Real Housewives of Miami – Brazilian Bridezilla / I Dream of NeNe

Real Housewives of Miami – S3Ep 10

“Brazilian Bridezilla” – by HydrangeaHussy

So, we all know by now that ratings for Miami have been dismal.  I think Bravo is hoping that Adriana’s wedding will turn things around.  (It didn’t.  NJ didn’t provide a strong leadin – and ratings climbed slightly to 866,000 from 800,000 the week before – still weak enough to lead to cancellation. NMD)  Based on what I’ve seen from Adriana this season, I’m thinking that it won’t.  I just can’t get into Adriana’s wedding.  She’s obnoxious & rude, this is her third wedding, & she’s been married to the groom for years!  It should be interesting to see Lisa & Marysol as bridesmaids after their blow-out last week.

This week begins with a compilation of the issues faced by Adriana on her wedding day.  Rewinding 24 hours we find Adriana freaking out about her son’s shoes.  She is sooo stressed about her wedding that she needs a B-12 shot, which Frederic must administer.  She points out all of the things that must be done before the wedding.  She hasn’t even had time to get a bikini wax!  How has she not picked up her dress at this point?  Doesn’t she have a wedding planner to handle the flowers, etc?

real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-06Alexia is at the beach relaxing.  I’m surprised that Adriana isn’t on the phone barking out orders to her bridesmaid!  Lea, Joanna & Lisa arrive.  Lisa tells us that Lea & Joanna were not invited to the wedding.  The talk inevitably turns to the confrontation between Marysol & Lea at Alexia’s party.  Alexia asks if Lea thinks that Marysol could have been trying to explain her feelings, which Lea quickly dismisses.  It’s pretty obvious whose side Alexia is on.  Lea points out what I noticed about Marysol in past seasons, she has a victim mentality.  I think that this season she’s gone too far in the other direction.  Lisa says that she was involved in the argument because Marysol interrupted her conversation with Lea.  Joanna notes a change in Lisa.  She’s become more outgoing & confrontational.  Alexia keeps explaining Marysol’s side & Lea finally tells her to mind her own business.  Alexia says that she isn’t defending Marysol, but she clearly is.

It’s the day of the wedding!  Adriana tells us that her wedding starts at 6pm “on the dot.”  She is in a suite at the hotel where the reception will be held.  The church can be seen from the hotel.  Marysol arrives with a huge make-up organizer.  Alexia arrives next.  She is super stressed & shocked that Adriana hasn’t begun to get prepared.  Marysol & Alexia are in the dining area, with a team of hair & makeup getting them ready. Adriana’s sister is the only family that she has in attendance.  If this church wedding was so important, why have it in a place where your mother can’t attend?  It’s 4:11 & Adriana hasn’t gotten in the shower.  I see where this is going…  She says that she’s trying to enjoy her day, but I think she’s just a procrastinator.

Lea is spending the day at home with Joanna.  Her house is still being remodeled & it is a mess!  They go upstairs to Lea’s closet.  The closet is large, but a little overdone for me.  There’s a lot of glitz.  They discuss the wedding, which is a few blocks away.  Lea says that she doesn’t see a way for her relationship with Adriana.  I don’t either.  Adriana is a liar, Lea is possibly a liar.  I just don’t see a way for those two to work it out.

real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-14As we know, Lisa, Marysol & Alexia are bridesmaids.  Lisa arrives at the hotel.  She decides to be civil & ignore the tension with Marysol.  Marysol decides to move on.  The two are getting along.  I don’t think that either is sincere, but at least they’re putting aside their fight for Adriana’s big day.  Frederic & his parents arrive in the suite to look for his clothes.  Adriana comes out wearing a full facial mask & scolds him for seeing her.  real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-12Is it really bad luck if they’re already married?  Adriana has a little breakdown & lies down b/c “everything” is on her!  Actually, everything is on the wedding planner & team of staff that are in the suite.  All Adriana has to do is sit there while someone else does her hair & makeup.  Marysol attempts to get Adriana out of bed.  Lisa is astonished that Adriana would keep her 70 guests, who each have two outfits, waiting while she lies around.  I am not surprised by her behavior at all!  It’s now 5:10.

real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-16The men arrive at the church in their white tuxes & Adriana is FINALLY having her makeup put on.  The wedding planner arrives & tells Adriana that they need to hurry.  The Man of Honor says that the minister will begin the wedding at 6:05, without or without Adriana.  Adriana is upset that everyone is stressing her out.  Her guests look upset that it’s five minutes after the wedding should begin & nothing is happening.  6:05 comes & goes.  It’s now 6:20 pm & Adriana isn’t too worried.  At 6:55, Lenny checks with Lisa.  Adriana is still finishing her makeup & isn’t dressed yet.  Her guests have now been sitting in the church for an hour.  If I were a guest, I would have left.

real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-17The women see Adriana in her wedding gown.  It’s lavender & has lots of sparkle.  She kind of looks like she should be on Dancing with the Stars.  Seriously, it reminds me of Gretchen’s reunion dress.  I would like it a lot more if it was white.    The veil is not right & Adriana starts ripping it up.  Has she seriously not looked at her veil until one hour after the wedding time?  What is wrong with this woman?  And where’s the mantilla that they made such a big deal out of?  Adriana arrives at the church, apologizing as she comes in.  No amount of apologies make it ok for you to leave your guests & groom in the church for an hour.  It’s not like there was an emergency that kept her, she was just lounging around & procrastinating!

The wedding begins with the bridesmaids walking to Ave Maria.  I love that song!  There don’t seem to be many guests, which isn’t really in keeping with a wedding that needs such a big dress & the outfit change.  I’ve always thought that you toned down the wedding if it was smaller.  Marysol points out what a special day it is for Adriana, Frederic & Alex.  Adriana has waited a long time for this wedding.  Actually, she only waited for the wedding, not the marriage.  Just as Adriana requested, everyone is in white.  She is walked down the aisle by her son.  Adriana tells us how lucky she feels to have found a man who gets her & loves her for who she is.  In a random note, did anyone else notice that Adriana’s ring was on the wrong hand?  There’s the mantilla!  Marysol tears up that her mother isn’t there to share this day with Adriana.

real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-20Deep in their heart, the commitment is there now.  I thought the commitment was there when they legally bound themselves together years ago.  Despite all of my cynicism, Adriana & Frederic seem happy & very much in love.  I wish them the best!

On to the reception & some drama between Lisa & Marysol!  It takes Adriana a full minute to get her dress out of the car.  The girls are back in the suit getting ready for the reception, which is slated to begin at 9:00.  I don’t know about you, but I would want to spend some time with my new husband after the wedding, not spend more time with hair & makeup.  Just as Alex said, there are guests changing in their cars.  It’s 10:09 & the girls aren’t ready.  Lisa is trying to hurry people up, but Marysol & Alexia haven’t even begun to get ready.

True to pot stirrer form, Alexia chooses that moment to bring up the argument between Lisa & Marysol.  She just can’t let a party go to waste!  Lisa quickly shuts her down & tells her that this is a wedding, not the place to get into this.  But Marysol keeps going with it.  She won’t let anyone walk away from a fight this season!  Lisa says that she thought the whole thing was out of character for Marysol.  In her TH, Marysol says that to assume a person will behave in the same way at all times is dumb.  Marysol explains that she wanted to give Lea a chance to explain.  Lisa points out that Marysol & Lea aren’t friends so why did Marysol expect Lea to reach out to her mother.  Marysol says that she let Lea walk away.  Lisa points out that Marysol followed Lea & confronted her again.

The men are all sitting downstairs, with the guests, again waiting on Adriana.  This woman has zero respect for other people’s time.  Frederic comes upstairs & informs the women that guests are leaving.  Did I seriously hear Adriana admit, in her TH, that she went overboard?!?  Color me surprised.  She begins yelling that people are stressing her out.  There’s no food & the only music is the harp.  Lisa points out that the whole day has been about getting ready, not the wedding.  real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-28The women finally get to the reception.  It’s 10:45 & Lenny is trying to leave.  There’s some obvious tension between Lenny & Lisa.  Lenny points out what everyone is thinking – this is not normal!  Adriana & Frederic finally arrive at the reception at approximately 11:00 pm.  Lenny leaves & Lisa is obviously upset.  She is embarrassed that he left, but I would be more embarrassed that my friend made her guests wait for two hours!  Lisa follows him out.  She’s upset that she is always alone & he’s upset b/c he’s been working all day.  Lenny agrees to stay for 15 minutes for dinner.  real-housewives-of-miami-season-3-gallery-episode-310-29Adriana says that she understands Lenny’s frustration, but just not enough to hurry up.

Marysol says that the whole day was beautiful enough to make the day worth it.  To me, the whole thing seemed staged & forced.  But, what else should we expect from Bravo?

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I Dream of NeNe – Hurry up and Get Remarried Please by NMD

This show started off by exploring relationships.  It’s degraded into a study of superficiality, greed, and excess.  As NeNe narrates the timeline, we learn that it is only three weeks to the re-wedding.  For some reason, even though the invitations are printed and mailed, we’re supposed to believe that they haven’t decided on a venue yet.  i-dream-of-nene-season-1-gallery-episode-105-06NeNe’s dream wedding venue is outdoors in a beautiful garden, but of course she wants to turn it into a circus with tents and air conditioning, etc. for 400 guests.  Her new wedding planner gently breaks that news that the only way to have THAT wedding is to delay it for three weeks or so.  NeNe explains that delaying is not an option, so miraculously they find another venue on short notice.  I’m not buying this.  Popular wedding venues are not available that easily.

NeNe and Gregg go through their wedding list, and we learn that her dress is $56,000 and the cake is $15,000 and being flow in from New York first class.  NeNe sure likes to price drop.  The entire budget is between a half million and a million dollars.  I’ve got to assume a lot of this is free in exchange for product placement, or paid for by Bravo, because that is how much she makes for an entire season of real housewives.  Surely she’s a smart enough business woman to make more on the show than she spends on the wedding.

i-dream-of-nene-season-1-gallery-episode-105-17We have to suffer through a scene with the bridesmaids, all vying for screen time by acting like self absorbed twits.  There are about a dozen of them – and Cynthia is the only housewife among them.  Cynthia is actually trying to be helpful, but NeNe will not consider any shoes but those with red bottoms at $1,100  pair because it’s not how the show looks that is important, it’s the label.  She explains that the girls should be very grateful that she’s buying them shoes – because they are expensive and have a label (or red bottom which is better than any dang label).  Of course Marla has to gripe – because she has a closet full of shoes with red bottoms and doesn’t like these particular ones.  I just can’t get into such a long segment on shoes.   Then they do the bridesmaid dress fittings.  It sure looks to me that they are making the dresses, and I’m wondering why they left it so late.  Apparently NeNe has designed the bottom of the dress, but each bridesmaid gets to design the top.   Finally NeNe makes them all get botox – just so that all their natural beauty can be smoothed out in pursuit of a plastic, immobile look.

i-dream-of-nene-season-1-gallery-episode-105-23NeNe and Gregg go through the Crate & Barrel to pick items for their registry.  While it’s sort of cute that Gregg is scanning everything he can see, NeNe keeps talking about how Bryson will like the stuff.  I’ve got to wonder why they need stuff – they’ve been married for years.  And are people supposed to buy stuff for their son?

NeNe is also on pins and needles about the New Normal being renewed.  It isn’t.  Obviously, NeNe is pretty upset about the loss of her paycheck.  How come she doesn’t tell us how much she gets paid – she puts a price on everything else?

