Real Housewives of Orange County – Dancing With The Stars

 Real Housewives Of Orange County

S9E4 “Pretty Ugly”

by Stars99

Shannon Beador, Heather Dubrow, Vicki Gunvalson, Tamra Judge & Lizzie Rovsek

Shannon Beador, Heather Dubrow, Vicki Gunvalson, Tamra Judge & Lizzie Rovsek

Remember last week we finished up the never ending dinner at Over-Sharing Shannon’s majestic and opulent but down-to-earth house with the $240,000 chandelier and indoor basketball court… For the millionth time, Briana told Vicki that she doesn’t like Brooks while Vicki told her tough noogies, she’s dating him anyway (and the world in unison experienced an involuntary shudder)… Tamra told Her Royal Heatherness that she treats everyone else as mere peasants (duh)… And Heather tattled to Eddie about Tamra’s big “I want to have another baby” conversation and then Eddie promptly tattled to Tamra about Heather’s tattling.

Tonight’s episode begins at Over-Sharing Shannon and David’s house (because we haven’t already seen enough of their house). David tells Shannon to pack because he got a room at the St. Regis – Monarch Beach for the night (  His sister (Aunt Lori) is coming over and will stay with the kids.  Shannon is befuddled at what to pack for this huge jaunt – Because they’re going to be traveling for a whopping 10 minutes (at most) to the hotel. David suggests that she wear her shortest dress and that it be an easy on/easy off kind of dress. He then specifically suggests she wear her slinky red dress that shows off her boobs. Shannon decides she needs to pack her spanks. As they get into the car, David disgustedly says the car is a mess – and Shannon tells him she didn’t know they were going to go anywhere. This is so going to be fun… lol!

Vicki has moved her “Coto Insurance” offices to yet a different location in Rancho Santa Margarita.  Just a thought – If you’re going to name your insurance business after a small “planned community” of about 15,000 (Coto de Caza)….You might want to maintain your offices in said small “planned community,” no? For that matter, someone as visionary and business savvy as I think Vicki can be at times – It strikes me a little strange that she named her business, “Coto Insurance.” From a marketing perspective, the name alone may limit her success from the rest of the population of Orange County (3 million).  Just sayin’…

VickiAs we look around at her new offices – One cannot help notice that there is absolutely no one around at Coto Insurance… No one is stirring, not even a mouse! Oh, except Vicki – You can hear her tap, tap, tapping on her computer from a mile away it’s so quiet – Oh, I get it – It’s after hours. Vicki hates going home to a quiet, empty home which is her explanation for why she’s working such late hours. When she was married and her kids were still at home she STILL worked a lot – So I don’t know who Vicki thinks she’s fooling.  There’s a lot that can be said about Vicki – But she has always worked really hard.

Kelli (Vicki’s decorator) arrives and they begin picking out wallpaper. Vicki takes the wallpaper samples to the only other person still at work to ask her to pick out something for her office. Through this conversation it comes out that the receptionist’s area is too dark and actually makes the receptionist want to take a nap.  Missing the point completely, Vicki is horrified at this since according to Vicki – No one sleeps during work time!  In the lobby area they have one of those wall-mounted water fountains. I can see why the constant sound of water trickling would lull you into a sleepy-state of being – Especially after lunch if you’re not particularly busy. In addition, a very large lobby wall area is covered in dark leather wall tiles that evidently stink to some people. I mean, I guess it’s okay if you like the smell of rotting animal skin on your walls. (Just kidding, but not really)… The decorator is trying to get this entire space to feel more like a “Vicki kind of space” and a little less of an “office kind of space.” A second opinion confirms that the dark leather wall in the lobby resembles the brick walls of a prison. Vicki says, “FML” or for those of us who have no idea what she’s talking about, “Frick my Life.”

S and D bedMeanwhile, back at the hotel, comedian David tells the bellman that Shannon has a problem with her snoring and that’s why they have a snoring machine. This is not so funny to Shannon since of course it’s David who has the snoring issue. They order a couple of Bloody Mary’s… or, as they’re called at the St. Regis, “Agave Maria” (Get it – a play on “Ave Maria”). They get into their plush white robes, plop on the bed, attempt to drink their fancy, “Agave Maria” drinks through impressive barriers of celery and straws, and are immediately engulfed in the sounds of their own silence. I mean, if there were crickets within 50 miles of them – You would have heard them chirp. They have absolutely nothing to say to each other. Somewhere in the night Stars99 starts to softly sing, “Hello darkness my old friend… I’ve come to talk with you again…” (Simon & Garfunkel, “Sounds of Silence” – Wow, holy awkward, stilted conversation, Batman – These guys need to figure out how to talk and relate to each other.

We transition to the “Ugly Sweater Party” charity event that’s being held at this year’s “Friend of the Housewive’s” house – Danielle Gregorio.  It’s here that we officially meet Danielle – Who is billed as “Tamra’s friend” although we found out last week that Danielle had only met Tamra a few days earlier at Eddie and Tamra’s fitness studio.

Lizzie arriveWe also get to meet Lizzie Rovsek (who is billed as Danielle’s friend) as she arrives with her husband, Christian. Lizzie explains to Danielle that she couldn’t find a good ugly sweater to wear. However, she tells us that really, she just didn’t want to look frumpy or like a grandma so she wanted to wear one of her own sweaters and just pin ugly poinsettias all over it. With drink in hand, Lizzie attempts to move from one room to another but slips, falls, and spills her drink all over the floor.  Luckily, there’s a dog in a very ugly sweater that’s ready to lap up the spilled drink off of the floor. Poor dog, I’d want to be drunk too if my family made me wear a sweater like that in public – I mean the poor pooch is going to be humiliated at the dog park for years to come. This may just constitute a case of excessive cruelty to animals… I think the pooch should sue.

Fortunately for Lizzie, there’s hardly anyone at the party yet – So no one really saw it… Well, except the TV cameras, of course. As a bratty 8 year old would say, “Did you have a nice trip? See ya next fall!” Tripping is never a fun thing, especially in high heels but Lizzie handled it gracefully.  We learn that Lizzie is a pageant girl (insert gratuitous eye roll here) who has never fallen down before this – But thinks that 56% of all pageant queens have fallen down at one time or another.  Not sure why she picked “56%”… but okay…lol.  She is going to, “dust it off and keep going….” then in an almost southern-sounding fakey accent she says an exaggerated, “HiiiIIIIiiii.”  Okay, THAT’s gonna get old…

Tam ugly sweaterAs Tamra and Eddie arrive to the “Ugly Sweater Party” Tamra is afraid that this just may all be a big joke on them and that she and Eddie are going to be the only ones wearing ugly sweaters. Now THAT would have been AWESOME!  As Heather and Terry drive to the party, they’re just sure that Eddie will be wearing a sweater that’s way too tight on him so his muscles will bulge out. Yeah, that’s a safe bet.

