Real Housewives of Beverly Hills by Namaste
Season 5 Episode 16
“I Am Horrified By The Way Kim Treats Kyle”
Lisa starts out by telling us how similar this episode is to placing ingredients in a blender, turning it on and realizing you forgot to put the lid on. She was relieved when Eileen and Lisa V. arrived in Amsterdam.
As soon as we sat down for dinner, you can see how aggressive and extremely discontent Kim Richards was sitting among us, waiting for the slightest thing to provoke her anger. She looked at whoever was speaking with disdain, just waiting to challenge them. Yolanda was a gracious hostess, though, and tried to make the best of what appeared to be a rocky beginning to the night. I, for one, found Yolanda’s suggestion that we each discuss something in our lives that has moved us deeply to be heartfelt and touching.
I guess I am a bit of a Negative Nellie. I think Yolanda started that conversation in order to stir up some shit. I believe she knew exactly what she was doing. I don’t think she realized it would go as bad as it did though.
As I spoke of my own sister dying at age 21 of a sleeping pill and alcohol overdose when I was six years old, I really allowed myself to become vulnerable among these women. I trusted each of them to let me tell my story and perhaps allow my words to be a bonding experience, so I took the opportunity to once again apologize to Kim for overstepping a boundary of hers. Had I known that sharing a story so deeply rooted inside of me would cause Kim to lash out at Eileen, Kyle, and myself, I would have never opened my mouth and allowed us to be left open to her uncontrollable anger and spiteful words.
I was actually very surprised by Lisa’s experience. This had to be devastating for her family. Addiction is an EVIL beast (not the same as kind of beast that Kim thinks Eileen is). Addiction destroys and changes everything in its path.
The insults she continued to hurl at Eileen were terribly disgusting and hurtful. To sit there and insult her physical appearance, call her a “beast,” and tell her to shut her f—ing mouth was just beyond. I mean, even to this day, all I can do is stare in wide-eyed horror and shake my head in disgust. As for Kyle, I wouldn’t presume to get in the middle of family matters, but I am horrified by the way Kim treats her. I can only hope they find a way to settle their differences because this is just so NOT OK.
I am rarely left speechless, but this kinda does it. This was horrific to watch. I realized Kim is an awful person drunk, high and sober. I am surprised she has anyone left who supports her in her life. She and Kingsley have a lot in common. Lisa calls what happens next her “DO NOT F— WITH ME” moment. She is glad she didn’t strangle Kim (me, not so much). Tell us she hears the food in jails is not so good and orange is not in her color wheel. She points out that Kim has only met HH once (but rumors and innuendo are usually based on assumptions and not actually knowing the person). But, guess what? The one time she met HH was the night of the Poker Part from Hell. You know the day, right? The day Kim had taken 1, 2, 7 or 9 of Monty’s pain pills. Perhaps in her drug induced state, she saw HH do something rather unsettling.
Look, I own the fact that I allowed myself to be provoked, and it was uncool to break a glass in the restaurant. It was not one of my finest moments, but there’s only so much my inner gangster can take before she goes postal. It was all very draining, and by the time we got to our conversation the next morning, I was really over it and not looking for another fight. Besides, we were in Amsterdam for God’s sake, and it was beautiful and I wasn’t about to let Kim, of all people, ruin my short time there, so I stopped reminding Kim that I had, in fact, come directly to her with my concerns and just took the high road.
Hmph. She “owns” that she broke the glass. I think it would be better if she apologizes first and then explains her inner monologue. I have never thrown a drink on someone or broke a glass (on purpose).
Chaos and anger aside, I really loved being in Amsterdam, especially with such a wonderful and generous tour guide as Yolanda. Riding bikes through her quaint village to the windmills was refreshing, cathartic, and good for the soul. The cake eating was pretty funny and then, of course, more drama ensued, which I couldn’t get away from fast enough. I was in survival mode already just trying to get through the evening, let alone another five days.
I thought the bike riding and such was quite fun! I really really wish Bravo would call me so I could tell them all the things we (I) want to see on these Housewives shows!
“Kim Is Acting Completely Unhinged”
Eileen was “thrilled” when she got to Amsterdam. I bet she changed her tune pretty quick upon hearing about Lisa R. being reprimanded by Kim on the plane. She is disturbed that Kim is so vicious.
At dinner, I was really touched when Yolanda shared with us her feelings about what happened with Bella. I loved what she said about showing your true core. I wholeheartedly agree, and I was happy to think we were going to go to a deeper level in our friendships with each other. I was surprised to hear about Lisa R.’s sister passing away. It hits very close to home. No wonder she’s sensitive to everything happening to Kim and Kyle right now. I think her apology to Kim was beautiful, and it takes a lot of courage to bare part of a painful past.