There are more scenes with the bridesmaids fighting, including a tea party.  It’s really unclear what they are fighting about – Diana seems to have a huge chip on her shoulder, but Marlo doesn’t help matters.  Do they really behave like this or is it just to create fake drama?

This show is dragging on way too long.  Wedding planning just isn’t that interesting.  Kim Zolciak’s show had way more going on – like real life in between the wedding planning.  And it was split up in half hour episodes.  I think Bethenny’s show might have been in half hour episodes as well.  An hour seems wayyyyy to long – you shouldn’t be watching a show wondering if it’ll ever end.

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Politics

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About Veena (NMD)

Just a housewife ... who loves this place .... and loves to write ... You can reach me through this email: nomoredrama8@gmail.com. Lynn's Place is in tribute to Housewives blogger Lynn Hudson, who passed away in August of 2012.
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413 Responses to Real Housewives of Miami – Brazilian Bridezilla / I Dream of NeNe

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. Happy hump dayyyyyy. 🙂 The sun is coming.up from its slumber. It looks.like its going to be an overcast day. Don’t work to hard & have a great day. And where’s Mike? Looking for that camel. 😉

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      It’s sad that even after Ellen said all that about the rumors of her wanting to distance herself from the show are false people will still believe it to be true. Bethenny is disliked so much that the truth will not be believed. This is going to be called “damage control”. I believe it-I think Ellen is rooting for Bethenny and I think certain ex HWs need to be quiet and stop using Bethenny to get their name in the press.

      • Powell says:

        They’re both saying it together that they are just fine & Ellen supports B so I believe them. And JNNTJ I totally think
        you’re right that that is just what the former HWs are doing. Continuing to say Bethenny w/their name to bring attention to themselves. The jellybean cartwheeler who said the show wasn’t real & we don’t know anything about her & her family keeps going at B in her own gnat like way. And it’s so obvious that the hobbyless one still needs to get a hobby. I don’t know what Alex is doing cuz she seems to be doing her thing.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Kelly is still nutty as ever-she tweeted she would love to go on Bethennys show to set the record straight-Bethenny tweeted that she is welcome anytime-Kelly tweets back no thanks….Ramona was right-Kelly makes no sense!!!
          I would love to know how many times Kelly has tweeted Bethenny name in the past month-she is acting loony!!!

        • chismosa says:

          Jellybean cartwheeler LOL!

          I don’t know if she was ASKED specifically regarding being spotted talking to Jason on the street and then responded ? Or she was off her lithium for the day and actually had a stand alone tirade.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            I think it started with Andy asking Bethenny if she would have her on the show-Kelly got all bent out of shape about the answer-which was not anything bad. Kelly knows if she talks about Bethenny or anything HW related she will get press-she is a stark raving lunatic!!!

        • LaineyLainey says:

          The HOBBYLESS ONE. funny!

    • BB says:

      Now, who would expect Ellen to go on Bethenny’s show and not be 100% supportive? Ellen does have a vested interest in Bethenny succeeding. She launched Bethenny for this talk show so it wouldn’t reflect well on Ellen if Bethenny failed. I would like to know who Bethenny’s demographic is. I know the premise of her show, but who is watching other than those who like Bethenny? I’m definitely not part of that demographic. My daughters probably are but both of them are busy working and making a living and Bethenny. If I asked one of my daughters (who’s 27) about Bethenny, she wouldn’t eve know who I’m talking about. So who is her audience? I seriously want to know. Would it be the same people who watch The View, The Talk, Wendy Williams, Queen Latifah, The Doctors, Dr. Oz, etc. If all it took was tenacity and gumption, Bethenny’s talk show would be the most successful out there, because Bethenny definitely has that going for her. I hope that’s enough because I want her show to succeed. Success means more to her than anything. And it will make her happy, until she thinks of the next “thing” that will make her even happier, whatever that will be. That is Bethenny. That is her life.

      • BB says:

        “both of them are busy working and making a living and Bethenny isn’t even on their radar” is what I meant to write.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          understood. so true,…what’s yer demographic, Bethenny? Interesting question. My son who is 25 wouldn’t know her from a hole in the ground. My daughter knows her from watching Reality with her mom.

  2. What is it with the exclusives when everyone is reporting pretty much the same thing?
    ” AllAboutTRH was the only site to be right about all info regarding season 5 and we can confirm that everything stated above is FACT! ”

    http://www.allabouttrh.com/allabouttrh-exclusive-jacqueline-laurita-leaving-the-real-housewives-kathy-wakile-demoted-and-3-new-wives/

    “Both sisters are twins” LOL. What does that really mean?

    Anyway – as Caroline and Jaq are out – Kathy is demoted, Tree and Mel are staying, Dina is back along with three new ladies – including the twin sisters. Filming starts in November to get the season in before Tree’s trial.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Both sisters are twins???? Wow I’m glad that was cleared up! Seriously??

    • Powell says:

      NMD so funny one of the blog comments said “at least please diminish Joe’s role. He already thinks he’s a housewife.”. It’s so funny how so many viewers feel that Joey thinks he’s a HW. He’s worse than Simon ever was IMO.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        He does more THs than Kathy or Jac. he real does believe he is a HW-sad little man!!

        • Powell says:

          I guess since Tre threw his toy out of that car window he’s been trying to get noticed ever since.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Yes Powell that was very traumatic for the poor baby!!!

          • chismosa says:

            I beat up my brother in his playpen when he was little. (Not baddddly) He wouldn’t do talking heads or be on a reality show. Haha

            Alas he is less charismatic for TV than JoGo

            • VV says:

              Not surprised you beat up your brother, not surprised 😘

              • chismosa says:

                I’m an eldest and have the personality between the 2 of us. My mother said she left him in his playpen for HOURS you’d never hear from him.
                To this day if he’s around you don’t know. When we ever fight I always say “get a personality”

                We don’t fight often. Lol
                👊👊👊

          • trudie says:

            When I was 7 and my brother was 5, he got a Lite Brite for x-mas. I wanted to play with it and got my Dad the wrong watt light bulb to put in it. Light bulb was too hot and melted the screen you put the pegs in. For years, whenever my brother wanted to yank my chain, he brought up the Lite Brite (even though Santa replaced the screen). I got him a new one for his 40th birthday to shut him up. Haven’t heard about the Lite Brite since.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Ha! Great story trudie!

            • Powell says:

              Hahaha Trudie. I’m sorry but I’m on your bros side. Lite Bright was a cool toy. I loved it. Haha. 🙂 Happy birthday. Now shut up.about the Lite Brite. 😉

            • My 32 yr old son wanted a criss cross crash when he was 10 or 11 and he never got one, so when he was 18 I got him one for Christmas (Thank You ebay). He was so happy he played with it for HOURS, made me wish I had gotten it for him when he first asked.

              • Powell says:

                Besides my Barbies, which I still have including the camper & airplane & I have two collectible Barbies I bought, my fav toy was my easy bake oven. I so loved to make those little cakes. I had a real kitchen too. The iron actually got hot. I wish I still had those. They go for a mint these
                days.

                • I am still waiting for “A little girl, becomes a little lady with a vanity all her own, by Ideal” That song has been in my head forever!! I never got a Easy Bake but I had a Rings and Things which was the girl version of Creepy Crawlers.

    • chismosa says:

      I feel like every trial date the Giudices get keep getting moved, I wonder if something will happen to affect Bravo’s timeline.
      Oh Sirens ….

      Just wondering but couldn’t they find any non-Italians in Jersey ? They seem to really limit themselves. I guess it’s based on the areas they focus on filming but – it’d be nice to show other ethnic backgrounds. Jersey is diverse

      They’re keeping Kathy only to have Rosie on in some capacity.

      Thanks for the updates NMD.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      So are there three twins? wouldn’t they be triplets, then? or are there two sets of twins? LOL

  3. TexasTart says:

    NMD, I appreciate your stance on no politics. Thank you for making this place an escape! ♥

  4. ladebra says:

    Happy Hump Daayyyy! I love this time of year. Hope everyone has a great day. Lainey I loved your tale about your sister and the squirrel😀

    • chismosa says:

      Love the gravatar. 🎃🎃🎃

    • Powell says:

      *No politics* ok. But this is funny. My mom saw on our local news a family w/their carved pumpkin. It was a half of a pumpkin w/an govt official looking letter that said something like “We could only afford half a pumpkin because half of the govt is shut down.” She said
      it was funny.

  5. chismosa says:

    Hey I know you’d all NOT want to miss this – the Don will be on Dr Oz today about hot flashes. Shining that smile and batting lashes I’m sure ! 
    〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰
    VV- are you going to watch Barf today ? Or did you just do the online? 
    I watched yesterday. Carmen Electra had at least a CC/BB/ tinted moisturizer on. She was not completely makeup free. Very gorgeous and quite nice. 
    Interesting “to divorce or save your marriage panel”. I mean …. REALLY? 
    👎👎👎
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    Hydrangea – thanks for the recap. Adriana has become too much. I still “like” her and find her amusing but I do see what everyone sees. 
    I know it’s more likely for show and
    for THE show – but I have a personal theory I have studied a lot about procrastination that I’ve found to be true in me- it was in some research I did on birth order and it’s called Failed Perfectionist. Basically it states that I am such a perfectionist that I don’t want to start things at the correct time or do certain things not for fear of not doing the actual thing but fear of it not being EXACTLY. PERFECT. 
    When I found this in some book it was like this person knew me, it was eerie ! So I had always been the student to leave my 12 page term paper to the night before, etc. (I went to a competitive high school) 
    I also never went to any high school reunions (though I’m still best friends with 4 girls I went to school with to this day) because unless I was a CEO of some company, married with 1.5 kids – I wasn’t going. Perfectionist. 
    Maybe – I don’t know – Adri suffers from a bit – just tiny bit – somehow? 
    I loved her main gown, despite sparkle which I loathe. The pale blue was sublime. I don’t understand brides changing it up to 3 dresses at a wedding. I didn’t like the 2nd one and found it trashy, and similar somewhat to Ho’s upcoming dress. Similar to that awful dress the bride who got married on WWH wore. Barf. 
    I LOVE the long table sit down dinner which is then followed by dancing. I love love love weddings that do that instead of dancing around while people eat. Super super chic. 
    I’m not going to account for lateness – because that’s a whole other Emily Post issue. 
    Many cultures lay claim to the “lateness” thing. Not just Brazil and not just Latin America. 
    Have a good day with Mike everyone 👦

    • VV says:

      Not watching. She bores me. So, which one is it Barfenny or BetheNO? I’m still undecided😜

      • chismosa says:

        She had jeans falling off her that had to be a size 00. She has NO lower body. If not for her broad shoulders and implants she’d be a tiny wisp. Maybe some barfing going on. I feel her food issues have never left her. And she likes to be in control. Food is something people can control in a chaotic life.

        You and Miami will be me and BH!

    • designernailsdiana says:

      Chismoa Oh that whole Failed Perfectionist hits so close to home. I just told my trainer yesterday that I’m afraid of succeeding in my weight loss because I’m afraid to gain it back again. I’ve got to do it right and PERFECTLY or not at all. That took a lot to say to her while she was beating me up making me lift weights. My biceps, shoulders and deltoids are very sore today, but a good kind of sore.
      I’m currently doing a program thru our new wellness initiative Living Lean which targets the mind and how we view food/eating. Quite interesting actually. I’ve stopped weighing myself and am just going by how my clothes fit. Felt so good to fit into pants that just weeks ago I couldn’t fit into.
      No Politics!! Hooray for NMD!!!!!!!!!
      Thanks again everyone for the blogs and recaps.

