Real Housewives Producers Slam Simon Van Kempen on Twitter over Ratings Site / Ana Quincoces speaks about Lisa and Housewives / The Amazing Race

Real Housewives Producers Slam Simon Van Kempen on Twitter over Ratings Site by NMD

The ratings for the Real Housewives of Miami are abysmal this season. According to – a website that compiles ratings for Bravo TV shows, they dipped in the 600,000-800,000 range after the show was moved to the 10 pm time slot four weeks ago. It appears that the producers of the show – The Purveyors of Pop – are a tad sensitive.  When BravoRatings tweeted out the ratings of all the “wedding” episodes of housewives (Cynthia Bailey’s wedding on ATL was the most watched BTW) they tweeted back that they were proud to have so many of the weddings they produced in the top 10 of the list.  I found that strange – there can’t have been that many – and they are producers for about half the franchise … but I digress.

It’s a poorly known secret that Simon Van Kempen runs the website.  He was “outed” so to speak by Purveyors of Pop yesterday when they had their twitter spat.

@BravoRatings Simon, we are extremely proud of #rhom and all the women and families we work with. Wish you and @mccordalex the only the best

@BravoRatings @tborio @PurveyorsofPop. So Simon is behind BravoRatings. Wow. I’m shocked. Does Bravo pay him to report the numbers?

@team_guidice @tborio @PurveyorsofPop it wasn’t much of a secret. If you read the about page on the website, it makes it pretty obvious

@jorgiecakes @tborio I’m an accountant & statistician by training. I love analyzing numbers & report the facts whether they’re good or bad

 Unfortunately, the producers didn’t stop there.

@BravoRatings So great to see so many of the weddings we produced in the top 10. Honored to be allowed to be there to film!

.@PurveyorsofPop you should thank @embassydavies 4last week’s #WWHL wedding which will save @adrianathereal from coming in last in the table

@BravoRatings @embassydavies @adrianathereal Or we could thank #dewers #johnniewalker and maybe #mrpatron for your twitter rant #tossup

@PurveyorsofPop @embassydavies Now you’re REALLY sounding desperate & frankly offensive too. Are you saying you don’t own #RHoM‘s ratings?

@BravoRatings #very proud of #RHOM, @embassydavies is a great #producer, and sounds like you need a new abacus. #NIGHTNIGHT

It sounds to me that the Producers of the show are getting a little defensive and desperate when they slandered Simon by calling him a drunk on twitter. What in the world is wrong with them?  They must know their show is tanking.

That said – I think Adriana’s wedding will give the show a ratings lift.  Not because it was an interesting wedding, but because it followed Real Housewives of New Jersey Tell All (in which they told nothing).


Ana Quincoces Tweets her Mind by NMD

Meanwhile – Ana Quincoces went on a little twitter rant of her own last night.  Seems she was dis-invited from Adriana de Moura’s wedding AND she’s still mad at Lisa Hochstein.

But first a recap of the drama:  Last week after the “fight” between Marysol, Lisa, and Ana aired, Ana started tweeting and retweeting negative tweets about Lisa, culminating in one that was apparently about Lisa’s husband Lenny. Ana stated that she was mad at Lisa for all of her “Cuban Gang” comments. Lisa responded with this (thank Zuzy for capturing the tweet):


Lisa took a lot of heat for that tweet – especially since Ana tweeted her tweets and it looked as though Lisa was in a one-sided fight.  Then Ana took heat for deleting her tweets, and defended herself on the FriendsofLynnNChicago facebook page:

Ana Quincoces Oh my, I think its time I chime in here. …. As far as the Lisa twitter exchange is concerned, I am ashamed that I took the bait. No, I didn’t start it. She posted that tweet because I was replying and retweeting support from my followers that offended her. I deleted the tweets not to make it look like it was a one-sided attack but rather to diffuse an already out of control situation. I acknowledged deleting them because I regretted posting them. I’ve always taught my daughters that the view from the proverbial “high road” is much more beautiful. Unfortunately, I did not take my own advice…

Last night, Ana started tweeting again as Lisa was talking on Watch What Happens Live. First Lisa defended her “Cuban Gang” comments by saying that the ladies were acting as though they were in a gang, and they were Cuban, so she just put the two words together.  She then said that her mom was Jamaican so she couldn’t be racist.  I disagree.  Anyone can be racist against a different “race.”  I’m not saying I think Lisa is racist, I just don’t buy that argument that she gets a blank check because her mother is Jamaican.  Updated – Lisa mom may be Jamaican, but …

Lisa and her mom (photo credits BravoTV).

before-they-were-housewives-lisa-hochstein-04 before-they-were-housewives-lisa-hochstein-17

Then Lisa went on to talk about her Star Island home and the legal battle she’s in with the “Preservationists.”  She claimed that they just wanted the attention, and the home wasn’t even historic.  When Andy questioned her about it, she said it was built in the 1920s.  Andy commented that it was old for Miami.   She just waved her hands – admitted that homes of that era are often on a historic register – but hers wasn’t and the Preservationists just wanted attention.  At this point I thought my head would explode by her stupidity.  No Lisa -the Preservationists want to preserve the home – and they are using press to sway public opinion.  They aren’t after attention for the sake of getting attention. You can read more about Lisa’s Star Island home on this old blog.

Apparently Ana was having a similar reaction:

Oh my. It’s so much worse than I ever imagined.

@GraceIn2013 the nonsense that just flows unabashedly from her mouth. It’s just incomprehensible. Andy’s face is priceless.

As far as Adriana’s wedding goes, Ana tweeted this:

@drewhammie: @AnaQooks were you invited to @adrianathereal wedding?? Figured we’d see u there n we didn’t 😔”invited and uninvited lol

@GabrielleMRO @adrianathereal It wasn’t Adriana who invited or uninvited me. Its a long story for another day. #gagorder


The Amazing Race 23.3 – Over Before It Begins  by MelTheHound


The cast

tar1Welcome back race fans. Last week NFL won the leg and the Bingo Queens were sent packing because Somebody, cannot read and follow instructions. This week, NFL is the first to leave and the final destination is, Lisbon, Portugal where they will go to Martim Moniz Square for their next clue. Seems simple, right? Hold that thought. a good third of this episode is blown by the CF of trying to get there first. NFL hits the travel agent and books what they think is the earliest flight. Turns out, the booking agent put the wrong date into her  computer and booked them on a flight for the following day. ER doctors got the flight that NFL thought they had and it just goes downhill from there. Teams are scrambling trying to get the best connections and get on standby at different connections. Baseball wives draw first blood when they manage to get put on standby in front of everyone else at the time (Exes and Dating). Remember last week, Exes made a deal with the baseball wives to give them that second express pass. Well, Marie is pissed that the wives managed to get on standby in front of them, so now the wives are dead to her, because, that is something she would have done. NFL manages to book a 2 connect flight that should get in to Lisbon at the same time as the flight they thought they originally booked. However, delays delays delays… These two cannot catch a break with the flight situation.

tar2Eventually they will all get there though, let’s see who gets there first.. Keep in mind that it’s never about who wins all the legs of the race, it’s about who wins the last one and who is second to last with each leg. ER is first to arrive followed by Dating.. They take the trolly up to the square where they meet this woman who is singing her song. She hands them a picture of a coach which is their next clue. They are to go to the coach museum and then find the coach in the picture for their next clue. They get to the Museu Natonal Dos Coches. The Baseball wives are next to arrive, I guess they got that standby, and they are on their way up the hill to the square.

tar3The first two teams get to the museum and find the coach in their picture for the clue. It’s a detour.. Tiles or Miles. With Tiles, they must put together a puzzle, life sized, using provided clay tiles. With Miles, using a large divider (some call it a compass) to measure the total distance within 500 miles of 10 of Magellan’s trips . Once done, they get their next clue. Let’s not forget that those express passes are still out their and I think NFL is now bringing up the rear. Due to delays, they won’t arrive in Lisbon until 3:40am the tar4following morning. ER and Dating decide to work together on the Miles task. Baseball is on their way to somewhere, hopefully it’s the museum. They are and they choose to do the Tiles task. Meanwhile, ER and Dating have come up with a number that is close enough for government work and get the next clue. Meanwhile, the hippies and Okies arrive in Lisbon and are off in their taxis. Baseball (they’ve been dubbed Bunnies by the others) has arrived at their puzzle task, Tiles. We see NFL arrive in London which I think is their first connection.

tar5Completing the Detour takes teams to this place for their next clue which, is a roadblock. Who has a hand for slings and arrows. What they must do, is dress up in proper knight attire and fire an arrow cannon at a target 150 feet away and hit one of the shields pinned to the board. When they do that they get their next clue which is written on the back of the shield. Jason and Travis both take this one on. Travis misses with his first try, Jason scores a hit with his. Travis cannot aim this thing properly to save his own life. The clue on the back of the shield will take them to the pit stop but we’ll gettar7 to that in a moment. Over at the puzzle house, the girls have successfully finished theirs and can move on to the roadblock. Hippies and Okies now have the tar6coach clue and decide to work together. Travis finally hits the target. Dating is on their way to the pit stop (which was the next clue) at Castelo Dos Mouros, concerned they may take a wrong turn somewhere and get lost.