And because Tamra is such a wonderful, salt of the earth, genuinely kind and good person – She tells us that she is “not into ugly” and that she doesn’t want to, “walk into a party of ugly looking people.” She’s such a nice girl, that Tamra, no? Heather T ugly sweaterEveryone meets everyone else and seems to be having a good time. Tamra and Lizzie find common ground for the moment in that Lizzie recently worked out at Tamra & Eddie’s fitness studio, lives in Ladera Ranch and has young children.  Heather and Terry show up in matching sweaters which is hysterical to me. I think it’s kind of funny but Tamra thinks it’s creepy. Of course she does.

LizzieHeather is talking to Lizzie and tells her that she’s trying hard not to stare at the poinsettias that are plastered on top of her tight-fitting sweater. Lizzie has enjoyed having big boobs since the 5th grade and she seems to like to wear things that accentuate her assets – Both of them. Pinning poinsettias on top of Lizzie’s Grand Tetons seems a little overkill to me – But on the plus side it has given people license to gawk.

Okay, now we get to the portion of our program that I was dreading all week – but fear not! It is very short and I will make this very brief so we all come out alive! Brooks and Vicki go out to dinner. Vicki tells Brooks that she recently met with Briana and that it didn’t go very well. Brooks asks how things were left after their conversation. Vicki tells him that Briana said that Brooks has never apologized to her. Of course we all know that’s simply not true because we have the footage to prove it – and sure enough, Bravo shows it. Yep, Brooks apologized to Briana on national TV. Brooks again acknowledges that what he said was inexcusable in any circumstance – Whether he was drunk or not. See that? He backhandedly and subtly reminded all of us that he was drunk when he said some really nasty things about what he thought Ryan should do to Briana.  I think Brooks should just close his mouth. Brooks says he would like the opportunity to talk to Briana but that you can’t force somebody to be ready for that. Vicki has been hiding her relationship with Brooks from most people in her life because she doesn’t want to hear any backlash from it. Brooks doesn’t want to spend time with Vicki’s friends – Which I take to mean that WE WON’T BE SEEING MUCH OF HIM THIS SEASON!  WOO HOOO!!!  Then Vicki launches into some vomit-worthy flattery of how Brooks is, “The” Ugh… just ugh… Oh, and, wrong century, Vicki!  Vicki declares she is going to date Brooks regardless of what anyone thinks. Sigh.

Shannon and David are at dinner. He sincerely tells her she looks great tonight. However, because this is Shannon, she manages to turn his compliment into a discussion wherein it’s clear to her that he wants her to have a boob job. Really? Just say, “Thank you” and move on. Shannon says she wants to spend more quality time with her husband, but it seems like every time he says something nice to her she’s quick to find fault with it. Who wants to spend time with that? David admits to liking boobs. Color me, oh, so surprised. This is obviously part of an ongoing conversation they’ve been having.  Shannon doesn’t want to get a boob job because she’s worried about the message it would send to her kids. Plus, I highly doubt they make organic, biodegradable silicon…lol …By the way, because I don’t have anything better to do at 1:58 AM, I searched, “organic silicone breast implants”… and surprise, surprise, they do have them.  I still doubt they’re biodegradable, though. Lol.

Unfortunately, David then mistakenly tells Shannon that he just wants her, “to firm them up a little bit.” Right, cuz that’s what EVERY woman wants to hear. He hastily attempts to clarify that it’s from breast feeding 3 kids, etc. Shannon told him she get the implants right after he gets a penile implant. David quickly says his procedure is already scheduled.

wineDavid tells Shannon that he doesn’t wish ill will for their relationship. He asks to hold her hand – and I’m telling you – It was like a struggle for these two to sit there, hold hands, and have a meaningful dialog. Shannon tells him that sometimes it doesn’t feel like he makes her a priority.  She doesn’t want to feel like him spending time with her is a chore. He reassures her and tells her that she is an amazingly fun person – and it’s why he married her. Shannon tells us she doesn’t think David gives her enough attention but that he’s committed to working on it.

Shannon on bedWhen they return to their hotel room after dinner – David had arranged for there to be a heart made from rose petals on their bed. Shannon believes that “true romance” is when you’re in tune with your partner. Before they even begin to make-out on the bed, Shannon says that she wishes she was, “drunker.”  Much to David’s chagrin, Shannon takes a swig of something right out of the bottle.  As they awkwardly lie on the bed and start to kiss, we viewers collectively yell at Production to, “End Scene!”

Back at the “Ugly Sweater Party,” Danielle, Lizzie, Tamra and Heather are all standing around talking. They commiserate about how uncomfortably advanced and adult-like their daughters seem to be. They start sharing notes about how their daughters are talking to them about “butt rolls” and “stripper poles.” Tamra tells us her daughter’s favorite word is, “hoochie mama.” Actually Tamra, that’s 2 words, but who’s counting? Heather then makes the mistake of using more than a 2 syllable word in front of Tamra when she uses the word, “amalgam.” After providing the definition in a couple of different ways, Tamra asked Heather to use it in a sentence. Heather reminds Tamra that she just had used it in a sentence.  Everyone agrees it’s a big word. In her talking head, new girl Lizzie does her best Spelling Bee contestant imitation and provides us with a clear definition. Oh, this is so not going to go over well with our little Tamra.  Heather wants to just move on so she’s not berated for using such a hoity-toity word.

Danielle and HeatherDanielle announces the winners of the, “Ugly Sweater Contest.” A very pregnant woman whose half sweater had several bells hanging from ribbons over her bare pregnant belly won first place. Terry and Heather won for “Couple with the Ugliest Sweaters.” Okay, okay… truth be told – I didn’t think their sweaters were all that bad until you look at the very bottom of them. Two of these sweaters in one room is a bit much – but not horribly bad, considering. However, in her talking head, Tamra snottily says, “I think that Heather and Terry’s sweaters are an amalgam of ugly and uglier.” Should I take this time to point out that “ugly” and “uglier” are not actually two different things – but merely a gradation of the same thing and therefore not really an “amalgam?” Oops, I used a 3 syllable word – Tamra will never understand the explanation of it. As Heather accepts her “Couple with the Ugliest Sweater” award she says she has never been so happy about being ugly.

Heather T ugly sweater2Lizzie and Christian have been married for 4 years. They originally met at a bar in San Diego when they were each out with friends. They dated for a year and then they broke-up. They didn’t see or talk to each other for the next 4 years. Christian then called Lizzie out of the blue and asked her to come and see him and his friends. Lizzie and Christian have been together ever since. They have 2 sons, Preston who is 3 years old and Kingston who is almost 2.