      • Powell says:

        JNNTJ because of B & Kim’s weddings w/the ratings Bravo thinks that’s all we want. I said I wasn’t watching NeNe but I decided to watch the family dynamics and now I’m trying to understand what’s up w/Diana & her hating on all of NeNe’s other bridesmaids. I still haven’t seen a full epi & I don’t have any plans on watching the wedding ceremony. Not interested at all in that. The family dynamics was eye opening. I don’t know how I missed it all these yrs but I didn’t know Greg
        had kids. So it was interesting to see that when NeNe & Greg were married all of a sudden the kids were no longer living w/them when he had custody & he wouldn’t explain to her why the kids were gone. Interesting.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Powell-I didn’t know Gregg had all those kids either-that’s strange right that they never mentioned it?

          • Powell says:

            Right. They never mentioned it that I can remember. My mom used to watch Atl the 1st two seasons. She said she knew he had kids. She didn’t know how many but knew he had kids.

      • chismosa says:

        Diana glad it was enlightening.
        And congrats on your journey! You sound very inspiring. I will have to check the health and diet page to see if you’re there

    • Powell says:

      Chismosa I like the Failed Perfectionist theory. I’m not a perfectionist but I am a procrastinator.
      I like when brides change twice. No more than that cuz it does seem a bit ridiculous.

      • chismosa says:

        Change twice —- so 3 dresses ???
        Or two?

        It diminishes the importance of having THE wedding dress.
        I’m not into this.

  6. chismosa says:

    TIME OUT – Ellen is not in person on Beth’s show? Skyping it in? What!?!??
    She couldn’t fly out ?

    It’s only October ! November is sweeps …..
    This is lame.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      The only reason I find it not lame is b/c of all the rumors-Ellen wanted to set the record straight so this is why she skyped in. If it were a regular guest sky ping in I would say LAME but in this situation I get it. #fart

    • BB says:

      What! You mean Ellen wasn’t even on set? I know she’s probably busy taping her own show, but really? Even if she could have flown in over the weekend and taped it, that would have been better than being shown from LA.

      • chismosa says:

        I don’t understand it BB
        Shows Ellen is nottttttt really pushing it if you ask me. The ‘support’ movement.

        Jmho!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Chismosa-that is funny -the support movement isn’t being pushed b/c Ellen is not really there? No matter how this went down-it was going to wrong. Bethenny is in a spot that she can’t win no matter what-#fart #GG #rezastinls

    • VV says:

      Makes you wonder if Ellen knows the fate if the show. Not willing to be there in person is telling….

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I look at it like this-Ellen believes in Bethenny-she wanted to put the rumors to rest NOW-maybe her schedule didn’t permit travel but she had so,etching to say.

  7. VV says:

    Why is Atlanta coming back again so soon? Does Bravo play this series on a loop? I mean I blink and is back on. What about NY?

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      NY is finished filming but they haven’t announced the air date yet.

      • VV says:

        That is odd. It seems like they’ve been gone forever…

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Remember Ramona and Sonja didn’t sign their contracts b/c the wanted more money or whatever so that pushed filming back.

        • Powell says:

          It does.

        • Anne says:

          Long time reader, dating back to the IHJZ days and first time poster.

          I hope that this comment posts in the right place. Re: timing of RHONY. According to amazon.com, Carole Radziwill’s book is scheduled for release on 02/04/14. I suspect that the RHONY season will be scheduled so that the book release occurs during the season. Carole can plug the book in her blogs and mention the show in her book tour (which will probably include appearances in various talk shows.)

          Wonder if she will appear on Bethenny’s show?

          Thanks for continuing this blog. I enjoy having the opportunity to read about rather than watch most of the Bravo shows. It saves me time and let’s me participate in watercooler discussions about the latest developments! Also, the Amazing Race recaps are a great help when my dad talks about the show (which I don’t watch) because I can use the writeup and list of teams to follow his comments.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Hey Anne-glad you posted!!
            I forgot about Carole’s book. I still think the schedule is messed up b/c the Ramnona/Sonja/Luann hold out-but this will def. work out well for Carole!! Oh and I can totally see Carole on Bethennys show-if her show is still on when NY starts playing

            • Anne says:

              Hi Jill — You are probably right that the delays in the RHONY premiere are just due to the contract problems and I may just be a crazed conspiracy theorist!

              When Bravo pushed the filming schedule back from winter to summer, I thought that they might end filming with Carole’s book launch because the original publication date (at least on amazon.com) was in September 2013. Of course, amazon.com sometimes gets publication dates wrong and publication dates change for lots of reasons unrelated to television shows and the RHWS. I don’t remember exactly the publication date for Carole’s book got moved, but I think it was in mid-summer sometime. It seems to me that RHOBH filmed at the same time as RHONY, so Bravo could have announced a start date for RHONY this fall. I just find it curious and I think it will be interesting to see what Bravo does to try to capitalize on the book launch and the publisher’s PR.

              Carole’s book does have some favorable editorial reviews posted on amazon.com. One from Kirkus, another from Susan Sarandan and a third from Candace Bushnell. Much different from some of the recent RHW books, especially the one that was recently reviewed in this blog. I was a fan of Carole’s writing prior to RHONY and I expect to buy and enjoy her novel.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                Ann-I will for sure buy Carole’s book. I read her book and the writing was great-the story was terrible-so sad and quite depressing but it seemed so real to me. I also bought Brandi’s book and it seemed like it was written by a teenager and edited by a teenager…not all housewives should become authors-even the ones who end up on the best sellers list!! I was going to buy Melissa’s book but then NMD bought it took one for the team-wasn’t that nice!! I have no interest in Caroline’s book but if I see in the bargain bin I might get it just for sh*ts and giggles. I’m NOT buying Brandi’s new book-no way no how!!

          • Powell says:

            Anne you have to post regularly. Welcome Miss Anne. 🙂

    • chismosa says:

      I’m having Ramona withdrawl.

      I’ll only have Atlanta. At least my bravo tv time will lessen

  8. Lulu says:

    Good Morning!!! Great job on the blog Hydrangea!! I just watched RHOM and although I found the wedding venue/reception guests to be stunning. The themed costumes for both if it was one or the other is fine. I still think it’s rude of Adrianna to expect people to change their outfits. But nothing tops what a B#tch she is to her guests and the workers!! An hour late to her “vow” ceremony then another hour late to the reception?? From a caterers stand point that was unforgivably rude!! These people who are in the background have families! From the cooks to the waiters to the cleaning crew that’s over 2 hours of overtime that someone is paying. It’s obvious she couldn’t be bothered with those “minor” details.

    RE: what is happening in our economy. DH looks at things from the absolute worst standpoint. I hate when he does that. He’s always a doom and gloom type of guy. Like at any moment the floor will fallout. I hate that he has no optimism. I’m not one to worry about things that might potentially happen. So last night when he went on a rant about “possible” job loss, skyrocketing groceries and gas. Frankly it just P@sses me off that he does that! We have two boys so of course I’m going to freak out. Is he being realistic or does he maybe need to see someone? That’s been on my mind all morning.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Hey Lulu-my husband can be a doom and gloomer also-I am more of an optimist so we clash about certain things. Now that my girls are getting older I remind him that being negative will effect them and not in a good way so he has been slowly changing what he says-for their sake. I don’t want my girls to be naysayers!! He sees their positive attitude about things (even though they are still young and do not know the burdens of adults) and how it bemefits them and it’s rubbing off on him in small ways. He still vents to me about things in a doom and gloom way-I think it’s just part of his personality.

      • Lulu says:

        JNNTJ–Bad things have happened job loss etc. Although it was a stressful time it wasn’t the end of the world. I hate that he always goes there to the worst possible scenario. Over the years I’ve tried to get him to stop with these “revelations.” His answer is should he just hold it all in? It’s just annoying! I just don’t want his “gloom and doom” to rub off on both the boys. No use in worrying about tomorrow.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          It becomes difficult dealing with doom and gloomers-maybe that’s why they end up with people who are optimist-they need us to help them see the bright side!!!

          • Lulu says:

            🙂 Guess we are the perfect yin and yang!

            Me those roses are beautiful!!! DH whats the point they are going to die anyway
            Me A perfect cloudy day to snuggle and watch movies!! DH its too gloomy outside

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Same in my house Lulu-but if your boys take after you-your husband will see how beneficial it is to look on the bright side!!! My husband would doom and gloom over the littlest thing but my girls won’t have it!!

    • designernailsdiana says:

      Lulu some men see things very black and white. Men focus on money and providing for their families. We are not rich, but we are not poor yet my hubby stresses about money too. Ask your DH to talk to you and explain if he just needs to vent/rant or if he wants you to help him make a plan for a what if scenario. Just talking to him might get him to look at the bright side of what he has i.e; Loving Wife, 2 adorable children who are healthy and happy. He has a home to come home to every day and food on the table. I think sometimes, myself included, we lose sight of what blessings we have in our lives each morning when we wake up.
      Stop and smell the “Roses” “Coffee” “Fresh air” whatever it is just live in that moment and treasure that as a gift from God (if you don’t believe in God then insert what you do believe in,,,,fairies?)
      Anyway, I’m the kind of person who wants to see the good in people and I give second chances to everyone. If they need a third chance I might grant that, but only under very special circumstances!
      Hope this helps you Lulu 🙂

      • Lulu says:

        DND–Agree!!! Both of us were brought up “Fire and Brimstone” Irish Catholic. In a sense lets just fear everything. I’m more on the side of seeing the good in things, having faith that things will be ok regardless. Just have to figure out a happy medium or a way to help DH cope.

      • Powell says:

        Diana I like what you said. I think we all lose sight of blessings at times too.

    • Powell says:

      Lulu I feel for you and Mr. Lulu. I understand what he’s saying. He’s concerned for his family. But I understand your position because it seems like his worries some time overtake him. My advice is to support his feelings but also tell him he can’t let the country/world’s problems affect your relationship & the family. Also he doesn’t want 2 babies grow up to be doom & gloom young men, then grown men. Also he needs to look at the high prices of gas, food, etc as an opportunity to make adjustments in your personal & family life. To me that’s the best any of us can do. Hugs to you & Mr. Lulu. ❤

      • Lulu says:

        Thank you Powell!!! In all honesty we don’t spend much I’m pretty frugal. Unfortunately my medical bills with the emergency C almost wiped us out yikes!! But I’m very grateful that not only were we able to pay them ALL off! Now we are rebuilding and I’m as always frugal with our finances. So the world around us can fall apart I will always have a plan in place. Though DH would rather go on and on about the doom and gloom part…….

  9. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    What’s with Bravos wedding diarrhea? It’s really enough-between vow renewals and marriages I think it’s over done. Who decided that wedding spin offs is the way to go? I think Kim’s spin off was the only one that was somewhat entertaining and not b/c of the wedding-but b/c Kim and her supporting cast-she has a likable family in my opinion. I don’t care about NeNes wedding-she is not having fun and neither am I-it’s just too fake and phony-like Adrianna’s wedding. All show and no go! Tamra’s spin off sucked too-even with her outstanding family-her brother was the funniest thing I have seen on Bravo in a long time. I hope no one else decides to get married-remarried-or renew their vows or have a name changing party with a cake and a bow!!

    • VV says:

      They are not very creative over at Bravo. Same formula for everything.
      You are right about the weddings they are like expected now. Goes back to their lack of creativity. Blame producers for that as well.

