Kenya didn’t donate Proceeds to Charity – OR DID SHE? / The Takedown of Lisa Vanderpump / Couples Therapy / Vanderpump Rules

Kenya Moore did not donate Proceeds of Real Housewives of Atlanta event to Charity  – Charity stands behind NeNe by NMD

  • The charitable organization Saving our Daughters has confirmed that they were not aware NeNe Leakes was being honored at Kenya Moore’s event shown on the recent episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta.  NeNe was shown in an unfavorable light when she gave a terse and rude speech at the event when put on the spot at the last minute.
  • The charity has also confirmed that NeNe has been their biggest financial supporter.
  • They also confirmed that the 1,000s of dollars Kenya Moore said were raised on camera never made it to them.
  • And there you have it – the truth always comes out.  The whole event was a transparent setup to make NeNe look bad.







9 hours ago by curtisbenjamin

To all of our sponsors, contributors and friends

On February 16, 2014, Saving Our Daughters was mentioned on the episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta as being honored with a fundraiser on its behalf.

Our charity was contacted by publicist April Love to get approval and give notice of this upcoming event. Much to our delight, we were indeed honored to be chosen. After all, one of our largest financial contributors, Mrs. NeNe Leakes who has been responsible for contributions in the thousands of dollars throughout the years, is a member of the cast. Days later, to our surprise Ms. Love did contact me and inform me that she had decided to terminate her company’s involvement with this event. At that point, Ms. Moore contacted me to continue moving forward with the event as purposed and planned. This call took place a day before the event was scheduled to take place. Upon seeing the event unfold on TV, it was noticed that Ms. Kenya Moore stated that she was giving this charitable event in honor of Mrs. Leakes, with Saving Our Daughters as the recipient of the proceeds from the charity event. Honorees at this point were switched without our knowledge, but again, we are appreciative of any and all support for the organization. Had we been made aware that this fundraising event was in honor of Mrs. Leakes, we certainly would have been present with the plaques and certificates of appreciation that we currently have to present to Mrs. Leakes for her outstanding efforts and support for Saving Our Daughters. This would have been the perfect opportunity for us to honor her, as well.

We were not aware of this and it appears that Mrs. Leakes wasn’t aware either. The light in which Saving Our Daughters was depicted was less than favorable. The organization received several calls from other supporters about our involvement in this event. They were extremely disappointed and felt that the organization was being taken advantage of. We go on record by stating that we at Saving our Daughters have never and will not ever be involved in any drive where the exact purpose is not clear, stated or held to with only approved changes. We would not ever jeopardize our continuing support from our friends by being a part of what appears to have been tainted from the start.

In closing, Ms. Kenya Moore stated that thousands of dollars were raised at this event. To protect the integrity of Saving Our Daughters, our records show that we did not receive any of the proceeds raised from Ms. Moore’s masquerade ball. However, we do appreciate the contribution we did receive of $500 for our annual Christmas doll drive for children with cancer.

The Takedown of Lisa Vanderpump
Guest blog by Quincy

Frankly, I am disgusted. This season reminds me of the take down of Bethenny Frankel by Jill Zarin and her supporters. I am surprised at the lack of outrage on the blogs, but we may be hardened by this kind of behavior. I see Lisa being admonished on film for every comment she makes. She suggests that Carlton and Kyle are on a good path and is told by Yolanda that she will have none of this drama at Gigi’s going away party. Something smells in Beverly Hills.


I don’t think there is a puppet master or a Bobby Fisher in Beverly Hills. These women have stage or acting experience. They are playing roles. Lisa is taking incoming fire. Pandora, Lisa and Ken are tweeting that there are lies coming. I can’t imagine what Brandi and Yolanda have up their sleeves, but Kim and Kyle are transparent. Kim and Kyle have complained about Lisa on “Bethenny.” Their gripe is that Lisa has shared about Kim’s storyline of alcohol addiction and misuse of prescription drugs with Kim. We have seen Kim miss planes, fail to update her driver’s license, drive under the influence of mind altering pills on the expressway, fall on the floor trying to pick up pills, play with dirty tissues in a limousine, etc. She brought this storyline to the show when she fought with Kyle in the back of a limousine. Accusing Lisa of bringing this to the show is ludicrous. The women are supposed to discuss what is going on in their lives. That is why they are under a Bravo contract and receive pay checks.

Where are the girls’ girls? I guess no one is truly happy for a friend’s success on this planet. When you have to form a group to take a person down, that is bullying. This is not the first time the cast tried to take Lisa down. They tried to do it under the direction of Taylor at the Second Season Tea Party. This season the plot is easier to see because Brandi is going from person to person pulling daggers from them to stab Lisa. Lisa has a dry sense of humor. She has a British wit. I don’t think she means harm when quips. Ken speaks his mind. He doesn’t pull punches. That is why Kim reacted to his reminder of her past sins when it came to filming. Ken also shared that they sent a negative RSVP two weeks prior to Kim’s party and sent a gift from Tiffanies. They did not receive a thank you note for that gift. I bet it was expensive too. Kim is so out of line here. She is actually being mean.

I think the worst person in this bunch is Yolanda Hadid. Lisa did nothing to her. In Paris, Yolanda fired a shot that was heard by Kyle and Kim, but Lisa gave Yolanda a pass. Now, Yolanda has gone after Lisa all season. Listen to Yolanda talk about Lisa in the Bravo Interviews. Yolanda has always been mean in her blogs. Kyle asked Yolanda at the last reunion who Kyle was supposed to believe. Was Kyle to believe the Yolanda who is nice to Kyle’s face or the Yolanda in the blogs? Yolanda countered with she is supposed to share her truth in the blog. I think the real Yolanda is the person who stabs you in the back when you are not there. Yolanda doesn’t fool me. She is angry with Mohammed. She says that they don’t show their feelings about each other to their children, but you can see how she feels about him when she makes those jokes about a two year relationship as a long time for Mohammed and sharing information about Mohammed infidelities with Brandi. Does anyone believe that Yolanda didn’t say things about Joanna Krupa to Brandi? I think that the divorce settlement has a clause that neither party is to talk about the other just like Bethenny and Jason Hoppy, but Yolanda is an expert at saying things with a smile. I think that Yolanda doesn’t like Lisa because Mohammed has always loved Lisa as a friend. Mohammed respects Lisa, but I bet he doesn’t respect Yolanda. They have an agreement, but I don’t think Mohammed and Yolanda have resolved their issues. The dynamic between David, Yolanda and Mohammed is weird. I think that Yolanda pointing out that David was ok with her dressing in gym shoes and noting that Mohammed wanted her to be a model all of the time was right on the mark. There is no truce in the divorce of Mohammed and Yolanda. They are in a Cold War.

Kyle is such a victim. I think she can’t see the forest through the trees. Carlton is correct about Kyle labeling people. Kyle told Taylor that the reason Lisa was different was that she was British in the first episode of Season Two. Kyle called a truce with Camille because Camille is selling mansions in BH, and Mauricio wants listings. Kyle supported Adrienne because of Mauricio too. Lisa was correct when she told Kyle that no one would ever have Kyle’s back like Lisa did in Season One. Kyle returned that favor by gossiping with Taylor and stating that Lisa had a big ego at the Second Season Tea Party. Lisa should have known at that point that her relationship with Kyle was never a true friendship.

Brandi may be easily manipulated by the women around her as she claims. Let’s face it. She isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but she is pretty. Lisa is watching her friends draw and quarter her on this reality show. It has to hurt. I don’t think Yolanda, Brandi or Kyle have any idea what they are doing to someone that works with them. I think this happened in RHONYC too. Ramona and Jill both took Bethenny down for trying so hard to be a successful business woman and a mom. Everyone on these shows has personality quirks, but to share those quirks on film in order to take someone down is devastating.

I am really surprised at the lack of outrage on blogs over this take down of Lisa. The Social Media was in an uproar when Jill did this to Bethenny. I see this as betrayal by Kyle and Brandi. Lisa has been consistent in her concern for Brandi. She has pointed out that Brandi brings trouble down on her own head all along. Brandi has been spending a great deal of time with Yolanda. Brandi is reflecting Yolanda’s feelings about Lisa this season.

Brandi is one of those women who runs to others who feel hurt by a person when she feels hurt by that person. We see this in the Social Media and in our personal lives. Brandi can claim that someone was pulling her strings, but Brandi is an adult who should take responsibility for her actions. Kyle was foolish to be on Team Brandi and has been thrown under the bus with the bankruptcy controversy that is happening off stage on Twitter and in the Social Media. Brandi went to Kyle for support on the show. This is Kyle’s payback for sharing rumors. This speaks volumes about Kyle and Brandi.

The world is full of this drama. Women are horrible to other women. I admire Bethenny and Lisa’s accomplishments in the business world. They paid a price when it came to personal relationships. Both have their own issues. We all do. I think the main problem is they simply don’t have time for this drama. Let the Brandis and Jills of this world play those games.


Couple’s Therapy Episode 7  “Three’s a crowd” by LuLu

My apologizes the Governor broke Mr Lulu’s laptop.  For the past episode will be my take only.

Her blog

Opens to Dr Jen’s failed “intervention”
Kelsey breaks down and runs off after Dr Jen’s brilliant therapy session.  Kelsey is coming to terms with what kind of man “Ghost” is.  For a couple’s therapist wouldn’t one have to be I don’t know unbiased??  Ghost clearly has issues and so does his first girlfriend.  She’s used to his “cheating” and treatment.  Rather then help Ghost Dr Jen asks him to leave so Kelsey can talk to the other women.  Surprisingly both of them are cordial.  It’s sad just how broken Latrisse is.

Ghost’s revelation
He can’t understand why Kelsey is so upset.  He is confused by her feelings for him.  I don’t think he truly understands what being loved and loving someone is.  He needs a plant if he could keep it alive for a year then try a relationship.

Group session
Compatability?? That is the subject of therapy.  Dr Jen calls the “experts” (plenty of fish) who based on “statistics” judge compatability.  All of them fill out surveys.  Since Farrah’s boyfriend “porno” is silent.  Farrah fills out a dating profile.

Taylor and John
Both are highly dependant and considered compatible

Ghost and Kelsey
Surprise surprise they are not compatible

Whitney and Sada
Lack self control on both parts.  But deemed compatible.

Jon and Liz
Kids and divorce means incompatible???? What a crock!!

Takes the BS compatibility results to heart.  It enrages him to the point that he calls his agent.  He feels that the production is “tampering” with the results for ratings????  Hmmmm no production would NEVER tamper with that!  Dr Jen is appalled that he would feel that way!!  Because in her professional opinion that would not happen.  Yeah and I believe Farrah is not a “porn” star.

One slick MOFO!!
What Ghost did to both ladies is terrible.  He knows that Kelsey is done with him but Latrisse is an entirely different matter.  After Latrisse expresses her feelings Mr Smooth tries to smooth things over. Latrisse sees through him and has no interest.  Hope she moves on and finds someone that will treat her with respect.

Jon and kate minus kate
Taylor voices she hates how Kate 2.0 treats him.  That prompts the remainder of the group to chime in. Jon tells Kate 2.0 what is going on.  She is defensive and says what they saw is nothing???  Umm every time this women opens her mouth she says terrible things to Jon…..


Vanderpump Rules – Reunion Part 2

“Lives get destroyed because Jax likes attention.”

By HydrangeaHussy

I found out pretty much everything I wanted to know in the last show, so I’m not sure why they’re dragging this out into two parts.  Jax is still a piece of work, Stassi is still a b*tch, Tom & Ariana are together, and Kristen is still bitter.  I’ll be taking a hiatus next week since it’s the middle of Mardi Gras season & it’s parade time for me, but I’ll be back in March to analyze Bravo’s new look into “southern” life – Southern Charm.

Anyway, back to the reunion!  Kristen is still yelling at Tom & Ariana.  While she admits that what she did was wrong, she seems to think that their relationship is worse.  Kristen – you cheated on your boyfriend with his best friend, who also happened to be your BFF’s ex-boyfriend.  There just isn’t any way to sugar coat that & you look worse when you try to deflect from it.  Tom is impressed with how Ariana handled Kristen’s outbursts at Sur.  Kristen storms off, which seems to be typical behavior for her – cause a scene then storm off when it doesn’t go your way.  Lisa says to just let her go.  She seems really tired of Kristen’s behavior.

Scheana, since she’s friends with Kristen now, is stuck in the middle.  Stassi says that Scheana’s friendship with Kristen & Jax has caused her reluctance to reach out.  Scheana takes the opportunity to tell Stassi, again, how badly her feelings were hurt when Stassi made light of her tooth disaster.  Now, I understand why Scheana is upset – it has to be traumatic to have your front teeth knocked out, but she’s been going on about this for way too long.  Did she really expect more from Stassi?  I’m over it.