Lizzie husbandLizzie owns a swimwear company called, “Sun Kitten Swimwear.” She conducts a photo shoot at her family’s beach house.  We learn that Lizzie was born in Orange County but when she was 9 they moved to a horse farm in Kentucky in a very small town. She always wanted to be an actor but her parents wanted her to get a degree. Her dad was a Harvard/Yale physicist. She got a fashion design and merchandising degree. Lizzie boasts about being the valedictorian for her high school graduation class. Up until this point of time, I think that Lizzie is going to be in the photo shoot – but no, Mabelynn Capeluj, Miss California USA 2013 is the model of the day.  Lizzie tells us that she doesn’t want to be the model because she wants to focus on her swimsuits and how they look.

lizzie2Tamra and Eddie go out to dinner together. Evidently, they don’t much quality time together. Tamra notices that Eddie isn’t wearing his wedding ring. He lamely tries to explain why he’s not wearing it. Tamra picks up a knife and pretends that she is going to carve her name onto his finger. Then, as if it had ANYTHING to do with why he’s not wearing his wedding ring, he brings up the fact that Tamra had Simon’s name tattooed on her ring finger at one point of time.  That was just silly for him to bring it up at this point. I mean I get it – that she kind of started it with the whole knife thing… but he’s got to know that must flip her fig.

Tamra initiates the conversation that we ALL knew this whole dinner was going to center around – She brings up the topic of having children.  Tamra asks Eddie if he is going to be okay with not having any children of his own.  Eddie thinks he will be okay with it.  Tamra tells him, “What if I wanted to have another child – Would you be okay with that?” Eddie responds, “Probably… Do you really want to have a baby? Let’s figure it out – What I’m not okay with is having to raise the child – I don’t have time for that.”  <Pause> Okay wait… Did we just hear a guy be honest that he doesn’t have time or even the interest to raise a child? That he would be okay to go ahead with having one to make his wife happy – if he didn’t have to do much? I’m so conflicted on this… Up to this point, he’s only had to deal with kids 50% of the time – All day/every day is a whole nuther Oprah. I’ve got to give him this – He seems like he’s being totally honest with Tamra about his feelings.

Tamra asks, “Who is going to raise it?” Eddie is pretty clear that he expects Tamra to do most of the work, which is what she says that women do anyway. Tamra thinks that Eddie is afraid of being a dad because his parents weren’t in his life.  Eddie tells her that he has, “to work” and Tamra agrees that men work. I wonder if Tamra is angling not to work anymore outside of the home… Hmmm…  Eddie says he doesn’t do well with babies. Tamra realizes that this conversation clearly makes Eddie nervous. Babies/kids are a lifetime commitment. Tamra says she wants her own baby that she doesn’t have to share. It looks like she  won’t even have to share the kid with Eddie from the sound of things. She wants a child that, “Simon’s not going take away from me.” Eddie says that all he knows is how to work – That he doesn’t know how to raise kids. I bet Eddie knows nuthin’ ‘bout birthin’ babies, either! (Obscure, “Gone with the Wind” reference in honor of my beloved Mom who just loved that movie – I miss you Mom!).

Next week’s previews had a BIG “I Kid You Not” moment for Vicki that I’m not going to spoil because I need to use it for next week.  Holy crap on a cracker!  But in addition, we see Lizzie tell Vicki that she’s not nice… We also see some haggling over the seating arrangements at a restaurant… I’m rubbing my hands in gleeful snarky anticipation!

Happy trails!



Dancing with the Stars S18E8

by BB

Last week’s scores:

Meryl:  78
Amy:    75
Charlie:  71
Candace:  74
Danica:  72
James:  70

There are rumors floating around the net that the “fix” is in for Maks and Meryl to be the champions this season, no matter what happens.  There are always these types of conspiracy theories out there whenever there are competitions of this sort.  I remember reading about American Idol voting irregularities and I’m sure there have been other accusations associated with other competition shows.  All I can say is, with the exception of maybe Candace, I think the best dancers are still in the competition.

The guest judge was Abby (Crabby) Lee Miller.  So far, all of the guest judges have voted in line (or higher) with the regular judges.  That ended this week with Crabby.  The kids from Dance Moms were in the audience.

Phase One was the individual dance.

Charlie and Sharna were declared safe and danced first.  They danced the Quick Step.  Charlie and Sharna were frustrated because they didn’t think they got the scores they deserved last week.  I agree with them.  Although I haven’t been impressed by Charlie overall, I thought they danced well last week, just as they did this week.  Crabby is critical of Charlie and Bruno corrects her on her criticism.  She won’t shut up and Tom tells her it’s only a two hour show and she has to move along.  Score:  40 (all 10’s)  Crabby should stop the criticisms if she’s going to give out a 10.

Meryl and Maks were safe.  Danica and Val were in jeopardy and danced second.  They danced the Tango.  I don’t know about the technicalities of the dance, but I enjoyed watching it.  Score:  38

Meryl and Maks danced the Rhumba.  The audience loved it.  Bruno loved it and gave them a 10.  Carrie Ann and Len thought it maybe was not enough Rhumba and gave them 9s.  Abby was critical of Meryl’s foot positions and Maks said he didn’t care about anything Crabby had to say.  The audience booed when Crabby gave them the lowest score of 8.  Score:  36

Amy and Derek were safe.  James and Peta were in jeopardy.

Candace and Mark were in jeopardy.  They danced the Fox Trot.  Carrie Ann thought Candace was back on track.  Len thought it was joyful to watch.  Abby liked it but would have choreographed it differently.  Bruno told Candace to watch her line extensions.  Score:  36

James and Peta danced the Viennese Waltz.  Posture was important in this dance.  I thought the dance was lovely.  The judges thought so too with the exception of James’ posture.  Score:  36

Amy and Derek danced the Argentine Tango.  Perfection.  Score:  40

Phase two was the Celebrity Dance Duel (side by side comparisons).  Meryl and Maks/Danica and Val were up first and danced the Samba.  The ladies were slightly out of sync when dancing without the guys and the judges called them on it.  Score:  34

Charlie and Sharna/Candace and Mark did a contemporary dance routine.  I thought they did a better job of it but it may have been easier since it was a guy and a girl combination.  Candace and Charlie did a good job.  The judges noticed that Sharna messed up on one of the lifts.  Score:  38

Last up were Amy/Derek and James/Peta who danced the Jive.  Amy was worried she was holding the others back by having limited choreography.  She needn’t have worried.  She and James danced great together and they all did very well as a group.  The best of the three in my opinion.  Score:  39

Elimination time:  Danica, Candace or James.  This week it was Danica who went home.  As much as I like Candace, she probably should have been the one eliminated.  Maybe there are more Full House fans than Wonder Year fans out there.

This week’s scores:
Amy:  40 + 39 = 79
Charlie:  40 + 38 = 78
James:  36 + 39 = 75
Candace:  36 + 38 = 74
Danica:  38 + 34 = 72 (Eliminated)
Meryl:  36 + 34 = 70

Next Week, the Semi-Finals.


