Million Dollar Listing NY Episode 11

Million Dollar Listing NY Season 4 – Episode 11 by NotInStCyr

For those of you who’ve been worried about the possibility of Puffer Munkin getting shipped off to the land of cuckoo clocks – sorry, but there will be no resolution in this episode.  This cliffhanger will probably get resolved in the finale.  However, if you happened to hang around the commercial break, you would have seen a short clip showing Emilia and Ryan together at the premiere of “While We’re Young”.  According to the IMDB, Ryan, who was formerly Evan Walsh on “As the World Turns” plays Hedge Fund Dave in Noah Baumbach’s latest movie starring Ben Stiller, Naomi Watts and Amanda Seyfried.

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Fredrik is driven to 290 West by his driver, who’s been newly christened, “Big Al”.  BTW, West is the name of the street, not the direction. This is the newest project by Zach Vella, the developer with whom Fredrik works the most.  The new building will be divided into a few apartments and penthouses with floor-to-ceiling views of the city or the Hudson River.  Zach shows Fredrik one of the penthouses under construction.  The 1,600 sq. ft. duplex will have an outdoor terrace, a swimming pool and views of the Statue of Liberty.  The developer feels that since the waterfront views will never be obstructed, he can ask up to $2,900/sq. ft.  Surprisingly, Fredrik suggests they should up that to $3,100/sq. ft., and he starts to think about the marketing he’d like to do.  Zach interrupts Fredrik’s starry-eyed monologue, because he’d rather put the money into the building.  You may remember a few years back that Fredrik had to beg Vella to allow him to use his home for the launch party, probably because he was put on a low-budget leash back then, too.  If he sells out the 290 West building, Fredrik stands to make a $3 million commission.  Wowza.

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Ryan is on his way to Soho, which he calls the Iggy Azalea of real estate.  Okay.  Roger owns a 3-story, 3,420 sq. ft. townhome that was built in 1930 and has 2 bedrooms, 5 baths, an elevator and a courtyard.  Prior to the listing pitch, Ryan did a little research and discovered that Roger also owns the air rights above his home, which would bring the total amount of available real estate to 6,000 sq. ft.  Apparently, invisible real estate is very valuable in New York.  The seller, who looks like a tough nut to crack, has outgrown the townhome and wants to list it for $11.5 million to $12 million.  Ryan doesn’t want to overprice the property and tells Roger that he could agree to the high price to get the listing and then, when no offers are forthcoming, come back and try to lower  the price.  Instead, Ryan would like to start at a lower number, with the understanding that he’ll negotiate for significantly more money above the asking price.  Roger agrees to this strategy.

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Luis has a meeting with Ian Reisner, the developer who treated him badly in the past.  Reisner was an odd, obnoxious developer who took advantage of Luis’ eagerness to establish himself as a broker and harassed him constantly during a real estate deal a season or two ago.  He made inappropriate gay innuendos, forced Luis to pick up his laundry and insisted on calling him “Ricky Ricardo”.  Right off the bat, Reisner remarks that Luis is no longer “Rookie Ricardo” but “Ricky Ricardo”.  Ugh.  Luis asserts himself this time around and tells Reisner that he wants to be treated with respect, so no more Ricky Ricardo jokes.  I would have just hit Reisner on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper.

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Reisner bought three adjacent units in the 230 Central Park South building and wants to combine them to form one large apartment.  Better yet, if the rest of the floor can be bought out, he’d have a 3,000 sq. ft. apartment with its own elevator landing and 75 feet of windows overlooking Central Park.  Luis thinks such an apartment could be worth $25 million.  Reisner wants Luis’ help in acquiring the remaining 2 apartments for about $6 million.  Unlike developers like Zach Vella who build or redevelop buildings, Reisner just wants to corner the market on an entire floor of a building.  I’m surprised this is possible without getting permission from TPTB of 230 Central Park South.  You’d think that creating one extremely large apartment would change the building’s dynamics, making its owner an 800 lb. gorilla.  Anyway, if Reisner succeeds, Luis could get a commission of $750,000.

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As we’ve learned, the luxury real estate market in New York is very competitive because there’s a surplus of product.  Developers are falling over themselves to offer the latest high-end amenities – like in-unit parking, private swimming pools and park-sized terraces – to attract buyers.  So, when people are being asked to pay exorbitant prices for apartments that don’t yet exist, they really want to see something more than just renderings. Last week, Fredrik was able to rake in over $40 million in sales, because the developers of 5 Beekman followed his recommendations and spent $2 million to create a state-of-the art sales gallery that helped people see what they would get for their money.  Vella’s refusal to invest in marketing ties Fredrik’s hands.  The only thing he can do is to be upbeat and charming while helping brokers and prospective buyers gingerly pick their way around porta potties, puddles, cables, lumber and other construction debris on the site.

Ryan hasn’t been able to get any offers for the Soho townhome.  The seller wants a lot of money for what is really a small, dark house.  So, Ryan gets creative and contacts some boutique developers who might be interested in demolishing the structure, exploiting the air rights and using the 6,000 sq. ft. of buildable space. Unfortunately, when Ryan presents an offer for $10.5 million, Roger tells him that it’s a “snore”.  Ryan contacts the prospective buyer’s broker and is able to get the bid raised to the more exciting amount of $11 million.  For getting the deal done and enduring Roger’s pretentiousness, Ryan gets a $330,000 commission and a bottle of wine.

Luis has already bought one of the units in the Central Park South building, because the owner was getting ready to move anyway.  However, he’s been unable to identify the owner of the last apartment on the floor.  All he knows is that the owner travels a lot and rented the apartment out back in 2003.  Fade to the NestSeeker’s office, where Ryan is approached by one of his colleagues, Ivy.  Wouldn’t you know it — Ivy has a friend who wants a broker to represent him, because he’s gotten a low ball offer from Luis for his apartment at (wait for it….) 230 Central Park South.  Yes, her “friend” is the elusive world traveler that Luis has been trying to track down.  What a coincidence — and in a city of 8.4 million people!  Oh Bravo.  You must think viewers are really stupid.  Actually – considering your lineup, I’m sure you do.  Ryan calls this a “gift from God”.