Kristen comes back in the middle of this & interrupts.  She tells Tom & Ariana to show some respect for her.  She thinks that they are all over each other, which they aren’t – Tom has his hand on Ariana’s knee.  It hurts Kristen that Tom & Ariana are holding hands.  Based on Ariana’s outfit (booty shorts & a jacket only), she’s trying to rub it in Kristen’s face.  Tom points out that Kristen sleeping with the busboy, & his friend, in their bed was pretty disrespectful.  What is up with Kristen & sleeping with Tom’s friends?  Ugh, more Tom & Kristen fighting.  Tom then diagnoses Kristen with borderline personality disorder.  While I do think that Kristen needs some help, I’m not about to start making diagnoses.  Kristen tells him to stop worrying about her.  Wait, didn’t she just want him to worry about her feelings & stop holding Ariana’s hand?  These people need to be out of each other’s lives for good.

Andy attempts to switch gears – to Jax’s recent jail time.  Jax admits that he’s been to jail quite a few times & is having trouble narrowing down which time Andy is referring to.  Andy is talking about the time, during this season, when Jax disappeared for 3 days.  According to Jax, he didn’t get his new insurance & his license got suspended.  Cut to footage showing him explain to Lisa that he was leaving Sur, was pulled over, & an old warrant came up.  Jax acts like going to jail is no big deal – DUI, fighting, etc.  I just don’t believe anything Jax says, he’s so full of sh*t.

On to Lisa’s dinner party from hell – Lisa admits that she was overwhelmed by all of the drama, both from her employees & her friends.  Scheana points out that Stassi & Katie were pretty funny during the dinner.  We get to see some flashbacks of their reactions to the drama.  Amazing that they are appalled by the RHoBH behavior, but see nothing wrong with their own.

Peter’s birthday is up next.  Katie was pissed at Scheana because Scheana was dancing on Peter.  Lisa points out that Katie was only mad because she was drunk.  I think that we all realized that Katie was over-reacting.   Scheana also had a rough time at Kyle’s COC party.  Lisa says that Scheana will always be the “other woman” to Brandi.  Brandi is always going to have rude comments for her.  Scheana doesn’t think it’s fair for her to be cut from parties because Brandi is going to be there.  Umm, you slept with her husband, so yeah, it is fair.  Scheana thinks that Brandi needs to move on, but it has to be hard to do when the other woman is constantly around.

Jax thought he had cancer, though now he says that it wasn’t that serious.  We all saw him make a huge deal out of it to everyone!  Lisa thinks he was trying to get the sympathy card.  Turns out, it was due to his crazy supplements, as Stassi suspected.

Andy says that it’s now time to talk about Kristen & Jax.  Haven’t we already spent most of this reunion talking about them in some form or another?  Stassi says that she believed the rumor from the beginning.  It happened during a time when Stassi & Kristen weren’t getting along, Kristen & Tom weren’t getting along, Kristen was spending lots of time w/Jax.  Stassi says that it would have been easier if there was a relationship b/w Kristen & Jax, rather than just sex.  I don’t know about that, I think it’s pretty awful either way.

Stassi played Sherlock Holmes & texted Jax from Kristen’s phone.  At that time, Kristen denied sleeping with Jax.  Kristen had already texted Jax & warned him.  Wow, Kristen went to extremes to cover up her behavior.  But then she did it again!   At least she admits that there is no excuse for sleeping with Jax while Tom was in the other room.  During that time, Tom was doing his best to make things better with Kristen but she was constantly putting him down.  I felt bad for her at the time, but now we know that she was cheating too.  I have zero sympathy for her & am tired of her victim act.

Jax saved all of Kristen’s text messages.  He says that he wasn’t planning to use them against her, but Tom thinks he kept them as leverage.  I agree with Tom’s assessment that Jax has no integrity or loyalty.  The lack of compassion is astounding to me.  Lisa points out the lack of remorse that Jax has shown.  Kristen lashes out at Ariana again when Ariana weighs in.  Lisa tells Kristen to stop it, that Ariana is part of the group & has the right to say whatever she wants.  Go Lisa!  Lisa is asked why she doesn’t fire Kristen.  She says that Kristen is on a down-ward spiral, but that she doesn’t want to kick someone when she’s down.  Kristen really needs to appreciate Lisa.

On to Stassi’s “public execution” of Kristen.  I get why she wanted to publicly expose Kristen, but it seems really harsh when you consider Tom’s feelings about the whole thing.  It’s pretty apparent that Stassi & Kristen will never be friends again.  Then why does Stassi expect Kristen to try to make things up to her? Tom is obviously pissed that Jax publicly humiliated him that way, instead of being a friend & handling it in private.  I don’t blame him at all.  Jax blames it all on Stassi.  He only did what she wanted because she has some kind of power over him.  Stassi admits that she was excited about humiliating Kristen.  Tom thinks that it’s sick that Stassi gets so much joy in knocking people down.  Stassi starts the tears & asks why she’s being attacked.  Stassi, you’re being attacked because you’re always attacking others.  Scheana admits that everyone was involved in the surprise party, that it wasn’t just Stassi.  But Stassi was leading the charge, as Tom points out.

Tom says that he didn’t believe Stassi at first because she was already trying to cut Kristen off from everyone.  Tom points out that Jax was almost gleeful when telling him about the affair.  I remember wondering why Jax didn’t seem more contrite.  He has no remorse at all.  Kristen says that she came clean because it was eating away at her.  I believe that, but I don’t believe Jax ever felt guilty – I think he told Stassi because he wanted her attention.  Tom was a good friend to him, even when he was a jerk, but Jax says that they were never friends.  Tom says that it’s hard to trust people now because of the way Jax treated him.  They show the footage of Tom getting details from Jax on the beach.  Jax says that kissing is more intimate & that’s why he drew the line there.  Very Pretty Woman of him.

Stassi is now embarrassed by all of her nudity.  She was naked a lot last season & didn’t learn from it, so I think she’s just an attention whore.  I wonder what her parents think.  Mine would be livid!

Stassi admits to some moments of weakness where Jax was concerned.  Lisa thought they would end up together because Jax had such love for Stassi.  He did work really hard to win Stassi back, though we now know that he was sleeping with all sorts of other people at the same time.  He says that he slept with other people because he was trying to get over Stassi.  Stassi says that she would like to think people can change, but that she doesn’t think Jax can.  Me either!  Jax still has nothing to say to Tom.  Tom again asks why Jax hasn’t shown any remorse.  Lisa points out that Kristen has shown some emotion, but Jax has shown none.  Jax can’t even look at Tom.  Jax says that he’s sorry for what happened & that he hopes Tom can forgive him.  I’m not buying it.


Happy Birthday Lizzle


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417 Responses to Kenya didn’t donate Proceeds to Charity – OR DID SHE? / The Takedown of Lisa Vanderpump / Couples Therapy / Vanderpump Rules

  1. AZGirl says:

    First? Powellypoo where are you?

  2. AZGirl says:

    Happy Birthday Lizzle!

  3. SJNYC says:

    Wow – Quincy, nice blog. I realize that Lisa isn’t perfect and I do think she manages situations well (I don’t want to say manipulate because I think that devalues what she does into petty terms), but I was wondering last night why we haven’t seen a “I hate Brandi” or “I hate Yolanda”, etc blog or maybe there is just too many of them to hate and we are just tired to hate?

    As a long time lurker I have thought a lot about Lynn this past week because of Nancy’s passing. I remember that weekend so clearly when I went to Lynn’s website and there was no blog and I admit I was a little pissed because that is how I started my day and I kept checking until I heard the sad news. I have wondered a lot lately what Lynn would have written about this situation and sad because we have missed out on reading that.

    • R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

      I think a lot of us see some of these arguments as so incredibly stupid it’s not worth our time. We’re simply tuning out.

      Brandi is a whore in every sense of the word, including a fame whore. She will say anything to get attention. Bravo backs her up. Some idiot over there thinks all publicity is great and she’s bringing it. I hope the brass is watching the ratings. Dandy Andy said he wants to switch places with Brandi because she says whatever she wants. So basically he’d like to go around hurting people too. He’s pathetic.

      • mrs peabody says:

        did anyone notice how grayer his hair looked last night on the Shaws. Maybe I’m just noticing it because I don’t watch his Watch what happens show, I can’t stand him and his stupid childish behavior. I thought it was funny GiGi and her sister paid him no attention when they were fighting and he was trying to get them to stop.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          I noticed the other night on WWHL that he’s gotten quite gray.

          When I first started watching NY, it got to reunion time and I thought Andy’s hair looked like it was more gray. I remember thinking “Look what those women have done to Andy!” LOL! And then I realized it was the lighting and some shiny goop he had on his hair.

  4. Jules says:

    I think is shows a “just don’t care anymore” because it is so wrong and soooo many that are doing wrong. That is why no major outrage. The woman are so stupid in their trying to take Lisa down that while hurtful to her most viewers see Kyle and brandi and Yolanda’s really major mistakes when making things up. with the NY season with Bethenny and J!ll it was a truer ugliness at work.

    • Prince Ali says:

      I agree, the reason there is no outrage is that we are tired of the Bravo manufactured drama. It has gotten old, and the decline in ratings is evidence. The fans are no longer as invested in the show, just sick of the drama. I started to watch this franchise to peek into the fabulous life of the rich, and the show just isn’t that anymore.

  5. AZGirl says:

    Q’s blog sheds light on the dynamics of Mohammad and Yolanda’s relationship which did not even occur to me. I could tell from the show that Mohammad favors Lisa and respects her a lot. I think Lisa and Ken are good at what they do and Mohammad respects that.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Quincy has always been such a perspective writer. I thought this blog was truly one of her best.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      I totally agree, AZ and Sue… Q wrote an outstanding blog! I’m really glad it was included here! After seeing the excerpts to next week’s show – I’m really sickened about the whole thing.

    • Jules says:

      I liked the way Lisa and Ken greeted Mohammad’s house manager by name and gave him a kiss. shows they really know each other. I think coming from nothing makes all of them treat the hired staffed better.

      • mrs peabody says:

        I noticed when Yolanda greeted the staff she referred to Mohammed (I think that was who she was referring to that is) by Mr whatever his last name is. Very formal. My thought what a snob.

        • Kansas Girl says:

          It made me wonder if she was trying to teach the employee how she thought he should refer to his employer.

      • AZGirl says:

        Excellent point about the house manager. I notice that and had forgotten about it.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Please add me to the list of those who really enjoyed Quincy’s blog today. She must be reading my mind and put those thoughts into words. Excellent.

      • Shiny says:

        Really thoughtful and perceptive blog today, Quincy. Made all the relationships and plotting very clear – I am hoping Ken and Lisa know we’re not taken in by all the strangeness some of these women play at. I assume Lisa has actual women friends (away from this oddly casted show) who behave as friends should.

    • R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

      Maybe Mohammed got tired of Yolanda emasculating him.

  6. Powell says:

    Good Morning everyone. It’s raining. I want perfect 80 degree weather. But its not snowing so I have to count my blessings. Juicy blog title NMD. Can’t wait to read. It’s hummmmp day. So enjoy it and have a great day.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      Just wished my office mate, Mike, a happy hump day. And I wish the same to all of you. Especially since it’s going to be 60 degrees here today – yes, I said 60; just like yesterday. But snow is coming tomorrow – 1-3 inches. I know that’s small stuff compared to some of you.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      If we’re going for perfect, I want 72-76. Juuuuust right.

      • Shiny says:

        We’re all the way up to 8 degrees here in western Massachusetts, and the snow has started up again really heavily, just in time for me to do volunteer driving to the hospital…. I want to hibernate until April!

  7. trudie says:

    Happy, happy day Lizzle! May it be fabulous from beginning to end.

  8. NYC Mama says:

    Quincy, great blog! Thank you. I agree with all you wrote.

    As for the Kenya fiasco, something rings strange to me about the non-profit. I tried to find their financials but couldn’t and the only think I found was an organizaiton that had their non-profit status taken away. The name was similar, in Georgia, but I don’t know if it was one and the same.

    Something smells. If any money was given to them they would have a record of who gave and how much so they could supply the donor with a letter for tax purposes, even if the gift was made in honor of Nene. I also find the letter from the organization strange as well as how they are going about handling the damage control.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      Hi NYC Mama…Something doesn’t feel right to me about the charity thing, too. Kenya is very familiar with charities – and is pretty smart – so I cannot believe she would commit fraud like this on national tv… That being said, it seems like it cost over $10,000 to put on the party… I’m not sure if that money was taken out of people’s donations or what… but if they only raised a little more than that (it had to be more than just $500 to the charity, right?)… it’s really mismanagement of a charity event. However, most people would have made out checks paid directly to the charity – so the donations would NOT have been in Kenya’s name unless she bought one of the auction items herself, right? Some of the “evidence” that’s shown – are the costs associated with putting on the party that someone paid for… The charity events I’ve been involved with – generally try to get most everything donated… so the maximum amount of money goes to the charity.

