ll probably have something ready by Friday morning. There really wouldn’t have been any point in putting one up today (or the next two Mondays) because this is still primarily a HWs site and that is the typical focus of discussion here.

      I feel like shit for putting these recaps on NMD’s shoulders after I said I would see it through to the end. I got to the point however where I felt like they may end me… NMDs description of what happened, isn’t too far off.

      • NMH says:

        Well Mel, you made a valiant effort! Kudos to you both.Can’t wait to see your take on TAR and WD as well.

      • Powell says:

        MTH I’m ambivalent about Merle because on one hand he’s a disgusting pig on the other hand he was slowly integrating into the group becoming part of the group. Hell he sacrificed himself for them. The Governor? I want
        Michonne to stab him right thru the other eye w/her sword. I’m so looking forward to WD.

    • chismosa says:

      I watch Race ….. Ask me anything.
      We need to get the Emmy back this year. Stolen

  20. melthehound says:

    Well done, NMD. Again, I apologize for increasing your Sunday workload. You did a far better job than I would have but I know you didn’t expect, or probably even want, to do it.

  21. Butters'Mom says:

    Happy Birtday Buttercream. I fell like we must be related somehow. It’s all about the butter…

  22. Powell says:

    Number 1. Andy said he wouldn’t ask about the case. Ummm. Isn’t that just what he dud? Number 2. If Tre & Joe don’t understand the charges by now, they need a new lawyer. Number 3. MTH did you snap your head back on? 😉

  23. KTinCT says:

    Happy Birthday, Buttercream 🙂

  24. shamrockblonde says:

    *hugs Mel really hard* – your brain is still there – the ooze was the evil that was RHONJ – your brain will be a bit wobbly for a bit, but if you avoid any pictures of the NJ cast and avoid the sound of their voices, and especiallyAndy’s, your brain will heal –

    can’t wait to read about TAR!!!!! – I won’t say anything cuz I don’t want to spoil it, but there is one couple that are already getting on my nerves and remind me a bit of another couple from last season – hopefully they are gone soon – but otherwise, so far so good!!

    the only comment that I have regarding the finale and the Spanish Inquisition that Andy held is that I loves Tre’s suit – it looked very nice on her – my brain is still in the wobbly stage you see….

  25. designernailsdiana says:


  26. designernailsdiana says:

    I watched TAR while cutting out pajamas for my grandson. I’m just going to dive into sewing and I’m done with Bravo. My avatar is my 3 grandchildren in the clothes I made for our local Renaissance Festival. I’m thinking of selling Princess Dresses.
    I’ll read recaps/blogs, but I’ve stopped dvring the fauxreality. I’m not giving them ANY ratings.
    I haven’t watched Revenge or OUAT yet. I dvr’d those too. I’m watching Survivor though. I’m not good at blogging. I just feel like I’m inadequate to blog. But it was fun to help blog Survivor last week.
    NMD and all the bloggers I THANK YOU for your time and effort.

    • melthehound says:

      You are more than adequate to blog but I have it from here 😉 I hope we can call on you to guest blog if something happens though..

      • toodybird says:

        Thanks for all your blogs, MTH. Look forward to anything you write.

        Caroline, Caroline, Caroline. Albie, Albie, Albie. Don’t plan to watch your inane drivel on and on about your fake lives. I’d rather sew with dnDiana.


    hugs and peace

  28. Cartwheels says:

    I do not care how you spliced it or dice it, this interview was a major mistake, unless the Guidices have already decided that their strategy will be the couple of morons who don’t know any better and got taken advantage by their lawyers and accountants.

    Yes, they probably are contractually obligated to attend a number of WWHL interviews but IMO this would be to discuss the show and not their private criminal allegations, they sure were paid for this one and I mean , they were paid good money, it will served them well with the huge amount of lawyer bills they have coming their way.

    Nobody will ever be able to convince me that they do not know or care to know the nature of the charges, some of them are fairly simple, did you file your taxes from 2004 to 2008? it is a yes/ no question. You either filed or you didn’t. If they filed , then this was the perfect chance to bring some copies of those taxes for Andy to see even if it can’t be shown in camera.

    Another fair clear charge is the fake W-2 by Teresa, you either filed them in order to get money for loans or you didn’t, if you didn’t , then it is clear that your loan applications would have only Juicy’s income and not Teresa’s. Very easy to prove IMO

  29. Cartwheels says:

    I was trying to give these two the benefit of the doubt but it is more and more evident to me that
    1) they knew what they were doing and thought they could get away with it;
    2) they tried to get away with not repaying their creditors by filing bankruptcy;
    3) they tried to keep most of the material possessions acquired with the loans in form of their own residence, their beach house, their furniture, jewelry, etc. Never did they put those possessions for sale to show that they intended to repay their debt;
    4) They are thinking that they can get away with this by playing the poor, hardworking mother card, but I am not sure the Feds are going to be buying any of the BS that the Guidices are selling, even if some of her hard core fans do.

    Even with all these I do hope that Teresa’s conviction is way shorter than Juicy’s and that it is consecutive so one of the parents can be with the kids and raise them. I am not even sure why I feel so much for these lovely girls, one thing is for sure and that is their parents were not thinking of them when they were filing fraudulent applications or forgetting to file their taxes.

    • T-Rex says:

      Yes, their poor girls are the true victims here, they know what’s going on, well especially Gia as I am sure her classmates talk. So sad that they are the ones dealing with the fallout of their incredibly stupid parents. What is worse for them is that if they continue with this “we didn’t know” crapola it’s going to come off as an act? Smarter folks then these two yabboos have tried this tact before, guess what, it DOESN’T work.

  30. BB says:

    The Blacklist Tonight! Woo Hoo!