      I hate to brake the news to you. Lapband and Vito’s wedding is coming 🚽

    • BB says:

      I haven’t watched, but is anyone enjoying Nene’s spin-off show? I haven’t seen a blogger out there who seems to even like it much.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        It’s really not enjoyable BB-NeNe shows none of her fun-it’s all fake drama.

      • designernailsdiana says:

        BB Nene is same sh*t different title. I just CAN’T watch it. I tried, but after 3 minutes I had to turn on Snapped instead. Maybe Bravo can feature wives who catch their husbands cheating and then burn their clothes, destroy their cars, etc.. you get the gist!

    • designernailsdiana says:

      JNNTJ We renewed our vows in Jamaica and my hubby surprised me with a new ring. Well, next thing we know other couples who were there with us started doing vow renewals and the men had to follow in DH’s footsteps. 3 men upgraded their wives rings. After the last trip to Jamaica and not one but 2 vow renewals we said enough vow renewals for us. It’s been over done and the poor husbands are buying new rings for their wives when they don’t have to. DH and I made a deal that he’d upgrade my ring every 5 years if I put up with his crazy work schedule. I did and I earned it, but I told him he is not allowed to upgrade again because I absolutely LOVE the ring he got me. My original ring is going to my youngest daughter for her wedding ring. She did tell me they will give me the sapphires(September birthstone) out of it because he boyfriend is putting emeralds in for hers (May birthstone).
      I wanted to do the vow renewal because I loved how Vicki and Donn’s was on RHOOC it looked so wonderful and happy. Little did I know they’d end up divorced.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Good for you Diana-I like that ring up grade idea!! I don’t think I could get my husband to do a vow renewal-one wedding was enough for him-but I maybe able to get a ring up grade in a few years!!

    • melthehound says:

      All the weddings and junk are tiring. The baby attempts are too. I’m ready to see some divorces.

      • Powell says:

        HA. Only Lu’s pathetic baby story was a joke to me. But w/Lisa I just want her to really listen to what Linnie is saying cuz I don’t think she is. She just wants to “carry their baby” & to me is not being realistic. They need to have a surrogate or adopt & they can still try on their own.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        That comes next Jeff….Divorce by Bravo

      • Lulu says:

        Lol!!!! I wouldn’t put it past them Jeff!!

        • melthehound says:

          They are a day late and a few dollars short. Aren’t all the DC HWs divorced?

          • Powell says:

            MTH I liked all of DC except Michaela so I always forget about those divorces. So that makes 8 divorces and 1 breakup(Linda & Ebong). I am so looking forward to Michaela writing a book about Tareque & his scams. He’s got to owe DC & VA businesses lots of money.

            • chismosa says:

              I can’t believe the African American couple got divorced- OR the one who looks like a young Stockard Channing with the 5 kids.
              Shocked me ! Litra_lee shocked me

  10. VV says:

    Bravo is reading blogs. Saw a commercial for RHOBH and on talking head Brandy-Hic is saying something like I can forgive but won’t forget.

  11. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone!!! Good news! First Born is up and getting ready to head to classes. Fortunately he only missed one day of classes due to fall break at ASU.

    Bad news is Second Born got run off the road on I-40 heading to work. He is ok. Two witnesses stopped and helped him.

    Car had to be towed. Not sure what the damage but we just bought it for him new. Insurance provides rental car and he will not miss any work.

    Well, maybe there is something about Manzo Karma. I need to back off bashing Caroline…..nah….hogwash….she still a miserable old crow. HA!!!!

    • VV says:

      (((AZGirl)))

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Hope your luck turns around real soon. Glad to hear no one is hurt. It’s a bummer about the car though. Hang tough!

    • melthehound says:

      Good that your son wasn’t hurt.

      Momz is just so bash-worthy, I don’t know how you could ever think of backing off.

    • Powell says:

      It’s great that AZSon1 is back to school. I’m sorry AZSon2 was in a car accident. Thk goodness he’s ok. I know how he feels about his car. It’s a bummer but it will be ok.

    • Lulu says:

      Good to hear about first born!!!! Happy he is feeling better!!!!! I hope everything will be ok with second born! That sounds frightening!!

      AZgirl is this a theme if it’s not one it’s the other? I wonder that with my own. When i’m occupied with one the other crys/acts up. Its a constant balancing act.

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      Oh wow…

      Thankfully your DS seems okay.

    • chismosa says:

      AZ happy to hear things are better with first born.

      What does run off the road mean ? I have to google. So long as they’re ok that’s all that matters.

    • KTinCT says:

      (((AZGirl)))) so glad second born is ok 🙂

  12. LaineyLainey says:

    Thank God, second born is ok!!!! That is so scary!

  13. Hello All and thanks NMD for a great blog! I am always annoyed by people who are perpetually late with NO REMORSE! NO APOLOGIES! These are people that have NOT respect for other people or other people’s time. Adriana has been doing this since season one at her art show, the lunch (where she forgot to pick up her kid) and many other incidents. I know plenty of Latinas that can get somewhere on time! Adriana just believes the sun and moons sets on her. I used to like her more than Joanna and this season is proving that Joanna can take the higher ground and come out better. I felt bad for Lenny and Lisa. I could see that Lenny was aggravated and just wanted to go home. I would have left. There is no way I would have hung out…but since they were all friends of Adriana’s no one should have expected this to be on time anyway! Marysol has a bigger role in the show than was expected, right? I thought she was a “friend of the housewives” but has been on almost every episode this season. I just wanna see more Mama Elsa. Give her some Vitamin B and get her on the show more!

    • Powell says:

      Story I think I would have left too. Other people’s time is valuable. Lulu brought up the fact that the wait staff have families & a company that had to pay overtime. I’m sure there were a few babysitters & relatives taking care of kids of the guests. I can’t wait to hear Adriana explain that away at the reunion.

      • designernailsdiana says:

        I smell a Bravo set up with this “late” problem. I’m sure they twisted things up again like they did on NJ. Which is why I don’t watch I just read! Do we know anyone who was there or worked at this shindig? I’m sure someone would get a “leak” out about what really went down that day/night.

        • chismosa says:

          Good point. Pictures leaked all over of her dress and stuff so why not people attending ? Signed releases not to speak of this? Please

          And Bravo had the time written on the screen about every 2 minutes to highlight how late she was.

          I agree, can’t trust editing – to some degree

  14. HuskerHuny says:

    Can I just say how much I have come to love The Little Couple? And that little son of theirs? And now they are adding another child – a girl – from India. This show makes me smile and laugh. These are real people living real lives. Ditto for Duck Dynasty.

    These shows make watching Housewives even more pathetic. Shame on me! But I can’t turn away. Ying and yang – good and bad – it balances out.

    Happy hump daaaaaaaaaaay!!! You too Mike!

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      The Little couple are so in love with that boy!! The dad makes me so happy when he get set he little boy to smile and laugh…I love them!!!

    • Just Wondering In Jersey says:

      I love the little couple and Will as well. I read today that they picked up Zoey on Monday so I can’t wait to see what she looks like. These are TV people I would like to know in real life LOL.

      • mrs peabody says:

        I’m so glad they finally got her. I’ve been watching them since the first show, they are a wonderful couple and wonderful parents to Will. He is the cutest little boy and has such a beautiful smile. I love Bill with him, Jen doesn’t seem as relaxed as Bill does. I thought it was so sweet when Jen and Will had a day together and Will put his arm around her.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I have a niece that my brother and sister-in-law adopted from China. She was found abandoned on a bridge and taken to an orphanage. Imagine the life these two would have had they not been adopted. My niece is a joy and will graduate high school this year. Will is in loving hands, regardless of his disability, he will thrive and have a wonderful life. Can’t wait to see sister Zoey!

      • Powell says:

        Husker that is great. Everytime I see Will and they talk about Zoey I just think about how their parents abandoned them because of their dwarfism. But I guess it was a blessing because they were adopted by a couple that are loving and give them a great future.

    • Powell says:

      I watched some of the Little Couple last night. Will might have short legs but that baby can move. He is such a cute baby. I was glad to see the grandparents. And I kept looking for the Maggie. I finally saw her sitting on the couch.

    • Lulu says:

      Huskerhuny that is my guilty little pleasure!! I LOVE the Little couple!!! Little Will is adorable I can’t wait to see Zoey!! I love how genuine they are and they don’t need stupid drama either.

  15. Powell says:

    Anyone watch The People’s Couch on Bravo?

    • melthehound says:

      I saw a part of it one night and it will be the only part I ever see.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I watched Powell-I wouldn’t tune in again on purpose but if it came on when I was watching Bravo I wouldn’t change the channel…did you watch?

      • Powell says:

        No I didn’t. Exactly what is it about?

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Ok it is seriously people sitting on a couch and watching TV-they have like 4 different groups of people and they watch shows and comment on them-not only Bravo shows-all kinds of shows…God it sounds so dumb now that I’m explaining…it is very dumb!!

  16. melthehound says:

    I don’t watch either of these shows. Can’t stand Leah Black and won’t give her the screen time, even if she isn’t there. I won’t give Nene’s rewedding any time either. However, in that last picture… Are they really registering for gifts for a ReWedding? Really? Taaaaaaaaaaaaacky. Just like NeNe. Tacky. Let’s be honest here. The reason they got divorced is so he could declare bankruptcy without her. There are all kinds of ways to rip off your creditors, they just found a different one.

  17. Amalfi says:

    My sister got married in Florida (Ft Laud so basically an hour from Miami) a few years ago. The wedding was at 2:00. Our limo pulled up around 2:40 and wedding started around 2:55pm.

    I was horrified. Everyone else who was local to the area (read: not my husband, children, my own parents) seemed to be just fine with this timetable — which also held true for mass, cocktail hour and dinner.

    I guess in Florida depending on where as well as the culture time (I am told) is just a suggestion or guideline. Oy.

  18. rabblerouser2010R says:

    Hi Pindy,
    Do you hear the sirens going off? Don’t be alarmed, I got a notice they were testing.

  19. Lulu says:

    Who’s fired and why and who’s coming back RHONJ (IMO!)

    We all know that Caroline is gone. POP allowed her to respectifully bow out. By know she knows that we know all about Al and his indiscrepencies (thank you Gwretchen!). Sooner or later Pop would have aired her dirty laundry. It’s best to leave on a high note versus a sour one.

    With Jaq it was a matter of time. It’s best for Nick that she now devote all of her time to him.

    Meho small insignifican role as a friend though I’d rather her and her creepy husband to go away they won’t. They are the evil hated villans. Who are just not interesting enough to carry their own storyline. Or since we all know that Meho reads blogs it will about how Joey abuses her. I wouldn’t put it past this lady to destroy her marriage just to have a storyline and relevance. Since we all know another season of blaming Tre will not bring in the ratings. If it’s a friend role they will be at fundraisers or parties. Though I have to wonder in the light of all the negative press her book has gotten. Wouldn’t she be a liability?

    Every RW brand needs a star and this one is Tre. Good for her to have the courage to keep going and filming despite looming uncertainty. She just made reality tv gold.

    Now the other one………………to insignificant to write anything about.

    • melthehound says:

      Let’s be fair.. Maybe Bravo can find some other teen boy to stand at a pool table while Joey stands behind him and dry humps him while talking about sex. What would the world be without another of MeGo’s shitty iTunes songs?

      I think Jac Is out and Dina is in… That’s what I read on the FB group a couple days ago.