      • NYC Mama says:

        Hi Stars! I am sure it cost over $10k to put on that event but probably much of it came from the shows budget (and they can then use it as a tax write off too). And as you stated, the donations would have been made out to the organization itself and then the organization would provide the donor a letter to use for their taxes and a thank you for the donation. I just find it strange that I can find little on the charity and it seems (if it is the right charity) that they use a third party (indiegogo) for their online donations which many do and is fine but I am suspect that I can’t find anything about their 501(c)3 status or their current filed 990.

    • Sus says:

      UGH! I know I don’t have a lot of credibility when talking about charities because I get so enraged over the money raised for fake breast cancer charities. I’m in a tense email discussion right now with Avon because of a statement made in their Walk commercials that is absolutely untrue. Avon isn’t a fake charity. They give the money directly to research but they shouldn’t lie in their commercials.

      It pisses me off that Bravo allows these women to fund raise on TV for sketchy “charities”. I’m with NYC Mama, where is the 501c? Something stinks here. I sent an email asking for the financials. I’ll share if I receive a reply.

      • deco says:

        TamaraTattles posted a blog on the charity casino. In the comment section there is some information on the charity with links regarding SOD’s non profit status which they say was revoked. The EIN Is given if that helps you follow up.

  9. Jan (TexasTart) says:

    Thank you to everyone who contributed to the blog today – and everyday! I enjoy reading it a great deal and will do so later.

    I have often wondered what happened with my blog neighbor Lizzle and sure hope she is well and will check in today. I won’t be able to spend as much here, but I will continue to stop by daily. Y’all have a wonderful day! 😀

  10. Jan (TexasTart) says:

    Worthy of a read….

  11. ladebra says:

    Thank you for the blogs NMD, and Quincy, and HH.

    I so agree with you, Quincy. Great blog, and thank you for sharing your POV.

    Back to work for me today. Thank you Powell,and everyone, who encouraged me to go have that procedure! The prep was definitely the worst, and it turns out it was a very good thing I went in when I did.

    Stay warm and safe – and buy that Powerball ticket :wink

  12. Veena (NMD) says:
  13. LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

    Quincy, Lulu and Hydrangea – thank you for the blogs. I’ve only read Quincy’s so far. I’ve also been wondering where is the outrage of this ganging up on Lisa. They attempted it before, as Q pointed out and it didn’t work. This time,…will it? Veena – thanks for sharing that statement from the Save our Daughters group. I can’t believe that (that no money was donated as a result of that fundraising event. That’s so low.

    Kit9 – i forgot to mention your blog yesterday. I loved the part of the British magazine featuring Brandi…and how the article turned out. It sounds like they were really mean. Well, not loved,…but it was funny!!!

    • Veena (NMD) says:

      There is more to the charity story – they don’t appear to be a legal charity -and Kenya saved some text messages with them that contradict their statement. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

      • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

        oooooh! I smell a rat! a blonde rat. A blonde rat who makes fun of the OC rats for being bleach blondes! (remember when Nene did that? make fun of the OC ladies for being bleach blondes? THE NERVE)

      • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

        Oh wow… that’s crazy… That’s just wonky, NMD… just wonky…

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        So far it seems that she’s only contributed 500 bucks. If donations were made/paid out, directly to the charity that would be great. But could the donations have been made in the name of the ball itself to then be given to the charity? She spent thousands on the ball to only donate 500? In Kenya’s haste to ‘get at’ NeNe she may not have gotten corporate sponsors which would have offset the cost of the event. BTW shouldn’t BRAVO have picked up the tab? I mean there were maybe 50 people there including staff, how expensive could drinks and hors d’oeuvres be?

  14. plainviewsue says:

    Getting DM’s from Lisa.

    Sue Cohen ‏@plainviewsue: Based on the tweets I’ve read, the blogs I’ve read, I’d say the take down of the queen @LisaVanderpump was a colossal failure!!! #RHOBH

    This is Lisa’s DM: Mmm it gets worse tho…

    Sue Cohen ‏@plainviewsue · 2m: @LisaVanderpump Just read your DM. It will get worse for those jealous women. We see what they are trying to do. And Kim yelling at Ken???

    This is Lisa’s DM: The mastermind behind it all stays quiet

    Sue Cohen ‏@plainviewsue: @LisaVanderpump Calling her a mastermind implies that she has a brain. She is a manipulating, disloyal & vile person. We love u Lisa!!

    9:54 AM – 19 Feb 2014 · Details

    Tweet text

    Reply to @LisaVanderpump


    Image will appear as a link

    Sue Cohen ‏@plainviewsue · 27s
    @LisaVanderpump Calling her a mastermind implies that she has a brain. She is a manipulating, disloyal & vile person. We love u Lisa!!

  15. plainviewsue says:

    Oops. Sorry about the repeat. Someday I will get a smart phone, so I can do screen saving instead of cutting and pasting!!

  16. mazelnindy says:

    Great to see you Q. Always enjoyed your writing style.
    I don’t thing that Brandi and Yolanda stir up the emotions like Jill Zarin did hence the lack of outrage. Ii would never take the time to Google I Hate Brandi or I Hate Yolanda…..just not invest

    • 2Stupid says:

      Also, Jill Zarin did thing in people’s personal lives that could affect them i.e. getting Simon fired. At the time, Bethenny could barely make her rent- so she was truly going after the underdog. She still can’t stay out of the Ramons stuff. Jill would always make it very personal. Brandi did try with the bankruptcy stuff, but people just considered the source. Jill was a lot more crafty about her vile behavior.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I Agree. Also viewers HAVE become desensitized to the ‘takedown’ as it’s been done before in NY X 2, OC X 2, Joisey X 2, and currently in BH and ATL. The difference in this instance is Lisa is the most popular, successful HW and the matriarch of the show.

        Victims of the takedown…


    • Dixie says:

      Jill went after Bethenny when she lost her father and was in the beginning of a high risk pregnancy. That just made things so much worse.

  17. Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

    Lulu – Thanks so much for the great blog… I hope the Governor isn’t in too much trouble… lol… I’m finding the whole “Ghost” situation just horrific… I have to keep reminding myself this is a television show and that IRL a therapist wouldn’t have handled the situation this way… Ghost makes me ill… but the way the women have been handled… holy crap on a cracker. I found the whole compatibility test to be weird… it’s like they were waiting on the test results to see if they were going to “make-it” as a couple… That if the test didn’t come out right… they might as well break up now… It was just a little odd to me… perhaps more was told to the couples that we didn’t see… but… yikes! Anyway, thanks so much for you and your husband’s blogging of this show… Hope the computer gets fixed soon! = )

  18. Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

    Hydrangea H – Week after week I’ve appreciated your perspective on Vanderpump Rules… It must have been a tough show to blog – since so much of it is outlandish and hard to put into sane words… It is just so weird at this point that everyone has been lying… I certainly hope this is all just a bad, bad screenplay… because who could live their lives this way? You’re awesome, Hydrangea H – Thanks for your hard work!

    • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

      HH – thanks for the reunion recap…I’ve been loving that show from the beginning. I just wonder where they go from here. I’m going to try to go back to Sur when I go visit in May.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      I also would like to shout out to HH (same initials as me!) and say that she went above and beyond the call to blog VR. I would rather poke my eyes out with a red-hot poker than watch that show. Cry baby 20-somethings is something I don’t want to live through again. Hurray for you and living to tell about it!

  19. mazelnindy says:

    Ugh this laptop…..does what it wants.
    ….just not invested in them.
    I still love Lisa and feel she is the smartest of the bunch. I still think most of this is made up drama woven into real life stuff……mostly, we are the ones being played. But that’s ok because it would get boring to just tune in to see all the FABULOUSITY.

    Happy Birthday Lizzle!!

    We did add to our family this past April with a rescue Silky/Yorkie. He was found cold and wet walking along a highway in Southern Indiana. It is by the grace of god and good people that he found his way to our home. I have never been so besotted by a dog. We named him Lucky and he is the love of all of our lives.

    Also, if the the term used for Kyle was K****R Kyle I, personally, would not find that offensive.
    Have a great day everyone!

    • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

      awwww, how sweet about your little Silky/Yorkie! It makes me miss Guff. My son had a little Min Schnauzer/Yorkie mix…we all loved that little dog, Guff!

      • mazelnindy says:

        Aw, we were without doggies after we put down our Silky, Riley, when he was 17. It took about 6 years to get another……sorry we waited so long.
        We are going out for a walk now…..since it warmed to about 37. He will be soo excited.

    • California35 says:

      Aaww he is a lucky dog 🙂

  20. Trashy T says:

    Happy birthday Lizzle!

    I’ve been quiet lately because I’ve started to really hate all the name calling in the blog. And I mean
    . name calling directed at the Bravo “stars” not towards any other blog participants. And that’s not to say that many of the women don’t deserve it. I’ve really hated to see all the nastiness turn toward Lisa. I think she is like many of us, well intended but with some occasional bitchiness thrown in. I think she has so much more on her plate than these other women and less and less tolerance for their games and backstabbing. So a big THANK YOU to Quincy for writing so eloquently and expressing much of what I am incapable of saying. And though I feel the way I do that doesn’t mean I think other points of view are wrong. I’m just happy to see someone echo my own.

  21. Beautiful put Quincy! Exactly the way I’ve perceived the BH’s Women this Season. Master puppeteer : Yolanda! Big disappointment to say the least… What they have to gain? The only thing I can see is to be infamous! I remember when Bethenny said in Reunion S3 “It is not good to stay long time in the party” (paraphrasing)… If Lisa, who is the Real Deal in BH, leaves… That franchise has nowhere to go but to sink! Lisa has never demonstrated ILL intentions, like the others, that is to destroy someone because she is a hard worker woman!

    I am not surprised that Nene is so full of herself, Thanks Veena!

    Thanks HH for blogging VR.

    Good Morning to Everyone!

    Quincy: Please, Blog more often!

  22. Big THANKS to Lulu and Mr. Lulu!

  23. MelTheHound - Team T-Rex says:

    First, the Vanderpump’s HOs show. You know I don’t watch but when I read about that somonabitch Jax, and his bullshit ‘Cancer scare’, nearly lost my mind. That is NOT something you joke about or pretend that you may have like an 8 year old faking the flu to get out of going to school. He is below even worthless when it comes to the oxygen he wastes by being on this planet. It’s really too bad that he didn’t go down his mamma’s throat 30 some odd years ago, if y’all catch my drift.

    Second, the charity-noncharity, Why am I not surprised that Mz Coochiecrack would be doing something shady?

    Third, Couple’s Therapy.. Lulu, that sucks, Governor got ahold of the computer. Hopefully Mr will be back up and running soon. As for the show, I think it’s all bullshit. Especially Jenn’s indignation at the end when someone suggested it was all fake. Add to that my question of why is the pornstarnotapornstar (who is doing a sequel to her first notaporn to be called Farrah Takes Rear Entry II) is alone on a couple’s show.

    Fourth – Quincy!!! So great to see you writing here again. No secret I don’t like any of these heifers but you make a very compelling case about a Lisa Take Down.. I couldn’t agree more that the Lemondrop is jealous of her and probably always has been. I never thought Mo told Brandi that Joanna had a special scent but it never occurred to me that Yo would tell the ‘truth cannon’ about it. As for the no outrage al la Bethenny.. People, I think, are just sick of and hardened to the bullshit that Bravo tries to shovel each week. I know I have said this before but again, You could take one cast, and put it in place of another and you would have the exact same show. Anyway, well done 😀

  24. ladebra says:

    Oh gosh, thank you Lulu for your blog. Didn’t mean to leave you out, honest, I’m just wussy and since I don’t watch CT I forgot 😦 very sorry. Hope you have settled in and are enjoying your new home.

  25. HuskerHuny says:


    The Finland men’s hockey team eliminated the Russians today and thereby they are out of contention for any medal. Putin was putting all of his eggs in the men’s hockey basket as the one medal he so dearly coveted. For some reason, this makes me a bit happy – really don’t like that Putin guy!

  26. Trashy T says:

    I missed NMD’s name change to Veena and news of her upcoming venture. I’d love to know what’s up.

    And while I am at it, a very big THANK YOU to everyone who blogs these shows and to all the posters. I do start my day off at 7 a.m. Pacific time looking for each new blog and all the comments.

  27. California35 says:

    Happy Birthday Lizzle

    Good morning everyone!

    Quincy you are so right about the Lisa take down. I liked how you compared it to Bethenny’s take down. I have seen it, but didnt up (i may have some time). I did think the difrence was that on B’s situation it was Jill the only one trying, when on Lisa’s situation it seems likr everyone (except the new girls). After reading your take on this, I remembered that though the main person trying to take B down, others were involved. So both Lisa and Bethenny had to deal with a bunch of lunatics. Still, Jill was the main person for B. Who is the main person for Lisa? Kyle is the common one on every season, not full on, but the others are joing in. Still there is no clear main person. On BH each one has something clear or hidden against Lisa. Either way, all that didnt work on Bethenny’s case. It will not work on Lisa’s.