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No doubt, with visions of a prospective client getting impaled by a stray I beam in mind, Fredrik has decided to spend $20,000 of his own money to host a launch party.  He’s hired a cruise boat that will swan around the Hudson River in front of 290 West to emphasize its water views.  He’s also invited Derek, as well as his friend, Lynn.  Fredrik tells us that he if he was straight, he’d marry her.  Derek pulls him away from the party and asks him to step outside.  With Lynn at his side and the Brooklyn Bridge in the background, Derek, paint-dappled perfection that he is, tells Fredrik that he and Lynn have been talking.  Lynn interrupts him and announces, excitedly, that the “3 of us should have a baby!”  For once, Fredrik is speechless.  Soon, hugs, toasts, shouts of excitement and jumps for joy abound.  The great egg hunt is over, and Milla Eklund is on her way.  However, if they happen to have a son, they probably should name him “Brooklyn”.

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Ryan meets Michael, the mysterious owner of the last remaining apartment on the floor that Reisner and Luis are trying to acquire.  It turns out that Michael spends half of his year on a cattle ranch in Brazil.  Nonetheless, he loves his 1,600 sq. ft. apartment, which he created from two units, and he’s been renovating for the past year.  Unfortunately for him, new buildings under construction across the street will dramatically change his view.  He also knows that as the owner of the last unit in a buy-out, especially an apartment with unobstructed Central Park views, he’s in an enviable position.  He’s willing to sell, but he wants to make the developer overpay by $1 million. Ryan gets a blissful, Grinch-like smile on his face as he contemplates the “beauty of the buy-out”.  He promises Michael that he’ll “swing for the fences”.

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Ryan is in his car, still savoring the thought of having Luis over a barrel.  Uh — that doesn’t sound right, but you know what I mean. As he calls Luis on his cell phone, Ryan says to himself, “You’re going to be glad you picked up the phone today”.  Wow, another coincidence!  Now, we’ve known Ronita – Luis’ long-suffering and indispensable assistant – to be loyal, wise and hard-working.  Yet, she chose to slack off at the exact moment Ryan calls Luis, forcing Luis to answer the phone himself.  Somewhere there is a Bravo memo that instructed its employees to assume viewers have the intelligence and gullibility of a duck-billed platypus.  Actually, I don’t know if platypuses (platypi?) are particularly dumb.  It just sounded funny.  My apologies if any semi-aquatic, egg-laying mammals were offended.  Speaking of mammals — Ryan tells Luis, who looks as if there’s something particularly unpleasant at the other end of the line, that he’d like to pick his brain about a listing he has — oh, on Central Park South.  This stuns Luis into silence, so Ryan asks with great concern, “Are you there…did I lose you?”  He explains to Luis that he has a client who owns the combination of 2 units on a floor that a developer is trying to buy out, and he’d like to price the property competitively.  Luis is holding a certain finger out as Ryan gloats and ends the call.  Luis then explodes and cries out, “you son of a b*tch!”.  Ryan, on the other hand, is smiling.  He says, “real estate is a sport, and I smell blood”.

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Karma, on the other hand, is also a b*tch.  It’s Ryan’s turn to get a call on his cell phone.  According to Bravo’s timeline, this happened to happen right after Ryan and Luis’ conversation.  OK, platypi, let’s play along.  Oh look, it’s the broker for the buyer of the Soho property.  He tells Ryan that the deal is off, because his client just got arrested.  Hilariously, Ryan asks if he was “Bieber arrested” or “arrested arrested”.  The broker assures him that his client is a jailbird.  Uh oh.  Ryan phones his wine-swilling client, Roger, who’s in a good mood and wants to know how is “favorite broker” is doing.  Ryan tells him about the aborted deal.  Roger is not pleased and is probably frowning into his wine glass.  He wants to know, “What kind of buyer are you bringing me?”, as if Ryan had shown the townhome to members of the Medillin cartel.  Before Ryan can answer or spin the situation, Michael vows to bring in another broker and hangs up.  Enraged, Ryan tries to throw his cell phone on the floor of the car but succeeds in spilling coffee all over himself.  Karma, let’s do lunch.

Vella commissioned renderings for the 290 West building.  I had to show you this one.  Just look at the floor-to-ceiling windows and the view of the Hudson River.  If you squint and look to the far left, you can see the Statue of Liberty.  Oh, did you notice the life-sized statue of a horse in the living room?  If you’re űber wealthy, why wouldn’t you want a full-sized stallion in your apartment?  At least I hope it’s a statue and not the nonexistent owner’s stuffed polo pony.

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Don’t forget that Stars has launched her website –

We’ve got one more episode of MMLNY to close out this season.

About Veena (NMD)

Just a housewife ... who loves this place .... and loves to write ... You can reach me through this email: Lynn's Place is in tribute to Housewives blogger Lynn Hudson, who passed away in August of 2012.
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215 Responses to Million Dollar Listing NY Episode 11

  1. TexasTart says:

    Thank you, NotInStCyr! Whaaaaat with that full sized stallion art?! Glad you captured part of that in the photos! ” I would have just hit Reisner on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper.” 😆 “…savoring the thought of having Luis over a barrel…” 😆 Lots of jewels in your descriptions, love it! Oh, I just saw the episode with the Beekman model and mock up and WOWZA…only Fredrik!

  2. ladebra says:

    I watched this episode over the weekend. I don’t watch regularly – but I thought Ryan’s treatment of Luis was uncalled for. I get Buyer beware, I get free market – but I don’t get the fing owner saying even $3 million is over priced and Ryan asking $11 million. The owner didn’t authorize that price? Isn’t that unethical? The owner knows there’s an interested Buyer and Ryan is playing games. Here’s what I want to see – Luis and his developer WALK AWAY! And then the greedy bastard Ryan not sell the unit for the bloated $3M, and the owner fire Ryan.

