Simon van Kempen finally spills about Jill Zarin and Lynn Hudson by NMD
Season Four of the Real Housewives of New York was the aftermath of the Bethenny Frankel – Jill Zarin feud.
During Season Three of the show, Jill Zarin had become the most hated housewife in history. Lynn Hudson published daily posts on the “I Hate Jill Zarin” blog that gained a huge internet following. Lynn was steadfast in her support of both Bethenny Frankel and Alex McChord – two of Jill Zarin’s on-screen enemies. In turn, Bethenny and Alex supported Lynn. Bethenny publicly followed a handful of people on twitter – one of them Lynn. Alex’s husband Simon van Kempen posted occasionally on the blog, and the couple entertained Wall Street Lady in their home – a friend of Lynn’s and a regular in the comments section.
As Season Four rolled around, Jill Zarin became desperate to shut Lynn’s blog down. She enlisted the help of Simon van Kempen, who tried to broker a deal between the two ladies. The deal fell through, and viewers were shown an on-air screen between Simon and Bobby Zarin, where Bobby asked Simon about his involvement in the “hate” blog. Simon denied any involvment, which made some of Lynn’s supporters feel as though he had abondoned her.
Jill stated publicly that she refused to meet with Lynn and “reward” her, but now Simon is speaking about what really happened behind the scenes. Simon was accused of throwing Lynn under the bus on twitter. His response:
An edited conversation seen on TV with cameras jumping between Bobby & me ISN’T a fluid converstn. Surely u’ve seen by now with RHoNJ how much these shows r edited w/ an agenda. Never believe anything.
He went on to explain ….
Bobby has asked me a specific questions had I invested in Lynn’s website – I said no. Remember how he said ‘someone’ had told him as he was getting dressed some ‘disturbing’ info, that ‘someone’s were producer’s setting up a scene. Unbeknownst to them all that day Lynn & I had spoken on the phone as I was trying to broker a truce & Lynn was amenable to meet with JZ. I still wish it hadn’t snowed the following day and cancelled their flight. I’m 2 years out of that shit, and have zero interest in lying then or now. Trust me in that. Jill wasn’t the someone -it was a particularly vile producer who I won’t name but if he’s reading he knows who he is.”
I asked Simon if he stopped trying to broker a truce after the conversation with Bobby.
“No, it continued for another hour or so. After that scene was filmed in fact the cameras followed I to the elevator as j&b were leaving to go to another event J&b and I left Avery’s event. I got in their car & we tried to have a real conversation of camera but the cameramen tried to get into the car & film us. Both Jill & I tole the exec prod to F off and he made it plain to us that we were ‘paid’ to do as we were told. We had already removed our mics. As we couldn’t speak then j&b left & Jill & I spoke later that night on the phone about a possible meeting. I think but can’t be certain I either texted or emailed Lynn that night too. In any event later that night the snow storm hit & Jill never flew to Chicago the next day. Lynn knew all of this but it was 7 or 8 months later when selected footage aired that shit hit the fan. I never screwed Lynn over but believe what you all will.”
I asked Simon if he ever tried again to broker a truce.
“Yes I’m pretty sure there was at least one other occasion. I was in RI at a fashion event it was winter, Feb I think & I remember taking a call form Jill & discussing Lynn but you have to understand this is 3 to 4 years ago & frankly a lot of the RHoNY shit is best forgotten. At the time the show aired u all thought every second u saw was the gospel truth. Now some of u know it’s not your biases, loves, hates were all skewered through the Bravo producer’s paradigm and yes sometime life mirrored “realityTV” in & that while we were just Bravo’s willing fools playing on their stage, we were then & are now human beings w/ feelings/emotions.”
I asked Simon if Jill tried to get Alex fired – or Simon fired. (Since I will definitely buy that producers manipulated some of what we say – but Jill is a whole other pickle when it came to her manipulations.)
“I don’t know but it wasn’t in her power. I do know that after the S4 reunion wrapped filming a producer interrupted a convo between Jill & me & told us both to save it for season 5. And two months later we found out there would not be a s5 for either.”
Simon also went on to explain what it was like back then filming the show.
“You also need to understand there was a general prohibition against breaking the 4th wall during filming -we were meant to be just regular but fabulous (lol) people filming our real lives & not people on a TV show who’s lives (or rather selected parts) were dissected off screen. It was a very surreal time.”