OK, I am gonna say. Kim asked Lisa not to bring it up again. She was pretty clear about that. So, I think Kim had a right to be a tiny bit pissed, but maybe could have said, “Lisa, I understand where you are coming from, BUT I have asked you time and time again to stop bringing up MY issues. Why must you continue?” This could have been said POLITELY. Clearly, Kim’s mom, Big Kathy, did not teach manners to her very entitled child star.
That’s why I couldn’t believe that Kim exploded. Lisa R. started with an apology. I think this was about the fifth time she had apologized, actually. She wasn’t attacking Kim, but Kim definitely started attacking Lisa R. I was completely shocked by the level of viciousness, and I interjected. That’s when Kim calls me a “beast.” Really? For doing what exactly? Then she hits below the belt about Lisa R.’s “situation at home”—whatever that is supposed to mean—and then tells me to “shut my f—ing mouth”? What am I missing? This isn’t our first night in Amsterdam; this is our first night in Crazy Town.
I think Lisa could have shared her experience and said, “So, just so EVERYONE understands, this is why I am very sensitive to situations regarding addiction.” Hind sight is 20-20. So in a very small way, I get why Kim was pissed at Lisa. Not to the degree that she took it, but she had a teeny tiny right to be mad. BUT, there is absolutely NO explanation for why she went after Eileen. None. Perhaps she has just spent too much time with her new BFF and Bobble’s behavior transfers through osmosis. When Kim goes after Kyle, this whole thing escalates to another level. Lisa attempts to defend Kyle (which surely is not allowed by Kim cause only she can be the victim) and Kim goes in to full assault mode. Eileen realizes that Lisa was pushed to her breaking point.
This is the first time I’ve heard Kim mention her grown children this way. I do have empathy for her and what her family went through, but honestly, aren’t her actions far worse than anything Lisa R. and I have said or done?
I think Kim’s kids have given her the ultimate ultimatum: It’s either us or the addiction. I think they should have said, “It’s either us or the addiction AND the housewives show.” Eileen said she really wanted to go home and that the whole trip was overshadowed by this event. Once they got back to the hotel, Lisa R. tells everyone she will never speak to Kim again.
So, the next morning, kudos to Kim, I guess? She went to see Lisa R. She must be there to apologize for her heinous veiled accusations about Harry, right? No! She’s there to explain why she got so heated. If “heated” is even the right word? After everything that happened the night before, the trauma, the insults, is this conversation really enough to just make it all go away? Apparently so, and now I am really confused that everything’s “just fine” again. I’m all for working to resolve conflict, but I can’t help but feel that Kim and Lisa are sweeping everything under the rug. It would be fantastic if Lisa feels that everything was resolved, but does she really? How could she possibly feel that after what happened the night before? That was a traumatizing experience, and I’m not buying it. Where’s Kim’s apology for making that veiled comment about Harry? Where’s Kim’s apology to me? To Kyle?
I think Kim was maybe told by production that she needed to “clear the air” or get off out of Crazy Town (reminiscent of Crazy Island anyone?) Perhaps she was prodded and told, “Remember what happened to the girl that ate too many gummy bears and jelly bellies? That could be you!” I don’t for a minute think that Lisa R. was able to “forgive” Kim. I think she was able to put the situation aside for the sake of the bigger picture. I think Lisa looks at RHBH as a JOB and a paycheck. So, yes, they are still in Crazy Town.
Because of our love and respect for Yolanda, we all manage to compartmentalize what has happened, and we go bike riding. Yeah, we did that, and it was hilarious. Biking along canals and passing windmills was the quintessential Holland experience. Meeting Yolanda’s “first” kiss (or was he?) was cute, too. The people that lived inside the windmills were lovely, and it was a personal highlight for me. Yolanda’s mother is amazing! She’s survived so much, and she’s battling cancer again. She’s such a positive and kind person; I see where Yolanda gets it. I’m truly in awe of her. I also adore her brother, Leo. What wonderful people, and I felt a true connection with them for sure.
I thought it was very sweet when the man said he and Yo had “dated” and kissed. Shows how very small her town was when she was growing up. The windmills and the bike ride were just beautiful.