  28. NMH says:

    I haven’t finished the whole blog yet, but had to say Excellent take on the Bev hills fiasco. I for one am frustrated and have to stop myself at times when I feel the urge to address these people on twitter directly. Really, what would they care what I think when they are so good at twisting things to fit the holes in their own heads? Kyle & Kim were ruined for me season 1, and Yolanda and Brandi are done as well. I do think Lisa was a bit bitchier at the beginning but that was coming off of last seasons reunion and still bad feelings w/Kyle, so I fet it. Funny Brandi had no issues talking negatively abt Kyle at that time but has spun it to Kyle and in her own head how she was innocent. The only thing I think Lisa was guilty of at the party was being nosy of what was going on. She has consistently tried to defend Kyle to Carlton, yet Kyle does nothing but bad mouth. I’m sure Kyle was counting on Lisa to act a certain way, and now that filming and talking heads show otherwise, she knows she screwed up. Ok, now back to reading.

  29. missusmc says:

    Loved what Quincy had to say, and loved the perspective shared. I would like to say that I think people aren’t quite as outraged about Lisa as Bethenny (besides the fact that we are more aware of Brqvo manipulation) is Bethenny was perceived as more vulnerable, and she was a fan favorite because we wanted to protect her. We had seen her in previous seasons longing for a family, crying to Jill’s mom, being taken care of by Jill and Bobby, and she had been labeled as “the underdog.” Sure, she was feisty and scrappy, but she had a soft side many viewers related to, and we saw Jill and Bethenny’s relationship. With Lisa, we have seen some aspects of her relationships, but there’s a reason she is referred to as “the queen”- besides being her fabulous self, Lisa has been portrayed as slightly unobtainable. We were told of her friendship with Kyle, rather than shown, and while Lisa is my favorite housewife right now (besides Heather from New York, which I know I’m the only one here who adores her), she isn’t quite as love able as pre-spinoff Bethenny.

  30. California35 says:

    I trid to watch the VP teunions and talking about loud, talking over the other AND beating the same horse over and over. I tried part 1 and part 2…but i couldn’t take it 😛 so i only saw a little but of each. I did get that Stacci will be gone on next season. Will Kristin leave also? I also got when Lisa said there are other employees. Glad to hear that! Will Shenna have her wedding on VP next season or will she get her own show for it? Hhmm

  31. R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

    Guess who favorited my tweet? The lovely Miss Cat Ommanney. I could do with a Real British Housewives of Beverly Hills spinoff.

  32. Sus says:

    I’m happy to see Q’s post 🙂

    I’ve been kind of ambivalent about Yolanda. When she called David “My Love” in front of the ex, I couldn’t help but wonder if Mo was remembering Yolanda calling him that.

    If there is a cold war going on, they are doing a good job disguising it. David rubs me the wrong way. I think he’s obnoxious. I can’t really explain why.

    I’m very sick of the infighting with these people. It’s just so stupid. Real people don’t act like this. Or at least the people in my life don’t. I feel like we are seeing what the producers have given these women contracts that say they have to gang up or they are off the show. The producers pick someone and then make it happen. It’s ruining the shows.

    VPR – I loved loved loved it when Tom told Stassi she was disgusting the way she went after Kristen. Stassi was beside herself with joy to do it. If Stassi and Jax weren’t together, I don’t think Kristen did anything wrong towards Stassi. It’s not nice and really really stupid but not a betrayal. The betrayal was to Tom.

    Stassi, you do not own a man if he was your boyfriend in the past. Now if Jaxssi were together, that’s a different story.

    I like Tom. I think he’s a good person despite him saying “like” every other word. He’s a gentleman. Despite the betrayal, he wasn’t going to allow Stassi to go gangster on Kristen. I think that was classy. I also liked that he complimented Adriana on how she handled Kristen’s ridiculousness. He probably shouldn’t have done that in front of Kristen but it seemed important to him that he give Adriana public recognition. it was sweet.

    • mrs peabody says:

      I don’t think much of David either, obnoxious is a good word for him and Yolo seems to have some kind of strange obsession with him and thinking he walks on water. I honestly can’t stand her and I can’t even tell you why exactly. I hate the way she talks about her family calling them “my love” all the time, it just sounds weird. I understand her love for them as we all love our spouses and children but she just takes it to another level. Someone yesterday referred to her as a stage mother and that is exactly what she is for both Gigi and her husband. Not sure about the other 2 as you don’t see to much with them. She is one strange person. I do think her jealousy is the driving force behind all this takedown. Brandi joining in because Yolo has probably been paying her more attention than Lisa was (after all she is busy running her businesses while Yolo just picks lemons and paints pictures for her daughter). Kyle joins in because she’d love to see Lisa taken down and she can’t do it, Kim because she…..umm because she’s only working with a few brain cells.

      • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

        you are so funny. I love your comment. However, Yo’s “my love” doesn’t bother me at all. Why??? I do want to say that I am guilty of saying “my love” to my husband and kids – but in Spanish it is not weird sounding to say “mi amor” to someone you love. So many of us just translate it. I don’t know, maybe I’m annoying the crap out of everyone, too. LOLOLOLOL!!!

        • shamrockblonde says:

          haha – that is the one thing that does not bother me about Yo – I will very often call my girls “lovie” – my husband too, although he immediately whines and says “don’t call me that!! – I don’t like it!!!” so I call him sugar bear instead or something equally innane – and then I run! – the “my love” thing is the least of it with her –

    • mm in oc says:

      I disagree. Girl code says you don’t sleep with any ex-boyfriends. It’s a recipe for disaster and just makes everyone uncomfortable.

      The only couple that gets away with that are the two hot tamales (Sue Feniger and Mary Sue Milligan). Mary married Sue’s ex husband, but Sue set them up after she came out as a lesbian.

  33. keeponrockingme says:

    Great posts, today! Just things that popped into my head while reading the recap on the Takedown of Lisa:
    1. Camille and Kyle patched things up because Camille ate serious crow during the Season One reunion. I’d expect that it helped that Maurico wanted to sell Camille’s homes, but it also helped that Camille acknowledged how ridiculous she acted.
    2. Kyle supported Adrienne when Adrienne had some very intimate details about her life aired by Brandi. Once again, it might’ve helped that Maurico wanted to sell their home, but to act as if that’s the sole motivation is to ignore a lot of other stuff that was going on at the same time.
    I have a hard time rooting for anyone on RHOBH. I use to like Kyle, but she plays her hand poorly and is hard to root for when she makes mountain out of molehills. I cannot stand insufferable Carlton and her hypocrisy. Kim is just “meh.” Brandi is a loose cannon and generally a lunatic. I like Joyce for now, but I can see why others get annoyed by her. Yolanda is so two-faced, as Quincy pointed out. If she was always nice Yolanda, I could root for her. Lastly, there is Lisa.
    Here’s the thing on Lisa, I like her. The reason she doesn’t get the support Bethenney did, is because she is NOT an underdog. Lisa has beautiful homes, a wonderful family and thriving businesses. When Jill and Company attacked B, they went after someone’s livelihood (or at least we were led to believe that). If Lisa’s off the show next season, I won’t be worrying about how she makes ends meet. Also, much like B, Lisa has her flaws. We’ve all seen her be not the world’s greatest friend, and she DOES stir the pot, as anyone could see after watching one episode of Vanderpump Rules. I think the takedown is stupid, but I’m not worrying about Lisa not being able to fend for herself.

    • So spot on on “Lisa is NOT an underdog”… They talk about Lisa being Intelligent, like it was a crime to be intelligent! Haa!

    • mm in oc says:

      I think Bethanny got more sympathy because of Jill, not because Bethanny was an underdog (she was only an underdog in terms of the rich people around her, not the average person). Jill was a fan favorite in season one. Then we really saw what a nasty piece of work she was in season two – particularly how she treated Silex. The icing on the cake was Jill stabbing her best friend in her back and refusing to hash it out. Bad move Jill – now and forevermore the most hated housewive in history.

  34. VV™ says:

    Wow Quincy, great assessment of RHOBH! I agree with a lot of the points you made and many have been discussed here. It is great validation for those of us that always thought there was an attempt to take Lisa down – once again this season. It is no secret on this blog that I like Lisa Vanderpump. She’s my all time favorite housewife ever, I get her. Brandi, Kyle, Yolanda, and Kim are what I call “Team Jelly” or “Jelly Team”. They’ve been so transparent to me for a long time. This season, they managed to ruin a perfectly enjoyable franchise. In particular, Yolanda and Brandi, they have been very toxic and the Richards sister are not far behind. It’s been tough and sad to watch.
    Take note Evolution/Bravo…No Lisa, no RHOBH. She makes the show.

    • chismosa™ says:

      VV— this does validate what you’ve been crowing about since first episode !
      Congrats 🏆🏆🏆🏆

  35. Butters'Mom says:

    Yahoo a blog by Q. Loved it.

  36. PJ says:

    My opinion of the Lisa v Bethenny no outrage for Lisa. Bethenny was vulnerable Lisa isn’t. Lisa is tough as nails and if she tries to show vulnerability it won’t come off as real because it probably isn’t. None of these BH ladies has an ounce of vulnerability what they do have are beautiful material possessions, faces full of fillers, fake boobs, Botox, it’s all surface. When you live for the surface and what you own you lose something on the inside. The scene with Bethenny on the street crying because of the way Jill treated her came off as real and she was so vulnerable. The way Jill came after people was like a rabid dog going after a cute little bunny. You had no sympathy for Jill she was too real in her horribleness. BH ladies would do well to learn from what happened on the NY franchise.

    The Lisa adoration kind of makes me scratch my head in wonder. I don’t think Lisa is any better that any one else in this cast. She is smarter and says what she says with a British accent and a dry wit. But I personally believe that she goes after people and probably has done the things she is accused of. I don’t believe what Brandi said had any dire consequences for Lisa, but Brandi should not have said it. I think Lisa is playing us all. I also believe that Kyle was the source of the rumors repeated by Brandi. I believe that in the first season Kyle said exactly what Camille said she did. People didn’t like Camille so they took Kyle’s word for it. Kyle was smart enough to understand what Bethenny says ‘if it didn’t get caught on camera it didn’t happen.’ This is my personal opinion I know in people’s eyes Lisa is the Queen. I think it’s cool to be Queen but the Queen has to poop just like everyone else–ok maybe her potty is gold plated but it all flushes down the same sewer. Long live the queen.

    • SoutheastVA says:

      I totally agree with your assessment.

    • Cartwheels says:

      There is absolutely no comparison between Lisa and Bethenny.
      Jill went after Bethenny like a rabid dog , Lisa has been stirring the pot behind cameras for as long as she could and now that the others are comparing notes it is not looking good for her. Nobody is ganging up on Lisa, she is just being accountable for her misdeeds.

      • PJ says:

        I didn’t come up with the comparison. The question was raised as to why the outrage over the Bethenny take down but not so much with the Lisa take down, that’s what I was speaking about. I agree–I also believe Lisa goes after people just as Jill went after people. But Lisa is smarter about it because she for the most part does it off camera. I think we got a peek at the way Lisa manipulates with the necklace issue. People may say it’s no big deal but it shows that Lisa does manipulate and the way she just sweeps it under the carpet, does not make apologies for what she does, down plays her actions and lies when confronted. For me watching that shows me why her cast mates have turned against her. My guess is that this stuff goes on with her on a large scale off camera.

        • Cartwheels says:

          Jill’s intention was to getrid of Bethenny, Lisa’s intention were to get rid of Adrienne which she did with help from her ally Brandi and this season her intention was to get rid of Kyle, Lisa made a simple mistake, she tried the same trick way too many times and by comparing notes the others realized that Lisa was in this show to further only her own agenda with total disregard for others’ feelings. Plain and simple.

          • PJ says:

            I think Jill went after Bethenny because she was jealous that Bethenny got everything Jill wanted. I’m not sure exactly why Lisa went after Adrienne but I do believe Lisa was behind it feeding information to Brandi. I think Brandi got played, not sure many people will agree with that. As for the personal agenda they ALL have personal agendas, including Lisa she isn’t different in that But yes I do think Lisa pushes her own agenda regardless of how it impacts others. If you look at what Lisa does with the Lisa blinders off you use a pattern of behavior. She gives subtle digs then acts shocked when people take offense, she cries that she was fooled by people when they call her out, she says we can’t just say we’re sorry and get past this then says I thought we were past this when it suits her, she constantly repositions herself in the group. Lisa is smooth.

    • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

      Really? dang,…I was eating! Oh, who am I kidding i still finished my lunch. haha

    • mrs peabody says:

      Lisa is one of my favorites but I wouldn’t use the word Queen to describe her. I do think she is the most popular on that series, the top dog with the viewers. There is always one on every show, sometimes they are the same each season and sometimes they change. I think Lisa has always been the top dog on this series. I like her best because she seems to be the smartest of all them, the most mature, a successful business woman and with her husband (or maybe it’s her alone now) runs a number of successful restaurants. I don’t look at her the same as the rest of these silly women. She does seem more like a mother figure, whether that is good or bad that is what I see when I see her. Brandi is an idiot all the way around or at least that is what she presents to us and I do actually think that is actually her. I’ve known a person like her who always has some crisis going on in their life, it’s always someone else’s fault for the things they do because they don’t think first, always saying what they are thinking. I find people like that tiring and at my age I’m done with their drama and cramp. I don’t need it in my life I just want peace. Kyle is the person who I would like to like because she seems like fun but she is a mean girl, probably always has been and always will be. As long as she likes you you are fine but get in her crosshairs for whatever reason and she will back stab you. Kim is a recovering alcoholic and I do find her funny at times (her talking heads mostly) but in the end she has Kyle’s back big time and you fight with Kyle Kim automatically comes along with that. They have a very dysfunctional relationship but they are sisters and will always have each other’s backs. Joyce seems like a nice person but probably not someone I would hang with even if we were in the same age group, I think she is too much into looking gorgeous all the time, not sure what is underneath that at this point. Carlton is just to weird for me to want anything to do with, I think she likes to put on that image to shock people and don’t know if it’s just for the show or if that is who she really is but I’m guessing most of it is the true Carlton. Yolanda the one I dislike the most and I really don’t fully understand why I dislike her so. I’ve mentioned before I think she is obsessed with her king, I think her being described by another commenter as a stage mother is correct and which I agree with, she seems obsessed with her diet to the point I think she is ridiculous, I’m sick of hearing about her Lyme’s disease, yes she has it, it is horrible but in every blog all season long, enough. I think she is a trouble maker but covers it better than say Kyle and I do also agree that she is jealous of Lisa, Lisa is successful whereas she is an ex model who married 2 rich guys and is a mother who’s life seems to just revolve around her kid and children. There is nothing wrong with that but Lisa’s life is a lot more complicated than hers. There is a reason her ex respects Lisa so much and not Yolanda. I see her as the type who lets others do her dirty work while she acts above it all. Bottom line I see Lisa as a role model but do not see any of the others at that level.

      • mrs peabody says:

        also forgot I do not think Lisa is in anyway perfect she has her faults to, maybe they would get tiring after awhile I don’t know. I think she gets her digs in too as they all do.

      • PJ says:

        It’s not so much that I dislike Lisa it’s just that I don’t believe the persona she portrays. I think she is the kind of person who will come after you big time if you cross her. I think her cast mates are telling the truth about her. We all have our opinions.

      • Mene Seela says:

        Mrs Peabody I love you!! Great post

      • chismosa™ says:

        I pointed out the same thing some time ago, that Yo must be jelly of Lisa because maybe – maybe ?- Lisa is living on her own money she works hard for – probably almost daily
        Yo married two very rich guys with penchant for blondes.

    • trudie says:

      “None of these BH ladies has an ounce of vulnerability what they do have are beautiful material possessions, faces full of fillers, fake boobs, Botox, it’s all surface.”

      I don’t agree, just as you say the Queen has to poop like everyone else, I truly believe that all of these women can get hurt just like everyone else. Some just hide it better than others.

      • PJ says:

        If they have vulnerability they do a great job of hiding it. But maybe it’s just hard to see through all the Botox and fillers.

    • MISHIGA95 says:

      I think there’s not any real outrage because people just don’t care as much about RHOBH as they did about old school RHONY. There was something polarizing about both Jill Zarin and Bethenny Frankel, something that just doesn’t transfer to the ladies on the west coast. I think most people think Lisa can hold her own against anyone – so we’re not too worried about the women trying to mount an attack on her. The cream always rises!

      Great blog, Q!

    • chismosa™ says:

      That’s so funny PJ that you speak of the scene outside where Bethenny is standing in a red coat calling Jill to plead again to “make up” – because to me that scene was the most set-up, well-shot, produced scene. All other things B did made her look more authentically vulnerable to me except that glaringly over the top scene outside in the red coat. Just too overproduced !
      But I get your points. 🙂

  37. Kansas Girl says:

    Adding my thanks to Quincy. Until you pointed it out, I had not figured out what Yolanda adds to the situation. Now it is chillingly clear what is going on. Thanks for that! I will watch now with that idea in mind, but I can already see it fits.

    Of all the players on this show, it’s Lisa I think would be the most fun to hang with. All the others seem false, and many don’t really have much going on. Lisa is such an interesting person with so many projects. For me, she’d be the most interesting to actually know. Plus, I admire how she has used this show to benefit her businesses. She may be getting beat up by the cast, but people who watch the shows are flocking to her restaurants. Amazing and masterful.

  38. toodybird says:

    Lizzle! Happy birthday. Thanks to all the bloggers. Enjoy the posts.

    Ooo. Interesting Quincy brought up S2 Traylor’s attempted coordinated Lisa take down at the tea. I fixated on that. Still do. In the middle of the attacks Lisa embraced Traylor. Kyle was so suprised she couldn’t even spittle. Lisa said something like “Conflict, resolution.”. Ah, bravo.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      And then the take down that was supposed to happy at the reunion (Adrienne, Camille, Kyle, Taylor), but Brandi wouldn’t play nice with those ladies and took Lisa’s side. Wow, how things change.

  39. Buttercream says:

    Happy Birthday Lizzle …thank you Quincy~ Great blog!

  40. lillybee says:

    Thank you all for the great blogs today. Quincy I hope to see you here again.

  41. Cartwheels says:

    IMO there is absolutely no point of comparison between the Bethenny situation and the Lisa situation.
    Jill had her team of misfits: Luann and Kelly but Jill was the mastermind and executioner of her own ill plan , she had decided that Bethenny needed to be ostracized because she has her spin off, she accused her of being uncaring for not reaching out to her when her husband had cancer, she accussed her of telling her off and it was all proved on camera that it was just an orchestration to carry on with her plan. Jill took no prisioners on her desire to get rid of Bethenny, Jill was very sloopy with her manipulations and they backfired on her big time and there was a big uproar.

    Lisa on the other hand is not the Bethenny of the story, she is the Jill, a much classier, smarter and sneakier version of her but a Jill nonetheless. Lisa goes hard after the ones she deems do not have her back, she is relentless when she thinks someone has wrong her, she doesn’t mind if she has to lie and twist if it fits her agenda. It fitted her agenda to ally herself with a trashox hooker like Brandi if that meant she could get rid of Adrienne, it fitter her agenda to call Kyle a liar when she later says in an interview that she knew Kyle was telling the truth about Yolanda, it fitted her agenda to bring up time and time again the cheating allegations or to insinuate Mauricio’s lack of ethics, when something fits Lisa’s agenda to hurt her nemesis, all is fair game.

    Lisa’s saving grace this season and the reason why so many are still blind to her machinations is a member of her own team, Brandi. Brandi’s reputation has gone to the ground, she is a liar, conniving and a classless and trashy person who embellishes like no other and has no moral compass and will do anything to crawl her way to the place where she thinks she belongs, but while she was Lisa’s BFF she could do no wrong. Lisa protected and defended her dirty antics as if her life depended on it, Lisa cuddled her and harrased anybody who dared to go up against Brandi the liar.

    Lisa and her dream team Brandi and Yolanda decided that they were stronger enough and become more arrogant than never before, one set of rules for them and another for the misfit toys, all was fine and dandy until as it is always bound to happen when so many arrogant women are together, her gang started disintegrating, Lisa has nobody else to blame but herself , Lisa was not satisfied with playing a huge part in Adrienne leaving, she was pompous and arrogant enough to give us little statements like ” we sign on this show and it isw all real, we opened our houses to the viewers and they have the right to know everything” and then played this stupid game of “I am bringing the cheating allegation because they are the elephant in the room” when in fact they all are allowed to pick and choose what they talked about and what they do not bring up. Lisa probably thinks all viewers are blind. Matter of fact nobody spoke about the fake lawsuit and that was huge, nobody has spoken about the tampon string and that was in the middle of filming, yet Lisa wants to convince us that 8 week old rumors needed to be addressed.

    Last episode Lisa’s real personality shined loud and clear, just because Lisa has decided that after two seasons of punishment she was ready to move on she convinced herself that all was fine with Kyle and Kyle’s feelings being hurt about her comments about her husband, her marriage and being called a liar didn’t matter, her dismisiveness of other’s person’s feelings and the fact that she thinks that when she is ready to move on then it is done was ridiculous. Lisa was betrayed by her own dream team when they realized that she was trying to play both fields, Lisa wanted to have her cake and eat it too. Lisa was 100% part of the dream team until the tampon incident and then she backed off and made her ally Brandi nervous and all start to unravel.

    That is what happens when you ally yourself for the sole purpose to carry on your personal agenda with disregard of anybody’s feelings, somewhere down the line discontent and sourness are bound to happen. Lisa will never be the Bethenny of this story, IMO she is the refined version of Jill.

    • PJ says:

      The comparison is the difference in the way people reacted to each situation. But I had to laugh when you said Lisa was the Jill of this situation. I agree with you. But most people just don’t see it that way.

      • BB says:

        I don’t see Lisa as the Jill of this situation. I just don’t. I don’t think Lisa is jealous of the other women. Jill was totally jealous when she wasn’t the center of attention. Jill lacks self-confidence. Lisa doesn’t. They are nothing alike in my opinion.

        • Exit4 says:

          I agree with you on that. But I get what cartwheels is saying. Another thing I kind of believes was that Jill thought a fight and big break up with bethenney-followed by a great makeup would be a good plot line. After one too many humiliations bethenney was done. And Jill knew she lost and tried to get her back.

        • Cartwheels says:

          I never said that Lisa is jealous of anybody, Lisa is just the kind of person who likes to have certain control over her friends and that is why she never seems to have friends who are her equal, she always is picking up straight cats who she befriends but the relationship is never equal, they owe Lisa adoration and that is how Lisa likes it. As long as you are kissing Lisa’s behind then she allows you to be on her circle of friends, but I am not under the wrong impression that Lisa ever considers them her equals.
          Adrienne didn’t bow down to Lisa, she is gone. Taylor didn’t bow down to Lisa, gone, Camille didn’t bow down to Lisa, gone. Faye didn’t bow down to Lisa , gone Strategically and one by one Lisa has sucessfully eliminated all the people who could have eventually called her off on their machiavellian behavior. Her next victim was Kyle and she was bound and determined to get rid of her and it didn’t matter if she had to go after her marriage or her husband’s ethics, she was going to get it done , better yet she was going to have her team do it for her and then behind curtains be nice to Kyle so she could have comne smelling out like roses, this is basically what she did with Brandi in season 2, but it has now backfired on her because Yolanda is not her puppet and has also a strong voice.

          Kim? she didn’t even rank high enough for Lisa to consider her a treat and she is probably surprised that Kim has anything to say. Lisa put these dream/nightmare dream together to take Kyle down and is probably surprised that somewhere down the line they ended up trying to take her down.

          Lisa is the best example of an arrogant woman who doesn’t see anything wrong with her stupid machinations and then acts surprised when her pawns compare notes and decide it is time to call her out.

          • Sus says:

            I love you Cartwheels but I disagree. I haven’t seen anything that says Lisa had anything to do with Adrienne, Taylor or Camille leaving the show. Faye was never part of it besides hanging out.

            Taylor’s husband hung himself after Taylor said he was hitting her. That’s why she isn’t on the show anymore. Camille and Adrienne were boring. That’s why they aren’t on the show anymore. Faye was never a housewife.

            TV executives don’t care what Lisa wants. They care about ratings and money that comes in from advertising. There’s no way they would allow Lisa or anyone else tell them who is going to be on their shows.

            Maybe I’m wrong, but Lisa doesn’t give me the impression that she could be bothered scheming to take down the other HWs. She seems much more secure than that.

          • PJ says:

            I agree that Lisa likes to collect strays not because she wants to give people a chance but because it suits her purpose. Unfortunately I know people like that their friendships are never on equal terms. Then when their friends manage to get on an equal level the friendship is over.

            • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

              Are Cedric or Brandi on an equal level now? is that why their friendship is over? If not them, then when did it happen that she collected a stray that managed to get on an equal level as Lisa. You mean financially? I haven’t seen the scenario you’re describing.

              • PJ says:

                No I was not talking about them. I said I know people who always pickup strays as friends and never anyone on their level by that I was not talking about financial equality but people that are needy going through a difficult time something like that. Money has nothing to do with that kind of needy. Then if these friends happen to become equals and that means if they get their life together and are no longer in a needy situation which is not necessarily financial, then the friendship is over. Certainly Cedric and Brandi are unlikely to become equals in a financial sense with Lisa but the fit as people who are in a needy situation needing to get their life together. You don’t have to have money to have your life together.

              • Kansas Girl says:

                According to Lisa’s blog, Cedric and Brandi were never friends. Brandi “misrepresented” (read: invented) that “friendship”.

                • PJ says:

                  That may be true but there were pictures of them together on the internet before Brandi was on HW. It’s also silly that Lisa said Brandi came into my life through a lie, they all come into each other lives through some manufactured circumstances.