Ed (TVFishBowl) asked Simon if we’re really supposed to believe that he signed up for the show, not knowing his life would be dissected by viewers. Simon reminded him:
“I can – we signed in 2007 & started filming in August for a show that wasn’t housewives – at that stage hardly anyone was watching RHOC – were you watching them in 2007?”
I wasn’t. I started watching with the New York franchise.
“That’s easy to say now but while I admit & have admitted we were all naive no one expected this show to be as huge as it was we thought we were filming our everyday lives – this wasn’t survivor type show and we all had no clue that it would be twisted so ask yourself what did you know about reality TV in 2006/2007 versus what you know now in 2013?”
Simon came under attack last night from Carly over whatever went down back then – something about a lie about Lynn. I have no idea what she’s talking about, but I will close with Simon’s response.
“Can’t we just celebrate what RHoNY meant 2 Lynn & the family she created.”
That’s us guys. Let’s celebrate!
More on the Background …
After this attempt at a truce, Lynn tested the waters on the blog to see if we’d accept the name change, and wrote a “I Love Jill Zarin” for Valentine’s day. Quincy was also blogging “I Love Jill Zarin” blogs for the site. Here’s a link to the Valentine’s day post.
Update: Lynn did not write the blog below.
|A Valentine to Jill Zarin by Anonymous (February 14, 2011)On this day of love, we have decided to honor the woman who inspires us all by re-naming this board and expressing our undying love for Jill Zarin.We realize this will come as a surprise to some of you, and
indeed, some may be a bisel shroyft (a little upset). Our dear Quincy has tried to ease into this gently and slowly with her recent I Love Jill Zarin subset blogs. As no one has become farshtarben (keeled over dead) we are taking the next step. We will have emergency response teams standing by in case of fainting or heart palpitations.Now, we had very very long conversations about this so we would be sure to explain ourselves clearly. The bottom line is that if you look past Season 3, you will have to admit that Jill Zarin is a warm, friendly woman. We have seen how she kvells over her Allie, who is a very pretty, very talented young woman. Her photographs are really incredible. And Sarah Lawrence! She is very loving to her family and her pet chihuahua, Ginger. Now Ginger is no looker and she’s not exactly a happy little dog, so it takes a great heart to love this dog. Jill will do anything for this dog and we admire her for that. She is also nice to her mother, even though her mother is not an easy person to please.Over the summer, when she stayed out in the Hamptons and spent most of her time with her family, out of the public eye, she was obviously happy and having a great time.Basically, Jill is what her people call a balaboosteh. Now technically, this means the mistress of the house and was a compliment to the way someone kept the house. But in modern times, it has come to mean the person who keeps the family together and takes care of everything. And Jill does this with flair and makes it look easy. At the same time, she is a very hard worker. She doesn’t have to help out at Zarin Fabrics.
She could just shop all day. But she goes in to the store and helps customers. And she hustles. Again, she could just be a lady of leisure and live off Bobby’s money, but she goes out a hustles with a bedding line, a line of foundation garments…let’s be honest, ladies. We all admire her former friend Bethenny in part because Bethenny hustles. So this is obviously a trait we admire in Jill Zarin, too. And she does charity work, raising money for Creaky Joints because Allie has arthritis.Jill is also quite attractive, especially when she takes it easy on the make-up. She has a beautiful smile when she is smiling because she is happy, like when she is holding her grandson. We admit that her taste is a bit much for us, but to each her own. Your house and your clothes should make you happy and you shouldn’t worry what someone else thinks.Most of the time, she wears very attractive clothes that look good on her. A few clunkers, to be sure, but don’t we all miss the mark every now and again?
Sometimes I think we don’t give Jill enough credit for her sense of humor. You know, it is entirely possible that she was just joking, playing it up for the cameras when she said that the new Mercedes Bobby gave her for her birthday had to go back because it had the wrong phone jack.
Now, there are some things that really were problematic and we hope that Jill will learn from experience that some things are just wrong. The Susan Saunders Amazon-gate episode was horrifying and this new blog by her sister is more of the same. Please, please, please Jill. We beg you. Be the warm, genuine woman we know you really are and we will write the nice blogs for you. No one wants to see a new Jill more than we do….