      • LaineyLainey says:

        As Nancy says to me sometimes: R U OK
        That teen boy thing was random, random

        • melthehound says:

          Did you see the lost footage ? What I am referring to, is Joey and RIchy in the basement at Richy’s house, talking to young Joey about getting his first piece of action which, he claims hasn’t happened. The whole scene was rather creepy.

          Oh and yes, I’m okay.. Thanks for asking 😀

          • Lulu says:

            I sworn off NJ reunion and stuck to NMD’s spectacular recaps + everyone’s comments. Which is much more fun to read then watching the actual reunion. I unfortunately watched the “lost” footage. That was pedophile gross behavior what Joe Gorga was doing/saying to a MINOR!!! Sick!! What is wrong with POP to air that?!?!?! MTH I think from the book and what he did to Jeff Goldblum’s son there is some screw loose.

            Out of curiosity any social media site pick up on Joey Gorga’s Pedophile behavior?

    • Powell says:

      So since its Tre, Joey, Mel, a little Kathy w/Rosie mixed in & 3 ne HWs will Tre, Joey & Mel still be fighting & if so who will he run to cuz Caro is no longer there for him?

  20. rabblerouser2010R says:

    I was wondering if any of the Realtors here have hear anything more about Baby Joey and Melissa’s house.

    I know that none of us believed that it sold for full asking price and that if it did…there had to be something shady going on like a straw buyer. But still to date, I can’t see anything as the property being SOLD, even on the sights that listed it..it’s coming up as removed. I mean, if someone was able to sell that place for MORE than it’s valued at…wouldn’t they be screaming in big bold black letters SOLD?.

    Then I came across something called “deed in lieu of foreclosure” which basically someone gets to sign the house over to the bank/lender, It saves the borrower from having a foreclosure on their record…and the lenders from the lengthy and expensive process a forced foreclosure.

    Does anyone think something like this happened?

    • melthehound says:

      I don’t believe anything they say. I’ve never looked at any of the sites listing the house but when I’ve looked at properties, sites have always said something like Pending and then, no longer available.

      • rabblerouser2010R says:

        A lot of sites will also sometimes show a record of the last sale and for how much it sold for. The only record of sale that is coming up is when Joey bought the land off of his dad.

        • AZGirl says:

          Sounds like they had to short sale it?

          • cusi77 says:

            AZGirl_ It is the same that I am thinking… Short sale and they got nothing… which is better than foreclosure… I know this first hand!

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I think it that would still come up as a sale, since the house would still actually need to be sold. They just would see any equity in it. I also think when it’s a short sale, the house would sell for less than the amount owed on the mortgage.Them saying that the house sold at full asking price- despite being on the market for a while is huge red flag for me.

            This is a little different where they just turn everything over to the lender, then the lender figures out what they want to do with it.

          • Orson says:

            A “Deed in Lieu” is also more informally called “Jingle Mail”. I’m pretty sure there are sites that allow you to find out what a house sold for. It’s probably a public record, right? And even if you’re not a realtor I think you can access some level of Zillow for the comps.

            • cusi77 says:

              That is true, Orson. I just bought an apartment and I know the prices my neighbors bought and in what year searching in “Zillow”.
              O/T the apartment I bought to a Bank, last time it was sold (2005) it was sold for 100K MORE than what I paid for it!!!! Wowza!!!

  21. Cityside says:

    Cardinals 4
    Dodgers 2
    We win.

    Janis

  22. Powell says:

    Have you all watched OKtv? It’s on the Reelz channel & its like E!, ET, The Insider. I’ve never seen it. Radar Online is involved also. They do a celeb gossip segment. Interesting.

  23. Powell says:

    Adriana took another 2 hrs to out on that ugly dress and a head piece? That should have taken 20 minutes 30 minutes top. Adriana is just selfish. No one enjoyed her day but she, Fred, Alex & Marysol.

    • Lulu says:

      Powell was it me or did Adriana’s dress look dirty? I don’t know if it was the lighting?

      • Nancy says:

        It wasn’t the lighting. It did look dirty.

      • Powell says:

        Adriana’s dress looks dirty, sleazy, dusty, sneezy, sleepy, dopey & all the other dwarfs. Where did she get it?!?

        • chismosa says:

          Powell the blue dress ? I looked and looked – the tulle was dirty? It was such a beautiful dress …… Im shocked.

          • Nancy says:

            I think it looked dirty but really wasn’t. It was the colour of the tulle.

            • Just Wondering In Jersey says:

              I was surprised that she wanted everyone in white and then she comes out in a color. The gown was ugly and way over the top in my opinion.

              • chismosa says:

                Ok not going to speak to your opinion on the dress, cause to each his own- but it’s a new thing now – in bridal wear. Color on the bride. Attendants in white.

                Ps I hate sparkle and sequins.

  24. Powell says:

    Adrienne Tan Mom Maloof is on OKtv. Guess what she has out? A vodka. I’ll give her that though cuz her family was in the spirits biz for a very long time.

  25. Powell says:

    OMG!!!!!!!! Lance Bass N Sync & Rosie Piere-Kathy’s sister will be hosting the Red Carpet pre-show of the American Music Awards. Shut the effing front door!!!!!! Whaaaaaattttt?!?!?!

    • rabblerouser2010R says:

      I won’t be watching.

      But I just had a horrible vision for a spin off “Everything is coming up Rosie”. Ugg. Make it stop.

    • chismosa says:

      There’s big hoopla because the very demure and high end Miley Cyrus will be performing again and she’s claiming she’ll do something even crazier than at the VMAS.

      Ratings ploy

  26. Powell says:

    See ladies this is why I no longer like Loubitons. Because of NeNe & the HWs who think there are no other designer shoes. Do ya’ll remember a few yrs ago a two from I think the spirits company who makes Ciroque champagne said “we don’t advertise Ciroque to Rappers” or however he said it. His point was the Rappers were drinking it in their music videos & he felt that took the class & prestige away from the champagne. That’s how I feel about Loubitons, Birkin bags, Herve’ Leger dresses & one shoulder dresses. The HWs have ruined those iconic fashion pieces in my eyes.

    • chismosa says:

      Powell both Beth and Lisa – Miami wore the same HL dress on WWH. Plastic Jamaican Barbie looked better IMO

  27. Powell says:

    I need to watch Reelz tv more. I used to watch it a lot. Another good show EP Daily. It’s again like E!, ET etc but they look at movies in the theater now, tv shows, games and trends in technology & social media. Interesting. They showed bits of the movie w/Liv (can’t think of her last name), where she’s the mom & her family lives in a house w/paranormal activity. The real life daughters where at the premiere & said what a great job they did making it cuz it’s exactly what happened to them. Oooh. Sound goood.

  28. djprincessc says:

    I think I am the only one who still likes Bethenny and Brandi. I never understood the backlash against Bethenny and still really don’t. To me she’s the same person that she was in the beginning; loud, sarcastic, bitchy, doesn’t hold back. I don’t understand why she would be any different concerning her marriage? Jason isn’t a victim, hes a grown man who knew exactly what he was getting when they got married. Its both of their faults, just because he’s quiet and she speaks up doesn’t make her MORE guilty. I think we all know that when a woman is going through a divorce the gloves come off and I don’t even remember her saying anything horrible about him. He wasn’t the love of her life?? If thats how she feels, then why can’t she say it?? I know I’m in the minority. I still think shes a great business woman and I love that she never gave up.

    Brandi is still the same to me as well. Loud, vulgar, trashy, a drunken mess. lol. I think shes a very emotional person and lets the emotions run and take her, then she goes “oh shit” and realizes what shes said and done. She thinks with her heart, not with her brain. If someone wrongs her (in her eyes) and shes hurt, there is no holding her back. I think its been pretty apparent with the way she’s dealt with Leann and Eddie but she behaves that way with friends too. I still think shes funny, I do wish she would try and stop with the drunk mess stuff though.

    • Jules says:

      No you are not alone. I like them both. Never stopped liking Bethenny. Really admire her getting her business on.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      dj-I’m with you on Bethenny-but I never liked Brandi and I think people may be growing tired of her antics-her life seems to play on a loop-always the same mistakes.

      • cusi77 says:

        I am 100% with you DJ, Jules and JNNTJ. In regards to Bethenny… With Brandi 99% with you… I am surprised that she might probably bite the hand of people who had been so supportive like Ken and Lisa (We don’t know for sure IF it is true the rumors and tweets and IF just promotion for the New Season) so I reserve that 1 % to dislike Brandi next season.

      • I like both Bethenny and Brandi. They both may be crass at times but they both don’t hold back when they want to make a point. I love how Bethenny dresses even if she is a skinny mini and eventually Brandi will get her life back together.

    • ladebra says:

      I agree with you on Bethenny, dj. She’s the person she always showed us – she’s brash and loud, and sometimes inappropriate (not as much as in the early days). But I like her. And I admire her success and drive. I liked Brandi’s attitude, but never enjoyed drunk Brandi. I am withholding judgment on Brandi this season until the show comes on, but I hope she doesn’t disappoint.

    • VV says:

      S3 of Bethenny show did it for me. It was also the season when she became instant millionaire. IMO, she changed with $$.

      Brandi just changed with her newly found celebrity. Her twitter rants and antics are just too much for me AND she is bashing The Queen, nobody messes with the Queen!

      • djprincessc says:

        How VV?? Wasn’t Bethenny going on food crawls and hanging out with the chubby guy that couldn’t find a girlfriend?? Wasn’t that AFTER her success?? I can’t remember.

        I do love Lisa, but not to the point where I think shes untouchable. For me that person is Teresa. Hahahhaha…

        • VV says:

          It’s her entire demeanor, I can see on interviews. I could see a change. I think it was her old pal Marianne Harvey who said that she change once her income bracket change or something in those lines and SHE would know since they were close friends.

          I don’t like people that are ungrateful, Brandi has become that. Success has gone to her head. Read her tweets.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        VV how do you figure Bethenny became an instant millionaire?

        • VV says:

          You know what I mean. Poor before the show no money to pay rent ( her words, not mine ) then Bean deal happened, Boom! You have millions on your bank account,

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Now I know what you mean but I don’t think it was instant-she worked her ass off to get there.

            • VV says:

              She got lucky. She had a partner to help her and an idea. She had Bravo to help promote. I don’t think she worked her butt off. It was one of those things when all the planets were aligned and she struck gold. IMO.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                Oh come on now-she worked her ass off-she is a success because she works her ass off-I don’t know how you see it as luck. She PICKED that partner and together they made millions-in a business that is hard to break into. You can say plenty about what is known of her character but to say that she got lucky really diminishes what a success her business is.

                • VV says:

                  Give me specifics of “working hard” I want details. Being filmed by Bravo? I mean. How? Did she get up at 4AM in the morning and started hitting the liquor stores pitching her products? I mean she had assistants since we’ve known her. How did she work hard?

                • djprincessc says:

                  I can’t even reply to that I’m shocked. She said before that the liquor business was/is a MANS business and she got rejected a million times. I even remember her saying she sold all her shit to pay her bills (handbags, clothes) she did what she had to do. I think its funny saying she got lucky and also a little insulting but whatever.

          • chismosa says:

            If she was poor I can tell you as someone who lived in that vicinity – she wouldn’t have lived on the block she did.
            She’d be in a walkup in Brooklyn.

            Pennies! Pobrecita!

            • Powell says:

              Not that there’s anything wrong w/that. I lived in a nice area when I lived in Brooklyn as a child & Alex & Simon live there & their walk up brownstone & others like it cost a pretty penny.