    • hawkmoon947 says:

      There’s bad blood between Luis and Ryan. Ryan thinks Luis broke the bro code by giving him the cold shoulder after they declared a truce at the end of last season. If I remember, they became temporary BFFs after doing a deal together. Ryan even gave Luis $20,000, even though he didn’t contribute to the sale. Luis’ betrayal motivated Ryan into buddying up with Fredrik at the start of this season. I understand why Ryan would relish getting one over on Luis. I don’t think he’s serious about the $3 million — it’s probably a negotiating ploy. He’ll make it look like a concession when he agrees to $1-$1.5 million.

      • ladebra says:

        Ah. I didn’t know the history. I thought all these guys were sort of frenemies. One would think NYC has enough real estate for everyone. I didn’t watch the final episode last night but I have it set to record today. Thanks Hawkmoon!

    • Powell says:

      We haven’t really seen anyone get fired in a while on any if the cities have we?

  3. Sarah says:

    I recently read a blog that referred to an announcement about the future of Lynn Fam blogs…what did I miss? I haven’t been able to find that info archived…thanks!

  4. TARTS—- where on Starz’ page do I click ? What did you mean?

    Maybe VV???

    —-SJP- girl I love Aries and relate to Jeff’s psychotic ways bc my dad is like a double/ triple one who is also an entrepreneur who started with NOTHING. So I get very perturbed by seeing people close to Jeff take advantage of him. Yes he has personality issues but then DONT CHOOSE TO WORK FOR HIM OR LIVE WITH HIM JEEEEZ.
    Plus I have a strong Aries part in my own chart so my emotions are ruled the Aries way. I literally have ZERO patience for people.

    I saw what WTG mentioned about Bethenny ordering the pasta dish at the queens restaurant she took a couple of the approved co-workers to – and she was nibbling slowly on her rigatoni. It was like 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨eating problem hello hello. 🙄

    She kept saying that all she did was eat all day in T&C (besides busting into other people’s convos and performing therapy on others) ….. Wonder how the bathroom situation is, if she has her own. 😒
    Or she’ll just not eat for a week and “cleanse” when she gets back. #looney 🚑jmho

    • TexasTart says:

      At this time, there is nowhere to click to make it smaller.
      So true about Jeff. Congrats to your Dad for building a long lasting business from nothing!

  5. Veena (NMD) says:

    Hey everyone – since Starzy is having such problems with comments, please chat over here and give her time to work out the glitches.

    I am SO ready for the long weekend.

  6. TexasTart says:

    Bringing this over because it’s sooooo good 😆

    • California35 says:

      Hahah this is funny I saw it on the other site. It is good to see someone straight out and publicly call pin her out, and no doubt Taylor is the type to do it. Hahaha i like “ENOUGH!” I can imagine that scene when she said that.

      Now what’s going on with her? Is she really that closed to “her friends”? Are there real friends or TV friends? I read somewhere that Taylor gave out an interview. Talking briefly about her past abusive relationship, her new relationship, how she is herself now, and that we did not get to see the changes in her after all that was done. Interesting take on that, so I wonder of dhe wats to come back and we really WILL see a changed better Taylor than what we saw

    • Veena (NMD) says:

      When Taylor Armstrong says ENOUGH to you – you know you’ve hit rock bottom.

    • Foxymel(Mel) says:

      Girl… know I love your picture! 😆
      Thank you, Taylor!!!

  7. kit9 says:

    OmdoubleG. Has anyone else seen the preview clip of NY w/Dorinda and Luann hammered drunk? It’s scary(Dorinda), infuriating(Luann)and hilarious(Kristen). But mostly scary. Wow.

    • lila1star says:

      I saw it and found myself getting interested in NY again but now it just seems like yet another HW show and the resident drunk. After the season with Kim on BH I just do not want to go there anymore.

      • California35 says:

        I did not see it, but I have not watched the last few episodes 😕 bad time to cancel cable. I have not done any research on how to watch episodes. I do remember that the Bravo site has a section to watch fukl episodes, but is that really true? Any one here watches the Bravo shows in that site?

        • lila1star says:

          That’s how I watched–at the bravo site. They have the last 3-4 you can watch. I needed my cable provider info to watch though–not sure if one can watch without–I will check.

          • Powell says:

            I wonder if you can fake it and provide your old cable info. I know if I want to watch on my phone day CNN, hbo, I put in my DirecTV email sign in.

            • lila1star says:

              That might work–if your old cable info is still in their system it would work.

        • lila1star says:

          You can watch clips and previews but full episodes you have to have a TV provider to sign in with.

          • California35 says:

            Aah ok 😕
            I have internet and am adding either chanels OR itunes for a show I want. So far I’ve been fine. But no Bravo.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:


      I don’t thnk dorinda was scary- I think she was drunk. And incomprehensible.

      I thnk Heather is the new Yolanda- in that she is insufferable. Who defends teaching her daughter the F bomb? Someone who wants to argue for the sake of an argument.

      Kristen mugging and making faces for the camera? Yawn.

      • not THAT Jill says:

        I didn’t find Dorinda to be scary..drunk YES but not scary. I think these women are over Heather and when the drinks flow they just let it all out! I love that Kristen said Dorinda was scary b/c she was drunk…Kristen is BFF with Brandi…she’s scared of drunk people??? Come on now girl!!
        Kristen and those stupid faces…now that’s friggen scary!!

        • California35 says:

          Hahah – acrross the country far away, is why this “friendship” is still going….

          So Dorinda got drunk drunk, hmm interesting. I guess with so muvh alchool on those shows and with the constant silly drama, it can be easy to try to ease the stress with alchool 😛 too bad the alchool causes them to then add a new problem.
          Is like saying, i had a headache, so i had something to drink, i still have the headache but now i don’t care lol.
          Dorinda has been tweent the drama From the begening with Ramona and Sonja, then Ramona and Bethenny, then everyone and she acted so annoyed but only said soemthing on the talking heads, not there.

          • Powell says:

            Hey Dorinda was in another country, no way to escape these ladies. She can usually leave early and go home. So I don’t blame her for having a few too many to take her “away ” from them. If the too much screaming can make me turn the channel I can only imagine what they have to do up live and in person.