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179 Responses to Real Housewives of Orange County – Dancing With The Stars

  1. Powell says:

    Good morning everyone. It’s hump day eve. 🙂

    YES Jack is back!! 24: Live Another Day was very good. LOL MTH was so right. Gov’t running amuck w/their heads up their asses. I won’t spoil it. Yes Lainey you and MTH have quite a few seasons to catch up on. And this last call I believe it’s what it is will only have 12 epis. 🙂

    I didn’t see DWTS but GMA showed what Maks said about Abby and also showed Abby saying what Maks said was “kind of tart”. HA!! She’s got some nerve. I don’t watch Dance Moms but the few seconds I have caught while changing channels, she’s yelling at little girls and their mom’s like they are less than nothing. She’s screaming like a banchee.

    • plainviewsue says:

      My heart was pumping when I heard the music!!!!! I thought it was excellent. So great to see Jack & Chloe together again!!!!

      RHOC will now be watched Tuesday mornings. I tried watching after 24, but I couldn’t concentrate.

      I actually enjoyed the episode for the most part. I thought the ugly sweater party was fun.

      Love the new gal Lizzie. This is what HW’s should show. Beautiful homes; beautiful beach houses.

      I like Shannon, but hate watching her with her husband.

      • Powell says:

        24 was so good. And Benjamin Bratt, William Devane. Glad they joined. I love WDs white hair. It looks good on him.

        • mrs peabody says:

          maybe I’ll watch as I love William Devane, fell in love with him on Knott’s Landing

          • Sus says:

            Oh, wouldn’t it be wonderful to be back in the cul de sac. What a blast we would have discussing Gary and Val, Abby Ewing and the whole gang.

            I loved Greg Sumner (William Devane). Especially when he got together with Paige.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      It’s great everyone is so excited about “24” being back… Although Mr. Stars99 thinks it should be now be called, “12” because there aren’t 24 episodes this season… lol…

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Hi! I’m home!!! Grabbed a beer, watching Wendy Williams and here I am! My gol durn dvr did not tape 24. Argh!!! Hope everyone had a great day. I was busy, busy, busy at work today. It’s nice to be home. Wendy cracks me up, she’s talking about kimye at the Met Ball and said they left their best accessory at home I.e. They left their smiles at home. The pic that is circulating makes them look not too happy. She liked SJP. She looked awesome, I have to say.

  2. Powell says:

    So Stars when is your Fairytale novel coming out? I just love the way you are blogging OC. “Remember last week we finished up the never ending dinner”. I love it. You’re transporting us to the OC. Ugh. Parish the thought. 😉

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      lol Powelly-Pooh… “Once upon a time, in a land far, far away behind an Orange Curtain, there lived 5 narcissistic pains in the neck who pretended they were housewives for the sake of the making of a reality TV show…” lol

  3. Powell says:

    Yes Vicki has always worked really hard at the detriment to her marriage and kids but hey. She got a gazillion carat diamond necklace for her divorce gift to herself and her kids don’t want to live w/in a square mile of her.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      OMG… Did you SEE that necklace last week? Yikes! I think Vicki has some significant issues… She’s trying to fill up her “love tank” in all the wrong ways, I think… No amount of diamonds, disingenuous love platitudes from a greasy used car salesman (no offence to used car salespeople), or amount of work will ever really satisfy her. It’s like she’s missed the point completely…

      • Powell says:

        You’re right. This seems to go back to her childhood. Remember the season she took her mom and Brianna to Italy? Her mom was on a few epis. One epi she kept saying to her mom “tell me you love me”. Something is not right w/her need for constant affirmations of love and affection. I mean if you’re alright w/yourself and you know you’re loved by your family you shouldn’t need for choosing to have someone even when you know it’s the wrong person to tell you/show you that.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          I would get really annoyed if someone did that to me. Tell me you love me. No. I won’t. I’m. Or sure I do, anymore.

    • Sus says:

      I wonder if she has to work all the time because she doesn’t manage her time wisely.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Well…when you put it that way…. LOL

  4. not THAT Jill says:

    Great blog Starzy!!
    Heather and Terry had the best ugly sweaters!! I love an ugly sweater party-Tamra is just miserable!! She is never happy-I’m over her and her fake baby story line!
    Shannon is a lot of work! She wants her husband to BE someone else-it seems like she doesn’t like him at all? She’s weird!
    Vicky’s hair is troublesome again this season…why can’t the woman get a good stylist????

    • THIS SO BOTHERS ME! How can you not do the back of your hair??? Doesn’t she have a mirror in her mansion? She has money, get a person to come over and do your hair BEFORE you leave the house EVERY DAY! It will be money well spent, and you can deduct the cost as a job expense!

      • not THAT Jill says:

        It drives me crazy-these woman know they are going to be on TV and they show up with their hair a mess-janky ass extensions that can be spotted a mile away and hair that hasn’t seen a brush in years!! Get it together ladies!! BRUSH THAT HAIR!!

      • Powell says:

        That’s a good idea. 🙂

    • Powell says:

      Tamra is supposed to be so happy. She’s miserable. She’s making others miserable. Shannon and David are kinda sad. Vicki is having hair problems again? You would thought she learned from last season.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      Yeah, like I said… I really didn’t think Heather and Terry’s sweaters were all that bad… And I LOVE an ugly sweater party… how fun! What’s not to love about it? Shannon does seem to be a lot of work – I haven’t really figured it out yet. I like her for the most part – but her criticism and negativity sends me over the edge. Their night away was so awkward… I can’t tell if it’s because cameras were there – or if they really are just that danged awkward with each other.

      • Powell says:

        I like Shannon too but her Debbie Downer attitude seems to negate her so called “positive energy, holistic lifestyle”. She sucks all the positive energy out of a room when she’s like that.

      • Sus says:

        I wonder if producers make each couple have the sex scene. You all would rip me and Mr Sus apart and we would deserve it! I’m embarrassed just thinking about it.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Maybe he’s sensitive to criticism and she has made him feel like nothing he does will make her happy anyway. Men are so easy…sorry guys,….good guys are anyway. A little praise and affection goes a long way.

  5. Powell says:

    The Ugly Sweater Party. I was watching Shark Tank Behind the Sharks or whatever the title is on Friday and they were showing some of their most successful biz owners that the Sharks invested in and one is a guy that started the Ugly Sweater Company. I had not heard of the company. Very interesting biz.

  6. Powell says:

    Ok. I’ve heard that before. Who and on what reality tv show said they don’t like ugly people? It’s a lady but I can’t remember who.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      I’m scrunching up my face trying to remember… Didn’t Brandy say something about not liking ugly people? Or perhaps I’m just trying to blame it on her…lol

  7. Lizzie bears a strong resemblance to Taylor…her GIANT mouth really reminds me of her. Fortunately, it would seem that Lizzie’s brain might be as big as her mouth so I am pleased with her so far.