Earlier in the day, at the airport and booking agent, Afghans and Ice girls booked a flight that connected in London. They wanted Okies on the same flight with them in case it was a race to last place so that Okies would get knocked out and the ice girls and them (Afghans) could snag those last two spots. Okies didn’t care for that idea and took a different flight. Why did NFL get to London before them? or did they? Where are the Exes?

In the cabs, on the way to the pitstop, Dating is trying to direct the cab driver based on the signs they are seeing. He seems to think he knows where he’s going but I’m not so sure they agree. ER is also in their cab on the way, still a little bitter that they lost the first leg due to not reading the instructions. They want a first place leg. Apparently there are several ways to this castle but one involves a hike and that’s the one that Dating finds themselves dropped off at. That costs them their 7 minute lead, and the win for this leg, when ER gets closer and checks in first. They win a trip to Costa Rica. Dating takes second place. Jason says he’ll take the blame. I guess that Amy is better at reading signs than he is. Better than last guys…

Afghan and Ice girls have now arrived in Lisbon. Back at the coach museum, Okies do the Miles part of the detour, Hippies take tiles. I guess they aren’t working together anymore. This is a race to be second to last and the only two teams we have not seen in Lisbon are NFL and Exes. Spoke too soon.. Exes arrive in Lisbon (DAMN!), Marie says she doesn’t know where they currently stand but she’ll use the express pass if it comes down to it. NFL is once again, delayed, in London. They took a flight that was supposed to get them to Lisbon the same time as ER, 7am that day. 2 connections, What could have possibly gone wrong? The original flight they managed to get on, after the initial screwup, put them a couple hours behind a couple other teams. They certainly wouldn’t be dead last and I think it would take divine intervention at this point to save them.

Baseball wives are at the roadblock and I don’t know which one did it but she got it on the second try. They are on their way to the pit stop, hopefully for a 3rd place finish. At the tile factory, Hippies are just beginning. They say they are good at puzzles. Over at the miles task, Okies are giving it their damndest, to be dead wrong. Actual distance was 16000+ miles but their first calculation? 1000 and change. Back to the measuring fellas. No worries, they just added wrong. They are on their way to the roadblock. Hippies are too as they have finished their puzzle. Baseball wives take 3rd place on the mat. Phil asks them how they moved from last to third, they figured out a strategy at the airport, that made some teams mad at them but, they don’t care. Those other teams are looking at their assets right now.

Ice girls and Afghans are at the coach museum.. They all chose Miles for the detour. Okies are at the roadblock. Danny takes on that task. He hits the shield with his first arrow but it doesn’t penetrate so he has to take another shot. At the miles task, these people are a bunch of idiots (Afghans and Ice Girls).. Afghan wonders if Magellan went through the Panama canal. The girls just take a WAG – Wild Ass Guess. The girls switch tasks, the guys say they’ll catch up.. I sense a crack forming in this alliance. Meanwhile, Danny scores a hit on the shield and they get their direction to go to the pit stop. We will see if they actually make it. Exes are on the way to the coach museum and I think NFL is still stuck in London.

As Okies are leaving the roadblock, Hippies arrive and Adam makes short work of hitting the target so they too are on the way to the pit stop.. That is the order they arrive. Exes get the clue and choose tiles. Ice girls are there working on it when Afghans arrive. Exes arrive and the others let out a huge groan. I don’t think they know what has happened to NFL. Ice girls finish their puzzle and are on the way to the roadblock. In a bit of attempted strategery, Afghan tells Exes that they’ve been there for two hours and the girls were there three hours before them. They want Exes to use their express pass. Marie doesn’t buy it but that seed has been planted. As these two idiots are trying to build this puzzle, pieces are falling off (they could have laid the template down so that wouldn’t happen) and breaking. They consider using the express pass but eventually do get the puzzle done (DAMN!). So now, they too are on the way to the roadblock.

The girls and the Afghans arrive at the roadblock. I think Ally, whose grandfather grew up in Portugal, did the task, and I don’t know which cousin did it.. Both get it done though and are on the way to the pit stop. Tim does the roadblock for Exes and they too are on the way to the pit stop.  The order they arrive is Afghan, Ice, Exes. Phil tells Exes they are the last to arrive, except for one team.

The flight from London hasn’t even left yet… We finally see NFL arrive in Lisbon but, Phil meets them at the airport, to tell them they’ve been eliminated. Since they are at an airport, they can catch a flight out of Lisbon.. Joker Phil says, “good luck with that”… Funny, Phil.

See you next week kids. Til then, Peace.

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452 Responses to Real Housewives Producers Slam Simon Van Kempen on Twitter over Ratings Site / Ana Quincoces speaks about Lisa and Housewives / The Amazing Race

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Looks like its going to be a nice day. I hope you get A taste of good weather on this hump day eve. Have a great day.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hello, Eve Lady!!! Good morning, everyone else!! it feels tropically here in Central Texas, but I hear we have some big rain and some cold weather coming!! So happy!! It’s gonna be in the 50’s either tomorrow or Thursday. Bring it on!!

  2. Rebecca says:

    Good morning! How does anyone go to, read the “about” page ant figure out it’s Simon’s site? You don’t need a law degree to come to the correct conclusion.

  3. Powell says:

    Oh gosh. Simon’s having it out w/Bravo producers. On well.

  4. Powell says:

    Purveyors should be ashamed of that Twitter rant. Oh boy.

    • chismosa says:

      Yeah maybe some 19 year old intern or something was running the twitter feed at that time. Cra-cra

  5. TexasTart says:

    I work up, came here and like magic NMD answered my questions! Thanks for the info and thanks to MTH for TAR. Good day everyone. 🙂

  6. Simon’s never tried to keep it a secret. He’s been very open that the site is one of the reasons (along with Alex’s vlogs) that Andy will never entertain the thought of having them back on housewives or WWHL. Andy blocked early on. I find that strange.

    • BB says:

      Maybe Simon and Alex are a little too smart for Bravo/Andy and that’s why Alex got canned. What an embarrassing twitter exchange for Bravo. Very amateurish.

    • ladebra says:

      I saw the tweet from Simon and was going to come over and post it last night … And then a squirrel ran by and I totally lost my thought. (Up reference, but it happens to me all the time!) anyway, those producers have spent too much time around snarky housewives.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Haha! Was the squirrel wearing spectacles? And a little vest? My little sister had a dream when she was little and she had a hard time discerning between reality and her dream and kept asking us if we had ever seen the squirrel in the yard that wears little wire glasses and a vest. haha! Random, I know. Carry On!!

    • lulu says:

      Its sad and pathetic. What does Andy/pop have against them? This is their way of making a living. Its not like they could go back to their old jobs.

  7. chismosa says:

    Holy €hit NMD, you got on this Miami and the bravo ratings FAST!

    I happened to look up Ana’s tweets because Texas Tartsy mentioned something ….
    But I never saw the one that said Ana was disinvited NOT by Ana.
    I want Ana to SING from the rooftops exactly what has happened. Maybe when they cancel Miami, whenever .,…
    Next week we’ll have the cackler turban woman crying her dramatics on her episode and then she’ll be on WWH. I wish someone would have balls and call in and ask about Ana and getting her off the show.
    That was exciting.

    I can’t believe that tweet from Lisa ….. Wow.
    Ok catching up- but big KADOOZ NMD for getting on all this so quickly ! Maybe Simon will be summoned to chat on here ….lol

    • chismosa says:

      Sorry, meant not disinvited by Adriana

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      HI Chismosa,

      It seems we have similar disdain for the fishwife shrew BlackheartLeaBlack. She’s just whore-ibble and Lisa’s bout of ass-kissing AGAIN this episode is wrecking my last nerve! But as they say Lisa’s just ‘TWERKIN for a BIRKIN’ which in short means selling herself for a bag. In Lea’s horrid voice…”How funny is that?!!”