        • California35 says:

          Jill I LOVE your picture 😀😀👍🏼👍🏼😀😛😛😉😜

        • ramonacoaster says:

          I think Kristen’s only TH last episode that I can recall was her making a gross face at seeing Luann’s snatch.

        • Foxymel(Mel) says:

          I’m really liking Carmela Soprano. She’s a good addition to the cast, imo.

        • kit9 says:

          Dorinda was literally screaming in tongues. And I didn’t hear Heather say anything horrible. All she said was that if your kid dropped an F bomb it didn’t make you a bad parent. Luann was just absurd, with her lecturing Heather about a daughter’s “elegant” behavior. What part of her daughter sneaking out of the house and breaking two arms in the process was elegant, I’d love to ask her! And, Kristen didn’t looked scared she looked exhausted, imo.

          • chismosa says:

            I haven’t watched anything- i wait for 1st looks or for the actual episode and HATE WHEN BRAVO EXPECTS PEOPLE TO DO EXTRA WORK TO FOLLOW THEIR STUPID SHOWS…. but luann has some BALLS (and we know she does because her voice is so increasingly deep) when LORD KNOWS what shenanigans Victoria was up to in the Kush-ville stuff, being ‘away’ while mommy was in the city with Ross and her painting her naked pics (i’m ALL for art…. i have painters in my family but whoa mama at that age). Her chastising Alex’s kids when Victoria was like practically 18 and eating with her mouth open. LOLOLOLOL. keep preaching Countless. You don’t come from DARIEN in connecticut but go ahead and act like you do!


      • kit9 says:

        I didn’t hear Heather saying she’s teaching her daughter the F bomb. That’s what Luann was absurdly slurring but I never heard Heather say anything like that. Luann was the insufferable one, imo-laying out her rules for proper behavior. UGH! And, it was infuriating because I happen to remember Luann’s daughter on Youtube, uttering a word infintely worse than an F-bomb. And, Dorinda was completely unintelligible and there was a moment when her face had this totally bizarre twisted exaggerated expression on her face. And, it wasn’t her expression that was funny it wasKristen looking for relief from the waiter hilarious.

        • kit9 says:

          should be..Kristen looking for wine relief from the waiter that was hilarious. I didn’t see her making faces-at the height of Dorinda’s screeching, Kristen put her head in her hands.

  8. Powell says:

    Reposting from Snacking and Snarking.

    Good morning everyone. Hope you’re having a great morning. Had a little scared down here at the Navy Yard in DC. Reports of an active shooter around 7. Thk goodness at S little before 10 we were given the all clear. Waiting for the police chief to give details on how this all occurred.

    • California35 says:

      Oh no! 😳😳
      Im glad it is all clear now…
      My morning is nice, having some quiet time before it gets busy. I am happy today is my Friday…and will have a long weekend 😀

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Gosh that’s scary

    • Barb (Just wondering in Jersey) says:

      Keep safe Powell.

    • Foxymel(Mel) says:

      Stay safe Powelly!

      • Powell says:

        I’m glad I was off today. I don’t work downtown but since I do work for the federal government they would have gotten an alert on their computer. You’ll be working and your computer will change screens and you get a blaring alarm.
        Thank goodness it was alright. An employee thought she heard gun shots and called 911. After what happened in ’13 w/12 employees being killed at the Navy Yard I’m sure employees their aren’t taking any chances. That and the U.S. has been put on high alert for the 4th because of Isis threats it’s kinda scary. FBI, police, security where on it in a matter of minutes. I’m glad everything is ok.
        Last week I finished taking all kinds of annual security tests. Active Shooter being one. You hope and pray you never have to use those skills.

        • OneMoreInBoston says:

          I have a friend who is an attorney for a HomeLand security in NYC.

          We live in scary times.

  9. California35 says:

    OMG! Powell that was me about “thong” 😜😜😜 it was so embarrassing but so funny lol

    • Powell says:

      LOL Cali it WAS you!! 😆😆😆😆😆
      That was hilarious!!! Lynn thought it was SO funny. We laughed for days and days. You were a good sport about it!! 😊

  10. shamrockblonde says:

    hello lovies! – hope you all enjoy the Fourth of July!!! – celebrate our freedom and this wonderful Country of ours – God Bless the USA!

    my love to you all!

  11. not THAT Jill says:

    This one…

  12. sparklemuffy says:

    I don’t have showtime but Ray Donovan’s first episode is free and Katie Holmes has a guest role. She looked fabulous. oh–hi all–

    • Powell says:

      That looks like a good show. I haven’t checked it out.

    • chismosa says:

      she literally makes me fall asleep. I don’t get her acting at all. She’s pretty. But even Pretty on RHONY is more animate than this Ex-Sci-Bot

      My friends LOVE ray donovan! i saw the actor on some show in person and he is wonderful wonderful!

  13. Powell says:

    First let me start my comment w/ 🙄

    I’m excuse ME?!? Tmz says to Patty Stanger “you heard Ben Affleck and Jen are divorcing? Who do you think would be good for Ben to date?” She says, again 🙄 , “Well he and J Lo email each other. Maybe.” Or something to that affect. Again 🙄 . She never EVER needs to address a relationship question.

  14. Powell says:

    Fun Fact: tmz spoke to a guy that will be doing the annual 4th Nathan hot dog eating contest, which I love. I didn’t see it last yr though. But they asked him how many pounds will he put on from the competition? He said w/water, bread and the hotdogs about 22lbs. 😱 Can you believe IT?!? That’s amazing!

    • Powell says:

      I can see validity to it. Like Orson said she hasn’t been “on” for the last two seasons. She’s really been phoning it in and making $1mill to boot. I can see her thinking “she’s the ATL OG”, Andy likes her, so she can do what she wants. HWs need to remember that Andy is not “friends” w/98% of them. It’s just work to him.

