You Hit Me, I’ll Hit Back, Did Ramona Spill Jill’s Secret – and Jill Spill Hers? by NMD
The credit for piecing this one together comes from a friend on facebook with a love of Star Trek. It intrigues me enough to bring to the blog and the public realm. The history is from memory – the current is from guesswork. We know these ladies and they are both capable of this – it just about stringing the hints together.
It all started when Jill and Ramona went to the same wedding in the Hamptons a few weeks ago. Actually, it all started many years ago, and we watched it build on the Real Housewives of New York. Team Jill and Team Ramona – fighting over a silly tennis match. As Bethenny Frankel explained in the reunion of Season One of the show – the two ladies ran in the same circles – their relationship was different. Season Two opened with Bethenny and Jill sitting at Jill’s table, with Bethenny telling Jill she needed to apologize for an article she “leaked” to the newpaper saying that Simon Van Kempen was falling down drunk at a party. Jill explained that Simon had hurt her for saying she was a typical Long Island girl so she hit back with the “drunk” article. Foreshadowing?
On Season Four of the show, the relationship between Jill and Ramona had sunk to an all-time low. This was the year that Jill was under fire as the most “hated” housewife of the franchise. I’m sure WE all remember that time well. Simon was taken to task on screen for mean tweets (only Kelly Bensimmon could think that Simon’s tweets were mean – but this is the woman that freaked out over Bethenny giving her a gift bag) and being friends with a “hate” blogger and “stalker” by Bobby (thank you Bobby for mentioning Lynn’s blog (I Hate Jill Zarin) on national TV.) The person accused of stalking was WSL, a frequent poster on Lynn’s blog (and an occasional poster here). At that time, she had gone to a birthday party for Simon’s children, and written about it on Lynn’s blog. She lived near Jill in NY, and had gone for a walk and taken some photos of the outside of what she thought was Jill’s building (based on some shots she saw on the show.) Turns out she was mistaken – that the show shots were taken of another building, but it was enough for Jill to call her a “stalker” on national TV. During this heated time, Ramona took to her Bravo blog and defended Lynn’s blog, calling it funny.
Season Four deteriorated into a vitriolic hate fest, culminating in an all out attempt to label Ramona as a drunk (Ramona didn’t help herself by shamelessly plugging her Pinot Grigio line every chance she got) and her husband Mario as a cheater. It was rumored that Jill pulled out all the stops, setting up fake blogs, paying people to seed blog comments, and trying to conduct an all out social media war against Ramona. Ramona struck back by insinuating that Jill was a recovering alcoholic. Jill never really denied that – just took Ramona to task for breaking the alcoholics anonymous “code.” After two horrific hours of reunion footage where the ladies yelled and screamed and demeaned each other, viewers had enough, and panned the final reunion segment. This, along with the suicide of Russell Armstrong (husband of a Beverly Hills housewife) send shockwaves through Bravo management. After hemming and hawing all summer, they decided to retool the franchise, cutting Zarin, Bensimmon and Alex McChord (Simon’s wife).
This move will undoubtedly go down as the worst move ever made by Bravo executive management – represented by Andy Cohen. Ratings of the show plummeted as three new ladies were brought on board. Even though Ramona Singer managed to get into fights with most of them – the raw and heated emotions of the original cast couldn’t be duplicated. Do not get me wrong. I was very happy to see Zarin and Bensimmon get tossed from the show. But from a purely rating standpoint – when you have the “most hated housewife” in history on your show, you should keep her. Villains bring in the ratings. They should have just tossed Bensimmon.
That should have been the end of Zarin, but it wasn’t. After Season Five closed with disappointing ratings, she was invited on Cohen’s late night talk show – Watch What Happens Live – to discuss being fired. It brought in HUGE ratings. Enough so that Cohen had to go on record stating unequivocally that he stood behind the new cast and Zarin would not be invited back on the show. Actions speak louder than words, and the whole cast was put on ice – not learning for around six months if there would even be a Season Six. In contrast – Real Housewives of New Jersey finished about the same time last year – a new season was filmed and has already aired. That must have been rubbing salt in the wound to Zarin – she proved she could bring in ratings, the show needed the ratings, but Andy wouldn’t have anything further to do with her.
When all seemingly seemed to have settled down, but New York is a small place, and it appears as though Jill and Ramona ran into each other at a wedding in the Hamptons on September 7th. Jill tweeted:
“Another weekend another wedding! Beautiful day!” and “Beautiful ceremony. Yes this is their house in background. Beautiful !” and tweeted a photo of her dress, standing in front of the back of the house. (Picture Credit (Jill Zarin))
Ramona also tweeted that day: “Pulling up to a wedding in southampton ride before the bride” (Picture credit (Ramona Singer))
Same bridesmaids dresses – same wedding.
A few weeks later, Star News published a story saying that Jill got drunk at a wedding and fell into the pool, then got out and went into the kitchen asking for left over lamb chops to take home to Ginger. The story was pulled the next day. When asked why the story was pulled, Jill responded on September 18th:
Interestingly, Ramona responded to that tweet on the 22nd – with a simple tag @jillzarin.
Then on the 24th – Zuzy tweeted Jill asking her if the story about her falling into the pool was true. She responded: “Ramona pushed me in i heard! RT @ZuzMiami @Jillzarin Is it true you fell in a pool at a wedding?”
Fast forward to this week – when Page 6 published a story about Mario Singer having an affair and getting a young woman pregnant. Anyone could have given that story to Page 6, but this small note on NaughtbutNiceRob’s writeup makes inquiring minds suspicious (what’s that about protesting too much?).
“UPDATED: The only way this story could get past NYPOST legal team is if came from someone with first hand knowledge. This would never have run if it were leaked by another housewife.” see story here.
For those of us that have watched these two ladies since they came onto our TV screen, it is entirely conceivable that they are still bent on tearing each other down. Ramona is known to speak first and think later. Even on last year’s reunion, there was a segment when she started to say something about LuAnn de Lesseps – and LuAnn shot her a warning look and said “do you really want to go there” and Ramona snapped her mouth shut. It is conceivable that she thought it humorous to tell a story about Jill falling into the pool. But of course, that story would not be funny at all to Jill – especially the part about being drunk. Jill’s MO would be to hit back – hard. Someone hit Ramona hard. It’s doesn’t take much of a stretch of imagination to think it might have something to do with her former cast mate – and rehash the rumors of Mario’s infidelity.
As I said earlier – this is all memory and guess work – except the part about them both being at the Hampton’s wedding – that my fb friend figured out by watching their twitter timelines.
The NY ladies will always be my favorites, but this reminds me about why the IHJZ blog was so popular during the day. It makes me very tired and sad to think how their lives will be affected by these latest rumors. Is the price of being on TV worth is?
Update: In the Article about Jill falling into the pool – it also says Bobby was trolling for dates. Almost a direct link now. Thanks again to my Star Trek loving friend. (photo credit – Andy Cohen’s fan page photo timeline facebook.)