  8. Jules says:

    I cut off cable April 13 and only missed HBO’s GOTs and a little NY housewives. TWC sent a letter to the “new resident” that would turn on until end of month just plug into tv. (They refused to believe that I would just drop cable and still live there so the guy must have put in my address file that I was moving) WOW watched AT and OC and really not missing them. Did enjoy lost of Southern Charm. What a happy bunch. And yes that is how we are down here in SC. Drinks after noon.

    Southern Charm was good because like the first OC they are true friends and really don’t want to hurt one another. If it comes back you just know the producers will add fake friends and make up a story line for each person at the beginning of filming.

    DO miss chatting about the shows with Y’all. Perhaps I can get it together tonight for NY and join chat time.

    • Powell says:

      SC is the best show on Bravo right now. I still love MDL and The People’s Couch too.

    • chismosa™ says:

      Jules I wonder about that with SC because, unlike the stank a$$ Housewives, Andy is not an exec producer.
      I don’t know if they’d let more $hit be shown.

  9. Powell says:

    Well color me surprised Stars. Organic Silicone breast implants. Who knew? 🙂

  10. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Home from Terrible Tuesday workout! I give Shannon and David marriage 6 months. Liking Terry and Heather. I thought their sweaters were cute. Personally I think Brianna is miserable.

    • not THAT Jill says:

      I agree AZ-Brianna is miserable…and pretty rude too!

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      Yeah, Brianna is miserable – and wait until she moves. Yikes!

    • Powell says:

      Shannon should not have ever agreed to this. Their marriage is too shaky to be on reality tv. I know they don’t have internet but hasn’t she seen these shows before?

      • mrs peabody says:

        she’s a very high maintenance woman for sure.

        • MM in OC says:

          she’s terribly bored and has nothing to do but ponder the state of her marriage. Get a hobby!!

          I speak with some experience here as my mom had nothing to do outside of her family and children. No friends other than a couple of older neighbors. Once my dad started to abandon the family, mom took a turn for the worse and became very depressed. Then ended up with breast cancer and died a few years later. It’s a tragic story but it makes me fearful of relying on a man for company, friendships, or financial well-being.

    • mrs peabody says:

      I wonder if she was really talking about the man she is married to when she was telling her mom she’s seen her in 2 abusive relationships now. Maybe she’s the one who’s in the abusive relationship and she’s projecting her life onto her mom. Is that the right word?

    • Sus says:

      Yuppers! I agree about Brianna. I think Brianna has been miserable since what’s his face broke up with her and got married to someone else and had a baby. She eloped shortly after Colby’s baby was born.

      She’s lucky that Vicki will let her move home when/if her marriage implodes.

      I agree with Jill below about the rudeness. Makes her so ugly.

  11. Powell says:

    Stars that was a nice remembrance to your mom. 🙂 I’m kinda confused w/this Eddie and Tamra wanting/not wanting/kinda want but will not raise baby acting scene. When they were dating Eddie said he wanted kids and Tamra was saying she was too old. But I understand after living w/kids Eddie’s mind has become clear, the blinders are now off about raising kids. But it seems like he’ll go along w/it as long as he’s not raising the child and Tamra only wants a child so that she can be a mom 100% of the time. But let’s face it. Tamra doesn’t have a stellar track record in marriage so if she and Eddie have a child there’s no guarantee their marriage will be everlasting and there’s no guarantee that she wouldn’t again be a 50% of the time mom. And we’ve seen bits of her relationship w/her daughter crumbling on social media. So is Tamra in a good place in her life to be a new mom? With what is going on w/her daughter could Tamra and Eddie even adopt or get an agency to help her get a surrogate?

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      Gosh Powell, I’m honestly so torn and conflicted on the whole “Tamra and the baby” thang… For me… I think I would feel better about it if they adopted because they would be giving a child a home who didn’t have one… Although the home IS with Tamra – but I’m sure she really loves her kids and probably has the propensity to love more kids. But Tamra’s also complaining this season that they work a zillion hours on their new business, too… Sigh… Her motive for having another baby is wonky, too… at least it is to me… but I guess many women decide to have kids for wonky reasons, no? It doesn’t make it right… but then again who am I to judge her on this? Sigh… like I said… I’m really conflicted on this…

      • Powell says:

        I’m sure she loves her kids too but IMO Tamra got married for the wrong reasons and she’d be having a baby for the wrong reasons. Tamra’s life would be a lot better if she had decided to work on herself and her kids instead of finding a man to jump right into a relationship with in the first place.

        • mrs peabody says:

          I have to agree with you on this. Seems to me having a baby because your other kids are gone 50% of the time is not the reason to have one. She should work on fixing her relationship with the ones she has before taking on anymore. She truly needs to rethink this before doing anything. I feel unless Eddie is really pushing her to have one (and I don’t think he is) and is willing to help with the baby equally her baby days should be over. She’s had the baby experience and unless he’s into it fully and wants it it’s time to call baby time over.

      • kit9 says:

        She just wants somethin’ to cuddle. lol. I actually call BS on the whole thing. Last year, Tamra didn’t want more kids at all when she was with Eddie. Now it’s baby fever? Please. It’s the oldest most tired storyline in the HW playbook and Tamra doesn’t have an imagination. So, it’s baby time! Please. I’d sooner buy the infamous friendship bracelet exchange.

        • Barb (Just wondering in Jersey) says:

          Why doesn’t she just adopt a dog or cat for Pete’s sake?

          • Powell says:

            Eddie is to much of a clean freak for a dog. Remember last season when the kids books and stuff were in the family room? He had a fit at the “mess”.

        • MM in OC says:

          I don’t believe this storyline at all. Look how many housewives have had this recycled “I want a baby” story??? And it’s always the older ladies that really shouldn’t be even attempting to have a kid (sorry, but we all know that there are more risks after the age of 35).

          With that being said, if she really does want to have kids it’s to feed her own narcissism. She wants small little kids that don’t have opinions and don’t talk back. Babies that need and love her unconditionally.

          Both are pathetic and embarrassing for her and her existing children. Even that D-bag Ryan.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      Run, Eddie, run!

  12. I Need A Life! says:

    I never watched Dance Moms, but I have to say I loved Abby and I don’t think her comments were out of line. Max was rude. When you can’t come up with something clever, you say, “I don’t care…”

    • MelTheHound says:

      If you’ve never watched the show then you have never seen that albatross with the kids. I don’t watch DWTS so I didn’t see her there though..

      • Powell says:

        If she’s hired for DWTS I won’t watch it. She may be teaching those girls how to dance but she’s sure not teaching them how to be good and kind people. I will not be surprised if someday we hear that one of those girls is a bully as a girl or as an adult.