  15. Orson Buggy says:

    It doesn’t look like I’ll be posting on Snacking and Snarking for a while. I haven’t gone away mad. I’m mildly annoyed that since I got a WP account so I could get in there and post without have to repost, S&S won’t let me log in. But I’m confident that Starzy will get it straightened out. She’s smart. But don’t tell her I said that.

    • Powell says:

      LOL. Orson I think they’ve been doing some testing. My first time on the blog I didn’t have to sign-in since I have a WP account from here. Any blog I got to that’s WP I don’t have to sign-in. This afternoon I went to S&S and it showed I had to sign-in. I didn’t attempt to sign-in because I figured they were testing it.

    • TexasTart says:

      Orson, I was pushing that idea because I was able to fluidly manuver between multiple WordPress sites with out logging in. Matter of fact, I have always stayed logged in with that TexasTart name until I choose to sign out. And that was my experience on S&S, so I thought it would help eliminate one problem for people. And I think it did work for several folks – sorry it didn’t work for you! 😦

      By the way, I feel like I’ve missed an installment Orson Speaks, maybe next week all will be better and you can grace us with your words or wisdom. 😉

      • Orson Buggy says:

        Since I’m new to a WP/Gravatar account, I figure the most likely reason is that I’m doing something wrong. It’s a little surprising, all that happens when you sign up for a WP account. I guess I did one thing right because my Flying Spaghetti Monster Avatar shows up now, both here and at S&S. And I don’t expect Starzy to drop the stuff she’s already working hard on to help with my little issue. She’s got a lot on her plate and she’ll certainly get to it when she gets to it.

        I don’t think you’ve missed an installment. I try to save that when I really have something to say, not just for snark I can just add in a reply to other folks’ comments. Sometimes it takes me a while to mentally come up with what I want to say before I type it up. Other times, I open a notepad page when I’m reading someone’s recap and make comments and notes there and when I’m done I see there’s enough there to for me to rewrite into a screed for me to SPEAK about. Even before I formally named it, I did tend to let stuff mentally stack up and then make a meta-comment. I’d like to save my next one for our new home, Snacking And Snarking.

        Do I have to supply the snacks there when I SPEAK? I do have this cake recipe I guess I could add to the recipe section. Maybe not, it turns out rather chocolaty and probably most of you gurls don’t like chocolate.

        • TexasTart says:

          Yes, you must supply snacks! So glad you asked. 😉

          Did you have to enter your name/address to comment here, with your spaghetti and meatballs??

          If so, on this page (go up a way) on the side bar is a place titled Meta under that click on Log in. Enter your name/address you signed up for spaghetti and meatballs and the box below should default to keep me signed in. Make a comment here and then another to test. If you stay signed in here, then you should at S&S, and any WordPress site! So if you can’t at S&S, I would think it has a glitch still.

          BTW there is not such ” Log In” at S&S. And you don’t have to come back here if you log out, to get back in. You can utilize or to login (top right hand corner). Hope that helps.

          • Orson Buggy says:

            Well, I fired up the WP account to go to Gravatar to add the my Flying Spaghetti Monster. I forget what I did here. Maybe there’s a log in with WP button? But I haven’t had to do it again, so I suspect I’m covered, right?

            • Orson Buggy says:

              If I don’t ever sign/log out, do I have to ever log/sign back in?

            • Orson Buggy says:

              Oh, under the “Meta” label, I have NO “Log in” listing. I do have a “Log out” listing, so I’m afraid to click that.

              • TexasTart says:

                Yay, you’re already logged in. You don’t need to log out…yes you can stay in. Of course, something might happen to log you out, if you clear cookies, or an operating system/browser update, or on a different device.

                Doesn’t seem you’re doing anything wrong. And I knew you were only frustrated and not being critical.

            • TexasTart says:

              Yes, you are covered!

    • Orson Buggy says:

      Okay, one of the problems with the internet is that you can’t see someone else’s expression when they make a comment. it occurs to me that some might take that ^^ comment the wrong way. I said what I really meant to say the wrong way.

      First of all, I know Stars has been working her dupa off for months on the new site. And she’s still working it off chasing down the glitches that have cropped up. She’s not a quitter and I have no doubt that she’ll get it running just fine. And what I’m mildly annoyed about is that I can’t seem to post at S&S for a while, not that other stuff. Not because I’m mad, but because I can’t seem to log in. And that’ll get fixed, I have no doubt.

      So, I hope no one will take what I said as a criticism of Stars’ ability or the work she’s done or is still doing getting S&S up and running. She’s done a great job, volunteering to step in to fill a potential void in our lives.

      • lila1star says:

        Orson–I always start here at my WP
        You can manage your acct–set it up the way you like and stay signed in if you want. However–WP at times will log you out but just log back in there and you are good to go on any and all WP sites. I like my little dashboard that shows me all that’s new with blogs and pages I am following. See of that helps.

        • TexasTart says:

          I like that toolbar too. It didn’t appear at S&S though. Maybe because the site had headers and footers.

          Good morning Lila, and everyone! 😀

          • lila1star says:

            Hi TexasTart–I like the toolbar too but I can live without it as I just use the web site I shared with Orson. Any fun plans TT?

            • TexasTart says:

              Yeah, I was using my reader to find out if I had a reply.
              No plans! All my family is having a big 3 day party in Nashville. Wasn’t a good time for me to travel. What about you?!

    • Veena (NMD) says:

      Starzy and I talked last night and decided that it would be easiest on everyone if she send people back here to comment, so that she would work on trouble shooting her blog – so if you want to make comments about her posts – do so here and I’m sure she’ll see them.

      I’m sure she’ll get this all figured out – and this way she can tackle the issues one at a time.

      This seemed like the easiest and less frustrating band aid to the situation.