I’m glad that’s over…”
Eight months later, when the episode aired, Simon took to his own blog to explain what had happened. You can read the entire thing here. When this blog came out I remember Carly coming to the board and being concerned that Lynn would feel that Simon threw her under the bus. Lynn didn’t seem concerned at the time, but I have no idea what was going on behind the scenes. Perhaps some of you do. I’ve brought some of Simon’s blog to this blog. I think Avery’s party was in December, 2010. He was quite upset when he wrote the blog.
|I have watched, read & listened, sometimes with horror, as Jill Zarin has slandered, libeled and maligned me and/or Alex over the past three years but this past week has really been something else. You saw in the 4.14 episode ofReal Housewives of New York City which aired in the US on July 7th, 2011 a sit down talk between Jill & me, with Bobby in attendance and Alex joining towards the end. For those that are interested you can find a transcript of that scene here……..When Bobby came up to me at Avery’s Sweet 16 (now what date was that party held???) this was the entire conversation:Bobby: Just today, as I was getting dressed this afternoon, they told me about an internet blog, a hate blog, hatemongers, and I was shocked…..
Simon: What’s that got to do with me?
Bobby: They told me that you are actively involved with it
Bobby: And I said that …..
Simon: Absolutely 100% not the case
Bobby: Of course, I am here to protect Jill
Simon: As you should be
Bobby: If there something that’s going on we can solve it right now
Mario: Let’s take it outside
Bobby: You know, both of you know I surround myself with good people. We’re going to say this, peace, love, health, good friends and that’s what we are all about. Do we have an understanding? It’s all good? You’re on my page?
Bobby: Shake on it? Because I know that Jill & Alex all have it straightened out.
You see Bobby & me shake handsNow let’s see these tangled webs be woven. In Jill’s BravoTV.com blog for that episode she wrote:In the final scene of the episode you see Bobby, Simon, and Mario at the bar. Bobby had been hearing from multiple sources that Simon was heavily engaging in mean tweeting of Kelly and me. Bobby rarely interferes with any of this as he generally thinks it’s all nonsense. Bobby on his own felt that he needed to have an adult conversation with Simon asking him nicely to stop this behavior. Simon agreed and shook Bobby’s hand. Clearly, Simon was not sincere and is still mean tweeting the both of us.
This is an outright fabrication. Also note that she asserts that I am still mean tweeting her; presumably in June 2011. There was no discussion between Bobby and me that night about mean tweeting (nor has there even been such a discussion on camera or off). Bobby spoke to me about a ‘hate’ blog and said that he’d been told that I was actively involved with it. I am not and never have been. The fact that Jill is now trying to change the subject when the facts don’t support her (or Bobby’s) assertion is interesting but as can be seen from the above transcript it’s false. Not one mention of Twitter, tweeting or heaven forbid, ‘mean tweeting’ was mentioned by Bobby. Why did Jill need to lie in her blog?
Incidentally who’s is the ‘they’ who are talking to Bobby while he’s getting dressed? LOL
Simon goes on to explain about his involvement with WSL – who Jill accused of being a stalker about that time. Then he gives more details on trying to broker a second meeting between Lynn and Jill (after the first one was cancelled due to the snow storm). This occurred in early January, 2011. Incidentally, Jill Zarin visited the blog herself on New Year’s Eve, 2010 -anonymously, but with an IP that linked to the country where she was vacationing. She asked Lynn a question – What would Lynn do if Jill had become friends with Simon? Jill may have been under the mistaken impression that Lynn was blogging out of loyalty for Simon, rather than just out of feelings of frustration at Jill’s own actions. But remember – the show had been on hiatus for over six months by now – so people were caring less and less about Jill and her antics – so Lynn was open to changing the name of the blog.
|About two weeks after Jill and I sat down (and don’t you just love how we both seemed to be at peace that night yet her talking head interviews that were interspersed within it showed a completely different Jill than the one I sat down with?), she was heading off to Chicago to attend an event to promote her book. Jill & I had spoken that night about my involvement (or rather lack thereof) in this ‘hate’ blog and I knew that this blog’s existence upset her, particularly as she had told me that it was costing her endorsement deals. I don’t know that it was, but that’s what she told me. Initially Jill was going to Chicago in December but her flight was cancelled due to a snow storm. In December I had emailed Lynn about meeting with Jill & also spoken to Jill about it, but as the event was cancelled, the meeting never happened. So with her January trip pending, I decided that I’d again try to broker a meeting between them and so I emailed Jill and she replied:
——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Lynn Hudson wants to meet you.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:03:13 -0500
From: Jill Zarin
To: Simon van KempenCall me home when you get a chance. JillOn Jan 21, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Simon van Kempen wrote:Jill,Lynn Hudson emailed me today seeing if I can orchestrate a meeting between you.It’s completely up to you of course but I think the best chance you have of changing her blog’s name is convincing her in person.See below email from Lynn:
“I noticed that Jill has rescheduled her trip to Chicago for this Sunday and I remember you asking me about keeping an open mind if you were able to set something up for me to meet her. Is that still a possibility? I would love to meet her in person and I would be nothing but objective and completely open minded.