  8. VV says:

    I saw this last night on Twitter. Started with a tweet from BravoRatings to Marysol telling her that Adrianna’s wedding may not exceed the numbers that watched her wedding. Simon typed the # of viewers and Marysol replied. I had that many? This is when Surveyors of Pop started chiming in and it went back and forth with them then others started chiming in. You could tell Simon was getting under the producer’s skin when he was telling them about low ratings. A few inside production secrets were outed and it was a long exchange. The bottom line is what Simon tweeted below.
    Bravo Ratings:
    “it’s not about us but the cut throat TV world & u know as well as I do that a poorly rated show damages PoP & the franchise”

  9. ladebra says:

    Great blogs NMD and Jeff. That Lisa is is a puzzle wrapped in an enigma for me. Sometimes I think she is entertaining, and then sometimes she opens her mouth and I think nobody can be that vacuous.

    Go Dodgers!💙

  10. VV says:

    This one’s for you. I’m sure she’s referring to Heather…

    @KathyWakile: Mouth pieces are working overtime these days!! Kisses xxx

    Original Message:

    • chismosa says:

      Just….. I mean BE her blog writer, write her book proposals, books, write her tweets, her talking heads, her reunion responses; write notes in the lunch bag to the girls and love letters to Juicy but don’t engage with your own twitter account HMac !?!? I mean come on…..

      Stop being polite and start being real. Haha

      Ok sorry – thanks for that VV

      Back to my island 🌌🌏

      • She’s smack talking Kathy, and tweeting about Tree and the girls opening a sweet shop. She also tweeted that Tree was going to Italy in a few months for Faballini. I’m surprised she can leave the country.

        • chismosa says:

          Interesting. I wonder if Joe can tag along or if they took his passport.

          Kathy said she had just returned.

          Thanks NMD

          • VV says:

            Joe probably has a EU passport. Not sure why Heather tweeted that since Tre legal issues. I guess they book all these things in advance in case and then they adjust as they go.

        • ladebra says:

          That’s very surprising. I think the court is letting her travel for work. But out of the country. Surprising.

      • Powell says:

        See chismosa that’s why I don’t believe any of the HWs are feeling bad about what’s ahead for Tre & Joe & the girls. And the family doesn’t want to heal & just be a family. If I were Tre & Joe I’d just be cordial. Would not envite them to me house & keep it moving.

        • VV says:

          Very very true.

          Crocodile tears don’t fool me 🐊🐊🐊

        • chismosa says:

          Wait you don’t think they feel bad- how does this have to do with HMac ? Kathy’s tweet ? Was she responding to something HMac started ?
          Or are you referring to Dina – good god I don’t want to be talking about her now — and her tweet?

          Ok I’m getting a headache over this

          • Powell says:

            The mouthpiece comment seems to be directed at Tre’s so called mouthpiece. There’s always some kind of underlying dig when it comes to this crew.

            • chismosa says:

              Got it

              Well if the mouthpiece started it ….. These others don’t *** seem**** to have their own mouthpieces to respond.

              • VV says:

                Well, no that is not true. The Narco sisters, I mean the Marco sisters, Melissa’s make up guy and Melissa’s and Kathy’s hair guy have been “their mouth pieces” long before Heather.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Why should she (Heather) be limited or told what she can and can’t tweet? Free country and all that. It’s weird that she’s sending out updates (if indeed she is) or opinions on behalf of Tree, I’ll give you that. But Heather can tweet whatever Heather wants e.g. her opinion, her interpretation of things as she sees them, whatevs… and I think she does,… so I don’t know why I’m even adding my 1/2 a cent. And so can Kathy, tweet wth she wants and so she does. I haven’t noticed Heather name calling. I guess Mouthpiece is pretty mild as far as name-calling goes. Heather seems to be direct where Kathy seems to be very pass/agg (no surprise there, right?). What’s funny is that we all know to whom Kathy is referring.

  11. chismosa says:

    @ VILZVET – I just read about your LASIK. I hope you have a very well researched doctor ?
    I had PRK when LASIK was just coming up – PRK is like I don’t know, a somewhat different version of LASIK? My doctor says it only means that an eye doctor can examine my eyes and never tell I’ve had eye surgery whereas on someone who’s had LASIK, they can tell. My downtime also was a day longer or so than LASIK.

    I’m only saying something to you because there was a dr Oz special a few weeks back and it scared me ¥hitless and it was about how doctors are about LASIK and not disclosing what can happen afterwards. They said it’s “the one surgery eye doctors themselves won’t get”.
    Even I have the eye floaties- where red traffic lights on cars at night kind of glow together. I have better than 20/20 still but there are things to be careful about.
    And I was told I’ll need reading glasses when I get to that age. Though I feel I’ve heard there’s a new surgery to take care of that too.

    So good luck and be careful!!! I had an aunt from Tulsa who came in and had it done in the city years ago and was one of those cases that could have been on Nightline or whatever. Cheap/ bad job.
    I’m sorry I don’t mean to scare you but I literally was one of
    the earliest people to get this type of surgery. So I follow how it goes nowadays closely.

    Best of luck 👀👀👀👀👀👀

  12. VV says:

    All you massive Kathy fans. Kathy’s book is coming out in 2014 ( hopefully when she’s no longer a member of RHONJ)

    @KathyWakile: “@RaiderMusketeer: @KathyWakile Do you know when your cookbook might be ready?”#Indulge will be out 2014

    Original Message:

    • chismosa says:

      Someone should copy that Lisa tweet and send it to Kathy. “You suck at cooking, you failed at your books, you failed as a mother, you will fail at this ….”
      Whatever —


      • lulu says:

        Chismosa I made the mistake of watching “lost footage.” What mother allows her husband and a family member to talk to a minor about sex???? That was disgusting and perverted!!! Id never allow a family member to discuss “sex” with my boys. Id question their motives as being sex offender offensive!!! Joey goga should watch his mouth when speaking to a minor in that manner!!! Just gross!!

        • chismosa says:

          I don’t know of whom you speak of in jersey – I didn’t watch lost footage #1 yet. Sorry ….

          But I’ll keep my eye out – I’m sure it’s about Kathy or Melissa.

        • Powell says:

          Joey is the last person to speak to any kid even his own about sex.

        • djprincessc says:

          Lulu I totally agree with you, it was really perverted and disgusting. Hes an innocent teen and you could tell was NOT comfortable. BUT at the same time I was entirely shocked, I think in some cultures that is normal TO THEM. My BFF had a girlfriend who is Guatemalan and she had a brother who at the time was a teenager I think he was 15 or 16 and their dad took him to go have sex with strippers to MAKE HIM A MAN, nobody in the family thought it was bad at all but I remember myself and my other girlfriend were mortified. Now the brother is about 22 I think and guess what??? Hes a stripper, I’m not even joking.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Dina is having a major Ladybug fundraiser. Teresa was already scheduled to be there. It seems that Kathy will now be there as well. Dina tweeted

      Dina Manzo ‏@dinamanzo : Tweeps things r good w Teresa & Kathy! Lets keep it that way! It’s all about coming together to help sick children. Everyone’s ❤ is in it!

      Considering that Kathy & Rosie went after Tre on twitter, I tend to doubt that. If Kathy is being filmed, I am praying it’s only as a friend of the HW’s.

  13. Amalfi says:

    I have no horse in the Simon vs. Bravo producers race, but this exchange in the writeup was hilarious! Omg still laughing

    Purveyors of Pop ‏@PurveyorsofPop7h
    @BravoRatings @embassydavies @adrianathereal Or we could thank #dewers #johnniewalker and maybe #mrpatron for your twitter rant #tossup

  14. chismosa says:

    Oh so can someone explain this to me- is Lisa from Miami half black ? Biracial?
    Mom from Jamaica ?

    Or is it like Bermuda where many English settled, etc. ? Like how Michael Douglas is part-Bermudian. I’ve been to Jamaica I just don’t know that much…
    That just adds flavor to her if she is- I just thought she was an average white gal. (Nothing wrong, just wondering !)

  15. Rebecca says:

    I am loving Marysol this season!

    “When Adriana came out with that wet hair and face mask, I lost my shit.”

    • chismosa says:

      She’s quite funny. I MISS MORE ELSA

    • TexasTart says:

      Oh for sure, Marysol is hilarious this season. Matter of fact she’s probably the only one that is funny this season. I don’t remember her standing out or being funny before unless she was with her mom – nice to know she can stand on her own.