  16. Powell says:

    I freakin love periscope w/Andy. You get the 411.
    I finally got to ask questions, comment. He read my comment “Youre living the life of Riley”. He said yes he is.
    Someone asked when NJ is back. He said he doesn’t know. A major cast member is in jail. Then he said He’s been emailing w/Tre a lot lately. 😯😄
    Someone said Joanna is suing Brandi. He said yes.
    Someone asked if Miami is coming back. He said no. He says no every time someone asks. He said he heard mamma Elsa is not doing well. That’s sad.
    Someone asked is DC HWs coming back. He said NO! And asked “is that a rumor right now?”.
    He’s partying this holiday w/Kelly and Mark; SJP and Matthew; will be going to Fire Island.
    Someone asked did he hear about Brandi on Howard? He said yes. He does like Brandi. He doesn’t know why she said he doesn’t.
    I didn’t know he wears contacts. He had on glasses. Someone asked who they were by. He said who. He said he took a 2hr nap, that’s why he had on his glasses.
    Someone asked about new guests and Oprah coming back. He said they’re hoping to get Diddy back on soon. Oprah can come back any time she wants.

    • chismosa says:

      i still don’t for the life of me get the fear people have about getting the eye surgery. You just need to FIND THE RIGHT DOCTORS.

      Years after having perfect PRK, i’m SO SO happy my doc is going to hopefully do my ‘prevent middle-age’ eyesight issue (which cannnot be prevented, happens to everyone)
      He said that of course they’re doing it in Israel first- (my mother asked him, as she wants to go there to get any type of medical thing taken care of first) — as they are cutting edge and do things first there— duh. I hope he doesn’t retire first or at least makes an exception for me. He wants to wait a little, for more approval.

      People, learn about technology! Face your fears!!!!

      ON another note, i’m glad not having blue eyes makes me HAVE LESS A CHANCE OF BECOMING AN ALCOHOLIC, as per recent news. LOLOLOLOLOLLLLLL

      Andy should FIX HIS WONKY eye since he doesn’t mind contacts, glasses and all that $hit. But his vanity perplexes me. He has it, then he doesn’t. Whatever. ByeFelicia. Can ‘t wait till he’s ousted.

      • Orson Buggy says:

        My vision improved sort of when I hit my 40s. My formerly just right wear my glasses all the time nearsightedness prescription stopped working at closer and short distances. I had to flip them up on my forehead to read or compute. So I got a new prescription that’s milder for distance and with bifocals for reading. Now that I’m old enough to act as immature as I want, last time I got my driver’s license renewed, I took the eye exam without wearing them and I passed. First time I’ve ever had a license without mandatory corrective lenses.

      • I had Lasik over 17 years ago and it has been awesome! I am 48 and still do not wear reading glasses but I did start wearing glasses this past year for distance, still ok to drive without them but I like sharpness. The procedure was a breeze!

      • Powell says:

        I was scared about Lasik but had 2 complimentary exams but it won’t work for me. I need the surgery where basically a contact is put into my eye.

  17. Powell says:

    Kathy Griffin is joining Julie on tonight’s epi of Big brother.

    • The Takeover Kathy will be doing holds a lot of power within for the winner. BB is making some bold moves with the show this season, which is a good thing I think for the show because it was getting kind of stale at times.

    • California35 says:

      Ah, i saw an ad about it, and wondered if it was a celebrity Big Brother, and she would be in it. Duh! I think I would have read or seen more about it, if that was the case. Have they done a celebrity one, it would be interesting.

      • Powell says:

        The do Celebrity Big Brother in Australia. I think last season or the season before Tara Reid was the first to go home.

  18. TexasTart says:

    How interesting she sees that jeep and visualizes doing that pose on the roll bar….and does it! Pretty certain that would have never occurred to me…. or anyone, hello?!

    • ladebra says:

      I might be able to get up there, but I guarantee you I would not be able to get down.

  19. TexasTart says:

    Teresa G prison diary excerpts, she’s working on a book (but you already knew that, didn’t you, lol)

    • All that glorious money and hoardes of fans waiting for her to finance all this – she’s going to do BETTER than before. Repulsive.
      Lord help me. Serenity 🙌🏾

      • Powell says:

        Yes she will. I hope she gets an honest to goodness biz mgr and accountant. Joe will screw things up (post prison) and according to her she doesn’t “read” what she signs.

    • Orson Buggy says:

      Okay, so she’s publicly griping about the food while she’s STILL in stir? Think about how well this worked for Chapman in Season 1, Episode 1 of Orange Is The New Black.

    • ladebra says:

      After reading this — there is no way Teresa wrote any of her blogs. Or her cookbooks.

    • Wendy (the broad who was supposed to help Tre transition into and out of prison) is tweeting that diaries are not allowed in prison and that this is just a ploy to stay relevant.

    • TexasTart says:

      NOT awesome. AS IF they need to replace KIM with other sibling to continue torturing Kyle on screen. 🙄

    • California35 says:

      Well their life do give lots to talk about, and it would be a show. BUT they wouldn’t want to really show it on TV, at least not without a big pay out. They are too expensive for Bravo. I don’t even know how to write this because in one hand, they are on the tabloids constantly, they do big things that can’t be ignored, but on the other hand they want to cover it all up. So one on hand it seems like they don’t care about what “peasants” think or say, and they do whatever they want and even seem to want the public to know, but other times or other family members want the public to stay out of it and want to present to us that they are not the bad people we think they are. Or is it just that they are not getting paid for sharing their lives AND THAT is what bothers them?

      Example, Paris’ tape. Out for a reason on purpose or was it really am accident and she really felt terrible about it? Besides the tape, she has been out and about dressed and in behaviour not so lady like, then she shows how elegant and well behaved she is. So depends on the ocasion? And on the $ or on the intentions? Is it more that she and all are wild revels, and then they have to try to behave because their actions end upmaffecting them, so then they try to clean their image. If Paris went to jail, I assume her brother will be going since his actions were worst. At least with Paris she always seem to be friendly and happy with the attention and the fans.

      Who knows, who cares, lol im putting too much time on this lol

      Money really can’t buy you class…

      • chismosa says:

        Cali i totally see your point that you didn’t know how you would make it…. they are a weird bunch!!!