I don’t know when she’s flying in but if she’d give me 20-minutes over a cup of coffee on Saturday or Sunday before her event (or diet Coke in her case) it could be well worth her time. Is this something you’d consider trying to set up or are we past thinking that is possible?”
I called Jill, as she requested, and we had a very long chat but in the end Jill decided against meeting with Lynn as she felt doing so would be a reward to Lynn. If you follow me on Twitter you know that I often engage with my negative tweeters and try to win them over. If these two women had met would this ’hate’ blog have changed, who knows? But I still think to this day that nothing bad would have come out of this meeting.
That was a long trip down memory lane. I remember those days as though they were yesterday. Having Lynn’s blog mentioned on national TV, Simon posting on the blog, Simon calling into Carly and Lynn’s radio show, people talking about getting sued. Looking back, I can see how surreal it must have been for the cast. The interaction between real life, Reality life, and real time. Again, I wonder if it’s worth it?
Survivor 27.5 by MelTheHound
Back at the Tadhang camp, the girls have kind of a holy crap – what just happened air about them, the men, don’t think they can trust Caleb anymore and know, that if he’s aligned with the women, they are in trouble. I think Caleb has aligned with Caleb, has decided to play his own game rather than Brad’s, and he’ll do whatever he has to do, to survive in the game. Over at RE, Brad wakes John and Candice out of a sound sleep to preach to them about how this is a game and it’s not personal, it’s business. I think I would have kicked the shit out of him on principle alone but it’s obvious he woke these people so he could go into ass kiss mode. Candice has hated the Culpepper’s since day one as it was Monica, she says, who is responsible for her being on RE. How long did this jerk keep these two awake running his big mouth?
At the Galang camp, same night, Laura M is cozying up the Aras. This is just wierd… I get that she is playing game and is seeking some sort of alliance but, Come On.. Aras says that he already has his alliance and neither of the Lauras are a part of it. As far as he is concerned, the ones that will push him to the end are Tina, Monica, Gervace, and Tyson. I wouldn’t count on it fella. BTW.. Laura M has been married for 20 years. I wonder how her husband reacted to seeing her rub on another guy. LauraB is kind of feeling the sting of being the new kid outsider in the group. They are all vets who have done the show before, she is not so, she’s kind of feeling her way through it. Does any of this matter? We’ll see.
Day 11 at Redemption Island challenge. Galang learns that Brad is now a part of RE. Monica wants to take his spot. She gets teary eyed that he’s there but she’s his rock and no way will he let her take his spot. I think I’m going to puke. He says he’s not there because he’s a jerk. Ahhhhhhaahahahaa 😆 Delusional much, Brad? Does this guy EVER shut his mouth? Probst says to Candice that she’s been the most vocal about the Culpeppers without ever spending a second at either camp. She says she’s repeating what she’s been told by the others who have come through RE but it’s their word against his. The delusional asshole thinks he’s liked on his tribe, even by John. Ahhhhhhaahahahaa 😆 Monica’s feelings are hurt because Candice sees him for the jerk he is. Candice says her feelings were hurt when Monica wrote her name down..
The Challenge. At the end of the playing field is a crate that is made up of planks that first, will be used to build a bridge. Once the bridge is complete, they then have to take the planks and use them to solve a puzzle on that table at the other end of the playing field. First one to do that, wins. Second one, safe. Third one, Gone.
The bridge itself is a puzzle as all of the planks have to fit over pegs but, they are not all equal. That is, they have to be put in the right order. Candice jumps out to a quick lead, Brad is floundering at first. Monica is trying to guide him. Let’s see if he listens to his wife. Once the bridge is complete, they can take it apart and find the actual puzzle pieces. There are 12 total, 8 are needed, the other 4 do nothing. The entire race is a close one, John takes first and within a couple seconds, Brad knocks out Candice (DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!). Everyone says their goodbyes. John gets to to give away another clue. He gives it to Monica, she burns it again. Now John is stuck alone on an island with this jerk and has to listen to him run his big mouth some more. I hope he stuffs a rag in it to tell the truth. I’m not even there and I’m sick of listening to it.