                  • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

                    Last season Brandi swore up and down that she didn’t know Cedric and it was all put on by “production”-they met for lunch and had some pics taken but Brandi said all the other stuff was made up…then she said it wasn’t and Cedric helped get her on the show-of course this was after the Adrienne thing when some people called Brandi out for being so hateful to Adrienne after Adrienne helped get her on the show….so many lies it’s hard to remember the truth!!!

                    • PJ says:

                      It may have been manufactured by producers I have no idea. They all come into one another’s life through manufactured circumstances. For Lisa to make the claim she made is ridiculous. There were pictures of them together before housewives and maybe a sound bite on one of those reality news shows like TMZ or something like that. Brandi may have been told to say whatever she said, I don’t know but they all make claims that are not true.

                • Cartwheels says:

                  Cedric said that two seasons ago and Brandi confirmed that in fact was producer driven before season 2 was over so Lisa has known this for two seasons but she wants us to believe that she just found out and this is breaking news? Please
                  Now that she is at odds with Brandi she is willing to go one by one through all the lies Brandi has said that suddenly now bother her , lol
                  What is next? Her fake outrage to find out that the lawsuit was fake?

                  • PJ says:

                    Funny. Lisa is working hard on damage control. But if Lisa says the lawsuit was fake then she was also lying because she confirmed it at the time.

          • BB says:

            And I never said you said Lisa was jealous. I was only pointing out why I don’t think “she is the Jill.”

          • rabblerouser2010R says:

            I agree with you Cartwheels.

            I think that some fans are starting to see this side of Lisa, but overall she still tremendous support. So much so, that Carlton is getting some positive feed back on the blogs just by licking Lisa’s hole. I would take an act of God to get me to like Carlton, but for some folks a few kind words from her about Lisa will suffice.

            I have a feeling that Lisa is going to be a total nightmare next year.

            That episode where she was being pampered and had all those people fawning over her…she had this look in her eye that really bothered me. It looked like how I imagined Countess Elizabeth Bathory did soaking in the blood of young girls.

            • chismosa™ says:

              Oh my god. That was a photoshoot. And besides – if she had that everyday – good for her- she worked and works hard and deserves to have people work for her.

              Are people mad at European royals who have people at their beck and call (sp?)
              Or stupid actors and celebs ?


        • PJ says:

          I don’t think anyone said Lisa was jealous, I’m not sure what the deal is with Lisa. The comparison was in the manipulating not the motives.

          • BB says:

            I didn’t say anyone said Lisa was jealous. I was pointing out one of the main differences (and there are many) between Lisa and Jill. Jill’s motivations for the things she did was jealously. I don’t see that as Lisa’s motivation for anything she does, right or wrong. Cartwheels said “she is the Jill.” I disagree and was pointing out one of the differences between the two. They are night and day.

    • California35 says:

      Hhmmm intetsting, and this may be the answer to those asking how come there is no blog out there named i hate brandi or whoever else is against Lisa. On this case unlike with Bethenny, there is so much more and so much doubt that Lisa is a victim.

      • Orson says:

        Maybe it’s this… between the NY Jill vs Bethany war and the simultaneous current Atl fighting and BH Lisa vs Team Not Lisa war, everyone who’s followed those three franchises has also been following NJ and after all the NJ warfare, it’s difficult to get THAT upset about the BH cast’s little shenanigans. Sure, they’ll talk behind each other’s back and lie and stuff, but where’s the fisticuffs? Though Brandi bringing up this fake bankruptcy, playing the victim card, and going to social media is beginning to approach NJ levels. But Lisa is much too smart to even raise her voice, let alone react in a Gorga, Guidice, Larita or Manzo manner. Which leaves Brandi swinging in the wind all by her lonesome.

        • California35 says:

          Yeah, and Jill did other thingd independently of B. Fighting with Ramona and Alex and Simon and Mario. Her cattiness comments, her bragging, her knowladge of everything, her behind the scenese abouy her book review, i mean the list goes on and on 😛

    • Exit4 says:

      Thank you….totally agree!!! The Lisa Kool Aid is very potent!
      Oddly enough, I like Lisa-but like Teresa G (I like her too) I KNOW what she is. I can SEE her faults, but find likable things in both. I don’t doubt some people would like to take her down-bit I’m in the minority in believing that Kyle is not the mastermind. I think she was someone whose friend turned in her. Because she didn’t have her back-when she maybe didn’t deserve it. I find Kyle a little mean, but ultimately harmless.

      • Cartwheels says:

        It might be very potent here but I have read other blogs and they are all calling out Lisa for her machinations so more and more people are starting to realize the nature of Lisa’s mind games. If Lisa wouldn’t be so hypocritical it would be easy to be on her side but unfortunately I hate double standards and Lisa demands her friends a level of loyalty that she never gives.
        Yolanda and Brandi might be picking at slims but that is Lisa’s own team so they all deserve each other but IMO Kyle’s issues with Lisa are very real, Lisa went after her marriage and after her husband’s ethics, she is now crying because some silly rumors can have consequences over her business but she didn’t think for a second that her allegations could have an impact on Mauricio’s business.
        Never ask what you are not willing to give. Lisa just seems to believe that one set of rules apply to her and her allies and another set for the ones who are not on friendly terms with her.
        I dislike Yolanda and Brandi just as much as I dislike Lisa but these three and their unholly alliance were a group of bullies and mean girls last season and most of these season so if they are ripping each other apart now then more power to them.

        • Exit4 says:

          I see that too. Lisa isn’t unique in doing these things-lots if people do. They’re just less fabulous. 😉

          I’m so curious to see what actually happens next week! Not sure of the reunion-i tend to hate them.

        • keeponrockingme says:

          I wish I could give you a high-five. That is so, so spot-on, IMO.

          • Cartwheels says:

            Thanks, I know is not a popular opinion to have on this blog but I am use to it, last year when everybody was gushing over Brandi , I could through her like through a fake three dollar bill. Lisa has played her hand way too many times so the benefit of the doubt that I gave her the first two seasons are long gone for me.

        • Katie (aka kats2) says:

          Cartwheels you perfectly summarized my issues with Lisa. Thank you!

    • SoutheastVA says:

      Cartwheels – You are spot on. I don’t see why so many are snowed by Lisa. The last episode she lied, tried to instigate trouble at Gigi’s party, was rudely dismissive of others feelings and arrogant. I believe people when they show me who and what they are.

  42. AZGirl says:

    Catching up. Thank you Lulu and HH for the recaps. Really.. I don’t know how you two watch those shows. Taking the bullet for Lynn’s Fam.

  43. Eastbayca says:

    Apparently “Saving Our Daughters” is a faux charity…..

    On other news JZ has finally achieved 1M twitter followers (most are fake).

    • shamrockblonde says:

      Happy Birthday Lizzle!! *sets down a Carvel Ice Cream cake* – hope all of your wishes come true!!!

      when I saw the little interactions between Mohammed and Yo – he defending Lisa for having her husband’s party on the day she had it – instead of saying that it was in poor taste for her to do that to Yo and her reaction to his non-support of her – her absolute lie when she recounted Mohammed’s comments regarding her sneakers to her current husband king – and Mohammed setting the record straight – it is very clear that both Lisa and Mohammed have a wonderful friendship as well as a very high respect of each other personally and professionally – this annoys Yo – I picture her trailing after Mohammed and his fiancee and Ken and Lisa calling out “but look!!! I have lemons!!! and my husband, the King!!!” I don’t know her past – I don’t know her medical history, so I will not comment on her fight with Lyme disease or pretend to know how it has affected her – I will say though, that there is something there – something unresolved between Yo and Mohammed – what I cannot discren is whether or not it is something that exists only in her head, or if it is real – either way it is that little rock that is throwing all of these ripples across her interactions with – or rather toward – Lisa –

      Lisa can hold her own – and she has a good man – a truly good man – with her – all of this “I wanna be the bestest” crap is only making the others look like a bunch of idiots –

      Quincy – great blog!! – thanks to HH and Lulu too!! – and of course to NMD!! – I saw your tweet with Lisa – hope she retweets!!

      I love you all, you know – always –

      • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

        Yo seemed giddy to have the cameras at HER event – the party for her Gigi. She was so amp’d it was borderline annoying. However, Gigi’s speech was great filled with gratitude and also letting folks know she wanted to work hard like her parents did. She seems like a sweet kid.

      • R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

        Does anybody really find Yolanda that interesting? Mohammed is interesting, David is interesting, Gigi is interesting. I think it burns her that Lisa is interesting to viewers. Her stupid cleanses, lemon orchard, and finger painting is just not doing it for viewers.

    • HuskerHuny says:

      How much did it cost her?

    • R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

      Sorry, I forgot.

      I hate Jill Zarin.

  44. PJ says:

    I don’t watch Atlanta anymore but wasn’t there something in the past with a fake charity? Was it Nene who was involved?

  45. BB says:

    I think the comparison to be made in most cases of Real Housewife takedowns comes down to one word – jealousy. The ones who tend to be the most popular with the viewers (Bethenny, Lisa, even Teresa) seem to be the ones who must be taken down a peg or two by the others, led by those who fully expected to be the stars (Jill, Kyle, Caroline), but it didn’t work out that way. When these franchises first started I believe Jill, Kyle and Caroline were the ones who were expected to be the stars of the show. I think they saw themselves in that role. When it didn’t work out that way, they didn’t like it. Then others came along to add to the drama (Yolo, Brandi, Melissa Gorga). I agree with Q in that women are horrible to women. I’ve seen see it in school, I’ve seen it in the workplace, I’ve seen it in places of worship, I see it on these shows, I see it on twitter, and I’ve seen it right here on this blog from time to time, although for the most part the people here are encouraging and lift each other up and are happy for each other’s accomplishments. Too bad it can’t be that way elsewhere. For the most part though, 95% of all this housewife stuff is manufactured for ratings and viewership. You’d think by the declining ratings of BH that Bravo would have a clue it’s not working. I expect New York to go down that road this season and their ratings will reflect that. Bravo went the wrong direction with these two franchises. JMO.

    • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

      Great comment, BB. ITA

    • Exit4 says:

      Love this!

    • PJ says:

      I agree women can be horrible to each other. My daughter told me the female students in grad school were horrible to each other and even sometimes physically pushed others out of the way to be first to get materials needed. I had to talk her down because it was so bad she felt like she didn’t belong there. She said ‘do these people not realize they will be working with children and will have to be kind and patient.’ She took our talks to heart and ended up with a 4.0. The few male students did not act like that.

    • mariareads says:

      Agree. agree. agree! Jealousy is a really ugly, ugly thing and it’s why I have always enjoyed working with men rather than women. I worked in an all female international department and it was a nightmare! Women can be catty and jealous; of you, of your success, of your kids, of your home. of your clothes. You name it. I’m sorry to have to admit that. It’s why I have 3 best friends and the rest are at arm’s distance.

      • Catseye says:

        I agree. And it’s not only co-workers, but female neighbors, who can be every bit as envious. SICK-O!!!!!!!

    • chismosa™ says:

      Totally agree.

  46. R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

    Here some explaining of the show’s production. Read what is says about Cat O about two-thirds down:

  47. LavaLady (Mary) says:

    Thanks Quincy! Nice to see you again after all this time. Sorry I am not on facebook, so I don’t keep up with you, but it is great to see you are still blogging about the housewives.

    Happy Birthday Lizzle!

    Losing patience with BH. They are all ridiculous in their own way.

    • Cartwheels says:

      LOL, at this point I have to laugh
      I always knew Brandi was a conniving liar and I never bought her poor victim status.

      No problem, there is nothing Brandi can’t make up.
      Next interview she will come with some rolled up papers on her purse which she will claim are the communication between her and Eddie’s lawyers as evidence of her true telling but very conveniently she will not show them to anybody. For further dramatic effect she will also talk about her lawyer fees and how this is taking food out of her kids’ mouths and then she will shed a tear or two and anybody who wants to call her out or even ask to see the papers to verify will be told to STFU. Ken will growl at anybody who dares to question her and will remind the world that she is a poor single mother and Lisa will verify that she in fact has seen the lawyer’s receipt and they are no longer 3K but they are now up to 20K. Oh wait!! that was last season.

      Dang Brandi, you will have to find yourself another couple who defends your lies and passionately as Lisa and Ken did , I am not sure King David will do it, maybe your BFF Carlton? maybe loony Kim? I doubt Mauricio will have anything to do with you , see what happens when you make up lawsuits? somewhere down the line you became the boy who cried wolf.

      • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

        She will not be trusted by another couple or cared for as she was by Lisa and Ken…the one thing that surprises me is that Lisa actually thought Brandi wouldn’t turn on her? Where ever did she get the idea that Brandi is trustworthy? Everyone says how smart Lisa is and I see that she is very business savvy but I will never understand how she did not think this was coming!
        Another thing is I don’t understand is why anyone including Lisa thought that Kyle wouldn’t kind of have satisfaction in seeing it go down-Lisa pretty much called Kyle a liar last reunion with the whole Yolanda thing (which we know Lisa knew about and now says she should have believed Kyle-too late Queenie) and a user-why be surprised that Kyle listened as Brandi talked shit about Lisa? And why be surprised that Kyle didn’t defend Lisa? Why would she? She didn’t know Lisa changed her mind and NOW believes what she said about Yolanda and Kyle didn’t know that Lisa was defending against Carlton (which let’s face it-most people think Carlton is a loony so Lisa wasn’t sticking her neck out for Kyle she was pretty much agreeing with 90% oft he viewers) . I wouldn’t have defend Lisa then either-not after all that crap!!