        • LaineyLainey says:

          So far, those kids seem really nice, pooh! But one just never knows how any kid will turn out. I know some folks who seem so nice and their kids can be little demons. Abby has some influence over them, but their parents and their genes have more influence.

      • MelTheHound says:

        Well I see that I should look up some words before I use them… albatross just sounded like it might be a fitting description for that troll so I used it.. Apologies to the albatross birds 😉

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I agree Maks was totally rude. Meryl, too! Abby Lee was there to judge them, not compliment them. Meryl’s feet were not, and have never been pointed, finally someone said something about it. Go away Olympians! Go do something Olympic-ish. Now that Nene is gone, I need to vote for someone else…Amy? Candace? James? Not the Olympians!

  13. MelTheHound says:

    I remember reading about American Idol voting irregularities and I’m sure there have been other accusations associated with other competition shows.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don’t know the genesis of the site but it’s still there. Haven’t watched this season of Idol but Last season, there was one, Truly the worse, had a stutter (but could overcome it while singing which is why he was there) who continuously got enough ‘votes’ to continue on, at the expense of people who actually had talent.. Normally, I wouldn’t care but that stuttering f*ck couldn’t even remember the words to the songs. I know this isn’t quite what you’re talking about but there are a lot of ways the voting process is queered and I do think the judges and production on these shows do push for one over the other.

    • Powell says:

      Oh yes I think the producers and judges push for certain contestants and get the winner they want.

    • AZGirl says: was the genius of Howard Stern. He questioned the voting on American Idol for years. Then like a miracle….the birth of Sanjaya. Howard had his audience vote for Sanjaya every week. Sanjaya was terrible. AI had no choice to move him forward until they supposedly said he was voted off close to the end. There was a disclaimer on the credits at the end of the show Sanjaya was voted off. I haven’t watch AI since. Love The Voice.

      • MelTheHound says:

        Ah.. Okay.. I remember Sanjaya but didn’t know that was Howard Stern’s dig at AI. I think on the Voice, people actually have to download songs from iTunes to vote, a pay as you go process.. Or at least that’s one way to vote..

      • LaineyLainey says:

        Oh,how funny, I had no idea Howard stern started that, …so funny.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      I remember that website. Vote for the worst. Or is it worse. Whatevs, I found it amusing. There always seems to be someone waiting to spoil the fun…or to point out the absurdity of these shows. I don’t watch idol but I do love the voice! And now DWTS.

  14. T-Rex says:

    Since I am not watching OldCronesOfBeverlyHillsAdjacent, just reading the blogs, did TrailerTrashTrampySue and EddietheCluelessWonder talk about WHO was going to pay for the Tubal ligation reversal?? Seriously, if EddieTheCLuelessWonder doesn’t even want to RAISE a child, is he going to pay for that reversal, which is NOT covered by insurance, some times takes more than one surgery and most times is not successful. Oh and let’s point out that TrailerTrashTrampySue did not have her children full-time when she was married to Simon, the Nanny’s had them full time, but TrailerTrashTrampySue only had them when it was CONVENIENT for her to have them. I would bet if you actually added up the time she ACTUALLY had them it was less than what she has them now.

    • Stars99 #TeamT-Rex... All Day, Every Day!! says:

      Giggles my favorite lil dinasaur… After analyzing and over-analyzing the subject, I scroll down to your comment and I have to laugh my head off. I honestly don’t remember if Tamra had nannies or not when she was married to Simon. However, in this case, I don’t think they’re going to have anything medically reversed… I think they’re considering adoption or hiring a surrogate.

    • LaineyLainey says:

      You are so funny.

  15. shamrockblonde says:

    thanks for the blogs!!! – 24 is back!!!!! oh. my. gosh!!! – sooo good – fastest two hours on tv – loved every minute of it! and YAY for William Devane and Benjamin Bratt – very yummy him – I loved William Devane way back when he was on Knots Landing!!!

    anyway – I think I am going to like Lizzie – as for Shannon – I am not liking her too much – the way she speaks to her husband is horrid – the guy seems like a nice guy and I have yet to hear him say anything that was mean or crude or uncaring – I still can’t get passed the fact that she let a dentist put crystals in her teeth – that she believes that will work – I get going green – I just don’t get the rest of it at all – I hope Lizzie brings some class to the OC, because while Heather may understand class and be better educated and clearly better spoken than the other ladies, her demonstrations of class are few and very far between – I don’t mind her though – cannot watch Tammy Sue –

    • iceNfire says:

      I have had crystals for years and years. I do believe they give me energy and an overall poistive ‘vibe’ …I also have my favorite rock And I had a favorite stick but I left it in San Francisco :/

      • Powell says:

        They aren’t helping Shannon though.

        • iceNfire says:

          b/c she isn’t using them. Crystals are to be used not just possessed. Shannon seems very scattered…she might try focusing with her crystals as an aid…
          *crystals are not magical, they are only a tool and tools need to be used in order to get anything accomplished

        • MelTheHound says:

          Every time I see a picture of her, she looks like Vickie to me..

      • Sus says:

        But do you let gunk build up in your belly button and so a Dr Moonbat can clean it out so you stop sneezing 🙂

    • Powell says:

      Shamrock are crystals supposed to be calming? HeckThey’re in her mouth but they aren’t working.

  16. shamrockblonde says:

    I hang crystals in my cube at work – I don’t put them in my teeth! much as I am absolutely terrified of going to the dentist, I do understand that root canal and fillings fix issues with your teeth, as do braces – but crystals? nooo – no – and Powell, there are crystals that are said to have calming properties, some that bring energy and others that give protection – the ones in my cube are set up in a feng shui way to block negative energy – I figure it can’t hurt – but putting them in my mouth? in my teeth? oh hell no –

    funny side note – I have huge binder on my desk that houses all of our procedures – the front of the binder, in huge bold letters says “BOOK OF SPELLS” – a nod to the tv show Charmed – loved that show – at any rate one night the building manager came to me and told me that the cleaning crew did not wish to clean my cube as they were afraid that if they moved anything and did not put it back or displace something, that I would put a spell on them….. I told him not to worry that I would put my garbage bin in the aisle and that I would clean my own cube – too funny…

  17. BB says:

    Today I’m grateful Just Jack took a more than 2 hour morning nap so Nana took a nap too!

  18. BB says:

    Today on GMA, Val also said something like Crabby Lee Miller was like a backstage prop or something similar to that. I don’t think the professional dancers on DWTS have much respect for her.

  19. cusi77 says:

    Thank you Starsy for the most funny OC Blog! Happy Trails, Girl!!!! Thank You BB in DWTS! I am so behind… When did Nene leave?

    Happy Tuesday Everyone!

  20. AZGirl says:

    I saw the picture of Kanye and Kimmie at the Met Gala. Can’t this guy ever smile? He such a douche.