At Galang, Monica is happy Brad is still there, the others don’t want the two of them in the game together. At Tadhang, this group looks rode hard and put away wet. Cierra is covered in bug bites, Katie is losing toenails. I think they are likely all under nourished. Vytas is working Caleb, who at the moment is the swing vote. He can vote with the girls or the other two guys. Caleb is feeling the power that swing vote brings with it. Careful Caleb, that can also get you kicked out. One thing they all seem to agree on, the camp is much more peaceful without Brad. Since he never STFU, none of them could enjoy where they were and what was around them. They know they need to start winning the immunity challenge.
The object here is to slide down the waterslide and grab a ring on the way down. Then they will toss that ring on to a post holding pegs. Each ringer scores one point, first team to 5 wins. Pretty simple and the most physically demanding is climbing the stairs to the top of the slide platform. They are also playing for reward. Steak, veggies, spices, etc, and a Wok to cook it in. Galang has to sit out 3 members. The two Lauras and Monica take a spot on the bench.
Pairs are as follows…
- Gervace vs Caleb
- Tyson vs Heyden
- Kat vs Katie
- Aras vs Vytas
- Tina vs Cierra
- Tyson vs Caleb
- Gervace vs Heyden
Tadhana Wins! It’s about damn time. Now we get to watch the vets stab each other in the back. My prediction, Monica is on her way to RE. If they are smart, that’s what they will do. I don’t have a lot of actual faith in it but let’s see what really happens. Oh, Tadhana chose the steak.. I would have too because I don’t like Fish.
Back at the Galang camp, the pre tribal stuff begins. It doesn’t really matter but we will look at it anyway. Laura B is making a bit of a nuisance of herself attempting to talk up the others. She even tells Kat and Tina that the other two who sat out with her were bitter about not playing in the challenge. Laura B is the easy vote but that isn’t always the best way to go in this game, notes, Aras.. He comes up with the plan to send someone to RE who can take out Brad. Laura M is good at puzzles so her name comes up. Monica sees the wisdom of this idea but doesn’t want her hubby sent packing. Personally, I would laugh my ass off if they did send Laura B and she was the one who sent Brad home. She Has proven herself to be an asset in the challenges. One who has not, and if they want to bounce a weak player, is Kat.
Probst ushers them in, tells them to light their torches, fire represents life and all that. The Probsting begins. To Gervace, who was on the first season, the game has changed a lot since then. He says he needs to learn how to play like the others are playing or he’s going home. Relax fella, I don’t think you’re in any trouble tonight. To Tina, who was on the second season, same type of question. How has it changed. She says she had played more in the first 5 days than she did her entire season. The blood vs water adds a twist in that if you’re alone, you can play balls to the wall. In this case however, it isn’t just you (Katie is her daughter). To Monica, similar question, how does B vs W change things. She basically says that no one really wants a team of two playing after the merge. Aras, basically says that his loved one is on his own when it comes to voting. His task right now is to shore up relationships with the people he’s currently playing with. To Laura M, that’s the only thing you can say. She says yes but, she will squash her daughter to win. Have to cut the apron stings sometime. Probst notes that Laura has proven she won’t yield to her daughter just because of family ties, she’s already beaten her twice. Gervace says that that’s all fine and dandy but, there is no stronger bonds than the ones who still have loved ones in the game. To Laura B, the obvious outsider, Do you belong here with this tribe of vets. She feels that she’s pulled her weight so yes, she does. Monica agrees that Laura is doing her part and therefore is very much a part of the tribe. Probst says to Laura, that’s all very nice but that’s what someone is told, just before they are voted out. She says she was welcomed with open arms but realizes she’s an easy vote. She notes that Rupert’s name keeps coming up because they all wanted to play with him but they are stuck with her. Laura M notes that everyone but Laura B has felt the sting of having their torch snuffed. I’m going to say this here.. Kat, I cannot stand that snot. I wish she would burn that pink hoodie that she’s worn for now, 3 seasons, and I’m sick to death of watching her roll her eyes.
Time to vote. Laura M votes for Laura B and says there is only room for one Laura… Okie Dokie then… Laura B returns the compliment. All of them voted for A Laura but which one? Probst collects the votes, polls for the idol, no one has it. Let’s see how this shakes out.. First vote read is for Laura B. Second through sixth, for Laura M. I guess she gets to feel the sting again because, she’s on her way to RE. Now she gets to listen to Brad’s big mouth too.
Next week, Gervace and Tyson are baking a plan to dethrone ‘King Aras’ but, at RE, Probst throws another wrench at them. Time to mix things up. See you then.
Happy Birthday JustDee