              • chismosa says:

                Powell Brooklyn is amazing please don’t get me wrong. —-

                I’m saying that back then- 2007? 2008? That is where prices were lower. …..
                nothing wrong – just she shouldn’t claim poverty or close to poverty when she’s in the higher end zip codes of manhattan proper.
                That’s all I meant.

                Please Brooklyn is amazing. Alex and Simon’s townhouse is probably worth MILLIONS right now.

    • djprincessc says:

      Ok well I’m glad that I’m not the only one!! Yay!! lol. I really don’t get it?! The way ppl have turned on her, not just here but on other blogs/websites. Its like damn! What did she do?? Its not like she’s killed anyone! lol.

      And I can appreciate that Cusi, I agree with you about Brandi, I really hope there is a BIG reason for her behavior with Lisa and Ken when they did support her. I’m gonna watch and see what happens too. 🙂

      • Nancy says:

        Hi dj…I was through with Bethenny when she threw Julie under the bus.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          And yet-she and Julie are still great friends.

          • Nancy says:

            That’s because Julie is a bigger person.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Or maybe it’s because they are real friends and not just TV friends? I don’t recall Betheny throwing her under the bus but we all see things differently.

            • djprincessc says:

              I was going to say, aren’t they still friends?? How did Bethenny throw her under the bus?? I heard that here before but Idk what she did exactly.

              • Nancy says:

                She made a really nasty comment about Julie when she gave her 2 wk notice.
                Julie worked her a** off for Bethenny so IMHO it was mean and below the belt.

              • Nancy says:

                One more thing. Why was it necessary for Bethenny to put out there that Jason wasn’t the love of her life? It was mean and unnecessary and she wanted it to hurt. Bryn
                will hear or read that one day. That didn’t cross Bethenny’s mind? Obviously not.

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  Nancy when Bethenny said that on her show it was not mean or hurtful-it was a small part of a big conversation.

                  • Nancy says:

                    If there wasn’t a Bryn I’d say go for it but that’s not the case. Would you have
                    said that knowing your daughters would read that one day?

                • chismosa says:

                  She’s finding little ways nancy to dig at Jason as she can’t legally discuss the divorce. Like yesterday saying divorce was brutal and she wouldn’t suggest it to ANYONE in a panel about whether to fight for your marriage. ??!!??!!??!!!
                  The woman was married 4 years on the panel and everyone was telling her that was nothing.
                  Bwahahahahahahhahahahaha!
                  I mean come ON

                  • Nancy says:

                    This is why you don’t get pregnant with a man you hardly know little alone
                    marry him. Both Jason and Bethenny need to grow up and get on with their lives.
                    All this crap that Bryn has been exposed to will always be there sorry to say.

              • melthehound says:

                She was less than cordial towards Julie when Julie left to pursue other things. I don’t know if it’s throwing under the bus, but it didn’t appear as if there was a deep friendship there. It seemed again, that Bethenny had used her all those years and when Julie wanted something different, a life of her own, Bethenny was done with her. As I said though, I never liked her but she really lost me with the last season of her show, All of her constant whining that her personal troubles are someone else’s fault. Like him or not, Jason was right when he said she was damaged goods.

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  Yes Jason was right-but he used that against her-that’s not love.

                  • Nancy says:

                    I’ll agree with that.

                  • chismosa says:

                    And she was exec producer and I’m not sure which production co was that – splice and dice may have started years before us here caught on.

                    We never saw the START of the fight on the way to the helipad.

                    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                      And Jason never denied that he said that-I don’t know what is it about Jason that makes people want to stick up for him..I find him to be a real mamas boy with some serious self esteem issues-his wife’s success made him feel like less of a man and I don’t think he was much of a man to begin with!

                • VV says:

                  I have a different opinion on why Julie left. I think Julie who stuck with B when B had nothing and working for free felt under appreciated when B hit the big time. Perhaps, she expected a promotion or a pay raise. We discussed this on the blog and I think even WSL agreed to that. Bethenny is not generous. Why would Julie leave when things she help from the ground up made the big time? I never bought the story she wanted to go back to boyfriend and home. I think that she realized that this was as far as she could go working for her stingy boss. IMO.

                  • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                    And there she is in her small hometown married to that same guy she left NYC for-if she wanted to go higher she wouldn’t have left NYC-she didn’t like it here-she wanted to go back home. And when did Bethenny become stingy? We know Julie’s salary?

                    • chismosa says:

                      On her twitter she says she is Pittsburgh and NYC based.

                      VV totally agree.
                      Like Rachel Zoe’s assistant. Never made a VP or whatever when she hit it big

              • Nancy says:

                dj…the Dodgers are ahead. So happy. 🙂

          • chismosa says:

            I don’t care WHAT you have going on in your life you can’t hire a private helicopter or plane to get you to your former assistant’s wedding ? And the god daughter was not a flower girl or something ?

            Smells 💩

            /////jmho

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Hold up girlfriend-you know for fact she wasn’t at Julie’s wedding? I scoured the internet to find proof of her going or not going and I came up empty!!

              • chismosa says:

                They posted pics when she visited ny for a bachelorette and they showed all how nostalgic she was.
                But no pics of Beth at the wedding? Makes zero sense to me

                I think Julie is a class act and helping B maintain the aura that they’re still super close.

                • Nancy says:

                  Ditto. I couldn’t find any pictures either.

                • VV says:

                  She didn’t go. Massive tweets went B’s way asking about it and she ignored each and everyone.
                  She probably sent flowers and a SGM gift basket 😆

                  • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                    So b/c she didn’t tweet about or answer tweets about she didn’t go? I don’t think that enough proof for me…but imagine she did tweet about it and post pictures of herself at the wedding…then what? She would be raked over the coals for trying to steal the day from her poor assistant. Bethenny is in a spot now where she can’t win-if she’s smart she will keep doing what she is doing.

                    • Nancy says:

                      “Keep doing what she’s doing?” Her show is tanking.

                    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                      Nancy-I was talking about how she can’t win-damned if she does kind of thing-NOT her talk show.

                    • VV says:

                      B tweeted pics of Julie’s bachelorette party and tweeted about it. Why wouldn’t she do the same for the the BIG day!!!!! Does not make sense!…

    • Orson says:

      I’ve got no beef with Bethenny. She’s assertive and sometimes crosses the line into aggressive but everyone does that occasionally. She may be feeling “in over her head” with all this business stuff but that’s understandable, she trained as a chef, not a business person. So it’s not unusual for someone in that situation to get defensive. And that would also apply to LOTS of HWs with their sudden Bravolebrity.

      As for Brandi, she’s still the same as she was before. I’m getting annoyed at her lack of filters. She’s been doing this for 2 seasons already; will she ever learn from her past missteps?

    • chismosa says:

      Hey DJ! (Play my favorite song) 
      I don’t know about BBB, I’ll be very armchair about that when BH is on since I don’t watch her but as for Beth:
      I get what you mean about a personality is a personality is a personality ( which as you can see I tell my brother to go get sometimes)
      And the Manzos are punks. Lol
      And B has always had her personality. I get that, I do. But– life changes happen, big events, showcases of how you treat others,etc come to light. Behind the scenes stuff (and not from gossip but from knowing actual people who know people that work there) – and one can change the opinion of this person. 
      I think that the medium of TV show is also a big thing here – changing from reality tv starlet who let everyone into her life with her quips and all – vs this daytime talk show which is all about “”US”” the viewer, as she says. Or where she has to share screen time with other (C/D/Z-list) stars. I feel anytime someone says something to her on her show her next sentence is chopping off the guest and saying – “yeah in MY life when that happens” – um, let the guest speak and continue their point of view ! Doesn’t make you relatable or cute when your guest is not shined on. It’s a delicate dance and I don’t know if she’s got the moves. 
      I didn’t watch the super Skype session yet so will likely say something tomorrow. 
      But I do see what you mean about sticking with someone you liked at first and all- like I love Ramona always have, always will- now if she was on some daytime show talking at viewers not sure how id feel. I may change. 
      Hugs to you ! Xxoo
      💏

    • Powell says:

      DJP a lot of us still like B. Many of us don’t like what’s going on w/the divorce on her & Jason’s side. Brandi is getting on many of our nerves w/the STFU on Twitter when she’s
      the one tweeting stuff about Lisa & we’re tired of her falling down naked drunken ways.

  29. melthehound says:

    For me, with Bethenny, it’s not a matter of still or no longer, it’s a matter of never did. With Brandi, it’s a matter of the drunken hot mess. It’s played out to the Nth degree for me.

  30. cusi77 says:

    Thank you for the Blogs NoMore!!!! I love them! I am not watching Nene but I keep up reading your Blog… I know I would be really upset to see all that waste of money… Wow! If I would be watching my blood pressure will be to the ceiling , some things upset me, but unnecessary spending is pretty close to number one.

    Love all your comments everyone! I’ve been reading and laughing to tears!

  31. melthehound says:

    I have infected the blog… Pardon me if I slap myself on the back for a moment, but I get a real kick out of seeing some of my phrases and sayings being repeated around here 😀

  32. designernailsdiana says:

    I think I need a crib sheet to remember all the nicknames people here give the HW’s and the other shows. My particular one is STFUBrandi and ShanaNotTaylorLyingLipsMageeGrifter (I hope I got that right. MTH you do come up with some fairly creative phrases. Tonight is Survivor so I’ll try to watch, but look forward to your blog as you inject some snark too.

    • Orson says:

      Well, we’re going to have to review the NY and A one’s soon enough. You think they’ll try another city for a new franchise? Maybe Chicago?

      • designernailsdiana says:

        Chicago?? Do they have Rich B*tches there too? Why not Dallas or a Texas town? Get a great accent with cowboy hats and horses

      • Lulu says:

        Orson they already did a Chicago “trial” but found us boring. Funny right!?! I don’t know in what neighborhood. But if it was a “i’m better then you but shhh leveraged broke” Lincoln Park??? Or maybe Bucktown???

        • Nancy says:

          I’ve been to Chicago once and thought it was beautiful.

        • BB says:

          I think Mob Wives Chicago also tanked. There isn’t a second season of that is there?

          • chismosa says:

            Speaking of which, where is Mob Wives ???
            Hmmmm

            And the jailhouse wedding.
            I think they added a new chick and she was in the local papers for something a few weeks ago

        • windycitywondering2 says:

          I think they showed Little Italy the most as a neighborhood but the clubs and restaurants used were downtown. The whole premise of Chicago mafia princesses types was stupid.

          • cusi77 says:

            ITA, WINDY!

          • lulu says:

            Agree the “real” Italian mob is not in “little Italy. No where near it!!! That’s what made it laughable. What’s even funnier “Chicago mobs” don’t advertise. You would never catch then anywhere near a camera!!

      • atlasxxiv says:

        They tried filming a RHO Scottsdale but couldn’t get any women that anyone cared about.

  33. Powell says:

    I turned the channel & saw NeNe telling her ladies they were getting botox. That is too funny. And did you know that Jen from BB Wives is a bridesmaid? Interesting. She left BBW & is now on a HW wedding.

  34. Nancy says:

    LA Dodgers win!!!!!!!!! 🙂 See you Friday Cityside.

  35. BB says:

    Dodgers won today. Sorry Cityside. Congrats Nancy.

  36. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    VV-do you know how to bring Instagram posts here??

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Dina’s daughter is signing some papers….HW release forms or not???