    • MelTheHound says:

      He such a douche
      When is the last time you saw one smile?

    • mrs peabody says:

      I think he’s missing smile muscles in his face. They deserve each other, I feel sorry for that poor kid of their’s

      • mrs peabody says:

        forgot to add, I wish he’d close his mouth too.

        • chismosa™ says:

          I never understood where his jowls came from and them someone said on some blog that he had some situation with his mouth/teeth that made his face that way.

          I thought he always had those jowls.

          • Powell says:

            Well their baby is as cute as a button and has jowls just like him. He’s not a bad looking guy. He’s supposedly has everything he wants. Why isn’t he smiling? I don’t get it.

          • Chismosa, he was in a horrible plane crash almost died and had to have his jaw wired shut thats why he looks like that. Google the song he has “Through the Wire” its the song that made him famous. Really good song, old school Kanye.

            p.s. I emailed you 🙂

      • Orson says:

        But she certainly does give her duck lips muscles a workout.

    • Powell says:

      Yes AZGirl. Wendy Williams pointed out a few weeks ago that since they’ve been together any pics of them they don’t smile. Wendy showed pics of him w/Amber Rose when they dated. They were all smiles. Showed them laughing at events. She also showed pics of Kim w/Reggie Bush. All smiles. They have a baby. Are getting married. Have this huge home being built. Hell Kanye got Kim on the cover of Vogue. Yet they can’t smile. Wendy Williams was showing pics at the Met Ball. So many celebs that are supposed to be happy. So many of them not smiling. She was right when she said a lot of celebs leave their best accessory at home. Their smile. You should have seen SJP w/Andy as her date. She looked beautiful. Andy looked dapper in white tie and tails and they were all smiles.

  21. Great Blog Stars, I just don’t know about these people. I thought the ugly sweater was a great “Theme” for a party, I love themes!!!! Tamara is grumpy…..hmmmmm…maybe she is going thru menopause, lol!! Poor OSShannon….she is a wreck and he is dick so maybe they are perfect for each other. I can’t believe him and the boob job, OMG!! I have told my hubby since I met him and for years I would love to get that done and he always says, no, you are perfect the way you are….smart guy, my hubs…now I am so glad I never did…#smallandtall #flatiswhereitsat #ittybittytittycomitteefoundingmemeber

    I just got off the phone with Animal Control to report the German Shepard that attacked my Beanie Boo and dogs on Saturday. THEY ARE ALL GOOD!!! But the dog charged across the street and was trying to get them, she ran up a bank of ivy and the owner came over and got it…. My dogs are 10 pounds each!!! I thought she was going to have a nervous breakdown when she got home!!!! When she told me about it I remembered that the neighbor across the street had just told me that morning about that dog, it had bitten her son a few years ago……I meant to tell her….anyway… I went to the neighbor yesterday to find out if she had reported it and the dog had been quarantined for 10 days…. WHAT IDIOT leaves their dog OFF leash after something like that…..The AC guy said that they had had another report and that the file was still open and they were going to go over there!! Thank God that they are all ok….We will be taking them on walks together from now on and I am going to carry
    a 2 by 4….don’t think I won’t!!!

    • BB says:

      I’d carry a baseball bat (and not hesitate to use it if necessary).

    • chismosa™ says:

      Whoa PP how did I miss this? A GS attacked your doggies ?
      OMG – I hope you’re all ok?

      They’re one of the smartest breeds I’m sad to hear that. Plus last night I was crying(wuss) because they found a VET had smushed all these GS puppies and juveniles into too small crates & inhumane conditions at yes, his VETERINARY place.
      Then I heard his last name – Asian – and I can see he wouldn’t give 2 ßhits about mistreating animals.

      I’m sorry for you- please be careful and watch your pain – where you had been hurting recently …..


    • iceNfire says:

      Yep … Two years after the first bite that you know of and the dog is still off leash, that’s the way it always goes. Years ago a neighbor And her dogs behavavior were upsetting everyone one in our hood and it took reporting her elderly mother to Adult Services to get rid of them. We had all thought the old lady had died years before but she was locked away in a room. Good Luck PPindy! You need to be on defense b/c the dog’s owner doesnt care

      • Yes, the dog owner, we just met them last week when they were walking there dog and I thought for sure she was wasted drunk…but then I felt bad and thought maybe she had a stroke, but I am pretty sure she was drunkass…but the good news for me is that I don’t feel bad about reporting them at all!!! I hate having to deal with this kind of stuff but God forbid that some kid gets mauled and I didn’t have it on record….it just makes me mad cuz I know my dogs are crazy but I would NEVER let them out without a leash!! ESPECIALLY after what has happened, talk about being in denial. And I told the guy that they often walk him off leash….

    • MelTheHound says:

      THat’s a shame. Melvin’s predecessor bit twice. First time he was in his own yard and guy reached over the fence at him. He was on quarantine lockdown for 10 days after that because I didn’t have proof of vaccinations (Rabies) at the time though he had his shots. Second time he got out of the yard and chased someone down. City took the dog and I never saw him again. Also got sued over that one…

      • Yikes!! That is sad. I had a dog that “Can’t be tamed” and I had spent a lot of money on a professional but even he said that I couldn’t handle the dog. So I did give him to a rescue and they were able to place him cuz he was a purebred Weimaraner, (our 2nd, the 1st one was an angel but died from kidney failure at 3..still not over it), he found a great home…he went thru the window to get my gf, she was in the kitchen looking out the window….broke thru the screen…didn’t get her and she didn’t report it. And then also he went after a friend but the friend taunted him, but the last thing was the carpet cleaner came into the house and the dog went after him, he was protecting me and the baby….that one was my fault for not getting him into the garage in time….the guy walked back into the house and the dog pushed past me when I opened the garage door into the house, I couldn’t handle the dog…he weighed almost as much as I did…. I am just glad he found a good home but I did something about it, these people are obviously stupid and in denial….he needs to be on a leash!!

        • iceNfire says:

          One of our German Shepherd’s bit a kid that came into our yard. The kid looked to be between 10-12 years old and was bit in the knee. I offered to drive him home but he wouldn’t get in my car so I followed him. He lived in a section six housing unit right outside our neighborhood. that was filled with Samoan/Tongans … I was terrified but knew I had to face the parents before they came looking for me.
          There was a lot of yelling and screaming going on and everyone gathered to see what was going on. I explained what happened and then the father started yelling at the kid for being so far from home. I was so confused.. I offered to drive them to the hospital but they said they had a car. I learned that the kid was 5 years old and the next day was to be hos first day of kindergarten :/
          So the next day I went to check on the kid and took him some coloring books and crayons. The mother was so nice to me I started crying. The father told not not to worry b/c he understood it was a dog and a boy and on the Island kids often got attacked by wild bores …I felt terrible and relieved at the same time.