At the “coffee shop,” I’m starting to have fun and things with the ladies have mellowed. Thank God Kim decided not to come. For many reasons, that is probably a fantastic move on her part. I went in adamant that I was not going to have any space cake. But, like I said, I gave in to the peer pressure! It was just a little corner, people! So…we managed to have some fun for about one minute. We leave the coffee shop, and I hear screaming. I turn around to see that Brandi is ranting in the street. Honestly, she has become the biggest buzzkill! And I mean that literally! She thinks we’re all “hypocrites,” and I’m really not sure why. Kyle was upset that Brandi brought up something personal in front of everybody, and Brandi doesn’t see the difference between her behavior and Kyle’s. So, here we have it: Kim and Brandi, ranting and raving, with not nearly enough space cake in the world to chill them both out.
I think these ladies stay up late every night adding to the list of things they accidentally said or did in front of Brandi and preparing for the day that it will be thrown back in their faces in a very public way. With my friends, we SHARE secrets. I tell you something weird or strange about myself and then you share something equally as weird and strange. Then we are even and keep each other’s secrets. The difference here is that Brandi has no secrets. This is a woman that has shown her tampon string to the world. There is nothing you can say about her that could possibly damage her nonexistent reputation. Girl has nothing to lose.
“Lisa R. Took The Bait”
Lisa shares with us that she had voiced her concern about discussing Kim’s ever changing sobriety. Lisa V. knows first-hand that Kim does not handle this well.
Anyway, we go to dinner…I actually cringed as I objected to Yolanda’s stance on prostitution, my caustic remark in interview, but that, in the grand scale of things, flew under the radar. However, I am sure in situations where there is no choice, maybe prostitution is understandable, but in a cosmopolitan city like Amsterdam where there are a plethora of choices–maybe even menial–but choices nonetheless, whilst preserving our dignity, they would be mine.
I have never been a prostitute or stripper. #1 reason is I am not a fan of being naked. I gave birth to twins at 25. My belly looks like a road map. #2 reason is I have never been that desperate BUT, if I had to choose between my kids starving because I had no means of paying for food and do a completely legal deed (as it is in Amsterdam) than I guess I would take of my big girl panties and just do it. I would squeeze every penny I could from each “conquest” and I would find a way out of that “job” asap. I think Lisa made a joke. I don’t think there is any little girl in Amsterdam who has a Prostitute Barbie that hangs out with Veterinarian and Doctor Barbie. I could be wrong.
Lisa V. takes Yo to task by addressed Yo’s comment about how everyone in BH is superficial. Lisa says that maybe other woman have superficial chats, but she isn’t like there. Whether home in BH or in the English countryside.
So things start to heat up…Lisa categorically says, “I apologize for getting in your business.” That should have been the end of it, but no, Kim was gunning for her and was not going to back down. She was on a mission. I adore Lisa, and I don’t stand in front of her and condone her actions (any physicality does not sit well with me), however, there comes a time when one might just snap, especially when you are defending the good name of your family, their integrity in a public arena against the aggressor, being Kim, who is hinting at insidious rumors. I urge Lisa to challenge her later over the spiteful intimation regarding Harry. I was absolutely of the mind that it was empty rhetoric, designed to incite Lisa. But Lisa reacted to it. Lisa took the bait, and therefore became somewhat culpable in this whole scenario.
Agree. By reacting to Kim’s ridiculous accusations, Lisa lowered herself to Kim’s level.
Once again Kim lambasts Kyle for not defending her. How could Kyle defend her mean-spirited remarks? Calling Eileen a beast? I mean, have you all met Eileen? Really?
Really? (I am reminded of Seth Myers and Amy Poehler’s “Really?” segments on SNL.)
I have to say it was pretty hilarious that out of all the men and all the windmills, we found one of Yolanda’s ex-boyfriends. What a gift that we giggled over, enjoying the playful banter as we teased her.
It was pretty cute! Also made better when Yolo couldn’t remember this guy!
All was sailing along pretty smoothly until the pot shop. I make no pretenses of anything whatsoever. We are in a public forum, we are all aware of that. My children are grown, and I understand the reticence to partake in whatever was on offer, but then let’s not go there in the first place. Let us not sit in the middle of this bar and start hurling accusations designed to embarrass.
Just because Brandi chooses to let her children know about ALL of her questionable choices (and did I read somewhere that Brandi’s own lawyer advised her NOT to partake in any pot consumption?) does not mean all the ladies want their kids to know everything.
I do understand to some extent what Brandi is saying regarding hypocrisy. If you do it, own it, but in all the years I have known Kyle, I don’t ever recall seeing her smoking. Brandi persisted, but the caveat here is we are all too often the victims of her behavior. When she drinks, things often become aggressive…as you will see next week.
I don’t quite understand this. There are some things people do, that they don’t intend for their kids to know about. My son recently asked me if I had ever smoked pot. I was able to say quite honestly that I had not. But, if I had, I imagine I could have used this as a teachable moment. I also could have said that it was none of his business! These are all parenting choices that should be made by THE PARENT and not some random loser on a reality show.