  31. Powell says:

    I see Shahs of Sunset is back in Oct. I know many of you don’t like it or don’t watch. It’s ok. I will watch it again this season.

  32. chismosa says:

    Just before any new blog possibly posts, I know I’m late and I’m still catching up:

    As you all noted and i agree —- To see Caro storm out and also Melissa seemingly genuinely like “WTF just happened here “‘((instead of running to calm her hubby down like normal after a tantrum )) makes me think that the Al affair WAS spoken of ?

    But wouldn’t one of those ugly skanks standing around Kim D at this event who were NOT contracted to Bravo/Sirens be able to let out the truth ? Or would lawsuits be involved ?
    They only have to sign on to allow their image be shown but did they have to sign on to NOT speak of what they saw ???

    Alls I want is whatever PHARMACEUTICAL Joe Gui started on mid-season. I want it !!!! 💊💊💊💊💊

    VV about Tre saying she was at dinner with Jan : VV I thought the oracle Heather said that Teresa was not at the table for that discussion and had walked away during that time.
    So how does this fly?

    Did everyone notice the order of the “recaps” at the end of the finale ?
    The first two are the ones leaving

    3rd was the one who got her pilot. Hopefully not picked up

    Interesting order.

    Joe contradicted himself when he says he does think the show has something to do with it but then 2 minutes later he says “no because if it was gonna happen it was gonna happen”

    Tre listens to her fans (or her oracle) to know to call herself a “hustler”

    I think it’s a shame that Filomena and husband never ensured their small children got their citizenship. They were so young and they could hold have held their dual passports. Shame.


    My take on Tre – the finality of it all, and I’m sure we’ll see it on the reunion:

    I think a lot of it is pride – teetering 🏃on arrogance in addition to her daughters that keeps Tre strong

    VV did you catch that MAJOR edit right after Joe says “why should she think about jail she never did anything ” ……
    Cut to next shot Tre has fresh lipstick on and a powdered face.
    Wow captain obvious At the question about living in denial.

    Then….. Next question by Andy makeup is different
    WOW excellent flow I must say in the vocals. Truly.
    Makeup is giveaway but otherwise it looked and sounded legit

    Fresh makeup at the end again.
    Sound flow top notch…… Makeup gives away the 🔪🔪🔪and 🔨🔨🔨

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I definitely agree the affair with AL was mentioned, It probably didn’t air for a few reasons…the Bravo has helped build this illusion of Al & Caroline having a happy and stable marriage’ and they were probably in negation for the spin off show . A show that is built around this premise “Manzo-ed with Children” as if the iconic Bravo family.

      Not to mention, the story line for this season was suppose to be around the ‘rumor’s about Melissa…and how the ‘evil Teresa’ is the face of the fiasco. The side bar conversation in regards to cheating…was aimed at Joe Guidice.

      I don’t get why it should have been incumbent on the parents to ensure that Joe got his U.S. Citizenship. He could have done so on his 18th birthday onward until he got his DWI.

      • chismosa says:

        Hi Rabble – I guess yes by 18 would be good but wouldn’t it be easier to make a young child one ? I don’t know the requirements I’m sorry ….. But a young kid – that to me seems easier …..than to go through all the trouble later on

        Joe could never be president ……
        (Lainey that’s for you)

        • Nancy says:

          …or work at the VA Hospitals. Isn’t that weird? I could be research for the
          Army with up there clearance but I couldn’t get hired to do nursing at the VA
          as a Canadian.

        • Laineylainey says:


        • hbgirl says:

          Here’s a little bit of what I know about citizenship through my own experience, the younger you are the easier to get your US citizenship. You don’t have to answer questions. When I was around 10 years old my father applied for me and my siblings (all 8 of us) for US Citizenship. Myself, my one older brother above me and two younger brothers below me did not have to answer citizenship questions. We were automatically granted citizenship, my four older sisters had to answer questions before a judge (in those days). Now here’s the difference with me and my family, my dad was born in the US and therefore is a US citizen and my mother is not. So when we moved to the US, my father applied for all of us (excluding my mother). Not sure why the Guidice’s did not apply, could be some legal issues?

    • VV says:

      Chismo, somebody yelling about Al’s mistress is easily edited out by Bravo. They dub everything or play sound from other scenes.

      Third try with the Jen scene. When Joey was talking to Tre. “Bravo” played the scene were Jen is at the table “Jen” is the only person you can see on the shot as she says whatever the quote about cheating was. The shot only showed Jen. Don’t know if Tre was gone. Bravo likes to trick us into thinking she was there.

      WWHL must have the same editors as HWs shows.

      To me Juicy has been the same always. Except last season when he obviously didn’t want anything to do with the cameras.

      • chismosa says:

        Right VV but why can’t ANY of those women that were edited out speak out NOW about it? I don’t get that ……
        They didnt sign their souls away


        • VV says:

          It’s Jersey Chismo. Would you like to go against the Manzos in their own turf? I remember Caroline telling Juicy last season ” My husband will destroy you”.

  33. T-Rex says:

    Okay I was out of town on business last week and don’t know if anyone reported this, but looks like Dina Manzo is back IN on RHNJ if the Manzoids are leaving. Hmmmmm Still not going to watch.

    • chismosa says:

      Yes it’s been hinted and I’m NOT happy. I find her a conceited Debbie Downer 👸👸
      I feel like someone told me she was hinting at it on twitter ? Like teasing “her fans” ? I read that somewhere

      Hope you had a nice trip ?

  34. Nancy says:

    Happy Birthday Buttercream. 🙂

    Great blogs as usual NMD. Thank-you.

  35. Nancy says:

    This guy is crazy but I’m so jealous.

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