      • cusi77 says:

        Is she already 18? Why “Manzo”? Not even Dina is Manzo anymore… Okay, I understand… if she puts her real last name, nobody knows who the Heavens she is! My guess is she is signing the contract with RHONJ… No Caro and no Chris and Jax, Dina is filming with Teresa, if Teresa has to ..Hmm “Go away”, Dina gets to be the star… What a way to save NJ from Bravo!!!!

        • chismosa says:

          On my god she is Manzo??? Ughhhh. WHY

          what a slap in the face to her dad.
          Dina has no reason to be a Manzo now either.
          Kill me now I have to get prepped for more Lurkitas

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Maybe it’s not Bravo paper work…maybe it’s it’s it’s…oh crap I got nothin’

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              Idk what’s with the Manzo as her last name but I’m guessing it’s just b/c it’s recognized? She uses it for Twitter and Instagram….it’s a little weird right???

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            Kind of like how Alli (JIll’s daughter) would say she was a Zarin…when she is not.

          • atlasxxiv says:

            Her name’s not Manzo. She tweeted a photo of the inside of her car and her name is on her Bluetooth screen, it’s very Greek and is not at a loss for vowels. I think it’s smart keeping her name off the show if she can.

            • chismosa says:

              Hi Atlas, yes she’s Cypriot (I’m greek) – so her name is likely 15 letters long and probably ends in -ou

              I still say it’s shady. She wants to be in the spotlight- she’s signing on for next season then bring it ON. Don’t be fake.
              Lol

    • VV says:

      Yes, it should be the same as Twitter. Look for the Ellipsis ⚫️⚫️⚫️ ( three dots) tap or click on it and select what you want to do with it. 😃

    • VV says:

      I actually like Lexi. She’s a good kid, very down to earth and good student. I don’t follow Dina on Twitter but check her TL every now and then and she interacts with her daughter very often.

      I have yet to see a tweet from cousins or aunt Caroline congratulating her if indeed those are Bravo docs.

      • VV says:

        BTW, ever since she got on Twitter she’s been “LexiManzo”. Perhaps, Tommy adopted her.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        VV–I wanted to post from Instagram but I just went to her Twitter instead.

        • VV says:

          Did you click on the IG link from her Tweet? That should take you to IG then look for dots.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Ok I will try that-thanks VV….do you notice that I’m always bring Tweets here now…once you gave me the knowledge I became twitter posting obsessed!!!!

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            VV-sorry I’m annoying you but you are way savvy with this stuff-when I click the 3 dots on IG it says EMBED…WTH does that mean??

            • VV says:

              LOL.. Think of it as is it copying the code from IG page so that when you paste it here the Internet knows to find it. I hope it makes sense…

  37. chismosa says:

    Jill- ASH-
    Listen if B went to Julie’s wedding I don’t see how her most ardent haters can fault that. I would totally understand. We all saw the love they had for eachother and how vital julie was business-wise as well. What bad could there possibly be to that ?

    I totally get your point but to go to that wedding is a win win all the way.

    Jmo

    Love ya Ash. Please don’t send for me 🙅

  38. chismosa says:

    Does Burt propose to the armadillo tonight ? Anyone know ? 🐲💍💎

    I have to dvr 😦

  39. chismosa says:

    Gross. 🚽🚽🚽🚽barf 🐞🐞🐞 is being filmed

    Rosie’s getting paid so that’s nice.

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/teresa-giudice-real-housewives-new-jersey-contracts-signed-who-else-another-season/

    • VV says:

      Looks like RO is repeating what Allabouttrh site reported a few days ago.

      I do like IF true “that Tre is the second highest HW” Meho must be fuming.

    • Cartwheels says:

      I just wish Bravo will make a leap of faith and just keep Rosie and send Kathy and Ritchie packing, I can certainly do without that disgusting guy. I have always thought that Rosie by herself (away from her sister and BIL) is a much nicer person, a funny one at that. As much as I despise Joe Guidice and his total lack of respect for the laws, I have enjoyed his segments with Rosie, those two really have been one of the few funny outlets that this show was so much lacking.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Joe and Rosie in those clips were hysterical-they just acted dumb and laughed. They didn’t care how they came off b/c they were enjoying themselves…I found it very amusing

  40. chismosa says:

    Calling PRINCESS PINDY:

    What is your gravatar? Leonardo Dicaprio? Huh?

    Muchos nachos

  41. Cartwheels says:

    I never even considered the possibility that there was any problems between Bethenny and Julie as they seem super close and still very good friends, whether Bethenny went to the wedding or not , there might be plenty of reasons why not, maybe she wanted that day to be just for Julie. If she went her detractors would be saying that she was trying to steal Julie’s spotlight or using Julie as a publicity stunt, so she would be damned as well. If Julie is not upset about then why are others making this such an act of betrayal? I always think about that popular saying “ If you don’t like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over in your lap and you won’t mind. ”

    Julie Plake ‏@julieplake 8 Aug
    The weekend is finally here! I am so excited I can’t sleep! #weddingweekend #married

    Bethenny Frankel ‏@Bethenny 7 Sep
    Having the BEST girls day ever in my old hood: lunch, playground, visited my old doorman & salon @julieplake @theglammy Retweeted by Julie Plake

    Julie Plake ‏@julieplake 10 Sep
    So proud and happy for @Bethenny -former boss & mentor! At her show/studio today and am speechless! It is her moment! #sohappy

    Julie Plake ‏@julieplake 10 Sep
    It’s almost time! @bethennytv #moments

    Julie Plake ‏@julieplake 20 Sep
    you can see a wedding pic from my awesome photographer @BerezinaMariia on @Bethenny episode today 🙂 xo

    Julie Plake ‏@julieplake 20 Sep
    Xo miss you! RT @Bethenny: Loved getting to see @JuliePlake on the show Friday! I’m so happy for you.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Cartwheels- I love the spoon thing-it’s so true!!!

      Here is a story about Patti Stanger and her opinion on Bethenny and her divorce-I don’t know why Patti would think anyone cares what she has to say but the comment section is pretty great

      http://www.allabouttrh.com/expert-matchmaker-patti-stanger-slams-bethenny-for-saying-jason-hoppy-was-not-the-love-of-her-life-calls-it-sick/

      • Cartwheels says:

        LOL, love it.

        I am glad to see that not everybody is blind to Jason’s game, this is the comment that I liked the most:

        ” I just can’t even imagine what would had happened if Bethenny didn’t have a pre nup, Jason would be effectively taking her to the cleaners by now.” – Mary

        I agree 100%, even with a prenup he is fighting tooth and nails, can you imagine without one? Bethenny’s money will be Bryn’s patrimony 100% while any money Jason gets will be for him and his future family (because he most definitely will have one) , he is still young, he can continue working, he will have to adjust and get use to live again with his small income but he sure will be okay. I mean they were married only for a couple of years so why should Bethenny bank roll the rest of his life with her money?

  42. lulu says:

    Who’s watching top hooker?

  43. Cartwheels says:

    I do like Bethenny, never cared too much for her during RHNY but I got very curious when I learned about the Beam sale and just couldn’t have enough of financial articles explaining some details of the transaction. That is when I realized Bethenny was not the typical bimbo HW that Bravo had presented in RHOC or even RHNY (maybe with the exception of Ramona even if not at the same level).
    I do admire strong women but mostly I admire women who have the guts to involve their selves in a male dominated business world and come out on top. To say that this was just a touch of luck is not only petty but not fair. Bethenny worked her tail off, it is was just luck, why there has no other Bravo HW able to replicate that? Bethenny not only developed the idea but he looked investors, nobody was willing to risk, but that didn’t stop her from trying. She knew that only a strong partner would make it happen and that is why she found a way to present her idea to David Kanbar. yes, he was the financier of her cocktail but if he invested it was because he was smart enough to know that this investment had enormous potential. Bethenny had faith in her product and she fight for it , she made it happen.
    Yes, Bethenny used Bravo for the exposure and why not? so she is now penalized for whining at Bravo’s exploitation game? Bethenny was the first one to successfully peddle her products and Bravo didn’t see it coming that is why she is probably the only one who has never had to give Bravo any share of the money she makes, simply because it was not in her contract, it is after Bethenny’s success that Bravo now has a clause about getting some % of the HW sales.

    Bethenny was also a pioneer in using her time on TV as a promotion platform, after her, all the other HWs have tried to follow in her footsteps but except for not even a handful, the others have failed miserably, I guess they weren’t that “lucky?

  44. Cartwheels says:

    Bethenny is not everybody’s cup of tea, she has never wanted to be, she is who she is and I appreciate that she doesn’t sugarcoat it , she is a bitch, OCD, anal about most things, and that is fine with me, I rather the worst version of herself but real than a made up version for public consumption that is absolutely fake.

    I thought that today in the interview with Ellen there were a lot of hints about that coming from Ellen, Bethenny is who she is, while Jason pretended all along to be this nice and honorable guy, but nice and honorable guys do not go about hacking your emails or taping your phone conversation with your lawyers, decent guys don’t go about hunkering in an apartment that her money bought, nice guys do not taped his wife’s employees in the hope to find something incriminatory that will force his wife to settle and give him more money in the divorce, decent guys do not go about giving salacious stories to the gossip rags with all the details of your divorce and hiding under “inside sources.” Jason portrayed a character on TV, but he is showing that in real life by his actions that he was not that person. Jason is showing that the “perfect guy” was a character he played on TV, the real one is this one who doesn’t hesitate to hire a financial auditor to trace all of his ex-wife money to see how he can get the most, even after signing a pre nup.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      The pre nup is the big thing-he signed it. If he regrets it now-too bad so sad Jason. I find it funny that people think this is a custody battle-it isn’t. It’s MONEY it’s all about money but somebody put it out there that it’s about sole custody and every media out let ran with that. It’s sad but it shows Jason for who he really is-he wants money and Bethenny has plenty-he is just waiting it out and making things miserable-taping people and spying on emails etc…ya know like a real man…whatever Jason!!

      • Cartwheels says:

        Of course this is about money not custody, if anybody lives in the state of NY and has been though a divorce, they know that the state of NY pretty much requires (unless both parents agree and even then because it is not practical) that one of the parents be named the primary custodian of the child, but in splitting the child’s time with each parent as evenly as possible, sometimes even as split as 51-49% so whether Bethenny or Jason get primary custody (BTW Radar posting 10 times in each article against Bethenny that she has requested sole custody is laughable because they were one of the first outlets who printed B’s divorce petition where it clearly says she requests for “primary custody” not sole) they both will have plenty of time with Bryn.

        But Jason knows that Bethenny doesn’t want to upset Bryn’s world so with primary custody comes probably the 5M apartment which most likely will be Bryn’s primary residence and the cherry on top, the hefty child support payment, enough to made his life fairly easy. I just wish he was more upfront about it instead of running the rumor mill that Bethenny wants to banish him from his daughter’s life as the excuse for pretty much going into the full blown divorce battle with Bethenny.

        Jason signed a prenup, a prenup that protected any money made from SGC, past, present and future, and that is the big sale item, anything else is small change compare to that. Jason is holding for as long as he can in the hopes that Bethenny has finally had enough of the bad publicity and gives up to his demands being that he knows that legally he doesn’t have one leg where to stand. I do hope Bethenny stands her ground, talk show or no talk show and doesn’t give him one more penny that he is entitled to. The talk show probably wasn’t going to work anyway even if she didn’t divorce so just might well hold onto all the money she can. Nobody knows how far that money will go.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I agree with every single thing you wrote!!

          • Nancy says:

            I thought Bethenny’s long term goal was to come out here in LA to do her talk show
            and that’s why she wants full custody. No?