I am leaving NY after speaking at the United Nations–an overwhelming experience. It was snowing, so East Coast, stay warm! As always…
March 2nd, Lisa gave a speech regarding the Ebola crisis. I am not sure what makes her an expert in this area, but here is a quote from her speech:
“The current ebola outbreak has taken more victims than every other outbreak combined. The graphic images of victims lying bleeding from the gut and people stepping over them is heart wrenching. We have to be proactive an increase funding for research, or we are guilty for stepping over them as a nation. It is not just a West African problem. We are a global community and it is our problem, and I urge all nations to pay attention to this crisis.”
…on hypocrisy and double standards
Let us start by saying there is no way in hell that Brandi wrote this. Her blogs have been quite a plethora of weirdness this season and either she has a multiple personality disorder or she is using someone else to write her blogs (and tweets). It’s fun cause we can all tell when she figures out her twitter password! Brandi/Ghostwriter shares that she is currently in Ca. She had the BEST weekend BBQing and hanging with her new BFF Leeza Gibbons (I hope Kim doesn’t get jealous).
Jaws drop in stunned horror if I reply, ”I’ll knock your teeth out” (empty words thrown out when under verbal attack on RHOBH). Admittedly, not my greatest moment, but you try putting up with some of the “ladies” of Beverly Hills (or wherever they pretend to live). I will sincerely work on other ways to get crazy people yelling in my face to back up. Anyway, it’s called hyperbole, Kyle. Yeah, smart people know what that is. Kyle, look it up.
Hyperpole noun A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.
Hmmm. Not the same as “I’ll knock your teeth out”. THAT is a threat; not hyperbole Ms. Ghostwriter.
I mean real violence. Digging your fingers into someone’s arm to forcibly push them out of your way or grabbing for someone’s throat in anger isn’t worthy of being condemned by the same group. No mention at all. As a matter of fact, after they regrouped and arranged their group spin, it was Kim’s and my fault that Rinna is a crazy, violent person who throws dangerous broken glass in people’s faces. You women are over half a century old. Own your behavior.
Dear God in heaven we are not talking about those scratches on your arm again are we? I am so very bored of those. I sincerely hope she brought photos to the reunion and that Kyle WEARS the alleged weapon. Ghostwriter goes on to compare the wine toss on Eileen to what Lisa R. did. Whatever.
Heaving broken glass at people’s faces: ACCEPTABLE
Reaching across a table to rip someone’s throat out with your nails, hurling a full drink with ice cubes in a face, and the best of all, purposefully smashing a large wine glass as hard as you can in the direction of my and Kim’s face wasn’t discussed at all. Yep. It never happened. I didn’t dig glass out of my skin, out of my ear, spend hours in the shower trying to get shards out of my hair cutting my fingers, oh, and picking it out of my clothes, so it didn’t get in my children’s laundry later on.
I am now reminded of the SNL skit with Dan Aykroyd and Candice Bergen and he is a toy salesman selling a Bag O Glass. Hey Ghostwriter, Lisa R. did not HEAVE broken glass at anyway. She smashed a glass on the table. Unless Brandi rolled around on that table before she went back to the hotel, I have a hard time believing there was glass in her hair, her ear or clothes. Maybe she brought documentation to the reunion.
Mentioning Kyle smokes weed: HORRIFIC
File under no big deal. Most people have, including the President. If you constantly refer to the truth as “dangerous,” Kyle, maybe change the way you live.
You are right. It is “no big deal”, but it is Kyle’s “not big deal” to share; not your’s.
Kyle telling the world her sister is an alcoholic: ACCEPTABLE
Humiliating Kim’s children in front of the entire world. Yeah, helpful.
Hey Ghostwriter…your client accused Kim of using crystal meth in the bathroom!!!
Note Kim didn’t expose any of Rinna’s secrets. Kim only lets it be known that she COULD. All I’m saying is that if I had nothing to hide, I wouldn’t be trying to claw out someone’s throat, knocking chairs over, and breaking glasses at Yolanda’s dinner parties. Would you?
What are these secrets? I have a strong feeling Kim pulled this hat out of her bag for the sole purpose of DEFLECTION.
I’m sorry everyone. I’m done. I can’t re-hash anymore of this blather. I am so sick of this bitch.
“How Could I Defend Kim?”
Let me start by saying I really don’t understand why Kyle continues to put herself in situations where she will be attacked by Kim. We have seen this happen over and over again. I think it would behoove Kyle to approach Bravo and say, “It’s either me or my sister.” Bravo will choose Kyle every day and twice on Sunday. I always thought that Kyle was the reason why Kim remained on the show. That perhaps Kyle had pushed to keep her sister employed. She needs to cut the apron strings and let Kim fend for herself. Let Brandi negotiate Kim’s contract next season.