    • PJ says:

      This article is kind of double speak on the one hand it says Eddie’s rep says it isn’t true on the other hand it says sources say it is true. I not buying that he hasn’t asked for support because I don’t believe anything he says. If Brandi is lying this doesn’t prove it. But it is interesting that any one can say anything and the one who will be called a liar is Brandi.

      • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

        i think it’s because she lies a lot. She’s been caught in a few yarns, so people tend to think once a liar, always a liar. It’s hard to trust someone who is known to fabricate stories and state them as fact. I think that’s all there is to this.

        I, too, was confused by this non story, by the way.

        • PJ says:

          BTW did lunch include cake?

          • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

            LOL!! Actually mid afternoon snack was an amazing cupcake from ‘Hey cupcake” – Jan (TX Tart should know them). A dozen were delivered to our office for the assoc pastor…she’s not here,…so…..we saved her a couple. Mine was carrot cake. And I ate it ALL. I had to lie down for 10 minutes the sugar let down was so huge. BUT IM BACK BABY!!!

      • BB says:

        Maybe it’s because Brandi has been known to “misrepresent the truth” in the past. lol

        • LaineyLainey BTHOC, TRex says:

          They all do that to some extent, right? But hers have been ongoing doozies. a little bit bigger and louder than your average fib.

          average fib: ” I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings” what you really mean “I’m sorry I have to answer for talking crap about you. I didn’t think it would come back and bite me in the butt.”

          as opposed to Brandi’s doozies “Lisa and Ken were filing bankruptycy from a studio apartment in the valley.” when what she really meant “I’m gonna let my mouth write a check my butt can’t cash, but at least it gets my name out and maybe someone will think less of Lisa and Ken. maybe? Anyway, It’s not my fault.”

          • PJ says:

            In that case I think Brandi was told that Ken and the Queen of Pink were going to or were thinking of filing bankruptcy and she quoted it wrong. I don’t think she was actually lying. It’s easy for them to say they ever filed but they may have thought about it, perhaps had some business difficulties and brought in partners. This is a situation where Brandi needs to just zip it. But again there is no actual proof that Brandi was lying, this is another case of taking other peoples word.

            • Orson says:

              It’s possible that in her wine and prescription medication addled mind, she heard something, misunderstood it, let the thought echo in her addled mind, and then when she was short for something to say in her podcast or to a pap, she fired off the “Her Truth” cannon. I recall Taylor doing something quite similar while she was plastered with something Brandi said as a joke at a party.

      • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

        The “source” also said that Brandi was told not to discuss the matter-which Brandi did on social media..I’m more inclined to believe what a rep says over a “source”. Every time Brandi needs attention out come the ex husband stories-she’s trying to sell a book and she knows mentioning her big mean cheating ex husband gains sympathy-sympathy sells books. Brandi lies-a lot. It’s hard to believe a word she lisps. It her own doing.

  48. Mene Seela says:

    I agree with almost all of you … That’s how confusing this all is to m.

    Firstly I love love love Lisa but I don’t feel protective of her. I believe she created the current dynamic of her takedown.
    Lisa plays hardball and it can be painful.

    As BB so wisely pointed out Kyle was the nuclious of the franchise. I believe she brought her friend Lisa aboard. Kyle thought she was The Star. While Kyle and Mauricio were negotiating with Bravo for a spin off Kyles buddy Lisa was ALSO negotiating with Bravo for VPR. Lisa got her show and Mauricio did not.

    Did Lisa ever tell Kyle herself?? I wonder when Kyle learned Lisa was negotiating? Before? After? During? I can understand Kyles being hurt and angry.

    Lisa strikes me as someone who won’t apologize, even when she’s wrong. That tends to piss people off. Especially your friends.

    • chismosa™ says:

      Kyle brought Lisa to the show ….?
      I didn’t know wow

      As in how Jill brought Bethenny ……

      I in NO means find anything similar between Beth and Lisa apart from that .. 😜

      • T-Rex says:

        No VileKyle did NOT bring Lisa to the show!

        • chismosa™ says:

          Oh ok ……

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  49. not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

    Yolanda has a few things to say about the blog (or maybe it’s just about the tweet-either way!!)

  50. Orson says:

    About if Mo was remembering Yo calling him “My love” when she called David that in front of Mo, I’m pretty sure he’s over her. He’s glad she’s married to David. No spousal support then, you know? David did Mo a favor.

    Am I the only one to wonder if perhaps Jill’s attack on Bethany was sort of orchestrated by Luanne? Take down one pushy young upstart and a competitor for queen too with just a few off camera whispered words in Jill’s ear? No blowback on her and both the Jewish women are gone. Until they hired 2 more Jewish women and a princess as replacement castmembers.

  51. mariareads says:

    mazel, I have a very important question to ask you re something you posted on yesterday’s blog. Nothing bad, nothing sneaky. Would you be willing to contact me? It has to do with your post about your medical issues over the last year. It would really help me out a great deal. Hope you see this.

  52. mariareads says:

    NMD, would you give me your email address? I know it’s on the blog somewhere but I can’t find it. Thanks so much!


  53. VV™ says:


  54. mariareads says:

    The blogs are GREAT today and I am especially happy to see Quincy’s words on the take down of Lisa. I have been going back and forth on Lisa all season but I still come back to the feeling that there is something not so nice going on with the other women on RHBH and their bead drawing on Lisa. While not a perfect character (are any of us?) I just don’t see her as the terrible villain who is responsible for so much trouble. That said, I have seen her stir the pot here and there this season. Who knows? Maybe she has just had enough of them taking aim at her. Wouldn’t surprise me if she is playing them like a cat and mouse and enjoying the game. Anyway, it was a terrific set of blogs today all around!

  55. chismosa™ says:

    Happy Birthday Lizzle 🎁🎉🎊🎁🎉🎊🎁🎉🎉🎁

    A blog from Quincy – oh my gosh…. Memories ..! I can’t wait to sit and read this.

    I don’t think scary island is on the top 10 tonight everyone. …. I have a feeling 💩😡😡😠 😦

    • mariareads says:

      Really? It’s on my top ten that’s for sure. I remember I watched it over and over because I couldn’t believe what I was seeing/hearing. It was great LOL!!!

  56. VV™ says:

  57. chismosa™ says:

    Ashy–how was trivia??? Did you win anything ?
    Was Huey Lewis one of the questions ?😆😆😆😆😆

    You didn’t send for me but I’m coming for you …..

    • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

      Hey Girl…trivia was FUN but we didn’t win…I can’t wait to go again!!

      • chismosa™ says:

        I’m so glad ….

        I’m happy you knew what I was referring to


  58. chismosa™ says:

    TRex I hope today went well for you ❤

  59. not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

    Someone is tweeting for Brandi…this is not her tweet for sure!!

    • California35 says:

      Her publisher? Since this is about the book and she is making her rounds about the book, she needs to follow the publisher’s advice. Remember Brandi said that because she is the one with the money, she owns her.

      • Pghemtchick says:

        She posted she gave her password to the Gay-gent. I bet he’s all over it. I suspect he’s behind this tweet as well-adding the #stfu to make it appear to be Brandi. Cause we all know Brandi is the first person to nit pick language skills:

        • chismosa™ says:

          I love that top tweet !
          Nice wording ….. Ha!

        • R to the E to the B to the E to the C to the C to the A says:

          Wait, what? Can somebody translate? I only do for Tre G.

          • chismosa™ says:


            I think she’s trying to sound “literate” as she is an ACCLAIMED NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER 2x now–
            She is correcting that the tweeter said “neither” when writing to 3 people.

            Yeah Brandi is the grammar police. Okie dokey!

            • Orson says:

              I’m trying to figure out who would ever take grammar advice from someone who spells the word “you” as “u”.

    • chismosa™ says:

      That’s a write up/ blurb from her publisher FO SHO

    • MelTheHound - Team T-Rex says:

      Maybe not but it’s funny as hell 😆

  60. looneylucy says:

    Idol starting now, EST. Really good season. I like the Keith and Harry dynamic.

  61. chismosa™ says:

    Oh my gosh — I can’t believe Lisa tweeted to NMD Lynn’s fam — congrats that’s awesome !

  62. chismosa™ says:

    She’s in Tijuana (!!!???) for a new doctor ??
    Guess things are not going well ? I do feel for her.

  63. AZGirl says:

    Thinking about the previews of next week’s episode and Kim. Q brings up in her blog what we have seen in previous seasons regarding Kim’s struggles with addiction. This season Kim is barely filmed but when she is its “light” about “family” and her new lease on life. In the next episode Kim is attacking Lisa regarding stupid stuff i.e. her daughter’s graduation party. Richard sisters going on Bethenny’s show and blaming Lisa for revealing her addiction problems? Memo to Kim: your sister Kyle threw you under the bus in the limo S2.

    Kim’s tenure at Bravo is hanging on a thin thread. She is desperate to stay relevant. She needs the cash. Kim is broke.

    On the previews we see this insane person go off on Ken in next week show. WTF? She has not nor has Kim been capable of handling anything up until this season due to addiction. We now see her appear in Puerto Rico taking down Lisa and Ken at dinner for no reason other than being a bit#h trying to save her job at Bravo. This is a disgrace and Ken and Lisa deserve better.

    • chismosa™ says:

      Great comment. Maybe Kim is losing it being without alcohol – and I don’t know what else she has/had an addiction to.

      What if Kyle is renewed but not Kim?

      Sorry I’m behind on the blog – catching up!

  64. looneylucy says:

    I could be really snarky here, but I won’t go there. Tijuana seems extreme for her Lyme.

    • chismosa™ says:

      You couldn’t pay me. My uncle got his car stolen, among other things – when he drives to Tijuana from San Diego for work.

      • looneylucy says:

        One of my older brothers visited there in the late 60’s when he was a lad. Brought home mom a huge glass blown ‘fruit dish’. No telling what he also brought home! DH also told a story of going there before or after Viet Nam, don’t remember, and doesn’t matter but he damn sure didn’t bring a fruit dish home for his mother! Dated a guy in the late 80’s….nevermind,

    • looneylucy says:

      should have posted to Chismosa’s Yolanda post just above. Took awhile to post.

  65. chismosa™ says:

    I got the weirdest error message :
    It’s kind of funny. Haha
    Who’s Matt?

    It works fine now but it was funny —


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    We’ve just been notified of the problem.

    Hopefully this should be fixed ASAP, so kindly reload in a minute and things should be back to normal.

    • looneylucy says:

      I got the Matt message, too. Sounds like we’re trippin’. Funny thing is, I’ve never “been trippin”! I’ll hang loose for awhile.

      • chismosa™ says:

        Oh I’m glad because I was doing the “attempt” at streaming yesterday so I was worried that it was me being messed up 🙂

  66. T-Rex says:

    Oh and I would like to mention that one of SpaceCadetKim’s children was “baker acted”, ie taken to the looney bin for running stark naked and spouting jibberish, DURING FILMING, I believe it was the third week in July. Now, the show isn’t going to cover this, but I would think that SpaceCadetKim should be more worried about her family, than what LisaV is doing.

  67. chismosa™ says:

  68. chismosa™ says:

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  69. not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:


    • chismosa™ says:

      Jill I told you …. It does not take a lot anymore to get on this list.

      I knew this would happen
      I did order 5 copies.

      • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

        I just looked at the list and didn’t see her book…must be past number 25? Idk??

        • Veena (NMD) says:

          Last time she got the news a few days before the new list posted.

          • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

            Makes sense then…I’m a little surprised-I didn’t think her fan base was big enough for this. Since she has another best seller I’m sure a third book will be ready soon-she said she already started writing it…great!

  70. mazelnindy says:

    Hi Mariareads, I would be happy to “speak” with you off blog. NMD, if it is in your powers, you may release my email addy to Mariareads. Thank you!!

  71. mariareads says:

    Thank you so much mazel. It’s a quick question.

  72. chismosa™ says:

    • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

      During this Q and A sesh on twitter someone asked him why he didn’t like Teresa and he said that he is a lot closer to Teresa than people think…

  73. chismosa™ says:

    Maybe she’s arranging to go back to Bravo.
    Maybe under his production company?

    • California35 says:

      Of course!!! And i would sooooo watch it 🙂

      • chismosa™ says:

        From network tv and syndication ……back to bravo ….. Ok !

        I’m sure he’s furiously courting her.
        🙄 🙄
        🙄 🙄

    • Cartwheels says:

      LOL , this must burn Jill like hell, Jill wants so bad to be back and here it is Andy shamelessly courting bethenny already.