  16. chismosa says:

    What is on Princess Pindy’s gravatar? I click on her name and it does not go to her gravatar profile.
    I’m dyyyyyyyyyying to know. ….. 🙍😲😵😲😮

    Ok catch y’all later. Have a Terrific Tuesday

  17. VV says:

    Let me go here on record AGAIN.
    Camille said on camera that Mauricio cheated.
    Brandi also accused Mauricio of cheating and even went as far as to mention a location Four Seasons Hotel Beverly Hills Bar if I recall correctly.

    If this fight between Brandi and Lisa has anything to do with outing Mauricio as a cheaters, Brandi might as well call it quits. Rumors about Mauricio cheating has been spike on and off camera, on blogs, rag mags. Brandi herself being one of the originators if this.

    • Amalfi says:

      Part of me wants to be flippant and say “well, if I were married to Kyle…” but really, Mauricio is pretty stupid. She may be unpalatable to me at times, but seems like a good and loyal. wife. Keep it in your pants, Mo. Or do a better job hiding it.

    • If I understand it correctly – it’s more about Brandi saying that Lisa is using Brandi to do her dirty work and bring up the cheating on camera this coming season.

      Brandi is now tweeting Yo calling her “her adopted family.” Yo needs to be careful – Brandi was tweeting that sort of thing to Lisa a year ago.

      Brandi is without loyalty. She has no boundaries. She doesn’t know or respect any friend codes. When she gets mad (and since she’s highly emotional she’s bound to get mad at some point) she lets loose.

      In short – she has arrested emotional development. She behaves like a child. Perhaps that’s why she’s seeking that mother figure – even though she’s hardly young enough to be Lisa or Yo’s daughter.

      • VV says:

        I think this feud started in Puerto Rico. Reports at the time indicate the fight was about Mauricio infidelities. *Kep in mind this is all ear saying.
        If Lisa asked Brandi to bring this subject up on camera, I have no issue because this has been discussed on camera before or Brandi could have refused. Did producers ask Lisa to do it? I am not sure. We never get to see the full context of conversations. If a Kyle WAS SMART (which she’s not), she could have used the situation to put the rumors to rest and end it right then and there. Knowing Kyle, she probably flipped. Again, all speculation.
        I think if this is the “manipulation” that Brandi is talking about, people are not going to care because people don’t really care too much for Kyle and Mauricio.

        • not THAT Jill says:

          I wouldn’t blame Kyle for flipping-bringing up crap like that on camera is so mean-they only reason anything like this is brought up on camera is to create drama.

          • VV says:

            I don’t blame her either. I said *if she was smart. This is the type of things that Lisa can easily difuse because again she IS SMART but gets called chess players names instead.

            Brandi also outed the surrogacy issue with Adrienne. So, it’s not like she doesn’t have a big mouth.

          • Amalfi says:

            I agree.

          • BB says:

            And Kyle calling her sister out on camera was to create drama, and Camille calling Taylor out (about abuse) on camera was to create drama, and Adrienne calling Lisa out on camera (at the reunion) was to create drama, and Brandi saying whatever she did about Adrienne on camera was to create drama, and Faye calling Brandi out was to create drama. It’s ALL done to create drama. So bringing up Mauricio cheating, especially since it’s already been brought up previously, is so much worse than what’s already been done to create drama? Of course Kyle is going to flip and she’s justified in doing so. But really, should any of these women be surprised by anything that’s brought up anymore? Bravo has gone so far over the line that nothing should surprise any of the housewives anymore. If it does, then they shouldn’t be on there, because apparently anything is fair game, true or not. They should all know that by now.

            • not THAT Jill says:

              Yes BB and that’s the point-it’s all for an agenda -every secret revealed is for a purpose.

            • TexasTart says:

              I hear you on creating drama and I’m not disputing that happens, BB. Personally, I felt that Kyle going off on Kim in the limo was totally organic. Kim pushed her buttons and I think there was A LOT behind the scenes with those two and Kyle probably embarrased to have to be covering for her so much. Kyle snapped and it happened to be a real – reality moment. I also felt Camille could not stomach Taylor’s lying ways and snapped back. It just came out. Not sure that was organic, but sure felt that way. I agree, they should all know the gloves are off and there are no boundries.

              • Laineylainey says:

                The Kyle and Kim thing was not supposed to happen like that, IMO. It was said with so much hate and bitterness on Kyle’s part… and Kim was destroyed at that moment. You could just see her heart break. She pushed Kyle’s buttons big time the way that only a sister would know to do…man, I get anxious just thinking about that. The kind of intensity that could only be produced in a real family, as you said, Tex.

        • Laineylainey says:

          Kyle will do her job. She never disappoints. Of course she will flip. A) who wouldn’t B) it’s her job c). There is no c

      • BB says:

        Yep, and I thought Yolanda was smarter than that. Oh, well.

        • VV says:

          BB, I think Yofo doesn’t like Lisa because she’s close to Mohamed. IMO.
          I know they are divorced but still her Ex and father if her children. Yofo is catty but in a quiet way.

      • Laineylainey says:

        Great comment.

    • T-Rex says:

      VV- I think I posted here in the second season, that my producer friend said that the Murray cheating rumors have been rampant for years! It was TwofaceCamillazilla that brought up the Cheating rumors, and I believe more than once. STFUBrandi also did say something regarding the issue. I believe he did get caught, that he did ask for the phone number of the person in the bar.

      • VV says:

        Yes, T-Rex. This is why I don’t understand why Brandi is banking on this or who manipulated this to be said in camera for us to see Lisa as manipulator.

        • T-Rex says:

          Because she really seems to have nothing to bring, other than drunk-crazy. If that’s all she can bring up is a worn-out, already used story line about Murray getting caught again(allegedly) with his d**k in the proverbial cookie jar, YAWN! Seriously, nothing beats that drunk ass fake-medium, sucking on that fake cigarette, proudly asserting that VileKyle’s husband was cheating. And to top it all off, we have all seen the story of the women who clearly was hit on by Murray, he can say it was for work, but then VileKyle winds up with that fancy schmancy car, and a new boutique to keep her occupied, while Murray is busy “occupying” other women.

  18. Amalfi says:

    I don’t really watch Miami much, but obviously I know the players though occasionally I get Lea and Lisa and Adriana and Ana mixed up for no other reason than their names and hair color, so I have no teams and barely know the backstory of the fights. Also, Joanna and that other blonde one. Alexis. Those two I get mixed up too, because of (again) hair and accents which are not similar, I know. And Marysol has always reminded me of Adrian from Bev. Hills.

    Anyway my point… If I bought Lisa’s house I would’ve torn in down too,. The inside was a freaking mess. I agree it is pretty iconic home from the outside. I am old enough to remember Miami Vice even if I wasn’t allowed to watch it, but maybe Lisa isn’t. But she lives there now, so she is pretty ignorant about what that house represents, even if its all an illusion and decayed.

    Still, it was a filthy mess when they showed it once. Was that earlier this season?

    • chismosa says:

      I don’t think they live there yet.
      I think it’s just her attitude about the preservation and how Andy was mocking her last night on WWH and I don’t think she got it ???

      But yes, total total pig sty.

    • T-Rex says:

      The house could have been preserved and should have been, I live in Florida, and know that other homes on Star Island have been preserved and restored, they got a cheap deal and thought that they could throw their money around. That house also has a very storied history, involving a Murder at Sea, so it was on the news a lot so it became famous in it’s own right, which is why so many folks were fighting to save it. You can google the “Joe Cool murders” and here is a link to one story about it

      • Amalfi says:

        I fell like it COULD have been if purchased by someone who appreciated that history. The city should have bought it or someone else, if it really means that much. But Lisa and her husband whatshisname own it legally and what they SHOULD do is not really anyone’s business. Yes, certainly people have the right to freedom of speech to discuss those feelings publicly and loudly even if it bugs Lisa, but beyond that….no.

        • Amalfi says:

          fell = feel the most annoying typo .

        • Amalfi says:

          That house reminds me of these ugly plastic rooster plates that my oldest brother in law forced on my husband and me from my mother-in-law’s estate. His point — they are valuable and have good memories for him. He is 15 yrs older than my husband who has no memory of them. Plus did I mention they are f*ckin ugly? I asked him — why don’t you keep these for yourself, then? He said they have too many dishes and his wife won’t let him. So we are supposed to keep them because they mean something to him. Uhm… no.

          That is how I feel about Star Island. Rooster plates.

          • T-Rex says:

            That area is very exclusive and it’s kind of been an “unwritten” rule to try and save the structures, especially on Star Island, it’s why they were selling the house so cheap to being with, they undervalue the homes so that someone will come in and fix it up. Trust me a few others were in a lot worse shape out there, and with TLC and some money were restored to perfection. I can say this, don’t mess with the socialites out there, I am sure the Hochsteins, even with all their money ,have been black-balled by several social societies over this.