We arrive to dinner on our first night there, and we are not even there for five minutes when Yolanda suggests we all go around the table and share something to bring us all closer. Yolanda started with Bella’s DUI. I know that was a difficult time for Yolanda, and she had never discussed what had happened with anyone from the group before, and I know she wanted to get that off her chest. When it was Lisa Rinna’s turn, she decided to share losing her sister to a drug and alcohol overdose. The mood was quiet and everyone was attentive and taking it all in. After Lisa shared her story, she then apologized to Kim. I was hoping Kim would just say, “Thank you,” and it would all be over. But when Kim started in with Lisa, once again, I immediately went into panic mode. I had no idea what was about to ensue. As things escalated, I truly went into in shock. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing and seeing. I was pleading with my sister to stop. Kim was saying I should be defending her, but I could not defend someone that was behaving in such a manner. Sister or not. If my sister had handled the situation with Lisa R. the way we had discussed, in a nice, calm manner, I would have supported her. I have taught my children to stand up for what is right, and I couldn’t bring myself to stand up for that behavior. I didn’t know what my sister expected from me. How can I defend and support her when she’s calling Eileena “beast” and saying “shut your f—ing mouth” or threatening to reveal something about Lisa R’s husband (who didn’t sign up for this show)? People’s families are off limits. You just don’t do that.
Your right, Kyle. Kim is indefensible…so, why do you keep defending her? Kyle is a classic co-dependent and needs to get her ass to an al-anon meeting ASAP.
When Lisa R. lunged across the table at Kim, it was startling! I have never seen that side of Lisa. I would have never guessed she could get to that point. Then Lisa threw the glass! I couldn’t believe what was happening. Lisa was wrong to go after Kim like that. Absolutely. It was scary to be in the middle of this. I can’t explain why my instinct was to run out of there. I didn’t even have time to think. I just wanted to get as far away as possible. Even as a little girl, my instinct when something scared me was to run and hide. In that moment, I felt like a child again. It was so incredibly upsetting. I didn’t know what was going to happen next, and I didn’t want to be there.
The whole scene (and it is hard to call it a scene cause it was real) is just horrible to watch. As I said before, it gave me a horrible tummy ache and I watched it from the comfort of my couch.
The next day I woke up thinking, “How are we going to get through this day?” When I heard Kim and Lisa R. “made up,” I was dumbstruck. How on earth can they even pretend to be OK after what happened the night before? I’m all for trying to make the most of a bad situation, but that was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen between “friends.” I couldn’t just pretend everything was OK as much as I wish I could have. Apparently, Kim and I both decided we would both ignore each other completely.
This was weird. Super weird. I am a person who wears emotions on my sleeve. I cannot pretend to like someone. I cannot brush something under the rug. Maybe cause many of these women have training as actors, they can do this a little better than most. I would have spent the day back in that hotel room on the potty.
In spite of the tension, I did enjoy seeing this beautiful country and visiting Yolanda’s mother who was sweet and gracious. Side note: That day, I lost my wallet when it fell out of my pocket while riding my bike, and I fell off the bike that was too big for me. Good times! With my good luck streak, I should have known to stay home that evening.
Yolanda’s mother was very sweet and welcoming to these lunatics. I am glad the ladies managed to be on their best behavior in her home.
However…we did decide to head out to the “pot shops.” Some of the women decided they would try a space cake, and some of us didn’t want to. I don’t know why Brandi thought it was hypocritical of us not to have a space cake. SHE wasn’t having any because her lawyer told her she couldn’t. So if some of us didn’t want to, either, why did she care? I NEVER said I had never tried pot. It’s just not my thing and doesn’t agree with me. And since I’ve never eaten it, Mauricio warned me it wasn’t a good idea. But why was Brandi so insistent on ruining what started out as a fun evening? Once outside, she was screaming about the women saying she was a bad mother, an alcoholic, etc. I tried to diffuse the situation by calmly telling her that I never said she was a bad mother, but she didn’t want to hear anything I had to say. In typical Brandi fashion, she had to make a scene, screaming nonsense that came out of the blue. Nobody was engaging with her except me. I finally realized that she was dead set on making this another big fight, and I didn’t know where that would lead us. This wouldn’t be the last argument on our trip to Amsterdam. Not by far.
I bet dollars to donuts Kyle regrets every day that she spent any time outside the show with Brandi. I bet she stays up late rehashing any personal information she might have shared with Brandi.