  74. Amalfi says:

    You guys I;ve been MIA for the past few weeks – just busy with life except for one or two drive by posts even fairly recently but I did not know until right now that we lost Nancy, My heart is broken. I specifically came here to see if she had something to say about skating… the first skating I have seen in the Olympics has been today, I only went back a few posts and still don’t know what happened. Heartbroken Heartbroken 😦

    • chismosa™ says:

      Oh my god Amalfi I’m sorry you’re just getting this news. It’s such a tragedy. 😦

      I think overall it was heart-related? She was supposed to get her pacemaker replaced I believe?
      It’s so sad, and i just saw the most beautiful skater …. I think of Nancy 😦

      Hope all is ok with you —

      • Amalfi says:

        Ah Chismy. Yuna Kim the girl in yellow? That is the only reason I stopped by. She was gorgeous and even though I didn’t know Nancy that well, and I only follow skating sporadically — out of all of the people in my life, that Nancy would be the first I would think of whose opinion interested me — that surprises me and is a gut punch and a testement to the bond of this blog 😦 Rest in peace, Nancy.

        • chismosa™ says:

          She wore my favorite color chartreuse …. I was hoping she was from Japan. So graceful. Better than the ballerina Russia put in their opening ceremony !

          The girl before her in bright yellow was so gangly and ungraceful.

          Tomorrow is finals ? I will have to watch tomorrow night.

          I do wish Nancy was here badly so we could chat to her about this. 😦

    • Veena (NMD) says:

      We don’t know any more than what Mookiesmom told us on her memorial blog – posted on Friday night. It is so heartbreaking.

    • VV™ says:


  75. not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

    Scary Island revisited…Jill when she SURPRISES them and Bethenny imitating her horn’s still so friggen funny!! I need to see the whole Scary Island trip -the uncut version!! Nobody does kookoo like Kelly!!!!

    • California35 says:

      It make it?? What #?

    • Cartwheels says:

      I loved it!
      If bravo ever decides to air the unedited version of Scary Island it sure would be a ratings hit. Kelly was completely off her rocker and Jill showing up there pretending that she wanted to make peace with Bethenny? Unbelievable.

      I have always wonder if it was during the Scary Island trip that Ramona and Alex told Bethenny about the e-mail that Jill had sent them asking all of them to sabotage B and not film with her. It was either then or shortly before the 100 sexiest party were Bethenny announced her engagement because before Bethenny was groveling for Jill’s friendship and then suddenly it seems like she was done. I wonder how that conversation came about and how Ramona and Alex told her.

      • California35 says:

        Good question. They did seem to bond on thay trip, so maybe it was there.

      • chismosa™ says:

        Ooooh a great question Carthwheels ….

        Plus Bethenny was hormonal, bonding a lot with Ramona and Alex…. Maybe it did come out around then.
        You’re right about the timeline and Bethenny suddenly not caring about reconciling.

        (Sorry didnt read this earlier as I hadn’t watched it yet)

    • nyc mama says:

      Jill, I lol every time I see it as if I haven’t seen it before. I would love to see the entire weekend. The expressions on everyone faces are priceless. What a hoot!!!

      • California35 says:

        I would like to watch all the seasons leading to it and that season. After that, it was not that intereting.

      • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

        It’s so funny…Ramona saying “I can’t EFFING believe it”…and Alex shaking in her pedi chair…Sonja is calm as can be and Ramona is just sooooo Ramotional…hysterically so!!!

        • California35 says:


          Thank you all for talking about it. I will be watching it until tomorrow… And i couldnt wait to find out if that was shown 🙂

        • nyc mama says:

          What about the dropped glass! Or Kooky getting frightened of the gift bag!…there are so many. She was the gift that kept on giving.
          But for me it is watching Kooky and all her antics and the expressions on everyone’s faces watching her, trying to figure what the heck was going on. It just kept getting better and better.

          And then at the end, they wrapped each other in toilet paper. A perfect ending.

          • chismosa™ says:

            I don’t remember a dropped glass. Darn …. On the island ?

            Maybe on the yacht? I don’t recall.

  76. chismosa™ says:

    VV this one is for you

    Good laughs. 😋

  77. not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:


  78. VV™ says:

    Somebody tell SpaceCadetKim the title of Brandi’s NEW book please.

  79. VV™ says:

    • VV™ says:

      • chismosa™ says:


        This is KRA KRA
        Conundrum in BH….. What will they do? Not re-sign Kim? Keep Kyle?
        Whoa !

        • T-Rex says:

          Since SpaceCadetKim was only making the money of a Friend of the Hwives anyway, she wasn’t making what even Porsha is making, I would think that Bravo would have not problem retiring SpaceCadetKim. She didn’t show up all season until apparently next week anyway. I will say this the HILTONSonHIGH I am sure will be having some pow-wows with the BitchardSisters this weekend. I am sure they are HIGHLY embarrassed at this point with both of their behaviours this week, especially towards their BFF’s Lisa and Ken.

          • chismosa™ says:

            So Kim is paid practically nothing ?
            Not even as a full cast member even though she holds a diamond ?

            Sooooooooo stupid. That’s like having Rosie in NJ pose in the opening credits and have a tagline!

            • T-Rex says:

              Nope, she is the LOWEST paid Hwife of any of the franchises. It’s one of the reasons she gets a PASS at never showing up to any of the events unless she feels like it. Bravo wanted to CUT HER this year but VileKyle begged for her, as I believe did some other Hwives including LisaV, so that she would have some sort of income, because as of this year she has lost all Child Support from her many baby-daddies, and I believe some Alimony as well.

          • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

            The Hilton’s are embarrassed by someone’s behavior? Their daughter is PARIS HILTON-that family doesn’t know from embarrass-they are missing the embarrass gene!!!

      • Cartwheels says:

        I pride myself of having very good memory and I just can’t remember one instance when Ken has been supportive of Kim. Supportive of Brandi , yes; supportive of Mauricio, yes; but supportive of Kim I just can’t remember, maybe behind cameras?

        • not THAT Jill -Team T-Rex says:

          He always seemed like he had no patience for Kim-I don’t blame him but that’s how I see it.

          • Cartwheels says:

            I agree, I also don’t blame him for not having patience for her even though having a son who struggles with addiction you would think he would be more sympathetic and patient with Kim but I just don’t remember ken ever being supportive of Kim.
            Not sure what Lisa is referring to.

            • ladebra says:

              I don’t remember Ken speaking about Kim either. What in the world could she mean? For that matter, I don’t remember Ken saying anything offensive to Kim either. Maybe Kim dreamed Ken spoke badly to her.

            • PJ says:

              Lisa is in full damage control mode.

        • chismosa™ says:

          I’m “new” so I can’t say much. Just wondering what this means for the future of the Dicks in BH

          Maybe Kyle was primarily friends with Lisa. So – like Teresa in NJ going against Caroline- when Caroline’s sister is who truly was friends with Teresa?

          Maybe Lisa just tolerates/tolerated Kim. Kyle was her real friend?
          Don’t know much 👐

          • T-Rex says:

            Lisa is friends with Kathy Hilton, the BitchardSisters Older HALF-sister, and the one with all the money. She was “friendly” with the BitchardSisters because they are related to her Friend. Lisa was actually very friendly with VileKyle Season 1 it was when VileKyle decided to team up with the HOOFMALOOF for the first stab at a takedown that Lisa decided that they are now “friends for the cameras only”. It stemmed from the SPINOFF that LisaV got that VileKyle thought she was getting, and it pissed her off as she thought that LisaV went behind her back to get the SpinOff, which she didn’t. But the crybaby idiot VileKyle is, she blamed it on Lisa and not on the fact that no one wants to watch a show about Murray and his father running a real estate company, and more of their family life. Uhm, we already have two of those on Bravo who would think they would want another one. OH, and I don’t think we need to watch Murray try to pickup more women in bars under the pretense he is going to sell girls in 25 shoes million dollar mansions. BTW, once again will point out these are the folks that went to the tabloids about Murray cheating not LisaV

          • VV™ says:

            Kim S1 always expressed these (HWs) were Kyle’s friends.

        • He was nice to her when they were walking around Paris and that is the only interaction I can remember that was just the 3 of them.

      • ladebra says:

        Oh snap 😛

      • PJ says:

        The Pink Queen has spoken all must obey.

    • Orson says:

      She’s so screwed up and looking for a fight (good manipulation there, Kyle) that she’d take offense if Ken or Lisa said something like, “It’s kind of cool today, Kim. Maybe you should bring a sweater along.”

  80. Cartwheels says:

    I am not surprised that Brandi made the best seller lists her first week. Given the wild success of her first book it was expected that bookstores would request a good amount of her books with the expectation of selling them , whether they do or not is a different situation.
    Now the real test of her new book popularity is to count how many weeks does she stay on the list , if she doesn’t stay too long then her next book will probably happen but her advance will not be as much as this one.

    • chismosa™ says:

      Depends on the return policy. Many stores are non-returnable accounts.
      Or some may actually return if sales are not good.

      Not sure of how this affects the NYT seller list, though I should know this. 😳woopsie

  81. chismosa™ says:

    Ashy ^^^ I’m averting my eyes 👀 bc I haven’t watched yet but I’m glad to see scary island may have made the list. I hope they didn’t EDIT DOWN KooKoo’s scenes. I’m sure they didn’t show the extent of it. But 👏👏kadooz for at least having it on.

  82. I finally caught up with reading today’s blog. Great Job everyone. Great to see you Quincy.
    I don’t think I have an opinion anymore…..after watching the preview for next week, I got stuck on the “beach scene” and all I could think was “SERIOUSLY, THIS is what this season is about?? BOO HOO!! It sounded like jr. high school…… I don’t know if I am more amazed at them for being so petty or me for watching this stupidity. I use to love these HW shows, 😦

  83. VV™ says:

    Kim’s Blog
    March 26, 2013

    “But I have to say my favorite part was something you didn’t see. When I was getting ready to leave, Lisa asked me to stay and she and Pandora sat at the piano together. Wow can Lisa sing or what!?! The two of them so happy singing with Ken walking around holding a stack of towels admiring his beautiful girls! I could see how PROUD he felt. That was a beautiful sight and my favorite part of the evening!”

    By the way, the cameras were not rolling….

    • VV™ says:

      Most comments from Kim about Lisa on her blogs are positive since S1. It was this season when she started criticizing Lisa. Her last blog last season was written in April. What happened between April and the start of filming S4! I don’t know sounds fishy, particularly because we are taking 2 weeks away….

    • California35 says:

      I had skiped the date…i was wondering the posive change on Kim. Duh! This was last year.

  84. California35 says:

    Yay! I made it to top ten Vacations. Late, but made it…i wont have to waiy until tomorrow 🙂

  85. Mene Seela says:

    Any news about a memorial for Nancy?

  86. VV™ says:

    This is Brandi’s hair/makeup guy.

    • chismosa™ says:

      This is just too easy – Brandi is really searching for scraps (or whatever the expression is )

      And her hair guy shouldn’t advertise that he does her hair. I guess he doesn’t want new clients?

  87. VV™ says:

    • PJ says:

      I guess people must love trash. No other explanation. I would not want to be Queen with my name associated with that show.

      • ladebra says:

        Just walk on by! Cause I know people who love to watch and laugh. Find it entertaining even.

        • chismosa™ says:

          LA – I’ve been behind on the blogs but remember you were seeing your sister – hope you had a great time.

          And whatever procedure – hope things are well 🙂

          • ladebra says:

            Thank you! We had a great time doing nothing lol. Both of us were ready to tuck in, take walks and naps, do lots of talking and catching up, just relax together and rest up. She left yesterday, is safely back in Orlando, and we are planning next year’s visit. We are thinking a train trip up the coast on the Coast Starlight Express – sleeper car, observation deck, dining car! Anyway, lots of time to plan 😉

            • chismosa™ says:

              That sounds so beautiful. I love trains. Soothing and you see the scenery so beautifully.

              And you make having a sister sound so wonderful…. Always wished I had one 😦

              Glad you had a great time. 👭

  88. iceNfire says:

  89. LaineyLainey says:

    Hey there, I’m going to bed now, but I wanted to tell you I have heard nothing about the memorial. Sorry. 😕
    You are all so funny…
    one of my favorite comments yesterday was from the hilarious ” times were so hard in Holland” thread….the one about shoes were so expensive we had to carve our own out of wood… Funny.

    Today, the sweet brown quote ” hide your children, hide your wives…” That tickled me.

    Nighty nite!

  90. BB says:

    Good morning. The Olympic Women’s freeskate starts today at 10 AM in case anyone wants to watch live. The top ladies skate times are as follows:
    Here are start times (ET) for notable skaters Thursday: Mao Asada — 11:41 a.m. Polina Edmunds — 12:42 p.m. Yuliya Lipnitskaya — 1:06 p.m. Carolina Kostner — 1:14 p.m. Adelina Sotnikova — 1:22 p.m. Gracie Gold — 1:30 p.m. Ashley Wagner — 1:38 p.m. Yuna Kim — 1:46 p.m. – See more at:

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