            • Amalfi says:

              I hear you. Anyone who sold that to Lisa and husband believing they like preserving things in their natural form must have never seen Lisa’s remade porn star bod. Nothing wrong with that and you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover.

              If whoever owned that (was it a foreclosure?) wanted the goal for someone to buy it at a bargain and restore it to its original condition, then that should have been stated as a term of sale. If it wasn’t that was dumb. To complain now is fine, but ineffective.

    • melthehound says:

      Somebody ‘splain to me what the big deal about that house is again?

      • Amalfi says:

        Someone (maybe plural) famous/infamous died there… Drugs… Easily recognizable from Miami Vice, etc.

        A more educated response from TRex appears upthread with a link and everything, tho.

        • djprincessc says:

          Who cares!! If they bought it they have the right to do whatever they want with it! Its THEIR money, if someone or the city was SOOOOOOO about the history of the house they could have bought it and restored it themselves. I agree with you Amalfi. I don’t take kindly to being told what I can and can’t do especially WITH MY MONEY. Nobody should either.

          But on a side note, I know that plastic surgeons make a lot of money but their lifestyle really is of hundreds of millions to me, can a plastic surgeon really make THAT kind of money?? I wonder how much debt they have??

        • melthehound says:

          Thanks.. That makes it a monument to be preserved? A dead junkie?

  19. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Thank you all for the recaps. I have not been able to watch any tv the last 5 days. First Born is doing better (knock on wood). He was able to have some apple sauce and the pain has subsided. Please keep your fingers cross that there are no relapses again. I am wiped out. Thank you Lainey Lainey for asking on the previous blog about First Born.

    I love what Simon is doing with the bravo rating site. He really keeps the producers on their toes. As long as someone is watching the numbers maybe the production companies will listen to us on the blogs about what is wrong with the franchises. Then…maybe…changes will be made.

    Teresa’s blog about Caroline is so right. Has Caro ever been happy on any of the trips? NO! Al is repulsed by his wife and it shows. Caro is a miserable hypocrite. I am curious to see if she is the “happy momz” on the Manzo pilot.

    I was reading an interview by In Touch with Dina. I guess the feud is about Project Ladybug. Project Ladybug was started by all of the Laurita sisters and Dina made it out like it was her own in S1. So what? Who cares? If a child benefits then it does not matter who is leading the charity. Jacq of course was the one who leaked the forgery on Lexy’s contract and of course Dina’s best friend was “left at the altar” by Chris after he met Jacq.
    Time to “quit” Manzo’s and Lauritas and move on.

    • TexasTart says:

      Sorry to hear your son has been sick. I don’t know the background, but I sincerely hope there will be no more relapses. (((AZGirl)))

    • lulu says:

      Sorry to hear about first born. I hope he feels better and soon.

    • lulu says:

      Dh is panicking what is going on in the economy??? Significance of tomorrow? Anyone have any ideas?

      • lulu you can go to (new york times) or for more news. Or watch CNN

        it’s about the debt ceiling deadline, which is Thursday….Congress must pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling so that the Treasury can keep paying the US gov’t expenses. The House – led by Ted Cruz & his tea party mob are stalling raising the debt ceiling by attaching all kinds of nonsense to it. Like getting rid or changing the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. Incredibly, they also want to restrict the right of the Treasury Dept. to pay bills, even if the debt ceiling is not raised. This means that in fact, our gov’t would not pay the interest on treasury bills (held by countries, corporations, banks & individual citizens – imagine not paying that interest. Our credit rating would fall.) or any other expenses, once the small amount of money remaining runs out. Which it will in just a few days.

        If the debt ceiling is not raised, we are in big trouble. Stock market will crash at least 2,000 points, US credit rating will fall, social security checks & all other govt subsidies will not go out, medicare would stop…..and on and on. The govt shut down is already causing people who work for defense contractors, like Northrup Grummond, Lockheed Martin etc to fire people. If Congress doesn’t do it’s job, we are headed for an economic melt down. As is the whole world. But, if they do their job, we can avoid it. The govt shutdown for two weeks has already cost over a billion dollars & affected millions of people, the latest shennanigans in DC. The tea party’s mission is to shut down govt until they get what they want.

        You can’t change a law this way…..supposed to pass a bill in the House, then the Senate, the Prez signs it…..and it’s law. The affordable care act has passed all legal challenges, all the way to the supreme court. But the tea party thinks they can do democracy their way….hold a gun to our heads until they get what they want. How about doing it the way the Constitution specifies, by passing a bill in the House to get rid of the affordable care act? Well, they have done that over 40 times, but the bill doesn’t get past the Senate. So they are pissed and making us all suffer. Hopefully the tea party people will be voted out of office soon, and better Republicans (or Democrats) will take their place so we can get some stuff done in DC, like spending less money and reducing the over $13 trillion dollar national debt.

        My 88 year old mom is a life long Republican. She now calls herself Independent due to Ted Cruz & his tea party cronies. The Republicans are getting trashed in every poll & will likely lose control of the House in 2016. At this point, who knows if a Republican will ever be elected Prez again. Thanks to a fanatical group known as the tea party.

    • chismosa says:

      AZ prayers for your son

      I hope all the Lauritas are off TV. ALL

      and you saying “so what who cares” makes me LOL thinking of the guy on SNL doing joy behar. Ha

    • (((AZgirl))) hope your son gets well soon

  20. jezzibel says:

    Several things:
    I think that Brandi see’s Lisa and Yolanda as access to rich and possibly seeking men, that she can land to take care of her in the style to which she wants(kind of like Taylor with out all the name changes and possible illegal activity).
    I don’t watch Miami, but I think it was very nice of Ana to admit her mistake and own her bad behavior, unlike the majority of the housewives to dodge, deflect, and blame others for their actions.
    I think Lisa is typical nouveau riche( not to mention dumb as a post……my apologies to posts everywhere), the home not being on the preservation rolls prior to the sale of the property is not the fault to her or her hubby, however I happen to like stuff from the 1920’s and believe that they should attempt to keep the facade intact and keep it in the same tradition as the area that it is in, and not build some modern glass and concrete monstrosity that will look dated in about 10 years. But thats just me.

  21. VV says:

    Dean Sheremet is LeeAnn’s Ex.

    Brandi Glanville (@BrandiGlanville) tweeted at 8:29pm – 13 Oct 13:

    @heather072013 OMG that is soooo how I roll, but my friend @Deansheremet is going to help me get my measurements down! (

  22. T-Rex says:

    So my friend who watches RHNJ has read here a couple of times, but won’t post gave me something to ponder regarding the NJ franchise and the coming re-tooling that I hadn’t thought of.
    1) This past season was filmed right on the heels of the previous season, why, because of the impending indictments, (Bravo knew something was coming as they had been subpoenaed regarding the issues)
    2) That the re-tooling coincided with the ending of a lot of(I think ALL) the ladies contracts(this is opinion and speculation). DonClownCaro, moving on gave me the clue, you don’t just move on from Bravo. I think that they kept WackJack and those Boringwakiles since they had to pay them anyway, but now they will be buh-bye. What made me think of this was Babyjoey bringing up the contracts issue at the Reunion, contracts were signed hours before the christening.
    3) Teresa stating that she would love to continue on the show, even with all the impending litigation, I think it was actually a plea to the audience and Andy to re-up her contract.

    I think that this season was the last under All of their contracts. I don’t think they will be filming any time soon either, which is why I think Bravo is panicked about Miami and probably NY as well. I think Teresa would re-sign in a heartbeat and probably for less money, if only to keep a day job, Mego’s would whore themselves out in a heartbeat, the Wakiles would probably pay Bravo to come back on the show. I think Dina’s tweets about coming back on the show, were just to give a “dig” at her sister, she knew the contracts were up, and probably knew Andy wasn’t really offering anyone a new contract yet, and DonClownCaro knew she was probably not going to be asked to come back and took the out.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      I thought I read somewhere that all the HW sign a new contract every season? It seems like ever new season there is contract talk

      • T-Rex says:

        No, not all HW get a new contract every year, some are yearly, some aren’t depends on what they agreed to in the beginning. Note, Teresa played Hardball, before the season that started off with the christening incident, I believe I heard at the time, or it was posted that she had signed a multi-year contract at that time. I had heard that with the issues with the OC and NY contracts they started with the multi-year stuff from day one with Njersey. Remember there was a lawsuit filed but the SlimySalahis about being paid through their contract even though DC was cancelled(due to them), they had signed multi-year contracts, but didn’t read Bravo’s fine print that they could cancel them at any time.