            • Cartwheels says:

              Bethenny and her lawyers would never be so stupid as to request sole or full custody when they know that there is absolute zero chance that they will get it. Nobody has spoken about legal custody so I am fairly sure that this will be share, this is the kind that would require that Jason approves (he never will) a move to LA, the only custody that is in dispute is the physical one, the one that decides which parent is named primary.

              http://info.legalzoom.com/joint-legal-vs-joint-physical-custody-new-york-state-20770.html
              This article describe custody issues in the state of NY and there were some interesting points
              “In New York, all custody orders include some sort of visitation schedule, unless the court deems one parent unfit. Sometimes a non-custodial parent might have such ample visitation that it would seem the parties have a joint physical custody arrangement. However, even if parents share time with their child on an almost equal basis, one is still the primary parent and the other is still the non-custodial parent”

              • Nancy says:

                I thought both of them requested full custody. I just hope they both grow up
                and do what is best for Bryn. I feel for the little girl.

                • Cartwheels says:

                  Neither of them has requested full custody, that is a myth perpetuated by ROL, the petition clearly states primary but IMO they probably will be sharing Bryn’s time almost evenly, just like they are doing right now.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              No-that was a rumor that took off-she never asked for sole custody-which ROL knew but they used that word anyway-Bethenny and Jason both asked for primary custody-not the same as sole.

              • Nancy says:

                Thanks.

              • Laineylainey says:

                So what we’re saying is that JASON wants custody…OF THE MONEY!!!!!!

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  Yes-that would be a YES!!!

                • Cartwheels says:

                  LMAO, absolutely.
                  Jason knows that this is probably his only shot at a very good amount of money that can afford him a nice life, he has grown accustomed and fond of his “golfing trips” and having plenty of time off from work to travel to PA every other weekend , I do understand that it must be difficult for him to go back to his much simpler and rather frugal life but maybe this is the push he needs to motivate himself and make it on his own.

  45. Cartwheels says:

    Brandi? I sort of liked her until she revealed the secret of the surrogacy, there is absolutely nothing IMO that could justify that, when you involve children in your stupid TV BS that is crossing the line big time, then the made up lawsuit and the continue sustaining that she indeed was being sued and then she got a C&D letter when both instances are false told me all I needed to know about Brandi, she can’t be trusted. I disliked her before her feud with Lisa and it causes me great pleasure that these two are clashing and that their mind games are coming to light.

    I still have a soft spot for Lisa though because she is a master manipulator and I have known that all along, but at least she goes about it with some finesse and subtlety that I can’t but respect. Lisa would never be caught death showing her tampon string or half naked. Lisa is also a bitch, nobody gets to where she is at by being a pushover, but Lisa knows how to hide it much better than the others and I can’t fault her for that.

    • VV says:

      Can you give me an example of Lisa’s manipulation?

      • Cartwheels says:

        I can give you more than one:
        1) Lisa manipulated the other HW at the beginning of season 2 to shun Brandi because she was Cedric’s friend and “who knows what her intentions are” , mostly all of them ostracized Brandi , then behind cameras Lisa had a private talk with Brandi (per Lisa’s own blog) and they made truce and became friends before the trip to Hawaii. That is all fine and dandy but in doing so Lisa left the others (specially Kyle) looking like petty morons because apparently there was no reason for them to be mean to the new girl.

        2) Lisa in season 3 reunion with no shame said that she didn’t believe Kyle, called her a liar about what Yolanda has said about her in Paris, yet in an article in omg.yahoo she revealed herself that another meeting behind cameras has happened and Yolanda had given her the heads up about what she said about her, Lisa knew she was lying when she said that she didn’t believe Kyle but she was more interested in making Kyle look bad than in the truth

        http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/lisa-vanderpump-talks-real-housewives-vanderpump-rules-butter-230423519.html
        “Regarding the accusation from Kyle and Kim Richards that Yolanda Foster was trash-talking Vanderpump behind her back – which the sisters brought up on the reunion – Vanderpump reveals that her longtime friend gave her a heads up about it before the Richards did. “She kind of told me that she said something before that,” reveals Vanderpump”

        So when Lisa said that as a reality TV persona you should be real, I LOL, if she was real, she wouldn’t hash all her issues behind doors, she would do it in front of the cameras.

        3) Lisa backed Brandi up in her lie about the lawsuit, Lisa said she had seen the letter, so that could had never happened because then Lisa would had noticed that the letter wasn’t directed at Brandi. Lisa knew IMO that there was never a lawsuit against Brandi, yet she episode after episode kept helping Brandi to perpetuate this lie because it was convenient to her purposes of punishing Adrienne for saying that she sold articles to the press.

        In the battle between Lisa and Brandi if I must choose then I choose Lisa’s corner hands down, but I am not absolutely blind to Lisa’s mind games. She is just so elegant and effortless in her moves that they don’t seem too mean, but in know that Lisa will fight dirty if she needs to.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Lisa knows how to keep her hands clean-she so swift and clever in her ways that people never expect that she is capable of shade. (And by people I mean other HWs) by the time they figure out her game she changes the rules….it wasn’t only her tag line it’s her life.

        • Laineylainey says:

          Maybe inLisa’s case, I’d rather call it persuasion rather than manipulation. She has the power of persuasion.

        • VV says:

          Let’s see I disagree with point #1, #2, #3. I don’t see “manipulation” on any of your points. sorry.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            You don’t believe #3? Lisa herself admitted to #3-if she knew Yolanda talked smack about her why did she lie at the reunion-if it wasn’t to make Kyle look bad and manipulate the viewers and the situation then why did she lie?

            • VV says:

              Kyle doesn’t need anybody’s help to look bad, she does a pretty good job at it herself.
              I mean is Lisa the Svengali HW? She’s smarter than the rest and does not mean manipulation. S2 was everybody against Lisa because she was breakout star, got a spinoff and was very popular with viewers. The manipulation comment started with Kyle who was simply p*ssed that Lisa had stolen the show from what Kyle perceived as her franchise.

              • Laineylainey says:

                Remember the tea party! They were all supposed to go after Lisa, remember? Kyle was so mad that day.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                But why did she lie about the Yolanda thing? Never mind Kyle-why did Lisa act like Yolanda didn’t say those things if she already knew she did?

                • VV says:

                  How is that manipulation? Just like we scrutinize the editing on Jersey. There is a lot of on BH as well. The scene has to fit the storyline. I still don’t see how Lisa “manipulated” to what end? For what?
                  Kyle’s behavior at game night was cruel. Was that Lisa’s doing too?

                  • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                    -Lisa lied about the Yolanda thing-why? She manipulated the situation by lying-why didn’t she just say she knew Yolanda said those things about her? She knew by saying she didn’t believe Kyle that no one else would either-that was a game-she was playing a game.
                    Why would you bring up game night? What does Kyles behavior that night have to do with Lisa?

                    • VV says:

                      Game Night = example if Kyle vile behavior.
                      Withholding information that was meant to hurt you s manipulation. I think not!

                    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                      Why do we need an example of Kyle’s behavior? This is about Lisa-bringing up Kyle to show how bad she does not take away the fact that Lisa knowingly manipulated the situation-you can bring up every rotten thing you think Kyle did-it doesn’t change anything about Lisa. Lisa lied-that’s a fact she admitted to. Why? To manipulate people into thinking that Kyle made that shit up.

  46. Nancy says:

    Great news…a deal has been passed. Great news for Powell. 🙂

  47. designernailsdiana says:

    I’m just now watching the Miami Meltdown. When Lisa said You’re all taking too long (they were getting into their second 20’s get up) Marysol and Alexia walk in both wearing the white dresses but Lisa had changed already then as soon as she says your hair looks fine Marysol says I have a special hair do (BAM) she’s magically in her second look while they begin the stupid discussion about Lea n Marysol. Playing with timelines again Bravo! But this blonde has good eyes :evil laugh inserted here:

  48. VV says:

    Brandi must be feeling the backlash. She’s tweeting pictures of her kids. She hardly ever tweets pics if her kids (I think out of privacy).
    Housewife 101 – when public is against you, tweet cute pictures of your kids.

    • Laineylainey says:

      Oh wow…yeah, very telling. Tre 101. .The basics at Real Housewives community College.

      • VV says:

        I knew the Tre reference would be made. The difference is Tre has ALWAYS posted pics and tweeted about her daughters all the time. Go back and check her pics from years ago. Brandi hardly ever does and again, I think it was more out if privacy.
        She’s getting a little beating on Tweeter due to Lusa bashing. Cute kids pics always help.

        • Laineylainey says:

          VV, my reference to Tre was not meant as a diss. And no, I will not go back and look at anything…I never liked to do homework which is why I’m sitting here talking about Tre And Brandi instead of performing amazing mathematical calculations that will enable us to travel through time via portals in time and space. Which is also why I almost said portholes instead of portals. Anyway, it’s a smart move, I know Tre has always been super proud of her babies and she’s not shy about sharing them (some might say DISPLAYING THEM,..but NOT I). Whether its disingenuous or not,…my point was that its the smart thing to do. It endears them to the viewers. It’s an easy way to show your softer side, I should have elaborated in my original comment. You made a good point about Brandi, no disrespect aimed at anyone…cross my heart.

  49. VV says:

    Entertainment Tonight – Tv – Exclusive: Brandi Glanville Comes To Lifetime http://www.etonline.com/tv/139638_Missing_at_17_Exclusive_Clip_Brandi_Glanville/index.html

  50. VV says:

    @LisaLampanelli: Soooo much fun at ur show. Thx for a wonderful day! RT @Bethenny @LisaLampanelli I am so glad you came to the show http://t.co/tGHjNwYNcI

    Original Message:

    Not to be outdone by Bethenny, Jill tweets:

    @LisaLampanelli: OMG!! Do I EVER!!! We were the young ones. LOL RT @Jillzarin @LisaLampanelli Remember the good old days at the FRIARS club?

    Original Message:

  51. Laineylainey says:

    Brandi looks good! She sounds pretty good, too!

  52. VV says:

    Very interesting Twitter exchange between NMD, BravoRatings, Simon, Carly and Ed from TVFishbowl…

    Nite nite everyone

  53. BB says:

    Good morning everyone. Sorry I can’t converse with you guys at night, but as you can see, my mornings start very early. I’ve already been up about 2 hours. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you posters who have the inside scoop on the Bethenny/Jason divorce – you know, who’s thinking and doing what and what their intentions are and all. I’m glad to know that somebody has the “real” story on these people. I can rest easy now. lol.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      I think it’s great that some posters shared their inside scoop as to Jason’s intention since we we all know Bethennys-you know how she used Jason just to have a baby and how she comes from a place of no and how she puts her success above her family’s happiness and how she was so mean to her in laws and she is fighting Jason for sole custody and all…now we have both sides of the “real” story.

      • BB says:

        I agree! On to the next “real” story!

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          BB-I can’t believe how early you get up!! I hope you go to bed nice and early. You need to nap when Jack naps!!!

          • ladebra says:

            I have turned into my grandfather … He used to get up before the sun. Now I wake up at 4am, and sit around drinking coffee, watching the news, and reading this blog. Here is the thing, he drank coffee but he never watched TV. He just puttered – if all I could do was putter, I’d stay in bed. I haven’t thought about Granddad sitting at the kitchen table in a long time 💕

  54. BB says:

    Oh, and I meant to add I’m glad that AZGirl’s sons are both doing OK.

  55. ladebra says:

    Buh bye ROM

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