      • TexasTart says:


      • Powell says:

        IMO it would be Kathy telling Kyle what to do and what not to do instead of focusing on her life and family. Will she talk about Conrad and his issues? No. She’ll talk about Nicki’s wedding. Only the good stuff. That would be one dimensional. We already had that w/Kyle. She couldn’t talk about bad stuff that had to do w/Kim to keep her secrets. Let Kyle be Richard sisterless. Hopefully we can see some about Alexia and the repercussions of the dog bite.

      • Powell says:

        The want to keep the bad stuff hidden. They’re used to trying to hide stuff. When Conrad married Elizabeth Taylor he beat her while on the honeymoon. Gambling and getting drunk the entire time. Then they come home all smiles like everything was wonderful. The Hiltons and the studio had a vested interest in keeping that quite.
        I think Paris’ tape getting out was on purpose by the ex, no fault of hers. She didn’t need the publicity. She was already the party girl out and about in Hollywood, making a splashy name for herself.
        The Hiltons have had 3, 4 reality shows. If they wanted big bucks for showing the bad goings on they only have to ask for it. A network would pick their show up.

  20. TexasTart says:

    • California35 says:

      Hi Yexas, i took it and I did pretty bad. I thought I would do 100% haha. I guess there were wome details I missed…like the ag difrence between George and his youg girlfriend. How should I know? I tried to avoid his scenes and everything George blocked from my memory 😛😜

      • California35 says:

        Texas – NOT yexas,,,sorry

        • TexasTart says:

          Hi Cali! Oddly, I got the age difference question right, but my defense (lol) is I’m a numbers person. I got all the recent seasons questions right….but only got 12 or of 24.
          Have a great day off at the beach 😀

          • California35 says:

            Cool, I will take tephe test again later to see if the questions will be the same. I really thought i would do better, i missed TEN!!!

            Thank you! Have a lovely day yourself.

    • chismosa says:

      im on a rinky dinky pc….should i venture there !!! 😮 !!!
      i was just up to the part at the RIAD where poor Alex comes stomping down the marble stairs and asks to speak to Luann and Lu, Jill and Kookoo are like ‘re-enter please’…. i was like, i have GOT to get some snack to come back and enjoy this part with.
      Love the morocco stuff!

      WISH THEY’D CROSS INTERNATIONAL WATERS AGAIN SOON// flights > than 4-5 hours to somewhere interesting!!!!
      i know i know, no budget.

    • plainviewsue says:

      What does it mean that I only got two wrong!!!?? I got the first one wrong. I thought Jill was the first HW we saw, but it was Ramona. Also, I couldn’t remember the age difference between George and that girlfriend; I’d like to think I cloroxed that image out of my brain.

  21. California35 says:

    Good morning everyone, and happy Day off 😀👏🏼👍🏼🇺🇸

    I’m taking the day off from work and from the routine. I am taking the day to go to the beach and enjoy some time outdoors, before the 4 of July celebrations. When I will stay home to avoid the crowds and to keep my dog save. Hopefully today won’t be too bad (or as bad) on traffic and crowds, but even if it is, I will enjoy yhe day. Knowing I will have two more days off after today, will help too 😛

    • ladebra says:

      Hi Cali! The beach is where to be – it’s going to be HOT! Have fun!

    • TexasTart says:

      I’m so jealous you have an American Flag emoji! There are no flags on my device.

      • chismosa says:

        how not girl? don’t you have the intial emojis? those all had the american flag?

        • TexasTart says:

          No initials…no U S…no flags…waaaaaah! 😢

          • ladebra says:

            🇦🇺🇨🇱🇫🇷🇮🇪🇲🇴🇳🇴🇷🇺🇸🇪🇦🇪🇦🇹🇨🇳🇩🇪🇮🇱🇲🇾🇵🇭🇸🇦🇨🇭🇻🇳🇧🇪🇭🇰🇭🇰🇨🇴🇮🇹🇲🇽🇵🇱🇸🇬🇹🇷🇧🇷🇩🇰🇮🇳🇯🇵🇳🇱🇵🇹🇿🇦🇬🇧🇨🇦🇫🇮🇮🇩🇰🇷🇳🇿🇵🇷🇪🇸🇺🇸 Flag envy

  22. mrs peabody says:

    I might have missed it but did anyone post what the outcome of Kim’s court date was? I thought she had to go to court in June. Was it postponed cuz of her rehab? Just wondering.

  23. chismosa says:

    Happy 4th to anyone who doesn’t check in during the weekend, and thanks Veena for allowing us this space. Are you still in Hawaii????


    hugs to all XX

    • Barb (Just wondering in Jersey) says:

      🙂 happy 4th to you Chissy. Stay safe.

    • Foxymel(Mel) says:

      Miss you, honey! When is your birthday, btw? I don’t want to miss it.

      • chismosa says:

        next week (shhhh……. )
        i hope you are well ! I owe you an email. I like your ‘fox’

        Kit’s CATERPILLAR scares me. i know it’s from some show, but i hate FURRY BUGS.
        Yes, butterflies are beautiful.

        • TexasTart says:

          I hope Kit sees this she will totally be ROTFL! 🐛

        • Foxymel(Mel) says:

          Please let us know when.
          I love Kit’s pic. It’s from The Simpson ‘s crying caterpillar.

        • kit9 says:

          Rofl!!!!!!! I’m sorry. If it helps, Sreamapillar is more a nuisance bug, than scary. Although he is litigious. He ends up suing Homer for accidentally trying to kill him. That is kinda scary. But speaking of avi’s, since signing up for Gravatar, I can’t post here as kit9 without logging into wordpress and it seems I have to do that every time I visit the site. Anyone else have to do that? It’s annoying. Like Screamapillar.

          • Veena (NMD) says:

            Hmmm – I stay logged in – I wonder if you have a browser setting that clears cookies or something like that – or maybe there’s a box to check about remembering passwords.

        • kit9 says:

          For a little background…here’s a clip of the world’s most annoying bug…

  24. TexasTart says:

    I guess Kandi’s store is similar to Kyle’s….

    • Powell says:

      I thought Kandi’s were hers. Not like Kyle’s Aileen stores which are a franchise. Didn’t know Kandi had a Vegas location.