    • chismosa says:

      Wow you really think the Don would not have been asked back by Andy?
      That’s interesting. I keep thinking he wants to be nursed by her too

    • T-Rex says:

      Interesting, as I posted upthread, Teresa and Mego want back so bad, I am sure that they jumped at the chance to come back. Knew that Lurkita wouldn’t be back and that Wakile would be downgraded or cut altogehter. Can’t believe they are bringing back that KimDouchebag, maybe she gives the studios free clothes in exchange for being on the show. I have a theory that Teresa and Mego may also have a lot less screen time, well Teresa will be spending hours in court rooms over the next 6 months, so filming will be difficult, and if she’s not there who is Mego going to continue to blame for everythign wrong in the world. If this info is true, I would think that Bravo is slowly edging out the old, and bringing on the new, and if those sisters turn out to be a HIT on the show, I would say that the rest of the cast may go as well in favor of the new sisters, we will see.

    • TexasTart says:

      How depressing. I don’t mean about Dina, I didn’t have issues with Dina. Who would ever want to watch a Gorga again? What do they have to offer? Gross.
      I know we can’t pay attention to this talk of contracts, but on the flip side, I’ve never heard “Season ___” talked about on any of them and the show did not come back. Ugh. 🙄

    • VV says:

      No no no. NOT THE GORGAS! They must not come back! BARF!!!🚽

      • TexasTart says:

        We’re going to have to pass out barf bags and anti-depressants around here if it’s true.

        • melthehound says:

          Or just change the channel. Just because Bravo insists on continuing with those assholes, doesn’t mean we have to.

          • TexasTart says:

            Absolutely! I “quit” NJ after the lamest episode ever, the season finale in S4. Never saw anything until you folks got to talking about the fight with the shoe polish, lol, I had to see that and then what happened in real life with T & J raised curiousity, so I watched some this season, but they lies and lack of story is just too deep. When you called it a crapfest – well that was a nice way to put it. 🙂

      • chismosa says:

        VV the toilet ! Genius !
        I have been looking for a vomit emoji !

        Thanks. Lol

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I love the part where it says Nicole owns a Dairy Queen and is quite successful. I know the family that owns the local DQ. They are a brother and sister and both work another job as well. So I guess owning a DQ would not make you all that wealthy. At least not NJ wealthy, but we’ve all seen how fake NJ wealth is.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        Yes, especially because I am sure DQ is a pretty seasonal operation on the east coast. Here in the West Coast, they can go almost all year round. Also from the picture I saw from inside of one of their houses, it didn’t seem like a mega style mansion. It reminded me more of Kathy and Richie’s home..a lovely and charming home but not grand.

      • Amalfi says:

        If you define wealth as in truffle blizzards like my kids do (well, one of them anyway – the one who will rule the world or live on the streets) then that is a sweet gig!

      • BB says:

        I know a couple who owns a Dairy Queen and they do very, very well. It’s in a town that has all four seasons and they are busy all the time. It’s one of those Dairy Queens that serves fast food along with the sundaes, blizzards, etc. It’s in a small town so that may make a difference.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I am always amazed at what passes for professional writing …this: “There are two twin sisters that are currently test shooting with Bravo right now to see if they will work as full-time Housewives,” our insider shared on September 25th, now confirming that the twins ….etc”. Must they say two twin sisters?? How about twin sisters? Unless there are two sets of twin sisters…I may be way off, but that bugs me. I mean it isn’t just a casual post,…Iimagine this person got paid to write that. Ok…rant over.

      • VV says:

        I eggmitt two twins as HWs have all the ingredientes for fun.

      • chismosa says:

        Lol Lainey

      • shamrockblonde says:

        ahahahahaha!!!! when one of the girls’ friends said to them “so you are two twin sisters?” they both started laughing and said “not unless you are talking to another set of twins besides us!!!” too funny – I hear people ask that all the time of them – and the shared smile that the girls share directly after is priceless –

    • chismosa says:

      Holy noses 👃👃👃batman ! Just opened this.

      Yeah I think Tre got a nice minor rhino.
      Damn Dina is back. 🔫🔫🔫😠😠

      • TexasTart says:

        Chis, but Tre has ot been out of the public eye long enough to recover fron a facial procedure.

  23. VV says:

    If Adriana was not in RHOM, Who would be on her bridal party? Then, of course … If Adriana was not in RHOM, I don’t think she would have had a religious ceremony and she would’ve continue to live in sin.

    • T-Rex says:

      Yeah religious cough, cough. Not her church, not her religion, all bravo bought and paid for, for her FAKE ASS wedding.

      • VV says:

        Her bridal party was made up mostly if cast mates. I guess she does not have many friends….

      • Amalfi says:

        Probably just her cultural religion.

        • T-Rex says:

          Nope she professes to be catholic, and this church is what they call a “liberal, progressive” church, no surprise, as this was Bravo found, bought and paid for wedding. This lovely church has a large LGBT congregation, and they are well respected in the LGBT community. In addition, there were issues with the whole wedding, as the bride was over an hour late delaying other activities planned at the church that day. However, from what the article states, Bravo paid handsomely for that transgression.

          • Amalfi says:

            Oh… yeah, that ceremony was not a mass. I liked her blusher veil though in my opinion, those should be reserved only for the 10 virgin brides that *may* still exist every year.

    • TexasTart says:

      Hear, Hear VV! You nailed it!
      I wondered last night where her friends were and a notably small head count at that wedding.

  24. VV says:

    Classy as always.
    @BrandiGlanville: @tinafig always ask for samples at department stores and use on chest, neck hands and ass 🙂 Its not just about the face!

    Original Message:

  25. VV says:

    I wonder if Taylor controls his Twitter. It’s odd he retweeted this one.

  26. TexasTart says:

    Rebecca – Solve a mystery please, I haven’t been able to figure out your new gravatar. A sports symbol, I’m sure, but who?

  27. Amalfi says:

    The best thing I have ever seen on all 10 cumulative minutes of Bethenney is Carmen Electra without makeup.

    She looks amazing.

  28. VV says:

    I copied this from Simons BR site. These names can come in handy at some point. I’m sure these people have Twitters and FB pages. So, head over there quickly to look at their pictures and what cast members they hang out with before they make them private 😉

    The Real Housewives of New Jersey” is produced by Sirens Media, LLC for Bravo Media. Rebecca Toth Diefenbach, Valerie Haselton Drescher, Lucilla D’Agostino, Jackie Stemple and Lenid Rolov serve as executive producers. It stars Teresa Giudice, Melissa Gorga, Jacqueline Laurita, Caroline Manzo & Kathy Wakile and is set in and around Franklin Lakes, NJ.

  29. AZGirl says:

    I just finished reading the timeline on FameWhorga of Jac’s involvement in Dina leaving HWONJ. I did not know that it was Jacq who was the troll that hit Lynn’s site with those long names. I remember when Lynn’s site was being hit. It was crazy. The poster kept changing their long name and posted all IN CAPS. Well gang. It was Jacq. Go to Fame Whorga’s site and it is all there.

    I still can’t get over Caroline yelling a Danielle at the S1 Reunion screaming “You know what you did” and it was actually Jac behind the take down of Project Ladybug.
    Jac is one crazy person.

    • Amalfi says:

      Holy heck. What a loser.

    • Amalfi says:

      I think the “you know what youse did” shit was about Danielle narking on Dina faking her ex’s siggy for Lexi to be on the show.

    • chismosa says:

      How would this site know who exactly came to Lynn’s site ? How do they get that info ?

      • AZGirl says:

        IP Addresses. IP address tell you where the poster is located and if they are using the same computer but login on as a different name. Help keep track of trolls and block them.
        Lynn spent a lot of time moderating.

        • chismosa says:

          Wait so did Lynn (and therefore, us) know that it was Jacq at the time ??

          Because another site can’t find the IPs for someone posting on a different site right ?
          And how do they know her IP address ? Is it like linked to her twitter account or something else hers ?

          Just wondering, I believe it and all —-

      • melthehound says:

        Chismosa, I’ve replaced all but one number of your IP address with an x. That, and the tracking cookies installed on your computer by every site you visit, is all anyone needs to keep track of you,

        • chismosa says:

          But that’s the site manager – how did fame whorga know from Jacq posting on Lynn’s site is what I don’t get

          And just you knowing my IP address doesn’t mean you can tell everywhere I go does it ?
          Very big brother – ish ? Like you can follow each of us on here to every place we go online ?