        • MelTheHound says:

          I could handle Charlie just fine. In fact if I was with him, he was a big ole sloppy teddy bear and people could do as they pleased with him. Alone however, he was in full time guard dog mode apparently and didn’t put up with any guff. The one that cost him his life and then sued me, I’m convinced to this day, teased him. None of that negates the fact that dog owners are one hundred percent responsible for what their dogs do..

        • Orson says:

          My friend’s dad had a dog that failed obedience school 3 times. Moses was just stupid. He was a golden lab. So after he chased someone down he’d jump up on them and lick their faces. He’d also escape their fenced yard and break into the neighbors’ house. So he could jump on and lick the faces of different people.

      • Powell says:

        Oh boy.

    • AZGirl says:

      OMG. I have Pepper on a leash with a leader/muzzle collar. I can’t predict what she is going to do. Basically all she has ever done is growl and nip at the heels of people walking by. But that collar really controls her.

    • Powell says:

      PrincessP that was scary for Beanie Boo & the dogs. Thks goodness they are alright. Yes you need to carry a 2by 4 or something to protect yourselves and the dogs. That’s crazy leaving the GS off of the leash.

  22. BB says:

    Some of the professionals already had opinions about Crabby Lee before she even came on the show (according to their twitter rants).

  23. chismosa™ says:

    Thank you SO much for the recaps — I think Maks and Val are both arrogant dou€hes and can’t IMAGINE being criticized or not being idolized or asked to take their shirts off. So if ALM comes to DWTS as WENDY FIRST ASKED last year …. I may start watching. I can’t take arrogant people, especially these showy men.
    Val has a chip bc he wants to eclipse his bro as the “hottest” dancer and Maks is bitter he never won and bc he’s not famous famous post-leaving the show. He thought he’d be the next julianne H.
    They all have to realize the STAR male dancer is DEREK. Known as the best choreographer to many outside the show!

    POWELL— > you asked above about I don’t like ugly people – I thought

    GG said “I don’t like ugly people and I don’t like Ants”
    It was lily? I really don’t think so….
    WWH was good with dr drew and Tamara. Too much overcompensating, very “”I love love LOVE Eddie !”- reminded me of the convict and the lawyer clinging to eachother on the reunion Atlanta show.
    I agree with you all this chick seems to have run for this guy for some escape and is not handling her real problems at home.
    I don’t watch OC but from what I gleam from recaps and WWH’s
    I’m burning mad that fashion police doesn’t have a special episode for the Met. This is BIGGER than the oscars. Ughhhhhhhh 😡😡😡
    S.charm, amazing as usual. Loved that ouijia board – I want it ! I only have the other kind. Used to do it all the time in junior high with my friends. (The ones not scared to)
    Jadore Shep always/ forever 😻😍😍😎
    He’s witty and nice on twitter and answers everyone!
    Planning my trip to charleston and HH to go after him. :LOL:

    TRav looked happy with baby momma but at the reunion they seemed off to me. So I don’t know what to think. I find him to be quite a sensitive guy deep down … I wish the best for him. He better get on with having a son! LOL
    I hope RED has good intentions.

    Did the SC people do blogs at bravo? I would venture into the site never visited if they did….

  24. Orson says:

    Unless Shannon and hubby decided they’d play these roles when they got on the program, it’s not going to turn out well for their marriage. If I cared enough, I’d look to see what sort of comments she’s getting on her blog or twitter. I reckon she’s starting out defensively and blaming editing. This is not a happy marriage being shown here.

    Sure, Tamra’s a great mom. Look how well her son Ryan turned out. The last thing she needs is a baby. She’d be better off with a kitten. I almost said puppy, but that would be a mean thing to do to a dog.. Cats, on the other hand, are pretty independent.

    I suppose there are needier people than Vicki, but I just can’t think of any. Remember, seasons ago when she was cutting Michael’s hair before he went off to college and she was asking him if he was going to miss her. She asked Brianna that several times too. And when she spouted off that 5 steps for love or whatever that was, I remember thinking “Okay, she read that crap in some magazine.” Seems to me she drives people away and then bewails the fact that they don’t love her.

    I thought amalgam was what dentists use to make fillings? It’s always struck me that Tamra has spent most of her life getting by on her looks. Certainly not her smarts. Which worked against her as a realtor, because wives decide which houses to buy, and they’d rather buy from a former playmate centerfold who looks past her prime than a hot blonde who’s flashing her cleavage at their husbands. She’s a mean girl. Rather than expend the effort to work hard to raise herself above others, she finds it easier to attack others. Meh, she’s not my problem. Neither are the rest of them.

    • iceNfire says:

      I have a feeling Shannon is being setup the same way Kelsey setup Camielle

    • Powell says:

      You’re right on all fronts Orson. Tamra’s not just a mean girl. She also plays victim very well.

      • Orson says:

        That’s her justification. Though I never quite understood how Alexis and Gretchen were victimizing her.

  25. Oh yeah with Tamra, talk about “The Dumb~ing Down of America” she is their Queen!!! I would love for someone to call me out for using a word they didn’t understand. Seriously, you are going to point out the fact that you are ignorant and be a victim??!!! It would be fun to “read” them with sentences comprised of words they didn’t know….they wouldn’t even know they were being “read”, lol!!


  26. Powell says:

    I’m sitting here kinda antsy. One of my aunts had a stroke. My other aunt called this morning that she was over her and my mom’s sister’s house and my aunt was acting confused, one of her arms and a leg not working properly. I told her to call 911. To call my cousin, My aunt’s daughter. My aunt said she was trying to calm her , whatever she was trying to do. My mom had gone to the hairdresser over an hour away & didn’t want to call her. I called my aunt back about an 45 minutes later, she said my aunt was sitting down, My cousin was on her way. My mom got home & I told her. She called my aunt & my cousin was speaking with the doctor. My mom went over to her sister’s house. Thks goodness we live less than 10 minutes away. The doc told my cousin to get her to the emergency room. They finally got her to the emergency room. My aunt called and my other aunt was admitted. I knew the symptoms were a stroke. I told my aunt twice to call 911. Hopefully it was mild. My mom said when she saw her sister she was still confused. My aunt told her this morning my other aunt spilled coffee on herself and couldn’t figure out how to use her spoon. This is my aunt whose husband died two yrs ago. She’s said she was ok and not depressed but I told my mom over a yr ago I thought she was depressed, mourning. Damn. I just hope she will be ok. My aunt that was w/her I was concerned about too. She had a stroke many yrs ago and has a bad heart. I kept asking her if she was ok. Sorry for rambling.

  27. Barb (Just wondering in Jersey) says:

    Sending you positive thoughts Powell. Hope all will be well.

  28. Jan (TexasTart) says:
  29. live stream for west coast, it may work…

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