      • Powell says:

        *store, not stores

      • TexasTart says:

        Yes, Kyle bought into a franchise….I don’t know about Kandi…I was thinking they carried similar merchandise. I went to read About Us on the tags website and it wouldn’t load at the time…

  25. VV™ says:

  26. VV™ says:

    • Powell says:

      This IS killing Booble Bobble Head!
      😭 😩😈💣💥
      🎶🎶”Zippity Do Da Zippity YEAH, My oh My What A Wonderful Day!”🎶🎶🙌

      • TexasTart says:

        Yep, I hope no one gets their tires slashed tonight.

        LOL at your emoji and song choices 😆

      • hawkmoon947 says:

        Yeah — didn’t Brandi say that Lisa and Kyle really HATE each other? never mind that they were friends before Taylor and Brandi came alone. It’s amazing that someone as f’cked up as Brandi thinks she’s an expert on human behavior.

  27. FattyCat says:

    little confused. I’ve read back a bit, but still confused. Do I need to register or sign in somewhere to get to Snacking and Snarking?? Forgive me, I’m slow 🙂 Really enjoyed that I didn’t have to do all that.

    • TexasTart says:

      Hi FattyCat, you were in moderation for an error in your email address, so you might want to check that before you post again, lol.

      You shouldn’t have to sign up for anything at S&S, but when people were having issues staying logged in, I suggested for them to sign up for something that would help, is all…..and some of that conversation spilled over here. Sorry for any confusion. 🙂

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Starzy’s site is having technical difficulties. There was some advice to sign in to work around the issues but in my experience at least, it didn’t help.

      So Veena welcomed all of us back here while Starzy works out the kinks.

      It IS a little confusing, but that’s the best I’ve figured out so far.😜

    • FattyCat says:

      thank you TexasTart and OMIB! Appreciate it. I will be more careful when typing. Sometimes I just get fat fingers!!! Will wait for Stars to work out the glitches. So easily confused these days – change does not come easy to this old dog (or should I say cat!)

      Wishing all a very happy and safe 4th of July. Enduring the fireworks (not the pretty ones) and it’s only the 3rd. Can’t wait until July 8th!!!

  28. lila1star says:

  29. SoutheastVA says:

    Happy Independence Day everyone!

  30. ladebra says:

    So darn cute. Happy 4th!

  31. Foxymel(Mel) says:

    Happy 4th everyone! I hope you all are enjoying this day with family and friends.
    In just watched OC and can’t stand Megan. She is really mean and obnoxious. I glad the other ladies were able to meet up with Shannon and Vicki.

  32. TexasTart says:

    Good Morning! 😀

    • California35 says:

      Goodmorning, happy day after 😀 isnt it great that it is Sunday!? 😀😀👍🏻

  33. California35 says:

    I could post on Stars’ site last night, and again just now. 😀😀

  34. Barb (Just wondering in Jersey) says:

    I just posted twice over at Star’s place and everything worked like it’s supposed to!!

  35. not THAT Jill says:

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      “Kylie needs to stop with the surgery” ?!?!?!

      Um…pot. Kettle. You know the rest.

    • VV™ says:

      OMG! Did she get fired or did she not? (I know the answer). She’s definitely delusional exhausting.
      She got on Celebrity Aprentice and thought she had arrived. How quickly things change in a year. She was not smart with her money and definitely not smart with the platform given.

      • Orson Buggy says:

        She’s just plain not smart at anything now. She used to be smart, I guess, at looking good. After all, that’s a models’ job, right?

  36. Orson Buggy says:
  37. NJBev says:

    ok, does someone else see a small similarity between Kelly from NY and Meghan from
    St. Louis???
    she’s (meg) up here, and Shannon , whelp, (like a crazy in the day Bethenny) is down
    too much off a Jill and Beths story, scares me a bit-

    and I’m hatin on that that Meg, quite a bit-

    • Just remember Meghan is an alien. They have serious culture shock here on Planet Earth, with their long necks and bodies. Also, language is such a struggle; they have to work hard to hit those ConSoNanTs! Puts her into perspective, I think.

      • Great assessment…
        I am also waaaaaaaay over Heather, but she is right about 1 thing, her husband IS a fame-ho but it seems she is as much of a narcissist as he is! I think she is trying to set the bar at doing EVERYTHING the other housewives have done collectively, to the extent she and Terry are now writing a book…and maybe soon we will see designer scrubs, surgical nail polish and a cookbook since we already have a spinoff with Botched, hotel design with the house, faux champagne (wine), actress, TV personality…zzzzzzzzzzzz

        Megan has NOT arrived…although she thinks she has…I found an old article which may explain more about her…and her motives…of course she is after Shannon…Shannon bested her by being chosen for the show the same year she was “trying out”…hopefully if MizAndy’s testing of a mid-western HW show comes to fruition, she can lead that one with her St. Louis residence 50% of the time, and leave RHOC where she is a wannabe.

        • Thanks for the link. I was also reading up on the Katie “friend” who showed up a lot in the first episodes. Her hubs, who is now divorcing HER, is a ballplayer and it’s a long and dirty history they have. She was already a full cast member, it appears, and was IN the season mostly filmed as such, but then she BACKED OUT when her hubs went bonkers off the wagon on cocaine and strippers in Feb. of this year, then filing for divorce. Seems the tabloids say he caught HER in an affair, which she absolutely denies. BUT she didn’t want this all on TV, so backed out of her HWs role at the last minute before the season began airing–or that’s what I read.

          Now I’m thinking…wait a minute…DAVID was having an affair–all just coincidence plus gossip, right? RIGHT? lol

          It’s official: they have finally run me crazy!

  38. NJBev says:

    does Vickies mother die in this episode?

  39. NJBev says:

    shannon does have a temper, but I think it comes from a sense of in-credulousness-
    and lets face it, she got fucted over horribly last year..

  40. shamrockblonde says:

    just checking in here to say hello – thank you Veena – for everything –

  41. Veena (NMD) says:

    Last Million Dollar Listing blog

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