          • Amalfi says:

            There are proxy servers too, Chismosa, so the right person who wanted to could make it seems like they were from anywhere. Not 100% but most people aren’t trying to hide it so usually they are trackable.

            • chismosa says:

              I get that- my IP address but then can anyone go to another site and then also see my IP address ? Or only the site manager at THAT site ?

              Meaning, NMD or MTH can see my IP here, but not recognize me at another site is what I mean.
              Quite scary

          • melthehound says:

            No, it means I can tell if you try to log on with a different name using your same computer and service because that is all I would be interested in knowing if the need arose. Your computer does have a unique id on the interweb though. Also, tracking cookies are used to collect information about where you go and that info is stored on your comp. That’s how the pop up ads know what you have recently looked at. That said, the information is all there for anyone who wants to fish for it. There is no such thing as privacy on the internet.

            • chismosa says:

              Right ok got it.

              I remember when the trolls would come in with different names and you’d all say “um same IP address I see you!”

              Got it
              Thank you for the explanation.

              • melthehound says:

                Yeah… I don’t have any interest in chasing you or anyone else around the internet 😉

                • chismosa says:

                  But – you couldn’t unless I went on another site you moderated – correct ?

                  I’m sorry it takes like 100 tries for me to understand. I sucked at math

                  • melthehound says:

                    Most sites keep IP addresses private from anyone but Admins… NMD has given me that privilege so I can post and help her keep things running around here, free comments from spam, moderation, etc. Also if the need arises, kick people out (Which I have never done). I can do that with any post here as well as see your IP.

                    At Empress’s site, in contrast, I am an author. I can see that information on my blog posts only and I cannot block anyone from her site. That is, anything she or one of her other authors writes, I am just like the average Joe when it comes to what I can see and do. To actually casually see if you’ve been at another site, I would need that admin access.

                    The only time I bother looking at IP addresses except in the example where I posted a facsimile of yours, is if someone’s comment goes to spam. I use the IP to make sure that the comment really came from said person. BTW, all IP addresses are 4 groups of 3 numbers but not all places are used. That is, like yours, one of those groups may only be a one digit number. I just used all the x’s to further mask your info.

                    There are services out there that with an IP, one can see where you live, or where the IP points to, and where your IP has been and when. . For instance. You said previously you’re on Long Island. However, your IP points to a location a few states south of New York, in a feed store to be exact. Proxy. You aren’t connecting directly here. I am sure if I were interested in doing so, I could turn on your webcam, if you have one, and take a picture of you. Yeah, talk about big brother, he’s here in 2013 and we have all invited him into our homes.

                    I am not trying to scare you or anyone else.. Just point out that if someone wants to know, they can find out. Jacqueline isn’t bright enough to cover her tracks IMO so any place she’s been, she’s traceable from there. The information wouldn’t have to come from here, or Lynn’s back in the day.

                  • TexasTart says:

                    Good explanation. She reads back, so will probably get it. Might scare, but it’s all true! I want to tease about the feed store though…

          • Laineylainey says:

            Chismosa, I see youuuuu…child, use a tissue!

            • chismosa says:


              • not THAT Jill says:

                Well this is all very interesting-thank God chismosa doesn’t “get” things quickly b/c at the start of this convo I was lost. Every time I read a comment I kept hoping chismosa didn’t “get” it yet and would ask for more explaining!! Thank Jeff for that lesson-and thank you chismosa for asking all the right Qs… Now don’t come for me Girl!!!

                • chismosa says:

                  Not unless you send for me ……

                  This makes me feel less dumb. Thanks Jill. We’re on the same wavelength at times ➰〰➰〰➰〰

  30. TexasTart says:

    What a JOKE!!!! Remember there was a best dressed at the NJ poll? The worst dressed won. Is everything that has to do with her rigged?! Grrrr

  31. TexasTart says:

    Don’t ask me to explain the #

  32. TexasTart says:

    Nothing new here, just another excuse to celebrate.

  33. not THAT Jill says:

    Ok this drives me crazy-Brandi tweets that her kids are great and everything is fine-yet her “Brandi Bunch” groupies are convinced that LR is harming them and getting drunk and falling down and acting crazy in front of them. If Brandi thought this was true would she still tweet this? If her own groupies don’t believe her that says a lot about them and her.

    • melthehound says:

      You know, most people have chosen a side and just moved on to the next piece of trashy gossip. Some people however, are just Sad.. Sad, Sad, Sad. I am not talking about anybody here mind you but it is just Saaaaaad.

      • not THAT Jill says:

        I seriously don’t care about either one of them-Brandi or LR but what just intrigues me is that people are so invested in this whole thing that they FIGHT-fight like animals on twitter about it. I get that LR is a husband stealer and she probably busted Brandi’s chops on twitter a few years ago and maybe rubbed Brandi’s nose in it but come on now-this has been going on for what 4 years? It just amazes me how obsessed some people are over it.

        • Nancy says:

          The best thing you can do to someone you have no respect for is to totally
          ignore them. That’s what I do. 🙂

        • melthehound says:

          I am finished fighting about these people in any way shape or form. UNLESS, someone gets personal with me.. Then, all bets and civility, are off.

        • chismosa says:

          Ashy, I wonder if one can call Brandi polarizing yet. I’m not sure.

          I don’t find polarizing an insult. I agreed with your take on that the other day.

          • not THAT Jill says:

            I don’t think Bramdi is polarizing-at this point more people are over her so she is just annoying now. She always had more people who liked her than didn’t…those days are over!!
            I know Bethenny doesn’t like Teresa so I wish she wouldn’t have had a picture of her at all-but then it may have been seen as a diss anyway. Bethenny is getting her as kicked these days (I know some think she deserves it) but man does that Chick just keep going. I love strong woman and I’m fond of ball busters so I’m still rooting for her.

            • Laineylainey says:

              Well said.

            • chismosa says:

              You’re not fond of all ball busters 👊🏀🏈⚽️⚾️🎾🎱🏉🎳- BBB


              But I don’t understand if so many are over her – then who are the hundreds that favorite her tweets or go to her defense ? Her army …..
              So—- maybe not all ?

              Ps I can’t believe it but I think Lisa looked better in that dress on WWH than Beth did.

              • not THAT Jill says:

                Brandi is not a ball buster-she just tries to play one on TV-she is a sissy when the ball busting gets thrown her way! I like true kick ass ball busters-not fake wannabe cry baby ones!!
                The Brandi Bunch (as her twitter groupies call themselves) might not be as large in numbers as they used to be but they are relentless-they tweet day and night in defense of Brandi but they have their own agenda. They hate LR with such passion you would think she stole all their husbands and bikinis too! I don’t think they are Brandi lovers as much as they are LR haters. And I mean HATERS like really hate-not like NeNe “Hi haters” TV hate-ya get me?

          • Orson says:

            I think saying “I find X to be polarizing” is an observation, not an insult. Or not necessarily an insult. Teresa took an observation that Caroline made as an insult during the reunion. I OBSERVE that sometimes Teresa is very quick to take offense.

    • Laineylainey says:

      I agree that minor children are off limits. But I guess it’s hard not to bring them into a discussion when someone is discussing her parenting skills. But honestly, unless the parenting dynamics are being displayed on the TV, we don’t really know what’s going on. She could very well be an amazing parent! i so want her to be!

      Jac brought her then minor child to the front and center of her storyline, so…she opened up herself and her precious child to the relentless searing criticisms. I won’t get on my soap box about that, but I grieved for that girl from day one when I saw what Jac was doing to her. Ok, so I put one foot on said soapbox, but I am done.

  34. VV says:

    Because she just doesn’t know how to shut up:

    @BrandiGlanville: @itsjdog very loyal but not when betrayed. That doesn’t mean I don’t forgive. #waitwatchandsee

    Original Message:

    She’s so naive that she’s banking on what the show will air about it.

    • melthehound says:

      She doesn’t know Bravo very well does she?

    • not THAT Jill says:

      Haha VV-she is very confident that she will have the backing of the “fans” when they “watch what happens”….poor poor Brandi…she is in for a rude awakening I think!!

      • Laineylainey says:

        Poor thing

        • not THAT Jill says:

          Lainey-what’s shakin’ bacon? I feel like I haven’t chatted with you in ages! How’s Lainey Girl? And Boy?

          • Laineylainey says:

            Hi Jill!!! I’m fine! How are you?? how are your angels?? My kids are well, THANKYOU! Laineyson is living In downtown Austin after having recently secured a position at a post production house here in Austin!! that makes us happy. He just spent a week in NYC packing up his room to make his final move back to Texas. LaineyGirl has regular income…yay!! She teaches dance and works for Lululemon. She’s still going out for auditions. Her latest gig was a Harley Davidson shoot…not sure if it was for a calendar or what. Papaya hasn’t called in a while. But she loves her job at Lulu. I am enjoying work and so is my hubs. Lots to be thankful for…that’s for sure. Thankful for all of you guys, too!

            • chismosa says:

              Lainey that’s great. Tell your daughter to look out for SEE THROUGH YOGA pants. Hahahaha!

              Lawsuit from last year. Lulu has quite the cult following

            • not THAT Jill says:

              Lainey-great things happening for the Lainey family-I love it!! You must be so proud of them!! LaineyGirl is busy-good for her. You must be happy to have your boy back in your neck of the woods-I’m glad he got to experience NYC living for a while-it must be scary and exciting to move away from home-your kids are brave! You and MrLainey must be awesome parents to encourage them to “fly”!! (I must remember that I called you and MrLainey awesome when it’s time for my daughters to fly the coop and I hope I can encourage them the same). Thankful for all here too!

              • Laineylainey says:

                (((JILL))) you will. You’re so smart, feisty and awesome… I’m sure your spirited girls will feel free to fly when the time comes. That day will come. For now, enjoy their touch…when they hang on you, sit on you, press their faces into your face, call out to you…those moments are what you will remember the most. I was cooking dinner the other night and our son’s Bank of America commercial came on. We ran in to watch it and looked at each other and my husband said “20 years ago or so, we moved into our home with a 3 y.o.and a 6 y.o….we raised them right here…and now in this very room, we have seen national commercials that he assisted in editing and her Bridge promos…all right here!” I said “I wish I had known back then that this would happen”. He said “what would you have done differently?” I said “I would have worried less and therefore maybe nagged them less?”. Haha! I guess we did ok. ☺ It doesn’t help to second guess, just like it doesn’t help to worry.

                • chismosa says:

                  Awww so sweet.

                  A tear 💧

                • not THAT Jill says:

                  That’s fabulous!! Your excitement in their endeavors is contagious-I’m so happy for them and you!
                  The time I’m in right now with my girls I’am truly loving-Annabelle is turning into a real person with real opinions and still needing her Mom but in a different way than Maggie. At this moment I’m so glad that they are at such different stages. I got my teenager with all her exciting new scary things going on and my little Diva with the world on a string.

                  • Laineylainey says:

                    That’s wonderful, I love your passion for them! They are very fortunate! Your family is precious!

                  • chismosa says:

                    You guys make me very jelly

                    Jill what is the age difference again of your girls ?

                    I want a gaggle of girls. …. 😦

    • boston02127 says:

      I can’t stand her. Never could.

  35. Nancy says:

    Cityside where are you???????

  36. Nancy says:

    Sorry Noelle. 😦

  37. lulu says:

    Bringing this down here. Someone explain what exactly is going on in our economy? What the effect will be on us if a deal is not signed? Or if our credit is downgraded?

  38. boston02127 says:

    I just watched the unseen footage of NJ.

    Andy…..Hold on, my fiancé wants a little bow chicka wow wow before he goes to work. Don’t care? Not interested? NEITHER ARE WE when it comes to your immature incessant sexual talk. When anything sexual is talked about, your whole face changes, your eyes take on a new shape, you get this look of glory in your face. It’s gross. It’s creepy. Stop. Just stop.

    Melissa….I watched your dance practice and I’d like to say keep up the good work but you suck. Big time. When you told the teacher that “keeping up with the dance and the walking and the music is like ugh” It’s called keeping time. You’re a train wreck. Go away. Bring that gorilla of a man that you call your husband with you. The two of you could find a helpful hobby to participate together in such as a basic math class. Again, go away. You’re exhausting.

    Jacqueline….It’s been about five years now and you still can’t pull off a full sentence without that stupid childish laugh following it. Do you think it’s cute? Cute is for kids not for a grown women with kids. You’re not cute, you’re not inspiring. You seem to like being the dumb one. Good luck with that. At least it’s something you do well.

    Albie and Christopher, boxing? Really? My upper arms are about the size of a couple of broomsticks and I’m pretty sure I can take the two of you. At the same time. Hit a gym. Stick with it. Stick with anything for more than a few months.

    Rosie….I’m so sick of the girl on girl talk and what you yearn for. Just as nobody wants to hear about my sex life, I don’t want to hear about yours. I’m not sure if saying (typing) what I’m going to say is politically incorrect. I don’t care, I am not sorry. I’ve listened to your crap for a couple of years now, so here goes, If you were not gay, Andy would have nothing to do with you. Ever.

    Richie Wakile….. Why are you even on this earth? You’re a disgusting father and a repulsive husband. You are nauseating. I’ll never understand why good people get sick and die and you’re walking this earth.

    Caroline….You’re getting a spin off? I think it is pretty safe to say that nobody in the United States of America will watch. Nobody wants to watch the three glorified bums that you have raised or listen to your rude cheating husband. I’d like to say don’t quit your day job but I’m so happy that you did. Later.

    Jen…I’m not sure if you read the blogs but here’s a little advice. Never pick a fight in that type of outfit. Ever. As a matter of fact, never wear that type of outfit. Period.

  39. chismosa says:

    Anyone catch Andy on Bethenny the other day – what does “Mensa Mensa” mean? He seemed to be saying comme si comme ca ?
    I couldn’t find it in google. Is it Yiddish like he always sprinkles his English with ?

    We have an expression in greek – there’s none in English – like “so-so” – is that what he meant ?

  40. djprincessc says:

    Not to get political bc I am not one to try and sway anyone towards what I believe in. I think everyone has the right to believe what they want no matter how stupid it may be. lol. But has anyone else read/seen this?? It was sent to me.

  41. Nancy says:

    Lainey…this is for you. Take a bow!! 🙂

    • Laineylainey says:

      That’s awesome!!! Inspirational, gorgeous!

      • Nancy says:

        H0w did you like the…”Take a bow…take another one..and another one.” The dog
        was another bonus.
        Doesn’t he have a great voice? He sang Bring Him Home in Les Mis.

        • Laineylainey says:

          So cute!! I was blown away with his voice,…but yes, take a bow! Take another one! One more!!, very Lainey!! Haha! I liked the intro…”he’s not gay, before you start casting aspersions, but I am gay! So cast away!” Funny guy!

  42. AZGirl says:

    Thank you all for your positive vibes. First Born is back. Should be able to get to classes at ASU tomorrow. I am glad (he is not) that this happened during fall break. Sleeping well tonight.

  43. boston02127 says:

    Nancy, I thought of you earlier tonight and laughed to myself. I was reading and eating the caramel candy. I wasn’t watching while I was opening one and a few minutes later I realized I was still trying to open one. I thought to myself, I probably be dead if they were easy to open.

    PS…. I never made the apples. 🙂

  44. lillybee says:

    Nancy, I have a question. Is it usual for a severe trauma patient to be transfered from a level 2 trauma hospital to another level 2 trauma hospital over 200 miles away? Is there any reason that this would be done? Both hospitals are owned by Dignity.

  45. Nancy says:

    My LA Dodgers are breaking my heart! Congratulations CItyside. 🙂

  46. Laineylainey says:

    MTH you so owe me a coke! Jinx!!! You owe me a coke!

  47. VV says:

    Bethenny Frankel Reveals Ex Jason Hoppy Still Lives With Her While She & Ellen Put Feud Rumors to Rest–Watch Now! – via E! Online:

    • Nancy says:

      I don’t believe a word of it. This is called damage control.

    • chismosa says:

      VV here you go :
      🚽🚽🚽hugging it

      • VV says:

        I suggest she invites Ellen to Warren’s apartment. Rumor has it she spends a lot of the time there.

        If BetheNO cannot invite a friend to her apartment, Does that means Jason also cannot invite friends to the apartment? I bet the answer to that is YES! Same rules apply to both.

  48. chismosa says:

    MTH – just answering you here as we got skinny

    I see what you mean. So moderators/ owners of sites.
    Got it. So essentially any site I have gone to, that moderator there could capture my IP and try to snoop on me in some way if they wanted or had means to.

    Um- I’m really on Long Island but I’m on a cell phone / AT&T so maybe they’re going via another state ?
    I think I’m safer on this phone vs people with webcams I guess. This is like a sordid criminal minds episode.

    Ok my brain hurts.
    Thanks for the lesson.

  49. Nancy says:

    Night, night all. Had a lot of fun with all of you so thanks. 🙂

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